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Poll
Question: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Option 1: 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited votes: 14
Option 2: 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller votes: 26
Title: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: UncleEbinezer on April 01, 2012, 12:03:17 PM
Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: twatts on April 01, 2012, 05:39:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRamB30E9mU

Terry
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: gah on April 01, 2012, 08:07:55 PM
I'm not sure if that was supposed to scare me or amuse me into voting one way or the other? bwwwaaaahhhaaaaahahahahaha

cough, cough

wwaaaaahhhhhaaaaahahahahaaaahaaa

bwwwwaaaaahhaaaaa


bwwaaa haaaa

cough

bwaaaa
haaaaa


haaaaaaa

ha



bwaaa
ha



ha



cough.

Thriller.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 01, 2012, 10:22:13 PM
Ok, now this is freaking me out, has to be an April Fool's gag.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: mistercharlie on April 02, 2012, 06:40:12 AM
Thriller.


My new prediction for the final round is DSOTM vs. Thriller.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: phil on April 02, 2012, 08:29:26 AM
(http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/67/e5/michael,jackson,simpsons-67e5e70871ade28e366c25b60b66a536_m.jpg)
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: VDB on April 02, 2012, 11:50:35 AM
We always made my dad put Thriller in the ol' cassette deck whenever we rode in his car. He probably got sick of it, but we loved it.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: PIE-GUY on April 02, 2012, 12:07:58 PM
This feels like 2004 when I can't imagine anyone voting for Bush yet there he is winning...
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: gah on April 02, 2012, 12:29:49 PM
The first recording of sound my parents have of me as a kid is yelling at my sister for singing the lyrics to beat it wrong..."no, no, you have to sing it like this..."...also, a few months ago, cleaning out my parents garage, I found the vinyl stored away collecting dust. Had to steal it....yeah, thriller.

Come on man, when this drops, you can't tell me you're sitting still.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-3JYuv9w4U
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: twatts on April 02, 2012, 01:08:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMj4xe1wKeA
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 02, 2012, 12:07:58 PM
This feels like 2004 when I can't imagine anyone voting for Bush yet there he is winning...
Perfect analogy.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Hicks on April 02, 2012, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 02, 2012, 12:07:58 PM
This feels like 2004 when I can't imagine anyone voting for Bush yet there he is winning...
Perfect analogy.

Cmon now, MJ never dropped bombs on innocent children.

Ok bad metaphor. 
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: gah on April 02, 2012, 01:31:33 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 01:25:35 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 02, 2012, 12:07:58 PM
This feels like 2004 when I can't imagine anyone voting for Bush yet there he is winning...
Perfect analogy.

USA! USA! USA!
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Igbo on April 02, 2012, 01:50:43 PM
i love Highway 61 and lsiten to it quite often, but i dont think it's Dylan's best, and unfortunately gets beat every day by this.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBIfLxi5dLo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBIfLxi5dLo)

i remember seeing this video for the first time. Staying up late on Fridays to watch Friday Night Videos. (a pre-MTV video show)

Once Billie Jean starts with the opening break, EVERYONE knows what it is because it is so CLASSIC and so GOOD! The little string hits are subtle yet so tremendous.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 02:36:22 PM
I am not trying to deny that Thriller is an iconic album and worthy of praise and I also agree that Highway 61 is not Dylan's best work (I reserve that title for BOTT).  I just can't give a vote to an album that, while very groundbreaking, held no significance to me and rarely, if ever, gets any playback in my house.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: gah on April 02, 2012, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 02:36:22 PM
I am not trying to deny that Thriller is an iconic album and worthy of praise and I also agree that Highway 61 is not Dylan's best work (I reserve that title for BOTT).  I just can't give a vote to an album that, while very groundbreaking, held no significance to me and rarely, if ever, gets any playback in my house.

That's because you're Canadian.  :-P

USA! USA! USA!










:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: twatts on April 02, 2012, 03:25:31 PM
Quote from: Igbo on April 02, 2012, 01:50:43 PM
i love Highway 61 and lsiten to it quite often, but i dont think it's Dylan's best, and unfortunately gets beat every day by this.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBIfLxi5dLo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBIfLxi5dLo)

i remember seeing this video for the first time. Staying up late on Fridays to watch Friday Night Videos. (a pre-MTV video show)

Once Billie Jean starts with the opening break, EVERYONE knows what it is because it is so CLASSIC and so GOOD! The little string hits are subtle yet so tremendous.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/jul/12/popandrock
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: twatts on April 02, 2012, 03:35:16 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 02:36:22 PM
(I reserve that title for BOTT).

