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Title: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: ph92 on July 12, 2017, 10:30:41 AM
Hey everyone, I'm sure you've all heard about how Net Neutrality is attempting to be squashed by the big ISPs. I would hope you like the internet in the state its in, free and generally reliable. Please take some time and check out this website, you can send an email to the FCC as well as call congress about this issue.

https://www.battleforthenet.com/

Please help save the internet! If not the paug would be in a "slow lane" and how will we have LST if we're in a slow lane?!?!?!
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: khalpin on July 12, 2017, 11:18:11 AM
Quote from: ph92 on July 12, 2017, 10:30:41 AM
Hey everyone, I'm sure you've all heard about how Net Neutrality is attempting to be squashed by the big ISPs. I would hope you like the internet in the state its in, free and generally reliable. Please take some time and check out this website, you can send an email to the FCC as well as call congress about this issue.

https://www.battleforthenet.com/

Please help save the internet! If not the paug would be in a "slow lane" and how will we have LST if we're in a slow lane?!?!?!
Sent my e-mail earlier this morning.
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: Hicks on July 12, 2017, 12:56:28 PM
Quote from: khalpin on July 12, 2017, 11:18:11 AM
Quote from: ph92 on July 12, 2017, 10:30:41 AM
Hey everyone, I'm sure you've all heard about how Net Neutrality is attempting to be squashed by the big ISPs. I would hope you like the internet in the state its in, free and generally reliable. Please take some time and check out this website, you can send an email to the FCC as well as call congress about this issue.

https://www.battleforthenet.com/

Please help save the internet! If not the paug would be in a "slow lane" and how will we have LST if we're in a slow lane?!?!?!
Sent my e-mail earlier this morning.
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: mistercharlie on July 12, 2017, 05:45:05 PM
Quote from: khalpin on July 12, 2017, 11:18:11 AM
Quote from: ph92 on July 12, 2017, 10:30:41 AM
Hey everyone, I'm sure you've all heard about how Net Neutrality is attempting to be squashed by the big ISPs. I would hope you like the internet in the state its in, free and generally reliable. Please take some time and check out this website, you can send an email to the FCC as well as call congress about this issue.

https://www.battleforthenet.com/

Please help save the internet! If not the paug would be in a "slow lane" and how will we have LST if we're in a slow lane?!?!?!
Sent my e-mail earlier this morning just now.
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: runawayjimbo on December 14, 2017, 11:42:12 AM
Here it comes. Been nice knowing y'all.

In case you want to watch the fiery death of the internetz:
https://www.fcc.gov/general/live

ETA: hearing suspended as Ajit Pai is reading his statement due to bomb threat! Totes normal.
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: mehead on December 14, 2017, 01:42:04 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on December 14, 2017, 11:42:12 AM
Here it comes. Been nice knowing y'all.

In case you want to watch the fiery death of the internetz:
https://www.fcc.gov/general/live

ETA: hearing suspended as Ajit Pai is reading his statement due to bomb threat! Totes normal.

3-2 to repeal.

:shakehead: :frustrated: :shakehead: :frustrated: :shakehead: :frustrated:
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: emay on December 14, 2017, 02:02:35 PM
 :shakehead: :frustrated:

now onto Congress

https://www.wired.com/story/after-fcc-vote-net-neutrality-fight-moves-to-courts-congress/
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: WhatstheUse? on December 14, 2017, 02:13:20 PM
Son of a :frustrated:
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: mbw on December 14, 2017, 03:29:10 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on December 14, 2017, 11:42:12 AM
Here it comes. Been nice knowing y'all.

In case you want to watch the fiery death of the internetz:
https://www.fcc.gov/general/live

Back to the dark ages of 2015.
Wait, I thought you were a free market guy?
Being pro government intervention only when it directly effects you, how very rebublican of you.
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: ph92 on December 15, 2017, 08:58:22 AM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on December 14, 2017, 11:42:12 AM
Here it comes. Been nice knowing y'all.

In case you want to watch the fiery death of the internetz:
https://www.fcc.gov/general/live

ETA: hearing suspended as Ajit Pai is reading his statement due to bomb threat! Totes normal.
the internet is ser biz
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: runawayjimbo on December 15, 2017, 09:21:55 AM
Quote from: mbw on December 14, 2017, 03:29:10 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on December 14, 2017, 11:42:12 AM
Here it comes. Been nice knowing y'all.

In case you want to watch the fiery death of the internetz:
https://www.fcc.gov/general/live

Back to the dark ages of 2015.
Wait, I thought you were a free market guy?
Being pro government intervention only when it directly effects you, how very rebublican of you.

