Anyone going to pick one up tomorrow?
I don't have to go into the office so I'll be hitting my Rogers store some time before 10am when they open, hopefully there won't be any big lines or stupid Rogers problems...
yup, likely going to head on down to the Apple Cube at some point tomorrow afternoon. i have NO need to be there first thing in the morning, and i figure the line will have worked its way down by then. i may also just walk into a smaller Apple Store in NJ on Saturday morning and grab one without the hassle of a first day launch!
there's a small chance i wake up early tomorrow morning and go to the AT&T Store a few blocks away, but:
a) i don't think AT&T employees are as well trained or prepared as Apple employees
b) my guess is that Apple Stores will get more stock, and a place as huge as the Cube will probably have a few thousand of these in stock, if not more, so i can't imagine there will be a shortage of them any time soon.
c) i'd rather have the purchase done at an Apple Store. they can easily look shit up, it's all on my same Apple account... fewer hassles for the future
good luck with Rogers, they really tried to fuck you guys over with that awful data plan, but at least they've reached some sort of compromise now.
i'm anxiously awaiting the official OS 2.0 download (didn't grab the leaked link earlier today), which i've read has already been jailbroken and UNLOCKED!! that was my only hesitation to upgrading my current iPhone, but as long as i can have 1 legit iPhone 3G and 1 unlocked iPhone EDGE for my international travel, i'm in.
Do you have any idea how much data you use a month?
People wanted unlimited, but I think the data plans were pretty good. Certainly better than what I've got with my Blackberry right now.
well, i've owned my iPhone for just over 12 months now, and have around 1.7 GB of total data transferred over EDGE (it doesn't track Wifi anyway). so not a lot. i have 3 mail account that it checks every 30 minutes, and 2 of them get over 100 messages a day - and of course, all my internet browsing and maps/weather/stocks usage fits into there, of which i'd say the web is 10% of my overall bandwidth if i had to guess, the rest is minimal.
so there ya go - these plans with several hundred MB a month aren't that unrealistic...
well i was the next in line to go inside the store (decided to try the AT&T route this year), and the manager came out with an inventory update: only 11 16 gig Whites and 37 8 gig Blacks were left - no 16 gig Blacks, which is the only one i came there for! ARGGGHHHH!!!
3 hours in line for nothing... yippee!! thanks AT&T for always improving the customer experience!
i will likely just head over to The Cube a bit later and pick one up without hassle.
man, this sucked. how'd you fare?
this store had 14 phones and I'm probably going to get a white 16 but the Rogers system is crashed and the have sold 3 phones in 4 hours it's a shitstorm.
the problem seems to be the iTunes activation servers being completely overloaded.
this was a poorly conceived and executed launch... things were SO much easier last year (forgetting the fact that it took them 18 hours to activate my iPhone because of some weird AT&T glitch)
the problem here is the Rogers system
i'm in atlanta on business this week, and was thinking about heading up to the apple store here to grab my 3g phone, but i think i'm just gonna wait til i get home... i don't want the hassle while i'm on the road...
plus i think waiting till the madness of today is done will be better..
when is the 2.0 software for my 2.5g phone available for DL?
available as of this morning. Their activation servers have been hit hard, but it eventually works. I'm in The Cube right now, a few minutes until I'm 3G!
Sorry about all your troubles, Matt. Hopefully Rogers gets it straightened out soon, I'm sure everyone is pissed.
does anyone know... on the 3g shit... if you are not in a 3g area does it switch to EDGE or are you simply fucked?
i just thought about that, and if it doesn't switch over to EDGE thats stupid and i'm not buying... cuz its basically worthless in a lot of situations.
woohoo! 16GB white in my hands!
where do i DL the 2.0 update? itunes? its not showing up when i click "check for update"...
i went into the itunes store but don't see it there either...
HELP
Quote from: mattstick on July 11, 2008, 05:11:19 PM
woohoo! 16GB white in my hands!
:beers:
congrats dude! enjoy!!
Quote from: jedifunk on July 11, 2008, 05:23:09 PM
where do i DL the 2.0 update? itunes? its not showing up when i click "check for update"...
i went into the itunes store but don't see it there either...
HELP
you won't see it unless you're running iTunes 7.7, released yesterday. once that is installed, you should see the update by clicking on the same thing you're clicking on now.
Quote from: jedifunk on July 11, 2008, 04:41:52 PM
does anyone know... on the 3g shit... if you are not in a 3g area does it switch to EDGE or are you simply fucked?
i just thought about that, and if it doesn't switch over to EDGE thats stupid and i'm not buying... cuz its basically worthless in a lot of situations.
don't know if it auto-switches, but i'm sure it does. it fully supports EDGE though, that much i do know. there is even a setting (under "Network") where you can disable 3G to save battery power, and it switches to EDGE at that point.
i am running 7.7... and still nothing... restart my macbook? my iphone? i tried restarting itunes with no luck...
agggrr.. i want 2.0
ok... its all good... it finally recognized my phone.
i'm LOVING 2.0, these apps are awesome. the Remote Control for iTunes is just sick!!! makes my AirTunes 1000% more badass!
I heard that in Canada they make you sign a 3 year contract...is that true? Either way, who cares, you have the dopest phone around...congrats...I have to wait until September until my contract ends up, unless I wanna drop an xtra $200, which I don't......I mean, I do, but I won't.....
yup, 3 year contract but posting from the Jays/Yanks game is worth it.
lucky bastages...
Quote from: mattstick on July 11, 2008, 08:39:06 PM
yup, 3 year contract but posting from the Jays/Yanks game is worth it.
QFT.....I'm jealous :-)
Has anyone made Ringtones in the iTMS? I don't get how it works.
Quote from: mattstick on July 13, 2008, 01:40:45 AM
Has anyone made Ringtones in the iTMS? I don't get how it works.
you first have to buy the song, then buy the ringtone, and when you go thru that second step, it asks you to pick a 30 second clip from the song.
OK, so say I wanted to make a Shine ringtone, I go to the store and start to purchase Shine, when is it supposed to ask me if I want to buy a ringtone?
well I've given up on ringtones for now
Is it possible to change the bubble colors in SMS? That green is super ugly.
if you want matt... i've got like 3500+ mp3 ringtones that work with the iphone. including shine... oh wait, you meant trey's shine, not collective soul... lol
and where are all the good free apps? before the update i had my phone jailbroken and running all kinds of great easy to use apps...
now, in the app store, they are all way too expensive... like solitaire, i had a great version before, and all the solitaires in the store are like $4 or more, and none of them look nearly as good as the free one i had.
and i good dictionary/thesaurus... and tip calculator... and better camera app... and weather app, and on and on...
i'm not against paying for the apps, but really they shouldn't be more than like $2...
ok, so still no luck for me in getting mobileme up and running... i can't seem to get the update to show up in software update... anyone else having issues?
Quote from: jedifunk on July 13, 2008, 06:53:41 PM
ok, so still no luck for me in getting mobileme up and running... i can't seem to get the update to show up in software update... anyone else having issues?
i was on my MBP, then i just opened System Preferences to .Mac, let it sit for a few minutes and got a prompt that MobileMe is now ready for download. only then will it appear in your Software Update
Quote from: mattstick on July 13, 2008, 11:40:40 AM
OK, so say I wanted to make a Shine ringtone, I go to the store and start to purchase Shine, when is it supposed to ask me if I want to buy a ringtone?
in your Library, you find the file you just bought. if it's possible to make it into a ringtone, it will have a little bell icon to the right of the song name (you can see this before you purchase any track in the Store as well). click on that bell, and it'll pop up a little thing to edit down the clip you want. click Buy if you want to buy it.
Have you kids played on http://seeqpod.com ?
It's formatted for Safari on the iPhone and allows you to stream MP3s from thousands of artists, works well on 3G too.
pandora & last.fm iphone apps work really well too
yup, big fan of those, along with AOL Radio (it has better clarity than i can get from the local radio stations thru my car's antenna).
Shazam is just awesome for anyone who hasn't played with that. i was tagging shit from my records before, it was cool as hell!
From TUAW.com:
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After a fourteen-month wait, the iPhone is finally coming to Vermont.
"But isn't Vermont a part of the US?" you ask. Well yes, but AT&T -- the iPhone's exclusive carrier in the US -- has no wireless coverage in the Green Mountain State, so the iPhone has never officially been made available. Some enterprising Vermonters have set up blogs and even gone underground with their jailbroken iPhones, but that's all about to change.
Earlier this week, Vermont's WCAX TV reported that area providers Verizon and Unicel have merged, and AT&T will be awarded overlapping service areas to prevent a wireless monopoly in Vermont.
The wait is almost over, Vermonters! Now you can enjoy standing in long lines like the rest of us.
With the Sept.9th date confirmed for the next Apple event, do you think they are going to address the nothing-but-negative reviews the IPHONE 3G is getting? Think there will be a software update for it to allow better connectivity to the 3G network? I've also heard rumors about an app that will allow "Lower power usage" to extend battery life. Anyone esle care to make any predictions?
Mine is that they will be releasing a much larger capacity IPOD touch and the older ones will drop in price considerably.
Mac Mini update!!!
it will not concern the iphone in any way
Can I say this again?
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 03, 2008, 10:07:36 AM
Mac Mini update!!!
SER.
Bring BluRay to the macs from the top-down please...
I wish there was some kind of PHP forums app... just log into your favorite forums and it makes searching/posting/reading a lot easier.
That button to show the last post of a topic is pretty small on the iPhone.
Quote from: mattstick on September 04, 2008, 05:45:58 PM
I wish there was some kind of PHP forums app... just log into your favorite forums and it makes searching/posting/reading a lot easier.
That button to show the last post of a topic is pretty small on the iPhone.
Write one?
hmmmmm. Can I write it in Basic?
Objective C only, i believe.
though if i could write one in LOGO, that would be cool.
I've had mine for almost a week now and just found out that my voicemail does not work. I set up the greeting and password for it but it doesnt seem to be activated. I called my phone from my house and tried to leave a voicemail and it said that there is no box for that number. Do I have to call ATT to set it up or something?
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Remember all those people who camped out and waited in line at Apple stores to be among the first to snag an iPhone?
Well, that novelty and feeling of smug superiority might soon wear off if the rumors are true that Apple (AAPL, news, msgs) may sell its sleek smart phone at Wal-Mart Stores
I was surprised when I heard the buzz. Isn't Wal-Mart, the discount behemoth with more than 2,500 homogeneous big-box stores in the United States, the antithesis of everything the unique, design-focused Apple brand stands for?
Officials at Apple in Cupertino, Calif., were of no help in confirming the story, but that's to be expected. Apple spokesman Steve Dowling declined to comment.
Even so, it does appear that the company, and its service and distribution partner AT&T (T, news, msgs) will be selling the iPhone at Wal-Mart, possibly by the end of this month, analysts say.
Some people are unbelievable.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1786497
Quote from: shoreline99 on December 17, 2008, 04:36:29 PM
Some people are unbelievable.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1786497
"yeah hon, i didn't mean to stick my dick in her - i tripped on a crack in the sidewalk and it just fell in!!"
the thing i found interesting about that is that out of the 15 or so responses, at least 90% of them were from people who had either 1 or 2 total posts on apple...
weird
Ok, so I have been given the responsibility of shopping for a new family plan in the new year for me and mine. We are currently with Verizon and have been pretty happy and I have heard alot of complaints about the ATT network or lack thereof. Has anyone made the switch from ATT to Verizon or vice-versa? I am just curious as to how much of a drop off there actually is. And yes, the main reason I would even consider making a switch is for the iphone.
i'll be honest... i had sprint before i got the iphone, and i never had a single complaint with drop calls or the network.
now, with at&t, over the last 1.5 yrs with the iphone, i've had a few dropped calls for sure.... but still nothing that i would complain about. maybe 1 per month, maybe less than that.
there are times when the edge network really sucks, or has no connection... which can be a pain because its usually when i really need to use it.
overall, its an acceptable network... i've never had verizon so i can't comment on whether or not its better
In the DC region, Verizon is king.
I have tmobile for work and so I literally carry a network comparison with me everywhere I go. The gsm/gprs/edge coverage I get from tmobile is strong when I get any signal at all but Verizon goes far more places.
Verizon works underground in the metro. Verizon works through more of the remote portions of Quantico through which my train passes as we follow the river home. If you never leave the city, both are probably fine. It's the coverage outside of the city that you should look into.
(btw, t-mobile roams on at&t & vice versa so, while they aren't exactly the same... they pretty much are.)
Thanks for the input fellas. I'm gonna keep researching.
Figure I can join the thread now as I just got home with my 8GB phone that is synching right now. Already have some apps due to my wife's iPod touch, but need to figure out what to get from the essential apps discussion. Very excited, been wanting one for a while.
Taken from TUAW:
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More rumors on the Verizon-iPhone front
by Michael Rose on Apr 27th 2009
If USA Today says it, it must be truthy -- hence the enthusiasm for today's report that sources close to the discussions are confirming an ongoing confab between Apple and Verizon on the topic of bringing everyone's favorite smartphone to America's most popular cell carrier. The future prospect of a Verizon iPhone, originally rumored and countermanded for this year, has perked up the ears of AT&T naysayers around the USA.
Although the paper cites Verizon's CDMA network as the target for the iPhone deployment option, most other observers (including Verizon executives) have noted the upcoming LTE/4G network, built atop the GSM standard that the iPhone already knows and loves, as the likely deployment environment. Robert swooned over the possibility of an LTE-enabled iPhone back in February; of course, way back in 2007, Verizon's attitude towards Apple's phone was far less conciliatory.
Even though AT&T is eager to hold onto its exclusive deal for iPhone in the US as long as it can -- and there's plenty of financial motivation already -- there's enough meat to this report to make me believe that Verizon-Apple negotiations are more than a stick to push the incumbent carrier toward a better deal. Getting earlier access to LTE (AT&T's buildout is at least a year behind VZW's) and more domestic options for the phone would be a win for Apple, as would a more generous revenue sharing plan with AT&T.
What's not clear to me is the percentage of would-be iPhone buyers who have so far avoided the phone because of carrier exclusivity and the two-year contract requirement. If having Verizon as a choice would flip you from the 'no' to the 'heck yeah' column, pipe up.
If the iPhone comes to Verizon, it will be a no-brainer for me. I'll wait in line on day one.
i will be switching to verizon the day that i can
an update from yesterday's story:
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More rumors: Verizon + Apple frenzy grows with BW story
by Megan Lavey on Apr 28th, 2009
In addition to the earlier reports regarding a potential alliance between Apple and Verizon, BusinessWeek has released a story where Verizon Wireless CEO Lowell McAdam reveals that he has been in discussion with Steve Jobs in the past six months.
The result, the magazine claims, could be two iPhone-like devices using Verizon's CDMA network. One would be a lite version of the iPhone, the other a 7" screen "media pad" -- which would let users listen to music, view photos and high-def videos and place calls over WiFi. The media pad, according to BusinessWeek, is supposed to be smaller than Amazon's Kindle, but with a bigger touchscreen. The so-called iPhone lite would be smaller and thinner than the existing handset. One of these devices could be introduced as early as this summer.
It's not clear if either or both of these hypothetical devices would get around the AT&T exclusivity for the iPhone by being 'different enough' from the existing model. Still, the media pad concept aligns nicely with reports from manufacturers that a new portable product is in the works.
This summer!?! That would be SICK!!!!!!
I don't think I like that so much.
what i could see happening is that at&t keeps the iphone till the end of their deal... and verizon gets the tablet and iphone lite or whatever they call it.
I'll remain open to it until I see said device.
ehh, not me... netbooks are stupid. especially since i can most of what they do with my iphone... adn what i can't, i can do with my macbook (which really isn't much bigger than a netbook, and is vastly superior)
Well, the article presented an either or situation which is why I'll wait and see which they are actually gonna produce.
Word is, we're looking at a $149 or $99 iPhone.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c9169840-5157-11de-84c3-00144feabdc0.html
three tiers most likely...
$99 - likely 8GB
$199 - likely 16GB
$299 - 32GB
i'm cool with that... since i planned on getting the next latest and greatest with my contract up in 3 days! :banana:
i am downloading the update right now :-)
i have already successfully installed the update on the original iphone
Well, even if I wanted to I won't be able to upgrade to the 3GS until July 11, 2010.
but you can install the new 3.0 software update matt... and you should do it RIGHT NOW.
its super dope
That is in the plans for tonight.
for update 3.0 -
for me says the iphone activation server is temporarily down.
figures
downloaded it tho..
is your phone bricked then?
downloading, says 4.5 hours more to go, must be getting slammed.
3G S arrives tomorrow or Friday!!! Please be early. I can't wait, so much to check out. I'm going from the old school 5G ipod and a shit-ass nextel (I've had the service for nearly 10 years with only a few low problem areas that always have been on my ride home from work) I only got 2 brand new phones and have had 4 total. This last one I have to talk on speaker it's so fukt. Anyway, it's going to be strange to be able to do all I can do on that device.
Phish and a new 3Gs in the next 4 days. Looking mighty fine.
Updating my touch...
Psyched.
2 more hours still on the download. Been going for 2 already
Cut & Paste = awesome
Search = awesome
Quote from: jephrey on June 17, 2009, 10:03:57 PM
3G S arrives tomorrow or Friday!!! Please be early. I can't wait, so much to check out. I'm going from the old school 5G ipod and a shit-ass nextel (I've had the service for nearly 10 years with only a few low problem areas that always have been on my ride home from work) I only got 2 brand new phones and have had 4 total. This last one I have to talk on speaker it's so fukt. Anyway, it's going to be strange to be able to do all I can do on that device.
Phish and a new 3Gs in the next 4 days. Looking mighty fine.
You'll be hooked up. :beers:
Quote from: jedifunk on June 17, 2009, 08:02:12 PM
is your phone bricked then?
nah my phone wasnt bricked, thankfully, i was reading about that happening to people. Wasnt sure if they were talking about purchased iphones today or past owners (like myself)
After i got out of work i tried installing the update again and it worked. Damn cluttered servers.
QuoteLawmakers yesterday waded into a growing debate on whether the practice of locking in cellphones to exclusive contracts with only one carrier has led to higher prices and fewer choices for consumers and stifled competition in one of the economy's brightest spots -- the wireless industry.
The Senate Commerce Committee met ahead of Apple's debut tomorrow of its latest version of the iPhone. Critics say the company will once again irritate people who want the gadget but are not subscribers of the company's exclusive partner, AT&T. A similar fate awaits those who want the Palm Pre phone but don't subscribe to Sprint Nextel service, or the new phone running Google Android software and don't get T-Mobile service.
read on for more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/17/AR2009061703546.html
:banana:
woot woot! new 3GS up and running like a champ! AT&T sucks balls, and made the process more difficult for me, but in the end all is well.
alpine is gonna rule with this new phone!
Quote from: jedifunk on June 19, 2009, 10:41:56 AM
:banana:
woot woot! new 3GS up and running like a champ! AT&T sucks balls, and made the process more difficult for me, but in the end all is well.
alpine is gonna rule with this new phone!
jeditube?
:wink:
what and kill my battery? ;)
maybe, if i decide to get stubbed down in the pavilion.
the phone is super fast compared to my original one... and i'm not even talking about the 3G, just the processor. apps open way faster.
the video portion looks really great actually, and is fast and VERY easy to use and edit. perhaps i'll post a few vids to the paug at the show. i doubt i'll stream, but i could upload a couple.
Quote from: jedifunk on June 19, 2009, 10:41:56 AM
:banana:
woot woot! new 3GS up and running like a champ! AT&T sucks balls, and made the process more difficult for me, but in the end all is well.
alpine is gonna rule with this new phone!
Bastard! I was too late. Every Apple store and AT&T store in metro Detroit is out of phones. When did you get yours?
i was in line at 6:30am ... store opened at 7am... i was number 11 in line! had it up and running by 8am.
shit is dope! the camera on this is 1000% better than the previous one... auto focus kicks ass... and doing video, and editing it right on the phone is awesome!
My first experiences with the thing are overly positive. I found some addictive games already - something I'd never thought I'd use it much for.
I'm still gaga over the look and feel of it. My first handheld PC.
just got a 32 3gs and holy shit, very nice!
my problem is i cant drag songs from my library into the iphone, so as far as i know is synching the only way?
Quote from: whatapiper on June 27, 2009, 01:17:32 AM
just got a 32 3gs and holy shit, very nice!
my problem is i cant drag songs from my library into the iphone, so as far as i know is synching the only way?
That's the only way I know of doing it.
Quote from: whatapiper on June 27, 2009, 01:17:32 AM
just got a 32 3gs and holy shit, very nice!
my problem is i cant drag songs from my library into the iphone, so as far as i know is synching the only way?
when you plug it into itunes, on the first tab for syncing options (i think its called info), at the bottom you have to check the box next to "manual update songs & videos"
then you can drag and drop
:beers:
Quote from: jedifunk on June 27, 2009, 11:00:53 AM
Quote from: whatapiper on June 27, 2009, 01:17:32 AM
just got a 32 3gs and holy shit, very nice!
my problem is i cant drag songs from my library into the iphone, so as far as i know is synching the only way?
when you plug it into itunes, on the first tab for syncing options (i think its called info), at the bottom you have to check the box next to "manual update songs & videos"
then you can drag and drop
thanks, basically just like an iPod then
so without me reading this thread can someone answer me this? Now that the new iPhones are out do the people with the older versions get some type of free/discounted upgrade?
Quote from: whyweigh3.5 on June 30, 2009, 12:52:34 AM
so without me reading this thread can someone answer me this? Now that the new iPhones are out do the people with the older versions get some type of free/discounted upgrade?
depends on your current contract... i got the subsidized price since i still had the original 2g iphone... some 3g customers also qualified, but not many
I thought I heard they opened it up a bit for current 3G owners. I got the 32G also. Now I don't look like a douche with a huge phone and 60G ipod classic in my pocket along with 12 inches of limp dick.
I have a 16gig iPhone. But its fairly new... maybe 5 months old..
the jailbreak for my itouch was too easy...
/just sayin
i'm starting to wonder if apple really cares about the jailbreaks anymore...
btw, what does jailbreaking your touch get you?
Alternative appstore, for one; without the apple "approval" constraints.
Also, there's other benefits... certain freedoms
thanks for that amazingly vague response rj ;)
I think you know what I'm talking about.
Has anyone d/l the camera upgrades, any feedback on overall improvement?
Quote from: whatapiper on July 11, 2009, 12:51:09 PM
Has anyone d/l the camera upgrades, any feedback on overall improvement?
Where's the camera upgrades?
the "upgrade" is only 3GS... it adds auto focus and auto exposure...
and yes, it makes a dramatic difference... i did some side by side comparisons with my sister in laws 3G and my 3GS, and my pictures were far and away the better
Quote from: jedifunk on July 11, 2009, 01:12:54 PM
the "upgrade" is only 3GS... it adds auto focus and auto exposure...
and yes, it makes a dramatic difference... i did some side by side comparisons with my sister in laws 3G and my 3GS, and my pictures were far and away the better
Since I just bought the 3G, I likely have the upgrade, right? Whatever the case, I am very impressed with the auto focus.
well judging from your video in the other thread, i just bought the 3GS not the 3G and so yes, you have the auto focus.
its a much better image capture experience
turn your iphone into a DSLR....
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/?p=20846
pretty neato read.
Anyone here use the eye-fi app? I was reading about it last night and it sounds pretty sweet. It's yet another reason I can't wait for Verizon to get the iphone.
Can you dl adobe? I tried from the phone and that didn't work, is there an app?
For our friends to the North:
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The iPhone was slow to launch in Canada and after a rocky start, Rogers has been the exclusive carrier. That changed this week when Bell and Telus both announced independent deals with Apple. Starting in November, each will carry the 3G an 3GS. Just in time for holiday shopping!
Keen customers know that both Bell and Telus are CDMA-only right now. However, they've both pledged to deploy compatible HSPA networks that will serve as an inroad to 4G.
Neither company has released details like pricing, plans, etc., but Telus has set up a web page for interested customers.
Oh, yeah....
I'm on Rogers, so it doesn't affect me - but I bet we'll see reduced rates because of the competition...
Yes. My excitement over it is that Verizon runs the same tech as Bell and Telus.
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 07, 2009, 11:07:35 AM
Yes. My excitement over it is that Verizon runs the same tech as Bell and Telus.
That was my first thought, but it said that both Bell and Telus will be rolling out new networks to be compatible with the current iphone. So I don't think this little blurb indicates anything about a Verizon Iphone, unless I'm missing something, which is always a distinct possibility.
Verizon has been making movement towards the mainstream technologies as well. CDMA won't be even remotely competitive for much longer and they've been bringing on more and more multiband phones to bridge the gap (as well as to lure people who leave the US with their phones because CDMA is virtually non-existent in Europe and Africa.
I guess that would fall under the "I'm missing something" category I guess. :-D
:Has had fingers crossed for a Verizon iphone since last year:
I had a discussion with the GF last night about making ringtones for the iphone.
Is this still possible? And can you make them your ringtone on the iphone?
Quote from: mattstick on August 20, 2007, 07:45:10 AM
1. Choose the song you want as your ringtone
2. In iTunes, right-click and choose Get Info
3. Under Options set the appropriate start and end times for your ringtone, then hit OK
4. Preview your new ringtone by playing the song in iTunes
5. In iTunes, choose Preferences > Advanced > Importing
6. Customize the MP3 encoding options for your phone - I use 160kbps Mono
7. Right-click the song, and choose "convert selection to MP3"
8. iTunes will now encode only the region of the track that you have chosen in step 3, and create a new MP3 file
9. Find your new MP3 in the Finder or Windows Explorer and copy it to your desktop or whatever - tada brand new ringtone!
Don't forget to remove the new file you've created from your Library, and undo the Options settings in step 3.
Actually, it would also be nice to know if this still works because I could potentially put together an Oswego SBD compilation based on the Bonnaroo DLs and this most recent festivalography(although, admittedly, I haven't heard the oswego footage yet)
Quote from: antelope19 on October 20, 2009, 10:30:35 AM
I had a discussion with the GF last night about making ringtones for the iphone.
Is this still possible? And can you make them your ringtone on the iphone?
Quote from: mattstick on August 20, 2007, 07:45:10 AM
1. Choose the song you want as your ringtone
2. In iTunes, right-click and choose Get Info
3. Under Options set the appropriate start and end times for your ringtone, then hit OK
4. Preview your new ringtone by playing the song in iTunes
5. In iTunes, choose Preferences > Advanced > Importing
6. Customize the MP3 encoding options for your phone - I use 160kbps Mono
7. Right-click the song, and choose "convert selection to MP3"
8. iTunes will now encode only the region of the track that you have chosen in step 3, and create a new MP3 file
9. Find your new MP3 in the Finder or Windows Explorer and copy it to your desktop or whatever - tada brand new ringtone!
Don't forget to remove the new file you've created from your Library, and undo the Options settings in step 3.
You'd need an App like iToner to add the MP3 as a ringtone on your iPhone, which is kind of a pain in the ass.
If you have a Mac, use Garageband:
http://lifehacker.com/334073/create-custom-iphone-ringtones-the-free-and-apple-way
Quote from: antelope19 on October 20, 2009, 10:51:41 AM
Actually, it would also be nice to know if this still works because I could potentially put together an Oswego SBD compilation based on the Bonnaroo DLs and this most recent festivalography(although, admittedly, I haven't heard the oswego footage yet)
It took me forever to figure out what you're talking about.
Yes, it works - they* removed frames from the time, so you have to goto the second now, but yes - it works.
Quote from: mattstick on October 20, 2009, 12:21:36 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 20, 2009, 10:51:41 AM
Actually, it would also be nice to know if this still works because I could potentially put together an Oswego SBD compilation based on the Bonnaroo DLs and this most recent festivalography(although, admittedly, I haven't heard the oswego footage yet)
It took me forever to figure out what you're talking about.
Yes, it works - the removed frames from the time, so you have to goto the second now, but yes - it works.
heh,
sorry I wasn't clearer.
Quote
AT&T not happy with Verizon ads: 'There's a lawsuit for that'
Stung by some pretty aggressive advertising by Verizon, AT&T has had enough and is suing the communications giant for false and misleading claims.
AT&T says the ads, which show that AT&T has poor 3G coverage compared to Verizon are causing it to lose "incalculable market share."
According to the lawsuit which AT&T filed in Atlanta federal court, a recently broadcast ad campaign shows maps with white spaces that mislead consumers into thinking AT&T has no network coverage outside of areas where it offers high-speed mobile services, known as 3G.
But AT&T argued that its customers can "fully use their wireless devices outside of a '3G' coverage area and undisputedly have coverage in areas depicted by white or blank spaces on the maps used in Verizon's advertisements."
Verizon says the lawsuit has no merit, and Verizon Wireless spokeswoman Nancy Stark said the ads "clearly state" that voice and data services are available outside 3G areas. She said the ads were intended to tell consumers about coverage for smartphones, which are used for data services.
truth hurts doesnt it ;)
The ads do clearly say that they're comparing 3g coverage, right? What's the problem?
Genuinely curious.
Quote from: Alumni on November 04, 2009, 11:26:17 AM
The ads do clearly say that they're comparing 3g coverage, right? What's the problem?
Genuinely curious.
You didn't read the last paragraph, did you? :-)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2642/4057275481_ccb3d8583a_o.png) (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2642/4057275481_ccb3d8583a_o.png)
Smartphone TCO chart.
(click to enlarge)
Quote from: antelope19 on November 04, 2009, 12:10:42 PM
You didn't read the last paragraph, did you? :-)
No, I did. :-P
I'm just not sympathetic to ATT. Maybe it's from personal experience with the old ATT Wireless.
Either way, expecting not to get hammered by Verizon on network quality is silly. Of course that's what VZW is going to promote. ATT's job is to come up with some other reason why people should do business with them. Like data speeds.
Do something creative and think of a situation where there is a real benefit to the higher speed on their network. And then promote
that. Don't waste $$ on some DOA lawsuit. :)
http://gizmodo.com/5399850/verizon-wireless-launches-three-more-anti+att-3g-network-commercials
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 09, 2009, 11:39:05 AM
http://gizmodo.com/5399850/verizon-wireless-launches-three-more-anti+att-3g-network-commercials
Saw the misfit toys spot during MNF. It's really pretty good. I'd say it's better than "there's a map for that."
Methinks AT&T is kind of playing with fire.
That said, there's a fine line between funny and annoying. We'll see how long Verizon stays on the right side...
I just went to the Verizon store today and played around with the new Droid. Pretty slick little phone. You all should go check it out.
anyone have issues with
a) easy example is when you click the scroll bar on the paug to go from "general topic" to "on phish tour" or wherever, when i first got the phone all the forums were there to scroll, now my only option is the forum im already in? any ideas?
b) easy example again b/c of the paug, if i quote someone then want to type i cant scroll down once within the dialogue box, any way to scroll down, this happens to me on other websites as well, just not the same context
Quote from: whatapiper on November 13, 2009, 01:32:16 AM
anyone have issues with
a) easy example is when you click the scroll bar on the paug to go from "general topic" to "on phish tour" or wherever, when i first got the phone all the forums were there to scroll, now my only option is the forum im already in? any ideas?
b) easy example again b/c of the paug, if i quote someone then want to type i cant scroll down once within the dialogue box, any way to scroll down, this happens to me on other websites as well, just not the same context
I've def. experienced "B"
I just figured out "a", if I click the topic in the scroll menu rather than the arrow, my only option is that particular category, but when I click the arrow all forums are there.
A friend of my wife just got a 3gs and her maps app is a bit different, she has an icon of a person where you can click and then it shows you the up to date satelite photos, mine does not and I'm updated
Quote from: whatapiper on November 13, 2009, 02:13:44 PM
I just figured out "a", if I click the topic in the scroll menu rather than the arrow, my only option is that particular category, but when I click the arrow all forums are there.
A friend of my wife just got a 3gs and her maps app is a bit different, she has an icon of a person where you can click and then it shows you the up to date satelite photos, mine does not and I'm updated
mine does this, and its updated.
Someone needs to write a PHP forums app that makes forum posting easier/better on the iPhone.
Quote from: antelope19 on November 10, 2009, 04:43:02 PM
I just went to the Verizon store today and played around with the new Droid. Pretty slick little phone. You all should go check it out.
Interesting that no one has said anything about the Droid. Everything I've read online has been positive and that it's the first phone to give the iphone a run for its money.
Does it have access to the App Store?
~end discussion~
Quote from: mattstick on November 13, 2009, 03:20:11 PM
Does it have access to the App Store?
~end discussion~
:roll:
All I was saying is that it has some serious potential.
It's cool, but the iPhone is more than just the hardware now.
yes, the droid will access the android app store, and all 10,000 apps... (iphone store has 100,000)
i think within 3 yrs the android platform will be bigger than the iphone.... but that's ok, cuz apple will still be making the best product so i won't care
Quote from: jedifunk on November 13, 2009, 07:10:22 PM
i think within 3 yrs the android platform will be bigger than the iphone.... but that's ok, cuz apple will still be making the best product so i won't care
Not to mention that in 3 years the divorce paperwork will be processed and Apple will be out of its marriage with AT&T. :D
Apple wants out?
i guarantee before the end of 2010 that the iphone will be on verizon
Quote from: whatapiper on November 14, 2009, 12:25:58 AM
Apple wants out?
I don't think it's a secret. Faithful readers of Apple blogs can probably point to posts better than I can.
Some folks are completely happy & have no issue with AT&T. But there are lots people who aren't.
It looks like a one-sided relationship. Apple is AT&T's sugar daddy. AT&T...well...they're not exactly Apple's trophy wife.
[/sexist analogy]
Quote from: jedifunk on November 13, 2009, 07:10:22 PM
yes, the droid will access the android app store, and all 10,000 apps... (iphone store has 100,000)
Those 7,000 fart apps really are the deal-maker for me.
dont worry they'll all be on android soon enough
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 16, 2009, 01:19:37 PM
Quote from: jedifunk on November 13, 2009, 07:10:22 PM
yes, the droid will access the android app store, and all 10,000 apps... (iphone store has 100,000)
Those 7,000 fart apps really are the deal-maker for me.
And to think we used to use armpits and/or beans. Farts are funny no matter the source
unless it's a vagina... not during sex. :|
Quote from: jephrey on November 16, 2009, 09:31:18 PM
unless it's a vagina... not during sex. :|
That's not a fart.
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 16, 2009, 09:33:23 PM
Quote from: jephrey on November 16, 2009, 09:31:18 PM
unless it's a vagina... not during sex. :|
That's not a fart.
It stops being funny when it comes out of your vagina
Quote from: jedifunk on November 04, 2009, 11:18:52 AM
truth hurts doesnt it ;)
Wow. That was prescient. :-D
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/16/verizon-responds-to-atandts-map-for-that-lawsuit-the-truth-hurt/
Well, AT&T's request for a temporary injunction against Verizon was rejected. Per Engadget, the actual legal showdown is scheduled for 12/16. FYI to folks who enjoy courtroom drama. I think the odds are with VZW, but I expect they'll blanket the airwaves between now and 12/16 anyway, just to be safe.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/18/atandt-loses-request-for-injunction-against-verizons-map-for-that/
Quote from: antelope19 on November 04, 2009, 10:39:06 AM
Quote
AT&T not happy with Verizon ads: 'There's a lawsuit for that'
Stung by some pretty aggressive advertising by Verizon, AT&T has had enough and is suing the communications giant for false and misleading claims.
AT&T says the ads, which show that AT&T has poor 3G coverage compared to Verizon are causing it to lose "incalculable market share."
According to the lawsuit which AT&T filed in Atlanta federal court, a recently broadcast ad campaign shows maps with white spaces that mislead consumers into thinking AT&T has no network coverage outside of areas where it offers high-speed mobile services, known as 3G.
But AT&T argued that its customers can "fully use their wireless devices outside of a '3G' coverage area and undisputedly have coverage in areas depicted by white or blank spaces on the maps used in Verizon's advertisements."
Verizon says the lawsuit has no merit, and Verizon Wireless spokeswoman Nancy Stark said the ads "clearly state" that voice and data services are available outside 3G areas. She said the ads were intended to tell consumers about coverage for smartphones, which are used for data services.
Quit spending the money I'm sending you every month on this shit.
* Although I have been pleased with my bill of late... Pretty damn reasonable for having a computer in my pocket.
**You really just can't beat the iPhone. It's friggin fantastic.
Quote from: jephrey on November 20, 2009, 12:32:42 AM
Quit spending the money I'm sending you every month on this shit.
* Although I have been pleased with my bill of late... Pretty damn reasonable for having a computer in my pocket.
**You really just can't beat the iPhone. It's friggin fantastic.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/28/att-stops-selling-iphones_n_404801.html
Quote
AT&T is trying to keep would-be New York iPhone-owners from talking.
As Consumerist first reported, the phone company has banned sales of the Apple iPhone to metropolitan-area residents on its website.
Customers who attempt to order the phone from a zip code in the New York City, Westchester County, or New Jersey suburban areas receive a message saying, "Sorry this Package is not available in your area."
Checking on the veracity of the claims that this was only happening to local residents, blogger Laura Northrup called AT&T sales support and was told that "New York is not ready for the iPhone" by a company representative.
The same rep confirmed that the phone is "not available to people anywhere in the city."
Despite the unavailability of the phone on the AT&T website, New Yorkers still looking for an iPhone can still go to an Apple or AT&T store to purchase the smart phone.
This isn't going to look good when Apple & AT&T need to talk contracts...
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 28, 2009, 12:20:44 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/28/att-stops-selling-iphones_n_404801.html
Quote
AT&T is trying to keep would-be New York iPhone-owners from talking.
As Consumerist first reported, the phone company has banned sales of the Apple iPhone to metropolitan-area residents on its website.
Customers who attempt to order the phone from a zip code in the New York City, Westchester County, or New Jersey suburban areas receive a message saying, "Sorry this Package is not available in your area."
Checking on the veracity of the claims that this was only happening to local residents, blogger Laura Northrup called AT&T sales support and was told that "New York is not ready for the iPhone" by a company representative.
The same rep confirmed that the phone is "not available to people anywhere in the city."
Despite the unavailability of the phone on the AT&T website, New Yorkers still looking for an iPhone can still go to an Apple or AT&T store to purchase the smart phone.
This isn't going to look good when Apple & AT&T need to talk contracts...
:?
Unreal.
SER.
Verizon is probably calling Apple right... about... now!
Update:
Apparently, this began last week.
Sales are back on as of this afternoon.
Quote
I caught this back when Steve Jobs said it on stage at the event a few weeks ago, and I was surprised that more people hadn't yet. Jobs called Apple "the largest mobile device company in the world," and I had to do a double-take. Mobile device company? But don't you sell computers? Aren't you the top premium PC brand in the world?
Pass, says Apple. Tim Cook confirmed at a Goldman Sachs press conference yesterday that Apple is calling themselves a "mobile device company" officially. The "traditional model" of having companies sell different things -- hardware, software, peripherals -- just doesn't work on today's world, according to Cook. So Apple is no longer a computer company, or an OS maker (though he does say that OS X scales just fine down to the smaller devices), or a media giant. Its main focus is mobile devices. Side projects like the AppleTV are "just a hobby."
Somehow, Apple's focus changed when we all weren't looking (though we had hints -- Steve did take the "Computers" out of the name at the event a while back). The reasoning makes sense, though, even if it is a little disappointing that the company that makes the best computers in the world isn't even calling them computers any more.
iPhone OS4 will be revealed on April 8th.
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/04/500x_screen_shot_2010-04-05_at_12.02.58_pm.jpg)
Release date tba
Come to Verizon
K
Thx
Bai
Or is it just he announcement?
I suspect we'll see it available later today.
likely just an announcement- i expect it will ship in June or July, a similar timeframe to their announcement of 3.0 last year
tet is a fan of iTunes on Facebook, so he'd know better than me.
Quote from: mattstick on April 08, 2010, 12:54:23 PM
tet is a fan of iTunes on Facebook, so he'd know better than me.
:music:
/me prepares for a thread merge...
Event starts... now.
http://live.gizmodo.com/ (http://live.gizmodo.com/)
4.0 ships this summer... confirmed.
But for users, you can gift apps, create playlists, 5x digital zoom, sync IMAP notes, tap to focus video, places in Photos, home screen wallpaper (like iPad), iPod Out (wha?), Web search suggesetions, Bluetooth keyboards (!), file and delete mail search results, cell data only setting, larger fonts for mail, SMS and alerts, Choose image size in mail messages, wake on wireless, and a few more.
MULTITASKING
Demo has pandora playing in the background while switching to other apps... nice.
And you can control Pandora from the lock screen...
VOIP available as a background thread too.
that means skype can receive when the device is locked.
Kelly: It's like Apple has finally started realizing other people make awesome iPhone software too. And giving them more access to the OS to step up their game.
This cements my desire for an iphone.
and an iPad.
fuck. Christmas just got expensive.
SER, a background VOIP API is key- i use a Packet8 phone for work and they have a pretty slick iPhone app, but the problem has been that it doesn't work once you exit the app. this will make my iPhone into just another extension of our work phone system, which is totally incredible and necessary.
Folders for Apps!
Quote from: mattstick on April 08, 2010, 01:38:28 PM
Folders for Apps!
Sweetness.
Unified Inbox!
Threaded view
I'll be pissed if this is 3GS only. Then I'll buy a 3GS.
With the forthcoming iPhone4 I wouldn't be shocked it the 3g is left behind on this.
Ooooh, Enterprise management...
Social Gaming network?
This live blogging thing is getting harder and harder to read and make sense of.
Heh.
iAd, I could live without. Except that I agree with Jobs that the current wave of ads in my apps are annoying and stupid.
Fuck
iPhone 3g and 2nd gen Touch will not do multitasking.
Looks like I'm getting an iPhone 3gs.
I'm still using a 3G also
I do have a 1st gen touch though
I think I'll wait and see how my life is without multitasking, although I'd love to send text messages without quiting the MLB app if I'm listening to a game.
I have a 2nd gen touch. I'm already primed to get an iPhone, anyway...
i'm due for a new one anyway, as i'm still rocking the 3G. looking forward to new devices in a few months!! :crazy:
I'm really hoping they come out with an iPhone for verison. I want a new smart phone but don't really care much for verison's. I would get that in a second. I love all my Apple products. My Macbook and my 160gb iPod are fantastic and i just really want an iPhone
Quote from: tet on April 08, 2010, 02:20:42 PM
i'm due for a new one anyway, as i'm still rocking the 3G. looking forward to new devices in a few months!! :crazy:
New devices... right.
/me waits a little longer...
First of all, iPhone event is scheduled for June.
Secondly,
http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone (http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone)
(http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/04/500x_iphone1a.jpg)
Quoteit feels even nicer in your pants.
Notice the Front Facing Camera!
unbelievable that this would leak, but i believe it's totally legit. i'm sure Steve personally murdered the employee responsible for this by now - unless, of course, this was a controlled leak to build up desire with Palm/Andriod/MS getting a lot of the press with new phones lately
Broke the screen on my iPhone today.
Terrible timing...
I guess I just wait to upgrade and hope that the new iPhone is available somewhat quickly in Canada?
Craigslist seems to be filled with local repair people, not sure how much it will cost or how much I'm willing to pay.
Quote from: rowjimmy on April 05, 2010, 02:23:22 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on April 05, 2010, 02:03:13 PM
Come to Verizon
K
Thx
Bai
f'real
i have been hearing good things on this front. my buddies father is pretty invested in apple and says hes been hearing more and more about this happening, and soon.
:crosses fingers:
There has been no credible information for the iPhone coming to vzw.
If anything, the existence of the micro-sim port on the iPhone4 makes the cdma/4g iPhone sound very unlikely to appear in June.
That sucks Matt, but there are definitely options for you...
From The New York Times:
Quote
How to Fix Your iPhone (the Unofficial Edition)
With Apple selling millions of iPhones, it was perhaps inevitable that
a cottage industry of iPhone repair shops would follow.
http://nyti.ms/byT6dT (http://nyti.ms/byT6dT)
http://gizmodo.com/5520438/how-apple-lost-the-next-iphone (http://gizmodo.com/5520438/how-apple-lost-the-next-iphone)
QuoteThe Gourmet Haus Staudt. A nice place to enjoy good German ales. And if you are an Apple Software Engineer named Gray Powell, it's also a nice place to make the honest mistake of losing the next-generation iPhone...
[smg id=710 type=av]
Quote from: tet on April 20, 2010, 12:01:32 AM
That sucks Matt, but there are definitely options for you...
From The New York Times:
Quote
How to Fix Your iPhone (the Unofficial Edition)
With Apple selling millions of iPhones, it was perhaps inevitable that
a cottage industry of iPhone repair shops would follow.
http://nyti.ms/byT6dT (http://nyti.ms/byT6dT)
I'm going to get an estimate to repair it, but if it's going to cost more than $100 to repair I may wait for the announcement and release of iPhone 4.0.
June is only two months away.
But who knows how long before Rogers has it in Canada... and I still have 1 year and 3 months on my contract.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_10080000/newsid_10083400/10083480.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_10080000/newsid_10083400/10083480.stm)
An Apple engineer lost one of the proto-type 4G Iphones at a bar!
Quote from: mistercharlie on April 20, 2010, 09:26:21 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_10080000/newsid_10083400/10083480.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_10080000/newsid_10083400/10083480.stm)
An Apple engineer lost one of the proto-type 4G Iphones at a bar!
You should really read the thread in which you are posting...
Quote from: rowjimmy on April 19, 2010, 12:10:03 PM
First of all, iPhone event is scheduled for June.
Secondly,
http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone (http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone)
(http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/04/500x_iphone1a.jpg)
Quoteit feels even nicer in your pants.
Quote from: rowjimmy on April 20, 2010, 07:48:15 AM
http://gizmodo.com/5520438/how-apple-lost-the-next-iphone (http://gizmodo.com/5520438/how-apple-lost-the-next-iphone)
QuoteThe Gourmet Haus Staudt. A nice place to enjoy good German ales. And if you are an Apple Software Engineer named Gray Powell, it's also a nice place to make the honest mistake of losing the next-generation iPhone...
[smg id=710 type=av]
Quote from: rowjimmy on April 20, 2010, 09:57:56 AM
You should really read the thread in which you are posting...
Sorry about that, I don't usually read this thread. Jealousy starts rearing it's ugly head when I try. I just saw that as a top headline while pursuing the BBC news, and thought that it'd be new news. :oops:
Quote from: mistercharlie on April 20, 2010, 07:03:35 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on April 20, 2010, 09:57:56 AM
You should really read the thread in which you are posting...
Sorry about that, I don't usually read this thread. Jealousy starts rearing it's ugly head when I try. I just saw that as a top headline while pursuing the BBC news, and thought that it'd be new news. :oops:
Don't be sad...
/just ballbustin'
gotta say, the new phone looks pretty pimp, i like the squared edges, it "looks" like its higher quality with the volume buttons and lack of mute switch, which i have heard more than once can break off.
(http://dilbert.com/dyn/tiny/File/Lost%20Phone%201%20.jpg)
I had the glass on my iPhone replaced, work was done in 30 minutes and it cost $50.
I wish it had been less, but I went from thinking I was fucked, to being out $50.
$50 beats a new phone right before the NEW model is announced...
Where did you have that done? AT&T? I know someone with an iphone with spiderwebbed glass
I found the place on Craigslist, it was sketchy, but way less than what Apple would have charged.
glad you found a cheap fix, matt...
... but for the rest of us who need a new iPhone, look forward to June 7th (my bday!)- just announced that Apple's annual WWDC will be June 7-11, and we can expect the new iPhone to be announced during the keynote (along with availability of OS 4 and probably some more goodies)
I'm on board with the new phone.
Quote from: mattstick on April 28, 2010, 09:37:10 AM
I'm on board with the new phone.
My wife, otoh, still needs a little bit of convincing.
As WWDC approaches, the rumors will start to fly. Here's one to get the ball rolling. Apple contracts Asus spinoff to make CDMA iPhones -- potentially enough for both Sprint & Verizon. Could it be true?!? Who the heck knows. The source (DigiTimes) has a reputation for throwing stuff out there, hoping to land scoops. Sometimes it actually does:roll:
Anyway:
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=16534&news=Apple+iPhone+4G+HD+Verizon+CDMA+Sprint (http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=16534&news=Apple+iPhone+4G+HD+Verizon+CDMA+Sprint)
Word is, based on documents released as part of a class-action suit against Apple, that the at&t contract runs through 2012.
The suit, incidentally, is from people who are upset that, while their initial contracts were only for 2 years, the exclusivity of iphones to at&t prevents them from getting the phone unlocked and taking it elsewhere.
Quote from: rowjimmy on May 15, 2010, 09:09:42 PM
Word is, based on documents released as part of a class-action suit against Apple, that the at&t contract runs through 2012.
great the day verizon gets the iphone the whole world ends. :x
Quote from: rowjimmy on May 15, 2010, 09:09:42 PM
Word is, based on documents released as part of a class-action suit against Apple, that the at&t contract runs through 2012.
The suit, incidentally, is from people who are upset that, while their initial contracts were only for 2 years, the exclusivity of iphones to at&t prevents them from getting the phone unlocked and taking it elsewhere.
Where can i sign up to join that? Ridiculous that the iPhone is the only thing AT&T refuses to unlock. Most phones they allow to do it after 90 days!!!
Quote from: tet on May 16, 2010, 06:47:58 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on May 15, 2010, 09:09:42 PM
Word is, based on documents released as part of a class-action suit against Apple, that the at&t contract runs through 2012.
The suit, incidentally, is from people who are upset that, while their initial contracts were only for 2 years, the exclusivity of iphones to at&t prevents them from getting the phone unlocked and taking it elsewhere.
Where can i sign up to join that? Ridiculous that the iPhone is the only thing AT&T refuses to unlock. Most phones they allow to do it after 90 days!!!
Here's my source: http://gizmodo.com/5535699/yes-apple-and-att-really-did-sign-a-five+year-agreement-in-2007 (http://gizmodo.com/5535699/yes-apple-and-att-really-did-sign-a-five+year-agreement-in-2007)
On a positive note:
http://gizmodo.com/5536416/att-pushing-some-upgrade-eligibility-dates-up-to-june (http://gizmodo.com/5536416/att-pushing-some-upgrade-eligibility-dates-up-to-june)
Unfortunately i am unable to browse to either of those links, for reasons already known...
Ohhh.... right.
Try here for more on the first thing: http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-agreed-to-stick-with-att-for-iphone-through-2012-reports-say-2010-5 (http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-agreed-to-stick-with-att-for-iphone-through-2012-reports-say-2010-5)
For the second, try here: http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/05/11/new-iphone-eligibility/ (http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/05/11/new-iphone-eligibility/)
QuoteIf this agreement is still in effect, iPhone users are stuck with AT&T through the spring of 2012.
and verizon users are stuck with suck filled phones till then as well i guess. :frustrated:
Quote from: JustJezmund on May 16, 2010, 12:57:29 PM
QuoteIf this agreement is still in effect, iPhone users are stuck with AT&T through the spring of 2012.
and verizon users are stuck with suck filled phones till then as well i guess. :frustrated:
:roll:
Anyone else running 4.0 beta? I got licensed and am running it. Some of the new features are good. Much better spell checking and options in that. Some improved interfaces and extra features (did camera always have zoom?). The folders are great. I only have one page! 8 Apps, the 4 at the bottom and then 8 folders in between. The background apps section is going to be cool and the doubletap for ipod controls went away, then came back differently in this beta including a screen rotation lock. (unfortunately it locks across apps, it's with the ipod controls so I wish it was just for that.) One thing I like and don't like are the ipod controls... You can now access them another way.
1, double homebutton while locked, they show up at the top of the screen
2, double homebutton wile in, it goes to the "fast app switcher" to switch to other apps, but a swipe to the right brings up the set of ipod controls with the screen lock and the option to go to the iPod app. I'm assuming this is where it'll always be. This is at the bottom of the screen.
3, within ipod, they're at the bottom of the screen or not available in landscape mode
4, they used to be available in a modal box but that seems to be gone (I guess I'd call it traded for something different at the bottom of the screen.)
Can't the ipod controls always be the same and in the same place?
In any case, it's a buggy as a beta. It'll be a nice release though.
As for the new phone, only one year and a few months till I get mine.
It's official. Jobs will give the keynote @ WWDC on June 7.
no iphone here... but have you see this?
http://www.worstphoneever.com/ (http://www.worstphoneever.com/)
QuoteObviously there are a few privacy issues with sharing your logs, but why not early-adopt in the mass lawsuit space?
So it seems that ever since the new ios upgrade my iphone battery life has reduced pretty significantly. Do you think they could have possibly snuck something into the new ios to do this to the old 3g phones to get people to upgrade?
Just a paranoid thought for today
Quote from: whyweigh4.5 on June 25, 2010, 01:03:23 PM
So it seems that ever since the new ios upgrade my iphone battery life has reduced pretty significantly. Do you think they could have possibly snuck something into the new ios to do this to the old 3g phones to get people to upgrade?
Just a paranoid thought for today
Mine got better (for the 2 days until I picked up my iPhone 4).
I'd suggest doing a full restore of the 3G with a fresh 4.0 install, especially if you only did the upgrade before and not a restore. I've found restores help correct battery issues more times than not.
