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Title: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on August 21, 2009, 06:52:12 PM
I know August and Mattstick are runners, so maybe they could help me out here.

I want to get into better shape and start running, but where do I begin?

I don't own running shoes are any 'workout' clothes, so I guess that's my 1st step?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: mbw on August 21, 2009, 06:54:34 PM
GBL 2.0
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: mattstick on August 21, 2009, 07:00:47 PM
Yup, start with shoes and workout gear.  If there is a Running Room store in your area, head over there with your Visa card and do some damage.

Running on a treadmill is a good way to start, you can set your pace and stick to it. 

Start slow and run for 10 minutes.  Do this 3 or 4 times a week, the next week go to 12 minutes.

The next week go to 15 minutes.

Then 20 minutes.

Once you're running 20 minutes on the treadmill start upping the speed/tempo.

By now it will be fall weather and you'll be ready to run outside for 3-4 miles.

Drink lots of water while you run, and listen to heady Phish jams.

I got my one really out of shape buddy running by listening to different versions of Harry Hood, he would start slow in the reggae section, and move the speed up or down depending on the section of the song, when he'd get to "you can feel good about Hood" he would be in full sprint.  This is a pretty epic feeling.

You should also look at what races are in your area and shoot for something at the end of the fall, you could probably run a 10k if you start now... tell everyone you know that you're running the race and set a goal time - for a beginner you should strive (jive/strive) for somewhere between 55 and 60 minutes.

I coach running clinics and have had a lot of success in the past year - so even though you stiffed me in Fantasy Baseball feel free to fire off any questions you have.

Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: GBL on August 21, 2009, 07:05:02 PM
Yup, start with shoes and workout gear.  If there is a Running Room store in your area, head over there with your Visa card and do some damage.

Running on a treadmill is a good way to start, you can set your pace and stick to it. 

Start slow and run for 10 minutes.  Do this 3 or 4 times a week, the next week go to 12 minutes.

The next week go to 15 minutes.

Then 20 minutes.

Once you're running 20 minutes on the treadmill start upping the speed/tempo.

By now it will be fall weather and you'll be ready to run outside for 3-4 miles.

Drink lots of water while you run, and listen to heady Phish jams.

I got my one really out of shape buddy running by listening to different versions of Harry Hood, he would start slow in the reggae section, and move the speed up or down depending on the section of the song, when he'd get to "you can feel good about Hood" he would be in full sprint.  This is a pretty epic feeling.

You should also look at what races are in your area and shoot for something at the end of the fall, you could probably run a 10k if you start now... tell everyone you know that you're running the race and set a goal time - for a beginner you should strive (jive/strive) for somewhere between 55 and 60 minutes.

I coach running clinics and have had a lot of success in the past year - so even though you stiffed me in Fantasy Baseball feel free to fire off any questions you have.

Thanks a lot, I appreciate it and I'll definitely hit you up with any other questions.
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: GBL on August 21, 2009, 07:06:15 PM
There's a running room about a mile from my place, so I'll head over there tomorrow. 

Any recomendations for shoes?  I would like to get into the whole Nike+ tracking shit.
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 21, 2009, 07:09:08 PM
There's a running room about a mile from my place, so I'll head over there tomorrow. 

Any recomendations for shoes?  I would like to get into the whole Nike+ tracking shit.

They'll probably have some kind of fancy machine that hooks up to your feet and then you'll fake run in place and it will spit out all kinds of crazy shoe recommendations...

If Nike's aren't the shoe for you (they fit really oddly and I'd say as many people fit them as don't), I'm sure they'll direct you to tracking products that are compatible with the footware you purchase.

Different runners have different footwear needs...what works for Aug or Mattstick, probably won't work for you (but might).
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: mattstick on August 21, 2009, 07:12:00 PM
When you go to the Running Room, bring a pair of shoes that have a lot of wear, they should be able to tell a lot about your feet from the wear pattern.

If they recommend the ugliest show on the wall, buy 'em.  If you want a hot pair of running shoes to look fly, buy those too but don't wear them when you run.

The Running Room should have accessories for using Nike+ without buying Nikes, a little plastic piece that holds the sensor on the outside of your shoe.  After that you'll need an iPod Nano (or 3GS iPhone) and the Nike+ Kit which has the sensor and dongle piece which attaches to your Nano.

When you're at Running Room, ask an employee about Clinics and Run Club - group runs are a great way to meet people who may inspire you.

Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: shoreline99 on August 21, 2009, 10:10:57 PM
Thanks for the info, guys! +k!
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on August 21, 2009, 10:18:35 PM
Apparently I over pronate a bit so I got a pair of shoes that compensate for that
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: slslbs on August 21, 2009, 11:25:37 PM
Runners World has a good "beginners" section - worth checking out for tips and motivation.

Shoes are obviously the most important equipment, but you will soon want - need other stuff too. Socks, shirts, shorts, etc. Stay away from cotton - get the "hi-tech" fiber stuff (different names depending on who makes it).
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: GBL on August 22, 2009, 12:02:56 AM
Runners World has a good "beginners" section - worth checking out for tips and motivation.

Shoes are obviously the most important equipment, but you will soon want - need other stuff too. Socks, shirts, shorts, etc. Stay away from cotton - get the "hi-tech" fiber stuff (different names depending on who makes it).

Thanks, I will def check that out..
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 22, 2009, 01:53:57 AM
Knowing GBL, I totally thought this thread was going to be a joke. 

Guess not....

Run like the wind, Gavin!  :crazy:
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: blatboom on August 22, 2009, 01:54:40 AM
mid-20s crisis.
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 22, 2009, 01:58:06 AM
mid-20s crisis.

l-o-fucking-l
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: G. Augusto on August 22, 2009, 02:02:29 AM
Once you start running, don't give up.
The first 2-3 weeks are gonna kick your ass.
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: blatboom on August 22, 2009, 02:05:53 AM
can we get some Chariots of Fire playing in this thread?
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 22, 2009, 02:08:52 AM
can we get some Chariots of Fire playing in this thread?

damn that new upgrade.... I had the youtube all queued up to go, but I don't know how to imbed that stuff anymore!

Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: shoreline99 on August 22, 2009, 09:45:38 AM
mid-20s crisis.

no, just trying to keep up with 4 kids on a daily basis... ;)
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: mattstick on August 22, 2009, 09:48:36 AM

Phish really needs to step it up and host the 2nd Runaway Jim 5K @ Festival 8.
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: aphineday on August 22, 2009, 03:01:34 PM
It's cool to see a thread about running on here. I would still call myself a beginner for sure, but I am coming up on a year of running. I started at 330lbs last spring. I am now down to 218lbs, and running somewhere between 20-25 miles a week. I'm still losing weight, and striving to become a better runner every run. Sticking with it is the biggest thing. If you can, you will start to love/hate running. I can't even explain how I felt when I crossed the finish line at the Dam to Dam 20k. I was slow (really slow actually), but I FINISHED IT. No walking, just finished it. You'll know what I mean when you finish a couple of races you never thought you would.

As for the shoes, ABSOLUTELY the most important thing you can buy IMO. From reading this thread, it seems as though Mattstick really knows his stuff, and gave you more professional advice than I could, but I can offer my own experience. I started running with an old pair of New Balances that were pretty beat up. Blisters followed, so I got some new inserts. That helped until the shoes fell apart, and I decided I was going to reward myself for  4 mos of running with shoes. I got on the Under Armour bandwagon, and bought the new shoes that they released without consulting any professionals, just because I was a sucker for the flash. What a dumb move. Blisters every day for six months until I couldn't stand it anymore and I went to a professional who could fit me (Scheels was fine). I bought a pair of Saucony Hurricane 10s. WOW. Turns out I have pretty flat feet, and over pronate a bit. The Under Armours were meant for high arches and no pronation! Running is a completely different experience for me now.

I'm interested to hear how you are progressing! We really should keep a running thread alive in here!



Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: mattstick on August 22, 2009, 03:17:02 PM

Just getting my gear together and heading out the door to run "A Midsummer Nights Run" - 30K!

Shooting for 2:39:00, wish me luck!
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: blatboom on August 22, 2009, 03:38:33 PM
set the gearshift!
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: aphineday on August 22, 2009, 03:43:15 PM

Just getting my gear together and heading out the door to run "A Midsummer Nights Run" - 30K!

Shooting for 2:39:00, wish me luck!
Damn man, IF I could finish a 30k, my time would be closer to 3:00:00 haha! Good luck! Sounds like a cool race.
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: flow00 on August 22, 2009, 04:11:33 PM

Just getting my gear together and heading out the door to run "A Midsummer Nights Run" - 30K!

Shooting for 2:39:00, wish me luck!

Good luck, Matt. That's a hell of a run. I'm going to walk all the way over to my fridge for a beer. Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: blatboom on August 22, 2009, 04:14:04 PM

Just getting my gear together and heading out the door to run "A Midsummer Nights Run" - 30K!

Shooting for 2:39:00, wish me luck!

Good luck, Matt. That's a hell of a run. I'm going to walk all the way over to my fridge for a beer. Wish me luck.

godspeed flow!
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: GBL on August 22, 2009, 05:31:06 PM

Just getting my gear together and heading out the door to run "A Midsummer Nights Run" - 30K!

Shooting for 2:39:00, wish me luck!

Good luck, Matt!
Title: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on August 22, 2009, 07:02:48 PM
Just thought I'd make a thread for all of us runners to post about cool runs or races, ask questions, answer questions, whine, bitch and everything else that goes along with our passion.  :phish:
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: aphineday on August 22, 2009, 07:26:17 PM
I started a thread dedicated to running, thought we could take a stab at that and see if we have any luck keeping it rolling ;)
http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=13335.0
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: mattstick on August 22, 2009, 10:09:39 PM

Yeah, I'm gonna merge the 2 threads and keep your topic.

In other news I set the gearshift for the high gear of my soul Madison 95 style and smoked that 30K - 2:27:30 chip time.

Awesome pic to follow.
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: blatboom on August 22, 2009, 10:15:32 PM
 :clap:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ytowndan on August 22, 2009, 10:22:54 PM
Awesome!  Good job, Matt.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on August 22, 2009, 10:25:55 PM
Killed it!
Good stuff!
a
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 22, 2009, 10:30:53 PM
good job mattstick.  you will destroy the fucking marathon.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on August 22, 2009, 10:34:58 PM
nice
sounds like your ready
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on August 22, 2009, 10:57:10 PM
Yeah! AWESOME time man! Holy crap, that's awesome! :beers:
Thanks for the merge, looks good!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on August 22, 2009, 11:23:40 PM
Thanks guys - love the support.

A couple of stories:

My photographer buddy Jay came down to shoot me crossing the finish, but I didn't see him as I crossed - he walked up to me within a minute of me crossing the finish line and I was a mess - almost broke down in tears just seeing his face - crazy feeling.  I nearly fell down laughing when he told me he had half a joint if I wanted to puff with him.

At the last minute I added the Scarlet>Fire from 8/1/94 (my first  :syf: show) to my race playlist - great call.  Shivers ran through my body when Jerry started singing Scarlet, then with about 1km to go it was time for Fire... "long distance runner", shivers again.

I tried something I'd never done in a race before, walking through the water stations, taking short (30-40 sec) walk breaks - this really helped me avoid hitting the wall hard, around 22 or 23km I hit the wall but it was more a confidence thing than fatigue.

My time put me 35th out of 140 in my age group, 30-39.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 22, 2009, 11:26:05 PM
Good job.  The Hartford '83 Scarlet>Fire was a favorite of mine during my short spell as a runner.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on August 23, 2009, 12:59:43 AM
Thanks guys - love the support.

A couple of stories:

My photographer buddy Jay came down to shoot me crossing the finish, but I didn't see him as I crossed - he walked up to me within a minute of me crossing the finish line and I was a mess - almost broke down in tears just seeing his face - crazy feeling.  I nearly fell down laughing when he told me he had half a joint if I wanted to puff with him.

At the last minute I added the Scarlet>Fire from 8/1/94 (my first  :syf: show) to my race playlist - great call.  Shivers ran through my body when Jerry started singing Scarlet, then with about 1km to go it was time for Fire... "long distance runner", shivers again.

I tried something I'd never done in a race before, walking through the water stations, taking short (30-40 sec) walk breaks - this really helped me avoid hitting the wall hard, around 22 or 23km I hit the wall but it was more a confidence thing than fatigue.

My time put me 35th out of 140 in my age group, 30-39.

Great job, Matt!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: PhishPhan on August 23, 2009, 01:11:47 AM
I'm 26, pretty out of shape. Should I just start as one of the first posts said to?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on August 23, 2009, 01:17:26 AM
I'm 26, pretty out of shape. Should I just start as one of the first posts said to?

Starting is a good start
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on August 23, 2009, 01:18:40 AM

The only rule is, it begins.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on August 23, 2009, 01:19:47 AM

Actually, if you're really out of shape - like can't run for 2 minutes, history of heart conditions, etc - it might not be a bad idea to consult your physician.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: PhishPhan on August 23, 2009, 01:33:43 AM
I'm not out of shape, like unhealthy. I just have not done any extreme workouts this summer. I guess I'll just hit up the gym and see how far I can go.
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: flow00 on August 23, 2009, 01:57:21 AM

Yeah, I'm gonna merge the 2 threads and keep your topic.

In other news I set the gearshift for the high gear of my soul Madison 95 style and smoked that 30K - 2:27:30 chip time.

Awesome pic to follow.

Good job, man. You beat your goal by 12 minutes.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on August 23, 2009, 03:05:21 AM
I'm 26, pretty out of shape. Should I just start as one of the first posts said to?

Yeah, I would say that if you are otherwise healthy dude that your idea of hitting up the gym and just seeing where you go is not a half bad idea. That's pretty much how I started.

Mattstick, that story about puffing is pretty hilarious. I totally know the feeling. As I finished my first 20K, at the last mile marker, they had the symphony playing and were handing out champagne toasts instead of water. I stupidly grabbed one of these. I crossed the line and saw all these guys standing around drinking beer and stuff; all I could think was how horribly I needed to used the facilities. I felt so sick, that champagne tore me up pretty well.

Post that pic when you get a chance, would be awesome to see. I'm off to grab a puff myself.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on August 23, 2009, 01:41:25 PM
I'm 26, pretty out of shape. Should I just start as one of the first posts said to?

go aout and alternate running (slowly) and walking. Eventually, shorten up the walks and string the runs together.

it doesn't matter how fast or slow you are, as long as your out there.
Title: Re: Questions about running
Post by: shoreline99 on August 23, 2009, 02:03:17 PM

Just getting my gear together and heading out the door to run "A Midsummer Nights Run" - 30K!

Shooting for 2:39:00, wish me luck!

Good luck, Matt. That's a hell of a run. I'm going to walk all the way over to my fridge for a beer. Wish me luck.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on August 23, 2009, 02:15:45 PM
I'm 26, pretty out of shape. Should I just start as one of the first posts said to?

go aout and alternate running (slowly) and walking. Eventually, shorten up the walks and string the runs together.

it doesn't matter how fast or slow you are, as long as your out there.

Here's what I used when I started, and the site is pretty rad. Has helpful tips, etc... This is a pretty easy plan to follow, and if you can keep your self motivated, it produces results!
http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: PhishPhan on August 23, 2009, 07:38:12 PM
Anyone thought of a Week4Paug Running Challenge? Like we should try to reach for x amount of miles by November or something. I have no idea if it could work or if people would want to participate but there seems to be a decent amount of runners here.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on August 24, 2009, 02:49:29 AM
Anyone thought of a Week4Paug Running Challenge? Like we should try to reach for x amount of miles by November or something. I have no idea if it could work or if people would want to participate but there seems to be a decent amount of runners here.

That could be interesting... I'd be down to give it a shot for sure.

I listened to Set1 @ Bridgeview 8/11/09 during my 3miler today. Pushing through Windy City towards the end of the run was rough... The Curtain With brought me into a strong finish though.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on August 24, 2009, 07:42:39 PM
Nike+, d00ds...
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: birdman on August 24, 2009, 07:58:56 PM
Nike+, d00ds...
Picked that shit up for my daughter today.
She can compete in the challenge for me.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on August 24, 2009, 08:00:24 PM
Nike+, d00ds...
Picked that shit up for my daughter today.
She can compete in the challenge for me.

Nice!
She's gonna *LUV* it.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on August 24, 2009, 09:25:42 PM
His daughter is a ringer.

I wouldn't bet against her.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on August 25, 2009, 02:30:42 AM
it's fun to know that a lot of us run...

i'm shooting for the Turkey Trot here in Chicago with some gals i work with, on thanksgiving day... 8K... (5 miles, nothing HUGE)
so much going on between now and then, but i'm gonna do it :)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on August 25, 2009, 08:31:06 AM

Here's me makin' 30K look easy - around the 21km mark

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on August 25, 2009, 09:06:55 AM

Here's me makin' 30K look easy - around the 21km mark

Beautiful, man! Looks like fun times.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on August 28, 2009, 12:10:43 PM
it's been a fairly rewarding summer
2nd for age on 7/4

My wife was #1 woman walker in the Jerry ?Garcia memorial race end of July.
I filled out a raffle and won a free pair of running shoes (I never win anything)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on August 30, 2009, 12:10:03 PM
So, I'm going shoe shopping this week, should I get 2 pairs?  One for my more serious runs and a pair of cross trainers, for general workout?

My plan is to start going to the gym Mon, Wed, Fri and do about 10-12 minutes of running followed by some moderate upper body strengthening (i.e. sit ups, push ups, and pull ups).

And as Matt suggested earlier in this thread, the week after ill bump it up a lil bit, then a lil bit more, etc.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on August 30, 2009, 12:47:53 PM
Is your new girlfriend making you do all of this?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 30, 2009, 12:48:40 PM
Is your new girlfriend making you do all of this?
:lol:

mid-20s crisis.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on August 30, 2009, 01:44:39 PM
Girlfriends, lol..
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on August 31, 2009, 09:28:50 PM
i dont run much, my left knee gets pretty sore if i push it.  it hurts sometimes when i hike a lot but in that case i just dont let it bother me because its easier to adjust my stride or steps when hiking than when running. 

but, today we were riding our bikes on our local railtrail (converted railroad to trail) and my fiancee was telling me how people who do triathlons say that the hardest part is the transition from biking to running, and that it feels really crazy in your legs.  so about 12 miles into a 15 mile ride, we put our bikes down and ran for a mile. 

holy crap is it hard!  im sure there are some techniques or tips to make it a little easier, like using a lower gear leading up to the transition or something, but next time youre looking for a challenge and have a bike around, get on it for a few miles before you take off running, its pretty wild.  after about a half mile things start to feel normal again, but that first half is like trying to lift a ton of bricks w/ your thighs. 

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on August 31, 2009, 09:32:40 PM
I'm a Brooks man myself.  Needed to upgrade the GTS 9s but the 10s don't come out until January.  So I went with Defyance 2.  Great for longer runs, b/c they have the most cushioning of any Brooks I've seen so far.

Asics aren't bad, either, but Brooks is where it's at. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on August 31, 2009, 10:55:10 PM
use to run in Nikes, now Saucony's. Whatever fits / feels best, and that would be different for everyone.


So, I'm going shoe shopping this week, should I get 2 pairs?  One for my more serious runs and a pair of cross trainers, for general workout?

My plan is to start going to the gym Mon, Wed, Fri and do about 10-12 minutes of running followed by some moderate upper body strengthening (i.e. sit ups, push ups, and pull ups).

And as Matt suggested earlier in this thread, the week after ill bump it up a lil bit, then a lil bit more, etc.

I would get 1 pair for now
keep a log, shoes are good for about 400 - 500 miles (for running)
when you get your next pair, you can use the "old" pair when you do the strenghthening.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on September 01, 2009, 12:43:36 AM
I would get 1 pair for now
keep a log, shoes are good for about 400 - 500 miles (for running)
when you get your next pair, you can use the "old" pair when you do the strenghthening.

Thanks
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on September 02, 2009, 03:05:02 AM
Did 3 miles yesterday, and listened to the studio album of Joy. Didn't make it through the whole thing on the run obviously, but KDF totally gave me a kick in the ass to keep going. Enjoyed this record while running.

Did a 4 miler today and listened (half heartedly) to a new advance of a record my buddy has been talking up. The band is called Brand New, and it was hell. I tried and tried, then about mile 2 I realized that I couldn't do it and had to switch. Went with Brian Wilson's Lucky Old Sun record from last year. That man is amazing. Total awesome run record.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 09:46:16 AM
brand new?
sheesh, i'd not trust that friend for music anymore ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on September 02, 2009, 01:29:05 PM
brand new?
sheesh, i'd not trust that friend for music anymore ;)

Yeah. We've grown up together, but we are so far apart musically. He listens to what I would call complete crap. Nickelback, Shinedown, Brand New... I drug him to the Chicago Phish show and I think he was pretty bored even though he tried to get into it ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on September 02, 2009, 01:30:24 PM
brand new?
sheesh, i'd not trust that friend for music anymore ;)

Yeah. We've grown up together, but we are so far apart musically. He listens to what I would call complete crap. Nickelback, Shinedown, Brand New... I drug him to the Chicago Phish show and I think he was pretty bored even though he tried to get into it ;)

Nickleback?

Shinedown?

ouch.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 01:32:40 PM
brand new?
sheesh, i'd not trust that friend for music anymore ;)

Yeah. We've grown up together, but we are so far apart musically. He listens to what I would call complete crap. Nickelback, Shinedown, Brand New... I drug him to the Chicago Phish show and I think he was pretty bored even though he tried to get into it ;)

Nickleback?

Shinedown?

ouch.

yes, ouch...

too bad you didnt' drag him to Pearl Jam the next week.. mayeb you two could have found common ground ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on September 02, 2009, 01:53:07 PM
brand new?
sheesh, i'd not trust that friend for music anymore ;)

Yeah. We've grown up together, but we are so far apart musically. He listens to what I would call complete crap. Nickelback, Shinedown, Brand New... I drug him to the Chicago Phish show and I think he was pretty bored even though he tried to get into it ;)

Nickleback?

Shinedown?

ouch.

yes, ouch...

too bad you didnt' drag him to Pearl Jam the next week.. mayeb you two could have found common ground ;)

You know I never really thought about it, but I bet you are right. I know he likes Pearl Jam, and so do I (at least a lot more than any of the other bands he listens to).
And yes, very ouch on his musical selections. He actually called me when his GF refused to go see Shinedown with him, and although he made it through Phish for me, I just couldn't do it. I feel like a bad friend, but that music is just ridiculous to a new level.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 01:54:37 PM
brand new?
sheesh, i'd not trust that friend for music anymore ;)

Yeah. We've grown up together, but we are so far apart musically. He listens to what I would call complete crap. Nickelback, Shinedown, Brand New... I drug him to the Chicago Phish show and I think he was pretty bored even though he tried to get into it ;)

Nickleback?

Shinedown?

ouch.

yes, ouch...

too bad you didnt' drag him to Pearl Jam the next week.. mayeb you two could have found common ground ;)

You know I never really thought about it, but I bet you are right. I know he likes Pearl Jam, and so do I (at least a lot more than any of the other bands he listens to).
And yes, very ouch on his musical selections. He actually called me when his GF refused to go see Shinedown with him, and although he made it through Phish for me, I just couldn't do it. I feel like a bad friend, but that music is just ridiculous to a new level.

friendships are very important, but there are somethings you just can't sit through/do even tho you love them dearly.... i can imagine shinedown (whatever the fuck they are) is one of them.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on September 02, 2009, 01:56:30 PM
shinedown (whatever the fuck they are)

my thoughts exactly.  but, after being introduced to the milkshake song earlier today, ive reached my "new music you know you wont like" threshold for the day.  shew. 

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 01:59:19 PM
shinedown (whatever the fuck they are)

my thoughts exactly.  but, after being introduced to the milkshake song earlier today, ive reached my "new music you know you wont like" threshold for the day.  shew.

that milkshake talk was priceless... i was in tears laughing on the bus...
you should have known not to ask ;)

damn right, it's better than yours :P
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on September 02, 2009, 02:00:03 PM
shinedown (whatever the fuck they are)

my thoughts exactly.  but, after being introduced to the milkshake song earlier today, ive reached my "new music you know you wont like" threshold for the day.  shew.

HAH! I totally agree with you. Shinedown is just another Nickelback clone of the month. Don't waste your time, trust me ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on September 02, 2009, 02:32:34 PM
rats, now i gotta find out who nickleback is?

(at least thats a name ive heard before, even if i cant place a song)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 02:36:51 PM
rats, now i gotta find out who nickleback is?

(at least thats a name ive heard before, even if i cant place a song)

don't.
again.... you'll be sorry.
think shitty song in the spiderman movie. it's the lead singer from NB... its' like that, maybe worse... if that's possible.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: kellerb on September 02, 2009, 03:35:06 PM
rats, now i gotta find out who nickleback is?

(at least thats a name ive heard before, even if i cant place a song)

Trust me, nickelback's milkshake does not bring the boys to the yard
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 02, 2009, 03:37:21 PM

<insert youtube clip of Nickelback being pelted by rocks here>
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on September 02, 2009, 03:47:52 PM

<insert youtube clip of Nickelback being pelted by rocks here>

Most definitely. On a side note, it's actually pretty refreshing to find someone who doesn't even know who they are.  :banana:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on September 02, 2009, 03:59:40 PM
Back on topic--Saucony Jazz shoes have kept my feet healthy for 20 years, thousands of miles, and three marathons. (Not the same pair, mind you....)

But since the kid was born I'm so out of shape it's going to be like starting from scratch again.

Sorry to be so late to the party--my machine crashed, so here I am at a public library.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on September 02, 2009, 04:22:18 PM
Back on topic--Saucony Jazz shoes have kept my feet healthy for 20 years, thousands of miles, and three marathons. (Not the same pair, mind you....)

But since the kid was born I'm so out of shape it's going to be like starting from scratch again.

Sorry to be so late to the party--my machine crashed, so here I am at a public library.

Yeah, the jury is still out on these Saucony Hurricanes that I just bought in terms of overall durability/longevity, but in terms of comfort, blisters, etc., probably the best shoes I've owned thus far. I can't see myself switching any time soon unless durability/longevity becomes a huge issue.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on September 03, 2009, 06:05:17 PM
Farltek sucks. Just thought I'd share.  :frustrated:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on September 04, 2009, 01:43:51 AM
I would rather listen to the milkshake song all day long than be forced to listen to nickleback.

In other, more topic related news, I started running this past week.....

Is there a trick to make myself not give up and feel like I am going to die if I run 10 feet further?

Also, is it "better" (whatever that means) to be running at a slower pace, for a longer distance & time, rather than running faster for a shorter distance and time?

fwiw, I'm not trying to run a marathon or anything, just get in better shape and sustain a healthy lifestyle  :-)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on September 04, 2009, 05:23:20 AM
I would rather listen to the milkshake song all day long than be forced to listen to nickleback.

In other, more topic related news, I started running this past week.....

Is there a trick to make myself not give up and feel like I am going to die if I run 10 feet further?

Also, is it "better" (whatever that means) to be running at a slower pace, for a longer distance & time, rather than running faster for a shorter distance and time?

fwiw, I'm not trying to run a marathon or anything, just get in better shape and sustain a healthy lifestyle  :-)

I'll defer to mattstick and some of the guys who have been running longer than I have (I'm just over a year) for the most part, but I might add that this "Couch to 5k plan" from Coolrunning.com is how I started, and it's a very solid beginners guide. Following it will really put you in the best shape to run, and through the correct steps of getting there as injury free as possible.

I now kind of have 3 different runs I do. 1 is a pace run (usually 3-4 miles) and I run it pretty solidly. 2 is my long run (I jog pretty much... but go further (usually 4-7 miles). And 3 (and I would  not suggest you even think abou this for quite some time) is "farltek", or speedplay which is running in intervals essentially; ie. I jog 2 minutes to warm up, then run really hard for a minute, then back down to a jog for two, run 1, jog 2, etc.. for 35-40 minutes. This schedule is really what I've read works best to increase your endurance of running. So all in all, I guess it's really up to you, but I definitely vote for slower pace longer, and maybe trying that couch to 5k plan that worked for me.

As for the trick... I wouldn't assume that's really what some of us call "hitting the wall", I would rather assume that your body just really isn't used to the stress of running. Any recommendation here is tough because there are essentially two correct answers. The best answer is LISTEN TO YOUR BODY, it knows its limits! That being said, there is a certain "mental block" you have to push through with running. You'll learn as you continue that you most likely aren't going to die if you run 10 feet further, and one day you'll just try running it to see what happens maybe (thats what I did). Just keep an eye on your self, and don't try to push it too far too quick, and you'll hopefully be setting your self up for some awesome healthy changes. I'm literally a different person since I started running.

Hope that helped a bit from a guy that's definitely been where you are (and probably way further.. when I started running last year I was 330. I could barely walk. I'm 215 now ;).
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on September 04, 2009, 05:24:55 AM
Oh yeah and fuck Nickelback.... sorry that wasn't blatantly stated by me earlier enough! ;)  :samurai:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 06, 2009, 02:02:54 PM

Finished my final distance run before the marathon - 37K!

Only took 3:30 total time too, with lots of stops at gas stations and water breaks.

Next up, 42.2.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on September 06, 2009, 08:04:34 PM

Finished my final distance run before the marathon - 37K!

Only took 3:30 total time too, with lots of stops at gas stations and water breaks.

Next up, 42.2.
Oh man... you are an animal! I'm prepping for a 1/2 and think I'm going to die!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 06, 2009, 08:05:53 PM

I ran a Half for the first time in May, keep your training going after and you'll be marathoning in no time.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on September 07, 2009, 01:19:02 PM

Finished my final distance run before the marathon - 37K!

Only took 3:30 total time too, with lots of stops at gas stations and water breaks.

Next up, 42.2.

good luck
relax and enjoy your taper!!


I would rather listen to the milkshake song all day long than be forced to listen to nickleback.

In other, more topic related news, I started running this past week.....

Is there a trick to make myself not give up and feel like I am going to die if I run 10 feet further?

Also, is it "better" (whatever that means) to be running at a slower pace, for a longer distance & time, rather than running faster for a shorter distance and time?

fwiw, I'm not trying to run a marathon or anything, just get in better shape and sustain a healthy lifestyle  :-)

start slow. don't worry about how fast you're going.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 07, 2009, 08:18:57 PM

Some pics from the Midsummer Nights Run 30K

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on September 08, 2009, 08:32:08 PM




Also, is it "better" (whatever that means) to be running at a slower pace, for a longer distance & time, rather than running faster for a shorter distance and time?

fwiw, I'm not trying to run a marathon or anything, just get in better shape and sustain a healthy lifestyle  :-)

If you're not training, and want to get into better shape, you can mix in speedwork and intervals with long runs.  If you are training for a marathon (or even a 1/2), you could go the LSD route.  That's basically almost all of my runs.  I don't do any fartleks, speedwork or anything like that.  Some cross training here and there.  LSD has its critics, though, so it just depends on what you like. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on September 08, 2009, 08:49:56 PM
like wtu? needs any encouragement to do lsd, jeez.   :roll: ;D

(yes, i know, long slow distance)

 :wtu:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on September 09, 2009, 10:24:09 AM
If you want to become a runner, do lots of LSD kids!

 :wink:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on September 09, 2009, 02:34:28 PM




Also, is it "better" (whatever that means) to be running at a slower pace, for a longer distance & time, rather than running faster for a shorter distance and time?

fwiw, I'm not trying to run a marathon or anything, just get in better shape and sustain a healthy lifestyle  :-)

If you're not training, and want to get into better shape, you can mix in speedwork and intervals with long runs.  If you are training for a marathon (or even a 1/2), you could go the LSD route.  That's basically almost all of my runs.  I don't do any fartleks, speedwork or anything like that.  Some cross training here and there.  LSD has its critics, though, so it just depends on what you like.

^^^This is all accurate, but I'd go simpler: think time, not distance. Run whatever pace you need to in order to keep it up for a half hour.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on September 09, 2009, 04:00:07 PM
Thanks for the advice ya'll.

I'm going to try the Acid method first.  How hard can it be to run through beautiful fields of melting colors, and glorious tangible epiphanies?

Now that sounds like my type of exercise.
 :wtu:

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 09, 2009, 04:19:18 PM

I was tripping during the Runaway Jim 5K @ IT.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on September 09, 2009, 04:27:17 PM
I was tripping during the Runaway Jim 5K @ IT.

Impressive, how did that work out for you?

I truly don't think I could ever do that!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on September 09, 2009, 04:33:35 PM
I was tripping during the Runaway Jim 5K @ IT.

Impressive, how did that work out for you?

I truly don't think I could ever do that!

It's only about a 15-25 minute run.  It's probably a lot easier than it sounds.  The only thing that was probably difficult is that it was hot and you probably get dehydrated quite easily on LSD.  The dehydration would probably lead to leg cramping if you didn't drink enough.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 09, 2009, 06:00:04 PM
Ever ride the coasters on LSD? Adrenaline kicks in and overrides most other drugs. The last 2km was super trippy and really slow.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on September 09, 2009, 06:18:24 PM
Adrenaline is quite the kick ass drug, to be sure.

Gearing up for my first full - the Indy Monumental the first Saturday in November.  I love fall/winter running outside.  Fall, especially, with the leaves and whatnot.  Crank up some fresh Phish and it really is a high like no other. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on September 09, 2009, 07:09:45 PM
Adrenaline is quite the kick ass drug, to be sure.

Gearing up for my first full - the Indy Monumental the first Saturday in November.  I love fall/winter running outside.  Fall, especially, with the leaves and whatnot.  Crank up some fresh Phish and it really is a high like no other.

Hell yes. Summer is rearing it's ugly ass head around here still ;) Soon, however it will be time for lush leaves, chilly temps, and all around beautifulness. I too love fall/winter running, but the seasons are nice. I don't do too well in the heat of the summer, so most of my summer runs are either early or late.

I'm not sure how I'd do running while tripping, but I'd damn sure give it a shot if Phish can pull together another 5K!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on September 10, 2009, 10:52:21 PM
One caveat about LSD, though:

"Long slow distance makes long slow runners."

So if distance is your thing, trip your balls off!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 14, 2009, 09:27:25 AM
13 days.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on September 15, 2009, 06:13:07 PM
13 days.

Good luck! Is this your first marathon?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 15, 2009, 10:16:36 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on September 15, 2009, 11:58:26 PM
Well, congrats..

I hope you do well!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on September 25, 2009, 11:44:25 PM
Good luck Matt, and have fun.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 26, 2009, 07:04:46 AM

zOMG it's tomorrow.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on September 26, 2009, 10:56:49 AM
looks like you might get a little wet tomorrow bud, good luck!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 26, 2009, 11:30:03 AM
Good luck Matt, and have fun.

rock it. :)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on September 26, 2009, 02:30:08 PM
Ran the Cow Harbor 10K today.
All hills and plenty fun.
50:51 @ 8:12.
Smashed it!

Good luck tomorrow, Matt!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on September 26, 2009, 09:21:59 PM
looks like we can follow matt's progress @

http://www.sportstats.ca/
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 26, 2009, 09:35:08 PM

My results will definitely be up there, not sure how "real time" the split times are though.

Look for me to run pretty constant 5 min/km for most of the race, first couple km I will get a minute or two ahead of schedule so I can finish under 3 hours 30.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on September 26, 2009, 09:40:51 PM
what's your number?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on September 26, 2009, 09:42:02 PM
Ran the Cow Harbor 10K today.
All hills and plenty fun.
50:51 @ 8:12.
Smashed it!

Good luck tomorrow, Matt!
nice
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ytowndan on September 26, 2009, 10:04:17 PM
Good luck, Matt!

And, congrats to Aug!

 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on September 27, 2009, 10:32:20 AM
we're 3:07 into the thing and matt's aiming for 3:30ish, so he should be coming in soon.  theres a live feed on http://www.torontowaterfrontmarathon.com/en/live.htm
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on September 27, 2009, 11:10:29 AM
Way to go Mattstick!

3:37:59   
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on September 27, 2009, 11:56:12 AM
 :beers: :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 27, 2009, 01:26:03 PM
Unless Time Turned Elastic I don't think that was my finishing time. I fell apart around 26 and was a total mess in the last 5.

Definitely a learning experience and the hardest thing I've done in my life.

I want to thank everyone here for your support and intrest - when things got tough I thought of you guys!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on September 27, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Holly and I were watching the video stream, waiting for the announcer to say your name.  We watched until it popped up your time on the results page, he didnt ever say your name.  But their feed was bad, it kept cutting out and the guy kept checking his mic.  It broke to a commercial at one point, and also kept showing the huge crowd of 5k'ers.  We were hoping he'd say your name as you crossed.  There were a lot of dudes who looked like you, but the video quality was very poor so you could barely make out any facial features, just dudes w/ the belts w/ water bottles that you wear and ipods on their arms.  We just kept going "is that him?  no, is that him?"  haha. 

But we were cheering for you buddy, from our couch... on our fat asses, eating breakfast.  You were at least 20 miles into your morning when I got out of bed... 

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mbw on September 27, 2009, 04:46:47 PM
congrats mattstick!  quite an accomplishment.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on September 27, 2009, 05:18:41 PM
congrats mattstick!  quite an accomplishment.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on September 27, 2009, 07:51:53 PM
Congrats, Matt!
You've won because you started... :wink:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on September 28, 2009, 10:57:10 AM
^^^Well said, aug.

Congratulations to both of you.  :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 30, 2009, 08:32:19 AM

This is what you look like after 42.2 km
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on September 30, 2009, 09:40:41 AM

This is what you look like after 42.2 km

Congrats Mattstick. That's huge man.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Mr Minor on September 30, 2009, 09:44:36 AM

This is what you look like after 42.2 km

Congrats, dude.  That's huge. 


I am going to start running a few days a week to get in shape for basketball season.  Gotta get those girls in shape before the season starts, too.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 30, 2009, 09:57:07 AM

As I was finishing there was literally a guy crawling across the finish line - so in my finishing picture I will probably be triumphantly crossing, arms in the air smiling, while the guy next to me is crawling.   :-D

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: rowjimmy on September 30, 2009, 10:03:27 AM

As I was finishing there was literally a guy crawling across the finish line - so in my finishing picture I will probably be triumphantly crossing, arms in the air smiling, while the guy next to me is crawling.   :-D

That's a photo that I want to see.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: VDB on September 30, 2009, 10:51:10 AM

As I was finishing there was literally a guy crawling across the finish line - so in my finishing picture I will probably be triumphantly crossing, arms in the air smiling, while the guy next to me is crawling.   :-D

You smug bastard.  :wink:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 01, 2009, 06:13:50 PM
Hahahahaha

Poor guy!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on October 01, 2009, 06:17:44 PM
LOL!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: blatboom on October 01, 2009, 06:28:51 PM
LOL!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on October 01, 2009, 06:33:39 PM
oh man, thats awesome.  avatar worthy. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 01, 2009, 09:54:33 PM

Here are more pics, without the watermarks.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on October 01, 2009, 10:07:42 PM
so at what point did dude hit the ground and start crawling?  was he there when you rounded the last corner?  did he drop in front of you?  was he crawling for 3 meters or 30 meters? 

he did better than i could do, so no offense to the man, i just want to know what you were seeing as you made the final 100 meters. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on October 01, 2009, 10:43:06 PM
He finished, so props to him..

Anyone ever remember seeing that video footage of the guy who did the Iron man competition, where his body totally broke down at the finish line?
He started shaking and fell over over about 20 feet from the finish line, he couldn't even walk.  When I 1st saw that video I thought he was having a stroke!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 02, 2009, 11:59:55 AM
so at what point did dude hit the ground and start crawling?  was he there when you rounded the last corner?  did he drop in front of you?  was he crawling for 3 meters or 30 meters? 

he did better than i could do, so no offense to the man, i just want to know what you were seeing as you made the final 100 meters.

I don't remember much (running on adreneline) but I do remember seeing him on the ground for a while, I'd guess he collapsed 5 - 10m from the end?

Imagine how he felt when he saw his finishing picture and I'm all up in it smiling with my arms in the air!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on October 02, 2009, 12:29:46 PM
^^^Yeah, you prick!


 :-P
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: kellerb on October 02, 2009, 01:14:59 PM

Imagine how he felt when he saw his finishing picture and I'm all up in it smiling with my arms in the air!

<other guy>
DAMN YOU FAVREEEEEE!!! <mentally shakes fist in air>
</other guy>
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: birdman on October 02, 2009, 05:27:16 PM
Hilarious!
Good work Matt.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 03, 2009, 11:55:09 AM
well, the dude finished
to quote an ex Pres - I feel his pain


I remember the first marathon I ran, I passed a guy at about mile 21 or so.
He had big letters on the back of his shirt

DNR

best shirt I saw all day

(Do Not Resuscitate)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on October 03, 2009, 02:20:48 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on October 07, 2009, 07:10:13 PM
^^
One of the best I've seen said "3 months ago this seemed like a good idea."  But that DNR one is better!

Running a 10K this Saturday as a tuneup for my first full in 32 days in Indy. 

Check this story out:

http://deadspin.com/5376671/jerry-johncock-jury+rigs-johnson-while-jogging

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 07, 2009, 09:32:04 PM
Quote
This raises many troubling questions. One, who carries a spare catheter in their car? Two, who uses a catheter that he borrowed from a complete stranger on the street? Three, how much of a lazy ass do you feel like knowing that an 81-year-old man stopped for an invasive urinary tract procedure in the middle of a marathon and still finished in under four hours
:-D

good luck on your first full
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on October 08, 2009, 12:44:53 PM
Today I'm purchasing my big fall item... the Garmin Forerunner 405CX... I'm so stoked. Will post a review a bit later for any interested.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on October 09, 2009, 08:40:20 AM
Quote
This raises many troubling questions. One, who carries a spare catheter in their car? Two, who uses a catheter that he borrowed from a complete stranger on the street? Three, how much of a lazy ass do you feel like knowing that an 81-year-old man stopped for an invasive urinary tract procedure in the middle of a marathon and still finished in under four hours
:-D

good luck on your first full

Thank you!  Last year I did the half (it's the Monumental in Indy on 11/7) and it was surprisingly mild.  I'm curious to see what the weather will be...in Indiana in November we could get anything. 

Another running item from Deadspin.  Two in one week?  Holy hell!

http://deadspin.com/5377608/fascists-sponsoring-marathons-now-apparently
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 09, 2009, 08:47:37 AM

I listened to my iPod and took water from outside the water stations!

Do you have a goal time ghost_2000?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 09, 2009, 10:29:43 AM
I heard once that in NY people in the crowd were handing out "water" that was really vodka.

I always stick to official - there's usually plenty, and it's predictable.

DQ someone for that, or an ipod, is a bit harsh
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 09, 2009, 10:34:20 AM

I always have bottles with gels or gatorade, during the marathon I did a switch with my Dad.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on October 09, 2009, 12:45:25 PM

I listened to my iPod and took water from outside the water stations!

Do you have a goal time ghost_2000?

Ya, I've run in races where technically you're not supposed to use mP3 players, but it's rarely enforced. 

Ideally I'd like anything under 3:30, but realistically I'll take 3:30-3:40. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 09, 2009, 12:50:26 PM

Nice - good luck!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on October 09, 2009, 01:02:06 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on October 15, 2009, 07:54:55 PM
Anywho, since I started the thread I might as well chime in with my progress.  I joined Snap fitness about three weeks ago basically for three reasons: They have a location 1.2 miles from my house, I need a place to workout/run in the winter because it get's cold here in Minneapolis, and finally they have unlimited tanning for only $9 a month  :wink:...

So I started out running, or jogging, whatever, 1.2 miles for the first week (going Monday, Wed, Friday). 1.5 for the second and now this week I have been running 1.8 fairly easily.  And by easily I mean its easier then the 1.2 when I first started.

Over the last couple of weeks I've been throwing in some other upper body workouts as well, cuz' I need to get my fat ass in shape..

I guess I'm just kinda wondering, my goal was to run the turkey trot 5k on thanksgiving but im wondering if my current pace will give me enough stretch time.  Im running at about a 9-10 min pace as well..


Got a cheap(er) pair of reeboks as well
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Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on October 15, 2009, 07:58:29 PM
You can DEF run the race.
Another mile in just over a month is easily reachable.
Congrats on the tanning!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on October 15, 2009, 08:01:22 PM
You can DEF run the race.
Another mile in just over a month is easily reachable.
Congrats on the tanning!

haha

thanks! you were right though, these past 3 weeks have been tough, but i feel my body getting more adjusted, so im happy about that.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on October 15, 2009, 08:04:28 PM
You can DEF run the race.
Another mile in just over a month is easily reachable.
Congrats on the tanning!

haha

thanks! you were right though, these past 3 weeks have been tough, but i feel my body getting more adjusted, so im happy about that.

Just remember...don't stop running.
Now is a great time to keep that mantra in the back of your head.
I'm for serious, too!
If you want to run 2 miles one day...take your time and don't stop running until you hit it.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 16, 2009, 12:12:49 AM
You can DEF run the race.
Another mile in just over a month is easily reachable.
Congrats on the tanning!

haha

thanks! you were right though, these past 3 weeks have been tough, but i feel my body getting more adjusted, so im happy about that.

Just remember...don't stop running.
Now is a great time to keep that mantra in the back of your head.
I'm for serious, too!
If you want to run 2 miles one day...take your time and don't stop running until you hit it.

Truer words have probably been spoken, but I want to believe they haven't been.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 16, 2009, 10:44:04 AM

Toronto Zoo 10K tomorrow morning.

My PB for 10K is 41:55 - I'm gonna go out and try and beat that but it'll be tough.

This was the first race I decided to try and run last year, and it really got me inspired to go further/faster.

My time last year was 55 min, crazy that I'm trying to beat that by 15 minutes only 1 year later.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on October 16, 2009, 12:17:23 PM

Toronto Zoo 10K tomorrow morning.

My PB for 10K is 41:55 - I'm gonna go out and try and beat that but it'll be tough.

This was the first race I decided to try and run last year, and it really got me inspired to go further/faster.

My time last year was 55 min, crazy that I'm trying to beat that by 15 minutes only 1 year later.
Good luck! That's a pretty lofty goal, but at least it's a good motivator!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on October 16, 2009, 12:19:34 PM
Ugh.  Right leg = shin splint, partially missing toenail I had to pull off a month ago, my big toe is starting to turn black and blue, and I've got 2 blisters on my outer 2 toes.

It's always something.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 16, 2009, 12:59:23 PM

Pain is temporary, Finishing is forever.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on October 16, 2009, 01:52:42 PM
I dunno, man...you should have told that to my IT Band 6 months ago.

 :wink:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 16, 2009, 02:04:34 PM
small run, 5K for me tomorrow.... 8K on turkey day, too...

keep it up, GBL! :)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on October 16, 2009, 03:17:43 PM
small run, 5K for me tomorrow.... 8K on turkey day, too...

keep it up, GBL! :)

Nice! 5Ks are fun, and there's nothing like a good run on turkey day! I'm still looking for my turkey day race!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on October 16, 2009, 04:48:24 PM
small run, 5K for me tomorrow.... 8K on turkey day, too...

keep it up, GBL! :)

Ditto!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on October 16, 2009, 05:11:00 PM
So I was thinking for any of us runners/joggers/etc.. heading to 8, we should try and coordinate some runs while there. A good run before the day's festivities would be awesome. I know I'll definitely be up for at least 2 or 3 miles each morning just to keep my head right. Anyone who might be interested?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 17, 2009, 12:55:35 PM

Rocked the Zoo 10k this morning, 45:13 - off my PB but this is a tough road course with hills and turns... felt good, could have pushed it a little bit harder but post-marathon, this was a pretty good result.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 17, 2009, 01:13:09 PM
nice
best you didn't push it so close to the marathon

doing a 5K early November.
we have a great local 5K / 5M (8K) in our town Thanksgiving, but unfortunately I gotta work, so no racing for me that day
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on October 17, 2009, 01:22:03 PM

Rocked the Zoo 10k this morning, 45:13 - off my PB but this is a tough road course with hills and turns... felt good, could have pushed it a little bit harder but post-marathon, this was a pretty good result.

Good work man! Best to not push it too hard post marathon. That's where people get hurt.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 19, 2009, 04:22:13 PM
small run, 5K for me tomorrow.... 8K on turkey day, too...

keep it up, GBL! :)

finished it better than i expected.
been smoke free, completely, for a little over two months. still hacked up half my lung when it was over.

great run tho! fun times...

next up: turkey day.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on October 19, 2009, 04:23:26 PM
Nice work!
How often are you running during the week?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 19, 2009, 04:24:30 PM

Pain is temporary, Finishing is forever.

