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Title: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Undermind on March 06, 2012, 06:37:49 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7653897/sources-indianapolis-colts-part-peyton-manning-wednesday

Where do you think he'll end up?  I'm thinking the Jets.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: mistercharlie on March 06, 2012, 07:10:13 PM
Well, it was a fun 14 years while it lasted. (I guess this last year wasn't so fun, so 13 fun years)
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: rowjimmy on March 06, 2012, 07:23:31 PM
Dan Snyder is gassing up the jet and warming up his checkbook...

(this is not an endorsement of the idea of Manning coming to the 'Skins)
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: DoW on March 06, 2012, 07:56:42 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 06, 2012, 07:23:31 PM
Dan Snyder is gassing up the jet and warming up his checkbook...

(this is not an endorsement of the idea of Manning coming to the 'Skins)
I bet rex ryan is eating a snack
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Undermind on March 06, 2012, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: bvaz on March 06, 2012, 07:56:42 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 06, 2012, 07:23:31 PM
Dan Snyder is gassing up the jet and warming up his checkbook...

(this is not an endorsement of the idea of Manning coming to the 'Skins)
I bet rex ryan is eating a snack
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: VDB on March 06, 2012, 09:55:32 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 06, 2012, 07:23:31 PM
Dan Snyder is gassing up the jet and warming up his checkbook...

(this is not an endorsement of the idea of Manning coming to the 'Skins)

Manning haters would root for this scenario so Snyder can ruin Manning just like everything else he touches.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: nab on March 06, 2012, 11:46:46 PM
Why do I get the sneaking suspicion that the Vikes might be rubbing their hands in contemplation right about now.


Never thought I'd have to root for Favre either..
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: tet on March 06, 2012, 11:51:47 PM
both Mannings will play in the Meadowlands in 2012.

and the better one (with 2 Superbowl rings) will continue to be better.

kangfirmed.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: aphineday on March 07, 2012, 12:31:51 AM
There is about zero doubt in my mind that he'll be a Miami Dolphin barring some unforseen craziness.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: zimbra on March 07, 2012, 01:37:49 AM
Personally I'd like the Vikings but I am putting my money on that he will be in New York. 
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Lifeboy on March 07, 2012, 04:08:45 AM
Quote from: zimbra on March 07, 2012, 01:37:49 AM
Personally I'd like the Vikings but I am putting my money on that he will be in New York.

really?

I know a few people have said that's a possibility, but I have to agree with the majority of the nfl analysts that Sanchez is their QB, and they will stick with him. Although he took a step back this past year, they're not going to just drop him and go with someone who is limited in the number of years he has left.

They will stick with Sanchez. IMO, it's silly to think otherwise. They have invested too much in him and I (along with every other analyst) believe they still have faith in Sanchez.



That said, anything is possible in this league.



Quote from: tet on March 06, 2012, 11:51:47 PM
and the better one (with 2 Superbowl rings) will continue to be better.

lulz
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Undermind on March 07, 2012, 05:09:49 AM
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 07, 2012, 04:08:45 AM
Quote from: zimbra on March 07, 2012, 01:37:49 AM
Personally I'd like the Vikings but I am putting my money on that he will be in New York.

really?

I know a few people have said that's a possibility, but I have to agree with the majority of the nfl analysts that Sanchez is their QB, and they will stick with him. Although he took a step back this past year, they're not going to just drop him and go with someone who is limited in the number of years he has left.

They will stick with Sanchez. IMO, it's silly to think otherwise. They have invested too much in him and I (along with every other analyst) believe they still have faith in Sanchez.



That said, anything is possible in this league.



Quote from: tet on March 06, 2012, 11:51:47 PM
and the better one (with 2 Superbowl rings) will continue to be better.

lulz

I for one would be ecstatic if they stick with Sanchez! (cause he blows!)
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Lifeboy on March 07, 2012, 05:36:42 AM
I agree, but it wouldn't be crazy to say he could easily become a decent QB in the near future.