I restored when I did the IOS upgrade. Well, ...it restored on its own. Which sucked because I lost all my stored info for my apps. I was pretty pissed about that, at myself of course. I should have known better. I have a glucose reading app on my phone that all of my readings were stored on for weeks. I didn't call them in to my doctor yet and I restored and lost them all :frustrated:
Also, has anyone heard if the new iPhone has a T-Coil in it? I haven't been able to find any info on that online at all, not even at apple.com
Strange, mine kept some app info, others had to be redone. Not sure why that would happen. Definitely sucks in your situation...
What is a T-coil?
telecoil used to transmit sound to a hearing device, and I don't think it was added.
So I know tet's got one - and I do. Anyone else pick up one of these bad boys? After having it (left work early on the 23rd-early delivery yay) for a bit I'm pretty impressed. I love all the lists about what's wrong with the iPhone... I love the thing. It takes great pictures, has a nice feel to it (I like it better for texting), the retina display isn't a big deal until you see it (WOW), and the video calling is really cool - I was lucky to have a coworker that got one too. I'm getting iMovie now so I can see how that works.
Woohoo.
Pretty lame that they didn't add a t-coil to the new ones. Almost every other cell phone has them, why wouldn't apple do the same :?
I will probably not get a new iPhone and get something else because of this
I work for a coil manufacturer. We'd love to see the device get a t-coil.
I have these tiny magnets that I can stick on a house phone if it doesn't have a coil in it. But I doubt they work on cell phones. Who knows what sticking a magnet on a cell phone would do
.... *blows up the world :crazy:
iPhone destroyed by Death Ray (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1jS59uJ3PA#)
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 28, 2010, 01:43:29 PM
iPhone destroyed by Death Ray (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1jS59uJ3PA#)
:-o
The new multi tasking works perfectly, music and fire :clap:
Apparently they're being sued because if you're a left handed user, the way you hold the phone cuts out alot of the signal strength.
Don't know how much truth there is to that, but I saw it on the internet, so.....
anything you read on the internet is the same as shit you see on TV. It must be true.
Proof
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w103/sketchy_2007/1142645184025.jpg)
It was actually on msn.
Quote from: antelope19 on July 01, 2010, 04:28:14 PM
Apparently they're being sued because if you're a left handed user, the way you hold the phone cuts out alot of the signal strength.
Don't know how much truth there is to that, but I saw it on the internet, so.....
If the part of the internet where you saw it is called anandtech.com, it's probably real.
/humorless
:wink:
All smartphones are affected by being held. The issue seems to be that the new iPhone is much more sensitive than the previous 3GS model...
Lower is better, lol.
I'm glad they clarified, because I had no idea what it all meant. :-D
Quote from: antelope19 on July 01, 2010, 05:06:36 PM
Lower is better, lol.
I'm glad they clarified, because I had no idea what it all meant. :-D
i just figured that it meant left handed people suck at receiving things :-P
Quote from: JustJezmund on July 01, 2010, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 01, 2010, 05:06:36 PM
Lower is better, lol.
I'm glad they clarified, because I had no idea what it all meant. :-D
i just figured that it meant left handed people suck at receiving things :-P
As someone who is left handed, I resent that! :cry: :x
:-)
But seriously, I am left handed.
Quote from: antelope19 on July 01, 2010, 05:10:09 PM
Quote from: JustJezmund on July 01, 2010, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 01, 2010, 05:06:36 PM
Lower is better, lol.
I'm glad they clarified, because I had no idea what it all meant. :-D
i just figured that it meant left handed people suck at receiving things :-P
As someone who is left handed, I resent that! :cry: :x
:-)
ehh take it to someone who cares :wink:
(http://tuesdaymidnight.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/leftorium.jpg)
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
I am one f'd up dude.
Left handed and color blind. What are the odds?
Quote from: antelope19 on July 01, 2010, 05:13:57 PM
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
I am one f'd up dude.
Left handed and color blind. What are the odds?
apparently so so :roll:
its ok your alright with me
Funny Evil Steve Jobs (With English Subtitles) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HUBVuaCIPo#ws)
Table Connect for iPhone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbSwOgNzZg#ws)
The official Google Voice iPhone app has been released, finally. As of this instant I can't seem to find it via the App Store on my phone though iTunes on the desktop can find it...
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/11/16/official-google-voice-application-now-available-in-app-store/ (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/11/16/official-google-voice-application-now-available-in-app-store/)
Very psyched about this release...
new year bump!
I am reading that the Verizon-Iphone could be announced as soon as next week! :crazy:
Apparently Skype blew it and released some sort of "Iphone app help" document that had the Verizon logo on it.
Quote from: antelope19 on January 06, 2011, 09:36:58 AM
new year bump!
I am reading that the Verizon-Iphone could be announced as soon as next week! :crazy:
Apparently Skype blew it and released some sort of "Iphone app help" document that had the Verizon logo on it.
:prays to steve jobs:
Apparently there have been some leaked pics from Apple of new parts as well. Whether they're for an iphone 5 or CDMA version or both is yet to be determined.
There's also another camp that believes it could be announced today at the CES in Vegas.
Does Apple ever announce anything at the CES?
If I had an iPhone, I'd probably get one of these goofy looking things just for fun. Never seen one before just now, thought I'd pop in and share:
http://dealmac.com/IGg-i-Phone-Camera-6-x-Zoom-Telescope-Case-for-15-free-shipping/423376.html (http://dealmac.com/IGg-i-Phone-Camera-6-x-Zoom-Telescope-Case-for-15-free-shipping/423376.html)
(http://www.meritline.com/images/product/medium/262-233_2_.jpg) (http://www.meritline.com/images/product/medium/262-233_1_.jpg)
Quote from: StCarl on January 06, 2011, 11:26:23 AM
Does Apple ever announce anything at the CES?
If I had an iPhone, I'd probably get one of these goofy looking things just for fun. Never seen one before just now, thought I'd pop in and share:
http://dealmac.com/IGg-i-Phone-Camera-6-x-Zoom-Telescope-Case-for-15-free-shipping/423376.html (http://dealmac.com/IGg-i-Phone-Camera-6-x-Zoom-Telescope-Case-for-15-free-shipping/423376.html)
(http://www.meritline.com/images/product/medium/262-233_2_.jpg) (http://www.meritline.com/images/product/medium/262-233_1_.jpg)
No, but Verizon has a big time slot scheduled to start at 1.
Chances that Verizon will get to announce their iPhone at CES < 0.00001%
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 06, 2011, 11:48:57 AM
Chances that Verizon will get to announce their iPhone at CES < 0.00001%
:-D
A boy can hope!
Oh, and then there's this:
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AT&T will be offering the iPhone 3GS (not the iPhone 4!) for $49 starting Friday, January 7.
Quote from: antelope19 on January 06, 2011, 12:22:06 PM
Oh, and then there's this:
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AT&T will be offering the iPhone 3GS (not the iPhone 4!) for $49 starting Friday, January 7.
Clearly they're gearing to fight.
Can I get a Fuck Yeah?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html)
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The iPhone is finally coming to Verizon Wireless.
The largest U.S. wireless carrier will make the long-awaited announcement at an event Tuesday in New York City, a person familiar with the matter said Friday.
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 08, 2011, 11:21:45 AM
Can I get a Fuck Yeah?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html)
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The iPhone is finally coming to Verizon Wireless.
The largest U.S. wireless carrier will make the long-awaited announcement at an event Tuesday in New York City, a person familiar with the matter said Friday.
FUCK YEAH!
Quote from: antelope19 on January 08, 2011, 11:25:04 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 08, 2011, 11:21:45 AM
Can I get a Fuck Yeah?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html)
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The iPhone is finally coming to Verizon Wireless.
The largest U.S. wireless carrier will make the long-awaited announcement at an event Tuesday in New York City, a person familiar with the matter said Friday.
FUCK YEAH!
THAT'S what I'm talking about.
It's almost time to lose my 5 year old Zachary Morris phone? :beerbang:
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 08, 2011, 11:21:45 AM
Can I get a Fuck Yeah?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html)
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The iPhone is finally coming to Verizon Wireless.
The largest U.S. wireless carrier will make the long-awaited announcement at an event Tuesday in New York City, a person familiar with the matter said Friday.
WOOOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
bump!
I hope the rumors are true......
If they turn out to be true, should I lock your "Android Apps" thread?
Quote from: mattstick on January 10, 2011, 03:27:50 PM
If they turn out to be true, should I lock your "Android Apps" thread?
Blammo!
(the rumors are true)
Quote from: mattstick on January 10, 2011, 03:27:50 PM
If they turn out to be true, should I lock your "Android Apps" thread?
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
But it was really starting to take off!
As for me, I won't change phones until my new-every-two comes up in September.
One, obviously it'll be alot cheaper for the phone, but
Two, it'll give Verizon/Apple ample time to work out any bugs if there are any
Can we talk for a second about how much Mattstick fluffs all things Apple... /just sayin'
Sure, I only fluff things that are actually good. Unlike others here.
Quote from: mattstick on January 10, 2011, 04:07:55 PM
Sure, I only fluff things that are actually good. Unlike others here.
He's got a point. Apple consistently produces quality products.
Quote from: antelope19 on January 10, 2011, 04:10:15 PM
Quote from: mattstick on January 10, 2011, 04:07:55 PM
Sure, I only fluff things that are actually good. Unlike others here.
He's got a point. Apple consistently produces quality products.
QFT.
The moment Apple puts out a product that doesn't meet or exceed expectations, I'll be the first to criticize it.
John Oliver from the Daily Show is at the Verizon event and pre-show he's apparently yelling, "F&*k yeah! Oh God, thank you" at the top of his lungs.
snippets and details:
testing verizon iphone for the past year
available early february (Feb 10)
CDMA
$199 for 16gb, $299 for 32gb
will act as a 3g wifi hotspot for up to 5 devices!
Take THAT at&t.
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 11, 2011, 11:19:23 AM
$199 for 16gb, $299 for 32gb
will act as a 3g wifi hotspot for up to 5 devices!
Take THAT at&t.
:-o
That's pretty awesome. Can't wait to get one!
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 11, 2011, 11:19:23 AM
will act as a 3g wifi hotspot for up to 5 devices!
How would you guys use this? I was trying to think of a practical application, and really couldn't come up with anything.
Quote from: mattstick on January 11, 2011, 01:20:25 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 11, 2011, 11:19:23 AM
will act as a 3g wifi hotspot for up to 5 devices!
How would you guys use this? I was trying to think of a practical application, and really couldn't come up with anything.
I, for one will use the shit out of that. There are many times on the road that I need to type an email, etc. The iPad works, but having the capability to fire up the MBP where there is no wifi? Um, YES!
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 11, 2011, 11:19:23 AM
will act as a 3g wifi hotspot for up to 5 devices!
I'm pretty sure verizon will charge extra for this, they do for their current phones that can do tethering.
Quote from: kellerb on January 11, 2011, 06:30:23 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 11, 2011, 11:19:23 AM
will act as a 3g wifi hotspot for up to 5 devices!
I'm pretty sure verizon will charge extra for this, they do for their current phones that can do tethering.
I assume this will be the case. You can presently tether your iPhone on AT&T for some obscene extra charge, and you are still bound to the data limit on whichever plan you have. Bollocks.
Or, you could jailbreak your iPhone and get an app like MiWi that turns your phone into a WiFi router. If you still have the old unlimited data plan you don't have to worry about your usage. The MiWi app is a little pricey at $20 but it pays for itself after one month of usage vs. carrier tethering options. I have not yet downloaded it myself but I've used other JB tethering schemes to get my laptop online and it's a great trick to have in the arsenal.
Quote from: antelope19 on January 08, 2011, 11:25:04 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 08, 2011, 11:21:45 AM
Can I get a Fuck Yeah?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html)
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The iPhone is finally coming to Verizon Wireless.
The largest U.S. wireless carrier will make the long-awaited announcement at an event Tuesday in New York City, a person familiar with the matter said Friday.
FUCK YEAH!
yawn....still getting a droid.
Quote from: JustJezmund on January 12, 2011, 05:19:04 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on January 08, 2011, 11:25:04 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 08, 2011, 11:21:45 AM
Can I get a Fuck Yeah?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html)
Quote
The iPhone is finally coming to Verizon Wireless.
The largest U.S. wireless carrier will make the long-awaited announcement at an event Tuesday in New York City, a person familiar with the matter said Friday.
FUCK YEAH!
yawn....still getting a droid.
Can I ask why?
Quote from: antelope19 on January 13, 2011, 02:27:24 PM
Quote from: JustJezmund on January 12, 2011, 05:19:04 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on January 08, 2011, 11:25:04 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 08, 2011, 11:21:45 AM
Can I get a Fuck Yeah?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html)
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The iPhone is finally coming to Verizon Wireless.
The largest U.S. wireless carrier will make the long-awaited announcement at an event Tuesday in New York City, a person familiar with the matter said Friday.
FUCK YEAH!
yawn....still getting a droid.
Can I ask why?
all the apps i want can still be got on the droid, with the exception of LP. HDMI port, faster processors, the ability to play lossless audio. Just to name a few. Thats just how i feel.
Don't sleep on the Droid, they are gaining ground quickly and my guess will ultimatly beat Apple. Apple is very hardware specific, whereas Google is leaving it up the industry to do what is best and then they write the software. I personally think Apple's days are numbered. I mean they have a LOT of days left, but I suspect Google will end up crushing Apple and Microsoft in the long term.
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on January 13, 2011, 02:47:40 PM
Don't sleep on the Droid, they are gaining ground quickly and my guess will ultimatly beat Apple. Apple is very hardware specific, whereas Google is leaving it up the industry to do what is best and then they write the software. I personally think Apple's days are numbered. I mean they have a LOT of days left, but I suspect Google will end up crushing Apple and Microsoft in the long term.
Google is already running out of steam in some people's eyes. If you don't see the advantage of one company building the hardware and creating the software, you're missing the point.
Also, the fact that there is 1 OS for iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad vs. however many versions of the Android OS are going right now is a key for developers, and will become an issue moving forward.
Quote from: mattstick on January 13, 2011, 03:37:59 PM
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on January 13, 2011, 02:47:40 PM
Don't sleep on the Droid, they are gaining ground quickly and my guess will ultimatly beat Apple. Apple is very hardware specific, whereas Google is leaving it up the industry to do what is best and then they write the software. I personally think Apple's days are numbered. I mean they have a LOT of days left, but I suspect Google will end up crushing Apple and Microsoft in the long term.
Google is already running out of steam in some people's eyes. If you don't see the advantage of one company building the hardware and creating the software, you're missing the point.
Also, the fact that there is 1 OS for iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad vs. however many versions of the Android OS are going right now is a key for developers, and will become an issue moving forward.
No doubt! Both models have advantages and disadvantages for sure. And I see the benefit of the hardware/software integration that Apple provides, but on the other hand it does limit their ability to bring new hardware features to market quickly.
I think Droid is making more headway in the business space lately.
I am very interested in watching how this pans out.
Lol at HDMI being a reason to buy a phone.
Seriously? How often are you going to plug you PHONE into your tv?
Also, the os fragmentation and wild varieties of hardware is already presenting a problem for android developers.
Ios may have it's drawbacks for some developers as well but at least the platform base is uniform and the user base is massive.
The iPhone can play lossless files too.
Also, If I want to watch something from my phone on my TV I use AirPlay. No wires Brah!
with an hdmi ill plug it in my tv more times than you will be able to with an iphone. the biggest reason is that it really is faster and i like the os better personally. the end
Have fun plugging your phone into a TV.
you guys should go on apple tour instead of phish with all the fluffing around here. :roll:
You realize you're in the iPhone thread right?
the other day i was listening to some taylor swift on my ipod - #1 jam of the week on itunes - but then i got a call on my iphone. i paused the swift to answer, but the call dropped. i then moved a foot to the left and answered. the service stayed for 30 seconds.
my buddy told me he emailed me a sweet flac of the new new new matersounds, so i grabbed my macbook and installed (after a lengthy searched and mulitple threads) a plugin to convert it to ALAC. i put that shit on and was taken to a new new level.
then i felt like reading, so i grabbed my ipad to devour the latest dan brown,
but it was out of juice so i plugged it in and waited an hour before i could read.
during that time i paid $1.25 for a hillarious fart app on my iphone.
it was hillarious. do you have that app? no? dude, you totally have to have it....
whats next?!?
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3213/1zqsjnm.gif)
iPhone haters, the Android thread is probably a few pages back. Thanks.
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 13, 2011, 06:16:23 PM
Lol at HDMI being a reason to buy a phone.
Seriously? How often are you going to plug you PHONE into your tv?
This
For me, it comes down to this: Getting an iphone would simplify my life. It would eliminate the need for additional software and an additional device(my 80 gig IPOD). Not to mention a they have a superior App store, etc. I am just your average phone user and the iphone 4, IMO, would be a major upgrade over my 1st gen droid.
That said, I'll be waiting to see what the next version brings in a few months. My contract doesn't end until September.
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Without much fanfare, Verizon Wireless has discontinued "New Every Two," a long-running promotion where anyone completing a two-year contract was eligible for a new or discounted phone if they signed on for another two-year contract. As of January 16, a few weeks before pre-orders would be accepted for Verizon iPhones, Verizon has changed its policy.
However, If you are an existing Verizon Wireless customer at present, you will be grandfathered in to the "New Every Two" program, but it seems that the timing is calculated to make sure that any switchers from AT&T will not have the opportunity for any sort of discounted phone.
:banana:
ETA: Just found this little tidbit in a recent interview with Verizon CEO Ian Seidenberg:
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Now that Apple and Verizon have come together to offer an iPhone, the next evolution, according to Seidenberg, will be in LTE. The wireless carrier is ahead of AT&T in LTE deployment, and Apple will benefit from Verizon's advanced position. Seidenberg notes that Apple gets "to establish a relationship with us early in their cycles to take advantage of the 4G stuff that's going to come out over the next 12 months." It's not a confirmation, but Seidenberg's comments strongly suggest the next generation iPhone for Verizon will include LTE connectivity.
Quote from: mattstick on January 14, 2011, 07:33:56 AM
iPhone haters, the Android thread is probably a few pages back. Thanks.
THIS. Apple in general pwns everything. Sorry for the reality check.
you all know how i feel.
Im gunna go back and hate on 1/1 some more i guess. 8-)
I play 24-48 files on mine no problem, but to each his own. Obviously there are pros and cons for both that every individual weighs differently. It's fun to argue that the things I need and the way I use a piece of hardware/software are more "important" than the things you need it for... And furthermore that one piece of hardware/software does all of those important things better than another. So yeah, my iPhone is way better...
for me.
Lawsuit claims AT&T cheats iPhone, iPad owners on data (http://www.macworld.com/article/157573/2011/02/att_data_lawsuit.html?lsrc=rss_main)
Oh AT&T, you so crazy.
I'm certain my provider does the same thing. I'm also certain I've paid for extra data I didn't use while roaming on AT&T's network.
Pre-ordered on Verizon.com early yesterday morning.
Quote from: aphineday on February 04, 2011, 01:12:48 AM
Pre-ordered on Verizon.com early yesterday morning.
did you jerk off all day thinking about it?
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on February 04, 2011, 01:17:45 AM
Quote from: aphineday on February 04, 2011, 01:12:48 AM
Pre-ordered on Verizon.com early yesterday morning.
did you jerk off all day thinking about it?
lulz
I skipped the pre-order but hope to secure a pair for my wife and I later in the month.
Quote from: aphineday on February 04, 2011, 01:12:48 AM
Pre-ordered on Verizon.com early yesterday morning.
so did my mom. She called to tell me about it! HA!
I'm def. taking a wait and see approach. I am happy with my droid but mostly waiting to see how Verizon handles the influx of iphone users and to see what the iphone 5 may bring. That and my New every 2 comes up in September.
my iphone is company paid so no switch to Verizon for this guy
Quote from: antelope19 on February 04, 2011, 09:42:46 AM
and to see what the iphone 5 may bring.
more bugs and letdowns :evil:
yeah ive bee hatin, but after my Droid X started crashing after not even a week. I had to cave.
Not saying I love it yet, with my luck the phone will explode in my hand will trying to multi task hipstamatic and pandora. :roll:
Just one more apple product for me to throw music on.
http://www.businessinsider.com/adobe-gives-in-to-apple-releases-flash-to-html-converter-2011-3?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2Falleyinsider%2Fsilicon_alley_insider+%28Silicon+Alley+Insider%29#ixzz1G4T5knF8
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Adobe Gives In To Apple, Releases Flash-to-HTML Converter
Adobe has finally given in to the inevitable: a new tool will convert Flash files to HTML5 so they can run on Apple devices like the iPad and iPhone.
The tool will help advertisers and Web sites who have already made big investments in Flash, but it's not going to keep developers from defecting -- especially if they're making mobile apps.
Apple hasn't been shy about its distaste for Adobe's Flash technology because it eats up battery life, and refuses to support it on the iOS platform used by the iPhone and iPad.
So Adobe has created an end-around and released a tool called Wallaby that will let developers convert Flash to HTML5, which can run in the Safari browser used by Apple devices.
HTML5 has also gotten shows of support from Microsoft, Facebook, and Google. The standard is still loosely defined -- it's actually a collection of related Web technologies, and each company supports a slightly different set of those technologies. But regardless of how the official definition ends up, it's probably going to replace Flash as the default way to make interactive Web apps in the next five years.
Adobe recently suffered another setback for Flash on mobile devices when the Motorola Xoom tablet -- the first tablet running Android Honeycomb, which was designed specifically for tablets -- shipped without promised Flash support.
p.s.
i converted last month...
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on March 09, 2011, 12:16:55 PM
p.s.
i converted last month...
Nice!
I'm waiting, but will most likely "convert" this year.
Quote from: antelope19 on March 09, 2011, 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on March 09, 2011, 12:16:55 PM
p.s.
i converted last month...
Nice!
I'm waiting, but will most likely "convert" this year.
i still can't decide how much i like it... IF i do.
Waitin on my bonus next week...!
iOS 4.3 is up now - also an update to AppleTV including MLB and NFL apps!
You know, if there was a $500 per year total sports package, I'd totally be in. Might just do whatever sports I can and skip TV anyhow. Pretty sweet. I'm checking out 4.3 now. This home sharing shit rules too
Quote from: mattstick on March 09, 2011, 02:46:49 PM
iOS 4.3 is up now - also an update to AppleTV including MLB and NFL apps!
Nifty.
Anyone wanna buy an appletv?
Typo - NBA, not NFL.
So you have an extra AppleTV or you don't love it?
Have one that I don't need. Never been used.
Well, looks like I'm make the jump a little earlier than expected. The whole family is purchasing iPhones today!
So will you be deleting your Android App thread?
Quote from: mattstick on April 15, 2011, 08:22:17 AM
So will you be deleting your Android App thread?
:-D
Quite possibly
Quote from: mattstick on April 15, 2011, 08:22:17 AM
So will you be deleting your Android App thread?
lol, nice...
Quote from: antelope19 on April 15, 2011, 08:24:26 AM
Quote from: mattstick on April 15, 2011, 08:22:17 AM
So will you be deleting your Android App thread?
:-D
Quite possibly
I am looking at Droids for my company, so it will probably get some use. :-D
Love this phone! It seriously pwns my old droid!
Anyway, please recommend some free apps! :)
I hope you bought MLB At Bat.
Google Places is a must-own app.
I use Photoshop Express more than I thought I would.
Live Nation for ticket drops.
ScanLife for those weird barcode things that are everywhere now.
Remote to control your iTunes/Mac.
Mr. AaaH!!! is a random game I play all the time when I'm waiting for my girlfriend to try on clothes at the mall.
There was a fairly good list of apps around here somewhere... which I cannot find right now.
Some of the apps I seem to use the most:
Skype
Google Voice
Talkatone (GV over WiFi)
Remote
Words with Friends
Echofon
AT&T's app (check your minutes, etc)
Pandora
There are lots of others that I just don't use too often.
For watching video, subscribers can take advantage of:
Netflix
Watch ESPN (feeds from all their networks -- certain cable systems only)
HBO Go (coming next month)
ESPN Score Center is a great free app for sports.
Dismount is a dumb and fun free app and i just d/l instagrams which is kinda cool
shazam - for when you don't know what music is playing.
ringtone designer - name says it all.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/04/20/135570632/researchers-apples-iphone-keeps-track-of-every-little-place-you-go?sc=fb&cc=fp
Quote from: whyweigh5.0 on April 21, 2011, 01:23:57 AM
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/04/20/135570632/researchers-apples-iphone-keeps-track-of-every-little-place-you-go?sc=fb&cc=fp
Lets hear the positive spin on this...
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on April 21, 2011, 11:20:02 AM
Quote from: whyweigh5.0 on April 21, 2011, 01:23:57 AM
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/04/20/135570632/researchers-apples-iphone-keeps-track-of-every-little-place-you-go?sc=fb&cc=fp
Lets hear the positive spin on this...
In case you suffer anterograde amnesia, your iPhone can tell you exactly where you've been.
http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002145.html
Actually, iPhone sends your location to Apple twice a day.
It should be noted that this file can't be accessed by third-party apps on an iPhone, as you need root rights to reach it. However, the file is copied to your PC or Mac during standard iPhone sync operations and is accessible from there.
But why is Apple collecting this information to begin with? We don't know for sure. But we're guessing it's likely related to Apple's global location database.
Like Google, Apple maintains a global database of the locations of Wi-Fi networks. They use this to get an estimate of your location without using GPS. For example, if your handset sees three hotspots which have MAC addresses that Apple knows are within a certain city block in London, it's a fair bet you're in that city block.
We know how Google collected their location database: they recorded them world-wide while they had their Google Maps Street View cars driving around the globe.
Where did Apple get their location database? They used to license it from a company called Skyhook. How did Skyhook obtain this information? Well, they had their own cars drive around the world, just like Google.
However, the Skyhook database is expensive. So beginning with iPhone OS 3.2 released in April 2010, Apple started replacing the Skyhook location database with their own location database.
And the real question is: How did Apple create their own location database? They did not have cars driving around the world. They didn't need to. They had existing iPhone owners around the world do the work for them.
If you run a modern iPhone, it will send your location history to Apple twice a day. This is the default operation of the device.
Why is that necessary? And furthermore, is there a way to disable it? I don't have an iPhone so it's not really of consequence to me but I get a little freaked out by invasion-of-privacy issues such as this.
Quote from: phil on April 21, 2011, 12:07:05 PM
Why is that necessary? And furthermore, is there a way to disable it? I don't have an iPhone so it's not really of consequence to me but I get a little freaked out by invasion-of-privacy issues such as this.
^^
QuoteAnd the real question is: How did Apple create their own location database? They did not have cars driving around the world. They didn't need to. They had existing iPhone owners around the world do the work for them.
Quote from: phil on April 21, 2011, 12:07:05 PM
Why is that necessary? And furthermore, is there a way to disable it? I don't have an iPhone so it's not really of consequence to me but I get a little freaked out by invasion-of-privacy issues such as this.
I have an iPhone and I am more then freaked out by this. I heard on the news this morning that there isn't a way to take it off your phone. However there are supposed to be settings in iTunes that you can change to remove the info from your personal computer so hackers can't get the info or something close to that to protect yourself. haven't had a chance to check it out but I will when I get home tonight.
No matter what pretty creepy and HUGE invasion of privacy.
Since you're so outraged by this I'm guessing you don't use a credit card, or make cellphone calls at all as well?
Quote from: mattstick on April 21, 2011, 12:47:10 PM
Since you're so outraged by this I'm guessing you don't use a credit card, or make cellphone calls at all as well?
Did I seem outragged? :roll:
And to answer your question's....you're right I don't use CCs and I very rarely use my cell phone for phone calls.
Quote from: mattstick on April 21, 2011, 12:47:10 PM
Since you're so outraged by this I'm guessing you don't use a credit card, or make cellphone calls at all as well?
Let's face the facts here, don't give Apple a pass because they are Apple. They should have more clearly identified this.
I just kind of assumed that if my phone was on, my location was logged. I use a GPS in the car, and I assume the same.
Quote from: mattstick on April 21, 2011, 01:41:16 PM
I just kind of assumed that if my phone was on, my location was logged. I use a GPS in the car, and I assume the same.
I'm really playing devil's advocate here. I just think Apple should have done this a little better and I think they don't get a 100% pass on this one. They should have allowed this as an opt-in. The fact that the user agreement/privacy policy states this is really kind of BS. No one reads them, lets be honest.
Lots of people collect information "anonymously" however there is ALMOST ALWAYS a way to make it nonymous. I for one don't really like people collecting information about me. Same reason I don't use facebook.
Quote from: mattstick on April 21, 2011, 01:41:16 PM
I just kind of assumed that if my phone was on, my location was logged. I use a GPS in the car, and I assume the same.
No standard car or mobile GPS units that I know of have any way of transmitting GPS location data. They have a GPS receiver, but cannot transmit their location. It might be possible that if you hook them up to a computer and use the company's "update" program, they could collect a log file from the unit, but I seriously doubt that happens.
Skyhook has become self aware. Terminator was right they just got the name wrong. Fuckin Nostradamus and shit!
Quote from: barnesy305 on April 21, 2011, 07:00:19 PM
Skyhook has become self aware. Terminator was right they just got the name wrong. Fuckin Nostradamus and shit!
and you do know that April 19th 2011 was the date, right?
freaky, i know...
(http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/images/terminator24.jpg)
well if we are going to be taken over by machines at least it will be really really good looking and easy to use machines.
bring on my iPhone 4S please.
Quote from: postjack on April 22, 2011, 09:11:32 AM
well if we are going to be taken over by machines at least it will be really really good looking and easy to use machines.
bring on my iPhone 4S please.
you mean
(http://www.chasingthefrog.com/Scoop_Pages/T3/terminator3tx.jpg)
?
yeah that's the ticket!
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Quote from: mattstick on April 21, 2011, 12:47:10 PM
Since you're so outraged by this I'm guessing you don't use a credit card, or make cellphone calls at all as well?
Simply put, if some one wants to know where you are they already do. ATMs, traffic light cameras, Amazon.com purchases, CC transactions, IP addresses, shit, posts on this forum and for anyone that uses Facebook....come on!!!! When you log on to the internet, any cell phone turned on can be tracked and located. Anything with gps can be found, including your car with onstar, etc etc etc etc. This is not news or an outrage...its EXACTLY how the world operates. If you think ANYTHING is private...I've got some beans to sell ya. :-P
Quote from: thatfargone on April 22, 2011, 11:01:53 AM
Quote from: mattstick on April 21, 2011, 12:47:10 PM
Since you're so outraged by this I'm guessing you don't use a credit card, or make cellphone calls at all as well?
Simply put, if some one wants to know where you are they already do. ATMs, traffic light cameras, Amazon.com purchases, CC transactions, IP addresses, shit, posts on this forum and for anyone that uses Facebook....come on!!!! When you log on to the internet, any cell phone turned on can be tracked and located. Anything with gps can be found, including your car with onstar, etc etc etc etc. This is not news or an outrage...its EXACTLY how the world operates. If you think ANYTHING is private...I've got some beans to sell ya. :-P
Still doesn't make it okay......
Quote from: tet on April 22, 2011, 08:31:34 AM
Quote from: barnesy305 on April 21, 2011, 07:00:19 PM
Skyhook has become self aware. Terminator was right they just got the name wrong. Fuckin Nostradamus and shit!
and you do know that April 19th 2011 was the date, right?
freaky, i know...
(http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/images/terminator24.jpg)
Yeah someone mentioned that to me the other day, figured this was the appropriate time and thread to bust it out.
Quote from: phuzzyfish12 on April 22, 2011, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: thatfargone on April 22, 2011, 11:01:53 AM
Quote from: mattstick on April 21, 2011, 12:47:10 PM
Since you're so outraged by this I'm guessing you don't use a credit card, or make cellphone calls at all as well?
Simply put, if some one wants to know where you are they already do. ATMs, traffic light cameras, Amazon.com purchases, CC transactions, IP addresses, shit, posts on this forum and for anyone that uses Facebook....come on!!!! When you log on to the internet, any cell phone turned on can be tracked and located. Anything with gps can be found, including your car with onstar, etc etc etc etc. This is not news or an outrage...its EXACTLY how the world operates. If you think ANYTHING is private...I've got some beans to sell ya. :-P
Still doesn't make it okay......
But, in many cases it is us that willingly offer the information. Posting here and facebook alone gives the opportunity for anyone who would pass by access to where you live, your full name, all your friends, where you work. Added with the info you can get from that into...you can pretty much steal someones identity...if you REALLY wanted to. Sure, stuff like this, companies keeping information makes the places you need to go fewer. Pretty much unless you never work, pay taxes, own a phone etc etc etc your entire life is readily available for all to see. Add a few Freedom of Information Act requests and a trip to the local library and you'd be shocked to know what you can find on anyone. Anytime.
most used apps
instagram
tumblr
twitter
facebook
espn scorecenter
foursquare
tunein radio
newsrack
Quote from: jedifunk on April 23, 2011, 07:18:56 PM
most used apps
instagram
tumblr
twitter
facebook
espn scorecenter
foursquare
tunein radio
newsrack
Thanks fsor the input. I'll check them out!
If you're jailbroken, you can install untrackerd (http://www.redmondpie.com/untrackerd-prevent-iphone-location-tracking-cydia-jailbreak-only/) to turn off this "feature."
Is it possible to access/edit contacts on your iphone in itunes? Basically, I have a bunch of funny pics for people saved in gmail under their contact info and I'm wondering if I can move them to the iphone? I will say that being able to edit your contacts in gmail and have it auto-update your phone wirelessly was REALLY nice on my droid.
Quote from: antelope19 on April 25, 2011, 07:23:04 PM
Is it possible to access/edit contacts on your iphone in itunes? Basically, I have a bunch of funny pics for people saved in gmail under their contact info and I'm wondering if I can move them to the iphone? I will say that being able to edit your contacts in gmail and have it auto-update your phone wirelessly was REALLY nice on my droid.
well, if you use a Mac, you can sync your Gmail contact with Address Book (i believe anything 10.5 or later should support this), and then you just tell iTunes to sync those contacts with the phone. i
think that will bring over any images you have saved for particular contacts, but not 100% sure...
I use a pc
Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calendars > gmail > switch Contacts to On.
look like it should work either way - not sure if the pics would be brought over on the PC side (I know Apple's Address Book can store/sync that information easily)
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1245
Quote from: mattstick on April 26, 2011, 08:19:32 AM
Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calendars > gmail > switch Contacts to On.
Thanks! I'll try this when I get home tonight
I text a lot and miss my handcent app as it's currently only available on android. Is there anything on the iPhone that enhances it's current SMS/mms?
Apparently a white iPhone 4 comes out tomorrow
On the topic of phones knowing where we are just came across this doing homework
[url]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704547604576263261679848814.html?mod=wsjdn_portal/url]
Interesting read.
Apple store is back up and the white iPhone is now available.
Quote from: antelope19 on April 28, 2011, 08:10:48 AM
Apple store is back up and the white iPhone is now available.
So I guess everyone will be swapping them out today. :-D
A couple really great apps that haven't been mentioned (afaik):
Photosynth (panoramic photo app)
Moleskine (enhanced note taking app)
Quote from: antelope19 on April 26, 2011, 09:02:41 AM
Quote from: mattstick on April 26, 2011, 08:19:32 AM
Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calendars > gmail > switch Contacts to On.
Thanks! I'll try this when I get home tonight
No Luck. :|
Nevermind! Figured it out!
For those of you that are both iPhone users and enjoy taking pictures, do you find yourself less likely to use your camera these days? I certainly have.......
I'm almost using the iPhone exclusively these days. Admittedly, most of my photos are candid, snap shots.
I find I have a really nice mix of camera (scenic) and iPhone (candid) pictures when I get back from a vacation.
Quote from: mattstick on May 12, 2011, 01:24:25 PM
I find I have a really nice mix of camera (scenic) and iPhone (candid) pictures when I get back from a vacation.
Perhaps that's it......I need a vacation!
Seriously though, it kinda bums me out to think I don't pull the camera out as much, but it's just so convenient to have one device in the pocket
Quote from: antelope19 on May 12, 2011, 01:29:16 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 12, 2011, 01:24:25 PM
I find I have a really nice mix of camera (scenic) and iPhone (candid) pictures when I get back from a vacation.
Perhaps that's it......I need a vacation!
Seriously though, it kinda bums me out to think I don't pull the camera out as much, but it's just so convenient to have one device in the pocket
lope, not to burst your bubble, but you have had a camera phone before, right? I can't imagine that the iPhone has completely revolutionalized your photo taking.
You'd be surprised, actually. This isn't your standard camera phone. In some ways, it has better features than my current point and shoot.
Quote from: antelope19 on May 12, 2011, 01:53:25 PM
You'd be surprised, actually. This isn't your standard camera phone. In some ways, it has better features than my current point and shoot.
Yep.
Quote from: rowjimmy on May 02, 2011, 12:53:32 PM
A couple really great apps that haven't been mentioned (afaik):
Photosynth (panoramic photo app)
Moleskine (enhanced note taking app)
Just DL'd and fooled around with both of these at work. (yes, I'm phoning it in at this point)
Badass.
Photosynth is slick as hell.
Nice call.
Quote
Digitimes reports that Apple has lowered its iPhone 4 shipment volume for calendar Q2 2011 in anticipation of slower sales as the company prepares to unveil a new iPhone in September. Digitimes says supply chain makers have confirmed Apple has lowered iPhone 4 shipments from 20 million units down to 17.5-18 million units. Of those, 16 million units will be the GSM version, while 1.5-2 million units will be the CDMA version.
In a second report, Digitimes says Apple is unlikely to unveil an LTE-equipped iPhone before 2012. This isn't really new; there have been numerous reports that LTE chipsets aren't currently made small enough to fit in the iPhone's form factor, and even if they were, they aren't available in the quantity Apple would need to satiate consumer demand for the next iPhone.
iPhone 4S this fall, iPhone5 next year.
I'm holding out for the iDea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l24Sy4BWeOk&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l24Sy4BWeOk&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Nike + gps app is currently free. Normally $2.
iPhone 5 coming sooner rather than later
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-22/apple-said-to-prepare-faster-iphone-for-september.html
Quote
Apple Preparing Faster IPhone for September
Apple Inc. (AAPL) plans to introduce a new iPhone in September that boasts a stronger chip for processing data and a more advanced camera, according to two people familiar with the plans.
The device will include the A5 processor, the more powerful chip that Apple added to the iPad 2 earlier this year, along with an 8-megapixel camera, up from the 5-megapixel model in the iPhone 4, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the details aren't public. Apple is also testing a new version of the iPad that has a higher resolution screen, similar to the one now used in the iPhone 4, one of the people said.
The iPhone is Apple's top seller, accounting for half of revenue last quarter. A faster chip will enable speedier data downloads and help the device vie with handsets being introduced by rivals such as Samsung Electronics Co. that are powered by Google Inc. (GOOG)'s Android software. The iPhone's gains versus the BlackBerry partly explain why Research In Motion Ltd. (RIM) last week forecast its first-ever quarterly sales decline.
The new phone will run the iOS 5 operating system Apple previewed at a developer's conference this month. Codenamed "Telluride," it will feature already-announced features such as improved messaging and photo-sharing, one person said. It's also designed to run on all of Apple's mobile devices, this person said. Until late last year, iPads, iPhones and iPod touches used slightly different versions of iOS.
Natalie Kerris, a spokeswoman for Cupertino, California- based Apple, declined to comment.
Google's Gains
Apple pushed back the release of the next iPhone -- its fifth -- to coincide with the release of the new iOS 5, the people said.
Apple has not kept pace with Google in the smartphone market, projected by researcher IDC to reach almost 1 billion units by the end of 2015. This year, Apple is projected to account for 18.2 percent of the global market, compared with 38.9 percent for devices running Android, according to IDC in Framingham, Massachusetts.
Apple is also working to finish a cheaper version of the iPhone aimed at attracting customers in developing countries, the people said. This device would use chips and displays of similar quality to today's iPhone 4, the people said. Apple's work on a smaller, lower-priced version of the device was discussed by people familiar with the matter in February.
The screen resolution on Apple's new iPad would be about one-third higher than that of the iPad 2 and will boast a more responsive touchscreen, one of the people said.
The new iPhone will closely resemble the iPhone 4, the people said.
As Apple upgrades its mobile operating system it may eventually stop guaranteeing that all iOS apps run on older models, such as the iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS, one person said.
Apple, the second-largest company in the Standard & Poor's 500 Index behind Exxon Mobil Corp., rose $9.98 to $325.30 yesterday in Nasdaq Stock Market trading. It has gained less than one percent this year before today.
To contact the reporters on this story: Tim Culpan in Taipei at tculpan1@bloomberg.net; Peter Burrows in San Francisco at pburrows@bloomberg.net; Adam Satariano in San Francisco at asatariano1@bloomberg.net
4S coming this fall, 5 coming next summer.
Quote from: mattstick on June 22, 2011, 09:56:30 AM
4S coming this fall, 5 coming next summer.
yeah that's my feeling too. the 4S is going to be the likely moniker, with 4G or 5 being the release next year once 4G service has enough actual penetration and better chipsets with lower power consumption...
Quote from: tet on June 22, 2011, 10:20:13 AM
Quote from: mattstick on June 22, 2011, 09:56:30 AM
4S coming this fall, 5 coming next summer.
yeah that's my feeling too. the 4S is going to be the likely moniker, with 4G or 5 being the release next year once 4G service has enough actual penetration and better chipsets with lower power consumption...
So a new phone with an updated processor and camera running on the
iOS 5 is going to be called the 4S? Sounds like an iPhone 5 to me. Then again, I switched to Droid in a fit of rage when the iOS 4 update destroyed my 3G last summer.
iOS and iPhone versions are not synced.
Like i said early, might be able to us my moms upgrade in july. I'm not gonna wait for the 4S or 5. Because i'll be eligible in February, and if i like it i might consider it. but with the iOS5 on the 4 it looks like it's gonna be fucking sick either way.
Does it even matter, really?
With iPhone, you're going to get the update anyway, right? It's not like rolling the dice on whether your phone manufacturer can be arsed to implement the latest (or sometimes second-latest) Android updates.
Quote from: Alumni on June 23, 2011, 01:09:28 PM
Does it even matter, really?
With iPhone, you're going to get the update anyway, right? It's not like rolling the dice on whether your phone manufacturer can be arsed to implement the latest (or sometimes second-latest) Android updates.
Right. And even if the manufacturer has implemented it, you have to wait for your carrier to deliver the update.
Android has some cool shit going on, to be sure, but the version sprawl on the os due to the wide ranging platforms is an ever growing problem for the os devs, app devs and users.
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 23, 2011, 01:12:45 PM
Quote from: Alumni on June 23, 2011, 01:09:28 PM
Does it even matter, really?
With iPhone, you're going to get the update anyway, right? It's not like rolling the dice on whether your phone manufacturer can be arsed to implement the latest (or sometimes second-latest) Android updates.
Right. And even if the manufacturer has implemented it, you have to wait for your carrier to deliver the update.
Android has some cool shit going on, to be sure, but the version sprawl on the os due to the wide ranging platforms is an ever growing problem for the os devs, app devs and users.
FWIW, I rue the day I switched to Android and I am counting down until I can get my 4G/LTE iPhone 6 next summer.
Would like to say, Droids suck. If you don't keep up with the latest model you won't get shit for updates and they come out so frequently they are dated in 2 months.
Quote from: Multibeast12 on June 23, 2011, 01:27:05 PM
Would like to say, Droids suck. If you don't keep up with the latest model you won't get shit for updates and they come out so frequently they are dated in 2 months.
Not to get too off-topic...
I like that there's a wide-open platform. To have it backed by a giant like Google is even better. It's going to keep anyone from getting complacent for long.
But having tried pretty much everything at one point or another, I'm in the "closed-system" camp. iOS sets the standard, but even the competitors (WebOS, WP7) provide a polished experience that's hard to match on Android.
Just downloaded the free Sirius app for the iPhone and I haven't ever done the 7 day trial until now. Super Ball then cancel!
The phone-in-bag-of-rice thing really works. It saved my phone this weekend.
Has anyone used the Garmin StreetPilot app?
I'm not going to pay AT&T $10month for their licensed version of TeleNav. Besides being a rip-off, it isn't very good.
Garmin StreetPilot is pretty expensive for an app, but it's a one-time charge, and if it works well, I'd probably fork over the money.
Thanks!
If you're looking for spoken turn-by-turn, I believe the free MapQuest app offers that. I basically never use it, but I think it has that functionality...
Thanks for the heads-up. I actually have a WP7 phone*, though. No Mapquest app (yet). Just Garmin, AT&T, and a bunch of amateurish 3rd party apps.
The big OS update for later this year will include Android-stye spoken turn-by-turn. It seems stupid to fork over $40 now when a free solution is coming. But I'm moving in July, not November. If the Garmin app is money, I could still justify buying it.
Early adopter for the loss, I guess.
*I'm not going to try and sell anyone here on it. If you use Macs, iPhone is an obvious choice. If not, WP7 does have its selling points.
Quote from: Alumni on July 07, 2011, 05:21:42 PM
*I'm not going to try and sell anyone here on it. If you use Macs, iPhone is an obvious choice. If not, WP7 does have its selling points.
Well sure, I'd imagine you'd get unbelievable customer service/tech support since they sold about 1,000 of those things. :wink:
(says the guy who dumped his iPhone for a Droid and has regretted it ever since)
I'm as surprised as anyone that MS didn't completely screw it up. But I don't think they did. The Zune player was a faceplant of epic proportions in the marketplace, but the software runs so much more smoothly than iTunes it's appalling. The Outlook email app and calendar work great. Office Mobile is actually functional. Games are surprisingly good (though that's the one thing that probably shouldn't be surprising . . . Xbox Live and all that).
The last Android phones I've had were terrible on power management. First of all, I shouldn't have to go around app-killing all the time. But even when I did, battery life was miserable. WP7 is noticeably better. And the OS is just pretty. 800x480 isn't on par w/ Apple retina, but it's pretty good. And Samsung makes some great OLED displays.
All that said, there are a bunch of early-adopter annoyances. No way I'd recommend one for a Mac user. There's no point. Y'alls already have an excellent option that integrates perfectly with your other stuff. Even for someone who uses Windows exclusively. it's iffy. Works for me, though.
Bought the app, btw. It'll probably take Bing several revisions to come close to Google Nav. And that's still a few months even from starting. Garmin does a lot of things well right now (like keep running even if you lose 3G). Quality costs.
Short version: Garmin app is legit, if spendy.
/threadjack
New app: dragon go!
Best way I've found to do voice search.
So I was driving in the car yesterday and started wondering if there was an app that allows you to "stream"(for lack of a better term) music over your car radio, the same way a car adapter would? Or is this impossible?
Quote from: antelope19 on July 25, 2011, 10:12:52 AM
So I was driving in the car yesterday and started wondering if there was an app that allows you to "stream"(for lack of a better term) music over your car radio, the same way a car adapter would? Or is this impossible?
Here's what I've read. I could be wrong.
Although it should be technically possible given the phone's hardware (meaning, frequencies emitted), that would be a hack and there is no such solution that I'm aware of.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on July 25, 2011, 12:39:53 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 25, 2011, 10:12:52 AM
So I was driving in the car yesterday and started wondering if there was an app that allows you to "stream"(for lack of a better term) music over your car radio, the same way a car adapter would? Or is this impossible?
Here's what I've read. I could be wrong.
Although it should be technically possible given the phone's hardware (meaning, frequencies emitted), that would be a hack and there is no such solution that I'm aware of.
I would think bluetooth technology may allow for it, obviously your radio would need that ability.
UncleEbinezer is correct - you can do it via bluetooth. My car happens to support that, so I can actually just connect via bluetooth and hit play on the iPhone as I normally do and it automagically comes out of my car's speakers. probably kills the battery so I usually use a USB dongle instead, but the iPhone supports it natively (probably since iOS 4, if not 3 or even earlier) - just depends on your car's radio I suppose.
Quote from: tet on July 25, 2011, 04:18:04 PM
UncleEbinezer is correct - you can do it via bluetooth. My car happens to support that, so I can actually just connect via bluetooth and hit play on the iPhone as I normally do and it automagically comes out of my car's speakers. probably kills the battery so I usually use a USB dongle instead, but the iPhone supports it natively (probably since iOS 4, if not 3 or even earlier) - just depends on your car's radio I suppose.
Interesting. I was thinking that since it's possible to play your ipod through the radio with one of those adapters, the iphone would(should?) be able to do it. But the bluetooth thing makes sense.
Oh, and automagically, LOL :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Quote from: antelope19 on July 25, 2011, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: tet on July 25, 2011, 04:18:04 PM
UncleEbinezer is correct - you can do it via bluetooth. My car happens to support that, so I can actually just connect via bluetooth and hit play on the iPhone as I normally do and it automagically comes out of my car's speakers. probably kills the battery so I usually use a USB dongle instead, but the iPhone supports it natively (probably since iOS 4, if not 3 or even earlier) - just depends on your car's radio I suppose.
Interesting. I was thinking that since it's possible to play your ipod through the radio with one of those adapters, the iphone would(should?) be able to do it. But the bluetooth thing makes sense.
Oh, and automagically, LOL :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Those adapters have an FM transmitter, which is how it plays through your radio. As far as I know, iphones (and all other phones) don't have the capability to transmit FM. That would be super-handy for all of us with older stereos, although it would probably be a bigger battery-drain than bluetooth. I believe there are some FM transmitters that also bluetooth-pair with your phone, so you can accomplish this wirelessly regardless of your stereo.
Quote from: kellerb on July 25, 2011, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 25, 2011, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: tet on July 25, 2011, 04:18:04 PM
UncleEbinezer is correct - you can do it via bluetooth. My car happens to support that, so I can actually just connect via bluetooth and hit play on the iPhone as I normally do and it automagically comes out of my car's speakers. probably kills the battery so I usually use a USB dongle instead, but the iPhone supports it natively (probably since iOS 4, if not 3 or even earlier) - just depends on your car's radio I suppose.
Interesting. I was thinking that since it's possible to play your ipod through the radio with one of those adapters, the iphone would(should?) be able to do it. But the bluetooth thing makes sense.
Oh, and automagically, LOL :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Those adapters have an FM transmitter, which is how it plays through your radio. As far as I know, iphones (and all other phones) don't have the capability to transmit FM. That would be super-handy for all of us with older stereos, although it would probably be a bigger battery-drain than bluetooth. I believe there are some FM transmitters that also bluetooth-pair with your phone, so you can accomplish this wirelessly regardless of your stereo.
I'm sure that adapter you mention exists. Just seems silly to wirelessly (bluetooth) connect to a device to then again wirelessly (fm) transmit. I'd go with the old school wired version here and remove a variable. Less variables means an easier work day (I'm an IT guy like many of you).
What people here are saying is, there is not an app for that.
Looks like turntable.fm just released an app.
Is there a date for the new iPhone 5 release? My iPhone quit on me a few weeks ago and I'm just waiting to use my upgrade for when it comes out.
(My iPhone is 2 years old and is no longer under warranty.)
no official date, though an early October release is widely rumored from multiple sources.
Quote from: postjack on September 15, 2011, 08:23:25 PM
no official date, though an early October release is widely rumored from multiple sources.
Thanks!
i hate my iphone.
/rant.
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 16, 2011, 05:55:41 PM
i hate my iphone.
/rant.
Tha tis the only time i've heard somebody say they hate the iphone.
Anybody using an iphone with Outlook? I want to switch to iPhone when/if it is released for Sprint next month but my current setup is a BBerry with BES.....Anybody have experience with iPhone off of an Enterprise server? RJ? I know we talked about it for a second when we were in NYC, but I just don't quite remember....
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 18, 2011, 04:16:43 PM
Anybody using an iphone with Outlook? I want to switch to iPhone when/if it is released for Sprint next month but my current setup is a BBerry with BES.....Anybody have experience with iPhone off of an Enterprise server? RJ? I know we talked about it for a second when we were in NYC, but I just don't quite remember....
I don't know what any of that tech stuff means, but I use my iphone for work. That includes outlook, salesforce, etc. I've been very happy...never had any issues and working for one one of the largest payroll companies in the country, security is a top priority given the amount of sensitive data we deal with.....
Quote from: Multibeast12 on September 17, 2011, 11:29:59 AM
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 16, 2011, 05:55:41 PM
i hate my iphone.
/rant.
Tha tis the only time i've heard somebody say they hate the iphone.
seriously.
i may switch back to my samsung here soon...
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 18, 2011, 10:25:07 PM
Quote from: Multibeast12 on September 17, 2011, 11:29:59 AM
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 16, 2011, 05:55:41 PM
i hate my iphone.
/rant.
Tha tis the only time i've heard somebody say they hate the iphone.
seriously.
i may switch back to my samsung here soon...
If you're gettin sick of smart phones I have one of these layin around if ya want it.
(http://ssbraccia.myncblogs.com/files/2007/10/flipfone.png)
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 18, 2011, 04:16:43 PM
Anybody using an iphone with Outlook? I want to switch to iPhone when/if it is released for Sprint next month but my current setup is a BBerry with BES.....Anybody have experience with iPhone off of an Enterprise server? RJ? I know we talked about it for a second when we were in NYC, but I just don't quite remember....