Did you see that three people died during the Detroit marathon?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 19, 2009, 04:26:01 PM
Nice work!
How often are you running during the week?

thanks!
3-4 times/week... but it's all inside.
now that i have this route mapped out across from my place i'm gonna get outside more...
big difference from tredmill -> outside.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ytowndan on October 19, 2009, 04:26:12 PM
Congrats, Mandi! 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 19, 2009, 04:26:56 PM
Congrats, Mandi!

thanks dan!  :-)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 19, 2009, 04:28:08 PM
Oops, my bad, CONGRATS MANDI!!!  You'll be rocking 100 kilometers through the badlands in no time!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on October 19, 2009, 04:28:34 PM

Pain is temporary, Finishing is forever.

Did you see that three people died during the Detroit marathon?

So....not finishing is also forever?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 19, 2009, 04:30:55 PM
Oops, my bad, CONGRATS MANDI!!!  You'll be rocking 100 kilometers through the badlands in no time!

thanks!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on October 19, 2009, 04:31:00 PM
Nice work!
How often are you running during the week?

thanks!
3-4 times/week... but it's all inside.
now that i have this route mapped out across from my place i'm gonna get outside more...
big difference from tredmill -> outside.

I've been getting bored of the loops around here, so I'll make a playlist of Phish jams and won't stop until it's done.
It's a good way to break up the monotony.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 19, 2009, 04:31:23 PM

Pain is temporary, Finishing is forever.

Did you see that three people died during the Detroit marathon?

So....not finishing is also forever?

To be fair, one of them did finish (the half marathon).

Also, aug, the second set of 11/21/97 is one of the best fucking things to play for a run ever.  Ditto with 12/6/97 II.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on October 19, 2009, 04:32:42 PM

Pain is temporary, Finishing is forever.

Did you see that three people died during the Detroit marathon?

So....not finishing is also forever?

To be fair, one of them did finish (the half marathon).

Also, aug, the second set of 11/21/97 is one of the best fucking things to play for a run ever.  Ditto with 12/6/97 II.

Really?
Both of those are lame sets.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 19, 2009, 04:33:29 PM
Nice work!
How often are you running during the week?

thanks!
3-4 times/week... but it's all inside.
now that i have this route mapped out across from my place i'm gonna get outside more...
big difference from tredmill -> outside.

I've been getting bored of the loops around here, so I'll make a playlist of Phish jams and won't stop until it's done.
It's a good way to break up the monotony.

word.
i need to start making playlists like that... the more distracting , the better.
distance, right now, isn't my thing... but length of time is... like as long as i run 45 minutes to an hour, when i do, i'm happy...
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 19, 2009, 04:38:13 PM
I gave them both a C+, for some reason running makes them listenable.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 19, 2009, 05:09:52 PM
small run, 5K for me tomorrow.... 8K on turkey day, too...

keep it up, GBL! :)

finished it better than i expected.
been smoke free, completely, for a little over two months. still hacked up half my lung when it was over.

great run tho! fun times...

next up: turkey day.

WTG Coleman!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: kellerb on October 19, 2009, 06:02:17 PM

Pain is temporary, Finishing is forever.

Did you see that three people died during the Detroit marathon?
Its detroit, they only count the ones who die of natural causes

/LRN2DUK
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: PhishPhan on October 19, 2009, 07:15:33 PM
I just ran to the mailbox and back :|

It's too cold to run here...
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 20, 2009, 06:59:01 AM
small run, 5K for me tomorrow.... 8K on turkey day, too...

keep it up, GBL! :)

finished it better than i expected.
been smoke free, completely, for a little over two months. still hacked up half my lung when it was over.

great run tho! fun times...

next up: turkey day.

congrats!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 20, 2009, 07:00:14 AM

Pain is temporary, Finishing is forever.

Did you see that three people died during the Detroit marathon?

So....not finishing is also forever?

To be fair, one of them did finish (the half marathon).


sux. wasn't even a hot day
 :-(
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 20, 2009, 01:00:07 PM
I was thinking the cold might have had something to do with it.

They were cases of dehydration, and possibly the cold might have fooled these people into not drinking enough water... or something.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on October 21, 2009, 11:12:20 AM
Gotta hydrate, regardless of the temp. 

Lots of strange marathon happenings recently! 

http://deadspin.com/5386175/marathoners-never-trained-get-it-for-this

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 21, 2009, 01:14:24 PM
Gotta hydrate, regardless of the temp. 

Lots of strange marathon happenings recently! 

http://deadspin.com/5386175/marathoners-never-trained-get-it-for-this

That's an amazing story.  Thanks for the website link, btw.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on October 21, 2009, 03:30:59 PM
Gotta hydrate, regardless of the temp. 

Lots of strange marathon happenings recently! 

http://deadspin.com/5386175/marathoners-never-trained-get-it-for-this

I will never get those 20 seconds of my life back, thanks..
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 21, 2009, 04:28:09 PM
I was thinking the cold might have had something to do with it.

They were cases of dehydration, and possibly the cold might have fooled these people into not drinking enough water... or something.

temp was in the 40s - that's actually reasonable for runing 26.
tragic.

Gotta hydrate, regardless of the temp. 

Lots of strange marathon happenings recently! 

http://deadspin.com/5386175/marathoners-never-trained-get-it-for-this

I will never get those 20 seconds of my life back, thanks..

Maybe something like this gave Rosie Ruiz the idea for her stunt
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: hesthemamba on October 21, 2009, 07:29:17 PM
this thread just inspired me to go for a double hood run., felt great

soundtrack:
10/21/95 Hood (4 years ago today)
7/16/94 Hood ->TOTAL divided sky tease in the middle of trey's solo @ 13:48... if you wanna get teased.

EDIT: they didn't even play divided sky that night, schweet.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on October 22, 2009, 12:46:35 PM
I love that Sugarbush "Hood!"

Found this via Deadspin:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/22/fashion/22FITNESS.html?_r=2&ref=todayspaper

I've already lost one nail and will probably lose my big nail on my right foot here in the near future.  Argh.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on October 22, 2009, 12:54:54 PM
I'm trying to get my ass back in running shape. Any of the midwestern runners up for a possible half marathon in the spring? I feel like I really need to set my next goal to get my training more consistent again.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 22, 2009, 01:00:06 PM

If it was a painless and cheap procedure I would have a couple toenails removed.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on October 22, 2009, 07:20:36 PM
I'm trying to get my ass back in running shape. Any of the midwestern runners up for a possible half marathon in the spring? I feel like I really need to set my next goal to get my training more consistent again.

I won't be out there, but I ran the Oshkosh (WI) 1/2 marathon in April of '07--it was a great little local race. Of course, there's probably one closer by you, too.

Welcome back.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on October 22, 2009, 08:02:30 PM
I'm trying to get my ass back in running shape. Any of the midwestern runners up for a possible half marathon in the spring? I feel like I really need to set my next goal to get my training more consistent again.

Depending on where you are thinking, I'd possibly be down. I'm not real fast, but I'll do it with ya!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on October 22, 2009, 11:19:46 PM
 :wtu:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on October 22, 2009, 11:23:21 PM
My wife has mentioned doing the local (St. Louis) half in April. I'm thinking that's what I'll shoot for probably, although I wouldn't mind checking out a race a few weeks before or after that one. I'll see if I can do a little researching for April/May and see what I come up with.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on October 23, 2009, 03:12:24 AM
My wife has mentioned doing the local (St. Louis) half in April. I'm thinking that's what I'll shoot for probably, although I wouldn't mind checking out a race a few weeks before or after that one. I'll see if I can do a little researching for April/May and see what I come up with.
Sweet, yeah I'd be down to give STL a shot. I'm open to others as well, so let me know what you come up with. I could use a good goal to work towards as well. I'm running a 7 mile off road costume race in Des Moines, IA in November. Looks like crazy fun!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on October 23, 2009, 08:56:58 AM
What's your costume?!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on October 23, 2009, 12:21:33 PM
What's your costume?!

Good question. We have a team, so we were thinking something that works together. Someone thought of getting hospital gowns, etc. and doing the whole "escaped inpatient" idea. I'll post once we have an original or "good" idea ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on October 24, 2009, 03:38:59 PM
Just knocked out 4 miles this AM. Perfect weather here for running--50s w/ a light breeze, all the fall colors. Wonderful.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on October 26, 2009, 10:42:33 AM
Just knocked out 4 miles this AM. Perfect weather here for running--50s w/ a light breeze, all the fall colors. Wonderful.

 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on October 26, 2009, 10:45:42 AM
My wife has mentioned doing the local (St. Louis) half in April. I'm thinking that's what I'll shoot for probably, although I wouldn't mind checking out a race a few weeks before or after that one. I'll see if I can do a little researching for April/May and see what I come up with.
Sweet, yeah I'd be down to give STL a shot. I'm open to others as well, so let me know what you come up with. I could use a good goal to work towards as well. I'm running a 7 mile off road costume race in Des Moines, IA in November. Looks like crazy fun!

Here's the half marathon I'm thinking about right now:
http://www.illinoismarathon.com/index.php (http://www.illinoismarathon.com/index.php)

Haven't checked out too many others yet. But I may not need to, this one sounds pretty good.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on October 26, 2009, 04:37:36 PM
Cranked out a ten miler today for the first time in a while.
Felt strong, too.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on October 26, 2009, 04:39:53 PM
Cranked out a ten miler today for the first time in a while.
Felt strong, too.

:banana: Congrats man, I'm gonna go for a 3 or 4 miler within the next hour or so. My third run after being out for about 5 days. I wrenched my back all sorts of nasty playing football. Kickass run!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on October 26, 2009, 05:26:46 PM
Cranked out a ten miler today for the first time in a while.
Felt strong, too.

Nice job. I'm still quite a ways off from being back up to the 10 mile mark. That's awesome aug.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 05:38:23 PM

10 miles is a nice warmup.

When is the marathon August?   :evil:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on October 26, 2009, 05:40:00 PM

10 miles is a nice warmup.

When is the marathon August?   :evil:

First week of May!
Got a half in March and then going full out from there!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 05:58:58 PM

Nice bro

My spring is shaping up similarly...

end of Feb, Grimsby Half
mid March, Around the Bay 30K
early May, Sporting Life 10K
late May, Ottawa full.

Rinse & Repeat.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on October 26, 2009, 06:09:46 PM

Nice bro

My spring is shaping up similarly...

end of Feb, Grimsby Half
mid March, Around the Bay 30K
early May, Sporting Life 10K
late May, Ottawa full.

Rinse & Repeat.

Nice.
I wish I had a half around December, but I'll manage.
There are always 10Ks to run, but that's child's play... :wink:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 06:32:21 PM

If 10Ks are getting easy, time to get that time under 45 minutes...
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on October 26, 2009, 06:33:27 PM

If 10Ks are getting easy, time to get that time under 45 minutes...

I run to listen to music.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 06:44:38 PM

See if you can finish a 10K while listening to the Woosta 98 Mikes>Groove.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on October 26, 2009, 06:45:48 PM

See if you can finish a 10K while listening to the Woosta 98 Mikes>Groove.

I'd prolly fall asleep.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on October 27, 2009, 11:58:04 AM
 :-( ....

Looks like the only way I'm going to get in running shape again is by getting up before 5:30am and running in the dark. If I pull it off, I'll feel like a better man for it, but boy, is it gonna hurt for the first couple of weeks. If I actually get there, you can expect to hear from me a bunch in "Today I hate..."
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 27, 2009, 12:05:05 PM
:-( ....

Looks like the only way I'm going to get in running shape again is by getting up before 5:30am and running in the dark. If I pull it off, I'll feel like a better man for it, but boy, is it gonna hurt for the first couple of weeks. If I actually get there, you can expect to hear from me a bunch in "Today I hate..."

once you get in the habit, it won't be bad.
by march, you'll get some light - at least until daylight savings comes back.
Until then, you have the beautiful northern Vt winter mornings to look forward too
 :wink:

(actually, the pre-dawn winter sky is pretty cool)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on October 27, 2009, 12:10:56 PM
 :-D Yeah, but it's hard to see when your eyeballs are freezing over. Certain aspects of my home state's perfection are, well.... let's say "mysterious".
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on October 29, 2009, 11:07:20 AM

If 10Ks are getting easy, time to get that time under 45 minutes...

I run to listen to music.

Me too.  Which is why running early in the morning, or late at night, or when I'm tired, or when I'm pissed...just isn't that hard sometimes.  If you do it right, a 5 or 10-miler flies by in no time. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on October 29, 2009, 11:17:24 AM
I'm in the minority, but I don't listen to anything while running. I've been running 17 years and just never did it. As much as I love music, I enjoy the peace of just me and my thoughts.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on October 29, 2009, 09:54:04 PM
Nothing wrong with that.  The music helps me pace myself quite a bit.  I just did a 10K and didn't use an iPod for the first time.  I can't say it was awesome, but it wasn't horrible. 

I lurk over at the Runners World forums, iPods/MP3 players at races (whether they're allowed or not) is a HUGE issue.  Apparently, some people take offense to other people listening to music while racing.  Why?  I never understood that. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on October 29, 2009, 10:59:02 PM
I got my wife to stop listening to music on training runs for her safety, be it cars or other people that she wouldn't hear approaching. Doesn't bother me in races though.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on October 30, 2009, 11:03:02 AM
I'm in the minority, but I don't listen to anything while running. I've been running 17 years and just never did it. As much as I love music, I enjoy the peace of just me and my thoughts.

I'm with you there. I only listen to music (while running, obv.) if I'm on a treadmill. Even on an indoor track, I want to hear the world around me
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on November 01, 2009, 02:35:28 PM
Anyone else watch the race this AM?

First American male to win the NYC Marathon since '82!

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?slug=ap-nycmarathon&prov=ap&type=lgns

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_keflezighi_091101_mn.jpg)

Quote
NEW YORK (AP)óMeb Keflezighi became the first U.S. man to win the New York City Marathon since 1982 on Sunday, a victory that capped an outstanding day for American distance running.

Derartu Tulu of Ethiopia captured the womenís race, with two-time defending champ Paula Radcliffe falling back to fourth then grabbing her left leg in pain after finishing.

Keflezighi, the 2004 Olympic silver medalist, learned after a disappointing performance in the U.S. Olympic trials in New York two years ago he had a stress fracture in his hip. He capped the long and painful comeback with a landmark victory against a deep field for his first major marathon title.

That day in 2007 he also lost close friend Ryan Shay, who collapsed and died during the race. Keflezighi said the tears he shed after winning were for Shay.
Defending women's champion Paula Radcliffe, of Great Britain, reacts after crossing the finish line in fourth place at the New York City Marathon, Sunday, Nov. 1, 2009, in New York.

Born in Eritrea, the 34-year-old runner became a U.S. citizen in 1998. He was second in New York in 2004 and third in 2005. Wearing ďUSAĒ on the front of his jersey, Keflezighi won in 2 hours, 9 minutes, 15 seconds.

ďThe USA gave me all the opportunities there is in education, sports and lifestyle,Ē he said. ďTo be able to represent the USA is a big thing for me.Ē

A field of nearly 44,000 started the 40th edition of the race. The 53-degree weather was about perfect for the runners, although they were slowed by 14 mph winds.

Keflezighi pulled away from Robert Cheruiyot of Kenya in the 23rd mile to beat the four-time Boston Marathon champ by 41 seconds. Alberto Salazar had been the last American menís champion, taking three straight titles from 1980-82.

Moroccoís Jaouad Gharib finished third and Ryan Hall of the U.S. was fourth on a day when six Americans were in the top 10 for the first time since 1979. The race doubled at the national menís marathon championship.

Ludmila Petrova, a 41-year-old Russian, was the runner-up for the second straight year in the womenís race, while Christelle Daunay of France was third.

Radcliffe said she had tendinitis behind her knee. The world record-holder from Britain failed to win a marathon for just the third time in 11 starts.

The 37-year-old Tulu won Olympic gold medals on the track in the 10,000 meters in 1992 and 2000. Her only marathon title came in London in 2001.

She had struggled with her weight and endurance after the birth of her second daughter three years ago. But when she ran well at a half-marathon in Philadelphia on Sept. 20, she decided to enter New York.

ďI did not come here necessarily expecting to win,Ē she said, ďbut I did expect to be a strong competitor.Ē
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on November 01, 2009, 06:27:31 PM
I watched.  Strong showing from the American men.  Maybe it's a shift back to the hey days of US-domination in the long distances.

(probably not).

I was pulling for Ryan Hall but he didn't have it today. 

6 days until my first full!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on November 01, 2009, 06:28:08 PM
I watched.  Strong showing from the American men.  Maybe it's a shift back to the hey days of US-domination in the long distances.

(probably not).

I was pulling for Ryan Hall but he didn't have it today. 

6 days until my first full!

Good luck, man.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 01, 2009, 11:50:11 PM
I watched.  Strong showing from the American men.  Maybe it's a shift back to the hey days of US-domination in the long distances.

(probably not).

I was pulling for Ryan Hall but he didn't have it today. 

6 days until my first full!

Good luck, man.

good luck, have fun
I'm in the minority, but I don't listen to anything while running. I've been running 17 years and just never did it. As much as I love music, I enjoy the peace of just me and my thoughts.

I'm with you there. I only listen to music (while running, obv.) if I'm on a treadmill. Even on an indoor track, I want to hear the world around me

same here. as much as I listen to music in every other aspect of my life, I don't when I run. Part of it is a safety issue, part of it is I guess a zen thing. Want to get my own rhythm, I'll typically repeat a song in my head over and over like a mantra (once ran a marathon to Sample In a Jar)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on November 02, 2009, 12:44:56 PM
You all have inspired me once again!  I'm going for a run after work!   :-D
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on November 02, 2009, 03:16:10 PM

6 days until my first full!

good luck, have fun
I'm in the minority, but I don't listen to anything while running. I've been running 17 years and just never did it. As much as I love music, I enjoy the peace of just me and my thoughts.

I'm with you there. I only listen to music (while running, obv.) if I'm on a treadmill. Even on an indoor track, I want to hear the world around me

same here. as much as I listen to music in every other aspect of my life, I don't when I run. Part of it is a safety issue, part of it is I guess a zen thing. Want to get my own rhythm, I'll typically repeat a song in my head over and over like a mantra (once ran a marathon to Sample In a Jar)

^^^Yeah, I do that, too. I'll get a tune or jam in my head and it will work its way in to my stride and settle in for miles.

And good luck & godspeed, ghost_2000.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on November 03, 2009, 12:47:20 PM
Thanks for the well wishes, everyone.  It's 5 miles farther than I've ever run before, so I honestly have no idea what to expect.  My right shin has been achey for the past 3 weeks, which is cause for concern.  I'm just focused on hydration and rest right now...and a HUGE spaghetti lunch on Friday!   :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on November 03, 2009, 08:32:38 PM
Bring on the dirty jokes everyone, but it needs to be said--

ghost_2000, rub that shin. Ice helps, too--I apply ice directly for a minute or so, let it warm back up, keep going like that until the ice cube's gone--but rubbing a splinty shin is the most effective, I've found. Make a cuff out of both thumbs & both index fingers, tighten around the lower leg, and drain towards the foot. And push both your thumb pads right where it aches on your shin, too.

In my experience, race-day nerves generally outweigh any other factors. If you can run 20 miles confidently, you can run 26.2. Not comfortably, necessarily--there's some will involved in the last 6 miles. But you can do it, absolutely.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 03, 2009, 10:17:45 PM
you can definitely do it.
again, just stay within yourself the first 20.

don't get too discouraged over the sore shin. Ice it, stretch, etc like sunrise said.

For some reason, during the taper, and beginning of a marathon, it's pretty common to have all kinds of aches - once you get going you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on November 04, 2009, 06:44:50 AM
Thanks guys.  I have no doubt I can finish, it's just a matter of whether I can meet my goal time.  My shin does concern me, though, and I hope it doesn't cause problems late in the race.  But I'll plan on trying what sunrisevt mentioned! 

 :phish:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on November 04, 2009, 12:50:39 PM
You're likely to feel your shin along with every sore muscle you've had while training, and some new ones, over the course of the whole thing. None of them should stop you.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on November 04, 2009, 02:20:00 PM
Bring on the dirty jokes everyone, but it needs to be said--

ghost_2000, rub that shin. Ice helps, too--I apply ice directly for a minute or so, let it warm back up, keep going like that until the ice cube's gone--but rubbing a splinty shin is the most effective, I've found. Make a cuff out of both thumbs & both index fingers, tighten around the lower leg, and drain towards the foot. And push both your thumb pads right where it aches on your shin, too.

In my experience, race-day nerves generally outweigh any other factors. If you can run 20 miles confidently, you can run 26.2. Not comfortably, necessarily--there's some will involved in the last 6 miles. But you can do it, absolutely.

You're right on here sunrise. True shin splints are actually a muscular issue, not bone, which is why massaging it can help. There will be time for strengthening it after your race Ghost, but right now, stay focused and good luck!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 08, 2009, 09:15:26 PM
so ghost -how did it go?

Birdman's daughter is on a championship track team - going to nationals in FLA. Today they put on a 5K. Great day, nice course, well organized.
results
21:18, 6:52 pace, 2nd for age
(got beat by 3 or 4 middle schoolers)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on November 09, 2009, 08:48:05 AM
Pretty good.  My shin held up, but my hips and knees were killing my after the race.  That pain is gone, and now the soreness/stiffness has shifted to my thighs.  I was hoping to get back out and do an easy 5 today.  Argh.

This is coming out of Monument Circle in Indy at about the 3 mile marker.
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/neiloutercom/DSC00237.jpg)


This is at the finish - my actual chip time was 3:37:13!  Didn't get 3:30 but I told myself all along I would take anything under 3:40.  3:30 is my next goal for a spring marathon.  I kept the perfect pace until about 14, then the 3:30 pacer passed me and eventually I lost sight of them!  The last 3 miles were torture....
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/neiloutercom/DSC00238.jpg)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on November 09, 2009, 09:21:25 AM

Awesome!  I better get to work if I want to stay in this week4paug marathon best time competiton!

Looking strong out there, congrats!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 09, 2009, 09:46:07 AM
great work
 :beers: :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on November 09, 2009, 10:32:56 AM
Nice job ghost, that's an awesome 1st marathon time! Glad everything worked out with your shin.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on November 09, 2009, 11:14:33 AM
Nice time!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on November 09, 2009, 12:17:31 PM
Congrats, ghost!

 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: ghost_2000 on November 09, 2009, 12:47:48 PM
Thanks everyone!

More than 48 hours later and still stiff in some places.  The pain moved from my knees and hips into my thighs.  Might go for a walk later this afternoon. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on November 09, 2009, 01:42:11 PM
It won't be fun, but the faster you can get moving, the quicker some of that soreness should work out. A walk or light jog is just the right plan. oh, and +k for kicking some ass!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: birdman on November 09, 2009, 05:34:37 PM
so ghost -how did it go?

Birdman's daughter is on a championship track team - going to nationals in FLA. Today they put on a 5K. Great day, nice course, well organized.
results
21:18, 6:52 pace, 2nd for age
(got beat by 3 or 4 middle schoolers)
Let it be noted that I also ran in this 5k, with no prior training. I just went for it. My time...a blistering 27:55.  I also threw-up a bit right after the race.  I am also sore as hell today.
Perhaps I'll think twice about not training before my next run.
All you fast bastards are making me feel old.
Jerks. :wink:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on November 09, 2009, 05:42:13 PM
so ghost -how did it go?

Birdman's daughter is on a championship track team - going to nationals in FLA. Today they put on a 5K. Great day, nice course, well organized.
results
21:18, 6:52 pace, 2nd for age
(got beat by 3 or 4 middle schoolers)
Let it be noted that I also ran in this 5k, with no prior training. I just went for it. My time...a blistering 27:55.  I also threw-up a bit right after the race.  I am also sore as hell today.
Perhaps I'll think twice about not training before my next run.
All you fast bastards are making me feel old.
Jerks. :wink:

Holy shit!
That's really fucking good!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 09, 2009, 06:15:50 PM
so ghost -how did it go?

Birdman's daughter is on a championship track team - going to nationals in FLA. Today they put on a 5K. Great day, nice course, well organized.
results
21:18, 6:52 pace, 2nd for age
(got beat by 3 or 4 middle schoolers)
Let it be noted that I also ran in this 5k, with no prior training. I just went for it. My time...a blistering 27:55.  I also threw-up a bit right after the race.  I am also sore as hell today.
Perhaps I'll think twice about not training before my next run.
All you fast bastards are making me feel old.
Jerks. :wink:

I was willing to forget that ever happened.  :wink:

Did you skate last night?

Thanks everyone!

More than 48 hours later and still stiff in some places.  The pain moved from my knees and hips into my thighs.  Might go for a walk later this afternoon. 

yep, keep moving. except don't try to walk down stairs. (you probably figured this out already)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: birdman on November 09, 2009, 07:07:51 PM
so ghost -how did it go?

Birdman's daughter is on a championship track team - going to nationals in FLA. Today they put on a 5K. Great day, nice course, well organized.
results
21:18, 6:52 pace, 2nd for age
(got beat by 3 or 4 middle schoolers)
Let it be noted that I also ran in this 5k, with no prior training. I just went for it. My time...a blistering 27:55.  I also threw-up a bit right after the race.  I am also sore as hell today.
Perhaps I'll think twice about not training before my next run.
All you fast bastards are making me feel old.
Jerks. :wink:

I was willing to forget that ever happened.  :wink:

Did you skate last night?



Thanks for failing to mention my "really fucking good" job :lol:

Yes I did skate afterwards. The post game beers quickly made me forget about my pain however. :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 10, 2009, 11:14:59 AM
impressive.

beer always seems to cure what ails you  :-)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on November 13, 2009, 12:19:53 AM
So I head out to tackle a 4 miler today, pop on Miles Davis: Birth of the Blues, set my Forerunner, etc.. as I take my first step, I collapse in pain. This might be a little graphic, so feel free to stop reading now....

... okay so the pain is all in my groin, and I immediately call my dad (a doc) who calls his urologist who in turn calls me. Tells me to go to the ER asap as it could be a twisted testicle, which would require immediate surgery.

4 hours, tons of poking/proding, an ultrasound, and a shot of antibiotics later, I'm home. I have a cyst that formed as the result of the fucking H1N1 I had last week. How shitty is that? All in all, I'm so relieved that's all it is.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on November 13, 2009, 07:19:52 AM
So I head out to tackle a 4 miler today, pop on Miles Davis: Birth of the Blues, set my Forerunner, etc.. as I take my first step, I collapse in pain. This might be a little graphic, so feel free to stop reading now....

... okay so the pain is all in my groin, and I immediately call my dad (a doc) who calls his urologist who in turn calls me. Tells me to go to the ER asap as it could be a twisted testicle, which would require immediate surgery.

4 hours, tons of poking/proding, an ultrasound, and a shot of antibiotics later, I'm home. I have a cyst that formed as the result of the fucking H1N1 I had last week. How shitty is that? All in all, I'm so relieved that's all it is.

Good news overall, glad you avoided a much bigger issue.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 13, 2009, 07:01:22 PM
ouch

glad it worked out OK
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 13, 2009, 09:47:06 PM
So I head out to tackle a 4 miler today, pop on Miles Davis: Birth of the Blues, set my Forerunner, etc.. as I take my first step, I collapse in pain. This might be a little graphic, so feel free to stop reading now....

... okay so the pain is all in my groin, and I immediately call my dad (a doc) who calls his urologist who in turn calls me. Tells me to go to the ER asap as it could be a twisted testicle, which would require immediate surgery.

4 hours, tons of poking/proding, an ultrasound, and a shot of antibiotics later, I'm home. I have a cyst that formed as the result of the fucking H1N1 I had last week. How shitty is that? All in all, I'm so relieved that's all it is.

btw

just where did they give you that injection anyway?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on November 14, 2009, 12:31:24 AM
So I head out to tackle a 4 miler today, pop on Miles Davis: Birth of the Blues, set my Forerunner, etc.. as I take my first step, I collapse in pain. This might be a little graphic, so feel free to stop reading now....

... okay so the pain is all in my groin, and I immediately call my dad (a doc) who calls his urologist who in turn calls me. Tells me to go to the ER asap as it could be a twisted testicle, which would require immediate surgery.

4 hours, tons of poking/proding, an ultrasound, and a shot of antibiotics later, I'm home. I have a cyst that formed as the result of the fucking H1N1 I had last week. How shitty is that? All in all, I'm so relieved that's all it is.

btw

just where did they give you that injection anyway?
HAHA!  I lucked out, just in my butt. Stings pretty good, but they cut it with lidocaine  so it takes the edge off.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 14, 2009, 09:35:31 AM
hmmm

must've used a pretty long needle if you got a cyst in your groin
 :wink:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on November 17, 2009, 09:57:30 PM
I put in a quick 4 in the cold rain this morning. Always feel strong after pushing through on the bad weather days.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on November 26, 2009, 08:24:51 AM
Off to my 1st 5k!

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on November 26, 2009, 11:24:26 AM
Off to my 1st 5k!

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

Success! Posted time of 35:42 but since there were about 13,000 people running i didn't get to the start line till about 2 or 3 minutes after they started the clock.. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on November 26, 2009, 11:36:40 AM

Nice job - 10K next?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 26, 2009, 12:00:29 PM
nice. nothing like a race Thanksgiving morning. makes the gluttony to follow seem justified
 :-)

5K this AM, 21:35
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: birdman on November 26, 2009, 12:21:41 PM
nice. nothing like a race Thanksgiving morning. makes the gluttony to follow seem justified
 :-)

5K this AM, 21:35
Did you get a pie?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 26, 2009, 01:34:42 PM
yep - gonna send it to Austin. Figure it will be there when he gets back from his honeymoon.

did your daughter run?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on November 26, 2009, 04:26:38 PM
Off to my 1st 5k!

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

Success! Posted time of 35:42 but since there were about 13,000 people running i didn't get to the start line till about 2 or 3 minutes after they started the clock..

Don't they use the thing in your shoe to not start your official time until you cross the starting line?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on November 26, 2009, 07:47:36 PM
Ran a 7mile off road race last weekend, and did a Turkey Trot 5k yesterday... 10k next up for me on Dec. 12. It's going to be ridiculously cold I'm sure.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 26, 2009, 08:52:22 PM
that 7m off road race sounds like fun
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on November 27, 2009, 03:14:20 AM

Nice job - 10K next?

I'd like to run 2 or 3 more 5K's and be able to run sub 30's easily first..
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: birdman on November 27, 2009, 08:24:42 AM
yep - gonna send it to Austin. Figure it will be there when he gets back from his honeymoon.

did your daughter run?
Dave will love that :-D
No, my daughter took the day off yesterday. Big race in Florida next weekend so they are taking it easy.

I should note that the 8-10 yo boys on my daughters team took 1st place in the regional USTFA meet last weekend and will be heading to Reno NV in a few weeks to compete for the national 8-10 championship.
Those kids can run!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on November 27, 2009, 01:45:18 PM
that 7m off road race sounds like fun
Pretty fun, there are 8 different water crossings, and then ropes tied to help climb up the muddy hill on the other side. Kind of a cluster though with 7500 runners. People from all around though, so it was pretty nice. Great dinner of beef stew/pumpkin pie after the run though. That was a highlight. ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 27, 2009, 04:17:02 PM
yep - gonna send it to Austin. Figure it will be there when he gets back from his honeymoon.

did your daughter run?
Dave will love that :-D
No, my daughter took the day off yesterday. Big race in Florida next weekend so they are taking it easy.

I should note that the 8-10 yo boys on my daughters team took 1st place in the regional USTFA meet last weekend and will be heading to Reno NV in a few weeks to compete for the national 8-10 championship.
Those kids can run!
yep - a few kicked my butt.

Good luck in FLA
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on December 05, 2009, 02:00:04 PM
Did a slow 3 miler a couple days ago listening to 11/28/09 Albany, NY Set II: -7>Ghost, and RIGHT when I finished and had just started my walk, "Cool it Down" came on. Pretty intense :)  :banana: :phish:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on December 05, 2009, 08:02:16 PM
Did a slow 3 miler a couple days ago listening to 11/28/09 Albany, NY Set II: -7>Ghost, and RIGHT when I finished and had just started my walk, "Cool it Down" came on. Pretty intense :)  :banana: :phish:

That is an AWEFULLY slow 3 miles ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on December 07, 2009, 09:02:03 AM
Did a slow 3 miler a couple days ago listening to 11/28/09 Albany, NY Set II: -7>Ghost, and RIGHT when I finished and had just started my walk, "Cool it Down" came on. Pretty intense :)  :banana: :phish:

That is an AWEFULLY slow 3 miles ;)
HA! Yeah, yeah... I listened to almost all of -7 during the warm up though ;) That being said, still an AWFULLY slow three miles haha ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on December 07, 2009, 09:45:25 AM
Heh.  I meant "awefull" as in "full of awe-some"  :wink:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on December 18, 2009, 12:38:29 PM
didn't see too many people on the road this AM. 7 deg, -6 with wind chill

gortex shirt + polartec + running jacket
running tights + sweat pants
ski gloves, ski hat, ski gator
headlamp (just got it, great for pre-dawn or after dark running)

quite toasty - actually a bit too warm.
nice run, glad I went.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on December 18, 2009, 12:54:05 PM

I run 10K at 5am on Tuesdays - love it, especially this time of year.

It does sound like you're wearing too much... not sure how necessary sweats are if you're wearing tights, and a gator is an extra layer you may not need.

I have a flashy light for my arm, but I usually run on the major streets so I'm pretty visible.

I cashed in a gift card from Nike yesterday, got new Gortex Pegs, gloves and the new Nike+ Sportsband!

Stoked to break out the gear and get out for a quick 4-6K after work...
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on December 18, 2009, 02:36:40 PM

I run 10K at 5am on Tuesdays - love it, especially this time of year.

It does sound like you're wearing too much... not sure how necessary sweats are if you're wearing tights, and a gator is an extra layer you may not need.

I have a flashy light for my arm, but I usually run on the major streets so I'm pretty visible.

I cashed in a gift card from Nike yesterday, got new Gortex Pegs, gloves and the new Nike+ Sportsband!

Stoked to break out the gear and get out for a quick 4-6K after work...
I'm looking for a really warm glove, as my hands get super cold. Any suggestions? Also, what is the best for keeping the feet warm? I tried some of the foot warmers, and that was a disaster (blisers like crazy duhhh, I did not think this through).
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on December 18, 2009, 02:40:31 PM

If you're working hard you shouldn't need foot warmers, but a Gortex shoe can help keep your feet dry and by extension warmer.

As far as gloves, look for something made from thinsulate.

Make sure you wear socks that go up your calf, ankle socks can make for some cold achilles.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on December 18, 2009, 03:37:46 PM
I find the gator is good to get me started, especially on windy days, then I pull it down once I warm up.
Usually, in sub zero I need the extra layers - it probably wasn't as cold as I thougth. Or maybe I'm a little tougher now.

agree with longer sox for the cold. Personally, I haven't had a problem with foot warmers, but I only need them when it is about 0 before windchill
Keep the feet dry, wiggle your toes. maybe a real thin extra sock (like a baseball sanitary) will work. if it's too tight though, it will backfire on you and make things worse.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on December 18, 2009, 03:59:55 PM
Thanks guys, great advice. I've been using the Saucony Hurricane 10s that I was wearing this fall, and I think that I might be getting cold feet (no pun here) because they are getting wet. Will try the Thinsulate, and the ankle socks for sure. Any good Gortex type shoes you might recommend? I have a pretty flat foot, so that can be a pain sometimes.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on December 18, 2009, 04:01:07 PM

I wear Nike's - the Pegasus is a pretty flat shoe, but there is also a support/control shoe which they make in Gortex.

All depends on your feet - hit up your local Running Room and talk to the manager.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on December 18, 2009, 09:50:34 PM
Thanks guys, great advice. I've been using the Saucony Hurricane 10s that I was wearing this fall, and I think that I might be getting cold feet (no pun here) because they are getting wet. Will try the Thinsulate, and the ankle socks for sure. Any good Gortex type shoes you might recommend? I have a pretty flat foot, so that can be a pain sometimes.
the best thing for flat feet are orthotics. custom ones can be expensive, but worth it over the long run. they last > 10 yrs and I couldn't run without them (verrrrrry flat feet). They make some you can buy "off the shelf" that might be good, too.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on December 18, 2009, 09:57:59 PM

So who's up for a 2010 Nike+ Challenge?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on January 05, 2010, 05:37:47 PM
Im joining this club.

Never been a runner before. Ive always been moderately fit from just being active and eating properly, but since turning 30 about 16 months ago I have definitely notices that my metabolism alone isnt enough to keep me fit anymore.

Im also aware that if I want to hike / bike / ski in CO in the same way that I did back at home in NC and WV, I need to be in better shape.  Its just bigger, steeper, harder, and theres less oxygen in the air.

So, as my only xmas gift, I bought a pair of Asics Cumulous 10 runners and have been on the treadmill for 3 weeks.  I started w/ intervals of 2 mins walk, 3 mins run for 30 mins.  Now Im doing 3 mins walk, 5 mins running for 40 mins. 

Im still waiting for the point where I actually "enjoy" it, but I know that as I progress it will become more enjoyable. Also when I start to see the results applied to my goals, which is to be able to enjoy my favorite outdoor recreations w/out struggling for air.

Cant wait to run my first 5k w/ my wife.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on January 05, 2010, 06:08:00 PM
Im joining this club.

Never been a runner before. Ive always been moderately fit from just being active and eating properly, but since turning 30 about 16 months ago I have definitely notices that my metabolism alone isnt enough to keep me fit anymore.

Im also aware that if I want to hike / bike / ski in CO in the same way that I did back at home in NC and WV, I need to be in better shape.  Its just bigger, steeper, harder, and theres less oxygen in the air.

So, as my only xmas gift, I bought a pair of Asics Cumulous 10 runners and have been on the treadmill for 3 weeks.  I started w/ intervals of 2 mins walk, 3 mins run for 30 mins.  Now Im doing 3 mins walk, 5 mins running for 40 mins. 

Im still waiting for the point where I actually "enjoy" it, but I know that as I progress it will become more enjoyable. Also when I start to see the results applied to my goals, which is to be able to enjoy my favorite outdoor recreations w/out struggling for air.

Cant wait to run my first 5k w/ my wife.

Awesome allen, good to hear! It definitely takes a while to get to the point where you enjoy it, but once you get to that point it's fantastic.
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Post by: guyforget on January 05, 2010, 06:20:57 PM
hey, thanks p_i_l.  yeah, i'll get there. i have my wife as motivation, too, shes been running for years while i sit at home and give myself the munchies. so itll be cool when i can keep up with her and we can run together. currently she'd leave me in the dust, huffing and puffing.

until then, i'll keep plugging away to get to the point where i find it enjoyable.
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Post by: slslbs on January 05, 2010, 09:19:27 PM
awesome!
when the weather gets better, hope you try the roads. I'm sure the scenery near where you live doesn't suck, and might make it more interesting for you.
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Post by: slslbs on January 15, 2010, 10:41:58 PM
so - I got one of those Nike chips. I plan on the first run with it Sunday. Hopefully, I'll be able to do a calibration fun first, but there might be snow on the track.

Is anyone else on line with it?
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Post by: slslbs on January 17, 2010, 02:22:25 PM
1st run with Nike + today.
couldn't calibrate it cause the track is covered in snow - the cal is a little off.
8.6mi according to the sensor, 8.3mi according to mapmyrun.com, 8.2 according to my car.
I like the instantaneous pace / distance info.
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Post by: guyforget on January 17, 2010, 02:32:03 PM
after matt posted about nike+ challenge and my wife started reading about, its all she talks about.  thanks, 'stick.  so, im guessing she'll be online w/ it in the next few weeks.  i think shes gonna sign up for a half marathon in may, so...   pressures on me to catch up. 
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Post by: G. Augusto on January 18, 2010, 10:08:16 AM
Still use mine.
I love it.
Gotta start training real soon for the LI Marathon in May.
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Post by: mattstick on January 18, 2010, 10:10:18 AM
Allen - I still have the Nike+ Nano attachment to send out to you - been really busy and disorganized with GF moving in but I'll get it out.

Last year on Jan 28 I started training for the Ottawa Half-Marathon which is at the end of May, very doable to get that far in your training in a few months.

also, Nike+ challenge anyone?
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Post by: G. Augusto on January 18, 2010, 10:13:59 AM
also, Nike+ challenge anyone?

Sounds good.
420 miles by ???
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Post by: mattstick on January 18, 2010, 10:17:02 AM

I've only setup Challenges which were most KMs over a time period.

What are the other options?
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Post by: G. Augusto on January 18, 2010, 10:27:12 AM

I've only setup Challenges which were most KMs over a time period.

What are the other options?

Well, there could be a first to a certain distance or everyone has the goal of running that distance, which is better IMO.
I think there are speed challenges, as well.

I'd be down with a 500K or something big like that.
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Post by: antelope19 on January 18, 2010, 10:29:34 AM
As for me, I am re-joining the gym Feb. 1.  But it's so nice out today, I may have to get started early and go for a run.  Time for me to get my fat ass in shape!  Once I'm back up to speed, I'd be happy to join a Nike challenge.  So maybe on the second go around?
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Post by: mattstick on January 18, 2010, 10:31:56 AM
I'm down with whatever...

Have you seen the Nike+ Mobile site?  Looks nice on the iPhone.

I'm doing about 45km a week these days, I've got the Grimsby Half-Marathon on 2/28/10, then a race or two a month, culminating in the Ottawa Full Marathon at the end of May.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on January 18, 2010, 10:33:16 AM
I got a wedding I'm training for!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on January 18, 2010, 10:39:07 AM

Running is not the best way to get fit - hit the gym brah!  Pump some iron!
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Post by: antelope19 on January 18, 2010, 10:40:52 AM
MUSCLE MILK!!!!!
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Post by: slslbs on January 18, 2010, 12:41:46 PM
I got a wedding I'm training for!
that's more mental and obey training than physical training.
 :wink:

I'm down for whatever - I'm not gonna be training for a marathon (or half) any time soon, so you will all get me on distance. should be fun anyway.
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Post by: guyforget on January 19, 2010, 02:58:59 PM
Allen - I still have the Nike+ Nano attachment to send out to you - been really busy and disorganized with GF moving in but I'll get it out.


word, i totally forgot about that, thanks bud.  what else does she need, the shoe insert?

last night was the first night i didnt do run/walk cycles, ran a full half hour, 2.5 miles.  not mind-blowing, but probably the longest ive ever run at one time in my whole life.  of course, ive woken up before the crack of dawn to get to trailheads to climb mountains over 10/12+ mile days hiking with anywhere from 5 to 40 lbs on my back, but im sure ive never actually run for 2.5 miles at one time.  its a different feeling on the body, for sure. 

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Post by: shoreline99 on January 28, 2010, 09:51:14 AM
Anybody ever run barefoot? Interesting article.

http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2010/127/1

also, the vibram five finger shoes seem pretty cool...

http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/products/products_footwear.cfm
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Post by: UncleEbinezer on January 28, 2010, 09:59:36 AM
I think alcoholandcoffeebeans has the 5 finger shoes.
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Post by: whyweigh5.0 on January 28, 2010, 11:50:20 AM
I like the KSO Treks
http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/products/products_kso_trek_m.cfm

But those look like something that you would DEFINITELY need to try on before you buy.  They look like they would need to be a perfect fit to your foot or else it would be very uncomfortable
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Post by: mattstick on January 28, 2010, 11:55:03 AM
I have a pair of the Nike "Free" shoes for when I'm at the gym, sometimes I run on the treadmill and I'm always sore in weird places (mostly below the knee) even running 20 minutes.

(http://barefootrunningshoes.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/nike-free-shoes-6.jpg)

There is just no way you could run a marathon on pavement without proper padding and support in your shoes.
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Post by: shoreline99 on January 28, 2010, 12:06:05 PM
Thanks for the input, Matt. I was curious about trying a pair of these as I have had problems with shin splints in the past. They're quite expensive without knowing if they actually work or not.

I think it's an interesting concept though.
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Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on January 28, 2010, 02:30:01 PM
i do indeed have the 5 finger shoes.... i wore them to the fenway, deer creek, and alpine shows last year. best way to be barefoot but not really.

have i used them for running? yes, but only indoors... gonna try them outside soon when the weather gets better and no socks are needed...
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Post by: Play_It_Leo on January 31, 2010, 11:06:16 PM
Finally registered for the Illinois 1/2 Marathon on May 1st even though I've been talking about it for 3 months. Had some decent runs the last couple weekends. The countdown is now officially on.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on February 01, 2010, 02:13:53 PM

January is in the books and I logged 220.6km on the road.

Had a tough, cold 22km run yesterday, rounding into shape for the race season which starts in Grimsby ONT, 2/28.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on February 01, 2010, 03:12:29 PM
I'm not running (bad knee) but just started biking again
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on February 02, 2010, 12:52:33 PM
Ran 7m this AM for the first time in probably 2 years. 51 minutes. Nice weather for it here (about 35*F) Still have a long way to go.
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Post by: slslbs on February 03, 2010, 06:45:21 AM
my nike+ sensor seems to have recalibrated itself. The same run it called 10.18K last week is not calling 8.44K. same exact course.

anyone else see something like this?
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Post by: slslbs on February 06, 2010, 01:27:27 PM
same run today
gave me 6.8 km
(real distance is 6 miles)

I don't get it
 :?
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Post by: sunrisevt on February 06, 2010, 03:01:14 PM
Ran 7m this AM for the first time in probably 2 years. 51 minutes. Nice weather for it here (about 35*F) Still have a long way to go.

Dude, you have to have been running during those 2 years, though, right? 51 minutes for 7 miles is pretty fast.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on February 07, 2010, 12:51:42 PM
He was a 5:00 miler in HS
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Post by: Play_It_Leo on February 08, 2010, 02:59:29 PM
Ran 7m this AM for the first time in probably 2 years. 51 minutes. Nice weather for it here (about 35*F) Still have a long way to go.

Dude, you have to have been running during those 2 years, though, right? 51 minutes for 7 miles is pretty fast.

My last big race was a half marathon in the fall of 2007. Was training well the next summer til I thought I was getting a stress fracture in my foot. Started training again last summer, but often I'm only able to run 2 times a week.

He was a 5:00 miler in HS

You're on the right track, but that was 15 years ago.
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Post by: mattstick on February 08, 2010, 03:36:53 PM

I had to do the math, that's 4:38/km clip - very fast for a training run.
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Post by: slslbs on February 08, 2010, 03:49:04 PM
Ran 7m this AM for the first time in probably 2 years. 51 minutes. Nice weather for it here (about 35*F) Still have a long way to go.

Dude, you have to have been running during those 2 years, though, right? 51 minutes for 7 miles is pretty fast.

My last big race was a half marathon in the fall of 2007. Was training well the next summer til I thought I was getting a stress fracture in my foot. Started training again last summer, but often I'm only able to run 2 times a week.

He was a 5:00 miler in HS

You're on the right track, but that was 15 years ago.

stress fracture would suck.

5 min mile definitely doesn't suck, no matter when you did it, even if it was for just one mile. nor does a 7:18 training pace over 7 mi  (that's about my tempo pace).

very impressve
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Post by: mattstick on February 08, 2010, 03:53:46 PM

Lately I've been torn between whether I should be training on the treadmill or outside - I've come to the conclusion that a mix of both is probably the best option.

Running on the streeet you get slowed down by traffic, in the winter I worry about slipping on icy spots, and it's difficlut to hydrate as well as indoors.
Running on the treadmill is easier (no hills/wind resistance), but consequently I can push the tempo and get a better workout.  But it's not "real world" conditions for race day...

Thoughts?
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Post by: Play_It_Leo on February 08, 2010, 04:00:54 PM

Lately I've been torn between whether I should be training on the treadmill or outside - I've come to the conclusion that a mix of both is probably the best option.

Running on the streeet you get slowed down by traffic, in the winter I worry about slipping on icy spots, and it's difficlut to hydrate as well as indoors.
Running on the treadmill is easier (no hills/wind resistance), but consequently I can push the tempo and get a better workout.  But it's not "real world" conditions for race day...

Thoughts?


Easier for me to say here in St. Louis, but if weather allows it, outdoors anyday over treadmill. Mechanically, on a treadmill, you basically just have to keep up with the belt. The muscles that you use to push yourself forward (glut, calf, hamstring to some extent) hardly have to work. You essentially end up working hip flexors and quads.
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Post by: slslbs on February 08, 2010, 04:04:05 PM
I hate treadmills.
Only use them when I have to, like being away and having to run early in the AM and worried about personal safety.
I'd rather do a speed workout, or any workout outside, but that's just me.

