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Title: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on August 01, 2009, 01:42:59 AM
2009-07-31
Red Rocks Amphitheater. Morrison, CO

Set 1: Runaway Jim, Chalk Dust Torture, Bathtub Gin, Time Turns Elastic, Lawn Boy, Water in the Sky, Stealing Time From the Faulty Plan, Split Open and Melt

Set 2: Drowned> Crosseyed and Painless> Joy, Tweezer> Backwards Down the Numberline> Fluffhead*> Piper> A Day in the Life

Encore: Suzy Greenberg**> Tweezer Reprise

*Unfinished
**Crosseyed and Painless Tease
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PhishPhan on August 01, 2009, 01:45:12 AM
G-O-O-D show.]
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on August 01, 2009, 01:46:35 AM
Looking forward to tomorrow morning. I hope Taylorc get's it up as fast as he did last night.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on August 01, 2009, 01:46:44 AM
I've got to be up at 7 to drive 3 hours north to the land of no internet.  Everybody enjoy the rest of Red Rocks->Shoreline->Gorge1.  I'll see you next Saturday night,  It's been real!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PhishPhan on August 01, 2009, 01:48:08 AM
Quote from: Undermind on August 01, 2009, 01:46:44 AM
I've got to be up at 7 to drive 3 hours north to the land of no internet.  Everybody enjoy the rest of Red Rocks->Shoreline->Gorge1.  I'll see you next Saturday night,  It's been real!

It's been real, it's been fun, but it ain't been real fun!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on August 01, 2009, 01:49:19 AM
Quote from: Undermind on August 01, 2009, 01:46:44 AM
I've got to be up at 7 to drive 3 hours north to the land of no internet.  Everybody enjoy the rest of Red Rocks->Shoreline->Gorge1.  I'll see you next Saturday night,  It's been real!
Missing the rest of the Rocks run....ouch. if you set your torrent downloader to rss the show tonight on etree you might have it when you wake up. it was up at 3:45 last night.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Gumbo72203 on August 01, 2009, 01:57:48 AM
oh my....


UNFINISHED FLUFFHEAD?!?!?!?!?  INTO PIPER?!?!?!?!?!?!    oh fuck me a duck and call me silly.


Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on August 01, 2009, 02:05:04 AM
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on August 01, 2009, 01:57:48 AM
oh my....


UNFINISHED FLUFFHEAD?!?!?!?!?  INTO PIPER?!?!?!?!?!?!    oh fuck me a duck and call me silly.



who-dang them's some fancy explitives
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Phreezer on August 01, 2009, 02:27:28 AM
looks like a great show, can't wait to hear the tapes
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Declan on August 01, 2009, 02:27:47 AM
woot woot.... they are liking joy and piper in the second set..
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Lifeboy on August 01, 2009, 02:28:36 AM
Quote from: Phreezer on August 01, 2009, 02:27:28 AM
looks like a great show, can't wait to hear the tapes
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on August 01, 2009, 02:35:34 AM
Quote from: Phreezer on August 01, 2009, 02:27:28 AM
looks like a great show, can't wait to hear the tapes
Tapes? what is this the nineteen ninety's. I can't wait to hear the Flac's. 8-)

No seriously, you're dead on. Set II look's fire. +k for me razzin' you. :beers: I'm three sheets to the wind so to speak.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Caravan2001 on August 01, 2009, 02:47:06 AM
Sick show!  back at the hotee macking on some food.....sick second set, stealing time ruled face...
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on August 01, 2009, 02:56:37 AM
Quote from: caravan2001 on August 01, 2009, 02:47:06 AM
Sick show!  back at the hotee macking on some food.....sick second set, stealing time ruled face...
really? Stealing Time was jammed out? I love the tune and would love to hear an amazing version in the morning.

edit: just noticed the h3tty spelling of hotel. +k.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: thechad on August 01, 2009, 03:07:15 AM
Show is up on LP.com.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on August 01, 2009, 03:12:09 AM
Quote from: thechad on August 01, 2009, 03:07:15 AM
Show is up on LP.com.
damn, disc 2 is tracked to be 29 minutes long.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: jedifunk on August 01, 2009, 03:21:51 AM
quick review:  meh 1st set.... tremendous 2nd set.

crosseyed!  the segue into it was epic funk.  the jam had everything... funk, soaring, rock... awesome

late
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on August 01, 2009, 03:23:40 AM
Quote from: jedifunk on August 01, 2009, 03:21:51 AM
quick review:  meh 1st set.... tremendous 2nd set.

crosseyed!  the segue into it was epic funk.  the jam had everything... funk, soaring, rock... awesome

late
Damn, I'm starting off with set II tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: flow00 on August 01, 2009, 03:24:25 AM
Quote from: jedifunk on August 01, 2009, 03:21:51 AM
quick review:  meh 1st set.... tremendous 2nd set.

crosseyed!  the segue into it was epic funk.  the jam had everything... funk, soaring, rock... awesome

late

Thanks for the update. I can't wait to hear this one. I wasn't impressed with last night, but this setlist looks great.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: guyforget on August 01, 2009, 03:27:47 AM
i want to hear soam and tweezer again first

then ill listen to drowned > crosseyed

but melt and tweezer are the two i want to here again first
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: thechad on August 01, 2009, 03:44:40 AM
And now Set I (possibly part I?) is now up on No Spoilers.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Gol D. Roger on August 01, 2009, 05:55:30 AM
And TaylorC again  :-D
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=527176
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Igbo on August 01, 2009, 07:41:01 AM
Driving into work this morning and reviewed the setlist...saw the 1st 3 songs of the 1st set and said "whoa, thats a hell of a way to start :clap:"

But then saw the set list for 2nd set, drowned>crosseyed!!!!! THAT's a hell of a way to start.  :rockout:
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on August 01, 2009, 08:59:05 AM
2nd set looks epic. Can't wait to hear it!!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on August 01, 2009, 09:44:14 AM
So I took an ambien last night to help me get to sleep.  Crashed out at about 2ish I think.  I guess I woke up at some point late last night/early this morning and downloaded the SBD FLACS of last nights show from what.cd.  I don't remember it at all :lol: :lol:  :clap:

I've heard of the Ambien sleep driving and sleep cooking.  Now we got some sleep downloading :phish:
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on August 01, 2009, 09:48:55 AM
Damn. I should taken one of them things too.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on August 01, 2009, 09:51:46 AM
And then I totally got up at 9 and seized the morning
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/whyweigh/photo-24.jpg?t=1249133556)
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on August 01, 2009, 09:53:06 AM
brb. must have bacon.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: birdman on August 01, 2009, 09:57:08 AM
Listened to set I in the car on the way to the airport this morning.
Just finished DL II.
This is going to make the flight MUCH more interesting.
Cant wait to sink my teeth into this juicy set!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whatapiper on August 01, 2009, 10:09:47 AM
looks like i had to leave one show too early, until tonights show that is :roll:

has anyone compared the LP to last leg? any difference there or the same.  if same I'm not going to spend any extra $$ til they remaster a few....

where was Fluffhead unfinished? i dont have time to listen, im off for this catering that kept me away from last nights show...
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on August 01, 2009, 11:08:53 AM
I bought the live phish download when I woke up this morning.  I'm on my up to northern maine, and can't wait to listen to the 2nd set when I get there.  No Phish is allowed in the car.  We did listen to some Old and in the Way though!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on August 01, 2009, 11:09:47 AM
I gotta say, this 2nd set is the best Phish I have heard in a long time. Trey is on fire!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PhishPhan on August 01, 2009, 11:19:22 AM
Quote from: whatapiper on August 01, 2009, 10:09:47 AM
where was Fluffhead unfinished? i dont have time to listen, im off for this catering that kept me away from last nights show...

It cuts off about two minutes after the final "FLUFFHEAD!".
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PhishPhan on August 01, 2009, 11:19:58 AM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on August 01, 2009, 11:09:47 AM
I gotta say, this 2nd set is the best Phish I have heard in a long time. Trey is on fire!

