week4paug.net

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good article here, summing up the rumors and their sources: http://gizmodo.com/5324557/apple-tablet-probability-meter-80-chance-4-months-away (http://gizmodo.com/5324557/apple-tablet-probability-meter-80-chance-4-months-away)

I wonder if I will want this. It looks like I'll be in the market for a new laptop come September... could this be it?


edit: Skip to here to see it actually get announced http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=13065.msg390688#msg390688 (http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=13065.msg390688#msg390688)

i don't think i'd want a tablet

Seems a long way off, I'd be really surprised.

granted, when the rumors first started about the iphone, i didnt want one of those either... and look at me now :roll:

Quote from: mattstick on July 28, 2009, 02:16:03 PM

Seems a long way off, I'd be really surprised.

I dunno.. If the Financial Times article cited there is accurate it's gonna be sooner than you think.

Given the rumblings out there right now I don't think Apple Insider is crazy to predict 2010.

i agree... most sources in china are saying september... so i'd guess that macworld in january would be the time of the actual announcement

I love the idea of this, not so much as a laptop replacement, but a iPod touch & Kindle 2 replacement.

It's funny but, I don't see it as a kindle replacement. Stanza on my iPod Touch does that already.

And to think, I've never even owned a cell phone.   :roll:
That will probably change with kids.

They're useful when you need to be found.

I'm not sure Apple(Steve) sees the demand yet.  With the power they can pack into a phone, a tablet could really be a fill the gap device.  But as we know, Apple's reluctant to fill those gaps.  It's kind of like you're either a beginner or expert.  There are many uses for a tablet, and Apple is the type of company that is likely to just go for it - wouldn't want anyone stealing the thunder.

I want a Wacom

The accessories market alone would be killer.

Custom breakout cables for USB, FireWire800, data.
Custom stands/mounts for use at a desktop with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
Think of the sleeves and screen protectors!

There's a shit-ton of money there alone.

Given all the heat on this to the point that it looks like a lock for January, I thought I'd give her a bump...

I don't really see why you would prefer a tablet to a Macbook, pricing?

When you're at home you use a keyboard but away from home you type on it like an iPhone?

I'm sure I'll want one at some point - I already want the whole product line, but why I want this isn't quite clear.

Personally, I'm not sure if I'd prefer one.

I think the thrust of these is as a media viewer but I'm certain that there are significant productivity applications that could be developed.

I was recently in a doctor's office that used what I know to be very expensive tablet/laptop machines as the primary interface for the nurses and doctors to do their record keeping. Not that the mac tablet would necessarily be the solution but cheaper, lighter, keyboardless, wifi driven, is where they are inevitably going.

I have little doubt that, if Jobs is going to pitch it next month, we won't come away from that with a firm idea of its role in the marketplace.

Yeah, I was listening to the radio this morning and it seems like all of the big players have their own version.  They estimate it will take the place of desktops and laptops in the future due to their light weight and how easy it will be to use.  I am still skeptical but I also just got my first cell phone a month ago so I am definitely behind in the times.   :roll:

Most of the folks I know who own tablets swear by them. Of course, they're also science/engineering nerd types who appreciate diagramming by hand. :)

From everything I've heard on tech blogs, the Apple tablet will be too underpowered to serve those folks. It sounds like they're going to try to create a new market for tablets rather than cater to the existing (niche) one. If anyone's got the Midas touch to pull that off, it's probably Jobs. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out...

I think the specs and openness of the platform will determine the path of the device.
Will it run OSx or iPhoneOS?
Will it be chained to an appstore or will it be open like a regular computer?

i'm firmly in the camp with all of you... what the hell do i need a tablet for?

Quote from: jedifunk on December 29, 2009, 10:22:49 AM
i'm firmly in the camp with all of you... what the hell do i need a tablet for?

Things.
Stuff.

You know, everything.


http://gizmodo.com/tag/apple-tablet/

totally RJ.

i didn't want an iphone when it was just rumors... but once it was announced, i knew i'd be first in line :roll:

I'm still looking for my first mac. January being the time to buy an mbp, I'm holding out and tallying up my apple gift cards and birthday/xmas cash.

Quote from: rowjimmy on December 29, 2009, 09:13:38 AM
I think the specs and openness of the platform will determine the path of the device.
Will it run OSx or iPhoneOS?
Will it be chained to an appstore or will it be open like a regular computer?

My money's on the latter. I can see Apple marketing this device at a somewhat-reasonable price point as the world's coolest Kindle.

If Apple manufactures a Core2Duo tablet, it's going to be a niche option within an already niche market. If Dell can get away with charging $1900 (after ~$500 instant discount) for their new Latitude tablets, how high will the bill run for an Apple?

I think they're gonna keep the price point down...

Quote from: rowjimmy on December 29, 2009, 11:17:54 AM
I'm still looking for my first mac. January being the time to buy an mbp, I'm holding out and tallying up my apple gift cards and birthday/xmas cash.

Can you use the Apple gift cards for something else?

There are some good deals on MBPs from 3rd parties. Like here:
http://www.macconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=9899411&SourceID=k188598

Quote from: Alumni on December 29, 2009, 11:30:18 AM

Quote from: rowjimmy on December 29, 2009, 11:17:54 AM
I'm still looking for my first mac. January being the time to buy an mbp, I'm holding out and tallying up my apple gift cards and birthday/xmas cash.

Can you use the Apple gift cards for something else?

There are some good deals on MBPs from 3rd parties. Like here:
http://www.macconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=9899411&SourceID=k188598

The gift cards are not the majority of my funding.

I think this is a "by popular demand" device.  I just hope that Apple has something worthwhile planned with its release.  The newspaper/magazine thing is good, but I think the service would be better like where you actually download a publication, not just browse a website with a subscription.  Could work like a "pdf podcast".  Other than that, there's the opportunity for it to be a decent gaming device and generally the next step in touchscreen tech.

While we're filling the gaps, where's that headless iMac?

"by popular demand" if done right is a good idea for Apple right now.

Consider the fact that Google has a netbook os due next year and is hosting an Android "event" on Jan5 at which they will be announcing the google phone.

Apple has a new major competitor...

i don't think apple worries too much about competitors

Quote from: jedifunk on December 29, 2009, 01:43:22 PM
i don't think apple worries too much about competitors

That's a silly statement given their ongoing mac/pc ad campaign don't you think?

not at all... apple isnt concerned with gaining market share, they don't care what MS does IMO.

now maybe in markets that they are the kings in they might care more (cellphone, music)

but overall i think apple does a good job of knowing what they do and doing it better than anyone

I think you are overestimating their aloofness.

It would be unwise and likely to send them back into the wilderness that was the Jobs-free years to ignore the competition.

Which is why I don't think that they are doing that.
Google is pushing closer and closer to Apple's turf.

let me rephrase that... i know apple pays attention to the competition, but i think they do a great job of doing their own thing.

Quote from: jedifunk on December 29, 2009, 02:10:11 PM
not at all... apple isnt concerned with gaining market share, they don't care what MS does IMO.

now maybe in markets that they are the kings in they might care more (cellphone, music)

but overall i think apple does a good job of knowing what they do and doing it better than anyone

That's just it. I think Jobs & co see the new tablet (if it exists) as a new market that they can "win." I think they see it more along the lines of the iPod and iPhone than the MBP. $.02

Quote from: jedifunk on December 29, 2009, 02:25:36 PM
let me rephrase that... i know apple pays attention to the competition, but i think they do a great job of doing their own thing.

They do.

My point is that "their own thing" is seeing greater competition.

So will this thing have Flash Memory? 16GB?
Optical drive?

I also think that no matter how hard they try on the hardware side, Google and Windows will always fall years behind of Apple.

My prediction:

Flash or SSHdd
Card slot
No optical drive
wifi
bluetooth
USB?

i agree with RJ on the specs... no optical drive.

and while they may see more competition, i don't think it affects how they decide to do business.  at least as far as what products to release and when.

I think this will be rather successful product.  The consumers are becoming more and more interested in touch screens and gadgetry.  Iphone, Droid, new touch screen PC's entering the consumer market place, etc.

I see it as a larger itouch.  If it lands in the $500 mark, I'd be on that train.  A Bluetooth keyboard would make this a sweet device around the house.  Recipes, surfing the interweb, etc.  I think a tablet from Apple sounds like a sweet idea.

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/12/30/rumor-mill-tablet-to-be-large-scale-iphone/

Google China's former head has posted what appears to be insider details about the (possibly) upcoming Apple tablet device. According to Gadget Mix, Kaifu Lee blogs that "an informed friend" told him the Apple tablet looks like a larger scale iPhone with "an awesome UI packed in a beautiful 10.1-inch screen."

Gadget Mix's Tommy Lawson writes that Kaifu Lee's Chinese-language post (Google Translate version) suggests that the tablet will provide eBook functionality, a virtual keyboard, and a built-in webcam, with 10 million units to be produced in the first year of distribution. He adds that Lee's ongoing relationship with Taiwan's Foxconn Technology Group lends weight to his reliability as a source on the subject.

Although this development adds no new features into the tablet rumor mill, it's comforting to know that the possibly mythical tablet is getting more and more plausible by the day.

http://gizmodo.com/5437293/apples-january-26th-event-confirmed-by-fox-news

January 26th...
Get ready.

heard more rumors on the specs too.  Like it'll be an iPhone on steroids...  Lots of multitouch.  This should be fun.  I'm more and more sucked in every day.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9143107/Apple_s_tablet_will_use_Verizon_s_3G_network_sources_say (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9143107/Apple_s_tablet_will_use_Verizon_s_3G_network_sources_say)

So we should be expecting Verizon to pick up the iPhone also  :beers:

Quote from: whyweigh4.0 on January 15, 2010, 09:51:44 AM
So we should be expecting Verizon to pick up the iPhone also  :beers:

I could only guess that it is in the near future.

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Quote from: jephrey on January 18, 2010, 11:08:08 PM
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80's splatter-art jeans?

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/technology/26apple.html

Good article. Here's a small snippet:

QuoteIt will run all the applications of the iPhone and iPod Touch, have a persistent wireless connection over 3G cellphone networks and Wi-Fi, and will be built with a 10-inch color display, allowing newspapers, magazines and book publishers to deliver their products with an eye to the design that had grabbed readers in print.

Do the current book readers have internet connections?

There was an interesting article on TUAW about how the Tablet could replace text books in schools.  Seems a long way off, especially given school budgets but I can see the potential.

Quote from: mattstick on January 26, 2010, 09:11:42 AM

Do the current book readers have internet connections?

The Kindle does.

Quote from: mattstick on January 26, 2010, 09:11:42 AM

Do the current book readers have internet connections?

There was an interesting article on TUAW about how the Tablet could replace text books in schools.  Seems a long way off, especially given school budgets but I can see the potential.

I was chatting with my father in law about that recently.  I don't know how far off it really is.  Considering the movement towards "green" and the fact that current college students have grown up with a PC since day 1, I think you would see it happen at the University/college level.  Some places require students to have laptops.  Why not a tablet with their text books.  I could see just saving tons of trees as a major benefit alone. 

Public schools in Canada have already moved away from having Macs in the classroom because of budget restrictions.

I agree that a huge % of University/College students could have these within even 2 years.  It also curbs something that text book publishers hate - used book sales.

I think that this will be a very flashy, sexy device - but it will also be very restricted unless "hacked" as far as installing pirated software, and making you pay for every single thing you do on the device.

Quote from: mattstick on January 26, 2010, 09:29:37 AM
I think that this will be a very flashy, sexy device - but it will also be very restricted unless "hacked" as far as installing pirated software, and making you pay for every single thing you do on the device.

Why would you think it would be restricted?  If you are referring to the educational side only, then yeah it would have to be limited.  As a consumer tool, I would think it would remain open. 

But then again, if you limit its abilities even at the educational level, don't you really limit its true ability as a tool? 

Given how much my wife was looking at paying for her textbooks for one class this semester, I'm all for e-readers/tablets replacing them.

Quote from: UncleEbinezer on January 26, 2010, 09:36:44 AM
Why would you think it would be restricted?  If you are referring to the educational side only, then yeah it would have to be limited.  As a consumer tool, I would think it would remain open. 

I'm certain the OS will be closer to the iPhone OS than Mac OS. 

Want Photoshop for your tablet?  Download and install it from the App Store for $499.99

The pricing/business model of the App Store on a large scale is very inticing to Apple, I'm sure.

It's definitely going to be a variant of iPhone OS.

I agree that if it makes it to classrooms it will be on the college level before anything, long before.  I've heard nightmares of how much just buying used college textbooks can be... it's ridiculous and being able to use one of these tablets instead would def save students some money on that end I think.  As for other venues though, like high schools. 90% just don't have the budget to make this happen, not even close.  So unless Apple does something like "Tablets for students" or something like that I just don't see it happening for a while

Quote from: rowjimmy on January 26, 2010, 09:43:05 AM
Given how much my wife was looking at paying for her textbooks for one class this semester, I'm all for e-readers/tablets replacing them.

yeah it's outrageous.