You won't get quite the tight integration and speed of a Blackberry with BES but it will totally work. Add to it the fact that the web browser is 100x better (despite no flash if that even really matters to you, I almost never miss it) and that the apps and hardware are way better...
I use a BB for work because work uses them. I'd never own one by choice.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 19, 2011, 09:52:58 AM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 18, 2011, 04:16:43 PM
Anybody using an iphone with Outlook? I want to switch to iPhone when/if it is released for Sprint next month but my current setup is a BBerry with BES.....Anybody have experience with iPhone off of an Enterprise server? RJ? I know we talked about it for a second when we were in NYC, but I just don't quite remember....
You won't get quite the tight integration and speed of a Blackberry with BES but it will totally work. Add to it the fact that the web browser is 100x better (despite no flash if that even really matters to you, I almost never miss it) and that the apps and hardware are way better...
I use a BB for work because work uses them. I'd never own one by choice.
Cool...My work uses all BB too, hence the BES, but two people have already switched to HTC phones so I guess it is not a huge deal. As long as my IT guy can make it work without too much of a headache for him, I'm good....
i use an Exchange account for work (hosted remotely) on my iPhone with Exchange 2007 - works like a charm for me! Email, contact, and calendar sync all works perfectly...
Quote from: tet on September 19, 2011, 03:59:28 PM
i use an Exchange account for work (hosted remotely) on my iPhone with Exchange 2007 - works like a charm for me! Email, contact, and calendar sync all works perfectly...
Killer...Now I am really chomping at the bit for a Sprint release....I have my wife's old 3G which I use like a Touch and I have an iPad, but I will be psyched to ditch the BB and get an iPhone.....I really like the BB alot and def prefer the keyboard to the touchscreen, but the BB sucks ass for the net and any media.
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 20, 2011, 12:16:05 AM
Quote from: tet on September 19, 2011, 03:59:28 PM
i use an Exchange account for work (hosted remotely) on my iPhone with Exchange 2007 - works like a charm for me! Email, contact, and calendar sync all works perfectly...
Killer...Now I am really chomping at the bit for a Sprint release....I have my wife's old 3G which I use like a Touch and I have an iPad, but I will be psyched to ditch the BB and get an iPhone.....I really like the BB alot and def prefer the keyboard to the touchscreen, but the BB sucks ass for the net and any media.
Sprint has a Droid option with a keyboard.
:runs back to Droid thread:
I am pretty ready to upgrade from my 3GS. I hope event invitations go out today or tomorrow, it would help me relax.
Quote from: postjack on September 20, 2011, 10:00:51 AM
I am pretty ready to upgrade from my 3GS. I hope event invitations go out today or tomorrow, it would help me relax.
I'm also looking forward to the upgrade. My 3GS runs just fine for the most part but with iOS 4 it can slow down at times. Terminating unused background processes really helps by freeing up RAM.
On a side note, I'm excited that I may have found a buyer for my wife's old 3G. Didn't want that sitting around until it became worthless.
It's coming
(can't believe no one else has posted this yet)
QuoteApple to unveil new iPhone on Oct. 4
By David Goldman @CNNMoneyTech September 27, 2011: 12:38 PM ET
Apple to unveil new iPhone on Oct. 4
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Apple confirmed Tuesday that it will hold a press event on Oct. 4 at its Cupertino, Calif., headquarters. Expected to be the star attraction: The long-awaited iPhone 5.
It's been 15 months since Apple's iPhone 4 went on sale, making this lag between new models the longest since the iPhone debuted in 2007.
As always, the next-generation iPhone has been the subject of intense speculation. Almost daily, blogs and news agencies offer up new tidbits based on supposed leaks from hardware component makers or iPhone case designers to glean any information about what the next device could look like.
The dominant rumors for the next iPhone involve an 8-megapixel camera, longer battery life, a faster processor and availability on the Sprint (S, Fortune 500) network. Others have claimed that the device will have a larger screen, a curved display, no home button, support for 4G networks, and more memory.
In the past, about half the pre-launch rumors have turned out to be correct.
Apple has typically unveiled its new iPhone at its Worldwide Developers Conference in June, but this year, Steve Jobs reserved that time to preview the company's new software, including the iPad and iPhone's iOS operating system, the new Mac OS X Lion operating system, and iCloud.
In the fall, Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500) has traditionally updated its iPod lineup. Many analysts believe that the company will at the very least update its iPod Touch product this year, perhaps even selling a version with a 3G data connection.
Despite the delays in launching a new version, demand for the iPhone 4 has remained insatiable. Apple sold a record 20 million of the devices in the second quarter, and early analysis points to another record quarter over the past three months. A recent RBC Capital survey suggested iPhone 5 sales would likely top those of the record-setting iPhone 4.
Apple's Oct. 4 event will likely be hosted by new CEO Tim Cook.
Will there be a cameo from Steve Jobs, now Apple's chairman? Don't rule it out: Jobs has surprised audiences before, making two public appearances this year at Apple events during his medical leave of absence. To top of page
Is it too much to ask for it to be both 4G and a Sprint version?
I just synched my iphone 4 and then told itunes to "check for a software update" and it came back with "your carrier has a setting update" I have Verizon, FWIW. So I got it. We'll see what it does, but I thought it was interesting. That's def. a first. I assume it has something to do with whatever's being released on Tuesday.
Quote from: antelope19 on October 02, 2011, 05:43:49 PM
I just synched my iphone 4 and then told itunes to "check for a software update" and it came back with "your carrier has a setting update" I have Verizon, FWIW. So I got it. We'll see what it does, but I thought it was interesting. That's def. a first. I assume it has something to do with whatever's being released on Tuesday.
I updated that as well, we'll see what happens.
Quote from: antelope19 on October 02, 2011, 05:43:49 PM
I just synched my iphone 4 and then told itunes to "check for a software update" and it came back with "your carrier has a setting update" I have Verizon, FWIW. So I got it. We'll see what it does, but I thought it was interesting. That's def. a first. I assume it has something to do with whatever's being released on Tuesday.
Hmm...
I'll have to check that out.
I very rarely plug my phone into my PC, so I mightgave a few updates waiting for me.
those are usually just modem firmware updates - there have been several of those for AT&T over the years, and may have more to do with new technology in their towers and such than anything else (improved speeds, connections, etc). it also may be in anticipation of iOS 5's release, as that will have OTA updates (Over The Air) for iOS itself, so it could just be to improve support of that.
This is just a personal hunch, but I think we're going to see an upgraded Iphone 4(better camera, faster processor, etc), an Iphone 4S if you will, and not a completely overhauled "Iphone 5" tomorrow.
Just my $.02
/sweet blog
I got the Verizon carrier update last week.
/just sayin'
Quote from: antelope19 on October 03, 2011, 05:47:02 PM
This is just a personal hunch, but I think we're going to see an upgraded Iphone 4(better camera, faster processor, etc), an Iphone 4S if you will, and not a completely overhauled "Iphone 5" tomorrow.
Just my $.02
/sweet blog
The antenna will be integrated into the display, and will now drop calls whenever you mistakenly touch your ear to the phone.
I am so ready to pull the trigger on this....If they come out without a Sprint option I am going to be pretty deflated....I could go AT&T and just bill my company, but it is really nice to just have someone pay your bill every month, and with my company, we're all on a corporate Sprint plan....How has it worked in the past: They make the announcement and the actual on sale is in a day/3 days/week? I am fulling buying into the hype, but not so much that I want to wait in a huge day one line. I am hoping I can just pre-order and have it mailed to me by/around the release date....I am hoping that is an option...getting freaking pumped....
Quote from: Caravan2001 on October 03, 2011, 11:14:12 PM
I am so ready to pull the trigger on this....If they come out without a Sprint option I am going to be pretty deflated....I could go AT&T and just bill my company, but it is really nice to just have someone pay your bill every month, and with my company, we're all on a corporate Sprint plan....How has it worked in the past: They make the announcement and the actual on sale is in a day/3 days/week? I am fulling buying into the hype, but not so much that I want to wait in a huge day one line. I am hoping I can just pre-order and have it mailed to me by/around the release date....I am hoping that is an option...getting freaking pumped....
I don't think you have anything to worry about.....
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Less than a day before the expected announcement of the new iPhones, the Wall Street Journal reports that Sprint plans to 'bet the company' on the iPhone and will purchase at least 30.5 million iPhones over the next four years, which amounts to about US$20 billion.
Sprint would subsidize each phone for about $500. The move isn't expected to generate any sort of profit until 2014. The WSJ's source tells the paper that "the projected hit to the company's operating income is 'staggering,' " but it's expected to halt the company's sales losses to Verizon and AT&T as Sprint's customers seek out the iPhone.
i'm finding it hard to believe though that Apple would give Sprint an exclusive on the iPhone 5.
I read that they will have a 14-day advance on new product, but no exclusives.
Quote from: tet on October 04, 2011, 07:58:40 AM
i'm finding it hard to believe though that Apple would give Sprint an exclusive on the iPhone 5.
I would agree with this. Sprint is really hanging on for dear life. I'm actually surprised they have lasted this long.
If Sprint offers unlimited packages, I suspect they'll get a few people to switch.
Quote from: mattstick on October 04, 2011, 09:34:11 AM
If Sprint offers unlimited packages, I suspect they'll get a few people to switch.
very true - they've been pushing that lately and I think that's a pretty attractive way to get some people over from AT&T and Verizon, which have both been throttling and limiting everything as corporate policy. If Sprint comes on board with the iPhone and "unlimited everything" plans, the others are going to have to follow...
I'm following along on the Gizmodo live blog. Seems to update the fastest.
I don't know why they don't just stream video of these events.....
Crazy amounts of people would tune in I'm sure.
There was a stream for the iPad 1 event.
TUAW and Engadget are both crashed out for me.
Engadget is working ok here...
TUAW liveblog is pretty good here
jinxed myself
Find My Friends is pretty sick. I can use this to see where Heather is Christmas shopping for me, or where my drug dealer is.
Any release dates yet?
iOS5 = Oct 12.
Here we go.....
Looks like 4S... no 5.
I'm still on 3S so I'm pumped to upgrade.
Quote from: mattstick on October 04, 2011, 01:44:06 PM
Find My Friends is pretty sick. I can use this to see where Heather is Christmas shopping for me, or where my drug dealer is.
I had this exact idea this summer when I couldn't find my buddies at Camden. Fucking Apple ripping me off.
Other than that the best new feature to me is an Android rip off. No 4G/LTE? Kinda disappointing.
Quote from: runawayjimbo on October 04, 2011, 02:14:25 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 04, 2011, 01:44:06 PM
Find My Friends is pretty sick. I can use this to see where Heather is Christmas shopping for me, or where my drug dealer is.
I had this exact idea this summer when I couldn't find my buddies at Camden. Fucking Apple ripping me off.
Other than that the best new feature to me is an Android rip off. No 4G/LTE? Kinda disappointing.
what's so good about 4G that it's worth having an hour and a half of battery life?? HSDPA+, at 14 mb/s, should suffice for most... and you still get 8 hours of talk time
I like the voice controls...
hmmmmm I still have questions about itunes match. Whats the cap? How is it gonna work for those of us with 800gb libraries?
iTunes Match seems kind of stupid to me.
No pricing without a contract?
Quote from: JPhishman on October 04, 2011, 02:39:06 PM
hmmmmm I still have questions about itunes match. Whats the cap? How is it gonna work for those of us with 800gb libraries?
it won't. there's a 25,000 song limit (not sure if there are any size restrictions to it, or what happens when we upload Apple Lossless files...)
did they say if this will be a "world" phone?
never mind - yes is the answer.
and you know that for sure
Looking good so far!
Reading some tech sites today, I love all the commenters kvetching over the "4S" vs. "5" name. It's a different phone, an upgraded phone; what difference does it make what they call it? Plus, the real-time hanging on, the immediate granular post-mortem, the wide range of all-over-the-map emotional reactions among the Apple faithful -- all reminded me, amusingly, of a certain other fanbase.
For my part, I've had the 3GS for two years now and have always figured I'd take a hard look at the 4's successor. I'll bide my time and wait for an untethered iOS 5 jailbreak (can't live without it), then decide if I'm going to ditch AT&T.
Hopefully be getting one on the 12th.
I still don't really see the benefit of iTunes match, or amazon cloud for that matter. Limited data plans limit the usefulness of having all your music "in the cloud". I also don't feel the need to have my entire music library in my pocket at all times, like friends of mine who MUST have the iPod classic so they can fit as much of their music as possible on one player. why? i just sync a few playlists for that week and enjoy several different albums.
actually, lately I've been thrilled with spotify premium. THIS is what apple should have done, a super slick, easy to use music subscription service with a deep catalog, with over the air music syncing over wifi, so I can get all my music on my device while I'm at home without having to stream it on the road and eat up my data.
but back to the topic at hand, I think the 4S looks great, and am excited to upgrade from my 3GS. i have no issue with the current iPhone body, in fact the 4 is still the best looking mobile device on the market IMO. i'll be preordering friday.
A few weeks ago, my friend was over and I was commenting on his iphone as my daughter was playing with it. I think he didn't want to take it away in case it upset her and I assumed he was ok with her playing with it so we just went about our convo and didn't think of it. Out of the corner of my eye, I saw her drop something in a bucket of water sitting in our backyard. I quickly put 2 and 2 together and ran to pick it out of the bucket. We put it in a box of rice for a couple days and sure enough, worked fine afterwards. My buddy definitely got a bad first impression of my little girl. :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
My wife's phone crapped out 2 weeks after her insurance lapsed so I had to give her my upgrade a couple of weeks ago. Now I have to wait until March to get a new phone. I really shit the bed on that one.
I've read a lot of hate of the 4S, but i think it is gonne be incredible. I'm glad they did not change the design of the iphone. I like this square shape. also i still can't really wrap my head around that Siri thing, it looks just wow, never have to pretty much do anything on the phone anymore. also, my biggest question, will you have the ability to turn siri off? is it like an app? or will it always be reading all my messages to me
You activate Siri just like you activate Voice Control on your current phone.
for some reason I think if they called it iphone 5 instead of iphone 4s there would be a lot less criticism.
think I'll make the switch
Quote from: slslbs on October 05, 2011, 12:15:24 PM
for some reason I think if they called it iphone 5 instead of iphone 4s there would be a lot less criticism.
think I'll make the switch
Right.
It's just a name.
People are always gonna bitch.
Quote from: slslbs on October 05, 2011, 12:15:24 PM
for some reason I think if they called it iphone 5 instead of iphone 4s there would be a lot less criticism.
think I'll make the switch
maybe, but it would have created equal criticism: "how can the call it the iPhone 5?? it looks exactly the same... it should have been the iPhone 4.5!"
Probably not enough of a difference for me to change, but the $99 price on the older iphone 4 works out great for my fiance and I. She's changing plans when she moves up and is way overdue for an upgrade on her current 3GS.
Any opinions on Verizon versus AT&T?
And how about the new addition on Sprint as a carrier?!?
They're the only one offering an unlimited Data Plan (AT&T and Verizon only offer capped plans unless you're grandfathered in.)
I ordered my AT&T phone this morning - but all my family is on AT&T and Verizon has some goofy coverage issues in my area (West Michigan.)
Sprint 4S=Pre-ordered at store this morning. Can pick up Friday at 8AM :beers:
Went for a 32gb White.......fwiw, with my work plan I get unlimited text, voice and data for $99/month.....
Quote from: Caravan2001 on October 07, 2011, 10:05:39 PM
Sprint 4S=Pre-ordered at store this morning. Can pick up Friday at 8AM :beers:
Went for a 32gb White.......fwiw, with my work plan I get unlimited text, voice and data for $99/month.....
nice
I may be better off talking to Barnesy IRL, but is the 64GB v. 32GB worth the extra 100 bucks?
Quote from: blatboom on October 07, 2011, 10:15:35 PM
I may be better off talking to Barnesy IRL, but is the 64GB v. 32GB worth the extra 100 bucks?
It really depends on how much you think you would be using your phone to listen to music.
If you have an iPod, then no.
....if you have unlimited just us iCloud
Quote from: Multibeast12 on October 07, 2011, 10:37:45 PM
....if you have unlimited just us iCloud
which is interesting because I've been using Sprint since o4 so I'll probably stick for the unlimited data.
Quote from: blatboom on October 07, 2011, 10:15:35 PM
I may be better off talking to Barnesy IRL, but is the 64GB v. 32GB worth the extra 100 bucks?
I've had the 32 for a couple years and still have about 5 GB free. So I don't think 64 is really worth it. I only use it for music in a pinch.
It would only be worth the extra $100 IMO if it was your main music player...
what did you fill it up with? is that all apps or photos / videos, etc
I only have a 16GB and I manage things pretty effectively. 32 would be nice, 64 would be overkill.
I have 4 or 5 ipods so no real need for a 64, esp. with a 120gb classic...I have a 32gb iPad and I have it pretty loaded with all the music pix and revolving movies/tv shows/videos and I have never once wished I had a 64gb...it's overkill...My Mom bought a 64gb ipad, thought she wanted more storage instead if 3G...it was ludicrous...now she has an ipad that is only 20% full that she can never use to get on the net...silly....
Quote from: JPhishman on October 07, 2011, 11:27:47 PM
Quote from: blatboom on October 07, 2011, 10:15:35 PM
I may be better off talking to Barnesy IRL, but is the 64GB v. 32GB worth the extra 100 bucks?
I've had the 32 for a couple years and still have about 5 GB free. So I don't think 64 is really worth it. I only use it for music in a pinch.
It would only be worth the extra $100 IMO if it was your main music player...
I would agree that 64gb is overkill for most people, but there are a few scenarios where it would be useful (and worth the extra $100.)
-lots of movies/videos
-you want your music encoded as Apple Lossless(big files)
-lots of big Apps (like fancy games)
-you want to shoot lots of HD video (iPhone 4S is now 1080p)
I was able to trade up my old 3GS 16bg for a 32gb and it was nice to be able to sync a lot more music on there, and I still have over 10gb free.
We don't know how iCloud figures in, yet. They claim that streaming will be available but if you're streaming over 3G you could eat through a data plan quick (or get throttle by your Carrie.)
Quote from: racecarr on October 08, 2011, 12:07:47 PM
Quote from: JPhishman on October 07, 2011, 11:27:47 PM
Quote from: blatboom on October 07, 2011, 10:15:35 PM
I may be better off talking to Barnesy IRL, but is the 64GB v. 32GB worth the extra 100 bucks?
I've had the 32 for a couple years and still have about 5 GB free. So I don't think 64 is really worth it. I only use it for music in a pinch.
It would only be worth the extra $100 IMO if it was your main music player...
I would agree that 64gb is overkill for most people, but there are a few scenarios where it would be useful (and worth the extra $100.)
-lots of movies/videos
-you want your music encoded as Apple Lossless(big files)
-lots of big Apps (like fancy games)
-you want to shoot lots of HD video (iPhone 4S is now 1080p)
I was able to trade up my old 3GS 16bg for a 32gb and it was nice to be able to sync a lot more music on there, and I still have over 10gb free.
We don't know how iCloud figures in, yet. They claim that streaming will be available but if you're streaming over 3G you could eat through a data plan quick (or get throttle by your Carrie.)
Good points...
Quote from: slslbs on October 08, 2011, 07:47:31 AM
what did you fill it up with? is that all apps or photos / videos, etc
I'd say the majority of it is photos and backup music.
Now that I think more about it though.... the photo quality on the 3Gs is shit, so the file sizes are smaller. Good point above about the HD video too.
I still think 32 will be enough, especially if I keep my backup tunes to a minimum. It's not like I don't take my classic 160gb pretty much everywhere anyway.
I don't really plan on needing that much music on it and all the apps I already have take up relatively little space...As far as movies and tv shows, I watch most of those on my pad, and they constantly rotate anyway....Between the cloud and the ease of switching stuff in and out of my itunes, I think 16gb is do-able and 32gb is plenty.....Also, unlike other devices (computers), I think you can get pretty close to the max without sacrificing stability and performance......
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Apple has reported that iPhone 4S pre-orders topped one million units in a single day, breaking the previous single-day record held by the iPhone 4 (600,000). In fact, it was Apple's most successful first-day pre-order ever. Apple's Phil Schiller said in a press release, "We are blown away with the incredible customer response to iPhone 4S."
The iPhone 4S will be available for sale on October 14 in more than 22 countries, including Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, and Finland.
The iPhone 4S generated more opening day pre-orders than any other Apple product. Sure sounds like a "dud," eh, CNN?
iOS5 two days!
Psyched for iOS 5. Since I can't get an unlocked iPhone 4S until November, I'm happy to try out all these new features...
I've held on to my 3GS way too long in anticipation for the 4S, pretty stoked to finally utilize that upgrade after two years...
Quote from: whatapiper on October 10, 2011, 11:37:09 PM
I've held on to my 3GS way too long in anticipation for the 4S, pretty stoked to finally utilize that upgrade after two years...
Yup, same thing here that's why I'm headed to the AT&T store right now!
I'm ready for iOS5 right now.
Quote from: mattstick on October 12, 2011, 08:00:55 AM
I'm ready for iOS5 right now.
QFT
Has everyone gotten the new version 10.5 of itunes that intro's the cloud?
I installed it but haven't noticed any Cloud features.
I just logged into the new icloud.com site(just launched) but it appears you can't do anything yet without IOS5
iOS5 is up
DL'ing now!
Twitter right from Photo Roll... amazing.
email notifications... amazing.
ZOMG,.........HURRY UP! :laugh:
I'm working on iPad now...
I can't wait to play with all of this tonight.
synching ipad right now to prepare for the update.
My phone won't restore during the process. Having trouble upgrading. :-(
I'm having that problem with my iPad...
Not sure, I'm going to read through the troubleshooting guide.
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1275
...
Ok, I restarted my computer and turned the phone off and on again, plugged it back into the computer and it seems to be working
Quote from: antelope19 on October 12, 2011, 03:45:07 PM
Ok, I restarted my computer and turned the phone off and on again, plugged it back into the computer and it seems to be working
I have done all of this and still get the same problem.
Also, tried to do a "restore and update" and get the same error.
Saw this on the mac forum:
QuoteProblem solved for me, I kept trying to update and on the 4th or 5th time it worked. I noticed the progress bar on iTunes said verifying restore with apple several times so my guess is the servers there are getting overloaded. Took me about three hours all together.
Hmmmmmmmm.........not moving anywhere. It appears to be frozen.
sweet, same error message only this time it was half way through the restore and now the computer won't recognize the phone. :frustrated:
iPad seems to be working now... Fingers crossed.
Quote from: mattstick on October 12, 2011, 04:12:51 PM
iPad seems to be working now... Fingers crossed.
likewise... it is restoring all my docs and apps right now. Should be up and running shortly.
Yup, it's almost done now.
Loving the iPhone features.... for some reason I can't put Newsstand into a folder.
It will also be nice to be able to iMessage people in the USA, texts were costing me $0.75 each!
iphone has been rendered useless.
Quote from: antelope19 on October 12, 2011, 04:25:37 PM
iphone has been rendered useless.
try putting it into DFU mode (google will show you how) and trying the Restore button again
So... You can't delete photos from your iCloud photo stream?
I dig the split keyboard on ipad!!
Yikes. This is why I usually let everyone else mess with a major upgrade first to see how it goes.
Will update the iPad once the coast is clear...
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 12, 2011, 07:37:58 PM
Yikes. This is why I usually let everyone else mess with a major upgrade first to see how it goes.
Will update the iPad once the coast is clear...
same here. I'm gonna wait a few weeks before I get my iphone
Yes, I was planning on doing the same, but who was I kidding, I couldn't wait.
After 5 hours, a trip to the apple store, and a ton of frustration, I am back to square one.
At least I have a functioning phone!
:frustrated:
I will probably wait a few days until I try again. :-)
updating now...
seems to me like Apple is doing a pretty good impression of that other operating system.
is the BSOD next?
:evil:
patience is key.
never had any of that
:-P
Keep us posted on how it goes for you.
I hope you have better luck than I did.
My phone was a paper weight for a few hours there.
Just updated.
Took about an hour.
Tried to pre-order the 4S yesterday and they told me it would take 3-4 weeks to receive it. This can't be right :?
Quote from: zimbra on October 12, 2011, 10:40:39 PM
Tried to pre-order the 4S yesterday and they told me it would take 3-4 weeks to receive it. This can't be right :?
Pre-orders started last week with a million ordered on day one.
You're at the end of the line.
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 12, 2011, 09:44:04 PM
updating now...
Putting back my music and shit now...
Yeah we used to see a lot of issues with early adopters having the phone get bricked during a big update. Apple added some connection checking at iOS 4, to make sure the server would be available to re-activate your phone/ipod, but I don't know how that changes with iOS 5 (and not needing a CPU to activate.) I guess it still needs to hit the server and if it's overloaded you might get an error. Apple is smart, now, and releases the iOS update a couple days BEFORE the new phone comes out!
iTunes Match is still in BETA for developers. If you want to take advantage of other iCloud features on a Mac you gotta install 10.7.2 (just came out, too!)
:-o :frustrated: :crazy:
Quote from: slslbs on October 12, 2011, 09:45:48 PM
seems to me like Apple is doing a pretty good impression of that other operating system.
is the BSOD next?
:evil:
When Apple decides to start doing its Blackberry impression, then I'll be worried.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 13, 2011, 10:46:25 AM
Quote from: slslbs on October 12, 2011, 09:45:48 PM
seems to me like Apple is doing a pretty good impression of that other operating system.
is the BSOD next?
:evil:
When Apple decides to start doing its Blackberry impression, then I'll be worried.
RIM is doing a great job of selling iPhones this week.
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 13, 2011, 10:50:15 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 13, 2011, 10:46:25 AM
Quote from: slslbs on October 12, 2011, 09:45:48 PM
seems to me like Apple is doing a pretty good impression of that other operating system.
is the BSOD next?
:evil:
When Apple decides to start doing its Blackberry impression, then I'll be worried.
RIM is doing a great job of selling iPhones this week.
Ser. WTF?
yeah, my BB is so jacked...hope Sprint comes through for me tomorrow. They are supposed to call me tonight with a confirmation...Fingers crossed...Love the new updates, my pad is dialed and so is my wife's phone....fired up for the 4S!
Supposedly, the RIM problems are resolved... But there likely exists a significant backlog of data.
ANYWAY
Notification center is tits!
Yup. Not really surprised. Apple does android better than android does.
Quote from: antelope19 on October 13, 2011, 01:17:21 PM
Yup. Not really surprised. Apple does android better than android does.
Don't bash android when we are talking Blackberry. :shakehead:
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on October 13, 2011, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 13, 2011, 01:17:21 PM
Yup. Not really surprised. Apple does android better than android does.
Don't bash android when we are talking Blackberry. :shakehead:
I have a droid, and Apple totally does droid better than droid does
Quote from: Multibeast12 on October 13, 2011, 01:42:43 PM
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on October 13, 2011, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 13, 2011, 01:17:21 PM
Yup. Not really surprised. Apple does android better than android does.
Don't bash android when we are talking Blackberry. :shakehead:
I have a droid, and Apple totally does droid better than droid does
Such as? (being serious too)
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on October 13, 2011, 03:50:24 PM
Quote from: Multibeast12 on October 13, 2011, 01:42:43 PM
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on October 13, 2011, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 13, 2011, 01:17:21 PM
Yup. Not really surprised. Apple does android better than android does.
Don't bash android when we are talking Blackberry. :shakehead:
I have a droid, and Apple totally does droid better than droid does
Such as? (being serious too)
My IOS5 iPhone4 sounds like R2D2 when I have an alert...
So there's that.
http://shitthatsirisays.tumblr.com/
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on October 13, 2011, 03:50:24 PM
Quote from: Multibeast12 on October 13, 2011, 01:42:43 PM
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on October 13, 2011, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 13, 2011, 01:17:21 PM
Yup. Not really surprised. Apple does android better than android does.
Don't bash android when we are talking Blackberry. :shakehead:
I have a droid, and Apple totally does droid better than droid does
Such as? (being serious too)
Will start this by saying my droid is very out of date and i hate it because of that, but even though droid did the notification center first, it looks like apple really perfected it by being able to see who text you what within that notification center, where as with droid if you have more than one it jsut says that amount of unread messages. Also i like the flow of the iPhone better then droids. I haven't owned an iPhone yet but will say droids tend to become very laggy. and from what i have seen with iPhones they don't. I like the feature in IOS5 of being able to open into any of your notifications right from the lock screen, and being able to go into individual messages instead of just the broad messaging app. That is a huge pull in for me, but i can see droid coming out with it in an update for there newer phones fairly quickly.
Also, i like having the home screen being your first screen, where as droids it is the middle screen. I was using a different launcher for quite sometime until an update made it shit out on me. That is my biggest problem with Droids, while they are incredible phones with the shit they can do, they get dated very quickly, because there are so many companies that make them. Also, they make me update apps when i don't have the room for updates on my apps, and that is very very annoying.
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 14, 2011, 01:15:12 AM
http://shitthatsirisays.tumblr.com/
wow, some of those are brilliant. glad to see Apple has a sense of humor still...
I wonder if the IBM Watson people are a little pissed that they got scooped by Siri.
Has anyone else used the updated maps app? I tried it yesterday and I didn't really like it, but that could've been my situation, not necessarily the changes in the app.
Quote from: mattstick on October 14, 2011, 08:41:54 AM
I wonder if the IBM Watson people are a little pissed that they got scooped by Siri.
not the only 2001 SO > Apple connection
http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=529
QuoteWhen he tired of official reports and memoranda and minutes, he would plug his foolscap-sized Newspad into the ship's information circuit and scan the latest reports from Earth. One by one he would conjure up the world's major electronic papers; he knew the codes of the more important ones by heart, and had no need to consult the list on the back of his pad. Switching to the display unit's short-term memory, he would hold the front page while he quickly searched the headlines and noted the items that interested him.
Each had its own two-digit reference; when he punched that, the postage-stamp-sized rectangle would expand until it neatly filled the screen and he could read it with comfort. When he had finished, he would flash back to the complete page and select a new subject for detailed examination.
Floyd sometimes wondered if the Newspad, and the fantastic technology behind it, was the last word in man's quest for perfect communications. Here he was, far out in space, speeding away from Earth at thousands of miles an hour, yet in a few milliseconds he could see the headlines of any newspaper he pleased. (That very word "newspaper," of course, was an anachronistic hangover into the age of electronics.) The text was updated automatically on every hour; even if one read only the English versions, one could spend an entire lifetime doing nothing but absorbing the ever-changing flow of information from the news satellites.
It was hard to imagine how the system could be improved or made more convenient. But sooner or later, Floyd guessed, it would pass away, to be replaced by something as unimaginable as the Newspad itself would have been to Caxton or Gutenberg.
Quote from: antelope19 on October 14, 2011, 09:39:08 AM
Has anyone else used the updated maps app? I tried it yesterday and I didn't really like it, but that could've been my situation, not necessarily the changes in the app.
Heather searched for a route yesterday and it gave her a few options, which is very nice considering that most people have some idea of how to get where they're going.
I found a trick to get Newsstand into a folder on TUAW this morning. Funny stuff...
Quote from: mattstick on October 14, 2011, 09:49:54 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 14, 2011, 09:39:08 AM
Has anyone else used the updated maps app? I tried it yesterday and I didn't really like it, but that could've been my situation, not necessarily the changes in the app.
Heather searched for a route yesterday and it gave her a few options, which is very nice considering that most people have some idea of how to get where they're going.
I found a trick to get Newsstand into a folder on TUAW this morning. Funny stuff...
what's the trick?
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/10/13/that-hide-the-newsstand-trick-it-works/
QuoteLine up three apps: app 1, Newsstand, app 2. Drag app 1 onto app 2 to create a new folder and then as soon as iOS is getting ready to folder 'em, drag Newsstand into the same group. About 80% of the time, this fails. You get a folder with both apps and Newsstand left out in the cold. When you do, just drag both items back out and start again.
fwiw, I got it on the first try.
Quote from: mattstick on October 14, 2011, 09:49:54 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 14, 2011, 09:39:08 AM
Has anyone else used the updated maps app? I tried it yesterday and I didn't really like it, but that could've been my situation, not necessarily the changes in the app.
Heather searched for a route yesterday and it gave her a few options, which is very nice considering that most people have some idea of how to get where they're going.
I found a trick to get Newsstand into a folder on TUAW this morning. Funny stuff...
I saw that too.
RE: the maps
I agree that the alternate routes were nice, but my frustrations we with when I tried to go list mode. I couldn't get a straight answer. That could well have been user error too.
Deeenied.....Pre-ordered phone from Sprint pushed out three weeks, WTF!?!?! Called me last night and said there were only 16gbs and 32/64 models were three weeks out...Now that mu BBerry is back on track I am just gonna stick with it for a while.....Use my pad and touch, and figure it out....kinda bummed, but I didn;t really have the dough anyway...Last thing I need is another charge on my Amex, especially with this zillion dollar NYC trip to plan for and my ski passes needing to be bought this week....
Quote from: mattstick on October 14, 2011, 09:54:50 AM
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/10/13/that-hide-the-newsstand-trick-it-works/
QuoteLine up three apps: app 1, Newsstand, app 2. Drag app 1 onto app 2 to create a new folder and then as soon as iOS is getting ready to folder 'em, drag Newsstand into the same group. About 80% of the time, this fails. You get a folder with both apps and Newsstand left out in the cold. When you do, just drag both items back out and start again.
fwiw, I got it on the first try.
I have fat fingers - took me like 15 tries.
my new iphone 4s kicks fucking ass..
and i'm out
Quote from: jedifunk on October 14, 2011, 03:50:35 PM
my new iphone 4s kicks fucking ass..
Came in here to say this.
"Siri - post on week4paug about how much the iPhone 4S rocks"
I want one. I feel out of the loop with my 3GS.
Also, I found my 2G the other day, and MAN is that thing a piece of shit. The home row keys don't even work. It doesn't detect touch whatsoever, but it's still good as an iPod. I can only browse through the music with all the albums listed together, though. With my 160GB iPod being at a friends house 2 hours away, this makes listening to music while laying in bed or whatever a bit more convenient.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 12, 2011, 07:37:58 PM
Yikes. This is why I usually let everyone else mess with a major upgrade first to see how it goes.
Will update the iPad once the coast is clear...
Ah, screw it. Updating the iPad now.
1st post from my new iphone :-D
good thing I got it - my BB stopped working, and these guys were no help
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kAG39jKi0lI
This phone is crazy fast! Such a good decision to wait on using my upgrade. The 64gb was worth the wait alone IMO and the new hardware is just a plus!
Quote from: mattstick on October 14, 2011, 09:54:50 AM
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/10/13/that-hide-the-newsstand-trick-it-works/
QuoteLine up three apps: app 1, Newsstand, app 2. Drag app 1 onto app 2 to create a new folder and then as soon as iOS is getting ready to folder 'em, drag Newsstand into the same group. About 80% of the time, this fails. You get a folder with both apps and Newsstand left out in the cold. When you do, just drag both items back out and start again.
fwiw, I got it on the first try.
Took me 3 attempts, but I got it!
got it, but the problem is I can't move anything into or out of the newstand.
NYT wound up in the newstand. I tried to put ESPN and the Onion in, but couldn't. I tried to take NYT out, and couldn't.
At least now they're all in one folder.
At the bottom of that link it says...
QuoteUpdate: Some commenters are warning that you should not attempt to run Newsstand from a folder.
It would be nice if all the magazine companies and Apple could get along, I'd love to read SI in Newsstand rather than the SI app... but I don't know if we'll ever get to that point.
right - opening NYT from newstand causes a crash. I kept them separate.
Finally got one..stoked! Wanted one since they first came out....def not disappointed, this thing rocks.....My wife has had one for 2 or 3 years and I have had a Touch and Pad, but it's not the same obv...loving it so far for a lot of different reasons..
I don't follow this thread too closely, so forgive me if this has already been posted.
Pretty cool video though imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsBwnv_dAg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsBwnv_dAg)
Quote from: slslbs on October 16, 2011, 03:11:04 PM
good thing I got it - my BB stopped working, and these guys were no help
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kAG39jKi0lI
Ha! :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Quote from: mattstick on October 14, 2011, 08:41:54 AM
I wonder if the IBM Watson people are a little pissed that they got scooped by Siri.
Yeah, that's a very good point. Natural language interpretation was the main focus of that whole project. In fact I believe they have finally started putting it to use, working with healthcare professionals:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/358871/IBM_s_Watson_to_Diagnose_Patients
A little fancier than finding directions to a good pizza joint...
That being said I gotta day that Siri is remarkably helpful!
Has anyone started using iCloud, yet? :?
Quote from: racecarr on October 19, 2011, 12:04:58 PM
Has anyone started using iCloud, yet? :?
using it to sync my calendar and reminder list across my mbp, ipad, and 4S. its awesome.
I'm rocking the Photo Stream and syncing iCal and Reminders.
Quote from: mattstick on October 19, 2011, 12:25:35 PM
I'm rocking the Photo Stream and syncing iCal and Reminders.
yeah I'm doing photo stream as well, it's neat.
Can you not zoom on the new 4S?
do you need to upgrade ilife (iphoto, idvd, imovie) to use photostream from the mac?
Quote from: slslbs on October 19, 2011, 10:44:18 PM
do you need to upgrade ilife (iphoto, idvd, imovie) to use photostream from the mac?
I think so, but don't quote me on that.
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 19, 2011, 10:47:24 PM
Quote from: slslbs on October 19, 2011, 10:44:18 PM
do you need to upgrade ilife (iphoto, idvd, imovie) to use photostream from the mac?
I think so, but don't quote me on that.
yes, you do. there were free updates pushed out to the latest versions (iLife '11) the day iOS 5 released, and without those, Photo Stream does not work. i was pleasantly surprised when they also updated Aperture to use Photo Stream, as that is my main image hub nowadays...
iPhoto '11 is worth buying if you use iPhoto regularly.
Quote from: postjack on October 19, 2011, 01:13:58 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 19, 2011, 12:25:35 PM
I'm rocking the Photo Stream and syncing iCal and Reminders.
yeah I'm doing photo stream as well, it's neat.
Whats the difference with the photo stream? I have it too but like what new features does it have on it?
The more I think about it, the more use I can see myself getting out of the Reminders + Siri combo.
I dOnt really like the fact that you can't delete photos from photo stream. I've got fat fingers, what can I say. :-/
I've been using siri a little bit and it seems to work well. It does have a problem with my southern accent though.
Quote from: zimbra on October 26, 2011, 04:09:28 PM
I've been using siri a little bit and it seems to work well. It does have a problem with my southern accent though.
"text Molly"..... "BITCH!"
how's everyone doing with battery life?
I have no problem with "standby" mode, like some have. Yesterday I surfed the web for a while (over an hour) and made about 3 moderate length calls, and it sucked out a lot of battery. Fully charged it up in the car last night and this am. This afternoon made a few calls, about 50 minutes total, and a little surfing, and the indicator showed about 40% gone.
anyone?
I have heard others complain about battery life. I have the 4, not the 4s though.
That said, I try to avoid charging in the car because I think that over time, it kills the battery
Location Services is the ultimate battery suck.
If you have it switched on for Reminders you're gonna see your battery drain like crazy.
That part I figured out. If I'm not using the phone, it's not draining cause I've turned the shit off.
I'm a bit concerned about drainage during calls and surfing.
My screen brightness is rarely over 30%.
GMail app is out now.
Quote from: mattstick on November 02, 2011, 01:34:12 PM
GMail app is out now.
Still don't see it in the store but, I'm sure it's coming... Garageband is out for iPhone now, too.
Yeah, I had to download it through iTunes.
The only time I think I'll use it is if I have to go back and find something in a folder, which isn't particularly easy in the iPhone's Mail App.
my phones slide out key board is broke, so time for a new phone......after playing with the 4s. yeah i'm gonna get it.
Quote from: mattstick on November 02, 2011, 02:19:03 PM
Yeah, I had to download it through iTunes.
The only time I think I'll use it is if I have to go back and find something in a folder, which isn't particularly easy in the iPhone's Mail App.
pulled:
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/11/02/google-releases-official-ios-gmail-app/
Quote from: antelope19 on October 31, 2011, 11:08:55 PM
I have heard others complain about battery life. I have the 4, not the 4s though.
That said, I try to avoid charging in the car because I think that over time, it kills the battery
I have never had a battery killing issue on any of my phones. I charge it every night and never had to replace a battery early.
via HuffingtonPost:
“A small number of customers have reported lower than expected battery life on iOS 5 devices,” an Apple spokesperson told The Loop. “We have found a few bugs that are affecting battery life and we will release a software update to address those in a few weeks.”
Apple sent the same statement to AllThingD but didn't share an exact date when the iOS 5 update would be available for users to download.
MacRumors, however, notes that Apple also released a beta version of its mobile software to developers. Titled "iOS 5.0.1", the software will be available for iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, first- and second-generation iPads, and third- and fourth-generation iPod Touches. According to MacRumors, the update will fix some of users' biggest problems with devices running iOS 5, including battery life, security issues, voice recognition problems for Australian users and more.
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 03, 2011, 09:24:38 AM
via HuffingtonPost:
"A small number of customers have reported lower than expected battery life on iOS 5 devices," an Apple spokesperson told The Loop. "We have found a few bugs that are affecting battery life and we will release a software update to address those in a few weeks."
Apple sent the same statement to AllThingD but didn't share an exact date when the iOS 5 update would be available for users to download.
MacRumors, however, notes that Apple also released a beta version of its mobile software to developers. Titled "iOS 5.0.1", the software will be available for iPhone 4S, iPhone 4, first- and second-generation iPads, and third- and fourth-generation iPod Touches. According to MacRumors, the update will fix some of users' biggest problems with devices running iOS 5, including battery life, security issues, voice recognition problems for Australian users and more.
Hahaha wtf.
My battery life isn't bad and I leave my location services on for a good amount of apps.
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on November 02, 2011, 03:57:47 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 31, 2011, 11:08:55 PM
I have heard others complain about battery life. I have the 4, not the 4s though.
That said, I try to avoid charging in the car because I think that over time, it kills the battery
I have never had a battery killing issue on any of my phones. I charge it every night and never had to replace a battery early.
I charge my phone all the time without any issues either. I was told within the last year from a Verizon employee that charging your phone(specifically in the car) is bad for the battery because of the difference in voltage? Something along those lines. As he explained it, over time, it lessens the amount of charge the battery will hold. He told us that we should always charge on a computer or from the wall if possible.
Quote from: antelope19 on November 03, 2011, 03:44:58 PM
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on November 02, 2011, 03:57:47 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 31, 2011, 11:08:55 PM
I have heard others complain about battery life. I have the 4, not the 4s though.
That said, I try to avoid charging in the car because I think that over time, it kills the battery
I have never had a battery killing issue on any of my phones. I charge it every night and never had to replace a battery early.
I charge my phone all the time without any issues either. I was told within the last year from a Verizon employee that charging your phone(specifically in the car) is bad for the battery because of the difference in voltage? Something along those lines. As he explained it, over time, it lessens the amount of charge the battery will hold. He told us that we should always charge on a computer or from the wall if possible.
That guy is on crack.
You car charger converts from 12v dc to 5v dc and juices up your phone the same way your wall charger converts 110v ac to 5v dc. Just don't by a shitty one.
It's especially odd that he'd say that when he could have sold car chargers to you and the wife and increase his commission.
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 03, 2011, 07:02:53 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on November 03, 2011, 03:44:58 PM
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on November 02, 2011, 03:57:47 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 31, 2011, 11:08:55 PM
I have heard others complain about battery life. I have the 4, not the 4s though.
That said, I try to avoid charging in the car because I think that over time, it kills the battery
I have never had a battery killing issue on any of my phones. I charge it every night and never had to replace a battery early.
I charge my phone all the time without any issues either. I was told within the last year from a Verizon employee that charging your phone(specifically in the car) is bad for the battery because of the difference in voltage? Something along those lines. As he explained it, over time, it lessens the amount of charge the battery will hold. He told us that we should always charge on a computer or from the wall if possible.
That guy is on crack.
You car charger converts from 12v dc to 5v dc and juices up your phone the same way your wall charger converts 110v ac to 5v dc. Just don't by a shitty one.
It's especially odd that he'd say that when he could have sold car chargers to you and the wife and increase his commission.
Nobody seems to understand rechargeable batteries anymore.
Quote from: kellerb on November 03, 2011, 07:27:10 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 03, 2011, 07:02:53 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on November 03, 2011, 03:44:58 PM
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on November 02, 2011, 03:57:47 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 31, 2011, 11:08:55 PM
I have heard others complain about battery life. I have the 4, not the 4s though.
That said, I try to avoid charging in the car because I think that over time, it kills the battery
I have never had a battery killing issue on any of my phones. I charge it every night and never had to replace a battery early.
I charge my phone all the time without any issues either. I was told within the last year from a Verizon employee that charging your phone(specifically in the car) is bad for the battery because of the difference in voltage? Something along those lines. As he explained it, over time, it lessens the amount of charge the battery will hold. He told us that we should always charge on a computer or from the wall if possible.
That guy is on crack.
You car charger converts from 12v dc to 5v dc and juices up your phone the same way your wall charger converts 110v ac to 5v dc. Just don't by a shitty one.
It's especially odd that he'd say that when he could have sold car chargers to you and the wife and increase his commission.
Nobody seems to understand rechargeable batteries anymore.
Agreed.
Aren't the ones in iPhones suppose to not matter when you charge them, because they are built into the device and can not be taken out like other phone batteries.
The best collection of advice is at apple.com/batteries
Cliff Notes version - make sure to run the battery down to 0% on purpose at least once a month (unless you run it down through normal usage.)
Haven't seen a big change in battery life - but the location based reminders can p0wn your battery. Look for the little arrow icon in the upper right hand corner to see when location/GPS is in use.
iOS5.0.1 OTA update coming down right now!
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 10, 2011, 02:09:28 PM
iOS5.0.1 OTA update coming down right now!
Grabbing it now!
What multi-touch gestures will I have on my original iPad with this update??
Quote from: mattstick on November 10, 2011, 02:25:59 PM
What multi-touch gestures will I have on my original iPad with this update??
I'd think the ones now on the iPad 2 - 3/4 finger swipes to switch apps, bring up multitasking, etc...
now we can say "G'day mate" to Siri
it turns out Siri is pretty smart (maybe too smart)
One of my contacts is "office", which is the back line phone #
Under the contact info for me, "work" is the main number.
I told Siri to call "office" - assuming correctly that I meant my office, it called the main work #
How are your 4S batteries holding up? I feel like mine holds a charge for a good amount of time.
Has anyone signed up for itunes match yet? I'm really curious to hear some feedback.....
Quote from: zimbra on November 21, 2011, 01:40:40 PM
How are your 4S batteries holding up? I feel like mine holds a charge for a good amount of time.
I easily get 2+ days with "modest" use. I'm not one to always be looking at it.
I'll typically recharge before it gets to the bottom cause I need it for work - wouldn't be good if it died in the middle of the afternoon.
Quote from: slslbs on November 21, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
Quote from: zimbra on November 21, 2011, 01:40:40 PM
How are your 4S batteries holding up? I feel like mine holds a charge for a good amount of time.
I easily get 2+ days with "modest" use. I'm not one to always be looking at it.
I'll typically recharge before it gets to the bottom cause I need it for work - wouldn't be good if it died in the middle of the afternoon.
I'll get a day or so out of mine without a full charge and I keep my wifi & location services on. Constantly using twitter, music, safari, & texts... Are people still having an issue?
If you feel like being able to access everything on your pc or Mac on your iPhone. Checkout splashtop inc. Streamer. It's on sale now for 99cents. And is worth every penny.
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With its smartphones becoming increasingly unpopular and its PlayBook tablet a total flop, Research In Motion (RIM) is searching for a way to improve revenues. Now the company has come up with an idea that might help it remain relevant in the enterprise market. RIM has announced Mobile Fusion, a new device management tool that allows corporate IT departments to perform a number of security functions on mass deployments of iPhones, iPads, and Android smartphones.
Some of the features that will be provided when Mobile Fusion arrives are already available for iOS devices, including the ability to remotely wipe or lock devices that are lost or stolen. However, Mobile Fusion is also set to provide additional capabilities such as allowing IT departments to set password rules and control what apps are installed on a device.
RIM hopes to bring its enterprise-quality security to the iOS realm in the first quarter of 2012 and an undisclosed price that is said to be "competitive." The Mobile Fusion product runs next to existing BlackBerry Enterprise Servers behind corporate firewalls, and RIM seems confident that the product will catch the attention of companies who are deploying iOS and Android devices in large numbers.
Got a source for that?
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 29, 2011, 03:08:51 PM
Got a source for that?
Sorry!
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/11/29/rims-mobile-fusion-to-offer-iphone-security/
am I reading this wrong or does part of the function look like a "big brother" for iphones?
Quote from: slslbs on November 29, 2011, 04:23:44 PM
am I reading this wrong or does part of the function look like a "big brother" for iphones?
It is. And some of that already exists if you integrate your iPhone with a corporate network. Those kind of controls are desirable for a number of reasons from a corporate IT perspective.
Imagine if an attorney loses his blackberry. We can wipe that fucker before any privileged info is accidentally exposed. I'd think that the health care privacy rules would make such features necessary for any healthcare provider too.
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 29, 2011, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: slslbs on November 29, 2011, 04:23:44 PM
am I reading this wrong or does part of the function look like a "big brother" for iphones?
It is. And some of that already exists if you integrate your iPhone with a corporate network. Those kind of controls are desirable for a number of reasons from a corporate IT perspective.
Imagine if an attorney loses his blackberry. We can wipe that fucker before any privileged info is accidentally exposed. I'd think that the health care privacy rules would make such features necessary for any healthcare provider too.
These were my thoughts exactly. People will say that this is an invasion of privacy and it allows people to spy on us and so forth. IMO, if you are dumb enough to think doing fradulent activity on a smart phone was safe previously you are
in an idiot and deserve all consequences.
I agree. I have mine set up it to wipe itself with > 10 unsuccessful passwords and have the ability to do it remotely wipe it in case it gets lost or stolen.
I was referring more to the ability to control what apps get downloaded.
For instance, the network at the hospital limits downloads for security reasons, so that a virus doesn't inadvertently infect the network. It also blocks ESPN, Zagats, and similar entertainment sites because you shouldn't be looking at those at work. They remotely removed FF from my pc a while back because they couldn't control it as well as IE. I have no issue - it is their pc on their network in their building.
but - I wouldn't want them blocking me from d/l ESPNs app or other entertainment apps on my iphone.
Quote from: slslbs on November 29, 2011, 06:26:53 PM
I agree. I have mine set up for that and have the ability to do it remotely wipe it in case it gets lost or stolen.
I was referring more to the ability to control what apps get downloaded.
For instance, the network at the hospital limits downloads for security reasons, so that a virus doesn't inadvertently infect the network. It also blocks ESPN, Zagats, and similar entertainment sites because you shouldn't be looking at those at work. I wouldn't want them blocking me from d/l ESPNs app on my iphone.
Oh ok. They wouldn't be able too unless you are using the hospital's network, I think? I may be misunderstanding you still.
Quote from: zimbra on November 29, 2011, 06:04:44 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 29, 2011, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: slslbs on November 29, 2011, 04:23:44 PM
am I reading this wrong or does part of the function look like a "big brother" for iphones?
It is. And some of that already exists if you integrate your iPhone with a corporate network. Those kind of controls are desirable for a number of reasons from a corporate IT perspective.
Imagine if an attorney loses his blackberry. We can wipe that fucker before any privileged info is accidentally exposed. I'd think that the health care privacy rules would make such features necessary for any healthcare provider too.
These were my thoughts exactly. People will say that this is an invasion of privacy and it allows people to spy on us and so forth. IMO, if you are dumb enough to think doing fradulent activity on a smart phone was safe previously you are in an idiot and deserve all consequences.
It's not even remotely an invasion of privacy. These features only exist when installed by your employer onto a phone that they provide. This sort of thing has been on Blackberries for years and is why they are still the most used device in legal and government IT. RIM is looking to broaden their customer base even while they lose their foothold in the handset realm. Make sense to me.
Im waiting for the iphone 4s to be back in stock, is this better than any of the other smart phones? I think it is but ive never really played with one or anyother kind of smart phone
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 29, 2011, 06:30:55 PM
Quote from: zimbra on November 29, 2011, 06:04:44 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 29, 2011, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: slslbs on November 29, 2011, 04:23:44 PM
am I reading this wrong or does part of the function look like a "big brother" for iphones?
It is. And some of that already exists if you integrate your iPhone with a corporate network. Those kind of controls are desirable for a number of reasons from a corporate IT perspective.
Imagine if an attorney loses his blackberry. We can wipe that fucker before any privileged info is accidentally exposed. I'd think that the health care privacy rules would make such features necessary for any healthcare provider too.
These were my thoughts exactly. People will say that this is an invasion of privacy and it allows people to spy on us and so forth. IMO, if you are dumb enough to think doing fradulent activity on a smart phone was safe previously you are in an idiot and deserve all consequences.
It's not even remotely an invasion of privacy. These features only exist when installed by your employer onto a phone that they provide. This sort of thing has been on Blackberries for years and is why they are still the most used device in legal and government IT. RIM is looking to broaden their customer base even while they lose their foothold in the handset realm. Make sense to me.