Decent



As for Manning, it's either going to be Arizona or Miami. I'm praying he doesn't end up in DC
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Lifeboy on March 07, 2012, 07:15:52 AM
lol, I'm watching Mike and Mike and they just now gave a pretty in-depth reasoning as to how there's no chance in hell Manning will end up in New York.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Undermind on March 07, 2012, 07:39:14 AM
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 07, 2012, 07:15:52 AM
lol, I'm watching Mike and Mike and they just now gave a pretty in-depth reasoning as to how there's no chance in hell Manning will end up in New York.
So he'll probably end up in New York then right?  :evil:
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 11:58:45 AM
Colts presser is in a few minutes.

Manning will be a Redskin in 2012. Mark it.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Igbo on March 07, 2012, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 11:58:45 AM
Colts presser is in a few minutes.

Manning will be a Redskin in 2012. Mark it.

I actually like this option better than moving up for RGIII
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 12:03:21 PM
I have mixed feelings about it. Even if he is healthy.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 12:05:01 PM
Irsay is crying!
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: JPhishman on March 07, 2012, 12:10:43 PM
If I were the Colts, I'd probably be letting him go too. You can't expect the guy to be able to take any big hits since his neck procedures. Sadly, I'd be surprised if he makes it through the 12-13 season.

If Jerry Jones were smart he'd send Romo on the first train out of town and do whatever it took to pick Peyton up. Assuming they could protect him, that team would be deadly.

Not that I want to see that happen or see it as a likely scenario though. I say he'll probably end up taking it to South Beach. Who wouldn't?

Vikes would be sweet though. For gods sake stop wasting the best athlete in football and get AP some help up there!
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 12:31:53 PM
Yeah, I fully expect him to end up in Miami, Washington, or Arizona. I just don't think Snyder can resist himself.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Casey Lenahan on March 07, 2012, 06:06:46 PM
arizona. him and larry = scary
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: zimbra on March 08, 2012, 12:03:23 AM
What is this I heard about Denver & Peyton tonight?  I just caught the tail end of it on Sports Center. 
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: aphineday on March 08, 2012, 12:42:57 AM
Quote from: zimbra on March 08, 2012, 12:03:23 AM
What is this I heard about Denver & Peyton tonight?  I just caught the tail end of it on Sports Center. 
They were just the first team that said they'd reach out to him to see if he has any interest in heading to Denver (he doesn't I'm sure).
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: phil on March 08, 2012, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: Igbo on March 07, 2012, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 11:58:45 AM
Colts presser is in a few minutes.

Manning will be a Redskin in 2012. Mark it.

I actually like this option better than moving up for RGIII

Agreed. Moving up for RGIII would be disastrous. This franchise will end up in a tailspin if we do that, mark it.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: rowjimmy on March 08, 2012, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: phil on March 08, 2012, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: Igbo on March 07, 2012, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 11:58:45 AM
Colts presser is in a few minutes.

Manning will be a Redskin in 2012. Mark it.

I actually like this option better than moving up for RGIII

Agreed. Moving up for RGIII would be disastrous. This franchise will end up in a tailspin if we do that, mark it.

Umm...
Hate to break it to you, son. The Redskins are beyond tailspin.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: phil on March 08, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 08, 2012, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: phil on March 08, 2012, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: Igbo on March 07, 2012, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 11:58:45 AM
Colts presser is in a few minutes.

Manning will be a Redskin in 2012. Mark it.

I actually like this option better than moving up for RGIII

Agreed. Moving up for RGIII would be disastrous. This franchise will end up in a tailspin if we do that, mark it.

Umm...
Hate to break it to you, son. The Redskins are beyond tailspin.

I'm talking a move-the-franchise-to-london tailspin. We'd have to give up so much to get him that literally his only targets would be santana moss and jabar gaffney (who are a combined 300 years old between the two of them)
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: rowjimmy on March 08, 2012, 09:55:48 AM
Quote from: phil on March 08, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 08, 2012, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: phil on March 08, 2012, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: Igbo on March 07, 2012, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 11:58:45 AM
Colts presser is in a few minutes.

Manning will be a Redskin in 2012. Mark it.

