Does this guy merit his own thread? If he turns into as formidable an opponent as many are predicting/fearing (depending on your orientation), perhaps.
At any rate, here's a good article by Paul Krugman that seeks to dismantle the logic behind Rick Perry's jobs-based campaign positioning.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/the-texas-unmiracle.html?_r=1&emc=eta1 (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/the-texas-unmiracle.html?_r=1&emc=eta1)
QuoteAs expected, Rick Perry, the governor of Texas, has announced that he is running for president. And we already know what his campaign will be about: faith in miracles.
Some of these miracles will involve things that you're liable to read in the Bible. But if he wins the Republican nomination, his campaign will probably center on a more secular theme: the alleged economic miracle in Texas, which, it's often asserted, sailed through the Great Recession almost unscathed thanks to conservative economic policies. And Mr. Perry will claim that he can restore prosperity to America by applying the same policies at a national level.
So what you need to know is that the Texas miracle is a myth, and more broadly that Texan experience offers no useful lessons on how to restore national full employment.
It's true that Texas entered recession a bit later than the rest of America, mainly because the state's still energy-heavy economy was buoyed by high oil prices through the first half of 2008. Also, Texas was spared the worst of the housing crisis, partly because it turns out to have surprisingly strict regulation of mortgage lending.
Despite all that, however, from mid-2008 onward unemployment soared in Texas, just as it did almost everywhere else.
In June 2011, the Texas unemployment rate was 8.2 percent. That was less than unemployment in collapsed-bubble states like California and Florida, but it was slightly higher than the unemployment rate in New York, and significantly higher than the rate in Massachusetts. By the way, one in four Texans lacks health insurance, the highest proportion in the nation, thanks largely to the state's small-government approach. Meanwhile, Massachusetts has near-universal coverage thanks to health reform very similar to the "job-killing" Affordable Care Act.
So where does the notion of a Texas miracle come from? Mainly from widespread misunderstanding of the economic effects of population growth.
For this much is true about Texas: It has, for many decades, had much faster population growth than the rest of America — about twice as fast since 1990. Several factors underlie this rapid population growth: a high birth rate, immigration from Mexico, and inward migration of Americans from other states, who are attracted to Texas by its warm weather and low cost of living, low housing costs in particular.
And just to be clear, there's nothing wrong with a low cost of living. In particular, there's a good case to be made that zoning policies in many states unnecessarily restrict the supply of housing, and that this is one area where Texas does in fact do something right.
But what does population growth have to do with job growth? Well, the high rate of population growth translates into above-average job growth through a couple of channels. Many of the people moving to Texas — retirees in search of warm winters, middle-class Mexicans in search of a safer life — bring purchasing power that leads to greater local employment. At the same time, the rapid growth in the Texas work force keeps wages low — almost 10 percent of Texan workers earn the minimum wage or less, well above the national average — and these low wages give corporations an incentive to move production to the Lone Star State.
So Texas tends, in good years and bad, to have higher job growth than the rest of America. But it needs lots of new jobs just to keep up with its rising population — and as those unemployment comparisons show, recent employment growth has fallen well short of what's needed.
If this picture doesn't look very much like the glowing portrait Texas boosters like to paint, there's a reason: the glowing portrait is false.
Still, does Texas job growth point the way to faster job growth in the nation as a whole? No.
What Texas shows is that a state offering cheap labor and, less important, weak regulation can attract jobs from other states. I believe that the appropriate response to this insight is "Well, duh." The point is that arguing from this experience that depressing wages and dismantling regulation in America as a whole would create more jobs — which is, whatever Mr. Perry may say, what Perrynomics amounts to in practice — involves a fallacy of composition: every state can't lure jobs away from every other state.
In fact, at a national level lower wages would almost certainly lead to fewer jobs — because they would leave working Americans even less able to cope with the overhang of debt left behind by the housing bubble, an overhang that is at the heart of our economic problem.
So when Mr. Perry presents himself as the candidate who knows how to create jobs, don't believe him. His prescriptions for job creation would work about as well in practice as his prayer-based attempt to end Texas's crippling drought.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on August 16, 2011, 09:12:07 AM
Does this guy merit his own thread?
As the paug's resident Texan, I'm gonna go ahead and say "no."
Quote from: PIE-GUY on August 16, 2011, 11:53:47 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on August 16, 2011, 09:12:07 AM
Does this guy merit his own thread?
As the paug's resident Texan, I'm gonna go ahead and say "no."
I agree. But I think his hair merits it's own thread. Have you seen that head of hair!? Mitt's finally got a serious opponent.
Four more wars! Four more wars!