Makes since to me too, that's not what I was saying... I was saying that I agreed with you, and was simply stating what the other side's argument would be.
I'm not calling it an invasion of privacy - it's all their stuff. They have a similar deal now - if I use their wifi network as an employee I have to register my device with them so they can watch what I'm doing on their network. I choose to just use 3G (don't mind the slightly slower speed) to get around it. It's fine and makes sense from a security standpoint.
doesn't mean I have to like it, and will try simple measures to avoid scrutiny.
regardless, I stay away from any site that will embarrass me if it became public (maybe I have more faith in you all than I should ;) )
I'm glad my company's still small enough that I'm the defacto IT guy. I would not like it if I had to have a passcode on my iPhone in order to get company e-mail (as is the case with my wife's company). They pay for my plan but didn't pay for the device itself.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on November 30, 2011, 02:09:52 PM
I'm glad my company's still small enough that I'm the defacto IT guy. I would not like it if I had to have a passcode on my iPhone in order to get company e-mail (as is the case with my wife's company). They pay for my plan but didn't pay for the device itself.
Here at my company I supply the phones and have the ability to wipe and monitor everything. In the future, I may just provide a stipend for monthly charges and allow users to choose devices, but in order to get email you have to let me be able to monitor and wipe your phone.
I read about this really briefly and it sounds pretty sweet from an IT side.
Some of the rules of security also depend on the industry. When I was in banking, I was really tight on security, obviously. When I worked for a coffee manufacturer, we were pretty loose. Some just depends on the type of data.
My iPhone is personal. Never again will I rely solely on a work-supplied phone.
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 30, 2011, 04:24:08 PM
My iPhone is personal. Never again will I rely solely on a work-supplied phone.
I rely solely on a work supplied phone... But I also have an iPad with me at all times for personal stuff.
Soooooo....I can't be the first person to read about this this, but did you know that you can use your Apple headphones as a remote camera shutter?
Since Apple allowed the volume + button to take pictures, it also allows the volume control on your headphones to do the same.
Some of you may ask why this matters? But it eliminates the "shake" of your hand. Most cameras come with this function anyway(image stabilizer), but your iphone doesn't.....
Quote from: antelope19 on December 01, 2011, 12:07:09 AM
Soooooo....I can't be the first person to read about this this, but did you know that you can use your Apple headphones as a remote camera shutter?
Since Apple allowed the volume + button to take pictures, it also allows the volume control on your headphones to do the same.
Some of you may ask why this matters? But it eliminates the "shake" of your hand. Most cameras come with this function anyway(image stabilizer), but your iphone doesn't.....
So you're getting a tripod?
Quote from: antelope19 on December 01, 2011, 12:07:09 AM
Soooooo....I can't be the first person to read about this this, but did you know that you can use your Apple headphones as a remote camera shutter?
Since Apple allowed the volume + button to take pictures, it also allows the volume control on your headphones to do the same.
Some of you may ask why this matters? But it eliminates the "shake" of your hand. Most cameras come with this function anyway(image stabilizer), but your iphone doesn't.....
The app Camera+ has a stabilizer feature. I haven't tested it enough to know if it's at all helpful, but it's there as a software function at least.
This loyal Apple customer found this anti-Apple ad to be pretty clever:
http://youtu.be/X4VHzNEWIqA (http://youtu.be/X4VHzNEWIqA)
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6648229/siri-argument
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on December 26, 2011, 07:23:47 PM
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6648229/siri-argument
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
LMAO!!!
good stuff! lol
4S ordered, switching to Verizon :crazy:
Quote from: blatboom on January 10, 2012, 06:52:28 PM
4S ordered, switching to Verizon :crazy:
good move. you won't regret it. I'm not due for an upgrade for almost another two years, so I'm gonna buy my buddys 4 when he gets his 4S next month.
up and running. I feel like a better person already
you are
just ask the spirit of Steve Jobs
Since I'm waiting on the jailbreak (hasn't hit yet for A5 devices) before getting the 4S, I'm thinking about upgrading to 5.0.1 on my 3GS. But there are lots of horror stores about how it's crippled those devices a la what iOS 4 did to the 3G.
Anyone else running 5 on a 3GS? How's it working?
Made the upgrade to 4S. So far quite happy with the bump in performance. The improved screen is nice, too.
Anyone wanna buy a 3GS? :-D
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on January 26, 2012, 10:24:04 AM
Made the upgrade to 4S. So far quite happy with the bump in performance. The improved screen is nice, too.
Anyone wanna buy a 3GS? :-D
Turn it on airplane mode and use it as an iPod touch
Quote from: antelope19 on January 26, 2012, 12:39:38 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on January 26, 2012, 10:24:04 AM
Made the upgrade to 4S. So far quite happy with the bump in performance. The improved screen is nice, too.
Anyone wanna buy a 3GS? :-D
Turn it on airplane mode and use it as an iPod touch
Yeah, though between having the new phone and my iPod mini, I'd rather sell the thing and get the cash.
http://www.cashforiphones.com/indexb.php
I am super psyched about getting an iPhone4 next month. I'm not due for an upgrade for another year and a half, but my buddy has a 4, but has an upgrade next month, and he's gonna sell me his 4.
very excited. :crazy:
Literally 3 days after my contract ended, my crappy Android phone bit the dust in a big big way. (Good timing, eh?)
So as of 2 days ago I'm the proud owner of a new 4S, and I can already tell there's no way I'd ever go back. Holy smokes, this is where it's at.
:banana:
Phone updated to 5.1 We'll see what, if any, improvement it makes.
Quote from: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 03:52:39 PM
Phone updated to 5.1 We'll see what, if any, improvement it makes.
Is it too soon for a report? I have yet to make the switch, but the trigger finger is getting itchy...
Quote from: pcr3 on March 17, 2012, 04:43:50 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 07, 2012, 03:52:39 PM
Phone updated to 5.1 We'll see what, if any, improvement it makes.
Is it too soon for a report? I have yet to make the switch, but the trigger finger is getting itchy...
I'm using it on my iPhone 4. I like it and it works great.
I love the "swipe for camera" from the home screen in iOS 5.1
Quote from: mattstick on March 17, 2012, 06:18:52 PM
I love the "swipe for camera" from the home screen in iOS 5.1
This.
It's cool.
Thanks all. Installing now.
Finally making the jump. iPhone 4s next week. Not sure how I feel about it.
Quote from: shoreline99 on March 20, 2012, 04:32:53 PM
Finally making the jump. iPhone 4s next week. Not sure how I feel about it.
Feel good about it.
if you don't feel good about it now, you will when you actually get it.
Quote from: mattstick on March 17, 2012, 06:18:52 PM
I love the "swipe for camera" from the home screen in iOS 5.1
it's very sweet - but would be much cooler if i could have it open Camera+ that way instead of the built-in Camera app...
Fiancé just joined me in a Verizon plan and she upgraded to the 4s from the 3GS. I def wouldn't spend the money to upgrade from my 4. Hopefully, there will be some significant upgrades with the next gen.
is it any more or less detrimental to long-term battery life to charge off the comp v. wall socket?
I don't think so. Besides, you'll probably lose it before you'd notice a difference. :wink:
why you gotta bring up old shit
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Btw, we mentioned this before. There's a rumor ou there that car chargers may damage batteries. I've never had a problem but according to the guy at the Apple store car chargers may mess up the calibration. In other words, it may tell you that the battery is fully charged but it's not. This may affect long term performance.
i've used my car carger a few times and haven't had an issue, but I'll probably keep it just for emergencies from here on out.
Liking it so far. Keyboard is taking a bit to get used to. Who's got my hetty app and case recommendations?
amazon essentials has a good case for about $8-9. It looks and feels a little clunkier than some of the other ones, but the hole on top is acutally big enough for the headphone jack. Before I got that one, I bought one in the Apple store that's better looking but couldn't handle my sure earphones
one of my wife's relatives is making 1st communion. I asked Siri for the location of a religious store.
Among the answer's I got back were
I believe in the separation of Church and silicone
I believe in Siliconism
Quote from: shoreline99 on April 04, 2012, 07:32:27 AM
Liking it so far. Keyboard is taking a bit to get used to. Who's got my hetty app and case recommendations?
although a bit pricey, an Otterbox is the way to go, if you're looking for a durable, long-lasting case.
As for apps, I love my LMA app (archive.org) as well as my LivePhish app. I use the LMA a lot more, though. I use the NHL gamecenter a lot, but if you're not a paying member, it's only good for checking scores. It won't be of use much longer, though...
I also have my home screen set up with a week4paug icon to where when I click on it, it opens up the "show unread posts since last visit" page. It's very helpful and convenient when reading posts on the go. It also has a cool Phish logo as the icon...
eta - ESPN's ScoreCenter is awesome as well... I use it a ton.
I told Siri to remind me to buy Phish tickets tomorrow... and the clever gal knew I meant "Phish" and not "fish".
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on April 26, 2012, 04:51:44 PM
I told Siri to remind me to buy Phish tickets tomorrow... and the clever gal knew I meant "Phish" and not "fish".
(http://img.hsmagazine.net/2011/10/guinness-brilliant.jpg)
So, if I buy my wife a new 4S to replace her iphone 3, can I use her old one as an ipod touch without any AT&T access pretty easily?
Quote from: PIE-GUY on May 10, 2012, 11:41:58 AM
So, if I buy my wife a new 4S to replace her iphone 3, can I use her old one as an ipod touch without any AT&T access pretty easily?
Yes, just take out the SIM. Or, you could wipe it, restore it and sell it. I've sold 3 old iPhones and got decent money for all of them. Just recently I sold my co-worker's used iPhone 4 for $370 on Amazon. (More like $340 after commission and shipping.) That more than covered the upgrade fee she paid to get the 4S.
Quote from: PIE-GUY on May 10, 2012, 11:41:58 AM
So, if I buy my wife a new 4S to replace her iphone 3, can I use her old one as an ipod touch without any AT&T access pretty easily?
Yes, I was doing that with my iPhone 3 for a while, but the problem I had was that a lot of the apps have been updated for the newer iOS and the iPhone 3 can't handle it. But if you're just looking for an iPod and Safari with wifi, definitely.
Also, can one of you Apple dudes in the know tell me if the iPhone 5 really isn't going to be released until the fall? I was really hoping to dump my shitty Android this summer.
Most likely, this fall, yes.
Quote from: mattstick on May 10, 2012, 12:37:21 PM
Most likely, this fall, yes.
Certainly not before the Fall.
Looking forward to it, myself.
I will qualify for an upgrade, but I may run out my contract on an iPhone 4, then buy an unlocked iPhone the following year.
These 7" iPad rumors could make it the big summer release for Apple.
Quote from: mattstick on May 10, 2012, 12:37:21 PM
Most likely, this fall, yes.
Well fuck it then. I'll pull the trigger on the 4S now and dump it off on my wife when the 5 comes out and her phone is all upgradey early next year.
The recent update to the google app is pretty sweet. So much faster now.
So on my phone summary on iTunes, there is a category called other. What exactly is this and why is it taking up 3 gigs of memory?
Probably data used within apps. Not actual apps, but content you've saved to your phone within that app.
Make sense?
Quote from: mattstick on June 05, 2012, 09:07:22 PM
Probably data used within apps. Not actual apps, but content you've saved to your phone within that app.
Make sense?
Yeah, that makes sense. Is it normal for that to be 3 gigs and I only have 1 gig and change in actual apps? Sorry, I'm not well versed in this stuff. Thanks for helping.
Quote from: barnesy305 on June 05, 2012, 10:16:08 PM
Quote from: mattstick on June 05, 2012, 09:07:22 PM
Probably data used within apps. Not actual apps, but content you've saved to your phone within that app.
Make sense?
Yeah, that makes sense. Is it normal for that to be 3 gigs and I only have 1 gig and change in actual apps? Sorry, I'm not well versed in this stuff. Thanks for helping.
Depends on what apps you run.
If you use apps like InstaCast which downloads podcasts, the datastore will add up.
Google chrome and drive available on iPhone/iPad today. Also, 40 years of Atari games available for free today.
I installed chrome. Even though I use it
On my MBP, I'm not sure what the difference will be on ios
Quote from: slslbs on June 28, 2012, 08:03:19 PM
I installed chrome. Even though I use it
On my MBP, I'm not sure what the difference will be on ios
it's just a wrapper for Safari - as in, not using the Chrome engine to render pages. so, a bit of a waste for me... though i do like the features and sync ability, but overall it's slower than Safari so what's the point?
With the upcoming sync of safari on ios6, chrome may lose me...
Wasn't really sure where to put this:
http://www.tuaw.com/2012/08/31/cassette-to-ipod-converter-will-digitize-your-tapes/
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If you have a box of cassette tapes left over from your Walkman days, then you might want to pay a visit to Hammacher Schlemmer. The online retailer is selling a cassette to iPod converter that could help you finally clear those aging tapes from your shelves.
The device is a cradle case with a cassette player that attaches to your iPhone or iPod touch. A free app lets you convert the incoming audio from the player to an mp3 file, which can then be downloaded to your computer. If you like the sound of tape-based music, you can even attach your phone to some speakers and listen to the cassette while it plays.
The Cassette to iPod Converter is available for US$80 and will ship at the end of September.
Quote from: antelope19 on August 31, 2012, 03:24:36 PM
Wasn't really sure where to put this:
http://www.tuaw.com/2012/08/31/cassette-to-ipod-converter-will-digitize-your-tapes/
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If you have a box of cassette tapes left over from your Walkman days, then you might want to pay a visit to Hammacher Schlemmer. The online retailer is selling a cassette to iPod converter that could help you finally clear those aging tapes from your shelves.
The device is a cradle case with a cassette player that attaches to your iPhone or iPod touch. A free app lets you convert the incoming audio from the player to an mp3 file, which can then be downloaded to your computer. If you like the sound of tape-based music, you can even attach your phone to some speakers and listen to the cassette while it plays.
The Cassette to iPod Converter is available for US$80 and will ship at the end of September.
I wonder if it would play the tape and then relay it via bluetooth? That would be innovative.
Media event on September 12!
Quote from: antelope19 on September 04, 2012, 07:45:09 PM
Media event on September 12!
So, we'll see if all the media outlets that have been referring to a forthcoming "iPhone 5" are dumb or not... The iPhone 4, you may recall, was the 4th version of the device (original, 3G, 3GS, 4)... the 4S was the 5th... so the next version would logically be called the 6, not the 5.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's going to be called the 5. Check the invitation
Quote from: antelope19 on September 04, 2012, 10:58:02 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's going to be called the 5. Check the invitation
Well... I suppose you can't argue with that.
I still say it's incorrect. :-P
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on September 04, 2012, 11:05:00 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 04, 2012, 10:58:02 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's going to be called the 5. Check the invitation
Well... I suppose you can't argue with that.
I still say it's incorrect. :-P
Given that you aren't the Apple product specialist, I'd say it is you who are wrong.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 05, 2012, 07:27:00 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on September 04, 2012, 11:05:00 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 04, 2012, 10:58:02 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's going to be called the 5. Check the invitation
Well... I suppose you can't argue with that.
I still say it's incorrect. :-P
Given that you aren't the Apple product specialist, I'd say it is you who are wrong.
My logic is ironclad. Steve Jobs would have agreed. The ship is sinking! :crazy:
Hopefully you realize that the body shape of the phones changes with the number, it's not a sequential listing of device models.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on September 05, 2012, 08:00:45 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 05, 2012, 07:27:00 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on September 04, 2012, 11:05:00 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 04, 2012, 10:58:02 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's going to be called the 5. Check the invitation
Well... I suppose you can't argue with that.
I still say it's incorrect. :-P
Given that you aren't the Apple product specialist, I'd say it is you who are wrong.
My logic is ironclad. Steve Jobs would have agreed. The ship is sinking! :crazy:
Jobs would be the first to tell you that the product is what he says it is, and nothing else.
/read the book
Quote from: mattstick on September 05, 2012, 08:04:55 AM
Hopefully you realize that the body shape of the phones changes with the number, it's not a sequential listing of device models.
Sounds a little like the tail wagging the dog, no?
Apple can do what the hell they want, obviously. No doubt marketing drives a lot of what are, ultimately, superficial decisions like naming. I'm just saying it would be a departure from the seeming precedent set by the 4. (Maybe that was just accidental and coincidental.) Beyond that, I ain't gonna lose much sleep over this.......
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on September 05, 2012, 08:46:38 AM
Quote from: mattstick on September 05, 2012, 08:04:55 AM
Hopefully you realize that the body shape of the phones changes with the number, it's not a sequential listing of device models.
Sounds a little like the tail wagging the dog, no?
Apple can do what the hell they want, obviously. No doubt marketing drives a lot of what are, ultimately, superficial decisions like naming. I'm just saying it would be a departure from the seeming precedent set by the 4. (Maybe that was just accidental and coincidental.) Beyond that, I ain't gonna lose much sleep over this.......
before the invite, i'd just say to prepare for "the new iPhone" - but the 5 makes it pretty clear it will be the 5.
as RJ (and SJ) said, the product is what it is when they tell you what it is.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on September 05, 2012, 08:46:38 AM
Sounds a little like the tail wagging the dog, no?
Apple can do what the hell they want, obviously. No doubt marketing drives a lot of what are, ultimately, superficial decisions like naming. I'm just saying it would be a departure from the seeming precedent set by the 4. (Maybe that was just accidental and coincidental.) Beyond that, I ain't gonna lose much sleep over this.......
Actually it sounds like a pretty reasonable product identification scheme.
Yes, Apple can do what they want, but they know when to temper expectations (4S) and build them up (5).
The body shape naming scheme precedent extends from the 3G/3GS to the 4/4S and it doesn't look like they're changing it now. I'm not sure even what you're trying to argue, but it seems silly.
Quote from: mattstick on September 05, 2012, 12:48:27 PM
I'm not sure even what you're trying to argue, but it seems silly.
Was I unclear? All I said was that the iPhone 4 was the 4th version of the device, so
IF that was any precedent, you could logically call the 6th version of it the 6. But clearly they can and will call it whatever they want, and it won't bother me in the slightest........ As long as those three whole shares of Apple stock I own keep going up, up, up in value, I'm a happy camper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyZ7oU0tUR8
At least we could get a Simpsons clip out of this, yes, silly discussion.
If I recall, the term "3G" was a real buzzword around the time of the 2nd generation iPhone, and Apple wanted to cash in on that. Hence the somewhat straightforward but otherwise confusing naming scheme.
no more confusing than ipad, ipad 2, and "the new ipad"
what will I call my ipad next year, when it's no longer new and there is another generation?
Quote from: slslbs on September 05, 2012, 05:31:39 PM
no more confusing than ipad, ipad 2, and "the new ipad"
what will I call my ipad next year, when it's no longer new and there is another generation?
Your wife's iPad.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 06, 2012, 08:50:31 AM
Quote from: slslbs on September 05, 2012, 05:31:39 PM
no more confusing than ipad, ipad 2, and "the new ipad"
what will I call my ipad next year, when it's no longer new and there is another generation?
Your wife's iPad.
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Quote from: PIE-GUY on September 06, 2012, 08:52:40 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 06, 2012, 08:50:31 AM
Quote from: slslbs on September 05, 2012, 05:31:39 PM
no more confusing than ipad, ipad 2, and "the new ipad"
what will I call my ipad next year, when it's no longer new and there is another generation?
Your wife's iPad.
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Quote from: antelope19 on September 06, 2012, 09:17:11 AM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on September 06, 2012, 08:52:40 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 06, 2012, 08:50:31 AM
Quote from: slslbs on September 05, 2012, 05:31:39 PM
no more confusing than ipad, ipad 2, and "the new ipad"
what will I call my ipad next year, when it's no longer new and there is another generation?
Your wife's iPad.
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
:-D
now why didn't I think of that
For those of you that are tired of the web based google play 'app', try melodies. Just search google play in the app store. There's both a paid and free version. IMO, the free version is already light years ahead. Love it so far
Quote from: antelope19 on September 15, 2012, 10:53:28 AM
For those of you that are tired of the web based google play 'app', try melodies. Just search google play in the app store. There's both a paid and free version. IMO, the free version is already light years ahead. Love it so far
I use gMusic on my ipad. Works great. the Web based app sucks donkey balls.
Agreed. That's why I was happy when I found this free alternative.
thanks
I was initially optimistic about google play but after using it, or trying to use it, it just faded away
Quote from: slslbs on September 16, 2012, 10:08:17 AM
thanks
I was initially optimistic about google play but after using it, or trying to use it, it just faded away
The simple fact that melodies can run in the background is a huge upgrade over the other IMO.
Just dl'd ios 6 on my iphone 4. Loving it so far.
Anyone else having wifi connectivity issues?
Nm. Renew lease for those having this problem.
installing now...
Installing now in the iPad 3. Looking forward to my experience with Siri!
installing on the phone, d/l ing on the ipad.
question for those with ios6 and Mtn Lion -
if you go to a p/w protected site on Safari (like this one), and then go to it for the 1st time on an ios device, will the cloud transfer the u/n and p.w over to the ios device or do you need to manually re-enter it?
Not sure what the answer is to your question.
I came in here to report how much I like the fact that you can make your browsing window larger now in landscape view.
Easy update.
Maps is cool so far. Wait'll I actually need it for something, though.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 20, 2012, 08:21:00 AM
Maps is cool so far. Wait'll I actually need it for something, though.
Really? I'm interested to hear everybody's experiences with this.
Maps is the main reason I've been reluctant to update. I keep reading terrible things.
The maps are nicer, so are directions.
The search function within the Maps app is much, much worse.
Thought we were supposed to get turn by turn directions. Am I doing some thing wrong? (Most likely) can someone explain how to do that....
I used it this morning - hit some traffic and had to use the back roads. told siri to get from current location to work. I first said the name of the building, which it didn't get right (problem with all voice recognition software, imo). I then said current location to the address. It calculated the route, I pushed start, and it worked just like a GPS with verbal turn by turn instructions and pictoral display.
If you hit the icon with a few lines on the lower L hand corner of the screen, you can get a written description of the route like before. also, if you "turn the page", there are the options for traffic, satellite, standard, etc.
I wouldn't use it on a long trip because of what I guess it might do to the battery, other than that it looks perfectly fine to me.
Maybe I don't get the turn by turn directions with the iPhone 4. I don't have Siri.
that's the issue. siri is required.
Apple is getting ripped over their new maps. Most everything I'm reading is pretty negative.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 21, 2012, 10:59:32 AM
Apple is getting ripped over their new maps. Most everything I'm reading is pretty negative.
Here's a piece I was reading yesterday (http://gizmodo.com/5944897/17-people-apple-maps-has-already-horribly-misled). I use Maps a fair bit to find things, so this would have me in no hurry to upgrade even if I wasn't waiting on a jailbreak.
Just use Google Maps in Chrome browser. Not updating is silly.
(http://www.blogcdn.com//media/2012/09/a3qlphucqaascjz.jpg)
http://counternotions.com/2012/09/21/applemaps/
A piece with many valid points.
Quote from: mattstick on September 21, 2012, 11:24:55 AM
Just use Google Maps in Chrome browser. Not updating is silly.
Yeah, I was admittedly a little put off by all the negative reports, but in the end I just put the link to Google maps on my home screen right next to Apple maps and I'll use whichever works better for me. Not really a big crisis.
Edit: It's just an aesthetic thing, not really useful, but I do really like the neighborhood names thing in Apple maps.
I was given bad driving directions more than once by Google maps. Distances have been off (not talking about 0.1 mile, but significant), I was told to turn L on 30West when in fact 30 west required a R turn (yes - I was coming from the proper direction).
Quote from: mattstick on September 21, 2012, 11:24:55 AM
Just use Google Maps in Chrome browser. Not updating is silly.
Fair enough re: the maps aspect. I still will wait on an untethered jailbreak, though.
Just got back to the apple store. I wanted to see if it was worth all the hype. I was certainly impressed with how light it was and my concern about it being too big was silly. The thing looks and feels great and I'll def. be upgrading when I get the chance.
Some interesting insight I found:
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There seems to be a huge misunderstanding as to why Apple's map app isn't working as well as it could/should be. They don't have to remap the world, TomTom has already done that for Apple. It's the software itself that is simply not reading TomTom's data correctly. The data is there and correct, as you can tell from any other software developer who is using TomTom's data. All Apple needs to do is figure out why their software is incorrectly outputting the data. This Map app problem won't be around for long.
I updated the day iOS6 came out, but this morning my Safari bookmarks were missing... anyone else?
Quote from: mattstick on September 24, 2012, 03:11:19 PM
I updated the day iOS6 came out, but this morning my Safari bookmarks were missing... anyone else?
I did not have that issue.......
Here's what my bookmarks looks like now...
Very Strange
no problem here
Yeah, the problem fixed itself after a couple of days. Back to normal bookmarks now.
October 7th can't get here soon enough.
I know this may be hilarious to some of you here but I'm contemplating buying a 3gs 16gb and was wondering what would be a decent price to pay for one. Everything I've seen is in the $150 to 200 range.
I want it mainly for shooting pics and movies of our little girl. I hate carrying around a cam and always have my ipod touch with me so thought the 3gs could work for both.
You can probably get a 4 for free with a plan from Bell or Rogers.
Quote from: mattstick on September 27, 2012, 09:15:59 AM
You can probably get a 4 for free with a plan from Bell or Rogers.
Yeah I know but all of the plans are like $50 + a month and I just can't bring myself to shell out $600 + a year on a phone. To put it in perspective, I've made it this far in life without a cell phone :|
I didn't even plan on activating it and if I did, I would set up a pay as you go.
An unlocked 3GS is still going to cost you around $250... If you don't plan on activating it, how different is it from your existing iPod Touch?
A new iPod Touch is only $199.
Quote from: mattstick on September 27, 2012, 10:23:34 AM
An unlocked 3GS is still going to cost you around $250... If you don't plan on activating it, how different is it from your existing iPod Touch?
A new iPod Touch is only $199.
My Touch doesn't have a camera so, I think it's 1st or 2nd gen. I found a 3gs on Telus for $150, doesn't mean I have to have a plan, right? I thought about grabbing a new Touch but they're going for $299 here.
not sure what you see in the Canadian version of the Apple store, but a refurbished 4th Gen touch is $209 here: http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC544LL/A/refurbished-ipod-touch-32gb-black (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC544LL/A/refurbished-ipod-touch-32gb-black)
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on September 27, 2012, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: mattstick on September 27, 2012, 10:23:34 AM
An unlocked 3GS is still going to cost you around $250... If you don't plan on activating it, how different is it from your existing iPod Touch?
A new iPod Touch is only $199.
My Touch doesn't have a camera so, I think it's 1st or 2nd gen. I found a 3gs on Telus for $150, doesn't mean I have to have a plan, right? I thought about grabbing a new Touch but they're going for $299 here.
http://store.apple.com/ca/product/FC540/refurbished-ipod-touch-8gb-black
http://store.apple.com/ca/product/FC544/refurbished-ipod-touch-32gb-black
Thanks guys for all the input, I'm gonna weigh the pros and cons of the iphone and touch and make a decision tonight.
Did someone from MS infiltrate Apple?
Maps was very buggy on my recent trip to Cali. Sometimes it worked- more than once it didn't update properly going from one place to another, Siri stopped giving me turn by turn directions. A few times it couldn't find the location I typed in. It also sent me to the wrong place (I knew it was wrong by looking at the map- I didn't waste my time getting lost)
App update is having problems, too. It has been freezing in the middle of re-installs. I went to the Mac forum. The simplest, least invasive answer was shutting off wifi and turning it back on. I had to do this a few times, it would update one or two apps, then freeze again, but it eventually worked.
:frustrated:
For those of you who don't have Siri(like me), Google just did a major update to their search app. including a much better voice search option!
It is nice being able to post pics to the paug directly from my iPhone.
Did not know we could do that!
Check out these Pigeons in the subway
Woah! Pidgeons!
New feature shows its worth!
Quote from: mattstick on October 30, 2012, 08:24:43 PM
Did not know we could do that!
Check out these Pigeons in the subway
Quote from: mattstick on October 30, 2012, 09:41:37 PM
Man, I'd really been wondering what those album covers pigeons looked like...
:wink:
Quote from: antelope19 on October 30, 2012, 04:44:47 PM
For those of you who don't have Siri(like me), Google just did a major update to their search app. including a much better voice search option!
Siri has basically not been working for me at all recently, anyone else?
These are pigeons, indoors, underground, in the subway.
How did they get there?
Were they trying to avoid the bad weather?
How did they know which train to take?
Quote from: mattstick on October 31, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
These are pigeons, indoors, underground, in the subway.
How did they get there?
Were they trying to avoid the bad weather?
How did they know which train to take?
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Mind = Blown
Pigeons are rats with feathers. They belong in the subways.
Obvious post is obvious.
[stupid question]
What am I doing wrong here?
How do I get itunes to not (try to) install ipad apps on the iphone and vice versa?
It's really frustrating when I plug the ipad in to sync and it starts installing all of my iphone apps.
[/stupid question]
There is a Sync New Apps function in iTunes, make sure it's unchecked.
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 30, 2012, 08:00:21 PM
It is nice being able to post pics to the paug directly from my iPhone.
Woah I had no idea we could do that now. Awesome!
Quote from: mattstick on October 31, 2012, 10:05:07 AM
There is a Sync New Apps function in iTunes, make sure it's unchecked.
Thanks, I'll give it a shot
Quote from: natronzero on October 31, 2012, 10:30:43 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 30, 2012, 08:00:21 PM
It is nice being able to post pics to the paug directly from my iPhone.
Woah I had no idea we could do that now. Awesome!
FACK!! That's not in Austin, is it? That looks fucking delicious!!
Quote from: PIE-GUY on October 31, 2012, 12:22:52 PM
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Quote from: rowjimmy on October 30, 2012, 08:00:21 PM
It is nice being able to post pics to the paug directly from my iPhone.
Woah I had no idea we could do that now. Awesome!
FACK!! That's not in Austin, is it? That looks fucking delicious!!
Sadly no, it's from Sam's #3 in Denver. It was just the most appealing picture in my album to test it with. :lol:
I hear though that The Frisco Shop makes a mean CFS & Eggs. I haven't been there in too long, so you'd probably know better than me.
Quote from: natronzero on October 31, 2012, 12:31:50 PM
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Quote from: rowjimmy on October 30, 2012, 08:00:21 PM
It is nice being able to post pics to the paug directly from my iPhone.
Woah I had no idea we could do that now. Awesome!
FACK!! That's not in Austin, is it? That looks fucking delicious!!
Sadly no, it's from Sam's #3 in Denver. It was just the most appealing picture in my album to test it with. :lol:
I hear though that The Frisco Shop makes a mean CFS & Eggs. I haven't been there in too long, so you'd probably know better than me.
The real problem is that nobody in this town knows how to make proper hash browns. That's the element that stood out in your pic. Those look good.
Quote from: PIE-GUY on October 31, 2012, 12:36:29 PM
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Quote from: rowjimmy on October 30, 2012, 08:00:21 PM
It is nice being able to post pics to the paug directly from my iPhone.
Woah I had no idea we could do that now. Awesome!
FACK!! That's not in Austin, is it? That looks fucking delicious!!
Sadly no, it's from Sam's #3 in Denver. It was just the most appealing picture in my album to test it with. :lol:
I hear though that The Frisco Shop makes a mean CFS & Eggs. I haven't been there in too long, so you'd probably know better than me.
The real problem is that nobody in this town knows how to make proper hash browns. That's the element that stood out in your pic. Those look good.
Totally. Sam's hash browns are so simple, but so good.
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 30, 2012, 08:00:21 PM
It is nice being able to post pics to the paug directly from my iPhone.
yeah, that's a seriously amazing feature in iOS 6 that we needed years ago... but better late than never!
Quote from: tet on October 31, 2012, 12:54:46 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 30, 2012, 08:00:21 PM
It is nice being able to post pics to the paug directly from my iPhone.
yeah, that's a seriously amazing feature in iOS 6 that we needed years ago... but better late than never!
So, can I do that from my ipad?
Quote from: natronzero on October 31, 2012, 12:49:58 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on October 31, 2012, 12:36:29 PM
Quote from: natronzero on October 31, 2012, 12:31:50 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on October 31, 2012, 12:22:52 PM
Quote from: natronzero on October 31, 2012, 10:30:43 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 30, 2012, 08:00:21 PM
It is nice being able to post pics to the paug directly from my iPhone.
Woah I had no idea we could do that now. Awesome!
FACK!! That's not in Austin, is it? That looks fucking delicious!!
Sadly no, it's from Sam's #3 in Denver. It was just the most appealing picture in my album to test it with. :lol:
I hear though that The Frisco Shop makes a mean CFS & Eggs. I haven't been there in too long, so you'd probably know better than me.
The real problem is that nobody in this town knows how to make proper hash browns. That's the element that stood out in your pic. Those look good.
Totally. Sam's hash browns are so simple, but so good.
yeah... it's not that hard. You buy Idaho potatoes. You boil, peel, and slice them. Then you fry them on the griddle with some oil. Around here they buy new potatoes, don't bother to boil or peel them. They just cut them into chunks and throw them on the griddle so they become chewy new potato chunks. It's either that or they use shredded potatoes like Waffle House which is better than the new potatoes, but still ain't right.
My kingdom for good hash browns, I say!!!
From the iPad.......
any thoughts from those more knowledgable about Apple?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/01/technology/apple-shake-up-could-mean-end-to-real-world-images-in-software.html?hpw&_r=0
QuoteApple Shake-Up Could Lead to Design Shift
By NICK WINGFIELD and NICK BILTON
Whether they realize it or not, all of those who swipe a finger down from the top of the iPhone's screen to check for notifications are bearing witness to a big sore point within Apple.
There, behind a list of text messages, missed phone calls and other updates, is a gray background with the unmistakable texture of fine linen.
Steven P. Jobs, the Apple chief executive who died a year ago, pushed the company's software designers to use the linen texture liberally in the software for the company's mobile devices. He did the same with many other virtual doodads that mimic the appearance and behavior of real-world things, like wooden shelves for organizing newspapers and the page-flipping motion of a book, according to people who worked with him but declined to be named to avoid Apple's ire.
The management shake-up that Apple announced on Monday is likely to mean that Apple will shift away from such visual tricks, which many people within the company look down upon. As part of the changes, the company fired Scott Forstall, the leader of Apple's mobile software development and a disciple of Mr. Jobs. While Mr. Forstall's abrasive style and resistance to collaboration with other parts of the company were the main factors in his undoing, the change also represents the departure of the most vocal and high-ranking proponent of the visual design style favored by Mr. Jobs.
The executive who will now set the direction for the look of Apple's software is Jonathan Ive, who has long been responsible for Apple's minimalist hardware designs. Mr. Ive, despite his close relationship with Mr. Jobs, has made his distaste for the visual ornamentation in Apple's mobile software known within the company, according to current and former Apple employees who asked not to be named discussing internal matters.
This may seem like little more than an internal disagreement over taste. But Apple venerates design like few other companies of its size, and its customers have rewarded it handsomely as a result. Apple's decisions can influence how millions of people use and think about digital devices — not only its own but those made by other companies that look to Apple as a standard-setter in design.
Axel Roesler, associate professor and chairman of the interaction design program at the University of Washington, says Apple's software designs had become larded with nostalgia, unnecessary visual references to the past that he compared to Greek columns in modern-day architecture. He said he would like to see Mr. Ive take a fresh approach.
"Apple, as a design leader, is not only capable of doing this, they have a responsibility for doing it," he said. "People expect great things from them."
Steve Dowling, an Apple spokesman, declined to comment.
Apple's customers do not seem to have serious qualms about the design choices the company has made as they continue to buy iPhones and iPads at a healthy clip. But within the circles of designers and technology executives outside Apple who obsess over the details of how products look and work, there has been a growing amount of grumbling in recent years that Apple's approach is starting to look dated.
The style favored by Mr. Forstall and Mr. Jobs is known in this crowd as skeuomorphism, in which certain images and metaphors, like a spiral-bound notebook or stitched leather, are used in software to give people a reassuring real-world reference.
In contrast, Microsoft, not known as a big risk-taker, has been praised recently for taking greater creative risks in the design of its software than Apple has. It has come up with a visual style that is now used throughout its computer, mobile and game products. It relies heavily on typography and sheets of tiles that provide access to programs and are updated with photos and other online information. It is not yet clear whether this approach will be a hit with people who do not spend time thinking about design.
Bill Flora, a former Microsoft designer who created the earliest prototypes of its new visual style, said Apple had not been innovative enough in the design of its software. "I have found their hardware to be amazing and sophisticated, and I have found their software to be kind of old school," said Mr. Flora, who now has his own design firm, Tectonic, in Seattle. "Their approach really wasn't what I was taught as a designer in design school."
Even internal critics of Apple's software designs say that some references to physical things are still useful. The trash bin on the Mac, for example, is a much-used metaphor for deleting files, one that is unlikely to go away soon. There is also a function in the new Passbook app that runs deleted loyalty and payment cards through something resembling a paper shredder. Some Apple designers see that as a good way of reinforcing the idea that potentially sensitive information has been wiped from the device.
But Apple causes conniptions among designers when its visual metaphors seem outdated or downright archaic. Apple's Podcasts app for its mobile products displays a reel-to-reel tape machine, a product probably few people under 40 have ever seen.
Apple's use of textures representing physical materials is also often ridiculed. In addition to linen, Apple has found opportunities to decorate the borders of its software, including the Calendar app on the iPad and the Find My Friends app on the iPhone, with a tan faux-animal skin that some critics have sarcastically called Corinthian leather, after the upholstery used in Chrysler cars in the 1970s.
The allusions to the past also affect how certain parts of its software function. Its iBooks application organizes electronic books on a set of wood-grained shelves, and the books are thumbed through with a page-turning animation. Some designers see that and similar functions in Apple's software as silly throwbacks to the past, plopped into advanced devices.
"It's like putting horses in front of a car, basically," said Dr. Roesler of the University of Washington.
Handing decisions about software design over to Mr. Ive, who is known almost entirely for his work in hardware, could be risky. One former Apple employee who worked in software for several years said he had never seen Mr. Ive in a meeting and suggested that Mr. Ive would have to work to win credibility among Mr. Forstall's loyalists. This person declined to be named discussing internal matters because he did not want to antagonize Apple.
But those who know him expect Mr. Ive — known to friends and colleagues as Jony — to waste little time in putting his own stamp on the look of the company's software, including iOS for mobile devices and OS X for Macs.
"You can be sure that the next generation of iOS and OS X will have Jony's industrial design aesthetic all over them," said a designer who works at Apple but declined to be named as he is not allowed to speak publicly. "Clean edges, flat surfaces will likely replace the textures that are all over the place right now."
Apple Maps got me lost going to a friend's house today. I tried to get it to re-direct me from "current location" along the way and kept saying "I don't know where 75 Main Street (or wherever I was ) is".
Finally, my wife grabbed the phone and said "Siri - fuck off"
Siri's reply - "Good bye would have been more polite."
Quote from: slslbs on November 03, 2012, 11:09:21 PM
Apple Maps got me lost going to a friend's house today. I tried to get it to re-direct me from "current location" along the way and kept saying "I don't know where 75 Main Street (or wherever I was ) is".
Finally, my wife grabbed the phone and said "Siri - fuck off"
Siri's reply - "Good bye would have been more polite."
Siri's a dumb bitch.
Quote from: slslbs on November 01, 2012, 04:51:27 PM
any thoughts from those more knowledgable about Apple?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/01/technology/apple-shake-up-could-mean-end-to-real-world-images-in-software.html?hpw&_r=0
Interesting. I find myself leaning to the side of those who find Apple's skeuomorphic touches to be a bit overdone and unnecessary.
Many of the design complaints in that article are things I like... the book pages turning in iBooks, the reel-to-reels in Podcasts, etc.
There is a lot of room for OSX and iOS to grow and both could stand to be stripped of some unnecessary design elements, but I've always felt that the best applications have a little bit of "real life" (or analog) replication in them.
I agree matt
I don't think Apple is looking at me for the prime demographic they're chasing, though
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Quote from: rowjimmy on October 30, 2012, 08:00:21 PM
It is nice being able to post pics to the paug directly from my iPhone.
yeah, that's a seriously amazing feature in iOS 6 that we needed years ago... but better late than never!
So, can I do that from my ipad?
i don't normally feel like a moron but what am i missing here to do this feature?
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Oh I see. Thanks. Well I guess I can delete photobucket app.
A lot of my apps have been going down lately. Since im not on the i5 I was waiting to update my phone but looks like I am being forced to now.
Quote from: zimbra on November 05, 2012, 11:57:28 PM
A lot of my apps have been going down lately. Since im not on the i5 I was waiting to update my phone but looks like I am being forced to now.
I had the same issue and upgraded a few weeks back, no problems now on my end.
iOS 6.0.1 is ready for download! No mention of maps though.
Quote from: antelope19 on November 06, 2012, 08:40:18 AM
iOS 6.0.1 is ready for download! No mention of maps though.
Maps fixes will happen in the cloud. It's the data that's broken more than the interface.
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 06, 2012, 09:10:49 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on November 06, 2012, 08:40:18 AM
iOS 6.0.1 is ready for download! No mention of maps though.
Maps fixes will happen in the cloud. It's the data that's broken more than the interface.
Interesting. I read that it wasn't the data that was the problem, but how the software/interface reads and relays the data to the user.
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Quote from: rowjimmy on November 06, 2012, 09:10:49 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on November 06, 2012, 08:40:18 AM
iOS 6.0.1 is ready for download! No mention of maps though.
Maps fixes will happen in the cloud. It's the data that's broken more than the interface.
Interesting. I read that it wasn't the data that was the problem, but how the software/interface reads and relays the data to the user.
Could be both?
I guess. I have a hard time believing the issues lie with Tom Tom and Yelp. But it is probably a combination as you said.
I upgraded.
Just for kicks, I put in some of the directions it screwed up for me when I was in Cali.
They are still screwed up.
Google maps still gets it right.
I've trusted my Garmin for years and years. In fact, I'm on my second Garmin. I love that thing. Who cares that I have to bring a separate device on trips. I also like mounting it to the windshield of the rental car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkDz4wMI9J8
Maps is gonna suck for a while.
Good thing everyone owns a GPS already.
Quote from: mattstick on November 06, 2012, 03:15:31 PM
Maps is gonna suck for a while.
Good thing everyone owns a GPS already.
I had no issues with maps for quite some time until recently. Now I feel like I can barely count on it for the correct directions.
For the record, I've not had any problem with Maps.
Possibly because I usually figure out where I'm going before I go...
^^
then, you don't need it.
remember, it's a standard male trait to get lost, not ask for directions and keep driving round and round (so I'm told - I would never dop such a thing).
the beauty of Maps, if it works, is you should be able to say " directions from current location to my destination", and no one will ever know.
I just d/l mapquest which supposedly also gives turn by turn directions. I'll have to play with it.
I also haven't had any problems with Maps, but use Waze mainly for navigation due to its traffic integration.
Quote from: slslbs on November 07, 2012, 03:16:13 PM
I just d/l mapquest which supposedly also gives turn by turn directions. I'll have to play with it.
ive used it, i like it. just not the best looking map but hey neither is that tom tom shit and at least it works.
I've done some searching on this and haven't found a great answer so I thought I'd try here.
is there an accessory as a dock adapter that splits into 2 dock connections?
what I'm trying to accomplish is concert streaming from my iphone. using ustream, my battery is basically dead after an hour and a half. to stream, I need to plug an adapter into the bottom of the phone so I can't charge while streaming. I'd like to simultaneously charge wile having the phone connected to my recorder.
I know all my non-technical lingo is probably confusing.
one of my main reasons to get an iphone was for streaming and because it is a good phone.
There are battery packs that double as cases and allow pass through docking.
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 03, 2012, 08:41:30 PM
There are battery packs that double as cases and allow pass through docking.
thanks. I'll look into that. appreciate it.
google maps released today.
what do we have to complain about now?
Quote from: DoW on December 13, 2012, 07:41:40 AM
google maps released today.
what do we have to complain about now?
My iPhone5 has yet to score me a blowjob.
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 13, 2012, 08:13:24 AM
Quote from: DoW on December 13, 2012, 07:41:40 AM
google maps released today.
what do we have to complain about now?
My iPhone5 has yet to score me a blowjob.
Yeah, Siri is still basically worthless.
you haven't asked her properly
I have turn by turn directions on my iPhone 4! Apple, lol
Quote
Talk about some pent-up demand: the refreshed and resurrected Google Maps app had more than 10 million downloads in less than 48 hours. That's the word from Jeff Huber at Google, who put out the numbers via Google+.
my phone took a 6 foot drop to the concrete and the screen is fuuucked. fortunately it still works but to the Apple store I go
Quote from: blatboom on December 22, 2012, 09:30:06 PM
my phone took a 6 foot drop to the concrete and the screen is fuuucked. fortunately it still works but to the Apple store I go
That blows.
There is probably a cheaper independent place that would replace the screen for less cash...
My local Radio Shack does it...
I've had three friends go to the apple store to have screens repaired and all ended up paying nothing. Walled away with new phones.
Also I heard some of the aftermarket glass available are not quality products.
^
yep
a friend of mine broke a screen of a macbook at an airport. they replaced it, even though the warranty ran out.
from what I hear, you can get away with 1 free screen
they only gave me the option of replacing the phone for $199 under AppleCare -or- replacing it and adding a year of AppleCare for $249 ??? :|
I asked about just replacing the screen and she said they don't do that there. I guess she meant that location? Unfortunately it's the only one in town
Search on Craigslist for iPhone screen repair in your area. $50 will get the job done.
That's right pals...I got an IPhone 5. This guy who only started texting a year ago has stepped into the smart phone world. I was looking at replacing my ipod, and for the same price, I could get the phone. Still haven't played with it enough to know what I am doing, but it is pretty cool. So suggestions are welcome here.
Quote from: Bobafett on January 19, 2013, 01:14:57 PM
That's right pals...I got an IPhone 5. This guy who only started texting a year ago has stepped into the smart phone world. I was looking at replacing my ipod, and for the same price, I could get the phone. Still haven't played with it enough to know what I am doing, but it is pretty cool. So suggestions are welcome here.
best music apps I use are:
archivist. this lets you stream anything that is streamable on the LMA. you need to pay but for me, it works better than any of the free ones.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/archivist-free-live-music/id432850880?mt=8
google music app is a must if you have a google music account.
use the googfle maps app instead of the other maps app.
talk to siri and get to know her.
I took this pic at work the other day...
Apple shares down 11% today! Invest now! :)
Im going to get a new phone, im due for a upgrade so I was going to get the iphone 5 but the dude at verizon said I should get some other phone instead, should i just get the 5 anyways?
He showed me this one Samsung phone but the thing was fucking huge I dont even thing it would fit in my pocket. thanks!
Quote from: tehdead on January 24, 2013, 04:44:34 PM
Im going to get a new phone, im due for a upgrade so I was going to get the iphone 5 but the dude at verizon said I should get some other phone instead, should i just get the 5 anyways?
He showed me this one Samsung phone but the thing was fucking huge I dont even thing it would fit in my pocket. thanks!
My buddy ted just got one of those new Samsung phones and loves it, but I'm with you. That thing is massive.
one of the drawbacks to the iphone 5 is that it has a 5 pin adapter instead of a 30 pin adapter (or maybe I mixed those up). so if you already have an iphone or ipod adapters (like car lighter chargers), you will need to buy new ones or an adapter cable, which is like $40 at the apple store.
other drawback is the price of an iphone 5 as compared to upgrading to an iphone 4.
but it is a great device and I recommend it.
Getting my iphone5 either tomorrow or Monday at work. Pretty pumped as I've been a Blackberry only smartphone user to date.
iOS 6.1 available for download
Untethered jailbreak for iOS 6.x is out now. Looks like I'll be upgrading finally. Apple Maps here I come!
http://evasi0n.com/
what are some good apps out there?
Quote from: tehdead on February 11, 2013, 06:01:47 PM
what are some good apps out there?
I think you would enjoy freshjam radio. It costs $2.99 I believe.
There are a ton of wonderful free apps too
I bought Garage Band this afternoon and been fucking around with it. Here's a little test run....guess what I've been listening to a little too much lately?
http://soundcloud.com/andrewbarnes-1/first-try
how the hell do you share a video from your phone without having to up to youtube? I know there's a way even on the old iOS which I'm still on
Quote from: blatboom on March 02, 2013, 09:40:17 PM
how the hell do you share a video from your phone without having to up to youtube? I know there's a way even on the old iOS which I'm still on
I have no clue, but your avatar is awesome.
fuckin goats man
Quote from: blatboom on March 02, 2013, 09:49:42 PM
fuckin goats man
another post that needs to be read in the correct context
(http://personalattackzone.com/phpBB3/images/smilies/armscrossed.gif)
Quote from: blatboom on March 03, 2013, 01:35:43 AM
(http://personalattackzone.com/phpBB3/images/smilies/armscrossed.gif)
it is a kiss ass avatar though.
probably old news to most of you, but new to me.
there is a afree etree archive app
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id584868442?mt=8
I had been using the paid version of the archivist for streaming, but this one is free and works great.
Quote from: DoW on March 12, 2013, 08:54:21 AM
probably old news to most of you, but new to me.
there is a afree etree archive app
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id584868442?mt=8
I had been using the paid version of the archivist for streaming, but this one is free and works great.
Downloading now.
Quote from: DoW on March 12, 2013, 08:54:21 AM
probably old news to most of you, but new to me.
there is a afree etree archive app
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id584868442?mt=8
I had been using the paid version of the archivist for streaming, but this one is free and works great.
Thanks for the heads up. Dl'ed and have selected a few favorites. Much better than trying to navigate the site...
cool, thanks
you only like this app because of the way they display the bands
(http://a1808.phobos.apple.com/us/r1000/070/Purple/v4/d3/0c/8a/d30c8ab3-d985-1b22-520b-1378208bbc5f/mzl.qiltnlzv.320x480-75.jpg)
Quote from: slslbs on March 12, 2013, 08:40:23 PM
you only like this app because of the way they display the bands
(http://a1808.phobos.apple.com/us/r1000/070/Purple/v4/d3/0c/8a/d30c8ab3-d985-1b22-520b-1378208bbc5f/mzl.qiltnlzv.320x480-75.jpg)
ha. you caught me.
bands are displayed by number of shows on the LMA. didn't realize until just now moe. is about to go past 2000 entries. I did know they were the 2nd highest though.
Latest update to the YouTube app is pretty sweet. Allows me to search on my iPad, through my Ps3, and play on my HD TV on my surround sound. Loving it!
Quote from: DoW on March 12, 2013, 08:54:21 AM
probably old news to most of you, but new to me.
there is a afree etree archive app
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id584868442?mt=8
I had been using the paid version of the archivist for streaming, but this one is free and works great.
Very cool, thank you.
Does anyone know if google has an iOS app similar to apple remote that can control your google music library? Yes, I'm being fat and lazy.....
Upgraded to iPhone 5 yesterday. God damn that extra row is shaweet.
Anyone else pumped for the upcoming WWDC?
iOS overhaul, new iPhone, new iPad and new macs all rumored.
I'll be upgrading my phone from the 4 this fall. I hope the new one makes me want to spend the extra money. Otherwise, I'll just get the 5 for next to nothing.
My contract is up at the end of Sept so I will be looking at a new phone.
My new plan is to buy unlocked and off-contract, then just shop for the cheapest provider every few months. I figure I can make up the cost of the phone easily over 2 years by not being locked into a plan/provider.
Could be hearing about iRadio at WWDC also.
Speaking of all this WWDC talk. (http://www.theonion.com/articles/dollar-tree-ceo-officially-unveils-longrumored-foi,32684/)
Ready, so ready, to move to the next iPhone from my four in the fall.
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 05, 2013, 09:48:09 PM
Ready, so ready, to move to the next iPhone from my four in the fall.
My iPhone 4 has held up quite well, but I'd have to agree: Definitely ready for a change.
curious about the changes - rumor has it the entire look will change
New iPhone announcement Sept 10.
So glad.
My 4 has served me well.
I've a 5 from work (no complaints) and I'm ready to get the latest and greatest for my personal phone to run the new iOS.
I'm looking forward to iOS7, but a biometric home button is pretty goddamned slick too.
Psyched
thought this was interesting but I personally don't buy it
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-57599084-233/the-one-thing-apple-must-do-to-keep-me-as-an-iphone-customer/?hubRefSrc=permalink#lf_comment=94008029
QuoteOK, Apple, cards on the table.
I've been an iPhone user since the beginning. I've owned every model through the 4S, upgrading on an almost annual basis even though it meant paying extra. (Ah, the joys of the AT&T contract and its early-upgrade penalties.)
Why no iPhone 5? That little bit of extra screen-estate and slightly improved camera weren't enough to loosen my wallet, and so for the first time I held tight to last year's model. My 4S is soon to celebrate its second birthday, at which time I'll be out of my contract and free to make a move.
On September 10, you're probably announcing something new. Most signs point to an iPhone 5S, which, if the 4S is any indication, will be an iPhone 5 with a few extra gewgaws -- a fingerprint scanner, perhaps, and maybe a gold finish and 128GB storage option.