I do believe college textbooks are heading towards a kindle or tablet like device. I don't believe the ensuing consumer discount will be as high as we would like it to be. :) higher profits for the textbook racket will come first.

anyway I love my kindle, but before it was gifted to me I wad a bonafide Kindle hater. I despised the idea of paying for a book I couldn't put on the shelf. but the form factor of the Kindle won me over. maybe I'm a lazy American but it makes reading in bed soooo much easier.

having said all that I am skeptical of the Apple Tablet. I think apple is due for a fail, and if this thing is at the rumored price point of $1000 it could be a fail.

I think the argument of not having to buy books sounds nice, but students are still going to pay high prices to have these books online.  Of course, someone will find a way around it, but don't expect prices for books to plummet due to this sort of technology.  Somebody is getting paid somewhere for these books.

What I've been reading over the past week puts the price at well below $1000.

I'm certain that the cost of physically producing a text book is a huge percentage of the retail price of the book.  A simple download would have to be priced under $20 imo.

Quote from: rowjimmy on January 26, 2010, 11:50:00 AM
What I've been reading over the past week puts the price at well below $1000.

If it comes in at $500 I'm in, but that may be a little too low.

More on the textbook front: http://www.tuaw.com/2010/01/25/is-jobs-looking-to-overhaul-education-with-the-tablet/

I'm kinda with this guy...

http://www.tuaw.com/2010/01/26/some-personal-thoughts-about-the-apple-tablet/

Some personal thoughts about the Apple Tablet
by Mel Martin (RSS feed) on Jan 26th 2010 at 8:00AM

From every hint, from every rumor, from every direction it seems like some sort of Apple tablet is a done deal. We'll know for sure Wednesday, probably after a "one more thing" from El Jobso.

If a tablet is announced, I'm trying to figure out if I will buy one. I already have a Mac Pro desktop, a very serviceable MacBook Pro, and the latest 3GS iPhone. For reading I have a Kindle, and the 2 week battery life is pretty hard to beat. It's small, it's thin, and compared to the rumored cost of the Apple tablet, it's likely a lot cheaper.

But I think the dilemma will be even rougher on MacBook owners, who already have a nice small information appliance they can take anywhere. Looking at it as objectively as I can, there doesn't seem to be any room in my life for a tablet. It seems like the cure for which there is no disease. I get my email easily away from home any number of ways, and the iPhone is so good at so many things I don't take my laptop on the road as much as I used to. If, as expected, the tablet is smaller than the MacBook, maybe as thin as the MacBook Air, and significantly less expensive than either of those, it will turn some heads, but probably not mine. No way.


Of course it will take some stamina to resist the reality distortion field, and every friend I have will be wondering exactly when I'll get that tablet. I am "Mr. Mac," after all, and that's a lot of pressure. In fact, even now, the more I think about life without the tablet, the more difficult life seems. My resolve is slowly coming apart at the seams as I write these words.

To hell with it! It's not something I need. It doesn't solve any problems I have. I can resist. I am strong. I may be "Mr. Mac," but I am also "Mr. Practical."

Which is exactly what I said when the iPhone came out. 3 days later I was in the Apple Store eagerly holding out my credit card to anyone who would take it.

Quote from: mattstick on January 26, 2010, 01:01:14 PM
3 days later I was in the Apple Store eagerly holding out my credit card to anyone who would take it.

Only time will tell.   :wink:

Quote from: mattstick on January 26, 2010, 11:52:56 AM
I'm certain that the cost of physically producing a text book is a huge percentage of the retail price of the book.  A simple download would have to be priced under $20 imo.

in 2000 I had a class where my "book" was a binder full of black and white photocopied articles. it cost $176. I would predict price drops of 20%, tops. students have to buy the books their professor tells them to, so there is no reason for textbook companies to minimize profit. we'll get the aforementioned small discount just as a "here's a benefit to you" bone, and honestly I'll be glad to get it.

I'm with that guy too.  I have a MacBook.  I have an iPhone.  They booth take care of just about everything I need.  One thing that would interest me in the tablet though is the use of a pressure sensitive pen for using in photoshop

I doubt that $100+ e-textbooks will be the norm.

Plus, every student should know you buy texts on a "need to use" basis, not at the beginning of term.

Quote from: mattstick on January 26, 2010, 02:04:46 PM
I doubt that $100+ e-textbooks will be the norm.

we'll just have to wait and see. :)

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/is-this-the-apple-tablet/
Leaked pics there of what may be the tablet.. not too pretty dues to the security measures but... well you can wait a couple hours anyway, right?

Also of note in that article are the rumors about today's announcement:
tablet will be on verizon
iphone to be on verizon
iphone os update
ilife update
no macbook updates  :cry:

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http://gizmodo.com/5458217/is-this-the-outside-of-the-apple-tablet

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This seems like the right place so I'm going all Quadafecta on your asses and I'll be liveblogging the liveblogs of the event today...
Starts in 25 minutes.

Perfect.

Oh, and for those wondering when this pc guy is switching... mark your calendars for next month...

Here we go.

(apparently, wifi went down and at&t 3g is jammed up useless in there. LOL)

Updates first then "new magical, revolutionary product"

250million ipods sold

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140K apps in app store, 3 billion app downloads

34 years:
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Now for the main event:
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"Let's go back to 1991, when we first shipped our Powerbooks. The first with a TFT screen, the first with palm rests, and had an integrated pointing device. Just a few years ago in 2007 we reinvented the phone... and a few years later we got the iPhone 3GS."

"SO all of us use laptops and smartphones... the question has arisen; is there room for something in the middle. We've wondered for years as well -- in order to create that category, they have to be far better at doing some key tasks... better than the laptop, better than the smartphone."

"What kind of tasks? Browsing the web. Doing email. Enjoying and sharing pics. Watching videos. Enjoying music. Playing games. Reading ebooks. Or it has no reason for being."

"Now some people thought that was a netbook -- the problem is that netbooks aren't better than anything!" Big cheers! Ha!
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"We think we've got something that is better. And we call it the iPad."
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"Album, photos... you can look at all of them, flick through them, it's a wonderful way to share. Calendar... months..." The interface really does look like an exploded iPhone.

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First up, he’s showing up Safari, going to Apple.com. Now he’s visiting the New York Times website. The page renders just like a browser’s, and there are the navigational buttons on the top.

Jobs clicked a story and there is a missing plugin error (is this flash? Does this mean that the iPad won’t have flash?)

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Menus:
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Email:
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And to compose a message, click on compose and “up pops this gorgeous keyboard here.” Steve Jobs is typing actually NOT with his thumbs, but with fingers, like on a real keyboard. He’s placing it on his lap and typing away semi-naturally. But not without errors.



It’s a cross platform device, because he can sync photos with Mac and Windows, but if he’s on a Mac, you can get photo data like events and Places from iPhoto.

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Octofecta  :-o

"You get the idea." Applause.

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iTunes. jobs is playing Dylan.
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Now, iTunes. He can pull up songs similar to the new Album Cover view in iTunes, and he taps different album covers to bring up a list of songs in that album. Tapping a song there plays the song. It’s more similar to iTunes on the desktop than iPod on the iPhone.
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Jobs jumped over to calendar, which looks really like the one on the desktop, except for a couple more views like Day and List, which looks more like an organizer book (a physical one).

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But what else? There’s a maps app, which is Google Maps (he doesn’t mention Google by name though!) Not yet, anyway.
He’s loading up his current location, that means this has GPS or some kind of location sensing. But, there’s no icon on the top next to the Wi-Fi icon that shows a 3G connection.


TV shows, Movies, etc:
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.5 inches thin, 1.5 pounds -- 9.7 inch IPS display

Full capacitive multitouch
Apple's own processor 1GHz Apple A4 chip.
16,32, & 64GB flash storage

Accellerometer, compass, speaker, microphone, 30-pin connector.
10 hours battery (watching video!)
month of standby

wifi - 802.11n
bluetooth


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Same App store. All current iphone apps will work, and they can run full screen.
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HOW MUCH?!?!?!

Quote from: UncleEbinezer on January 27, 2010, 01:35:03 PM
HOW MUCH?!?!?!

Wait for it...
"So all of the iPhone apps will run on this. In fact when you buy it, download all the apps you have right onto the iPad. Now if the developer spends some time modifying their app, they can take full advantage of this display."

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"We rewrote all of our apps for this display. the iPhone SDK supports development for this now... and we're releasing it today."

I was trying to add to the suspense.   :wink:

Apple will highlight apps that are created explicitly for the iPad in the iPad store as well. You can get iPhone apps, of course, but they will highlight the special ones.

Gaming demo...

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They can “interact with the game world in ways that weren’t possible before,” like sliding three fingers on the screen to interact with a door.
You can also do motions like sliding two fingers across the screen to throw a grenade.

New York Times demo:
"So Steve showed you the Times website, it's beautiful. Why did we come out here to develop a new app for the iPad? Our iPhone app has been downloaded 3m times. We wanted to create something special for the iPad."

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Embedded video in articles can be played.
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Brushes:
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Electronic Arts:
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MLB.com
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Live video:
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Those apps were all developed in just two weeks.

OMG the MLB app looks heady

keep the price low to drive up App sales?

Please?

iBooks
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Five big partners... Penguin, Macmillion, Simon & Shuster... and more.


Jobs is showing off the bookshelf. You can hit the store button, and the bookshelf flips around to show the iBooks store. It’s basically the same as the App Store or the iTunes store.

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"You can change the font... whatever you want. And that is iBooks."

"So iBooks again, a great reader, a great online bookstore. All in one really great app. We use the ePub format. We're very excited about this."

 :-o

:antelope19 can see it now:

"Daddy, what's a Library?"

"Well, son/daughter.  It was this place you could go to get books"

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iWork for the iPad!

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Quote from: antelope19 on January 27, 2010, 01:59:44 PM
:-o

:antelope19 can see it now:

"Daddy, what's a Library Bookstore ?"

Quote from: mattstick on January 27, 2010, 02:00:50 PM

Quote from: antelope19 on January 27, 2010, 01:59:44 PM
:-o

:antelope19 can see it now:

"Daddy, what's a Library Bookstore ?"

Yeah, that too

So iWork is totally redesigned for the iPad. I'm not going to reblawg every little detail but it looks neato.

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iWork apps are $9.99 each.
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Quote from: antelope19 on January 27, 2010, 01:59:44 PM
:-o

:antelope19 can see it now:

"Daddy, what's a Library?"

"Well, son/daughter.  It was this place you could go to get books"

People like me will guarantee that books and libraries remain.  I fucking HATE ebooks and all this digital reading BS!!!  Much like many of us eat organic, drink micro brews and smoke quality cannabis...there will always be a place for books. 

Books are so much more than just words on a page, this ebook thing is a fad!!!  (I hope or I'm checking out of this society!)

Sorry dude. Future is here.

---

Jobs:
“A few other things…I’d like to talk about iTunes.” It syncs like an iPhone with your Mac or PC over the 30-pin cable. You sync everything: photos, music, movies, TV shows, contacts, calendars, bookmarks and applications, like the iPhone. Even backups."
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BOOM
AT&T including free AT&T hotspot access

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"So how do you turn this on and manage it? You can activate this right on the iPad. And there's no contract -- it's prepaid."

"WiFI plus 3G if you want it. So iPad. It's phenomenal. Email is fantastic, best device for photos, great for music, great for video. It runs almost all of the 140k apps on the app store, as well as a whole new generation of apps."

It's sold unlocked.

3g is not req'd.

So people who read eBooks also eat McDonalds, drink Bud Light and smoke schwag?

Stay crunchy brah.

Quote from: mattstick on January 27, 2010, 02:14:37 PM
So people who read eBooks also eat McDonalds, drink Bud Light and smoke schwag?

Stay crunchy brah.

:lol:

Oh, and LOL at "ebooks being a fad" too. 

Quote from: antelope19 on January 27, 2010, 02:06:17 PM

Quote from: mattstick on January 27, 2010, 02:00:50 PM

Quote from: antelope19 on January 27, 2010, 01:59:44 PM
:-o

:antelope19 can see it now:

"Daddy, what's a Library Bookstore ?"

Yeah, that too

Thats' why Borders Group (Waldenbooks) is on the verge of chapter 11...

So, are we gonna get a new iphone today too?  Is it christmas in january?

price is coming!

He says “pundits” said it would be under $1000, which is $999.


$499

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“We will be shipping iPads in 60 days, worldwide availability of Wi-Fi models.” It’ll be another 30 days beyond that for 3G models.

Quote from: antelope19 on January 27, 2010, 02:18:48 PM
So, are we gonna get a new iphone today too?  Is it christmas in january?

skype on yer ipad, bruh.

hey look, its an oversized iphone

Quote from: mattstick on January 27, 2010, 02:14:37 PM
So people who read eBooks also eat McDonalds, drink Bud Light and smoke schwag?

Stay crunchy brah.