On the other hand, extreme cold (put your personal definition of what that is) and icy roads can make runnning a little less fun and a little more dangerous.
And, like you said, control of pace on a treadmill is more controlled by your brain than your body. that can be both good and bad. For getting the feel of racing, the "real world" of the road, like you said, is better imo.

I guess the bottom line is do what works for you, and do what you have to do considering weather and road conditions, etc (I once did 20m on a treadmill before a marathon. sucked, but didn't have a choice).

A mediocre run is better than no run.
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Post by: guyforget on February 15, 2010, 02:18:02 PM
i suck at running outside.  the cold air just freaks my lungs out.  i huff and puff and never catch up with my breath, even running at the same pace that i can sustain for 30 minutes inside on the treadmill.  its kinda frustrating... 

i try to run "full stride" on the treadmill.  its way easy to get into a lazy rhythm on it, barely lifting your legs, etc. 
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Post by: MiamiPhish on February 16, 2010, 01:57:23 PM
Does anyone have experience taking whey protein as a supplement to running and or lifting?  I've just started taking three scoops (60g protein) with cold water 15 minutes after running or lifting and though I can't really see the effect yet, I can feel it.  Recovery boost: check.
But I'd be interested to see if anyone had anything negative to say about it.
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Post by: slslbs on February 16, 2010, 06:58:15 PM
It's a lot of calories, about 240. An ounce of beef has about 5-6 gm protein (+ some fat, of course). So, your getting the same amount of protein as a 10oz steak. Unless you are reducing calories some other part of the day, sounds like you'll put on weight, not necessarily in muscle.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: shoreline99 on February 22, 2010, 09:53:46 AM
i suck at running outside.  the cold air just freaks my lungs out.  i huff and puff and never catch up with my breath, even running at the same pace that i can sustain for 30 minutes inside on the treadmill.  its kinda frustrating... 

Holy Crap, I ran outside both days this weekend, half hour run both days. Couple of miles in the cold. Hurting today. Feels good, though.
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Post by: mattstick on February 22, 2010, 09:54:57 AM

I ran in shorts for the first time in 2010 on Sunday.  Legs felt good, "man parts" were cold.
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Post by: guyforget on February 22, 2010, 02:57:39 PM
currently 23 degrees (F) here in Denver, dont think Ill be doing much of anything outside.

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Post by: khalpin on February 22, 2010, 04:28:09 PM

Lately I've been torn between whether I should be training on the treadmill or outside - I've come to the conclusion that a mix of both is probably the best option.

Running on the streeet you get slowed down by traffic, in the winter I worry about slipping on icy spots, and it's difficlut to hydrate as well as indoors.
Running on the treadmill is easier (no hills/wind resistance), but consequently I can push the tempo and get a better workout.  But it's not "real world" conditions for race day...

Thoughts?
I actually came in here to ask basically the same question, which was do you guys exclusively run outdoors?  And how long (time-wise &/or distance-wise) do you run for on a normal day.  I started doing the treadmill right after New Years and am actually sticking with it.  I live in a hilly area, so in order to do any running outdoors, I'd have to drive for 10 minutes and I know taking another 20 minutes out of my day would definitely make me run less often.  Plus, I like being able to watch DVR'd hockey highlights while running.  Makes the time go by.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: StCarl on February 22, 2010, 04:28:29 PM
re: recent discussions on cold weather running and ice slippage etc.  I would say my lady Margaret is more than a casual runner - she does halfs and tris and trail runs and such - and she swears by these:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2715/4380291776_68cb564320.jpg) (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2715/4380291776_68cb564320_b.jpg)

Get-A-Grip Advanced (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006IBV54?ie=UTF8&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&tag=straightoutta-20&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0006IBV54)

Maggie runs with these outside all through the Minnesota winter.  Makes running on ice and hard pack not even a thing.  And she's been doing a race a month year-round, so for her I know the ability to train in "real world conditions" is key.  I've seen her pimp these to all her runner friends.  Earlier in the season would have been a better time to point these out.  I'll bump this next fall.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on February 22, 2010, 05:39:36 PM

Lately I've been torn between whether I should be training on the treadmill or outside - I've come to the conclusion that a mix of both is probably the best option.

Running on the streeet you get slowed down by traffic, in the winter I worry about slipping on icy spots, and it's difficlut to hydrate as well as indoors.
Running on the treadmill is easier (no hills/wind resistance), but consequently I can push the tempo and get a better workout.  But it's not "real world" conditions for race day...

Thoughts?
I actually came in here to ask basically the same question, which was do you guys exclusively run outdoors?  And how long (time-wise &/or distance-wise) do you run for on a normal day.  I started doing the treadmill right after New Years and am actually sticking with it.  I live in a hilly area, so in order to do any running outdoors, I'd have to drive for 10 minutes and I know taking another 20 minutes out of my day would definitely make me run less often.  Plus, I like being able to watch DVR'd hockey highlights while running.  Makes the time go by.

the single most important thing about running is that it has to be fun. If you're having fun with what you're doing, than do it.
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Post by: mattstick on February 23, 2010, 12:40:52 PM
http://sneakernews.com/2010/02/19/nike-htm2-running-boot-low-high-preview/ (http://sneakernews.com/2010/02/19/nike-htm2-running-boot-low-high-preview/)

(http://images.sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/nike-htm2-running-boot-04.jpg)

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The Nike HTM2 Running Boots make you forget about Marty McFly’s Mags and see these as the future of running.  Assuming the fit is good, why would you pass up a super sleek, breathable, flexible yet supportive runner that fits like a sock?  And with the Free 7.0 sole, you’ll find your balance improved and feet strengthened.  It remains to be seen if this really is a watershed moment for sneaker design, but stick with Sneaker News and we’ll keep you posted.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on February 26, 2010, 11:25:13 AM
Well, I hit the 4 mile mark today at the gym!  No, it's not where I want/need to be.  But I don't think it's too bad for only being in there for a week.  Psyched to be running again!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: MiamiPhish on February 26, 2010, 11:33:42 AM
Well, I hit the 4 mile mark today at the gym!  No, it's not where I want/need to be.  But I don't think it's too bad for only being in there for a week.  Psyched to be running again!

I don't want to tell you what you already know, but they say you should increase your exercise load 10% per week.  I don't know what kind of shape you're in, or your running history, but I do know that most people trying to run 4 miles at one time after only a week are just asking for injury.  Sounds like you haven't ran in a while - you don't need to get to where you were before you stopped in a week.

just a thought
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Post by: guyforget on February 26, 2010, 11:58:23 AM
Get-A-Grip Advanced (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006IBV54?ie=UTF8&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&tag=straightoutta-20&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0006IBV54)

sweet link, wife is ready to order.  march is denver's snowiest month. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on February 26, 2010, 12:07:55 PM

I'll be running the Grimsby Half-Marathon in the snow on Sunday!

I suspect the road will be plowed, maybe even salted, but I'm still expecting wintery conditions.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on February 26, 2010, 12:08:53 PM
 :-o  Hope you've got some of the Under Armour Cold gear!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on February 26, 2010, 12:45:47 PM

All-good brah, I'm Canadian!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: StCarl on February 26, 2010, 03:19:47 PM
Get-A-Grip Advanced (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006IBV54?ie=UTF8&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&tag=straightoutta-20&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0006IBV54)

sweet link, wife is ready to order.  march is denver's snowiest month.

maggie says wanted me to clarify they help somewhat in snow but they're awesome for icy sidewalks and streets

she goes on to say...
Quote
i wear them everytime i run except on routes when i know there's very little ice, because there's no use wearing down the spikes unless you need that stability
but you can run on pavement with them and they don't hurt or anything.   they don't work as well in snow.  they do help somewhat - you just still don't have great traction on snow.
So read what you want to into that.  I think she's picturing running in really deep snow or something.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on February 26, 2010, 03:44:18 PM
yeah, but same thing happens here that happens there - some people shovel, some dont.  those that dont get shoveled eventually get packed down and slick, or they go through freeze/thaw cycles and get slick.  if the snow is over the shoes on the sidewalk, its a treadmill day anyway.  but in our neighborhood, it doesnt take long for the sidewalks that go unshoveled to get packed in and slick, esp when the top layer gets hoary and faceted and then packed down. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: redrum on February 26, 2010, 06:51:26 PM
i went for a jog today.
does that mean i'm in the club?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on February 26, 2010, 07:47:13 PM
i went for a jog today.
does that mean i'm in the club?

You betcha!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on February 26, 2010, 08:18:58 PM
Only if MB joins too
:)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on February 28, 2010, 01:13:06 PM
Threw down a 1:44 in the Grimsby Half-Marathon this morning without really pushing too hard.

I had fun, it was a small race and the first race of the season so it was a positive experience.

Next up, "Around the Bay" 30K at the end of March.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on March 01, 2010, 10:46:23 AM
Is it bad that I want to air guitar while running on the tread mill when there are other people around?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on March 01, 2010, 10:56:12 AM

I do it too, especially to Run Like An Antelope.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on March 04, 2010, 02:11:56 PM

I run a lot of races, and I usually only focus on one of them for fundraising.  This is not one of them, but...

I'll be running 30K on Sunday March 28 and if anyone was looking to donate some money to a good cause, feel free to donate here:

http://www.eventsonline.ca/cgi-bin/events/atbrr/pledge.pl?id=RR1216535 (http://www.eventsonline.ca/cgi-bin/events/atbrr/pledge.pl?id=RR1216535)

On Sunday March 28, 2010 Iíll be participating in the 116th Around the Bay Road Race in support of St. Josephís Healthcare Foundation. The staff at St. Joeís go the extra mile for the patients they serve each and every day. Now, itís our turn!

The thermometer on the left tracks my fundraising and Iím hoping youíll help me raise the bar all the way to the top! Together we can watch the thermometer climbÖand our spirits will climb too because we know that each and every dollar raised will touch the lives of countless patients at St. Joeís!

Thanks for your support! Come out to Copps Coliseum on Sunday March 28, 2010 and watch me cross the finish line. We can celebrate going the extra mile to support St. Josephís!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on March 27, 2010, 12:49:46 PM
Good luck tomorrow Matt. I just knocked out 12 this AM in 81 minutes. Right on target for running sub-1:30 in my 1/2 marathon in 5 weeks. Nice to get some longer runs in and still feel strong.
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Post by: slslbs on March 27, 2010, 11:03:59 PM
nice
good luck
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on March 28, 2010, 03:41:51 PM

That's an awesome goal Play_It_Leo - you can do it!

I'm working on the 3:30 marathon, hopefully one of the 2 I run in 2010.

Today went well, I was on pace at 10km, 15km and then I started to fall off.  By 20km I was 90 seconds off and the course had some killer hills over the last 1/3, when all was said in done I finished at 2:36:00 - not sure if I had more to give but I certainly didn't kill myself over last 10km in an attempt to finish any faster.

Around The Bay is one of the oldest Road Races in North America, and it finishes inside Copps Coliseum - very cool.

Next races - Harry's 8K on Saturday then 4/19 Montreal Half-Marathon where I will push to beat my PB of 1:38:56.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on April 11, 2010, 02:20:31 PM
My wife just ran the St. Louis 1/2 Marathon this AM. Finished at 2:02 which is her personal record! I pushed the kids around St. Louis in our jogging stroller and had a blast. Got me pumped up for my 1/2 in 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Nobes on April 11, 2010, 03:33:58 PM
Just did my first 1/2 marathon in Burlington, VT yesterday. 2:01:57. I was happy just finishing. My right hip felt like it was going to explode from mile 11 on. Kill Devil Falls and BDTNL helped me immensely, but Born in the U.S.A. live kicked my ass into finishing those last 2.1 miles. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 11, 2010, 06:29:57 PM
 :beers: to Mrs Leo and Nobes
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 11, 2010, 06:48:34 PM
Great job Nobes & wife of PIL, I've got the Montreal Half-Marathon on tap for next weekend.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 11, 2010, 07:23:40 PM
good luck
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Post by: Nobes on April 11, 2010, 07:46:40 PM
Thanks Mattstick. And good luck to you. A 3:30 marathon sounds pretty fucking intense to me!

PS> Is it normal to not be able to walk ever again after your first half? I feel like I'm going to die. And I never felt that way during training. Then again, I never did 13 mi. in my training. 10 was the max. That extra 3 blew all my working parts out.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: MiamiPhish on April 11, 2010, 08:03:26 PM
My friend, a long-time runner (from age 10ish to now 24), said that it took him nearly a year to completely recover, training-wise, from his first marathon, if that's any consolation.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on April 11, 2010, 08:04:22 PM
My friend, a long-time runner (from age 10ish to now 24), said that it took him nearly a year to completely recover, training-wise, from his first marathon, if that's any consolation.

How is that possible?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 11, 2010, 08:13:19 PM

You should be pretty sore after your first half, I didn't go to work the next day after mine.

Tip: walk downstairs backwards.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 11, 2010, 09:54:13 PM

You should be pretty sore after your first half, I didn't go to work the next day after mine.

Tip: walk downstairs backwards.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 16, 2010, 12:11:17 PM

Off to Montreal after work tonight, Half-Marathon on Sunday.

Stoked to go and run in Montreal, seems like a fun city for a race.

Weather doesn't look good though, 11C & rainy.  Bad for me, worse for my girlfriend who has to stand around for a couple hours.

Hoping to break 1:40 but my fitness level is way down from the last time I ran close to that.  We'll see....
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on April 16, 2010, 12:17:59 PM
My friend, a long-time runner (from age 10ish to now 24), said that it took him nearly a year to completely recover, training-wise, from his first marathon, if that's any consolation.

How is that possible?

It shouldn't be. A year makes no kind of sense.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 16, 2010, 12:20:01 PM

4 weeks off, light running only (>5K), no weights and you can fully recover from a Marathon
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on April 16, 2010, 12:21:54 PM
Thanks Mattstick. And good luck to you. A 3:30 marathon sounds pretty fucking intense to me!

PS> Is it normal to not be able to walk ever again after your first half? I feel like I'm going to die. And I never felt that way during training. Then again, I never did 13 mi. in my training. 10 was the max. That extra 3 blew all my working parts out.

I hope this advice is now unnecessary, but in case it isn't... ice and advil are your best friends at first. Then, when you feel up to it, do some VERY easy working out--run WAY slower than your usual pace, or just bike to save your joints. I've found that getting everything moving and loose again goes a long way towards recovery.

edit to add:

PlayItLeo: DAMN, son! Sub-7 minutes is serious shit! Are you shooting for under 3 hours for the big one?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on April 16, 2010, 01:26:45 PM
good luck on sunday, mattstick! 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on April 16, 2010, 10:17:28 PM
good luck on sunday, mattstick! 

Hope the weather's decent. Enjoy Montreal too!

edit to add:

PlayItLeo: DAMN, son! Sub-7 minutes is serious shit! Are you shooting for under 3 hours for the big one?

I'm not sure if I'll do another marathon. It'll probably happen, but I was really disappointed with myself after my second one. I might give it a shot again if this half goes as well as I'm hoping. We will see.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on April 29, 2010, 12:16:59 PM
Just checked the forecast (again) for Champaign, IL this weekend for my half. It initially looked like a chance of thunderstorms Friday night and Saturday, but now there's nearly no rain forecasted for the weekend. I'm pumped, 2 days to go!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 29, 2010, 12:23:15 PM

Good luck dude!  PB!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 29, 2010, 09:57:45 PM
Just checked the forecast (again) for Champaign, IL this weekend for my half. It initially looked like a chance of thunderstorms Friday night and Saturday, but now there's nearly no rain forecasted for the weekend. I'm pumped, 2 days to go!
good luck
hope you have a nice, cool day.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on May 02, 2010, 03:14:13 PM
Weather held out, started out overcast and ended sunny and kinda warm. Ran 1:29 which dropped my PR by 2 minutes. Ready to start looking for my next half. Definitely don't feel ready to try the full out again yet. It may not seem like much, but I've been helped greatly by the encouragement of you guys. Thanks!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on May 02, 2010, 03:27:58 PM
Great time!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 02, 2010, 03:40:05 PM

PB!  Great time for sure.

I ran the Sporting Life 10K at marathon training pace, came in around ~ 47:30
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 02, 2010, 08:43:24 PM
Weather held out, started out overcast and ended sunny and kinda warm. Ran 1:29 which dropped my PR by 2 minutes. Ready to start looking for my next half. Definitely don't feel ready to try the full out again yet. It may not seem like much, but I've been helped greatly by the encouragement of you guys. Thanks!

nice
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on May 05, 2010, 11:35:20 AM
Not quite up to the calibre of most of you runners here but I have gotten back into it this Spring.  Started around 3 - 4 km and am now pushing 6 km.  Hope to get up to 10 km or so by Summer.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on May 06, 2010, 07:06:02 PM
wow, never even poked my head in here before.  lots of cool stuff in here.  well to shorten a long story, I did my first jog/run in years.  I dont even know when it was really.  But since my decision in may to stop smoking cigarettes i thought it only fitting to get back into something i loved before smoking.  There is a nice park by me thats around 5mi(8k), and for my first crack i only did half of it in about 20 min.  nothing incredible but I def feel like ill be seeing you all in here more frequently.  ya know what after looking i didnt really shorten at all, oh well.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on May 06, 2010, 07:11:35 PM
Atta boy JJ, same here, felt the need to replace that old habit with something healthy.  As soon as the weather got nice, it was time.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 06, 2010, 07:14:53 PM
wow, never even poked my head in here before.  lots of cool stuff in here.  well to shorten a long story, I did my first jog/run in years.  I dont even know when it was really.  But since my decision in may to stop smoking cigarettes i thought it only fitting to get back into something i loved before smoking.  There is a nice park by me thats around 5mi(8k), and for my first crack i only did half of it in about 20 min.  nothing incredible but I def feel like ill be seeing you all in here more frequently.  ya know what after looking i didnt really shorten at all, oh well.
Atta boy JJ, same here, felt the need to replace that old habit with something healthy.  As soon as the weather got nice, it was time.

awesome
 :beers:
(after the run, of course :) )
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on May 06, 2010, 07:20:56 PM
wow, never even poked my head in here before.  lots of cool stuff in here.  well to shorten a long story, I did my first jog/run in years.  I dont even know when it was really.  But since my decision in may to stop smoking cigarettes i thought it only fitting to get back into something i loved before smoking.  There is a nice park by me thats around 5mi(8k), and for my first crack i only did half of it in about 20 min.  nothing incredible but I def feel like ill be seeing you all in here more frequently.  ya know what after looking i didnt really shorten at all, oh well.

Brah, when I finally caught the running bug, I was able to go 4 minutes before I literally thought I was gonna die on someone's lawn.
Set modest weekly goals and modest daily goals to keep you motivated.
First 2 weeks are gonna be shitty.
Push through and you might just find running to be part of the rest of your life.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on May 06, 2010, 10:16:15 PM
wow, never even poked my head in here before.  lots of cool stuff in here.  well to shorten a long story, I did my first jog/run in years.  I dont even know when it was really.  But since my decision in may to stop smoking cigarettes i thought it only fitting to get back into something i loved before smoking.  There is a nice park by me thats around 5mi(8k), and for my first crack i only did half of it in about 20 min.  nothing incredible but I def feel like ill be seeing you all in here more frequently.  ya know what after looking i didnt really shorten at all, oh well.

Brah, when I finally caught the running bug, I was able to go 4 minutes before I literally thought I was gonna die on someone's lawn.
Set modest weekly goals and modest daily goals to keep you motivated.
First 2 weeks are gonna be shitty.
Push through and you might just find running to be part of the rest of your life.


THIS.

Also, sub-10 minute miles for your first run in years is nothing to sneer at.

It's been a bitch making the time since our daughter was born, but we joined a gym recently and the cardio work, coupled with some great weather, has got me itching to get out on the road & trails again.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: blatboom on May 06, 2010, 10:18:26 PM
I'm getting closer and closer to motivating myself... my father has been a runner his whole life.  I need shoes
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on May 06, 2010, 11:38:26 PM
I need shoes
Yeah, me too, the skate sneaks just don't cut it  :roll:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on May 07, 2010, 08:06:37 AM
I need shoes
Yeah, me too, the skate sneaks just don't cut it  :roll:
no they dont.  i need my own shoes too. i stole my dads Asics last night, they worked.  Anyone have some advice on some legit shoes?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 07, 2010, 08:26:50 AM
Go to your local Running Room, bring some older worn-in shoes for reference, and buy whatever they recommend.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on May 08, 2010, 02:03:25 PM
Glad to hear you guys are all getting the running itch. It's always rough getting yourself going. Sticking it out through the first 2-4 weeks is the toughest part. Hopefully the weather stays good enough to get you guys into a solid routine. And don't worry about time or pace at this point. Any running is better than none.

On shoes, my feet have always been partial to the Asics 2000 series, but they definitely don't work for everybody. Matt's right, head to a running shoe store (Fleet Feet is the place to go in St. Louis, The Running Spot is it in Cincinnati and I'm sure every town has its own). They should be able to get you in a pair of shoes that fits you well.

I may be working on a presentation for my boss for injury prevention in runners. If I can get it put together, I'll share it with you guys too.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on May 13, 2010, 12:37:03 PM
well ive been on a steady 3mi loop about every other day.  Today was the first time i really felt myself being able to do most of it without feeling like death.  It feels like good stuff is on the horizon.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on May 17, 2010, 11:40:21 AM
my wife ran the colfax half marathon here in denver, co yesterday. 

got off to a slow start and thinks she could have been closer to her goal 2:00:00 finish time, but she managed to come in faster than the field average at 2:13.  we were a little late getting to city park for the start, so she got behind a couple large groups of slower racers.  i think she could have pushed it harder at the end but it was her first half and understandably she wanted to play it conservatively. 

im very proud of her!


1: city park, denver, co
2: mile 6
3: finish! 

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 17, 2010, 12:27:23 PM
awesome
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on May 28, 2010, 12:48:32 PM
good luck this weekend, mattstick!  im sure you'll kick ass. 3:45 or bust! 

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 28, 2010, 01:06:15 PM

Thanks buddy!  While I'm getting a little concerned about the heat, and generally nervous about the race - I'm ready for it!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on May 28, 2010, 01:10:46 PM
good luck this weekend, mattstick! 
Hope ya get some good weather for it.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 28, 2010, 02:01:27 PM
good luck
hope it stays cool
if it's hot, don't push it (unfortunately, I have personal experience of thinking the heat wouldn't get to me in a marathon. it does)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 28, 2010, 02:15:14 PM

The race starts at 7, so I don't think heat will be an issue until the last hour or so...

One fun part about this run is that my girlfriend Heather is running the 1/2 marathon, which starts at 9 - 2 hours later - and a great deal of it is along the same course as the marathon.  She's running the 1/2 in 2 hours, and if I run the full in 3:45 I will be passing her somewhere on the course.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on May 28, 2010, 02:25:44 PM

The race starts at 7, so I don't think heat will be an issue until the last hour or so...

One fun part about this run is that my girlfriend Heather is running the 1/2 marathon, which starts at 9 - 2 hours later - and a great deal of it is along the same course as the marathon.  She's running the 1/2 in 2 hours, and if I run the full in 3:45 I will be passing her somewhere on the course.




Holly says to tell Heather to find the RunningSkirts table, apparently theyll be vending in Ottawa.  Holly LOVES her RunningSkirts (green one seen above in my photos), just make sure to get the ones w/ the compression shorts underneath.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: whatapiper on May 29, 2010, 02:38:03 AM
just celebrated my first year of running with my 2nd 12k, the "Rhody Run."  Felt much much better than last year and finished under my 1 hour goal!   
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on May 29, 2010, 07:14:55 AM
Weather held out, started out overcast and ended sunny and kinda warm. Ran 1:29 which dropped my PR by 2 minutes. Ready to start looking for my next half. Definitely don't feel ready to try the full out again yet. It may not seem like much, but I've been helped greatly by the encouragement of you guys. Thanks!

Dude I just saw this. You're in shooting distance of a ~3 hour marathon, which earns you a big HOLY SHIT from this kid.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 29, 2010, 01:02:14 PM
yes, I am most jealous
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on May 31, 2010, 08:34:59 AM
Congrats whatapiper. The first year's the toughest, congrats.

Matt, can't wait to hear how the weekend went for you!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 31, 2010, 08:45:14 AM

Not good. I finished, but it was tough.

Let us never speak of the 2010 Ottawa Marathon again.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 31, 2010, 12:07:47 PM
doesn't matter
you finished.

congrats
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 31, 2010, 12:22:19 PM

Thanks.  It's just disappointing to train so hard for so long, then go out there and be exhausted at 24km.  My split at the 1/2 was perfect for pace and I didn't feel like I went out too quickly, but things got really tough over the second half.

I'm still trying to figure out what went wrong, whether it was just a bad day, maybe I didn't train properly, not sure.

In one way I feel like dealing with the exhaustion and pushing through it was more of an achievement than the first marathon I did.

 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on May 31, 2010, 12:25:11 PM
then go out there and be exhausted at 24km. 
This line blows me away, I can't imagine making it to 24 km.  Just the fact that you are able to pull these runs off is a feat in itself.  Isn't this your 1st one of the season?  I wouldn't be too hard on yourself, you're bound to get better as the season wears on.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 31, 2010, 12:29:01 PM
Been there - it sucks
You trained your ass of for 4 - 6 months and then have a shitty day.

See if there is something you can learn from it, if not forget about it.

you can still say you have run 2 marathons, which is 2 more than most people think of trying.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 31, 2010, 12:43:44 PM
Once I fought my way to 31km I started to think "11 more km and you'll have finished your second marathon".  I wasn't running fast or anywhere close to my pace but the "just do it" attitude got me through.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on May 31, 2010, 01:58:19 PM
way to go matt, sometimes its just not your day, but as long as you dont give up and live to fight another day, you win. 

how'd heather do?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on June 01, 2010, 09:09:52 AM
Been there - it sucks
You trained your ass of for 4 - 6 months and then have a shitty day.

See if there is something you can learn from it, if not forget about it.

I've used races I've felt like that about as motivation for the next time around. Glad you were able to push through feeling shitty and still finish up.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on June 01, 2010, 09:12:56 AM
how'd heather do?

Heather had a rough day too - went out too fast and finished up slow.

I've used races I've felt like that about as motivation for the next time around. Glad you were able to push through feeling shitty and still finish up.

I'm already there - after marathon #1 I couldn't even think about running another marathon, this time out I'm going to rest a couple weeks then get right back at it.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on June 10, 2010, 10:35:00 AM
Well, I did it.  I signed up for the Annapolis 10 Miler.  We're doing it as an office(there are only 4 of us) which should certainly be entertaining to say the least.  First training session was this morning.  5 miles!  The run isn't until the end of August, but this'll be the farthest I've ever run before(in a race anyway).
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on June 10, 2010, 10:37:12 AM

10 miles is perfect - a Half-Marathon starts to get tough around 10 miles.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on June 10, 2010, 10:39:42 AM

10 miles is perfect - a Half-Marathon starts to get tough around 10 miles.  Good luck!

Thanks man.  I'm def. gonna need it.  :-)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on June 10, 2010, 11:34:16 AM
Well, I did it.  I signed up for the Annapolis 10 Miler.  We're doing it as an office(there are only 4 of us) which should certainly be entertaining to say the least.  First training session was this morning.  5 miles!  The run isn't until the end of August, but this'll be the farthest I've ever run before(in a race anyway).

Good luck Jon! Hope your training goes well.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: UncleEbinezer on June 10, 2010, 11:46:28 AM
Been reading this thread a lot today.  Downloaded the Couch-to-5K running plan that has been suggsted here which looks promising.

I started running this week just started small.  Get up a few minutes early and jog/walk about 1 mile.  I feel better already.  Came to this thread looking for advise on getting started and it has delivered. 

Thanks for all of the tips on getting started and hopefully I can make this part of a good morning regiment.

Oh and good luck there Johnny!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on June 10, 2010, 01:35:26 PM
Congrats on getting started Uncle Eb. May be helpful to sign up for a 5K that's a couple months away too. Can help keep motivation up on rough mornings if you've got something definite to shoot for.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on June 10, 2010, 01:40:10 PM
Congrats on getting started Uncle Eb. May be helpful to sign up for a 5K that's a couple months away too. Can help keep motivation up on rough mornings if you've got something definite to shoot for.

QFT

I know myself, and this 10 miler is exactly what I need to keep my ass motivated.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: rowjimmy on June 10, 2010, 10:07:58 PM
Wife got me jogging tonight.

That's quite a trick.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on June 10, 2010, 10:20:25 PM
I must say I'm impressed.

The paug is on a roll. Good luck to all that just are getting started. Have patience, have fun.
Read the Penguin Chronicles

We'll have to enter as a team for the next Runaway Jim 5K
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on July 16, 2010, 09:23:02 AM
Another 6 miles this morning and doing it consistently!  We're a month and a half away from the 10 miler.  I think I'm right on target so far. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on July 16, 2010, 09:30:56 AM

Run for the roses!

I'm running my 3rd marathon at the end of September, really focusing on strength training and not running for now.

I know I can run that far, so I'm going to improve my overall fitness level in July/August, then towards the end of August really ramp it up with some big runs so I don't get burnt out.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: UncleEbinezer on July 16, 2010, 09:58:06 AM
Another 6 miles this morning and doing it consistently!  We're a month and a half away from the 10 miler.  I think I'm right on target so far.

Good work lope!!! 

I'm still on week 1 of the Couch-to-5K method after a short hiatus.  Feels great!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on July 16, 2010, 10:02:33 AM
Another 6 miles this morning and doing it consistently!  We're a month and a half away from the 10 miler.  I think I'm right on target so far.

Good work lope!!! 

I'm still on week 1 of the Couch-to-5K method after a short hiatus.  Feels great!

Nice work! 

couch-to-5k, lol   :-D
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: UncleEbinezer on July 16, 2010, 10:03:45 AM
Another 6 miles this morning and doing it consistently!  We're a month and a half away from the 10 miler.  I think I'm right on target so far.

Good work lope!!! 

I'm still on week 1 of the Couch-to-5K method after a short hiatus.  Feels great!

Nice work! 

couch-to-5k, lol   :-D

Yeah and I like the couch....A LOT!   :-D
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on July 16, 2010, 10:06:42 AM
Another 6 miles this morning and doing it consistently!  We're a month and a half away from the 10 miler.  I think I'm right on target so far.

Good work lope!!! 

I'm still on week 1 of the Couch-to-5K method after a short hiatus.  Feels great!

Nice work! 

couch-to-5k, lol   :-D

Yeah and I like the couch....A LOT!   :-D

Believe me, I know.  having someone else to run with, and keep you accountable has helped out ALOT
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on July 16, 2010, 02:08:55 PM
Nice job 'lope, can't wait to hear how your 10 miler goes. Keep up the great work.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on July 16, 2010, 09:49:42 PM
Nice job 'lope, can't wait to hear how your 10 miler goes. Keep up the great work.

yea, keep it up!!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: UncleEbinezer on July 19, 2010, 09:52:06 AM
On the second week of the couch to 5K.  Getting up this morning was tough, but after the run, worth it.  I feel so much better afterwards.  I think once I relaly get set on the routine it will be great.  I can't wait to get further along in the program so I'm not doing so much run/walk and more run.  I think that accomplishment feeling is what I really want to get at!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on July 20, 2010, 03:12:37 PM
On the second week of the couch to 5K.  Getting up this morning was tough, but after the run, worth it.  I feel so much better afterwards.  I think once I relaly get set on the routine it will be great.  I can't wait to get further along in the program so I'm not doing so much run/walk and more run.  I think that accomplishment feeling is what I really want to get at!

Monday/Tuesday mornings are definitely tougher depending on how much you "enjoyed" the weekend.   :-D
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on July 20, 2010, 04:17:05 PM
About 4.5 miles this morning. Started out cool & overcast. Ended with me pushing the kids in the stroller through the rain. Oops. At least they have a canopy over the stroller.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on July 20, 2010, 04:23:33 PM
About 4.5 miles this morning. Started out cool & overcast. Ended with me pushing the kids in the stroller through the rain. Oops. At least they have a canopy over the stroller.

 :-D

Glad you're getting out there!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on July 21, 2010, 11:30:40 PM
About 4.5 miles this morning. Started out cool & overcast. Ended with me pushing the kids in the stroller through the rain. Oops. At least they have a canopy over the stroller.
LOL. I remember going out on a run thinking I could beat the thunderstorm.
got home about 10 lbs heavier from the extra weight of rainwater in my clothes and shoes. not to mention that I couldn't see out of my glasses.
I gotta get one of those canopies
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on July 22, 2010, 12:08:36 AM
About 4.5 miles this morning. Started out cool & overcast. Ended with me pushing the kids in the stroller through the rain. Oops. At least they have a canopy over the stroller.
LOL. I remember going out on a run thinking I could beat the thunderstorm.
got home about 10 lbs heavier from the extra weight of rainwater in my clothes and shoes. not to mention that I couldn't see out of my glasses.
I gotta get one of those canopies

Not just a canopy, somebody to push you while you're covered in it. good luck!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on July 22, 2010, 07:15:49 AM

Finishing a long run in the rain is definitely a notch on any runners belt.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: UncleEbinezer on July 23, 2010, 08:47:07 AM
Completed another run this morning.  I am on Week 1 of the Couch to 5K plan.  Well I did Week 1 for 2 weeks.

Also, took my dog Jiboo with me this morning.  He did suprisingly well.  I figured he would have been tired afterwards...nope, still running all over the house this morning.  BTW, he's 6 years old!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on July 24, 2010, 06:42:20 PM

Finishing a long run in the rain is definitely a notch on any runners belt.
True story. The Dam to Dam 20K in Iowa this year was absolute downpour the first hour. Finishing absolutely drenched just felt absolutely amazing. I'm finally back on the road again after a month off. I hurt my back something nasty, and today was the first run... only did 2 miles, but we'll see how the back holds up.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on July 29, 2010, 04:36:48 PM
So what shoes does everyone wear.  It probably wouldn't be a good idea to get a new pair so close to the race date, but I've logged some serious miles and will be due for a new pair very soon. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on July 29, 2010, 04:39:37 PM

You only need one or two runs in new shoes before a race. 

I like Asics & Nike but you should get a pro to look at your feet and your old shoes.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on July 29, 2010, 05:32:11 PM

You only need one or two runs in new shoes before a race. 

I like Asics & Nike but you should get a pro to look at your feet and your old shoes.

That's an interesting thought.  I might have to do that.  Thanks.
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Post by: slslbs on July 31, 2010, 11:36:34 PM
agreed
don't buy shoes by the brand. expert reviews are meaningless unless your foot, weight, and running style are exactly like the reviewer.
go to a good running shop and get what feels right.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on August 03, 2010, 03:55:17 PM
agreed
don't buy shoes by the brand. expert reviews are meaningless unless your foot, weight, and running style are exactly like the reviewer.
go to a good running shop and get what feels right.

Agreed. In general, going with shoes that are from a company that focuses mainly on running shoes has been my preference. Asics are my usual, Saucony does pretty well also. But to find the style that fits you best, you definitely need the assistance of a pro.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on August 30, 2010, 09:40:57 AM
Moving a little slow today.   :-D

Ran the 10 miler yesterday.  Did it in just over 1 hour and 27 minutes!  Absolutely smashed my goal time and can't honestly believe I was able to pull that time off!  I am pretty pumped about it and can't wait for the half marathon I signed up for in Baltimore in mid-October.  Sore as hell today.   

It was definitely a learning experience being my first race, but this seems like something I can get into for a long time.   
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: UncleEbinezer on August 30, 2010, 10:05:31 AM
Moving a little slow today.   :-D

Ran the 10 miler yesterday.  Did it in just over 1 hour and 27 minutes!  Absolutely smashed my goal time and can't honestly believe I was able to pull that time off!  I am pretty pumped about it and can't wait for the half marathon I signed up for in Baltimore in mid-October.  Sore as hell today.   

It was definitely a learning experience being my first race, but this seems like something I can get into for a long time.

Nice work!!!!
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Post by: mattstick on August 30, 2010, 10:13:13 AM

Nice job dude!

If you can do a Ten-Miler in under 1:30 you can destroy the half marathon.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on August 30, 2010, 12:17:15 PM
wtg, 'lope!

question for all you runners.... i'm back at it again after about a 3 month hiatus, and my late evenings are a little more free than day time....  night running vs. morning running?

what say you?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on August 30, 2010, 12:34:59 PM

Doesn't really matter, some people don't run at night because it's tough to get to sleep.

Also, you'll have more energy (generally) in the morning.

I'd take it slow and do a weeks worth of morning runs, and a weeks worth of evening runs then see which you prefer.

For me, I have 27 days until my next marathon - I've done very little training, kinda fucked right now.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on August 30, 2010, 02:36:58 PM

Doesn't really matter, some people don't run at night because it's tough to get to sleep.

Also, you'll have more energy (generally) in the morning.

I'd take it slow and do a weeks worth of morning runs, and a weeks worth of evening runs then see which you prefer.

For me, I have 27 days until my next marathon - I've done very little training, kinda fucked right now.

Agreed.  It's really personal preference.  I prefer the mornings for a number of reasons, but the main being that it's not nearly as hot. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on August 30, 2010, 02:38:10 PM
PS- the only thing missing from yesterday's race was a "FLUFFHEAD" sign.   :|

 :-D
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on August 30, 2010, 09:06:21 PM
good work, "lope

as for night vs morning - I find I'm much looser in afternoons, but it does me no good because the only time I have to run is in the AM. So, I get up early - it's nice, peaceful, and cool in the summer (and dark in the winter)
bottom line - whatever works
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on October 17, 2010, 09:26:42 AM
we are underway, live from the denver rock & roll marathon where my wife is running her first full. 

go, holly, go! 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 17, 2010, 10:03:43 AM
Run Holly Run!

Heather and I are cheering her on...
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 17, 2010, 10:22:34 AM
go, holly, go!


:beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 17, 2010, 11:06:11 AM
Good luck, Mrs GF
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on October 17, 2010, 12:49:12 PM
Good luck, Mrs GF
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on October 17, 2010, 12:58:13 PM
just past 19.7mi @ 3:43!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Multibeast12 on October 17, 2010, 01:23:06 PM
Good luck, Mrs GF
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on October 18, 2010, 01:47:50 AM
 :-o
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Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 18, 2010, 08:37:31 AM
She looks pretty happy Guy, can we assume she did pretty well for her first full marathon.

I've just been getting back on track the last couple of weeks getting out every night after work.
Love my new sneaks.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on October 18, 2010, 10:10:20 AM
Big congrats to Holly on her first full!

I ran my first half this weekend up in Baltimore.  I am sore as hell, but managed to finish in just under 2 hours!  I was super psyched!  My official time was 1:59:47!!!!!!

I officially hate hills.   :-D
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 18, 2010, 10:12:57 AM
Great pic of Holly, Allen.  Congrats to both of you =)

@antelope - nice dude, just under the wire for 2 hours!

My girlfriend & I ran the Toronto Zoo 10K together on the weekend, I cruised at about 70%, checked out the animals and enjoyed the nice fall weather.  I'm gonna ramp up the training in the winter months and push for a sub-40min 10K in the spring.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: guyforget on October 18, 2010, 12:54:16 PM
way to go, 'lope.  denver is flat, so she didnt have to worry about hills too much, just a small gradual incline.  but, she started running in west virginia, so, we know hills. 

4:59:26 i think was her official finish time.  her goal was 4:40 so she was a little slow, but she still finished strong and is feeling pretty good today. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 18, 2010, 01:03:53 PM
awesome!
congrats
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on October 20, 2010, 01:41:18 PM
Signed up for another 10 miler in Va Beach in early decmber.   :-D
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: UncleEbinezer on October 20, 2010, 02:04:31 PM
Signed up for another 10 miler in Va Beach in early decmber.   :-D

Bring a helmet someone(s) may pelt you with beer cans.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on October 21, 2010, 04:03:14 PM
Signed up for another 10 miler in Va Beach in early decmber.   :-D

Bring a helmet someone(s) may pelt you with beer cans.

Rather than being a drunk, why don't you run with us?   :-D
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on November 24, 2010, 10:19:53 AM
2000km kids...
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 24, 2010, 10:28:26 AM
Holy shit Matt, nice job.  :clap:
You basically ran from Toronto to Florida.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on November 24, 2010, 10:29:49 AM

Or as Nike pointed out, from Madrid to Rome.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 24, 2010, 10:33:59 AM

Or as Nike pointed out, from Madrid to Rome.
even better
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 25, 2010, 12:23:45 PM
Feaster 5 this AM
21:46

lack of miles + my age is starting to show
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on November 25, 2010, 12:28:13 PM
Feaster 5 this AM
21:46

lack of miles + my age is starting to show

Duder!
I'd be more than thrilled throwing down 7 min at your decrepit-like age!  :wink:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on November 25, 2010, 12:30:41 PM

Great time - congrats!
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Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 25, 2010, 01:39:11 PM

Great time - congrats!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: birdman on November 25, 2010, 02:01:50 PM
Feaster 5 this AM
21:46

lack of miles + my age is starting to show
Nice job!
 What kind of pie did you get?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 26, 2010, 12:38:22 PM
thanks
I still haven't gotten used to the fact that I need to re-adjust

"you know that you're over the hill when your mind makes a promise that your body can't fill"

Feaster 5 this AM
21:46

lack of miles + my age is starting to show
Nice job!
 What kind of pie did you get?
apple.
best part is the T shirt - long sleeve, "tech fabric" instead of cotton.
I was looking for you in case your daughter was running. Hard to find anyone with 10,000 racers + spectators
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on December 06, 2010, 01:26:48 PM
Ran the first annual Surf-n-Santa 10 miler over the weekend in Va Beach.

For only running twice since the half marathon, my time of 1:38 ain't too shabby.  I was thrilled with it, honestly.  It was brutally cold and windy, and I walked more of this race than any of the others this year. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: UncleEbinezer on December 06, 2010, 02:19:23 PM
Ran the first annual Surf-n-Santa 10 miler over the weekend in Va Beach.

For only running twice since the half marathon, my time of 1:38 ain't too shabby.  I was thrilled with it, honestly.  It was brutally cold and windy, and I walked more of this race than any of the others this year.

Cold and windy for sure!  Don't forget to mention you got a medal.
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Post by: antelope19 on December 06, 2010, 02:30:11 PM
It doubles as a bottle opener!   :-D

One of the sponsors of the race was Sam Adams. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on January 07, 2011, 06:51:45 PM
time to bump this one back up.

got a gortex running jacket this fall at a pre-season blow out. I was very happy I had it this week.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on January 07, 2011, 06:56:29 PM
Finally getting back into the swing of things.  Been running at the gym though as the weather has been a little unaccommodating as of late.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on January 07, 2011, 08:36:45 PM
Started training for the LI full in May.
Also put in for the NYC lottery again.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on January 07, 2011, 08:38:56 PM
Nike challenge anyone?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on January 07, 2011, 08:44:04 PM
Nike challenge anyone?

Related note...
Do you always get FB cheers with your GPS?
I've lost two runs so far and have yet to receive a cheer mid run.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on January 07, 2011, 08:47:35 PM
 Nike+ GPS was killing my data usage, so I switched back to the chip.

Plus I'm in full-on training mode so lots of indoor treadmill sprints these days.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on January 07, 2011, 08:51:22 PM
The hell?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on January 07, 2011, 08:53:17 PM
I'm working on a sub-40 10K, end of May.

Lots of speedwork and yoga.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on February 07, 2011, 08:56:32 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12375646 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12375646)

A marathon every day for a year, no biggie.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on February 07, 2011, 09:30:59 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12375646 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12375646)

A marathon every day for a year, no biggie.
That is insane, not to mention this part:
Quote
Engels suffered from asthma as a child and had been told by doctors to avoid sport.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on March 10, 2011, 05:01:29 PM
well in the past month ive been doing 5k pretty much daily (and as of this week started breaking 4mi easy) I would love to make an announcement.
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQUDodN_hYFVjxn0oag8m4lAXfjbiH1WLiwP6KW4TD9Q1RaPqwx)

 IM BACK BABY, IM BACK!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on March 10, 2011, 05:03:22 PM

Congrats?!

I recently beat my Treadmill 10K personal best.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on March 10, 2011, 07:47:48 PM
the 1st nike+ I had stopped working after about a month. the second one I had was grossly inaccurate (probably the 1st was too). I tried to calibrate it on a track - ran 12 x 400 between 2:00 and 2:05 per lap - it said the run was not usable for calibration. returned it, never to be purchased again.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on March 10, 2011, 07:49:50 PM
In the summer they are releasing a GPS Nike+ Sports band - I have my iPhone calibrated to 10K on the treadmill and when I run outside my Sportband is calibrated to MapMyRun.com distances, so things are pretty accurate I think.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on March 10, 2011, 07:55:44 PM
I'll think I'lll just stick to the old fashioned way and guestimate. When I really need to know pace, I can go to the track down the block.
I guess a major advantage is being able to figure out pace during a race before the end of mile 1 - (how far apart do they separate the distance markers in Canada during races?), but I'll survive.

good luck on that 10K. Sub 40 is pretty freakin fast
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on March 10, 2011, 08:00:54 PM

Distance markers are in kilometers.

I figure for that 10K I won't even try to keep a pace, I'll just go as hard as I can for 40 minutes and hope it's enough.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on March 10, 2011, 08:19:07 PM
Good luck in that. 

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on March 10, 2011, 08:37:25 PM

Distance markers are in kilometers.

I figure for that 10K I won't even try to keep a pace, I'll just go as hard as I can for 40 minutes and hope it's enough.

I figured that - is every km marked?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on March 10, 2011, 08:38:24 PM
Yes, every km is marked - same goes for the marathons and half-marathons.

It's the first Sunday in May so I have about 6 weeks of training still.  I'm still working on the perfect playlist for the run which ideally has the climax of Antelope at around 39 minutes.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on March 10, 2011, 08:54:15 PM
good choice
I don't run with my ipod, but whenever I race, Antelope is always playing in the car on the way
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on March 11, 2011, 01:18:52 AM
Well I haven't really made this whole thing too personal, but thought I'd give my back story here for anyone that cares.
I've always been a big dude. In high school I played football, but then really didn't do too much at all, and just got really fat and lazy. It sucks, but it's what I did. I would eat just to eat. Not even emotional eating, or maybe it was? Who knows. I ballooned up to 330 lbs at one point in my life. The biggest I've ever been. It was horrible, and I decided to cut.
I decided I wanted to be a runner. I couldn't even run for a minute straight when I started. It was horrible. I tried the "Couch to 5k" plan. Kind of worked, kind of didn't. I'll never forget the day I decided... I'm just going to try running for 5 minutes straight, and how I felt when I completed this. It was on from this time forward. I cut down to 223lbs (my skinniest ever) and ran the Dam to Dam 20k in Des Moines Iowa in June of 2009 for the first time in my life. I ran 12.4 miles without stopping. I didn't run it fast, and I probably never will, but I finished. I ran it again in 2010, then really hurt my back early in the summer.
I lost my focus, and my runs became "a couple a week" to "once a week" to "Once every 2". It was horrible. I used the back pain as an excuse, and let myself gain about 40lbs back. So @260lbs I decided "this isn't happening again", and started. Slow, but I got back on the wagon. I'm finally running 5-6 days a week again, and definitely on top of hitting the gym as well. Already cut 16lbs, and working on the rest by June.
So, even though I'm not nearly as fast as most of you, it feels good to be back. :) (or at least on my way)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on March 13, 2011, 08:42:30 PM
 :clap:

the most important thing is being out there and doing it
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on March 20, 2011, 10:19:51 AM
Glad you're back on the road to being healthy John. I've been stuck not running a whole lot, just a day or 2 a week right now since baby #3 was born. Ran a couple 5K's last fall that went much better than I expected, but I've gone downhill since then. Once my youngest kiddo can start hanging out at the YMCA I can get back out and start putting in more miles. I was thinking about doing the 1/2 in St. Louis (April), but the last 2 months have shot that plan and I'm glad I hadn't signed up too far in advance. It's looking like my next half will be sometime this fall, and if it goes well, I'll consider trying out a full again. Anybody read "Born To Run"? I'm not quite finished with it yet, but it's changed my perspective as a runner & healthcare professional. Definitely recommend it.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 02, 2011, 11:33:29 AM
for those of you in the Boston Area, this is always a good time.
register soon, it sells out.


http://www.baevents.com/garcia/index.html

Jerry Garcia Memoria Road Race
4.2 m
party after with bbq chicken, Harpoon on Tap, and Playin' Dead
(all included in race fee)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on April 02, 2011, 11:41:23 AM
for those of you in the Boston Area, this is always a good time.
register soon, it sells out.


http://www.baevents.com/garcia/index.html

Jerry Garcia Memoria Road Race
4.2 m
party after with bbq chicken, Harpoon on Tap, and Playin' Dead
(all included in race fee)
I'll be registering again this year.

also a warning, these races have been selling out by May the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 02, 2011, 04:10:41 PM
yea, last year I got shut out. ran it for about 4 years or so before that

mailed my registration in today.
I'll look for you when the time comes
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on April 03, 2011, 09:00:55 PM
!LAST MINUTE NOTICE!

