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Title: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: MiamiPhish on September 28, 2009, 02:52:19 PM
Thoughts?
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: sophist on September 28, 2009, 02:58:31 PM
100 Year Hall. 
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 28, 2009, 03:02:36 PM
Quote from: Sophist on September 28, 2009, 02:58:31 PM
100 Year Hall.

that thing is out there!
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: rowjimmy on September 28, 2009, 03:14:17 PM
QuoteOtherOne Mix

Introduction, Cryptical Envelopment > Drums >
The Other One (verse1) > Space > Spanish Jam >
Mind Left Body Jam > The Other One (v2) > Cryptical Reprise
Total Running Time- 69:34

Details:

Introduction -
00:00 > 00:03 1968-02-14 Carousel Ballroom- San Francisco, CA

The Cryptical Envelopment >
00:03 > 00:52 1969-02-14 Electric Factory, Philadelphia, PA
00:52 > 02:13 1970-05-01 Alfred State College (S.U.N.Y.)- Alfred, New York
02:13 > 02:18 1969-02-14

Drums >
02:18 > 03:55 1970-05-01
03:55 > 04:30 1971-12-06 Felt Forum, Madison Square Garden- NY, NY

The Other One >
04:30 > 04:41 [Intro*]
1969-02-14
1974-02-23 Winterland Arena- San Francisco, CA
1971-11-07 Harding Theatre- San Francisco, CA
1985-03-28 Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum- Uniondale, NY
1979-10-27 Cape Cod Coliseum- South Yarmouth, MA
1985-06-30 Merriweather Post Pavilion- Columbia, MD
1974-02-23**
1972-05-16 Radio Luxembourg - Luxembourg, W. Germany

04:41 > 06:14 1971-11-07
06:14 > 07:13 1972-05-16
07:13 > 09:43 1968-10-12 Avalon Ballroom- San Francisco, CA
09:43 > 10:07 1985-06-30
10:07 > 10:34 1968-02-14
10:34 > 14:31 1972-05-16
14:31 > 19:25 1974-02-23

Space >
19:25 > 25:11 1989-08-19 Greek Theater, Berkeley, CA

Spanish Jam > Mind Jeft Body Jam >
25:11 > 27:22 1992-06-22 Star Lake Amphitheater- Burgettstown, PA
27:22 > 32:05 1974-10-17 Winterland Arena- San Francisco, CA

The Other One >
32:05 > 34:55 1974-02-23
34:55 > 38:19 1972-05-16
38:19 > 42:46 1972-08-22 Berkeley Community Theater- Berkeley, CA
42:46 > 47:30 1971-11-07
47:30 > 53:50 1973-03-31 War Memorial Auditorium- Buffalo, NY
53:50 > 55:58 1985-06-30
55:58 > 57:01 1968-02-14

Cryptical Reprise
57:01 > 58:29 1968-10-12
58:29 > 63:24 1970-05-01
63:24 > 68:24 1968-10-12
68:24 > 69:20 1970-05-01

69:20 > 69:34 1971-11-07

-All timings are approximate


*For the Other One Intro (aka the thumping bass crescendo followed by a catrostrophic (at its best!) bomb which intros most, but not all versions of The Other One) I overlayed several versions of this moment in order to give this some major oomph... One of two exceptions being the 1985-06-30 (MPP, Columbia, MD) clip which is actually from the Space which preceeded The Other One. The clip contains an simulated bomb and explosion generated via midi. See below for the other exception.

** This is the entire 1974-02-23 The Other One (approx 29minutes) 'folded' much in the style of John Oswald who created the "GreyFolded" album. Essentially, I took the entire 29 minute track, cut it in half, reversed the second half and overlayed it onto the first. Then I repeated the process until the track was reduced to the 1 second version currently in this mix.

Venue information is not repeated so as to keep things relatively tidy.
All sources are lossless and from archive.org/audio and are in compliance with the taping/trading policy of the band. This recording is not for sale.