No, but I am suggesting some of us prefer things done a different way than the masses.  Ebooks to me are the equivalent of fast food...instant gratification. Book making is a craft in amongst itself.  Printing is a trade.  These things will not disappear just because a bunch of cool kids want to download the newest genre fiction rag on the subway on the way to their 9-5.

Also I am not hip to all these cool internet memes so, OK cool, crunchy it is!!! :-D

those things will not entirely disappear but mass producing books costs trees dude. 1s and 0s have a lower carbon footprint.

Anyway, if you're not into that stuff, you're in the wrong thread.

1's and 0's for life!

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That's it for the event.

Shit. I want one.


MacBook Pro first for me but... Christmas! I'm looking at you!

this thing looks pretty neat.
i gotta agree though that ebooks can suck it.

I never thought they'd hit a $499 pricepoint. I am really impressed.

I might have to own it.

HULK WANT

I've been reading books on my iPod Touch for the past year. It's awesome but small.
The iPad fixes that. Add the gaming and a watchable size for video and you've got a serial winner.

trees, as much as i love 'em, are renewable.  electricity, in most places, is still highly pollutant.  as well as all of the hazardous stuff that goes into a computer and its batteries, which probably a high percentage of people are still not aware of proper disposal methods.  neither are exactly environmentally sound, but you gotta take the good with the bad. 

but, i cant read online or ebooks.  i get distracted by the grandness of the internet at my fingertips.  i prefer paper books for that reason alone. 

i think iTab is a giant "yawn."

Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on January 27, 2010, 02:35:27 PM
this thing looks pretty cool neat.
i gotta agree though that ebooks can suck it.

I'm telling y'all, I am a huge bibliophile. I collect books, have bookshelves all over my house, buy LEs and small press. I hated the idea of ebooks, HATED IT, until I was gifted a kindle. now I love it. it's just so freaking convenient.

that new iWork makes it a no-brainer purchase for me...  not sure what this unlocked for "GSM Micro SIM" shit is about though, i want regular SIMs to work in there too. 

WANT

Quote from: rowjimmy on January 27, 2010, 02:31:59 PM
1s and 0s have a lower carbon footprint.

Yeah but where do all those old computer parts go???  I'm sure they are soo much less harmful to the environment.  But anyhow...no need to continue this since I am probably one of the last people on earth with a respect for print.  (At the very least in this thread.)  I'll just be chilling, staying crunchy like mattstick suggested.

But, good thing this thing does more than ebooks since it is very attractive to me since I do not have an iphone and that price point should make everyone think...I just get cross eyed reading from a screen. 

Quote from: rowjimmy on January 27, 2010, 02:33:35 PM
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Those wouldn't be average SAT scores listed above each choice would they??? :-P

This kinda feels like a big deal, and that's coming from a dude who still subscribes to the newspaper.

Quote from: guyforget on January 27, 2010, 02:39:15 PM

i think iTab is a giant "yawn."

Wait, I'm gonna be able to get Tab on this thing?  What about Pepsi Free?

No, dude.  Classic TAB.

!!! vs. ??


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Quote from: rowjimmy on January 27, 2010, 02:33:35 PM
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Those wouldn't be average SAT scores listed above each choice would they??? :-P

That was the last slide in the presentation today.

You don't want to get into comparing SAT scores, dude.

Quote from: antelope19 on January 27, 2010, 02:47:44 PM
!!! vs. ??


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My first post to change.

Quote from: rowjimmy on January 27, 2010, 02:50:20 PM

You don't want to get into comparing SAT scores, dude.

Ha!!!  Just sayin'.

Anyhow you are right, I do not want to compare since SATs measure a very limited and narrow view of intelligence and are for all intents and purposes, bullshit.

Quote from: thatfargone on January 27, 2010, 02:27:52 PM

No, but I am suggesting some of us prefer things done a different way than the masses.  Ebooks to me are the equivalent of fast food...instant gratification. Book making is a craft in amongst itself.  Printing is a trade.  These things will not disappear just because a bunch of cool kids want to download the newest genre fiction rag on the subway on the way to their 9-5.

Also I am not hip to all these cool internet memes so, OK cool, crunchy it is!!! :-D

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/10/sunday/main6079170.shtml

Sounds like you didn't fare too well...  :wink:

Anyway.

As for the environmental question, remember that Apple is an industry leader in reducing their impact.

QuoteiPad embodies Apple's continuing environmental progress. It is designed with the following features to reduce environmental impact:

    * Arsenic-free display glass
    * BFR-free
    * Mercury-free LCD display
    * PVC-free
    * Recyclable aluminum and glass enclosure

See I really like the topic of books vs. ebooks...but it is sooo much more than what we really should go into in this thread.  No way to seriously debate the topic without completely hijacking this thread.

RJ:  LOL!!! No, I did not...but still not my point.  Too hard to fill in all those circles when on lsd anyhow!  I never took them for real.  Already was going going to NOVA and transferring to GMU...no need for SATs!

But for the record....950 completely spun!

overall, i think its disappointing.  i was expecting something more like a cross between a wacom cintiq and an iphone, and this just seems like an oversized iphone. 

I expect they'll sell a bazillion of these.

I'm shocked at the price point, not convinced I need one, but will probably buy the 2nd gen.

If I was a commuter, I'd have my CC out.

Quote from: thatfargone on January 27, 2010, 02:59:17 PM
See I really like the topic of books vs. ebooks...but it is sooo much more than what we really should go into in this thread.  No way to seriously debate the topic without completely hijacking this thread.

Note:  phish has sneakily used the iPad announcement distraction as their chance to surreptitiously release 11/19/92

http://www.livephish.com/live-music/0,527/Phish-mp3-flac-download-11-19-1992-Ross-Arena-Saint-Michaels-College-Colchester-VT.html

Quote from: rowjimmy on January 27, 2010, 03:09:49 PM
I expect they'll sell a bazillion of these.

of course they will.  and to people who already have a laptop and an iphone.  just look at how theyve got mattstick hypnotized! 

Hands on!!!
http://i.gizmodo.com/5457757/apple-ipad-first-hands-on

Quote from: mattstick on January 27, 2010, 03:12:47 PM

I'm shocked at the price point, not convinced I need one, but will probably buy the 2nd gen.

If I was a commuter, I'd have my CC out.

Gotta get my macbookpro first.
But yeah, I'm all over this thing...

Quote from: UncleEbinezer on January 26, 2010, 11:55:21 AM
If it comes in at $500 I'm in

Damn it, I guess I have to get one.

I think it'll be a success, but I can't think of a reason to own it other than the MLB app.

And I think I've already decided to pay for Extra Innings as opposed to mlb.tv or a mobile app. I can always watch from my laptop via slingplayer.

Would I rather have it than a Kindle or Sony reader? Hell, yeah. But it's still a bit short on features (no camera = limited skype, no multitasking, Safari only = bad news for those who must use badly-designed web sites for work).

What do you call something that doesn't FAIL but doesn't WIN, either?

ETA:

Ironically I would have been more interested if this had actually turned out to be a "Mac Tablet." Compared to a Kindle or netbook, though, this thing compares much more favorably...

I <3 my Kindle. I travel a lot for work and have to take a work notebook with me (never gonna be a Mac esp. as long as HP is my only customer)... if I'm carrying a notebook with me, I don't want another device as big as a notebook with me, as well. Even at 1.5 lbs that's too much added to my backpack. Kindle plus a 160gb iPod and I'm set for the type of travel I do.

I haven't used a Kindle, but I've read that one thing they got right is the paper-like matte display. That's one thing I wonder about w/ the iPad: how usable is it outside or in natural sunlight? Glossy displays are notoriously bad for outdoor viewing, unless they're capable of retina-searing brightness. That works, but it kills battery life like nothing else...

Quote from: mattstick on January 27, 2010, 02:37:08 PM

HULK WANT

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I'm not sure if it's a natural evolution of products for me, or completely unnecessary given that I have a Macbook Pro, Desktop iMac and iPhone.

I can see myself reading RSS feeds on this thing, displaying recipies in the kitchen, watching movies on it in bed, reading books on it...

Quote from: mattstick on January 28, 2010, 08:02:07 AM

I'm not sure if it's a natural evolution of products for me, or completely unnecessary given that I have a Macbook Pro, Desktop iMac and iPhone.

I can see myself reading RSS feeds on this thing, displaying recipies in the kitchen, watching movies on it in bed, reading books on it...

But Jobs has Hulk hands!

JOBS SMASH KINDLE

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iPad!!

http://www.youtube.com/v/lskbO1k9VO0&hl=en_US&fs=1&

Found this article today, note his quote in the first paragraph...
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/jacketcopy/2008/01/hey-steve-jobs.html

Looks pretty cool, but I won't be getting one for a myriad of reasons, none of them anti-Apple. Enjoy it for those that do splurge on it...

Thought this was an interesting tie-in to our iPad / textbook discussion.

http://www.tuaw.com/2010/02/16/1000-iphone-law-exam-review-app-sends-traditional-publisher-run/ (http://www.tuaw.com/2010/02/16/1000-iphone-law-exam-review-app-sends-traditional-publisher-run/)

Quote from: mattstick on February 16, 2010, 04:30:39 PM

Thought this was an interesting tie-in to our iPad / textbook discussion.

http://www.tuaw.com/2010/02/16/1000-iphone-law-exam-review-app-sends-traditional-publisher-run/ (http://www.tuaw.com/2010/02/16/1000-iphone-law-exam-review-app-sends-traditional-publisher-run/)

Text books and test prep book prices are out of control.  I actually have no problem with this and it should be good for students regardless of what format they study with.

Anybody getting in one day one of the iPad sales?

Me neither.

Couple interesting tidbits have been clarified or changed since the announcement though.

They've added a "Screen Rotation Lock" button. On the left is what they showed us @ the launch. The right is what is presently for sale...
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This is good if your reading lying down or whatever... nothing more annoying as when I'm playing a game on my iPod touch and it flips orientation because I tilt too far.

Also, they've explained how the data service stuff works. Looks super easy.
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/12/apple-details-ipad-3g-service-sign-up-and-management/ (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/12/apple-details-ipad-3g-service-sign-up-and-management/)

Not sure if I have the disposable income to get one day 1, but I'm looking into it.

Quote from: mattstick on March 12, 2010, 10:49:21 AM
Not sure if I have the disposable income to get one day 1, but I'm looking into it.

MBP refresh is looking imminent so I'm saving my dough for that drop...

i'm most interested in the 32gb 3G version, but want to try it out first... 

Buddy of mine ordered on Friday for pickup in the store.  I debated but am looking to get a new machine this year so that's probably out for the time being.  I do need something portable though, so I will be looking to get one eventually.

The screen lock is tits, I hope it remembers the setting for apps.

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 :laugh: :laugh:

i LOL'd


on another note, i'm almost definitely going to pick up the 3G model when that ships- as much as i'd like to wait for rev. 2 with the camera, this is going to be a pretty slick device and i can seriously use it for work with a full version of Pages on there.  i'm only hesitating a little bit until i get to actually use one of these suckers, so i'll play with a WiFi model in the store when those show up in a week-plus.

Don't see much point in having a still camera on there, but the potential for iChat sounds awesome.

This isn't a phone, you're not going to replace it in a year or two, are we sure the 3G network will be the definitive data network 3 or 4 years from now?

Quote from: mattstick on March 24, 2010, 09:40:15 AM

Don't see much point in having a still camera on there, but the potential for iChat sounds awesome.

This isn't a phone, you're not going to replace it in a year or two, are we sure the 3G network will be the definitive data network 3 or 4 years from now?

i like it for iChat too, that's the only reason i care actually. 

i'm thinking 3G will be around for a bit, especially in the various African countries i tend to visit...  i'm assuming this thing will drop back to EDGE if necessary, but maybe not??

http://www.tuaw.com/2010/03/26/project-gutenberg-ebooks-will-be-included-in-the-ibookstore-for/ (http://www.tuaw.com/2010/03/26/project-gutenberg-ebooks-will-be-included-in-the-ibookstore-for/)

Project Gutenberg ebooks will be included in the iBookstore for free
by Chris Rawson (RSS feed) on Mar 26th 2010 at 1:00AM

Two days ago we told you that Project Gutenberg's ebooks should be compatible with the iPad, and we even showed you some ways to get around any possible restrictions Apple could have imposed on the vast catalog of free ebooks. Well, it looks like those workarounds won't be necessary, because according to appadvice, the entire Project Gutenberg catalog will be offered for free from the iBookstore.

Project Gutenberg has a library of over 30,000 books online, with classic titles from all walks of literature. Apple's not only supporting access to this vast library of works, they're officially offering it from within their own store, for free. This is a pretty classy move from Apple, and one that makes the iPad a very attractive purchase for anyone interested in reading the classics without shelling out a whole lot of money for them.