Indeed, and I love the tone.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistuhfry on August 01, 2009, 11:54:09 AM
Is it just me or are there hints at DEG during the "Arrival" of Fluffhead right before the segue into Piper???

and btw, Happy Jerry Day!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on August 01, 2009, 11:55:24 AM
Just wakeing up and I've got Taylorc's source in my completed folder from utorrent. It's gonna be a good day.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: JPhishman on August 01, 2009, 12:37:59 PM
Wow y'all this second set was serious.... I think I can honestly say that it was the best set I've seen them play live. (First show 7/12/03) Beat the pants off Alpine and Creek.... the transitions were solid, the nasty funk, the mix of new and old. Just wow... The Drowned>Crosseyed and Tweezer blew me away..... I'll be spending the next day or so with family but will definitely have more to say when I get back home Sunday and listen back. Long Live the :phish: :rockout: :beers:
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on August 01, 2009, 12:39:18 PM
Tweezer sounds very 'Reba-chill' like around 7 minutes in. Give it a listen
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VDB on August 01, 2009, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: PhishPhan on August 01, 2009, 11:19:22 AM
Quote from: whatapiper on August 01, 2009, 10:09:47 AM
where was Fluffhead unfinished? i dont have time to listen, im off for this catering that kept me away from last nights show...

It cuts off about two minutes after the final "FLUFFHEAD!".

So the "solo" was truncated? Well that's the best dang part of the song. I haven't listened yet. I hope the > was well done at least.

Also, side note, I notice on LP the Drowned isn't broken up into song/jam as they normally do for covers ... Xeyed is ... wuddup with that?
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on August 01, 2009, 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: VoodooBrew on August 01, 2009, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: PhishPhan on August 01, 2009, 11:19:22 AM
Quote from: whatapiper on August 01, 2009, 10:09:47 AM
where was Fluffhead unfinished? i dont have time to listen, im off for this catering that kept me away from last nights show...

It cuts off about two minutes after the final "FLUFFHEAD!".

So the "solo" was truncated? Well that's the best dang part of the song. I haven't listened yet. I hope the > was well done at least.

Also, side note, I notice on LP the Drowned isn't broken up into song/jam as they normally do for covers ... Xeyed is ... wuddup with that?
I think they only track a '*name of city here* jam' when the song leaves any recognizable structure.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 01, 2009, 01:10:37 PM
 :banana:

I haven't had a chance to listen yet, but all these good reviews coming in are already gettin me dancing!

I CANT F'N WAIT FOR SHORELINE! (AND EVEN MORE SO, THE GORGE!)
:wtu:

Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on August 01, 2009, 01:57:14 PM
Quote from: mistuhfry on August 01, 2009, 11:54:09 AM
Is it just me or are there hints at DEG during the "Arrival" of Fluffhead right before the segue into Piper???

and btw, Happy Jerry Day!

do you just copy a cdirksen tweet?
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on August 01, 2009, 02:00:46 PM
I love the Drowned>Crosseyed homage to Darien 2000.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rickjamesstjames on August 01, 2009, 02:24:04 PM
2nd set was great, I like Numberline coming out of another song, but I think they might put Fluff back on the shelf again after last night.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on August 01, 2009, 02:35:14 PM
Between last night's show and the jackson 5 anthology I just put on my ipod... I think I'm gonna have plenty of quality listenin' to do.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VDB on August 01, 2009, 02:37:30 PM
Quote from: Mistercharlie on August 01, 2009, 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: VoodooBrew on August 01, 2009, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: PhishPhan on August 01, 2009, 11:19:22 AM
Quote from: whatapiper on August 01, 2009, 10:09:47 AM
where was Fluffhead unfinished? i dont have time to listen, im off for this catering that kept me away from last nights show...

It cuts off about two minutes after the final "FLUFFHEAD!".

So the "solo" was truncated? Well that's the best dang part of the song. I haven't listened yet. I hope the > was well done at least.

Also, side note, I notice on LP the Drowned isn't broken up into song/jam as they normally do for covers ... Xeyed is ... wuddup with that?
I think they only track a '*name of city here* jam' when the song leaves any recognizable structure.

I'm no expert on such things, but my assumption was that it has something to do with publishing rights for the song in question -- you notice in CD booklets the cover song is always "published by" the original artist's publishing company ... so splitting out the jam saves (in whatever sense that is) rights to the instrumental music for Phish. You notice, also, that this is only done with cover tunes, so it can't just be about delineating structured from unstructured jams. On the other hand, you notice with covers like Loving Cup, where there's extra music but it's basically just a long guitar solo, there's no separate tracking. So you may have something of a point there.

But like I say, only my assumptions. I just thought it was curious -- and trivial besides.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Scent of a Tuna on August 01, 2009, 02:37:59 PM
Quote from: blatboom on August 01, 2009, 02:00:46 PM
I love the Drowned>Crosseyed homage to Darien 2000.

It was wild, JustJezmund and I were talking about that show last night in the setlist thread during setbreak!! Its a pretty sick 1-2 punch to open up a set!   :beerbang:
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on August 01, 2009, 02:40:37 PM
that's next up on my playlist.  I can't decide whether I love this Split or hate it.. it's very weird.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: redrum on August 01, 2009, 03:19:20 PM
Quote from: blatboom on August 01, 2009, 02:40:37 PM
that's next up on my playlist.  I can't decide whether I love this Split or hate it.. it's very weird.

it's weird because the weather was making the band stretch out the jam and play more chaos than normal cuz the crew was stripping down gear while they were playing it (mostly pages keyboards 1 by 1). never seen that happen b4.

it looked like the rain was blowing in and getting everything wet.
at the moment i was saying they don't wanna stop playing this Melt jam cuz crew was all over the stage w/heavy wind & rain.

if they ended the song, it would have been an awkward "well, this sucks" (or something like that)
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: redrum on August 01, 2009, 03:32:33 PM
Quote from: VoodooBrew on August 01, 2009, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: PhishPhan on August 01, 2009, 11:19:22 AM

It cuts off about two minutes after the final "FLUFFHEAD!".

So the "solo" was truncated? Well that's the best dang part of the song. I haven't listened yet. I hope the > was well done at least.


it was done well, and also very interesting to see them take that path at that moment.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on August 01, 2009, 03:46:10 PM
Quote from: redrum on August 01, 2009, 03:19:20 PM
Quote from: blatboom on August 01, 2009, 02:40:37 PM
that's next up on my playlist.  I can't decide whether I love this Split or hate it.. it's very weird.

it's weird because the weather was making the band stretch out the jam and play more chaos than normal cuz the crew was stripping down gear while they were playing it (mostly pages keyboards 1 by 1). never seen that happen b4.

it looked like the rain was blowing in and getting everything wet.
at the moment i was saying they don't wanna stop playing this Melt jam cuz crew was all over the stage w/heavy wind & rain.

if they ended the song, it would have been an awkward "well, this sucks" (or something like that)

that's crazy.  thanks for the insight.
hopefully the weather holds up for you guys this weekend.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistuhfry on August 01, 2009, 03:59:53 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 01, 2009, 01:57:14 PM
Quote from: mistuhfry on August 01, 2009, 11:54:09 AM
Is it just me or are there hints at DEG during the "Arrival" of Fluffhead right before the segue into Piper???

and btw, Happy Jerry Day!

do you just copy a cdirksen tweet?

actually i was unaware of what cdirksen said, did he agree?  thank you for hating on me & my apologies for posting... i thought "paugers" were decent
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VDB on August 01, 2009, 04:30:52 PM
Quote from: redrum on August 01, 2009, 03:32:33 PM
Quote from: VoodooBrew on August 01, 2009, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: PhishPhan on August 01, 2009, 11:19:22 AM

It cuts off about two minutes after the final "FLUFFHEAD!".

So the "solo" was truncated? Well that's the best dang part of the song. I haven't listened yet. I hope the > was well done at least.


it was done well, and also very interesting to see them take that path at that moment.

Good to hear. I haven't gotten that far into set 2 yet. But holy mother of god this Crosseyed is excellent.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: ytowndan on August 01, 2009, 05:33:18 PM
Jim - Nothing special, but it's always a nice opener.

Chalk - A nice rocker to get the energy going, and that's exactly what it did.  Well played.

Gin - Really nice.  It really feels like they're starting to get comfortable with "getting out there" again.  Even though it didn't really leave the general theme they had some nice full-band jamming going on.  Everyone seemed to be listening to each other, and playing off of each other pretty well.  Nothing ground breaking, yet it was a solid version.

TTE - It sure did.

Lawn Boy - Page crooned.

Water In The Sky - There was.  Fast version. 

Stealing Time - Ocelot is getting up there, but I still think this is my favorite of the new tunes.  It's close though.  Pretty well played.  I'd be happy to get this one in a first set. 

