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Poll
Question: what classic song has been ruined the most by d whalez?
Option 1: Piper votes: 3
Option 2: Split Open votes: 22
Option 3: Bathtub votes: 2
Option 4: Simple votes: 0
Option 5: Ghost votes: 3
Option 6: other votes: 7
Title: Death by Whale poll
Post by: VA $l!m on July 11, 2010, 12:32:45 AM
tough choice.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: MiamiPhish on July 11, 2010, 12:47:56 AM
SOAM.  Absolutely not a jam for the whale.  Shred it, dissect it, split it open, melt it, and put it back together.  SOAM.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: mistercharlie on July 11, 2010, 12:49:30 AM
Melt.

Not a good song in 3.0.  :shakehead:
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: sophist on July 11, 2010, 12:56:17 AM
Quote from: MiamiPhish on July 11, 2010, 12:47:56 AM
SOAM.  Absolutely not a jam for the whale.  Shred it, dissect it, split it open, melt it, and put it back together.  SOAM.
THIS. 
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: VA $l!m on July 11, 2010, 01:02:53 AM
shit. im listneing to MPP2 and realize that i should throw ghost in the mix :-o
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: Hicks on July 11, 2010, 01:25:22 AM
Split, 2010 versions have been pretty much unlistenable.

Runner up:  Piper.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: mbw on July 11, 2010, 01:26:07 AM
i voted piper.  not necessarily for the whale, which is abundant, but because it sucks all together in 3.0.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: Alumni on July 11, 2010, 02:00:06 AM
Tough to argue with Melt.

But I'll say Reba.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: ytowndan on July 11, 2010, 02:47:17 AM
Quote from: Alumni on July 11, 2010, 02:00:06 AM
Tough to argue with Melt.

But I'll say Reba.

Both of these have been quite bad.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: newage on July 11, 2010, 03:03:41 AM
Hood could be on this list as well
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: cactusfan on July 11, 2010, 03:32:27 AM
i'm thinking Bowie.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: antelope19 on July 11, 2010, 11:29:21 AM
Voted for Melt as well
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: birdman on July 11, 2010, 11:36:25 AM
I voted other judging by the Bowies on this run.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: VA $l!m on July 11, 2010, 11:39:02 AM
Quote from: newage on July 11, 2010, 03:03:41 AM
Hood could be on this list as well

...the possibilities are endless!!! :crazy: :clap:
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: antelope19 on July 11, 2010, 11:47:05 AM
This could end up being the best(or worst) execution style EVAR!!!!

You shall be sentenced to "death by Whale Call"   :-o

:wink:
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: Superfreakie on July 11, 2010, 11:48:11 AM
Quote from: Hicks on July 11, 2010, 01:25:22 AM
Split, 2010 versions have been pretty much unlistenable.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: mistercharlie on July 11, 2010, 12:47:04 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 11, 2010, 11:47:05 AM
This could end up being the best(or worst) execution style EVAR!!!!

You shall be sentenced to "death by Whale Call"   :-o

:wink:

I think that would be deemed a 'cruel and unusual punishment'.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: VDB on July 12, 2010, 12:04:39 PM
A hard call.

I almost voted for Gin even though it has seen some (relatively) strong versions this go-'round, but considering what a monstrous and consistent jam vehicle it was for years, its comparative impotence has nevertheless been something of a personal disappointment for me.

I agree that Reba or Hood might be the top contenders for this "prize"...
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: gah on July 12, 2010, 02:59:26 PM
this was easy. soam. what he has done to that  is a damn shame.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 03:05:51 PM
You guys are COMPLETELY MAD.

I honestly think the whale call works better in SOAM jams than anything else.  Don't get me wrong, I wish SOAM jams could be what they used to be, but I am not opposed to the direction they are trying to take it.  I get it.  Can't say they have completely nailed one yet in 3.0, but I really liked both the Red Rocks and Camden version from this year.