Here are the Top 100 Project Gutenberg titles:

http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/scores/top (http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/scores/top)

Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll (1128)
The Outline of Science, Vol. 1 (of 4) by J. Arthur Thomson (619)
Manners, Customs, and Dress During the Middle Ages and During the Renaissance Period by P. L. Jacob (601)
The Kama Sutra of Vatsyayana by Vatsyayana (447)
Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen (417)
Illustrated History of Furniture by Frederick Litchfield (401)
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain (390)
The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (343)
Five Hundred Mistakes of Daily Occurrence in Speaking, Pronouncing, and Writing the English Language (299)
All About Coffee by William H. Ukers (284)
Our Day by William Ambrose Spicer (272)
Through the Looking-Glass by Lewis Carroll (271)
Ulysses by James Joyce (264)
Dracula by Bram Stoker (261)
Searchlights on Health by B. G. Jefferis and J. L. Nichols (252)
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll (248)
History of the United States by Charles A. Beard and Mary Ritter Beard (244)
Elements of Structural and Systematic Botany by Douglas Houghton Campbell (236)
Surgical Anatomy by Joseph Maclise (233)
Myths and Legends of Ancient Greece and Rome by E.M. Berens (223)
Call Him Savage by John Pollard (217)
General Science by Bertha M. Clark (212)
The Iliad by Homer (211)
A Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens (211)
The Beginner's American History by D. H. Montgomery (209)
Irish Fairy Tales (202)
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain (196)
The Practice and Science of Drawing by Harold Speed (186)
The Art of War by Sunzi 6th cent. B.C. (185)
The Record of Currupira by Robert Abernathy (184)
Frankenstein by Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley (181)
War and Peace by graf Leo Tolstoy (177)
Screw-Thread Cutting by the Master-Screw Method since 1480 by Edwin A. Battison (176)
The Shrieking Pit by Arthur J. Rees (175)
The Prince by Niccolò Machiavelli (174)
Encyclopedia of Needlework by Thérèse de Dillmont (174)
Woman as Decoration by Emily Burbank (170)
Keats: Poems Published in 1820 by John Keats (168)
The People's Common Sense Medical Adviser in Plain English by Ray Vaughn Pierce (167)
The Importance of Being Earnest by Oscar Wilde (166)
Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka (164)
The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas père (158)
The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde (156)
Discoverers and Explorers by Edward R. Shaw (156)
The Aesop for Children by Aesop (154)
England, Picturesque and Descriptive by Joel Cook (152)
Amusements in Mathematics by Henry Ernest Dudeney (152)
Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë (148)
Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë (146)
Grimm's Fairy Tales by Jacob Grimm and Wilhelm Grimm (142)
A Treatise on Anatomy, Physiology, and Hygiene (Revised Edition) by Calvin Cutter (141)
A Study in Scarlet by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (141)
Great Expectations by Charles Dickens (140)
The World's Best Poetry, Volume 3 by Various (139)
The Art of Stage Dancing by Ned Wayburn (138)
Myths of the Norsemen by H. A. Guerber (138)
Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift (138)
The Mafulu by Robert Wood Williamson (137)
A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift (136)
Concrete Construction by Halbert Powers Gillette and Charles Shattuck Hill (136)
Encyclopaedia Britannica, 11th Edition, Volume 4, Part 3 by Various (134)
The Sex Side of Life by Mary Dennett (132)
My Lady of the Chimney Corner by Alexander Irvine (130)
Mexico by C. Reginald Enock (129)
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll (128)
Emma by Jane Austen (126)
Doctrina Christiana by Anonymous (126)
Emma by Jane Austen (126)
The Child's Day by Woods Hutchinson (125)
On the Trail by Adelia B. Beard and Lina Beard (124)
The Infant's Skull by Eugène Sue (123)
Scouting For Girls, Official Handbook of the Girl Scouts (122)
The Insect Folk by Margaret Warner Morley (121)
Roget's Thesaurus of English Words and Phrases by Peter Mark Roget (121)
Devil Stories by Various (120)
The Ten Books on Architecture by Vitruvius Pollio (117)
Across Unknown South America by Arnold Henry Savage Landor (116)
Natural History of the Mammalia of India and Ceylon by Robert Armitage Sterndale (116)
Susan B. Anthony by Alma Lutz (115)
Little Journeys to the Homes of the Great - Volume 01 by Elbert Hubbard (115)
The Divine Comedy by Dante, Illustrated, Hell, Complete by Dante Alighieri (114)
Wilson's Tales of the Borders and of Scotland by Alexander Bethune (114)
Les Misérables by Victor Hugo (114)
Walden by Henry David Thoreau (113)
The Elements of Bacteriological Technique by J. W. H. Eyre (112)
The Stowmarket Mystery by Louis Tracy (111)
New Discoveries at Jamestown by John L. Cotter and J. Paul Hudson (110)
Beeton's Book of Needlework by Mrs. Beeton (108)
The Communist Manifesto by Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx (104)
Music Notation and Terminology by Karl Wilson Gehrkens (103)
The Marvelous Land Of Oz by L. Frank Baum (103)
The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (102)
Don Juan Tenorio by José Zorrilla (102)
A Book of Natural History (101)
The Bontoc Igorot by Albert Ernest Jenks (99)
An Introduction to the History of Western Europe by James Harvey Robinson (99)
Great Fortunes, and How They Were Made by James Dabney McCabe (99)
Lineage, Life and Labors of José Rizal, Philippine Patriot by Austin Craig (99)
Beyond Good and Evil by Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (98)
Why do we need a public library? by Various (97)

I like the last book

geez does that play into apple's hands.  Not that it's anything new, but when publicized along with the iPad, both only benefit.

Can't wait for release 2.  Looks like everyone at my office will get one.  Just don't want to be guinea pigs as Apples first releases tend to have some quirks and the second tend to be rock solid.

Posting from an iPad!! Haven't bought one yet, but playing at an Apple Store. This thing is pretty slick...

Ok, so I ended up buying one. Got a 64gb model, and am so far loving it. It is magnitudes faster than an iPhone in terms of app launch and scrolling, especially when it comes to web pages. Animated gifs are not at full speed, and the lack of Flash is still a problem.

The thing that I am most impressed with is the unique abilities of many of the apps already optimized for the iPad. I can sit on my couch without a plugged in laptop and simply browse, do email, look up movie times, or read a book- or watch an episode of a TV show in bed with my headphones.  Something like Epicurious is completely engaging, with multiple panes and windows for recipes, ingredients, nutrition- it's an app I never thought I would want and I have a feeling it will become indispensable in the future. The keyboard has taken some getting used to, but I have found myself a dozen uses for this thing so far and I've only had it for a day. I think the iPad will be different things to different people, and that's exactly what the market was missing. We will see many imitators of the iPad in the near future...

Quote from: tet on April 04, 2010, 03:09:00 PM
Ok, so I ended up buying one. Got a 64gb model, and am so far loving it. It is magnitudes faster than an iPhone I terms of app launch and scrolling, especially when it comes to web pages. A imaged gifs are not at full speed, and the lack of Flash is still a problem.

The thing that I am most impressed with is the unique abilities of many of the apps already optimized for the iPad. I can sit on my couch without a plugged in laptop and simply browse, do email, look up movie times, or read a book- or watch an episode of a TV show in bed with my headphones.  Something like Epicurious is completely engaging, with multiple panes and windows for recipes, ingredients, nutrition- it's an app I never thought I would want and I have a feeling it will become indispensable in the future. The keyboard has taken some getting used to, but I have found myself a dozen uses for this thing so far and I've only had it for a day. I think the iPad will be different things to different people, and that's exactly what the market was missing. We will see many imitators of the iPad in the near future...

Resistance is futile...you didn't stand a chance...once you hit the corner of the block, the Apple Store's gravitational pull sucked you in....It's like the Death Star!  Congrats, they are pretty sweet, and getting positive reviews across the board....

Well I had some strange typos above, whoops! Serves me right for typing on an iPad... :evil:

Jealous.

Good on you, tet. Keep us posted on your thoughts.

Nice!  I'm glad to hear more positives.  I was getting ready to jump on this thing, but I had to make the financial decision to wait.  I did the same with the phone and am at least satisfied that I did, knowing people with the previous model gawked at the speed of my new "S" phone.  If I had the money, I'd totally buy one now, but based on my experience and having some patience, maybe I'll be rewarded with a camera or other features in an iPad "S". 

Still, I am jealous.  Congrats on the pad tet, I wish I could have one now.

Will It Blend? - iPad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko&feature=player_embedded#ws)

Survey of early adopters
http://blogs.newsobserver.com/techjunkie/survey-reveals-who-bought-the-ipad (http://blogs.newsobserver.com/techjunkie/survey-reveals-who-bought-the-ipad)

No surprises. 2/3 own an iPhone, 3/4 own a Mac, 92% own an iPod. Apple fans showed up in force.

Primary use is mobile web surfing (74%): evidence that the iPad and Kindle may end up coexisting comfortably, all the "corporate gadget warz" talk notwithstanding...

Note that it was blended without the back cover on- otherwise this would be impossible to fit into that thing. Don't know if you saw the video of the kids attacking one with a baseball bat, but even that just put some dents in it. This thing feels pretty solid in my hands.

Having said that, I'm anxious to buy a case soon. It feels quite slippery overall, so I always hold it pretty tight when not over a soft surface. I'm hoping there will be some better ones soon because the Apple case doesn't appeal much to be. Besides the price, if it can't sit in the dock with that thing on but is not easy to remove, and also makes it harder to type as I've read online, I'm happy to wait until some more hit the market.

Typing, as to be expected on a tablet, isn't ideal, but it gets the job done. This is something that I can imagine many a future tablet maker struggling to do right, and I'm not sure if it's possible without a physical keyboard. Thankfully you can use the keyboard dock OR any Bluetooth keyboard, neither of which I have tried but both make this into a legit portable workstation. The whole OS is really fast, especially in comparison to my iPhone 3G, and with a few more updates on iWork and the ability to x-fer files to and from, I can definitely foresee leaving my MBPro at home. Both Safari and Mail are rock solid, and I can't argue with a slick touchscreen Google Maps either.

Btw, with some meticulous spellchecking, I've managed to write this on the iPad- but took me far longer than it should have.   

Badass Tet. Thanks for your comments. I am all about getting one of these.... wanna wait for G2 but not sure I will.

I'd be interested in getting one, too. I can easily imagine taking it (instead of a laptop) on trips where real computing isn't necessary.

...just not at the current price.  :|

Engadget linked to a study that pegs the component costs of the $500 model at under $300. There's padding in that margin to support a price cut. No guarantee it will happen, though, if demand stays strong. See "Wii, Nintendo."

It would be a rare move.

Although they did price drop the iphone, Apple rarely cuts prices on products until the new model is released.

That, and the price isn't all that expensive in absolute terms. I can wait for the g2 model for a price drop -- which is good, because I probably will have to.

An iPad would be cool to have on trips, though. Battery life is long enough for any flight I'd find myself on -- so I could read on the plane and then check email and websurf at the hotel.

I still think I'd prefer an e-ink reader for reading texts. But I'll probably stick with paper for that stuff, anyway. A glossy display would be fine for reading shorter stuff...

Considering it came in at much less than what people thought it would cost, I would almost guarantee the price will not drop.

I also don't think gen 2 will really be that much different, maybe a faster processor.

Quote from: mattstick on April 07, 2010, 11:39:28 AM

Considering it came in at much less than what people thought it would cost, I would almost guarantee the price will not drop.

I also don't think gen 2 will really be that much different, maybe a faster processor.

camera would be nice

Well my thinking is, if they wanted it to have a camera, it would have one now.

http://www.tuaw.com/2010/04/07/first-look-camera-for-ipad/ (http://www.tuaw.com/2010/04/07/first-look-camera-for-ipad/)

450k sold to  date (per Jobs @ the iPhone OS4 event.)

600k ebooks sold.

Ok posting from iPad. Not to shabby.  Maybe if I didn't spend so much on summer and golf shit I'd think about it.

Quote from: mattstick on April 07, 2010, 12:05:24 PM
Well my thinking is, if they wanted it to have a camera, it would have one now.

2.0 will.   1 for the money of rebuyers and 2 because you work the kinks out first, then add power and storage and make it a multimedia device.

Shame it will never have flash though.

Quote from: mattstick on April 07, 2010, 12:05:24 PM
Well my thinking is, if they wanted it to have a camera, it would have one now.

would you really wanna carry that around with you to take pictures.  bulky camera imo.

It's not a phone, so the camera would have to be on the opposite side as the iPhone/Touch thus, enabling iChat.

Leave iChat for the Mac line, iPad doesn't need a camera.

Quote from: mattstick on April 15, 2010, 09:11:55 AM
Leave iChat for the Mac line, iPad doesn't need a camera.

this

I think that Job's focus on the portable and casual end-user market will drive the addition of a front facing camera on the future ipad.

Yeah, you've got an iMac on the family desktop but the kids are using that so, you want to kick it on the sofa with your ipad and, hey, let's skype uncle bob... video ftw.