Not even close... 

(http://www.brodavelister.com/images/Dylan_Hears_A_Who.jpg)

"And what would you do if you met a jibboo?"

Terry
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on April 02, 2012, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 02:36:22 PM
I am not trying to deny that Thriller is an iconic album and worthy of praise and I also agree that Highway 61 is not Dylan's best work (I reserve that title for BOTT).  I just can't give a vote to an album that, while very groundbreaking, held no significance to me and rarely, if ever, gets any playback in my house.

That's because you're Canadian.  :-P

USA! USA! USA!










:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
While this is true GAH, my wife would have picked MJ hands down but she's into that teeny bop dance stuff so  :-P
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: gah on April 02, 2012, 04:53:17 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on April 02, 2012, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 02:36:22 PM
I am not trying to deny that Thriller is an iconic album and worthy of praise and I also agree that Highway 61 is not Dylan's best work (I reserve that title for BOTT).  I just can't give a vote to an album that, while very groundbreaking, held no significance to me and rarely, if ever, gets any playback in my house.

That's because you're Canadian.  :-P

USA! USA! USA!










:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
While this is true GAH, my wife would have picked MJ hands down but she's into that teeny bop dance stuff so  :-P

Well....she....I was.....look, there's nothing wrong with liking scantily clad teenagers...wait...pop music is music too....I mean, it's called pop music for a reason, and if it appeals to the lowest denominator and.....goddamn it, he's the KING OF POP man!!!!

:frustrated:
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Igbo on April 02, 2012, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on April 02, 2012, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 02:36:22 PM
I am not trying to deny that Thriller is an iconic album and worthy of praise and I also agree that Highway 61 is not Dylan's best work (I reserve that title for BOTT).  I just can't give a vote to an album that, while very groundbreaking, held no significance to me and rarely, if ever, gets any playback in my house.

That's because you're Canadian.  :-P

USA! USA! USA!










:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
While this is true GAH, my wife would have picked MJ hands down but she's into that teeny bop dance stuff so  :-P

Are you considering MJ and "Thriller" to be teeny bop dance stuff?
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: sls.stormyrider on April 02, 2012, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 02, 2012, 12:07:58 PM
This feels like 2004 when I can't imagine anyone voting for Bush yet there he is winning...

definitely

Quote from: goodabouthood on April 02, 2012, 12:29:49 PM
Come on man, when this drops, you can't tell me you're sitting still.


you're right - I'm running to the controls and changing the tune to some good music.

shocked and stunned.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 05:12:39 PM
Quote from: Igbo on April 02, 2012, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on April 02, 2012, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 02:36:22 PM
I am not trying to deny that Thriller is an iconic album and worthy of praise and I also agree that Highway 61 is not Dylan's best work (I reserve that title for BOTT).  I just can't give a vote to an album that, while very groundbreaking, held no significance to me and rarely, if ever, gets any playback in my house.

That's because you're Canadian.  :-P

USA! USA! USA!










:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
While this is true GAH, my wife would have picked MJ hands down but she's into that teeny bop dance stuff so  :-P

Are you considering MJ and "Thriller" to be teeny bop dance stuff?

I was just teasing GAH.  I was simply making the point that I was not into pop music back then (or now for that matter) and my wife used to dance with her friends to Thriller until they wore the tape out.  I put him in the Madonna category in that they were huge pop icons of the 80s.
Ah forget it, it doesn't matter anyway.  :shakehead:
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Hicks on April 02, 2012, 05:15:48 PM
Madonna wishes she had half the performance skills of MJ in his prime.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Igbo on April 02, 2012, 05:32:40 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 05:12:39 PM
Quote from: Igbo on April 02, 2012, 05:00:24 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on April 02, 2012, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 02:36:22 PM
I am not trying to deny that Thriller is an iconic album and worthy of praise and I also agree that Highway 61 is not Dylan's best work (I reserve that title for BOTT).  I just can't give a vote to an album that, while very groundbreaking, held no significance to me and rarely, if ever, gets any playback in my house.