To my thinking, those would be some pretty underwhelming improvements. In fact, if that's it, then that's it: once again I will not be upgrading. Rather, I will probably do something I once considered unthinkable: switch to Android.
Screen envy: You can't use something like the Galaxy S4 without coming away disappointed with your iPhone 4S.
(Credit: PhoneArena.com)
Why unthinkable? Because I love my iPhone. For all its shortcomings, I love iOS. And all my media is woven into iTunes. Sure, I can move nearly everything over to Google, but that's a hassle I'd rather avoid.
However, unless the iPhone 5S (or some supersecret other model waiting in the wings) offers one key feature, I feel almost forced into making the switch.
Bottom line: If Apple wants to keep me as an iPhone customer, it must release a model with a bigger screen. I don't mean a hair longer; I mean bigger.
See, right around the time my 4S turns 2, I'll turn 45. My eyesight ain't what it used to be, and a 3.5-inch screen just doesn't cut it anymore. (Nor would an iPhone 5's 4-inch screen, which is merely longer.) This is a problem because I spend a lot of time looking at that screen: reading e-mail and e-books, checking the news, reviewing apps, and so on. It's to the point where I have to hold the phone at arm's length just to be able to focus on text. (Yeah, I'm overdue for new glasses. But anyone in my age bracket or above understands what I'm talking about.) Increasing the font size gets you only so far.
This point was driven home recently when I spent some time with a Samsung Galaxy S4 (on loan from Verizon), which has a breathtaking 5-inch screen. The jump to there from 3.5 inches may not seem like much, but it's actually an increase of nearly 43 percent. Side by side with the 4S, the S4 dwarfs it. More importantly, it's just so much easier on the eyes.
Of course there are countless other Android-powered models with displays that are nearly as large, just as large, or even larger. But although rumor has it that Apple is tinkering with larger iPhone screens, I suspect the product we'll meet next month will have the same 4-inch Retina Display. Lovely, yes, but still not enough for me.
I'm sure Apple will catch up with the competition eventually, sizewise, but I'm tired of waiting. This customer wants the option of a much larger screen, and unless I get it next month, I'm going to see what the Android life is like.
Anybody else feeling the same impatience for a bigger iPhone? Was the iPhone 5 enough to satisfy your size demands? Or perhaps you feel that OS trumps hardware, and the iPhone still rules? Whatever your thoughts, share them in the comments!
More dancin' room for me.
I'm getting the 5S.
Stupid comment is stupid.
I've used the Galaxy S3. It's crap. Also, I would have shattered a few dozen of them in the time that I've owned my completely unshattered iPhone 4.
Plus, when you consider the fractured development platform for Android, (There are dozens of different hardware platforms for a bunch of different OS versions and many users are unable to upgrade their OS until their wireless provider sets them free) the fact is that the iOS platform continues to destroy Android on app availability and performance.
I won't say 'never' but as of today, I cannot see any time in the future that I would leave iOS for Android.
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/08/more-americans-unsurprisingly-switch-to-the-iphone-than-switch-to-samsungs-galaxys.html?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=bufferb7756&utm_medium=twitter#.UhQWYmS9Kc0
More Americans (unsurprisingly) switch to the iPhone than switch to Samsung's Galaxys
By Stefan Constantinescu on 12 hours ago.
New data gathered for Fortune by Consumer Intelligence Research Partners shows that 20% of iPhone buyers switched from an Android phone, versus 7% of previous iPhone owners switching to a Samsung phone. First question: What's the sample size? 500 people. Second, which geographic territory does this cover? The USA. Third, when was the data gathered? Every 90 days between July 2012 and June 2013.
With all that information above, should the findings come as a surprise? They really shouldn't. Nearly every smartphone sold in America is subsidized, so while those in the know understand that the latest and greatest iPhone 5 costs upwards of $750 after taxes, most folks in the States think it's just $199. Given the choice between a $199 iPhone 5 or a $199 Galaxy S4, of course you're going to go with the iPhone because it's the safe choice.
The guys from MacRumors have also noticed these important data points:
Customers who purchased iPhones tended to be younger than those who purchased Samsung phones. 69% of those that bought an iPhone were between the ages of 18 and 34 compared to only 64% of Samsung buyers. Apple buyers had a slightly higher income, with 38% reporting an income over $75,000 compared to 29% of Samsung buyers. 48% of Apple buyers also had a college degree, compared to 32% of Samsung buyers.
Shifting our attention to Europe and Asia, Android is "winning" there because those are the parts of the world where phones are bough separately from the SIM card. Plenty of decent Android phones exist in the 300 Euro price bracket. Zero iPhones exist in the 300 Euro price bracket. This might change later this year with the introduction of the iPhone 5C, and that's what Samsung should really be scared about.
What is "winning" anyway? Is it shipping more boxes or is it making more money? If you care about volume, Samsung is the best. If you care about money, Apple is the best. At the end of the day, you can pick just about any data point to show that your favorite company is crushing their competitors, but please don't do that.
9/10 event is official.
(http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/adam/4c6196fe7f6bf36d379284a5d3ccd079/ainvite.jpg)
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 03, 2013, 12:31:52 PM
9/10 event is official.
(http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/adam/4c6196fe7f6bf36d379284a5d3ccd079/ainvite.jpg)
Please don't make the new "feature" a bunch of colorful shell options a la the early iMacs...
Definitely getting the new one.
Pumped.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on September 03, 2013, 03:37:22 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 03, 2013, 12:31:52 PM
9/10 event is official.
(http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/adam/4c6196fe7f6bf36d379284a5d3ccd079/ainvite.jpg)
Please don't make the new "feature" a bunch of colorful shell options a la the early iMacs...
http://youtu.be/lcBpXYI1r3Q (http://youtu.be/lcBpXYI1r3Q)
The iPhone 4 has similar specs to those colorful iMacs.
The rumor has the "cheap" iPhone 5C coming in many colors, and the new 5S coming in "champagne gold" in addition to black and white.
I'm hoping they ship right away and I can have one before the end of the month.
Quote from: mattstick on September 03, 2013, 10:09:06 PM
I'm hoping they ship right away and I can have one before the end of the month.
This.
My 4 is pretty much done.
My 4 has slowed a little, but that'll happen when you have a phone for 2.5 years. Honestly, if this update is as yawntastic as everyone is saying, I may just trade in my 4 get the 5 for super cheap. That alone will be a pretty big upgrade over my current model.
TBD
Quote from: antelope19 on September 04, 2013, 10:20:34 AM
My 4 has slowed a little, but that'll happen when you have a phone for 2.5 years. Honestly, if this update is as yawntastic as everyone is saying, I may just trade in my 4 get the 5 for super cheap. That alone will be a pretty big upgrade over my current model.
TBD
Time for an upgrade here too, waiting for this to go through so I can get the 5 on the cheap. I already have an iPod Classic and an iPad, why the fuck not an iPhone as well? Whether it is the newest model or not isn't really a concern, that I can drive everything for all devices out of iTunes is my major concern.
Apple is great, the fact that they haven't gone the route of removable storage for their phones is stupid, and their phone cameras could be better, but I really do like my Apple products.
don't feel the need for one, but got a good offer from gazelle for my 4S. It probably makes sense to just do it now.
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on September 04, 2013, 10:11:14 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 04, 2013, 10:20:34 AM
My 4 has slowed a little, but that'll happen when you have a phone for 2.5 years. Honestly, if this update is as yawntastic as everyone is saying, I may just trade in my 4 get the 5 for super cheap. That alone will be a pretty big upgrade over my current model.
TBD
Time for an upgrade here too, waiting for this to go through so I can get the 5 on the cheap. I already have an iPod Classic and an iPad, why the fuck not an iPhone as well? Whether it is the newest model or not isn't really a concern, that I can drive everything for all devices out of iTunes is my major concern.
Apple is great, the fact that they haven't gone the route of removable storage for their phones is stupid, and their phone cameras could be better, but I really do like my Apple products.
Why would I want removable storage? Memory cards just get lost. Besides, the cloud has all my stuff (except my music because I don't use iTunes Match.)
I can sync my iphone without plugging it in to my computer... hell from different parts of the house. and If I used iTunes Match, I could get all my songs anywhere without a wire.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 05, 2013, 07:29:54 AM
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on September 04, 2013, 10:11:14 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 04, 2013, 10:20:34 AM
My 4 has slowed a little, but that'll happen when you have a phone for 2.5 years. Honestly, if this update is as yawntastic as everyone is saying, I may just trade in my 4 get the 5 for super cheap. That alone will be a pretty big upgrade over my current model.
TBD
Time for an upgrade here too, waiting for this to go through so I can get the 5 on the cheap. I already have an iPod Classic and an iPad, why the fuck not an iPhone as well? Whether it is the newest model or not isn't really a concern, that I can drive everything for all devices out of iTunes is my major concern.
Apple is great, the fact that they haven't gone the route of removable storage for their phones is stupid, and their phone cameras could be better, but I really do like my Apple products.
Why would I want removable storage? Memory cards just get lost. Besides, the cloud has all my stuff (except my music because I don't use iTunes Match.)
I can sync my iphone without plugging it in to my computer... hell from different parts of the house. and If I used iTunes Match, I could get all my songs anywhere without a wire.
Wile I don't disagree with you from a functionality standpoint, it pisses me off how much Apple charges for internal flash memory in their devices.
External storage for iOS:
http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/portable-hard-drives/wireless/wireless-plus/
Quote from: mattstick on September 05, 2013, 09:59:32 AM
External storage for iOS:
http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/portable-hard-drives/wireless/wireless-plus/
I have one of these. It's awesome.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 05, 2013, 10:04:42 AM
Quote from: mattstick on September 05, 2013, 09:59:32 AM
External storage for iOS:
http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/portable-hard-drives/wireless/wireless-plus/
I have one of these. It's awesome.
wow! I didn't know that existed.
:starts christmas list:
Quote from: antelope19 on September 05, 2013, 11:17:37 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 05, 2013, 10:04:42 AM
Quote from: mattstick on September 05, 2013, 09:59:32 AM
External storage for iOS:
http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/portable-hard-drives/wireless/wireless-plus/
I have one of these. It's awesome.
wow! I didn't know that existed.
:starts christmas list:
Picture this:
Family in minivan, all looking at a portable device, either iphone or kindle fire. All watching a different video streaming wirelessly to their device from this hdd sitting beside me, in the driver's seat peacefully napping thanks to the quiet children.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 06, 2013, 07:55:10 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 05, 2013, 11:17:37 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 05, 2013, 10:04:42 AM
Quote from: mattstick on September 05, 2013, 09:59:32 AM
External storage for iOS:
http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/portable-hard-drives/wireless/wireless-plus/
I have one of these. It's awesome.
wow! I didn't know that existed.
:starts christmas list:
Picture this:
Family in minivan, all looking at a portable device, either iphone or kindle fire. All watching a different video streaming wirelessly to their device from this hdd sitting beside me, in the driver's seat peacefully napping thanks to the quiet children.
That sounds like bliss. Added to xmaslist.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 06, 2013, 07:55:10 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 05, 2013, 11:17:37 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 05, 2013, 10:04:42 AM
Quote from: mattstick on September 05, 2013, 09:59:32 AM
External storage for iOS:
http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/portable-hard-drives/wireless/wireless-plus/
I have one of these. It's awesome.
wow! I didn't know that existed.
:starts christmas list:
Picture this:
Family in minivan, all looking at a portable device, either iphone or kindle fire. All watching a different video streaming wirelessly to their device from this hdd sitting beside me, in the driver's seat peacefully napping thanks to the quiet children.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2013/01/clark-griswold-asleep-at-wheel-1357750965.jpg)
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 06, 2013, 07:55:10 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 05, 2013, 11:17:37 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 05, 2013, 10:04:42 AM
Quote from: mattstick on September 05, 2013, 09:59:32 AM
External storage for iOS:
http://www.seagate.com/external-hard-drives/portable-hard-drives/wireless/wireless-plus/
I have one of these. It's awesome.
wow! I didn't know that existed.
:starts christmas list:
Picture this:
Family in minivan, all looking at a portable device, either iphone or kindle fire. All watching a different video streaming wirelessly to their device from this hdd sitting beside me, in the driver's seat peacefully napping thanks to the quiet children.
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
that's an awesome device. thanks for sharing.
I like the iphone 5 but a major fault is the battery life.
tomorrow!!!!! :crazy:
Does anyone think Ios 7 will help the battery life issue with the 5? I guess only time will tell.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 09, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
tomorrow!!!!! :crazy:
Does anyone think Ios 7 will help the battery life issue with the 5? I guess only time will tell.
my buddy has been using the beta that has been floating around the web on his 5 for the past week. From the way it seems to work I personally don't see this happening, but I could also be wrong.
regardless i was messing around with it and man is it cool.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 09, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
tomorrow!!!!! :crazy:
Does anyone think Ios 7 will help the battery life issue with the 5? I guess only time will tell.
I've never had battery issues with my 5.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 09, 2013, 11:53:34 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 09, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
tomorrow!!!!! :crazy:
Does anyone think Ios 7 will help the battery life issue with the 5? I guess only time will tell.
I've never had battery issues with my 5.
I wonder what I'm doing wrong?
It's draining my battery all the time.
Quote from: aphineday on September 09, 2013, 03:26:48 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 09, 2013, 11:53:34 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 09, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
tomorrow!!!!! :crazy:
Does anyone think Ios 7 will help the battery life issue with the 5? I guess only time will tell.
I've never had battery issues with my 5.
I wonder what I'm doing wrong?
It's draining my battery all the time.
my experience with various devices is that turning off bluetooth when not in use will save a ton of battery life.
Quote from: PG on September 09, 2013, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: aphineday on September 09, 2013, 03:26:48 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 09, 2013, 11:53:34 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 09, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
tomorrow!!!!! :crazy:
Does anyone think Ios 7 will help the battery life issue with the 5? I guess only time will tell.
I've never had battery issues with my 5.
I wonder what I'm doing wrong?
It's draining my battery all the time.
my experience with various devices is that turning off bluetooth when not in use will save a ton of battery life.
This.
I also turn off wifi if I know I'm not going to be within range for a while(road trips or a day of sales appointments, etc). And even though they say that "killing" apps in the background doesn't help, I have a hard time believing that map apps using location tracking don't put a drain on the battery.
I try to turn off location services and push notifications wherever possible too.
I don't have any need for bluetooth, so I don't have any first hand experience, although my wife often complains........
Wait, what? I mean my wife often complains about the battery on her 4S running out too often and she leaves her bluetooth on all the time. Her 4S is about a year and a half newer than my 4.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 09, 2013, 03:34:09 PM
Quote from: PG on September 09, 2013, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: aphineday on September 09, 2013, 03:26:48 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 09, 2013, 11:53:34 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 09, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
tomorrow!!!!! :crazy:
Does anyone think Ios 7 will help the battery life issue with the 5? I guess only time will tell.
I've never had battery issues with my 5.
I wonder what I'm doing wrong?
It's draining my battery all the time.
my experience with various devices is that turning off bluetooth when not in use will save a ton of battery life.
This.
I also turn off wifi if I know I'm not going to be within range for a while(road trips or a day of sales appointments, etc). And even though they say that "killing" apps in the background doesn't help, I have a hard time believing that map apps using location tracking don't put a drain on the battery.
I try to turn off location services and push notifications wherever possible too.
I don't have any need for bluetooth, so I don't have any first hand experience, although my wife often complains........
Wait, what? I mean my wife often complains about the battery on her 4S running out too often and she leaves her bluetooth on all the time. Her 4S is about a year and a half newer than my 4.
Thanks guys.
This seems simple, but I hadn't even really thought of it. The only time I really use my Bluetooth is when I'm in my car.
I'll try this out!
echoing what others have said:
don't allow push notifications. I don't even have it push emails automatically, only when I click on mail.
turn screen brightness down to what is comfortable, not the default.
turn off all the location services that you don't need. I mean, does the ESPN app really need to know where I am?
What time does this party start?
1pm... no mention of an official stream, right?
you can follow along here: http://www.tuaw.com/2013/09/10/september-2013-apple-event-liveblog-the-new-iphone-party/
Very similar but slightly better coverage is here: http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/10/apple-iphone-liveblog-2013/
No iOS 7 until next week? Fuck, I was hoping to download that shit when I got home like previous years.
Apple 3.0
iWork to be free on all new iOS devices!
confirmed: two new iphones!
Quote from: antelope19 on September 10, 2013, 01:21:59 PM
iWork to be free on all new iOS devices!
Interesting. A ploy to get people familiar with (and dependent upon) iWork so they plop down the dough for the desktop version instead of MS Office.
a7 = 64 bit
Holy crap! :-o
Is that a new home button in that pic too?
New camera and features look really nice. I look forward to utilizing that in the future.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 10, 2013, 01:54:34 PM
New camera and features look really nice. I look forward to utilizing that in the future.
the filters are pretty cool.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 10, 2013, 01:41:49 PM
Is that a new home button in that pic too?
Boom!
ETA: whoa.......finger print scanner is sick
Is there a no-contract price for the 5C or 5S yet?
Stupid conference keeping me away from iPhone announcements.
Quote from: mattstick on September 10, 2013, 02:00:12 PM
Is there a no-contract price for the 5C or 5S yet?
Stupid conference keeping me away from iPhone announcements.
No mention of price yet
The iPhone 5S starts at 16GB for $199. 32GB is $299, 64GB is $399 with 2 year contract.
4S free with new contract
No mention of the 5. Interesting
I read yesterday the 5C would be 400-500 US dollars for NC, however, that was for overseas market I believe. Whether that will be North American prices I don't know.
So summarize for me, cause the Engadget Blog is a lot to scoll through. Should I ball hard for the 5S or just get a cheaper 5C?
Elvis Costello on stage! :roll:
Quote from: mattstick on September 10, 2013, 02:11:43 PM
So summarize for me, cause the Engadget Blog is a lot to scoll through. Should I ball hard for the 5S or just get a cheaper 5C?
5s is a zillion times faster.
I'm getting one.
The Store (US) is up with contract free pricing.
5C is not so cheap, 5S is looking like my next phone.
Any tips for being one of the first pre-orders? Does it start at 12:00am on the release date?
Quote from: mattstick on September 10, 2013, 02:17:07 PM
5C is not so cheap, 5S is looking like my next phone.
Any tips for being one of the first pre-orders? Does it start at 12:00am on the release date?
No idea but I'm watching for an e-mail from my provider and planning on staying up late.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 10, 2013, 02:25:01 PM
Quote from: mattstick on September 10, 2013, 02:17:07 PM
5C is not so cheap, 5S is looking like my next phone.
Any tips for being one of the first pre-orders? Does it start at 12:00am on the release date?
No idea but I'm watching for an e-mail from my provider and planning on staying up late.
This.
I'm excited.
correct me if I'm wrong but 5C doesn't sound like a significant upgrade from 4S - the major change would be to 5S
Quote from: slslbs on September 10, 2013, 05:18:22 PM
correct me if I'm wrong but 5C doesn't sound like a significant upgrade from 4S - the major change would be to 5S
Agree.
Quote from: slslbs on September 10, 2013, 05:18:22 PM
correct me if I'm wrong but 5C doesn't sound like a significant upgrade from 4S - the major change would be to 5S
The 5C is the iphone 5 replacement. Slight upgrades to performance and camera, etc. over the 5 and a lower price point. But overall, basically the same(aside from the obvious difference in the way it looks)
Did y'all see this diagram of the new fingerprint scanner? pretty slick...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BT0gj13CIAAubwN.jpg)
^^^^ That's pretty sweet
We're off to the apple store today. The wife's 4S can't hold a charge for more thna an hour or 2 and it's only a little over a year old. It's over heating and seems to be using the location tracking constantly. :| She may be getting a new phone before me depending on how tonight goes.
Restored and like new! :beers:
Quote from: PG on September 16, 2013, 04:42:10 PM
Did y'all see this diagram of the new fingerprint scanner? pretty slick...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BT0gj13CIAAubwN.jpg)
'NSA backdoor.' sounds about right. good luck with that.
Quote from: mbw on September 16, 2013, 11:11:17 PM
Quote from: PG on September 16, 2013, 04:42:10 PM
Did y'all see this diagram of the new fingerprint scanner? pretty slick...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BT0gj13CIAAubwN.jpg)
'NSA backdoor.' sounds about right. good luck with that.
Didn't see this uproar when a whole generation of Windows-based laptops had fingerprint scanners for the past 5+ years.
Hi, my name is Proud New Owner of an iPhone 5.
Nice to meet you.
8-)
That takes me up to an iPhone, iPad, and iPod Classic 160 GB. I wonder what tier of fanboy that places me in?
You're getting close to this guy:
(http://vaporadio.com/wp-content/gallery/pod/apple%20fanboy.jpg)
Not that there's anything wrong with that.....
Quote from: antelope19 on September 17, 2013, 12:47:20 PM
You're getting close to this guy:
(http://vaporadio.com/wp-content/gallery/pod/apple%20fanboy.jpg)
Not that there's anything wrong with that.....
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Yeah, I think I am done.
Anyone know time the release is slated for? Should I stay up late to kick off my download or is this a Cupertino time thing (i.e., tomorrow afternoon for people who live in a normal timezone)?
ETA:
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 17, 2013, 07:35:10 AM
Didn't see this uproar when a whole generation of Windows-based laptops had fingerprint scanners for the past 5+ years.
I think the recent NSA revelations probably have something to do with that.
3:01am EST Fridat morning. I will be up late.
STILL WAITING........
Given the fiasco I had with iOS 5(bricked my phone), I'll probably grab iOS 7 sometime next week. There's nothing on there that I can't wait a few extra days for.....
I did that with iOS 6 and it worked like a charm.
First to post from iOS 7 wins the internet for the day.
Hospital internet connection is brutal, or it could be the servers are swamped. Started with 1 hour to download, down to 41 minutes, now upto 3 hours.
Quote from: mattstick on September 18, 2013, 01:16:44 PM
First to post from iOS 7 wins the internet for the day.
Hospital internet connection is brutal, or it could be the servers are swamped. Started with 1 hour to download, down to 41 minutes, now upto 3 hours.
I concur.
I'm at 39 minutes
Still no update in my itunes. Did I miss something? Is this not coming for the 4? I could have swore I heard it was. Google says so too, but yeah still nothing.
edit: nevermind i forgot it's in my phone settings. :roll:
My work phone is in the logo startup screen.. About 33% on the progress bar...
Make that 50%.
I figured a wired connection would be faster but updating through iTunes isn't available yet...
Boom!
Figures the IT guy would win.
mie is finally done too.
We have an iPad setup as a Kiosk, and I have it installed there. Looks nice.
UGH!!! download finally done but now it keeps going to verifying update and than just telling me to fuck off.
Mine has been Preparing Update for quite a while. I switched to my work BlackBerry's hotspot for internet so I can put both in my bag while I bike home, hopefully it will be done when I get home. ?
My ipad just gives me an error message when I try to DL. Hmmmmmmm......
8 hours left......ugh.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 18, 2013, 03:58:23 PM
8 hours left......ugh.
the next update may be out before you're done
:-D
Quote from: DoW on September 18, 2013, 04:10:35 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 18, 2013, 03:58:23 PM
8 hours left......ugh.
the next update may be out before you're done
:-D
13 16 hours! Woohoo!
What a fucking joke......
Liking it.
Looks smooth.
Quote from: JustJezmund on September 18, 2013, 03:15:42 PM
UGH!!! download finally done but now it keeps going to verifying update and than just telling me to fuck off.
This seems to be the exact cycle I'm stuck in. :frustrated:
Took a few tries at the verification stage, but it's been loading for a while now... patience is a virtue today.
I got stuck in an icloud setup loop briefly. but that was after the install completed.
It's quite nice.
When are they gonna figure this out?
I miss the days when I got my software in the mail. "500 free minutes of AOL Internet". :laugh:
Wife's phone doesn't have enough free space to download the update untethered.
iTunes needs to be updated to 11.0.5 to do it while tethered.
iPhone update wants the newest version of iTunes, while iTunes is already up to date.
Endless loop of clicks ensues.
I didn't have the issues you guys seem to be having. Downloaded and installed right away in less than 45 mins. I really dig the sleek design and some of the new features (e.g., multitasking view), but Command Center for quick toggling of wi-fi and Bluetooth wins. Love it.
Now when is the Mavericks release?
Itching to place this on the new iPhone since I have nothing saved on it yet only having had it for 48 hours, but think I will wait since there is (apparently?) no going back to iOS6 on an A6 chip?
In the meantime, let me throw this Dear Abbey out to the crowd. Now that I have three Apple devices, I would like to create ONE iTunes library between 500GB-1TB large and be able to connect and manage all three devices within that ONE library. Am I looking at making playlists for the iPad and iPhone since their memory capacity is much smaller than the Classic, or is there another way without creating three separate libraries?
The WiFi Seagate drive that Matt posted and RJ also has is definitely in the future, but given current circumstances with my marital status, isn't feasible at this time although Santa may be able to bring me something. Until then, playlists are the way to go? It seems burdensome to manage a 28 GB playlist, is that so? The separate libraries was a pain in the ass on the last Windows OS, but if it has to be done.....
soooooo
I clicked on Settings > software updated on my iphone 4S and it checks for updates for several minutes and then says there is a problem
I do the same thing on my 3rd gen ipad ( with Siri) and it says iOS 6.1.3 : your software is up to date.
both are on wifi
What gives?
Quote from: slslbs on September 18, 2013, 10:18:55 PM
soooooo
I clicked on Settings > software updated on my iphone 4S and it checks for updates for several minutes and then says there is a problem
I do the same thing on my 3rd gen ipad ( with Siri) and it says iOS 6.1.3 : your software is up to date.
both are on wifi
What gives?
I am finding it on my iPhone 5 and iPad 3 Retina (on wifi). :|
iPad is updated. Sure is pretty.
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on September 18, 2013, 09:23:22 PM
Itching to place this on the new iPhone since I have nothing saved on it yet only having had it for 48 hours, but think I will wait since there is (apparently?) no going back to iOS6 on an A6 chip?
In the meantime, let me throw this Dear Abbey out to the crowd. Now that I have three Apple devices, I would like to create ONE iTunes library between 500GB-1TB large and be able to connect and manage all three devices within that ONE library. Am I looking at making playlists for the iPad and iPhone since their memory capacity is much smaller than the Classic, or is there another way without creating three separate libraries?
The WiFi Seagate drive that Matt posted and RJ also has is definitely in the future, but given current circumstances with my marital status, isn't feasible at this time although Santa may be able to bring me something. Until then, playlists are the way to go? It seems burdensome to manage a 28 GB playlist, is that so? The separate libraries was a pain in the ass on the last Windows OS, but if it has to be done.....
Definitely, 1 library with a playlist for each device. If I can manage my 160gb + iPhone + iPad + Nano + wife's iDevices, you can handle your 3. Just make playlists and sync, nothing to it.
Quote from: mattstick on September 18, 2013, 10:31:13 PM
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on September 18, 2013, 09:23:22 PM
Itching to place this on the new iPhone since I have nothing saved on it yet only having had it for 48 hours, but think I will wait since there is (apparently?) no going back to iOS6 on an A6 chip?
In the meantime, let me throw this Dear Abbey out to the crowd. Now that I have three Apple devices, I would like to create ONE iTunes library between 500GB-1TB large and be able to connect and manage all three devices within that ONE library. Am I looking at making playlists for the iPad and iPhone since their memory capacity is much smaller than the Classic, or is there another way without creating three separate libraries?
The WiFi Seagate drive that Matt posted and RJ also has is definitely in the future, but given current circumstances with my marital status, isn't feasible at this time although Santa may be able to bring me something. Until then, playlists are the way to go? It seems burdensome to manage a 28 GB playlist, is that so? The separate libraries was a pain in the ass on the last Windows OS, but if it has to be done.....
Definitely, 1 library with a playlist for each device. If I can manage my 160gb + iPhone + iPad + Nano + wife's iDevices, you can handle your 3. Just make playlists and sync, nothing to it.
Playlist folders help as well.
I updated three phones yesterday. My iPhone 5, my wife's, and my iPhone 4.
The two fives went quickly, 45min for the first, half an hour for the second. The faster one was updated by wire because it was near capacity.
The four took almost 90 minutes, over the air.
No real hitches.
Loving it.
Ipad 3 took around 3.5 hours via wifi, but I do like it alot so far. I look forward to giving it some serious time on Sunday when I get back in town.
Updated two iPhone 4S's this morning via hardwire (laptop). 35 minutes to download via wifi to laptop, took maybe ten minutes to update each phone via itunes (after backing them up). No problems with the upgrade.
New iOS is gonna take some getting used to, though.
Quote from: mattstick on September 18, 2013, 10:31:13 PM
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on September 18, 2013, 09:23:22 PM
Itching to place this on the new iPhone since I have nothing saved on it yet only having had it for 48 hours, but think I will wait since there is (apparently?) no going back to iOS6 on an A6 chip?
In the meantime, let me throw this Dear Abbey out to the crowd. Now that I have three Apple devices, I would like to create ONE iTunes library between 500GB-1TB large and be able to connect and manage all three devices within that ONE library. Am I looking at making playlists for the iPad and iPhone since their memory capacity is much smaller than the Classic, or is there another way without creating three separate libraries?
The WiFi Seagate drive that Matt posted and RJ also has is definitely in the future, but given current circumstances with my marital status, isn't feasible at this time although Santa may be able to bring me something. Until then, playlists are the way to go? It seems burdensome to manage a 28 GB playlist, is that so? The separate libraries was a pain in the ass on the last Windows OS, but if it has to be done.....
Definitely, 1 library with a playlist for each device. If I can manage my 160gb + iPhone + iPad + Nano + wife's iDevices, you can handle your 3. Just make playlists and sync, nothing to it.
Playlists it is then, thanks.
Liking the new OS so far on the phone, like the Camera app and how many ways you can get to it quickly.
The quick shutter is an awesome camera feature I think too.
OMG it's almost time to order.
from: Apple Store <your_order_CAEN@orders.apple.com>
date: Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:04 AM
Figuring on picking one up next week.
32 GB Space > Grey ordered!
Anyone update to iOS 7 on an iPad 2? I've read mixed reviews on the compatibility; cnet seems to suggest it's not worth it, while arestechnica says it's manageable (although not perfect).
Quote from: runawayjimbo on September 20, 2013, 10:06:28 PM
Anyone update to iOS 7 on an iPad 2? I've read mixed reviews on the compatibility; cnet seems to suggest it's not worth it, while arestechnica says it's manageable (although not perfect).
Pauging from an iPad 2 running 7 right now. Been loving it. Only issue I've noticed is when I refresh the "all unread topics" page it sometimes doesn't just shows the most recent cached version with topics I've read still showing up.
What have reviews said? This is the first I've heard of any issues on ipad2.
upgraded my ipad 3
I'm not sure I get all the excitement over this
I guess I'm showing my age
one thing I can't figure out in the music app is the output choice. There used to be a little arrow that would let you choose if you wanted the ipad speakers or airport. I don't see that. tried the apple support website, no help so far.
edit - never mind, found it
Quote from: PG on September 20, 2013, 10:37:31 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on September 20, 2013, 10:06:28 PM
Anyone update to iOS 7 on an iPad 2? I've read mixed reviews on the compatibility; cnet seems to suggest it's not worth it, while arestechnica says it's manageable (although not perfect).
Pauging from an iPad 2 running 7 right now. Been loving it. Only issue I've noticed is when I refresh the "all unread topics" page it sometimes doesn't just shows the most recent cached version with topics I've read still showing up.
What have reviews said? This is the first I've heard of any issues on ipad2.
It's slower opening apps since the older processor can't keep up. I had such a nightmare updating my 3GS to iOS 4 that it drove me to get an Android. ::shudders::
did my phone. I like the control center and the today view from the locked screen.
I'm still not wild about the overall "look"
Is there any way to get the weather on the Today view?
eta- and just like that, the weather magically appeared
32gb gold ordered with a 7-10 day shipping notice.
Got it in there as quick as I could.
I'm a big fan of the iOS 7.
Tried out itunes radio today. I think i like it, compared to Pandora that is. I stream all the time at work and there are fewer adds and when you use all your skips, they regenerate after a couple of songs. Where as Pandora makes you change a station. That's convenient to me. And the selection you get is different than the 6 songs pandora has on file. That is also nice.
So, I have an iphone 4 that was my mom's that I've been using as an ipod touch for about 6 months. I haven't paid for cell service in more than 10 years because work has always given me a cell. Today I signed my iphone 4 up for phone service. Since I didn't buy a phone, I am not under contract, so if I hate having two phones I can cancel it with no penalty. that said, I kinda hate it already. But I think I'll get used to it eventually.
anyway - if you have my old mobile number, keep it. I still have that phone for work. But my new mobile is all I will have in my pocket on weekends and when I'm at shows, etc. I want to put work away during non-work hours if possible. If are someone who has my number and wants my new number, send me a pm. Thanks!
Shipped!
Gonna be here tomorrow!
Quote from: Augustus on September 22, 2013, 07:29:28 AM
Shipped!
Gonna be here tomorrow!
Nice!
What was your ETA on a ship date from Apple?
Just curious how quickly they are moving.
Quote from: aphineday on September 22, 2013, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: Augustus on September 22, 2013, 07:29:28 AM
Shipped!
Gonna be here tomorrow!
Nice!
What was your ETA on a ship date from Apple?
Just curious how quickly they are moving.
I ordered from AT&T and they originally had it Oct 1- 10.
Stoked to get it TOMORROW!
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Apple just set a new all-time record for iPhone launch sales: it reports selling nine million total iPhone 5s and 5c units this weekend, well over the 5 million of the iPhone 5 launch last year. The company also mentioned that more than 200 million devices are already running iOS 7. That's the fastest software upgrade in history, according to Apple.
:-o
Makes me wonder if I should have ordered it from Verizon instead of Apple.
Oh well, awesome that you got it early!
Crazy on the news from Apple though it doesn't really shock me.
Well that didn't take long
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/german-hacker-group-ccc-compromises-iphone-fingerprint-sensor-a-923910.html
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Chaos Computer Club: Hackers Crack Apple's Fingerprint Scanner
Apple recently launched the latest top-end model of its wildly successful iPhone, the 5S, to much fanfare. But a German hacker organization has thrown a wrench in the works by bypassing the smartphone's much-heralded fingerprint scanner just two days after launch.
It is supposed to represent a major step forward in mobile phone security by replacing the password. But the fingerprint sensor on Apple's new iPhone 5S has already been compromised just two days after it went on sale. The German hacker organization Chaos Computer Club (CCC) says it has successfully bypassed the biometric security system, called TouchID, using "easy everyday means."
TouchID works by allowing you to unlock your phone by scanning your fingerprint rather than inputting a password or code. To bypass it, the hackers used an iPhone 5S programmed with a fingerprint, and then took a high-resolution picture of the print from a separate glass surface before transferring it onto a transparent film which, after being breathed on to make it slightly moist, could be used to gain access to the device.
By doing so, the CCC said in a blog post, it wanted to demonstrate how fingerprint biometrics is "unsuitable as [an] access control method and should be avoided."
Such fingerprint technology has been around for a while -- it was included as a feature on the Motorola Atrix smartphone, launched in 2011 -- but TouchID has been reported as a significant step forward. That assertion is categorically denied by the CCC, with a hacker known as Starbug, who was responsible for bypassing the fingerprint security, saying: "In reality, Apple's sensor has just a higher resolution compared to the sensors so far. So we only needed to ramp up the resolution of our fake."
'Plain Stupid'
CCC spokesman Frank Rieger, meanwhile, said the organization hoped the demonstration would change the way people viewed fingerprint biometrics. "It is plain stupid to use something that you can't change and that you leave everywhere every day as a security token," he said, referring to fingerprints.
If the hack was confirmed -- with the CCC publishing a video and how-to guide on its blog -- it would represent a blow to Apple as the tech giant battles to maintain its grip on the smartphone market. The seventh-generation iPhone 5S was unveiled earlier this month at the same time as the cheaper and more basic iPhone 5C, which does not have TouchID. The two models went on sale last Friday with Apple seeking to boost its market share against its rival platform, Android, which is used by many other device manufacturers such as Samsung and HTC.
According to market researcher IDC, nearly 80 percent of the world's smartphones -- and nearly two thirds of its tablets -- are run on Android.
In an interview with Bloomberg Businessweek, Jony Ive, Apple's head of design, said of the fingerprint scanner: "There are so many problems that had to be solved to enable one big idea."
He can add the Chaos Computer Club to that list of problems.
http://youtu.be/HM8b8d8kSNQ
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By now you've all probably seen the video that is currently making its way around the web claiming to show how easy it is to fool the Touch ID sensor on the new iPhone 5s. In it, a shaky-handed individual uses what appears to be a thin film of some sort to trick his phone into thinking he was using his correct finger, when in fact he wasn't. It's important to note that we're still waiting on the video showing the actual process -- which is obviously the more important part -- but for the moment we'll give the videos creators the benefit of the doubt.
Easy? Ha!
Certain corners of the tech blogosphere are reporting this as an "easy" trick, and even the original posting on the Chaos Computer Club website refers to the trick being pulled off "using easy everyday means." Again, assuming this trick is legitimate, let's take a look at the list of items are required to pull it off:
A perfect print (on a reasonably flat and clean surface) from the correct finger needed to unlock the device.
Superglue (which must be fumed to allow adherence to the print itself).
A high-quality digital camera capable of capturing photos with 2400 dpi resolution.
An image editing program to "clean up" the print and make it useable (and the knowhow to pull this off).
A sheet of printable clear plastic.
A printer that can both print in 1200 dpi and has a special "thick toner" setting.
Liquid latex (or wood glue) along with a few drops of glycerine to smear over the printed image. You then have to breathe on the fake print to give it just enough moisture to be read.
Oh, and you also need the phone itself, which you'll need to obtain without the target knowing (or they can remotely wipe the phone in an instant).
If you're missing just one of these things, you're out of luck. On top of that, the iPhone 5s automatically asks for your passcode after five failed finger unlock attempts, and you can't proceed without it at that point. For extra security, it also has a setting that will wipe the device completely after 10 failed finger unlock passcode unlock attempts. You better make that print flawlessly the very first time, or it's game over.
It's a fingerprint, not an iron cage
As Apple noted at the iPhone 5s reveal event, the company's figures show that half of iPhone owners don't use any security measures on their devices whatsoever. Touch ID is designed to change that. Is Touch ID more secure than no passcode? Of course it is. Is it more secure than the standard 4-digit passcodes many people use (which can be brute-forced in less than an hour)? I'd argue that yes, it is.
But if you're storing nuclear launch codes on your iPhone, you're probably going to want to go with the 20-digit code route or, you know, just not let your phone out of your sight.
Touch ID is not faultless, and although using a finger you chopped off a friend isn't likely to work, there are techniques that almost certainly can fool it. Apple likely over-promised, with the talk of "sub-epidermal" scanning, but this doesn't mean biometrics is dead -- at least not anymore than my home door lock is dead because someone can photograph my key and then make a copy in 10 minutes at the local Walmart.
It's a new security option, and it's an extremely convenient and secure one, even if your spouse has access to a high-end printer, liquid latex and takes Photoshop classes in her spare time. Stop worrying. Your text messages and Facebook updates are safe.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 23, 2013, 02:49:46 PM
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By now you've all probably seen the video that is currently making its way around the web claiming to show how easy it is to fool the Touch ID sensor on the new iPhone 5s. In it, a shaky-handed individual uses what appears to be a thin film of some sort to trick his phone into thinking he was using his correct finger, when in fact he wasn't. It's important to note that we're still waiting on the video showing the actual process -- which is obviously the more important part -- but for the moment we'll give the videos creators the benefit of the doubt.
Easy? Ha!
Certain corners of the tech blogosphere are reporting this as an "easy" trick, and even the original posting on the Chaos Computer Club website refers to the trick being pulled off "using easy everyday means." Again, assuming this trick is legitimate, let's take a look at the list of items are required to pull it off:
A perfect print (on a reasonably flat and clean surface) from the correct finger needed to unlock the device.
Superglue (which must be fumed to allow adherence to the print itself).
A high-quality digital camera capable of capturing photos with 2400 dpi resolution.
An image editing program to "clean up" the print and make it useable (and the knowhow to pull this off).
A sheet of printable clear plastic.
A printer that can both print in 1200 dpi and has a special "thick toner" setting.
Liquid latex (or wood glue) along with a few drops of glycerine to smear over the printed image. You then have to breathe on the fake print to give it just enough moisture to be read.
Oh, and you also need the phone itself, which you'll need to obtain without the target knowing (or they can remotely wipe the phone in an instant).
If you're missing just one of these things, you're out of luck. On top of that, the iPhone 5s automatically asks for your passcode after five failed finger unlock attempts, and you can't proceed without it at that point. For extra security, it also has a setting that will wipe the device completely after 10 failed finger unlock passcode unlock attempts. You better make that print flawlessly the very first time, or it's game over.
It's a fingerprint, not an iron cage
As Apple noted at the iPhone 5s reveal event, the company's figures show that half of iPhone owners don't use any security measures on their devices whatsoever. Touch ID is designed to change that. Is Touch ID more secure than no passcode? Of course it is. Is it more secure than the standard 4-digit passcodes many people use (which can be brute-forced in less than an hour)? I'd argue that yes, it is.
But if you're storing nuclear launch codes on your iPhone, you're probably going to want to go with the 20-digit code route or, you know, just not let your phone out of your sight.
Touch ID is not faultless, and although using a finger you chopped off a friend isn't likely to work, there are techniques that almost certainly can fool it. Apple likely over-promised, with the talk of "sub-epidermal" scanning, but this doesn't mean biometrics is dead -- at least not anymore than my home door lock is dead because someone can photograph my key and then make a copy in 10 minutes at the local Walmart.
It's a new security option, and it's an extremely convenient and secure one, even if your spouse has access to a high-end printer, liquid latex and takes Photoshop classes in her spare time. Stop worrying. Your text messages and Facebook updates are safe.
But... But... But... It's so important to prove that Apple sucks!
'Paugin' from the 5S.
Crazy fast!
Quote from: Augustus on September 23, 2013, 05:01:07 PM
'Paugin' from the 5S.
Crazy fast!
Now you can fluff in real time!
Despite ordering at 3:02am, I'm now supposed to receive the phones between Oct 10 and 16. My leather cases should be here this week though.
Yeah, I cancelled my case from Amazon and just picked up one from Best Buy.
Along with a new running armband and adapter for my iHome dock.
Grrrrrrrr
I do VERY MUCH like this iPhone 5.
I like the fact that ios7 lets you swipe forward and backward in safari(back and forward pages) another small slick tweak.
On the other hand, I HATE that they got rid of the google search bar in safari. Yes, I have the google app, but it was so much easier in the browser.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 25, 2013, 10:47:55 PM
On the other hand, I HATE that they got rid of the google search bar in safari. Yes, I have the google app, but it was so much easier in the browser.
They just made the address bar a place for addresses or search. It works the same.
Quote from: PG on September 25, 2013, 11:22:13 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 25, 2013, 10:47:55 PM
On the other hand, I HATE that they got rid of the google search bar in safari. Yes, I have the google app, but it was so much easier in the browser.
They just made the address bar a place for addresses or search. It works the same.
fuckin neely.
Quote from: JustJezmund on September 25, 2013, 11:24:57 PM
Quote from: PG on September 25, 2013, 11:22:13 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 25, 2013, 10:47:55 PM
On the other hand, I HATE that they got rid of the google search bar in safari. Yes, I have the google app, but it was so much easier in the browser.
They just made the address bar a place for addresses or search. It works the same.
fuckin neely.
Quote from: blatboom on September 25, 2013, 11:30:11 PM
Quote from: JustJezmund on September 25, 2013, 11:24:57 PM
Quote from: PG on September 25, 2013, 11:22:13 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 25, 2013, 10:47:55 PM
On the other hand, I HATE that they got rid of the google search bar in safari. Yes, I have the google app, but it was so much easier in the browser.
They just made the address bar a place for addresses or search. It works the same.
fuckin neely.
:shakehead:
:shakehead:
Really? I never would've figured that out. Thank you! :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Quote from: antelope19 on September 25, 2013, 11:58:02 PM
:shakehead:
Really? I never would've figured that out. Thank you! :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
It's just like every other browser now, dude.
Don't worry, my Dad asked me the same thing...
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
did the iphone 5 go down in price after the 5s/5c came out?
My iphone 4 is about 2 years and a month old, and it is slow as molasses man. It lags for a good 10 seconds to open up an app and ill be typing out texts and it will freeze for about 30 seconds and then the whole message will be typed out. facebook/youtube/archive app/livephish stream any app that uses cookies or cache or whatever takes forever to load and sometimes just forces quits on me. Think its about time for an upgrade. I havent even downloaded iOS7 because my phone can barely run on the previous operating system.
There is no iPhone 5 anymore. You'd better look for remaining stock quickly.
Quote from: mattstick on September 26, 2013, 09:55:49 AM
There is no iPhone 5 anymore. You'd better look for remaining stock quickly.
I went to the verizon store today actually and they still had the 5. Same price as the 5c though.
which one is better the 5s or the 5c?
5S
sweet thanks
Not a big fan of reading, huh?
I paid $99 American for my iPhone 5 after the announcement.
They only had 25 left in the store, and that was last week.
Better get on it if you are going to do it.
I trust what you guys say on here more than what I read on other pages on the interwebz
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on September 26, 2013, 03:47:21 PM
I paid $99 American for my iPhone 5 after the announcement.
They only had 25 left in the store, and that was last week.
Better get on it if you are going to do it.
that's a good deal.
my only issue is the battery doesn't last long enough to do something with my phone that a phone is not really designed to do anyway.
other than that, it is fast a good product.
7.0.2 released today
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Apple released iOS 7.0.2 and fixed the two lock screen bugs that made headlines earlier this week. One affected Control Center and the other took advantage of an exploit in the emergency dialer. These hacks allowed unauthorized users to access photos, contacts and social-sharing features without entering a passcode. Besides these pretty big bug fixes, the update also brought back the Greek keyboard for passcode entry.
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on September 26, 2013, 04:28:21 PM
I trust what you guys say on here more than what I read on other pages on the interwebz
My point is that you could have scrolled up and learned a lot.
My 2 phones have shipped. 10/3 delivery date. I can track them from China. Stoked.
7.0.2 update this morning for small bugs.
:roll:
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 26, 2013, 01:29:56 PM
Not a big fan of reading, huh?
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 27, 2013, 07:10:42 AM
My point is that you could have scrolled up and learned a lot.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 26, 2013, 11:17:53 PM
7.0.2 released today
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Apple released iOS 7.0.2 and fixed the two lock screen bugs that made headlines earlier this week. One affected Control Center and the other took advantage of an exploit in the emergency dialer. These hacks allowed unauthorized users to access photos, contacts and social-sharing features without entering a passcode. Besides these pretty big bug fixes, the update also brought back the Greek keyboard for passcode entry.
LOL
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Blackberry announced today they sold 5.9M phones in Q2. Apple sold 9M in a single weekend.
blackberry, lol
Apple sold more phones.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 27, 2013, 09:33:04 AM
:roll:
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 26, 2013, 01:29:56 PM
Not a big fan of reading, huh?
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 27, 2013, 07:10:42 AM
My point is that you could have scrolled up and learned a lot.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 26, 2013, 11:17:53 PM
7.0.2 released today
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Apple released iOS 7.0.2 and fixed the two lock screen bugs that made headlines earlier this week. One affected Control Center and the other took advantage of an exploit in the emergency dialer. These hacks allowed unauthorized users to access photos, contacts and social-sharing features without entering a passcode. Besides these pretty big bug fixes, the update also brought back the Greek keyboard for passcode entry.
haha
Why do some apps/folders turn gray after a while?
Quote from: antelope19 on October 01, 2013, 05:46:21 PM
Why do some apps/folders turn gray after a while?
I haven't noticed this but maybe it's automatic app updating?
all my folders are grey
none of my apps are
Gray probably wasn't the best choice of words, it's more like they go dark until I use them again. I have auto-update turned off and I haven't noticed that it means there's an update available.
iPhone 5S post.
Still need to get me an iphone 5s
I cant upgrade my plan unless I want to lose the unlimited data option and pay the same price for a limited data plan
One thing that is driving me crazy:
Scrolling through albums that belong to a particular artist.
The albums and their songs are all combined in one view. Right now I have only 5 different Phish shows, average 20 songs a show, on my phone. That's some serious scrolling. :crazy:
Use Album view instead of Artist view.
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National Geographic photographer Jim Richardson has praised the new camera in the iPhone 5s after using it to shoot more than 4,000 photos on his recent trip to the Scottish highlands. In a blog post on NationalGeographic.com Richardson writes:
With intense use (I've made about 4,000 pictures in the last four days) I've discovered that the iPhone 5s is a very capable camera. The color and exposures are amazingly good, the HDR exposure feature does a stunningly good job in [tough] situations, the panorama feature is nothing short of amazing -- seeing a panorama sweeping across the screen in real time is just intoxicating. Best of all it shoots square pictures natively, a real plus for me since I wanted to shoot for Instagram posting.
Once I figured out what the camera could do well, I began to forget all the things it couldn't do at all.
Understandably, after Richardson's article went live, Apple's Phil Schiller tweeted a link to it with the word "iPhoneography." You can check out more of Richardson's iPhone 5s pics from Scotland at his Instagram account.
Yep. The camera was THE selling point for me.
Quote from: Augustus on October 08, 2013, 09:17:07 PM
Yep. The camera was THE selling point for me.
About the 5S, I have no idea.
The new app for the camera though is much improved, and was a selling point for me as well (assuming you are being genuine above).
Yeah. I like it a lot.
Pix look ultra slick.
First post from my new iPhone 5c!!!!!
I've jumped the bandwagon (finally)! New iPhone 5s in hand!
WTF do i do first?!?!
Bookmark some porn sites.
You never know when you need to rough up the suspect.
Quote from: Augustus on October 18, 2013, 05:09:59 AM
Bookmark some porn sites.
You never know when you need to rough up the suspect.
:mrgreen:
LMAO!
Well my dick is raw. Now what?
Read this thread I suppose...
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on October 19, 2013, 05:07:34 PM
Well my dick is raw. Now what?
Read this thread I suppose...
must have apps are etree music, live phish, spotify, google maps, phish od, listen to the dead.
Spotify and Yelp are good to have.
I haven't messed with the spotify radio function, but I prefer Slacker radio to Pandora radio.
itunes radio is already on there and doesn't suck at all.
announcement tomorrow - clearly not phones which just released, but iPad 5 and, hopefully, new Mac mini... and who knows what else.
Quote from: Augustus on October 08, 2013, 09:17:07 PM
Yep. The camera was THE selling point for me.
The camera/picture quality is the focal point for me. Your statement is making me chomp at the bit for the 5s that much more, if it's even possible.
Hard to convey how fucking bad I want this phone.
Quote from: Lifeboy on October 21, 2013, 03:28:20 PM
Quote from: Augustus on October 08, 2013, 09:17:07 PM
Yep. The camera was THE selling point for me.
The camera/picture quality is the focal point for me. Your statement is making me chomp at the bit for the 5s that much more, if it's even possible.
Hard to convey how fucking bad I want this phone.
I don't know what phone you currently have, but the pics I took this weekend at Hampton with my new 5c blew away anything I ever took with my iphone 4.
Quote from: antelope19 on October 21, 2013, 03:34:57 PM
Quote from: Lifeboy on October 21, 2013, 03:28:20 PM
Quote from: Augustus on October 08, 2013, 09:17:07 PM
Yep. The camera was THE selling point for me.
The camera/picture quality is the focal point for me. Your statement is making me chomp at the bit for the 5s that much more, if it's even possible.
Hard to convey how fucking bad I want this phone.
I don't know what phone you currently have, but the pics I took this weekend at Hampton with my new 5c blew away anything I ever took with my iphone 4.
do you need to be reminded of the rules?
Maybe they were dick pix?
Quote from: PG on October 21, 2013, 03:35:49 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 21, 2013, 03:34:57 PM
Quote from: Lifeboy on October 21, 2013, 03:28:20 PM
Quote from: Augustus on October 08, 2013, 09:17:07 PM
Yep. The camera was THE selling point for me.
The camera/picture quality is the focal point for me. Your statement is making me chomp at the bit for the 5s that much more, if it's even possible.
Hard to convey how fucking bad I want this phone.
I don't know what phone you currently have, but the pics I took this weekend at Hampton with my new 5c blew away anything I ever took with my iphone 4.
do you need to be reminded of the rules?
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
I haven't had time to upload anything. I'll get to it. I got home last night, ate dinner, and went to bed. Also, as August stated, they're NSFW. :wink:
On a side note, one of our friends just got whatever the newest galaxy S4 niner and said he was completely disappointed with the way his pics from the shows were turning out. He was our sober driver, so I
don't think hope it wasn't user error.
Quote from: antelope19 on October 21, 2013, 03:34:57 PM
Quote from: Lifeboy on October 21, 2013, 03:28:20 PM
Quote from: Augustus on October 08, 2013, 09:17:07 PM
Yep. The camera was THE selling point for me.
The camera/picture quality is the focal point for me. Your statement is making me chomp at the bit for the 5s that much more, if it's even possible.
Hard to convey how fucking bad I want this phone.