Quote from: rowjimmy on April 15, 2010, 11:26:55 AM
Yeah, you've got an iMac on the family desktop but the kids are using that so, you want to kick it on the sofa with your ipad and, hey, let's skype uncle bob... video ftw.

This is why it needs a camera. I'm not going to sit at a conference table and hold an iPad up to my face for a business teleconference. That's what the laptop is for. But for when your granddaughter takes her first steps and you have to share the breakthrough right away with the grandparents or distant family . . . what would be handier than flipping on an iPad?

Quote from: Alumni on April 15, 2010, 04:44:19 PM

Quote from: rowjimmy on April 15, 2010, 11:26:55 AM
Yeah, you've got an iMac on the family desktop but the kids are using that so, you want to kick it on the sofa with your ipad and, hey, let's skype uncle bob... video ftw.

This is why it needs a camera. I'm not going to sit at a conference table and hold an iPad up to my face for a business teleconference. That's what the laptop is for. But for when your granddaughter takes her first steps and you have to share the breakthrough right away with the grandparents or distant family . . . what would be handier than flipping on an iPad?

an iphone

Quote from: JustJezmund on April 15, 2010, 07:02:46 PM
an iphone

If you've got one, sure.

Some folks don't have an iphone, though. Crazy, but true.  :-P

Quote from: Alumni on April 15, 2010, 07:55:36 PM

Quote from: JustJezmund on April 15, 2010, 07:02:46 PM
an iphone

If you've got one, sure.

Some folks don't have an iphone, though. Crazy, but true.  :-P

sorry did mean to come off with the haterade.  i dont have an iphone either actually. (blackberry storm  :-P ) but if the ipad had a cam it would be the thing on it i would use the least.

Quote from: JustJezmund on April 15, 2010, 08:49:38 PM
sorry did mean to come off with the haterade.  i dont have an iphone either actually. (blackberry storm  :-P ) but if the ipad had a cam it would be the thing on it i would use the least.

No worries - I'm just having fun here. No offense meant, or taken.

finally picked up the keyboard dock for this thing, and it's pretty good.  hefty for sure, but it'll really help me work with this thing a lot quicker.  i didn't realize it had extra buttons for stuff, such as unlocking the screen, a home button, brightness, iPod controls with volume, Spotlight search, and even a button to bring up the on-screen keyboard.  an expensive add-on, but one I think i'll get a lot of good use out of when traveling...

ok i was full of hate before.  now my buddy got one and i fooled around with it like a prom date; now i love it.  and i hate that im broke now.

and also surprised that dan hasnt updated his Apple Armory in his sig to include his tablet :-P

 :smoke: :tte:

thanks for the prod. i thought i was out of characters for my sig, but had 17 remaining somehow

wow i spaced on the fact you bought the big daddy.   :-o

Indeed. Still half empty, but i needed to have the space because I am using this for work and I tend to to deal with large Pages and Word files on a regular basis. For this to replace my MBPro when out of the office, i need as much functionality from it as possible.

Quote from: tet on April 29, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Indeed. Still half empty, but i needed to have the space because I am using this for work and I tend to to deal with large Pages and Word files on a regular basis. For this to replace my MBPro when out of the office, i need as much functionality from it as possible.

i was really impressed with the word processing and such with it, works really well.

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/05/trim_your_sim_ftw.html (http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/05/trim_your_sim_ftw.html)
The $30 all-you-can-eat data plan from AT&T for the iPad 3G is pretty decent considering it's a data-only plan. But what if you're in another country or on another carrier? You'd think this would be easy, the iPad 3G being an unlocked GSM device, right? Not so fast. Apple isn't going to make it that easy for you to switch. Sure, it's unlocked, and it's GSM, but you're going to have to find yourself a MicroSIM from your carrier if you want to use it with your new iPad 3G. Frustrating, huh?

It's not as bad as it seems, though. A GSM MicroSIM is pin compatible with a standard SIM. All you have to do is trim away the excess material and you'll have yourself a DIY MicroSIM. Now you can use your $5.99 T-Mobile EDGE plan or hop on to Vodaphone if you're abroad.

International 3G data is insanely expensive, not a big surprise.  The DIY option looks nice.

so are you gunna have to get a whole new pad if you want this or do they just take your pad apart?

Quote from: JustJezmund on May 06, 2010, 10:26:59 AM
so are you gunna have to get a whole new pad if you want this or do they just take your pad apart?

Neither.

You just modify the sim.

Click the link for details.

Quote from: rowjimmy on May 06, 2010, 10:43:54 AM

Quote from: JustJezmund on May 06, 2010, 10:26:59 AM
so are you gunna have to get a whole new pad if you want this or do they just take your pad apart?

Neither.

You just modify the sim.

Click the link for details.

guess i should have read.  word.

4 days until Canada pre-order!

I may not get one until my birthday in June however.

(http://www.net-connect.nl/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ipad.jpg)

(http://whatthehell.eu/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/691404701.jpg)

New iPad Test - Will It Shred? (http://www.vimeo.com/11480457)

holy crap!!!! :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
i might have peed a little.

Damn.  I know I've been harshing on this thing, but literally minutes after getting my new MacBook Pro all set up and the way I want it...I say to my self...

"Do I really want to fly with this coast to coast as often as I do, hm....maybe I need an ipad now."

Played in the store and I want it too.  I'm jealous of the few people I know that have them.

3G or no 3G?  How much will I use it outside of the house?

Will it be a pain in the ass to buy the first day/week it's available in Canada?

What kind of cases are people using?

So many iPad questions.

Canada release date is 5/28 and I'm getting one, hopefully while I'm on my lunch hour at work, although I have a feeling I'll have to wait until the next week or longer...

Quote from: mattstick on May 20, 2010, 12:35:45 PM

3G or no 3G?  How much will I use it outside of the house?

the only deterrent for me (when i get one) is even talking it outside, and fears of dropping it.  that point alone i know would keep me from leaving my

own wi-fi. but i guess if you work inside thats a whole different story; guess it wouldnt be so bad to pull an ipad out of a briefcase or backpack.  But

then jobs have wi-fi dont they.   And one last point.  if i would get the 3g, i guess it would make me use it.  just because of the fact its gunna be

another data plan to pay for :frustrated:

I think I've pretty much decided not to get a 3G model.

Release date in Canada is Friday, I'm considering taking the day off work...

Well I finished everything I needed to do for the week, so I booked tomorrow off.

I must be crazy to fight the lines, but the store opens at 8 and I'm going to try and get there early, maybe 6:30 ish...

Roll out of bed > Apple Store

Quote from: mattstick on July 28, 2009, 02:16:03 PM

Seems a long way off, I'd be really surprised.

Yeah I was just re-reading the thread.

It's been less than a year so I suppose I should be surprised, but part of me thinks Apple saw this as a "let's push out a giant iPod Touch, call it a magic Tablet device, then get to work on something that's even better".

iPad2 is gonna be the jam.

And I just posted that because I thought it was amusing re: the timeframe...

Interesting to read our predictions. Some actually came true.

Yes, but as a cloud device it will continue to lack features that people want.

what about Dell's sure-to-be-craptacular Streak? is it a tablet or a phone?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/197135/psst_dells_streak_isnt_an_android_tablet.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/197135/psst_dells_streak_isnt_an_android_tablet.html)

Quote from: PIE-GUY on May 27, 2010, 04:18:23 PM
what about Dell's sure-to-be-craptacular Streak? is it a tablet or a phone?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/197135/psst_dells_streak_isnt_an_android_tablet.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/197135/psst_dells_streak_isnt_an_android_tablet.html)

It's a phone.
But the lines are destined to be blurred. A case could be made that the iPod Touch is a small tablet, too.

Update! 25 people in line, store opens at 8.

Sweet.

Enjoy.

I'm home with the iPad, doing the setup now!

Quote from: rowjimmy on May 28, 2010, 08:39:23 AM
Sweet.

Enjoy.

I'm supposed to pack and get ready for my trip to Ottawa for the marathon, but I'm just gonna chill with the iPad for a few hours =)

All of my Hard Drives & portable devices are named after Grateful Dead songs, any suggestions for naming my iPad?

Quote from: mattstick on May 28, 2010, 09:21:36 AM

All of my Hard Drives & portable devices are named after Grateful Dead songs, any suggestions for naming my iPad?

Classic TAB?

Quote from: mattstick on May 28, 2010, 09:21:36 AM

All of my Hard Drives & portable devices are named after Grateful Dead songs, any suggestions for naming my iPad?

depends on the size (64gb would be Bertha, obviously), but i'd go with T.O.O. (as in, not an iPhone) or Morning Dew (since you had to wait so early for it)

Stella.

day job?

Because of the nature of the product, I'm thinking Supplication

PS. I love this thing

Quote from: mattstick on May 31, 2010, 08:30:18 AM

Because of the nature of the product, I'm thinking Supplication

PS. I love this thing

nice...  and nice...

Favorite apps Tet?

Seems like the app market is rapidly expanding. 

Unfortunately the iBook Store is not on-line in Canada, so all we have are the Project Gutenberg books.

Nice bait-and-switch by AT&T on iPad 3g plans.  :roll:
http://gizmodo.com/5553418/att-just-killed-unlimited-wireless-data-and-screwed-everybody-in-the-process (http://gizmodo.com/5553418/att-just-killed-unlimited-wireless-data-and-screwed-everybody-in-the-process)

Apple . . . just divorce AT&T already, will ya?  :oops:

That plan change licks.

200mb of data... could I stay within that in a month?

One of the reasons I didn't bother with iPad 3G... data pricing is stupid.

Quote from: mattstick on June 02, 2010, 02:34:43 PM
One of the reasons I didn't bother with iPad 3G... data pricing is stupid.

But I'm looking at getting an iPhone...

Oh.

I have 500mb of data on my plan, I've only come close once and that was because I was streaming a ton of XM/Sirius radio & MLB.

Right on.
After talking with another friend, I think 200MB may not be enough...  :| Although it probably would be enough for my wife.

200MB is a lot of email/web pages.

But streaming audio is nice.

Quote from: mattstick on June 02, 2010, 03:31:47 PM

200MB is a lot of email/web pages.

But streaming audio is nice.

I kind of have an internet problem...

/have you seen my postcount?

We're all f***ed if you can start posting from the train.

Also, impulse iTunes Store purchases are just part of the luxury of owning an iPhone.

Quote from: mattstick on June 02, 2010, 03:35:36 PM

We're all f***ed if you can start posting from the train.

Also, impulse iTunes Store purchases are just part of the luxury of owning an iPhone.

Yep...

The iPad desperately needs an iOS4 update.

As if you needed another reason to buy an iPad - VLC has an iPad app, which allows you to load any video files onto the device and play them back in VLC.

Perfectly terrible timing, considering I've spent the last few months converting video files into m4v with the intention of playing them on the iPad.

Fishman's iPad Install (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TaVigs8Who#)

Fishman's iPad install...

Looks like an accident waiting to happen.  :-D

Still cool tho.

Poor man's iPad:

http://ipadpeek.com/?url=week4paug.net (http://ipadpeek.com/?url=week4paug.net)

I got a 32gb 3G a couple weeks ago.....posting from it now...thing is pretty dope,  I have hardly turned on my laptop since getting it.....my touch got ripped off so i snagged it....miss the ability to put the touch in my pocket, but the display on the ipad is rad....

QuoteApple's AT&T exclusivity has officially ended, at least as far as the iPad is concerned. Because at the end of this month, the tablet is coming to Verizon.

Verizon's iPad appears to be the same model as AT&T carries, which means that for 3G access you'll have to purchase a bundle with a Verizon MiFi mobile hotspot. Pricing seems competitive: an 16GB Wi-Fi iPad bundled with MiFi will cost $630, 32GB Wi-Fi iPad + MiFi will be $730, and 64GB Wi-Fi iPad plus MiFi will be $830. The MiFi data plan will apparently offer up to 1GB of data for $20/month, no contract required.

Wi-Fi only models will also be sold, and while pricing for those hasn't been announced yet it's hard to imagine that it'd be appreciably different from AT&T's offering. There's no mention in the release of if or when you can preorder, although you can "sign up for more information" here.

It's not all bad news for AT&T; Apple's incumbent carrier will begin selling the iPad in its own stores on October 28th as well. Although this does seems to lend even more credence to those early 2011 Verizon iPhone reports, which should make you as happy as it makes AT&T nervous.