Quote from: kellerb on August 16, 2011, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on August 16, 2011, 11:53:47 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on August 16, 2011, 09:12:07 AM
Does this guy merit his own thread?
As the paug's resident Texan, I'm gonna go ahead and say "no."
I agree. But I think his hair merits it's own thread. Have you seen that head of hair!? Mitt's finally got a serious opponent.
HA! Only if Trump had time to make it a 3 way race!
Also, here's a good article on how he "balanced" the budget
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/rick-perrys-budget-sleight-of-hand/2011/08/15/gIQAuiGCHJ_blog.html
Put the secessionist in charge. That should be good for the country.
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 16, 2011, 06:05:12 PM
Put the secessionist in charge. That should be good for the country.
That means we can secede, right?
yes we can
'Paug Nation
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 16, 2011, 06:05:12 PM
Put the secessionist in charge. That should be good for the country.
Could play well here in South Carolina.
I don't see how he doesn't win the nomination: he'll win or finish close in Iowa, stay close to Romney in NH, win SC and Florida and at that point it's over. Unless Palin gets in and shakes things up (which would totally be worth it for the entertainment value), I think he's the nominee and, unless the economy turns around, the next president. Then he'll use to power of the office to compel the country to pray for the economy to turn around and lo, thou shall be saved.
For whatever it's worth, here's one writer's reasonably compelling treatise on why Perry won't win (the nomination or the general):
http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/08/why-rick-perry-wont-win#disqus_thread (http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/08/why-rick-perry-wont-win#disqus_thread)
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on August 16, 2011, 08:53:28 PM
For whatever it's worth, here's one writer's reasonably compelling treatise on why Perry won't win (the nomination or the general):
http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/08/why-rick-perry-wont-win#disqus_thread (http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/08/why-rick-perry-wont-win#disqus_thread)
I agree with everything in that article and still I think Perry will win the nomination. It's definitely a compelling case for Romney, but I don't believe GOP primary voters will be able to get past that pesky Mormonism. And if Bachmann or Palin makes a serious run I'll eat my own children. That makes Perry the nominee by default.
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 16, 2011, 10:10:08 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on August 16, 2011, 08:53:28 PM
For whatever it's worth, here's one writer's reasonably compelling treatise on why Perry won't win (the nomination or the general):
http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/08/why-rick-perry-wont-win#disqus_thread (http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/08/why-rick-perry-wont-win#disqus_thread)
I agree with everything in that article and still I think Perry will win the nomination. It's definitely a compelling case for Romney, but I don't believe GOP primary voters will be able to get past that pesky Mormonism. And if Bachmann or Palin makes a serious run I'll eat my own children. That makes Perry the nominee by default.
Be careful with what you say. We hold people accountable for their posts here at the paug. :samurai:
(except when we don't) :wink:ETA: From the comments section of that article (which are quite amusing actually)
QuoteNothing is stopping liberals from voluntarily paying more in taxes each year or deciding to forego any eligible IRS tax deductions. If you think people should pay more step up to the plate and voluntarily pay 10% more in taxes come April. Raising taxes for government redistribution of wealth during these economic times would cause the wealthy and the job-creators to spend less money on goods and services. The result would be the United States (and the world) plunging into a depression. To be fair, tax cuts on the wealthy may, for example, permit someone to build an extra $25 million yacht (for example). But imagine how many jobs are created with the design, building and selling of the yacht? That transaction creates jobs. Taking the $25 million and giving it to some administrative agency does not create anything.
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/rick-perry-climate-change-is-a-hoax-drummed-up-by-scientists-looking-to-make-money.php?ref=fpa
Quote from: mattstick on August 17, 2011, 12:45:25 PM
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/rick-perry-climate-change-is-a-hoax-drummed-up-by-scientists-looking-to-make-money.php?ref=fpa
Quote"I do believe the issue of global warming has been politicized."
And who better to say so than the guy who likes to pepper his stump speeches with anti-climate-change rants... :roll:
Bush v. Perry
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/08/17/moore.perry.bush/index.html?hpt=hp_c1 (http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/08/17/moore.perry.bush/index.html?hpt=hp_c1)
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Former GOP Treasury official calls Perry an 'idiot'
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/19/idiot-jab-lobbed-at-perry/
Quote'Idiot' jab lobbed at Perry
By: CNN Producer Gabriella Schwarz
(CNN) - Former Treasury official Bruce Bartlett labeled newly-minted Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry "an idiot" Friday.
Bartlett, who served at Treasury under former President George H.W. Bush and as a domestic policy adviser to the late President Ronald Reagan, delivered the choice words to the Texas Gov. in reference to his recent comments about Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke.
"Rick Perry's an idiot, and I don't think anyone would disagree with that," Bartlett said Friday on CNN's "American Morning."