That's because you're Canadian.  :-P

USA! USA! USA!










:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
While this is true GAH, my wife would have picked MJ hands down but she's into that teeny bop dance stuff so  :-P

Are you considering MJ and "Thriller" to be teeny bop dance stuff?

I was just teasing GAH.  I was simply making the point that I was not into pop music back then (or now for that matter) and my wife used to dance with her friends to Thriller until they wore the tape out.  I put him in the Madonna category in that they were huge pop icons of the 80s.
Ah forget it, it doesn't matter anyway.  :shakehead:

Ha! I was ready to box over Michael Jackson not being teeny bopper.   :-D
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: danje on April 02, 2012, 06:06:55 PM
The popularity of Thriller on this board baffles me.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: mattstick on April 02, 2012, 06:10:16 PM
There are a lot of bad songs on Thriller.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Hicks on April 02, 2012, 06:13:30 PM
Quote from: mattstick on April 02, 2012, 06:10:16 PM
There are a lot of bad songs on Thriller.

Wrong, there are two.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Hicks on April 02, 2012, 06:18:11 PM
Quote from: danje on April 02, 2012, 06:06:55 PM
The popularity of Thriller on this board baffles me.

Does it also baffle you that it has sold over 60 million copies worldwide?
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: mattstick on April 02, 2012, 06:19:10 PM
Baby Be Mine, Human Nature, The Girl Is Mine = a lot.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: gah on April 02, 2012, 06:22:09 PM
Quote from: Hicks on April 02, 2012, 05:15:48 PM
Madonna's a whore that wishes she had half the performance skills of MJ in his prime.

I'll fix and further that!

Quote from: Igbo on April 02, 2012, 05:32:40 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 02, 2012, 05:12:39 PM

I was just teasing GAH.  I was simply making the point that I was not into pop music back then (or now for that matter) and my wife used to dance with her friends to Thriller until they wore the tape out.  I put him in the Madonna category in that they were huge pop icons of the 80s.
Ah forget it, it doesn't matter anyway.  :shakehead:

Ha! I was ready to box over Michael Jackson not being teeny bopper.   :-D

BB, I know you were messing around, but I also fully believe Igbo's blood pressure went up on this one.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Hicks on April 02, 2012, 06:23:28 PM
Quote from: mattstick on April 02, 2012, 06:19:10 PM
Baby Be Mine, Human Nature, The Girl Is Mine = a lot.

Baby Be Mine is a bad song but Lady In My Life isn't?

Have you even heard the songs in question?
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: mattstick on April 02, 2012, 06:29:20 PM

I didn't even remember Lady In My Life... It's the worst of 'em.

The hits are great, but my point remains the same - lots of filler.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Hicks on April 02, 2012, 06:32:54 PM
You're nuts Baby Be Mine is a classic, it would have been a massive hit on any other album.

Same with Human Nature.

ETA:  Human Nature actually was a top ten single. 
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: kellerb on April 02, 2012, 06:46:24 PM
Quote from: Hicks on April 02, 2012, 05:15:48 PM
Madonna wishes she had half the performance skills of MJ in his prime.

1.  that video where she deepthroats a huge bottle

2.  that video where she's tied up in a chair in a leather outfit

3.  Cleavage in "Secret" video

4.  Hard Nips in "Ray of Light" video

5.  80% of "Body of Evidence"

6.  "Sex"

7.  Early huge-hairy-beav pix

Oh wait, were you talking about music-related "performance"?
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: kellerb on April 02, 2012, 06:47:51 PM
Quote from: mattstick on April 02, 2012, 06:29:20 PM

I didn't even remember Lady In My Life... It's the worst of 'em.

The hits are great, but my point remains the same - lots of filler.

We should start an "Everything would be better as an EP" thread.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Hicks on April 02, 2012, 06:51:07 PM
Quote from: kellerb on April 02, 2012, 06:46:24 PM
Quote from: Hicks on April 02, 2012, 05:15:48 PM
Madonna wishes she had half the performance skills of MJ in his prime.

1.  that video where she deepthroats a huge bottle

2.  that video where she's tied up in a chair in a leather outfit

3.  Cleavage in "Secret" video

4.  Hard Nips in "Ray of Light" video

5.  80% of "Body of Evidence"

6.  "Sex"

7.  Early huge-hairy-beav pix

Oh wait, were you talking about music-related "performance"?

