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Title: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on January 01, 2011, 01:45:15 PM
Happy 2011 paugers!
Just wanted some advice from those of you established audiophile types out there who have been doing this a while. I'm looking to purchase my first turntable, and possibly some new speakers sometime in the (hopefully) not too distant future. I'm just getting in to this, but I want it to sound good (obviously). Maybe a good idea of where to start with a deck/stylus and then speakers too. I currently have a Denon receiver that I bought on the advice of a friend in 2008. It's not high-end, but it doesn't suck either. I'll update with the model number when I get back home in a couple of days. I want to say it's the 689, but I'm not sure. It looks right, but the wattage seems lower than mine. Either way, that's pretty close to what I'm running now with a Energy 5 speaker/sub package I bought with it. Totally budget'd, but I'm in the market to upgrade for sure when I get the money.

Thanks to anyone with ideas, much appreciated!
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Marmar on January 01, 2011, 05:29:55 PM
Technics MK1200......workhorse.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on January 02, 2011, 02:37:23 PM
Definitely a "do want" item. What should I be looking to pay for this bad boy? Also, good here for lossless rips?
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Hicks on January 03, 2011, 04:03:05 PM
I sell speakers, and can hook some serious deals when you are ready, check it out:

http://www.aperionaudio.com/home.aspx (http://www.aperionaudio.com/home.aspx)

Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Marmar on January 03, 2011, 07:54:16 PM
Tech 1200mkII's will set ya back about $400.....no cartridge or needle.....

Make shure you have a GOOD phono pre-amp....(RIAA EQ....)

and DO NOT skimp on the cartridge/needle.....

1200mkII's are the industry standard....direct drive....YEARS of use out of one.......I wouldn't consider it an "audiophile" grade component, but for the $$$ it's gonna be as close as you'll get without dumping over a grand.....
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on January 03, 2011, 08:09:55 PM
Quote from: Marmar on January 03, 2011, 07:54:16 PM
Tech 1200mkII's will set ya back about $400.....no cartridge or needle.....

Make shure you have a GOOD phono pre-amp....(RIAA EQ....)

and DO NOT skimp on the cartridge/needle.....

1200mkII's are the industry standard....direct drive....YEARS of use out of one.......I wouldn't consider it an "audiophile" grade component, but for the $$$ it's gonna be as close as you'll get without dumping over a grand.....
Looks like it could get expensive quick, but it's something that is a total investment. I'm in for sure. May have to buy it in pieces, but I'm in. What should I be looking for in a cartridge/needle?
Hicks, thanks for those links! Shit looks dope. I'm assuming you'll be able to steer me in the right direction when I can save some scratch to grab speakers?
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: zimbra on January 04, 2011, 04:11:47 AM
Quote from: Hicks on January 03, 2011, 04:03:05 PM
I sell speakers, and can hook some serious deals when you are ready, check it out:

http://www.aperionaudio.com/home.aspx (http://www.aperionaudio.com/home.aspx)

When I met you at the Gordo show you had to tell me this like 10 times. 
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: PIE-GUY on January 04, 2011, 09:55:14 AM
Quote from: zimbra on January 04, 2011, 04:11:47 AM
Quote from: Hicks on January 03, 2011, 04:03:05 PM
I sell speakers, and can hook some serious deals when you are ready, check it out:

http://www.aperionaudio.com/home.aspx (http://www.aperionaudio.com/home.aspx)

When I met you at the Gordo show you had to tell me this like 10 times.

the kid's a guru!!

Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: antelope19 on January 04, 2011, 10:02:23 AM
 :-D
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Igbo on January 04, 2011, 11:14:44 AM
I think everyone knows my love for my Technics 1200, i've posted it multiple times so i dont need to say how great of a table it is. Audiophile sure it's not, but  high quality and will last forever, yes.

Buuuuuut, if its your 1st turntable and $$$ may be an issue, why blow your wad asking "audiophile" types what to be? Next thing you know your in for $500+. Fuck it man, its your first turntable, look on craigslist. There are always people selling tables. You can get a decent Dual or even a used technics for $500 with a cartridge. OR, buy a shitbox table like a Best Buy Sony for $90 just to get started.

Basically, my advice is just get a good started table and save your money TO BUY RECORDS!!!! Who wants to have a sick system and your bargain bin scratchy copy of Frampton Comes Alive to play it on?
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Hicks on January 04, 2011, 11:53:27 AM
Quote from: Igbo on January 04, 2011, 11:14:44 AM
I think everyone knows my love for my Technics 1200, i've posted it multiple times so i dont need to say how great of a table it is. Audiophile sure it's not, but  high quality and will last forever, yes.

Buuuuuut, if its your 1st turntable and $$$ may be an issue, why blow your wad asking "audiophile" types what to be? Next thing you know your in for $500+. Fuck it man, its your first turntable, look on craigslist. There are always people selling tables. You can get a decent Dual or even a used technics for $500 with a cartridge. OR, buy a shitbox table like a Best Buy Sony for $90 just to get started.

Basically, my advice is just get a good started table and save your money TO BUY RECORDS!!!! Who wants to have a sick system and your bargain bin scratchy copy of Frampton Comes Alive to play it on?

I agree, unless you want to DJ you don't really need a 1200.

Pick up a Technics DL or Pioneer direct drive turntable that's in good shape at Goodwill for $50 or so and you'll be set. 

Yes, when you are ready to buy speakers I will guru your shit!   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: mbw on January 04, 2011, 03:12:16 PM
buy some aperions from hicks.

and yeah, craigslist did me well for a turntable.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: nab on January 04, 2011, 05:13:12 PM
:Walks by thread:
:Peaks in and waves:
:Exits thread before the urge to buy more equipment gets too serious:
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: ph92 on January 04, 2011, 07:05:56 PM
Quote from: aphineday on January 03, 2011, 08:09:55 PM
Quote from: Marmar on January 03, 2011, 07:54:16 PM
Tech 1200mkII's will set ya back about $400.....no cartridge or needle.....

Make shure you have a GOOD phono pre-amp....(RIAA EQ....)

and DO NOT skimp on the cartridge/needle.....

1200mkII's are the industry standard....direct drive....YEARS of use out of one.......I wouldn't consider it an "audiophile" grade component, but for the $$$ it's gonna be as close as you'll get without dumping over a grand.....
Looks like it could get expensive quick, but it's something that is a total investment. I'm in for sure. May have to buy it in pieces, but I'm in. What should I be looking for in a cartridge/needle?
Hicks, thanks for those links! Shit looks dope. I'm assuming you'll be able to steer me in the right direction when I can save some scratch to grab speakers?
I would suggest not buying a new one, because as the newer versions came out the more features were added. And these features are made for DJ's mostly because it is one of the best tables made for DJ's.

Though it is a GREAT turntable, the "accepted" (from what I've read) turntable for audiophiles is a belt drive for the sole reason that it is quieter. Direct drives are generally more expensive because the direct drive design needs more durable, and higher quality parts.

And that is all I know about turntables. :-D Good luck!