Perry sparked controversy when he said Bernanke would be "treasonous" if he printed more money to stimulate the economy before the 2012 election.
"I mean, printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost treacherous, or treasonous, in my opinion," Perry said Monday in Iowa. He stood by his comments Tuesday.
Bartlett said the politics at the Federal Reserve are a serious problem and in part blamed U.S. presidents, who he said have historically not focused their energies on the bank.
"He [Obama] has had open seats on the fed almost his entire presidency and I think that this sends a signal that he just doesn't care very much about what the fed does," Bartlett said.
Despite serving in Republican administrations, Bartlett is no stranger to GOP criticism, particularly of former President George W. Bush.
Bartlett's 2006 book "Imposter: How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy" accused the administration of departing from conservative economic principles. More recently he attributed the economic recession to the former president and Republican Party.
Team Perry did not immediately respond for a request for comment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F0RQLFybtw
"Bank of America. We'll help you out."
Stating the obvious, but hilarious nonetheless. Still, it could backfire: remember the prevailing "I'd like to have a beer with him" sentiment that propelled W to victory over Kerry?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/05/rick-perry-college-transcript_n_919357.html
Quote
Rick Perry's College Transcript: A Lot Of Cs And Ds
WASHINGTON -- As governor of Texas, Rick Perry has pursued a controversial agenda that would gut Texas' vaunted public university system in favor of something that more closely resembles a business.
As the Washington Post reported on Thursday, professors have been ranked according to how profitable they were to the university. Previous reports suggested Perry wanted to treat students as "customers" and tie teacher bonuses to anonymous student evaluations.
One reason that might explain his hostility toward the system: He didn't do very well in it. A source in Texas passed The Huffington Post Perry's transcripts from his years at Texas A&M University. The future politician did not distinguish himself much in the classroom. While he later became a student leader, he had to get out of academic probation to do so. He rarely earned anything above a C in his courses -- earning a C in U.S. History, a D in Shakespeare, and a D in the principles of economics. Perry got a C in gym.
Perry also did poorly on classes within his animal science major. In fall semester 1970, he received a D in veterinary anatomy, a F in a second course on organic chemistry and a C in animal breeding. He did get an A in world military systems and "Improv. of Learning" -- his only two As while at A&M.
"A&M wasn't exactly Harvard on the Brazos River," recalled a Perry classmate in an interview with The Huffington Post. "This was not the brightest guy around. We always kind of laughed. He was always kind of a joke."
A spokesperson for the governor recently told the Texas Tribune that the university "helped shape who he is today." The governor's office did not return a request for comment from The Huffington Post.
You can read Perry's transcript below:
Rick Perry's Texas A&M Transcript (http://www.scribd.com/doc/61684192/Rick-Perry-s-Texas-A-M-Transcript)
C in gym, LOL.
Quote from: Hicks on August 22, 2011, 03:39:46 PM
C in gym, LOL.
a C in U.S. History,.... a D in the principles of economics.
even funnier.
Dude was a cheerleader...
Just like W.
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 22, 2011, 03:59:46 PM
Dude was a cheerleader...
Just like W.
Yeah, but he was a cheerleader at A&M where that's a big deal... Of course I'm somehow more impressed with W's C average at Yale than Perry's C average at A&M.
Quote from: PIE-GUY on August 22, 2011, 07:42:03 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 22, 2011, 03:59:46 PM
Dude was a cheerleader...
Just like W.
Yeah, but he was a cheerleader at A&M where that's a big deal... Of course I'm somehow more impressed with W's C average at Yale than Perry's C average at A&M.
You live in Austin, so you're biased. But you're right.
Quote from: PIE-GUY on August 22, 2011, 07:42:03 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 22, 2011, 03:59:46 PM
Dude was a cheerleader...
Just like W.
Yeah, but he was a cheerleader at A&M where that's a big deal... Of course I'm somehow more impressed with W's C average at Yale than Perry's C average at A&M.
I'm not suggesting anything other than the fact that the dudes were cheerleaders.
Have you hung out with cheerleaders?
They're all bitches, man,
(could've also worked in the political vids/images thread)
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/WashingtonPost/Content/Blogs/ezra-klein/StandingArt/social%20security%20venn%201%20replace.jpg?uuid=BymJ8tKKEeCf1aXdOD-gyw)
That's pretty funny, although I do take issue with the fact they used "printing money" as the prime defense of SS. Ditto with the Treasury bond comment.
