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Title: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: Hicks on June 15, 2018, 12:05:43 PM
Only have heard the Boogie before, but whole show looks pretty solid.

http://www.livephish.com/browse/music/0,1213/Phish-mp3-flac-download-9-18-1999-Coors-Amphitheatre--Chula-Vista-CA
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: emay on June 15, 2018, 12:08:24 PM
hellz yeah this tube was on one of those live baits, its a great version. That boogie is nice too. Solid pick.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: August on June 15, 2018, 12:11:22 PM
It's been a while, but this Boogie On always seemed just super repetitive to me.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: August on June 15, 2018, 12:12:52 PM
SER, tho.
9-12 would be such a well rounded release.
Or 9-22
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: Hicks on June 15, 2018, 12:40:01 PM
Quote from: August on June 15, 2018, 12:12:52 PM
SER, tho.
9-12 would be such a well rounded release.
Or 9-22

My theory is that they haven't released Portland because Trey sounds high as a kite. 

Las Cruces would be nice though, AUDs are not very good. 
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: cactusfan on June 15, 2018, 02:43:45 PM
Quote from: August on June 15, 2018, 12:12:52 PM
SER, tho.
9-12 would be such a well rounded release.
Or 9-22

No kidding. All the amazing fall '99 shows they've yet to bother with, and we get this show? One of the weakest of the tour.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: mbw on June 15, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
this is one of the first shows I burned to disc from nugs.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: susep on June 15, 2018, 08:12:49 PM
Give us a scorching Summer '99 show ie. 07/08/99. 
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: mistercharlie on June 15, 2018, 08:15:20 PM
I've always really liked this show and I am very happy to finally have a nice sbd of it!  :music:
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: mopper_smurf on June 16, 2018, 01:45:13 AM
Man, that Cavern is kinda slow.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: Marmar on June 16, 2018, 09:38:50 AM
Not a fan of 99....some of the sloppiest playing up to that point.....

There are literally a thousand other shows I would have considered before this repetitive, boring trash....literally, a thousand.....
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: Gumbo72203 on June 16, 2018, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: mbw on June 15, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
this is one of the first shows I burned to disc from nugs.


Same.  This Tweezer is one of my all-time favorites.  It's just so patient, relaxed, and structured.  Playing with a purpose and direction.  It was released as a Live Bait too sometime last year. 

Quote from: mopper_smurf on June 16, 2018, 01:45:13 AM
Man, that Cavern is kinda slow.


So is Tube!  May be the slowest Tube?
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: aphineday on June 16, 2018, 02:38:25 PM
The Tweezer was a little slow for me, but it had some nice parts for sure. The Boogie was definitely repetitive, but I could do ok with it. About to rock the rest of the second set during my run.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: mattstick on June 16, 2018, 03:42:28 PM
The 5 minutes of Meatstick with just Page and Fish is painful, and I thought would have been enough to disqualify this from a release
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: August on June 16, 2018, 03:53:45 PM
I heard that they just throw at a dartboard now.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: Gumbo72203 on June 17, 2018, 01:45:23 AM
If they're looking for another late 1.0 era show to release, my go-to's would be 11/13/98, 10/8/99 or 12/11/99. 

Love this Tweezer though.  I like that the show is a good mix of big jams and songs, though.  You get one 20+ min jam, a couple 15 minute jams, and some solid other stuff.  I'm good.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: August on June 17, 2018, 03:30:03 AM
Dude.
I was at all three of those shows and they're some of the worst from those two years aside from 12-11
Cleveland Meat would be a good archives cut, tho.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: cactusfan on June 17, 2018, 05:38:20 PM
Listening to this, I'm liking it better than I remembered liking it. The Tweezer is nice in that sheets of sound '99 way. Though for that kind of Tweezer, it's no 9/9/99. Which show would have been a better release.
As would have:
9/12
9/22
10/2

Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: August on June 17, 2018, 06:18:56 PM
It seems like everyone always wants MOAR 99 and they've missed the mark with the ones that they have released, IMO.
12-16 is kinda garb. Tweezer is OK, but Sand makes the meat of that show and it's so boring.
Japan (I get that it was a benefit release) is pretty sloppy and has 94 minutes of guttural chanting.
Camden is another least favorite attended but does have that epic Chalk > Roggae. Rest goes inside of the garbage.
Boise is cool. Actually prefer the first set to the second, but it's a fan fave and it's the best LP from the year.

So! Let's see...
912
922
Maybe a Great Woods Box?!?
725!!!
928 would be perfect
10/2 is pretty underrated, but I'd like to see some of those ^^
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: gainesvillegreen on June 17, 2018, 06:23:04 PM
Quote from: August on June 17, 2018, 06:18:56 PM
It seems like everyone always wants MOAR 99 and they've missed the mark with the ones that they have released, IMO.
12-16 is kinda garb. Tweezer is OK, but Sand makes the meat of that show and it's so boring.
Japan (I get that it was a benefit release) is pretty sloppy and has 94 minutes of guttural chanting.
Camden is another least favorite attended but does have that epic Chalk > Roggae. Rest goes inside of the garbage.
Boise is cool. Actually prefer the first set to the second, but it's a fan fave and it's the best LP from the year.