Mixed by rowjimmy.
(2005-08-19)


This one will mess with your head. "mixed for the hallucinations" as they say.


Any Other One in that mix is quality, as well.

And yeah, I'm a tad immodest.
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: danje on September 28, 2009, 03:14:22 PM
5/3/72
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 28, 2009, 03:22:35 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 28, 2009, 03:14:17 PM
QuoteOtherOne Mix

Introduction, Cryptical Envelopment > Drums >
The Other One (verse1) > Space > Spanish Jam >
Mind Left Body Jam > The Other One (v2) > Cryptical Reprise
Total Running Time- 69:34

Details:

Introduction -
00:00 > 00:03 1968-02-14 Carousel Ballroom- San Francisco, CA

The Cryptical Envelopment >
00:03 > 00:52 1969-02-14 Electric Factory, Philadelphia, PA
00:52 > 02:13 1970-05-01 Alfred State College (S.U.N.Y.)- Alfred, New York
02:13 > 02:18 1969-02-14

Drums >
02:18 > 03:55 1970-05-01
03:55 > 04:30 1971-12-06 Felt Forum, Madison Square Garden- NY, NY

The Other One >
04:30 > 04:41 [Intro*]
1969-02-14
1974-02-23 Winterland Arena- San Francisco, CA
1971-11-07 Harding Theatre- San Francisco, CA
1985-03-28 Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum- Uniondale, NY
1979-10-27 Cape Cod Coliseum- South Yarmouth, MA
1985-06-30 Merriweather Post Pavilion- Columbia, MD
1974-02-23**
1972-05-16 Radio Luxembourg - Luxembourg, W. Germany

04:41 > 06:14 1971-11-07
06:14 > 07:13 1972-05-16
07:13 > 09:43 1968-10-12 Avalon Ballroom- San Francisco, CA
09:43 > 10:07 1985-06-30
10:07 > 10:34 1968-02-14
10:34 > 14:31 1972-05-16
14:31 > 19:25 1974-02-23

Space >
19:25 > 25:11 1989-08-19 Greek Theater, Berkeley, CA

Spanish Jam > Mind Jeft Body Jam >
25:11 > 27:22 1992-06-22 Star Lake Amphitheater- Burgettstown, PA
27:22 > 32:05 1974-10-17 Winterland Arena- San Francisco, CA

The Other One >
32:05 > 34:55 1974-02-23
34:55 > 38:19 1972-05-16
38:19 > 42:46 1972-08-22 Berkeley Community Theater- Berkeley, CA
42:46 > 47:30 1971-11-07
47:30 > 53:50 1973-03-31 War Memorial Auditorium- Buffalo, NY
53:50 > 55:58 1985-06-30
55:58 > 57:01 1968-02-14

Cryptical Reprise
57:01 > 58:29 1968-10-12
58:29 > 63:24 1970-05-01
63:24 > 68:24 1968-10-12
68:24 > 69:20 1970-05-01

69:20 > 69:34 1971-11-07

-All timings are approximate


*For the Other One Intro (aka the thumping bass crescendo followed by a catrostrophic (at its best!) bomb which intros most, but not all versions of The Other One) I overlayed several versions of this moment in order to give this some major oomph... One of two exceptions being the 1985-06-30 (MPP, Columbia, MD) clip which is actually from the Space which preceeded The Other One. The clip contains an simulated bomb and explosion generated via midi. See below for the other exception.

** This is the entire 1974-02-23 The Other One (approx 29minutes) 'folded' much in the style of John Oswald who created the "GreyFolded" album. Essentially, I took the entire 29 minute track, cut it in half, reversed the second half and overlayed it onto the first. Then I repeated the process until the track was reduced to the 1 second version currently in this mix.

Venue information is not repeated so as to keep things relatively tidy.
All sources are lossless and from archive.org/audio and are in compliance with the taping/trading policy of the band. This recording is not for sale.

Mixed by rowjimmy.
(2005-08-19)


This one will mess with your head. "mixed for the hallucinations" as they say.