Great job, Dick.
http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/texas-cut-fire-department-funding-by-75-percent-this-year/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/texas-cut-fire-department-funding-by-75-percent-this-year/)
I was actually just reading this at work today. Quite funny:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/08/26/5-crazy-quotes-from-rick-perry/
He is somehow more hypocritical than the people he's running against, it's insane. How no one who has ever supported him sees this is beyond me...people in this country are so great at saying one thing and doing the total opposite.
BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/317293_10150785212905394_145914455393_20588083_2060504822_n.jpg?dl=1)
Conservative in his politics, and his beej techniques. go figure.
I caught some big chunks of the debate last night. Rick Perry is just plain unimpressive. He makes W. look like The Great Communicator. You know it's bad when you can't even land meaningful blows against Mitt Romney, whose hypocrisy is out there just begging to be assaulted.
My prediction remains that the Perry luster will wear off eventually, as people get to know him better.
I think that Huntsman looked like just about the most reasonable guy on the stage last night. I still say Romney puts on a good debate performance, but we all know that deep down, he's a bit of a joke.
I was thinking this yesterday as I watched, I have absolutely zero concern for seeing who gets picked. Not that I'm dismissing the Republican side, just I don't need to spend a year seeing who rises to the nomination...once they pick, and all the mud has dried and caked and fallen and the facts all checked, then you can stack that person up against Obama. But I don't really care that in this poll vs BO, x would do this, but if y wins, then it looks like this, etc. or discussing who "won" last nights debate. They keep throwing the same lies, that have already been fact checked and proven false out there to an oblivious applauding crowd, all the while further putting down the current president and deepening the divide.
Can't help but think that if 2008 was polarized, and this is where we're at right now, the 2012 election is going to be some seriously nasty politics.
Agreed that we're likely headed for an unpleasant general election. No doubt politics in general will only continue to get worse before they get better (if they ever do).
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on September 23, 2011, 05:01:09 PM
Agreed that we're likely headed for an unpleasant general election. No doubt politics in general will only continue to get worse before they get better (if they ever do).
Rick Perry has the edge on getting the Republican nomination solely because he's in the best position to actively execute people during the campaign. It's proven results right there. "IF OBAMA HAD HIS CHOICE, YOU'D BE PAYING FOR THESE CRIMINALS' HEALTH CARE!"
Also, incredible hair.
Quote from: kellerb on September 23, 2011, 05:54:39 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on September 23, 2011, 05:01:09 PM
Agreed that we're likely headed for an unpleasant general election. No doubt politics in general will only continue to get worse before they get better (if they ever do).
Rick Perry has the edge on getting the Republican nomination solely because he's in the best position to actively execute people during the campaign. It's proven results right there. "IF OBAMA HAD HIS CHOICE, YOU'D BE PAYING FOR THESE CRIMINALS' HEALTH CARE!"
Also, incredible hair.
Also cowboy boots and he shoots animals on his morning jog.
Quote from: PIE-GUY on September 23, 2011, 06:03:50 PM
Quote from: kellerb on September 23, 2011, 05:54:39 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on September 23, 2011, 05:01:09 PM
Agreed that we're likely headed for an unpleasant general election. No doubt politics in general will only continue to get worse before they get better (if they ever do).
Rick Perry has the edge on getting the Republican nomination solely because he's in the best position to actively execute people during the campaign. It's proven results right there. "IF OBAMA HAD HIS CHOICE, YOU'D BE PAYING FOR THESE CRIMINALS' HEALTH CARE!"
Also, incredible hair.
Also cowboy boots and he shoots animals on his morning jog.
That'll cut down on DC's stray cat population. LESS GOV'T HANDOUTS of saucers of milk
Quote from: kellerb on September 23, 2011, 05:54:39 PM
Rick Perry has the edge on getting the Republican nomination solely because he's in the best position to actively execute innocent people during the campaign. It's proven results right there. "IF OBAMA HAD HIS CHOICE, YOU'D BE PAYING FOR THESE CRIMINALS' HEALTH CARE!"
Now that I think about it, you're right. This man is untouchable.
This ad was in the Austin Chronicle this week...
for a million dollars, I'll jerk off to pictures of his hair
Quote from: kellerb on September 24, 2011, 07:39:22 PM
for a million dollars, I'll jerk off to pictures of his hair
quoted for posterity. :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Rick Perry: The Best Little Whore In Texas
The Texas governor has one driving passion: selling off government to the highest bidder
By Matt Taibbi
(it's way too long to copy/paste in here, but it's a great read)
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rick-perry-the-best-little-whore-in-texas-20111026 (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rick-perry-the-best-little-whore-in-texas-20111026)
Quote from: ytowndan on October 29, 2011, 01:00:30 AM
Rick Perry: The Best Little Whore In Texas
The Texas governor has one driving passion: selling off government to the highest bidder
By Matt Taibbi
(it's way too long to copy/paste in here, but it's a great read)
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rick-perry-the-best-little-whore-in-texas-20111026 (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rick-perry-the-best-little-whore-in-texas-20111026)
Good read, thanks. I thought about emailing this to a friend of mine, a staunch conservative (albeit not religious) who is also, by his upbringing, reflexively gaga for anything Texas, but he would probably just come back with some lazy crack at Obama or hippies. This is a guy who is now coming around to criticizing W. Bush (now that he's safely out of office and not accountable) but only in the context of arguing how much worse Obama is.
