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Title: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: twatts on November 22, 2008, 02:34:48 PM
OK, so I've seen the discussion over the years.  And I saw that my own LP CDs are pretty much all covered with "that sticky goo" a couple of years ago.  But I never did anything about it because I don't listen to those discs...

Anyways, has anyone come up with a safe way to remove the goo??? 

I'm going to play with some safe solvents today.  I'll report back... 

If anyone can point me to a previous thread, that would be great.  I've had no luck with Search, nor Google...

Thanks,

Terry
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: twatts on November 22, 2008, 02:47:35 PM
OK, I've had immediate success:  isopropyl alcohol. 

Using cotton balls, lightly damp with isopropyl alcohol, I've been able to remove the goo without damaging the artwork or finish of the CDs.  I've also been able to remove any goo from the Folder Pages as well. 

After wiping down everything, I've wiped clean with cotton balls soaked in water.  The first few are up in the kitchen drying now. 

So far, I've had great success.  I've also pushed paper CD envelopes in to sleeves of the Folder Pages and intend to put the CDs back in the Folder.

Thanks,

Terry




edit:  I've noticed that some of the color from the artwork comes off with the alcohol.  I highly recommend that you use the alcohol sparingly and wipe very lightly. 
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: blatboom on November 22, 2008, 02:53:05 PM
OK, I've had immediate success:  isopropyl alcohol. 

Using cotton balls, lightly damp with isopropyl alcohol, I've been able to remove the goo without damaging the artwork or finish of the CDs.  I've also been able to remove any goo from the Folder Pages as well. 

After wiping down everything, I've wiped clean with cotton balls soaked in water.  The first few are up in the kitchen drying now. 

So far, I've had great success.  I've also pushed paper CD envelopes in to sleeves of the Folder Pages and intend to put the CDs back in the Folder.

Thanks,

Terry



awesome!!

I found our thread about it (ya gotta search "goopy"  :wink:) but it looks like you don't need it.  I was thinking alcohol myself but I've been afraid to try.  Thanks for the update!

http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=7895.0
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: twatts on November 22, 2008, 03:12:52 PM

I found our thread about it (ya gotta search "goopy"  :wink:) but it looks like you don't need it.  I was thinking alcohol myself but I've been afraid to try.  Thanks for the update!

http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=7895.0

Thanks!  Yeah, "goopy", who would have thought of that?!?  Hahaha!

NC State is killing UNC...

Terry
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: blatboom on November 22, 2008, 03:18:01 PM

I found our thread about it (ya gotta search "goopy"  :wink:) but it looks like you don't need it.  I was thinking alcohol myself but I've been afraid to try.  Thanks for the update!

http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=7895.0

Thanks!  Yeah, "goopy", who would have thought of that?!?  Hahaha!

NC State is killing UNC...

Terry


 :-D

yeah, you can't figure the ACC out this year.  but mediocrity sure does make for a competitive title race  :-P
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on November 22, 2008, 03:40:36 PM
mine have all been in storage for so long Im almost afraid to go dig them up.  I bet they are all gooey
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: twatts on November 22, 2008, 04:07:01 PM
UPDATE:

Ok, so I've gone through the first 5x.  The first couple are dry, but I found that they all had streaking.  They also all had a very fine film of sticky and residue from the alcohol.  Seems like the alcohol melts the goo and removes a lot of it.  But it leaves a little behind as the alcohol evaporates. 

So, I've added another step to the process.  I've filled the sink with warm water and palmolive and washed each CD.  They are now drying and none show the streaking.

Terry
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: blatboom on November 22, 2008, 04:15:07 PM
UPDATE:

Ok, so I've gone through the first 5x.  The first couple are dry, but I found that they all had streaking.  They also all had a very fine film of sticky and residue from the alcohol.  Seems like the alcohol melts the goo and removes a lot of it.  But it leaves a little behind as the alcohol evaporates. 