Your knowledge of Madonna's finest moments is indeed impressive.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: khalpin on April 02, 2012, 06:58:52 PM
Quote from: kellerb on April 02, 2012, 06:47:51 PM
Quote from: mattstick on April 02, 2012, 06:29:20 PM

I didn't even remember Lady In My Life... It's the worst of 'em.

The hits are great, but my point remains the same - lots of filler.

We should start an "Everything would be better as an EP" thread.
Or "65 minute CDs that would've been better as a 40 minute record"
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: mattstick on April 02, 2012, 07:08:00 PM
I'll give you Baby Be Mine, but Human Nature should be skipped unless you're making a playlist of cheesy 80s slow jams.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: kellerb on April 02, 2012, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: mattstick on April 02, 2012, 07:08:00 PM
I'll give you Baby Be Mine, but Human Nature should be skipped unless you're making a playlist of cheesy 80s slow jams.

Said playlist is pretty much just cougar-bait at this point.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: kellerb on April 02, 2012, 07:17:33 PM
Quote from: khalpin on April 02, 2012, 06:58:52 PM
Quote from: kellerb on April 02, 2012, 06:47:51 PM
Quote from: mattstick on April 02, 2012, 06:29:20 PM

I didn't even remember Lady In My Life... It's the worst of 'em.

The hits are great, but my point remains the same - lots of filler.

We should start an "Everything would be better as an EP" thread.
Or "65 minute CDs that would've been better as a 40 minute record"

Is there a standard minute cut-off for EP status?  40 minutes sounds accurate unless we're dealing with punk bands, and we aren't.  Punk band EPs are roughly 7 minutes long, I assume.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: sls.stormyrider on April 02, 2012, 07:35:14 PM
Quote from: Hicks on April 02, 2012, 06:18:11 PM
Quote from: danje on April 02, 2012, 06:06:55 PM
The popularity of Thriller on this board baffles me.

Does it also baffle you that it has sold over 60 million copies worldwide?
honestly, yes
but, on this board, the phrase popularity does not equal talent / quality etc (or something like that) has been said many times, and it's true.
also, imo, if it wasn't for the vids, this album wouldn't have done half as well as it did. even I have to admit, the vids are good.
MJ was a great entertainer, I don't put his music in the same category. I don't consider him a great musician, vocalist, or writer.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: susep on April 02, 2012, 08:15:22 PM
Quote from: slslbs on April 02, 2012, 07:35:14 PM
I don't consider him a great musician, vocalist, or writer.

I consider him a great vocalist.  sure he could dance also but its his vocals that I enjoy most.   
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Hicks on April 02, 2012, 08:34:04 PM
Quote from: mattstick on April 02, 2012, 07:08:00 PM
I'll give you Baby Be Mine, but Human Nature should be skipped unless you're making a playlist of cheesy 80s slow jams.

The world needs cheesy 80s slow jams and Human Nature is the Citizen Kane of the genre.

A true testament to 80s cheese for all time. 
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: sls.stormyrider on April 03, 2012, 08:47:09 AM
there are enough cheesy songs

the world needs more great songs - songs that are well composed with great lyrics.
Like a Rolling Stone
Ballad of a Thin Man
Tombstone Blues
Just Like Tom Thumbs Blues
It Takes a Lot to Laugh...
Desolation Row
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 08:53:41 AM
Besides... we are really voting an Dylan vs. Quincy Jones. Michael Jackson had very little to do with how Thriller sounds.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: mattstick on April 03, 2012, 09:30:32 AM

From what I've read/heard, Michael Jackson had a lot of musical input into his albums.  No doubt that Quincy was a big part, but give Michael his due.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Hicks on April 03, 2012, 12:01:46 PM
That's just not true PG.

MJ had to prove in a court room that he wrote the music to The Girl is Mine.