I actually like this option better than moving up for RGIII

Agreed. Moving up for RGIII would be disastrous. This franchise will end up in a tailspin if we do that, mark it.

Umm...
Hate to break it to you, son. The Redskins are beyond tailspin.

I'm talking a move-the-franchise-to-london tailspin. We'd have to give up so much to get him that literally his only targets would be santana moss and jabar gaffney (who are a combined 300 years old between the two of them)

And without him we have what?

Exactly.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: RabeldyNugs on March 08, 2012, 10:10:34 AM
I've always hated Peyton but he is a pretty amazing player.  Anyway, dude ends up with the Chiefs, wait and see, he'll bring back football there just like he did to Indy.  I just dont want him in AFC East really so anywhere else is fine
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: phil on March 08, 2012, 10:21:16 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 08, 2012, 09:55:48 AM
Quote from: phil on March 08, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 08, 2012, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: phil on March 08, 2012, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: Igbo on March 07, 2012, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 11:58:45 AM
Colts presser is in a few minutes.

Manning will be a Redskin in 2012. Mark it.

I actually like this option better than moving up for RGIII

Agreed. Moving up for RGIII would be disastrous. This franchise will end up in a tailspin if we do that, mark it.

Umm...
Hate to break it to you, son. The Redskins are beyond tailspin.

I'm talking a move-the-franchise-to-london tailspin. We'd have to give up so much to get him that literally his only targets would be santana moss and jabar gaffney (who are a combined 300 years old between the two of them)

And without him we have what?

Exactly.

Seeing as how we've yet to be disappointed by this year's draft class, I'd say this year's draft class.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: rowjimmy on March 08, 2012, 10:33:34 AM
Quote from: phil on March 08, 2012, 10:21:16 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 08, 2012, 09:55:48 AM
Quote from: phil on March 08, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 08, 2012, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: phil on March 08, 2012, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: Igbo on March 07, 2012, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 11:58:45 AM
Colts presser is in a few minutes.

Manning will be a Redskin in 2012. Mark it.

I actually like this option better than moving up for RGIII

Agreed. Moving up for RGIII would be disastrous. This franchise will end up in a tailspin if we do that, mark it.

Umm...
Hate to break it to you, son. The Redskins are beyond tailspin.

I'm talking a move-the-franchise-to-london tailspin. We'd have to give up so much to get him that literally his only targets would be santana moss and jabar gaffney (who are a combined 300 years old between the two of them)

And without him we have what?

Exactly.

Seeing as how we've yet to be disappointed by this year's draft class, I'd say this year's draft class.

That makes sense given that we've never had a disappointing draft...
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: phil on March 08, 2012, 11:09:04 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 08, 2012, 10:33:34 AM
Quote from: phil on March 08, 2012, 10:21:16 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 08, 2012, 09:55:48 AM
Quote from: phil on March 08, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 08, 2012, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: phil on March 08, 2012, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: Igbo on March 07, 2012, 11:59:36 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 11:58:45 AM
Colts presser is in a few minutes.

Manning will be a Redskin in 2012. Mark it.

I actually like this option better than moving up for RGIII

Agreed. Moving up for RGIII would be disastrous. This franchise will end up in a tailspin if we do that, mark it.

Umm...
Hate to break it to you, son. The Redskins are beyond tailspin.

I'm talking a move-the-franchise-to-london tailspin. We'd have to give up so much to get him that literally his only targets would be santana moss and jabar gaffney (who are a combined 300 years old between the two of them)

And without him we have what?

Exactly.

Seeing as how we've yet to be disappointed by this year's draft class, I'd say this year's draft class.

That makes sense given that we've never had a disappointing draft...

That's why I said yet. I'm sure Morris Claiborne will turn out like LaRon Landry if we draft him, and I'm sure Justin Blackmon will turn out like Michael Westbrook if we draft him. They'll be fun to talk about before the season starts and they start failing, though.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: zimbra on March 08, 2012, 01:14:29 PM
Quote from: JPhishman on March 07, 2012, 12:10:43 PM


If Jerry Jones were smart he'd send Romo on the first train out of town and do whatever it took to pick Peyton up. Assuming they could protect him, that team would be deadly.