Falling apart, chaotic, disastrous, wild, mind bending, "is this even music?" sort of feel.  I dig it.  Tension, tension, teeennssiiiooon.....release?....nope.... moooorreee...teeeennssiiioooonnnnn......  :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Rebas and Hoods suffer most.  Whales do NOT belong in those jams....
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: Hicks on July 12, 2010, 03:07:27 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 03:05:51 PM
You guys are COMPLETELY MAD.

I honestly think the whale call works better in SOAM jams than anything else.  Don't get me wrong, I wish SOAM jams could be what they used to be, but I am not opposed to the direction they are trying to take it.  I get it.  Can't say they have completely nailed one yet in 3.0, but I really liked both the Red Rocks and Camden version from this year.

Falling apart, chaotic, disastrous, wild, mind bending, "is this even music?" sort of feel.  I dig it. 

Rebas and Hoods suffer most.  Whales do NOT belong in those jams....

They played Red Rocks this year?

Also, the version from 6/25 is donkey balls.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 03:08:39 PM
Quote from: Hicks on July 12, 2010, 03:07:27 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 03:05:51 PM
You guys are COMPLETELY MAD.

I honestly think the whale call works better in SOAM jams than anything else.  Don't get me wrong, I wish SOAM jams could be what they used to be, but I am not opposed to the direction they are trying to take it.  I get it.  Can't say they have completely nailed one yet in 3.0, but I really liked both the Red Rocks and Camden version from this year.

Falling apart, chaotic, disastrous, wild, mind bending, "is this even music?" sort of feel.  I dig it. 

Rebas and Hoods suffer most.  Whales do NOT belong in those jams....

They played Red Rocks this year?

Also, the version from 6/25 is donkey balls.

YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS BECAUSE THEY HATE THE PACIFIC NW!!!!
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: Hicks on July 12, 2010, 03:10:30 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 03:08:39 PM
Quote from: Hicks on July 12, 2010, 03:07:27 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 03:05:51 PM
You guys are COMPLETELY MAD.

I honestly think the whale call works better in SOAM jams than anything else.  Don't get me wrong, I wish SOAM jams could be what they used to be, but I am not opposed to the direction they are trying to take it.  I get it.  Can't say they have completely nailed one yet in 3.0, but I really liked both the Red Rocks and Camden version from this year.

Falling apart, chaotic, disastrous, wild, mind bending, "is this even music?" sort of feel.  I dig it. 

Rebas and Hoods suffer most.  Whales do NOT belong in those jams....

They played Red Rocks this year?

Also, the version from 6/25 is donkey balls.

YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS BECAUSE THEY HATE THE PACIFIC NW!!!!

Seeing as how the best 3.0 show was played right here in the NW I don't think I have anything to be jealous about.   :samurai:
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 03:14:30 PM
Quote from: Hicks on July 12, 2010, 03:10:30 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 03:08:39 PM
Quote from: Hicks on July 12, 2010, 03:07:27 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 03:05:51 PM
You guys are COMPLETELY MAD.

I honestly think the whale call works better in SOAM jams than anything else.  Don't get me wrong, I wish SOAM jams could be what they used to be, but I am not opposed to the direction they are trying to take it.  I get it.  Can't say they have completely nailed one yet in 3.0, but I really liked both the Red Rocks and Camden version from this year.

Falling apart, chaotic, disastrous, wild, mind bending, "is this even music?" sort of feel.  I dig it. 

Rebas and Hoods suffer most.  Whales do NOT belong in those jams....

They played Red Rocks this year?

Also, the version from 6/25 is donkey balls.

YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS BECAUSE THEY HATE THE PACIFIC NW!!!!

Seeing as how the best 3.0 show was played right here in the NW I don't think I have anything to be jealous about.   :samurai:

Damn it.

I don't know that I can argue differently.

I might have had more fun at 1-2 shows this summer, but the Gorge was really something else....
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: JPhishman on July 12, 2010, 03:16:23 PM
Bowie, hood, Reba  :cry:
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: UncleEbinezer on July 12, 2010, 03:42:14 PM
I voted for Melt.    :cry:

I think in Reba, sometimes it works.           :ducks:
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: antelope19 on July 12, 2010, 03:45:36 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 03:14:30 PM

Damn it.