And I'll just let Hicks do his thing. But I'm gonna put in my .02$, I love towers, so I would suggest getting towers for sure. I would suggest you get a 2 channels system if you are mainly going to be listening to music, otherwise surround sound (or any digital recreation) is kind of dumb for music as music generally isn't recorded in 5.1.  I do like surround for one reason, movies. Otherwise I want the closest to all analog setup possible (if the amp has 2 channels, it should be analog). It's when you get all this 2.1,  5.1, 7.1 nonsense that you have a chip splitting up the signal into the respective channels. This can degrade the sound (depending how good the amp is) and give you a false representation of the recording.

But you should for sure shoot for towers if your budget allows it. Especially if you are going with a pure stereo system, because most towers (from what I've seen) have at least one tweeter, one midrange and one woofer.

/.02$

Also my dad owns some Definitive Technology towers and they sound absolutely amazing! I love them so much, so if you can't for some reason find something from Hicks I would suggest them.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: rowjimmy on January 05, 2011, 11:22:27 AM
I just wanted to jump in hear and say that you should just send the records to me, stick with flac and buy speakers from Hicks.

that is all.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on January 05, 2011, 11:42:26 AM
Quote from: Hicks on January 04, 2011, 11:53:27 AM
Quote from: Igbo on January 04, 2011, 11:14:44 AM
I think everyone knows my love for my Technics 1200, i've posted it multiple times so i dont need to say how great of a table it is. Audiophile sure it's not, but  high quality and will last forever, yes.

Buuuuuut, if its your 1st turntable and $$$ may be an issue, why blow your wad asking "audiophile" types what to be? Next thing you know your in for $500+. Fuck it man, its your first turntable, look on craigslist. There are always people selling tables. You can get a decent Dual or even a used technics for $500 with a cartridge. OR, buy a shitbox table like a Best Buy Sony for $90 just to get started.

Basically, my advice is just get a good started table and save your money TO BUY RECORDS!!!! Who wants to have a sick system and your bargain bin scratchy copy of Frampton Comes Alive to play it on?

I agree, unless you want to DJ you don't really need a 1200.

Pick up a Technics DL or Pioneer direct drive turntable that's in good shape at Goodwill for $50 or so and you'll be set. 

Yes, when you are ready to buy speakers I will guru your shit!   :mrgreen:
Seems like solid advice, thanks to all of you for your input. Also, I'm definitely down to let you guru my system. We'll need to talk a little more in-depth to kind of figure out what I need once I get a little scratch put back, but should be in the near future.

Quote from: rowjimmy on January 05, 2011, 11:22:27 AM
I just wanted to jump in hear and say that you should just send the records to me, stick with flac and buy speakers from Hicks.

that is all.
:clap:
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: postjack on January 05, 2011, 11:42:30 AM
Technics SL1200MK2 - actually this retails for $800ish now, they had a recent price jump. still the best deck <$1000 IMO.
Pro-Ject Debut III or Rega RP1 - starter tables which include a prealigned cartridge, $300-$450 range. people seem to like these, though they might have pitch or noise issues you may or may not notice. all you need if you get one of these is a phono stage.

the best value is to do some research and buy a used vintage deck. if you go this route you'll probably have to get a new cart and align it, which will introduce you to a world of frustration and anger.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on January 06, 2011, 12:22:22 PM
Thanks to all of you again. I found a used Fisher MT-6225 pretty close to me for $40. The link is below, and it looks like pretty decent shape for a vintage deck. I'll probably end up going with this for now.
EDIT: Here's the link: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2144742355.html (http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2144742355.html)
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: antelope19 on January 06, 2011, 12:34:18 PM
Quote from: aphineday on January 06, 2011, 12:22:22 PM
Thanks to all of you again. I found a used Fisher MT-6225 pretty close to me for $40. The link is below, and it looks like pretty decent shape for a vintage deck. I'll probably end up going with this for now.
EDIT: Here's the link: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2144742355.html (http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2144742355.html)

I think that guy lives at an Olan Mills Studio!

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oHvyeWBRhXU/SS6wPjHaZ_I/AAAAAAAACDw/4qzi_sGGbcw/s400/olanmills75.jpg)
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Hicks on January 06, 2011, 12:38:33 PM
Quote from: aphineday on January 06, 2011, 12:22:22 PM
Thanks to all of you again. I found a used Fisher MT-6225 pretty close to me for $40. The link is below, and it looks like pretty decent shape for a vintage deck. I'll probably end up going with this for now.
EDIT: Here's the link: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2144742355.html (http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2144742355.html)

Do it, that AT cartridge looks like it's in nice shape and that's worth almost $40 right there.

ETA, assuming that's the actual TT you will get.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on January 06, 2011, 12:39:34 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on January 06, 2011, 12:34:18 PM
Quote from: aphineday on January 06, 2011, 12:22:22 PM
Thanks to all of you again. I found a used Fisher MT-6225 pretty close to me for $40. The link is below, and it looks like pretty decent shape for a vintage deck. I'll probably end up going with this for now.
EDIT: Here's the link: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2144742355.html (http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2144742355.html)

I think that guy lives at an Olan Mills Studio!

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oHvyeWBRhXU/SS6wPjHaZ_I/AAAAAAAACDw/4qzi_sGGbcw/s400/olanmills75.jpg)
I have literally been laughing out loud for the past 2 minutes. So right.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: antelope19 on January 06, 2011, 12:41:41 PM
Quote from: aphineday on January 06, 2011, 12:39:34 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on January 06, 2011, 12:34:18 PM
Quote from: aphineday on January 06, 2011, 12:22:22 PM
Thanks to all of you again. I found a used Fisher MT-6225 pretty close to me for $40. The link is below, and it looks like pretty decent shape for a vintage deck. I'll probably end up going with this for now.
EDIT: Here's the link: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2144742355.html (http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2144742355.html)

I think that guy lives at an Olan Mills Studio!

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oHvyeWBRhXU/SS6wPjHaZ_I/AAAAAAAACDw/4qzi_sGGbcw/s400/olanmills75.jpg)
I have literally been laughing out loud for the past 2 minutes. So right.

:-o

I'd be careful when you go to pick it up.   :-D

In all seriousness, congrats on the new purchase!
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on January 06, 2011, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: Hicks on January 06, 2011, 12:38:33 PM
Quote from: aphineday on January 06, 2011, 12:22:22 PM
Thanks to all of you again. I found a used Fisher MT-6225 pretty close to me for $40. The link is below, and it looks like pretty decent shape for a vintage deck. I'll probably end up going with this for now.
EDIT: Here's the link: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2144742355.html (http://desmoines.craigslist.org/ele/2144742355.html)

Do it, that AT cartridge looks like it's in nice shape and that's worth almost $40 right there.