Vikes would be sweet though. For gods sake stop wasting the best athlete in football and get AP some help up there!

I disagree with your Cowboys statement but agree with the Vikings one.  Jerry Jones needs to keep Romo plus with our offensive line the way it is now we couldn't take the gamble with Manning.  The Cowboy's offensive line needs work but our defense is in worse shape so it will get a majority of the money this off season.  Adrian needs a QB, I'd like him to go there.   
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 19, 2012, 12:12:16 PM
Chris Mortensen is reporting on Twitter that Manning has signed with the Broncos. Details to follow.

ETA:  http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7709195/barring-snag-peyton-manning-picks-denver-broncos-sources-say

Quote
Peyton Manning picks Broncos

Peyton Manning will become the next quarterback of the Denver Broncos, barring a snag during intensified contract negotiations that have commenced under the instruction of the four-time MVP to his agent Tom Condon, according to multiple sources.

Once the Manning deal becomes official, Denver will try to trade Tim Tebow, according to sources.

Manning instructed Condon to negotiate the finite details of a contract that would conclude with him joining the Broncos after a frenzied but focused process that began when the Indianapolis Colts released him March 7.

A contract between the two sides is expected to be a formality. Broncos vice president of football operations John Elway and Manning first discussed the parameters of a five-year, $95 million contract during their March 9 meeting in Denver, the first time the former Indianapolis Colts quarterback visited a team during his free agency.

Elway then told Manning during the Friday, March 16 trip to Durham, N.C. -- where the quarterback has done the majority of his training -- that he wanted to finalize a contract "fair to both sides." Neither side expects any hangups.

However, details such as guaranteed money, structure of the deal and contract language designed to protect the Broncos in the event of Manning's inability to perform due to his prior neck surgeries all will be addressed in the contract, sources said.

Yet the Broncos have few concerns with Manning's medical condition. He already passed the physical exam that a team of Broncos doctors administered during the visit to Durham, a development that Elway informed Manning of when he returned home to Denver that night.

Manning also passed physical exams by the San Francisco 49ers and Tennessee Titans but he has told all teams that he still has gains to achieve in terms of arm strength and endurance that are related to nerve regeneration due to his neck injury. Nevertheless, his throwing sessions observed by all three teams -- combined with extensive video of previous workouts -- was satisfactory enough for those teams to pursue the most celebrated available player since the NFL's free agency era began in 1993.

But Elway now has helped produce Denver's biggest win since he led the Broncos to their last Super Bowl win in January 1999. Elway and Manning have stayed in close contract throughout this process, strengthening a relationship that grew well beyond the golf the two had played together in the past.

Manning is comfortable enough with Denver that he has directed Condon not to negotiate with the other two finalists, the San Francisco 49ers and the Tennessee Titans, to avoid any perception that he was seeking financial leverage, sources said.

Only an unforeseen significant obstacle that would develop during the final stages of negotiations would prevent Manning from signing with the Broncos, sources said.

Once the contract is completed, Manning will travel to Denver for a press conference to formally introduce him as the team's next quarterback. Shortly thereafter, Manning will be allowed to work with the team's trainers, strength and medical staffs because of his prior neck surgery.

While Manning soon will arrive in Denver, Tebow could well depart. According to sources, Denver will try to trade Tebow -- who led the team to an 8-8 finish, an AFC West title and a first-round playoff victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Manning's arrival will set in motion a string of personnel moves for the Broncos. Denver has had a free-agent plan strictly for if the team was able to sign Manning. The two sides now will pursue other players to bolster the roster, some of whom will be familiar to Manning.

One interesting player is former Colts center Jeff Saturday, whom Manning has always endorsed as invaluable to his own performance. A source said discussions related to Saturday, who was Manning's center with the Colts for 12 years, involved evaluations by all three teams' personnel and coaching staffs on whether he would be a logical fit for the team. However, Manning did not mandate that he and Saturday would be a package deal, sources said.