So! Let's see...
912
922
Maybe a Great Woods Box?!?
725!!!
928 would be perfect
10/2 is pretty underrated, but I'd like to see some of those ^^

I can't believe 9/22 and 9/28 got passed over for this. I'm really glad for those that are enjoying this release, but, who in the hell makes these decisions?

Why not just put up a poll on their website with 3-5 shows from the tour they are thinking about, and let us pick?

Why not release the whole damn tour?

:-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: mistercharlie on June 17, 2018, 08:06:11 PM
Quote from: August on June 17, 2018, 06:18:56 PM
It seems like everyone always wants MOAR 99 and they've missed the mark with the ones that they have released, IMO.
12-16 is kinda garb. Tweezer is OK, but Sand makes the meat of that show and it's so boring.
Japan (I get that it was a benefit release) is pretty sloppy and has 94 minutes of guttural chanting.
Camden is another least favorite attended but does have that epic Chalk > Roggae. Rest goes inside of the garbage.
Boise is cool. Actually prefer the first set to the second, but it's a fan fave and it's the best LP from the year.

So! Let's see...
912
922
Maybe a Great Woods Box?!?
725!!!
928 would be perfect
10/2 is pretty underrated, but I'd like to see some of those ^^

Yes, please!! That's one of my favorite attended shows and the only one where I ended up second row center by the luck of the draw! That Whipping Post is pure amazing!!
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: susep on June 17, 2018, 08:35:01 PM
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on June 17, 2018, 06:23:04 PM

Why not release the whole damn tour?

:-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Was kinda hoping for a Lemonwheel pick.  We are still in a fertile period for the band twenty years later.  08/12/98 was a nice nod, we need more Anniversary shows.     
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: cactusfan on June 17, 2018, 09:14:42 PM
Quote from: August on June 17, 2018, 06:18:56 PM
It seems like everyone always wants MOAR 99 and they've missed the mark with the ones that they have released, IMO.
12-16 is kinda garb. Tweezer is OK, but Sand makes the meat of that show and it's so boring.
Japan (I get that it was a benefit release) is pretty sloppy and has 94 minutes of guttural chanting.
Camden is another least favorite attended but does have that epic Chalk > Roggae. Rest goes inside of the garbage.
Boise is cool. Actually prefer the first set to the second, but it's a fan fave and it's the best LP from the year.

So! Let's see...
912
922
Maybe a Great Woods Box?!?
725!!!
928 would be perfect
10/2 is pretty underrated, but I'd like to see some of those ^^

though i agree there are much better dec '99 shows than 12/16, that Sand has really grown on me since they put that one out. I've listened to it a lot, and though, yes, it's very slow to get moving, with like 6 minutes of space noises, taken as a whole, i think it really works.

7/25 would be amazing. i'm also a sucker for 7/7, a very dark and gritty show.

the second set of 10/2 is so on fire that ending it with Waste actually works. also, that's the best version of On Your Way Down they ever played.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: PIE-GUY on June 17, 2018, 10:50:18 PM
After two times through I think this may be the worst official archival release ever. Not kidding.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: rowjimmy on June 17, 2018, 11:24:28 PM
When my wife spots the whiffs, we've got problems.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: mbw on June 18, 2018, 08:56:21 AM
It's their new strategy to make 3.0 sound better.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: mattstick on June 18, 2018, 09:47:02 AM
Quote from: mbw on June 18, 2018, 08:56:21 AM
It's their new strategy to make 3.0 sound better.

Well played Phish.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: August on June 18, 2018, 09:52:58 AM
Hoping for a remastered Conventry box.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: mattstick on June 18, 2018, 09:57:17 AM
Quote from: August on June 18, 2018, 09:52:58 AM
Hoping for a remastered Conventry box.

With a bonus 7" of Friday/Glide
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: emay on June 18, 2018, 11:05:43 AM
Quote from: mattstick on June 18, 2018, 09:47:02 AM
Quote from: mbw on June 18, 2018, 08:56:21 AM
It's their new strategy to make 3.0 sound better.

Well played Phish.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: Marmar on June 18, 2018, 06:47:02 PM
Quote from: August on June 18, 2018, 09:52:58 AM
Hoping for a remastered Conventry box.

I've got 4 cam video footage with remastered SBD's for the audio....

of Vegas 2004.....

and it still sucks....

just like the rest of 2004.

For me....1999 was just a warm up for 2004....shit show to the extreme. There's like what, 1 MAYBE 2 good shows from 2004?.....and there's like 7 MAYBE 8 good shows from 1999?