Any Other One in that mix is quality, as well.

And yeah, I'm a tad immodest.

Linky linky?
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: mattstick on September 28, 2009, 03:23:07 PM
post-70s, 8/19/89
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: sophist on September 28, 2009, 03:29:36 PM
Quote from: mattstick on September 28, 2009, 03:23:07 PM
post-70s, 8/19/89
agreed.  good call on the '89 heat. 
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: rowjimmy on September 28, 2009, 03:39:37 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on September 28, 2009, 03:22:35 PM
Linky linky?

Tomorrow...
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 28, 2009, 03:43:04 PM
::Taps foot impatiently::
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: VA $l!m on September 28, 2009, 04:09:09 PM
the correct answer IS.........
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: VA $l!m on September 28, 2009, 04:11:44 PM
for starters i'm partial to all vers. from 72.

9-23, 8-22 are good places to start.
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: MiamiPhish on September 28, 2009, 05:48:49 PM
I dig.
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: sls.stormyrider on September 28, 2009, 09:21:22 PM
Quote from: VA slim on September 28, 2009, 04:11:44 PM
for starters i'm partial to all vers. from 72.

9-23, 8-22 are good places to start.
yea
the versions that come to mind are 5/26/72 and 12/31/72
don't think there is one from "pre hiatus" that isn't great
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: mistercharlie on September 28, 2009, 09:22:00 PM
I'll second the RJ mix!! That thing rocks!!!!!!!!!!!  :rockout:
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: rowjimmy on September 29, 2009, 08:32:44 AM
http://www.sendspace.com/file/g5gtd8

Quote from: rowjimmy on September 28, 2009, 03:14:17 PM
QuoteOtherOne Mix

Introduction, Cryptical Envelopment > Drums >
The Other One (verse1) > Space > Spanish Jam >
Mind Left Body Jam > The Other One (v2) > Cryptical Reprise
Total Running Time- 69:34

Details:

Introduction -
00:00 > 00:03 1968-02-14 Carousel Ballroom- San Francisco, CA

The Cryptical Envelopment >
00:03 > 00:52 1969-02-14 Electric Factory, Philadelphia, PA
00:52 > 02:13 1970-05-01 Alfred State College (S.U.N.Y.)- Alfred, New York
02:13 > 02:18 1969-02-14

Drums >
02:18 > 03:55 1970-05-01
03:55 > 04:30 1971-12-06 Felt Forum, Madison Square Garden- NY, NY

The Other One >
04:30 > 04:41 [Intro*]
1969-02-14
1974-02-23 Winterland Arena- San Francisco, CA
1971-11-07 Harding Theatre- San Francisco, CA
1985-03-28 Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum- Uniondale, NY
1979-10-27 Cape Cod Coliseum- South Yarmouth, MA
1985-06-30 Merriweather Post Pavilion- Columbia, MD
1974-02-23**
1972-05-16 Radio Luxembourg - Luxembourg, W. Germany

04:41 > 06:14 1971-11-07
06:14 > 07:13 1972-05-16
07:13 > 09:43 1968-10-12 Avalon Ballroom- San Francisco, CA
09:43 > 10:07 1985-06-30
10:07 > 10:34 1968-02-14
10:34 > 14:31 1972-05-16
14:31 > 19:25 1974-02-23

Space >
19:25 > 25:11 1989-08-19 Greek Theater, Berkeley, CA

Spanish Jam > Mind Jeft Body Jam >
25:11 > 27:22 1992-06-22 Star Lake Amphitheater- Burgettstown, PA
27:22 > 32:05 1974-10-17 Winterland Arena- San Francisco, CA

The Other One >
32:05 > 34:55 1974-02-23
34:55 > 38:19 1972-05-16
38:19 > 42:46 1972-08-22 Berkeley Community Theater- Berkeley, CA
42:46 > 47:30 1971-11-07
47:30 > 53:50 1973-03-31 War Memorial Auditorium- Buffalo, NY
53:50 > 55:58 1985-06-30
55:58 > 57:01 1968-02-14