Saturday was supposed to visit the Green Bay Packers and Tenneesse, but Denver will have great allure due to Manning's arrival, whenever it becomes official.

Under terms of the new collective bargaining agreement, Manning is not allowed to engage in classroom football discussions with the coaching staff until April 16.

He will not be allowed to use the team's football field under the supervision and instruction of the coaching staff until May 2. Any throwing sessions under the supervision of trainers that are considered part of his rehab may not involve current Broncos receivers until April 16. He can throw independently with Denver receivers without coaching supervision or instruction but it must be away from the facility until the allowable voluntary window opens per the CBA.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: mehead on March 19, 2012, 12:26:57 PM
the only thing that sux about this is that we will now be subject to more Tebow bullshit once he gets traded   :frustrated:
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Igbo on March 19, 2012, 12:43:06 PM
Quote from: mehead on March 19, 2012, 12:26:57 PM
the only thing that sux about this is that we will now be subject to more Tebow bullshit once he gets traded   :frustrated:

i'm laughing at all the people who made the Tebow jersey the #1 jersey sold last year.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: rowjimmy on March 19, 2012, 12:57:19 PM
Quote from: Igbo on March 19, 2012, 12:43:06 PM
Quote from: mehead on March 19, 2012, 12:26:57 PM
the only thing that sux about this is that we will now be subject to more Tebow bullshit once he gets traded   :frustrated:

i'm laughing at all the people who made the Tebow jersey the #1 jersey sold last year.

Tebow is gettin tboned.


Semantic detail:
Manning hasn't signed with the Broncos... yet. He simply intends to do so.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: VDB on March 19, 2012, 01:13:09 PM
Quote from: mehead on March 19, 2012, 12:26:57 PM
the only thing that sux about this is that we will now be subject to more Tebow bullshit once he gets traded   :frustrated:

Seconded.

I heard rumblings last week that they might want him in Jacksonville.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Undermind on March 19, 2012, 01:26:09 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on March 19, 2012, 01:13:09 PM
Quote from: mehead on March 19, 2012, 12:26:57 PM
the only thing that sux about this is that we will now be subject to more Tebow bullshit once he gets traded   :frustrated:

Seconded.

I heard rumblings last week that they might want him in Jacksonville.
There are some Patriots rumors going around too because McDaniels picked him when he was the couch of the Broncos.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: DoW on March 19, 2012, 01:38:24 PM
Quote from: Igbo on March 19, 2012, 12:43:06 PM
Quote from: mehead on March 19, 2012, 12:26:57 PM
the only thing that sux about this is that we will now be subject to more Tebow bullshit once he gets traded   :frustrated:

i'm laughing at all the people who made the Tebow jersey the #1 jersey sold last year.
this was my first thought.

I also hope he goes to the Patriots.  the Patriots can keep tryign to tweak their offense, but any dollar not spent on their defense this year is a wasted dollar imo.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Undermind on March 19, 2012, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: bvaz on March 19, 2012, 01:38:24 PM
Quote from: Igbo on March 19, 2012, 12:43:06 PM
Quote from: mehead on March 19, 2012, 12:26:57 PM
the only thing that sux about this is that we will now be subject to more Tebow bullshit once he gets traded   :frustrated:

i'm laughing at all the people who made the Tebow jersey the #1 jersey sold last year.
this was my first thought.

I also hope he goes to the Patriots.  the Patriots can keep tryign to tweak their offense, but any dollar not spent on their defense this year is a wasted dollar imo.
I agree.  We don't need Tebow, unless they are going to turn him into a Linebacker!
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: DoW on March 19, 2012, 02:08:28 PM
Quote from: Undermind on March 19, 2012, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: bvaz on March 19, 2012, 01:38:24 PM
Quote from: Igbo on March 19, 2012, 12:43:06 PM
Quote from: mehead on March 19, 2012, 12:26:57 PM
the only thing that sux about this is that we will now be subject to more Tebow bullshit once he gets traded   :frustrated:

i'm laughing at all the people who made the Tebow jersey the #1 jersey sold last year.
this was my first thought.