Melt - Very chaotic and kind of cool at times, but it never really built up to anything, IMO.  But, in their defense it was getting wet on the stage, and they had crew members up there tearing down some of the gear, so that could have distracted them.

Drowned - They're quite predictable in a storm, huh? :wink:  The jam starts out with tons of energy, and gets the mood going.  As soon as it slows down a bit they flawlessly segue into ->

C&P - That was an awesome segue!  The jam starts off with some pretty thick funk.  I like what they're doing right around 1:15 in the "Morrison Jam".  They kinda slow it down so they can find their groove.  They take a new direction about 4 min in, and they pick up the pace.  Trey starts tearing it up a couple min later.  Some nice organ work by Page as it slowly melts into...

Joy - Sorry, but I don't care for this tune (even though it's my song too!)  Bad placement.  It reminds me of when they followed Mike's with Albuquerque on 6/28/00. 

Tweezer - Boo ya!  Spacey start to the jam.  Nice effects going on.  I really like what they did in between 6:50 and 7:15.  They were really playing off of each other.  It gets pretty crazy about a min and a half later.  It's nice the way they keep jumping back to the same theme.  It demonstrates focused playing.  They change the direction in the end, and then they slam into...

BDTNL - I like this in the second set.  It gives them kind of a "breather".  Not that it's super short or boring, but it's straight forward, and it doesn't require tons of thinking.  It gives them a chance to clear their heads and just play.  This one got kind of interesting for a min (about half way through the jam). 

Fluff - Awesome! You can tell they're really liking this one.  Fourth time since they've been back, but who would complain about that?  A couple rough spots, but no major flubs or anything like that.  I do kinda hear something that reminds me of DEG right before the segue into Piper.  I might not have noticed it if it wasn't mentioned earlier. 


Piper - Pretty rockin.  Nothing out of the ordinary.  Nice little "Page segue" into...

ADITL - Great way to cap off a great set! 

Suzy/Tweprise - A perfect encore. 

All in all I thought the first set was kinda weak, but the second set had some epic moments in it.  My highlights were: Drowned -> C&P & Tweezer. 


Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: sprobeck on August 01, 2009, 05:57:06 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 01, 2009, 05:33:18 PM
Jim - Nothing special, but it's always a nice opener.

Chalk - A nice rocker to get the energy going, and that's exactly what it did.  Well played.

Gin - Really nice.  It really feels like they're starting to get comfortable with "getting out there" again.  Even though it didn't really leave the general theme they had some nice full-band jamming going on.  Everyone seemed to be listening to each other, and playing off of each other pretty well.  Nothing ground breaking, yet it was a solid version.

TTE - It sure did.

Lawn Boy - Page crooned.

Water In The Sky - There was.  Fast version. 

Stealing Time - Ocelot is getting up there, but I still think this is my favorite of the new tunes.  It's close though.  Pretty well played.  I'd be happy to get this one in a first set. 

Melt - Very chaotic and kind of cool at times, but it never really built up to anything, IMO.  But, in their defense it was getting wet on the stage, and they had crew members up there tearing down some of the gear, so that could have distracted them.

Drowned - They're quite predictable in a storm, huh? :wink:  The jam starts out with tons of energy, and gets the mood going.  As soon as it slows down a bit they flawlessly segue into ->

C&P - That was an awesome segue!  The jam starts off with some pretty thick funk.  I like what they're doing right around 1:15 in the "Morrison Jam".  They kinda slow it down so they can find their groove.  They take a new direction about 4 min in, and they pick up the pace.  Trey starts tearing it up a couple min later.  Some nice organ work by Page as it slowly melts into...

Joy - Sorry, but I don't care for this tune (even though it's my song too!)  Bad placement.  It reminds me of when they followed Mike's with Albuquerque on 6/28/00. 

Tweezer - Boo ya!  Spacey start to the jam.  Nice effects going on.  I really like what they did in between 6:50 and 7:15.  They were really playing off of each other.  It gets pretty crazy about a min and a half later.  It's nice the way they keep jumping back to the same theme.  It demonstrates focused playing.  They change the direction in the end, and then they slam into...

BDTNL - I like this in the second set.  It gives them kind of a "breather".  Not that it's super short or boring, but it's straight forward, and it doesn't require tons of thinking.  It gives them a chance to clear their heads and just play.  This one got kind of interesting for a min (about half way through the jam). 

Fluff - Awesome! You can tell they're really liking this one.  Fourth time since they've been back, but who would complain about that?  A couple rough spots, but no major flubs or anything like that.  I do kinda hear something that reminds me of DEG right before the segue into Piper.  I might not have noticed it if it wasn't mentioned earlier. 


Piper - Pretty rockin.  Nothing out of the ordinary.  Nice little "Page segue" into...

ADITL - Great way to cap off a great set! 

Suzy/Tweprise - A perfect encore. 

All in all I thought the first set was kinda weak, but the second set had some epic moments in it.  My highlights were: Drowned -> C&P & Tweezer. 




Show rating?
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 01, 2009, 06:22:55 PM
Just listened to the Melt and entire second set and I would probablt say this is the best show played this year :banana:

I know a lot of people will probably hate on this melt but I LOOOVVED IT! So fucking dissonant and weird, totally original jam..

the second set pretty much smokes from start to finish, the drowned>C&P segue is flawless and the C&P is SO SICK! Trey is on fire...

2009's best of versions of melt, tweeezr, drowned, C&P, and bdtnl IMO

Oh, and that short Fluffhead jam before Piper =  :-o SO SICK and def some DEG teases

Listening to this just got me SO psyched for the rest of the tour :wtu: :wtu: :wtu:
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: McGrupp on August 01, 2009, 06:29:25 PM
This Crosseyed is HOT. Some of the tightest phish i've ever heard.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VDB on August 01, 2009, 07:17:49 PM
Just listened to Tweezer and WOW. Between the C&P and the Tweezer I don't think we'd heard anything like this in 3.0 so far. Exciting!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 01, 2009, 07:18:03 PM
I give this show a C.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 01, 2009, 07:24:13 PM
Quote from: VoodooBrew on August 01, 2009, 07:17:49 PM
Just listened to Tweezer and WOW. Between the C&P and the Tweezer I don't think we'd heard anything like this in 3.0 so far. Exciting!

QFT!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: roggae on August 01, 2009, 07:26:01 PM
so far i have listened to the first set through TTE and second set through tweezer.  i think it's a solid offering.  i would have been a happy camper with this one.  looking forward to chicago and hanging with the 'paug at mandi's.  who's got my mollie???

LOL :phish: 
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on August 01, 2009, 07:36:32 PM
Quote from: mistuhfry on August 01, 2009, 03:59:53 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 01, 2009, 01:57:14 PM
Quote from: mistuhfry on August 01, 2009, 11:54:09 AM
Is it just me or are there hints at DEG during the "Arrival" of Fluffhead right before the segue into Piper???

and btw, Happy Jerry Day!

do you just copy a cdirksen tweet?

actually i was unaware of what cdirksen said, did he agree?  thank you for hating on me & my apologies for posting... i thought "paugers" were decent

damn, he took that pretty hard   :roll:

wheres tonights live setlist thread  :?
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: okelnard on August 01, 2009, 07:44:03 PM
Quote from: mistuhfry on August 01, 2009, 11:54:09 AM
Is it just me or are there hints at DEG during the "Arrival" of Fluffhead right before the segue into Piper???

and btw, Happy Jerry Day!

YES!!!! I was listening earlier today and thought I caught some DEG.... nice, I'm not losing it (or at least not by myself).... thanks for hearing this too!!!

Fluff was only missing the very tail end, not complete certainly, but not as unfinished as might be thought.

Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: CatchYourBreath on August 01, 2009, 07:54:11 PM
I'll take my chances on being made fun of, but how the heck can I open flac files? Is there a download somewhere to fix Windows' attitude problem?

I'm still new to this whole thing and its making me  :frustrated:
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: okelnard on August 01, 2009, 07:58:31 PM
Quote from: CatchYourBreath on August 01, 2009, 07:54:11 PM
I'll take my chances on being made fun of, but how the heck can I open flac files? Is there a download somewhere to fix Windows' attitude problem?

I'm still new to this whole thing and its making me  :frustrated:

no no no... no worries... I use the flac frontend and I have to open as administrator (right click the icon) to get it to work on my Vista powered PC... That or Trader's Little Helper works w/o much attitude... I know there is a help thread somewhere that should have more details... good luck!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Superfreakie on August 01, 2009, 07:59:02 PM
Quote from: CatchYourBreath on August 01, 2009, 07:54:11 PM
I'll take my chances on being made fun of, but how the heck can I open flac files? Is there a download somewhere to fix Windows' attitude problem?