ETA, assuming that's the actual TT you will get.
Word, I'm all over it. Just emailed the guy and told him I'd take it. Should be picking up this evening!
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on January 06, 2011, 12:58:15 PM
"I have a friend coming from Ames tonight to look at it, on the off hand chance he doesn't buy it, there is one other person in front of you, I'll let you know if it doesn't go to either one of them."
After I emailed him and asked if it was still for sale! What a fuck.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Pholy M. Pia on May 06, 2011, 12:32:23 PM
This is a very informative thread! It inspired me to hit craigslist and I'm now second in line to buy a Dual 1214 for $25, that went, in working order, into storage 20 years ago. This seems like a good deal from what I've been able to pick up here and skimming over at audiokarma.
So, If I might ask, is there anything I should know about this model? The low entry price makes it less than critical but any advice would be appreciated. Also, would I need a preamp to run this satisfactorily through an early nineties Onkyo component amp?
I've got my old vinyl collection waiting, but I'm just getting started in the realm of playback, looks like a steep, slippery slope.  :evil:
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: ph92 on May 06, 2011, 12:37:13 PM
Quote from: aphineday on January 06, 2011, 12:58:15 PM
"I have a friend coming from Ames tonight to look at it, on the off hand chance he doesn't buy it, there is one other person in front of you, I'll let you know if it doesn't go to either one of them."
After I emailed him and asked if it was still for sale! What a fuck.
Did you ever end up getting that table dude?
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Caravan2001 on May 06, 2011, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: Pholy M. Pia on May 06, 2011, 12:32:23 PM
This is a very informative thread! It inspired me to hit craigslist and I'm now second in line to buy a Dual 1214 for $25, that went, in working order, into storage 20 years ago. This seems like a good deal from what I've been able to pick up here and skimming over at audiokarma.
So, If I might ask, is there anything I should know about this model? The low entry price makes it less than critical but any advice would be appreciated. Also, would I need a preamp to run this satisfactorily through an early nineties Onkyo component amp?
I've got my old vinyl collection waiting, but I'm just getting started in the realm of playback, looks like a steep, slippery slope.  :evil:

While the 1214 is on the lower end of the Dual line, it will do a great job for you provided it has a decent cartridge.  I have a 1219 and love it.  You shouldn't need a pre-amp to run it through the Onkyo.  Good luck!
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: mattstick on May 06, 2011, 12:46:33 PM

I have a 1219 too.  Love it.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Pholy M. Pia on May 06, 2011, 03:09:02 PM
Thanks! Here's hoping for the first caller flaking!
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on May 08, 2011, 11:00:46 AM
Quote from: phishhead92 on May 06, 2011, 12:37:13 PM
Quote from: aphineday on January 06, 2011, 12:58:15 PM
"I have a friend coming from Ames tonight to look at it, on the off hand chance he doesn't buy it, there is one other person in front of you, I'll let you know if it doesn't go to either one of them."
After I emailed him and asked if it was still for sale! What a fuck.
Did you ever end up getting that table dude?
Nope, he ended up selling it to the first guy I guess. Money got a little tight, so I kind of put this on the back burner even though I didn't want to. By a weird turn of events, over Easter a friend of mine who is moving to China offered to give me her current table. Pretty sweet even though I have no idea what type of table it is. We'll see.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on September 16, 2011, 06:09:33 PM
Okay after putting this on the back burner for a few months, I ended up getting a good deal on a Numark TT200. $125 for the table and a new Shure M25C. Dude also threw in a copy of "Wake Of The Flood" with the purchase. I'm pretty excited to hook this up. A little confused by all of these knobs and settings ;). I'll be playing around with this in the next few days. Feel free to toss any suggestions you may have regarding settings/etc.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on September 17, 2011, 11:50:02 PM
So, set up the turntable last night, and was very exited to kick off a listen of Exile when I realized that I don't have a pre-amp. DUH. All I have right now for headphones are some of the cheaper Bose that you could buy at Target like 4 years ago. They don't suck, but I might need an upgrade in that department as well.

So audiophiles, what say you for a pre-amp, and some cans? Do I need a headphone amp? I know, I'm a complete n00b on this stuff, but I'll get there. Thanks a bunch for any ideas.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: mbw on September 18, 2011, 12:04:07 AM
what kind of receiver is it going into?  are you sure there isnt a dedicated phono input?
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on September 18, 2011, 12:14:03 AM
Extremely valid question. I really looked at my receiver, and I can't find any kind of phono input. I have a Denon AVR689.
Here's a link with a pretty good shot of the inputs if anyone cares to take a look (maybe I'm missing something), but I don't think it has a spot.
Weird thing is, when you look at the features listed on that site, it claims this unit has a phono input.

http://www.4electronicwarehouse.com/products/denon/avr-689-7-1-channel-receiver.html
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: kellerb on September 18, 2011, 12:56:04 AM
Quote from: aphineday on September 18, 2011, 12:14:03 AM
Extremely valid question. I really looked at my receiver, and I can't find any kind of phono input. I have a Denon AVR689.
Here's a link with a pretty good shot of the inputs if anyone cares to take a look (maybe I'm missing something), but I don't think it has a spot.
Weird thing is, when you look at the features listed on that site, it claims this unit has a phono input.

http://www.4electronicwarehouse.com/products/denon/avr-689-7-1-channel-receiver.html

I see no phono inputs.  However, there's an AUX and a separate VCR/iPod.  I'd try the AUX and see if the input level is reasonable.  Consult the manual, one of the inputs may be for phono but unlabeled?  I assume it would have to have the input levels adjustable somehow though, to deal with phono.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on September 18, 2011, 01:40:03 AM
Quote from: kellerb on September 18, 2011, 12:56:04 AM
Quote from: aphineday on September 18, 2011, 12:14:03 AM
Extremely valid question. I really looked at my receiver, and I can't find any kind of phono input. I have a Denon AVR689.
Here's a link with a pretty good shot of the inputs if anyone cares to take a look (maybe I'm missing something), but I don't think it has a spot.
Weird thing is, when you look at the features listed on that site, it claims this unit has a phono input.

http://www.4electronicwarehouse.com/products/denon/avr-689-7-1-channel-receiver.html

I see no phono inputs.  However, there's an AUX and a separate VCR/iPod.  I'd try the AUX and see if the input level is reasonable.  Consult the manual, one of the inputs may be for phono but unlabeled?  I assume it would have to have the input levels adjustable somehow though, to deal with phono.
Interesting. I'll check the manual. Thanks man!
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: mbw on September 18, 2011, 10:59:21 AM
most likely not then, i just wanted to make sure.

im a total n00b at this too, and my current receiver has a dedicated phono input.
i will be upgrading to a surround receiver soon, which wont have one, so i will most likely get either this:

http://www.needledoctor.com/Whest-MC-REF-V-Dual-Mono-Phonostage?sc=2&category=36638

or more probably this:

http://www.needledoctor.com/Needle-Doctor-Phono-Preamps-and-Stereo-Phono-Preamps-1-800-229-0644-Audio-Technica-PEQ3-Phono-Preamp?sc=2&category=35249
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on September 19, 2011, 12:16:42 AM
I literally lol'd. I think I'll go with option one. Thanks, T.