--> 'Paug runners and volunteers get free water and bragging rights!

Otter Creek Mud Run

Celebrate Vermont's 5th season--mud. Run 5k on unmaintained seasonal walking trails this April.

Next Sunday, April 10th, 2011. Registration, start and finish at Middlebury Natural Foods Co-op (outside), Middlebury, VT. [PM sunrisevt  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard ]

Proceeds benefit Otter Creek Child Center.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 04, 2011, 08:16:36 AM
So my training was going really well, then I took a week off when we went to Europe... went for 2 runs, then got sick and missed ~ 10 days.

I'm feeling like I lost a few steps over the past 3 weeks, but I have about a month to push really hard and get to where I need to be for this 10K on the first Sunday in May.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 04, 2011, 08:42:35 AM
I took about a month off as I was getting ready to come to Ethiopia and then hadn't run at all since I got here.  I decided to get out again and with the altitude, polution and dust, I just about killed myself.  I went out again today and slowed down my pace considerably with much better results.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 04, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
hope your not trying to keep up with the locals
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 05, 2011, 05:38:29 AM
hope your not trying to keep up with the locals
You referring to Bikila Abebe?
(http://www.trendyshoeshop.com/images/barefoot_1960_olympics.jpg)
 :-D
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on April 05, 2011, 08:59:13 AM
!LAST MINUTE NOTICE!

--> 'Paug runners and volunteers get free water and bragging rights!

Otter Creek Mud Run

Celebrate Vermont's 5th season--mud. Run 5k on unmaintained seasonal walking trails this April.

Next Sunday, April 10th, 2011. Registration, start and finish at Middlebury Natural Foods Co-op (outside), Middlebury, VT. [PM sunrisevt  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard ]

Proceeds benefit Otter Creek Child Center.

its too bad its 6hrs away.  I would love this.  but speaking of bragging i feel like it, the other day I did my first non stop 6mi (10k) loop in just under 50min.  Im pretty impressed with myself.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on April 05, 2011, 09:28:50 AM
 :clap: You should be, Chris.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 08, 2011, 01:37:37 AM
:clap: You should be, Chris.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 08, 2011, 10:44:38 AM
:clap: You should be, Chris.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 15, 2011, 01:04:24 PM

BOOM!  Level Purple!  2500km on Nike+

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 15, 2011, 01:48:38 PM

BOOM!  Level Purple!  2500km on Nike+
Damn!  And how long did that take ya?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 15, 2011, 01:51:58 PM

I started on Nike+ sometime in late 2008 and I used it for most of the Spring that year - then while training for my first marathon I didn't use it all that much.

When they introduced the Sportsband late in '09 I started up again, and have been pretty consistant using it in 2010/2011.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 15, 2011, 02:12:07 PM
Nice  :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: MiamiPhish on May 02, 2011, 01:43:27 PM
Hope our runners are still going strong despite Summer's arrival (for some of us anyway.)  I'm about to go on a 5-miler or so along the Hawthorne Trail here in Gainesville.

http://www.dep.state.fl.us/gwt/guide/regions/north/trails/gainesville_hawth.htm
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: iamhydroJen on May 02, 2011, 01:48:38 PM
I have pretty bad knees, but would like to ease back into running again.  Any suggestions for getting back into running?  I have been cycling (30 min) instead and then running for like 10-15 minutes afterwards, but don't know if that's a good routine.  My goal is to at least run one 5k with ease this summer.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: phil on May 02, 2011, 02:19:12 PM
I have pretty bad knees, but would like to ease back into running again.  Any suggestions for getting back into running?  I have been cycling (30 min) instead and then running for like 10-15 minutes afterwards, but don't know if that's a good routine.  My goal is to at least run one 5k with ease this summer.

Biking to warm up is a good idea, that's how I got back into it about a month and a half ago. My problem is my hip flexors, but I'm in the same boat (basically if I don't warm up on the bike and then stretch, I'm done after about one mile) and the stationary bike has been the most convenient and effective way for me to do that.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on May 02, 2011, 02:33:44 PM
I have a 4.2 miler and a 5 miler coming at the end of the month.
mainly because I suck, but I only do it for enjoyment as opposed to competition.

I picked up a nasty cold this weekend which means I will be off the streets for the next few days at least, if not the whole week.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on May 02, 2011, 02:48:39 PM
Just wanna congratulate my brother (Bunkster) for finishing his first marathon yesterday.
After getting pretty damn disgusting at our gig the night before, the dude rolled up and took down the LI Marathon.
Congrats, J.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 02, 2011, 03:24:06 PM

Time?

My free race entry into the 10k this weekend fell through so I skipped the event entirely.  $75 to run a 10K is a fuckin rip off.

I'm debating switching from my ultra padded, cushioned, support Asics to the Nike Free 11s.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on May 02, 2011, 03:26:56 PM

Time?

5:25

Dude's about 255.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on May 02, 2011, 03:28:01 PM
Just wanna congratulate my brother (Bunkster) for finishing his first marathon yesterday.
After getting pretty damn disgusting at our gig the night before, the dude rolled up and took down the LI Marathon.

Congrats, J.
Wow, nice job.  I can't imagine pulling a marathon off, let alone after a night of partying.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 02, 2011, 03:32:45 PM

Dudes.... Triathlons are the new Marathons
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: MiamiPhish on May 02, 2011, 03:33:31 PM
I have pretty bad knees, but would like to ease back into running again.  Any suggestions for getting back into running?  I have been cycling (30 min) instead and then running for like 10-15 minutes afterwards, but don't know if that's a good routine.  My goal is to at least run one 5k with ease this summer.

How many times a week are you at it?

That sounds like a pretty good routine, if it's not hurting you.  If anything, I'd say that might be overkill if you're trying to ease into it, for the sake of avoiding injury of course.

If 30 mins bike / 10-15 run is feeling good, then try to *slowly* decrease biking and increase running, for instance, 25 mins bike / 15 mins running for a week and see how that feels.  Give it a week, minimum, and see how you're feeling after that week.

The other thing I'd say is try running on surfaces that give, even a little bit.  Sand, trails, track, grass... those will all help your muscles get stronger without the tough impact that asphalt and concrete deliver.

Let us know how it goes / is going.
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Post by: MiamiPhish on May 02, 2011, 03:35:05 PM
Just wanna congratulate my brother (Bunkster) for finishing his first marathon yesterday.
After getting pretty damn disgusting at our gig the night before, the dude rolled up and took down the LI Marathon.

Congrats, J.
Wow, nice job.  I can't imagine pulling a marathon off, let alone after a night of partying.

As you shouldn't.  Dude's either been training long and hard or is just asking for an injury.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 02, 2011, 05:00:09 PM
Just wanna congratulate my brother (Bunkster) for finishing his first marathon yesterday.
After getting pretty damn disgusting at our gig the night before, the dude rolled up and took down the LI Marathon.
Congrats, J.
congrats
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: hoodie22 on May 02, 2011, 05:07:43 PM
Just wanna congratulate my brother (Bunkster) for finishing his first marathon yesterday.
After getting pretty damn disgusting at our gig the night before, the dude rolled up and took down the LI Marathon.
Congrats, J.

If anyone could do it, its that guy, way to go JJ! (Although I have the feeling that that kind of tenacity to get up and run a marathon after night of epic drinking runs in the family, a challenge perhaps?)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on May 02, 2011, 05:11:17 PM
Just wanna congratulate my brother (Bunkster) for finishing his first marathon yesterday.
After getting pretty damn disgusting at our gig the night before, the dude rolled up and took down the LI Marathon.
Congrats, J.

If anyone could do it, its that guy, way to go JJ! (Although I have the feeling that that kind of tenacity to get up and run a marathon after night of epic drinking runs in the family, a challenge perhaps?)

Maybe next year....
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Post by: justjezmund on May 02, 2011, 07:09:03 PM
Just wanna congratulate my brother (Bunkster) for finishing his first marathon yesterday.
After getting pretty damn disgusting at our gig the night before, the dude rolled up and took down the LI Marathon.

Congrats, J.
Wow, nice job.  I can't imagine pulling a marathon off, let alone after a night of partying.

As you shouldn't.  Dude's either been training long and hard or is just asking for an injury.

Nah he's just bad ass.

 congrats lurker of lurks.
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Post by: phil on May 17, 2011, 11:43:27 AM
Anyone know anything about shin splints? My shins have been killing me for like a week, wondering if anyone has any advice. Not sure if it's because I run on hard surfaces or if I've been overdoing it lately (I recently started running 2mi in the AM and 2 in the PM, up from just 2 a day about two weeks ago). Anything I can do besides ice/take advil?
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Post by: mattstick on May 17, 2011, 12:24:13 PM
R.I.C.E. Shin Splints Treatment #1: Rest
As obvious as this step sounds, it takes discipline to rest in our busy lives but it is necessary in order for shin splints treatment to really work. Depending on the severity of the shin splints and duration of shin splints treatment needed, it may be advisable to take time off from work or other activities during shin splints treatment so that the shin splints can have time to heal. Shin splints treatment requires patience, because it can take a considerable amount of time to recover.

R.I.C.E. Shin Splints Treatment #2: Ice
Ice is a shin splints sufferer’s best friend, because it numbs the pain. Shin splints treatment takes time and it is painful, and ice can alleviate a lot of the agony. It also helps swelling go down. Reusable ice packs can be purchased that have gel in them, and they are highly effective for shin splints treatment. When the gel is frozen, it acts as ice but does not melt away. Simply refreeze the gel pack after each use, and make sure to have some handy that are frozen for when you need them most for shin splints treatment.

R.I.C.E. Shin Splints Treatment #3: Compression
Shin splints treatment also includes compression, which involves wrapping the lower leg. Counter pressure is a great pain reliever during the shin splints treatment process, and can be very soothing. Special leg wraps can be purchased that can be used to relieve pain and protect the leg during shin splints treatment.

R.I.C.E. Shin Splints Treatment #4: Elevation
Elevation is important during shin splints treatment so that blood flows properly to the legs. This shin splints treatment is also effective because it keeps unecessary weight off of the affected legs. While elevating the leg and resting, take the opportunity to read about preventative shin splints treatment so that you are better prepared to protect yourself next time.

Also, make sure you are in the right shoes - talk to an expert.

If you run on the street, the roads can be sloped, try to run on opposite sides of the road when you're on the way back or the second half of your route, etc.
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Post by: slslbs on May 17, 2011, 12:31:36 PM
what he said

also
- stretch your calves
-don't overdo it, as enthusiastic as you are
-look at your mechanics - are your shoes right for you? are you a pronator who needs orthotics (I am - until I got mine I always had shin splints. orthotics saved my life.
-if they recur, definitely see a podiatrist who will help you sort out the above
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: phil on May 17, 2011, 08:16:42 PM
^^Thanks dudes. Any idea if it would be a bad idea for me to ride the stationary bike instead of running for ~week or so? I have mad ADD and if I don't get some form of exercise every day I'll be completely unable to focus on anything.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 17, 2011, 08:25:19 PM

Should be fine. 

I find that a lot of runners don't appreciate the value of strength workouts with weights.  Your running will improve if you start lifting weights.  Improving your back and core strength helps a lot too.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 17, 2011, 08:26:43 PM
not at all. it's a great idea as long as it doesn't aggravate your injury (which it shouldn't)
my 1st marathon I was sidelined for a month with plantar fascitis. I got on a stationary bike (including my long "runs") and it kept me in shape.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: phil on May 17, 2011, 08:32:13 PM
Yeah I generally also play racquetball and lift every day too but I find that even if I do those and don't run I'm mad fidgety and can't focus on anything (which is no bueno because I'm currently smack in the middle of my finals). Thanks again for the advice.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on May 17, 2011, 09:00:31 PM
Can anyone shed some good treatment tips for calf strain. I've done some research and laid off at points, giving my leg rest to a poin that feels fine only to have it return after doing some real distance.  It's really only started a lot when I started running "barefoot", is minimalistic running all it's cracked up to be?

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on May 25, 2011, 08:07:21 AM
For those of you that don't check the iPhone thread, the Nike + app is free right now for a limited time.
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Post by: Play_It_Leo on May 30, 2011, 12:19:53 AM
^^Thanks dudes. Any idea if it would be a bad idea for me to ride the stationary bike instead of running for ~week or so? I have mad ADD and if I don't get some form of exercise every day I'll be completely unable to focus on anything.

A lot of times, shin splints can be a sign of significant weakness of the muscles that support your arch. Doing heel raises and some short spurts of backward jogging are simple ways to strengthen these muscles. Hope you're doing better.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: phil on May 30, 2011, 08:42:34 AM
^^Thanks dudes. Any idea if it would be a bad idea for me to ride the stationary bike instead of running for ~week or so? I have mad ADD and if I don't get some form of exercise every day I'll be completely unable to focus on anything.

A lot of times, shin splints can be a sign of significant weakness of the muscles that support your arch. Doing heel raises and some short spurts of backward jogging are simple ways to strengthen these muscles. Hope you're doing better.

Thanks man, I've taken about the last week and not run, just focused on lifting weights and lower body strengthening exercises like you said. I hadn't thought to jog backwards but I might give that a go this afternoon
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: MiamiPhish on May 30, 2011, 09:37:58 AM
Phil,

If I were you, I'd take a look at your mechanics and make sure you're running properly.  Youtube videos should be an aid here, but ideally you'd like to be landing on your forefoot rather than midfoot or heels, back straight with a slight forward lean.  I was having this problem when I started running seriously.

If you're landing on your heels or midfoot, the shock of the foot strike may very well be being absorbed by your bones (shins!) rather than your muscles.  That was a big revelation for me.  It took some practice to get comfortable running on my forefoot, but once I did it was like I had removed a brake from my legs that I didn't know I had.  My shins haven't hurt since, and I've been able to gradually increase distance without any pain or discomfort.

You probably don't want to double your miles per day in one fell swoop, as a guideline.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on May 30, 2011, 11:48:52 AM
Getting ready for a 20K this weekend.
This will be my 3rd time running it.
damtodam(dot)com if anyone is interested in checking it out! Pretty cool race.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on May 30, 2011, 02:32:24 PM
Getting ready for a 20K this weekend.
This will be my 3rd time running it.
damtodam(dot)com if anyone is interested in checking it out! Pretty cool race.

Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.

And here's a youtube link and some further reading & video analysis for those interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo)

http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/ (http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on May 30, 2011, 02:52:02 PM
Phil,
How old are your shoes?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 30, 2011, 03:17:11 PM
Can anyone shed some good treatment tips for calf strain. I've done some research and laid off at points, giving my leg rest to a poin that feels fine only to have it return after doing some real distance.  It's really only started a lot when I started running "barefoot", is minimalistic running all it's cracked up to be?

Be careful, you might have the beginnings of a stress fracture as opposed to calf strain.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: phil on May 30, 2011, 05:41:26 PM
Phil,
How old are your shoes?

Fairly new, I got them over thanksgiving

Nike Trainer 1.2 (http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/?l=shop,pdp,ctr-inline/cid-1/pid-317745/pgid-316037)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: MiamiPhish on May 30, 2011, 05:46:28 PM
Should last ~500 miles.  If you're running a good amount, you're probably due for a new pair.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on May 30, 2011, 05:46:48 PM
Can anyone shed some good treatment tips for calf strain. I've done some research and laid off at points, giving my leg rest to a poin that feels fine only to have it return after doing some real distance.  It's really only started a lot when I started running "barefoot", is minimalistic running all it's cracked up to be?

Be careful, you might have the beginnings of a stress fracture as opposed to calf strain.

its gone away again, but i am going to get an xray anyway soon since i recently hurt my opposite knee.  Thanks though cause I def am looking for any input. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 30, 2011, 10:45:49 PM
Getting ready for a 20K this weekend.
This will be my 3rd time running it.
damtodam(dot)com if anyone is interested in checking it out! Pretty cool race.

Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.

And here's a youtube link and some further reading & video analysis for those interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo)

http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/ (http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/)

thanks - I've been thinking about this for a while.
I'm a very flat-footed pronator. If it wasn't for orthtotics, I couldn't walk, let alone run. I'm curious to know how this would work for people like me.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on May 31, 2011, 08:22:58 AM
Getting ready for a 20K this weekend.
This will be my 3rd time running it.
damtodam(dot)com if anyone is interested in checking it out! Pretty cool race.

Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.

And here's a youtube link and some further reading & video analysis for those interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo)

http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/ (http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/)

thanks - I've been thinking about this for a while.
I'm a very flat-footed pronator. If it wasn't for orthtotics, I couldn't walk, let alone run. I'm curious to know how this would work for people like me.

Steve, I'm not sure if there's a point where your feet are "too far gone" to do this. All the muscles that support your foot are still there, so I would imagine it would just take you a while to build up the proper strength.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on May 31, 2011, 09:18:36 AM
Getting ready for a 20K this weekend.
This will be my 3rd time running it.
damtodam(dot)com if anyone is interested in checking it out! Pretty cool race.

Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.

And here's a youtube link and some further reading & video analysis for those interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo)

http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/ (http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/)

thanks - I've been thinking about this for a while.
I'm a very flat-footed pronator. If it wasn't for orthtotics, I couldn't walk, let alone run. I'm curious to know how this would work for people like me.

Steve, I'm not sure if there's a point where your feet are "too far gone" to do this. All the muscles that support your foot are still there, so I would imagine it would just take you a while to build up the proper strength.
It's interesting for sure. I am also a flat footed pronator, but maybe not to that level. I wear the Saucony Hurricane, and it's about the best shoe I've found for my running style. I've tried numerous options from Asics to New Balance, and an Under Armour in there as well. The concept of barefoot running sounds very cool to me, but I've wondered how I would do.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 31, 2011, 04:06:05 PM
Getting ready for a 20K this weekend.
This will be my 3rd time running it.
damtodam(dot)com if anyone is interested in checking it out! Pretty cool race.

Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.

And here's a youtube link and some further reading & video analysis for those interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo)

http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/ (http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/)

thanks - I've been thinking about this for a while.
I'm a very flat-footed pronator. If it wasn't for orthtotics, I couldn't walk, let alone run. I'm curious to know how this would work for people like me.

Steve, I'm not sure if there's a point where your feet are "too far gone" to do this. All the muscles that support your foot are still there, so I would imagine it would just take you a while to build up the proper strength.
It's interesting for sure. I am also a flat footed pronator, but maybe not to that level. I wear the Saucony Hurricane, and it's about the best shoe I've found for my running style. I've tried numerous options from Asics to New Balance, and an Under Armour in there as well. The concept of barefoot running sounds very cool to me, but I've wondered how I would do.

I'm not worried about being "too far gone". My feet were flat ever since I remember. Even when I was a kid, when I walked out of a pool, you see my entire footprint.
I'm just curious about the bio-mechanics of it all and how it would work for people like me.
I haven't had a chance to read about it yet. Hopefully this week.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on May 31, 2011, 04:10:10 PM
Gotcha. Good luck, there's plenty of info out there if you look around enough.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: khalpin on June 03, 2011, 08:06:03 AM
Running in my first 5K tomorrow.  Hoping to make it to the finish!
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Post by: aphineday on June 03, 2011, 10:24:02 AM
Running in my first 5K tomorrow.  Hoping to make it to the finish!
Good luck! Let us know how it goes. You'll probably become addicted ;)

My 20k starts so early. Wait, moving to Today I Hate thread.
Fuck 5AM load time.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on June 03, 2011, 07:49:34 PM
good luck!

5AM - wow. hope they serve coffee at the start
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: khalpin on June 04, 2011, 11:55:07 AM
Running in my first 5K tomorrow.  Hoping to make it to the finish!
I actually enjoyed it quite a bit and can definitely see myself doing it again.  Finished at 26:20. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: MiamiPhish on June 04, 2011, 12:38:07 PM
I actually enjoyed it quite a bit and can definitely see myself doing it again.  Finished at 26:20.

Awesome, dude.  Keep up the running!
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Post by: mattstick on June 04, 2011, 12:47:28 PM
Good time, 10k next?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on June 04, 2011, 03:42:33 PM
20K done! I'm way slow, but I finished nonetheless.
2:32 Minutes / 12min miles. I'll get there...
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on June 04, 2011, 11:25:40 PM
strong work khalpin and aphineday
 :beerbang:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on June 04, 2011, 11:48:17 PM
strong work khalpin and aphineday
 :beerbang:

Congrats guys, nice job!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on June 08, 2011, 01:18:16 AM
IM SO THERE!!

http://www.superballix.com/runawayjim5k.html


Quote
I love the smell of motor oil in the morning. Eight years after the last race in Limestone, Maine, The 101st Running of the First Annual Runaway Jim Memorial 5k Road Race will curve around the speedway on Saturday morning at 11:15am sharp. It's technically 5.5 kilometers, 3.4 miles, but we know you're serious and want to give this race 110%. Drug testing will not take place before and after the race.

Officially registered runners will receive a numbered race bib for official timing. We encourage runners to pre-register online as only limited registration may be available at Watkins Glen. If you're not registered, have no fear -- runners who are not registered may run at the end of the pack behind the Official Runners. Trophies will be awarded to the fastest Male, Female, and cheetah, and the 2nd and 3rd place finisher over all.

The course race will be shown on the venue map you receive when you arrive at Super Ball IX. Runners will be running on pavement not grass.

The Runaway Jim Memorial 5k Road Race Registration Table (providing Numbered Bib pick up, General Race Information and Course Maps) will be open on Friday from Noon-8pm at the ReCharge Lounge in the back of the concert field and on Saturday morning beginning at 9:00am at the Pit Stop across from the yellow and red grandstands, which is also the starting and finishing point of the race.

Race entry is free to all ticket holders. Pre-Registration is ONLY available online through JUNE 30TH at NOON. Pre-registration is limited so sign up now by sending your name, email address, cell number to 5k@superballix.com.


Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on June 08, 2011, 01:40:35 AM
IM SO THERE!!

http://www.superballix.com/runawayjim5k.html


Quote
I love the smell of motor oil in the morning. Eight years after the last race in Limestone, Maine, The 101st Running of the First Annual Runaway Jim Memorial 5k Road Race will curve around the speedway on Saturday morning at 11:15am sharp. It's technically 5.5 kilometers, 3.4 miles, but we know you're serious and want to give this race 110%. Drug testing will not take place before and after the race.

Officially registered runners will receive a numbered race bib for official timing. We encourage runners to pre-register online as only limited registration may be available at Watkins Glen. If you're not registered, have no fear -- runners who are not registered may run at the end of the pack behind the Official Runners. Trophies will be awarded to the fastest Male, Female, and cheetah, and the 2nd and 3rd place finisher over all.

The course race will be shown on the venue map you receive when you arrive at Super Ball IX. Runners will be running on pavement not grass.

The Runaway Jim Memorial 5k Road Race Registration Table (providing Numbered Bib pick up, General Race Information and Course Maps) will be open on Friday from Noon-8pm at the ReCharge Lounge in the back of the concert field and on Saturday morning beginning at 9:00am at the Pit Stop across from the yellow and red grandstands, which is also the starting and finishing point of the race.

Race entry is free to all ticket holders. Pre-Registration is ONLY available online through JUNE 30TH at NOON. Pre-registration is limited so sign up now by sending your name, email address, cell number to 5k@superballix.com.



Already registered ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mbw on July 01, 2011, 07:34:02 PM
IM SO THERE!!

http://www.superballix.com/runawayjim5k.html


Quote
I love the smell of motor oil in the morning. Eight years after the last race in Limestone, Maine, The 101st Running of the First Annual Runaway Jim Memorial 5k Road Race will curve around the speedway on Saturday morning at 11:15am sharp. It's technically 5.5 kilometers, 3.4 miles, but we know you're serious and want to give this race 110%. Drug testing will not take place before and after the race.

Officially registered runners will receive a numbered race bib for official timing. We encourage runners to pre-register online as only limited registration may be available at Watkins Glen. If you're not registered, have no fear -- runners who are not registered may run at the end of the pack behind the Official Runners. Trophies will be awarded to the fastest Male, Female, and cheetah, and the 2nd and 3rd place finisher over all.

The course race will be shown on the venue map you receive when you arrive at Super Ball IX. Runners will be running on pavement not grass.

The Runaway Jim Memorial 5k Road Race Registration Table (providing Numbered Bib pick up, General Race Information and Course Maps) will be open on Friday from Noon-8pm at the ReCharge Lounge in the back of the concert field and on Saturday morning beginning at 9:00am at the Pit Stop across from the yellow and red grandstands, which is also the starting and finishing point of the race.

Race entry is free to all ticket holders. Pre-Registration is ONLY available online through JUNE 30TH at NOON. Pre-registration is limited so sign up now by sending your name, email address, cell number to 5k@superballix.com.



Already registered ;)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/261293_10150220558801290_6458611289_7621315_7530_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on July 04, 2011, 07:30:59 PM
partied pretty hard and with no sleep, housin smokes and droogs....

still ran it it 21:43


I am fuckin $UP3R B@!!iN!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on July 04, 2011, 07:32:06 PM
PIMP!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: birdman on July 04, 2011, 08:36:37 PM
partied pretty hard and with no sleep, housin smokes and droogs....

still ran it it 21:43


I am fuckin $UP3R B@!!iN!

So he says. No one saw him running, no record of finishing.
I say it never happened.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on July 04, 2011, 08:42:10 PM
partied pretty hard and with no sleep, housin smokes and droogs....

still ran it it 21:43


I am fuckin $UP3R B@!!iN!
My fat ass wasn't nearly as fast, but at least I finished. 32:21.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: MiamiPhish on July 27, 2011, 06:04:06 PM
Hey all - I started a blog (as a project in lieu of thesis for my master's program) about running, particularly in Gainesville, FL.  Posted today about tips for running during the summer.

Cheers!
http://rungainesville.wordpress.com
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on July 29, 2011, 03:26:49 PM
10th annual Jerry Garcia memorial run last night.
4.2m  28:40 (2nd in age) followed by grilled chicken dinner, beers, and dancing to Playin' Dead till about 11:30
can't wait until next year's race..

funny thing is - even though I'm tired as shit today (home at 12:30, up at 6:30) my legs feel great. Seems like dancing 2 - 3 hrs after a race is a great recovery method
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: barnesy305 on July 29, 2011, 07:47:04 PM
10th annual Jerry Garcia memorial run last night.
4.2m  28:40 (2nd in age) followed by grilled chicken dinner, beers, and dancing to Playin' Dead till about 11:30
can't wait until next year's race..

funny thing is - even though I'm tired as shit today (home at 12:30, up at 6:30) my legs feel great. Seems like dancing 2 - 3 hrs after a race is a great recovery method

An extended time stretching technique, sounds like it would be effective, well done!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: shoreline99 on September 09, 2011, 10:51:22 AM
Any recommendations for a good armband holder for the ipod touch? I've been using my ipod shuffle but the kids have lost it.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: phil on September 10, 2011, 10:16:02 PM
Any recommendations for a good armband holder for the ipod touch? I've been using my ipod shuffle but the kids have lost it.

Griffin makes a good one. Called Aerosport I think? I use the ipod classic version and it rocks
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 24, 2011, 01:34:13 PM
anyone else race this AM?
did the Feaster 5 (5m, 35:46).
great way to start a day of too much eating.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: phil on November 24, 2011, 05:38:17 PM
Ran my first 5k last Saturday, finished in 28:12. Pretty good considering what a hung over mess I was.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 24, 2011, 08:07:17 PM
good work, congrats
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 26, 2011, 10:30:29 AM
My wife is running a 5 km this morning for Movember.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 26, 2011, 02:23:50 PM
cool
if the weather in your parts is anything at all like here, it should be a perfect day.


I was gonna enter a movember 'stache contest but figured it wouldn't be fair  :wink:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 26, 2011, 03:29:50 PM
cool
if the weather in your parts is anything at all like here, it should be a perfect day.


I was gonna enter a movember 'stache contest but figured it wouldn't be fair  :wink:
Yeah, I'd say you have that one in the bag.  It was about 8 degrees celsius here.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Tomapella on January 25, 2012, 02:33:13 PM
So I've been putting on a bit of a gut lately as well as feeling depressed and lazy a lot of the time, and I figured starting running would be a great way to combat all of these things.  I went for the first time this morning before looking up this thread and was feeling beat after 10 minutes, then I looked at Mattstick's first post and I guess that's a good place to start.  I do need some new shoes, though.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: EdBanky on January 25, 2012, 03:16:54 PM
So I've been putting on a bit of a gut lately as well as feeling depressed and lazy a lot of the time, and I figured starting running would be a great way to combat all of these things.  I went for the first time this morning before looking up this thread and was feeling beat after 10 minutes, then I looked at Mattstick's first post and I guess that's a good place to start.  I do need some new shoes, though.
Just don't over-do when you go out. A bad experience can make you real lazzzzy.

:phish:+running=greatness
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on February 07, 2012, 06:58:12 PM
Getting back into it! I've run 5 miles 3 times a week for the last 3 weeks! Need to get back in shape!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2012, 08:58:45 PM
Getting back into it! I've run 5 miles 3 times a week for the last 3 weeks! Need to get back in shape!

Nice!
Don't stop!

Just started my LI marathon training two weeks ago.
Stoked to be back.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on February 07, 2012, 09:04:33 PM
Yeah, I need to sign up for a race for that extra motivation.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on February 07, 2012, 09:06:01 PM
Yeah, I need to sign up for a race for that extra motivation.

Always helps.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: whatapiper on March 17, 2012, 08:32:20 PM
Got another 12k coming up and need some mixes!  Anyone have some to share? I know Mattstick had some mixes up at some point???

Trying to beat my previous 12k time to bring it under 50 minutes.  Looking at doing a half marathon next here eventually. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on April 16, 2012, 03:38:06 PM
New Running shoes bump!

I got a pair of Saucony hurricane 14's for my birthday.  I had forgotten how nice it is to have new running shoes(I was LONG overdue).  It's like running on pillows! 

Also, does anyone else use the map my run app?  I love it!  It tracks your route, tells you how far you've gone and how fast you're going.  I'm currently averaging around 9:15 mile.  Pretty slow, but I'm not trying to kill myself yet. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 16, 2012, 04:33:46 PM

I bought a Nike+ SportWatch GPS, then I started riding my bike to work everyday and only run on the weekends...

http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikeplus/en_US/products/sportwatch_pdp?pid=406329

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on April 16, 2012, 04:43:29 PM

I bought a Nike+ SportWatch GPS, then I started riding my bike to work everyday and only run on the weekends...

http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikeplus/en_US/products/sportwatch_pdp?pid=406329

Nice!  Sharp looking watch
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 16, 2012, 05:49:41 PM
New Running shoes bump!

I got a pair of Saucony hurricane 14's for my birthday.  I had forgotten how nice it is to have new running shoes(I was LONG overdue).  It's like running on pillows! 

Also, does anyone else use the map my run app?  I love it!  It tracks your route, tells you how far you've gone and how fast you're going.  I'm currently averaging around 9:15 mile.  Pretty slow, but I'm not trying to kill myself yet.
I've used the web site to map out courses and distances but not the app itself. I should try it.

btw, this was NOT a great day for a marathon. I ran 8 yesterday and was quite warm.
+k to all the runners and volunteers
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Lifeboy on April 16, 2012, 07:23:49 PM

I bought a Nike+ SportWatch GPS, then I started riding my bike to work everyday and only run on the weekends...

http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikeplus/en_US/products/sportwatch_pdp?pid=406329

What kind of bike do you have?

My buddy and I used to be cycling fanatics. His older brother is a semi-pro (?) cyclist, so he got us into it. I really need to get back into cycling.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on April 18, 2012, 11:15:52 AM
I've stopped enjoying the occasional beer Monday-Thursday in hopes of speeding up the process of getting back in shape too.  Totally not worth it.   :roll:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on July 27, 2012, 02:15:22 PM
time to bump this one.
the Annual Jerry Garcia Memorial Run last night.
5K - gun 21:58, net 21:13

followed by 2 hours of Harpoon on tap and dancing to Playin' Dead.

good times
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on October 01, 2012, 05:07:33 PM
Bump.

Anyone doing any races this fall?  thinking about signing up for a half.........
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 01, 2012, 05:10:43 PM
thanksgiving - choice of 5K vs 5m
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on October 06, 2012, 11:45:57 AM
Heading to the Portland Marathon tomorrow to check it out.  Should be cool.  I was a fairly serious cyclist (3-4K miles/year) for the last few years but had to move out of my house for  re-model 6 months ago and all my gear has just gotten spread around.  Could never even run for a full two minutes without my back just becoming crippled for days.  Running just felt weird and I was never even remotely attracted to it.  After I lost my exercise outlet (cycling), I though I would give running a try.  Tat was back in May, and I did the Couch to 5K because I was afraid my back would just quit on me.  That is a super slow program, it takes 8 weeks to get up to 5K, but that's what worked for me.  It is great having a routine.  I have run every M/W/F since I started that back in May, usually get on the road at 6:30.  I do some weekend runs too (about to head out).  I am fully addicted now.  Longest run is still only 5 miles and my fastest pace is 8:30 but I am not trying to break any records (or my body). 
Anyway, just got totally bit by the bug, was happy to find this forum, I read the whole thread.  What I love about running over cycling is that I put my shoes on and go.  With biking I would have to get my gear together, or inflate my tires or change my tubes or adjust my brakes.  And spend a ton of money on gear.  I bought a nike+ nano and a pair of Gel Nimbus and I was good to go for the most part.  So much more relaxing than all the gear.  And the best part about it is that with running, I can (at this point) get a really good workout in 30-45 minutes (3 or 4 miles plus warmup) and on the road bike I would need to get out for 65 miles (3-4 hours) for a decent workout.  We will see if I can keep my perfect attendance record going as the weather turns here, but as of now, I have never felt better. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 22, 2012, 05:00:13 PM
anyone do any races this AM

Feaster 5, 5K
21:58

now I can have all the turkey, stuffing, and pumpkin pie with a clear conscience
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on November 22, 2012, 05:21:09 PM
anyone do any races this AM

Feaster 5, 5K
21:58

now I can have all the turkey, stuffing, and pumpkin pie with a clear conscience

Was going to do the Turkey Trot at the zoo but ended up sleeping in.  Still got in a good 4 mile run (pace 9:15) which was great because it is a nice dry day here and the weekend is supposed to be wet.  Since my last post, I went to the Portland Marathon and it was pretty rad.  Me and JP and Hick's friend Sarah came in 3rd place for the women at 2:58 which is pretty fast if you ask me.  I was averaging 12-15 miles a week before all the rain came, but I am down to 9-11 miles a week now (3-4 miles three times a week).
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 22, 2012, 08:52:36 PM
as long as your out there doing it.

Quote
Hick's friend Sarah came in 3rd place for the women at 2:58 which is pretty fast if you ask me.
that's a great time (faster than the 5K pace I ran today)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: EdBanky on January 09, 2013, 09:10:48 PM
After constantly running myself in to a wall, no pun intended, I was starting to get really frustrated with my inability to run at least 30 minutes every other day without feeling like dying during my run. So since winter break started I decided to find some things to help get my body and mind feeling good. I started looking around for some low impact workout plans to get myself SLOWLY back in shape without over-doing it. I found this app on my iphone called the 10k runner and I gotta say that it's the best thing that has happened to my body since my travel hockey days. I strongly suggest this to anyone who has a hard time getting past that first initial back-in-the-workout-game workout. The program is supposed to take you from "sitting on the couch" to 5k to 10k and then if you really feel like pushing yourself there is a half-marathon runner after that. The first week is simple. For example, the first day is a 5-minute warm-up walk and then alternating a 1-minute run and walk and 2-minute walk, and then a cool-down walk. It's super easy. I'm five weeks in and I feel great. I just got back from my run tonight and it was a piece of cake. I'm positive there are similar programs on smart-phones as well. CHECK IT FOOLS!

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j82/SANDINISTA15/mzlnehelqmz320x480-75_zps4a04e510.jpg)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on February 20, 2013, 06:38:15 PM
Been training for the Sleepy Hollow half in NY on March 23rd.
Haven't run a sanctioned 13 in a while, so I'm pumped up.
Pretty hilly and scenic, this one is gonna be dope.

My wife and I are making this our "last" extended weekend together before little J comes this Summer.
A few nights in Sleepy Hollow and then shooting over to Mohegan Sun in a fat suite.

This is only the 3rd annual Sleepy half, so hopefully I can make it a tradition.
Pumped.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on February 25, 2013, 05:47:53 PM
sounds like fun
good luck
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on March 23, 2013, 06:04:27 PM
Been training for the Sleepy Hollow half in NY on March 23rd.
Haven't run a sanctioned 13 in a while, so I'm pumped up.
Pretty hilly and scenic, this one is gonna be dope.

My wife and I are making this our "last" extended weekend together before little J comes this Summer.
A few nights in Sleepy Hollow and then shooting over to Mohegan Sun in a fat suite.

This is only the 3rd annual Sleepy half, so hopefully I can make it a tradition.
Pumped.

How'd it go today??
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on March 23, 2013, 06:39:00 PM
Been training for the Sleepy Hollow half in NY on March 23rd.
Haven't run a sanctioned 13 in a while, so I'm pumped up.
Pretty hilly and scenic, this one is gonna be dope.

My wife and I are making this our "last" extended weekend together before little J comes this Summer.
A few nights in Sleepy Hollow and then shooting over to Mohegan Sun in a fat suite.

This is only the 3rd annual Sleepy half, so hopefully I can make it a tradition.
Pumped.

How'd it go today??

Just ok.
Been sidelined for a month with a crack knee, but I rolled up and finished in 2:15.
Ok for zero training in the past month on a really hilly course.
I'm gonna run it next year all proper.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on March 23, 2013, 06:41:15 PM
Been training for the Sleepy Hollow half in NY on March 23rd.
Haven't run a sanctioned 13 in a while, so I'm pumped up.
Pretty hilly and scenic, this one is gonna be dope.

My wife and I are making this our "last" extended weekend together before little J comes this Summer.
A few nights in Sleepy Hollow and then shooting over to Mohegan Sun in a fat suite.

This is only the 3rd annual Sleepy half, so hopefully I can make it a tradition.
Pumped.

How'd it go today??

Just ok.
Been sidelined for a month with a crack knee, but I rolled up and finished in 2:15.
Ok for zero training in the past month on a really hilly course.
I'm gonna run it next year all proper.

Yeah, I'd say you did pretty well considering. Glad to hear it!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on March 24, 2013, 03:31:38 PM
Been training for the Sleepy Hollow half in NY on March 23rd.
Haven't run a sanctioned 13 in a while, so I'm pumped up.
Pretty hilly and scenic, this one is gonna be dope.

My wife and I are making this our "last" extended weekend together before little J comes this Summer.
A few nights in Sleepy Hollow and then shooting over to Mohegan Sun in a fat suite.

This is only the 3rd annual Sleepy half, so hopefully I can make it a tradition.
Pumped.

How'd it go today??

Just ok.
Been sidelined for a month with a crack knee, but I rolled up and finished in 2:15.
Ok for zero training in the past month on a really hilly course.
I'm gonna run it next year all proper.

Yeah, I'd say you did pretty well considering. Glad to hear it!

yep, good work!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on March 24, 2013, 03:36:19 PM
Thanks, guys.
It's kinda nice knowing that I have the cardio strength to just run 13 miles "cold."
Gonna run the LI half in 5 weeks with better results.
Also, I've never been this sore EVER.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on March 24, 2013, 03:40:23 PM
Thanks, guys.
It's kinda nice knowing that I have the cardio strength to just run 13 miles "cold."
Gonna run the LI half in 5 weeks with better results.
Also, I've never been this sore EVER.

I bet.

I'm hoping to sign up for a race soon. Been working my way back up to 5 miles, 2-3 times a week again.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on March 24, 2013, 03:41:49 PM
Nice, dude.
Keep running!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on March 25, 2013, 09:41:04 PM
Thanks, guys.
It's kinda nice knowing that I have the cardio strength to just run 13 miles "cold."
Gonna run the LI half in 5 weeks with better results.
Also, I've never been this sore EVER.

Nice work Aug.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: shoreline99 on March 31, 2013, 09:02:24 AM
Nice one, Aug!

Anyone have a good road running mix to share? I need to reload my iPod this week.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: khalpin on April 12, 2013, 12:28:18 PM
http://www.runforyourlives.com/
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 03, 2013, 08:42:31 PM
Anyone here run in Newtons?
Went to pick up my bib for this weekend's race and copped a pair at the expo.
Usually $160 for $65 on last year's models.
My first non-Nike purchase in over ten years!

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/null_zps9af1248d.jpg)

They LOOK fast!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on May 03, 2013, 09:30:11 PM
Looks like you trampled a leprechaun to death.

Twice. :-P




Nice snag, hope they wear well.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 05, 2013, 02:57:12 PM
Official time of 1:56:02/8:51p for today's race.
Felt good and prepared.
Was gunnin' for 1:57, so I'm happy with my results.
And chaffed the fuck up
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on May 05, 2013, 03:18:47 PM
Official time of 1:56:02/8:51p for today's race.
Felt good and prepared.
Was gunnin' for 1:57, so I'm happy with my results.
And chaffed the fuck up
nice job  :clap:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 05, 2013, 06:56:51 PM
Official time of 1:56:02/8:51p for today's race.
Felt good and prepared.
Was gunnin' for 1:57, so I'm happy with my results.
And chaffed the fuck up
congrats   :beers:

remember, Vaseline has more uses than you think
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on May 05, 2013, 07:17:02 PM

congrats   :beers:


Hell yeah. Have another, on me.   :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' Worldr
Post by: Augustus on May 26, 2013, 11:34:45 AM
Ran the Long Beach 10.118 this AM in 1:24/8:22.
Happy with my time considering how crazy windy it was and that I've only ran twice since my half last month.
Now it's time to drink!
Just kidding. Putting shelves up in the nursery. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 26, 2013, 10:29:47 PM
great job
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' Worldr
Post by: VDB on May 27, 2013, 01:48:46 AM
Now it's time to drink!
Just kidding. Putting shelves up in the nursery.

Uh, why not both?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on June 19, 2013, 01:18:30 PM
Holy crap, it's hard running with a jogging stroller. 

Def a good training device for the half i wanna run this summer.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on July 04, 2013, 11:11:08 PM
5K this AM
22:48 (7:23).
I actually didn't know they were having this and ran 5 miles yesterday and the day before
Regardless, 2nd for age (there apparently is a benefit to being a part of the 50 - 60 age group)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on July 05, 2013, 09:20:30 AM
Hey guys, congrats on the times and races, encouraging running through the thread. 
Just starting to run myself, lot easier without the extra 85 pounds, knees didn't like it when I was 275.

Any suggestions on sites about technique and training?  I want to run 5k this summer and then a local charity 7 miler with a friend in the fall.  Feel like I am way too much on my heels.   Able to go out and do about 3.5 miles without issue, pace is slow 8:35/mi last 2 runs.

Thanks for any help.
-G
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on July 05, 2013, 08:34:24 PM
Runners World has a good web site with lots of training tips for all types of runners.
If you think your technique is off, try going to a good running store and try on some shoes. They'll watch you run.
I was looking at people's shoes before the race - for the 1st time in a while, I didn't see any minimalist or barefoot type shoes. It seems as if there were some injuries from that method, too.
Don't worry about pace if you're just starting. Just go out, have fun, and don't get injured. It's probably better not to be a Type A self competitive type like me, anyway
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on July 05, 2013, 11:31:56 PM
Runners World has a good web site with lots of training tips for all types of runners.
If you think your technique is off, try going to a good running store and try on some shoes. They'll watch you run.
I was looking at people's shoes before the race - for the 1st time in a while, I didn't see any minimalist or barefoot type shoes. It seems as if there were some injuries from that method, too.
Don't worry about pace if you're just starting. Just go out, have fun, and don't get injured. It's probably better not to be a Type A self competitive type like me, anyway

Thanks, I'll go to Runners World.  We have a great local running store here that the few marathoners I know swear by, guy is supposed to be really good.  If I get real into it I am going to go to him for shoes to make sure I have the exact right fit.

Did 3.5 today in the 90+ degree heat and high humidity.  Time was a little slower, but really focused on my leg kick and coming down more mid foot and not right on the edge of my heal.   Felt a lot better after.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on July 06, 2013, 06:16:41 AM
Hey guys, congrats on the times and races, encouraging running through the thread. 
Just starting to run myself, lot easier without the extra 85 pounds, knees didn't like it when I was 275.

Any suggestions on sites about technique and training?  I want to run 5k this summer and then a local charity 7 miler with a friend in the fall.  Feel like I am way too much on my heels.   Able to go out and do about 3.5 miles without issue, pace is slow 8:35/mi last 2 runs.

Thanks for any help.
-G

Your foot should strike the ground just behind the arch of your foot.  That said, running technique is nearly impossible to change, if you're doing something wrong you'll have to work for years at changing it.

Just make sure you get fitted for shoes by a pro, I'd do it sooner rather than later as well.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on July 23, 2013, 11:15:37 PM
Figured out my mistake.  I was making a very long stride causing me to land on the back of my heal.  That combined with years of marching band causing me to roll on my heels.  Shortened the stride a bit and I am hitting just before my arch, but not flat on my heel.   Been successful the last 4-5 runs like that. 

Working on a good kick and duration now.   30 minutes yesterday at 7:40/mile.   Did insanity this morning and then 3.5 miles tonight at 8:04.  Slower, but it was a second workout.

thanks for the pointers to sites guys.   
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on July 26, 2013, 06:43:17 PM
^^^
great

ran the annual Jerry Garcia Memorial 5K last night (in the rain)
21:18 (6:53), 3rd for age
didn't stick around for the brews and the band as usual cause of the weather, still a fun evening though
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on July 26, 2013, 06:56:35 PM
Nice job!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on July 27, 2013, 01:26:51 PM
^^^
great

ran the annual Jerry Garcia Memorial 5K last night (in the rain)
21:18 (6:53), 3rd for age
didn't stick around for the brews and the band as usual cause of the weather, still a fun evening though

Nice work!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 03, 2013, 08:04:50 AM
Most of you probably saw the pics and vid I posted on FB, but yesterday I ran the Long Beach 5 Miler and placed 3rd in my division (30-34).
Stoked! Ran it in 39:50/7:58.
Got a trophy! For running!

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/null_zps87cadf2a.jpg)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on September 03, 2013, 08:17:47 AM
awesome job bro.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 03, 2013, 08:28:12 AM
awesome job bro.

Thanks, bud.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on September 03, 2013, 09:01:29 AM
you definitely should have had the fluffhead sign.
or is 'Read the Book" the new Fluffhead.  I can;t keep up.

but good job.
oh yeah, and you're old.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 03, 2013, 09:04:00 AM
you definitely should have had the fluffhead sign.
or is 'Read the Book" the new Fluffhead.  I can;t keep up.

but good job.
oh yeah, and you're old.

Sometimes I feel old.
Training for the Philly Marathon in November, so I'm putting up some miles each week.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on September 03, 2013, 09:08:05 AM
Congrats, Bud!  That trophy belongs on the mantel! 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on September 03, 2013, 09:08:17 AM
Nice man.  I applaud you.  I always wanted to run a marathon but never put in the training.  Maybe someday Iíll motivate myself.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 03, 2013, 09:14:25 AM
Nice man.  I applaud you.  I always wanted to run a marathon but never put in the training.  Maybe someday Iíll motivate myself.

Do it before you turn 35... :wink:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on September 03, 2013, 09:18:30 AM
Nice man.  I applaud you.  I always wanted to run a marathon but never put in the training.  Maybe someday Iíll motivate myself.

Do it before you turn 35... :wink:
looks like I better start building that time machine then  :-D
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on September 03, 2013, 08:54:47 PM
strong work
 :clap:

Philly is supposed to be a great marathon. Good luck!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on September 03, 2013, 09:32:32 PM
Shit yeah Aug, nice work.  :clap:
Is Philly gonna be your first full marathon?
I enjoy running but I can't imagine being able to pull that off, good on ya.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 03, 2013, 09:36:46 PM
Thanks, guys.
Yeah, Philly will be my first although there is still a chance that I can win a bib for NYC, which is two weeks before.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: pcr3 on September 03, 2013, 09:55:31 PM
Those kicks look pretty dope on the podium. Nice work!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on September 03, 2013, 11:04:05 PM
Nice work, Joe--be proud.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on September 03, 2013, 11:23:09 PM
Best of luck in Philly!!!!    Not to be a downer, but please tell me you have reviewed with your doc and he/she has cleared you?  Can't be too safe
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 04, 2013, 05:01:28 AM
Best of luck in Philly!!!!    Not to be a downer, but please tell me you have reviewed with your doc and he/she has cleared you?  Can't be too safe

What issues of mine should I bring up?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on September 04, 2013, 09:15:24 AM
hey bud hit me up if you wanna grab a drink and a cheese steak post run.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 04, 2013, 09:56:00 AM

I didn't talk to a Doctor before I started running marathons.  If you can run a half, then train for a full - you should have an idea of whether or not you're healthy enough to do it.