QuoteVerizon Wireless Offers iPad at Stores Nationwide on October 28
BASKING RIDGE, N.J. & CUPERTINO, Calif.—(BUSINESS WIRE)— Verizon Wireless and Apple® today announced that iPad™ will be available at over 2,000 Verizon Wireless Stores nationwide beginning Thursday, October 28. Verizon Wireless will offer three bundles, all featuring an iPad Wi-Fi model and a Verizon MiFi 2200 Intelligent Mobile Hotspot, for a suggested retail price of $629.99 for iPad Wi-Fi 16GB + MiFi, $729.99 for iPad Wi-Fi 32GB + MiFi and $829.99 for iPad Wi-Fi 64GB + MiFi. Verizon Wireless is offering a monthly access plan to iPad customers of up to 1GB of data for just $20 a month. In addition, Verizon Wireless will also offer all three iPad Wi-Fi models on a stand-alone basis.
"This is the perfect pairing for holiday travels," said John Stratton, chief operating officer for Verizon Wireless. "iPad together with the nation's largest and most reliable 3G data network allows customers to easily connect on the go wherever they are."
"We're thrilled to be working with Verizon Wireless to get iPad into the hands of even more customers this holiday season," said Tim Cook, Apple's COO. "iPad allows users to connect with their apps and content in a more intimate, intuitive and fun way than ever before, and together with Verizon Wireless we're offering an easy way to stay connected wherever you go."
iPad allows users to browse the web, read and send email, enjoy and share photos, watch HD videos, listen to music, play games, read ebooks and much more, all using iPad's revolutionary Multi-Touch™ user interface. iPad Wi-Fi models are just 0.5 inches thick and weigh just 1.5 pounds-thinner and lighter than any laptop or netbook-and deliver up to 10 hours of battery life.*
Apple's App Store℠ offers iPad users access to the world's largest catalog of apps with over 280,000 apps and more than 30,000 iPad specific apps in 20 categories, including games, business, news, sports, health, reference and travel. With Apple's iBookstore℠, the best way to browse, buy and read books on a mobile device, iPad users have access to more than 100,000 books from major and independent publishers.
MiFi 2200 is small enough to fit in a pocket and allows customers to create a personal Wi-Fi cloud capable of sharing the high-speed Internet connectivity of the Verizon Wireless 3G Mobile Broadband network with up to five Wi-Fi-enabled devices. The MiFi 2200's rechargeable battery provides up to four hours of active use and 40 hours of standby time on a single charge.
Customers can sign up for more information on Apple's iPad together with Verizon Wireless' MiFi 2200 at www.verizonwireless.com/iPad (http://www.verizonwireless.com/iPad), at any Verizon Wireless Communications Store or by calling 1-800-2 JOIN IN.
*Battery life depends on device settings, usage and other factors. Actual results vary.

iphone isnt far behind

Just saw the ipad-verizon commercial!

A good friend of mine has been on tour with Roger Waters, last night was the last night of the US tour...check out what Roger gave to the whole crew-- so rad!

Slick.

Bump - the ipad just got a lot cooler... Check out Onlive Desktop! Your ipad is now a Windows 7 desktop. I ponied up the $5 per month to do it right. Full browser streams flash, can do google IM now, everything as if I was at a windows system, plus it's faster than hell. Videos stream faster using this than even the youtube app. brilliant!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/23/technology/personaltech/onlive-desktop-plus-puts-windows-7-on-the-ipad-in-blazing-speed-state-of-the-art.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/23/technology/personaltech/onlive-desktop-plus-puts-windows-7-on-the-ipad-in-blazing-speed-state-of-the-art.html)

http://desktop.onlive.com/ (http://desktop.onlive.com/)

Quote from: PIE-GUY on February 24, 2012, 11:38:15 AM
Bump - the ipad just got a lot cooler... Check out Onlive Desktop! Your ipad is now a Windows 7 desktop. I ponied up the $5 per month to do it right. Full browser streams flash, can do google IM now, everything as if I was at a windows system, plus it's faster than hell. Videos stream faster using this than even the youtube app. brilliant!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/23/technology/personaltech/onlive-desktop-plus-puts-windows-7-on-the-ipad-in-blazing-speed-state-of-the-art.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/23/technology/personaltech/onlive-desktop-plus-puts-windows-7-on-the-ipad-in-blazing-speed-state-of-the-art.html)

http://desktop.onlive.com/ (http://desktop.onlive.com/)

Ironic.

As a technology, looks pretty cool. I still don't have much use or love for Windows, though. And I predict that, soon enough, Flash will be all but gone from the web. All those iPad users are hard to ignore.

Quote from: V00D00BR3W on February 24, 2012, 12:00:06 PM
As a technology, looks pretty cool. I still don't have much use or love for Windows, though. And I predict that, soon enough, Flash will be all but gone from the web. All those iPad users are hard to ignore.

to me it's much more than just flash that this solves. The virtual machine you are connected to has a gigabit internet connection for both upload and download. It's insanely fast... and all it feeds to your ipad is video and sound.

Would it be cool if it was feeding you OSX instead of Windows 7? Of course. But that probably ain't gonna happen any time soon. At least it's feeding you a full OS with real Office applications and everything.

Office for iPad is coming soon apparently.

So, using this to stream netflix is actually faster and more reliable than the netflix app... ymmv.

iPad event kangfirmed on march 7th in San Francisco

(http://www.blogcdn.com//media/2012/02/ipad3invites228.jpg)

That's what she said...

Quote from: rowjimmy on February 28, 2012, 12:48:57 PM
(http://www.blogcdn.com//media/2012/02/ipad3invites228.jpg)

That's what she said...

I'm assuming this means retina display.

Also, dick jokes.

Quote from: V00D00BR3W on February 28, 2012, 01:11:19 PM

Quote from: rowjimmy on February 28, 2012, 12:48:57 PM
(http://www.blogcdn.com//media/2012/02/ipad3invites228.jpg)

That's what she said...

I'm assuming this means retina display.

Also, dick jokes.

if the big upgrade is just the retina display, I'm not impressed. I have no complaints with the ipad2 display. I would imagine they are also adding siri... and again, no biggie to me.

It's always safe to bet there will be more storage and a faster processor.

i'm gonna say better battery and LTE on top of everything else.  not that I want LTE and a 12 minute battery...  very happy with WiFi + 3G

Are you ready?

apple tv today, too.

following the live blog on my lunch break!

Remember when Apple actually webcast it?

That was so much better than this Live Blog stuff...

New Apple TV is $99

So 1080p is the only improvement to AppleTV?

More Ipads sold in Q4 than any other PC maker?  Wow......

Quote from: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 01:05:49 PM
following the live blog on my lunch break!

Yep.
I was right about appletv!

looks like ios 5.1 will be available to day too.

They're pwning the samsung galaxy......   :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

I was hoping for more from the new AppleTV

Quote
We are redefining the category that Apple created with the original iPad

On the new retina display:

Quote
This presents a problem for us in presenting it to you. For the first time an iPad has a higher resolution than this entire display behind you... That's a fun challenge

Retina display!

"This presents a problem for us in presenting it to you. For the first time an iPad has a higher​ resolution than this entire display behind you... That's a fun challenge."

It's 2048 x 1536, sure enough. That's 3.1 million pixels. "The most ever in a mobile device."

2048x1536 is ser biz.

greater than 1080p

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2012/03/apple-ipad-3-ipad-hd-liveblog-2946.jpg)

Boom!
A5X processor is confirmed, quad-core graphics!

http://www.tuaw.com/2012/03/01/retina-display-macs-ipads-and-hidpi-doing-the-math/

but wait, there's more...

5-megapixel backside illuminated sensor on the back, 5-element lens, IR filter, and ISP built into ​the A5X chip.

it's the 4s camera

Quote from: rowjimmy on March 07, 2012, 01:30:10 PM
it's the 4s camera

Yup.  Pretty sweet.  Although if I were to go get an Ipad, I don't personally see myself using the camera a ton.  That's to say that this isn't a feature that make me want to run out the door and buy one

New stabilization software for shooting video too. 

IPAD 3: Coming to a phish show near you   :frustrated:

I figured a 1080p ATV would arrive some day. Have had mine for only a couple months. But I'll say that (720p) movies streamed from a computer still look fine, as does Netflix. When you're talking about streaming over the internet, there are also bandwidth issues to consider.

Lots of new features I don't/won't use on an iPad...

Voice dictation and 4G LTE!!!!!

Verizon, Rogers, Bell, Telus and AT&T will be the LTE partners.

9.4mm thin, weighing 1.4lbs.

10 hours of battery life still! 9 hours on 4G!

I love reading things like this: "The new iPad is sporting 21Mbps HSPA+, but it's also rocking an LTE radio capable of pulling down 73Mbps on both Verizon and AT&T here in the US." (http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/07/the-new-ipad-is-official/) Well, if HSPA+ actually offered anything approaching 21 Mbps in any real-world scenario, there'd be little reason for LTE, wouldn't there? Basically, the numbers are good for nothing more than breathless rattling off.

Here on my HSPA+ capable iPhone 4S, I just got 1.33 Mbps down. In testing, I've never gotten anything higher than 4.46 Mbps. Usually somewhere in the 1-3 range is more common.

Quote from: V00D00BR3W on March 07, 2012, 02:12:25 PM
I love reading things like this: "The new iPad is sporting 21Mbps HSPA+, but it's also rocking an LTE radio capable of pulling down 73Mbps on both Verizon and AT&T here in the US." (http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/07/the-new-ipad-is-official/) Well, if HSPA+ actually offered anything approaching 21 Mbps in any real-world scenario, there'd be little reason for LTE, wouldn't there? Basically, the numbers are good for nothing more than breathless rattling off.

Here on my HSPA+ capable iPhone 4S, I just got 1.33 Mbps down. In testing, I've never gotten anything higher than 4.46 Mbps. Usually somewhere in the 1-3 range is more common.

There are plenty of reasons for offering LTE.
The core being that HSPA and LTE are not offered by the same providers.

ILife is on ipad now too with a "reinvented" iphoto.  Pretty cool stuff

Price of the ipad 2 dropped $100, which is nice. 

Quote from: rowjimmy on March 07, 2012, 02:15:51 PM

Quote from: V00D00BR3W on March 07, 2012, 02:12:25 PM
I love reading things like this: "The new iPad is sporting 21Mbps HSPA+, but it's also rocking an LTE radio capable of pulling down 73Mbps on both Verizon and AT&T here in the US." (http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/07/the-new-ipad-is-official/) Well, if HSPA+ actually offered anything approaching 21 Mbps in any real-world scenario, there'd be little reason for LTE, wouldn't there? Basically, the numbers are good for nothing more than breathless rattling off.

Here on my HSPA+ capable iPhone 4S, I just got 1.33 Mbps down. In testing, I've never gotten anything higher than 4.46 Mbps. Usually somewhere in the 1-3 range is more common.

There are plenty of reasons for offering LTE.
The core being that HSPA and LTE are not offered by the same providers.

Fair enough. (Although for most consumers, this is strictly a speed issue.) But it is funny seeing these theoretical download speeds being bandied about as evidence of how super sweet the technology is, when in the real world jumping to the newer technology still leaves you enjoying only a portion of the theoretical speed capability of the lesser one.

After reading up on the new ipad, I am convinced that Apple is running the greatest racket of all time.

So, what's this thing called, anyways?

"The New iPad"? "The iPad 3"? "The iPad without a name"?

Maybe they realized this will be such a mainstay offering that they'll want to refresh it from time to time, as with their other computers, so giving each iteration a new name would grow tiresome. Maybe this is model identifier iPad3,1.

the Apple care seemed like a no brainer when I bought my MB, but at $99.00 for an ipad, it doesn't seem worth it.
thoughts?

Quote from: slslbs on March 08, 2012, 03:35:58 PM
the Apple care seemed like a no brainer when I bought my MB, but at $99.00 for an ipad, it doesn't seem worth it.
thoughts?

probably not worth it, less moving parts and all that. definitely not worth it if you're on a yearly upgrade path.

but I plan on keeping this iPad for two years, so I bought it. what was once just a toy is now a huge part of school for me, since I take my notes on pages and use the kindle app for textbooks.

I got a squaretrade warranty on mine - covers damage, too, unlike applecare, and it's $89 for 2 years...

http://www.squaretrade.com/pages/ipad-landing?ccode=bs_war_vc_090:homepageipad (http://www.squaretrade.com/pages/ipad-landing?ccode=bs_war_vc_090:homepageipad)

Quote from: PIE-GUY on March 08, 2012, 09:48:17 PM
I got a squaretrade warranty on mine - covers damage, too, unlike applecare, and it's $89 for 2 years...

http://www.squaretrade.com/pages/ipad-landing?ccode=bs_war_vc_090:homepageipad (http://www.squaretrade.com/pages/ipad-landing?ccode=bs_war_vc_090:homepageipad)

I don't understand how they can cover all damages including water..
For only 90$ for 2 years, seems like one hell of a good deal!!!

Anybody want to buy an iPad1, 32gb, 3G?  No issues, works perfect..

Quote from: Caravan2001 on March 09, 2012, 10:51:52 AM
Anybody want to buy an iPad1, 32gb, 3G?  No issues, works perfect..

How much?

Quote from: antelope19 on March 09, 2012, 11:06:44 AM

Quote from: Caravan2001 on March 09, 2012, 10:51:52 AM
Anybody want to buy an iPad1, 32gb, 3G?  No issues, works perfect..

How much?