I also hope he goes to the Patriots.  the Patriots can keep tryign to tweak their offense, but any dollar not spent on their defense this year is a wasted dollar imo.
I agree.  We don't need Tebow, unless they are going to turn him into a Linebacker!
maybe tebow can be a tight end and gronk can play linebacker.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: phil on March 19, 2012, 05:52:19 PM
I love that Peyton went to the Broncos. They were always one of my favorite teams, but I refrained from rooting for them during the Tebow nonsense. Now I have a reason to care about the AFC again!
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: VDB on March 20, 2012, 09:00:51 AM
This is the kind of speculation I could do without...

QuoteMost likely, Tebow winds up as a reserve in a place like New England or New Orleans (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AkCDqiqF6W7H69zrJ9aBgHk5nYcB?slug=lc-carpenter_tim_tebow_peyton_manning_elway_broncos_031912)
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Undermind on March 20, 2012, 09:21:31 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on March 20, 2012, 09:00:51 AM
This is the kind of speculation I could do without...

QuoteMost likely, Tebow winds up as a reserve in a place like New England or New Orleans (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AkCDqiqF6W7H69zrJ9aBgHk5nYcB?slug=lc-carpenter_tim_tebow_peyton_manning_elway_broncos_031912)

I really don't think that he will be a reserve QB if the Patriots get him.  I don't see him as being groomed to takeover at QB ever.  If the Patriots get him it will be for a role as a RB/TE type H back.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: DoW on March 20, 2012, 09:33:45 AM
Quote from: Undermind on March 20, 2012, 09:21:31 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on March 20, 2012, 09:00:51 AM
This is the kind of speculation I could do without...

QuoteMost likely, Tebow winds up as a reserve in a place like New England or New Orleans (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AkCDqiqF6W7H69zrJ9aBgHk5nYcB?slug=lc-carpenter_tim_tebow_peyton_manning_elway_broncos_031912)

I really don't think that he will be a reserve QB if the Patriots get him.  I don't see him as being groomed to takeover at QB ever.  If the Patriots get him it will be for a role as a RB/TE type H back.
I agree, but they already have aaron hernandez.  how many of those players do you really need?  does he really make their offense better?
someone may give him a shot to compete for the starting job. 
I heard on the radio today that broncos went from a 75-1 odds to win the super bowl to 8-1.  don't know if that is true but manning hasn;t played in a year and he will be under a new offense.  just ridiculous.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: VDB on March 20, 2012, 11:29:00 AM
Is Tebow even interested in switching positions? Would any team that takes him only do so being comfortable having him on the roster as a QB lest they incur the possible headaches of trying to move him somewhere else?
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Undermind on March 20, 2012, 11:55:19 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on March 20, 2012, 11:29:00 AM
Is Tebow even interested in switching positions? Would any team that takes him only do so being comfortable having him on the roster as a QB lest they incur the possible headaches of trying to move him somewhere else?
He seems like a bright guy.  He has to know that he's not a very good QB right now.

Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 20, 2012, 12:23:59 PM
I'm still scratching my head why he picked Denver. Seems to me that he's only got 2-3 more yrs (if that) to win another Super Bowl. I would think with him in San Fran with that defense and the new weapons they have they'd have a great shot at getting back there. But Denver's not going anywhere anytime soon. Who the fuck is he gonna throw to? The only things I can come up with is (a) he figures John Fox will let him run the show whereas Harbaugh might have tried to tell him what to do or (b) he wants Elway's cock so bad he can taste it.

There's a lot of talk that he didn't want to go to the NFC because he wants to play Eli in the Super Bowl. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard and if there's any semblance of truth to it I've lost all respect for Peyton. Now he'll end up with 1 Super Bowl and he'll be remembered more for being a great QB who struggled to get it done when it mattered. Meanwhile, Eli (who I'll call a fraud to my grave) has 2 championship winning drives. God I'll laugh if Peyton doesn't make the HoF while his dumber, less talented brother coasts right in.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Igbo on March 20, 2012, 12:26:13 PM
Quote from: Undermind on March 20, 2012, 11:55:19 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on March 20, 2012, 11:29:00 AM
Is Tebow even interested in switching positions? Would any team that takes him only do so being comfortable having him on the roster as a QB lest they incur the possible headaches of trying to move him somewhere else?
He seems like a bright guy.  He has to know that he's not a very good QB right now.