You gonna break my 3:52 Aug?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on September 04, 2013, 11:47:17 AM
Best of luck in Philly!!!!    Not to be a downer, but please tell me you have reviewed with your doc and he/she has cleared you?  Can't be too safe

What issues of mine should I bring up?

I have quite a few friends that runs marathons.  Unfortunately, a friend of the family died in the Philly marathon a couple years back.  Ever since then I just ask folks to get checked out first as it is such a strain.   
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 04, 2013, 03:53:10 PM
Sorry to hear that, man.
What was your friend's fitness level like?
I'm I'm pretty fair shape now, running 30-35 miles a week, work out 5 days a week and eat well.
Blood pressure is in check, too.
I appreciate the concern tho, Guyute.

Matt: Gunning for a 55, but now I'm going for 51.
Jez: Chyeah!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on September 04, 2013, 05:44:52 PM
3-4 marathons a year plus an iron man or 2.
I am going in for a work up as I am starting to run more now that I shed that pesky 110 pounds of baby weight.   

Have fun in the race. Philly is a great city.
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Post by: EdBanky on September 12, 2013, 02:19:47 PM
So i've cut back on my running for the last month or so because i'm having problems with my little piggies. When I hit about the 25 minute mark my toes go numb. I've had my nike free's for way too long, so I definitely need to get some new kicks. I'm planning on going to the store ASAP to get myself something new. However, my friend told me i should purchase the toe shoes. Apparently they promote better circulation and form. I've always been pretty skeptical of those things. Does anyone here have any experience with these problems/shoes?

I'm too lazy to look through all the pages of this thread to see if there was a discussion on this.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on September 12, 2013, 03:53:10 PM

I'm skeptical.  I really don't think toe shoes are going to give you the kind of support you require.  Nike Free are gym shoes for like 20 minutes on the treadmill or doing exercise classes, you need something that will balance your potential impact/pronation issues.

Do they have Running Room in your area? Go talk to them and buy your shoes there.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on September 12, 2013, 04:39:35 PM
I spoke w my podiatrist about minimalist running. He says it has it's own set up problems and didn't recommend it.

agree with Matt's advice
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Post by: fastfingers12 on September 13, 2013, 10:45:15 AM
So i've cut back on my running for the last month or so because i'm having problems with my little piggies. When I hit about the 25 minute mark my toes go numb. I've had my nike free's for way too long, so I definitely need to get some new kicks. I'm planning on going to the store ASAP to get myself something new. However, my friend told me i should purchase the toe shoes. Apparently they promote better circulation and form. I've always been pretty skeptical of those things. Does anyone here have any experience with these problems/shoes?

I'm too lazy to look through all the pages of this thread to see if there was a discussion on this.

I can tell you from first hand experience, If you get the toe shoes...don't get them for running. I know there a lot of other people that disagree with me and say that they are better. I used to run in mine and tried to buy in to the hype, but now days I can't handle it, especially since I mostly run outside. Instead of going 25+ min. you'll be able to go about 10 min. They hurt the bottoms of your feet! Go with a solid running shoe with good support.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fastfingers12 on October 01, 2013, 06:21:00 PM
Hit my personal best last night. I ran 2.87 miles! Usually by 2 miles I'm pretty fatigued and have to call it quits. Tomorrow I'm shooting for 3!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 01, 2013, 07:33:46 PM
strong work!
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Post by: Augustus on October 01, 2013, 08:10:38 PM
Keep it up!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on October 03, 2013, 11:12:56 PM
Hit my personal best last night. I ran 2.87 miles! Usually by 2 miles I'm pretty fatigued and have to call it quits. Tomorrow I'm shooting for 3!

Nice, keep pushing!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on October 05, 2013, 05:42:05 PM
Surprised myself today--

I pretty much stopped running when Ellie was a newborn, middle of '08. Stayed in shape at the gym, then just working on my feet a ton this past year.

Since moving back home this summer I've started running again on my old routes from growing up. Today I was feeling good and had summer tour highlights lined up on the iPod, running dirt roads in fall color, so I turned left instead of right and wound up going twice as far as I've run since my last marathon, Burlington 2007. It was just absolutely fucking tremendous.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on October 05, 2013, 06:20:25 PM
Nice!
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Post by: antelope19 on October 05, 2013, 07:56:57 PM
Nice!

This

Also, running the 7 mile leg in a relay next weekend. Baltimore marathon. Running through Camden yards is amazing.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 05, 2013, 07:59:10 PM
sounds like a couple of great runs

although I'm wondering how far that summer tour highlights really got you
 :evil:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on October 05, 2013, 09:31:09 PM
 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

I dipped in to LB 9 in the last couple miles. But it was 8/31 II that made me turn left.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on October 06, 2013, 10:40:06 AM
Cut my 18 miler short at 14.40.
Tight calf has been bothering me, so I didn't want to risk any injury, especially with 6 more weeks of training.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 06, 2013, 11:12:21 AM
smart move
keep stretching
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on October 06, 2013, 12:25:22 PM
smart move
keep stretching

Yup. Ice and self-massage, too.s
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fastfingers12 on October 09, 2013, 07:41:58 PM
Finally busted the 3 mile mark, and then some! 3.28 total! I'm really pumped. And I did it under 30 min.







 :samurai:



Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on October 09, 2013, 07:56:35 PM
Nice, dude!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on October 10, 2013, 02:04:58 PM
Cut my 18 miler short at 14.40.
Tight calf has been bothering me, so I didn't want to risk any injury, especially with 6 more weeks of training.

what you should be training for is the post run cheesesteak/beer sesh we'll have.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on October 10, 2013, 02:16:02 PM
It's on!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 10, 2013, 03:50:03 PM
Nice work Aug!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Lifeboy on October 11, 2013, 09:50:23 AM
Okay, so I was always the athlete in middle school and high school, and was always in incredible shape. Needless to say, once I started drinking/doing drugs regularly, that all faded away over time. I have these moments of "guilt", if you will, once or twice a week, where I feel like a piece of shit due to the shape I'm in, compared to the shape I was once in.

Anyway, I think someone had mentioned that there is an app that sets a schedule or something for you and lets you slowly get back into running without over-working you and scaring you away. Does this exist, or am I delusional?

Aside from that, do any of you hardcore, every-day runners (Aug, Matt, whoever) have any general tips for getting back into running? Or is it just kinda of a "force yourself to do it and get use to it" kinda thing?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: EdBanky on October 11, 2013, 10:33:06 AM
10k runner. Takes you from basically the easiest run of your life to running 3/5/10 miles no problem. There's even a marathon trainer.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fastfingers12 on October 11, 2013, 12:01:07 PM
I like to use the nike running app.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Lifeboy on October 11, 2013, 06:12:01 PM
Nice, thanks dudes!

I've yet to say to myself "I am going to start running", only because I felt like I would flake out. I told myself I would never say I was going to start unless I was absolutely going to go through with it.

Also, any condition/diet tips would help. I eat complete junk and drink DP's like they're going out of style. Luckily, My metabolism is still as high as it was when I was 15, so I haven't gotten fat... yet. Gotta cut that shit out.
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Post by: slslbs on October 11, 2013, 06:48:35 PM
Okay, so I was always the athlete in middle school and high school, and was always in incredible shape. Needless to say, once I started drinking/doing drugs regularly, that all faded away over time. I have these moments of "guilt", if you will, once or twice a week, where I feel like a piece of shit due to the shape I'm in, compared to the shape I was once in.

Anyway, I think someone had mentioned that there is an app that sets a schedule or something for you and lets you slowly get back into running without over-working you and scaring you away. Does this exist, or am I delusional?

Aside from that, do any of you hardcore, every-day runners (Aug, Matt, whoever) have any general tips for getting back into running? Or is it just kinda of a "force yourself to do it and get use to it" kinda thing?

1- just do it. In a few weeks it will become habit
2-there are lots of articles about exactly how to do it. I started off small, 1 mile etc and built up. Runners World has a beginners column - I thihnk most of the pros now say mix walking and running, gradually walking less and running more. there are also a fair # of "couch to 5K" articles and programs.
I think the bottom line is to build up slowly so you don't get injured. don't worry about pace, distance, etc, just get out there and do what feels good
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on October 12, 2013, 02:57:38 PM
My leg was A little over 7 miles miles today at the Baltimore marathon relay.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on October 12, 2013, 03:03:30 PM
Nice app.  :roll:
Good job!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on October 12, 2013, 04:52:01 PM
Lulz.......you making fun of my stop watch?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on October 12, 2013, 05:01:20 PM
Sure am!
What the hell is that crap!
Get RunKeeper and get some STATS.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on October 12, 2013, 05:47:49 PM
Sure am!
What the hell is that crap!
Get RunKeeper and get some STATS.

Never heard of it. I'll have to look into that. Thanks! I use map my run occasionally
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Post by: slslbs on October 12, 2013, 06:07:00 PM
Sure am!
What the hell is that crap!
Get RunKeeper and get some STATS.
^^^ yep

nice job
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Post by: Augustus on October 12, 2013, 06:10:52 PM
It's free and is crazy accurate.

Maps.

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/E6557933-F491-4E35-9017-DA8EEF5AFBF4-7377-0000076FC2F3CFED_zpse8b5e02a.jpg)

Splits.

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/64AFBFD5-6208-49F3-B911-83660638A8F3-7377-0000076FC806D73F_zps5ec109d6.jpg)

Interactive charts.

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/CEF4F301-B10F-4A54-8703-3877A4C6BAAB-7377-0000076FCC91291F_zps58b37fbb.jpg)

Free.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 12, 2013, 09:23:36 PM
nice course
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: EdBanky on October 13, 2013, 10:34:07 PM
Was using mapmyride. I'm gonna switch to that. Thanks.
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Post by: fastfingers12 on October 16, 2013, 06:25:49 PM
The shoes I have been running in are on their last leg. They are so worn down that they are starting to hurt my feet. Any recommendations on another good running shoe? I have been using nike free.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on October 16, 2013, 06:34:00 PM
I'm all about Newton.
Run in there Terras for trails and have their new Energy model now.
There are always blowouts at Runners Edge on them, but they have limited sizes.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on October 16, 2013, 06:41:59 PM
Honestly, go to a good running store and get fitted.  What's good for one person, might not be for the other.  I swear by saucony.  My wife swears by asics.  People on here probably use something different.  But your body and the way you walk will determine what you need.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on October 20, 2013, 10:17:47 AM
Just finished my last LONG run before my race in 4 weeks.
Ran a 20 @ 9:16. Felt good and comfortable throughout.
Looking forward to cutting back a bit on mileage, tho!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 20, 2013, 10:34:52 AM
nice
enjoy the taper
you running NY or Philly?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on October 20, 2013, 10:45:18 AM
nice
enjoy the taper
you running NY or Philly?

Philly.
Considered buying a NYC bib from Craigslist, but they're going for $400.
Already spent enough in Philly with registration, hotel and cheesesteak fund.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Lifeboy on October 20, 2013, 05:33:01 PM
I'm so jealous of Aug and the others guys that regularly run in races/events. I know it's possible for anyone to do it, and I hope to be at that level some day. It's just that I'm sure it's a lot of work to get to that level, and I bet it's an awesome feeling once you get there.

 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on October 20, 2013, 05:38:24 PM
It is, but it's not "that" much work.
We all take extended breaks from running, but the more you run and train, the easier it is to get your foundation back when you do decide to start running again.
I started my training for this race 11 weeks ago, pretty much coming back from 3 months off.
My foundation was still there, even if it was slow, but the miles and pace came back quickly.
You'll always get your mikes back faster than your pace, so don't let time deter you.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 22, 2013, 09:22:53 AM
agreed
a 5K isn't that much of an "investment" once you get the miles
don't worry about pace
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 22, 2013, 10:29:30 AM

I'm on like an 18 month hiatus from running.  Running in the winter in Toronto is great fun and great exercise, so I've been looking at my runners for a week or so now, getting ready to get back into things.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on October 22, 2013, 02:04:16 PM
Dude!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on October 22, 2013, 02:57:39 PM

It became really difficult to bike 14k to and from work everyday and still find time and energy to run.

I also noticed that my muscles changed from long/endurance to short/strength, which was weird.

I'm sure my Nike+ band battery is dead, which is really sad.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on October 22, 2013, 02:58:53 PM
nice
enjoy the taper
you running NY or Philly?

Philly.
Considered buying a NYC bib from Craigslist, but they're going for $400.
Already spent enough in Philly with registration, hotel and cheesesteak fund.

uhhh you know there's record stores too bro?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on October 22, 2013, 03:01:00 PM
nice
enjoy the taper
you running NY or Philly?

Philly.
Considered buying a NYC bib from Craigslist, but they're going for $400.
Already spent enough in Philly with registration, hotel and cheesesteak fund.

uhhh you know there's record stores too bro?

Gonna have the baby.
He doesn't wanna look at no damn records after eating all those cheesesteaks!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 16, 2013, 10:27:24 AM
GOOD LUCK AUG !!!!!!

Have fun, have a great race

 :rawk: :rawk:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on November 16, 2013, 10:39:58 AM
GOOD LUCK AUG !!!!!!

Have fun, have a great race

 :rawk: :rawk:

This
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 16, 2013, 02:02:33 PM
Thanks, guys!
Hopefully all the training gets me to my goal.
Stoked!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on November 16, 2013, 05:56:41 PM
Thanks, guys!
Hopefully all the training gets me to my goal.
Stoked!

crush IT dude.

You got this. :rawk:
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Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 16, 2013, 06:25:40 PM
GOOD LUCK AUG !!!!!!

Have fun, have a great race

 :rawk: :rawk:

This

You got this dude!!!  :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on November 17, 2013, 12:52:02 PM
WTG Augustus... :clap:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on November 17, 2013, 01:02:10 PM
sub 4 hrs on first full.   :crazy:

Pound cheesteaks kid. 

WAY TO GO AUG!
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Post by: slslbs on November 17, 2013, 01:05:05 PM
Great job!!
Congrats!!!
 :beers:


(PS - you won't be able to walk down stairs for a few days)
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Post by: antelope19 on November 17, 2013, 01:11:04 PM
DAY-UM!!!!!

 :beers:

Congrats, Bud! 
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Post by: mbw on November 17, 2013, 01:22:04 PM
whoa!  good job!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 17, 2013, 02:01:03 PM
Thanks, guys!
Quick first half, but still finished at my goal of 355.
I'm DUNZO.
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Post by: blatboom on November 17, 2013, 02:18:06 PM
Wow. 'grats!
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Post by: Caravan2001 on November 17, 2013, 04:40:56 PM
Awesome!  Way to go mang!  Where you hooking cheesesteaks?  We went to Tony Lukes before we left for AC.  Place is da bomb....
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 17, 2013, 06:09:03 PM
Thanks again, y'all.
No cheesesteaks.  :cry:
Philly was traffic city and after checking out of the hotel and packing up my son's stuff and all, I just wanted to get home.
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Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 17, 2013, 06:55:30 PM
Well done Aug  :clap:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on November 18, 2013, 01:56:19 PM

If you're thinking of trying to beat my 3:52... your second marathon is tougher than your first.   8-)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 18, 2013, 02:04:42 PM

If you're thinking of trying to beat my 3:52... your second marathon is tougher than your first.   8-)

How would you know? ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on November 18, 2013, 02:10:21 PM

I've got 2 medals around my neck, Toronto and Ottawa.

http://www.sportstats.ca/displayResults.xhtml?racecode=45552&bib=1243

http://www.sportstats.ca/displayResults.xhtml?racecode=46327&bib=1677
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Post by: Augustus on November 18, 2013, 03:03:33 PM
Nice!
I said only one for myself after yesterday, but now I'm planning out 2014.
Pretty sure I'm doing LI in May.
Def doing the Sleepy Hollow half in March.
AND...a 5K Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving AM.
Gunning for a 23 min finish.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 18, 2013, 03:05:11 PM
Also, what was different for your second?
Not as much training time?
Oddly enough, I felt as close to 100% yesterday, physically, but mentally bonked later as you can see by my splits.
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Post by: mattstick on November 18, 2013, 03:15:37 PM

I trained harder, but less.  I think I only ran 30K one time before the Ottawa Marathon.

In an effort to run a 3:30, I was concerned with speed and ultimately dropped the ball on endurance.

The course was a lot tougher in Ottawa as well, but 4:12 was really, really disappointing after all that training.


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Post by: Augustus on November 18, 2013, 03:30:14 PM
I feel ya. That stinks, especially when training with a specific number in mind.
My original goal was a 55, then a 52 with how my training was going.
I was on pace to crush, but had too much going on in my head.
I saw an ad for Ottawa and that course looks beautiful. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on November 18, 2013, 03:34:22 PM

You've got me inspired to lace up the shoes and run something next fall, looking at The County Marathon in Wellington Ontario which should be nice and flat.



Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 18, 2013, 03:39:48 PM
Nice, man!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 18, 2013, 07:22:11 PM
for me, personally, the 1st was about finishing. I actually had plenty of gas left at the end (4:07 unofficial,n Boston 99) and it was the most fun I ever had running. The next 3 were about time, with more pressure and less fun (I tried to run a BQ). One of them, the temp was upper 70s-low 80s and humid. I was in great shape but the heat (and running a much too fast 7:20 split mile 17) wiped me out. Pace strategy for a full marathon is pretty tough - for me, anyway

Sounds like you hit your goal, great job
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on November 18, 2013, 07:42:08 PM

That idea about having "too much in your head" is a pretty big hurdle too.  It's much more mental than you realize until you get into the race and into that third hour.
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Post by: Augustus on November 18, 2013, 07:53:20 PM
Yep. I made "The Perfect Phish Show" as my playlist and was so excited to listen to it.
I was stoked to LISTEN to music as I ran.
Somewhere in there I realized that I wasn't listening to the music at all and that I hadn't been in quite some time.
Instead, I was crunching numbers and "what if?" pace outcomes for miles.
My last training 20 miler was at a comfortable 9:15, but I told myself that if I came out fast, I would stay with it while I had it in me.
Thing was, is that my miles were effortless for the first 15 and then I started thinking too much.
It's weird, but I'll take it as a lesson learned.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on November 18, 2013, 08:46:58 PM

That idea about having "too much in your head" is a pretty big hurdle too.  It's much more mental than you realize until you get into the race and into that third hour.

It's the same with cycling imo...I have not run a marathon but I have done many 100 mile rides (my longest ride is 137 miles) and your mental strength really plays a huge part in it, sometimes as much if not more than conditioning.  My first distance ride (1996?) was 130 miles from NYC to Montauk Point and I was not conditioned at all.  I think my longest ride to that point was 50 miles but I made it on mental fortitude.....Sometimes if you're not feeling it, it's hard to even make it half that distance....
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 18, 2013, 08:51:38 PM
For a stretch I was thinking of my buddy that just completed the Iron Man in Lake Placid.
I couldn't think about that for too long, tho.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on November 19, 2013, 08:15:07 AM

I had some friends ride their bikes along side me for km 32-36 which really helped. Just being able to talk to someone else, crack a few jokes, etc. took my mind off things.

I don't think I could run a marathon in Miles, it would be so depressing.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on November 19, 2013, 11:20:25 AM
To me, it's almost all mental.  If I commit to it, I'm gonna put in the training time, I'm gonna put in the effort, and I know my body can handle it.  But the thought of running for 4 hours/26 miles is a hurdle I have yet to overcome.....especially after the way I felt after my first half marathon.  I can't imagine doing that twice.  I'll get there eventually.     
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 19, 2013, 12:42:01 PM
It's all about the training. If you put the miles in, you can do it.
the hard part imo is trying to hit a certain time.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on November 19, 2013, 12:49:04 PM
It's all about the training. If you put the miles in, you can do it.
the hard part imo is trying to hit a certain time.

Yeah, similar to what you stated earlier, my first(only?) time will be all about finishing.   
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 19, 2013, 02:55:10 PM
I logged 382 training miles which seems like a lot now, but each week was easy to deal with.
I know I have a better Marathon in me and I'll find out in May.
2 halves planned for the Spring which should help with speed pacing.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 19, 2013, 03:41:32 PM
I logged 382 training miles which seems like a lot now, but each week was easy to deal with.
I know I have a better Marathon in me and I'll find out in May.
2 halves planned for the Spring which should help with speed pacing.

sounds like a great idea
the frustrating thing for me is that I've run 4 and because of poor strategy, I don't think I did as well as I could have.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 19, 2013, 04:14:44 PM
Sounds like a good reason to start training ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 19, 2013, 08:02:01 PM
yea
I just can't get motivated for the 14 mile + training runs

(at heart, I guess I'm a wuss)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 19, 2013, 08:11:21 PM
yea
I just can't get motivated for the 14 mile + training runs

(at heart, I guess I'm a wuss)

When else will you catch up on 3.0?!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 28, 2013, 10:35:23 AM
Obliterated my Turkey Trot 5k this AM in 21:30/6:56p.
Finished 25th overall!
Boo ya!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 28, 2013, 01:31:59 PM
Obliterated my Turkey Trot 5k this AM in 21:30/6:56p.
Finished 25th overall!
Boo ya!
great run, Congrats!!
 :beers:


I used to be able to do that

22:41, 7:19 pace, 7th for age
I clearly need to run more to get my times back where they were
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 28, 2013, 01:32:48 PM
That was today's race time?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 28, 2013, 01:33:48 PM
yes
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 28, 2013, 02:08:49 PM
Sweet!
Great job!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: birdman on November 28, 2013, 02:22:30 PM
Obliterated my Turkey Trot 5k this AM in 21:30/6:56p.
Finished 25th overall!
Boo ya!
great run, Congrats!!
 :beers:


I used to be able to do that

22:41, 7:19 pace, 7th for age
I clearly need to run more to get my times back where they were
Feaster 5? Nice job. My wife ran the 5 mile race this morning in 47+ minutes.  A best for her.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 28, 2013, 02:33:39 PM
nice
it's a fun (and cold) day
did your daughter run?

the guy that won the 5m was on the Olympic 5K team
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 28, 2013, 02:36:53 PM
Nice, Bird.
The dude that won where we used to live in Oyster Bay won in just over 14 this AM.
Kenyan.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 28, 2013, 03:09:13 PM
some people are just born different

I forget the Olympian's time, but pace was in the 4:50s

at least I finished 5K before he finished 5m  :-P
(actually, 8K, but still...)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on December 11, 2013, 12:02:25 PM

Started running to and from work, it's 6.5km downhill to work and obviously uphill home.

It's a challenge, but it's great to incorporate exercise into commuting, because just riding my bike 6.5km wasn't really a challenge.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on December 11, 2013, 04:05:31 PM
Nice, dude!
Sign up for something.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on December 12, 2013, 11:00:11 AM
My uncle is one of the forefathers of ultra-running.  The guy is a machine.  He just finished his 14th or 15th IronMan in Mexico on Thanksgiving and is going to Kona next.  Guy is over 60....He does all these crazy 100 mile runs and last year ran from one rim of the Grand Canyon to the other rim, and then back to the first.  He's insane.  When I mountain bike or cycle with him, I can't keep up at all.  I am not sure how fast he is, but from his FB posts I know that his PR for 8K is 25 minutes and his PR for a 50 miler is 5.5 hours which seems insane to me, but I have no idea really how fast that is.....Here he is on the cover of some old magazine about ultra running....
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on December 12, 2013, 12:52:34 PM
Dude, 50 miles/5.5 hours?...


6.6 minutes/mile


6:36/mile.


Fifty times.


In a row,


without stopping.


 :-o

 :crazy:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on December 13, 2013, 03:35:23 PM
In - fucking - sane
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on December 14, 2013, 09:04:42 PM
In - fucking - sane

HOLY SHIT!!!!!


that's absolutely wild.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on January 22, 2014, 02:56:30 PM
Quiet Winter 'round here, y'all!
Just recently started a 16wk program.
It's tough getting out in this cold, but I do.
Layers....

Got a nice schedule through the Spring lined up.

02/23 Central Park Half Marathon
03/22 Sleepy Hollow Half Marathon
05/04 Long Island Marathon
05/18 Dirty German 50k Philly, PA
05/25 Long Beach (NY) 10 Mile Trophy Run

Busy May.

What does everyone have going on?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on January 22, 2014, 03:00:07 PM
There is a Wellness Centre at my new job ($60 per year!) where you can book the exercise machines.  I've been booking 30 minutes 4x/week and doing high intensity runs at lunch.

When the weather warms up I'll be biking to work and running at lunch, while occasionally running the 6km to and from work.  I'm all about built in exercise.

At some point I'll start doing longer runs on the weekend with an eye to do a 10K in May, Half in June or July and maybe a full in the Fall.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on January 22, 2014, 03:01:15 PM
Nice!
I'd be looking forward to work.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on January 22, 2014, 03:04:17 PM
Quiet Winter 'round here, y'all!
Just recently started a 16wk program.
It's tough getting out in this cold, but I do.
Layers....

Got a nice schedule through the Spring lined up.

02/23 Central Park Half Marathon
03/22 Sleepy Hollow Half Marathon
05/04 Long Island Marathon
05/18 Dirty German 50k Philly, PA
05/25 Long Beach (NY) 10 Mile Trophy Run

Busy May.

What does everyone have going on?

 :-o
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on January 22, 2014, 03:04:37 PM
Yeah, it's actually encouraged that we be active during the day - so even though I feel guilty for sneaking off and hitting the treadmill my co-workers seem to think it makes me a better employee.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on January 22, 2014, 03:20:41 PM
Nice. I might have to hit a treadmill on Thursday morning.
Gonna be cold, cold, cold....

If I wasn't training for that Philly race, I might have considered Burlington, sunrise.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on January 22, 2014, 03:30:23 PM
I've been running again sine the New Year, nothing crazy but nice to get back in the swing of things.
Aug, you don't do anything half ass, do ya?  That is one hell of a schedule.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on January 22, 2014, 03:35:37 PM
Nice, dude!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on January 22, 2014, 03:57:03 PM
My wife and I have been doing some all-fit type stuff together at the gym and it's been great.  But I actually did my 5 mile loop the other day for the first time in quite a while.  I am sore as hell!  Once this snow melts, I'm going to get back into running full time in hopes of running my first full this fall. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on January 22, 2014, 04:02:11 PM
Get some!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on February 23, 2014, 06:45:04 PM
Ran a great half in Central Park this morning.

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/B6734BB0-952B-4D08-91B8-F1E6DA3E9FDF_zpsgyoldkfv.png)

Pretty pumped!
Now back to our regularly-scheduled marathon training ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: VA $l!m on February 23, 2014, 07:44:01 PM
just a walk in park, eh?   8-)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on February 23, 2014, 07:46:01 PM
Pretty much!
I did smell some sweet nuggs being puffed twice along the course.
Good 'ol NYC!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on February 23, 2014, 08:01:42 PM
Pretty much!
I did smell some sweet nuggs being puffed twice along the course.
Good 'ol NYC!
that's awesome.  I'm often smelling nugs on my runs.  My 400m runs would be killer if it wasn't for those odors.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on February 23, 2014, 08:07:38 PM
Ha! I was cranking Phish, so it was fitting.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on February 23, 2014, 08:46:01 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Awesome stuff right there.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on February 25, 2014, 01:07:47 PM
nice work
 :rawk:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on February 25, 2014, 01:26:02 PM
Pretty much!
I did smell some sweet nuggs being puffed twice along the course.
Good 'ol NYC!

 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

Yeah, in line for the 5k fun run at Superball IX, we had to wait like 45 minutes while they coordinated for one of those big group photos, taken from a crane above us... I got baked up by 2 different fellow athletes. Made for a very mellow run. Good times.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on February 25, 2014, 02:32:23 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Dyke van Dick on February 25, 2014, 03:19:47 PM
Whatchall runnin from?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: kellerb on February 25, 2014, 09:35:56 PM
Whatchall runnin from?

+K
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on February 25, 2014, 11:25:15 PM
Pretty much!
I did smell some sweet nuggs being puffed twice along the course.
Good 'ol NYC!

 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

Yeah, in line for the 5k fun run at Superball IX, we had to wait like 45 minutes while they coordinated for one of those big group photos, taken from a crane above us... I got baked up by 2 different fellow athletes. Made for a very mellow run. Good times.

superball 5k was the most fun run i've ever done, and I was pepped up on nugs and Jack Daniels.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 01, 2014, 12:34:36 AM

Registration just opened for the Philly Marathon in November.
Just signed up!
If anyone else wants in, they discount the first 1,000 entries.
Amazing course and such a well-run race.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 06, 2014, 12:40:41 PM
Sure my FB friends saw this all morning, but I won my Division earlier in a 5k race.

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/B0073ACD-D692-4362-AD67-3971E4C78CAC_zps1ypcsx44.jpg)

Pretty pumped as I was just trying to place.
Beers!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: PIE-GUY on April 06, 2014, 12:49:26 PM
Attaboy!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: khalpin on April 06, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
Nice!   :clap:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on April 06, 2014, 02:15:40 PM
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 06, 2014, 02:26:31 PM
Beers!
I beat EVERY female today!
Eat it, ladies!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: PIE-GUY on April 06, 2014, 02:28:20 PM
Aug drinks beer and beats females?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 06, 2014, 02:36:42 PM
Aug drinks beer and beats females?

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/1C067DCD-9C11-4ED3-AA90-361FCF2A610E_zps8e045siv.jpg)

Sure do.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on April 06, 2014, 02:49:29 PM
 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on April 06, 2014, 03:03:40 PM
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 06, 2014, 06:30:28 PM
Nice work Aug  :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 07, 2014, 02:22:30 PM
I know Matt is training for his 30k this Summer...anyone else have a race lined up?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 07, 2014, 02:31:56 PM

Speaking of which, while running 30K, I'm also raising money for the SickKids Rheumatology program and I'm almost at my goal...

https://www.sickkidsdonations.com/registrant/FundraisingPage.aspx?registrationID=2205073&langPref=en-CA
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 07, 2014, 02:39:46 PM

Speaking of which, while running 30K, I'm also raising money for the SickKids Rheumatology program and I'm almost at my goal...

https://www.sickkidsdonations.com/registrant/FundraisingPage.aspx?registrationID=2205073&langPref=en-CA

Just tried twice to kick a ten spot.
Easier to just PP you the loot?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 07, 2014, 02:45:13 PM
Apparently, donating to a Canadian charity alerts the Wells Fargo fraud dept.!
Let me know if it goes through.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 07, 2014, 02:47:07 PM

Nice.  I don't see anything yet, but it may not be immediate.  Thanks!

Be sure to LMK if you're ever fundraising for a race.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 07, 2014, 02:53:06 PM
Yeah, I wanna run NYC.
Only need to raise $4,500.  :wink:

NYC is such a money race.
Even if you get in through the lotto, it's around $260.
Otherwise, you qualify through a number of paid races or raise money for a charity.
Philly (2 weeks later) cost me $85 after fees.
LI is around $60.
It's crazy that they get so much.

:end NYC Marathon rant:

Good luck with your training!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 07, 2014, 02:57:50 PM

Most races full marathon's here are close to $100.  Obviously I'm not privy to all their expenses, but they seem like a cash grab.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 07, 2014, 02:59:29 PM
I know you've ran the Ottawa before, but I was looking at some pics of that course and it looks Badass.
Would love to run it one day.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 07, 2014, 03:06:11 PM

Ottawa Marathon is great, the city really gets into it, lots of people cheering in the streets.

For the Toronto Waterfront Marathon you're more likely to have people yelling at you, pissed that a street is closed.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 08, 2014, 02:10:39 PM
Late to the party, but Congrats on the Win Aub
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 08, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Thanks, Steb!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 14, 2014, 04:26:33 PM
Very smooth 20 miler in the books.
Now, we taper!

I'm still tweaking my race day nutrition and might have found a great pairing with dried exotic fruits and a mix of 1/2 Vita Coco water and 1/2 electro lite water.

Been getting bogged down on the Clif BLOX (I also hate Gu), so the dried fruit is a welcome addition.
Enough tweaking, race is 3 weeks out!

What do y'all use for race nutrition?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 14, 2014, 04:51:25 PM

I mix the gels into my water.  I dig the gels with caffeine, it may not be a real perk but I get a mental edge from coffee flavour for some reason.

I also like 1/2 water 1/2 pineapple juice.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 14, 2014, 06:09:41 PM
Nice!
The caffeinated beans do something to me that I just don't like when I'm running.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 21, 2014, 10:23:40 AM

Some good tips here:

http://edge.si.com/edge/2014/04/17/12-things-never-do-marathon

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 21, 2014, 10:30:02 AM
Good guidelines for those floating without a routine.
Had my last "long" 12 yesterday and only have a few 4 and 3's left with a 7 and 5.
Playlist is set and I'm pretty damn ready.
The 2 halves I raced in during this training really helped with my mental issues (crunching numbers, worrying about pace) and I've cut my pace down significantly to try and help with going out too fast.
Stoked!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 21, 2014, 10:36:58 AM

Hydration and sleep in the week leading up are the big takeaways there.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 21, 2014, 10:40:27 AM
For sure.
I'm big on carbo loading throughout the week before a race, but I honestly can't stomach a huge, carb-heavy meal the night before.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 21, 2014, 10:45:11 AM

For Ottawa I tried this technique where you eat no carbs 2 weeks before your race, then on race week eat only carbs.

The "science" here is that your body starts to crave carbs and then starts to conserve them, then you hit it with lots of carbs.

I can't say I've ever really noticed an impact of what I ate the night before running...

My 30K is in the evening, which presents it's own challenges.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on April 21, 2014, 11:39:03 PM
Me and JPhishman's friend Sarah Horn finished the Boston Marathon today with a time of 3:03.  She came in 170th for women.  That is a pace of 7:00/mile.  I don;t know about you guys, but I'm impressed.  That's a good time, right?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on April 21, 2014, 11:44:35 PM

Been getting bogged down on the Clif BLOX (I also hate Gu), so the dried fruit is a welcome addition.
Enough tweaking, race is 3 weeks out!

What do y'all use for race nutrition?

I'm not a runner, but I am a big fan of Gu for cycling.  I only like to do the ones with caffeine in the morning (just one), caffeine bugs me out when I am racing, makes me feel weird.  I'll do a cup of coffee before and maybe one caffeinated gel.  Otherwise I do a Gu pack every 45-60 minutes and if it is 3-4 hour ride, I like the clif blocks ok (strawberry.)  I also do one plain water and one Gu drink in my bottles.  The drink and the gels give instant/quick acting burst for me, but sometimes I need something more solid so I will do blocks or even a reg cliff bar (just a piece, not a whole one).  ANyway, that's in cycling so it might not apply to running.  Sports beans are good too....Hammer heed makes me want to barf....
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: pcr3 on April 22, 2014, 12:44:21 AM
Me and JPhishman's friend Sarah Horn finished the Boston Marathon today with a time of 3:03.  She came in 170th for women.  That is a pace of 7:00/mile.  I don;t know about you guys, but I'm impressed.  That's a good time, right?

Well done by both of you. Can't believe an American man won today.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 22, 2014, 03:40:13 AM
Yeah, 7 min pace is badass!
That's a great finish time.

I tend to avoid caffeine before/during any race longer than 10 miles, but I will have coffee before training runs that are shorter than 15 miles.
It's weird, but race day produces the butterflies and the last thing you want is any GI issues to mess with all of your training.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 22, 2014, 11:01:59 AM
Me and JPhishman's friend Sarah Horn finished the Boston Marathon today with a time of 3:03.  She came in 170th for women.  That is a pace of 7:00/mile.  I don;t know about you guys, but I'm impressed.  That's a good time, right?

Awesome time!

As far as caffiene goes, I'm a regular coffee drinker (addict) so I always have a cup about an hour before a race. I wouldn't recommend it to someone who wasn't used to caffiene. I avoided the caffeinated gu / gel when I was doing marathons.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 30, 2014, 01:24:13 PM

Because I was in NOLA last weekend and I have to work this weekend I pushed my Sunday runs unto Wednesdays for the next couple weeks...  Just ran 11km on my lunch hour, work is feel in' easy breezy this afternoon as a result.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 03, 2014, 09:28:54 AM
Best of luck tomorrow Aug (LI marathon iirc)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on May 03, 2014, 09:49:23 AM
Best of luck tomorrow Aug (LI marathon iirc)

Hanging out with Politicians and shit on a Sunday!  Good Luck! 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 03, 2014, 05:32:02 PM
Thanks guys!
Feeling pretty good.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 04, 2014, 11:46:43 AM
DNF.
Felt all sorts of fucked up after the half.
Ran 19 and called it.
I'm straight hurt.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on May 04, 2014, 12:05:13 PM
DNF.
Felt all sorts of fucked up after the half.
Ran 19 and called it.
I'm straight hurt.

Oh man....hope you're ok. Hang in there.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mbw on May 04, 2014, 12:58:46 PM
nice try though!

(http://i.imgur.com/jTZkU10.gif)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 04, 2014, 01:06:54 PM
don't worry about it.
sometimes you just have a bad day

my 1st marathon Bill Rodgers was a DNF
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on May 04, 2014, 05:52:08 PM
good effort Aug.
no need to push and really hurt yourself.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 04, 2014, 06:22:35 PM
Thanks, guys.
Back to the grind.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: blatboom on May 04, 2014, 08:23:06 PM
no shame in that game
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on May 04, 2014, 08:45:18 PM
19 miles?

no shame in that game
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 04, 2014, 08:59:09 PM
I didn't sign up for a 19 miler! ;)

I'm almost over it.
Got another race in 2 weeks.
Legs feel pretty good right now.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 25, 2014, 10:52:04 AM
Great bounce back race today from my DNF three weeks ago.
Long Beach 10 Miler is super flat and runs alongside the Atlantic for a great stretch.
Almost too sunny, but it wasn't raining and it was nowhere as windy as last year.
Looking for a sub-80 and cranked out a 1:19:07.
Stoked!

My half time splits were off by one second!

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/F16D206F-EE41-4F17-A3AA-6CC97462DE0B_zpsjno10e4j.png)

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/B257BF4B-9597-4BCF-A1A3-38CF5C7364CD_zpshivsdyet.jpg)

Really needed a good race today and I'm happy with my performance.
Let's drink!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Superfreakie on May 25, 2014, 11:26:38 AM
Great pic!!!!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 25, 2014, 11:27:39 AM
My wife rocks!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 25, 2014, 11:29:01 AM
Also, running an 8K next weekend that I'd like to place in.
Is this a normal racing distance outside of the US?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: VDB on May 25, 2014, 11:42:22 AM
What were you listening to?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 25, 2014, 12:03:33 PM
What were you listening to?

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/6C23D78C-2711-4970-83D9-7FF5A2EF009F_zpsibk6b42q.png)

+ Us V Them, Home & Yeah.

 8-)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 25, 2014, 12:20:05 PM
Also, running an 8K next weekend that I'd like to place in.
Is this a normal racing distance outside of the US?

There is a popular 8K annually in Toronto. I smoked it in 2009.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on May 25, 2014, 12:25:30 PM
Nice work Aug.  :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 25, 2014, 12:47:57 PM
Also, running an 8K next weekend that I'd like to place in.
Is this a normal racing distance outside of the US?

There is a popular 8K annually in Toronto. I smoked it in 2009.

Nice!
I've never seen one close so I'd figure it would be a nice follow up to a 10M.
You run a 37?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on May 25, 2014, 12:53:03 PM
good job Aug  :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 25, 2014, 01:04:18 PM
Also, running an 8K next weekend that I'd like to place in.
Is this a normal racing distance outside of the US?

There is a popular 8K annually in Toronto. I smoked it in 2009.

Nice!
I've never seen one close so I'd figure it would be a nice follow up to a 10M.
You run a 37?

35:43 brah
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 25, 2014, 01:57:00 PM
Whoa! Sweet time!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on June 01, 2014, 02:43:19 PM
Great 8k race this morning. Tough course/runners.
44th overall. 7th in age division.
Official time of 34:56/7:01p.

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/0B4D967B-881B-4B20-A312-A028AF3BD893_zpswc81nedu.jpg)

Bit of a rest from racing until September, but marathon training starts up in another 7-10 days.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on June 05, 2014, 10:30:53 PM
nice!!
good luck with training

if you like the distance, our Thanksgiving Day "Feaster Five" is a 5K / 8K (metric 5 mile)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on June 19, 2014, 11:03:21 AM

Running a training half-marathon after work.  Not stoked but trying to be.

Ever listen to Dark Side Of The Moon while running?  It's an amazing experience.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on June 19, 2014, 11:09:15 AM

Running a training half-marathon after work.  Not stoked but trying to be.

Ever listen to Dark Side Of The Moon while running?  It's an amazing experience.

Yes and Yes it is!

Anyone have any suggestions for getting over Plantar Fasciitis?  I've rested now for a month and had my poor wife massage it and it doesn't seem to be making a difference. I'm extremely frustrated. 
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Post by: Augustus on June 19, 2014, 02:24:27 PM
Have you tried that sick thing?

Are you running a half at half pace or LSD style?
Either way, Fuego first listen will be nice.
I love hearing new albums for the first time on a run.
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Post by: mattstick on June 19, 2014, 03:19:25 PM

LSD style. 10s/1s etc... I'm thinking 1:55:00? I'm a bit worried about getting lost too because I improv'd the route on mapmyrun last night and I'm already forgetting a segment.
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Post by: Augustus on June 19, 2014, 04:29:00 PM
Let the Winterqueen be your guide.
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Post by: mattstick on June 19, 2014, 07:37:48 PM
Listened to way more of Blood Sugar Sex Majik than I had hoped.

I finished though. Running after work is tough.
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Post by: Augustus on June 19, 2014, 08:05:30 PM
Nice job, dude.
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Post by: slslbs on June 20, 2014, 03:50:11 PM

Running a training half-marathon after work.  Not stoked but trying to be.

Ever listen to Dark Side Of The Moon while running?  It's an amazing experience.

Yes and Yes it is!

Anyone have any suggestions for getting over Plantar Fasciitis?  I've rested now for a month and had my poor wife massage it and it doesn't seem to be making a difference. I'm extremely frustrated.
stretch
stretch
you can try the Strasbourg sock. It holds your foot flexed when your sleeping so the calf muscles stay extendid. running stores should have it.
also check your mechanics - you might wind up needing orthotics
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Post by: Augustus on July 04, 2014, 10:05:18 AM
Ran a Fourth of July 4 miler this morning. Finished in 27:27/6:52p which was a little better than my 28 minute goal time.
Last race for me in the 30/34 Division!

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-07/F420D7D3-6D8B-4C45-8429-AD753C55F0F7_zpsfpeons6t.jpg)
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Post by: Play_It_Leo on July 04, 2014, 02:15:02 PM

Running a training half-marathon after work.  Not stoked but trying to be.

Ever listen to Dark Side Of The Moon while running?  It's an amazing experience.

Yes and Yes it is!

Anyone have any suggestions for getting over Plantar Fasciitis?  I've rested now for a month and had my poor wife massage it and it doesn't seem to be making a difference. I'm extremely frustrated.
stretch
stretch
you can try the Strasbourg sock. It holds your foot flexed when your sleeping so the calf muscles stay extendid. running stores should have it.
also check your mechanics - you might wind up needing orthotics

Single leg calf raises help build a lot of lower leg strength. Doing them with your shoes off can also help with toe flexibility and strength as well.

My wife and I ran 5 this morning with our oldest 2 kids on their bikes for the first time. The 7 year old did great, but the 5 year old struggled a bit. Was still a fun outing
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Post by: slslbs on July 04, 2014, 08:07:20 PM
Ran a Fourth of July 4 miler this morning. Finished in 27:27/6:52p which was a little better than my 28 minute goal time.
Last race for me in the 30/34 Division!

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-07/F420D7D3-6D8B-4C45-8429-AD753C55F0F7_zpsfpeons6t.jpg)
Nice work
 :beers:
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Post by: mattstick on July 10, 2014, 09:17:27 AM

Doing my long run at 1:30pm today, got SPAC highlights queued up, current status: not stoked.

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Post by: Buffalo Budd on July 10, 2014, 09:34:48 AM
Good luck, 23 km sounds no bueno to me.
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Post by: Augustus on July 10, 2014, 01:05:22 PM
SPAC highlights?
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Post by: phil on July 10, 2014, 03:24:46 PM
SPAC highlights?

probably why he's not stoked
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Post by: slslbs on August 01, 2014, 07:19:00 PM
Jerry Garcia run in Cambridge last night
5K
21:39 (6:59)
only running about 15m /week, so pretty happy with that.

all followed by grilled chicken/ bbq pork dinner, free Harpoon IPA on tap, and dancing to Playin' Dead, a pretty good local cover band.
The "fake Bobby" apparently used to play the same part in DSO

and he wore short cut offs.

overall, a fun night
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Post by: Augustus on August 01, 2014, 07:30:24 PM
Awesome job!
Sounds like a sweet race!

Currently on day 10 of rest and kinda losing my mind.
Pulled/fractured something in my foot on a 14 miler.
Not sure how, but it's slowly getting better.
Wasn't planning on taking 2 wks off from training but I really have no choice.
Stir crazy!!!!?
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Post by: slslbs on August 01, 2014, 07:42:38 PM
yea, it's a blast. they have a music themed series all summer long. We always make the JG race

sucks about your foot.
If you want / need to do something - swimming and water running got me through a pulled groin a few years ago
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Post by: mattstick on August 01, 2014, 07:50:56 PM
I've been having a lot of trouble on my long runs. Cramping, upset stomach, exhaustion.

Decided to drop down from the 30k and run the 15k in 2 weeks.

More daily runs, more hills, more yoga and I will try to build up distance again in the fall.
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Post by: Augustus on August 01, 2014, 07:58:08 PM
I learned to cut tomato sauce in the two days prior to anything over 10 miles.
Also, switched from BLOX to dried fruit for fuel and haven't had much GI troubles since.

Summer sucks for training hard.
Maybe eye a good Fall half or full.
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Post by: mattstick on August 16, 2014, 10:35:58 AM
Race day. Feeling weird about it, should be fine tho
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Post by: Augustus on August 16, 2014, 11:40:01 AM
20k?
Good luck, dude!
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Post by: mattstick on August 16, 2014, 11:41:51 AM
20k?
Good luck, dude!

15K only! Gonna try and do a sub 1-hr 10K then cruise the last 5.
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Post by: Augustus on August 16, 2014, 11:59:14 AM
Go get 'em!
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Post by: mattstick on August 16, 2014, 09:49:43 PM
Had a great race. Beat that 90 minute goal by several minutes. Finished ~ 1:25
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Post by: antelope19 on August 16, 2014, 10:19:23 PM
Good Work!
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Post by: Augustus on August 16, 2014, 11:20:24 PM
Congrats!
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Post by: slslbs on August 17, 2014, 07:25:10 AM
great job
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Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 17, 2014, 03:13:16 PM
Congrats dude!  :beers:
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Post by: mattstick on August 18, 2014, 10:40:28 AM

I followed the 1:30 pace bunny from the start until about 9km, just before that mark I looked at my watch and realized we were about 2 minutes ahead of pace and I was feeling pretty good.

At the 9km water station I got out in front of the pace bunny and the 1:30 pack, legs were feeling good so I stayed out in front and started to push.  Hamilton 90 Scarlet > Fire kicked in and I really felt good.  By the time Fire on the Mountain was finishing I could see the 1:25 pace bunny.  I probably left a little in the tank because I didn't push it over the final km as some of the other people around me did.

It felt really good to race again, I'd forgotten the feeling of being out there with the other athletes and pushing yourself.

I was recently told by a chiropractor that consistantly running over 10km will lead to knee and hip complications later in life... not really sure how to feel about that, but I've decided to focus on some shorter distance runs for the remainder of the year.

My next race is the "Rail Path Run" which is a 45-minute race along a 2.1km loop, do as many loops as you can.
Then a month after that I'm doing the Blue Mountains 10km up in cottage country, for something a little different.