They are archives.....fucking dig deep or get the hell outta the building. :shakehead:
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: August on June 18, 2018, 07:10:36 PM
I mean, they've released a ton of '97 shows and pretty much nailed them all.
It's just bizarre that they have such a hard time with releasing the really good '99 shows.
And while we're on it, 2000 lacks greatly.
10-7 is great (needs a remaster) but Alpine is suspect as is Darien aside from the Suzy.
6-14 is not a fave of mine, but does give a good representation of that Tour.
Tons of stuff like 6-24, PNC, 7-7, 9-17 and even 9-18 would be great releases.
Do a 7-2-94, 7-15-99, 6-28-00 box or something.
#uwont
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: Hicks on June 18, 2018, 08:13:44 PM
A 6/28-7/4/00 box set gets brought up on a certain website a lot. 

Sounds like a great idea to me.

As for this show, kind of a toss up between this and 7/8/00 for weakest release in my book, although I've never listened to the Starlake 98 show.

Anyway just goes to show how spoiled we were with 1.0, even if this is the worst release it's still pretty damn good and would be considered a heater if played today. 
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: August on June 18, 2018, 08:25:22 PM
This show has the Boogie On.
Starlake, The Jim.
Those are really just highlights in weak shows. At least Boise is a pretty strong show throughout.
They've done a pretty good job with getting big jams out on the FTA, but I think we all would like more well rounded releases.
Again, a LP like Lexington 96 is really just a long Gin and YEM with basic Fall 96 filling up the rest.
I can do this job, guys.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: August on June 18, 2018, 08:26:34 PM
Oh. And the Starlake mix is garbage.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: August on June 18, 2018, 08:28:54 PM
So heated.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: August on June 18, 2018, 08:31:39 PM
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Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: Hicks on June 18, 2018, 08:32:37 PM
Quote from: August on June 18, 2018, 08:26:34 PM
Oh. And the Starlake mix is garbage.

Ha, my spidey sense must have told me not to bother with it. 
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: August on June 18, 2018, 08:38:23 PM
Vernon was a good one.
Pretty loose night, but at least a complete show with some beefy highlights.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: mattstick on June 18, 2018, 08:46:14 PM
I like the Starlake show. Good Reba and Time Loves A Hero.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: Marmar on June 18, 2018, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: August on June 18, 2018, 08:26:34 PM
Oh. And the Starlake mix is garbage.

Truth
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: ytowndan on June 18, 2018, 09:17:59 PM
Quote from: mattstick on June 18, 2018, 08:46:14 PM
I like the Starlake show. Good Reba and Time Loves A Hero.

It's hard for me to look past the personal bias of it being my first show, but I agree.  I've listened to that Reba probably as many times as
I've listened to the Jim.  That whole first set is pretty decent, with a few stand outs.  The second is all about the Jim.

I'll also get behind a 9/28/99 release.  That's pretty much a perfect show from start to finish.  The Tweezer > Makisupa is money.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: antelope19 on June 18, 2018, 09:42:04 PM
Quote from: August on June 18, 2018, 08:28:54 PM
So heated.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: emay on June 20, 2018, 09:35:27 PM
Don't remember the last time I skipped through a LP release that much...
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: rowjimmy on June 21, 2018, 10:00:18 PM
Say what you will about the merits of this release, at least it's got aug posting about Phish.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: Caravan2001 on June 21, 2018, 10:52:10 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 21, 2018, 10:00:18 PM
Say what you will about the merits of this release, at least it's got aug posting about Phish.

good point
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: Buffalo Budd on June 21, 2018, 10:55:23 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on June 21, 2018, 10:52:10 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 21, 2018, 10:00:18 PM
Say what you will about the merits of this release, at least it's got aug posting about Phish.

good point
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: WhatstheUse? on June 21, 2018, 11:38:50 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 21, 2018, 10:00:18 PM
Say what you will about the merits of this release, at least it's got aug posting about Phish.

Indeed.

The man is not wrong...

Not one of their greatest releases...
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: August on June 22, 2018, 05:56:10 AM
So heated.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: anthrax on June 22, 2018, 09:58:46 AM
the paug is alive again!!
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: emay on June 22, 2018, 10:41:12 AM
Quote from: anthrax on June 22, 2018, 09:58:46 AM
the paug is alive again!!

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/6c1a87c1106cfabff433fa9a116bfd20/tenor.gif?itemid=9881428)
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: mopper_smurf on June 22, 2018, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: emay on June 22, 2018, 10:41:12 AM
Quote from: anthrax on June 22, 2018, 09:58:46 AM
the paug is alive again!!

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/6c1a87c1106cfabff433fa9a116bfd20/tenor.gif?itemid=9881428)

Dissing the Phish. About time that happened again.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: jam> on June 22, 2018, 11:05:42 AM
I definitely wish Phish would open up the vault more. So many good performances, that unlike The Dead, we've never heard the soundboards of.
Title: Re: New LivePhish Release - 9-18-99 Chula Vista, CA
Post by: susep on June 22, 2018, 07:07:36 PM
Quote from: anthrax on June 22, 2018, 09:58:46 AM
the paug is alive again!!

Summer's coming and I got a review.