Another campus shooting

blatboom · February 14, 2008, 06:48:26 PM

@ Northern Illinois.

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/nui.shooting.campus.2.654370.html

Lots of injuries but it looks like no fatalites which is amazing.

edit: except for the shooter..

details are sketchy everywhere...as they are in these situations. still f'ed up no matter what...

bluecaravan521 · February 14, 2008, 07:09:46 PM

That's messed up...hopefully no further fatalities... :-(

rowjimmy · February 14, 2008, 07:37:12 PM

Last report I got was that the shooter was the only fatality... a couple of people wounded, though.

jedifunk · February 14, 2008, 07:54:02 PM

cnn reports 4 dead... 17 wounded

blatboom · February 14, 2008, 09:55:08 PM

it's up to five now (plus the shooter). dude stepped from behind a screen in a lecture hall and started shooting w/a shotgun. then he killed himself still up on stage. I don't know what's more amazing to me. that something like this can happen or it doesn't happen more often. if someone wanted to do this on any campus it's not that hard to accomplish and there are a lot of sick fcks out there...

susep · February 14, 2008, 10:54:15 PM

Hollywood, Media, Right to bear arms, Industrial-Military Complex...violence in America is unparallel, domestic and abroad.

The images of today's shooting, and I've yet to see any media or footage, are surreal. Tougher and more progressive gun control might help, extensive psychological investigations into weapons applicants.
Its our version of a suicide bomber, totally fucked up.

rowjimmy · February 15, 2008, 09:17:42 AM

Quote from: susep73 on February 14, 2008, 10:54:15 PM
Hollywood, Media, Right to bear arms, Industrial-Military Complex...violence in America is unparallel, domestic and abroad.

Its our version of a suicide bomber, totally fucked up.

It's true.

antelope19 · February 15, 2008, 09:55:52 AM

It's being reported there are now 7 dead and 15 others "injured". :|

jedifunk · February 15, 2008, 12:12:39 PM

Quote from: blatboom on February 14, 2008, 09:55:08 PM
it's up to five now (plus the shooter). dude stepped from behind a screen in a lecture hall and started shooting w/a shotgun. then he killed himself still up on stage. I don't know what's more amazing to me. that something like this can happen or it doesn't happen more often. if someone wanted to do this on any campus it's not that hard to accomplish and there are a lot of sick fcks out there...

doesnt happen more often? it happens several times a year now... thats too much.

sophist · February 15, 2008, 12:53:09 PM

Quote from: susep73 on February 14, 2008, 10:54:15 PM
Hollywood, Media, Right to bear arms, Industrial-Military Complex...violence in America is unparallel, domestic and abroad.

The images of today's shooting, and I've yet to see any media or footage, are surreal. Tougher and more progressive gun control might help, extensive psychological investigations into weapons applicants.
Its our version of a suicide bomber, totally fucked up.

:roll: :roll:

A gun is only "evil" when the user proceeds to use the gun in a negative context. Guns exist in every nation in the world, its all about how the individual chooses to use the tools, not the tools being used.

fauxpaxfauxreal · February 15, 2008, 02:33:52 PM

How disgusting.

Does anyone know if Jephrey had any relatives enrolled?

blatboom · February 15, 2008, 08:32:21 PM

Quote from: jedifunk on February 15, 2008, 12:12:39 PM
Quote from: blatboom on February 14, 2008, 09:55:08 PM
it's up to five now (plus the shooter). dude stepped from behind a screen in a lecture hall and started shooting w/a shotgun. then he killed himself still up on stage. I don't know what's more amazing to me. that something like this can happen or it doesn't happen more often. if someone wanted to do this on any campus it's not that hard to accomplish and there are a lot of sick fcks out there...
doesnt happen more often? it happens several times a year now... thats too much.

of course once is too often. my clumsy point was that there are thousands of college campuses and they're wide open to this sort of thing.

and I totally agree with Sophist about guns. I know lots of people who own guns that would never do something like this. you make guns illegal and the only people left with guns will be criminals with bad intentions. apparantly these murders happened in a "Gun-Free Zone." lot of good that did.

jephrey · February 15, 2008, 09:39:20 PM

No relatives, but many friends used to go there, some coworkers don't miss any of their football games, it's only about 20 minutes from my house, my wife had a class in that same lecture hall... It is pretty crummy. People that do this type of thing are obviously sick. Why take out more than just yourself?

I had the numbed response when I first heard... Actually one of the people killed was from Carpentersville (neighbors my town).

susep · February 16, 2008, 12:21:29 AM

Quote from: Sophist on February 15, 2008, 12:53:09 PM
A gun is only "evil" when the user proceeds to use the gun in a negative context. Guns exist in every nation in the world, its all about how the individual chooses to use the tools, not the tools being used.

wmd

sophist · February 16, 2008, 11:40:53 AM

Quote from: susep73 on February 16, 2008, 12:21:29 AM
Quote from: Sophist on February 15, 2008, 12:53:09 PM
A gun is only "evil" when the user proceeds to use the gun in a negative context. Guns exist in every nation in the world, its all about how the individual chooses to use the tools, not the tools being used.

wmd

Thats not a valid argument. Nuclear energy has been used for good things, it fits my description. It is the people who use the tool, not the tool itself. So controlling the tool doesn't solve the problem, those people can cause damage another way. I can just easily argue that if every kid at that school had a gun, the shooting wouldn't have happened. So the point of gun control is moot, as evil existed long before guns.

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