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Post by: Augustus on August 18, 2014, 10:52:57 AM
Nice work!
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Post by: mattstick on August 20, 2014, 11:19:50 AM
lolz
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Post by: Augustus on August 20, 2014, 04:56:51 PM
"Long distance ruuuuunner"
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Post by: jedifunk on August 25, 2014, 10:05:25 PM
lolz
hahaha... lookin good brah
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Post by: jedifunk on August 25, 2014, 10:07:24 PM
so after taking most of the summer off because of a strenuous soccer season, i'm back to running!

not starting out so well... its fucking hot & humid here right now (heat index was 93 on sunday for my last run).

i think i decided in the spring that my preferred mileage is about 7 miles... thoughts?

should i push myself? i can def get to double digits, but i found myself not enjoing my runs when i did that... i'd prefer to enjoy myself when running since i'm not doing it for any other reason.
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Post by: Augustus on August 26, 2014, 05:54:41 AM
Depends what your goals are.
If you're just running to blow off steam and get some great cardio, then 7 is more than suitable.

If you feel like you want to experience the race vibe (have you ever?), then maybe sign up for a 10k and smoke some fools!
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Post by: slslbs on August 26, 2014, 01:24:03 PM
agree. 7 is a nice run

no need to push yourself with distance, especially if you're not having fun.

if you wanted to push yourself but didn't want to go longer, go shorter and do some speed (tempo, fartlek, intervals)
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Post by: PIE-GUY on August 26, 2014, 01:30:00 PM
I've always ignored this thread... and I'm still not gonna start running.... but I've been swimming 4 days a week since the start of August. It feels good to get the machine going again. It's been about 10 years since I really even tried to do any real exercise.

Anyway, my neighborhood pool just closed for the season so I've been going to one of the big pools downtown. It's nice, but it's not sustainable if and when I get another job.

So, I think I'm going to join a Masters Team that practices at the JCC right near my house. It's an outdoor pool, but it's heated so they practice year-round. It'll be good to have a coach to guide my workouts!
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Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 26, 2014, 01:35:41 PM
I've always ignored this thread... and I'm still not gonna start running.... but I've been swimming 4 days a week since the start of August. It feels good to get the machine going again. It's been about 10 years since I really even tried to do any real exercise.

Anyway, my neighborhood pool just closed for the season so I've been going to one of the big pools downtown. It's nice, but it's not sustainable if and when I get another job.

So, I think I'm going to join a Masters Team that practices at the JCC right near my house. It's an outdoor pool, but it's heated so they practice year-round. It'll be good to have a coach to guide my workouts!


Love swimming, beats any run I've ever done for full body workout.
Keep it up PG, won't recognize ya the next time I see you.
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Post by: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2014, 01:41:10 PM
...fartlek...

Hahaha, fartlek
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Post by: Augustus on August 26, 2014, 03:39:12 PM
Swimming thread is that way, Spry >>>>>
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Post by: PIE-GUY on August 26, 2014, 04:24:15 PM
Swimming thread is that way, Spry >>>>>


...fartlek...

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Post by: Augustus on August 26, 2014, 04:27:20 PM
You know how you know you're in the wrong thread?
When you've never heard of Fartlek.

THAT WAY >>>>>??
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Post by: PIE-GUY on August 26, 2014, 04:29:04 PM
::drops wet pool farts in thread::
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Post by: Augustus on August 26, 2014, 04:30:13 PM
'magine if you ran and rode too?
Tri Guy
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Post by: PIE-GUY on August 26, 2014, 04:32:41 PM
'magine if you ran and rode too?
Tri Guy

not gonna happen.
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Post by: Augustus on August 26, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
'magine if you ran and rode too?
Tri Guy

not gonna happen.

Try, Guy.
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Post by: antelope19 on August 26, 2014, 06:07:04 PM
 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

love you guys
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Post by: jedifunk on August 26, 2014, 09:23:21 PM
haha... you people are funny!

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Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 26, 2014, 09:39:45 PM
You know how you know you're in the wrong thread?
When you've never heard of Fartlek.

THAT WAY >>>>>??


Hangs head in shame.  :shakehead:
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Post by: jedifunk on August 26, 2014, 10:40:44 PM
put in 5.6 miles tonight... getting back into the swing
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Post by: Augustus on September 07, 2014, 01:47:06 PM
"Easiest" 20 of my life this AM @ 8:57p.
My injured running buddy paced me on her bike to a sub-3.
So much easier in many aspects to have a talking pace going and just have the miles fly by.
Handed off my nutrition (dried fruit and Fritos) every 4 miles and switched out my bottle at 11.
The taper begins NOW!!
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Post by: jedifunk on September 07, 2014, 03:27:34 PM
"Easiest" 20 of my life this AM @ 8:57p.
My injured running buddy paced me on her bike to a sub-3.
So much easier in many aspects to have a talking pace going and just have the miles fly by.
Handed off my nutrition (dried fruit and Fritos) every 4 miles and switched out my bottle at 11.
The taper begins NOW!!
always the consummate professional
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Post by: Augustus on September 07, 2014, 03:42:23 PM
I'm just waiting for my Jedi 10+ post.
I'll cheer the shit out of that!
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Post by: mattstick on September 07, 2014, 04:10:59 PM
Pro training.
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Post by: Augustus on September 07, 2014, 04:26:56 PM
Thanks, guys.
Feeling strong/healthy ATM.
Hoping for a solid run in 3 weeks and an even better run 7 weeks after that.
Then looking for a month of rest!
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Post by: jedifunk on September 07, 2014, 08:21:56 PM
I'm just waiting for my Jedi 10+ post.
I'll cheer the shit out of that!
yeah, i really gotta get back in the swing of things again... fall running is perfect running though!
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Post by: Augustus on September 07, 2014, 08:24:43 PM
I hear that.
Today was the first low humidity day in weeks.
In been straight swampy for way too long out here!
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Post by: slslbs on September 08, 2014, 06:02:33 AM
nice
good luck
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Post by: mattstick on September 18, 2014, 02:11:27 PM

Loving my work run club. We meet at noon on Tuesday and Thursday, run somewhere between 5.5 and 7km, back at my desk after a shower by 1pm.

Decided I need more running clothes so I went all custy and bought this:

http://drygoods.phish.com/Product.aspx?cp=773_1428&pc=PHCT764

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Post by: Augustus on September 18, 2014, 04:07:39 PM
Nice!
(About the running club)
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Post by: jedifunk on September 18, 2014, 07:04:19 PM
really struggling to get back in the groove with my runs...

i've run twice in the last week, and neither was really that good of a run... pace was good (sub 8 min), but i didn't feel right on either, wasn't enjoying them, and actually ended up stopping early last night. not really sure what it is either.
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Post by: Augustus on September 18, 2014, 08:17:43 PM
Just keep heading out.
Maybe switch up your routine.
Run with/without music. Change your route.
Head out with a goal distance or time and don't stop until you hit it.
Ruts happen.
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Post by: Augustus on September 20, 2014, 01:53:42 PM
Great 10k this AM on the challenging Cow Harbor course.
Out of the top 20 finishers, half train in CO.
Hit my goal of sub-46 and now I'm one week out from the Yonkers Marathon.
Just a few 2s and 3s left!
(Peep the awesome bib number)

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/BCBC0521-4FF3-49F0-90F9-AB9088493720_zpsmu7jrmoy.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/A681E13D-4C95-4D7C-BA60-F09582A1B2B4_zps5t5jl4ao.jpg)
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Post by: mattstick on September 20, 2014, 01:58:06 PM
Fast!
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Post by: Augustus on September 20, 2014, 01:59:12 PM
Thanks!
Also won a cooler and $50 GC in the raffle!
Chyeah!
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Post by: slslbs on September 20, 2014, 02:00:16 PM
Nice. ( x2)
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Post by: jedifunk on September 20, 2014, 10:46:54 PM
well done Auggie!
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Post by: Augustus on September 21, 2014, 09:59:45 PM
Thanks, guys!
Been working through some knee pain as of late, so I'm happy the way yesterday went.
Achieved my goal and felt only slight discomfort early on a really long downhill.

Sunday is my return to the Marathon distance and I'm really excited despite getting a DNF at my last.
Training has been great. Playlist is set and I'm feeling pretty strong.
I honestly have no goal time for this one, just looking for a DF and to treat it as a hilly long run for Philly this November.

Getting some crisp weather out here! How's it going with everyone else?
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Post by: PIE-GUY on September 22, 2014, 11:43:29 AM
Swam 3000 yards yesterday and 2800 today... Today included about 800 pulling with paddles, which is basically strength training. I'm very sore.

I'm down over 30lbs from the start, though! I have about 25 lbs to go before I'm where I need to be.. then I can start eating to fuel the swims like a normal person does.

eta: I know... swimming thread that way --->
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Post by: Augustus on September 22, 2014, 11:44:37 AM
Nice work, SG!
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Post by: mattstick on September 22, 2014, 11:48:16 AM

Damn, losing 30lbs is impressive. WTG.
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Post by: Buffalo Budd on September 22, 2014, 12:16:33 PM
Holy shit PG, we're not gonna recognize ya.
Well done.  :clap:
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Post by: PIE-GUY on September 22, 2014, 06:11:59 PM
Thanks, y'all. I weighed in at 223.1 today. Sadly, that's 31.1 lbs lost since I started this on August 8th. Do the math... I was a fat-ass!!
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Post by: antelope19 on September 22, 2014, 06:19:17 PM
Spry guy, FTW!
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Post by: slslbs on September 22, 2014, 06:44:51 PM
Nice work
 :beers:

we normally don't let swimmers here, but will make an exception for you
 :wink:
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Post by: jedifunk on September 22, 2014, 06:53:48 PM
Swam 3000 yards yesterday and 2800 today... Today included about 800 pulling with paddles, which is basically strength training. I'm very sore.

I'm down over 30lbs from the start, though! I have about 25 lbs to go before I'm where I need to be.. then I can start eating to fuel the swims like a normal person does.

eta: I know... swimming thread that way --->
dude thats huge! well done!
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Post by: Augustus on September 28, 2014, 02:41:01 PM
Whew!
Tough course today and ran my PW of a 4:33  :lol:
Glad I finished, but it was a bad race for me.

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/24736EF2-A05D-45A1-A588-1685818DDE18_zps9ev0xyt4.jpg)

Philly is 8 wks away which will probably be my last full for a while.
I'm good at shorter distances, but the Marathon eats me up.

Beer!
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Post by: mattstick on September 28, 2014, 03:52:48 PM

A PW!  That's a lotta marathons, you can't be up for all of them.

I ran the Rail Path Run, 45 minutes, run as many KMs as you can.  I finished 8km with about 2 minutes left, so either I needed to run slower or faster...

Had a fun time though, nice small race.

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Post by: Augustus on September 28, 2014, 04:03:37 PM
Nice!
That's a cool race concept.
Kinda like the 72 hour track race they do in the Summer.
Anyone here wanna run 135 miles on an indoor track?
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Post by: jedifunk on September 28, 2014, 08:12:01 PM
Nice!
That's a cool race concept.
Kinda like the 72 hour track race they do in the Summer.
Anyone here wanna run 135 miles on an indoor track?

interesting ...
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Post by: slslbs on September 28, 2014, 09:08:18 PM
Nice!
That's a cool race concept.
Kinda like the 72 hour track race they do in the Summer.
Anyone here wanna run 135 miles on an indoor track?

let me think a minute






no.

btw nice job on the marathon
 :beers:
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Post by: Augustus on October 20, 2014, 09:52:02 PM
Been training for Philly on 11-23 and got a great opportunity today to run NYC in two weeks.
NYC works well with my program (was slated for 20 that day and ran 26 four wks ago).
Ran an effortless 18 last week and have been doing a bunch of midweek mid-7 medium runs (7-8).

Mutual friend decided not to run as his training has been thin, so I'm gonna scoop it from him (hopefully he doesn't back out!)
Not that bummed about running under someone else's bib and am actually really stoked to check NYC off the list!
I feel a good race in me!
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Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 20, 2014, 11:13:08 PM
So my buddy finished 140.7 km in 34:48 a couple of weeks back. He's been pretty hardcore for awhile now. Runs 30 km every day for a joke.
The crazy part about this is it was done on some of the wildest terrain in the province. Multiple elevations, rocks, streams, sand, etc., dude is a machine.

(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10513329_715358675223455_2683141984943859279_n.jpg?oh=7eddad2235a16eff7fd0f31b956e98c3&oe=54B7106C)

(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10649679_715358721890117_8908911930273368264_n.jpg?oh=d89141f215b3c8380796c1a871b4b3ab&oe=54B77A61)
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Post by: Augustus on October 21, 2014, 05:47:03 AM
Bad ass!
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Post by: Augustus on November 02, 2014, 05:12:34 PM
If you've seen my tweets, I've recently switched my endurance fuel to Tailwind Nutrition.
It basically replaces your GŁ/BLOX/caps and really helps with having to carry extraneous fuel on long runs and Marathons.

I use the "naked" flavor (which still has a slight sweet taste to it) as I hate the stickiness that my mouth feels after sipping Gatorade.
You mix a packet into your water and you'll get your electrolytes and 200 cals.

Been using it on medium distances but used it on a 20 miler today and felt zero fatigue.
Super even pace throughout and prolly my fastest 20 training run to date. In insane winds, too

It's a new product, but I'm really liking it.
If y'all plan on going long (running, cycling, bears), I'd try it out for yourself.
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Post by: slslbs on November 02, 2014, 05:24:50 PM
do you just pour it into the cup during races?
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Post by: Augustus on November 02, 2014, 05:31:49 PM
do you just pour it into the cup during races?

I premixed into a 20 oz. bottle.
And that was all the hydration/nutrition I needed for 20 miles.
The packets are small enough thatif you want to carry one during a Marathon, it would be easy to tear it open and refill your bottle at an aid station.
Today was cold, so I generally sip one ounce each mile.
I can see needing more for hotter days, tho.
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Post by: Augustus on November 03, 2014, 10:34:04 AM
Also, huge breakthrough yesterday.
Didn't look at my watch and set my app to 15 minutes with no other feedback.
So instead of getting pace/overall pace/time at every mile, I just got a chime of "15 minutes completed".

Set out for 3 hrs and just enjoyed every minute of it.
This is gonna be my plan for Philly in 3 wks.
No feedback. Just run my race.
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Post by: jedifunk on November 03, 2014, 11:36:42 PM
Also, huge breakthrough yesterday.
Didn't look at my watch and set my app to 15 minutes with no other feedback.
So instead of getting pace/overall pace/time at every mile, I just got a chime of "15 minutes completed".

Set out for 3 hrs and just enjoyed every minute of it.
This is gonna be my plan for Philly in 3 wks.
No feedback. Just run my race.
thats a great plan!

back a few years ago, i had been hot n heavy with the running, becoming more and more obsessed with splits and pace and mileage... and then one day i realized i no longer enjoyed my runs.. i didn't look forward to them, in fact, dreaded them, and generally hated it when i was running.

so i quit using the nike app, and just went running.... and i fell in love with running again!

so kudos to you for looking at it again, and just running!
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Post by: Augustus on November 04, 2014, 04:26:37 AM
Nice!
I hear ya about splits.
You become obsessed and while it can help, it does detract from the enjoyment of running.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 04, 2014, 09:44:52 PM
agreed.
unless I'm training for a race, I rarely run with a watch
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 22, 2014, 04:49:23 PM
Hey Aug - Good luck in Philly!!!!
 :beers:
 :beerbang:
 :rawk:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 22, 2014, 04:53:19 PM
Hey Aug - Good luck in Philly!!!!
 :beers:
 :beerbang:
 :rawk:


Yeah, this.
Pretty that cool people can track his progress (not that I'm doing that).
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 22, 2014, 06:56:20 PM
But you should!
Text PHIMAR 2874 to 72147

Thanks, guys!
Feeling pretty good about tomorrow.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 23, 2014, 12:07:43 PM
Had a great race today in Philly and set a new PR with a 3:47.
Super pumped and super sore!
Gonna go eat and celebrate in a bit.

5k on Thanksgiving morning is up next.
Trying to at least place, but we'll see what my legs say about all that.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on November 23, 2014, 01:12:06 PM
Had a great race today in Philly and set a new PR with a 3:47.
Super pumped and super sore!
Gonna go eat and celebrate in a bit.

5k on Thanksgiving morning is up next.
Trying to at least place, but we'll see what my legs say about all that.

 :beers: :beerbang: :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on November 23, 2014, 01:15:35 PM
set a new PR with a 3:47.

8:40s!

HELL YEAH.

 :beerbang:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 23, 2014, 01:46:39 PM
Awesome
Great job!!

 :clap: :clap:







Personally, I would go easy Thursday, but then I'm old
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 23, 2014, 02:10:48 PM
Well done, sir.

In PGLHAH news: I'm officially down 50 lbs this morning. Pretty shocking number... Not that I'm down that much, just that I was up enough that I could lose 50 and still be overweight (which I defitely am).

Next milestone will be getting down under 2 bills. Soon. Very soon.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mbw on November 23, 2014, 02:17:24 PM
nice job! 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 23, 2014, 02:18:57 PM
Thanks, y'all!
Not sure what my plan is for Thurs, but I'm resting until then.
Hopefully the legs will feel fresh enough for a sub-21.

Nice work, PG!
Keep it up! And off!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 23, 2014, 02:57:50 PM
Well done, sir.

In PGLHAH news: I'm officially down 50 lbs this morning. Pretty shocking number... Not that I'm down that much, just that I was up enough that I could lose 50 and still be overweight (which I defitely am).

Next milestone will be getting down under 2 bills. Soon. Very soon.

nice work
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Bobafett on November 23, 2014, 03:00:46 PM
Way to go august.  You look really happy all the time! 

And PG, you are one sexy beast.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on November 23, 2014, 04:02:47 PM
Well done, sir.

In PGLHAH news: I'm officially down 50 lbs this morning. Pretty shocking number... Not that I'm down that much, just that I was up enough that I could lose 50 and still be overweight (which I defitely am).

Next milestone will be getting down under 2 bills. Soon. Very soon.

Sweet dude....Go pick up something that's 50lbs and imagine you were carrying that all over the place all the time.  It's insane.  Good for you.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 23, 2014, 04:13:49 PM
That's kinda fucked up. I just carried upstairs a 25 lb bag of dog food and that shit was heavy. I carried around two of those for how long? 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 23, 2014, 04:22:17 PM
Yeah, man.
Even holding a ten pound plate or something and you can only think of the effects it has on your knees/back.
You'll be beach body ready in no time.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 23, 2014, 05:31:16 PM
Awesome stuff all around in here.  :clap:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 27, 2014, 11:18:19 AM
New 5k PR this morning.
20:10/6:29p

2nd in AG and 17th overall!
Stoked!

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/87AD912F-2B0A-4A63-A513-2275FDA15FE3_zpsm4fsi1yj.jpg)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 27, 2014, 11:19:34 AM
Attaboy! Can't believe you just ran a marathon 4 days ago.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 27, 2014, 11:23:28 AM
Attaboy! Can't believe you just ran a marathon 4 days ago.

Same here!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 27, 2014, 12:20:40 PM
Nice work again Aug!  :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 27, 2014, 12:25:56 PM
Attaboy! Can't believe you just ran a marathon 4 days ago.

unreal job
congrats 
:beers:

as for me 22:53, 7:22 pace, 6th for age
getting older, running less, and having a cold takes it's toll.
Oddly enough, even though I'm over 40 sec per mile slower than I was in my 40s, age grouping for big races is about the same (or better)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 27, 2014, 01:15:57 PM
Awesome job!
At least you're still out there!
But that's a great time at any age!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 27, 2014, 02:00:57 PM
You'd have me beat I'm sure sls.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 28, 2014, 04:25:23 PM
Updated results from yesterday!
They gave me the wrong medal 'cause I came in 1st place!
That's two consecutive 5k races that I came in 1st.... 8-)

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/34F02998-B7EC-456A-ADBD-6A99112DB5A8_zps6ajq3ila.png)

Top 2%!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 29, 2014, 01:01:38 AM
Congrats
 :beers: :beers:

eta - good thing you ignored my post about taking it easy
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on November 29, 2014, 05:36:30 AM
No stop signs!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: blatboom on November 29, 2014, 05:43:39 AM
No stop signs!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on December 01, 2014, 09:00:27 AM

Any of you d00ds run with bluetooth/wireless headphones?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: phil on December 01, 2014, 09:46:26 AM

Any of you d00ds run with bluetooth/wireless headphones?

I don't own a pair but I've borrowed a friend's a few times...some type of Motorola I think. Really sweet headphones but not sweet enough to make me go out and buy a pair
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on December 01, 2014, 09:48:38 AM
I don't but I am getting tempted to buy a Bluetooth GPS watch and then I'll need to do some earbud research.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on December 01, 2014, 10:03:38 AM

I bought some $25 ones on Amazon this morning, I'll report back.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on December 01, 2014, 03:26:09 PM
Are they still available?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on December 01, 2014, 05:34:56 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Bluedio-S2-headphones-generation-Retail-Gift/dp/B00J9A13VC
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on December 01, 2014, 05:49:42 PM
Uhhhhhh....I'll wait for your review!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on December 21, 2014, 11:17:19 AM
Officially signed up for my first Ultramarathon!
I'll be running the Dirty German 50k in Philly this May.

Training will be fun with a lot of timed runs and I've made my own schedule based heavily around this program.
 
http://cdn.running.competitor.com/files/2012/11/46_nat_r1.pdf

First half of 2015 is pretty solid with a 10 miler, two half marathons, 25k trail race and now this Ultra.
Let's train!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: PIE-GUY on December 21, 2014, 12:43:22 PM
Officially signed up for my first Ultramarathon!
I'll be running the Dirty German 50k in Philly this May.

Training will be fun with a lot of timed runs and I've made my own schedule based heavily around this program.
 
http://cdn.running.competitor.com/files/2012/11/46_nat_r1.pdf

First half of 2015 is pretty solid with a 10 miler, two half marathons, 25k trail race and now this Ultra.
Let's train!

That's nuts! Makes the 3000 yards I just finished swimming seem paltry.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on December 21, 2014, 12:47:41 PM
Nice work!

It's an easy intro into 50k trail running and I now have an official bucket list race....The Gorge 50km in Oregon.
Hopefully I can get into next year's race, so the training starts now.

Take 6 minutes and enjoy this amazing video.

http://vimeo.com/66273634
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on December 21, 2014, 01:18:36 PM
You might be crazy dude.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on December 21, 2014, 01:55:24 PM
You might be crazy dude.

Ever see/hear the Ben Gibbard interview on the Ginger Runner?
Dude has run a ton of Ultras. And he's pretty fast!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h8T9lgCqgk
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on December 21, 2014, 03:10:41 PM
great looking course

50 K - well, not that much farther than a marathon.

should be fun
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on December 21, 2014, 03:14:07 PM
See! That's my attitude as well!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on December 21, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
See! That's my attitude as well!

I just think of 50km as a metric marathon.








Not that I'll be running one any time soon.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on December 21, 2014, 04:23:17 PM
If you want to do a destination run and don't mind doing only 26.2 (or 13.1), check out the Big Sur marathon.
It was on my list for a while

http://www.bsim.org/Photos_Media___More/Marathon_Tour_Video.htm
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on December 21, 2014, 06:34:13 PM
That's such an awesome race!
I am kinda toying with running a Marathon in mid-April, too.
One year.....
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on December 21, 2014, 06:37:39 PM
What's it gonna take to get Sls, Sunrise, Matt and I to commit to running a full together?
Burlington, anyone? ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on December 21, 2014, 06:46:24 PM
I'd love to. I don't have the time to put in anything close to proper training - 20 miles a week is about all I can get in at this point
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on December 21, 2014, 07:29:10 PM
It's just like riding a bike!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on January 01, 2015, 01:40:18 PM
Any running goals for 2015?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on January 02, 2015, 05:27:27 PM
getting back to 4 runs per week, 20 - 25 m / week
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on January 02, 2015, 05:29:41 PM
Awesome!
That's a pretty solid schedule.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: antelope19 on January 04, 2015, 08:05:40 PM
getting back to 4 runs per week, 20 - 25 m / week

This

Also, got a Fitbit for Christmas and am looking forward to incorporating it into my exercise routine
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: PIE-GUY on January 09, 2015, 02:58:15 PM
Started this challenge yesterday - I'm insane. I really hope I can do it.

(http://i.imgur.com/goduwA2.jpg)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on January 09, 2015, 04:50:10 PM
Never heard of the running term "Burpees" before ;)
Good luck!

I'm starting 2015 off on the DL. Haven't ran since Christmas with a pretty bad knee injury.
Not even sure I'm getting much better or maybe I'm getting older and just recovering REALLY.FUCKING.SLOWLY.
Have a 10 miler next week at Blue Point Brewery that I might be sitting out.
50k training officially starts on 2/1 with the next goal race being the NYC Half in March.
I'm leading a small 1:40 pace group there so I really need to focus on health right now.
I'm way past the depression stage and all I want to do is get out there again!!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Play_It_Leo on February 21, 2015, 10:30:22 PM
My wife and I are signed up for a small half marathon in Washington, MO in May, including an overnight stay away from the kids. Ran 1:25 for a half about a month ago, only running 3 days a week. Hoping that running 4-5 days a week the next couple months will help me drop that a little lower.

Happy running all. Hope the knee is doing better Aug.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on February 22, 2015, 12:13:21 AM
good luck

between the weather and being super busy at work I'm having a hard time keeping up my schedule. In fact, I haven't run since last Sunday.
Hopefully tomorrow

good luck on the knee, Aug
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on February 22, 2015, 03:53:19 AM
Good luck and great time with a 1:25!
That's faster than my 5k pace!

Knee is actually doing great!
I've been big on Fish Oil for a few years but since I added a Glucosamine supp only a few DAYS ago, my knee has been feeling fresh again!
Truly insane as I thought I was starting my path of lifelong knee soreness.

This Winter has been brutal for running!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on March 01, 2015, 04:17:54 PM
NYC lottery drawing on Tues!
I've put in so many times for this thing.
I just wanna run it ONCE!

NYC Half is in 2 weeks and is a slightly different course (they shut down Times Square!) and might be my most challenging race yet.
Really hoping to break 1:40 (7:27p) which is doable, but tough with the kind of long training I've been doing for the 50k in May.
Another crazy hilly half 6 days later that will serve more as a shake out training run.

Signed up for the NJ Marathon as my last long run before the 50k, but I'm actually hoping to PR by a few minutes.

Good, easy 18 miler this morning at a pretty sweet pace, so that's promising.

Gonna be getting crazy around here!
What's everyone up to??
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on March 01, 2015, 05:17:11 PM
nice work Aug.
I'm a low key, after work as a relaxer runner.
but I had to join a gym this winter with an indoor track.  too dangerous to run outside around here this winter.
my knees didn't like my half training last year.  hopefully this year, I'll get a half in.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on March 01, 2015, 05:21:47 PM
Nice!
Yeah, you guys got rocked.
Interesting to see Boston Marathon stats after the race this year.
I've been training with my friend who is running her first Boston and is looking for a sub 3:30.
She's all about hillwork!

You still got a speedy half in you!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on March 03, 2015, 12:39:47 AM
she's very wise re - hills

sub 3:30 is quick
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on March 15, 2015, 04:07:15 PM
Set a sub-100 minute goal for today's NYC Half Marathon and finished in 1:38:48/7:32p!
Great race all around!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: justjezmund on March 15, 2015, 05:04:29 PM
Fucking kidding me!  730 pace is awesome. Congrats on a great time.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Hicks on March 15, 2015, 05:10:13 PM
I guess I shouldn't brag about the 30 min 5K I ran today?    :-D
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on March 15, 2015, 05:44:10 PM
I guess I shouldn't brag about the 30 min 5K I ran today?    :-D

You should!
Nice work!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on March 15, 2015, 05:56:24 PM
great work
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Hicks on March 15, 2015, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: Augustus link=topic=13325.msg770392#msg770392  date=1426455850
I guess I shouldn't brag about the 30 min 5K I ran today?    :-D

You should!
Nice work!


Thanks man, 30 seconds slower than last year because I slacked on training but on to the Cinco de Mayo run!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on March 15, 2015, 06:48:37 PM
Nice jobs all around boyz....
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on March 15, 2015, 08:00:20 PM
Fucking kidding me!  730 pace is awesome. Congrats on a great time.

Seriously--that's a hair faster than the pace I ran my first full marathon (still my PR)...





















...when I was 24.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on March 16, 2015, 12:01:30 AM
Now THAT is an insane time!
Running NJ next month and am gonna TRY to finish in the 8:30's.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on March 16, 2015, 01:18:14 AM
Dude, your 1/2 marathon split is a solid minute faster than that. You will crush 8:30.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 15, 2015, 07:26:01 PM
Dude starts celebrating before he crosses finish line.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

(http://fat.gfycat.com/FlawlessAlienatedGermanshepherd.webm)

Full article here.


http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/04/oregon-runner-celebrates-with-the-crowd-early-promptly-loses-in-horrifying-fashion?utm_source=fb-RunnerEarlyCelebration&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=facebook (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/04/oregon-runner-celebrates-with-the-crowd-early-promptly-loses-in-horrifying-fashion?utm_source=fb-RunnerEarlyCelebration&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=facebook)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 15, 2015, 08:40:08 PM
LOL

looks like Leon Lett
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 26, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
Ran NJ this AM in 3:48:06/8:43p.
Ran insanely great splits up until 19 and then fell apart.
Still happy with the overall time, but the beating sun for the with zero shade for the last 15 miles caught up to me and ruined my chance at a new PR.
Missed it by 45 seconds!
Anyway, still happy with the race.
Running LI next weekend and def hoping to PR.
High Mileage Spring rolls on!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 26, 2015, 06:34:02 PM
Holy cow, that seems pretty decent.
Nice job and good luck on the next.  :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 26, 2015, 06:45:47 PM
I actually just LOL'd at the "pretty decent."
Yeah, I was looking for a faster time, but had mentally prepared for a much worse time around the 24 mark.
Kinda OK with my time.
LI next weekend and my 50k in 3 wks.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 26, 2015, 09:21:28 PM
nice job
 :beers:

good luck in the LI
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on April 26, 2015, 10:25:27 PM
Dude! :beerbang:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 27, 2015, 08:01:27 AM
I actually just LOL'd at the "pretty decent."
Yeah, I was looking for a faster time, but had mentally prepared for a much worse time around the 24 mark.
Kinda OK with my time.
LI next weekend and my 50k in 3 wks.

When I said pretty decent, it was in relation to your own past performances, lol.
I would have dropped dead before the 8 mile mark.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 27, 2015, 10:04:05 AM
Looking to knock a good chunk off this weekend.
Tired of these 3:40's...;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 27, 2015, 10:38:35 AM
Looking to knock a good chunk off this weekend.
Tired of these 3:40's...;)

Yeah, how about you pull up your socks, slacker.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 27, 2015, 10:59:30 AM
I'm trying! Trust me!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on April 27, 2015, 11:14:07 AM
Also, I ran with the 3:40 group for about 18 and the pace leader had just run the USA 24hr championship. Aside from him running a 3:40 Marathon just days after, the real crazy part is that he ran 159 miles (256k)!
6+ marathons! Insane!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 27, 2015, 09:37:00 PM
Also, I ran with the 3:40 group for about 18 and the pace leader had just run the USA 24hr championship. Aside from him running a 3:40 Marathon just days after, the real crazy part is that he ran 159 miles (256k)!
6+ marathons! Insane!

slacker
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on May 01, 2015, 01:26:50 PM
So as some of you may know, I quit smoking cigarettes back on February 15th.  A few weeks later, at the end of February, I joined a gym, and started running again.  I have been doing strength training 3 days a week and running 1-3 days a week.  I have been very committed to the weights (3 days a week for all of March and April)  but it took me a little while to get back into the swing of running, however, April was an awesome month as far as running in concerned and I have literally never felt better in my entire life.
Now to why I am posting in here: a week ago on Thursday i went for a run by my house, a perfect 5.5 mile loop right on the bluffs.  About halfway through my run I am noticing some pain on the top of my left foot near my ankle.  After maybe running a quarter of a mile longer it becomes extremely apparent that there is some seriously wrong with my foot, as I am in some serious pain.  Only problem is that I was only about halfway through my run so I ended up hobbling home for over 2 miles, which seriously sucked.
So here I am, over a week later, and I am headed for the orthopedic office, as I am thoroughly convinced I either have some ligament damage or a stress fracture/break in my ankle.  My ankle actually feels a lot worse then it did a week ago  :frustrated:
More then anything I am just bummed because I was really starting to hit a groove as far as getting into shape is concerned (down 10 pounds and 8% body fat)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on May 01, 2015, 04:42:31 PM
Xrays were clean, so..

I got the boot!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 01, 2015, 05:04:56 PM

Clean X-Rays are good.  I had some pretty bad tendonitis at one point, my only serious running injury.

Probably it's your body reminding you to take things a bit slower.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 01, 2015, 07:38:58 PM
Nice.
Definitely ease up once the boot comes off.
You'll have plenty of time to crank out miles when you're healthy again.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 01, 2015, 09:05:54 PM
Nice.
Definitely ease up once the boot comes off.
You'll have plenty of time to crank out miles when you're healthy again.
when coming off an injury warm up and stretch

good luck
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on May 01, 2015, 09:56:16 PM
So.... who's the fastest Pauger? :police:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 02, 2015, 01:11:01 AM
So.... who's the fastest Pau
ger? :police:

Running or rhymin'?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on May 02, 2015, 01:58:54 AM
Nice.
Definitely ease up once the boot comes off.
You'll have plenty of time to crank out miles when you're healthy again.

I will ease up when the boot comes off.
New goal of mine, though, is to be able to run a marathon faster than Aug..
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 02, 2015, 05:58:56 AM
Nice.
Definitely ease up once the boot comes off.
You'll have plenty of time to crank out miles when you're healthy again.

I will ease up when the boot comes off.
New goal of mine, though, is to be able to run a marathon faster than Aug..

That's a great goal!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 03, 2015, 01:44:47 PM
4:10:37/9:37p today at the LI Marathon.
Better than last year's DNF!
Not my best race, but I'm glad to be freakin' done with that course!
50k in 2 weeks!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on May 03, 2015, 06:12:28 PM
Wait, you ran 2 marathons in 2 weeks?!? That's insane.

I didn't even realize people did that!!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 03, 2015, 07:16:14 PM
Wait, you ran 2 marathons in 2 weeks?!? That's insane.

I didn't even realize people did that!!!

Oh, people do MUCH crazier than that!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on May 04, 2015, 03:14:55 AM
4:10:37/9:37p today at the LI Marathon.
Better than last year's DNF!
Not my best race, but I'm glad to be freakin' done with that course!
50k in 2 weeks!

Nice dood!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 04, 2015, 09:45:06 AM
Wait, you ran 2 marathons in 2 weeks?!? That's insane.

I didn't even realize people did that!!!

Oh, people do MUCH crazier than that!

your a better man than me

good luck in the 50 K
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on May 04, 2015, 09:44:04 PM
You got this Aug, wish I had your drive.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 17, 2015, 03:49:51 PM

Ran my first 50k trail race today in 5:50.
Super humid and hot and a deceptively hilly course.
Happy with a sub-6!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 17, 2015, 04:03:13 PM

Ran my first 50k trail race today in 5:50.
Super humid and hot and a deceptively hilly course.
Happy with a sub-6!

good job, Joey!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Bobafett on May 17, 2015, 05:42:37 PM
Seriously awesome aug.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on May 17, 2015, 07:58:38 PM
Seriously awesome aug.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gainesvillegreen on May 17, 2015, 08:08:59 PM
Seriously awesome aug.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mbw on May 17, 2015, 08:20:43 PM
I congratulate you on this insane behavior. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on May 17, 2015, 08:41:12 PM
Dude.


 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 17, 2015, 08:41:40 PM
Oh, thanks!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 18, 2015, 07:14:18 AM
nice work
 :beers:

where was the race?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 18, 2015, 08:04:29 AM
Thanks!
The race was in Pennypack Park in Philly.
Absolutely gorgeous park with miles and miles of trail, stream crossings, bridges, climbing and with all types of terrain.
The course description has it listed as a "mostly flat" course.
I'd like to punch that dude in the face 'cause he's a liar.

The distance was fine but like I posted, the heat and humidity got you early on.
Almost a quarter of my field DNF (only ~120 finished) and almost 2/3(!) of the 50 milers dropped out with only 42 finishers.
Fun day trip with the fam (they went out to eat and to a hands-on museum in the city) and a very fun race vibe.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on May 18, 2015, 12:05:41 PM
That's insane man, good for you.

I don't even think I could run a mile w/o stopping. I haven't tried for years.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: susep on May 18, 2015, 12:08:36 PM
31 miles is a serious haul esp in nature, nice work Aug! 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 18, 2015, 12:12:43 PM
31 miles is a serious haul esp in nature, nice work Aug!

Thanks!

That's insane man, good for you.

I don't even think I could run a mile w/o stopping. I haven't tried for years.

You should go find out!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 24, 2015, 10:45:39 AM
New 10 Mile PR this AM.
1:14:07/7:25p
4th in AG

PUMPED
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on May 24, 2015, 01:59:37 PM
That's insane man, good for you.

I don't even think I could run a mile w/o stopping. I haven't tried for years.

You should go find out!

Good one!  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 24, 2015, 09:54:24 PM
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on May 24, 2015, 10:57:17 PM
New 10 Mile PR this AM.
1:14:07/7:25p
4th in AG

PUMPED

Good for you, dood!

I'm planning on doing a 10 mile this October, would love to get close to 1:30.. we will see though
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 25, 2015, 06:41:41 AM
Plenty of time to train for that pace!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on May 25, 2015, 08:38:56 AM
That's insane man, good for you.

I don't even think I could run a mile w/o stopping. I haven't tried for years.

You should go find out!

Good one!  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 25, 2015, 08:57:07 AM

Looking at racing at running in 6, 10 and 15K races in August/September

Kinda sick of spending $50 - $80 to run in the big races, so I'm looking for smaller more interesting events.

6K takes place on Toronto Island and is hand timed with hand-written bibs
15K is a "night race" which starts at 8pm and requires everyone to wear headlamps
10K is at the Zoo

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 25, 2015, 08:59:43 AM
Those all appeal to me.
Do all 3!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 25, 2015, 09:01:33 AM
Also, $50-$80 for big races in the NYC area is not a real thing.
Reg for NYC Marathon (if you get in thru the lotto) is almost at the $300 mark this year.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 25, 2015, 09:14:54 AM

You should save yourself some money and come up here to run something, stay in our guest room...

http://www.runguides.com/toronto/runs


Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 25, 2015, 09:18:34 AM
I definitely wanna run a Marathon in Canada!
Might not be in the cards for me this year, tho :(
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on May 25, 2015, 09:20:21 AM

You should look at Ottawa for next year.  Fun course that runs through Quebec and back across the bridge into Ontario with a great view of Parliament.

Lots of elite athletes in the 5K and 10K races the night before, everyone lines the streets to watch.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on May 25, 2015, 09:29:45 AM
Is that the one that has that giant reflective globe-thing along the course?
If so, that's the one I want to run!

My wife's friend is getting married out-of-nowhere on 10/10.
Just got the call this week which means I had to transfer my reg for the Hartford Marathon that day to next year.
It also means I won't be doing my first back2back of Hartford/Newport this year.
It also means that I am looking for anOther Fall full that doesn't fall on a day that someone we know is getting married on.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on June 10, 2015, 08:18:04 PM
Been feeling really good on the road/trails lately, but started to get a pain in my foot after my run Tuesday.

Went to the Dr. today and she said it could be a stress fracture, or just strained tendons. I get the x-Ray results tomorrow.

Taking the day off work to RICE tomorrow, hoping it heals up quickly.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on June 11, 2015, 12:24:20 AM
Hope things work out well for you, Matt!

Good luck!
Title: Hi
Post by: Kate on June 16, 2015, 12:07:45 AM
The marriage of music and running!  This is indeed the appropriate thread for my inaugural post; what a lovely discovery, and rather unique among the major Dead & Phish  boards.  I feel an instant kinship! / peace, K
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on June 16, 2015, 06:07:53 AM
Hi!
What kind of running have you been doing lately?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on June 16, 2015, 09:31:10 AM
welcome!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fastfingers12 on June 16, 2015, 09:36:09 AM
This Amsterdam release has been serving as a pretty good runners aid! :music:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on June 16, 2015, 11:47:27 AM

No running for at least 3 weeks.  Apparently I had an old running injury that I re-damaged, and I've done significant damage to the joint/tendons in my big toe.

This is all very depressing.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on June 16, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
Big toe?
Good thing you got 9 more!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: emay on June 16, 2015, 04:20:22 PM
Just started to get into running....think this is my first time in this thread
Ran a mile and a half and felt like I was going to die.
What is a good routine to get into? Everyday? Every other day?
Not really training for anything just want to get in better shape
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on June 16, 2015, 04:48:41 PM
Big toe?
Good thing you got 9 more!

Yeah big toe.  It's been a week now and it's starting to feel a bit better, still some pain.
Title: Heat
Post by: Kate on June 16, 2015, 07:08:31 PM
Thanks so much for the welcome Aug & Sls!  I'm about 6 mos. into training after an 18 mos. recovery - meaning NO running - from 2 Achilles tears, one of which required surgical repair, back in Feb-Mar '13.  Nonetheless, since October, I've rebuilt to 40 mile weeks with a 15 mile Saturday long run each of the last 4 wkends...all on trails.

Had most of my hair chopped off this morning (g'bye pony tail) in response to the onset of regular 90 degree days with high humidity here in the southeastern Appalachians, but with no regrets by this afternoon's post-work 7 miler in sweltering heat.  Also, had my trail buddy - a terrier - shaved close on Saturday.  So, we're skinned and ready for the Summer solstice...Woot!

The musical selection for today's run came from the Dead's curiously neglected Download Series, specifically, volume 8 from what - on any given day - might be my favourite tour:  Fall '73 (in this case 12/10).  Good lord, but Keith and Jerry enjoyed a creatively energetic onstage rapport before their respective drug induced, post-hiatus declines**; yet, even so, this show belongs to Bob, who's contribution from the usually staid string rhythm component is palpably distilled in your left speaker/headphone on this magnificent SBD.  Anyway, time to launder my salty UA heat gear in prep for a Xerox copy of today's run tomorrow.  peace  :syf:/K

**Edit:  In retrospect, this broad judgment must be qualified by declaration of my love for much of '76, just about ALL of '77, and the seismic highs of '78 before "the split", to include one of my absolute all-time favourite shows - 5/14/78./K
Title: emay...
Post by: Kate on June 16, 2015, 08:08:18 PM
...hi!  Just saw your post...1.5 miles to start - especially in heat - is remarkable.  Not everything works the same for everybody, but let me say that my efforts at running throughout my teens and early twenties were defined by recurrent injury cycles and attendant despondency.  Then I discovered this video -

http://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Running-Faster-Fewer-Injuries/dp/B000A7GEGW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1434499778&sr=8-1&keywords=evolution+running

- which spurred research into shoes that would facilitate a natural footstrike.  To summarize the last 4-5 years (before suffering the injury described above, which was  simply the result of high-mileage hubris), I (1) dumped wedge-heeled shoes (you know, thick heel padding tapering to decreased cushioning in the forefoot); (2) started running with a mid-to-forefoot strike (versus a heel strike - watch the video, you'll see); (3) slooooooooowed down; (4) built mileage at an equally modest pace (no more than a 10% cumulative increase in mileage from week-to-week); and (5) began running trails (decreased impact force in addition to uneven terrain that helps build accessory musculature). 

I went from aspiring to 10Ks to running ultramarathons in just a couple years without any significant injuries (until I got cocky) or having even started with the intention of doing so; but, no matter your current goal, just start running everyday (with 1 or 2 rest days weekly - you'll figure it out based on your body's needs) in the right shoes while concentrating on form.  And for heaven's sake, don't feel self-conscious about carrying water (I own a couple different hydration belts (Amphipod & Katoa) as well as stand-alone bottles with a handstrap).  Please let us know how it's going!  :clap: /peace, K

Edit:  Off to watch Abby & Co. in World Cup play...hopefully we're out of group tonight!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on June 16, 2015, 08:15:54 PM
I've never really heard of people being self conscious of carrying a bottle, but I'm definitely guilty of discrediting my mileage for a particular run and thinking I can get away with not bringing hydration/nutrition.
Now that the temps are getting up there, I'll always bring my handheld for even a 4M in the evening.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on June 17, 2015, 11:07:01 PM
Just started to get into running....think this is my first time in this thread
Ran a mile and a half and felt like I was going to die.
What is a good routine to get into? Everyday? Every other day?
Not really training for anything just want to get in better shape
I would start with every other day
and agree - most important is to get the right shoe for you. it's worth it to go to a store that specializes in running.
start out slow
avoid the mid day heat if you can
drink water
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on June 19, 2015, 10:47:35 PM
I actually downloaded the Couch to 5K app and used that to get into running.  I found it was a great way to get started.  If you are a little further along you can start a few weeks in.

My big excitement was last weekend.  got up to 5.5 miles,PR for distance, and at the same time not only had my first every under 7 minute mile, I ran 3 of the 5 in less than 7 minutes.  Need to have a big cup of coffee and sudafed before every run.

Just started to get into running....think this is my first time in this thread
Ran a mile and a half and felt like I was going to die.
What is a good routine to get into? Everyday? Every other day?
Not really training for anything just want to get in better shape
I would start with every other day
and agree - most important is to get the right shoe for you. it's worth it to go to a store that specializes in running.
start out slow
avoid the mid day heat if you can
drink water
Title: Bring it on Bill!
Post by: Kate on June 19, 2015, 11:31:01 PM
For the last week+ it's as though a massive dome was placed over the southeast, and while interesting to watch radar as storm lines skirted the otherwise invisible high pressure boundary from TX north to the upper Midwest then east, the strain of running 90F days with increasing humidity has been taking it's toll.  Fortunately, Bill has bullied his way into the region and we're now catching rain bands down in SE KY/W VA. 

Congrats Guy!  Aside from a couple visits to the local HS track every couple weeks for 800 intervals (ugh), I do no speedwork.  Are you fartlek training at mile intervals throughout your 5 milers or just trying to sustain an anaerobic pace for as long as possible?  Regardless, you'd dust me. 

Gonna hit the bed with a prayer for about 4 hours of unrelenting showers on the trails beginning at dawn! g'night/K
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on June 21, 2015, 01:05:13 PM
My wife got me a new watch for Father's Day.
Great timing(!) as my Garmin barely keeps a charge these days.

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/042B868D-4A8B-4D2B-AEBC-95008AE07089_zpsjol29qri.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/C3A6404D-1FAE-4847-A50F-D278874EBB70_zpsnwy3yyqe.jpg)

Pretty simple all around with a fat battery life.
Band also swaps out for when you're feeling extra smelly.
Stoked!

06/28 Mass Park Firecracker 5K
07/04 Bellmore Striders 4M
08/23 Selden Hills 10K
09/07 Long Beach Labor Day 5M
09/19 Cow Harbor 10K
09/27 Suffolk County Marathon
10/18 Bimbler's Bluff 50K
11/26 Massapequa Turkey Trot 5K
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on June 23, 2015, 01:10:35 PM
cool

where is the Suffolk marathon?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: emay on June 23, 2015, 02:01:52 PM
hit 2 miles yesterday
watch out 5k !
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on June 23, 2015, 02:43:12 PM
cool

where is the Suffolk marathon?

It's the inaugural running, so I kinda want to do it.
Starts and ends at Heckscher State Park and runs thru Sayville, Patchouge, Blue Point and maybe some more.
Have a lot of friends doing the half, so it should be a fun day.
Come run it!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on June 23, 2015, 10:44:18 PM
should be fun

right now a marathon isn't the cards for me

half - maybe
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on June 24, 2015, 10:06:23 AM

3 weeks with no runs is torture.  Going for therapeutic massage today though.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on June 24, 2015, 03:41:48 PM
Sucks, dude.
We've all been there.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on June 24, 2015, 08:38:07 PM
Sucks, dude.
We've all been there.

You're telling me bro! 3 weeks with no running?

Man, I've been there approximately 150-180 times!

Okay, I'll leave now.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on June 24, 2015, 09:34:59 PM
For a non-runner, you sure do post a lot in the Runner's thread...;)
Sounds to me like you want to start!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on June 24, 2015, 10:53:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_0ava_MSSw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_0ava_MSSw)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on June 25, 2015, 01:34:06 AM
For a non-runner, you sure do post a lot in the Runner's thread...;)
Sounds to me like you want to start!

Guilt is slowly building...
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on June 28, 2015, 07:36:06 PM
Just ran a local 5k
20:30/6:35p
4th place in AG, but I'm still happy to run a sub-21.

Also, evening races are fucking weird.