I don't know that I can argue differently.

I might have had more fun at 1-2 shows this summer, but the Gorge was really something else....

QFT  Although, I don't know if I've had more fun at a show than that weekend either. 
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: VDB on July 12, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on July 12, 2010, 03:42:14 PM
I think in Reba, sometimes it works.           :ducks:

It only works when it works, if you know what I'm saying. The problem is, the whale usually doesn't work. So it doesn't work.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 12, 2010, 03:45:36 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 03:14:30 PM

Damn it.

I don't know that I can argue differently.

I might have had more fun at 1-2 shows this summer, but the Gorge was really something else....

QFT  Although, I don't know if I've had more fun at a show than that weekend either.

You REALLY should have came to Portsmouth.  :wink:
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: VA $l!m on July 12, 2010, 04:31:11 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 12, 2010, 03:45:36 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 03:14:30 PM

Damn it.

I don't know that I can argue differently.

I might have had more fun at 1-2 shows this summer, but the Gorge was really something else....

QFT  Although, I don't know if I've had more fun at a show than that weekend either.

You REALLY should have came to Portsmouth.  :wink:

yeah, even if some peeps that attended might not dig listening to the show as much as me, i still dont think there was a single Pauger that didnt have an 3P1C time down in VA. 1 high st FTW!!
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 05:03:01 PM
Quote from: !cEm@n $l!m on July 12, 2010, 04:31:11 PM
i still dont think there was a single Pauger that didnt have an 3P1C time down in VA. 1 high st FTW!!

QFMFT.

You picked the right one to show up for Slim, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: mehead on July 12, 2010, 05:05:14 PM
soam
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 05:09:02 PM
Okay, so I'm grossly outnumbered here.

Do y'all hate the whale call in SOAM because you don't like that style of jamming (falling apart, dissonance)

or because it has taken place of, what used to be, a great jam vehicle that could go anywhere?

Let me guess, both?  :-D
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: antelope19 on July 12, 2010, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 05:09:02 PM
Okay, so I'm grossly outnumbered here.

Do y'all hate the whale call in SOAM because you don't like that style of jamming (falling apart, dissonance)

or because it has taken place of, what used to be, a great jam vehicle that could go anywhere?

Let me guess, both?  :-D

In this case, I would go with the latter.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: VA $l!m on July 12, 2010, 05:14:46 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 05:03:01 PM
Quote from: !cEm@n $l!m on July 12, 2010, 04:31:11 PM
i still dont think there was a single Pauger that didnt have an 3P1C time down in VA. 1 high st FTW!!

QFMFT.

You picked the right one to show up for Slim, that's for sure.

slimstradamus
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: Hicks on July 12, 2010, 05:17:57 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 05:09:02 PM
Okay, so I'm grossly outnumbered here.

Do y'all hate the whale call in SOAM because you don't like that style of jamming (falling apart, dissonance)

or because it has taken place of, what used to be, a great jam vehicle that could go anywhere?

Let me guess, both?  :-D

Honestly if Bowie had been included I might have chosen it since the last two versions left such a terrible taste in my mouth.

But Split is all about tension and release and all out sonic insanity, the whale call brings neither of those qualities.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: mistercharlie on July 12, 2010, 05:26:21 PM
Quote from: Hicks on July 12, 2010, 05:17:57 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 05:09:02 PM
Okay, so I'm grossly outnumbered here.

Do y'all hate the whale call in SOAM because you don't like that style of jamming (falling apart, dissonance)

or because it has taken place of, what used to be, a great jam vehicle that could go anywhere?

Let me guess, both?  :-D

Honestly if Bowie had been included I might have chosen it since the last two versions left such a terrible taste in my mouth.

But Split is all about tension and release and all out sonic insanity, the whale call brings neither of those qualities.

This
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: ytowndan on July 12, 2010, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on July 12, 2010, 05:26:21 PM
Quote from: Hicks on July 12, 2010, 05:17:57 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 05:09:02 PM
Okay, so I'm grossly outnumbered here.

