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Started by jephrey, June 07, 2006, 11:54:14 AM

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jephrey

I think I understand this Network Neutrality bill that passed.  If anyone can dumb it down, that'd be cool.  (I got this from MacRumours so it'll mention apple/mac)

QuoteWhile not immediately Mac-related, many readers may be interested in the status of recent legislation regarding "Network Neutrality."

In brief, Network Neutrality is the concept that networks should be "dumb" and treat each type of data traveling over it equally. This is in contrast to an intelligent network where the network knows what kind of data is flowing over it (i.e. peer-to-peer, VoIP, HTTP (web traffic), quicktime streams, etc...), and treats each kind differently depending on its needs or according to external parameters placed by the network administrator.

Issues regarding Network Neutrality heightened in the past decade with the rise of consumers using VPN's and Wi-Fi. In response, some ISP's put restrictions on consumer's use of VPN's and Wi-Fi or routers. In addition, with the rise of VoIP some ISP's have been shaping VoIP traffic in order to "encourage" customers to buy higher-priced plans without VoIP traffic shaping.

Macworld reports that the U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee has voted 20-13 to approve the "Internet Freedom and Nondiscrimination Act." The Network Neutrality bill will require broadband providers to give independent content providers the same speed and quality of service as they have.

The bill is not without controversy. Some critics have charged that the bill is a step towards regulating the internet which will stifle innovation. There are other critics as well:

This week, the First Response Coalition, a trade group representing police and firefighters, sent a letter to the Judiciary Committee saying that debate over "niche issues" such as net neutrality are slowing down broader telecom reform legislation that would give emergency responders more radio spectrum. "First responders cannot wait any longer to have modern communications and interoperable radios," said the letter.
Competing legislation awaiting action on the House floor approved by the House Energy and Commerce Committee in April is a more wide-ranging telecommunications reform bill, but is not as strong in enforcing neutral networks as the recent bill passed by the Judiciary Committee.
There are 10 types of people in this world.  Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

VDB

This thread may belong in Politiw00k but here we go.

Did you see John Oliver this week? He devoted a long segment to net neutrality that's 100% worth watching:



In it, he exhorts all of us to visit fcc.gov/comments, where they are currently taking public input on new proposed rules to establish the ability of ISPs to take extra payment from content providers for faster or ensured access to customers. Think Comcast shaking down Netflix.

Evidently Oliver may have even been the cause of the FCC's system going down Monday.

I left a comment with the FCC and you should too. So far they've gotten over 45k comments, far and away more than on any other issue they have up right now.
Is this still Wombat?

rowjimmy

The 45k comments are all from before Oliver's show aired...
No idea what the number is up to now but I'd bet we've doubled that handily.

VDB

Is this still Wombat?

GBL

That clip was absolutely hilarious!

I especially liked the sting reference, just for sophist LOL
If this is love, I'm never going home..

VDB

Quote from: GBL on June 04, 2014, 03:38:42 PM
I especially liked the sting reference, just for sophist LOL

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
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runawayjimbo

Not surprisingly, the issue is much more nuanced than Oliver's (obvious hilarious) clip.

http://fw.to/kWi9USC

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John Oliver finds humor in net neutrality, but loses the facts

median John Oliver of HBO's "Last Week Tonight with John Oliver" has done the unimaginable: He made the debate over the Federal Communications Commission's proposed net neutrality rules compelling. Now if only he'd gotten the facts right.

Oliver, who honed his news-reading-as-comedy chops with Jon Stewart at Comedy Central's "The Daily Show," presented a segment on net neutrality Sunday that combined equal parts humor and outrage. The latter sprang from the notion that the FCC, led by a former cable industry lobbyist, wants to let cable companies set up fast lanes and slow lanes online.

Or, as Oliver put it, "If we let cable companies offer two speeds of service, they won't be Usain Bolt and Usain Bolt on a motorbike. They'll be Usain Bolt and Usain Bolted to an anchor."

He also argued that cable operators would "shake down" content providers, old-school mobster style, by threatening to slow down their data. As proof, he offered up a graph from Netflix showing how its video streaming speeds on Comcast had fallen sharply before Netflix cut a deal to pay Comcast directly for interconnection, after which the speeds jumped.

There was a grain of truth to his narrative, but Oliver misled his audience badly on a couple of key points.

First, he started his rant on the proposed rules by saying, "The Internet in its current form is not broken, and the FCC is currently taking steps to fix that." It's true that the status quo online is the way things should be, with Internet service providers treating all legitimate traffic equally. That's the essence of net neutrality.