New 50k program starts tomorrow.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on July 03, 2015, 11:12:17 PM
Nice Augustus

I was happy that 3 weeks ago I ran my first sub 7min mile.  Then 2 weeks ago on a 5 miler I had a 6:23, 6:30, 6:50 miles along with my best 5k time.    I normal run about 7:30.    Considering that 3 years ago this week I was 275 pounds I'll take it.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on July 03, 2015, 11:48:11 PM
Yeah, man!
Keep it up! And off!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on July 04, 2015, 09:00:01 AM
nice ( x 2)

I usually run the Jerry Garcia race end of July on the Charles, but because of construction of the path along the route and troubles finding a new venue, it's been cancelled.
I'll have to find something else
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on July 04, 2015, 11:02:15 PM
Yeah, man!
Keep it up! And off!
Thanks.

5k PR today and I felt awful during it.   Called it the hops and barley hill run.
Dropped over 100 lbs from my high. Should have seen the docs reaction when my resting pulse was a 48 in the office and my BP was 102/60.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on July 05, 2015, 05:03:21 PM
Awesome

I need you to come to my office and talk to my patients
I'm sure they will listen to you more than me
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on July 05, 2015, 11:38:13 PM
Awesome

I need you to come to my office and talk to my patients
I'm sure they will listen to you more than me

My doctor asked me to speak to my friend that referred me to him.

1. Stopped high fructose corn syrup
2. 3 weeks later stopped highly processed foods
3. 3 weeks later stopped all artificial sweeteners

As soon as I stopped the artificial stuff the weight poured off, its poison, pure poison.  I also do Insanity or Insanity Max 30  5days a week and run 1-2.

Basically, when people ask I tell them to eat real food.  If you can't grow what's in it you have no business eating it.  That and food does not come through a car window.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: emay on July 06, 2015, 02:42:54 PM
still keeping up with the 1.5-2 mile routine with about 1-2 off days a week even with this sinus infection, sometimes it hard to get the circular breathing going but its been working
feeling good and getting a good nights.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on July 25, 2015, 06:53:40 AM
and this week I learned that elevation does make a difference.  Been in the mountains for a week.   Day 1 really felt it, pace was way off.  Now at Day 7 pace is better, but still not quite back.   didn't think the extra 1500 feet would make that much of a difference.  Although all the craft beer might be a contributing factor.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on July 29, 2015, 07:01:06 PM
I think we scared Kate! Remember her!

Guyute, elevation is KING.
Such a great way of maximizing your workouts.
I've been doing a great deal of Hillwork for my upcoming race.
The race has ~2,500ft of vert...in the first half!
Strategy is to run that 15.5 as conservatively as possible and open up a bit on the second half.
I'm currently averaging 2,000ft of air per week.
Pace is down, but it's all good. I know I'm getting stronger.

50k is less than 11 weeks out.
Here's some pics of the peak.

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/345A0EA9-FED1-4C4B-9AD3-05B5CEC34F52.png_zpsyri1l7qb.jpeg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/2DCDA879-ACB7-4F16-9490-F3C09A1AE95D.png_zps3wuccxgs.jpeg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/73CCD1F3-3CDE-4E45-9D95-CDC8B1F27152.png_zpsn7bqzb20.jpeg)

Suffolk Marathon is 7 weeks out and training has been going great.
Really hoping to PR there.
Been strongly thinking about (if I get drunk enough I'll sign up for) the Bucks County Marathon in mid-November.
13.1 miles out and 13.1 back alongside the Delaware River in sweet foliage.
Mostly packed gravel/fire road surfaces and a small race size of 500.
Convince me not to do it!

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/D4A4EBFD-399B-470F-A70F-863340A85BE0.png_zpsuwl4qcjh.jpeg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/46CCA19C-45D7-490D-BED7-3FF6197F524B.png_zpsjbuzx7np.jpeg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/0BC1F5B1-F9B5-42FC-A5DD-B1FEA3742EF8.png_zpsi3j1abld.jpeg)

What's the scoop?!
How's everyone dealing with the heat?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on July 30, 2015, 04:35:46 AM
I've been dealing with the heat by hitting the treadmill.  I still haven't pushed past 4.8 miles since my foot injury, but I'm not so worried about distance as I am maintaining pace and feeling strong doing it.

Also, you should definitely do that Bucks County race, it looks like a gorgeous run!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on July 30, 2015, 01:40:52 PM
Nice! Glad you're getting your miles in!
Don't sweat distance, it will all come when the time is right.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on July 30, 2015, 09:46:39 PM
That's one impressive looking hill to climb
Bucks Co Marathon looks nice

beating the heat by running before work (5:30 AM)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on July 30, 2015, 09:57:30 PM
That's one impressive looking hill to climb
Bucks Co Marathon looks nice

beating the heat by running before work (5:30 AM)

Nice!
That seems like the only way lately.
I snuck out at 4:30 this AM for 9.5 before and it was still a total slosh fest out there, even without a shirt.
Ran another 5.75 this eve and it was brutal.
Heard it's gonna break tomorrow, tho  :-D
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on July 31, 2015, 07:36:05 AM
That peak looks great, can I ask where that is?   

It was brutal this week.  I was going around 7pm and just drenched at the end.

50k is a little too rich for my blood.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on July 31, 2015, 01:34:01 PM
That race is in Guilford, CT.
50k is just like a 5k, but 10 times the amount.
Cake!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on July 31, 2015, 11:00:44 PM
I know Guilford.  I had a friend who was going to run in it, but he isn't sure now.  He just did a 50 miler and found out he needs hernia surgery now.

Should be a fun race, nuts, but fun.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on August 15, 2015, 02:00:03 AM
So I knew my uncle was some kind of big deal in running.  I don't think he is a huge deal but it has always been a huge part of his life.  He is 60 and still killing it every day.  Anyway, someone put his stats up on FB and I thought they were pretty cool.  I don't know anything about any of the times, but I was impressed by the sheer number of tris (112!) and marathons (62!) he has done.  The dude is a machine.  Here are his stats that some lady threw up on an ultra running page.  Thought you guys might get a kick out of it:

1 mile: 4:27.4 (Portland, track)
10km: 32:43 (Canby, Or, road)
15km: 50:15 (Portland, Cascade Run Off)
10 mi. 54:30 (Track, Portland)
1/2 Mar. 1:11:45 (Cottage Grove, Or)
25km: 1:27:25 (Eugene, Or)
Marathon: 2:29:54 (Boston '82)
50km: 3:09:15 (Seattle '81)
50 miles: 5:27:34 (Chicago '82)
100km: 6:58 (Torhout '86)
100 mi: 17:48 (WS '82)
13 overall Ultra wins, 2nd in 6
6 course records (Cow Mt. 50, Timberline Trail 41, Coast Hills 50, Four Peaks 50, Pacific Crest Trail 50, Grants Pass 50 road)
Ultras 42
Marathons 62
Ironman Triathlons 14 (PR 9:50:25)
Triathlons (any) 112
Vs. Ann Trason 1 win, 1 loss (Cal Endurance run 50, WS 100 '90)
sub 3:30 50k's =6
sub 5:40 50's =3
sub 2:40 Mar. =9
sub 10 hr. Ironman= 2
sub 11 hr. Ironman = 8
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on August 15, 2015, 05:45:46 AM
Whoa!!!
That 100M time is at Western States, the most prestigious of all the 100M races and that time is SICK!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on August 15, 2015, 12:37:46 PM
Whoa!!!
That 100M time is at Western States, the most prestigious of all the 100M races and that time is SICK!

Yeah, he has been doing Western States since the start of it. Here is a pic of him weighting in at the finish in 1990....
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on August 16, 2015, 09:15:08 AM
That Boston PR is near Elite time.
About a minute shy per mile.

Do you know if those Ultra CR (course records) still stand?
Really impressive stuff!
How'd you not get roped into training with him? ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on August 16, 2015, 02:25:19 PM
That Boston PR is near Elite time.
About a minute shy per mile.

Do you know if those Ultra CR (course records) still stand?
Really impressive stuff!
How'd you not get roped into training with him? ;)

 I think all those CRs are still standing.  I do get roped into biking with him.  Even when I am in peak shape, smokes me and I am 15 years younger.  We do a bunch of riding together, I can rarely, if ever, keep up.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Guyute on August 16, 2015, 10:31:18 PM
That's just sick.  Some of that is real crazy, like 62 Marathons.

I think he may need a hobby...........
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on August 16, 2015, 11:45:11 PM
He's a beast

I'm in awe
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 17, 2015, 07:56:33 AM
He's a beast

I'm in awe

Amazing what the human body can endure.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on August 17, 2015, 08:04:19 AM
True, but I'm sure he'll (or any runner) will tell you how important the mental game is in racing.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 07, 2015, 12:12:35 PM
Annual Labor Day 5M this AM.
34:37/6:56p which was good enough to place!
Set a sub-35 goal, so I'm happy with how I raced.
Marathon this Sun!!

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: jedifunk on September 07, 2015, 12:20:31 PM
Annual Labor Day 5M this AM.
34:37/6:56p which was good enough to place!
Set a sub-35 goal, so I'm happy with how I raced.
Marathon this Sun!!

dude thats a sick time! well done!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on September 07, 2015, 12:55:06 PM
Annual Labor Day 5M this AM.
34:37/6:56p which was good enough to place!
Set a sub-35 goal, so I'm happy with how I raced.
Marathon this Sun!!

dude thats a sick time! well done!
congrats

good luck Sunday
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 07, 2015, 12:55:31 PM
Thanks, guys!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 13, 2015, 03:54:25 PM
Suffolk Marathon today in 3:51/8:49p.
Supra humid so I'm cool with the result.
5th place in the Clydesdale division.

5 weeks until the Bluff 50k!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on September 14, 2015, 07:29:56 AM
great job in that weather
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 17, 2015, 06:13:00 PM
Thanks!
Turns out that I actually placed 3rd in my division!
In a MARATHON!!
Pretty crazy, especially since I wasn't crazy about my time.
Anyway, The Great Cow Harbor 10k is in 2 days.
Tough course with plent of elites and close to 5,500(!) runners.
My favorite race of the year!

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/AFF5D60B-392D-4097-85A9-98ECAA6791A0_zps30x7xppa.jpg)

Also, I was the only New Yorker to place in my division.
Bringing the bronze home to LI!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on September 17, 2015, 08:55:48 PM
Fantastic
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on September 18, 2015, 07:03:32 AM
Holy Aug, that's incredible.
Nice work.
I've finally gotten back on the horse. Been out 3 times this week and plan to continue.
Only small distances after work since I don't have a ton of time.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 18, 2015, 04:30:22 PM
Nice!
Keep it up!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 20, 2015, 12:45:15 PM

Ran the Great Cow Harbor 10k Championship yesterday.
Tough course that draws elites (Ryan Hall, Deena Kastor, Fernando Cabada) and HUGE support from the town of Northport.
Ran a course PR of 45:02/7:15p.
Missed my goal of sub-45, but I absolutely gave 110% yesterday.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on September 20, 2015, 02:53:09 PM
Good effort 1 week after a marathon
Well done  :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on October 18, 2015, 06:31:10 PM
Ran a totally GNAR 50k today that was measured at 53k.
It was really tough with close to 3,000ft of climbing.
A lot of actual climbing for long stretches and hazardous terrain.
Glad it's over!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 18, 2015, 06:51:37 PM
You my friend, are an animal!  :clap:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: GBL on October 18, 2015, 07:46:34 PM
Ran a totally GNAR 50k today that was measured at 53k.
It was really tough with close to 3,000ft of climbing.
A lot of actual climbing for long stretches and hazardous terrain.
Glad it's over!

BEAST mode! Good for you, dood! 🏃🏃🏃🏃
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: birdman on October 18, 2015, 08:05:20 PM
Call me when you finish 100k. Yawn
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 18, 2015, 08:21:37 PM
awesome  :beers:
3000 ft of climbing in a 50K is just wrong.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on October 18, 2015, 09:33:13 PM
awesome  :beers:
3000 ft of climbing in a 50K is just wrong.

Especially when it's mostly in the 1st 15M!
If you're ever near Guilford, CT, there's some sick views and trails to be had.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on November 08, 2015, 08:43:37 PM
Pretty pretty epic running today.
Ran the After the Leaves Have Fallen Half Marathon today near New Paltz, NY.
GORGEOUS views, perfect running weather, friends, hills and trails!
Almost wish I wasn't racing and stopped to take some pix at one of the many overlooks.
1,100 feet of climbing with a total elevation of 2,300 feet.
Epic!

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/76615D67-2250-4ED7-950A-DCF582C03DFB_zpsnlwnj4qu.jpg)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on November 09, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
^^^That's f'ing beautiful. I'm feeling a half-marathon workout coming today or tomorrow; if I make it it'll be here:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on November 09, 2015, 12:28:26 PM
Nice! Do you have a race on the horizon?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on November 09, 2015, 02:38:18 PM
Nah, just staying in shape so I can outrun all the angry husbands, etc.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on November 09, 2015, 03:51:42 PM
Great plan!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2015, 03:54:12 PM
Nah, just staying in shape so I can outrun all the angry husbands, etc.

 :sbw:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on November 09, 2015, 05:55:02 PM
Here's some great vid of yesterday's race taken by one of the gals from my club.

http://youtu.be/F2DJiRUyCdw
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: blatboom on November 14, 2015, 02:27:15 PM
my old man just ran the Richmond Marathon in 4:04! 65 years old, could not be more proud. he qualified for the Boston Marathon but I don't think he's got it in him  :-)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: blatboom on November 14, 2015, 02:27:44 PM
my legs are sore just from walking the dog  :|
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 14, 2015, 02:32:16 PM
my old man just ran the Richmond Marathon in 4:04! 65 years old, could not be more proud. he qualified for the Boston Marathon but I don't think he's got it in him  :-)
nice
his qualification is good for 2017 also. No reason he can't do it if he wants. He has time to rest before he trains again
congrats
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on November 14, 2015, 03:16:05 PM

Ran 6 minutes on the treadmill Thursday.  First running since the foot injury.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on November 14, 2015, 05:33:51 PM
Badass time, Mr. Boom!
What's his running history?
First Marathon???

Matt-congrats on your 6 minute run!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: blatboom on November 14, 2015, 05:46:14 PM
he did the Marine Corps marathon in '84 and I think he beat that time today :-o he's been a runner his whole life though so I guess that apple fell off the tree and rolled into a swamp or something

he enlisted into the Marines at 18 and did a tour in Vietnam then was a Richmond cop/detective until he retired a few years back but now he's a sheriff's deputy in an outlying county, guy just can't stop. I wish I was 1/5th of the man he is
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on November 14, 2015, 05:53:43 PM
Nice!
Just run, dude.
It's in your blood.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on November 26, 2015, 11:25:46 AM
Finally broke 20 minutes this morning at the local (and huge!) Turkey Trot!
Ran a 19:57/6:25p on a day where I wasn't feeling strong but I dug hard that last mile and even harder during the last quarter mile when the finish was close.

AND, with this new PR, I close out the 2015 season on a high note by setting a new PR in EVERY distance I raced this year!
5k, 5M, 10k, 10M, Half Marathon, Marathon AND 50k!!
Looking forward to 2016 and even bigger goals!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 26, 2015, 11:47:27 AM
Holy shit Aug, that's some big achievements. Good stuff  :clap:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on November 26, 2015, 12:42:56 PM

Amazing work.

I ran 20 minutes for the first time in a long time today.  Toe is feeling OK.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on November 26, 2015, 12:46:29 PM
Thanks, guys!
Just keep at whatever is comfortable, Matt.
You'll be full throttle in no time!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on November 26, 2015, 12:52:57 PM

Being in the comfortable 8-10K range in the spring is my goal, once the snow's melted get back to running to and from work again.

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 26, 2015, 05:00:18 PM
Good work Matt

Awesome job Aug!!!!!

I've only been running about 1/2 as much as I want / should. Did OK in the Featster 5 this AM considering. 22:53, 7:23 pace, 7th in AG

10 years and 2:30 from my PR.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on November 26, 2015, 05:18:52 PM
Excellent work!
Master's is only tougher!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on November 26, 2015, 06:11:17 PM
Nice work boys!  Keep it cranking! 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Hicks on November 26, 2015, 06:31:15 PM
You guys are animals!  Gotta get back out there too. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fastfingers12 on December 04, 2015, 10:15:08 PM
First off, you guys are beasts! I just recently got back into running at the beginning of November. Just hit a personal best of 4 miles at an 8 min pace. Not much, but since its the furthest I have gone in a single run I'm pretty proud!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on December 05, 2015, 12:23:36 AM
Nice work!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on December 05, 2015, 08:05:11 AM
Nice work!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on December 07, 2015, 08:10:08 PM
got shut out of the Vermont Covered Bridges Half Marathon

that was tougher than getting Phish tix

 :frustrated:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on December 08, 2015, 03:50:33 AM
got shut out of the Vermont Covered Bridges Half Marathon

that was tougher than getting Phish tix

 :frustrated:

Dang!
I've heard so many good things about that race.
Definitely on my list.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: emay on December 31, 2015, 11:01:37 AM
Just ran a 5k on nye day in captiva island fl never thought I'd say that
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on December 31, 2015, 01:52:56 PM
Nice work emay  :clap:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on December 31, 2015, 03:11:06 PM
Nice job!
Keep it up!
Did you break 20? ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: natronzero on April 10, 2016, 11:54:00 AM
Ran the Capitol 10K this morning! First race I've participated in since the 2014 Cap 10k, and only the 4th or 5th time in a year I've gone over 5 miles, so all things considered I'm pretty pleased with how I did.
I also biked 3 miles there and 3 miles back...oof   :-o :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Can't wait for the next one!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on April 10, 2016, 12:13:02 PM
Nice work!
Keep it up!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 10, 2016, 09:11:41 PM
Nice work!
Keep it up!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: EdBanky on April 10, 2016, 09:13:53 PM
Eyyy. Didn't know you were back in Austin natron. Welcome back!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mistercharlie on April 11, 2016, 05:56:22 AM
So I've never been a runner unless something was chasing me or I was trying to get to something very quickly. But since getting the Accounting job I have put on 40 pounds. So yesterday morning I went for my first run/jog. I had intended to run my entire neighborhood but made it about halfway before I ran out of gas. I made it for a mile though. Next weekend I'm going to give it another go and see if I can make the whole two miles around. One step at a time.

Today my leg muscles hurt and I still have a small pain in my lungs. I may need better stretching techniques before going out next time.   :|
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on April 11, 2016, 06:56:45 AM
I would stick with a mile for a bit and maybe try to get out again during the week.
Shin splints are the "too much too soon" killer.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on April 11, 2016, 08:25:38 AM

Agreed, also just run 1 minute, walk 1 minute, do that for a week, then run 2 minutes walk 1 minute - until you're at 10 & 1.

Slow and steady.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mistercharlie on April 11, 2016, 11:46:09 AM
Thanks for the advise. I do plan on continuing to run. I need to stay healthy.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on April 11, 2016, 12:10:42 PM
That's the right approach!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on April 11, 2016, 02:00:57 PM
I posted on FB a while back, but I finally got into the NYC Marathon!
Have you run it before, SLS?
This definitely shifted my race calendar for the 2nd half of the year.
I just dropped down from next month's 50k to the 25k in hopes of placing in my Division.
No Ultras this year after 2 last season.
Just concentrating on racing now (4 races and 4 PRs so far!) and then shifting my focus to the two Fall Marathons I'll be running.
Either way, the calendar is stacked!!

*01/16 Blue Point 10M (1:11:58) 7:11p
*03/12 Kings Park15k (1:07:31) 7:14p
*04/02 Aspire 10k (42:02) 6:45p
*04/10 Greenwich Half (1:34:26) 7:13p
*04/24 Leatherman's Loop 10k
*05/15 Dirty German 25k
06/05 New Hyde Park 8k
*06/13 Heckscher 5M
*06/20 Sunken Mdw 10k
06/26 Firecracker 5k
*06/27 Belmont Lake 5k
07/04 Bellmore 4M
*07/11 Bethpage 5k
*07/18 Hempstead 4K
*07/25 Caumsett 5k
*08/01 Robert Moses 5k
08/06 Massapequa Mile
*08/08 Jones Beach 5M
09/05 Long Beach 5M
09/17 Cow Harbor 10k
*10/08 Hartford Marathon
10/30 Suffolk Marathon
*11/06 NYC Marathon
11/20 Long Beach Trot 10k
11/24 Massapequa Turkey Trot
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 11, 2016, 02:30:14 PM
Holy shit Aug, that is an intense schedule.
I'm pretty amazed at anyone who can keep that up all year.
 :clap:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on April 11, 2016, 02:44:47 PM
#lifestyle
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on April 11, 2016, 05:46:47 PM
that's quite the schedule.

Never ran NY - would like to at some point

good luck!!!!

(in case you're wondering : Boston - unofficial, Erie PA, Baystate, and Maine)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on April 11, 2016, 06:11:53 PM
that's quite the schedule.

Never ran NY - would like to at some point

good luck!!!!

(in case you're wondering : Boston - unofficial, Erie PA, Baystate, and Maine)

Bandit!!
You might as well put in the NYC lotto each year.
Your chances are better being out-of-state.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on April 11, 2016, 07:36:55 PM
I posted on FB a while back, but I finally got into the NYC Marathon!
Have you run it before, SLS?
This definitely shifted my race calendar for the 2nd half of the year.
I just dropped down from next month's 50k to the 25k in hopes of placing in my Division.
No Ultras this year after 2 last season.
Just concentrating on racing now (4 races and 4 PRs so far!) and then shifting my focus to the two Fall Marathons I'll be running.
Either way, the calendar is stacked!!

*01/16 Blue Point 10M (1:11:58) 7:11p
*03/12 Kings Park15k (1:07:31) 7:14p
*04/02 Aspire 10k (42:02) 6:45p
*04/10 Greenwich Half (1:34:26) 7:13p
*04/24 Leatherman's Loop 10k
*05/15 Dirty German 25k
06/05 New Hyde Park 8k
*06/13 Heckscher 5M
*06/20 Sunken Mdw 10k
06/26 Firecracker 5k
*06/27 Belmont Lake 5k
07/04 Bellmore 4M
*07/11 Bethpage 5k
*07/18 Hempstead 4K
*07/25 Caumsett 5k
*08/01 Robert Moses 5k
08/06 Massapequa Mile
*08/08 Jones Beach 5M
09/05 Long Beach 5M
09/17 Cow Harbor 10k
*10/08 Hartford Marathon
10/30 Suffolk Marathon
*11/06 NYC Marathon

11/20 Long Beach Trot 10k
11/24 Massapequa Turkey Trot

Dude.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on April 11, 2016, 11:10:47 PM
In my defense, I'm only doing Suffolk if two of my other teammates run it as it is as scored race for the USATF and we will most likely win all of the team points for that one.
Otherwise, super stoked for Hartford and NYC!

Edit: Pretty sure that it's a go...;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: natronzero on April 12, 2016, 10:23:06 AM
Eyyy. Didn't know you were back in Austin natron. Welcome back!

Thanks man! The NW is amazing and I had some great times, but Austin is and will always be home.

So I've never been a runner unless something was chasing me or I was trying to get to something very quickly. But since getting the Accounting job I have put on 40 pounds. So yesterday morning I went for my first run/jog. I had intended to run my entire neighborhood but made it about halfway before I ran out of gas. I made it for a mile though. Next weekend I'm going to give it another go and see if I can make the whole two miles around. One step at a time.

Today my leg muscles hurt and I still have a small pain in my lungs. I may need better stretching techniques before going out next time.   :|

Definitely what the other guys said, start slow and don't hurt yourself. That would really keep you from running.
I don't know if other runners experience this, but I did notice with myself though as I was trying to go further distances, that I would start off feeling pretty good for the first mile or so, then starting the second mile I would hurt and hate myself and want to die, and then right around completing the second mile the pain would ease and I could breathe comfortably again, and I could usually make it a ways further.
Obviously your mileage may vary (pun always intended), and not hurting yourself is a bigger priority than pushing further.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mistercharlie on April 23, 2016, 10:49:04 AM
The past two weeks I've done the minute of running/minute of walking like Matt suggested and have ran every Saturday morning and Wednesday evening. Today I did 2 minutes running/1 minute walking and I pushed it for the whole two miles. It may have been the funky-ass Prince concert I was listening to that gave me that extra something today( http://www.panicstream.net/vault/prince-08181988-rotterdam-holland/ ).

I'm on the track to getting rid of this beer gut!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 01, 2016, 10:31:25 AM
1st race of the year
5K Step Up for Colleen
22:12 (7:08 p), 2nd in AG
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Igbo on May 01, 2016, 11:21:20 AM
Can't believe I'm posting in here since I'm not really a "runner." But recently began running 3x a week anywhere from 3-5 miles each time. City running is running 1-3 blocks at a time then waiting for the light to change. (I appreciate the break).

Ran my first 5k of the year. Ran the Redskins Draft Day 5k yesterday. Was super fun. At the end ran through the players tunnel and finished the race on the 50yd line.

Going to run a couple more 5ks with a goal of finishing a 10k by the year end
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 01, 2016, 11:55:43 AM
^^
that sounds like a blast
keep it up
 :rawk:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on May 01, 2016, 11:58:16 AM
Excellent work, guys!
Keep it up, Igbo!
Sub-21 on the horizon, sls!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 01, 2016, 03:42:27 PM
I don't think I've gotten below 21 since my 50th b-day
that horizon might be in the past.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on May 12, 2016, 08:01:34 PM
first run of the year coming up in a week and few days.
Harpoon 5 miler.
always love the fresh beer from the brewery after.  the run isn't so bad either  :laugh:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on May 12, 2016, 08:03:39 PM
Best of luck and have fun!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: VDB on May 12, 2016, 09:23:32 PM
Beer runs are the best.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on May 12, 2016, 09:25:42 PM
Beer runs are the best.
they have non beer runs?  I have those moved to my spam folder automatically.

Best of luck and have fun!
thanks  :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: birdman on May 13, 2016, 06:00:14 AM
My wife ran the Harpoon 5 miler last year. I stayed back at the Brewery and drank beer like a champ. I enjoyed it thoroughly. My buddy DJs  the dance party in  the tent after the race. Stop by and say Hi, Bvaz.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 13, 2016, 08:43:28 AM
How could I not know about this?
I'm working that day anyway

I expect to see you at the Garcia run (also partially sponsored by Harpoon)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on May 13, 2016, 09:27:17 AM
My wife ran the Harpoon 5 miler last year. I stayed back at the Brewery and drank beer like a champ. I enjoyed it thoroughly. My buddy DJs  the dance party in  the tent after the race. Stop by and say Hi, Bvaz.
the lottery shut me out last year  I've run it a number of years though previously.
I'll go ask the DJ to play Twiddle.

How could I not know about this?
I'm working that day anyway

I expect to see you at the Garcia run (also partially sponsored by Harpoon)
I missed the Garcia run the last 2 years because I was leaving for Gathering of the Vibes.
the route will need to be changed again as that last stretch of that course is under construction and has been for over a year now.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: birdman on May 13, 2016, 05:46:46 PM
How could I not know about this?
I'm working that day anyway

I expect to see you at the Garcia run (also partially sponsored by Harpoon)
How could I not know about this?
I'll have to check this out.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on May 13, 2016, 09:10:50 PM
Obviously, this all just adds up to an autumn "race weekend" in VT.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 14, 2016, 08:24:59 AM
How could I not know about this?
I'm working that day anyway

I expect to see you at the Garcia run (also partially sponsored by Harpoon)
How could I not know about this?
I'll have to check this out.

http://baevents.com/garcia/index.html
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on May 14, 2016, 09:44:52 AM
How could I not know about this?
I'm working that day anyway

I expect to see you at the Garcia run (also partially sponsored by Harpoon)
How could I not know about this?
I'll have to check this out.
good news that this series of runs is resuming.  so close to work and it is a nice run.

http://baevents.com/garcia/index.html
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on May 15, 2016, 08:24:40 AM
^^
this race typically sells out - not sure what is going to happen this year because they had to cancel last year.

Obviously, this all just adds up to an autumn "race weekend" in VT.

will there be beer?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on June 25, 2016, 12:11:58 PM
Lahey Hospital Oncology 5K
the nurses where I work started a team in memory of LBS.
There were 26 of us, we raised over $2,000

21:21, 6:53 paced, 6th overall, 2nd in AG (damn, still haven't gotten a 1st)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on June 25, 2016, 02:07:10 PM
Excellent work and an even better cause!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on June 27, 2016, 03:27:27 PM
Lahey Hospital Oncology 5K
the nurses where I work started a team in memory of LBS.
There were 26 of us, we raised over $2,000

21:21, 6:53 paced, 6th overall, 2nd in AG (damn, still haven't gotten a 1st)

That's incredible Steve, great stuff.  :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on July 04, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
5K
21:32, 6:58 pace

2nd in AG
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on July 04, 2016, 11:33:37 AM
Nice work!!
You still got it!!!

Ran the Bellmore 4M this AM.
26:53/6:43p
PR!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on July 04, 2016, 12:53:52 PM
Nice
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on August 06, 2016, 03:08:32 PM
Congrats to Aug on a mile PR this morning: 5:38.  I don;t know a lot about running, but that seems pretty legit to me!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: birdman on August 06, 2016, 03:21:50 PM
Congrats to Aug on a mile PR this morning: 5:38.  I don;t know a lot about running, but that seems pretty legit to me!
I'm betting he had a tail wind.

Nice work Aug.
Very impressive
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on August 06, 2016, 03:55:33 PM
Thanks, guys!!!
Actually, a pretty decent headwind!
Nice time trial for next month's Main Street Mile.
Hoping to break 5:30.

14 on tap for tomorrow morning!!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on August 06, 2016, 05:11:49 PM
Thanks, guys!!!
Actually, a pretty decent headwind!
Nice time trial for next month's Main Street Mile.
Hoping to break 5:30.

14 on tap for tomorrow morning!!!

Nice dude...I'm planning on getting out for a few hours tomorrow myself.  It's been really hard for me to find time to train in the summer between work and vacation and the kids being around all the time.  Running is nice because even when you do go on vacation, you just throw on your shoes and go.  Not so much with a bike so I have found myself having to go 4-5 days without a single ride.  At least my legs are always fresh!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on August 06, 2016, 05:20:04 PM
Nice!
I wait all week for my long runs.
Great chunk of time to just clear out your head.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 06, 2016, 07:04:48 PM
5:38?
Shit Aug, nice going.  :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on August 06, 2016, 07:19:22 PM
5:38?
Shit Aug, nice going.  :beers:

Thanks!
Also set a 1k PR while I was at it at 3:27 ;)

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: VDB on August 07, 2016, 06:00:24 PM
Good work on the PRs.

A friend and I have been telling each other we'll do a half marathon. Just need to set up a training program and stick to it. I sure don't run as much as I once did, and my endurance could use some work.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on August 08, 2016, 03:35:38 PM
Good work on the PRs.

A friend and I have been telling each other we'll do a half marathon. Just need to set up a training program and stick to it. I sure don't run as much as I once did, and my endurance could use some work.

I feel like there are so many things I could say to this right now..  :angel:

anyhow, nice work AUG.
I need to get back to the running love I started in Chicago... maybe when this house shit is settled.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: VDB on August 08, 2016, 05:07:03 PM
Good work on the PRs.

A friend and I have been telling each other we'll do a half marathon. Just need to set up a training program and stick to it. I sure don't run as much as I once did, and my endurance could use some work.

I feel like there are so many things I could say to this right now..  :angel:


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Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on August 09, 2016, 12:01:34 AM
very strong work Aug,
congrats
 :beers:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Igbo on August 09, 2016, 09:23:04 AM
Reaching out to the Paug runners for some advice. Probably a noob running question but.....

About a month ago i was on my normal run/walk of about 5-6 miles. Towards the end of the run I felt pain in my left foot lower arch. Stung to even walk. Went to a local runinng store and they said potentially its plantar fascitis. They recommended buying plantar specific inserts and no running for a couple of weeks. I did all this and the pain did subside.

My question is changing my foot plant when i run... i was a heel to toe runner (more like slamming my flat foot on the surface) previously. I have now tried to focus on being a toe to heel runner to help minimize the pain. IT feels unnatural to me... Should i continue to try to do this or go back to my old style since it's my more natural way to run?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on August 09, 2016, 09:36:36 AM
Don't change your stride.
Unfortunately, many runners deal with Plantar.
Some run through it and some rest.
Inserts will help, but you might want to look into shoes (like the Hoka Clifton) that will give you more of a cushion.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Igbo on August 09, 2016, 11:27:58 AM
Thanks Aug! I'll look out for those shoes
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on August 09, 2016, 11:32:19 AM
agree - don't change your stride. I have VERY flat feet and pronate. I had to get prescription orthotics. I could not run without them. I wear them all the time.  A while back, I asked my podiatrist about toe - heel. He said there are other problems with that, too and recommended I continue heel - toe.

A good running store will be able to check your mechanics. Depending upon what the inserts do, you may do better off with a stability shoe or a neutral shoe. I used to run in stability shoes, but when I got my orthotics changed (after a bad case of PF) my podiatrist recommended a neutral shoe, and my mechanics are fine. As long as I stretch my calves, I have no problem.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on August 11, 2016, 04:40:54 PM
Been having a pretty great season of racing thusfar.
We close out our LI State Park Series each year at Jones Beach with a 5M.
Brutally hot this year! Anyway, here's a pic of me finishing in a lot that we all have been in.

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/8808D509-190B-4975-ADE5-87C3338E991C_zpsdiplwqck.png)

I'm getting deep into Marathon training (3 in 5 weeks!!) and I'm feeling pretty fresh!!!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: emay on August 11, 2016, 04:41:59 PM
 :clap: nice!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on August 11, 2016, 06:19:07 PM
great job Aug.
it's awesome on what you have and continue to accomplish.
keep it up.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on August 11, 2016, 07:32:06 PM
Thanks, guys!
Last year, I set a new PR in each distance that I raced.
I thought it would be crazy to do it again this year, but all I have left to set a PR in is the Marathon.
And I have three chances to prove myself.
If anyone is interested in numbers, here's my race stats from 2016....


*01/16 Blue Point 10M (1:11:58) PR (7:11p)
*03/12 Kings Park 15k (1:07:31) PR (7:14p)
*04/02 Aspire 10k (42:02) PR (6:45p)
*04/10 Greenwich Half Marathon (1:34:26) PR (7:12p)
*04/24 Leatherman's Loop (1:04:34) (10:23p)
*05/15 Dirty German Trail 25k (2:05:22) PR (8:04p)
*05/22 Robbie's Run 5k (20:04) (6:27p)
*06/05 New Hyde Park 8k (33:35) PR (6:45p)
*06/13 Heckscher 5M (33:52) PR (6:46p)
*06/20 Sunken Mdw Trail 10k (46:01) (7:24p)
*06/26 Firecracker 5k (20:17) (6:31p)
*06/27 Belmont Lake 5k (20:13) (6:30p)
*07/04 Bellmore 4M (26:52) PR (6:43p)
*07/11 Bethpage 5k (20:43) (6:40p)
*07/18 Hempstead 4K (15:57) PR (6:25p)
*08/01 Heckscher 5k (19:45) PR (6:22p)
*08/06 Massapequa Mile (5:38) PR (5:38p)
*08/08 Jones Beach 5M (34:10) (6:49p)
*09/03 Farmingdale Mile
09/05 Long Beach 5M
*09/17 Cow Harbor 10k
*10/08 Hartford Marathon
*10/30 Suffolk Marathon
*11/06 NYC Marathon
*11/13 After the Leaves Half
11/20 Long Beach Trot 10k
11/24 Massapequa Turkey Trot
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on August 11, 2016, 10:01:32 PM
Thanks, guys!
Last year, I set a new PR in each distance that I raced.
I thought it would be crazy to do it again this year, but all I have left to set a PR in is the Marathon.
And I have three chances to prove myself.
If anyone is interested in numbers, here's my race stats from 2016....


*01/16 Blue Point 10M (1:11:58) PR (7:11p)
*03/12 Kings Park 15k (1:07:31) PR (7:14p)
*04/02 Aspire 10k (42:02) PR (6:45p)
*04/10 Greenwich Half Marathon (1:34:26) PR (7:12p)
*04/24 Leatherman's Loop (1:04:34) (10:23p)
*05/15 Dirty German Trail 25k (2:05:22) PR (8:04p)
*05/22 Robbie's Run 5k (20:04) (6:27p)
*06/05 New Hyde Park 8k (33:35) PR (6:45p)
*06/13 Heckscher 5M (33:52) PR (6:46p)
*06/20 Sunken Mdw Trail 10k (46:01) (7:24p)
*06/26 Firecracker 5k (20:17) (6:31p)
*06/27 Belmont Lake 5k (20:13) (6:30p)
*07/04 Bellmore 4M (26:52) PR (6:43p)
*07/11 Bethpage 5k (20:43) (6:40p)
*07/18 Hempstead 4K (15:57) PR (6:25p)
*08/01 Heckscher 5k (19:45) PR (6:22p)
*08/06 Massapequa Mile (5:38) PR (5:38p)
*08/08 Jones Beach 5M (34:10) (6:49p)
*09/03 Farmingdale Mile
09/05 Long Beach 5M
*09/17 Cow Harbor 10k
*10/08 Hartford Marathon
*10/30 Suffolk Marathon
*11/06 NYC Marathon
*11/13 After the Leaves Half
11/20 Long Beach Trot 10k
11/24 Massapequa Turkey Trot
I get it now.  this running business is just a way to compensate for a lack of Phish 3.0 stats.
you're just a stats guy.   :evil:
but seriously, nice work.  you inspire me to get off my ass and just get a half marathon done.  then I can dream of a marathon.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on August 12, 2016, 05:15:52 PM
Thanks!
I love stats!!!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on August 16, 2016, 06:28:42 AM
Strong work
 :beers:

Are you really gonna run 3 marathons in 4 weeks?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 16, 2016, 07:08:49 AM
Are you really gonna run 3 marathons in 4 weeks?

This.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on August 16, 2016, 08:19:19 AM
Are you really gonna run 3 marathons in 4 weeks?

This.

Yep!
3 weeks btw Hartford and Suffolk. Plenty of recovery time.
Pretty much just taper weeks again.
NYC is the following weekend. I did consecutive weekends last season and it wasn't bad at all.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on September 24, 2016, 01:06:01 PM
Kelly Mann Memorial 5K today to benefit Bridges fund for battered women

21:36, 6:58 p

3rd in AG, 10 overall
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 24, 2016, 01:37:26 PM
Kelly Mann Memorial 5K today to benefit Bridges fund for battered women

21:36, 6:58 p

3rd in AG, 10 overall

 :clap: :crazy: :clap:

you guys are all over it.
i love it.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on September 24, 2016, 02:37:18 PM
Nice work!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on September 24, 2016, 06:29:28 PM
Nice work!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on September 24, 2016, 07:05:05 PM
How often/far do you usually run, SLS?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on September 25, 2016, 09:26:32 AM
"full schedule" is 4 x /week, 4 - 6 miles week days, 6 - 8 miles Sunday, one track day. (20-25 m / w)
Lately it's been 3 x per week, 4 - 5 miles week days, 6-7 Sunday, one track day (15m / w)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on September 25, 2016, 09:56:16 AM
Nice!
Those are some solid weeks!
What's next?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on September 25, 2016, 12:24:49 PM
Got out on the back roads for 12 cloudless miles last Wednesday; that was mint.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on September 25, 2016, 04:46:47 PM
Got out on the back roads for 12 cloudless miles last Wednesday; that was mint.

My man!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on September 26, 2016, 12:53:09 AM
Reaching out to the Paug runners for some advice. Probably a noob running question but.....

About a month ago i was on my normal run/walk of about 5-6 miles. Towards the end of the run I felt pain in my left foot lower arch. Stung to even walk. Went to a local runinng store and they said potentially its plantar fascitis. They recommended buying plantar specific inserts and no running for a couple of weeks. I did all this and the pain did subside.

My question is changing my foot plant when i run... i was a heel to toe runner (more like slamming my flat foot on the surface) previously. I have now tried to focus on being a toe to heel runner to help minimize the pain. IT feels unnatural to me... Should i continue to try to do this or go back to my old style since it's my more natural way to run?

Just catching up on this thread.  I am def not a runner, but I did get into it a couple of years ago when my bikes were in storage.  I did try to switch from heel strike to toe strike with mixed results.  I guess everyone will have an opinion.  Anyway, unrelated to running, I had debilitating plantar fasciitis for almost two years.  The only way I could get up and go to work was to pop about 4 Advil every morning.  Thrashed my liver.  I limped everywhere, it sucked.  FWIW, I was first told to sleep with a stretching brace, then I was told and got custom ($$) orthotics and finally after 2 years of going to foot doctors and all that, I went to the mack orthopedic surgeon for the Knicks and he told me he could fix it with surgery.  I went under the knife and wore a cast up to my knee for 2 months.  That was in '96 (got handi seats for the whole New Years 96 run!) and I have not had a single issue since.  Never needed orthotics or anything since.  So, surgery might sound a little extreme but I had a terrible case of PF and once I got the cast off it has not come back in the most minute way, even when I did take up running.  Just my 2 cents.  And yeah, going to running store and having them video you and select proper shoe is certainly the first step if it's something you want to get into....
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on September 26, 2016, 07:08:30 AM
Dang, dude!
Igbo has posted in here for a bit.
Hope he's ok.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Igbo on September 26, 2016, 08:19:34 AM
Totally alive. Haven't been running as much lately as I hurt my back a few weeks ago which kept me sidelined.

Just started back up lightly last week. The plantar/heel issue seems to have subsided. I am finding that I am conciously trying to be lighter on my toes when I plant my feet which does seem to help alleviate some of the slamming on my heel. Seems to help but still not at 100%.

Trying to get in about 4-5 miles of run/walk 3x a week now. WE'll see how this goes.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on September 26, 2016, 08:30:28 AM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on October 08, 2016, 06:05:00 PM
3rd place in the Clydesdale (200+!) Division today at the Hartford Marathon.
Actually had to pack on 12 lbs the past 2 weeks to make weight and I felt a tad heavy out there.
Either way, ran a great race and I'm stoked to place at a Marathon!!!
Official 3:30:49

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/03D6E642-A870-4D3B-8897-6C19071618BA_zpsccgdfzif.jpg)
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/57636DAD-7C21-43B9-9A48-C254DD286ABB_zpssz9whnuw.png)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 10, 2016, 09:40:31 PM
Nice :clap:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 11, 2016, 07:32:38 PM
I figured this should go here...


http://trailrunnermag.com/people/adventure/2294-how-karl-meltzer-broke-the-appalachian-trail-record


Quote
There was a lot of Grateful Dead, but not the studio stuff Ė the stuff where they really get jamming for a long time,Ē he says. ďI had some Strange Folk, a little Phish. I like that jam stuff.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: fastfingers12 on October 11, 2016, 07:50:51 PM
I figured this should go here...


http://trailrunnermag.com/people/adventure/2294-how-karl-meltzer-broke-the-appalachian-trail-record


Quote
There was a lot of Grateful Dead, but not the studio stuff Ė the stuff where they really get jamming for a long time,Ē he says. ďI had some Strange Folk, a little Phish. I like that jam stuff.

I don't know how people run without listening to that type of music. Cool article!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 14, 2016, 08:13:25 PM
I have no business posting this much in this thread since I run like 3 - 5 km a week and that's only been in the last couple of months but this story is one of the most inspiring stories I've ever seen.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2016/09/19/watch-jonny-brownlee-helped-over-the-finish-line-by-brother-alis/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liCRrheKIOI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liCRrheKIOI)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Lifeboy on December 20, 2016, 05:47:57 PM
I've been running a little lately, and damn.... I'm out of shape.


I've been interested in doing some trail running. We have a lake south of town with some pretty cool trails. Anyone here trail run?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 02, 2017, 03:52:06 PM
Sooooo....anyone taking up running for the first time for the new year?
Goals for other runners in 2017??
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: natronzero on January 07, 2017, 01:25:13 PM
I just crossed the 10 mile threshold for the first time this morning, and encouragingly, I don't feel wrecked at all (except maybe my nipples).
Beyond that, I'm officially committed to run my first half marathon in just over 2 weeks! I'm pretty much feeling like I got this, but any advice from you more seasoned runners would be very welcome.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 07, 2017, 05:34:55 PM
Sweet!

Rule 1: Have fun!

Don't be so rigid if you have a time goal. Just finish and finish as strong as you can.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on January 07, 2017, 05:44:13 PM
I just crossed the 10 mile threshold for the first time this morning, and encouragingly, I don't feel wrecked at all (except maybe my nipples).
Beyond that, I'm officially committed to run my first half marathon in just over 2 weeks! I'm pretty much feeling like I got this, but any advice from you more seasoned runners would be very welcome.

What he said.
And, some Vaseline or something like it - aquaphor, etc, will go a long way
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 07, 2017, 06:27:53 PM
Yep!
I always use Band Aid Clear Spots for any run longer than 4M
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: DoW on January 07, 2017, 07:39:38 PM
I've basically run my whole life.  the past 20 years has been my stress relief.  I rum races for fun and the past couple years, I have wanted to do a half marathon with a marathon as the goal after that.  work has always interfered with my training.
but my goal is to actually do it this year.  I'm not much of a cold weather runner (usually just go to the gym) but I ma mixing in some outdoor runs so far this winter and feel good.
may skip my memorial day weekend festival and shoot for a half marathon on the cape that weekend instead.  running is more important than 85 dead cover bands.
physically I can do anything really.  I just lack the desire mentally, but that will change this year.

and great job natronzero.  you have this.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 07, 2017, 08:32:33 PM
Do you have a Marathon in mind?
Pick a race and find a training program that you can stick with.
Regardless of the race you choose, you're always going to be training in extreme heat or cold.
Just how it goes!

I've been following this plan as a 12wk "guideline" for my last few Marathons.

http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51139/Marathon-Intermediate-1-Training-Program
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on January 08, 2017, 11:43:44 AM
I've basically run my whole life.  the past 20 years has been my stress relief.  I rum races for fun and the past couple years, I have wanted to do a half marathon with a marathon as the goal after that.  work has always interfered with my training.
but my goal is to actually do it this year.  I'm not much of a cold weather runner (usually just go to the gym) but I ma mixing in some outdoor runs so far this winter and feel good.
may skip my memorial day weekend festival and shoot for a half marathon on the cape that weekend instead.  running is more important than 85 dead cover bands.
physically I can do anything really.  I just lack the desire mentally, but that will change this year.

and great job natronzero.  you have this.

maybe we'll meet up at some local races this spring. The only definite I have in mind is the Lahey Canceer 5K in June, and the Garcia race in July.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Lifeboy on January 08, 2017, 03:35:49 PM
Sooooo....anyone taking up running for the first time for the new year?
Goals for other runners in 2017??

It wasn't necessarily a "new years resolution" thing, but I have started running regularly and taking it serious right before the new year hit.

I've been trying to get into it for several months now, as I'm sure you know since I asked you for tips last year, but I kept slipping out of it and not sticking with it.

I'm running about a mile a day, and I'm just now starting to get to where I can make it a mile without feeling like I'm going to die. Man, I was out of shape.

I used to be really into cycling (road mostly, but I would like to try mountain biking as well). I feel like running/getting into shape will help me ease back into cycling.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Superfreakie on January 08, 2017, 07:19:54 PM
Need to make a weight lifting thread. Do any of you fit people lift?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on January 08, 2017, 08:38:26 PM
Yes, sorta
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: emay on January 09, 2017, 11:16:46 AM
Need to make a weight lifting thread. Do any of you fit people lift?

I actually started last week. So, would be interested to see others beginning routine for lifting.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: VDB on January 09, 2017, 12:51:25 PM
Need to make a weight lifting thread. Do any of you fit people lift?

I actually started last week. So, would be interested to see others beginning routine for lifting.

Do it, SF.

My old gym of many years closed last August, leaving me, for a confluence of additional reasons, an orphan until I finally joined the new Y hereabouts.