I'm still new to this whole thing and its making me  :frustrated:

I am writing you a message and will send it to you with the details all laid out, that way we won't hijack this thread.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: CatchYourBreath on August 01, 2009, 08:00:03 PM
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: khalpin on August 01, 2009, 08:09:56 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 01, 2009, 05:33:18 PM
Jim - Nothing special, but it's always a nice opener.

Chalk - A nice rocker to get the energy going, and that's exactly what it did.  Well played.

Gin - Really nice.  It really feels like they're starting to get comfortable with "getting out there" again.  Even though it didn't really leave the general theme they had some nice full-band jamming going on.  Everyone seemed to be listening to each other, and playing off of each other pretty well.  Nothing ground breaking, yet it was a solid version.

TTE - It sure did.

Lawn Boy - Page crooned.

Water In The Sky - There was.  Fast version.  

Stealing Time - Ocelot is getting up there, but I still think this is my favorite of the new tunes.  It's close though.  Pretty well played.  I'd be happy to get this one in a first set.  

Melt - Very chaotic and kind of cool at times, but it never really built up to anything, IMO.  But, in their defense it was getting wet on the stage, and they had crew members up there tearing down some of the gear, so that could have distracted them.

Drowned - They're quite predictable in a storm, huh? :wink:  The jam starts out with tons of energy, and gets the mood going.  As soon as it slows down a bit they flawlessly segue into ->

C&P - That was an awesome segue!  The jam starts off with some pretty thick funk.  I like what they're doing right around 1:15 in the "Morrison Jam".  They kinda slow it down so they can find their groove.  They take a new direction about 4 min in, and they pick up the pace.  Trey starts tearing it up a couple min later.  Some nice organ work by Page as it slowly melts into...

Joy - Sorry, but I don't care for this tune (even though it's my song too!)  Bad placement.  It reminds me of when they followed Mike's with Albuquerque on 6/28/00.  

Tweezer - Boo ya!  Spacey start to the jam.  Nice effects going on.  I really like what they did in between 6:50 and 7:15.  They were really playing off of each other.  It gets pretty crazy about a min and a half later.  It's nice the way they keep jumping back to the same theme.  It demonstrates focused playing.  They change the direction in the end, and then they slam into...

BDTNL - I like this in the second set.  It gives them kind of a "breather".  Not that it's super short or boring, but it's straight forward, and it doesn't require tons of thinking.  It gives them a chance to clear their heads and just play.  This one got kind of interesting for a min (about half way through the jam).  

Fluff - Awesome! You can tell they're really liking this one.  Fourth time since they've been back, but who would complain about that?  A couple rough spots, but no major flubs or anything like that.  I do kinda hear something that reminds me of DEG right before the segue into Piper.  I might not have noticed it if it wasn't mentioned earlier.  


Piper - Pretty rockin.  Nothing out of the ordinary.  Nice little "Page segue" into...

ADITL - Great way to cap off a great set!  

Suzy/Tweprise - A perfect encore.  

All in all I thought the first set was kinda weak, but the second set had some epic moments in it.  My highlights were: Drowned -> C&P & Tweezer.  




Thanks for the showclub-style reviews, Dan.  I've enjoyed both of them quite a bit.  And I totally agree with you about the Gin.  I was surprised more people haven't mentioned it.  I really enjoyed that bit.  Not top 10 or anything but real, real nice.  And like everyone else has said, the Drowned > C&P segue is probably the best 3.0 segue yet.  And the C&P (or Morrison jam) took me somewhere I haven't been yet in 2009.  Maybe it's the Saturday night buzz, but after hearing the last 2 nights, I think they've improved very noticeably since a month and a half ago.  Getting quite excited for what's in store.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: okelnard on August 01, 2009, 08:17:54 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on August 01, 2009, 07:59:02 PM
Quote from: CatchYourBreath on August 01, 2009, 07:54:11 PM
I'll take my chances on being made fun of, but how the heck can I open flac files? Is there a download somewhere to fix Windows' attitude problem?

I'm still new to this whole thing and its making me  :frustrated:

I am writing you a message and will send it to you with the details all laid out, that way we won't hijack this thread.

you da man superfreakie!  +k for your more detailed follow up and +k to Catch for her patience!

Oh, and nice review ytown... I do hear the DEG / King Crimsonish jam as Fluff heads into Piper for about 2 measures.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on August 01, 2009, 08:30:33 PM
Quote from: roggae on August 01, 2009, 07:26:01 PM
so far i have listened to the first set through TTE and second set through tweezer.  i think it's a solid offering.  i would have been a happy camper with this one.  looking forward to chicago and hanging with the 'paug at mandi's.  who's got my mollie???

LOL :phish:  

hoorah!!!

you're coming to my house?!?!?!?!
let me know when you get in town, i'll get you here :D

p.s. i'm pooped.
i haven't even gotten to listen to this show yet... the great urban race kicked my ass today.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: ytowndan on August 01, 2009, 09:25:16 PM
Quote from: khalpin on August 01, 2009, 08:09:56 PM
Thanks for the showclub-style reviews, Dan.  I've enjoyed both of them quite a bit.  And I totally agree with you about the Gin.  I was surprised more people haven't mentioned it.  I really enjoyed that bit.  Not top 10 or anything but real, real nice.  And like everyone else has said, the Drowned > C&P segue is probably the best 3.0 segue yet.  And the C&P (or Morrison jam) took me somewhere I haven't been yet in 2009.  Maybe it's the Saturday night buzz, but after hearing the last 2 nights, I think they've improved very noticeably since a month and a half ago.  Getting quite excited for what's in store.

Heh, I've been wondering the same thing as well.  If it's just that I've been in a great mood, or if the shows really are that much better.  I honestly think that they have improved over the last month or so, but I think the biggest thing (in my case) is that for once, I've been able to listen to these shows without uber-high expectations.  I tried really hard not to set my hopes too high with the first leg, but when it came down to it, I just couldn't help it.  But, when I've been listening to these last two shows, I've approached it with a "it is what it is" kind of attitude, and they've been much more enjoyable. 
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VDB on August 02, 2009, 01:12:36 AM
Quote from: khalpin on August 01, 2009, 08:09:56 PM
Thanks for the showclub-style reviews, Dan.  I've enjoyed both of them quite a bit.  And I totally agree with you about the Gin.  I was surprised more people haven't mentioned it.  I really enjoyed that bit.  Not top 10 or anything but real, real nice.  And like everyone else has said, the Drowned > C&P segue is probably the best 3.0 segue yet.  And the C&P (or Morrison jam) took me somewhere I haven't been yet in 2009.  Maybe it's the Saturday night buzz, but after hearing the last 2 nights, I think they've improved very noticeably since a month and a half ago.  Getting quite excited for what's in store.

I think you're both right -- I've only listened to it once, but I'll tentatively say this Gin is my favorite of 3.0 so far -- though unfortunately that's only saying so much because I'm a huge Gin fan and this year's Gins have disappointed me. But this particular one is pretty nice and certainly strays further from the mold than what we've heard so far.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Gumbo72203 on August 02, 2009, 01:25:28 AM
holy Chalkdust.  wow.  they spun that one up realllll tight and let it blast off unwinding in a frenzy.


and yay for Stealing Time!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Superfreakie on August 02, 2009, 02:16:59 AM
I still can't stomach TTE, no matter how hard I try. What is the over/under on when Trey wakes the fuck up. If he would only remove certain obvious sections (melody ooooh shelter in the darkness) and change a few lyrics here and there, I might be able to digest it for there are a couple parts that have grown on me. I am however overjoyed to see that it has been relegated to first set status. Take that TTE. Now lets see it get wiped off the map a la save the date. C'mon now, save this for your philharmonic forays.

NICE Crosseyed, Mike lays down a wonderful roaming groove.
NICE Torture
Mike was all over the Bathtub NICE
Tweezer is  :-o

Mike ruled this show from start to finish and the aforementioned songs he took out back to the woodshed for a serious can of whoopass.

Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on August 02, 2009, 02:28:47 AM
This tweezer fuckin' rules face. It's got a bit of 'Reba-chill' to it, then it fritters into BDTNL. :beerbang:
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on August 02, 2009, 02:30:47 AM
Quote from: Superfreakie on August 02, 2009, 02:16:59 AM
I still can't stomach TTE, no matter how hard I try. What is the over/under on when Trey wakes the fuck up. If he would only remove certain obvious sections (melody ooooh shelter in the darkness) and change a few lyrics here and there, I might be able to digest it for there are a couple parts that have grown on me. I am however overjoyed to see that it has been relegated to first set status. Take that TTE. Now lets see it get wiped off the map a la save the date. C'mon now, save this for your philharmonic forays.
I think this is the only redemeable section Instrumentaly. Lyricly the worst section. I say make it a solo instrumental ala The Landlady.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: HammondOrganism on August 02, 2009, 02:59:28 AM
Does anyone hear Trey play Mind Left Body type parts in this tweezer? Tipetoo pointed it out to me, and while I dont think it is note for note, Trey might have done it on purpose since Jerry's Bday was the next night.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Superfreakie on August 02, 2009, 03:03:56 AM
Quote from: Mistercharlie on August 02, 2009, 02:30:47 AM
Quote from: Superfreakie on August 02, 2009, 02:16:59 AM
I still can't stomach TTE, no matter how hard I try. What is the over/under on when Trey wakes the fuck up. If he would only remove certain obvious sections (melody ooooh shelter in the darkness) and change a few lyrics here and there, I might be able to digest it for there are a couple parts that have grown on me. I am however overjoyed to see that it has been relegated to first set status. Take that TTE. Now lets see it get wiped off the map a la save the date. C'mon now, save this for your philharmonic forays.
I think this is the only redemeable section Instrumentaly. Lyricly the worst section. I say make it a solo instrumental ala The Landlady.

Oops, I meant to drop that ( ) in reference to the lyrics (w.o.r.s.t. e.v.e.r.).
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: messengerbird on August 02, 2009, 03:05:57 AM
SICK SHOW!!!!!  :crazy:  :crazy:  :crazy:

Just when you think it can't get any better.
Can't wait to post all the pics we took when we get back. :-D

Hopefully Cali has a faster internet connection.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on August 02, 2009, 09:56:05 AM
Quote from: swimmingcactus22 on August 02, 2009, 02:59:28 AM
Does anyone hear Trey play Mind Left Body type parts in this tweezer? Tipetoo pointed it out to me, and while I dont think it is note for note, Trey might have done it on purpose since Jerry's Bday was the next night.
I was calling it a 'Reba-chill-like' jam, but I'll give it another listen, could be possible.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: GBL on August 02, 2009, 11:23:46 AM
just got chills from the -> between Drowned and C&P..
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 02, 2009, 12:12:57 PM
Upon second listen, this Tweezer still kicks ass.  The best tweezer 3.0 has seen yet!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: thechad on August 02, 2009, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: GBL on August 02, 2009, 11:23:46 AM
just got chills from the -> between Drowned and C&P..


Just listened up to the Tweezer, but this transition is def. the smoothest they've played in a long time.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Lifeboy on August 02, 2009, 03:13:07 PM
Quote from: swimmingcactus22 on August 02, 2009, 02:59:28 AM
Does anyone hear Trey play Mind Left Body type parts in this tweezer? Tipetoo pointed it out to me, and while I dont think it is note for note, Trey might have done it on purpose since Jerry's Bday was the next night.

well since no one else has anything to say about it, i must say trey definately hits some mlb-esque licks. Does anybody else remotely agree with this?  :|

Quote from: WhatstheUse? on August 02, 2009, 12:12:57 PM
Upon second listen, this Tweezer still kicks ass.  The best tweezer 3.0 has seen yet!

Without a doubt.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Superfreakie on August 02, 2009, 03:38:54 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:C & P :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: flow00 on August 02, 2009, 04:22:46 PM
Quote from: blatboom on August 01, 2009, 02:00:46 PM
I love the Drowned>Crosseyed homage to Darien 2000.

But the Drowned>Crosseyed was much better in Darien. 
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on August 02, 2009, 04:26:59 PM
Quote from: flow00 on August 02, 2009, 04:22:46 PM
Quote from: blatboom on August 01, 2009, 02:00:46 PM
I love the Drowned>Crosseyed homage to Darien 2000.

But the Drowned>Crosseyed was much better in Darien. 

agree
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: susep on August 02, 2009, 04:43:43 PM

31July2009 - Morrison, CO


Source: Schoeps mk22> KCY> Schoeps VMS02IB> Apogee Mini-Me> SD 722 (@24bit/96kHz)
Location: Split 10', FOH Rail, Pointed at outside of stacks, 5-1/2' Stands

Transfer: SD 722> Samplitude SE 9.1.1(resample/dither)> CDWave> flac(16/44.1)
Taped, Transferred & Seeded by: taylorc (08/01/2009)



I

Jim - I like Jim in both its exploratory fashion as well as its straight up type I style ala this opener, Mike letting his presence be known early, not a bad version, avg.

Chalk Dust - solid jam opening, high energy jam, again nothing too crazy but solid.

Gin - nice call Ikki!, estatic Page, "Autumn bell is ringing but they'll just have to wait..." jam opens aroun 4:40, nice thump by Mike, preety cool jam in the early stages, very active Mike, skip in recording? possibly second one Ive heard, there goes another?, weak engineering, jam has stayed mostly linear w/ Gin theme but still a rocking, consistent improv., Trey tries a trill series, Mike really holding everything along well, pleasant version, no real "x" factor but consistent.

Time Turns Elastic - slight Leslie sounding effect early before song proper, I'm in the "I like this song" camp, now in its second tour, reflections of a Vermont Autumn, probably written on Trey's 10 acres of trails, 8:00 in and still not much of any repeats in terms of the songs composition which is why I like it, its constantly changing(much like the title implies), lets see how the jam plays out, I really like the section near 10:20 onward, brief but solid outro energy.

Lawn Boy - lounge lizard style, perfect time to blaze, nice Mike solo, much more improvised, thank you Page.

Water In The Sky - nice summer tune, always a Cypress nod and response w/ "Everglades", glad to hear Page higher in the mix this time around, nice version.

Stealing Time - "memories of being free...", muddy Trey, similar to his PH tone, comes out of it, nice Page on his organ, good version.

Melt - so far this year I haven't been blown away by this tune/jam, lets see how this one evolves: solid opening jam, band quickly into it, definitely more atonal then most recent versions, everyone is going off but w/ out the Melt theme underneath, finally Page sounds off, jam goes back to the Melt theme but still continues to deviate heavily, Trey wanting to jump off and does, another cool jam evolves around 7:20, nice type II here, yes we have lift off!, I will say if there is one characterization of 2009 Phish jam style it is this kind of "the aliens are awake and lifting off" ala the most recent Indiana Jones movie, chanting, very improvised, jam is very different for a Melt which makes it interesting, its crazy to hear Phish play like this, they quickly segue back into the main Melt theme, strong ending, holy fucking shit!!!


II

Drowned - gulp after the 1st set ender, jam opens near 4:26 strong, Mike laying down some preety dope stuff like he's taking bass in general somewhere new and different, solid jam, Trey playing w/ gusto, great to hear, a more evolved Phish here, definite high energy presence, active Fish, nothing too crazy but very excellent jamming, solid chordal jam near end, Page on point, again great overall sound and improvisation, into

Crosseyed and Painless - preety sick segue, nice '95 into '96 Halloween cover duet, "still awake...", you can definitely hear the TH influence on Phish even before Fall '96, Trey opens jam near 4:05, Frippian tone, jam goes to funk, patient Trey, Mike and Fish creating a great launchpad, Trey adding tasty leads around 5:50 then chunks out a nice rythym, Mike adding his usual brilliance but keeping things more on the low end for the most part, more Leslie effect by Page, non-forced improvisation, patient build, cool jam near 8:00, Page dancing on the ivories, Trey chords solidly, jam acclerates, improvised chording by Trey, Mike responds, Trey now on the high end, great dynamics by all, nice high energy Gin like crescendo, again much like the Phish of old, nice high energy jamming, type I but very good, into hovering outro, nice, overall very good version into

Joy - after 3 excellent jams this isn't nearly as offensive in terms of flow, and yes after those jams I'm sure everyone is very happy, nice placement.