I don't know what phone you currently have, but the pics I took this weekend at Hampton with my new 5c blew away anything I ever took with my iphone 4.
I have the 4.
I'm due for an upgrade pretty soon, so all this hype is getting me psyched.
SloMo video is bananas.
Quote from: mattstick on October 21, 2013, 03:58:28 PM
SloMo video is bananas.
Love it.
Takes EVERY video to the next level.
Antelope wouldn't know 'cause it ain't on the C!
Lololololololol!!!!
Quote from: Augustus on October 21, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 21, 2013, 03:58:28 PM
SloMo video is bananas.
Love it.
Takes EVERY video to the next level.
Antelope wouldn't know 'cause it ain't on the C!
Lololololololol!!!!
:cry:
Guess I'll have to wait another 2-3 years until I find out..........
NEXT LEVEL.
on the way out the door, I checked to see the temperature - cool that it updates without unlocking the phone.
the other interesting thing is that I go to one location 4 days a week and a different place on Tuesday.
the notification center told me how long it would take to get to work today, with the correct location.
I find this helpful, and cool that it could to that without me putting anything in the calendar.
but - I'm a bit concerned that this thing knows too much of my whereabouts.
I could turn location service off, but that would make getting directions from "current location" or "where is the nearest" a bit more difficult
Quote from: slslbs on October 22, 2013, 10:03:48 AM
I'm a bit concerned that this thing knows too much of my whereabouts.
I find this a bit troubling too. I just think a lot of it is unnecessary.
I fully expect to wake up Friday morning and my phone to say Possum opener.
Quote from: DoW on October 22, 2013, 10:13:35 AM
Quote from: slslbs on October 22, 2013, 10:03:48 AM
I'm a bit concerned that this thing knows too much of my whereabouts.
I find this a bit troubling too. I just think a lot of it is unnecessary.
I fully expect to wake up Friday morning and my phone to say Possum opener.
:-D
Bvaz always delivers.
Quote from: slslbs on October 22, 2013, 10:03:48 AM
on the way out the door, I checked to see the temperature - cool that it updates without unlocking the phone.
the other interesting thing is that I go to one location 4 days a week and a different place on Tuesday.
the notification center told me how long it would take to get to work today, with the correct location.
I find this helpful, and cool that it could to that without me putting anything in the calendar.
but - I'm a bit concerned that this thing knows too much of my whereabouts.
I could turn location service off, but that would make getting directions from "current location" or "where is the nearest" a bit more difficult
This is the frequent locations feature.
It's pretty badass.
I agree, it's badass
I guess all the privacy people are just making me a little paranoid
Is location not a toggle option in Control Center?
yes
I know how to turn it off.
I guess I'm just pointing out the potential (paranoid) down side to the phone telling you everything.
I'm not one of those who believes that big brother is watching my every step, but obviously Apple is collecting a lot of data about me.
Quote from: slslbs on October 22, 2013, 12:49:04 PM
yes
I know how to turn it off.
I guess I'm just pointing out the potential (paranoid) down side to the phone telling you everything.
I'm not one of those who believes that big brother is watching my every step, but obviously Apple is collecting a lot of data about me.
Lulz, If they want to waste their time on my boring-ass life, go right ahead. I've got absolutely nothing to hide.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 22, 2013, 11:54:31 AM
Is location not a toggle option in Control Center?
No, but that would be a much better option than Airplane Mode, IMO.
Quote from: slslbs on October 22, 2013, 12:49:04 PM
yes
I know how to turn it off.
I guess I'm just pointing out the potential (paranoid) down side to the phone telling you everything.
I'm not one of those who believes that big brother is watching my every step, but obviously Apple is collecting a lot of data about me.
Of course, the difference between Apple and Big Brother is that you
voluntarily grant them access to your data when you buy the phone, agree to terms of service, keep the location option on, etc. And in theory, Apple should be a good steward of that data and not submit to unreasonable requests. But, well, you know...
7.0.3 available with A ton of bug fixes, as well as icloud keychain
Quote from: runawayjimbo on October 22, 2013, 02:49:21 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 22, 2013, 11:54:31 AM
Is location not a toggle option in Control Center?
No, but that would be a much better option than Airplane Mode, IMO.
Quick access to airplane mode is good. It would be nice to be able to customize Control Center with all of the common toggles. Like sbsettings, where the idea came from.
Perhaps, Apple has a vested interest in gathering up as much location data as possible, so they don't want to make it
too easy to turn that off.
7.0.4 available
Anyone else having this issue: when I'm listening to a third-party music app (SiriusXM, Phish OD, MusicArchive) and I leave the app, the music stops. If I go back into the app for a second and then exit, it continues to play in the background but the first time I exit it pauses whatever I'm listening to. It's really starting to bug me.
QuoteYou shouldn't be listening to music from a 3rd party app on iphone
Steve Jobs
Quote from: slslbs on November 15, 2013, 01:17:44 PM
QuoteYou shouldn't be listening to music from a 3rd party app on iphone
Steve Jobs
Sure, blame the dead guy.
I'm not having that same issue as I listen to the tune in radio app all the time. Are there any in-app settings that might need to be adjusted?
Phish OD app you say? For the most part I have no problem with just going to phishtracks.com via the browser; the mobile version works fine. Only thing is you can't skip through a track on the iOS mobile version. You can on the iPad and desktop version. Does Phish OD address this for iPhone?
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on November 15, 2013, 01:27:25 PM
Phish OD app you say? For the most part I have no problem with just going to phishtracks.com via the browser; the mobile version works fine. Only thing is you can't skip through a track on the iOS mobile version. You can on the iPad and desktop version. Does Phish OD address this for iPhone?
Yeah, my buddy just turned me on to this. Phishtracks works fine, but the Phish OD app is pretty slick (are they affiliated?). But I first noticed it in the SiriusXM app, so I don't think it's an app specific problem.
Quote from: runawayjimbo on November 15, 2013, 12:49:35 PM
Anyone else having this issue: when I'm listening to a third-party music app (SiriusXM, Phish OD, MusicArchive) and I leave the app, the music stops. If I go back into the app for a second and then exit, it continues to play in the background but the first time I exit it pauses whatever I'm listening to. It's really starting to bug me.
FYI - this seemed to have fixed itself when I upgraded to 7.0.4. Just some random bug I guess.
Never would have happened if you know who was still around.
iphone accessories just in time for Festivus
http://www.macworld.com/article/2062826/the-most-dangerous-case-3-ways-to-weaponize-your-iphone.html#tk.rss_all
Just picked up a 5s last week. I really like the new operating system so far, still working on customizing everything to my liking. Any have-to-have apps?? Suggestions?? Do's & Don'ts??
anyone running the new OS that use the LMA app have problems with start up crashes? Ever since I updated it will never start up. Anyone?
Quote from: JustJezmund on December 01, 2013, 08:03:10 PM
anyone running the new OS that use the LMA app have problems with start up crashes? Ever since I updated it will never start up. Anyone?
I've had that problem with other apps and fixed it by deleting the app and downloading it again.
Quote from: PG on December 01, 2013, 08:14:29 PM
Quote from: JustJezmund on December 01, 2013, 08:03:10 PM
anyone running the new OS that use the LMA app have problems with start up crashes? Ever since I updated it will never start up. Anyone?
I've had that problem with other apps and fixed it by deleting the app and downloading it again.
no dice.
Seems like the new iPhone rumors starting early this year
http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-iphone-6-rumors-devices-47-inch-57-inch-displays-are-reportedly-being-worked-1527066
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Apple iPhone 6 Rumors: Devices With 4.7-Inch And 5.7-Inch Displays Are Reportedly Being Worked On
More Android-powered handsets, with ever-increasing displays, are entering the smartphone market, forcing Apple (NASDAQ:NASDAQ) to work on a new iPhone model with a larger screen size compared to its current models, rumors say.
Speculation has been rife that Apple's 2014 iPhone, dubbed the "iPhone 6," is likely to feature a display measuring between 4.8 inches to 6 inches. And now, a new report from China's Sina Weibo has reported that the Cupertino-based technology giant is planning to introduce two iPhones later this year, featuring 4.7-inch and 5.7-inch screens. The report, which cites information from various Foxconn (TPE:2354) insiders, also claimed that both new models of the next-generation iPhone are likely to sport fingerprint biometric scanners.
Following the launch of the iPhone 5 with a bigger 4-inch display in 2012, Apple had said that smartphones with bigger displays are too large to use with one hand. However, the latest rumors suggest Android-based phones might be forcing Apple's hand, and it will be interesting to see how the company justifies its decision to expand its smartphone's screen size.
Rumors about bigger iPhone models first appeared in June when Reuters reported that Apple was looking at introducing at least two bigger iPhones in 2014 -- one with a 4.7-inch screen and another one with a 5.7-inch screen. According to the report, the reason behind Apple's possible move to enter the so-called "phablets" segment was the increasing pressure to deliver more than one new handset model a year.
In 2013, Apple released two iPhone models -- the premium iPhone 5s and the less expensive iPhone 5c with multiple color options.
In November, Bloomberg also reported that Apple could release two new models of the iPhone in the third quarter of 2014 with both versions featuring "larger displays with glass that curves downward at the edges." The report said that the new iPhones would feature screen sizes of 4.7 inches and 5.5 inches, to help Apple position its flagship smartphone strongly against Samsung's (KRX:005935) Galaxy Note lineup.
The iPhone 6 with a bigger display is also speculated to have an increased price tag. According to Chris Caso, an analyst at Susquehanna Financial Group, a larger display and other improvements would raise the cost of materials used to make the iPhone 6, which would likely increase the smartphone's retail price.
I really don't want anything much bigger than my 5c. At what point does it start to feel like you're holding a tablet to the side of your head?
Quote from: antelope19 on January 06, 2014, 02:31:57 PM
I really don't want anything much bigger than my 5c. At what point does it start to feel like you're holding a tablet to the side of your head?
Ask one of those people with those ridiculous Samsung devices.
I have a Samsung Note 3 at my new job. Still waiting for it to be templated for me but I'm dreading it already.
Seems like people have made an industry out of the Apple rumor mill, about 1/10th of the information that gets out there seems to be true.
Picked up a 64G 5S yesterday. It's awesome.
Quote from: antelope19 on January 06, 2014, 02:31:57 PM
I really don't want anything much bigger than my 5c. At what point does it start to feel like you're holding a tablet to the side of your head?
I think of trigger happy tv everytime I see someone with a note.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF65ONDupaA
Quote from: barnesy305 on January 06, 2014, 05:37:39 PM
Picked up a 64G 5S yesterday. It's awesome.
Just got mine today!
I like the size how they are. dont really think they need to be any bigger.
my current company gave me a work phone and its a galaxy s3 and that screen is huge. I feel like im carrying around a kindle.
Not really sure where else to ask this
I got a ticket for nuggets v nets game tonight and its a print at home PDF, not gonna have much time to get to a printer, if I pull the eticket up on my iphone can they scan it from there?
I've done it.
sweet thanks!
better stick to the Jitterbug.
I'm sure it's possible. Maybe try creating an Apple ID from a computer?
My iPhone is connected to wifi.
My MacBook is connected to my iPhone via the USB cable.
Am I using wireless network data, or wifi data on my MacBook?
Can the iPhone even pull data from wifi and wireless simultaneously (I don't mean technically but as a matter of programming)? I would think it always will default to wifi if that's on.
Why isn't the MacBook on the same network?
I'm staying in an AirBNB rental for the weekend and I think they have their guest internet all screwy, because I can connect my iPhone but not my laptop... it's weird.
I checked my data usage last night (after streaming mlb.tv for a while) and I was clearly using network data, not wifi.
Sometimes your iphone will show that it's connected to wifi but not have any access to that wifi without a password or whatever. The only way to know if its actually using the wifi and not cell data is to turn off the cell radio leaving it no option.
I do not believe it will use wifi to be both a hot spot and and to connect to a local wifi router. I believe it's one or the other. I could be wrong there, though.
Quote from: PG on March 29, 2014, 09:38:28 AM
I do not believe it will use wifi to be both a hot spot and and to connect to a local wifi router. I believe it's one or the other. I could be wrong there, though.
That may be right but Matt had the phone hooked up to the MB via USB, which can be used to tether.
Matt, do you have a regular tethering plan that could have been kicking on by default once it detected the USB connection?
PG's tip about turning off cellular is a good idea for testing.
New Software update available!
Still rocking iOS 6 here. Been TFL to look into jailbreak availability for 7. I do have it on my iPad, though.
Supposedly, it greatly improves battery life.
my baby is lookin good these days
WWDC next week! IOS 8?
Touch ID on the iPads and iPod Touches seems like a given...
New, cheaper iMacs
The iPad Pro rumour is persistent.
iPhone 6 seems like a given
I'm not looking forward to the larger screen size. I actually preferred the size of the 4S to my 5. I don't feel the need to hold a tablet to my face to make a phone call.
I have a Note3 for work, I adjusted pretty quickly to the size. An iPhone this size would be pretty rad.
I was hesitant about the larger screen at first when moving from the 4 to the 5c. I love it now. I agree that I don;t want to see it get too much larger, but ff they go that route, I'll def. check it out. I'm not ready to upgrade yet, but will be next year.
I'm hearing multiple apps open side by side on iPad soon! Let's hope that means my current air and not the newest models only.
Quote from: PG on May 28, 2014, 03:04:11 PM
I'm hearing multiple apps open side by side on iPad soon! Let's hope that means my current air and not the newest models only.
This.
Also, my work phone will be due an upgrade soon...
Keynote starts soon, yes?
1 pm eastern, I believe.
Can you stream it on iPhone or only lap/desktops?
Quote from: runawayjimbo on June 02, 2014, 12:15:39 PM
Can you stream it on iPhone or only lap/desktops?
Yes, go to apple.com via mobile Safari.
http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014/
OS X Weed, lol :smoke:
As someone who doesn't use apple computers...... :tte:
Watch ESPN app update is huge! Now works on Chromecast!
Well this looks useful.
http://huff.to/1mO6mvK
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iOS 8 Will Tell You Which Apps Are Killing Your Battery
On Monday, Apple trumpeted lots of new features in iOS 8: Smarter notifications. Smarter email. Smarter autocorrect.
But Apple didn't say much about one new iPhone and iPad feature that will bring a sigh of relief to anyone unhappy with the battery life of their phones and tablets (a.k.a. basically everyone).
iOS 8 will have a new window that shows you which apps are sucking the most battery life out of your iPhone or iPad -- both when the apps are running and when they are on standby. Then, if you're inclined, you'll be able to quit out of those programs that are killing your battery.
Here's a photo of what it will look like from Evan Coleman. As an iOS developer for the app Timehop, he got an early version of the operating system from Apple.
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1831479/thumbs/o-IOS-8-BATTERY-570.jpg?6)
At least one eagle-eyed tweeter spotted a very brief mention of the energy-saving feature during Apple's keynote presentation.
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The most useful feature in iOS 8 wasn't even mentioned pic.twitter.com/g07CPxG6qe
— Thorin Klosowski (@kingthor) June 2, 2014
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpJ3somCMAAkXEs.jpg)
Poor battery life is very high on the list of complaints about not just the iPhone, but all smartphones. A 2013 survey from J.D. Power & Associates found that battery life is the least satisfying of 19 smartphone characteristics.
As you've probably noticed, battery life has not been improving at the same rate as other smartphone aspects, like speed and memory, mainly since smartphone makers are pushing up against the limits of how much power the current generation of lithium-ion batteries can hold. Apple, for example, is now even experimenting with solar-powered batteries, according to The New York Times.
iOS 8 will be available on newer versions of the iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch starting this fall. Until then, it's just for developers.
Now we just need, you know, a better battery.
[h/t MacRumors]
Finally getting the Iphone 5s tomorrow, can finally get iOS 7 and update half my apps.
Walmart has dropped prices on the 5s to $99 and 5c to $29.
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 27, 2014, 12:24:04 PM
Walmart has dropped prices on the 5s to $99 and 5c to $29.
The 5S has been $99 at BestBuy for a while. We got both of ours from there. I like to support Best Buy as much as possible, as it'd suck to see it go the Circuit City route.
Quote from: khalpin on June 27, 2014, 01:07:28 PM
as it'd suck to see it go the Circuit City route.
Destroyed by a terrible sales-commission culture?
my iphone 4s needs to be replaced.
The only audible tones it makes is when the phone rings. Nothing for text messages, etc. Which would be OK but it also functions as my pager at work. It doesn't communicate with my car through the dock anymore.
the guy at the Apple store thinks moisture got through on dock. He sees some corrosion in there.
I guess I shouldn't have gone swimming with it (j/k - it never got immersed or even significantly wet)
A little pissed it only lasted 2 1/2 years, but I guess there are worse things
I could get by carrying an extra pager and using the headphone jack, but - what else will happen to it?
And, right now there is a 50% rebate through Verizon.
5s to be delivered Monday.
I picked up my 5S last night after my wife shattered her screen. We were due for an upgrade anyway (I was hoping to hold of until the 6 but whatever) so I got the 5S and she got my old and busted 5.
I took my first slo-mo vid at the company picnic today. I don't know how I lived for do long without that functionality. Makes everything better.
Taking an ipad2 and iPhone4 into the Apple Store tomorrow to see how much I can get in their trade-in program towards a new iPad Air or Mini... Figure they will both be unsupported after ios8 comes out so why not...
as the guy in the store was trying to figure out if my phone was fixable or not, he backed it up and restored it.
Everything is restored - except the music
:frustrated:
Quote from: mattstick on July 17, 2014, 11:56:43 PM
Taking an ipad2 and iPhone4 into the Apple Store tomorrow to see how much I can get in their trade-in program towards a new iPad Air or Mini... Figure they will both be unsupported after ios8 comes out so why not...
I'd take a look at pricing for the iPad elsewhere before I traded in at apple. I'm seeing 50% off iphones from lots of retail places right now. You can still sell the old stuff on gazelle or one of the others and come out ahead of apple's rebate program if the price is right.
Got $75 for the iPhone4 and $150 for the iPad2. Probably could have gotten more elsewhere but this was a simple transaction.
Used Heather's teacher discount and got $20 off the new iPad and a $55 Gift Card for the store... walked out with a new iPad Mini + Smart Cover for $108.
Nice work
Hit up the recycling program myself today. Had an iPad 2 and an OG iPad that went towards a new iPad Air. It's unbelievable how much lighter the thing is and the difference in speed is insane.
Nice. I have a 32gb iPad Air for work and it's awesome. (I have yet to use it for work)
Yeah, it flies. And I stream the webcasts to my Apple TV. World of difference on the lag and buffering from last night.
got my 5s last night. As expected, not a major upgrade from the 4s, but it is an upgrade.
I would have rather held out for the 6 or whatever they call it, but fate intervened. Got it with a 50% rebate, so can't complain too much.
I didn't know this but perhaps I should have. Be warned, that the only way to get a COMPLETE back up of your ios device is with a 3rd party app. Would have saved me a few hours re-loading tunes
You should be able to do a complete restore with iTunes, I've done it several times.
Quote from: mattstick on July 24, 2014, 08:40:30 AM
You should be able to do a complete restore with iTunes, I've done it several times.
yeah, I had to do it once myself on my old 4.
Quote from: slslbs on July 24, 2014, 07:07:01 AM
I didn't know this but perhaps I should have. Be warned, that the only way to get a COMPLETE back up of your ios device is with a 3rd party app. Would have saved me a few hours re-loading tunes
Was your 4S on iOS6? When I switched my wife from her iOS6 4S to iOS7 5, I had that same issue but I had no problem restoring from my prior backup going my 5 -> 5S.
all the music came back?
Quote from: slslbs on July 24, 2014, 10:53:22 AM
all the music came back?
Yeah. I remember being annoyed because it took so long uploading all my music, apps, etc. and all I wanted to do was take a slo-mo video of my dog leaping for a frisbee.
shit
I read about it and it said that the purchased music would come back but all of the things I manually loaded would have to be manually re-loaded
:frustrated:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/08/11/why-surveillance-companies-hate-the-iphone/
Good piece here.
http://m.tuaw.com/2014/08/28/apple-sends-out-official-invitations-for-sept-9-event/
September 9.
Mark it down.
Who has two thumbs, no job, and will be tuned into the Apple/U2 event today?
FAHK U 2
But I'll still tune in.
Since I'm on the bad side of the iPhone refresh cycle I'm hoping for an affordable iWatch and a new fancy iPod
Can't wait for this. My 4S is on it's very last legs. New phone can't come fast enough. :beerbang:
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 09, 2014, 10:16:18 AM
Can't wait for this. My 4S is on it's very last legs. New phone can't come fast enough. :beerbang:
My work iPhone5 is due an upgrade so... that'll happen. Personal 5s has another year, I think, but that's cool.
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 09, 2014, 10:16:18 AM
Can't wait for this. My 4S is on it's very last legs. New phone can't come fast enough. :beerbang:
I still rock a 4 (no s), so I am due - Also, I'm starting a new job next week where they pay for my cell phone bill but don't provide a phone, so I feel good about locking into a 2-year contract to get the phone.
Quote from: mattstick on September 09, 2014, 10:01:42 AM
Since I'm on the bad side of the iPhone refresh cycle I'm hoping for an affordable iWatch and a new fancy iPod
My fancy new iPod is called a Pono, and it should ship in October!
Quote from: mattstick on September 09, 2014, 10:01:42 AM
Since I'm on the bad side of the iPhone refresh cycle I'm hoping for an affordable iWatch and a new fancy iPod
I'm in that same boat...
Quote from: PG on September 09, 2014, 11:55:16 AM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 09, 2014, 10:16:18 AM
Can't wait for this. My 4S is on it's very last legs. New phone can't come fast enough. :beerbang:
I still rock a 4 (no s), so I am due - Also, I'm starting a new job next week where they pay for my cell phone bill but don't provide a phone, so I feel good about locking into a 2-year contract to get the phone.
Quote from: mattstick on September 09, 2014, 10:01:42 AM
Since I'm on the bad side of the iPhone refresh cycle I'm hoping for an affordable iWatch and a new fancy iPod
My fancy new iPod is called a Pono, and it should ship in October!
Don't know how I missed this but Congrats! :beers:
Quote from: antelope19 on September 09, 2014, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: PG on September 09, 2014, 11:55:16 AM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 09, 2014, 10:16:18 AM
Can't wait for this. My 4S is on it's very last legs. New phone can't come fast enough. :beerbang:
I still rock a 4 (no s), so I am due - Also, I'm starting a new job next week where they pay for my cell phone bill but don't provide a phone, so I feel good about locking into a 2-year contract to get the phone.
Quote from: mattstick on September 09, 2014, 10:01:42 AM
Since I'm on the bad side of the iPhone refresh cycle I'm hoping for an affordable iWatch and a new fancy iPod
My fancy new iPod is called a Pono, and it should ship in October!
Don't know how I missed this but Congrats! :beers:
engadget's live blog of the event today. Starts at 1.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/09/apple-iphone-event-2014/
Quote from: antelope19 on September 09, 2014, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: PG on September 09, 2014, 11:55:16 AM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 09, 2014, 10:16:18 AM
Can't wait for this. My 4S is on it's very last legs. New phone can't come fast enough. :beerbang:
I still rock a 4 (no s), so I am due - Also, I'm starting a new job next week where they pay for my cell phone bill but don't provide a phone, so I feel good about locking into a 2-year contract to get the phone.
Quote from: mattstick on September 09, 2014, 10:01:42 AM
Since I'm on the bad side of the iPhone refresh cycle I'm hoping for an affordable iWatch and a new fancy iPod
My fancy new iPod is called a Pono, and it should ship in October!
Don't know how I missed this but Congrats! :beers:
Word. Congrats, big man!
http://www.tuaw.com/2014/09/09/tuaw-liveblog-of-the-september-9-2014-apple-event/
much better. They're actually including pics.
webcast is fucked for me. Chinese overdubbed and choppy at best
I swear I'll never understand this whole watch thing.
ETA: I'm getting vertigo just looking at this thing.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2014/09/zsh0206.jpg)
NFC to make purchases? Big screen size? Smart watches? What will Apple think of next?? :crazy:
Haters gonna hate...
Can't wait to get iOS 8 next week tho.
iOS8 on a new phone will smoke iOS8 on an old phone.
Looking forward to next wednesday, though.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 09, 2014, 03:20:40 PM
iOS8 on a new phone will smoke iOS8 on an old phone.
Looking forward to next wednesday, though.
5S should be able to handle it, no? Anything earlier might be buggy though.
Quote from: runawayjimbo on September 09, 2014, 03:21:51 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 09, 2014, 03:20:40 PM
iOS8 on a new phone will smoke iOS8 on an old phone.
Looking forward to next wednesday, though.
5S should be able to handle it, no? Anything earlier might be buggy though.
I have the 5c. I would hope it could handle the new OS.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 09, 2014, 03:25:30 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on September 09, 2014, 03:21:51 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 09, 2014, 03:20:40 PM
iOS8 on a new phone will smoke iOS8 on an old phone.
Looking forward to next wednesday, though.
5S should be able to handle it, no? Anything earlier might be buggy though.
I have the 5c. I would hope it could handle the new OS.
Doubtful. Don't worry, you'll probably get some cool new *plastic* covers tho.
Will be pre-ordering the new 6plus on Friday.
Pretty jacked!
Yep, will def be ordering a phone. My work pays for my bill and they paid for my last 2 phones so $299 or $399 is no big. Might just do the 64. Not doing the plus, but I am sure it is sick. I have a pad and a mini pad so no need for that.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 09, 2014, 03:25:30 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on September 09, 2014, 03:21:51 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 09, 2014, 03:20:40 PM
iOS8 on a new phone will smoke iOS8 on an old phone.
Looking forward to next wednesday, though.
5S should be able to handle it, no? Anything earlier might be buggy though.
I have the 5c. I would hope it could handle the new OS.
Just curious, why'd you get the girl phone?
Quote from: Augustus on September 09, 2014, 08:40:12 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 09, 2014, 03:25:30 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on September 09, 2014, 03:21:51 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 09, 2014, 03:20:40 PM
iOS8 on a new phone will smoke iOS8 on an old phone.
Looking forward to next wednesday, though.
5S should be able to handle it, no? Anything earlier might be buggy though.
I have the 5c. I would hope it could handle the new OS.
Just curious, why'd you get the girl phone?
:-D
I had a 4, so anything was going to be a huge upgrade at that point. It was free and The white phone with a black case isn't so bad.
Also, who is actually going to trust apple with their $$$ given the recent problems with security?
Quote from: antelope19 on September 10, 2014, 01:19:26 PM
Also, who is actually going to trust apple with their $$$ given the recent problems with security?
That's the thing - your card info is stored on your phone, not in the cloud.
Quote from: PG on September 10, 2014, 01:20:53 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 10, 2014, 01:19:26 PM
Also, who is actually going to trust apple with their $$$ given the recent problems with security?
That's the thing - your card info is stored on your phone, not in the cloud.
Ah, missed that part. Thanks!
Quote from: antelope19 on September 10, 2014, 01:24:35 PM
Quote from: PG on September 10, 2014, 01:20:53 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 10, 2014, 01:19:26 PM
Also, who is actually going to trust apple with their $$$ given the recent problems with security?
That's the thing - your card info is stored on your phone, not in the cloud.
Ah, missed that part. Thanks!
Though, I guess most people have their iPhones automatically backup to the cloud, so there's a good chance your cards are there, but I think there's some encryption so that even on your phone the info does not include your card numbers, expiration dates, etc.
The good thing is, once the info is on your phone, you can pay for shit without your phone even being on any network. It could be in airplane mode an you can pay for stuff.
Seems like a good time to step up from this here 4S.
I'm assuming I'll find the 6+ too large, based on having handled other phablets.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on September 10, 2014, 02:05:13 PM
Seems like a good time to step up from this here 4S.
I'm assuming I'll find the 6+ too large, based on having handled other phablets.
Probably.
I'm looking forward to getting it in my hand in-store but I think that the 6 is all I'll need.
If they're still making Plus size iPhones when the 7 comes out, I'm all in. I have a Note3 right now and I'm starting to like big phones.
Not too big for pockets?
Quote from: PG on September 10, 2014, 01:37:12 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 10, 2014, 01:24:35 PM
Quote from: PG on September 10, 2014, 01:20:53 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 10, 2014, 01:19:26 PM
Also, who is actually going to trust apple with their $$$ given the recent problems with security?
That's the thing - your card info is stored on your phone, not in the cloud.
Ah, missed that part. Thanks!
Though, I guess most people have their iPhones automatically backup to the cloud, so there's a good chance your cards are there, but I think there's some encryption so that even on your phone the info does not include your card numbers, expiration dates, etc.
The good thing is, once the info is on your phone, you can pay for shit without your phone even being on any network. It could be in airplane mode an you can pay for stuff.
my understanding of the security issue is that they got in with multiple, multiple attempts. Apple supposedly fixed that problem by limiting the number of attempts to get in.
that said, I don't keep my card info in my phone. I don't bank or pay routine bills online (unless I'm online shopping)
and, based on recent events, I don't think card info is safe anywhere
(time to go back to stuffing $ in the mattress)
I'm planning on staying up late tomorrow night to pre-order.
I'm really torn on the color choice though. I've had white on my last two phones, and my iPad mini, so it's between the gold and the space grey.
Most of me thinks the space grey is awesome, but part of me really digs the gold.
Opinions?
Quote from: aphineday on September 10, 2014, 11:35:48 PM
I'm planning on staying up late tomorrow night to pre-order.
I'm really torn on the color choice though. I've had white on my last two phones, and my iPad mini, so it's between the gold and the space grey.
Most of me thinks the space grey is awesome, but part of me really digs the gold.
Opinions?
Personally, I would be happy with any of them but gold, but it's just preference. Depending on availability, I'll prob get grey.
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 10, 2014, 11:46:56 PM
Quote from: aphineday on September 10, 2014, 11:35:48 PM
I'm planning on staying up late tomorrow night to pre-order.
I'm really torn on the color choice though. I've had white on my last two phones, and my iPad mini, so it's between the gold and the space grey.
Most of me thinks the space grey is awesome, but part of me really digs the gold.
Opinions?
Personally, I would be happy with any of them but gold, but it's just preference. Depending on availability, I'll prob get grey.
See, I just need rational thinking ;)
Thanks, +k.
Def get the grey.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 11, 2014, 12:00:32 AM
Def get the grey.
STFU, Neely.
Seriously though, thanks for another common sense opinion. I do think the all black front looks pretty slick too.
Pro tip: use the Apple Store app to pre-order
pre-order? really? i've never had a problem getting one in store on launch day
In Toronto you'd have to line up for several hours before store opening to get one on launch day at a store.
Quote from: mattstick on September 11, 2014, 10:15:41 PM
In Toronto you'd have to line up for several hours before store opening to get one on launch day at a store.
i did that for my first two iphones, but for the fun/geek aspect... not because i was worried about not getting one.
when i got my 4s, i walked in at lunch time on launch day and got it
I sure would love to see Apple bring back the quick tweet/FB actions in the notification tray in iOS 8. Real handy in 6 and inexplicably removed from 7.
Quote from: mattstick on September 11, 2014, 06:14:48 AM
Pro tip: use the Apple Store app to pre-order
Yep...I have a business account so I have to do it through verizon directly. I ordered a 64gb iPhone 6 in gray and it might not come until first week of October. I know, first world problems, but the apple store is delivering on 19th...ugh. Stoked for new phone though! I have needed one for a year
WTF!?!
http://www.tuaw.com/2014/09/15/apple-launches-a-special-page-just-to-help-you-delete-that-u2-al/
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/my_phone_is_dying.png)
Some fun new stuff in iOS8.
I read yesterday that iOS 8 doesn't do so well on a 4S. I remember other past releases where the OS basically crippled the oldest "compatible" devices.
Well lucky for me I *just* upgraded to 7 as I was waiting for the jailbreak to catch up to the current release. So I'm also enjoying new stuff, just a year behind schedule. (The iPad has had 7 for a while but of course it doesn't get the kind of intensive use as a phone.)
Still looking forward to the 6, and iOS 8, though.
Looks like there's a bug in ios8 with Safari http uploading.
Currently unable to upload an attachment to a post from my phone.
Debating getting up at 5 tomorrow to try and get a 6 at the apple store. The store near me will disperse anyone there before 6 am. So there's a mad rush to get in line right at 6. I'm unemployed but starting a new job Monday so the question is, how do I want to spend my last free Friday?
I'd vote for "sleeping in."
After 6 hours of "updating" to ios 8, I got an error. I'm clearly in the minority here, but I'm left wondering if they'll ever make this an easy process. It's been painful
Quote from: antelope19 on September 18, 2014, 10:15:48 PM
After 6 hours of "updating" to ios 8, I got an error. I'm clearly in the minority here, but I'm left wondering if they'll ever make this an easy process. It's been painful
took 2 hrs on my 4s ... felt like forever..
doesn't run horribly either. .. bonus, till i get my 6 next month
In line at an att store. The folks here think my chances are good. About 30 ahead of me.
Some dude in a pickup driving by spit at us yelling "fucking sheeple!"
Good times.
Fanboys? Sure.
Sheeple? Not really the right slur.
iOS doesn't even have the largest market share.
Well I got in line at 7:30 at a store that opens at 8 and I'm getting exactly what I want. No biggie.
I'd say that makes you little more than a savvy shopper.
Pauging from my iPhone 6. :rockout:
Anybody else had problems with iMessage since going to iOS 8? Sometimes my wife's messages come through as iMessages, sometimes they're texts. This is despite her having another all iMessage conversation with one of her friends at the same time. And I'm on wifi. Makes no sense to me.
Anyone try SwiftKey in iOS 8 yet?
Samsung getting in on Bendgate with the quickness
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByaJOdqIgAIDkTU.jpg)
Quote from: PhishJY on September 19, 2014, 10:15:58 PM
Anybody else had problems with iMessage since going to iOS 8? Sometimes my wife's messages come through as iMessages, sometimes they're texts. This is despite her having another all iMessage conversation with one of her friends at the same time. And I'm on wifi. Makes no sense to me.
I didn't switch and had a similar issue this morning
Haven't updated yet on my iPhone 5 should I?
I've done it and it's fine
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on September 25, 2014, 09:54:46 PM
Haven't updated yet on my iPhone 5 should I?
Working well on my work phone.
As for #Bendghazi, it's a bunch of crap conflated by a couple videos.
Sure, if you try to bend your phone in half, you can probably do it. But maybe you shouldn't try to bend your six hundred dollar phone in half? Apple says they have nine complaints.
Nine.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 26, 2014, 09:36:20 AM
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on September 25, 2014, 09:54:46 PM
Haven't updated yet on my iPhone 5 should I?
Working well on my work phone.
As for #Bendghazi, it's a bunch of crap conflated by a couple videos.
Sure, if you try to bend your phone in half, you can probably do it. But maybe you shouldn't try to bend your six hundred dollar phone in half? Apple says they have nine complaints.
Nine.
But since they've only shipped about 20 of the 6pluses, that's a lot!!
Loving my 6plus. It's certainly big, but once you get used to that, it's really quite nice. Reading web pages is awesome. The battery life is really a great improvement, and that (and the 1080 display and image stabilization) was the big selling point for me. I really don't want anything bigger than this ever, and it may even be too big, but I've found a way to deal with it. Ready for the iOS update though, it's buggy as it can be.
Ever since upgrading to iOS 7, I've noticed that the music app regularly forgets where I've paused a song and will start the song over instead. Was this everyone else's experience? If so is that still the case in 8?
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on September 26, 2014, 11:27:11 PM
Ever since upgrading to iOS 7, I've noticed that the music app regularly forgets where I've paused a song and will start the song over instead. Was this everyone else's experience? If so is that still the case in 8?
Never happened for me in 7 or 8.
New phone lands on Monday. Can't wait. Not sure why Verizon took so long to send it to me, I can walk into any store and get whatever model I want, but at least it's finally coming. On the day the phone was released, BurmesePython was walking past the Apple store and there were over 200 people in line. He didn't even know the phone was coming that day. He turned the corner and an AT&T guy was on the street asking if he wanted to come in and buy a phone. Literally 100' from the Apple Store and this huge scene and he walked in and out with a new phone in 10 minutes.
After handling both phones, I kind of wish I went for the Plus, but I am sure the 6 will be good. The Plus is sweet though. Sure it's large, but it's so thin, who cares. Killer display.
Yup. That was my experience. Att store was night and day easier than the Apple Store.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/27/technology/iphone-locks-out-the-nsa-signaling-a-post-snowden-era-.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=LedeSum&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
QuoteSignaling Post-Snowden Era, New iPhone Locks Out N.S.A.
WASHINGTON — Devoted customers of Apple products these days worry about whether the new iPhone 6 will bend in their jean pockets. The National Security Agency and the nation's law enforcement agencies have a different concern: that the smartphone is the first of a post-Snowden generation of equipment that will disrupt their investigative abilities.
The phone encrypts emails, photos and contacts based on a complex mathematical algorithm that uses a code created by, and unique to, the phone's user — and that Apple says it will not possess.
The result, the company is essentially saying, is that if Apple is sent a court order demanding that the contents of an iPhone 6 be provided to intelligence agencies or law enforcement, it will turn over gibberish, along with a note saying that to decode the phone's emails, contacts and photos, investigators will have to break the code or get the code from the phone's owner.
Breaking the code, according to an Apple technical guide, could take "more than 5 1/2 years to try all combinations of a six-character alphanumeric passcode with lowercase letters and numbers." (Computer security experts question that figure, because Apple does not fully realize how quickly the N.S.A. supercomputers can crack codes.)
Already the new phone has led to an eruption from the director of the F.B.I., James B. Comey. At a news conference on Thursday devoted largely to combating terror threats from the Islamic State, Mr. Comey said, "What concerns me about this is companies marketing something expressly to allow people to hold themselves beyond the law."
He cited kidnapping cases, in which exploiting the contents of a seized phone could lead to finding a victim, and predicted there would be moments when parents would come to him "with tears in their eyes, look at me and say, 'What do you mean you can't' " decode the contents of a phone.
"The notion that someone would market a closet that could never be opened — even if it involves a case involving a child kidnapper and a court order — to me does not make any sense."
Apple declined to comment. But officials inside the intelligence agencies, while letting the F.B.I. make the public protests, say they fear the company's move is the first of several new technologies that are clearly designed to defeat not only the N.S.A., but also any court orders to turn over information to intelligence agencies. They liken Apple's move to the early days of Swiss banking, when secret accounts were set up precisely to allow national laws to be evaded.
"Terrorists will figure this out," along with savvy criminals and paranoid dictators, one senior official predicted, and keep their data just on the iPhone 6. Another said, "It's like taking out an ad that says, 'Here's how to avoid surveillance — even legal surveillance.' "
The move raises a critical issue, the intelligence officials say: Who decides what kind of data the government can access? Until now, those decisions have largely been a matter for Congress, which passed the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act in 1994, requiring telecommunications companies to build into their systems an ability to carry out a wiretap order if presented with one. But despite intense debate about whether the law should be expanded to cover email and other content, it has not been updated, and it does not cover content contained in a smartphone.
At Apple and Google, company executives say the United States government brought these changes on itself. The revelations by the former N.S.A. contractor Edward J. Snowden not only killed recent efforts to expand the law, but also made nations around the world suspicious that every piece of American hardware and software — from phones to servers made by Cisco Systems — have "back doors" for American intelligence and law enforcement.
Surviving in the global marketplace — especially in places like China, Brazil and Germany — depends on convincing consumers that their data is secure.
Timothy D. Cook, Apple's chief executive, has emphasized that Apple's core business is to sell devices to people. That distinguishes Apple from companies that make a profit from collecting and selling users' personal data to advertisers, he has said.
This month, just before releasing the iPhone 6 and iOS 8, Apple took steps to underscore its commitment to customer privacy, publishing a revised privacy policy on its website.
The policy described the encryption method used in iOS 8 as so deep that Apple could no longer comply with government warrants asking for customer information to be extracted from devices. "Unlike our competitors, Apple cannot bypass your passcode, and therefore cannot access this data," the company said.
Under the new encryption method, only entering the passcode can decrypt the device. (Hypothetically, Apple could create a tool to hack into the device, but legally the company is not required to do that.)
Jonathan Zdziarski, a security researcher who has taught forensics courses to law enforcement agencies on collecting data from iPhones, said to think of the encryption system as a series of lockers. In the older version of iOS, there was always at least one locker that was unlocked, which Apple could enter to grab certain files like photos, call history and notes, in response to a legal warrant.
"Now what they're saying is, 'We stopped using that locker,' " Mr. Zdziarski said. "We're using a locker that actually has a combination on it, and if you don't know the combination, then you can't get inside. Unless you take a sledgehammer to the locker, there's no way we get to the files."
The new security in iOS 8 protects information stored on the device itself, but not data stored on iCloud, Apple's cloud service. So Apple will still be able to obtain some customer information stored on iCloud in response to government requests.
Google has also started giving its users more control over their privacy. Phones using Google's Android operating system have had encryption for three years. It is not the default setting, however, so to encrypt their phones, users have to go into their settings, turn it on, and wait an hour or more for the data to be scrambled.
That is set to change with the next version of Android, set for release in October. It will have encryption as the default, "so you won't even have to think about turning it on," Google said in a statement.
A Google spokesman declined to comment on Mr. Comey's suggestions that stronger encryption could hinder law enforcement investigations.
Mr. Zdziarski said that concerns about Apple's new encryption to hinder law enforcement seemed overblown. He said there were still plenty of ways for the police to get customer data for investigations. In the example of a kidnapping victim, the police can still request information on call records and geolocation information from phone carriers like AT&T and Verizon Wireless.
"Eliminating the iPhone as one source I don't think is going to wreck a lot of cases," he said. "There is such a mountain of other evidence from call logs, email logs, iCloud, Gmail logs. They're tapping the whole Internet."
Sure, I'm sensitive to the hypothetical scenario of the kidnapping case. But anyone in law enforcement who thinks Apple has done this just so they can market their phones to criminals is so plainly missing the point. If people had confidence that the government wasn't snooping in on their (and everyone's) emails, text messages, call history, you name it, this feature wouldn't be attractive to the average law-abiding citizen.
Also, isn't this headline misleading? The NSA is mostly known for tapping data at the point of the data center, not swiping phones from people's hands and scrolling through your email. They already, so goes the suspicion anyway, know about your emails because they've tapped Google, or your calls because they've tapped AT&T, etc.
Apple couldn't have promoted better
My 6 showed up in the mail today. So far, I couldn't be happier. Side by side, my 4S looks like a prehistoric brick next to the 6. Pumped! :rawk:
So I'm pretty sure I can sell my unlocked still shiny and new 5S for $500, buy a 64gb 6plus for $600 from my provider and then downgrade my plan to have the same monthly payment...
Why would you need to downgrade your plan?
I paid for my 5S up front so I get 10% off my monthly bill because I own the phone without a contract.
If I bought a 6plus through my provider I'd no longer save that 10%, I'd actually have to pay an extra $5.
The last nail in #Bendghazi's coffin:
Consumer Reports calls bullshit.
http://www.tuaw.com/2014/09/27/consumer-reports-bend-tests-show-the-iphone-6-plus-is-stronger-t/?ncid=rss_truncated&cps=gravity
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Quote from: slslbs on September 28, 2014, 11:34:01 PM
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QuoteSignaling Post-Snowden Era, New iPhone Locks Out N.S.A.
WASHINGTON — Devoted customers of Apple products these days worry about whether the new iPhone 6 will bend in their jean pockets. The National Security Agency and the nation's law enforcement agencies have a different concern: that the smartphone is the first of a post-Snowden generation of equipment that will disrupt their investigative abilities.
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Yeah, about that. We're gonna need you to go a head and let us in anyway. You know, for the children.
http://wapo.st/1pEk5VQ
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Holder urges tech companies to leave device backdoors open for police
Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. said on Tuesday that new forms of encryption capable of locking law enforcement officials out of popular electronic devices imperil investigations of kidnappers and sexual predators, putting children at increased risk.
"It is fully possible to permit law enforcement to do its job while still adequately protecting personal privacy," Holder said at a conference on child sexual abuse, according to a text of his prepared remarks. "When a child is in danger, law enforcement needs to be able to take every legally available step to quickly find and protect the child and to stop those that abuse children. It is worrisome to see companies thwarting our ability to do so."
In his comments, Holder became the highest government official to publicly chastise technology companies for developing systems that make it difficult for law enforcement officials to collect potential evidence, even when they have search warrants. Though he didn't mention Apple and Google by name, his remarks followed their announcements this month of new smartphone encryption policies that have sparked a sharp government response, including from FBI Director James B. Comey last week.
Federal, state and local law enforcement officials have complained loudly that the companies are undermining efforts to fight crime, including terrorism. Apple's newest mobile operating system, iOS 8, is so thoroughly encrypted that the company says it cannot unlock iPhones or iPads that use it. Google's Android operating system plans to begin using encryption automatically, for all users unless they specifically opt out, in a version to be released in October. (It will take months or years for that feature to reach most Android users.)
Company officials have said stronger encryption better protects the privacy of users by toughening the security of the devices against a wide range of intrusions, by governments, criminals or curious hackers. American technology companies have been particularly eager to demonstrate their commitment to user privacy in the aftermath of the revelations by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden, detailing the extensive reach of government surveillance. Apple and Google did not respond to requests for comment Tuesday.
Holder was speaking to the Global Alliance Against Child Sexual Abuse Online, meeting in Washington, when he raised the issue of preserving government access to electronic devices.
"Recent technological advances have the potential to greatly embolden online criminals, providing new methods for abusers to avoid detection," Holder said. "In some cases, perpetrators are using cloud storage to cheaply and easily store tens of thousands of images and videos outside of any home or business – and to access those files from anywhere in the world. Many take advantage of encryption and anonymizing technology to conceal contraband materials and disguise their locations."
He called on companies "to work with us to ensure that law enforcement retains the ability, with court-authorization, to lawfully obtain information in the course of an investigation, such as catching kidnappers and sexual predators."
Even with the new forms of encryption, government officials maintain access to several sources of data related to the use of smartphones, including the records of calls and texts kept by cellular carriers and the device backups that most smartphones make on remote cloud services, such as Apple's iCloud. Police with search warrants also are free to use third-party tools to try to crack the encryption on smartphones or other devices. Courts can potentially order users to furnish passcodes that will unlock devices as well.
I was a bit worried the Plus was going to be too big, but my week using it and I have no idea how I lived without it... picked up my wife's 5 and thought, what is this, a phone for ants??!
I was messing with a friend's phablet last night. He swears by it. I still dunno...
Went with the plus. If nothing else, it'll be a sweet relief to be able to type comfortably in portrait mode without messing up all the time. My two causes for hesitation were 1) how will it feel in my pocket and 2) I like single-handed use. Well, I did the pocket test with other phablets and it's nowhere near the problem I thought it'd be. And as for one-handed use, the 6's screen is already a little too big for that anyway, so if you're going to give it up, you might as well do so for even more real estate. So went my logic anyhow.
Now if only restoring the old backup from iTunes wasn't such a piecemeal pain in the ass...
What sort of problems did you have restoring from backup? Mine has always been very smooth and problem-free.
I'm loving the Plus, definitely the best phone I have ever used. The battery life is insane.
Quote from: tet on November 09, 2014, 06:43:30 PM
What sort of problems did you have restoring from backup?
Seemed like it didn't carry everything over, e.g. mail passwords (also my voicemail password, which I can't remember).
I'm definitely liking the screen, which is huge and gorgeous, and how slim and lightweight it is. I did get a (pretty low-profile) case just because naked it feels quite thin and fragile. I'm still trying to get a handle on the best way to hold it for maximum one-handed use and when to go to two. I will admit: it can feel unwieldy at times. I'm going to take the coming week to see if I get used to the size or if I will reconsider and step down to the regular 6. One thing I'll say, which I hadn't previously taken into account, is that this thing is so large it can easily take the place of the iPad for a lot of everyday use, at least and especially for things like browsing the web and reading articles in bed or on the crapper. I certainly had no intention of making my iPad more obsolete in that way; this would maybe be another reason to not have such a large phone if one already has a tablet.
you know the trick to one-handed use, right? double-tap and everything comes down within reach.
I know, but it can still be a strain to reach that top left corner. So something I'm still getting a feel for is using that vs going two handed.
I will say the predictive typing in iOS 8 is pretty slick.
Quote from: tet on November 09, 2014, 06:43:30 PM
The battery life is insane.
64% after a full day. :-o
My 5S has been having some issues charging. I took a pin and cleaned so much lint out of the Lightning connector port, seems to be better now.
I had a similar problem with the headphone jack on my 4s.
Wife and I went into the Verizon store today. She walked out with a new 5S. I am due to have a new 128G 6 delivered within 2 weeks. I'm kinda pumped about this.
Does anyone else find notifications to be seemingly unreliable? It'll go through phases where I don't get them on the lock screen and/or th pull down tray, with no apparent rhyme or reason. This is most obvious (maybe just because of the amount of notifications) with things like Ecofon and Facebook.
just got my 6 today... coming from a 4s, this is fucking HUGE!
physically and technically...
its soooo damn fast! i'm loving having a working phone again!
however, my icloud backup is still restoring after 6+ hrs... has anyone else experienced this? everything seems to be restored, but it still says its restoring. i see that lots of other have had issue with this, just curious if other paugers have too
Quote from: jedifunk on November 17, 2014, 08:11:25 PM
just got my 6 today... coming from a 4s, this is fucking HUGE!
physically and technically...
its soooo damn fast! i'm loving having a working phone again!
however, my icloud backup is still restoring after 6+ hrs... has anyone else experienced this? everything seems to be restored, but it still says its restoring. i see that lots of other have had issue with this, just curious if other paugers have too
I'm about a week or two behind you, so I'd love to hear any stories/info that people have to share. I don't have much on the cloud, so I'm guessing my conversion will be easy. I very recently backed up my apps to itunes too, so I've got that going for me...
Also, I bought a Tech 21 Classic Frame case, which seems cool. It's scheduled to arrive a day or two before the phone. Now what to do with 128 gigs of memory...
Quote from: jedifunk on November 17, 2014, 08:11:25 PM
just got my 6 today... coming from a 4s, this is fucking HUGE!
physically and technically...
its soooo damn fast! i'm loving having a working phone again!
however, my icloud backup is still restoring after 6+ hrs... has anyone else experienced this? everything seems to be restored, but it still says its restoring. i see that lots of other have had issue with this, just curious if other paugers have too
I've had issues with corrupt icloud backups before.
Had to restart it from scratch, then it worked.
It does take a long time to get all the photos and everything up - I forget how long atm but less than 6 hours.
Also, the only music it will put back is purchased music. It won't put anything back that you loaded on yourself. A backup from pc won't do that either.
When I get around to it, I'm going to get one of the 3rd party apps that actually does a complete b/u of ios devices.
Never really understood iCloud backups, why not just use your computer(s)?
Quote from: mattstick on November 18, 2014, 01:28:32 PM
Never really understood iCloud backups, why not just use your computer(s)?
Agreed.
Also, pretty sure I've always been able to get my synced music back on my phone from a backup/restore.
Quote from: mattstick on November 18, 2014, 01:28:32 PM
Never really understood iCloud backups, why not just use your computer(s)?
icloud backups FTW because i don't have to do shit ... just plug it in at night when i go to bed (which i do anyways)... thats it done. backed up.
no need to think about actually plugging it into my macbook and being tied to that & itunes (which i haven't opened in years).
yes, it ended up taking 10.5 hours to complete the restore, but thats because my dumb ass has 4500+ photos on there.
I do iCloud backups too.
But I did just spend a few hours plugged-in recently, archiving a fuck-ton of pics.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on November 18, 2014, 07:32:31 PM
Quote from: mattstick on November 18, 2014, 01:28:32 PM
Never really understood iCloud backups, why not just use your computer(s)?
Agreed.
Also, pretty sure I've always been able to get my synced music back on my phone from a backup/restore.
according to the Apple Web site, it doesn't. I forget - I think I did a pc backup this summer also and only got back purchased music.
After a few weeks with the 6+, when I play with my old 4S or even my wife's 5, they are TINY. It's pretty funny because they never seemed too small before.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on November 23, 2014, 05:08:23 PM
After a few weeks with the 6+, when I play with my old 4S or even my wife's 5, they are TINY. It's pretty funny because they never seemed too small before.
Work gives me a 5, I have a 6. Now that i'm used to typing on the 6, trying to send work e-mail on the 5 results in a "Fuck it. I'll reply when I can use a computer."
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on November 23, 2014, 05:08:23 PM
After a few weeks with the 6+, when I play with my old 4S or even my wife's 5, they are TINY. It's pretty funny because they never seemed too small before.
i've had the same experience with my son's 4s... i still think the 6 is a bit too big for my liking, but i can't imagine using a 4s anymore
The 6+ may be "too big," objectively speaking, and I bet I would have been perfectly happy with the 6, but having spent time with the larger one I bet I'd have a real hard time scaling down.
It's a pros/cons thing. A little unwieldy at times, and more shifting around in your hand, but the huge screen real estate speaks for itself. I thought pockets would be a problem but that really hasn't been the case. The only time I really notice it as an "issue" is when I put my left foot up on something to tie my shoe. So, rarely.