So pre-amp is knocked out, what about a headphone amp/headphones. Or would it be better to get solid speakers first? Anyone have a suggestion on that?
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Hicks on September 20, 2011, 10:55:48 AM
It depends, do you, or will you do most of your listening through speakers or headphones?
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: ph92 on September 20, 2011, 11:46:11 AM
Good headphones are a ton cheaper than good speakers... Which is why I started with headphone gear.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on September 20, 2011, 04:20:50 PM
Quote from: Hicks on September 20, 2011, 10:55:48 AM
It depends, do you, or will you do most of your listening through speakers or headphones?
I'd probably rather start with headphones. I live in an apartment right now, so keeping the noise to a somewhat minimum might be for the best. That being said, I'll be wanting some speakers at some point soon. What should I expect to pay for something decent?
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Hicks on September 21, 2011, 03:53:31 PM
Quote from: aphineday on September 20, 2011, 04:20:50 PM
Quote from: Hicks on September 20, 2011, 10:55:48 AM
It depends, do you, or will you do most of your listening through speakers or headphones?
I'd probably rather start with headphones. I live in an apartment right now, so keeping the noise to a somewhat minimum might be for the best. That being said, I'll be wanting some speakers at some point soon. What should I expect to pay for something decent?

For speakers?

Deal with me and it won't be much.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on September 21, 2011, 04:41:07 PM
Quote from: Hicks on September 21, 2011, 03:53:31 PM
Quote from: aphineday on September 20, 2011, 04:20:50 PM
Quote from: Hicks on September 20, 2011, 10:55:48 AM
It depends, do you, or will you do most of your listening through speakers or headphones?
I'd probably rather start with headphones. I live in an apartment right now, so keeping the noise to a somewhat minimum might be for the best. That being said, I'll be wanting some speakers at some point soon. What should I expect to pay for something decent?

For speakers?

Deal with me and it won't be much.
You are certainly my go-to on speakers. Let's chat it out sometime, Mr. Guru.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Hicks on September 21, 2011, 05:03:31 PM
Quote from: aphineday on September 21, 2011, 04:41:07 PM
Quote from: Hicks on September 21, 2011, 03:53:31 PM
Quote from: aphineday on September 20, 2011, 04:20:50 PM
Quote from: Hicks on September 20, 2011, 10:55:48 AM
It depends, do you, or will you do most of your listening through speakers or headphones?
I'd probably rather start with headphones. I live in an apartment right now, so keeping the noise to a somewhat minimum might be for the best. That being said, I'll be wanting some speakers at some point soon. What should I expect to pay for something decent?

For speakers?

Deal with me and it won't be much.
You are certainly my go-to on speakers. Let's chat it out sometime, Mr. Guru.

Sounds good mang.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 21, 2011, 06:01:53 PM
You should start an "ask Mr. Guru" thread...

Speaking of, tell me about that fancy wireless setup y'all sell... is it worth it? Is there a good way to listen to vinyl through it? Does it sound sweet?
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Hicks on September 21, 2011, 11:43:47 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on September 21, 2011, 06:01:53 PM
You should start an "ask Mr. Guru" thread...

Speaking of, tell me about that fancy wireless setup y'all sell... is it worth it? Is there a good way to listen to vinyl through it? Does it sound sweet?

It's pretty sweet, but it is intended for home theater use really.

You could hook a turntable into it, but you would need a phono preamp and the Summit transmitter box only has an 1/8" analog input, which admittedly is kinda lame.

If it were me I would get a pair of our Verus towers, they sound better anyway and you don't need a 5.1 set up to rock your vinyl. 
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 22, 2011, 12:45:50 AM
Quote from: Hicks on September 21, 2011, 11:43:47 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on September 21, 2011, 06:01:53 PM
You should start an "ask Mr. Guru" thread...

Speaking of, tell me about that fancy wireless setup y'all sell... is it worth it? Is there a good way to listen to vinyl through it? Does it sound sweet?

It's pretty sweet, but it is intended for home theater use really.

You could hook a turntable into it, but you would need a phono preamp and the Summit transmitter box only has an 1/8" analog input, which admittedly is kinda lame.

If it were me I would get a pair of our Verus towers, they sound better anyway and you don't need a 5.1 set up to rock your vinyl.

this is my dilemma - moving into a new house where the TV and the stereo must coexist in a single space. I would like to avoid having an extra set of speakers in the room just for vinyl.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Hicks on September 22, 2011, 01:23:43 AM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on September 22, 2011, 12:45:50 AM
Quote from: Hicks on September 21, 2011, 11:43:47 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on September 21, 2011, 06:01:53 PM
You should start an "ask Mr. Guru" thread...

Speaking of, tell me about that fancy wireless setup y'all sell... is it worth it? Is there a good way to listen to vinyl through it? Does it sound sweet?

It's pretty sweet, but it is intended for home theater use really.

You could hook a turntable into it, but you would need a phono preamp and the Summit transmitter box only has an 1/8" analog input, which admittedly is kinda lame.

If it were me I would get a pair of our Verus towers, they sound better anyway and you don't need a 5.1 set up to rock your vinyl.

this is my dilemma - moving into a new house where the TV and the stereo must coexist in a single space. I would like to avoid having an extra set of speakers in the room just for vinyl.

No problemo, integrate the Verus towers into a 5.1 system and then throw the receiver into two channel stereo when you are listening to records.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: mattstick on September 22, 2011, 06:10:02 AM

/me rocks 2.1 for lyphe!
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: tet on September 22, 2011, 11:50:54 AM
i'm going to be going to a much smaller and more streamlined setup when moving to our new place (hopefully soon).  i've done lots of research and listening, and decided on a set of 5 Orb speakers for surround, and keeping my Klipsch sub for some serious punch - just hoping a 12" sub can keep up!  i was surprised how awesome the Orbs sounded, but nothing beats that price for high quality surrounds, and popping them into 2.1 sounded fantastic too.  definitely not a true audiophile setup, but it's as good as i'm gonna have while living in a Manhattan apartment, and anyway I still have my Grados for some more oomph when i need it (those come right off my Bellari preamp so I always get a beautiful sound that way).  almost definitely upgrading a Marantz SR 6006 amp in the process as well, which will be a nice step up as well.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Marmar on November 01, 2011, 11:28:13 AM
I just scored a set of Polk Monitor 60's for mains, Monitor 40's for rears, a CS10 for the center and a pair of LSiFX dipole/bipole for my height speakers......

All for UNDER $1000....

Gotta love the internet!
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on November 01, 2011, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: Marmar on November 01, 2011, 11:28:13 AM
I just scored a set of Polk Monitor 60's for mains, Monitor 40's for rears, a CS10 for the center and a pair of LSiFX dipole/bipole for my height speakers......

All for UNDER $1000....

Gotta love the internet!
:crazy: :crazy: :clap:
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Marmar on November 01, 2011, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: aphineday on November 01, 2011, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: Marmar on November 01, 2011, 11:28:13 AM
I just scored a set of Polk Monitor 60's for mains, Monitor 40's for rears, a CS10 for the center and a pair of LSiFX dipole/bipole for my height speakers......