There are QB's starting in the league worse than Tebow
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: DoW on March 20, 2012, 12:29:51 PM
Quote from: Igbo on March 20, 2012, 12:26:13 PM
Quote from: Undermind on March 20, 2012, 11:55:19 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on March 20, 2012, 11:29:00 AM
Is Tebow even interested in switching positions? Would any team that takes him only do so being comfortable having him on the roster as a QB lest they incur the possible headaches of trying to move him somewhere else?
He seems like a bright guy.  He has to know that he's not a very good QB right now.

There are QB's starting in the league worse than Tebow
and one just got his contract extended.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: VDB on March 20, 2012, 12:32:14 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on March 20, 2012, 12:23:59 PM
I'm still scratching my head why he picked Denver. Seems to me that he's only got 2-3 more yrs (if that) to win another Super Bowl. I would think with him in San Fran with that defense and the new weapons they have they'd have a great shot at getting back there. But Denver's not going anywhere anytime soon. Who the fuck is he gonna throw to? The only things I can come up with is (a) he figures John Fox will let him run the show whereas Harbaugh might have tried to tell him what to do or (b) he wants Elway's cock so bad he can taste it.

There's a lot of talk that he didn't want to go to the NFC because he wants to play Eli in the Super Bowl. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard and if there's any semblance of truth to it I've lost all respect for Peyton. Now he'll end up with 1 Super Bowl and he'll be remembered more for being a great QB who struggled to get it done when it mattered. Meanwhile, Eli (who I'll call a fraud to my grave) has 2 championship winning drives. God I'll laugh if Peyton doesn't make the HoF while his dumber, less talented brother coasts right in.

Should we discount the fact that Denver won a playoff game last year with a quarterback that everyone seems many seem to agree isn't good enough to QB anywhere in the league? Didn't Indy go from perennial contender with Peyton to worst team in the league without him? I'm not sure it's so assured that he can't/won't win in Denver.

(But I do agree with you about Eli.)



[edited in fairness to Igbo's remark]
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: antelope19 on March 20, 2012, 03:11:40 PM
Agreed.  I don't understand why he went to Denver either.  Seems to me that you plug Peyton in in San Fran and they're a lock to make the playoffs a superbowl run for the next three years.

There has to be something else that no one else knows. 

Part of me wants this to all blow up in their face.  Tebow has gotten a raw deal in all of this.   
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: mistercharlie on March 20, 2012, 05:02:58 PM
Well, I've been trying for years to get the wife to move to Colorado. At least now if I finally win, I'll have a good QB there.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: DoW on March 20, 2012, 05:12:10 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 20, 2012, 03:11:40 PM
Tebow has gotten a raw deal in all of this.
not if he gets a shot to be a QB somewhere else.
the guy won games last year and that is what should matter.  yeah, he got steamrolled by NE in the playoffs, but it's to a team that was at least damn close to winning it all.

I question his long term viability as a starting QB in this league.  if he is really good enough to be that, he will get his shot somewhere else.  in a league top heavy with great QBs and a lot of mediocrity, he'll get a chance somewhere else if he earns it.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: phil on March 20, 2012, 07:53:26 PM

Quote from: antelope19 on March 20, 2012, 03:11:40 PM
Tebow has gotten a raw deal in all of this.

I hope it keeps getting raw-er. Fuck a Tebow.
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Thrillhouse on March 21, 2012, 11:19:18 AM
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Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: mistercharlie on March 21, 2012, 11:27:07 AM
HA!
Title: Re: Colts Release Peyton Manning
Post by: Undermind on March 21, 2012, 11:45:52 AM
Quote from: mistercharlie on March 21, 2012, 11:27:07 AM
HA!