So, I've added another step to the process.  I've filled the sink with warm water and palmolive and washed each CD.  They are now drying and none show the streaking.

Terry


now this is a sweet blog.

thanks for the updates.
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: mattstick on November 22, 2008, 04:18:10 PM

What a PITA.
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: twatts on November 22, 2008, 04:20:33 PM
Oh!  Look what time it is!  Have to take a break... 

Terry
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: blatboom on November 22, 2008, 04:23:15 PM

What a PITA.

no kidding.  but if I can get this shit off and put them in a new binder I'll be stoked.  it's on 50-60 percent of my discs.
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: twatts on November 22, 2008, 04:27:25 PM
I anyone is interested, I have a second, brand-new totally unused LP Binder.  I bought 2x binders at the very beginning figuring they would release more than 20x.  Of course they did not, so it sat unused in a box for years.  I'm willing to sell for cheap, or trade for a spindle of blanks...

Terry
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: blatboom on November 22, 2008, 04:36:18 PM
I anyone is interested, I have a second, brand-new totally unused LP Binder.  I bought 2x binders at the very beginning figuring they would release more than 20x.  Of course they did not, so it sat unused in a box for years.  I'm willing to sell for cheap, or trade for a spindle of blanks...

Terry


pm'd
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: twatts on November 22, 2008, 05:19:20 PM
Clean discs...
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: Gumbo72203 on November 22, 2008, 07:17:37 PM
the only one i ever had a problem with the goop was the Darien Lake show. 



still haven't heard that show.......
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: khalpin on November 22, 2008, 08:56:51 PM
Nice!  Thanks for the tip.  I just had some problems last week not being able to play 12/29/94.  I'll definitely try this.  +k
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: Multibeast12 on April 07, 2010, 01:03:58 PM
Hey Terry is there a way to clean the plastic sleeve's they come in or just do the alcohol in them too?
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: blatboom on April 07, 2010, 01:31:46 PM
Hey Terry is there a way to clean the plastic sleeve's they come in or just do the alcohol in them too?
I think the plastic sleeves are the root of the problem so you might wanna go with something else.
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: Multibeast12 on April 07, 2010, 05:08:23 PM
Hey Terry is there a way to clean the plastic sleeve's they come in or just do the alcohol in them too?
I think the plastic sleeves are the root of the problem so you might wanna go with something else.

Yeah, I have them in those paper sleeve cases right now. My vol 3 and 11 were the worst. But i enjoy the plastic thing.
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: Hicks on April 07, 2010, 06:00:28 PM
My LP sleeves now reside in a drawer, as this was just starting to happen to mine.   I replaced the custom LP sleeves with generic CD book inserts. 

The LP booklets didn't fit so I just made some small cuts on the sides of the opening.
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: twatts on April 07, 2010, 08:03:09 PM
Hey Terry is there a way to clean the plastic sleeve's they come in or just do the alcohol in them too?

I wiped the sleeves clean in a similar fashion, then put them away.  I have my discs stored in paper sleeves, inserted in their respective boxes...

Terry
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: Multibeast12 on April 08, 2010, 02:34:08 PM
Thanks for the advice. It worked great  :clap:
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: VDB on October 20, 2010, 10:19:02 AM
Funny, I just noticed this thread. And I had kind of been wondering if the "mystery goo" was a universal phenomenon, or just me. Recently I finally ripped all my LP CDs to lossless digital files, so I imagine I'll be messing with the CDs less and less as time goes on. Still nice to be able to pop them into my car stereo, though, so I ought to give this project a whirl some time...
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: blatboom on October 23, 2010, 02:33:21 PM
good call whoever stickied this.
Title: Re: Live Phish: How to safely remove the sticky goo
Post by: shoreline99 on January 08, 2013, 10:12:22 AM
good call whoever stickied this.

Yup. I never had a problem with the 'goop' until the binder sat in the sun in my car for the last few months. Must have been the direct sunlight that turned the sleeves to mush. Looks like I've got another project to add to the pile.