Cryptical Reprise
57:01 > 58:29 1968-10-12
58:29 > 63:24 1970-05-01
63:24 > 68:24 1968-10-12
68:24 > 69:20 1970-05-01

69:20 > 69:34 1971-11-07

-All timings are approximate


*For the Other One Intro (aka the thumping bass crescendo followed by a catrostrophic (at its best!) bomb which intros most, but not all versions of The Other One) I overlayed several versions of this moment in order to give this some major oomph... One of two exceptions being the 1985-06-30 (MPP, Columbia, MD) clip which is actually from the Space which preceeded The Other One. The clip contains an simulated bomb and explosion generated via midi. See below for the other exception.

** This is the entire 1974-02-23 The Other One (approx 29minutes) 'folded' much in the style of John Oswald who created the "GreyFolded" album. Essentially, I took the entire 29 minute track, cut it in half, reversed the second half and overlayed it onto the first. Then I repeated the process until the track was reduced to the 1 second version currently in this mix.

Venue information is not repeated so as to keep things relatively tidy.
All sources are lossless and from archive.org/audio and are in compliance with the taping/trading policy of the band. This recording is not for sale.

Mixed by rowjimmy.
(2005-08-19)


This one will mess with your head. "mixed for the hallucinations" as they say.


Any Other One in that mix is quality, as well.

And yeah, I'm a tad immodest.
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: sophist on September 29, 2009, 08:48:09 AM
sweet.  Thanks for upping it. 
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 29, 2009, 09:04:57 AM
Quote from: Sophist on September 29, 2009, 08:48:09 AM
sweet.  Thanks for upping it.
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: VA $l!m on September 29, 2009, 12:22:46 PM
Quote from: slslbs on September 28, 2009, 09:21:22 PM
Quote from: VA slim on September 28, 2009, 04:11:44 PM
for starters i'm partial to all vers. from 72.

9-23, 8-22 are good places to start.
yea
the versions that come to mind are 5/26/72 and 12/31/72
don't think there is one from "pre hiatus" that isn't great
yea, its real tough to pick one...or another...one.
the ones i mentioned, and vers. like 5-26 also come to mind for me ususally b/c there is some epic moment/-meltdown within an already kickass version. though the europe 72 vers. are still breaking out of the 'mold'. whereas the fall vers. start going freeform and yet still hold onto the 'drive' that is so compeling from everything that leads up to that era.

also notable along with teh 72s, are vers. from 70...2-13?, but for more fun check out the early keith vers from late 71. seriously crazy sh-- once the keys are infused.
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: susep on September 29, 2009, 08:18:29 PM
Quote from: slslbs on September 28, 2009, 09:21:22 PM

the versions that come to mind are 5/26/72 and 12/31/72


very choice esp. 31Dec.72

I like 6Aug.71 as well.  The HYH version is cool, esp. the laid back jazz/clementine esque jam 18:45 in. 

My under the radar, all-time best version is 10May1972, arguably the best version the  :syf: ever played!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: djk on September 30, 2009, 12:24:36 AM
8-6-71
9-28-72
11-17-72
10-21-78
10-27-79
5-6-81
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: VA $l!m on September 30, 2009, 06:06:08 PM
Quote from: susep73 on September 29, 2009, 08:18:29 PM
Quote from: slslbs on September 28, 2009, 09:21:22 PM

the versions that come to mind are 5/26/72 and 12/31/72


very choice esp. 31Dec.72

I like 6Aug.71 as well.  The HYH version is cool, esp. the laid back jazz/clementine esque jam 18:45 in. 

My under the radar, all-time best version is 10May1972, arguably the best version the  :syf: ever played!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i'll have to pull 5-10 out. i get all the europe versions mashed up in my head. though i was thinking about the previous show from bickershaw might have it as well...

anyway, i dislike any 'best of' lists in general, but for discussion's sake this thread would be amiss without mention of 6-18-74, a stock answer with which i completely concur.

also, for kicks, here's the top ten from deadbase IX's survey. of course the frame of reference was limited by what circulated back then.