Quote from: jedifunk on November 17, 2014, 08:11:25 PM
just got my 6 today... coming from a 4s, this is fucking HUGE!
physically and technically...
its soooo damn fast! i'm loving having a working phone again!
however, my icloud backup is still restoring after 6+ hrs... has anyone else experienced this? everything seems to be restored, but it still says its restoring. i see that lots of other have had issue with this, just curious if other paugers have too
Ditto to all of the above. Still restoring....
So I've had the 6 for 5 days now and it's been great.
Here's a question that may be dumb but is relevant for me now that I have a phone with actual storage capacity (128G versus 16G on my old 4S)...is it possible to download music directly to my iphone, or do I need to use a computer and dump it into itunes>iphone?
tracks that you buy from itunes can be directly d/l into the phone.
others have to go from computer to itunes to phone
i'm pretty sure you can buy direct from itunes app on the phone... i stopped using itunes when i subscribed to spotify a few years back, but i'm pretty sure this is the case.
also, i'm not sure if you can from other services
AFAIK, there is no way to add music to your phone without a computer - unless it's the iTunes Music Store.
Thanks all. Gonna have to fire up the ol' laptop...
to be fair, you can definitely "sync" music from a couple of places.
1. spotify, with a full paid account, lets you download music directly to the phone for offline use ... which is what i do
2. phish od app, also lets you download tracks/shows to your phone directly
Music you already bought can be downloaded onto the phone via icloud.
I think you might be able to upload your own stuff the icloud and be able to remove/download it onto your phone whenever you want.....not sure about that though.
Quote from: jedifunk on December 04, 2014, 08:01:33 PM
to be fair, you can definitely "sync" music from a couple of places.
1. spotify, with a full paid account, lets you download music directly to the phone for offline use ... which is what i do
2. phish od app, also lets you download tracks/shows to your phone directly
I knew about #1 and will likely upgrade my account soon. Was not aware of #2 and will be taking advantage asap. Thanks again!
Quote from: pcr3 on December 05, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: jedifunk on December 04, 2014, 08:01:33 PM
to be fair, you can definitely "sync" music from a couple of places.
1. spotify, with a full paid account, lets you download music directly to the phone for offline use ... which is what i do
2. phish od app, also lets you download tracks/shows to your phone directly
I knew about #1 and will likely upgrade my account soon. Was not aware of #2 and will be taking advantage asap. Thanks again!
yeah, their setup is a little janky at this moment, but it works just fine .... especially if you like to DL entire shows. for individual tracks it still works, but it also bring the rest of that show along for the ride but doesn't download it.
i'd like to see it add playlists as an option, so i could just pull together great tracks.
The "Health" app on my iphone says I average > 10,000 steps and > 4 miles daily. I almost never have it with me when I run.
Until this morning, that is. I had my phone in my jacket pocket as I ran 6 miles (previously calibrated by both car and runkeeper app). It said I ran 2.9
thanks, Apple
Quote from: pcr3 on December 05, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: jedifunk on December 04, 2014, 08:01:33 PM
to be fair, you can definitely "sync" music from a couple of places.
1. spotify, with a full paid account, lets you download music directly to the phone for offline use ... which is what i do
2. phish od app, also lets you download tracks/shows to your phone directly
I knew about #1 and will likely upgrade my account soon. Was not aware of #2 and will be taking advantage asap. Thanks again!
Yes it does, and it is choice.
Anyone else having issues with copy/paste in iOS 8? It seems to not work just as often as it does, specifically ignoring what I've copied and pasting something older instead. Really obnoxious.
has anyone used Mailbox?
Quote from: slslbs on February 04, 2015, 02:27:25 PM
has anyone used Mailbox?
I used it for a couple of days.
meh
I had the same reaction. At this point, especially thanks to Gmail's tabs, I don't need to learn a new inbox paradigm.
I wasn't excited about using it, but DB is giving an extra Gb free storage to try it
Quote from: slslbs on February 04, 2015, 05:28:41 PM
I wasn't excited about using it, but DB is giving an extra Gb free storage to try it
I downloaded and installed it for that purpose
Haven't actually used it though
so I was adding and removing some tunes from my iphone.
I had trouble adding a couple of tunes that got put in from a cd that I bought and got a free d/l from amazon.
I connected with a hard wire and the 2 tunes came over.
this morning, all of my non purchased stuff was off the phone. When I plugged it in and opened itunes, everything that should have been on the phone was. The list was complete. Except that there was way more memory available on the phone than there should have been. I tried turning the phone off, then back on - same thing. I re synched - same thing.
I can't add the tunes back without deleting them because itunes on the macbook thinks that they are there
anyone else come across this?
I've had a lot of trouble syncing music to my phone lately. I use a single playlist put albums to my phone but however you select items should work if you're doing it from the Sync screen.
Here's what worked:
Delete all music from the phone
Go to Settings | General | Usage | Manage Storage | | Music
Swipe to the left on "All Songs" to delete.
Scary right?
Now connect it to computer and sync away.
It may take a while but, it works. I was even able to interrupt it and resume the sync later successfully.
Lately I've found it best to manually sync music, that way you can add content from multiple devices.
I've been having serious battery issues with my 5S in the cold weather. It can go from 70% charge to off by just opening an app. If it's below 20% battery it could die at any time.
A bit of a bummer as I'd hoped to ride out the 5S until the 7 came out, I guess we'll see what the 6S looks like...
Quote from: mattstick on February 25, 2015, 09:27:05 AM
I've been having serious battery issues with my 5S in the cold weather. It can go from 70% charge to off by just opening an app. If it's below 20% battery it could die at any time.
A bit of a bummer as I'd hoped to ride out the 5S until the 7 came out, I guess we'll see what the 6S looks like...
My 5 (work phone) has been doing that. Fixing to bump it up to a 5s as soon as one of the attorneys steps up to a 6 next week.
I've got a year left on my personal 5s. still very happy with it.
thanks. I'll give it a try
5c is still trucking along. New 6 coming my way for work.
I was able to get telephone support from apple even though I don't have the apple care. Anyway, there is no other way to get my tunes back other than deleting and re - adding.
he recommended a few things
1-sync from playlists like RJ does
2-if you manually manage music on your device (like I was doing), do it hard wired. There are apparently reports of wi-fi synching screwing things up, which is what happened to me
3-3rd party back up software (which I have been meaning to buy but haven't yet). This guy has used i-mazing and thought it was very good
W/r/t playlists:
I put entire albums, lots of them, into a single playlist and that's all I put on my phone. It works well when it works.
Wifi sync has never been a good option for me as I'm a laptop user so I'd have to keep my laptop open.
No mention of the new iPhone? We're slipping.
Looks like a nice phone, frankly I think Live Photos is stupid, I'm wondering how much Force Touch will impact my work flow.
I'm looking to upgrade my work phone in January, will probably get a Space Grey 6S.
I'm under contract until January.
Then I'll be posting in this bitch.
Very happy with my 6+ so not upgrading yet, but iOS 9 is awesome. The new Siri functionality is great, and there's a ton of streamlining throughout the OS. Searchable Settings is worth the upgrade alone!
Oh, and multitasking on my iPad Air is friggin cool as hell. Now that several apps updated for it already, I can see how useful it's going to be. Sucks that you need the Air 2 for the real multitasking but this will do for now.
Edit: the new iCloud pricing is amazing too. Just decided to upgrade to the full terabyte and store my 500+ gigs of photos in the cloud.
Quote from: tet on September 16, 2015, 07:48:09 PM
Very happy with my 6+ so not upgrading yet, but iOS 9 is awesome. The new Siri functionality is great, and there's a ton of streamlining throughout the OS. Searchable Settings is worth the upgrade alone!
Oh, and multitasking on my iPad Air is friggin cool as hell. Now that several apps updated for it already, I can see how useful it's going to be. Sucks that you need the Air 2 for the real multitasking but this will do for now.
Edit: the new iCloud pricing is amazing too. Just decided to upgrade to the full terabyte and store my 500+ gigs of photos in the cloud.
I'm on the cusp of jumping into paying for iCloud as well.
Haven't upgraded my iPad air but I am liking iOS9 on my 5s and 6.
early first impressions of iOS9 are very favorable from me.
dislikes ... none thus far.
likes ...
- new san fran font is awesome
- siri suggestions screen is awesome
- new multitask is cool, but taking some getting used to
Contract is up today.
Pre'd the 6S.
Got the 6s today.
It is cool.
So, what do y'all suggest for ad blocking on iPad and iPhone?
Quote from: PGLHAH on October 01, 2015, 04:11:57 PM
So, what do y'all suggest for ad blocking on iPad and iPhone?
Personally, I don't mind most ads so haven't looked into it... the majority of my web surfing is free, and I don't mind keeping it that way if it means I have to scroll past a few ads every so often. Obtrusive ones that hijack your browser and incessantly pop-up without notice? Sure, destroy the fuckers, but otherwise I think it's totally reasonable to deal with ads.
I do a ton of 4G browsing... And this:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/01/business/cost-of-mobile-ads.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/01/business/cost-of-mobile-ads.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0)
I work hard to ensure that Verizon never takes away my firm's unlimited data plans.
can you come and work for our company?
Quote from: slslbs on October 02, 2015, 10:29:43 AM
can you come and work for our company?
Can I work from home aside from periodic jaunts to the Boston area for onsite visits and Jaunts?
i would be cool with it - I don't think admin would be
The new spotlight is impressive
I went to search for one of my contacts named Charlie Smith
From the home screen I swiped down, then I typed in Smit, no first name, and I started getting results
#1 hit was in itunes - "Mr Charlie"
(his real last name is not Smith)
Anyone having problems with the new iOs 9.0.2 update for iphone 5s?
My imessages wont send to other ppl with iphones I have to hold it down and send as text....and then it sends twice to the person. Saw some threads about it but doesnt seem to a fix yet.
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on October 08, 2015, 10:20:27 AM
Anyone having problems with the new iOs 9.0.2 update for iphone 5s?
My imessages wont send to other ppl with iphones I have to hold it down and send as text....and then it sends twice to the person. Saw some threads about it but doesnt seem to a fix yet.
I might be seeing that on 9.1 today.
On 9.0.2 I've seen some people need to log out of iMessage and back in again which tends to fix most problems like this. I'm running 9.1 betas though so can't say I've experienced this lately...
OK, I've googled and asked around, so I suppose it's time now to crowdsource the problem with the 'paug...
How do I get my voicemails off my iPhone without deleting them? The box is 100% full with all the msgs from my daughter since I moved out--3 years' worth.
The proposed methods I've read of so far involve installing 3rd party software (Audacity & iExplorer most commonly mentioned) and some require specific connection hardware, too.
Has anyone here done this?
ETA: I found a way to do it with no additional software. All set--feel free to leave me a voicemail. (Please don't leave me any voicemail.)
Wow, Apple fanboys were a lot different 14 yrs ago. My favorite is the one about the discman.
http://jezebel.com/the-best-comments-from-the-day-the-ipod-was-released-1-1738605065
Quote
The Best Comments From The Day The iPod Was Released, 14 Years Ago This Week
On October 23, 2001, Steve Jobs launched what he described as a "revolutionary" product known as the iPod, to which many Mac enthusiasts responded: "YOU SUCK, JOBS! WHERE ARE OUR SEX ROBOTS AND TELEPORTATION PDAs?!"
A Reddit user unearthed this delightful MacRumors thread from a 2001 that encapsulates the visionary wisdom of the festering hive mind known as the Internet Commentariat. People were outraged that Jobs would describe the iPod as a revolutionary device when there were already perfectly satisfactory MP3 players on the market like the RaveMP or the Nomad Jukebox. Duhhhh!
Many also grumbled, fairly, at the $399 price tag. But the main gripe against the iPod was Apple's drift into the consumer goods market (citing missteps like the Newton) rather than doing what they do best: computers. Think of what amazing comments you've left on the Internet for the amusement of future historians.
Enjoy!
QuoteI have no use for an Mp3 player.
My house has a CD player.
My car has a CD player.
My Mac has a CD player
I don't use headphones.
The iPod requires me to change my lifestyle to meet it's needs...
I need round holes, not square holes.
For $99 I might buy the toy, for $399? Why?
Doesn't a Mac with a CDR undermine the need for most of this? All that's left is the number of songs you can play and the ability to listen to all of them with headphones anywhere. Do I really need ALL my songs ALL the time?
uhm, no.
Won't last. Another Cube.
QuoteAll that hype for an MP3 player? Break-thru digital device? The Reality Distiortion Field™ is starting to warp Steve's mind if he thinks for one second that this thing is gonna take off.
QuoteThis iPod is for spoil rich kids with insane parents or an Apple fan as fannatic as a Taliban. It has good features but forget about getting it for $399!!!! Never, who gets that thing is a very stupid person.
QuoteNo wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.
I am very sad that Apple seems to be repeating the same mistake they made with the Cube - great, nifty product that anyone would love to own, except that it's burdened by an unbelievably poor price/performance ratio.
Raise your hand if you have iTunes... Raise your hand if you have a FireWire port... Raise your hand if you have both... Raise your hand if you have $400 to spend on a cute Apple device... There is Apple's market. Pretty slim, eh? I don't see many sales in the future of iPod.
Quotethis really isn't that revolutionary of a product. I have a Nomad Jukebox with a 6gig hardrive and it only cost me $250. It works great and syncs fine with the computer and the transfer is relativley fast. I don't know what the big deal is. So...it works well with apple's software....big deal, anyone can do that. There is nothing there of interest. It's just a little but smaller, has a little better battery, and is $150 dollars more. Whatever.......this thing would be cool.....for $200.
Regards,
Matt Hodgson
QuoteAll I can say is, as an Apple "fan", I'm sad.
QuoteYou are all a bunch of imbecile crybabies. I bet you haven't even gone over the specs and all you can do is whine and cry because you didn't get a Newton. Get a life! I bet all you do is troll Mac bbs' critizicing [sic] Apple and how they can NEVER meet your stupid way out of this world expectations.
THIS THING IS AMAZING!!!
It's not jus ANOTHER mp3 player. It's a BREAKTROUGH[sic] mp3 player!
QuoteIf the ipod is only the world's most baddass MP3 player then I don't know if I'm really going to stand in line to buy it, I have a cd walkman and a burner already, and besides that now that I don't have a dotcom job anymore I need that $400 to pay car payments and rent. Steve, bring down the price or add video to it and I'll eat TopRamen for a month to afford one.
QuoteA few comments have already come in saying that this product isn't "innovative" enough. You can get more-or-less the same thing elsewhere.
But what does being highly innovative get Apple? Think Newton. It still runs circles around the Palm, but was a commercial failure. It was too innovative.
But, how about if you took the idea of an MP3 player, made it look nice, gave it a Firewire port for fast transfers and easy recharging, and made the whole thing sync seamlessly with iTunes.
Sounds like a pretty good idea to me. I imagine they'll sell quite a few. It's the right feature set at the right time.
Bonus: Here's the first iPod commercial
https://youtu.be/mE_bDNaYAr8
anyone running 9.1.whatever on the iphon 5s? it asks me everyday to update, i know it has the new emojis not interested in that really but does it slow the phone down at all? any issues with texts/pics sending etc?
its fine
thanks!
I have it.
I haven't noticed any significant difference
Does anybody else have an extremely difficult time updating applications on their iPhone?
Quote from: zimbra on June 15, 2016, 10:09:48 AM
Does anybody else have an extremely difficult time updating applications on their iPhone?
Not really. They just do it on their own.
What sort of trouble are you experiencing?
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 15, 2016, 10:19:58 AM
Quote from: zimbra on June 15, 2016, 10:09:48 AM
Does anybody else have an extremely difficult time updating applications on their iPhone?
Not really. They just do it on their own.
What sort of trouble are you experiencing?
When I click the "update" icon next to their name in the App Store it will bring up the circle like its going to update then disappear immediately and go back to "update"
Quote from: zimbra on June 15, 2016, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 15, 2016, 10:19:58 AM
Quote from: zimbra on June 15, 2016, 10:09:48 AM
Does anybody else have an extremely difficult time updating applications on their iPhone?
Not really. They just do it on their own.
What sort of trouble are you experiencing?
When I click the "update" icon next to their name in the App Store it will bring up the circle like its going to update then disappear immediately and go back to "update"
If it's just one app that's happening with just delete the app and download it again. If it's all, I don't know what to tell you. Are you on wifi when that happens?
You could also try downloading app updates within iTunes on the computer you sync your phone with, and then update the apps during that process.
Your phone isn't out of space, is it?
Quote from: PGLHAH on June 15, 2016, 11:23:15 AM
If it's just one app that's happening with just delete the app and download it again. If it's all, I don't know what to tell you. Are you on wifi when that happens?
It is normally all of them or nearly all. Both, on wifi and not on wifi.
Quote from: VDB on June 15, 2016, 02:54:00 PM
You could also try downloading app updates within iTunes on the computer you sync your phone with, and then update the apps during that process.
This is what I have done in the past but the past few times I've tried I haven't seen an option under the app's part of the Itunes?? Am I just missing something?
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 16, 2016, 10:18:04 AM
Your phone isn't out of space, is it?
I have around 2gb free...
That happens on my iPad fairly often. After clicking the update button the second time, however, it always works.
Quote from: zimbra on June 16, 2016, 04:22:30 PM
Quote from: VDB on June 15, 2016, 02:54:00 PM
You could also try downloading app updates within iTunes on the computer you sync your phone with, and then update the apps during that process.
This is what I have done in the past but the past few times I've tried I haven't seen an option under the app's part of the Itunes?? Am I just missing something?
When you select Apps in iTunes (in the regular view, not your phone's view), it should show icons of all the apps that have been transferred to your computer, with a big "Update" mark on the corner if one's available. Or click over to "Updates" at the top and you can update them individually or in bulk. If you have apps that aren't on your computer yet you can "transfer purchases" when you sync the phone.
My company recently switched our email to be cloud based & have started new security initiatives. While I think/hope the cloud will help with certain email archive issues on devices and protect our company's data...it also prompted a new app rollout. We are now required to install AirWatch Agent on our personal devices to access work email & calendar. Instead of using two separate devices, work and personal, I prefer to use one and receive the discounted AT&T rate/allowance. I am not required to have work email on my device but I struggle with separating myself from work when I leave the office, therefore it is just easier to have my email available at all times. My concern is what data can they actually access on my device? My concern is internet browsing data, SMS/MMS, phone calls, Facetimes, iMessages, Social Media apps, private email, and the screen itself.
I know that I can turn off location data via settings on my iPhone's settings but I have found little information on their ability to see my browsing data. I did find a good article that lines out some of these issues but would still appreciate your expertise..
http://blogs.air-watch.com/2016/02/3-things-need-know-airwatch-privacy-end-users/#.V54xcTkrK2w (http://blogs.air-watch.com/2016/02/3-things-need-know-airwatch-privacy-end-users/#.V54xcTkrK2w)
(it should be noted that I never connect to company wifi on my iPhone)
Quote from: VDB on June 16, 2016, 05:03:20 PM
Quote from: zimbra on June 16, 2016, 04:22:30 PM
Quote from: VDB on June 15, 2016, 02:54:00 PM
You could also try downloading app updates within iTunes on the computer you sync your phone with, and then update the apps during that process.
This is what I have done in the past but the past few times I've tried I haven't seen an option under the app's part of the Itunes?? Am I just missing something?
When you select Apps in iTunes (in the regular view, not your phone's view), it should show icons of all the apps that have been transferred to your computer, with a big "Update" mark on the corner if one's available. Or click over to "Updates" at the top and you can update them individually or in bulk. If you have apps that aren't on your computer yet you can "transfer purchases" when you sync the phone.
Ahh, that was the problem. I was trying to update them in the phone view, thanks for the help! When not by my computer I have been connecting to wifi to update apps every time and it seems to have a lot higher success rate.
Thanks for all the help!
Interested in hearing stories from people who've gone from an unlimited data plan to a capped one and (1) totally regret it or (2) totally love it. I'm still on AT&T's grandfathered plan but am considering shaving my bill by going to a 5GB one. I think I've only ever exceeded that amount once (I tend to average around 2.4), but there's no telling what the future of mobile data usage looks like. And once I give up the unlimited plan, it's gone.
Help.
People seem puzzled as to why I carry two phones: one for work, one for me.
Firm phone has unlimited data.
Running into a lot of data issues myself.
I just got the SE phone when I had the 5s before. I have been streaming TV shows on the bus rides to and from work. I use almost more than 10GB a month with the streaming. Thinking about going to the unlimited plan. I went through and turned off the wifi assist and the background refreshing, it must be the higher quality video for the SE/6 model that is making my data go up a lot from when I was doing the same stuff with the 5s.
RJ: I imagine you can log a lot of time and data streaming things during your commute, no?
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on August 19, 2016, 05:15:34 PM
Running into a lot of data issues myself.
I just got the SE phone when I had the 5s before. I have been streaming TV shows on the bus rides to and from work. I use almost more than 10GB a month with the streaming. Thinking about going to the unlimited plan. I went through and turned off the wifi assist and the background refreshing, it must be the higher quality video for the SE/6 model that is making my data go up a lot from when I was doing the same stuff with the 5s.
no wifi on the bus?? BS!!
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on August 19, 2016, 05:15:34 PM
Running into a lot of data issues myself.
I just got the SE phone when I had the 5s before. I have been streaming TV shows on the bus rides to and from work. I use almost more than 10GB a month with the streaming. Thinking about going to the unlimited plan. I went through and turned off the wifi assist and the background refreshing, it must be the higher quality video for the SE/6 model that is making my data go up a lot from when I was doing the same stuff with the 5s.
Yeah, the only time I really blew up my usage (and got a message from AT&T warning me to get ready to get throttled) was shortly after I got the 6+ with its big-ass screen and streamed some sports over LTE via the ESPN app -- apparently in, like, full HD and at a severe data-swallowing rate, cuz I didn't even watch all that much.
Quote from: PGLHAH on August 19, 2016, 05:17:47 PM
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on August 19, 2016, 05:15:34 PM
Running into a lot of data issues myself.
I just got the SE phone when I had the 5s before. I have been streaming TV shows on the bus rides to and from work. I use almost more than 10GB a month with the streaming. Thinking about going to the unlimited plan. I went through and turned off the wifi assist and the background refreshing, it must be the higher quality video for the SE/6 model that is making my data go up a lot from when I was doing the same stuff with the 5s.
no wifi on the bus?? BS!!
haha I wish!
They need some fiber optics on there with that amount of ppl that would be using it though.
Quote from: VDB on August 19, 2016, 05:16:10 PM
RJ: I imagine you can log a lot of time and data streaming things during your commute, no?
Yeah but I don't do as much as you'd think.
I don't Spotify or applemuzak but I freely dl podcasts and shows via relisten where/whenever I want.
I fix these things all day long. If you ever want a phone fixed or some advice, PM me I can hook it up Blanks and Postage style (send me your device, the part cost, and shipping). But seriously, I get parts for super cheap. I work at a repair shop. Obviously this would be something you could only do if you had a backup phone... or didn't care if you went without a phone.
To give you an idea:
i6 and i5s are around $25
i6+ are around $50
SE uses i5s screens
i6S are pretty pricey, around $100
i6S+ are $170
Obviously I can do anything else on these as well. Just PM me if you want to. By the way I work at uBreakiFix, it's a national chain.
Since you mention it: Not long ago, I had the screen replaced on my 6+. I feel like it's been since around that time that the proximity sensor doesn't work anymore, and consequently I'm always pressing buttons with my face while on calls. Could that be due to a bad install and/or part?
Quote from: VDB on August 19, 2016, 07:42:10 PM
Since you mention it: Not long ago, I had the screen replaced on my 6+. I feel like it's been since around that time that the proximity sensor doesn't work anymore, and consequently I'm always pressing buttons with my face while on calls. Could that be due to a bad install and/or part?
There's normally a bracket that holds the prox/camera in place (also subsequently the earspeaker connects to that flex, which also includes a mic) and there's a good chance the new screen was missing those brackets, I've seen a lot of cheaper screens don't have the bracket so therefore the prox might be just not aligned with the holes.
Top center, its a clear rectangular bracket. The prox sensor is the back rectangle with the 2 little lenses (just below the tweezers)
(https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/VtFOOwXyGWaMZlJb)
If you're interested in fixing it yourself you can just either try to open it up and try to realign it. Or sometimes, a trick that works for us is to use a dry erase marker on one of the light sensor lenses. Sometimes that will work if the holes are too translucent. Otherwise, if you don't care about the slight visual defect, you can scratch those areas out (sometimes even works with the dry erase as a combo) to let more light in.
If you want, I can send some brackets your way. Free of charge! Just PM your address if you're interested (or willing to risk doing the repair yourself.) I can instruct you on the most proper precautions and method to do it, its pretty easy honestly.
It's all about diagnosing the problem with combonations of tricks on these phones. There's ususally no one fix all
Also a really fast way to test the prox is to pop up siri (gotta have internet or data connected) and cover the prox, it will trigger.
Thanks for the insights. I wouldn't mind messing with it myself except I'm taking it back to the repair shop anyway. I had previously taken it in because I was randomly getting ghost touches on the screen -- phantom taps that made using the phone impossible during these spells -- and homeboy at the shop said a replacement screen would do the trick. Well, it didn't, and then he refused to keep tinkering on account of my not having the newest OS and also having a jailbreak. So after some time I finally got around to updating to 9.3.3. and damned if the problem isn't still here. So I'll be paying them another visit.
Quote from: VDB on August 22, 2016, 11:18:08 AM
Thanks for the insights. I wouldn't mind messing with it myself except I'm taking it back to the repair shop anyway. I had previously taken it in because I was randomly getting ghost touches on the screen -- phantom taps that made using the phone impossible during these spells -- and homeboy at the shop said a replacement screen would do the trick. Well, it didn't, and then he refused to keep tinkering on account of my not having the newest OS and also having a jailbreak. So after some time I finally got around to updating to 9.3.3. and damned if the problem isn't still here. So I'll be paying them another visit.
Yeah that's definitely a screen issue. I know some of these manufacturers aren't putting the proper grounding tape over certain pins/connectors etc. But at the same time, with those brackets it really sounds like they use lower quality parts. I've never heard of jailbroken phones causing issues with ghost touching. I have heard of it making the screen not work at all though haha.
Well, the thing is the ghost touch issue started with the OEM screen. Just out of the blue and not following any kind of OS monkeying; I've been jailbreaking for years.
Get a load of this article -- how timely. Seems I'm far from the only one having touch problems with a 6-plus, and this would explain why replacing the screen didn't solve the problem.
http://ifixit.org/blog/8309/iphone-6-plus-gray-flicker-touch-death/
Quote from: VDB on August 24, 2016, 10:29:13 AM
Get a load of this article -- how timely. Seems I'm far from the only one having touch problems with a 6-plus, and this would explain why replacing the screen didn't solve the problem.
http://ifixit.org/blog/8309/iphone-6-plus-gray-flicker-touch-death/
Oh you didn't mention the grey lines. That is the kiss of death. Means board damage every time. Whenever we get someone in with that we just instruct them to replace the phone.
IMO, the 6 series is kinda trash. We see people in all the time with bent frames, board damage is rampant. The touchID is a fiasco. The fact that the LCD gets damaged so easily. I could go on. They're good for people who take care of their phones. But otherwise these things are so damn fragile!
Quote"I took [my phone] to the 'Geniuses' at Apple Store in Westfield Valley Fair mall (Santa Clara, CA)," one iPhone 6 Plus owner wrote on Apple's support forum. "After a very long wait (~2 hrs) I finally met with a rep. He acknowledged the problem (he was very familiar with it), but said Apple doesn't recognize it as an issue, and so there is not much he can do." Another iPhone 6 Plus owner was apparently told by an Apple employee that people come in with this issue "several times per day." "After talking to a tech, I got exactly what I expected 'You're out of warranty and you're [sic] only option is to buy a new phone," the user wrote.
At least Apple stands behind their products.
Quote from: ph92 on August 24, 2016, 10:49:32 AM
Quote from: VDB on August 24, 2016, 10:29:13 AM
Get a load of this article -- how timely. Seems I'm far from the only one having touch problems with a 6-plus, and this would explain why replacing the screen didn't solve the problem.
http://ifixit.org/blog/8309/iphone-6-plus-gray-flicker-touch-death/
Oh you didn't mention the grey lines. That is the kiss of death. Means board damage every time. Whenever we get someone in with that we just instruct them to replace the phone.
IMO, the 6 series is kinda trash. We see people in all the time with bent frames, board damage is rampant. The touchID is a fiasco. The fact that the LCD gets damaged so easily. I could go on. They're good for people who take care of their phones. But otherwise these things are so damn fragile!
I don't personally have the gray lines but I get bad flareups of the unresponsive touch/ghost touch issue. I have sometimes found that bending or squeezing the phone temporarily helps, so I suspect maybe I'm still having a version of the issue just not with the lines?
I'm headed back to the repair shop today. That should be fun.
I've read the 6S / 6S+ addressed the frame/bend issue. Is that so?
Quote from: mbw on August 24, 2016, 10:58:08 AM
Quote"I took [my phone] to the 'Geniuses' at Apple Store in Westfield Valley Fair mall (Santa Clara, CA)," one iPhone 6 Plus owner wrote on Apple's support forum. "After a very long wait (~2 hrs) I finally met with a rep. He acknowledged the problem (he was very familiar with it), but said Apple doesn't recognize it as an issue, and so there is not much he can do." Another iPhone 6 Plus owner was apparently told by an Apple employee that people come in with this issue "several times per day." "After talking to a tech, I got exactly what I expected 'You're out of warranty and you're [sic] only option is to buy a new phone," the user wrote.
At least Apple stands behind their products.
It's getting to where the number of Apple products I've owned that have had problems is catching up with the number that haven't. Mostly, nowadays my loyalty is mainly to the OSes, and even there they manage to do things with each new release, it seems, to piss me off.
Quote from: VDB on August 24, 2016, 11:37:02 AM
Quote from: ph92 on August 24, 2016, 10:49:32 AM
Quote from: VDB on August 24, 2016, 10:29:13 AM
Get a load of this article -- how timely. Seems I'm far from the only one having touch problems with a 6-plus, and this would explain why replacing the screen didn't solve the problem.
http://ifixit.org/blog/8309/iphone-6-plus-gray-flicker-touch-death/
Oh you didn't mention the grey lines. That is the kiss of death. Means board damage every time. Whenever we get someone in with that we just instruct them to replace the phone.
IMO, the 6 series is kinda trash. We see people in all the time with bent frames, board damage is rampant. The touchID is a fiasco. The fact that the LCD gets damaged so easily. I could go on. They're good for people who take care of their phones. But otherwise these things are so damn fragile!
I don't personally have the gray lines but I get bad flareups of the unresponsive touch/ghost touch issue. I have sometimes found that bending or squeezing the phone temporarily helps, so I suspect maybe I'm still having a version of the issue just not with the lines?
I'm headed back to the repair shop today. That should be fun.
I've read the 6S / 6S+ addressed the frame/bend issue. Is that so?
Could be, but honestly the reason it bends is because they use thin aluminum. I haven't personally measured the thickness, but as far as internals it's the exact same.
To answer your other question, yes that is possible board damage. The lines only come in extreme cases, otherwise we have seen this as a common issue. Usually it comes with a drop, its the solder points in the chip controlling the touch functionality might separate causing ghost touching and or no touch. Like that article says its a motherboard issue. There's not much you can do besides replace the phone. Unless you want to try your hand at a re-flow (don't do that if its covered under insurance). You'll most likely burn things on the board.
The squeezing makes me wonder though, could be a loose digitizer flex or, again, crappy part with a bad digitizer flex.
No problems with my workphone (iphone6) here and my personal 5s is still humming along like a champ but I am itching for the rumored 7 announcement...
I need more storage.
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 24, 2016, 01:04:26 PM
No problems with my workphone (iphone6) here and my personal 5s is still humming along like a champ but I am itching for the rumored 7 announcement...
I need more storage.
Last thing I heard is they're just going to call it the 6SE, and have multiple versions (such as the "pro" with 2 cameras). It's supposed to have the same form factor as the 6/6S but have faster internals, just like the 5S vs the 5SE.
Waiting to see if they use the same screens as the 6S, that would make life easy here at the shop!
Quote from: ph92 on August 24, 2016, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 24, 2016, 01:04:26 PM
No problems with my workphone (iphone6) here and my personal 5s is still humming along like a champ but I am itching for the rumored 7 announcement...
I need more storage.
Last thing I heard is they're just going to call it the 6SE, and have multiple versions (such as the "pro" with 2 cameras). It's supposed to have the same form factor as the 6/6S but have faster internals, just like the 5S vs the 5SE.
Waiting to see if they use the same screens as the 6S, that would make life easy here at the shop!
Does not jive with the latest rumors I've read. Pro version is out (maybe, maybe not).
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 24, 2016, 01:28:39 PM
Quote from: ph92 on August 24, 2016, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 24, 2016, 01:04:26 PM
No problems with my workphone (iphone6) here and my personal 5s is still humming along like a champ but I am itching for the rumored 7 announcement...
I need more storage.
Last thing I heard is they're just going to call it the 6SE, and have multiple versions (such as the "pro" with 2 cameras). It's supposed to have the same form factor as the 6/6S but have faster internals, just like the 5S vs the 5SE.
Waiting to see if they use the same screens as the 6S, that would make life easy here at the shop!
Does not jive with the latest rumors I've read. Pro version is out (maybe, maybe not).
I also personally haven't read anything, this is all word from my co-workers.
Or maybe I have it backwards, and the 6SE will just be it's own thing? Apparently the 7 should be coming out next year, and the 6SE and 6SE+ are still supposidly what's coming out this year. But again idk. I like android haha
I'mma flip my shit if they ditch the headphone jack as has been heavily rumored. Or maybe I won't care because I may have given up on iPhones by then.
Now, in recent good news, today I managed to get the repair shop to refund the $200 I spent on a replacement screen I didn't need. Bad news is I still have a piece of crap phone.
I still don't know why people are so fired up about the headphone jack going away.
With lightning, you'll get a digital connection. Buy a DAC to keep using your old analog headphone that you love or go with something new.
This is the future, bitches.
Live in it.
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 24, 2016, 03:10:12 PM
I still don't know why people are so fired up about the headphone jack going away.
With lightning, you'll get a digital connection. Buy a DAC to keep using your old analog headphone that you love or go with something new.
This is the future, bitches.
Live in it.
You get it. I get it. But the average person doesn't. They view it as Apple changing something arbitrarily so they can make more money on new accessories.
There was a lot of backlash when they changed the charging port too, IIRC.
Quote from: antelope19 on August 24, 2016, 03:22:41 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 24, 2016, 03:10:12 PM
I still don't know why people are so fired up about the headphone jack going away.
With lightning, you'll get a digital connection. Buy a DAC to keep using your old analog headphone that you love or go with something new.
This is the future, bitches.
Live in it.
You get it. I get it. But the average person doesn't. They view it as Apple changing something arbitrarily so they can make more money on new accessories.
There was a lot of backlash when they changed the charging port too, IIRC.
I just prefer the headphones I own, they are insanely high quality. I don't understand having to carry an extra device just to listen to music. But then again I almost never have the cutting edge shit. I like stuff that's old and unlockable. AKA I love cables. They deliver the highest of quality! (also no charging required!)
What ph said. Like many people, I already own high-quality listening devices that use the 3.5mm headphone jack and work just fine. Why have to buy a cumbersome dongle or adapter just to keep using your perfectly good old stuff? Aside from being annoying generally, there are specific scenarios (e.g. exercising) where the extra bulk just won't fly. And it's not the same as going from the 30-pin connector to Lightning. You can buy those cables on Amazon for $5, and they all plug into the same USB port.
Am I also the only one who routinely plugs an iPod/Phone into a home or car stereo via audio out and also charges it at the same time? How's that supposed to work?
I don't see this as Apple being greedy to just sell accessories. I see it as part arrogance ("we get to decide whether you need a headphone jack or not") and part overemphasis (if I'm understanding the supposed rationale) on making ever-thinner phones. Nevermind that the camera already has to stick out the back and that the quest for thinness may well be part of the touch chip defect that's beset the 6+ and 6 (to bring us back around to that).
On that note, I've been dealing with a lot of breakdowns in functionality with my tech products recently (most of which being Apple products), and so I'm rather disinclined to celebrate an "advancement" that takes something simple and reliable and introduces more opportunities for a protocol to act finicky or hardware to go faulty.
Anyway, Woz agrees with me (http://www.afr.com/technology/mobiles-and-tablets/apple/steve-wozniak-says-apple-must-fix-iphone-7-bluetooth-or-revive-its-headphone-jack-20160821-gqxwsg#ixzz4I6wk11Ub).
I've got an Aumeo device now that is blutooth but connects to my custom in-ear monitors. I love it for travel and it means I don't need the audio jack as much. I'm still annoyed by it going away, though.
I bought the Aumeo from their indie-gogo thing. It took almost a year to ship - six months longer than they anticipated - and now they aren't shipping production yet... hopefully that means they are ironing out some kinks.
Here's the Aumeo:
https://smile.amazon.com/Aumeo-Audio-Tailored-Device-Black/dp/B0196C7QHM/ref=cm_rdp_product (https://smile.amazon.com/Aumeo-Audio-Tailored-Device-Black/dp/B0196C7QHM/ref=cm_rdp_product)
and their website:
http://aumeoaudio.com/ (http://aumeoaudio.com/)
Here's a review I wrote of the Aumeo and its kinks:
QuoteI've been using this for air travel for a couple of months now. I can concur with most of the comments here. Once I got past the annoyances, I love this thing. Assuming reports of the iPhone nixing the headphone jack this fall, I'm really gonna love this thing since I want to continue using my custom-molded in-ear monitors - not some bluetooth crap headphones.
The good:
1. Once I created a profile in the air on a flight it sounds amazing. I can listen at a fairly low volume and still hear every detail I want to hear in the music. I have a different profile for quieter environments. It's really easy to switch between the two in the app.
2. The form factor is perfect for the shirt pocket - I can wrap my headphone cord around it to take up slack. It is sturdy, I don't worry about it breaking when knocking around loose in my backpack. It's really easy to use all around.
3. I love having no cord attached to my iPhone when using it for other things... even just looking at my music apps and picking what to listen to next was always annoying when I used to wrap the extra headphone cords around the phone.
the bad:
1. the Bluetooth range SUCKS. I would love to keep the phone in my pants pocket and Aumeo in my shirt pocket, but I cannot. The range is about 12 inches - 18 inches is too far and will cause severely annoying breaks in sound. Here's hoping the 2.0 version solves this problem.
2. the battery life is not the best. I have to keep a portable charger on hand at all times with this thing. I have to charge both the Aumeo and the portable charger fully before every trip to be on the safe side. It lasted about 5 hours on this last trip. That and it does drain when not in use. Gotta charge it every time.
Overall, there is nothing that competes with this product, so I highly suggest it!! I really do love it... and I think the negatives above are par for the course for an early 1.0 iteration of a new product like this. Given how long I waited between "buying" this from indie-gogo and when it finally shipped, I think this young company has a lot of kinks to work out. Here's hoping they keep pushing on with improvements and new products. They're off to a great start.
Quote from: VDB on August 24, 2016, 06:37:56 PM
What ph said. Like many people, I already own high-quality listening devices that use the 3.5mm headphone jack and work just fine. Why have to buy a cumbersome dongle or adapter just to keep using your perfectly good old stuff? Aside from being annoying generally, there are specific scenarios (e.g. exercising) where the extra bulk just won't fly. And it's not the same as going from the 30-pin connector to Lightning. You can buy those cables on Amazon for $5, and they all plug into the same USB port.
Am I also the only one who routinely plugs an iPod/Phone into a home or car stereo via audio out and also charges it at the same time? How's that supposed to work?
I don't see this as Apple being greedy to just sell accessories. I see it as part arrogance ("we get to decide whether you need a headphone jack or not") and part overemphasis (if I'm understanding the supposed rationale) on making ever-thinner phones. Nevermind that the camera already has to stick out the back and that the quest for thinness may well be part of the touch chip defect that's beset the 6+ and 6 (to bring us back around to that).
On that note, I've been dealing with a lot of breakdowns in functionality with my tech products recently (most of which being Apple products), and so I'm rather disinclined to celebrate an "advancement" that takes something simple and reliable and introduces more opportunities for a protocol to act finicky or hardware to go faulty.
Anyway, Woz agrees with me (http://www.afr.com/technology/mobiles-and-tablets/apple/steve-wozniak-says-apple-must-fix-iphone-7-bluetooth-or-revive-its-headphone-jack-20160821-gqxwsg#ixzz4I6wk11Ub).
It makes me wonder what the fuck happened to the Nokia
battering ram brick phone! I know they can make the shit. I mean I have a Motorola Droid Mini (shitty phone, cause I can't unlock the bootloader) But fuck if the thing ain't a brick. I've had it for 4 years and cracked the screen once, one tiny crack in the corner (literally one) because I dropped it from a ladder about 8ft up. They can make it happen, they just don't want to because of planned obsolescence etc. I mean hell, the 5 series is pretty brick like. And we still see some of the 4 series kicking it and not having too many issues besides screens and batteries, but that's expected with their age.
And I understand cables add clutter. But the "thin cable-less" designs are just infuriating. They are indeed causing the issues with the touch on the 6 series. They make things unreliable, easy to break, and expensive. And shit, if it's hard to work on, that means its more expensive to work on. And I'm not saying the droid phones are excluded. The Galaxy S6 and up are a huge pain in the ass. But all this proprietary accessories, and hardware is so annoying. I really don't want to have to use some bluetooth adapter to use my headphones. It's just another thing to carry, another thing to charge, and lastly, another thing to break.
IMHO there are some things that really just shouldn't be changed. When it comes to charging, there's always gonna be a cable, who wants to carry around a "wireless" charge pad/dock. And I want my audio to have cables for superior quality. It reminds me of the whole analog stereo vs digital surround. Nothing beats a high quality 2 channel all analog setup, surround sound is cool for movies and gimmicky recordings. But as far as quality go, analog is what I will always want. And I believe this to be true for my headphones.
/rant
I realize I'm jaded, and I know I'm only 24, but I just cannot stand the sacrifice of quality for cosmetic design and "cutting edge".
Quote from: VDB on August 24, 2016, 06:37:56 PM
I don't see this as Apple being greedy to just sell accessories.
Of course it is. The Stockholm Syndrome is strong with you guys.
Quote from: mbw on August 24, 2016, 09:44:29 PM
Quote from: VDB on August 24, 2016, 06:37:56 PM
I don't see this as Apple being greedy to just sell accessories.
Of course it is. The Stockholm Syndrome is strong with you guys.
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
But then again, Samsung is doing the same thing with the S7's
Quote from: mbw on August 24, 2016, 09:44:29 PM
Quote from: VDB on August 24, 2016, 06:37:56 PM
I don't see this as Apple being greedy to just sell accessories.
Of course it is. The Stockholm Syndrome is strong with you guys.
Do you really think Apple would kill the headphone jack just so they could get the incremental revenue from selling a few Lightning-to-3.5mm dongles? Come on. That'd be a drop in the bucket for them.
Trust me, I have plenty of reasons to dislike Apple right now. But that theory isn't one of them.
Quote from: VDB on August 24, 2016, 10:39:41 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 24, 2016, 09:44:29 PM
Quote from: VDB on August 24, 2016, 06:37:56 PM
I don't see this as Apple being greedy to just sell accessories.
Of course it is. The Stockholm Syndrome is strong with you guys.
Do you really think Apple would kill the headphone jack just so they could get the incremental revenue from selling a few Lightning-to-3.5mm dongles? Come on. That'd be a drop in the bucket for them.
Trust me, I have plenty of reasons to dislike Apple right now. But that theory isn't one of them.
No, not adapters. I'm fairly certain they just bought a headphone company for 3 billion dollars though, which i'm fairly certain will have lightning native headphones on the shelf the same day.
Also if you think the question, "Do we really need the money?" has ever been uttered at an apple board meeting well..."Lets just install suicide prevention nets" actually was.
Appears we were talking about different kinds of products, but I'm glad we can at least unite around the idea that Apple is greedier and more evil than many people seem to suspect. (And I say this as a very minority shareholder who wishes he held a whole lot more.)
Quote from: VDB on August 25, 2016, 11:40:44 AM
Appears we were talking about different kinds of products, but I'm glad we can at least unite around the idea that Apple is greedier and more evil than many people seem to suspect. (And I say this as a very minority shareholder who wishes he held a whole lot more.)
MAKING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF THE BARE BACKS OF MALAYSIAN SWEATSHOP WORKERS!
I've always despised Apple. They took something free and amazing and put a pricetag on it, and that thing was UNIX/BSD (now linux is based on it). Its messed up because of what that whole community is based off of, it was the staple and message of freely developed and shared software.
I do understand they do have merits for those who are not savvy though. I do give them that. And their products do look nice. I just wish everything wasn't so proprietary so I could get a Macbook air and put linux on it :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
(http://i.imgur.com/HX3yLdX.jpg)
Quote from: PGLHAH on August 25, 2016, 01:47:07 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/HX3yLdX.jpg)
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard Yes! That's so perfect.
Quote from: ph92 on August 25, 2016, 12:19:18 PM
I've always despised Apple. They took something free and amazing and put a pricetag on it, and that thing was UNIX/BSD (now linux is based on it). Its messed up because of what that whole community is based off of, it was the staple and message of freely developed and shared software.
Android is also based on UNIX tho.
Quote from: VDB on August 25, 2016, 03:28:12 PM
Quote from: ph92 on August 25, 2016, 12:19:18 PM
I've always despised Apple. They took something free and amazing and put a pricetag on it, and that thing was UNIX/BSD (now linux is based on it). Its messed up because of what that whole community is based off of, it was the staple and message of freely developed and shared software.
Android is also based on UNIX tho.
Yeah, but it doesn't cost money. You can download stock OS's without having to purchase a phone or the key. Also you can develop freely and easily at your own will.
You can download Mac OS for free and build a hackintosh if you like.
New iPhone announcement expected next week (http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/iphone-7-launch-date-confirmed-8730183).
Can't come soon enough as I struggle to get by with my half-functional 6+. Depending on the feature set of the newest one, I am looking forward to possibly getting a 6S+ at its new, reduced price.
Quote from: mbw on August 25, 2016, 08:07:38 AM
Quote from: VDB on August 24, 2016, 10:39:41 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 24, 2016, 09:44:29 PM
Quote from: VDB on August 24, 2016, 06:37:56 PM
I don't see this as Apple being greedy to just sell accessories.
Of course it is. The Stockholm Syndrome is strong with you guys.
Do you really think Apple would kill the headphone jack just so they could get the incremental revenue from selling a few Lightning-to-3.5mm dongles? Come on. That'd be a drop in the bucket for them.
Trust me, I have plenty of reasons to dislike Apple right now. But that theory isn't one of them.
No, not adapters. I'm fairly certain they just bought a headphone company for 3 billion dollars though, which i'm fairly certain will have lightning native headphones on the shelf the same day.
Also if you think the question, "Do we really need the money?" has ever been uttered at an apple board meeting well..."Lets just install suicide prevention nets" actually was.
I should have been more clear, but this is was I was referring to, not the adapters you were talking about
I don't own a iPhone, have always gravitated towards Android, but I follow all phone tech news. The thing that bothers me about companies getting away from the headphone jack is how will you charge and listen to music, do we now need to carry around a charging pad for wireless charging? Seems inconvenient.
Quote from: Multibeast12 on September 02, 2016, 07:19:11 AM
I don't own a iPhone, have always gravitated towards Android, but I follow all phone tech news. The thing that bothers me about companies getting away from the headphone jack is how will you charge and listen to music, do we now need to carry around a charging pad for wireless charging? Seems inconvenient.
No they're keeping the lightning jack (apple proprietary charge port) but doing away with the headphone jack... I think it's dumb. Cause even if they have an adapter. How will you charge your phone and listen if you don't have wireless?
People want lighter, thinner and more powerful phones. Eliminating the headphone jack is one way to do that.
Quote from: VDB on August 25, 2016, 03:48:37 PM
You can download Mac OS for free and build a hackintosh if you like.
Is that legal though? Officially I mean. Cause sure I can get Windows for free and modify it. But I'm not supposed to be able to. People have just found out how to. And it's illegal.
Quote from: mattstick on September 02, 2016, 07:44:05 AM
People want lighter, thinner and more powerful phones. Eliminating the headphone jack is one way to do that.
I that is true. And honestly, it'll be good for my work. Cause also, changing dock flexes, which has the headphone jack, is annoying. Specifically the part of the flex with the jack is a pain to line up proper. It's just time consuming.
Quote from: ph92 on September 02, 2016, 07:47:14 AM
Quote from: mattstick on September 02, 2016, 07:44:05 AM
People want lighter, thinner and more powerful phones. Eliminating the headphone jack is one way to do that.
I that is true. And honestly, it'll be good for my work. Cause also, changing dock flexes, which has the headphone jack, is annoying. Specifically the part of the flex with the jack is a pain to line up proper. It's just time consuming.
Outside of a repair stand point, I have replaced many screens on my phones, but I feel as though the headphone jack doesn't add that much thickness to the body. Are people basically looking for a index card sized phone?
Also just a general phone request, just make a battery that will last easily 2-3 days. I get through a day easily on my phone, but still would like to have a phone last super long so I never have to worry about a charge.
Quote from: Multibeast12 on September 02, 2016, 07:52:58 AM
Quote from: ph92 on September 02, 2016, 07:47:14 AM
Quote from: mattstick on September 02, 2016, 07:44:05 AM
People want lighter, thinner and more powerful phones. Eliminating the headphone jack is one way to do that.
I that is true. And honestly, it'll be good for my work. Cause also, changing dock flexes, which has the headphone jack, is annoying. Specifically the part of the flex with the jack is a pain to line up proper. It's just time consuming.
Outside of a repair stand point, I have replaced many screens on my phones, but I feel as though the headphone jack doesn't add that much thickness to the body. Are people basically looking for a index card sized phone?
Also just a general phone request, just make a battery that will last easily 2-3 days. I get through a day easily on my phone, but still would like to have a phone last super long so I never have to worry about a charge.
Here's the thing with wafer thin phones. The headphone jack is as thick as a charge port. They can maybe skimp 3-5 mm off the housing. A good camera is thicker than both. Probably about one and a half the size of a headphone jack or charge port. The insane quality cameras on nexus phones are even bigger than the 6 cameras by a solid degree. The logic board is just a slight bit thinner than the camera. If you make it any thinner you'll probably run into serious issues like the 6. And if they kept 3D touch those LCD's are like double the size of a regular LCD. The front camera/ear speaker assembly is as thick as the rear camera, and that shit already sticks out the back.
Seems to me , without some radical new design and breakthrough in terms of high quality cameras and logic board design, taking out the headphone jack doesn't make a device thinner. It just makes them have proprietary accessories.
Now take out the the charge port, cameras and ear speakers, and we can talk about thinner and more powerful!
WHOOPS
http://gizmodo.com/amazon-just-blew-the-lid-on-the-iphone-7-1786326033
It's official: jack off
(https://syllabus.vox-cdn.com/uploads/photo/image/24198/apple-iphone-watch-20160907-5180.JPG)
Apple VP of marketing Phil Schiller on removing the 3.5mm jack: "It comes down to courage—courage to move on, do something new that betters all of us."
Jesus Christ, get over yourselves.
Quote from: VDB on September 07, 2016, 03:03:36 PM
Apple VP of marketing Phil Schiller on removing the 3.5mm jack: "It comes down to courage—courage to move on, do something new that betters all of us."
Jesus Christ, get over yourselves.
I'm not philosophically opposed to the lightning headphones, but I fail to see how anyone's life is bettered by wearing these ridiculous looking things:
(https://syllabus.vox-cdn.com/uploads/photo/image/24210/apple-iphone-watch-20160907-5281.JPG)
Quote from: VDB on September 07, 2016, 03:03:36 PM
Apple VP of marketing Phil Schiller on removing the 3.5mm jack: "It comes down to courage—courage to move on, do something new that betters all of us."
Jesus Christ, get over yourselves.
My boss was fucking with me. After watching the tech talk he asked me: "What does Apple have, Will?" I said some hate, what hate is not important. He just didn't respond to that and said "courage"
SO PRETENTIOUS! Ha, but hey, we gonna make some money!
People need to chill out.
Marketing lines aside, the jack takes space. It's old tech and it's not gonna be in the phone.
Guess what?
You will survive.
I'm not thrilled with losing the headphone jack, but supposedly this comes with an adaptor.
due for an upgrade, intrigued about the better camera and waterproof feature
Likely upgrade
The fact is everyone has different priorities when it comes to their smartphone usage, and so losing the 3.5 will be important to some and not important to others.
Dual cameras?!? The future is now!
Quote from: mbw on September 07, 2016, 03:41:54 PM
Dual cameras?!? The future is now!
Was waiting for that one.
The big news: Mario on iPhone!
:tte:
Quote from: VDB on September 07, 2016, 03:31:09 PM
The fact is everyone has different priorities when it comes to their smartphone usage, and so losing the 3.5 will be important to some and not important to others.
Is there reason to believe that using the adaptor with a wired headphone will have inferior sound compared to the headphone jack?
Quote from: slslbs on September 07, 2016, 04:02:46 PM
Quote from: VDB on September 07, 2016, 03:31:09 PM
The fact is everyone has different priorities when it comes to their smartphone usage, and so losing the 3.5 will be important to some and not important to others.