They're pretty much @ $300 on eBay right now.  I would hook someone on the paug (someone I know on the paug, not a random) for $250....Shit cost me $700...pm me if interested, not trying to derail this thread.....

http://gizmodo.com/5892655/one-ios-icon-is-larger-than-the-entire-original-macintosh-screen

QuoteOne iOS Icon Is Larger Than The Entire Original Macintosh Screen
Here are some numbers to blow your mind: The original Macintosh, released in 1984, had a monochrome 512 × 342 pixel display. That was 175,104 points. Today, the icons on iOS are 512 x 512 pixels, drawn from a 16.7 million color palette plus 256 levels of transparency.

28 years ago, a monochrome icon on the Mac was 16 x 16 pixels. It only took 32 bytes of memory. Compare to the 512 x 512 pixels of each iOS' icon. It takes four times the total video memory of the original Mac to represent a single icon in iOS at full size. Of course, iOS' icons are not shown on screen at that size. They are much smaller. Eventually, however, you can be sure that there will be displays that would require that insane pixel density.

What is remarkable is that the absolute size of the icons remains more or less the same. It's an amazing increase in the density of information required to represent the exact same object with the exact same meaning. Eye candy is expensive.

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17g8x3dar7ddhjpg/original.jpg)
(go to their site for more text and examples)

the new ipad is here!!!
64G

Quote from: slslbs on March 16, 2012, 12:49:26 PM
the new ipad is here!!!
64G

Nice.  Got a 32/4G here...about to crack it open!

Just got mine. 32GB/Wifi. Been holding out for third generation and I'm pretty damn pleased with this thing.

I must say, the image display is amazing

Quote from: slslbs on March 17, 2012, 09:28:24 AM
I must say, the image display is amazing

Yeah, the display is really what you notice first.  It's spectacular.  I am upgrading from a iPad 1 so I am really psyched with the whole thing.  Besides the display, not sure how much of a leap it is from the 2, but the colors on this thing are insane.

They must have sold a shit ton of these things, my UPS driver said every single truck in Portland had a box of 20-30 of these to deliver.

I'm not saying "I'm jealous" but if I were saying that it would be true.

This thing is pretty goddamn amazing. Emily fails to see the use. She's like "So it's just a big iPhone?" I guess you just have to use it a bit to realize that it is just another tool for consuming information as the fastest rate possible, in a very eye-popping and enjoyable way.

Decided to do the Squaretrade 2 year warranty. It just seems way too likely that someone is going to drop it and I doubt it can stand a drop like the iphone can. I've maintained hands-off with Lane (4 yrs old) thus far, but it can't last forever. I just had to purchase the Where's Waldo HD app. Couldn't help myself. But once he gets a crack at it it's gonna be nonstop clamoring.

Technology FTW.

Quote from: JPhishman on March 17, 2012, 01:44:09 PM
This thing is pretty goddamn amazing. Emily fails to see the use. She's like "So it's just a big iPhone?" I guess you just have to use it a bit to realize that it is just another tool for consuming information as the fastest rate possible, in a very eye-popping and enjoyable way.

Decided to do the Squaretrade 2 year warranty. It just seems way too likely that someone is going to drop it and I doubt it can stand a drop like the iphone can. I've maintained hands-off with Lane (4 yrs old) thus far, but it can't last forever. I just had to purchase the Where's Waldo HD app. Couldn't help myself. But once he gets a crack at it it's gonna be nonstop clamoring.

Technology FTW.

My brother got the ipad 1 the day it came out.  I thought it was pretty cool but didn't feel like I needed on.  I had a touch and a macbook pro.  Fastforward to my Touch getting stolen and I decided to buy an ipad 1.  ONce you dig in to it, it is indispensable.  My wife was the same way too when she first checked it out, now she is all about it.  My kids don't get any media (TV,Internet,video games) so keeping the pad away from them has been a snap so far.  Cross country flights are the only exception.

Back from the dead. This thing is great.  It's quickly changing from a bonus into a necessity. The screen is really as good as advertised. I'm loving it.

I got hands on with the new iPad this morning. It's nice, but I still don't see a reason to upgrade from ipad1 given what I do with mine.

Quote from: mattstick on March 19, 2012, 11:45:38 AM

I got hands on with the new iPad this morning. It's nice, but I still don't see a reason to upgrade from ipad1 given what I do with mine.

Having switched from a I, I would agree. It is really just a luxury. While it is a little faster and a little smaller, the difference is minimal.  The display is superior for sure and it has the camera, but I don't see myself ever using the camera except for FaceTime. The I does everything I need it to, but I am happy with the 3. I will say the dictation feature works great and is more accurate than Siri in my experience so far.

How's the wifi? 

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-ipad-love-it-hate-it-20120322,0,1408373.story?page=2&track=icymi (http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-ipad-love-it-hate-it-20120322,0,1408373.story?page=2&track=icymi)

Quote.   List of iPad gripes goes on and on - latimes.com

So you have one of the 3 million-plus new iPads sold over the last week. What's not to love about it? We've got a running list:
 
Say what, no Siri?

Most people thought that Siri on the new iPad was a gimme. Nope. Instead it has a scaled back version -- dictation. The feature is quite good, but you can't tell your iPad to look anything up or schedule appointments. Matt Peckham of Time's Techland surmised that Siri just wasn't ready for the iPad. Jason D. O'Grady at ZDNet, however, thinks it comes down to making sense of dollars, that Apple may be reserving it for the phone: "If you want Siri, buy an iPhone. Plain and simple."


Bigger to be better


The new iPad is a little heavier than the iPad 2, thanks to the better graphics processor and more powerful battery. About one-tenth of a pound heavier, according to the specs. That really doesn't sound like much, but it can start to matter if you hold your iPad in one hand for long periods or have any kind of repetitive stress injury. It also becomes more noticeable if you add a case to the equation.

The other aspect of weight has to do with the apps that are designed for Retina display. Sure, they look better, but fatter apps eat up more storage on the device. The Verge noted that these apps can be up to five times bigger. A dramatic example of an app getting fatter is Tweetbot, which grew from under 10 MB to 25 MB in its Retina-ready update.

And it's not just a problem for owners of the new iPad. Those of us legacy owners of the original and iPad 2 who have these apps get to feel the pain too, since updates aren't device specific.

 

Sizzler?


The hot-selling device can reach up to 116 degrees during intensive use, according to a test by the Consumer Reports. 

To boost power and longevity, mobile device batteries have to pack more energy into the same space. Apple says the new iPad's battery lasts 10 hours, which is about the same as the earlier models. But the new device has a far more sophisticated screen and graphics processor, both requiring more power to operate than the earlier models.

 

Drop it like it's hot

No, whatever you do, don't drop it.

Tests from warranty seller SquareTrade showed that the new iPad suffered greater damage than iPad 2 when dropped from waist and shoulder heights. From waist height, the damage to the third-gen iPad was fairly extensive. "Only a small portion of the screen survived," one of the testers said in the video. From shoulder height, the damage appears to extend beyond the screen, with severe cracking along the body of the iPad underneath the shattered glass. The whole screen was about to come off after the drop, the testers said.

 

Charge!

PCWorld tested 43 tablets and found that the third-gen iPad takes the longest -- almost six hours -- to fully recharge its battery. The magazine also found that it was super sluggish charging in a test of at least five consecutive hours of plugged-in use. "In that time, the battery gauge simply didn't budge."

Along the same lines,  DisplayMate found that 100% doesn't necessarily mean fully charged. "I measure the power actually drawn by the AC Adapter and found that the new iPad continues to charge for up to one hour after it claims to reach 100%," said Ray Soneira, president of DisplayMate Technologies. 

The problem there is that it can affect the iPad battery's run time, he said, if you unplug the device when the indicator hits 100%, thinking it's finished juicing up. 

 

Data drain

USA Today's Edward C. Baig writes that while you'll love the blistering speed of the 4G iPad, you won't love blowing through your monthly data allotment, or the cost of using data when Wi-Fi is unavailable. How fast? Baig busted his $30 2GB plan with Verizon in just 24 hours. And he was just downloading apps he already owned through Apple's iCloud.

 

Wiggy Wi-Fi

A number of customers have been complaining on the Apple Support page about weaker Wi-Fi connection, as Gizmodo pointed out. This has some wondering whether it's another Antennagate.

One discussion thread with about 250 replies so far features account after account of flagging reception on the new iPad. An example of the complaints, from Sully2003: "Will not hold WIFI for more than a few minutes. Two MacBooks and iPhone working fine from same router. Ready to return iPad!!!!!"

Another owner, HeathClif, writes, "I am SO disappointed with the iPad 3....the wifi is driving me nuts.  My wheel keeps spinning waiting for pages to connect while lying on my bed.  I have VERY high speed.  I went and got my iPad 2 to compare - and sure enough, the connections are just whizzing on old faithful.   What is UP? "   

Yeah, first day I got it, I noticed how hot it got.  The iPad 1 that I had didn't even get the slightest bit warm even after like 4 hours of constant use on an airplane.  Once I turned down the brightness on the 3 to a more manageable level, the heat drastically reduced, but you can still feel it.  It seems to charge fairly quickly, but loses charge faster than the 1.  Not too bad, but noticeable.  I don;t notice the weight at all (seems comparable to the 1) and the wifi has worked great so far.  Not a single hitch and I use it all day at my office.  But the heat thing does blow.  Putting brightness to 75% made it way better though.  Still tripping on how sharp the display is.  New York Times is amazing on it.

Quote from: Caravan2001 on March 24, 2012, 11:18:21 AM
Yeah, first day I got it, I noticed how hot it got.  The iPad 1 that I had didn't even get the slightest bit warm even after like 4 hours of constant use on an airplane.  Once I turned down the brightness on the 3 to a more manageable level, the heat drastically reduced, but you can still feel it.  It seems to charge fairly quickly, but loses charge faster than the 1.  Not too bad, but noticeable.  I don;t notice the weight at all (seems comparable to the 1) and the wifi has worked great so far.  Not a single hitch and I use it all day at my office.  But the heat thing does blow.  Putting brightness to 75% made it way better though.  Still tripping on how sharp the display is.  New York Times is amazing on it.

I don't think I ever put the brightness on my 2 higher than 75%. Hurts my eyes!

so - my ibooks aren't synching from ipad to iphone. photostream and apps synch.
went to the Apple store after work - stumped the Genius, he put in an email to itunes store central.
anyone else deal with this?

Huh....mine are not popping up on my phone either....will try to sync by hardwire...

that's not the point, though - supposed to go automatically

well yeah.... :-P

got it working.
I think ibooks sync collections wasn't on for me

I have to start studying for my professional exams and I was looking to take notes with my iPad. Does anyone have a good app for taking notes, preferably in outline form? Typing, not writing. My handwriting is atrocious.

Initial post from my new iPad 32gb wifi.
Loving every screen of it.

:-D

Kinda interesting:


The energy required to charge an iPad
http://www.tuaw.com/2012/06/22/the-energy-required-to-charge-an-ipad/

updated to the new iOS... opened the new maps to check it out and it had my recent searches from google maps in there. Kinda weird.

Teh Googles: They're watching your every move

(http://www.blogcdn.com//media/2012/10/littlemore.jpg)
10/23 Announcement.
Widely speculated to be the iPad mini (along with possible Retina Display 13" mpb & more.)

There was some speculation about a Mac Mini update, as well as iMac ipdates too.

I guess the price point is the big thing about the iPad Mini, but I have no use for one.

who had a use for the ipad until it came out and sold a zillion units?

Quote from: slslbs on October 16, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
who had a use for the ipad until it came out and sold a zillion units?

Yep.

Figure a lower price point will be appealing to a lot of consumers, too.

Agree that the original iPad had no market to fill - but people found a role for it.

I think the iPad mini will be great for commuters and students, but I read magazines and watch TV on my iPad, the bigger screen is better suited to it's role in my life.

when I was in europe in June, lots of people were using ipads as a camera. for some, the smaller size may be more convenient as a hybrid device. If I was going to carry around one at work, like lots of people do, a smaller device may be advantageous, depending upon the keyboard.

I couldn't imagine using my iPad as a camera.

I think it makes perfect sense. Other manufacturers were able to come in and compete on price with the iPad by offering a smaller device. That concept being validated, now Apple can offer their own lower-price item to pick up those consumers who just aren't willing to spend what a full-size iPad costs.

What time does this shit start today? 12 EST?

I see that they're streaming it to Apple devices.

Quote from: mattstick on October 23, 2012, 10:24:03 AM

What time does this shit start today? 12 EST?

I see that they're streaming it to Apple devices.

10p/1e

http://www.apple.com/apple-events/october-2012/

Is it def iPad mini today?

Pretty much a given, I'm hoping for something new and mind blowing too.

I heard that Apple was going to call it the "iPod Maxi", but because of the obvious connection to feminine products, they went with "iPad Mini"...

Terry

http://youtu.be/iJtS8201qNc

Suddenly you tubes embedded into paug threads won't play on my iPad. What gives?

Works on mine

Quote from: slslbs on November 24, 2012, 06:59:14 AM
Works on mine

Updated to the newest version of iTunes today, totally hate it. It is conflating my iPod and iPad libraries which I keep separate, and can't access 95% of my iPod library.