I guess my point here is, think of how many people could read an article like this about a politician they'd already decided they're inclined to like, and just not give a fuck.
Quote from: ytowndan on October 29, 2011, 01:00:30 AM
Rick Perry: The Best Little Whore In Texas
The Texas governor has one driving passion: selling off government to the highest bidder
By Matt Taibbi
(it's way too long to copy/paste in here, but it's a great read)
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rick-perry-the-best-little-whore-in-texas-20111026 (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rick-perry-the-best-little-whore-in-texas-20111026)
Taibi is one of my favorite authors, he is incredibly accurate, and his stuff is always fun to read. I'm not done reading this article, but what I have read is typical Taibi. The title alone is ballsy as fuck, and I love that fact that he went for it. People need to know what a backwards fuck this cat is.
The question on my mind is who does better against Obama in the general election.
The more I think about it the more it seems it doesn't even matter who the Republicans pick, because basically it comes down to how many people out there who would vote against Obama regardless of who he is running against. In order for Obama to win their numbers have to be small and I'm not sure that's the case.
That's the kind of Taibbi I enjoy: fact based, investigative reporting (rather than speculative, unsubstantiated hearsay) and laced with classic Taibbisms. Some of my favorites below.
I think he missed the point on the Tea Party, though, in that if they are really willing to support a guy like that they are not the principled movement they claim to be but just a rebranded sect of the GOP. So on the plus side, if he does go on to win the nomination, I think they lose whatever credibility they had.
I agree with Hicks, though, that it doesn't really matter whether it's Perry or Romney because in the end this election will be a referendum on Obama. And with unemployment around 9%, there are going to be a lot of people taking the "throw the bums out" approach.
Quote
In 1998, Perry was elected lieutenant governor alongside George W. Bush, serving with the kind of distinction that made his boss look like Winston Churchill.
Quote
In fact, his entire career is a profound testament to our nagging collective inability, or perhaps unwillingness, to distinguish between what a politician says and what he actually does.
And of course,
Quote
Then he waves and walks offstage. The whole thing has taken barely 10 minutes.
I can't believe it, and neither can the assembled crowd of Georgia conservatives, who hesitate before breaking into polite applause. I feel like a high school cheerleader who just had her leg jizzed on in the back of a convertible.
Quote from: aphineday on October 30, 2011, 02:43:00 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on October 29, 2011, 01:00:30 AM
Rick Perry: The Best Little Whore In Texas
The Texas governor has one driving passion: selling off government to the highest bidder
By Matt Taibbi
(it's way too long to copy/paste in here, but it's a great read)
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rick-perry-the-best-little-whore-in-texas-20111026 (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rick-perry-the-best-little-whore-in-texas-20111026)
Taibi is one of my favorite authors, he is incredibly accurate, and his stuff is always fun to read. I'm not done reading this article, but what I have read is typical Taibi. The title alone is ballsy as fuck, and I love that fact that he went for it. People need to know what a backwards fuck this cat is.
Yeah, I just finished Griftopia. Def a Taibbi convert.
Quote from: Hicks on October 30, 2011, 08:32:31 PM
The question on my mind is who does better against Obama in the general election.
The more I think about it the more it seems it doesn't even matter who the Republicans pick, because basically it comes down to how many people out there who would vote against Obama regardless of who he is running against. In order for Obama to win their numbers have to be small and I'm not sure that's the case.
So you don't believe he'll be re-elected? I don't see anyone on the GOP side that would be a legitimate candidate other than Romney. Anyone else, and Obama wins another 4 years (which he deserves in my opinion).
I see this thread and I read the subject as above...
Quote from: goodabouthood on October 31, 2011, 11:07:29 AM
Quote from: aphineday on October 30, 2011, 02:43:00 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on October 29, 2011, 01:00:30 AM
Rick Perry: The Best Little Whore In Texas
The Texas governor has one driving passion: selling off government to the highest bidder
By Matt Taibbi
(it's way too long to copy/paste in here, but it's a great read)
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rick-perry-the-best-little-whore-in-texas-20111026 (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rick-perry-the-best-little-whore-in-texas-20111026)
Taibi is one of my favorite authors, he is incredibly accurate, and his stuff is always fun to read. I'm not done reading this article, but what I have read is typical Taibi. The title alone is ballsy as fuck, and I love that fact that he went for it. People need to know what a backwards fuck this cat is.