All for UNDER $1000....

Gotta love the internet!
:crazy: :crazy: :clap:

ya, im really excited to get it all set up....granted it won't even come close to my McIntosh's that were lost, but hell.....it's better than nothing.....
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: twatts on November 01, 2011, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: Marmar on November 01, 2011, 12:32:31 PM
McIntosh


Not sure what you are in the market for...  But there are always McIntosh's FS on Raleigh CL...

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/search/?areaID=36&subAreaID=&query=mcintosh&catAbb=sss

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/ele/2640038004.html
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/ele/2630080077.html
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/ele/2630527481.html
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/ele/2613023658.html

I can pick one up if you PP the loot and S&H...

Terry
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Marmar on November 06, 2011, 09:24:41 AM
Thanks Terry but I don't think you'll be seeing a set of XRT's popping up on craigslist any time soon.....and I doubt I'll ever find another deal like I had on them when I bought them for 1/3 the price.......new.....

All my "gear" was surprisingly ok after cleaning the living daylights outta it....lots of contact cleaner and wire drier did the trick....only had to replace the tube sockets on my preamp and my power amps, and one output transformer.....I got lucky there....but the speakers are what killed me....$100,000 set of speakers.... :(
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: ytowndan on November 08, 2011, 02:21:56 AM
What do you guys think about this table/cartridge?  What do you guys think is a good price?  Also, I'm particularly interested in when you would say "meh, it's not worth it" and walk away.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170724184769&category=48649&sspagename=rvireg:1:1&autorefresh=true (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170724184769&category=48649&sspagename=rvireg:1:1&autorefresh=true)
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: rowjimmy on November 08, 2011, 07:51:11 AM
Quote from: ytowndan on November 08, 2011, 02:21:56 AM
What do you guys think about this table/cartridge?  What do you guys think is a good price?  Also, I'm particularly interested in when you would say "meh, it's not worth it" and walk away.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170724184769&category=48649&sspagename=rvireg:1:1&autorefresh=true (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170724184769&category=48649&sspagename=rvireg:1:1&autorefresh=true)

I'm getting exactly that turntable from my grandparents' house (eventually.)
I've done some reading and some consider this the best of the Dual tts but there's always a variety of other opinions.

The 1219 was made in the early 70s. My Dual 506 was a late 70s model and I love it. I can't tell you how much is too much to pay but you can be sure that it's not gonna go for as cheap as it's currently running.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: roggae on November 08, 2011, 09:17:47 AM
Quote from: ytowndan on November 08, 2011, 02:21:56 AM
What do you guys think about this table/cartridge?  What do you guys think is a good price?  Also, I'm particularly interested in when you would say "meh, it's not worth it" and walk away.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170724184769&category=48649&sspagename=rvireg:1:1&autorefresh=true (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170724184769&category=48649&sspagename=rvireg:1:1&autorefresh=true)

I'd say now it's not worth it. I'm not an expert though I've had a record player in my system my entire life. The table I had the longest was a music hall 2.1. Upgrade the stock cartridge and you most likely will have your last turntable.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: mattstick on November 08, 2011, 10:09:58 AM

I have that same one, I paid $125 CAD.  Love it.

Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: ytowndan on November 08, 2011, 05:57:57 PM
Thanks for the input, guys.  I'm still gonna shop around, but I'll definitely keep my eye on this. 
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: twatts on November 08, 2011, 10:05:11 PM
Honestly, I won't buy stereo stuff off of ebay anymore, having been burned at least twice...

I do all my stereo shopping on Craigs List now...  That way I can see it/play it/listen to it before I buy it...  Being in RDU, there is a ton of good stuff real close though.  Depending on where you live, you might have to do some driving... 

For you YTown:

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=turntable&catAbb=ele&srchType=A&minAsk=&maxAsk=
http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=turntable&catAbb=ele&srchType=A&minAsk=&maxAsk=
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=turntable&catAbb=ele&srchType=A&minAsk=&maxAsk=
http://youngstown.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=turntable&catAbb=ele&srchType=A&minAsk=&maxAsk=

I see some Duals in there...  Just keep looking and one will pop up... 

Terry
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: ph92 on November 09, 2011, 12:01:45 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on November 08, 2011, 05:57:57 PM
Thanks for the input, guys.  I'm still gonna shop around, but I'll definitely keep my eye on this. 
That is a purdy looking piece of equipment.

As for me I might be in the market for a DAC for my stereo... anyone got any suggestions?
I dont really mind if it is a stereo component or a desktop model.

My setup would be:
Motherboard (optical) > DAC > Amp.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 12:13:07 PM
I need to invest in a pre-amp... any suggestions?
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: twatts on November 09, 2011, 01:40:07 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on November 09, 2011, 12:01:45 PM
DAC for my stereo...

My setup would be:
Motherboard (optical) > DAC > Amp.

http://www.nuforce.com/hp/products/iconhd/index.php
http://www.esi-audio.com/products/drdacprime/

I've wanted a Dr. Dac for well over a year now...  But I have other expenses first...

Terry
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: twatts on November 09, 2011, 01:44:28 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 12:13:07 PM
I need to invest in a pre-amp... any suggestions?

http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2641335879.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2670886047.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2624051074.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2639427540.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2667928904.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2634527151.html

There's a ton of good shit on Austin Craigs List...

http://austin.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=preamp&catAbb=ele&srchType=A&minAsk=&maxAsk=

Terry
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 01:49:43 PM
Maybe you misunderstood - I use a very inexpensive Sony TTable and have a pretty nice Marantz receiver that has no phono in. I just need a relatively cheap pre-amp.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: twatts on November 09, 2011, 02:17:10 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 01:49:43 PM
Maybe you misunderstood - I use a very inexpensive Sony TTable and have a pretty nice Marantz receiver that has no phono in. I just need a relatively cheap pre-amp.

Oh sorry...

http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Budget-Phono-Preamps

Terry
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: mbw on November 09, 2011, 02:32:12 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on November 09, 2011, 02:17:10 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 01:49:43 PM
Maybe you misunderstood - I use a very inexpensive Sony TTable and have a pretty nice Marantz receiver that has no phono in. I just need a relatively cheap pre-amp.

Oh sorry...

http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Budget-Phono-Preamps

Terry

i just bought this behringer: http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-PP400-Ultra-Compact-Phono-Preamp/dp/B000H2BC4E

it just arrived and i have to hook it up still.  but for $20.00 i figured what the hell.
i will report back on how it sounds.

i looked at those on needle doctor, but saving $60.00 seemed like the right move.
they used to have a $30-40 audio technica but it is gone now.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: twatts on November 09, 2011, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on November 09, 2011, 02:17:10 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 01:49:43 PM
Maybe you misunderstood - I use a very inexpensive Sony TTable and have a pretty nice Marantz receiver that has no phono in. I just need a relatively cheap pre-amp.