Tweezer - focused opening jam, again Trey on rythym right out of the jam, Mike and Page right there, Page w/ Tower Jam-esque playing/trippyness, Mike very much in front, interesting chromatic runs by Trey, definitely a different sounding Tweezer jam, hearing empirical jams/ideas, jam drops at 9:26, nice stop, re-up back into jam proper, 10:13 begins strong outro jam, mellow jam, into

BDTNL - nice choice after preety mellow space, solid jam, has potential and really is strecthed out nicely, very fast pace but nice, quick interplay between Mike and Trey, almost w/ Birds type pace, back into theme, nice h/e outro section, probably the best version played thus far.

Fluffhead - solid, unfinished nicely, ser DEG like jam into

Piper - Trey leads out around 2:52, looks short on paper but like the Jones Beach version don't be decieved by timings, not a great opening jam, Trey eager to back into firing mode, everyone playing well w/ h/e but jam isn't ascending necessarily, again tremendous efforts by all, kind of muddy jam ala Woodstock Hendrix, Trey tries picking up the pieces rthymically but jam continues until 7:22, more collective sounding here, aggressive Trey, nice Page piano outro, into

ADITL - nice segue, interesting set ender.


E

Suzy - one more throw down, good jam.

Tweeprize - perfect ending.


Overall a very good Phish show, high energy throughout w/ some nice surprises in improvisation the Melt being the first ex.  I liked the overall flow of both sets although the ending of set 2 didn't end w/ a bang per se, it was a unique sequence.  Most of everything was played w/ great energy and enthusiasm, this show rivaling 19June for best of '09, so far.  My highlights are the TTE, Melt, Drowned > Crosseyed.  I also liked the BDTNL and the Gin but the Tweezer was just ok imo, definitely a lot of variation but nothing that grabbed my ear particularly.  The recording is slightly meh, I'm sure other sources are circulating already.  Grade: A-/B+
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: flow00 on August 02, 2009, 05:22:55 PM
The first set was disappointing. A 17-minute TTE? Nothing redemptive in it. Why a band with stellar judgment on song selection in the past could choose this to play AT ALL blows my mind. Unlike most buzz kill songs, this one stretches on a mind-blowing 17 minutes. We're lucky to get a 15-minute song in a second set anymore, though that looks to be changing.

With that said, the set ended with a very nice Split Open. It plunged into rarely explored, psychedelic territories for 3.0. By far my favorite Split Open of the year.

The second set was an entirely different story than the first set. It gets my vote for the best second set of 3.0. Best versions of Drowned, C&P and Tweezer of the year.  

Drowned: While this is my favorite this year, it doesn't rank high on the all-time Drowned list: 12/11/97, 12/12/99 & 9/14/00 -- All in New York or New England.
C&P: The segue from Drowned was perfect. The song kicks off with some swingy funk and very involved interaction among everyone. Trey and Page eventually slow it down with great interplay and a strong presence from Mike. A little redundancy slips in while Trey noodles around the 9-minute mark. For me, the jam really ended there.  It was no 11/2/96 but not much can be. Then comes the sweet segue into Joy.
Joy: This could be a buzz kill, but not in this placement, following some heavy jamming. Say what you will, I love this song. You can tell Trey is really sincere when he sings. How can he not be? I choked back a tear while listening to this as I watered my garden.
Tweezer: I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this version lands in the top 15 ever. And it gets my vote for the first true top-shelf jam of 3.0. The effects at 5 minutes coupled with Mike's chunky bass are glorious to my ears. This is important: After the effects are sprinkled throughout, never once did it feel like anyone was headed into different directions. They were locked in. This was tight and exploratory at the same time. It was Phish really connecting for the first time for me in a long time. And you can tell this is new Phish. They're not recycling some December1995 jam; this has a very distinct sound. The song constantly changes and evolves so seamlessly. The jam, with the effects, remind me of a few minutes of the Twist Around from Hampton and Hood from Jones Beach this year. I really hope that is the direction Phish heads this year.
Backwards: Ugh. This is among my least favorite songs. For me, it interrupted a great set with "Happy, happy, oh my friends." It's cheesy and riddle with so many tiring cliches. I don't even like the jam. This and TTE are very unfortunate.
Fluffhead: Fluffheads, to me, are just the same compositions played over and over again and are often distinguished only by how tightly or loosely they are played. I love the composition but can only listen to it so many time. I did like the segue into Piper because it broke up the expected.
Piper: Timing of lyrics were flubbed. It was a decent version. I can't wait to hear the first really good Piper in 3.0.
Suzie: Mike funks this out with some nice syrupy bass effects for a little, but this is by no way exploratory. I like Trey setting up the segue with a little ambiance to bring it down. Average Suzie with the few anomalies.
Tweezer Rep.:  Spirited and energetic as always.

Despite some of the negative feelings, I really liked this show. Still waiting for the consistently good Phish to return. But this is a nice start.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on August 02, 2009, 07:48:07 PM
Quote from: mistuhfry on August 01, 2009, 03:59:53 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 01, 2009, 01:57:14 PM
Quote from: mistuhfry on August 01, 2009, 11:54:09 AM
Is it just me or are there hints at DEG during the "Arrival" of Fluffhead right before the segue into Piper???

and btw, Happy Jerry Day!

do you just copy a cdirksen tweet?

actually i was unaware of what cdirksen said, did he agree?  thank you for hating on me & my apologies for posting... i thought "paugers" were decent

A simple 'no' would have sufficed.
To suggest that one shares the opinion of Charlie Dirksen with respect to Phish analysis is not hate.

No one was hating and you haven't begun to see indecent (in this thread.)

Here's the hate:
Perhaps you should go work out your thin-skin issues with your therapist before you venture onto the internets.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 03, 2009, 09:34:24 PM
I give this show a C.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: phg on August 03, 2009, 09:46:37 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 03, 2009, 09:34:24 PM
I give this show a C.

:|

hmm, you must not have been there for that second set
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on August 03, 2009, 09:47:17 PM
Quote from: phg on August 03, 2009, 09:46:37 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 03, 2009, 09:34:24 PM
I give this show a C.

:|

hmm, you must not have been there for that second set


ignore his grades.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 03, 2009, 09:48:52 PM
Quote from: blatboom on August 03, 2009, 09:47:17 PM
Quote from: phg on August 03, 2009, 09:46:37 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 03, 2009, 09:34:24 PM
I give this show a C.

:|

hmm, you must not have been there for that second set


ignore his grades.



I give this post a C.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on August 03, 2009, 09:52:42 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 03, 2009, 09:48:52 PM
Quote from: blatboom on August 03, 2009, 09:47:17 PM
Quote from: phg on August 03, 2009, 09:46:37 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 03, 2009, 09:34:24 PM
I give this show a C.

:|

hmm, you must not have been there for that second set


ignore his grades.



I give this post a C.

see?
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 03, 2009, 09:53:43 PM
Quote from: blatboom on August 03, 2009, 09:52:42 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 03, 2009, 09:48:52 PM
Quote from: blatboom on August 03, 2009, 09:47:17 PM
Quote from: phg on August 03, 2009, 09:46:37 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 03, 2009, 09:34:24 PM
I give this show a C.

:|

hmm, you must not have been there for that second set


ignore his grades.



I give this post a C.

see?


I'm glad you stopped using the phrase "lame", blatboom.  That was really "lame" of you to do, when you called that thing "lame".
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on August 03, 2009, 09:59:57 PM
the C's are kinda "lame"
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 03, 2009, 10:00:22 PM
Quote from: blatboom on August 03, 2009, 09:59:57 PM
the C's are kinda "lame"

I give this post a C.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: cactusfan on August 03, 2009, 10:27:00 PM
experience-wise, this was my favorite show of the run.

being 4th row center probably helped.
the rain helped too, making the experience of a great set feel that much more earned.

i didn't find the first set 'meh' as some have. it worked for me. despite having to wait through TTE, which wow, that's a long song...
the rain started a little before stealing time, and began to get real during that song. the wind was blowing the boys' hair all over the place, and the cones of light illuminated the angled rain in very cool ways.

the awesome jam in SOAM was all about the rain. you could basically see trey 'playing' the rain, using its growing intensity to inform the jam. at this point people were coming out and putting tarps over amps etc.
rain was all over page's piano. the wind was crazy and the rain in the lights made it appear to raining much harder on stage than it was on us. but the rain was getting intense. i think the quick end to SOAM was required at that point. i was actually surprised they didn't cut it even shorter.

i found some cover during the setbreak. after about a half hour the wind quit and the rain began to taper off. i was worried we wouldn't be getting a second set.

second set was fucking awesome to witness. the band was so pumped at that point. everybody called drowned, but no one predicted that sweet segue into crosseyed. after joy i wondered which direction they were going to take this set. i was happy with their choice.

tweezer was awesome. i still haven't listened to anything since the shows, but it seemed like they were finally taking jams into new territory. they haven't fully arrived at where we all want them to be, but some mighty big steps were taken this run.

as the tweezer jam gets underway (as i recall), trey does his funky riffing for awhile and then breaks into these beautiful strumming chords, at which point page looks over all happy, loving it, and then trey falls back into his riffing, but the rest of the band isn't with him at all (not sure how this sounds on 'tape'), then he goes back to the chords, and then when he drops into the trippy riffing part, everyone's right there with him, and back and forth they go. i loved it!