1 .2-13-70
2. 5-2-70
3. 12-31-72
4. 3-1-69
5. 6-18-74
6. 10-27-79
7. 9-28-72
8. 8-19-89
9.12-31-90
10. 2-24-92


the top 7 listed are locks in my book.
also not discussed here yet the ver. from the 10-27-79 show is worth highlighting. along with 8-22-72 (a definite top ten somehow completely omitted from the survey; i'm assuming from lack of circulation) it contains one of the most cataclysmic climaxes in dead history with some fantastic mind numbing effects thrown in by the emerging Brent mydland.
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: sls.stormyrider on September 30, 2009, 08:04:49 PM
was gonna mention 6-18-74 but you beat me to it.
I'll mention it anyway
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: Gumbo72203 on October 01, 2009, 07:16:13 PM
I'm not saying its the best, but I've always been VERY partial to the 5/12/81 version because of Brent's organ scream after Phil drops the intro. 

Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: MiamiPhish on October 01, 2009, 07:18:24 PM
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on October 01, 2009, 07:16:13 PM
I'm not saying its the best, but I've always been VERY partial to the 5/12/81 version because of Brent's organ scream after Phil drops the intro.

read that as orgasm scream upon first reading...  i thought, innnnteresting.
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: susep on October 01, 2009, 09:57:50 PM
Quote from: VA slim on September 30, 2009, 06:06:08 PM

4. 3-1-69


another amazing version, the jam between verses exceeds 4 min, a plus for that era.  Jerry is simply brimming w/ ideas.  I'm listening to the Fillmore West Box cut, sickness!!!
:syf:
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: kramerica2010 on October 01, 2009, 10:04:49 PM
Friday, 05/03/1985 University of Vermont, Burlington, VT
Set 1: Slave to the Traffic Light, Mike's Song, Dave's Energy Guide, Big Leg Emma

Set 2: Alumni Blues, Wild Child, Can't You Hear Me Knockin', Jam -> Cities, Bring it on Home
Set 3: Scarlet Begonias > Eyes of the World, Whipping Post -> McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters > Makisupa Policeman, Run Like an Antelope -> The Other One

Encore: Anarchy
:-P
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: rowjimmy on October 01, 2009, 10:06:26 PM
pfft
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: susep on October 01, 2009, 10:49:13 PM
15April1970!!!
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: sophist on October 02, 2009, 07:44:07 AM
Quote from: kramerica2010 on October 01, 2009, 10:04:49 PM
Friday, 05/03/1985 University of Vermont, Burlington, VT
Set 1: Slave to the Traffic Light, Mike's Song, Dave's Energy Guide, Big Leg Emma

Set 2: Alumni Blues, Wild Child, Can't You Hear Me Knockin', Jam -> Cities, Bring it on Home
Set 3: Scarlet Begonias > Eyes of the World, Whipping Post -> McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters > Makisupa Policeman, Run Like an Antelope -> The Other One

Encore: Anarchy
:-P
would you like a side of fail with that?
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: chinarider79 on December 28, 2009, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 29, 2009, 08:32:44 AM
http://www.sendspace.com/file/g5gtd8

Quote from: rowjimmy on September 28, 2009, 03:14:17 PM
QuoteOtherOne Mix

Introduction, Cryptical Envelopment > Drums >
The Other One (verse1) > Space > Spanish Jam >
Mind Left Body Jam > The Other One (v2) > Cryptical Reprise
Total Running Time- 69:34

Details:

Introduction -
00:00 > 00:03 1968-02-14 Carousel Ballroom- San Francisco, CA

The Cryptical Envelopment >
00:03 > 00:52 1969-02-14 Electric Factory, Philadelphia, PA
00:52 > 02:13 1970-05-01 Alfred State College (S.U.N.Y.)- Alfred, New York
02:13 > 02:18 1969-02-14

