Considering going vegetarian....

[Superfreakie]

I'm having a harder and harder time justifying the eating of animals. This is not a health decision. I've been reading a lot about animal conscience and recent developments in the field, and then a friend sent me the following link:

http://altering-perspectives.com/2013/11/scientists-sign-declaration-animals-conscious-awareness-just-like-humans.html

Problem, I've recently started lifting weights again following a doctor's green light that my separated shoulder from 2 years ago is fully healed. That said, I enjoy being cuddly but muscular, but not sure I can do it at the expense of an animal's life. I do consume protein shakes but meat helps. Was thinking maybe I should just eat meat until I hit my optimum performance mass (another year), then go into maintenance mode. For once the muscle is built and one no longer needs to bulk, then the consumption of necessary foods drops significantly. In other words, wait a year before going vege.   

Question, does anyone have any experience being a vegetarian and doing sports at an intense level? Also, you must take into consideration I work 80 hour weeks, so I can't be spending two hours a day boiling down fucking kimchi with other weird beans. I coached a women's team one year and one of the girls was a vege. It was hell to try to get her nutrition just right, a constant struggle.   

Hmmm, this all might come to pass and I'll be devouring 16 ounce Sirloins in NYC for NYE. But thought I'd throw it out there (I will be googling as well)...   

[twatts]

A girl I work with does marathons and triathalons...  And she's a veggie... 

She drinks two or those high-protein shakes at lunch everyday...  and she eats a lot of yogurt and other protein sources like nuts...

Terry

[birdman]

I dont know you any more.

[mistercharlie]

My wife's vegan and while not a weight lifter, she does work out/do yoga for an hour every morning and she gets the majority of her protein though nuts, tofu and beans. She also likes her protein shakes made with coconut milk.

[PIE-GUY]

Mark Bittman is kind of a douche, but he has adopted and is a proponent of a flexitarian approach. Basically, you can make the decision to reduce meat intake considerably for either moral or health reasons without eliminating it entirely.

I think what he does is keep completely vegan during daylight hours then eat some grass-fed or free range meat a few nights week only. I can't remember entirely. Do some googling on flexitarian, though. It may interest you.

[mbw]

I dont know you any more.

[birdman]

I dont know you any more.

Right?
Next he'll be telling us he hates lsd and is joining the the Church of Scientology.

[Buffalo Budd]

You've changed man  :shakehead:

[Igbo]

I'm all for people who give up the eating of animals for any reason. It's just not for me.

[sls.stormyrider]

If God didn't want us to eat meat he wouldn't have given us these things

[emay]

understandable.

Every time around thanksgiving I bust out the secret of butterball corp video which shows how cruel they treat the turkeys and animals at their farms.

[Superfreakie]

I dont know you any more.

Right?
Next he'll be telling us he hates lsd and is joining the the Church of Scientology.

Well that's what I've been sitting here contemplating. First, I'm gonna deliver this case to Marsellus. Then, basically, I'm just gonna walk the earth.

[danje]

I was vegetarian for 3 years. If you're a good cook it shouldn't be hard. Being a lazy college student though I just wasn't getting enough nutrition which made me stop.

[barnesy305]

I dont know you any more.

Right?
Next he'll be telling us he hates lsd and is joining the the Church of Scientology.

Well that's what I've been sitting here contemplating. First, I'm gonna deliver this case to Marsellus. Then, basically, I'm just gonna walk the earth.

Well we'd have to be talkin' about one charming motherfuckin' pig. I mean he'd have to be ten times more charmin' than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm sayin'?

[emay]

I dont know you any more.

Right?
Next he'll be telling us he hates lsd and is joining the the Church of Scientology.

Well that's what I've been sitting here contemplating. First, I'm gonna deliver this case to Marsellus. Then, basically, I'm just gonna walk the earth.

Well we'd have to be talkin' about one charming motherfuckin' pig. I mean he'd have to be ten times more charmin' than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm sayin'?

Its okay guys, I figured out why he was reading this article
last paragraph

In humans, the effect of certain hallucinogens appears to be associated with a disruption in cortical feedforward and feedback processing. Pharmacological interventions in non-human animals with compounds known to affect conscious behavior in humans can lead to similar perturbations in behavior in non-human animals. In humans, there is evidence to suggest that awareness is correlated with cortical activity, which does not exclude possible contributions by subcortical or early cortical processing, as in visual awareness. Evidence that human and nonhuman animal emotional feelings arise from homologous subcortical brain networks provide compelling evidence for evolutionarily shared primal affective qualia.