Yeah, I just finished Griftopia. Def a Taibbi convert.
Quote from: Hicks on October 30, 2011, 08:32:31 PM
The question on my mind is who does better against Obama in the general election.
The more I think about it the more it seems it doesn't even matter who the Republicans pick, because basically it comes down to how many people out there who would vote against Obama regardless of who he is running against. In order for Obama to win their numbers have to be small and I'm not sure that's the case.
So you don't believe he'll be re-elected? I don't see anyone on the GOP side that would be a legitimate candidate other than Romney. Anyone else, and Obama wins another 4 years (which he deserves in my opinion).
No I'm not saying I don't believe he will win, I am just saying that whether or not he is re-elected hinges upon how big of a chunk of the electorate will vote against him no matter what.
How big that faction is I really don't know, but it seems like there may be enough of them to sway the election toward whomever ends up being the Republican nominee.
Anything is possible. Never overestimate the American voter.
He's gone from scary to creepy
http://youtu.be/XxjJ9QMjHzo
I think he took too many xanax....
During a seemingly innocuous question about how a Republican president should work with Democrats, Perry somehow stumbled into the regulatory climate and the 3 federal agencies he would eliminate. The 3 agencies are (strap in, kids):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6an4zSj8LhU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
What a complete fucktard. I'm Canadian and I bet I'd be able to bury his ass on any American civics exam, let alone any other subject. What I can't believe is that the presidency is ripe for the taking and yet the Republicans are only capable of fielding a jelly malleable flip flopper or a bunch of clowns from the looney tune freak show. It boggles my mind. If I was a Republican, I'd be furious at this farce. Then again, none of these people would actually "run" the country if they found themselves in charge. Enter from stage right, "the shadow cabinet". :banana:
Quote from: Superfreakie on November 09, 2011, 11:36:40 PM
What a complete fucktard. I'm Canadian and I bet I'd be able to bury his ass on any American civics exam, let alone any other subject. What I can't believe is that the presidency is ripe for the taking and yet the Republicans are only capable of fielding a jelly malleable flip flopper or a bunch of clowns from the looney tune freak show. It boggles my mind. If I was a Republican, I'd be furious at this farce. Then again, none of these people would actually "run" the country if they found themselves in charge. Enter from stage right, "the shadow cabinet". :banana:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Terry
Quote from: Superfreakie on November 09, 2011, 11:36:40 PM
What a complete fucktard. I'm Canadian and I bet I'd be able to bury his ass on any American civics exam, let alone any other subject. What I can't believe is that the presidency is ripe for the taking and yet the Republicans are only capable of fielding a jelly malleable flip flopper or a bunch of clowns from the looney tune freak show. It boggles my mind. If I was a Republican, I'd be furious at this farce. Then again, none of these people would actually "run" the country if they found themselves in charge. Enter from stage right, "the shadow cabinet". :banana:
It is both baffling and entirely understandable at the same time.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 31, 2011, 01:45:38 PM
Never overestimate the American voter.
"Oops."
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Thats a world class group of shit heads they've assembled.
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on November 10, 2011, 12:53:18 PM
Thats a world class group of shit heads they've assembled.
Just curious, who from the Republican party is not a shit head in your estimation?
Quote from: runawayjimbo on November 10, 2011, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on November 10, 2011, 12:53:18 PM
Thats a world class group of shit heads they've assembled.
Just curious, who from the Republican party is not a shit head in your estimation?
Abraham Lincoln.
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on November 10, 2011, 02:00:25 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on November 10, 2011, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on November 10, 2011, 12:53:18 PM
Thats a world class group of shit heads they've assembled.
Just curious, who from the Republican party is not a shit head in your estimation?
Abraham Lincoln.
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
What, no love for T Roosevelt? Hardly a neocon
props to the asshat for laughing at himself
top 10 rick perry excuses by..... rick perry
http://www.cbs.com/late_night/late_show/video/?pid=MfZg72aqRlmjrNCFiDTNs2Gi5Fyhf70Z&vs=Default&play=true
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-10-2011/indecision-2012---mercy-rule-edition?xrs=share_fb
effing hilarious
Saw that Daily Show last night. Awesome.
Quote from: mehead on November 11, 2011, 05:26:06 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on November 11, 2011, 05:20:47 PM
Saw that Daily Show last night. Awesome.