BDTNL kind of killed my vibe for a bit. too damn happy hippyish for me, but the jam was nice enough.

i loved fluffhead. i though trey was going to just jam the shit out of the ending, did not expect the segue (rough) into piper. piper felt epic. i could have sworn it was twice as long! so it goes when you're there... great fun to watch trey wander around the stage talking to everyone as piper came to a close, and wondering what they're coming up with next. dropping everyone but page and going into day in the life was beautiful.

trey was literally jumping up and down during reprise. he was just so goddamned happy. it was great.

i've got some nice photos from this night i'll put up soon...
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whatapiper on August 04, 2009, 02:35:36 AM
this crosseyed really builds to an amazing finish, holy shit, this run has me giddy like a school boy.   

the segue from drowned to crosseyed is great but i think it has more pop as an opener, easily better than alpine, sounds like a different band.   the tweezer starts off a little strange but then business as usual...
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VA $l!m on August 04, 2009, 06:05:28 PM
i cant see how anybody could hate on TTE. it gives you more than enough time to hit the head and concessions and still get back to your seat b4 the next song starts.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 05, 2009, 03:49:48 PM
Quote from: VA slim on August 04, 2009, 06:05:28 PM
i cant see how anybody could hate on TTE. it gives you more than enough time to hit the head and concessions and still get back to your seat b4 the next song starts.

Haha.

What about when it closes a set tho?
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VA $l!m on August 05, 2009, 04:43:42 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 05, 2009, 03:49:48 PM
Quote from: VA slim on August 04, 2009, 06:05:28 PM
i cant see how anybody could hate on TTE. it gives you more than enough time to hit the head and concessions and still get back to your seat b4 the next song starts.

Haha.

What about when it closes a set tho?

even better. just like alaska on night three, any good late set piss break song allows the pros- ie me-- to get a good jump on the slackers that flood the restroom at setbreak.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Blaise on August 05, 2009, 05:47:17 PM
Only listened to 8/1 before this but that tweezer is real hot. About to listen to the piper now.

Interesting that this was a rain show bc I felt like creek benefited from the rain, musically, even though leaving sucked bc creek lot is the shit at night.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on August 07, 2009, 12:20:51 AM
Quote from: Blaise on August 05, 2009, 05:47:17 PM
Interesting that this was a rain show bc I felt like creek benefited from the rain, musically, even though leaving sucked bc creek lot is the shit at night.
QFMFT

Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Casey Lenahan on August 07, 2009, 06:39:16 AM
i think this show is one of the beast thus far
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: sls.stormyrider on August 07, 2009, 09:37:35 PM
strong show, especially Drowned >CEP, Tweezer, and Piper

I'm sure this has been said before, I thought Joy was a strange choice after CEP, and even though I like BDNL, it was a strange choice after Tweezer.

and, like others have said, Tweezer jam was getting going, could have / should have gone longer before the >
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: disco on August 08, 2009, 04:11:06 PM
On that rain comment, RR is a small stage with a very small roof compared to the creek. The rain was all over (& wind too) so I could see that melt suffering from the wind not benefitting. My wife liked this one the best of the run. 2 or 3 for me, thurs's set 2 was sweet too, all these second sets I guess : )
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VA $l!m on August 10, 2009, 05:09:55 PM
skimming through this show for the first time since being there, and i'm pleasantly surprised.
i've only skimmed the first three nights i saw, but i think this might be the winner as far as energy goes.
the tweezer def. had IT for a second, though page sorta flubbed out the jam...and i'll have to check but it sounded very familiar... ?same jam as Camden?
anyway, drownedCrosseyed was pretty tight, and since CE&P was one of only two songs that i saw for the first time besides the new stuff, well it did the trick for me big time. yes, its becoming evident today that i am a complete whore for Fishman.

\...anyway, then there's the SpLit Open. its always been one of my top five fav songs, but i'm really starting to think its my fav. period. now, for this version...well, i really want to listen to it a few more times b4 i completely give it my seal of approval, but after ragin in the rain live and going through the recording once i say its LEgit. it teaters on the edge of disaster about as close as you can get, but thats the point of the jam, and i think they nailed it personally. might be my pick for FAV jam of the run.  :rockout:
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VDB on August 11, 2009, 10:39:22 AM
Quote from: VA slim on August 10, 2009, 05:09:55 PM
skimming through this show for the first time since being there, and i'm pleasantly surprised.
i've only skimmed the first three nights i saw, but i think this might be the winner as far as energy goes.
the tweezer def. had IT for a second, though page sorta flubbed out the jam...and i'll have to check but it sounded very familiar... ?same jam as Camden?
anyway, drownedCrosseyed was pretty tight, and since CE&P was one of only two songs that i saw for the first time besides the new stuff, well it did the trick for me big time. yes, its becoming evident today that i am a complete whore for Fishman.

\...anyway, then there's the SpLit Open. its always been one of my top five fav songs, but i'm really starting to think its my fav. period. now, for this version...well, i really want to listen to it a few more times b4 i completely give it my seal of approval, but after ragin in the rain live and going through the recording once i say its LEgit. it teaters on the edge of disaster about as close as you can get, but thats the point of the jam, and i think they nailed it personally. might be my pick for FAV jam of the run.  :rockout:

I love the vocal accents.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VA $l!m on August 11, 2009, 10:57:05 AM
Quote from: VoodooBrew on August 11, 2009, 10:39:22 AM
Quote from: VA slim on August 10, 2009, 05:09:55 PM
skimming through this show for the first time since being there, and i'm pleasantly surprised.
i've only skimmed the first three nights i saw, but i think this might be the winner as far as energy goes.
the tweezer def. had IT for a second, though page sorta flubbed out the jam...and i'll have to check but it sounded very familiar... ?same jam as Camden?
anyway, drownedCrosseyed was pretty tight, and since CE&P was one of only two songs that i saw for the first time besides the new stuff, well it did the trick for me big time. yes, its becoming evident today that i am a complete whore for Fishman.

\...anyway, then there's the SpLit Open. its always been one of my top five fav songs, but i'm really starting to think its my fav. period. now, for this version...well, i really want to listen to it a few more times b4 i completely give it my seal of approval, but after ragin in the rain live and going through the recording once i say its LEgit. it teaters on the edge of disaster about as close as you can get, but thats the point of the jam, and i think they nailed it personally. might be my pick for FAV jam of the run.  :rockout:

I love the vocal accents.

yeah, weird how they almost are mocking trey's 'whale call'... i wonder who in the band started the vocal stuff... i'd half to go back and hear it again...
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 11, 2009, 11:02:33 AM
Quote from: VA slim on August 10, 2009, 05:09:55 PM

\...anyway, then there's the SpLit Open. its always been one of my top five fav songs, but i'm really starting to think its my fav. period. now, for this version...well, i really want to listen to it a few more times b4 i completely give it my seal of approval, but after ragin in the rain live and going through the recording once i say its LEgit. it teaters on the edge of disaster about as close as you can get, but thats the point of the jam, and i think they nailed it personally. might be my pick for FAV jam of the run.  :rockout:
That SOAM has been my favourite part of the RR run as well.  Definitely ranks up there.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mattstick on August 15, 2009, 01:29:22 PM

The Crosseyed Tease in Suzy is electric!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: willsteele on August 20, 2009, 02:10:44 PM
second set = dope.  very good stuff.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VA $l!m on August 23, 2009, 05:03:34 PM
just checking out the second set form the B&Ks for the first time.

and this CE&P is actually pretty damn hot.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VA $l!m on August 23, 2009, 07:08:01 PM
wow. i dont know how i, or everyone else for that matter, has been sleeping on this second set.
if it wasnt for the fact that the first set is uber lame minus the SOAM, this might be my fav show of 09... the secodn set at least is def in my top three or so.

the band is Fucking ON. probably the tightest i've heard all four members at once this year for more than a song at a time.