He won.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
Writing, perhaps. Arranging and creating the sound? Nope. Jones is responsible for how that album sounds. I stand by that statement.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: mbw on April 03, 2012, 12:50:02 PM
QuoteJones discussed "Billie Jean" and why it was so personal to Jackson, who struggled to deal with a number of obsessed fans. Jones wanted the long introduction on the song to be shortened; however, Jackson insisted that it remain because it made him want to dance.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: gah on April 03, 2012, 01:19:03 PM
There's no I in team. Who cares. It's still the greatest album of all time.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: khalpin on April 03, 2012, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on April 03, 2012, 01:19:03 PM
There's no I in team. Who cares. It's still the greatest album of all time.
No, that'd be this one:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61fIT3dkpSL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Hicks on April 03, 2012, 01:48:05 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
Writing, perhaps. Arranging and creating the sound? Nope. Jones is responsible for how that album sounds. I stand by that statement.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/4325168-post15.html
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: twatts on April 03, 2012, 01:48:48 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
Writing, perhaps. Arranging and creating the sound? Nope. Jones is responsible for how that album sounds. I stand by that statement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Martin

Can we go ahead and disqualify the other picks then??? 
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 02:07:21 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on April 03, 2012, 01:48:48 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
Writing, perhaps. Arranging and creating the sound? Nope. Jones is responsible for how that album sounds. I stand by that statement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Martin

Can we go ahead and disqualify the other picks then???

no -the Beatles played all that shit... except the orchestral stuff.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: twatts on April 03, 2012, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 02:07:21 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on April 03, 2012, 01:48:48 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
Writing, perhaps. Arranging and creating the sound? Nope. Jones is responsible for how that album sounds. I stand by that statement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Martin

Can we go ahead and disqualify the other picks then???

no -the Beatles played all that shit... except the orchestral stuff.

Then let's disqualify Hwy 61...  Dylan only sings and plays guitar.  He doesn't plays any of the music that is being played by the various studio musicians...

Terry
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: twatts on April 03, 2012, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: khalpin on April 03, 2012, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on April 03, 2012, 01:19:03 PM
There's no I in team. Who cares. It's still the greatest album of all time.
No, that'd be this one:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61fIT3dkpSL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

LOL!  Though I prefer Topo...

T
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 02:15:40 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on April 03, 2012, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 02:07:21 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on April 03, 2012, 01:48:48 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
Writing, perhaps. Arranging and creating the sound? Nope. Jones is responsible for how that album sounds. I stand by that statement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Martin

Can we go ahead and disqualify the other picks then???

no -the Beatles played all that shit... except the orchestral stuff.

Then let's disqualify Hwy 61...  Dylan only sings and plays guitar.  He doesn't plays any of the music that is being played by the various studio musicians...

Terry

quit being a little bitch about this... nobody doubts how much QJ had to do with the production of Thriller... I'm not disqualifying anything. I don't think it holds a candle to Hwy 61 and I voted as such. I'm making an argument to try to persuade others to change their vote so the right album can come out on top. that is all.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: susep on April 03, 2012, 02:19:34 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 02:15:40 PM
I'm making an argument to try to persuade others to change their vote so the right album can come out on top.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_daNgLy6d96o/TGNlDlVnbGI/AAAAAAAACBE/9OsQ_t-fH2c/s400/Preacher+Silhouette+2.jpg)
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: twatts on April 03, 2012, 02:33:28 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 02:15:40 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on April 03, 2012, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 02:07:21 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on April 03, 2012, 01:48:48 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
Writing, perhaps. Arranging and creating the sound? Nope. Jones is responsible for how that album sounds. I stand by that statement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Martin

Can we go ahead and disqualify the other picks then???

no -the Beatles played all that shit... except the orchestral stuff.

Then let's disqualify Hwy 61...  Dylan only sings and plays guitar.  He doesn't plays any of the music that is being played by the various studio musicians...

Terry

quit being a little bitch about this... nobody doubts how much QJ had to do with the production of Thriller... I'm not disqualifying anything. I don't think it holds a candle to Hwy 61 and I voted as such. I'm making an argument to try to persuade others to change their vote so the right album can come out on top. that is all.

"Wah...  My preferred album isn't winning and all my weak arguments are getting shot down..."

Who's being the "little bitch" about the "right" album???

Terry


 
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 03, 2012, 03:00:04 PM
I'm with PG in that I give Quincy Jones the majority of credit for how Thriller sounds.

Unlike PG -- I think it's a way better record than Highway 61.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: mbw on April 03, 2012, 03:17:54 PM
I would have voted Dylan had he also invented a culturally phenomenal dance to go with one of the songs.