Do y'all hate the whale call in SOAM because you don't like that style of jamming (falling apart, dissonance)

or because it has taken place of, what used to be, a great jam vehicle that could go anywhere?

Let me guess, both?  :-D

Honestly if Bowie had been included I might have chosen it since the last two versions left such a terrible taste in my mouth.

But Split is all about tension and release and all out sonic insanity, the whale call brings neither of those qualities.

This
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: G. Augusto on July 12, 2010, 05:39:07 PM
The new Split is just boring... :|
Last good one was 07-15-1999.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: mistercharlie on July 12, 2010, 05:41:46 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on July 12, 2010, 05:39:07 PM
The new Split is just boring... :|
Last good one was 07-15-1999.
07-22-03 wasn't bad.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: Hicks on July 12, 2010, 06:11:06 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on July 12, 2010, 05:41:46 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on July 12, 2010, 05:39:07 PM
The new Split is just boring... :|
Last good one was 07-15-1999.
07-22-03 wasn't bad.

Red Rocks was decent, not great, but decent.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: VA $l!m on July 12, 2010, 06:14:00 PM
Quote from: Hicks on July 12, 2010, 06:11:06 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on July 12, 2010, 05:41:46 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on July 12, 2010, 05:39:07 PM
The new Split is just boring... :|
Last good one was 07-15-1999.
07-22-03 wasn't bad.

Red Rocks was decent, not great, but decent.

mother nature helped that one along a bit
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: mehead on July 12, 2010, 06:19:44 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 12, 2010, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 12, 2010, 05:09:02 PM
Okay, so I'm grossly outnumbered here.

Do y'all hate the whale call in SOAM because you don't like that style of jamming (falling apart, dissonance)

or because it has taken place of, what used to be, a great jam vehicle that could go anywhere?

Let me guess, both?  :-D

In this case, I would go with the latter.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: sunrisevt on July 12, 2010, 10:06:25 PM
I would like to take this opportunity to encourage all of you to read out loud the title of this thread.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: mistercharlie on July 12, 2010, 10:16:40 PM
Quote from: sunrisevt on July 12, 2010, 10:06:25 PM
I would like to take this opportunity to encourage all of you to read out loud the title of this thread.

(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9571/whalepole.jpg)
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: birdman on July 12, 2010, 10:17:10 PM
Quote from: sunrisevt on July 12, 2010, 10:06:25 PM
I would like to take this opportunity to encourage all of you to read out loud the title of this thread.
:lol:
Horrible way to go
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: Mr Minor on July 12, 2010, 11:02:14 PM
Quote from: sunrisevt on July 12, 2010, 10:06:25 PM
I would like to take this opportunity to encourage all of you to read out loud the title of this thread.

:clap:


Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: Gumbo72203 on July 12, 2010, 11:45:47 PM
Reba has been hurt the most, I think.  Along with Weekapaug, which has fortunately been coming back.  Piper has been the most up and down, i'd say, though; by the end of Summer '09, they were heating that up real well.  And then it died until F8, which is fucking SICK, and then it died again until MPP.  Most bi-polar jam song.

Hood seems to not be able to break out of its slump either.  I'm wishing we could get a 7/31/03 again...  that shit fucking kills it real nice and good-like.  Hate on PH, but that Hood owns. 




Regardless of the whale, I want my whammy loop back.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: Superfreakie on July 13, 2010, 12:33:05 AM
Quote from: birdman on July 12, 2010, 10:17:10 PM
Quote from: sunrisevt on July 12, 2010, 10:06:25 PM
I would like to take this opportunity to encourage all of you to read out loud the title of this thread.
:lol:
Horrible way to go

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard :clap:
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: Hicks on July 13, 2010, 01:01:24 AM
Miami 09 Piper is pretty fucking sweet though.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2010, 03:05:22 AM
Wait a tic.

Did Aug just say 07-15-99 was the last good Split and NO ONE even mentioned Big Cypress?

I might be the one who likes 3.0 Melts, but you guys are still slippin...... :|
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: Hicks on July 13, 2010, 10:54:46 AM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2010, 03:05:22 AM
Wait a tic.