Drums >
02:18 > 03:55 1970-05-01
03:55 > 04:30 1971-12-06 Felt Forum, Madison Square Garden- NY, NY

The Other One >
04:30 > 04:41 [Intro*]
1969-02-14
1974-02-23 Winterland Arena- San Francisco, CA
1971-11-07 Harding Theatre- San Francisco, CA
1985-03-28 Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum- Uniondale, NY
1979-10-27 Cape Cod Coliseum- South Yarmouth, MA
1985-06-30 Merriweather Post Pavilion- Columbia, MD
1974-02-23**
1972-05-16 Radio Luxembourg - Luxembourg, W. Germany

04:41 > 06:14 1971-11-07
06:14 > 07:13 1972-05-16
07:13 > 09:43 1968-10-12 Avalon Ballroom- San Francisco, CA
09:43 > 10:07 1985-06-30
10:07 > 10:34 1968-02-14
10:34 > 14:31 1972-05-16
14:31 > 19:25 1974-02-23

Space >
19:25 > 25:11 1989-08-19 Greek Theater, Berkeley, CA

Spanish Jam > Mind Jeft Body Jam >
25:11 > 27:22 1992-06-22 Star Lake Amphitheater- Burgettstown, PA
27:22 > 32:05 1974-10-17 Winterland Arena- San Francisco, CA

The Other One >
32:05 > 34:55 1974-02-23
34:55 > 38:19 1972-05-16
38:19 > 42:46 1972-08-22 Berkeley Community Theater- Berkeley, CA
42:46 > 47:30 1971-11-07
47:30 > 53:50 1973-03-31 War Memorial Auditorium- Buffalo, NY
53:50 > 55:58 1985-06-30
55:58 > 57:01 1968-02-14

Cryptical Reprise
57:01 > 58:29 1968-10-12
58:29 > 63:24 1970-05-01
63:24 > 68:24 1968-10-12
68:24 > 69:20 1970-05-01

69:20 > 69:34 1971-11-07

-All timings are approximate


*For the Other One Intro (aka the thumping bass crescendo followed by a catrostrophic (at its best!) bomb which intros most, but not all versions of The Other One) I overlayed several versions of this moment in order to give this some major oomph... One of two exceptions being the 1985-06-30 (MPP, Columbia, MD) clip which is actually from the Space which preceeded The Other One. The clip contains an simulated bomb and explosion generated via midi. See below for the other exception.

** This is the entire 1974-02-23 The Other One (approx 29minutes) 'folded' much in the style of John Oswald who created the "GreyFolded" album. Essentially, I took the entire 29 minute track, cut it in half, reversed the second half and overlayed it onto the first. Then I repeated the process until the track was reduced to the 1 second version currently in this mix.

Venue information is not repeated so as to keep things relatively tidy.
All sources are lossless and from archive.org/audio and are in compliance with the taping/trading policy of the band. This recording is not for sale.

Mixed by rowjimmy.
(2005-08-19)


This one will mess with your head. "mixed for the hallucinations" as they say.


Any Other One in that mix is quality, as well.

And yeah, I'm a tad immodest.

new here....  How long do you keep these download links working, rj??
.....and when's the next one "coming around"?
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: rowjimmy on December 28, 2009, 03:26:56 PM
They are up until inactive for too long.
You need a re-up?
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: chinarider79 on December 28, 2009, 03:28:21 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 28, 2009, 03:26:56 PM
They are up until inactive for too long.
You need a re-up?

yeah, man....  Thanks a lot
Title: Re: "Best" The Other One?
Post by: rowjimmy on December 28, 2009, 03:29:37 PM
Quote from: chinarider79 on December 28, 2009, 03:28:21 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 28, 2009, 03:26:56 PM
They are up until inactive for too long.
You need a re-up?

yeah, man....  Thanks a lot

Don't thank me yet...
I'm quite the slacker.

I'll see what I can do.