Oh sorry...

http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Budget-Phono-Preamps

Terry

Although for $100, you can just get a new Receiver that includes the phono preamp...

http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2691411837.html

Terry
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: twatts on November 09, 2011, 02:36:11 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on November 09, 2011, 02:32:12 PM

i just bought this behringer: http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-PP400-Ultra-Compact-Phono-Preamp/dp/B000H2BC4E


LMK how that works out for you...  I'm not a behringer fan... 

Terry

Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 03:34:32 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on November 09, 2011, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on November 09, 2011, 02:17:10 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 01:49:43 PM
Maybe you misunderstood - I use a very inexpensive Sony TTable and have a pretty nice Marantz receiver that has no phono in. I just need a relatively cheap pre-amp.

Oh sorry...

http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Budget-Phono-Preamps

Terry

Although for $100, you can just get a new Receiver that includes the phono preamp...

http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2691411837.html

Terry

I've got a 2-channel Onkyo that was perfect for a long time, but now the TTable and the TV are going to be in the same room, so I have to add the TTable to the Marantz and use the surround system to listen to vinyl. I can't have another amp and another set of speakers in the same room just for vinyl. The wife won't allow it (I asked).
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: mbw on November 09, 2011, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 03:34:32 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on November 09, 2011, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on November 09, 2011, 02:17:10 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 01:49:43 PM
Maybe you misunderstood - I use a very inexpensive Sony TTable and have a pretty nice Marantz receiver that has no phono in. I just need a relatively cheap pre-amp.

Oh sorry...

http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Budget-Phono-Preamps

Terry

Although for $100, you can just get a new Receiver that includes the phono preamp...

http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2691411837.html

Terry

I've got a 2-channel Onkyo that was perfect for a long time, but now the TTable and the TV are going to be in the same room, so I have to add the TTable to the Marantz and use the surround system to listen to vinyl. I can't have another amp and another set of speakers in the same room just for vinyl. The wife won't allow it (I asked).

im sure you can switch the marantz to 2 channel stereo, right?
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 03:50:54 PM
is this one good enough?

http://www.needledoctor.com/Bellari-VP-29-Phono-Preamp?sc=2&category=36638 (http://www.needledoctor.com/Bellari-VP-29-Phono-Preamp?sc=2&category=36638)
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: twatts on November 09, 2011, 04:03:24 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 03:50:54 PM
is this one good enough?

http://www.needledoctor.com/Bellari-VP-29-Phono-Preamp?sc=2&category=36638 (http://www.needledoctor.com/Bellari-VP-29-Phono-Preamp?sc=2&category=36638)

While I'm sure it works, I'm not a fan of Rolls...  I'd spend an extra $25 and get the Music Hall...

Terry
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 04:04:45 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on November 09, 2011, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 03:34:32 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on November 09, 2011, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on November 09, 2011, 02:17:10 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 01:49:43 PM
Maybe you misunderstood - I use a very inexpensive Sony TTable and have a pretty nice Marantz receiver that has no phono in. I just need a relatively cheap pre-amp.

Oh sorry...

http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Budget-Phono-Preamps

Terry

Although for $100, you can just get a new Receiver that includes the phono preamp...

http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2691411837.html

Terry

I've got a 2-channel Onkyo that was perfect for a long time, but now the TTable and the TV are going to be in the same room, so I have to add the TTable to the Marantz and use the surround system to listen to vinyl. I can't have another amp and another set of speakers in the same room just for vinyl. The wife won't allow it (I asked).

im sure you can switch the marantz to 2 channel stereo, right?

Of course, but it still doesn't have a phono-in so I need a pre-amp.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: twatts on November 09, 2011, 04:06:46 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 03:34:32 PM
marantz

What model number???

Terry
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on November 09, 2011, 04:03:24 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 03:50:54 PM
is this one good enough?

http://www.needledoctor.com/Bellari-VP-29-Phono-Preamp?sc=2&category=36638 (http://www.needledoctor.com/Bellari-VP-29-Phono-Preamp?sc=2&category=36638)

While I'm sure it works, I'm not a fan of Rolls...  I'd spend an extra $25 and get the Music Hall...

Terry

http://www.amazon.com/Music-Hall-PA1-2-Phono-Pre/dp/B002PSJVV4/ref=lh_ni_t (http://www.amazon.com/Music-Hall-PA1-2-Phono-Pre/dp/B002PSJVV4/ref=lh_ni_t)

What about this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006I5SB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006I5SB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER)
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Hicks on November 09, 2011, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on November 09, 2011, 04:03:24 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 03:50:54 PM
is this one good enough?

http://www.needledoctor.com/Bellari-VP-29-Phono-Preamp?sc=2&category=36638 (http://www.needledoctor.com/Bellari-VP-29-Phono-Preamp?sc=2&category=36638)

While I'm sure it works, I'm not a fan of Rolls...  I'd spend an extra $25 and get the Music Hall...

Terry

http://www.amazon.com/Music-Hall-PA1-2-Phono-Pre/dp/B002PSJVV4/ref=lh_ni_t (http://www.amazon.com/Music-Hall-PA1-2-Phono-Pre/dp/B002PSJVV4/ref=lh_ni_t)

What about this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006I5SB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006I5SB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

Shure is solid for needles. 
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 04:10:15 PM
Hicks, you're next, buddy!!! Need a new center channel and towers for this room!!
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: twatts on November 09, 2011, 04:28:33 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 04:07:25 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Music-Hall-PA1-2-Phono-Pre/dp/B002PSJVV4/ref=lh_ni_t (http://www.amazon.com/Music-Hall-PA1-2-Phono-Pre/dp/B002PSJVV4/ref=lh_ni_t)

I think Needle Doctor has the Music Hall for $100???  Maybe I saw it wrong...



Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 04:07:25 PM
What about this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006I5SB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006I5SB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

Oh shit...  You'll have to ask someone else about needles and tone arms!  I recommend this:  http://raleigh.craigslist.org/ele/2679655368.html

Terry
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Hicks on November 09, 2011, 04:33:22 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 04:10:15 PM
Hicks, you're next, buddy!!! Need a new center channel and towers for this room!!

Let's do this!    :rawk:
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: twatts on November 09, 2011, 04:41:23 PM
Quote from: Hicks on November 09, 2011, 04:33:22 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 04:10:15 PM
Hicks, you're next, buddy!!! Need a new center channel and towers for this room!!

Let's do this!    :rawk:

c - http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2692676161.html

r/l - http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2664875032.html

sub - http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/2691114746.html

Wow, Austin has a TON of good stuff on their CL!

Terry
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Caravan2001 on November 20, 2011, 01:25:33 AM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 09, 2011, 04:10:15 PM
Hicks, you're next, buddy!!! Need a new center channel and towers for this room!!

I can't tell you how stoked I am on the speaks I got from Hicks.....the towers are just insane.  I listened to the 24 bit FOB of the Gorge Rock and Roll last night and I might as well have been at The Gorge.....so sick PG, you won't be sorry.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: aphineday on January 14, 2013, 09:03:40 PM
Sweet thread bump time.
I bought this Numark direct drive used back when I started this thread.
It's been a good starter table, but its time to upgrade.
I also bought a cheap Audio Technica preamp, and am including it with the table I'm selling to a buddy.