I was being sarcastic. I am fully in favor of Title II repeal.
::ducks::
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: mbw on December 15, 2017, 09:51:24 AM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on December 15, 2017, 09:21:55 AM
Quote from: mbw on December 14, 2017, 03:29:10 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on December 14, 2017, 11:42:12 AM
Here it comes. Been nice knowing y'all.

In case you want to watch the fiery death of the internetz:
https://www.fcc.gov/general/live

Back to the dark ages of 2015.
Wait, I thought you were a free market guy?
Being pro government intervention only when it directly effects you, how very rebublican of you.

I was being sarcastic. I am fully in favor of Title II repeal.
::ducks::

Well then I applaud your consistency.
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: Hicks on December 15, 2017, 10:31:36 AM
And that is why libertarianism is dumb.
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: runawayjimbo on December 15, 2017, 11:06:53 AM
Quote from: Hicks on December 15, 2017, 10:31:36 AM
And that is why libertarianism is dumb.

If you could point me to a measured, logical argument why Title II regulation is essential to a free functioning internet, my mind is always open to changing. But all I've seen is hyperbolic, ZOMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE screeds built on hypotheticals and bad faith assumptions about what the evil corporations are totally going to do in the future. I find these arguments less than convincing.

But like mbw said, I guess we'll just have to go back to the dark internet ages of twenty-aught-fifteen. May God have mercy on us all.
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: Hicks on December 15, 2017, 11:14:08 AM
I'm not gonna waste everyone's time presenting a case for corporations like Comcast and Verizon not having your best interests in mind. 

That should be self evident. 

And if it isn't to you, I'd refer you to my last comment. 
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: Hicks on December 15, 2017, 11:17:33 AM
I mean seriously, you trust this piece of shit to protect your rights as a consumer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Nu8ksLPu4
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: runawayjimbo on December 15, 2017, 11:35:03 AM
Quote from: Hicks on December 15, 2017, 11:14:08 AM
I'm not gonna waste everyone's time presenting a case for corporations like Comcast and Verizon not having your best interests in mind. 

That should be self evident. 

And if it isn't to you, I'd refer you to my last comment.

I was more looking for a link but no worries.

Quote from: Hicks on December 15, 2017, 11:17:33 AM
I mean seriously, you trust this piece of shit to protect your rights as a consumer?

Lol fuck him and his dumb giant coffee cup too. Although not gonna lie, the death threats against him and his family by NN supporters (http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/fcc-ajit-pai-net-neutrality-harassment-1202624432/) definitely made supporting him a little easier to swallow.

(https://southfloridaforbeginners.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/agit-pai.jpg?w=497)
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: ytowndan on December 15, 2017, 11:39:07 AM
If NN rules are no big deal and not needed, then why such an active push by major players in the industry to get rid of them?  If everyone plans on playing by the rules anyway, what difference does it make if they're there?  Why push through an appeal at all?
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: mbw on December 15, 2017, 12:02:33 PM
Quote from: Hicks on December 15, 2017, 11:17:33 AM
I mean seriously, you trust this piece of shit to protect your rights as a consumer?


uhhhh, what is going on at about 1:20 of that vid  :police:

i would advise not to listen at work.
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: runawayjimbo on December 15, 2017, 12:25:23 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on December 15, 2017, 11:39:07 AM
If NN rules are no big deal and not needed, then why such an active push by major players in the industry to get rid of them?  If everyone plans on playing by the rules anyway, what difference does it make if they’re there?  Why push through an appeal at all?

Because they wanted to implement the same rules in a more permanent fashion legislatively? Because they understood that regulatory rules could be changed relatively easily from one administration to the next and in order to fully suppress competition and secure their market dominance they needed to codify a "free and open internet" into law?

But let me flip it on you:  why are the emerging corporate overlords - Google, Facebook, Amazon, Netflix - so interested in preserving the overly burdensome rules? If they are really committed to neutrality, why would they be so eager to have a big bad policeman standing in the way with the authority to decide who wins and who loses literally on a case by case basis?
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: Hicks on December 15, 2017, 12:42:00 PM
Whoops definitely the wrong version there, fixed my post, feel free to delete the vid from your quote mbw. 
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: emay on December 15, 2017, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: Hicks on December 15, 2017, 12:42:00 PM
Whoops definitely the wrong version there, fixed my post, feel free to delete the vid from your quote mbw.

I saw Baauer is suing him for the use of "Harlem Shake" without proper approval...
Title: Re: Battle for Net Neutrality and how you can help!
Post by: Hicks on December 15, 2017, 01:49:16 PM
Quote from: emay on December 15, 2017, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: Hicks on December 15, 2017, 12:42:00 PM
Whoops definitely the wrong version there, fixed my post, feel free to delete the vid from your quote mbw.

I saw Baauer is suing him for the use of "Harlem Shake" without proper approval...

Ha, that's awesome, shoulda kept it under seven seconds asshole.