The downside is this will probably mean less running, which I'd stepped up in frequency a bit to meet (not really) my exercise needs.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: natronzero on January 09, 2017, 12:55:11 PM
Thanks for the tips and encouragement guys!
I'll definitely need to look into some lube or bandages or something. This was the first time I'd had that specific issue, but it makes sense given that it was the farthest I've gone, and it was pretty cold here this past weekend.
I used to focus on my pace a lot, but I think it's definitely been key for me to concentrate on adding distance and improving my stamina, and not beating myself up if I'm a little slower than I'd like. I'm also squeezing in a shorter run once a week or so where I can push my speed a little.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: EdBanky on January 09, 2017, 01:05:12 PM
Need to make a weight lifting thread. Do any of you fit people lift?
I lift. Love lifting. Gave up on running. It's just too boring for me. I'll start the thread, because I'm interested as well in learning more about diet and training
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Lifeboy on January 10, 2017, 12:35:14 PM
Need to make a weight lifting thread. Do any of you fit people lift?
I lift. Love lifting. Gave up on running. It's just too boring for me. I'll start the thread, because I'm interested as well in learning more about diet and training

Thats almost precisely why I got into cycling in HS....
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: EdBanky on January 10, 2017, 04:05:12 PM
Yeah the most I'll run is about 20 minutes and that's all I need to feel good. Used to do the couch to 5k app on my phone. When I got to about an hour and a half run I just didn't look forward to it anymore.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on July 28, 2017, 01:34:02 PM
My buddy is running a 40 km on the Fundy foot path tomorrow.
Elevation changes 3000 feet every few kms.
Did I mention he's a smoker, lol.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on July 28, 2017, 03:44:22 PM
Also sounds dumb.
Best of luck!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on July 28, 2017, 03:58:29 PM
aug, grabbed the relive app, looks dope. haven't set it up yet, but I'm guessing it just links up to your garmin device?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on July 28, 2017, 04:37:27 PM
aug, grabbed the relive app, looks dope. haven't set it up yet, but I'm guessing it just links up to your garmin device?

Relive creates from Strava.
So just DL Strava (it's the shit) and sync your Garmin to your Strava account.

I realize Garmin has their own social network, but Strava is a much larger connection.
Plus, a lot of times, your watch will tell you you ran 2 miles.
Strava takes the average of each segment you ran (or ride or swim) to give you a very real distance for each of your workout.
There's also challenges and clubs and stuff, but it's another great tool to have if you're serious about your sport.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on July 28, 2017, 05:20:29 PM
aug, grabbed the relive app, looks dope. haven't set it up yet, but I'm guessing it just links up to your garmin device?

Relive creates from Strava.
So just DL Strava (it's the shit) and sync your Garmin to your Strava account.

I realize Garmin has their own social network, but Strava is a much larger connection.
Plus, a lot of times, your watch will tell you you ran 2 miles.
Strava takes the average of each segment you ran (or ride or swim) to give you a very real distance for each of your workout.
There's also challenges and clubs and stuff, but it's another great tool to have if you're serious about your sport.

Cool. So I linked my Garmin to Strava to Relive. See how that works out this weekend when I go for a run. Thanks man.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on July 28, 2017, 05:28:34 PM
Sick! Have fun!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on July 28, 2017, 05:49:09 PM
Sick! Have fun!

Oh sweet, it's actually retro-actively recreating the runs I did earlier this week. Very cool.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: VDB on August 26, 2017, 04:58:04 PM
I have wide feet, and I've been running in New Balances for the past 20 years in part because their selection of wides has been good. I'm finding that to be less the case these days. So, it might be time to go play the field again. Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on August 26, 2017, 06:23:15 PM
I have wide feet, and I've been running in New Balances for the past 20 years in part because their selection of wides has been good. I'm finding that to be less the case these days. So, it might be time to go play the field again. Any recommendations?

I'd rec Altras. The new Escalantes are pretty sweet.
https://www.runnersworld.com/shoe/altra-escalante-mens

If you have a specialty running store nearby, try them on and some others, tho.
They'll even evaluate your stride and fit you perfectly.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on August 26, 2017, 07:26:18 PM

I wear a 2E in New Balance for walking around but Asics for running, they're good n' wide.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: VDB on August 28, 2017, 10:43:43 AM
Yo, thanks, guys. Never heard of Altra; I'll have to take a look. As for Asics, I've known people who've raved about them for years, so maybe there's something to that.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on August 28, 2017, 11:43:55 AM
Yeah, I do Asics Kayano and Saucony Guides. Asics and Brooks have been the top running shoes forever, so you can't go wrong there, but I'll second Aug's rec of going to a running specialty store and having them take a look at you running and fit you. For a couple years I was in neutral shoes when I needed stability ones, and it made all the difference in this recurring knee pain I was having. They'll know what they're doing. Also, don't skimp on cost, cause a little more spent on the right shoes is worth the savings in doctors visits and physical therapy later on.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on September 09, 2017, 07:57:53 AM
So my friend is attempting to set a world record today. 150-kilometre journey through the Fundy Parkway trails, Fundy Footpath and part of Fundy Park, capped off with the entire Dobson Trail in 30 hours.


http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926 (http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on September 09, 2017, 09:59:10 AM
So my friend is attempting to set a world record today. 150-kilometre journey through the Fundy Parkway trails, Fundy Footpath and part of Fundy Park, capped off with the entire Dobson Trail in 30 hours.


http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926 (http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926)

Very cool.

random sidenote, but maybe not so, Ever seen the Barkley Marathons? It's a doc on netflix. Check that out.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on September 09, 2017, 10:33:24 AM
So my friend is attempting to set a world record today. 150-kilometre journey through the Fundy Parkway trails, Fundy Footpath and part of Fundy Park, capped off with the entire Dobson Trail in 30 hours.


http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926 (http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926)

Nice! Saw a headline about this on my fb feed, first thing this morning.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 09, 2017, 04:08:34 PM
Go big!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 09, 2017, 04:11:05 PM
So my Spring 50K in Oregon was destroyed by fires by some loser lighting fireworks.
Was really pumped on getting out to take in the Gorge Waterfalls in '18.
Fucking crazy how much was destroyed by one idiot.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Hicks on September 09, 2017, 09:26:46 PM
So my Spring 50K in Oregon was destroyed by fires by some loser lighting fireworks.
Was really pumped on getting out to take in the Gorge Waterfalls in '18.
Fucking crazy how much was destroyed by one idiot.

Yeah it's heartbreaking, one of my favorite places in the world. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on September 09, 2017, 10:45:31 PM
Oh man that's awful.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on September 10, 2017, 04:30:11 AM
So my Spring 50K in Oregon was destroyed by fires by some loser lighting fireworks.
Was really pumped on getting out to take in the Gorge Waterfalls in '18.
Fucking crazy how much was destroyed by one idiot.

Yeah it's heartbreaking, one of my favorite places in the world.

Really is heartbreaking.
Rainshadow Running is the group that puts on races all around the PNW and this will take quite some time to recover from. The trail system will obviously still be there, but the beauty and wildlife will take years to return. :/

The vibe and community that we feel as Phish fans is mirrored in the Ultrarunning community.
These races are put on and run by like-minded athletes that share their love for trails, running and fellowship.

I've watched this vid 100's of times in anticipation of my 2018 Gorge entry.
Give it a quick watch.

https://vimeo.com/66273634
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on September 11, 2017, 08:28:59 AM
Such a shame.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on September 11, 2017, 01:39:58 PM
totally sucks, on so many levels
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Hicks on September 11, 2017, 01:45:45 PM
So my Spring 50K in Oregon was destroyed by fires by some loser lighting fireworks.
Was really pumped on getting out to take in the Gorge Waterfalls in '18.
Fucking crazy how much was destroyed by one idiot.

Yeah it's heartbreaking, one of my favorite places in the world.

Really is heartbreaking.
Rainshadow Running is the group that puts on races all around the PNW and this will take quite some time to recover from. The trail system will obviously still be there, but the beauty and wildlife will take years to return. :/

The vibe and community that we feel as Phish fans is mirrored in the Ultrarunning community.
These races are put on and run by like-minded athletes that share their love for trails, running and fellowship.

I've watched this vid 100's of times in anticipation of my 2018 Gorge entry.
Give it a quick watch.

https://vimeo.com/66273634

Have they already cancelled it? 

The fire was extensive, but there are areas that were less affected than others. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on September 11, 2017, 01:47:39 PM
So my friend is attempting to set a world record today. 150-kilometre journey through the Fundy Parkway trails, Fundy Footpath and part of Fundy Park, capped off with the entire Dobson Trail in 30 hours.


http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926 (http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926)

The final tally for Tim was 188.7 km through some very technical trail over 34 hrs.
Almost 4.5 marathons with over 6000 metres in elevation change.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 11, 2017, 02:48:33 PM
So my friend is attempting to set a world record today. 150-kilometre journey through the Fundy Parkway trails, Fundy Footpath and part of Fundy Park, capped off with the entire Dobson Trail in 30 hours.


http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926 (http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926)

The final tally for Tim was 188.7 km through some very technical trail over 34 hrs.
Almost 4.5 marathons with over 6000 metres in elevation change.

Sick accomplishment! Dude needs a beer!!

Have they already cancelled it? 

The fire was extensive, but there are areas that were less affected than others.

Quote
In light of the fires in the Columbia River Gorge, we are postponing the registration for both the Gorge Waterfalls 100K and 50K until we get a chance to talk with our permitting agencies. This may not be for several weeks or months as they need ample time to assess the condition of the trails. We will keep you all posted as soon as we have more information.

Thank you for your understanding and patience.

So, not yet.
In all honesty, the allure for most is the course surroundings.
I've already switched my focus to a local 70K, but I'll be running the Gorge sometime in the future for sure.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Hicks on September 11, 2017, 03:00:38 PM
If they do end up having it in 2018, I'm sure they could use your support. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 11, 2017, 04:43:32 PM
If they do end up having it in 2018, I'm sure they could use your support.

Unfortunately, my race is the same weekend (as their usual date.)
I totally would, too.
You also get guaranteed entry for the following year when you volunteer ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Augustus on September 14, 2017, 05:26:47 PM
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Race Cancellation

Many of you have been following along with the Eagle Creek fire that is currently burning thousands of acres of trails in the Columbia River Gorge.  It is with heavy hearts that we announce we will not be able to hold the 2018 Gorge Waterfalls 50K or 100K next spring. 

After a conversation with our ranger at the forest service, she informed us that they would not even begin to start repairing the trails until next spring.  We are hopeful that we will be able to hold the race again in the future and we will certainly keep you all posted as soon as we have any more information.

 :|

Sucks, but their hands are tied at this point.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on September 14, 2017, 08:41:20 PM
Quote
Race Cancellation

Many of you have been following along with the Eagle Creek fire that is currently burning thousands of acres of trails in the Columbia River Gorge.  It is with heavy hearts that we announce we will not be able to hold the 2018 Gorge Waterfalls 50K or 100K next spring. 

After a conversation with our ranger at the forest service, she informed us that they would not even begin to start repairing the trails until next spring.  We are hopeful that we will be able to hold the race again in the future and we will certainly keep you all posted as soon as we have any more information.

 :|

Sucks, but their hands are tied at this point.

Ugh.  That bites.  But the good news is that they are slowly getting it under control and the forest will be back.  We are finally having clear days again here in town.  The other did news is that there are a ton of other epic races out here in the PNW, maybe there's another that will take up the slack (and pique your interest).
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: khalpin on October 29, 2017, 12:47:47 PM
After years of being pretty much just a treadmill runner going for a half hour at a clip a few times a week, we finally got a dog.  So I've started spending my weekends running with my dog going 8 or 9 miles each day.  The downside is apparently my second toe sticks out further than my big toe and it's taking a beating.  Blistered, black and blue, and extremely tender.  Anyone else encounter this and is there anything I can do about it?  It's only on one foot, oddly enough, but it's been about 6 months, which is basically when I started running longer distances.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on October 30, 2017, 10:47:39 AM
After years of being pretty much just a treadmill runner going for a half hour at a clip a few times a week, we finally got a dog.  So I've started spending my weekends running with my dog going 8 or 9 miles each day.  The downside is apparently my second toe sticks out further than my big toe and it's taking a beating.  Blistered, black and blue, and extremely tender.  Anyone else encounter this and is there anything I can do about it?  It's only on one foot, oddly enough, but it's been about 6 months, which is basically when I started running longer distances.

No personal experience with this, but there's this:

http://shoosed.com/shoes/orthopedic/mortons-toe/

Might be time to change shoes.

Also, big ups on getting out there for the longer distances. I used to run when I was in my late 20's, but then quit, but a couple years ago started up again, and have done five 1/2's in the last year, but this summer I re-injured my back (herniated discs) in an unrelated event, and couldn't even walk for awhile, then had to use a cane, then finally got back to walking, then finally getting back into the gym the last couple weeks, and yesterday finally got a run in outside...covered 8 miles at a 11 min pace, but I've never been fast or anything, just trudge along, so I don't care about that really, but man, it just felt really good to be out there running again....

so yeah man, maybe consider changing shoes to one of those off that list...
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on October 30, 2017, 11:06:40 AM
Nice work, guys!

Blisters and black toenails are part of distance running, unfortunately.
I ran 16 in the pouring rain yesterday and all I got was this stupid blood blister.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on October 30, 2017, 12:27:10 PM
Yeah, I'm finding there's always going to be something going on that you're dealing with...I was trying to get ready for full in March, but by Jan, I'd worked my way up to 18 miles, but my right knee was killing me and I was doing ice packs and ibuprofen every day. I just had to come to terms with it wasn't going to happen. I'm hoping to start pushing again for one in the spring tho, building a base right now.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on October 30, 2017, 01:59:04 PM
Nice! Was it general ďRunnerís KneeĒ symptoms or was it worse?
You can generally run through RK pain without worsening your symptoms.
Iíll get knee pain whenever I slack on my supplement stack (Turmeric, Fish Oil & Glucosamine) for joint issues, and theyíre generally resolved within 5 days when I start taking them again. 
Plenty of great marathons to focus on in the Spring!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on October 30, 2017, 03:24:09 PM
... but this summer I re-injured my back (herniated discs) in an unrelated event, and couldn't even walk for awhile, then had to use a cane, then finally got back to walking, then finally getting back into the gym the last couple weeks, and yesterday finally got a run in outside...covered 8 miles at a 11 min pace, but I've never been fast or anything, just trudge along, so I don't care about that really, but man, it just felt really good to be out there running again....

so yeah man, maybe consider changing shoes to one of those off that list...

We're gonna need a story for this.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 30, 2017, 06:43:17 PM
That pic of Aug's toe is gonna haunt me for years.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on October 31, 2017, 01:09:50 AM
That pic of Aug's toe is gonna haunt me for years.

I shouldíve got some vid of me slicing it...
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: khalpin on October 31, 2017, 07:43:55 AM

Blisters and black toenails are part of distance running, unfortunately.

i.e. Man up, ya bunch of Nancies.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on October 31, 2017, 10:01:44 AM
... but this summer I re-injured my back (herniated discs) in an unrelated event, and couldn't even walk for awhile, then had to use a cane, then finally got back to walking, then finally getting back into the gym the last couple weeks, and yesterday finally got a run in outside...covered 8 miles at a 11 min pace, but I've never been fast or anything, just trudge along, so I don't care about that really, but man, it just felt really good to be out there running again....

so yeah man, maybe consider changing shoes to one of those off that list...

We're gonna need a story for this.

weekend trip to fells point baltimore + dope airbnb + lady friend + me being an old man and not as flexible as I once was....you can figure it out.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

but mostly:
  :shakehead:
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on October 31, 2017, 10:36:31 AM
Bless you, you sexy old man, you!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on October 31, 2017, 10:59:34 AM
Bless you, you sexy old man, you!

agreed.

and khalpin, agree on shoe comments.  you may need to go up 1/2 size. my running shoes typically are about 1/2 size larger than shoes
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on November 03, 2017, 08:38:31 AM
Was running really well end of summer, then popped a hamstring mid September. took a few weeks off, have been going slow. Did my first run this AM in preparation for the Feaster (Thanksgiving) - it was ugly. It will be an off year
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on January 05, 2018, 06:47:09 PM
New year, new man!  :wtu:  :angel:

Making an effort to get back into some sort of shape again and oh man it's killing me.  Today was my third day running and working out and I'm still pretty much in the 'this sucks' phase.  No joke, I couldn't even make it 1/4 mile on my first run. The combination of the altitude out here, the cold air, and the fact that my pot-smoking ass hasn't exercised for 10 years really did me over.

What's the best way to get started..... should I be going for time or distance? and how about stopping/starting? Today I made it maaaaybe a mile total but stopped and walked 3 times. Felt like I was gonna die about 7 times. 
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: mattstick on January 05, 2018, 06:52:29 PM
Run 10 minutes, walk 1.  Do that 2 or 3 times, then do it twice.
Work your way up to marathons doing 10s and 1s.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 05, 2018, 06:54:48 PM
Chyeah!
Have a goal before you start.
Either a time goal, or distance.
So if running half of a mile is tough, make that your goal and donít stop until you hit it.
Slowly increase your goal after you hit each one.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: sunrisevt on January 05, 2018, 07:23:14 PM
Yeah, pretty much what they said. I was going to recommend just building up to running 1/2 hour daily at a pace comfortable enough to maintain.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on January 05, 2018, 07:29:44 PM
I used the Couch to 5K program which worked for me.  It's really gradual, and starts with a lot of walking.  But it worked for me.  I need a plan or program spelled out for me.  If I left it up to myself I wouldn't get it done.  You can just google couch to 5k and find the plan.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on January 05, 2018, 07:34:55 PM
Chyeah!

I knew there was one thing I could count on getting you psyched about!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on January 06, 2018, 02:36:17 PM
Yeah bud! So I started with walking 4 min, running 1 min, did that for 30 mins, then started  increasing the run segment 3 walk/2 run, then 2 walk/3run, then 1 walk, 4 run, etc basically 5 min increments....til i was running the full 30 mins, then just started upping the time. You'll be running long distances in no time.

Speaking of, ran a 16 miler the other day in 26 degree weather. After doing a handful of half's over the last year and a half, decided to push it to the next level and try and do a full for my 41st birthday in March. It's an incredibly daunting mileage...the other day, after I hit 13 miles, I was like,w ell, it's like I just had to run a half marathon to get to the start of a 5k, that's all. Just three quarters of a mile to go....and then I thought, and then do 10 more....and the insanity of that just started to cause me to start laughing hysterically like a maniac....and just as suddenly, I got dead silent at the enormity of it. Any advice there Aug, on training for your first full?

Anyhow, I don't mind running in the cold, but this snow has put a damper on my training this week.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 06, 2018, 07:18:36 PM
Sick! First bit of advice is to have fun with your training!
The long run is king. Knock those out and try your darndest to get your weekday runs in, especially when itís the last thing you wanna do during these cold weeks.
Which race is it?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on January 07, 2018, 10:18:38 AM
that, and don't worry about time / pace. Be comfortable, go slow
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 07, 2018, 10:34:02 AM
Oh, and get on Strava ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on January 07, 2018, 11:59:18 AM
So when does this get Ďfuní?

Iíve powered through 5 days now, really felt I needed a rest today. My body is tired and my brain is confused at what Iíve been putting myself through!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 07, 2018, 12:21:18 PM
So when does this get Ďfuní?

Iíve powered through 5 days now, really felt I needed a rest today. My body is tired and my brain is confused at what Iíve been putting myself through!

Take the rest.
Have you been listening to music on your runs?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: WhatstheUse? on January 07, 2018, 05:51:01 PM
So when does this get Ďfuní?

Iíve powered through 5 days now, really felt I needed a rest today. My body is tired and my brain is confused at what Iíve been putting myself through!

Take the rest.
Have you been listening to music on your runs?

For some reason I actually have not been...
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 07, 2018, 07:07:17 PM
So when does this get Ďfuní?

Iíve powered through 5 days now, really felt I needed a rest today. My body is tired and my brain is confused at what Iíve been putting myself through!

Take the rest.
Have you been listening to music on your runs?

For some reason I actually have not been...

Might help. Load up a 10 or 15min track and donít quit until itís done.
Iíve made a bunch of mixes to help with solo long runs.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on January 08, 2018, 10:02:56 AM
Sick! First bit of advice is to have fun with your training!
The long run is king. Knock those out and try your darndest to get your weekday runs in, especially when itís the last thing you wanna do during these cold weeks.
Which race is it?

The Shamrock Marathon in VA Beach, so it's a totally flat course, so that's cool. Yeah, this past weekend is the first time I've missed my Sunday long run, but we got a foot of snow, and its just made the roads a sheet of ice for the last 4 days. Do you think I should try and make it up by running it mid week this week in place of one of my shorts runs, and then still do my Sunday long run? Or just skip it at this point? I've still got 10 weeks to go, so it's probably not a big deal?

Oh, and get on Strava ;)

Oh yeah, I'm on there now. And I joined a local run club on the app too, which has been motivating, especially on those cold days, and you see everyone else went out and did their runs.

that, and don't worry about time / pace. Be comfortable, go slow

Yeah, at first I was thinking it'd be cool to finish in 5 hours (11:27 pace), and my 16 miler the other day I was within pace of that, but I know the reality of keeping that up for another 2 hours just isn't gonna happen, so I'm just looking to finish really, and I'll be happy with that. I did my best half at a 10:23 pace, so I don't really know how that converts over to estimating a full marathon pace though.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on January 08, 2018, 03:16:07 PM
Personally, missing 1 long run isn't a crime.


Just stay on schedule
So when does this get Ďfuní?

Iíve powered through 5 days now, really felt I needed a rest today. My body is tired and my brain is confused at what Iíve been putting myself through!

Take the rest.
Have you been listening to music on your runs?

For some reason I actually have not been...

try going 4 days week, no more than 2 - 3 days in a row.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 08, 2018, 03:24:11 PM
Come at me!
https://www.strava.com/athletes/9350641

10 weeks out is not that bad if you miss a LR.
You might feel great if you bang it out on Wed and then nail your weekend LR, too ;)

5hrs is a great goal.
If youíve ran a 2:16 Half, itís VERY obtainable.
My one bit of advice regarding LRs is to run comfortably.
If youíre familiar w/ LSD, most programs tell you to run 60-90sec slower than goal pace.
Just go out and get your miles done. If you run close to goal pace (11:20), thatís great! Especially if it feels easy.
Some runs will be slower and some faster.
But 10 weeks is a LONG time from now and you will be stronger/faster by then. Go for sub-5.

Weíll talk nutrition/hydration next time ;)
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: Caravan2001 on January 08, 2018, 05:04:58 PM
Come at me!
https://www.strava.com/athletes/9350641

10 weeks out is not that bad if you miss a LR.
You might feel great if you bang it out on Wed and then nail your weekend LR, too ;)

5hrs is a great goal.
If youíve ran a 2:16 Half, itís VERY obtainable.
My one bit of advice regarding LRs is to run comfortably.
If youíre familiar w/ LSD, most programs tell you to run 60-90sec slower than goal pace.
Just go out and get your miles done. If you run close to goal pace (11:20), thatís great! Especially if it feels easy.
Some runs will be slower and some faster.
But 10 weeks is a LONG time from now and you will be stronger/faster by then. Go for sub-5.

Weíll talk nutrition/hydration next time ;)

I'm very familiar with LSD....

Also, anyone else on Strava get at me too...really helps me with motivation.  Just don't look at my 2018 stats lol.  Been a slow start.

https://www.strava.com/athletes/76968
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on January 09, 2018, 01:45:08 PM
Warning - this is going to be a little bit of the feels here for me, so just be warned. My entire life, I have been the fat kid. I played football in high school - until I decided that burning trees in the church parking lot and listening to the Sex Pistols was cooler. Either way, I absolutely hated the stigma that comes with being the fat kid, and just kind of hid behind that self deprecating bullshit for way too many years.
Around 2009, I had an epiphany. I had always eaten pretty well - my mom always had fresh fruit and veggies at meals... and when most families were eating Hamburger Helper, we were eating stuff like white beans with chicken, or healthy stir fry with quinoa or something that most of my friends thought was ďweirdĒ. It was normal for me. My mom was (and continues to be) excited about new health foods, and eating pretty clean overall. It wasnít called eating clean back then, but the same deal. So my epiphany was - you eat all this healthy stuff, and you like it - how the Hell are you still fat? Well the answers require a lot of digging, but they are super apparent when you just look at it. I was able to buy other foods as well, and who doesnít like cheeseburgers and tacos? When you eat all of those, and then tank down 2-3 servings of this healthier stuff for dinner, you can still blow up the scales.
I decided Iíd start running. Not fast, but running. I had never run a mile in my life, but I was bound and determined to do so. I ran slow, and what most people call laughable, but who cares, fatty was running. I got used to cars of people passing me and hearing them laugh, but it honestly just started motivating me even more. I would think ďItís pretty easy to laugh at the fat guy running while you suck down another cancer stick and eat garbage in the car... fuck those peopleĒ.
Next I broke the plain of 2 miles, then 3, and finally, I ran a 5K. After doing this on an every other day basis, I started to think I might enter a couple of races. Not to compete with anyone but myself, I entered my first 5K. With all this running, not eating garbage, I dropped all of this weight I had been carrying around - I lost 103lbs.
I ran my first distance race in June of 2009, a 20K called the Dam to Dam in Des Moines. They bus you out at 5AM to Saylorville dam, and you run 20K through the outskirts of the city, finally ending at the downtown levee, completing a Dam to Dam. I ran every step. I didnít finish fast, I ran like 12 minute miles, but I ran every damn step. I jammed Phish hard, ate gel packs, and hydrated like a mother. Being a fat runner (even at my thinnest, Iím still a fat runner), I sweat like insanity. I have To replenish that stuff or I start getting light headed. Again, some more accomplished runners seem to laugh at this, but anyone who truly loves running is beyond supportive. Running is the best fraternity I have ever been a part of.
Anyway, life gets in the way. I started burying emotions again, and eating straight garbage. I got married in 2015, and packed on even more weight after doing so, shit I had a hot wife, why worry about how I look, or more specifically - how I feel. I ballooned to 343lbs. Every time I would go for an aviation medical, they would tell me how I had to lose weight. Who wants a super obese pilot anyway? As many of you know, my wife took off in September. The single most devastating thing I have ever had happen to me... but as all of you awesome Paugers and other friends pointed out to me, the best advice is to focus on your kid, and take care of yourself. I wasnít sure how, but I got my ass into some old running shoes, and started walking. I was so removed from running, I wasnít sure Iíd ever do what it takes to get back into shape... but I just kept putting one foot in front of the other... slowly.
I started cutting calories, and making sure that my walking workouts were at least 30 minutes, and I was often working out 6-7 days a week (too much, but I had to have it at this point in my life).
Yesterday, in Savanah, Georgia, I weighed in at 268lbs. Still pretty fat, but I have lost 75lbs since September, and I know Iím on my way to even more. The weather was nice, so I laced up the new Brooks runners I snagged a few weeks back, and put that same one foot in front of the other. I ran outside, and for the first time outside since 2013, I ran a 5K. It was slow, but fatty is back.
Life is fucked up - it kicks you in the face, and sometimes thatís exactly what you need. They are ending the Dam to Dam this year, after a long span, and my ass is going to be there - slow as shit, but dancing along to my favorite shows along the way.
*Iím flying at the moment, but when we land, Iíll update with some progress pics.*
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on January 09, 2018, 02:04:38 PM
^^
that's awesome
working on the physical and mental aspects.

honestly nothing clears my head like running. I get so much mental stuff accomplished without even thinking about it - whether it's stress reduction that I need, problem solving, writing a talk, whatever. That's one of the reasons why I never listen to music when I run outside, even though I have music playing almost every other waking moment when I'm not at work.
keep at it!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 09, 2018, 06:03:33 PM
Great work, man!
Itís true. Running will clear your mind like nothing else, especially when youíre out there for a bit.
As for running ďheavyĒ, Iím one of the top ranked Clydesdales (185-199lbs) in NY, so donít sweat the weight thing. ;) Just run!
Keep up the good work, man!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on January 12, 2018, 05:06:48 PM
Solid work man! Keep at it! Totally how I feel about running...it's my meditative space...so much shit gets worked out running...I'm proud of you for starting up again, and def keep us posted on your progress with the dam to dam training...And as for being big...bro! You're talking to Husky Pants here...At my heaviest I was at 213...quitting drinking I dropped 20, eating healthier, dropped another 20, added in running and dropped another 20...at my lowest and when I was averaging 30 mile weeks, I hit 152...back up to about 168 now, but I'm working my way back up in mileage so that might start to drop back down. I Didn't do it to lose weight though, I was just trying to be healthier and like you, used to run like 10 years ago, but then other things took priority. Either way, the weight aspect is just one part of it. There's so much more that running brings tho...my favorite thing tho has to be that meditative, quieting of my thoughts, reflective, solitary nature of it...Anyhow, thanks for the advice and support aug and caravan, I'll find you guys on strava.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 15, 2018, 04:43:13 PM
The NYC Marathon lottery opened up today.
It truly is THE BEST road marathon youíll ever run.

https://www.tcsnycmarathon.org/plan-your-race/run-in-2018?_ga=2.132090383.1002625974.1516012046-469134994.1509977117
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on January 16, 2018, 05:49:20 PM
The NYC Marathon lottery opened up today.
It truly is THE BEST road marathon youíll ever run.

https://www.tcsnycmarathon.org/plan-your-race/run-in-2018?_ga=2.132090383.1002625974.1516012046-469134994.1509977117

So many questions. I'm glad they leave that open for a month tho to enter the lottery. It's definitely something I'd consider, but I also just want to focus on the first one. I heard someone say what would be ideal in training for a marathon is finishing without hating running.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

Anyhow, I'm starting to have a ton of questions pop up, and have been trying to read up some when I get a chance, but more so just end up watching short youtube coaching/training segments.

But, can we talk about pacing and mileage? I'm trying to stick with my beginners schedule as best as I can, but some days I just go further. Today was supposed to be a 4 miler, I did 6, the other day was supposed to be 14, I did 15. Just feel like, some days it's a struggle to get the miles, other days, I just feel like pushing it. My biggest fear is over training and having to pull back a little to let my knee stop hurting or deal with plantar fasciitis or something like that. I'm not having those issues now, but I don't want to either.

My longest run in the training schedule is 20 miles, but one guy I watched the other day said that was crazy because on race day that means there's still 23% of the race mileage you've never even done, and it'd be more appropriate to get a 23-24 mile run in (approx 3 weeks) before the race day. Another person said, you should not just hit 20 miles once during your training, but should do it at least 5 times(!) so that you're comfortable with that level. Another video said, it has nothing to do with mileage, but about how much time you spend running, and to slow your pace, get less miles, but increase the time you're on your feet moving forward each week by 15-20 mins.

So questions...should I be doing more miles on days I feel I can, or just stick to the schedule? Should I try and make some of the 15+ scheduled miles into 20's instead? Pacing, if 11:27 is what I want race day, my shorter runs should be 10-10:30, medium runs at race pace, and long runs 12:30? These last two times I pushed it (16 and 15 milers), after 13 miles, I just really dropped from like consistent steady 11:30's to 14 min miles for the last few, and just reeeeally struggled. And had nasty headaches for the rest of the day taboot....but I blame that on not hydrating well. But that's a whole other conversation. Sorry for all the ?'s....just starting to have a lot pop up lately, and wanting to do this right.

OH, and for reference, this is the schedule I'm using:

http://www.shamrockmarathon.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2017/11/Shamrock-Beginner-Marathon-2018.pdf
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 16, 2018, 06:24:40 PM
If youíre feeling good on your runs, definitely go for it!
An extra mile or two (I wouldnít push past two) is a great confidence boost!
Honestly, I feel like three rest days from running is a little too much. Even if you did 2-3 on a rest day super easy, youíll benefit.

As for 20s.....One is plenty good for your first full. Youíre feeling good on that 20, push yourself for ONE more mile. The goal is getting to the start line as close to 100% as you can and CONFIDENT that youíre gonna finish.
IF! Training is going great and you really feel like throwing down an extra 20, make your planned 17M an 18M and make that next 18 a 20. I didnít get into multiple 20s or high 20s until I had a few fulls under my belt.
I ran one 20 for first few and it was good ďenoughĒ to hit my goal times. I used this plan for my first 3 or 4.

http://www.nyrr.org/sites/default/files/Marathon%20Training%20Plans%20-%20Conservative.pdf

Any questions, post away!
You got Sls and Sunrise that have plenty experience and weíll all have a different approach.
Just keep having fun and keep your eye on the prize!

Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on January 17, 2018, 04:41:03 PM
Nice! Thanks for the help, yeah, I won't inundate you all at once with all the questions. I'll post them as they come up, but that's definitely helpful. And I like that NYRR training schedule; the one that I have just lists mileage, where as that one lists the type of runs. And agreed, even though, the schedule I've been using so far has one rest day and two rest or cross training days, I've been trying to do a little with weights one day, and getting on the elliptical or out for a short 1-3 mile run on off days. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 17, 2018, 04:49:39 PM
Yeah, man!
What are you doing for nutrition/hydration on your LRs?
Iím shut down until Mon with the flu so I need some running talk!!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on January 17, 2018, 07:41:52 PM
I'll weigh in too

Agree, 1 or 2 extra miles if you feel good is fine, no more

Run the long runs slower than race pace

How many 20's?. Most of the time I ran 2. A 20 and a 22 or something like that. 5 is too many.
My "plan" was similar to Augs except that I don't have time to run an >6m mid week so I improvised. I would run 4 days total and go to the gym 1 - 2 days. Weekday runs were usually 4 - 6 with tempos / intervals once a week. My goal time for my 1st was  4hr (9 min pace). I ran it in 4:07, finished strong at a good pace and felt like I could run another mile after I was done so I was quite happy.  If I was going to do another and not care about time I would do the same thing.

Expect to have some aches/pains while training. You'll figure out what is normal for you and what is not.

Find out what your race will be having re drinks / gels and experiment with that. If you don't like it, just find something you do like and bring it yourself.

get well soon Aug!!


Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on January 18, 2018, 09:12:26 AM
Thanks for all the mad support, it certainly makes me feel like Iím on the right track. Iím not training for anything other than a 5K in Wilmington, DE in March for the Beau Biden Foundation. I think there was talk of them opening a 10K as well. Not sure Iím going to be ready to run that far by then, but I might be. Iím running 5K 3-4 times a week now, and hitting the gym on at least two opposing days for elliptical, and strength training. My ultimate goal is to just be ready to run the 20K in June, and I think itís possible for sure.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 18, 2018, 09:51:55 AM
Nice!
Thatís plenty of time to hit 20K.
Just slowly add mileage each week and make a 10M your longest run ~3wks before race day.
Keep running!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on January 18, 2018, 02:07:53 PM
I'll weigh in too

Agree, 1 or 2 extra miles if you feel good is fine, no more

Run the long runs slower than race pace

How many 20's?. Most of the time I ran 2. A 20 and a 22 or something like that. 5 is too many.
My "plan" was similar to Augs except that I don't have time to run an >6m mid week so I improvised. I would run 4 days total and go to the gym 1 - 2 days. Weekday runs were usually 4 - 6 with tempos / intervals once a week. My goal time for my 1st was  4hr (9 min pace). I ran it in 4:07, finished strong at a good pace and felt like I could run another mile after I was done so I was quite happy.  If I was going to do another and not care about time I would do the same thing.

Expect to have some aches/pains while training. You'll figure out what is normal for you and what is not.

Find out what your race will be having re drinks / gels and experiment with that. If you don't like it, just find something you do like and bring it yourself.

get well soon Aug!!

Yeah, the aches and pains...I'm learning to just listen to my body and realize when maybe I should skip a day or when it's ok to push through.

As for drinks/gels...they'll have water, gatorade, and GU gels...I haven't used GU gels yet, but I'm gonna grab some to see how I do with them. I've been using Glukos (see link below), just cause i found them at a race once and got hooked on their gummies, which are pretty good. They also have these tablets which you could drop in a water bottle, but I found they don't really break apart, so I just used them as a chewable tablet, which they said was ok to do to, but didn't like it too much. Was way too sweet and left me really thirsty. And they have these "gels" but they're really just liquid pouches, like gatorade, which I've liked because they quench my thirst since I haven't been carrying water on my long runs. Usually down them around the 6, 10, and 14 mile marks right now...

Anyhow, I'm still experimenting with all that. What I need to do is get some sort of water thing going, either those hand helds, or the waist packs, or something. I've run all over town at this point, and we don't have ANY water fountains...like none. Last time I just told my buddy I was gonna be running by his house in about an hour, and was gonna stop real quick for a water, so that worked out, but I can't do that all the time. Any suggestions? Also, how often should I be taking in calories/gels/gu's? Any ones you guys likes in particular?

https://www.glukosenergy.com/
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 18, 2018, 02:21:40 PM
I would highly recommend getting a handheld (~20oz.) with a good size pouch for gels.
Iíve been using Tailwind as my main nutrition for long runs/races.
https://www.tailwindnutrition.com

Each scoop is generally good for an hour. So two scoops in a bottle and a few gels and Iím good.
During LRs when itís crazy hot out, Iíll try and hit up a gas station or something for a quart of Gatorade and refill.
Sometimes some pretzels or Fritos, too!

As for Gu, Iím pretty much set on Salted Watermrlon.
The Rocktane is kind of weird tasting.

Definitely start experimenting soon!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on January 18, 2018, 02:39:04 PM
For my long runs (> 16M) I used to drive the course ahead of time and put water bottles out. It was a PIA.
I got one of those belts with 8 oz containers, much more conveniant

If you're gonna do Gatorade, 1 glass every water stop (usually 2 miles). Find out what flavor they will have to make sure you can stomach it. I have no problem with it, but some people do.

I forget the timing for gels, but you can look the carb content compared to 8oz of gatorade and do the same.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on January 18, 2018, 02:48:39 PM
Cool, just ordered a sampler stick pack from Tailwind. It comes with 7 stick packs in a variety of flavors, including a couple of the caffeinated ones. Says they're 200 cal's per pack, each pack to be mixed with 20-40 oz water.

As for the handheld, I guess it'll just be a matter of getting used to carrying it? That's the one thing I've been hesitant about, and was leaning more towards the waistpacks...but then I feel like that'd be uncomfortable too. I might just ended up buying both and seeing which works out better. But yeah, going with no water on 10+ miles kinda sucks. I've just been trying to be good about constantly staying hydrated and drinking a lot more water throughout the day, which I guess is good for you anyway.

It's funny you mentioned pretzels and fritos, cause I find I think about eating a lot when I'm running  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard Like imagining what I'm gonna eat after this fucking long run! I've been taking in a lot more calories per day this last month especially, that's for damn sure. Taking a few bucks with me though is probably a good idea to hit up a gas station, didn't think of that.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: slslbs on January 18, 2018, 02:51:07 PM
take tp also...

and remember - lubricate
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 18, 2018, 03:02:47 PM
Yep!! 😂
Body Glide and band aids are essential!
I use Band Aid spots pretty much for every run after learning the hard way (100x) about bloody nips.
Body Glide btwn the legs and around the waistband will help with chaffing.

Personally, I knew the belt wasnít for me about 3min into a LR. First and last time I used it.  :-D
Honestly, the handheld has saved me on some trail runs when I took a spill and it kind of softened the landing.

Gu is generally every 45min but I generally take them at 10, 15, 19, 23
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on January 20, 2018, 12:08:20 PM
I love that we are getting into gel/race fuel talks, as Iím just getting back into the game, and a lot has changed since I was running any decent amount.
I have run/worked out every day for the last 7 days (alternating some strength and interval work every other day). I donít feel TOO sore, but also feel like a day off is probably warranted so I donít burn out or injure anything. Again, I realize Iím not even close to you studs rocking major miles, but Iím certainly feeling damn good about myself.
Back to the nutrition and gel talk, when I was running before I was really in to Hammer products. They are primarily biking, but some of their nutrition is next level. They make tons of supplements, many of which I have no experience with because I think some of that is hype for sure. I will say that the Race Caps Supreme and Premium Insurance Caps (Daily Multi) are pretty good stuff. I do not really ever take any of the energy boost stuff, because I hate artificially jacking my heart rate etc. with anything other than good oleí caffeine.
Before I pull the trigger on their supplement package, Iím open to any other suggestions you all might have. Iím going to do a little comparison with the GU gels and the Hammer gels just to see which does better with me, but I donít really get into those until Iím logging longer runs than I am now, so when the time is right, Iíll give that a go.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 20, 2018, 12:20:53 PM
Hammer/Heed/Clif/Energy Labs are essentially all the same products just marketed differently.
Thereís been a few races Iíve ran where there was only Heed at aid stations instead of Gatorade.
No biggy, but if youíre used to supplementing with Gatorade on course, itís a little weird.

As for Hammer, I have little experience with them other than their salt caps (which I donít really need).
Most local shops stock all this stuff, so you might wanna mix and match before you go all in with any particular brand.

I will say that I love Cliff Blox, which are big chews, but theyíre  just too bulky to carry around on a run.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on January 20, 2018, 12:44:51 PM
As for the tp, yeah, learned that one Sunday morning on a trail run, where I had to run into the woods for an emergency situation. Luckily, for some random reason, I had picked up a trail map that day which I normally don't do, but was trying some different routes and thought it's be helpful to have just in case I got lost. Came in useful, just not in the way I thought.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

I actually haven't had any issue with the bloody nips (yet), but I do remember that happening many years ago. But maybe it's just the new material that workout/running clothes are made of? I dunno, I'll def keep it in mind. As for the body glide, hadn't picked that up yet, have been pretty good with the in between the legs chaffing (just lucky so far, maybe?), but I did have some issues around the waistband, and didn't even think about applying it there, but I will now.

I don't know anything about the hammer/heed stuff, so I can't comment. But I was wondering about taking a cliff bar out with me for a run, since I use them all the time with hiking, but was thinking it might be too much, to carry, and in my stomach with running vs. hiking...

Anyhow, I'm just stoked to have you guys as a resource to bounce stuff off of. Big time thanks.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on January 20, 2018, 03:01:32 PM
Being the resident fatty runner, I can shed a little light on what I do for the nipple chaffing issues. Itís DEFINITELY an issue for me, so I immediately started wearing compression. Iím a Nike slut, but UA makes quality as well. I usually buy a size down just to keep it tight, but if the compression doesnít bother you, it definitely keeps chaffing issues at bay.

ETA: Hereís a couple pictures of my progress. If youíre on my facebook, youíve seen it, but Iím pretty damn proud of where Iíve made it even this far, so Iím totally not above posting it again haha.

The first is me on the infamous grassy knoll in Dallas - Initial Type Rating school, January of 2016. I would go on to gain another 8lbs after this picture.

The second is Monday after my workout.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 20, 2018, 03:17:56 PM
Nice!
So would you wear two shirts in hot weather, tho?
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on January 20, 2018, 03:33:51 PM
Nice!
So would you wear two shirts in hot weather, tho?
It really doesnít bother me at all. I just make sure that the outer layer is plenty wicking (I like the little air holes personally), and it almost provides a cooling layer. Thatís just me though.

Also, apparently I need a tutorial on how to resize a picture to post on the board here haha.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 20, 2018, 03:41:12 PM
Thatís amazing progress, man!
Keep running!
When you have a long term running goal and you keep nailing your miles, your body  just becomes a furnace and youíre constantly gonna be melting more and more off. Be happy with how far youíve come and be excited about what has yet to be uncovered!
Great job!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 20, 2018, 04:06:40 PM
Mileage is king. Youíll build mental strength while nailing down your LRs and your short runs, too.
The old running saying is ďIt doesnít get easier, you just get stronger.Ē and that is the absolute truth.

The weight comes right off just like pace.
I was 255 on the first day I decided to run.
I couldnít run half of a mile. I gave up. I gave up again and again over the next two weeks but I kept at it.
Fast forward to today and running is one of the most important and rewarding aspects of my life.

Here I am right before I made the decision to change my lifestyle

(https://i.imgur.com/sVTWK3v.jpg)

And this is me after I finished my first 50K race

(https://i.imgur.com/3RnFju9.png)

Iím still ďbigĒ, but it doesnít affect my ability.
This is what the top 200 pounders on LI look like ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/lFkdQz1.png)

Just as fast (and way faster) than the skinny guys.
Keep your head clear and positive, man.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on January 20, 2018, 11:49:56 PM
Thatís power, man.
Thanks for sharing that, it keeps me moving forward.
Today I have felt really kind of out of it... maybe a little virus or something - either way, it was going to be a day off for me anyway, but Iím feeling better now, and hopefully will get right back on the horse tomorrow.
My mileage is increasing, and I DEFINITELY get the ďit doesnít get easier, you just get strongerĒ thing.
I never thought Iíd be at 5K distance by this time of the year... but I just keep pushing.
Letís do it!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: G. Augusto on January 21, 2018, 02:25:55 PM
Yeah, man!
Never lose focus of the big picture.

Running sick is easy.
Neck up = go easy
Neck down = take rest
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on January 22, 2018, 09:41:51 AM
Yeah, man!
Never lose focus of the big picture.

Running sick is easy.
Neck up = go easy
Neck down = take rest

Says the guy that busted out a 5K and 5 miler back to back days with the flu. Solid work man!  :clap:

And thanks to you and todd for the kudos yesterday. John, you should hop on Strava too.

Also, I'm gonna go ahead and retract my statement regarding chaffing and bloody nips...I guess I just hadn't gone out long enough to experience it until yesterday.  :shakehead: I'll be grabbing some body glide and bandaiding up next long run for sure.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 22, 2018, 10:03:40 AM
 :-D

It was inevitable!
If you run, ride, walk, hike on Strava, youíll get kudos from me.
You had a great run!

Strava is a great tool. Itís great for motivation and a great way to be held accountable.
Itís that silent push knowing that all of your splits or whatever or just laid right out there.
ďDude! What happened to you at Mile 6??Ē ďI had to take a shit!Ē
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 22, 2018, 10:14:05 AM
Also, this is a great site if you wanna plan out some new LRs/runs.
Thereís an elevation tab at the bottom, too.
https://onthegomap.com/#/create

I use it all the time to plan out our group Sunday LRs as weíll usually have a long distance and then a shorter option for others.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on January 22, 2018, 10:23:39 AM
Thanks man. Yeah, I thought about what you said yesterday re:it doesn't get easier, you just get stronger. Felt like the first 10 miles I was just on cruise control, by the time I hit 13, I was almost preparing for things to start falling apart at 14 cause that's where I've had trouble my last two long runs, but I pushed right past that and 15 too and was like, whoa, I guess something is happening here. What funny though is I thought, if I can do a half, and tack on a 10K, that'd be pretty good for today. 18.3 That's what I'll do. And then, later in the afternoon, I was like wait, 13.1 and 6.2 is 19.3! But 3 hours and 15 miles in...math gets hard.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

I'll tell you what was helpful for me yesterday, I've been experimenting with run/walk times, and so I set the garmin to 5:30/0:30 run/walk segments, shooting to maintain a 12min pace. I figured that way, every half mile or so, I'd get an indication of where I was at and adjust accordingly. But after 5-6 miles I realized I had all this time "in the bank" cause I was still going about 30-45 sec faster per mile, So I started skipping the mid mile 30 sec break and just making the mile walk break 1:30, and I think that really helped me push and get those extra 2-3 miles. Bottom line, I did 3 miles further than my last long run and at a 30 sec quicker pace. Def going to continue experimenting with that though.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 22, 2018, 11:00:02 AM
Yeah, man!
Whatever works for you!
Everyone will have a different approach, but if you can run faster and longer and still feel pretty good at the end, youíre on to bigger things.
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: aphineday on January 22, 2018, 02:04:24 PM
Apparently I never paid attention to what you were all talking about with Strava. Iíll get on that!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 22, 2018, 02:42:04 PM
Apparently I never paid attention to what you were all talking about with Strava. Iíll get on that!

Itís an amazing resource!
First, itís basically your lifetime running log.
If you run with a watch, you can sync up your Strava acct to your watch.
Otherwise, thereís a Strava app if you run with just your phone.

Along your normal routes, your bound to see ďsegmentsĒ that other Strava users have also run and can see your progress on those sections which is cool.

There also monthly challenges and some are known to throw you free stuff (shoes, clothes, codes) for completing them. No need to win the challenge. Just finish.
Itís a great tool. Plus, weíll hook you up with kudos ;)

https://www.strava.com/athletes/9350641
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: gah on January 22, 2018, 02:44:34 PM
I'll add in to the before and after pics of running in my life as well. That race pic is from fall 2016, and I slacked a little last year, but I'm trying to work my way back to that place...where going out for a run felt like ...riding a bike. Like, my body was just more efficient with it's energy use, and I remember that feeling that aug mentioned about your body feeling like a furnace, where my entire mindset was different in terms of what I was eating too, it was more like I only saw it as fuel for running...and how efficient could I make this thing, at converting what I was putting in, into output energy for running...Anyhow, keep at it brother!
Title: Re: Paug Runners' World
Post by: August on January 22, 2018, 02:56:24 PM
Thatís great progress!
You know how you got to race weight, just focus on mileage and your body will do the rest of the work.
A super healthy diet isnít necessary to run well, nor would I advocate eating crappy all the time, just being mindful throughout the week. I really only eat super clean a week out from big races. Hydration is king, tho.

You guys are crushing it!
Very inspiring transformations!
Maybe youíll even inspire WTU to stick with running!