Is there reason to believe that using the adaptor with a wired headphone will have inferior sound compared to the headphone jack?
should not have any noticeable effects. I predict more wired and wireless DAC devices coming to market for making traditionally connected headphones sound better.
It's not as if millions of people haven't already ditched the headphone jack for Bluetooth...
I also don't suppose it matters that Motorola's android phone the MotoZ ditched the headphone jack months ago, does it?
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 07, 2016, 04:46:49 PM
It's not as if millions of people haven't already ditched the headphone jack for Bluetooth...
I also don't suppose it matters that Motorola's android phone the MotoZ ditched the headphone jack months ago, does it?
Yeah, that phone was kind of just laughed at in the Android community for that.
Also, the 7 looks nice, that Jet Black is a nice color. I would consider getting an iPhone is the price was more affordable for a off contract one. But a interesting thing, is that they are making two variants of the phone. A CMDA one and a GSM one, for carrier reasons, so basically Verizon can call one the Verizon iPhone. Apple did it right with the 6 and 6s when they made one version to work on all carriers. That is the way it should be. So people can shop around and determine what carrier may work for them. Say they sign up at Verizon, don't like it they can keep the same phone and just switch to another carrier with no problem. That's why I would like it to be a little cheaper but also, hard to get cheaper and have that good of a chip and camera.
Lulz
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cr3C_nDWAAAH44a.jpg)
The reason for the 2 variants apparently has to do with the GSM models using an Intel modem, while the CDMA ones have Qualcomm (Intel bought some CDMA modem company recently and probably will integrate it by next year, so this is kind of an anomaly year, apparently). Frankly, CDMA should have been killed with fire 20 years ago, and the fact that it is still kicking shows just how stubborn and stupid Verizon is. Thankfully, I will be sticking with AT&T, and having GSM is all I care about because I like to pop in local chips when traveling, and CDMA is only a factor in the US and Japan. THE BUMS LOST!
As for the headphone jack, kind of pisses me off because I like my high-end headphones, but the dongle isn't the end of the world. Not being able to charge the phone AND listen at the same time is not cool either... and yes, I know there are more dongles for that, or I can buy the dock. Whatever.
My alarm is set for 2:50am - Jet Black, here I come...
Quote from: tet on September 08, 2016, 10:34:37 PM
As for the headphone jack, kind of pisses me off because I like my high-end headphones, but the dongle isn't the end of the world. Not being able to charge the phone AND listen at the same time is not cool either... and yes, I know there are more dongles for that, or I can buy the dock. Whatever.
You'll buy more dongles and you'll like it.
will the adaptor that comes with the phone be adequate or do you need to by a DAC?
Quote from: slslbs on September 08, 2016, 11:58:03 PM
will the adaptor that comes with the phone be adequate or do you need to by a DAC?
I'm sure it'll be fine... there will have to be a DAC built into the dongle as the phone's Lightning port has no DAC itself.
So after 10 minutes of reloading the page starting at 3am, I finally ordered and will have my Jet Black by early October... ugh!!!
1 black, 1 rose gold delivered 9/16
email time stamp 3:15am.
Quote from: tet on September 09, 2016, 07:07:07 AM
Quote from: slslbs on September 08, 2016, 11:58:03 PM
will the adaptor that comes with the phone be adequate or do you need to by a DAC?
I'm sure it'll be fine... there will have to be a DAC built into the dongle as the phone's Lightning port has no DAC itself.
So after 10 minutes of reloading the page starting at 3am, I finally ordered and will have my Jet Black by early October... ugh!!!
You Don't think it does? Or have they said that. They probably rewired it to just go to the pins on the dock. I used to do a similar mod on ipod videos, it would bypass the internal amp (because it sounds like shit and the DAC on the 5th gen iPods was awesome!) and go HDD>DAC>Line out dock (custom 30pin>3.5mm cable ) >portable amp>phones. But that lineage was only like that because it wasn't built for that and I modified it. I could only assume that they have a special lineage for the lightning Jack that includes a DAC and headphone amplifier that goes to the dock for those who are using the adapter.
I'm torn
I like the idea of the 2 lenses on the plus but a little concerned it may be too big. I'm used to working my phone with 1 hand, probably can't do that with the plus. Do I have to do that? I guess not.
You can get by a little on the plus one-handed, especially with the double-tap of the home button to slide the screen down, but by and large it's a two-handed device. The size can be cumbersome, but the huge screen real estate really will spoil you.
Anyone get the iOS 10?
Nifty fonts and margins
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on September 13, 2016, 07:33:31 PM
Anyone get the iOS 10?
Nifty fonts and margins
Been fooling with it on all of my devices.
So far so good, I think.
The download on my iPad has been sitting at 41 minutes for a while now.
Think I'll wait for the phone.
iOS 10 rocking on my iPhone 6
Hope this hasn't happened to anyone here: iOS 10 bricking some phones (https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/13/ios-10-update-bricked-my-iphone/)
In addition to just plain being obnoxious, iOS's persistent update notifications also invite the very real possibility that someone could step from a stable release into a setback or a bug trap like this.
I know a guy whose fairly new ipad was bricked.
My 5s, 6, and ipad air work just fine.
This, however, is a Beta, and bricks happen. Make sure you have a good backup archived before you make the jump.
I'm good over here (iPhone 6s, iPad air 2).
I'm still playing around with the new features, but I dig it so far.
I dig the Bedtime app, but I haven't figured it out... does it sync with your other iCloud devices to know whether you're using them when you're supposed to be sleeping?
My watched prompted me to Breathe today, it was kinda nice.
Ios10 can't tell me when to go to bed. It's not my real dad.
Clicking refresh on this page like I'm waiting on a CCard hold for Phish shows!
(http://i.imgur.com/B4ERlFT.png)
Last pic I take from the old iPhone 6??
(http://i.imgur.com/RhgYJ4v.jpg)
I honestly can't hate. The 7 is pretty fucking nice. I'm glad they decided to ship with the dongle. But my co-worker got his last night, thing is pretty awesome! That camera is crazy!
And we already have been watching teardowns of them, look pretty easy, similar to a 6, but they open to the side instead of up at the top which is interesting. Nothing particularly interesting about the insides, seems like the same old guts layout. The dock is obviously a bit different without the headphone jack, they made some more room for a bigger battery there. But everything is more or less laid out the same which is good news for us. I honestly can't wait to get my hands on one to take apart. I always love working on new devices! Some of my favorites so far are the Note 5, S6 Edge (although doing that screen can become a pain in the ass) and the S7.
Is the camera really that much super duper better? I mean, it's still a phone camera, yeah? That's the only thing that'd have me consider this model as opposed to stepping up one degree to the less expensive and still 3.5-jack-having 6S(+).
Quote from: VDB on September 18, 2016, 12:35:40 PM
Is the camera really that much super duper better? I mean, it's still a phone camera, yeah? That's the only thing that'd have me consider this model as opposed to stepping up one degree to the less expensive and still 3.5-jack-having 6S(+).
the f/1.8 is a game-changer, as it's going to allow for some great low-light photos! maybe some other phones have done that, but it's the lowest on an iPhone, and with their quality glass and sensors (more important than megapixels), i think this is going to be one of the biggest, unheralded features of the 7.
FYI for those curious about the DAC (on which I was correct - it is part of the adapter, NOT built into the phone): https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/53myzt/vietnamese_teardown_shows_dac_inside_lightning_to/
Quote from: tet on September 20, 2016, 10:44:49 AM
FYI for those curious about the DAC (on which I was correct - it is part of the adapter, NOT built into the phone): https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/53myzt/vietnamese_teardown_shows_dac_inside_lightning_to/
Ahh interesting.
setting my new iphone 7 for work now.
Was comparing the size of the 7 vs the 6 and 6s today at work... it's not even thinner...
So why was the headphone jack taken out again? Although I will say, it looks pretty sleek, also I like the new home button. The way the whole screen clicks is pretty rad, and judging by the teardown, easier to work on than the 5s and up home buttons.
I'm excited to work on one!
Apple's reasons for taking out the headphone jack have been reportedly to help with water resistence and make room for the stereo speakers among others
Quote from: ph92 on September 23, 2016, 05:51:41 PM
Was comparing the size of the 7 vs the 6 and 6s today at work... it's not even thinner...
So why was the headphone jack taken out again?
Quote from: VDB on September 07, 2016, 03:03:36 PM
Apple VP of marketing Phil Schiller on removing the 3.5mm jack: "It comes down to courage—courage to move on, do something new that betters all of us."
Courage to tell millions of consumers to go fuck themselves.
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/E3B91041-D66F-4084-8814-0C6749BEA94B_zps1ozbqllg.jpeg)
You can really feel it in the bottom end.
1st post from my new 7 +
Quote from: slslbs on September 28, 2016, 06:47:13 PM
1st post from my new 7 +
Woah. That post looks awesome!
quality shitpost! :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
in other news, got my Jet Black 7+ over the weekend, and it's truly beautiful. never seen anything quite like this, and the build quality is just fantastic. not using a case as it's too nice to cover up, but yes it does get coated in fingerprints pretty easily (they also wipe off easily!). speed is great, the 3D Touch stuff is fun, and the camera is really really good. overall, very happy so far...
All of the dudes who mock Apple users for their fanboyism better step up and speak to this bullshit, right here.
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 04, 2016, 06:46:53 AM
All of the dudes who mock Apple users for their fanboyism better step up and speak to this bullshit, right here.
I will admit I am Google fan boy and excited about the Pixel phone. Mainly for all the sick Google Magic lol.
That might be the worst description of a phone. Just like, oh yeah it has uh, Google Magic, and Productivity. I feel like with that they are just trying to sell to people who have never touched technology before.
It's as if Google is doing the thing Apple haters hyperbolically accuse iPhone fans of responding to:
"Slap that Apple logo on a a lump of shit and call it iTurd and people will ine up!"
not sure that google is responsible for that copy. :roll:
eta: you would totally buy iTurd.
Quote from: mbw on October 04, 2016, 10:18:07 AM
not sure that google is responsible for that copy. :roll:
eta: you would totally buy iTurd.
iTurd is cool, but this generation does not come with flies.
yeah, also I have no hate towards apple. They do there thing and make the best devices on the market. Build quality there is not a phone that comes close to the iPhone.
yeah, so.... that wasn't real.
Ahem...
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Quote from: mbw on November 02, 2016, 08:23:54 PM
Ahem...
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:hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
What say you apple fans! Speak for this outrage (and funny turning of tables)
Probably requires a trip to the apple store but the wife's iPhone which has twice the memory of the old phone is constantly "full".
Apps: 1.5 Gb
Docs & Data: 1.30 Gb
Photos: 528 Mb
Other: 22.28 Gb
I have no idea what this "other" data is but it's rather a pain in the ass. Can't even take a picture. We've tried deleting and re-installing Mail, Facebook and some others, which may free up a little bit of space but it fills up in no time.
Sync phone to iTunes.
Restore to factory settings.
Restore from backup.
Quote from: mattstick on December 01, 2016, 08:35:23 PM
Sync phone to iTunes.
Restore to factory settings.
Restore from backup.
Try this. Is it a 5c? If so that's a super common issue. It could be your storage chip going bad.
Quote from: ph92 on December 01, 2016, 10:02:58 PM
Quote from: mattstick on December 01, 2016, 08:35:23 PM
Sync phone to iTunes.
Restore to factory settings.
Restore from backup.
Try this. Is it a 5c? If so that's a super common issue. It could be your storage chip going bad.
iPhone 7, about 3 months old. I'll try the iTunes thing tonight I suppose.
You can see a more specific breakdown in Settings > General > Storage & iCloud Usage > Manage Storage
It could just be Apple insisting on filling up your phone with iOS update downloads you didn't ask for (kidding). Don't get me started on that shit.
Quote from: VDB on December 02, 2016, 10:37:20 AM
You can see a more specific breakdown in Settings > General > Storage & iCloud Usage > Manage Storage
It could just be Apple insisting on filling up your phone with iOS update downloads you didn't ask for (kidding). Don't get me started on that shit.
Yes, when I look in there there are about 25 or so apps/data sources listed, but they're all under 1Gb each and only add up to 2 or 3 Gb.
I'd bet that it's iOS updates. The restore trick should do it.
Doing the sync did the trick. I didn't even have to restore it to the factory settings. Thanks for the tip! When the wife is happy, the whole house is happy.
since upgrading from 5S to 7+, my data use has skyrocketted, although I'm not using the phone any differently. I have wifi at home and work.
Anyone else notice this?
Quote from: slslbs on March 08, 2017, 08:59:27 AM
since upgrading from 5S to 7+, my data use has skyrocketted, although I'm not using the phone any differently. I have wifi at home and work.
Anyone else notice this?
I think there's just a whole lot more background processes etc going. Did you hit those options when you setup your device such as "Share app usage with developers" , "send bug reports to apple" or anything like that? those can eat up some bandwith on a buggy new system.
The only other option, its the NSA is watching you more closely.
Make sure you review which apps have access to your Cellular data. I Periodically go in to that list (Settings | Cellular) and disable nearly everything that I'm not certain I will want to have data access.
Then, when I run into one that I need, it's easy to turn it back on.
Also make sure the wifi assist is turned off in the settings, that will use your cell data to get a better signal even with wifi on.
thanks
I did have wifi assist off.
I just went through and disabled many apps access to cell data.
Has anyone had issues with their texts just disappearing? Not only that, but my contacts disappeared shortly thereafter, followed by my music.
That was the second time it happened, too.
Luckily, I had it all backed up, but damn.
Is it an iCloud issue? I thought it was weird my music went, and that they all went one at a time. The only music that was left on it was what I had added the night before.
And after that happened, my apple watch disconnected from my phone, and I couldn't connect back. I had to restore my watch.
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 08, 2017, 05:54:45 PM
Has anyone had issues with their texts just disappearing? Not only that, but my contacts disappeared shortly thereafter, followed by my music.
That was the second time it happened, too.
Luckily, I had it all backed up, but damn.
Is it an iCloud issue? I thought it was weird my music went, and that they all went one at a time. The only music that was left on it was what I had added the night before.
What kind of iPhone?
Quote from: ph92 on March 08, 2017, 06:37:59 PM
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 08, 2017, 05:54:45 PM
Has anyone had issues with their texts just disappearing? Not only that, but my contacts disappeared shortly thereafter, followed by my music.
That was the second time it happened, too.
Luckily, I had it all backed up, but damn.
Is it an iCloud issue? I thought it was weird my music went, and that they all went one at a time. The only music that was left on it was what I had added the night before.
What kind of iPhone?
6S+
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 09, 2017, 10:51:31 AM
Quote from: ph92 on March 08, 2017, 06:37:59 PM
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 08, 2017, 05:54:45 PM
Has anyone had issues with their texts just disappearing? Not only that, but my contacts disappeared shortly thereafter, followed by my music.
That was the second time it happened, too.
Luckily, I had it all backed up, but damn.
Is it an iCloud issue? I thought it was weird my music went, and that they all went one at a time. The only music that was left on it was what I had added the night before.
What kind of iPhone?
6S+
Are you fully upgraded? Cause that is kinda strange. On a older phone I might point to chip failure... But that doesn't seem likely on that phone.
Do you plug into iTunes to upload music?
never heard of such a problem. definitely restore from a recent backup. could be some kind of corruption and/or failure...
Quote from: ph92 on March 09, 2017, 11:22:21 AM
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 09, 2017, 10:51:31 AM
Quote from: ph92 on March 08, 2017, 06:37:59 PM
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 08, 2017, 05:54:45 PM
Has anyone had issues with their texts just disappearing? Not only that, but my contacts disappeared shortly thereafter, followed by my music.
That was the second time it happened, too.
Luckily, I had it all backed up, but damn.
Is it an iCloud issue? I thought it was weird my music went, and that they all went one at a time. The only music that was left on it was what I had added the night before.
What kind of iPhone?
6S+
Are you fully upgraded? Cause that is kinda strange. On a older phone I might point to chip failure... But that doesn't seem likely on that phone.
Do you plug into iTunes to upload music?
Yeah man, everything is upgraded/up to date.
And yes, I plug into iTunes to upload music.
I have mp3 and ALAC files on my phone, but I wouldn't think that would cause any problems, especially my texts and contacts vanishing...
It's just super weird, and nobody seems to have any idea why it would happen.
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 09, 2017, 12:29:32 PM
Quote from: ph92 on March 09, 2017, 11:22:21 AM
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 09, 2017, 10:51:31 AM
Quote from: ph92 on March 08, 2017, 06:37:59 PM
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 08, 2017, 05:54:45 PM
Has anyone had issues with their texts just disappearing? Not only that, but my contacts disappeared shortly thereafter, followed by my music.
That was the second time it happened, too.
Luckily, I had it all backed up, but damn.
Is it an iCloud issue? I thought it was weird my music went, and that they all went one at a time. The only music that was left on it was what I had added the night before.
What kind of iPhone?
6S+
Are you fully upgraded? Cause that is kinda strange. On a older phone I might point to chip failure... But that doesn't seem likely on that phone.
Do you plug into iTunes to upload music?
Yeah man, everything is upgraded/up to date.
And yes, I plug into iTunes to upload music.
I have mp3 and ALAC files on my phone, but I wouldn't think that would cause any problems, especially my texts and contacts vanishing...
It's just super weird, and nobody seems to have any idea why it would happen.
Yeah I mean I just wonder if syncing your phone is causing random issues? But if you "manually manage" it rules out that option. Maybe make an iTunes backup, factory reset then restore the backup.
Yeah, I manually manage everything. My library is like 4TB, lol.
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 09, 2017, 11:28:41 PM
Yeah, I manually manage everything. My library is like 4TB, lol.
Haha yeah I kinda figured.
Like I said. Back everything up. Factory reset then restore. Also if you're gonna do that I usually tell my customers to use iCloud in this situation instead of iTunes. Because an iTunes backup is practically just an image of your iPhone in its current state. Whereas iCloud just restores personal data, which is better cause you're not running the risk of having the same issues due to settings or something (far fetched)
Honestly sounds like it could be a system breaking bug or some kind of corrupted data having to do with your OS files. Which is hard to believe on an iPhone. But I've seen stranger things on these phones
So basically. Do an iCloud backup. Reset your phone. And restore your data. Hopefully that helps.
I'll ask around in my company and call our corporate troubleshooting line to see if they've encountered the issue.
Awesome, thanks for all the help Will. :beers:
Anybody have VM issues? When I select one, it will generally pull down and then I see the transcript, but when I hit play, it bounces back to the main VM screen. I had the same issue on my 6, and thought a new phone would fix it, but I am having the same issue on my 7. Tales me 3-4 times of hitting play until the VM actually goes.
yup, been having that bug since the first beta of iOS 10. not sure why, it sometimes doesn't happen, it sometimes happens constantly...
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 10, 2017, 10:30:12 AM
Awesome, thanks for all the help Will. :beers:
I messaged you on FB. But here it is in case anyone else is having weird software issues. Doing a clean iOS install can usually fix a ton of issues.
QuoteHey so I talked to our corporate help desk. They basically just reaffirmed what I thought. It could be an issue due to the fact that every time you update your device bugs will be "fixed" but if you've never done a clean install on your device, specifically after big updates (like iOS 9>10) you can run into some residual bugs or issues from the older system due to the update not being comprehensive enough.
So basically try a iTunes backup (more comprehensive data backup) and then factory reset the device, then restore your backup.
Because Apple knows what's best for us, they seem to have hidden track times in the Music app in iOS 10. Has anyone figured out how to get these back? I see nothing within the app nor the Music settings in Settings.
Quote from: VDB on March 19, 2017, 01:07:07 PM
Because Apple knows what's best for us, they seem to have hidden track times in the Music app in iOS 10. Has anyone figured out how to get these back? I see nothing within the app nor the Music settings in Settings.
I don't think so. I tried... it drove me crazy too.
There are 2 things about Music on an iPhone that I don't understand.
- There is no ability to rotate it into landscape. At least in the early days, we had Cover Flow view, but now... nothing! This doesn't fit with my lifestyle.
- Why haven't we ever been able to edit the ID3 tag info on an iPhone? It's a full-fledged computing device, not a basic iPod. Other than creating Playlists, we have no ability to adjust what is in our music libraries. Why?? I would love to fix a mistake I happen to catch when looking at my phone, which I might not otherwise ever see in my 80k+ track library on the computer...
The track time thing is annoying too, and I am not sure why that would have been taken away either.
You can see the times for individual tracks when you blow them up, but not from the list
Quote from: slslbs on March 20, 2017, 11:15:18 AM
You can see the times for individual tracks when you blow them up, but not from the list
Yeah, not terribly helpful for browsing around.
Obviously they didn't have Phish fans in mind when they redesigned this music player.
I would pay for some kind of pro user audio app if they want to keep simplifying the Music app.
Also how come "Play Next" doesn't work between the Music and Podcast apps?
Quote from: mattstick on March 20, 2017, 12:53:10 PM
I would pay for some kind of pro user audio app if they want to keep simplifying the Music app.
Also how come "Play Next" doesn't work between the Music and Podcast apps?
as in, you should be able to add a music track to play next after listening to a podcast, or vice-a-versa? never really thought about it, but you're right... in theory, it's all part of the same Library, and you could probably do that in iTunes (haven't checked)
Yeah, like "Play Next" on Cornell Scarlet > Fire in Music app, when Effectively Wild Podcast ends in Podcast app, then play this episode of LOST from the Video app.
Making a queue across the various apps seems reasonable.
Quote from: mattstick on March 20, 2017, 02:50:16 PM
Yeah, like "Play Next" on Cornell Scarlet > Fire in Music app, when Effectively Wild Podcast ends in Podcast app, then play this episode of LOST from the Video app.
Making a queue across the various apps seems reasonable.
That's a good idea.
I visit the Apple feedback page (http://www.apple.com/feedback/) every now and then -- sometimes in the heat of frustration, other times not -- and, while who knows if they actually read those submissions (they claim the do), it can't hurt.
Quote from: VDB on March 20, 2017, 04:20:46 PM
Quote from: mattstick on March 20, 2017, 02:50:16 PM
Yeah, like "Play Next" on Cornell Scarlet > Fire in Music app, when Effectively Wild Podcast ends in Podcast app, then play this episode of LOST from the Video app.
Making a queue across the various apps seems reasonable.
That's a good idea.
I visit the Apple feedback page (http://www.apple.com/feedback/) every now and then -- sometimes in the heat of frustration, other times not -- and, while who knows if they actually read those submissions (they claim the do), it can't hurt.
Apple knows what's best for their customers. Plus they can't take precious resources away from the development of dongles.
Quote from: ph92 on March 20, 2017, 07:49:13 PM
Quote from: VDB on March 20, 2017, 04:20:46 PM
Quote from: mattstick on March 20, 2017, 02:50:16 PM
Yeah, like "Play Next" on Cornell Scarlet > Fire in Music app, when Effectively Wild Podcast ends in Podcast app, then play this episode of LOST from the Video app.
Making a queue across the various apps seems reasonable.
That's a good idea.
I visit the Apple feedback page (http://www.apple.com/feedback/) every now and then -- sometimes in the heat of frustration, other times not -- and, while who knows if they actually read those submissions (they claim the do), it can't hurt.
Apple knows what's best for their customers. Plus they can't take precious resources away from the development of dongles.
Who doesn't love dongles?!!!
Quote from: mattstick on March 20, 2017, 02:50:16 PM
Yeah, like "Play Next" on Cornell Scarlet > Fire in Music app, when Effectively Wild Podcast ends in Podcast app, then play this episode of LOST from the Video app.
Making a queue across the various apps seems reasonable.
Cross app queuing seems like a no-brainer concept though likely a challenge to implement. I'm sure they could do it.
The other UI problems mentioned above are among the reasons I no longer use Apple's music playing app thing.
I have used Vox for a couple years now, I think and it's not perfect but works great. It will access my purchased music as well as the music that I dump directly into it. Podcast integration seems like a no-brainer next step and I'm going to submit it as a feature request. They currently already integrate with soundcloud and youtube (but I never use those features).
No hype for the iPhone X here?
Quote from: antelope19 on September 12, 2017, 10:40:10 PM
No hype for the iPhone X here?
The cut-in area at the top of the screen is dumb af.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 12, 2017, 10:40:10 PM
No hype for the iPhone X here?
Looks decent. Can't say there is anything that makes me want to upgrade from my 7, especially at the price. Camera upgrades and display and processer upgrades are always welcome, but nothing wows me. Seeing a lot of people complaining about lack of physical home button, but imo, who cares as long as it works. And I am already bugged out by fingerprint recognition. Yes, the thumbprint is convenient and I gave into it over my better judgement and use it multiple times a day, but personally, face recognition is going too far for me.
Crosspost from the Mac thread:
Quote from: emay on September 12, 2017, 04:38:06 PM
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Keynote had some good stuff.
New iwatch you can make calls without the phone thats pretty big.
Wasn't too impressed with the iPhone 8 or 8+. They look like the Androids with the now full curved screen. iPhone X looks pretty cool but 1,000 bucks...cant afford that one.
Taking away the home button is interesting, kinda saw that coming.
The personal facial expression emojis is creepy
wireless charging is nice addition. Need that on the magic mouse 2
All I know is these phones are going to be a headache and very expensive to repair. Moving to OLED curved screen you can expect a $400+ screen repair for up to 6-9 months after parts start hitting the market.
Taking away the home button may not even make it possible with how the 7 uses a software button and how that factors into the repair. AKA, a chip necessary for any biometric unlocking may be installed on the screen and only be able to be programmed by Apple by their magic machine.
Basically if you buy one. Get insurance or apple care. It will be worth the investment
Thinking about the iWatch but probably not going to get that either.
Didnt realize the OLED were that much more for screen repair, good to know.
To give you an idea, Samsung only uses OLED
S7 (non edge) $150 part
Edge $240 part
iPhone 7 $30 part
7+ $40 part
S8 screens are comparable in price to the S7 edge.
Watches are super expensive too due to parts availability, the screens for the current iwatch is ~$120 for 38mm or 42mm. Get apple care if you get one!
Quote from: antelope19 on September 12, 2017, 10:40:10 PM
No hype for the iPhone X here?
at 1000 bucks a pop, there's not much to be hype about, ill be lucky if I get to touch one in the store.
Now that I'm on the 2-3 years behind cycle because work pays for my phone, my interest in the latest iPhone technologies is really waning.
Quote from: mattstick on September 13, 2017, 10:22:04 AM
Now that I'm on the 2-3 years behind cycle because work pays for my phone, my interest in the latest iPhone technologies is really waning.
I'll conjecture that many people are in this boat nowadays. We've gone through so many upgrade cycles (and the prices are increasing such that) that we can't get thrilled about all of them. I worry, further, that this introduces a pattern whereby the manufacturer feels an extra need to stimulate excitement via ever-bolder "innovations" that can end up swinging and missing. So you end up with new phones that are, in some important respects, worse than their predecessors, but you might need them to access certain features (hardware or software), or to simply keep from getting stuck with that last compatible version of the OS that grinds your old trusty down to into a useless hunk.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 12, 2017, 10:40:10 PM
No hype for the iPhone X here?
Nope. Lots of talk about ALO vinyl though. A format that the X can't handle.
Quote from: mopper_smurf on September 15, 2017, 09:01:56 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 12, 2017, 10:40:10 PM
No hype for the iPhone X here?
Nope. Lots of talk about ALO vinyl though. A format that the X can't handel.
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Ordered an 8 for myself. This 5s has been good to me but it's time.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 15, 2017, 09:11:44 AM
Ordered an 8 for myself. This 5s has been good to me but it's time.
GET INSURANCE!
But nice, the plus or regular?
I expect a box opening and review video upon receiving your phone.
Quote from: ph92 on September 15, 2017, 10:59:42 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 15, 2017, 09:11:44 AM
Ordered an 8 for myself. This 5s has been good to me but it's time.
GET INSURANCE!
But nice, the plus or regular?
I expect a box opening and review video upon receiving your phone.
Just the regular one.
I will apple care the shit out of it.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 15, 2017, 09:11:44 AM
Ordered an 8 for myself. This 5s has been good to me but it's time.
Just did the same as my 6 as been unable to hold a charge for a while now. Still not happy about the no headphone jack but the wireless charging somewhat offsets that for me.
They can pry the Home button from my cold dead hands.
Quote from: runawayjimbo on September 15, 2017, 12:01:59 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 15, 2017, 09:11:44 AM
Ordered an 8 for myself. This 5s has been good to me but it's time.
Just did the same as my 6 as been unable to hold a charge for a while now. Still not happy about the no headphone jack but the wireless charging somewhat offsets that for me.
They can pry the Home button from my cold dead hands.
This is why I only upgraded recently from 5c > 6s
Rocking the SE. Kind of want to upgrade for bigger screen and better camera, but probably not likely until I need to renew my plan with Verizon.
Quote from: runawayjimbo on September 15, 2017, 12:01:59 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 15, 2017, 09:11:44 AM
Ordered an 8 for myself. This 5s has been good to me but it's time.
Just did the same as my 6 as been unable to hold a charge for a while now. Still not happy about the no headphone jack but the wireless charging somewhat offsets that for me.
They can pry the Home button from my cold dead hands.
The 7 doesn't even really have a button, it's a hole that looks like one, it's just a tactile feedback software "click". This will be the case on the 8, just now there's not a stupid pointless hole in your screen. Which is good. The S8 is the same and I have loved the screen real estate it creates.
Quote from: antelope19 on September 15, 2017, 12:04:49 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on September 15, 2017, 12:01:59 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 15, 2017, 09:11:44 AM
Ordered an 8 for myself. This 5s has been good to me but it's time.
Just did the same as my 6 as been unable to hold a charge for a while now. Still not happy about the no headphone jack but the wireless charging somewhat offsets that for me.
They can pry the Home button from my cold dead hands.
This is why I only upgraded recently from 5c > 6s
I've been using the dongle thing for a while (with my work provided (by myself, the IT guy) iPhone7) and it's fine. I leave it attached to the headphones. It works.
(https://i.imgur.com/dsykKlp.jpg)
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 15, 2017, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on September 15, 2017, 12:04:49 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on September 15, 2017, 12:01:59 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 15, 2017, 09:11:44 AM
Ordered an 8 for myself. This 5s has been good to me but it's time.
Just did the same as my 6 as been unable to hold a charge for a while now. Still not happy about the no headphone jack but the wireless charging somewhat offsets that for me.
They can pry the Home button from my cold dead hands.
This is why I only upgraded recently from 5c > 6s
I've been using the dongle thing for a while (with my work provided (by myself, the IT guy) iPhone7) and it's fine. I leave it attached to the headphones. It works.
My big question with the dongle is how noticeable it is in your pocket. Does it clearly feel like you have an extra thing extruding from your phone? I listen to stuff at the gym regularly, and the phablet already takes up enough room in my gym short pockets. I worry a dongle would put things over the top, especially with moving around and being active.
Quote from: VDB on September 16, 2017, 09:27:15 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 15, 2017, 12:49:50 PM
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Quote from: runawayjimbo on September 15, 2017, 12:01:59 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 15, 2017, 09:11:44 AM
Ordered an 8 for myself. This 5s has been good to me but it's time.
Just did the same as my 6 as been unable to hold a charge for a while now. Still not happy about the no headphone jack but the wireless charging somewhat offsets that for me.
They can pry the Home button from my cold dead hands.
This is why I only upgraded recently from 5c > 6s
I've been using the dongle thing for a while (with my work provided (by myself, the IT guy) iPhone7) and it's fine. I leave it attached to the headphones. It works.
My big question with the dongle is how noticeable it is in your pocket. Does it clearly feel like you have an extra thing extruding from your phone? I listen to stuff at the gym regularly, and the phablet already takes up enough room in my gym short pockets. I worry a dongle would put things over the top, especially with moving around and being active.
I don't have one, so I cannot speak from experience. But the actual part itself is super tiny. It's like two to three inches of a charging cable plus a little headphone adapter at the very end of it. very minimal.
No in-line microphone support though
Why is there so much discussion about the dongle in VDB's pants?
The Ongle of the Dongle is inversely proportion to the heat of the beat.
I don't think the dongle is two inches long. Certainly no more.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 17, 2017, 09:38:38 AM
I don't think the dongle is two inches long. Certainly no more.
So, twice the size of VDB's dongle?
I'll show myself out.
Quote from: runawayjimbo on September 19, 2017, 10:56:53 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 17, 2017, 09:38:38 AM
I don't think the dongle is two inches long. Certainly no more.
So, twice the size of VDB's dongle?
I'll show myself out.
ZING!!!!
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
I'm currently loading iOS11 with no idea what the new features are ;)
Quote from: mattstick on September 19, 2017, 03:34:30 PM
I'm currently loading iOS11 with no idea what the new features are ;)
Gonna do this tonight on the work phone.
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 15, 2017, 09:11:44 AM
Ordered an 8 for myself. This 5s has been good to me but it's time.
Nice dude. That's a big jump. New phones are fun.
I have the 7+. Got the larger one for the camera. It took a little to get used to holding the larger phone but I love the larger screen and wouldn't go back
The dongle is no big deal. I keep it on my headphones. Before I got the 7 I got plantronics blue tooth earbuds for the gym and working in the yard cause the cord would always get stuck somewhere and pull them out. Was glad I did. I use the wired phones w dongle other times and it's fine
I go on vacation for a few days and everyone gets VDB dongle fever.
Understandable.
I'm still with the 7+ (in Jet Black, or course), and think I'm going to wait around for the X. I am not sure if I will like the facial recognition thing over the fingerprint, which is incredibly convenient and reliable. I suppose the facial thing will be nice when wearing gloves and have wet hands or something, but I fear it will be annoying when laying in bed at night and wanting to check the phone for something. It may also unlock the phone way more often than I'd want, when just a glance at my notifications was the intention. Won't it be too easy to authorize payments and purchases on the App Store with this?? Curious how these issues will play out in reality...
While talking about dongles, I do the same as you guys and leave that attached to my Shures at all times, while using my Air Pods on a daily basis. If you haven't jumped on the bandwagon yet, do it. As I said in the Air Pods thread, they are the best thing that Apple has EVER sold.
Quote from: tet on September 22, 2017, 11:14:46 AM
While talking about dongles, I do the same as you guys and leave that attached to my Shures at all times, while using my Air Pods on a daily basis. If you haven't jumped on the bandwagon yet, do it. As I said in the Air Pods thread, they are the best thing that Apple has EVER sold.
Still so wary of them as their regular earbuds which seem clearly to have the same shape do not stay in my ears at all. They either fall out or dangle loosely and sound shitty (because they're not well fitted.)
So, today I tested my wife's headphone-lightning adapter from her new 7 when I went to the gym. It's not as obtrusive as I was fearing. I still think it's an obnoxious move on Apple's part, but luckily it's not the end of the world.
I haven't found the adapter to be too bad, except when you lose them. Inconvenient, yes, but not a huge deal.
came across this:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2017/09/20/apple-ios-11-has-25-great-secret-features/#1dd137f33858
QuoteFlac Support - The Files app unofficially supports playback of high quality FLAC lossless audio files. Store them in Files or in anywhere Files can access (iCloud, Dropbox, Box, Google Drive etc) and it will play them when opened.
Picked up the 8.
Going from the 6S to the 8 is seamless.
It's a nice telephone.
Well ain't that some bullshit
https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/20/16800058/apple-iphone-slow-fix-battery-life-capacity
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Apple confirms iPhones with older batteries will take hits in performance
It makes sense, but the company could have been a bit more transparent
Reddit users have noticed that Apple appears to be slowing down old iPhones that have low-capacity batteries. While many iPhone users have experienced perceived slowdowns due to iOS updates over the years, it appears that there's now proof Apple is throttling processor speeds when a battery capacity deteriorates over time.
Geekbench developer John Poole has mapped out performance for the iPhone 6S and iPhone 7 over time, and has come to the conclusion that Apple's iOS 10.2.1 and 11.2.0 updates introduce this throttling for different devices. iOS 10.2.1 is particularly relevant, as this update was designed to reduce random shutdown issues for the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6S. Apple's fix appears to be throttling the CPU to prevent the phone from randomly shutting down. Geekbench reports that iOS 11.2.0 introduces similar throttling for iPhone 7 units with older batteries.
Some Reddit users report that replacing their batteries has returned performance and CPU clock speeds back to normal. The reports are particularly troubling because any perceived slowdowns by iPhone users might tempt owners to upgrade their entire device instead of replace the battery. "This fix will also cause users to think, 'my phone is slow so I should replace it' not, 'my phone is slow so I should replace its battery,'" says Geekbench's John Poole.
Quote@sam_siruomu (https://twitter.com/sam_siruomu/status/943400254451335168)
So it's true Apple intentionally slow down old iPhones. Proof: My iPhone 6 was bought 3years ago and recently got really slow. APP 'CPU DasherX' shows iPhone CPU is under clocked running at 600MHz. After a iPhone battery replacement. CPU speed resumed to factory setting 1400MHz.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRehd4vUMAE0fRx.jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRehfPIUIAAf6wm.jpg)
When reached for comment, Apple basically confirmed the findings to The Verge, but disputes the assumed intention:
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Our goal is to deliver the best experience for customers, which includes overall performance and prolonging the life of their devices. Lithium-ion batteries become less capable of supplying peak current demands when in cold conditions, have a low battery charge or as they age over time, which can result in the device unexpectedly shutting down to protect its electronic components.
Last year we released a feature for iPhone 6, iPhone 6s and iPhone SE to smooth out the instantaneous peaks only when needed to prevent the device from unexpectedly shutting down during these conditions. We've now extended that feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add support for other products in the future.
Apple is effectively saying that it's not slowing down older iPhones just to urge people to upgrade to newer devices. Rather, the company says it's addressing an issue with devices containing older lithium-ion batteries that results in unexpected shutdowns. Because those older batteries are incapable of handling peak current draws with the same effectiveness of iPhones with newer batteries and more efficient processors, they run the risk of the device powering down to prevent damage to its internal components. The same is true of devices running in extremely cold or hot weather, as evidenced by a recent kerfuffle with the iPhone X shutting down randomly in freezing temperatures.
It all makes sense. As battery life degrades, a smartphone's ability to achieve the same performance with less efficient battery use degrades as well, and Apple has released updates to address that problem as best it can and avoid embarrassing device malfunctions or even potentially dangerous component failures. However, the company isn't doing itself very many favors by being a bit opaque. It's clear that controversies like this — underpinned by conspiracy theories around planned obsolescence — sprout up because there is a lack of communication between device manufacturers like Apple and consumers.
It's also clear that Apple, which makes its devices hard to open and repair, could do a better job helping consumers understand the benefits of battery replacement. That's something the company seems less inclined to do when it might mean forgoing the sale of a new iPhone every 12 to 24 months.
I'm already getting calls from customer's about this bullshit.
Fuck apple and iOS 11, literally nothing but headaches for the repair industry since they released it.
I love pissed off people
lmao
odd question
I have an iphone 7+, ios 11.2.1
Over the weekend I powered down the phone at night. When I powered it up the next day, it said that I needed to change the unlock code for the phone. I was tired and am used to seeing those kind of messages on pc at work, so I did. It didn't ask me for any icloud password or any password whatsoever. I googled it and didn't come up with a straight answer.
the only weird thing that happened operationally is that the 1st time I tried to sync phone to MBP, it stopped after 2 steps, it didn't copy any of the changes I made in itunes. then it said the MBP didn't recognize my phone. It said changes were made, should I apply. I said yes, thinking it meant the unlock code. It still didn't sync, so I rebooted both MBP and phone. When I re booted MBP it said that the computer shut down prematurely but restarted and everything synced fine. As usual, I was kinda in a rush to leave the house as this was going on, so didn't think too much about it. Until now
any ideas????
Quote from: slslbs on January 02, 2018, 11:43:05 AM
odd question
I have an iphone 7+, ios 11.2.1
Over the weekend I powered down the phone at night. When I powered it up the next day, it said that I needed to change the unlock code for the phone. I was tired and am used to seeing those kind of messages on pc at work, so I did. It didn't ask me for any icloud password or any password whatsoever. I googled it and didn't come up with a straight answer.
the only weird thing that happened operationally is that the 1st time I tried to sync phone to MBP, it stopped after 2 steps, it didn't copy any of the changes I made in itunes. then it said the MBP didn't recognize my phone. It said changes were made, should I apply. I said yes, thinking it meant the unlock code. It still didn't sync, so I rebooted both MBP and phone. When I re booted MBP it said that the computer shut down prematurely but restarted and everything synced fine. As usual, I was kinda in a rush to leave the house as this was going on, so didn't think too much about it. Until now
any ideas????
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no, it's probably fine - i've had that weird message on the iPhone before (on my 7+ as well), and nothing ever came of it. i think the 'crash' was just coincidence, so as long as everything is syncing and working fine now, i wouldn't sweat it.
lol, thanks
I'm still on iOS 10 because I'm still jailbroken. And at this point the only reason I'm still jailbroken is to disable the obnoxious downloading and notification nagging of iOS updates.
I was reading today to see if that's still a problem with iOS 12. Articles seem to claim that you can stop this download-and-pester problem via Settings > iTunes & App Stores > Automatic Downloads / Updates = off. However, that toggle has been available since at least 10, and it never did anything to stop the issue.
Can people on 12 confirm if this is something you can actually control now via the phone? I know there are options to block servers via your router, plus another hack or two, but I prefer something global and definitive.
That setting you're pointing to is for app updates. Turn that on, apps stay up to date and life is generally fine.
Running OS updates is painless and easy.
They run when I'm sleeping.
Why not just do them?
Chiefly because I don't want Apple to be the ones in charge of the timeline on which my phone turns slow and useless due to newer software it can't handle. They say 12 isn't a problem for old models in the way updates used to be (I'm not worried about 12 specifically), but Apple's overall track record on this is worrying.
Quote from: VDB on January 09, 2019, 11:31:19 AM
Chiefly because I don't want Apple to be the ones in charge of the timeline on which my phone turns slow and useless due to newer software it can't handle. They say 12 isn't a problem for old models in the way updates used to be (I'm not worried about 12 specifically), but Apple's overall track record on this is worrying.
They're so good when they work though...
when I'm streaming from etree on my phone, the music stops when the screen dims.
Is there a way to keep it playing?
no luck on google search
thx
Quote from: slslbs on February 19, 2019, 12:40:33 PM
when I'm streaming from etree on my phone, the music stops when the screen dims.
Is there a way to keep it playing?
no luck on google search
thx
Are you streaming from etree via Safari? Or are you using the Etree Mobile app?
If it's the former, I recommend Etree Mobile. Relisten is slicker but it doesn't have the breadth of artists.
Quote from: rowjimmy on February 19, 2019, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: slslbs on February 19, 2019, 12:40:33 PM
when I'm streaming from etree on my phone, the music stops when the screen dims.
Is there a way to keep it playing?
no luck on google search
thx
Are you streaming from etree via Safari? Or are you using the Etree Mobile app?
If it's the former, I recommend Etree Mobile. Relisten is slicker but it doesn't have the breadth of artists.
Tapers section is a new app I found that has tons of stuff, I recommend it. Never used relisten personally, I don't have an iPhone. Looks like it has a lot more content than relisten.
I was using Etree mobile app - that's where the glitch was.
Someone on line recommended rebooting my phone. Haven't tried that yet
I d/l Relisten and so far it's working better :wtu:
Thanks
Relisten is great - I'm on their beta program which has fixed some issues as well. While the artist choice is definitely more limited than etree, it's still quite good, and the interface is nice and modern now.
Am I the only one who finds Lightning plugs don't seat reliably in the phone (6S+) anymore? I'm not sure if its these cheaper aftermarket cords that may use a softer metal (I'm speculating) or if the problem is in my phone's port itself. OEM cords *seem* to do better.
I've had an issue with aftermarket cords
I also had problems with an Apple old iphone-lightning adapter at times, but not as much as with the aftermarket stuff. I recently discovered if I push the "extension cord" (3rd party manufacturer) I use in my car a bit more forcefully it connects.
Quote from: VDB on April 11, 2019, 10:55:23 AM
Am I the only one who finds Lightning plugs don't seat reliably in the phone (6S+) anymore? I'm not sure if its these cheaper aftermarket cords that may use a softer metal (I'm speculating) or if the problem is in my phone's port itself. OEM cords *seem* to do better.
Could also be that your charge port is packed full of lint and dirt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izsUH5TGRaI
Only go narrow side to narrow side, do not scrape on the wide sides of your charging port as there are pins and things you can damage.
I had a really bad issue with cords not working on my old phone and it turned out to be exactly that: a bunch of shit (lint mostly) in my port. As far as aftermarket cords, I have had the best luck with OEM Apple cords but have had generally very good luck with Amazon Basic as well. Nice to have a few of those around in 6'. I bought ChargeCords on a whim last year as I got sucked into their advertising (and Rasta colors) and those things sucked. Both of them failed in a month.
Yeah. The same thing happened to me, and the culprit was a mass of lint. Canned air did the trick.
yeah, have definitely had issues with lint, fixed by toothpick.
there have also been cable issues
When my SO tried to link her brand new phone to her macbook for the first time it didn't work - called applecare, gave us some advice, had to restore it and almost turned the damn thing into a brick. It got sent up to a supervisor who suggested trying a new cord. So we took the brand new cord out of the iphone box and it worked perfectly.
Yeah, I guess the port-gunk issue would have been an obvious place to start. I fired some compressed air in there and will see how the cords perform.
I recently replaced my phone but I've had cable issues that seemed to extend beyond lint. My old phone would only charge with certain chords and I'd have to face the phone in a certain direction for it to keep charging. It was a 6S.
Quote from: jam> on April 16, 2019, 05:47:33 PM
I recently replaced my phone but I've had cable issues that seemed to extend beyond lint. My old phone would only charge with certain chords and I'd have to face the phone in a certain direction for it to keep charging. It was a 6S.
have you tried F#min7?
Quote from: VDB on April 16, 2019, 05:31:14 PM
Yeah, I guess the port-gunk issue would have been an obvious place to start. I fired some compressed air in there and will see how the cords perform.
Try to break it up with a toothpick first. Keep in mind you've been packing it down tight every time you plug in.
As far as cables go. You get what you pay for. The ones I always by for my shop that actually last any reasonable amount of time for the abuse we put them through is: Griffin (lifetime warranty), Anker, Amazon basics (lifetime warranty), or Belkin. I don't trust anything else.
Quote from: jam> on April 16, 2019, 05:47:33 PM
I recently replaced my phone but I've had cable issues that seemed to extend beyond lint. My old phone would only charge with certain chords and I'd have to face the phone in a certain direction for it to keep charging. It was a 6S.
I kind of remember this as an issue with the 6s series due to an update. But it could still be lint stuck in the pins. In which case a scrub with Alcohol is necessary
This is how I always do it at work. Turn off the phone, pick out the lint real well, hit it with compressed air, then scrub (more like stab) the port with a toothbrush that has rubbing alcohol, hit it with compressed air again to dry out the port. Finally test.
Quote from: tet on April 16, 2019, 06:10:04 PM
Quote from: jam> on April 16, 2019, 05:47:33 PM
I recently replaced my phone but I've had cable issues that seemed to extend beyond lint. My old phone would only charge with certain chords and I'd have to face the phone in a certain direction for it to keep charging. It was a 6S.
have you tried F#min7?
That doesn't sound as good as going with a G
just preordered the 11 Pro (moving down from the XS Max is a bold choice, but it was just too big) - excited to see this Dark Green in person!
Quote from: tet on September 13, 2019, 08:59:00 AM
just preordered the 11 Pro (moving down from the XS Max is a bold choice, but it was just too big) - excited to see this Dark Green in person!
Sweet- let us know how you like it. I have an XS so not upgrading at this point but my wife is overdue to upgrade her 8.
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 17, 2019, 11:06:30 PM
Quote from: tet on September 13, 2019, 08:59:00 AM
just preordered the 11 Pro (moving down from the XS Max is a bold choice, but it was just too big) - excited to see this Dark Green in person!
Sweet- let us know how you like it. I have an XS so not upgrading at this point but my wife is overdue to upgrade her 8.
yeah i'm on the upgrade program so really this is costing me less money now, hah! I can never go without OLED again, but otherwise the regular 11 is amazing it seems - if looking for a not-crazy upgrade for her, that may be the right call. the new camera stuff looks amazing on either, but the Pro seems even better. we'll see - should be here Friday!
Def waiting for the next version of the SE to come out in early 2020. Kinda pumped for it actually.
Quote from: antelope19 on October 27, 2019, 11:04:32 PM
Def waiting for the next version of the SE to come out in early 2020. Kinda pumped for it actually.
I hear that, the rumors sound legit. should basically be an 11 in disguise, with all the modern internals (maybe last year's internals, just to keep the costs down). introducing the SE was the best decision they had made in a long time
So my old ass 6s is finally on its last legs, and I'm looking to upgrade. I can't break the bank with anything brand new, and so I was thinking about the 8 plus, but I was told that maybe the XR would be better? As you can probably tell, I'm not one who constantly upgrades to the latest and greatest, so I want something that will be worth keeping for as long as possible. What do you guys think? I trust you dudes as iPhone authorities.
Check with PH92 and here: http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=23603.msg847569#new
Looks like he is selling a 6 Plus at this time but might have something else coming up. XR not bad but 8 would be decent upgrade for you too. You could also probably get a X for pretty cheap now. I also think a new one is on the horizon (SE2) and from what I am reading it is supposed to be low cost ($400) and it is supposed to drop this Spring (March announcement I think) so if you can squeeze another month out of your 6, prices on XR and 8 should both be going down, or get the new one.
Quote from: ytowndan on February 24, 2020, 06:04:42 PM
So my old ass 6s is finally on its last legs, and I'm looking to upgrade. I can't break the bank with anything brand new, and so I was thinking about the 8 plus, but I was told that maybe the XR would be better? As you can probably tell, I'm not one who constantly upgrades to the latest and greatest, so I want something that will be worth keeping for as long as possible. What do you guys think? I trust you dudes as iPhone authorities.
If you can get an 8plus for cheap I'd do it. I have an 8plus for work and it's still perfect. Will upgrade in June but only because I want to set a precedent with my boss that I need a new phone every 2 years. If this was my personal device I could ride it out for a long time.
Quote from: ytowndan on February 24, 2020, 06:04:42 PM
So my old ass 6s is finally on its last legs, and I'm looking to upgrade. I can't break the bank with anything brand new, and so I was thinking about the 8 plus, but I was told that maybe the XR would be better? As you can probably tell, I'm not one who constantly upgrades to the latest and greatest, so I want something that will be worth keeping for as long as possible. What do you guys think? I trust you dudes as iPhone authorities.
I have another 6s that I'm taking a look at, I'm not sure I'll be able to fix it, though. I also have an iPhone 7 256GB that I'm about to get from a friend that I can repair. If you want that 6+ to hold you over, I'd sell it for cheap. Other than that, I have a couple of android phones.
Google Pixel 2 XL 64GB Black, Unlocked - Like new condition
Google Pixel 3 XL 128GB Black, Unlocked - Grade C, moderate scuffs and scratches on frame/glass
I recently upgraded my work 6s to an 8 and love it. The old one wasn't holding a charge very well. The camera is noticeably better. I spend a lot of time in the car and dread when the battery isn't 100% because I hate talking on Bluetooth. My personal 6s is also on its last legs(it basically died at Thanksgiving, but I was able to restore it from a recent backup), but I'm hoping I can make it to the launch of the new SE/IPhone 9/iPhone/ whatever they're going to call it. But the rumors are stating production could be delayed due to coronavirus. So we'll see.
Quote from: antelope19 on February 25, 2020, 06:00:21 PM
I recently upgraded my work 6s to an 8 and love it. The old one wasn't holding a charge very well. The camera is noticeably better. I spend a lot of time in the car and dread when the battery isn't 100% because I hate talking on Bluetooth. My personal 6s is also on its last legs(it basically died at Thanksgiving, but I was able to restore it from a recent backup), but I'm hoping I can make it to the launch of the new SE/IPhone 9/iPhone/ whatever they're going to call it. But the rumors are stating production could be delayed due to coronavirus. So we'll see.
Quote from: ytowndan on February 24, 2020, 06:04:42 PM
So my old ass 6s is finally on its last legs, and I'm looking to upgrade. I can't break the bank with anything brand new, and so I was thinking about the 8 plus, but I was told that maybe the XR would be better? As you can probably tell, I'm not one who constantly upgrades to the latest and greatest, so I want something that will be worth keeping for as long as possible. What do you guys think? I trust you dudes as iPhone authorities.
Also I should ask what symptoms are you having when you say "last legs"? Just battery dying quickly etc? Cause you could always go get your battery replaced for like 50 or less at most all repair shops. I'd suggest y'all look into it to make those devices last a bit longer. If there is a uBreakiFix (company I work for) in your area they offer free diagnostics, so they could at least look at your phone.
I still love my 8. Gonna be a sad day when I move on from it. Honestly, it's the perfect size. I've had an XR and now an 11 from work and they're excellent phones if you have the dough but I wish they were the size of my 8.
Wild three year bump.
Since my iPhone 8 (see previous post) will no longer get new the iOS, it's time to move up.
I'm officially making the jump from an 8 to a 15.