Topic: Mitchell Report

[DoW]

I don't know.  when he came out a couple of years ago and all of a sudden had that power.  he was a doubles hitter and it is not unusual for a doubles hitter to eventually turn into a HR hitter but it at least made me suspicious.  obvious may not have been the correct term.  I will just say that I am not surprised if he is on the list.

[tet]

apparently you never watched him play against the yankees.  he jacks at least 2 a game it seems...

[antelope19]

Perhaps I am blinded by my love for the O's.  But I just don't see it.  Just cuz he's a yankee killer doesn't mean he juices.   

[DoW]

from the way the report supposedly looks, maybe he got the steroids at yankee stadium.  I hear they weren't hard to get there.   

sorry Yankee fans.  I couldn't resist.

[antelope19]

from the way the report supposedly looks, maybe he got the steroids at yankee stadium.  I hear they weren't hard to get there.  

sorry Yankee fans.  I couldn't resist.

Hey man, I am right there with ya.   

[slslbs]

I remember one year Lenny Dykstra showed up at spring training about 20 lbs heavier and much more muscular. His avg went up about 20 pts and doubled his HR production. I would think that Howard Johnson from that era's Mets also was juiced based on a sudden surge in HRs

[antelope19]

wow, it just came out, 300 pages.  A number of big name players.  Lenny Dykstra was the first mentioned

[antelope19]

You think Brian Roberts is obvious?  It actually came as a bit of a shock to me.  He's not all that big and never has been.  He lost his power when he shattered his elbow.  I don't think it was due to juicing.  But I could be wrong. 

I was def. WRONG.  I stand corrected.   

[blatboom]

I'm def not surprised Clemens was on The List.  he mirrors Bonds in his size increase (let's check his hat size and feet), and the unlikely stellar physical ability past 40.  throw in Pettite and all the other pitchers that are juicing and I have now reversed my opinion on roids.  Let em all take the shit if they want and shave the years off their lives...but their records should not count.  all these guys are frauds.

[mattstick]

So Troy Glaus made the list twice!

Just glad Vernon Wells or Roy Halladay were'nt on the list.

* mattstick tosses his Roger Clemens Blue Jays Todd McFarlane into the trash

[slslbs]

you've probably all seen this. It differs from the other one a bit - Veritek isn't on it (although it's from the Boston Globe)

Mitchell Report list

December 13, 2007

Here's a list of most of the names Major League Baseball players listed in the Mitchell Report.

The following players were connected to steroids, either use or possession, in the report:

Lenny Dykstra
David Segui
Larry Bigbie
Brian Roberts
Jack Cust
Tim Laker
Josias Manzanillo
Todd Hundley
Mark Carreon
Hal Morris
Matt Franco
Rondell White
Andy Pettitte
Roger Clemens
Chuck Knoblauch
Jason Grimsley
Gregg Zaun
David Justice
F.P. Santangelo
Glenallen Hill
Mo Vaughn
Denny Neagle
Ron Villone
Ryan Franklin
Chris Donnels
Todd Williams
Phil Hiatt
Todd Pratt
Kevin Young
Mike Lansing
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker
Adam Piatt
Miguel Tejada
Jason Christiansen
Mike Stanton
Stephen Randolph
Jerry Hairston
Paul Lo Duca
Adam Riggs
Bart Miadich
Fernando Vina
Kevin Brown
Eric Gagne
Mike Bell
Matt Herges
Gary Bennett
Jim Parque
Brendan Donnelly
Chad Allen
Jeff Williams
Exavier "Nook" Logan
Howie Clark
Paxton Crawford
Ken Caminiti
Rafael Palmeiro
Luis Perez
Derrick Turnbow
Ricky Bones
Ricky Stone

The following players were cited under "Alleged Internet Purchases of Performance Enhancing Substances By Players in Major League Baseball."

Rick Ankiel
David Bell
Paul Byrd
Jose Canseco
Jay Gibbons
Troy Glaus
Jason Grimsley
Jose Guillen
Darren Holmes
Gary Matthews Jr.
John Rocker
Scott Schoeneweis
Ismael Valdez
Matt Williams
Steve Woodard

The following players were linked through BALCO:

Benito Santiago
Gary Sheffield
Randy Velarde
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Bobby Estalella
Barry Bonds
Marvin Benard

[blatboom]

and you know they missed a whole lot of corrupt players.  what's funny is they've got nothing in this report that would hold up in court.

[slslbs]

yep. this is just who they caught.

I don't think the purpose was to prosecute. imo it was to define how big the problem is.

[Caravan2001]

well at least my boy Benny Agbayani made it through unscathed....Here is a look at what they left out:  The Mitchell Report Outtakes.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=mitchell/071213


worst person implicated in this whole mess?  Mr. Met, according to the full report, linked above.  Say it ain't so! 

[DoW]

the one person I wonder about is Varitek.  he is the captain of the Sox and the report was done by Mitchell.  the only problem I have is that Mitchell is calling for independant drug testing but how independant was his report?  so many Yankees and no active Red Sox?

I suppose the point of the report was to address the problem.  I just find it very hard to believe that no active Red Sox names came up in the investigation.  this has nothing to do with love or hate for the Sox.  it has to do with whether this report passes the smell test and how independant was it?

but then again, why should I expect more from MLB.  I am a fan of an out of market team and buy either the MLB Extra Innings package through cable or mlb.tv every year.  I will no longer be purchasing any MLB products until baseball actually starts cleaning up the sport.  I will still be a fan, but they just won;t get my money anymore until they fix what they caused.