Drowned takes a bit to get going, but once they hit CE&P its ON, minus JOY which is completely forgetable at best... so, after JOY i didnt really think this tweezer was great until i heard the Audience tapes... BTW, these B&K's are SiiiiiiCK!!!
so, it was during this tweezer that i realized that MIKE is absolutely on FIre. in fact i was thinking that this set  might be some of the Hottest shit i've ever heard him play...hmmm,,, then i thought to myself: I'm i high or something? this cant be right. maybe its just these sick ass B&K mics...well, who knows, but this show flat out rawks all the way through the weirdo fluff>piper transition--cant believe they pullled that off- ha! --shit! i almost forgot to mention how fuckin hot the tweezer banginginto an unbelieveable BDTNL whcih freakin was the heat front to back FIRE!!!---whew! this set is fuckin sweet. too bad the first set is worthless up until the split. oh well, i'll take what i can get.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Superfreakie on August 23, 2009, 07:19:36 PM
Quote from: VA slim on August 23, 2009, 07:08:01 PM
wow. i dont know how i, or everyone else for that matter, has been sleeping on this second set.
if it wasnt for the fact that the first set is uber lame minus the SOAM, this might be my fav show of 09... the secodn set at least is def in my top three or so.

the band is Fucking ON. probably the tightest i've heard all four members at once this year for more than a song at a time.

Drowned takes a bit to get going, but once they hit CE&P its ON, minus JOY which is completely forgetable at best... so, after JOY i didnt really think this tweezer was great until i heard the Audience tapes... BTW, these B&K's are SiiiiiiCK!!!
so, it was during this tweezer that i realized that MIKE is absolutely on FIre. in fact i was thinking that this set  might be some of the Hottest shit i've ever heard him play...hmmm,,, then i thought to myself: I'm i high or something? this cant be right. maybe its just these sick ass B&K mics...well, who knows, but this show flat out rawks all the way through the weirdo fluff>piper transition--cant believe they pullled that off- ha! --shit! i almost forgot to mention how fuckin hot the tweezer banginginto an unbelieveable BDTNL whcih freakin was the heat front to back FIRE!!!---whew! this set is fuckin sweet. too bad the first set is worthless up until the split. oh well, i'll take what i can get.

SLim, get off the soundboards brah! How many times do I have to repeat it  :roll:  :lol: And by the way, there is another sick aud source out there that is different but comparable to the B&K's (not sure I should tell you which one or make you wait for my ultimate sources list  :lol: .....I am just waiting for some 24 bits to come out before releasing it, they are to be out this week according to the tapers we are waiting on) 
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VA $l!m on August 23, 2009, 07:27:31 PM
no i'm done wit the sbds...except i actually dont mind them as far as mp3s on the ipod, but  i cant listen to the uncompressed ones anymore. i refer to them only because they were mostly my original frame of reference as the first source i listened to for each show.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Hicks on August 23, 2009, 07:28:06 PM
I wasn't sleeping on it, def. my favorite night of the run.

Anybody else think the weird melodic part they played during Antelope on 8/8 had it's genesis in the Tweezer here?
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Superfreakie on August 23, 2009, 07:30:44 PM
Quote from: VA slim on August 23, 2009, 07:27:31 PM
no i'm done wit the sbds...except i actually dont mind them as far as mp3s on the ipod, but  i cant listen to the uncompressed ones anymore. i refer to them only because they were mostly my original frame of reference as the first source i listened to for each show.

I agree with that 100%. With most earbuds sbds are the way to go as you can hear every instrument clearly.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VA $l!m on August 23, 2009, 07:37:50 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 23, 2009, 07:28:06 PM
I wasn't sleeping on it, def. my favorite night of the run.

Anybody else think the weird melodic part they played during Antelope on 8/8 had it's genesis in the Tweezer here?

i dunno, but i do need to go back and listen to the camden tweeezer (which i didnt like at all the last time i heard it), because i keep thinking that the genesis of THis Tweezer was in that one...or mayeb i'm thinking of another one...


anyway, i'm still REally blown away by this set right now. Like i said it really picks up in Crosseyed, but from Tweezer>BDTNL>FLuff>piper>DITL is $$$$!!
trey finally lets up in piper a bit and honestly they couldve blown the roof off if he coulda kicked it into high gear there, but overall i'm hyped on this set.
i really want to go listen to the gorge now and see how this compares to what i thought was the hottest shows of tour before. unfortunately with out a doubt 8.7 and 8.8 especially have two great sets a piece, whereas this show really only has 1 or 1 and a half maybe.
its ironic that the reason i was sleeping on this show most likely is that this second set was the one where i was dealing with the massive drama of my idiotic friend. so i definitely wasnt tuned in to the band as much as i would of wanted. oh well, thank god for tapes.
after hearing this set and going through a bunch of the other 09 shows lately i'm really starting to get pysched about the bright spots. today was the first time i actually thought to myself that i enjoyed this set from 09 more than some of the other shows i saw from 1.0...albeit my least fav ones, but...  :lol:  :wtu:
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Hicks on August 23, 2009, 07:45:23 PM
They knew we had sat for nearly an hour in a downpour and rewarded us with that second set.

I wasn't cold at all by the time they dropped into C&P. 
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VA $l!m on August 23, 2009, 07:47:30 PM
did i mention that Mike is TEARING SHIT UP in this set?!?!?!!!!!  :crazy: :crazy:  :wtu: :rawk:
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Superfreakie on August 23, 2009, 08:05:27 PM
Quote from: VA slim on August 23, 2009, 07:37:50 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 23, 2009, 07:28:06 PM
I wasn't sleeping on it, def. my favorite night of the run.

Anybody else think the weird melodic part they played during Antelope on 8/8 had it's genesis in the Tweezer here?
the reason i was sleeping on this show most likely is that this second set was the one where i was dealing with the massive drama of my idiotic friend. so i definitely wasnt tuned in to the band as much as i would of wanted.

That was really nice of you SLim, you're a good friend and I hope said individual has apologized profusely while on their knees worshiping you. Personally, I'm of the ethos that it is sink or swim at a Phish show. This is not practice time for amateur hour, there is no shallow end nor kiddie pool, and most especially at Red Rocks. If you can't handle your shit then stay the fuck away from me. Fuckin' noobs, you should be  :samurai:

Back to the thread. This second set is the heat. No two ways about it.
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: WhatstheUse? on September 04, 2010, 01:27:25 AM
So....

How is it that Trey and Page both play the EXACT same descending riff @ 3:46 in this "Morrison Jam", which perfectly segues them into the next section of the jam ?

Magic? I think so....
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: McGrupp on September 04, 2010, 01:33:46 AM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 04, 2010, 01:27:25 AM
So....

How is it that Trey and Page both play the EXACT same descending riff @ 3:46 in this "Morrison Jam", which perfectly segues them into the next section of the jam ?

Magic? I think so....

Reasons why phish is awesome...
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: WhatstheUse? on September 04, 2010, 01:35:52 AM
Quote from: McGrupp on September 04, 2010, 01:33:46 AM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 04, 2010, 01:27:25 AM
So....

How is it that Trey and Page both play the EXACT same descending riff @ 3:46 in this "Morrison Jam", which perfectly segues them into the next section of the jam ?

Magic? I think so....

Reasons why phish is awesome...

Ding, ding! We have a winner!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on September 04, 2010, 09:13:43 AM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 04, 2010, 01:35:52 AM
Quote from: McGrupp on September 04, 2010, 01:33:46 AM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 04, 2010, 01:27:25 AM
So....

How is it that Trey and Page both play the EXACT same descending riff @ 3:46 in this "Morrison Jam", which perfectly segues them into the next section of the jam ?

Magic? I think so....

Reasons why phish is awesome...

Ding, ding! We have a winner!

Wait, he didn't put his answer in the form of a question!!! Alex Tribek wouldn't stand for this!!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mattstick on September 10, 2010, 08:44:23 PM

Can we just talk about how good this Crosseyed & Painless is?  It goes places the song rarely does.  Very heroic!
Title: Re: 07/31 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: WhatstheUse? on September 10, 2010, 09:20:10 PM
Quote from: mattstick on September 10, 2010, 08:44:23 PM

Can we just talk about how good this Crosseyed & Painless is?  It goes places the song rarely does.  Very heroic!

Can we? We just were!

Def one of the better 3.0 jamz.  Love When fishman delays the peak @ around 7:21.