Watched it - glad they ended with this... hit the nail on the head
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-10-2011/penn-state-riots (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-10-2011/penn-state-riots)
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 11, 2011, 05:57:49 PM
Quote from: mehead on November 11, 2011, 05:26:06 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on November 11, 2011, 05:20:47 PM
Saw that Daily Show last night. Awesome.
Watched it - glad they ended with this... hit the nail on the head
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-10-2011/penn-state-riots (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-10-2011/penn-state-riots)
agreed. very poignant.
I know his time is over, but he just keeps bringing the funny.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/11/rick-perry-nancy-pelosi-debate-congress-/1
Quote
Rick Perry challenges Nancy Pelosi to a debate
Texas Gov. Rick Perry is so committed to his plan to cut the pay of Congress and get lawmakers out of Washington part-time that he's reportedly challenged House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi to a debate.
The Hill reports that the GOP presidential hopeful wrote a letter to Pelosi, suggesting they face off Monday about his Uproot and Overhaul Washington plan.
"I think it would be a tremendous service to the American public to see a public airing of those differences. Let the people decide," Perry wrote, according to the letter obtained by The Hill.
He continued with a bit of a dig:
"Should you choose not to respond or engage in such a healthy discussion, I will take it to mean you will continue your obstructionist ways in the face of much needed Washington reform," he concluded.
Perry unveiled his plan this week to change Washington, featuring among other things a proposal to transform the third branch of the federal government into a part-time Congress and cut the pay of lawmakers in half.
He also proposes ending lifetime appointments for future federal judges, including members of the Supreme Court, and an overhaul of government regulations.
House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md. -- the No. 2 Democratic leader -- questioned whether Perry was truly serious about his proposal and charged the candidate with "pandering to the Tea Party."
Perry says if Pelosi isn't available when he's in Washington on Monday, he'd be happy to schedule some other time -- perhaps in Iowa over the course of the next month. The Iowa caucuses are Jan. 3.
Updated 1:12 p.m. ET
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi mocked Texas Gov. Rick Perry as she turned down his request for a debate on his plan for a part-time Congress.
The California Democrat tweeted:
Re: Gov. Perry--Monday I'll be in Portland. Later visiting labs in CA. That's 2. I can't remember the 3rd thing.
She also said basically the same thing at a news conference.
For those who haven't been paying attention, Pelosi is taking a jab at Perry's now famous stumble at a GOP presidential debate in which he blanked out on the name of the third federal agency he'd like to cut.
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 17, 2011, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 10, 2011, 08:18:01 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 31, 2011, 11:15:57 AM
I see this thread and I read the subject as above...
I don't mean to copy RJ, but he's on point.
What a fucking clown. The whole GOP race is a fucking joke.
Quote from: Undermind on November 10, 2011, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on November 10, 2011, 02:07:13 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on November 10, 2011, 02:00:25 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on November 10, 2011, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on November 10, 2011, 12:53:18 PM
Thats a world class group of shit heads they've assembled.
Just curious, who from the Republican party is not a shit head in your estimation?
Abraham Lincoln.
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Too funny! :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
I can't help but wonder why Perry thinks appearing in more debates is somehow exactly what his campaign needs.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on November 17, 2011, 03:22:47 PM
I can't help but wonder why Perry thinks appearing in more debates is somehow exactly what his campaign needs.
I think he should hire Norm Macdonald to stand in for him at all future debates.
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/FlyinHellFish666/NormMacDonaldgianthat.jpg)
(http://bp1.blogger.com/_sucmbOmAVzk/R8-cT6FNyUI/AAAAAAAAAdo/frJHQtwn6QM/s320/normasburt.jpg)
Apparently he thinks the legal voting age is 21....and that election day is November 12th....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnJDboqAwnI
http://youtu.be/0PAJNntoRgA (http://youtu.be/0PAJNntoRgA)
Much has been made of Perry's jacket in this anti-gay ad, but in fairness, I don't think it's the exact same item... just humorously similar...
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/09/article-2071979-03A982630000044D-788_468x309.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbrI3F7p6-o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbrI3F7p6-o)
I reported that Perry video as a form of hate speech.
Atheists are people too.
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 09, 2011, 01:40:45 PM
I reported that Perry video as a form of hate speech.
Same here.
Apparently that ad is quickly climbing the list of most disliked Youtube videos ever...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/08/rick-perry-rebecca-black-youtube-dislikes_n_1138000.html?ref=technology (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/08/rick-perry-rebecca-black-youtube-dislikes_n_1138000.html?ref=technology)
QuoteRick Perry's 'Strong' Ad Surpasses Rebecca Black's 'Friday' With More Dislikes On YouTube
Rick Perry's controversial anti-gay ad, titled "Strong," has officially upset people.