Here's what I'm planning on going with, just wanted to get some input from all of you that know yo' shit!

(http://www.dougbradyhifi.com/images/product/medium/2181.jpg)

Pro-Ject RPM 1.3 Genie
Love the white color!

(http://hifiheaven.net/store/image/cache/data/Cambridge%20Audio/cambridge%20audio%20551p-500x500.jpg)

And for the preamp, the Cambridge Audio 551
I talked to my local guy about the Bellari, and he is under the firm impression that it's "a pile of shit".
I know a couple of you love yours, so I'm interested to know your feelings on this Cambridge preamp.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: mbw on January 14, 2013, 10:15:36 PM
looks pretty.  hope you dont mind dust.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Caravan2001 on January 14, 2013, 10:30:00 PM
Quote from: aphineday on January 14, 2013, 09:03:40 PM
Sweet thread bump time.
I bought this Numark direct drive used back when I started this thread.
It's been a good starter table, but its time to upgrade.
I also bought a cheap Audio Technica preamp, and am including it with the table I'm selling to a buddy.

Here's what I'm planning on going with, just wanted to get some input from all of you that know yo' shit!

(http://www.dougbradyhifi.com/images/product/medium/2181.jpg)

Pro-Ject RPM 1.3 Genie
Love the white color!

(http://hifiheaven.net/store/image/cache/data/Cambridge%20Audio/cambridge%20audio%20551p-500x500.jpg)

And for the preamp, the Cambridge Audio 551
I talked to my local guy about the Bellari, and he is under the firm impression that it's "a pile of shit".
I know a couple of you love yours, so I'm interested to know your feelings on this Cambridge preamp.

That TT looks great and the reviews on Needle Doctor are pretty solid.  One thing about those belt driven tt's is, do you have to change that belt to switch the RPM's?  How easy is that?  I switch between 33 and 45 a lot.  Also, is that a wear item?  I think Aug has a Pro-ject, maybe he can chime in.  Also, at that price point you could get a mint vintage table (Dual) so that might be worth looking into as well, but you'd need to be sure you were not getting stuck with someone else's problem, which is why new is good.  As far as the pre-amp, I love my Jolida JD-9 to death!
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Gundo on September 11, 2013, 04:02:16 PM
I left the trigger unpulled on the audio-technica 120 from a few weeks ago, and I'm glad I started reading this thread. Oh the lessons you learn along the way! Right now I have the Sony shitbox that Igbo raves about on the first page, and i'm chomping at the bit to upgrade. I'm also trying to be patient for the right price/quality to come around. That being said, what's your opinion on this table?
JVC QL-F4
http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/4051988479.html

I haven't found very many reviews on empire cartridges either.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: whatapiper on May 17, 2014, 09:02:11 PM
About to jump on some sweet looking ADS L780 II speakers which look in near perfect condition.  Everything I've read on these is A+ just curious if any paugers out there have used or been exposed to these before.  They retailed in the late 80's for around $800 and the local shop I've been browsing is doing 30% off used speakers.  They have them listed pre sale for $475 so I'd be looking at dropping around $330 on these.  They sounded absolutely amazing to my ears, any comments/advice? 
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: kellerb on May 17, 2014, 09:21:14 PM
Quote from: whatapiper on May 17, 2014, 09:02:11 PM
About to jump on some sweet looking ADS L780 II speakers which look in near perfect condition.  Everything I've read on these is A+ just curious if any paugers out there have used or been exposed to these before.  They retailed in the late 80's for around $800 and the local shop I've been browsing is doing 30% off used speakers.  They have them listed pre sale for $475 so I'd be looking at dropping around $330 on these.  They sounded absolutely amazing to my ears, any comments/advice?

Do they shoot lazers?  Ask Hicks.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: twatts on May 17, 2014, 09:38:05 PM
Quote from: whatapiper on May 17, 2014, 09:02:11 PM
About to jump on some sweet looking ADS L780 II speakers which look in near perfect condition.  Everything I've read on these is A+ just curious if any paugers out there have used or been exposed to these before.  They retailed in the late 80's for around $800 and the local shop I've been browsing is doing 30% off used speakers.  They have them listed pre sale for $475 so I'd be looking at dropping around $330 on these.  They sounded absolutely amazing to my ears, any comments/advice?

ADS speakers are great vintage German speakers...  Built to last a lifetime...  $330 might be a bit high, but if they come with the stands, I'd say they are worth it...

Terry

Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: whatapiper on May 18, 2014, 01:17:12 AM
Quote from: twatts on May 17, 2014, 09:38:05 PM
Quote from: whatapiper on May 17, 2014, 09:02:11 PM
About to jump on some sweet looking ADS L780 II speakers which look in near perfect condition.  Everything I've read on these is A+ just curious if any paugers out there have used or been exposed to these before.  They retailed in the late 80's for around $800 and the local shop I've been browsing is doing 30% off used speakers.  They have them listed pre sale for $475 so I'd be looking at dropping around $330 on these.  They sounded absolutely amazing to my ears, any comments/advice?

ADS speakers are great vintage German speakers...  Built to last a lifetime...  $330 might be a bit high, but if they come with the stands, I'd say they are worth it...

Terry

Stands included, and I did give hicks a text yesterday but the man is MIA.  :|
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: twatts on May 18, 2014, 01:21:19 AM
Quote from: whatapiper on May 18, 2014, 01:17:12 AM
Quote from: twatts on May 17, 2014, 09:38:05 PM
Quote from: whatapiper on May 17, 2014, 09:02:11 PM
About to jump on some sweet looking ADS L780 II speakers which look in near perfect condition.  Everything I've read on these is A+ just curious if any paugers out there have used or been exposed to these before.  They retailed in the late 80's for around $800 and the local shop I've been browsing is doing 30% off used speakers.  They have them listed pre sale for $475 so I'd be looking at dropping around $330 on these.  They sounded absolutely amazing to my ears, any comments/advice?

ADS speakers are great vintage German speakers...  Built to last a lifetime...  $330 might be a bit high, but if they come with the stands, I'd say they are worth it...

Terry

Stands included, and I did give hicks a text yesterday but the man is MIA.  :|

Low ball him at 300 and then see if he'll take 320...  I think you will be very happy...

I love vintage speakers...

Terry
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: whatapiper on May 18, 2014, 10:21:33 AM
Thanks, going to run over there today after work and see what I can do, pretty stoked! My wireless Zona's have been having channel issues for some time and I just stopped spinning vinyl in frustration about a week ago. My pretty records are collecting dust!
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: whatapiper on May 18, 2014, 07:38:08 PM
Beyond stoked, they accepted my $320 cash offer and with the stands. Turns out they wanted $40 for the stands but had the speakers displayed with them so I raised a little hell when the dude tried to dime me on them. False advertising! I'm feeling like I made out with a solid score. Happy Father's/early birthday for me!
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Augustus on May 18, 2014, 08:00:37 PM
Sweet!
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 02, 2014, 07:55:12 AM
Anyone have any experience/knowledge about these turntables

American Audio TTD-2400

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/z/dNAAAOSwPe1UKtnw/$_35.JPG)


Will it make much of a difference from an old Technics and is it worth $100?
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: mattstick on October 02, 2014, 08:04:48 AM

Looks like they sell for ~ €100 new so $100CAD seems like a good price.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 02, 2014, 09:06:50 AM
Quote from: mattstick on October 02, 2014, 08:04:48 AM

Looks like they sell for ~ €100 new so $100CAD seems like a good price.