Did Aug just say 07-15-99 was the last good Split and NO ONE even mentioned Big Cypress?

I might be the one who likes 3.0 Melts, but you guys are still slippin...... :|

Good call.
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2010, 02:39:58 PM
Quote from: Hicks on July 13, 2010, 10:54:46 AM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2010, 03:05:22 AM
Wait a tic.

Did Aug just say 07-15-99 was the last good Split and NO ONE even mentioned Big Cypress?

I might be the one who likes 3.0 Melts, but you guys are still slippin...... :|

Good call.

And just like that, we're friends again. Awwww.....

(http://419.bittenus.com/7/9/hug.jpg)
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: gah on July 13, 2010, 02:47:03 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2010, 02:39:58 PM
Quote from: Hicks on July 13, 2010, 10:54:46 AM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2010, 03:05:22 AM
Wait a tic.

Did Aug just say 07-15-99 was the last good Split and NO ONE even mentioned Big Cypress?

I might be the one who likes 3.0 Melts, but you guys are still slippin...... :|

Good call.

And just like that, we're friends again. Awwww.....

(http://419.bittenus.com/7/9/hug.jpg)

aren't those the toilet paper bears?
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2010, 02:48:35 PM
uhhhh..... poopy bears need love too!
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: mistercharlie on July 13, 2010, 05:10:48 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2010, 02:48:35 PM
uhhhh..... poopy bears need love too!

So a bear and a rabbit are taking a shit in the woods...
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: kellerb on July 13, 2010, 05:42:32 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on July 13, 2010, 05:10:48 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2010, 02:48:35 PM
uhhhh..... poopy bears need love too!

So a bear and a rabbit are taking a shit in the woods...

HEY THAT'S MY JOKE
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: mistercharlie on July 13, 2010, 06:16:04 PM
Quote from: kellerb on July 13, 2010, 05:42:32 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on July 13, 2010, 05:10:48 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2010, 02:48:35 PM
uhhhh..... poopy bears need love too!

So a bear and a rabbit are taking a shit in the woods...

HEY THAT'S MY JOKE

No... That's Eddie Murphy's joke.

eddie murphy - delirious (bear & rabbit) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXYAOd8gW2U#)
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: kellerb on July 13, 2010, 06:22:32 PM
dammit, I stole it from gilbert gottfried.

I do tell that joke all the time, often to random strangers
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: gah on July 14, 2010, 12:20:58 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on July 13, 2010, 06:16:04 PM
Quote from: kellerb on July 13, 2010, 05:42:32 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on July 13, 2010, 05:10:48 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2010, 02:48:35 PM
uhhhh..... poopy bears need love too!

So a bear and a rabbit are taking a shit in the woods...

HEY THAT'S MY JOKE

No... That's Eddie Murphy's joke.

eddie murphy - delirious (bear & rabbit) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXYAOd8gW2U#)

Classic!  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :clap:
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: WhatstheUse? on July 14, 2010, 02:07:32 PM
Quote from: kellerb on July 13, 2010, 06:22:32 PM
I do tell that joke all the time, often to random strangers

hahaha!

Pretty sure you told this joke to me and other paugers within 5 minutes of meeting you at Deer Creek last summer :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: VA $l!m on July 14, 2010, 02:17:28 PM
realizin today i shoulda included stash in this poll :-o
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: kellerb on July 14, 2010, 02:50:49 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 14, 2010, 02:07:32 PM
Quote from: kellerb on July 13, 2010, 06:22:32 PM
I do tell that joke all the time, often to random strangers

hahaha!

Pretty sure you told this joke to me and other paugers within 5 minutes of meeting you at Deer Creek last summer :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

Heh, well, I had never met any of you.  And you're certainly all strange
Title: Re: Death by Whale poll
Post by: whatapiper on July 14, 2010, 06:09:02 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on July 11, 2010, 11:48:11 AM
Quote from: Hicks on July 11, 2010, 01:25:22 AM
Split, 2010 versions have been pretty much unlistenable.