Perhaps the Strike Breaker Boogie or the Hobo Hop.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: gah on April 03, 2012, 03:21:03 PM
Tensions running high as march madness continues into April!  :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

::shakes fist in air menacingly in uncleebs' direction screaming..."I swear to God if one of these old dudes has a heart attack, I'm gonna have rj ban you!"::
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Hicks on April 03, 2012, 04:01:03 PM
Quote from: Hicks on April 03, 2012, 01:48:05 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
Writing, perhaps. Arranging and creating the sound? Nope. Jones is responsible for how that album sounds. I stand by that statement.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/4325168-post15.html

My link, read it.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 04:29:35 PM
Quote from: Hicks on April 03, 2012, 04:01:03 PM
Quote from: Hicks on April 03, 2012, 01:48:05 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on April 03, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
Writing, perhaps. Arranging and creating the sound? Nope. Jones is responsible for how that album sounds. I stand by that statement.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/4325168-post15.html

My link, read it.

yeah yeah - and Los Lobos wrote all of Graceland.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: cactusfan on April 03, 2012, 06:41:03 PM
keep fighting the good fight, Pie Guy.

Highway 61 is so much better than Thriller my brain hurts thinking about it.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: mbw on April 03, 2012, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: cactusfan on April 03, 2012, 06:41:03 PM
Highway 61 is so much better than Thriller my brain hurts thinking about it.

i have a good stress relieving chant that will calm the brain.
repeat after me, slowly building in tempo:

Mama-say....     mama-sah      ......    ma-ma     ....coo-sah


Mama-say.... mama-sah.... ma-ma-coo-sah


Mama-say mama-sah ma-ma-coo-sah
Hoo! Hooo!
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: sls.stormyrider on April 03, 2012, 08:14:16 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on April 03, 2012, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: cactusfan on April 03, 2012, 06:41:03 PM
Highway 61 is so much better than Thriller my brain hurts thinking about it.

i have a good stress relieving chant that will calm the brain.
repeat after me, slowly building in tempo:

Mama-say....     mama-sah      ......    ma-ma     ....coo-sah


Mama-say.... mama-sah.... ma-ma-coo-sah


Mama-say mama-sah ma-ma-coo-sah
Hoo! Hooo!
MJs idea of deep and thoughtful lyrics
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: DoW on April 03, 2012, 08:16:51 PM
13 people are wrong on this thread.
I haven't looked at the bracket in full but thriller may be a finals candidate
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: cactusfan on April 03, 2012, 08:17:13 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on April 03, 2012, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: cactusfan on April 03, 2012, 06:41:03 PM
Highway 61 is so much better than Thriller my brain hurts thinking about it.

i have a good stress relieving chant that will calm the brain.
repeat after me, slowly building in tempo:

Mama-say....     mama-sah      ......    ma-ma     ....coo-sah


Mama-say.... mama-sah.... ma-ma-coo-sah


Mama-say mama-sah ma-ma-coo-sah
Hoo! Hooo!

my goodness, that IS refreshing!
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: gah on April 03, 2012, 10:17:49 PM
Quote from: cactusfan on April 03, 2012, 08:17:13 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on April 03, 2012, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: cactusfan on April 03, 2012, 06:41:03 PM
Highway 61 is so much better than Thriller my brain hurts thinking about it.

i have a good stress relieving chant that will calm the brain.
repeat after me, slowly building in tempo:

Mama-say....     mama-sah      ......    ma-ma     ....coo-sah


Mama-say.... mama-sah.... ma-ma-coo-sah


Mama-say mama-sah ma-ma-coo-sah
Hoo! Hooo!

my goodness, that IS refreshing!

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard

works much better than serenity now.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: kellerb on April 03, 2012, 10:21:59 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on April 03, 2012, 03:17:54 PM
I would have voted Dylan had he also invented a culturally phenomenal dance to go with one of the songs.

Perhaps the Strike Breaker Boogie or the Hobo Hop.

I've been trying to get my dylan-inspired dance to catch on, but "the titanic sails at dawn" is not catching fire on the dance floor.  Perhaps I should work on developing my B-plan Dance "the sun ain't yellow, it's chicken"-dance
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: sls.stormyrider on April 04, 2012, 05:23:48 AM
"There always has been popular, mindless dance music with a strong back beat."
Paraphrased from Pete Townsend
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: rowjimmy on April 04, 2012, 06:40:22 AM
Dylan may not have had a fancy dance but he did inspire an entire generation of rock an rollers to write their own songs.



Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: gah on April 04, 2012, 09:59:03 AM
Quote from: slslbs on April 04, 2012, 05:23:48 AM
"There always has been popular, mindless dance music with a strong back beat."
Paraphrased from Pete Townsend

Sooooo, you're saying it's timeless?



:hereitisyousentimentalbastard

Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: Igbo on April 04, 2012, 10:56:31 AM
Quote from: slslbs on April 03, 2012, 08:14:16 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on April 03, 2012, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: cactusfan on April 03, 2012, 06:41:03 PM
Highway 61 is so much better than Thriller my brain hurts thinking about it.

i have a good stress relieving chant that will calm the brain.
repeat after me, slowly building in tempo:

Mama-say....     mama-sah      ......    ma-ma     ....coo-sah


Mama-say.... mama-sah.... ma-ma-coo-sah


Mama-say mama-sah ma-ma-coo-sah
Hoo! Hooo!
MJs idea of deep and thoughtful lyrics

Technically, MJ didnt write that. He lifted it from Manu Dibango's classic "Soul Makossa."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWK_Josc0Og (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWK_Josc0Og)
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: gah on April 04, 2012, 12:13:46 PM
Quote from: Igbo on April 04, 2012, 10:56:31 AM
Quote from: slslbs on April 03, 2012, 08:14:16 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on April 03, 2012, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: cactusfan on April 03, 2012, 06:41:03 PM
Highway 61 is so much better than Thriller my brain hurts thinking about it.

i have a good stress relieving chant that will calm the brain.
repeat after me, slowly building in tempo:

Mama-say....     mama-sah      ......    ma-ma     ....coo-sah


Mama-say.... mama-sah.... ma-ma-coo-sah


Mama-say mama-sah ma-ma-coo-sah
Hoo! Hooo!
MJs idea of deep and thoughtful lyrics

Technically, MJ didnt write that. He lifted it from Manu Dibango's classic "Soul Makossa."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWK_Josc0Og (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWK_Josc0Og)

igbo dropping knowledge.  :clap:
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: khalpin on April 04, 2012, 12:19:45 PM
Check out the big brain on Igbo.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: rowjimmy on April 04, 2012, 12:58:03 PM
FYI & FWIW,

Michael Jackson has songwriting credit for four of the nine tracks on Thriller. QJ shares songwriting credit on just one.

Other credits:

Michael Jackson:   Arranger, Composer, Drums, Guitar, Handclapping, Horn Arrangements, Producer, Rhythm Arrangements, Sound Effects, Stomp Board, Synthesizer Arrangements, Vocal Arrangement, Vocals, Vocals (Background)

Quincy Jones:   Arranger, Producer, Rhythm Arrangements, Vocal Arrangement
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: twatts on April 04, 2012, 02:13:11 PM
Tough choice...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcJjMnHoIBI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nej4xJe4Tdg
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: mbw on March 27, 2014, 07:41:28 PM
Quote from: PG on April 03, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
Writing, perhaps. Arranging and creating the sound? Nope. Jones is responsible for how that album sounds. I stand by that statement.

check out this Beat It demo.  Michael could not play instruments, but the arranging and sound is all his on many of his songs.

http://lacienegasmiled.tumblr.com/post/77598143356/as-jackson-couldnt-fluently-play-any-instruments

props to roggae for posting this to the facebooks.
Title: Re: Rd 4 - 5 - Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited v 2 - Michael Jackson - Thriller
Post by: PIE-GUY on March 27, 2014, 07:47:42 PM
Quote from: mbw on March 27, 2014, 07:41:28 PM
Quote from: PG on April 03, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
Writing, perhaps. Arranging and creating the sound? Nope. Jones is responsible for how that album sounds. I stand by that statement.

check out this Beat It demo.  Michael could not play instruments, but the arranging and sound is all his on many of his songs.

http://lacienegasmiled.tumblr.com/post/77598143356/as-jackson-couldnt-fluently-play-any-instruments

props to roggae for posting this to the facebooks.

fack - that's really cool!!