Ok, but will it make much difference in the quality of my sound or am I just splitting hairs here.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Hicks on October 02, 2014, 09:16:38 AM
I would bet your vintage Technics is better built than that Technics 1200 knock off.

Spend the money on a new cart if you really have the upgrade itch. 
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: rowjimmy on October 02, 2014, 09:29:08 AM
Quote from: Hicks on October 02, 2014, 09:16:38 AM
I would bet your vintage Technics is better built than that Technics 1200 knock off.

Spend the money on a new cart if you really have the upgrade itch. 

This.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 02, 2014, 09:38:59 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 02, 2014, 09:29:08 AM
Quote from: Hicks on October 02, 2014, 09:16:38 AM
I would bet your vintage Technics is better built than that Technics 1200 knock off.

Spend the money on a new cart if you really have the upgrade itch. 

This.


That's kind of what I was wondering about.  I am currently using the Ortofon red, which I am pretty happy with.  Thanks for the input folks.  :beers:
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: jam> on October 03, 2014, 07:40:33 PM
This is not the exactly proper spot to post this but do any of you have an opinion on this vacuum tube preamp? It seems to be quite a value. http://www.haglabs.com/collections/phono-preamps/products/cornet3
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Buffalo Budd on March 12, 2015, 08:00:04 AM
So since I've saved about $500 up for the upcoming Dead shows but will not be making it, I've decided to splurge on a decent turntable. I have my eye set on a Pro-ject Carbon entry level but I was wondering if this is the best bang for my buck. I've been researching a bunch and all reviews point me to the Audio Technica AT-LP120 but I find it an ugly table. I want something that will sound as great as possible but also look classy as this is going in our living room and I don't plan on buying another one for many years.
A - Any suggestions on what my best option would be for $500 or less?
B - Would I be better off saving till I can drop $1,000 on one or is that money better off spent on my amp/speaker set up?
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: mbw on March 12, 2015, 08:29:09 AM
The new Teac table looks incredible, looks wise.  All of the sound reviews i have come across are positive as well.

http://www.teac.com/product/tn-300/
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: antelope19 on March 12, 2015, 08:36:23 AM
That's a nice looking table!
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Buffalo Budd on March 12, 2015, 10:14:37 AM
Thanks, I'll have to look into seeing if that's available in my neck of the woods.
Definitely a beautiful table.
Does anyone have any experience with Pro-ject? All I see are good reviews and the model I'm looking at comes with an Ortofon red so there's $100 right there.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: justjezmund on March 12, 2015, 11:44:28 AM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on March 12, 2015, 10:14:37 AM
Thanks, I'll have to look into seeing if that's available in my neck of the woods.
Definitely a beautiful table.
Does anyone have any experience with Pro-ject? All I see are good reviews and the model I'm looking at comes with an Ortofon red so there's $100 right there.

paging aug and aphineday.

those ortofons are so worth it alone.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Buffalo Budd on March 12, 2015, 11:50:52 AM
Quote from: justjezmund on March 12, 2015, 11:44:28 AM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on March 12, 2015, 10:14:37 AM
Thanks, I'll have to look into seeing if that's available in my neck of the woods.
Definitely a beautiful table.
Does anyone have any experience with Pro-ject? All I see are good reviews and the model I'm looking at comes with an Ortofon red so there's $100 right there.

paging aug and aphineday.

those ortofons are so worth it alone.

I already use an Ortofon red and it was worth every penny. I just want to have a turntable that I don't have to fiddle with every 6 months or so due to the belt slipping or the motor seizing. They're easy to fix but it's a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: mattstick on March 12, 2015, 12:23:50 PM

I worked for TEAC for several years, I wouldn't buy a TEAC.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Buffalo Budd on March 12, 2015, 12:32:57 PM
Quote from: mattstick on March 12, 2015, 12:23:50 PM

I worked for TEAC for several years, I wouldn't buy a TEAC.

Good to know, thanks.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: mattstick on March 12, 2015, 12:41:14 PM

I know you want something new, not vintage, but the next time you're in Toronto check this place out... it's a furniture store but they had all kinds of really high end vintage turntables for cheap:

http://www.gufffurniture.com

Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Buffalo Budd on March 12, 2015, 01:36:21 PM
Quote from: mattstick on March 12, 2015, 12:41:14 PM

I know you want something new, not vintage, but the next time you're in Toronto check this place out... it's a furniture store but they had all kinds of really high end vintage turntables for cheap:

http://www.gufffurniture.com

Should be there in April sometime and will definitely check it out. I'm not opposed to a vintage table as long as it's worthy of the price tag. I've thought about maybe a Technics 1200 but that could run me more in the $800 range and that would be lucky.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Augustus on March 12, 2015, 02:49:07 PM
I have the Pro-Ject Debut III and I love it.
Setup is super easy as is swapping out carts.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Buffalo Budd on March 12, 2015, 02:51:13 PM
Quote from: Augustus on March 12, 2015, 02:49:07 PM
I have the Pro-Ject Debut III and I love it.
Setup is super easy as is swapping out carts.

Good to hear, that's the model I'm looking at.
Looks super simple and I've yet to see a bad review when compared to other tables in it's price range.
But I'm really surprised at all the rave reviews of the AT-LP120.
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Buffalo Budd on December 06, 2016, 07:21:42 AM
For any Beatles fans out there looking for a new TT...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pro-ject-audio-systems-debut-carbon-esprit-sb-turntable-beatles-1964-edition-white-and-black/5655630.p?skuId=5655630#carousel-modal

(http://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/5655/5655630_sd.jpg;maxHeight=550;maxWidth=642)
Title: Re: New turntable/speakers
Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 14, 2017, 08:23:53 AM
Check out this beauty.
The guys is only asking $360 Canadian and it's pretty close to what I have, which I paid $1,000 for.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?adId=1312931256&utm_campaign=email_alerts&utm_medium=email&siteLocale=en_CA&utm_source=alerts&utm_campaign=email_alerts&utm_medium=email&utm_source=alerts (https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?adId=1312931256&utm_campaign=email_alerts&utm_medium=email&siteLocale=en_CA&utm_source=alerts&utm_campaign=email_alerts&utm_medium=email&utm_source=alerts)

(https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?adId=1312931256&utm_campaign=email_alerts&utm_medium=email&siteLocale=en_CA&utm_source=alerts&utm_campaign=email_alerts&utm_medium=email&utm_source=alerts)