Going to be a long day figuring this out  :-( Love iTunes, but I don't know why they reinvent the fucking wheel with each new version.

It took me a while to sort out where everything was, but I think the re-design makes sense.

I hope by the time they roll out iTunes 12 they rebrand it and figure out a way to separate the music player from the iOS device manager.

I've been ignoring the update cue on my Mac. Is this the update you're talking about?

I did notice I had trouble finding certain albums on my phone (under the artist tab)about a month ago. Took me a while to figure out and it still isn't quite right. For instance, A Hard Days Night comes out as unknown album. This is an improvement over not showing up at all under the Beatles

Quote from: slslbs on December 11, 2012, 04:46:34 PM
I've been ignoring the update cue on my Mac. Is this the update you're talking about?

Yes.

Took some research and a tutorial which I haven't needed to do since I bought my first iPod eons ago, but I am more comfortable with this now. Toggling between libraries on a Windows Vista machine was never easy to do, and seems harder now, but I do appreciate the change in font, and I re-established to the best extent possible the look of older versions. I can see getting used to how they have albums sorted if I can ever come up with artwork for everything. I have never found anything better to manage music than iTunes, and really dislike when they mess with that portion of the software. When it becomes a chore, screws everything up downstream.

now that you've had some time with this, is it worth the update or should I continue to skip it?

Got my wife an ipad mini for xmas.  I know they are coming out with a new one in March, but this thing is sweet!

If you do update iTunes, the first thing you might want to do is un-hide the sidebar, the by-default absence of which really jarred me at first.

My biggest complaint with new iTunes is the new search function which is totally useless now, and the removal of the "stats" at the bottom of the pane.

Quote from: slslbs on December 25, 2012, 03:24:23 PM
now that you've had some time with this, is it worth the update or should I continue to skip it?

I would hold off, I am really not seeing the benefit yet  :|

I just got an iPad 4 for Christmas. Not sure if it's been covered in this thread yet, but I'm looking to broadcast flacs from my WD MyLiveDuo hard drive. I d/l the Wd2go app to link to my hard drive. Now I'm looking for a vlc player app to play flacs. Has anyone done this? What vlc player would you recommend?

Quote
Apple this morning announced a 128 GB version of the fourth generation iPad – twice the storage of the highest capacity previous version. The new high-capacity iPad goes on sale February 5, in both black and white. The device will be priced at $799 for WiFi only, or $929 for a version that includes both WiFi and cellular network access.

Quote from: thelot on December 27, 2012, 07:07:39 PM
I just got an iPad 4 for Christmas. Not sure if it's been covered in this thread yet, but I'm looking to broadcast flacs from my WD MyLiveDuo hard drive. I d/l the Wd2go app to link to my hard drive. Now I'm looking for a vlc player app to play flacs. Has anyone done this? What vlc player would you recommend?

It's too bad the actual VLC app disappeared from the App Store.  I still have it, but it's too bad.

Quote from: mattstick on January 29, 2013, 09:29:13 AM

Quote from: thelot on December 27, 2012, 07:07:39 PM
I just got an iPad 4 for Christmas. Not sure if it's been covered in this thread yet, but I'm looking to broadcast flacs from my WD MyLiveDuo hard drive. I d/l the Wd2go app to link to my hard drive. Now I'm looking for a vlc player app to play flacs. Has anyone done this? What vlc player would you recommend?

It's too bad the actual VLC app disappeared from the App Store.  I still have it, but it's too bad.

App Store too huh.  This seems to be on VLC's end, as the app isn't available to customers in Canada and the USA for Android either. 

So the VLC app used to be available in the App Store? 

Yes.  I have it on my iPhone and iPad still.

Also handy for playing back ripped FLV webcasts etc.

Is there an iOS app that can be used at sites that require Adobe Flash player?

Skyfire, but I've never tried it.

https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/skyfire-web-browser-your-path/id384941497?mt=8

thanks - I'll let you know

I've used skyfire.  It will analyze a page for video. If there is flash video that the iPad won't play, it basically uses their server to play it and feed it to you in a streaming format. You can watch the video but you cannot slide a slider back and forth to ff or rewind like you can with any other video format. It's annoying, so I very rarely use it.

thanks
in that case, maybe I won't try it

Is anyone having problems connecting to the iTunes store this AM? Can't connect at all through the computer, and on the iPad can get into the store but can't search  :|  :?

anyone know when the ipad mini 2 is coming out?
want to get one for the wife.
a quick look at the internetz says maybe the end of this month??
does that sound right? i do want to get one now and have a new one come out a couple of weeks later.

thanks.

Quote from: mbw on September 06, 2013, 08:52:00 PM
anyone know when the ipad mini 2 is coming out?
want to get one for the wife.
a quick look at the internetz says maybe the end of this month??
does that sound right? i do want to get one now and have a new one come out a couple of weeks later.

thanks.

I don't know, but I imagine if its gonna arrive this fall we will know on 9/12 when they do their next big event thing.

I'm just now reading through these last few pages. So does the VLC app allow you to play FLAC files on your phone?

Quote from: PG on September 06, 2013, 10:07:41 PM

Quote from: mbw on September 06, 2013, 08:52:00 PM
anyone know when the ipad mini 2 is coming out?
want to get one for the wife.
a quick look at the internetz says maybe the end of this month??
does that sound right? i do want to get one now and have a new one come out a couple of weeks later.

thanks.

I don't know, but I imagine if its gonna arrive this fall we will know on 9/12 when they do their next big event thing.

9/10, actually.

completely forgot this event was today

I think they've made a bit of a branding error with all these iPads now, iPad 2, iPad Mini, iPad Mini Retina and iPad Air. Seriously?

Quote from: mattstick on October 22, 2013, 04:31:15 PM
I think they've made a bit of a branding error with all these iPads now, iPad 2, iPad Mini, iPad Mini Retina and iPad Air. Seriously?

Agreed.
I would be more inclined to get a new mini today rather than an air.

My wife's gonna be pissed.... I just ordered an iPad air.

Loving this iPad air.  So light. Retna display so clear. So much faster at literally everything.

I totally want one.

Quote from: mattstick on November 04, 2013, 03:28:41 PM

I totally want one.

The best part is I'm getting $200 from Amazon for my old ipad 2.

The only crappy thing is I'm stuck with this old 2006 Macbook Pro for a while longer. My plan was to get a new Mac Mini if they updated them at this last go-round. They did not... so new ipad and wait on the new mac for the office.

Bought an Air 32 yesterday....for my Mother-in-law.

So my wife and I are planning to join the revolution for christmukkah or whatever you call our thing. Anyhow, I'm wondering if any of y'all have any recommendations on a case/cover.  Both our nearly 5yo son and 2yo daughter will likely be using it a bunch as well, so we are leaning more toward protection versus lightweight nonbulkiness. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Price is not really a factor...

Quote from: pcr3 on November 25, 2013, 10:19:20 PM
So my wife and I are planning to join the revolution for christmukkah or whatever you call our thing. Anyhow, I'm wondering if any of y'all have any recommendations on a case/cover.  Both our nearly 5yo son and 2yo daughter will likely be using it a bunch as well, so we are leaning more toward protection versus lightweight nonbulkiness. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Price is not really a factor...

Go with the smart case.

Quote from: PG on November 25, 2013, 11:30:37 PM

Quote from: pcr3 on November 25, 2013, 10:19:20 PM
So my wife and I are planning to join the revolution for christmukkah or whatever you call our thing. Anyhow, I'm wondering if any of y'all have any recommendations on a case/cover.  Both our nearly 5yo son and 2yo daughter will likely be using it a bunch as well, so we are leaning more toward protection versus lightweight nonbulkiness. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Price is not really a factor...

Go with the smart case.

Thanks Pie.  Anyone else?

I have a Zagg case and keyboard. It has a hard shell and seems to protect the ipad fairly well.

First post from my new iPad Air.

Quote from: rowjimmy on April 17, 2014, 09:35:31 PM
First post from my new iPad Air.

Congrats, hope you got a good deal.

Quote from: gainesvillegreen on April 17, 2014, 10:32:49 PM

Quote from: rowjimmy on April 17, 2014, 09:35:31 PM
First post from my new iPad Air.

Congrats, hope you got a good deal.

Firm sent me to training last week.

Free iPad Air 16gb wifi came with it.

I'd say that's a good deal.

should have held out for the 32 GB

:wink:

Quote from: slslbs on April 17, 2014, 11:23:04 PM
should have held out for the 32 GB

:wink:

Something something gift horse something

Quote from: rowjimmy on April 18, 2014, 07:14:10 AM

Quote from: slslbs on April 17, 2014, 11:23:04 PM
should have held out for the 32 GB

:wink:

Something something gift horse something

Can you tell a big difference from your older model in terms of speed and weight?  I always figured I'd upgrade at some point. 

Quote from: antelope19 on April 18, 2014, 08:20:04 AM

Quote from: rowjimmy on April 18, 2014, 07:14:10 AM

Quote from: slslbs on April 17, 2014, 11:23:04 PM
should have held out for the 32 GB

:wink:

Something something gift horse something

Can you tell a big difference from your older model in terms of speed and weight?  I always figured I'd upgrade at some point.

This is my first ipad and it's way faster and lighter then my last.

Wait.

But seriously, I've never owned one, only used other folks' from time to time so, while part of me thinks that it knows the thing is lighter, rational brain knows that I can't really tell the difference without a head-to-head check.

Quote from: rowjimmy on April 18, 2014, 08:29:28 AM

Quote from: antelope19 on April 18, 2014, 08:20:04 AM

Quote from: rowjimmy on April 18, 2014, 07:14:10 AM

Quote from: slslbs on April 17, 2014, 11:23:04 PM
should have held out for the 32 GB

:wink:

Something something gift horse something

Can you tell a big difference from your older model in terms of speed and weight?  I always figured I'd upgrade at some point.

This is my first ipad and it's way faster and lighter then my last.

Wait.

But seriously, I've never owned one, only used other folks' from time to time so, while part of me thinks that it knows the thing is lighter, rational brain knows that I can't really tell the difference without a head-to-head check.

Got ya.  For some reason I thought you've had one all along.  Anyway, hope you enjoy. 

Quote from: antelope19 on April 18, 2014, 08:20:04 AM

Quote from: rowjimmy on April 18, 2014, 07:14:10 AM

Quote from: slslbs on April 17, 2014, 11:23:04 PM
should have held out for the 32 GB

:wink:

Something something gift horse something

Can you tell a big difference from your older model in terms of speed and weight?  I always figured I'd upgrade at some point.

I'd wait.  I have an ipad2 and an iPad Air from work (32gb).  It's nice that it's lighter and the display is better but they haven't improved the device substantially.

Quote from: rowjimmy on April 17, 2014, 11:14:09 PM

Quote from: gainesvillegreen on April 17, 2014, 10:32:49 PM

Quote from: rowjimmy on April 17, 2014, 09:35:31 PM
First post from my new iPad Air.

Congrats, hope you got a good deal.

Firm sent me to training last week.

Free iPad Air 16gb wifi came with it.

I'd say that's a good deal.

Ha, yeah, well, I'd say that qualifies.

Antelope, I am with Matt, I am holding out as well. I've messed around with some Air's which my fellow nurses have brought to work, and I am not all that blown away. They are lighter, but my "New" iPad Retina's weight has never really bogged me down.

I have a feeling I'll be buying mini 2's with retina for my daughters before I get a new one of my own.

Oops...


http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-leaks-the-new-ipad-air-2-and-ipad-mini-3/ (http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-leaks-the-new-ipad-air-2-and-ipad-mini-3/)

Anyone out there still using an iPad 2? If so, what version of iOS do you have on it? I've been hesitant to upgrade past 7.x for a couple years now, on account of not wanting to cripple the thing, but I'm now finding that a lot of the apps I want to use these days require 8 or even 9. Reports out there indicate poor performance by those versions on this model. I'd be interested to hear of any first-hand experiences.

Quote from: VDB on August 08, 2016, 01:27:32 AM
Anyone out there still using an iPad 2? If so, what version of iOS do you have on it? I've been hesitant to upgrade past 7.x for a couple years now, on account of not wanting to cripple the thing, but I'm now finding that a lot of the apps I want to use these days require 8 or even 9. Reports out there indicate poor performance by those versions on this model. I'd be interested to hear of any first-hand experiences.

Running the latest 9 on mine, which is really just my daughter's iPad at this point - it works fine for Youtube and her toddler games/apps, really no problem with almost anything I throw at it.  If I were using it as my daily, I'm sure I'd have a problem with it being laggy, but I don't really notice much, though in fairness, I have nearly all notifications and other features turned OFF!

Same here. Running 9 and I use it the thing everyday. It is slower than it used to be, but nothing crazy.

Good to know, thanks gents.

Same as the iPhone thread, I work on these all the time. If yall need repairs, advice or anything else. I can help troubleshoot and hook you up if you need repairs. Just PM me if you need!