Fall '96 open critique

[susep]

I thought it would be fun if we talked about this tour esp. in light of its catapult of Phish towards funkdiom.

[susep]

 
3Nov>Bouncin' sounds unique with Perazzo certainly more towards the African influence Trey recently spoke of.  Tweezer begins funky and click clockedy>comparable to 24July99 in rythym/time>nice statements by Trey>nice contrast to the poly rythymic Perazzo>jam sounding like Dec. 95>clock returns>Phish searching for the collective, MMW style expression>high sustain by Trey>certainly over-rated imo. :-D

6Nov>FEFY features inspired runs by Trey.  Bowie rages like a good set closer.  Mike's sets an omnious tone>post jam finds Page experimenting leaving Trey sparse lines but great funk rythym/effect practice.

7Nov>Stash rips, standout version.  Gin contains its always evolving expression>hooking up big time>Page dominating>many moods.  Again overrated.  :-D  By ths time YEM had become funk #1 or 2 or ...

8Nov>DWD rages like many '96 versions.  Lope pushes the limits, liquid Trey.  Simple has it, that sound of simplicity>Trey on his rack>loops>raging Trey crescendo.  Funky Mike's into blazing Trey>cool jam follows. 

9Nov>Melt has a nice flow, descending chromaticism>high energy.  Funk house in YEM>over a year later they would drop the ultimate funk bomb at the Palace>great sound, crowd loving it>hose down.  Tasting better each show.

11Nov>Brother rages, great version ala 31Oct.  Timber yields he jamming>Fish racous infuences Trey>intenional soloing>experimental>Zappa-esque>great version.  Tweezer begins funky hinting at Mike's 8Nov jam>nice rythym by Trey but hits the rack too early>more funky then 3Nov, Mike esp.>nice transition>he sustain into 31Dec91 like breakdown/outro.

13Nov>post-Suzy jam not as connected but Phish showing their all about letting go>Dec '95 sound>another YEM is another scale on the Phish exoskeleton>nice solo effort by Trey.

15Nov>Maki-"stink kind".  Rippin' Maze>like so any on this tour this one burns.  Mike's transitions nto a neat, MSG95-esque groove.  Mean Mr.>Trey's love for Abbey Road.






 

[mattstick]

There's so much goodstuff on the Fall '96 tour, people slam it all the time, mostly because of all the Billy Breathes material - but if you made a highlights disc of the entire tour it would be right up there with any other.

[crnl4bn]

There's so much goodstuff on the Fall '96 tour, people slam it all the time, mostly because of all the Billy Breathes material - but if you made a highlights disc of the entire tour it would be right up there with any other.

righty-o...

[Itsnotanexperience]

that's true......lots of stuff to really enjoy, and you could put the 12/6/96 show right up there w/ several more classic shows........

[Alumni]

Bumping this one following Project '96's  11.23.96 seed.

One general memory of Fall '96 that I have is that there was a lot of hand-wringing over whether Trey would ever "wail" anymore, or if he would just beat around on the mini-kit at every opportunity (And in fairness, it's not as though anybody had a pile of '97 CDRs lying around to proove that this would pay off).

After listening to 11.23.96 on a 2 hour drive yesterday . . . yikes. I don't think that's what people had in mind. I'm not sure whether Trey was playing the 'doc or committing aggravated assault upon it. It might have been a blast to see live, and it's memorable for its, um, energy. But on CD, in a car, with no sentimental stuff in the picture, this show struck me as the ANTI-n*sync that we were talking about recently. There are some really good Fall 96s, but this ain't one of 'em, imo. $.02

[Itsnotanexperience]

interesting commentary - i've never heard the show but just dl'd it - now i can't wait ot hear what you're talking about............good point about the "wail"  - you're right - i remember sitting at the 11/15/96 show listening to a very jaded head bitching about that very thing........."trey's a fucking guitarist, not a drummer, ya know what i mean, man??!"   

[mattstick]

I've always thought 11/23 was one of the weakest shows of the tour.

Mid-Highway Blues is cool, but that's about it.

[susep]

I've always thought 11/23 was one of the weakest shows of the tour.

Mid-Highway Blues is cool, but that's about it.

I kind of dig the Mike's Groove(although by the end of 'paug Trey sounds out of tune) w/ funny Makisupa about the border incident. :mrgreen:

[gainesvillegreen]

7Nov>Stash rips, standout version. 

Yes, yes, and yes.  Had that Gin not occurred in Lexington that night, I think many of us would be talking about this Stash.

I love this tour.  Simple spread it's wings.  Has one the best Reba's ever performed (imo) in 11/8 (and Reba was performed well and often throughout the tour).  There was marked increase in Down with Disease from the Summer.  Second set 11/27 is one of the best of the year.  11/2 can be argued (not by me) that way as well.  10/26 is one of my personal favorite shows to throw on at any time and listen from beginning to end.  And on and on...     

[susep]

12/4 smokes, 12/1, 11/19, 11/16 also rock.

[ucusty]

there was alot of shows on that tour....

[OctopusRider]

I only saw a few shows in Fall '96. Civic Arena 11-24-96 and the Philly Holiday shows. What do you all think of those shows???

[susep]

Has one the best Reba's ever performed (imo) in 11/8 (and Reba was performed well and often throughout the tour).

1Dec. is another cool version.  I listened to 8Nov. last night and I like the "woot-woot" jamming.  The "woot-woot" is heard in a lot of the jams, 11Nov. Tweezer, 9Nov. YEM et al.  Definitely an ear-mark for that tour.

[mattstick]

No doubt.  I love that 11/11/96 Tweezer - I used to have a great vid of it on VHS and must've watched that Tweezer 100 times.