The reaction has actually been so negative that the posting of the ad on YouTube has just achieved the record for the most dislikes on a single video. The clip surpassed Rebecca Black's now infamous "Friday" music video to claim the top spot as YouTube's most hated video.
Currently, Perry's video has approximately 300,000 "dislikes," while Black's has a little over 253,000. However, at this point, while over 10 million people have viewed "Friday," only about 750,000 have viewed Perry's ad, meaning a stagering 40 percent of viewers have not only disapproved of the spot, but openly expressed their dislike online.
Needless to say, the Perry campaign isn't happy. Their previous ad "Faith" is also posted on YouTube, doesn't prominently display the "Likes" versus "Dislikes" count, and still has over 25,000 "dislikes."
The video itself has been so controversial, that Perry's own staff is divided over it. Sources close to the Perry campaign have told the Huffington Post that even top officials in the campaign were uncomfortable with the language of the ad. Nonetheless, it began running in Iowa on Wednesday.
The Perry campaign's newest ad, "Repeal," which touts Perry's promise to "repeal Obamacare," doesn't give YouTube viewers the option of to Like, Dislike or even post comments below the video, as pointed out by the Perry Presidential blog, maintained by the Houston Chronicle and Hearst Newspapers.
UPDATE (CORRECTION): As has been pointed out, Justin Bieber's "Baby" is clearly the most disliked YouTube video ever, with over 2 million dislikes. The wrong comparison was made between Black and Perry's videos because the original "Friday" (which was briefly the most disliked video) was taken down and reposted as a new video.
I just checked, and it's actually at just under 500,000 dislikes now.
I'd try to pour salt on him, but secret service would probably tackle me first.
Quote from: kellerb on December 09, 2011, 09:43:23 PM
I'd try to pour salt on him, but secret service would probably tackle me first.
shhhhh.....they're watching....
Rick Perry likens homosexuality to alcoholism (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/12/perry-reportedly-compares-homosexuality-to-alcoholism-at-san-francisco-event/?intcmp=trending).
QuotePerry was asked by the event's moderator if he considered homosexuality to be a disorder. Perry responded, "Whether or not you feel compelled to follow a particular lifestyle or not, you have the ability to decide not to do that. I may have the genetic coding that I'm inclined to be an alcoholic, but I have the desire not to do that, and I look at the homosexual issue the same way."
So you see -- even if you're born gay, you can just choose not to be gay! You can fight that genetic disorder and live a responsible, sober, penis-vagina-sex life, just like the rest of us!
This article, by the way, also contains some classic Fox Newsiness.
QuoteTexas Gov. Rick Perry reportedly caused a stir Wednesday evening by comparing homosexuality to alcoholism at an event in San Francisco.
"Reportedly." Nice hedge there. If this had been one of FN's usual targets, it would have been more blunt and accusatory: "Nancy Pelosi caused a stir by saying she will kill all your fetuses."
Quote[T]he Texas Republican Party's approval of platform language allowing Texans to to seek voluntary counseling to "cure" being gay.
In going out of their way to emphasize that we're just talking about "voluntary" counseling here -- personal liberty! freedom! -- FN predictably misses the point. No one was accusing the Texas GOP of wanting to mandate "pray away the gay" sessions for homosexuals. We were accusing the Texas GOP of being hateful, backward, ignorant douches for embracing this ludicrous concept in the first place.
unreal
:shakehead:
My hope is that the Texas GOP keeps getting crazier so Wendy Davis has a real shot of winning.
Also, just wanted to quote this for posterity. :evil:
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 16, 2011, 08:50:19 PM
I don't see how he doesn't win the nomination
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on June 12, 2014, 12:45:37 PM
Also, just wanted to quote this for posterity. :evil:
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 16, 2011, 08:50:19 PM
I don't see how he doesn't win the nomination
To be fair, that was *before* he opened his mouth. Once that happened, he was wholly disqualified.
QuoteGov. Rick Perry admitted he fumbled the ball when he recently compared homosexuality to alcoholism.
"I stepped right in it," the Texas Republican said Thursday at an event sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor, which also aired on C-SPAN.
The potential presidential candidate, who was unsuccessful in his 2012 White House bid, didn't necessarily distance himself from the comments or apologize, but said he'd rather be talking about other issues.
...
"A lot of these issues need to be decided at the state level."
...
"I think the social issues should be decided state-by-state rather than being something in Washington, D.C. to try to make one-size-fits-all."
So Perry doesn't want to be asked about this anymore because he thinks it's an issue for the states.
Well guess what numbnuts... you are the governor... of a state.
(via (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/06/20/texas-governor-i-stepped-in-it/?hpt=hp_t2))