The issue is whether the status quo can be sustained without a clear federal prohibition on ISPs picking winners and losers. There's no such thing today. The federal courts have thrown out two previous attempts by the FCC to stop ISPs from handling traffic on the last mile (that is, broadband connections to homes or offices) in an unreasonably discriminatory way. So, at the insistence of Chairman Tom Wheeler (who is, as Oliver correctly noted, a former top lobbyist for the cable industry, as well as the wireless industry), the commission has proposed a new set of rules that are designed to pass muster with the federal bench.

Second, Oliver characterized the proposal as a move by Comcast and other cable operators (a term he also applied to Verizon and AT&T, the country's two biggest phone companies) to create fast and slow lanes online. If that's what they want to do, however, they'd be better off with the FCC not adopting any rules at all.

The real question is what's the best way to preserve the Internet as an open platform for innovation and content, without interference from the cable and phone companies that dominate the market for broadband connections. Some conservative and libertarian critics of Wheeler's proposal, including the two Republicans on the FCC, argue that the market will preserve the Internet's best qualities, with no need for burdensome regulation.

Others, including some consumer advocates and Web-based companies, argue that the proposed rule wouldn't go far enough to protect Internet users and innovators. That's because it would allow ISPs to cut deals with websites and services for favorable treatment, as long as they weren't "commercially unreasonable." They want the FCC to reclassify broadband as a communications service subject to stringent regulation -- an approach that would be sure to draw lawsuits from telecommunications companies and opposition from Congress.

To placate that faction, Wheeler's proposal would explore reclassification as an alternative to the chairman's preferred method, which follows the more permissive legal path suggested by the  federal D.C. Circuit appeals court. He also argues that his approach wouldn't let ISPs hobble companies that don't strike deals, because that would be commercially unreasonable. The proposal also leaves open the possibility that the FCC could declare paid prioritization to be unreasonable on its face.

That's a bit too nuanced an explanation for Oliver, however. To him, the deal between Comcast and Netflix is clear evidence of cable operators' nefarious ambition to create a two-tiered Internet.

But that deal has nothing to do with net neutrality, at least not how it's defined today.

This is a point that the media have flubbed repeatedly. Net neutrality is about whether ISPs will be allowed to favor some bits over others -- to prioritize their partners' traffic, giving them an unfair advantage over the rest of the data in the queue. Netflix's agreement with Comcast, on the other hand, addresses how its data gets into the queue.

Netflix had been paying Cogent, a "transit provider" that delivers data online from one ISP to another, to carry at least some of its streams to broadband ISPs such as Comcast. But Cogent's connections with Comcast were becoming congested as the two companies squabbled over how much capacity Comcast would provide and at what cost. According to analyst Dan Rayburn, Comcast's deals with transit providers let them deliver a limited amount of data for free, after which point they have to pay extra. So Netflix moved to cut out the middleman and connect directly to Comcast, a move that Rayburn suggests actually saved Netflix money.

The deal, in other words, didn't put Netflix in a fast lane or give its data priority over other sites' traffic.

Details, details, details. What you think about net neutrality and the FCC's proposed rule depends in large measure on how hard you want to stick it to the cable companies, and hey, who doesn't despise them and their abysmal customer service? One sure way to get people interested in a mind-numbingly complex public-policy issue is to characterize it as a favor to the evil cable guys, so that's how Oliver played it.

He urged the public, and particularly Internet "trolls," to "focus your indiscriminate rage in a useful direction" by telling the FCC not to approve the proposed rule. And many did, letting their Caps Locked outrage loose in such comments as "YOU MUST UPHOLD NET NEUTRALITY AND NET FREEDOM!!!!!! DON'T WUSS OUT TO THOSE CORPORATE [expletive deleted]. DO THE RIGHT THING."

Happily, though, there's no shortage of comments that recognize what the FCC is actually wrestling with. You can read them here, or file your own comment here.
Quote from: DoW on October 26, 2013, 09:06:17 PM
I'm drunk but that was epuc

Quote from: mehead on June 22, 2016, 11:52:42 PM
The Line still sucks. Hard.

Quote from: Gumbo72203 on July 25, 2017, 08:21:56 PM
well boys, we fucked up by not being there.

rowjimmy

Wait, someone on TV simplified an issue for the sake of permitting their audience to understand it?

Get the rope!

runawayjimbo

Quote from: rowjimmy on June 05, 2014, 11:34:46 AM
Wait, someone on TV simplified an issue for the sake of permitting their audience to understand it?

Get the rope!

Simplification is not the issue. It's when you oversimplify to the point of distorting the facts (even unintentionally) that it becomes a problem.
Quote from: DoW on October 26, 2013, 09:06:17 PM
I'm drunk but that was epuc

Quote from: mehead on June 22, 2016, 11:52:42 PM
The Line still sucks. Hard.

Quote from: Gumbo72203 on July 25, 2017, 08:21:56 PM
well boys, we fucked up by not being there.

rowjimmy

Should I move this thread to politiw00k?