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Title: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: mistercharlie on August 05, 2017, 11:24:43 PM
August 5th, 2017
Madison Square Garden
New York, NY

Bakers Dozen night 12 "Boston Cream" Theme

Set I: Soul Shakedown Party, Uncle Pen, The Sloth, Gotta Jibboo, Fuck Your Face, Sunshine of Your Love* -> More than a Feeling** -> Sunshine of your Love -> Foreplay/Longtime ^, Frost, Scent of a Mule, Fire, Alaska, Plasma

Set II: Ghost, Petrichor, Light -> Lizards, The Horse > Silent in The Morning, Quinn The Eskimo, Rocky Top,

E: Joy

* First Time Played (Cream cover)
** First Time Played (Boston Cover) unfinished
^Last Time Played 07-12-1999 (522 show gap) W/ Tales of Brave Ulysees, More than a Feeling and White Room quotes.
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: mistercharlie on August 05, 2017, 11:33:42 PM
This might have been the weakest of the shows so far. And that Ghost was great as was the Light. Not to mention the Boston Cream, but still somehow the weakest.

It's amazing that a show with as much greatness as this one had can be thought of as the weakest due to how well they've been playing this run.
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 05, 2017, 11:34:37 PM
This band is just the absolute best
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: mbw on August 05, 2017, 11:37:12 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on August 05, 2017, 11:34:37 PM
This band is just the absolute best

Which?
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: cactusfan on August 06, 2017, 12:33:51 AM
Quote from: mbw on August 05, 2017, 11:37:12 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on August 05, 2017, 11:34:37 PM
This band is just the absolute best

Which?

Boston.


Setlist still doesn't include the tease/quote (depending on your preference) of Tales of Brave Ulysses.
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: Gumbo72203 on August 06, 2017, 01:29:30 AM
So this was an interesting show.  Great moments abounded, but I kind of feel like they're running out of steam just a little bit.  Ghost felt like it left some money on the table, and Gotta Jibboo is long and was GREAT during the early jam, but didn't really do much for me towards the peak.  Didn't seem like they could hook up on anything.  Lots of Trey flubs, again.  Granted, he's playing a lot.  So i get it.  Page totally chopped the ending off Lizards outro jam one or 2 times early.... that still had legs as well.  So it goes. 

Frost after Sunshine of your Feeling was.... a strange call.  It was played magnificently, but holy hard left turn...

I actually liked Light too!  That was fantastic.  Tomorrow is certainly going to be interesting!
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: Gundo on August 06, 2017, 02:53:23 AM
Best band of all time. Trey healed my ankle with his love peaks
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: pcr3 on August 06, 2017, 04:42:21 AM
That Boston Cream segment was one of the best things I've seen this band do. Lots of smiles tonight.  :-D :phish: :banana:
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 06, 2017, 05:55:46 AM
Quote from: pcr3 on August 06, 2017, 04:42:21 AM
That Boston Cream segment was one of the best things I've seen this band do. Lots of smiles tonight.  :-D :phish: :banana:

That shit was bananas. crowd was going absolutely wild, especially during that More Than a Feeling breakdown. Can't wait to see what they've go in store for tomorrow! I can't get enough of this band!
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: mistercharlie on August 06, 2017, 07:13:07 AM
Quote from: cactusfan on August 06, 2017, 12:33:51 AM
Quote from: mbw on August 05, 2017, 11:37:12 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on August 05, 2017, 11:34:37 PM
This band is just the absolute best

Which?

Boston.


Setlist still doesn't include the tease/quote (depending on your preference) of Tales of Brave Ulysses.

The LivePhish.com page just lists that section of the show as Sunshine of Your Feeling and rolls all the Boston and Cream into one track.
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: Marmar on August 06, 2017, 07:32:23 AM
you got a fake boston creme donut....

that shit was just a fancy frosted chocolate donut....

I want a refund.
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: mistercharlie on August 06, 2017, 09:55:51 AM
This Ghost was Redonkulous!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0YONFH8V5o
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 06, 2017, 11:06:55 AM
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on August 06, 2017, 01:29:30 AM
So this was an interesting show.  Great moments abounded, but I kind of feel like they're running out of steam just a little bit.  Ghost felt like it left some money on the table, and Gotta Jibboo is long and was GREAT during the early jam, but didn't really do much for me towards the peak.  Didn't seem like they could hook up on anything.  Lots of Trey flubs, again.  Granted, he's playing a lot.  So i get it.  Page totally chopped the ending off Lizards outro jam one or 2 times early.... that still had legs as well.  So it goes. 

Frost after Sunshine of your Feeling was.... a strange call.  It was played magnificently, but holy hard left turn...

I actually liked Light too!  That was fantastic.  Tomorrow is certainly going to be interesting!

Not sure how you couldn't like that Ghost.
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: whatapiper on August 06, 2017, 11:45:25 AM
Show crushed, energy in that room was through the roof.

I think it is clear they are tired, I had that thought last night, but nothing is taking away from the awesomeness that was that show. They are being as creative as ever, I thought the show flowed beautifully.
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: Gumbo72203 on August 06, 2017, 04:25:05 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on August 06, 2017, 11:06:55 AM
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on August 06, 2017, 01:29:30 AM
So this was an interesting show.  Great moments abounded, but I kind of feel like they're running out of steam just a little bit.  Ghost felt like it left some money on the table, and Gotta Jibboo is long and was GREAT during the early jam, but didn't really do much for me towards the peak.  Didn't seem like they could hook up on anything.  Lots of Trey flubs, again.  Granted, he's playing a lot.  So i get it.  Page totally chopped the ending off Lizards outro jam one or 2 times early.... that still had legs as well.  So it goes. 

Frost after Sunshine of your Feeling was.... a strange call.  It was played magnificently, but holy hard left turn...

I actually liked Light too!  That was fantastic.  Tomorrow is certainly going to be interesting!

Not sure how you couldn't like that Ghost.


Oh I liked it plenty!  I just thought it wasn't finished yet haha... I felt like that well of energy/creativity was not tapped dry yet, that it still had legs.  I wanted it to go back up one more time, or stretch that outro out a bit and get a little creative.  Same with Lizards.... i was totally feeling the outro jam going around at least one more time to really milk the feeling, but Page came in with the piano slide earlier than I was anticipating.  It just felt cut off is all.  Trey actually played that section flawlessly too!  Very impressed.  It's a great song when it's played correctly. 


On another note, Fishman has been killing it on drums lately. 
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: VA $l!m on August 06, 2017, 04:49:21 PM
havent heard any of this show yet, but soley 'on paper'---wow. Foreplay/longtime bustout alone...
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: mbw on August 06, 2017, 04:59:11 PM
Quote from: VA $l!m on August 06, 2017, 04:49:21 PM
havent heard any of this show yet, but soley 'on paper'---wow. Foreplay/longtime bustout alone...

the Boston/Cream mashup is totally nailed and worth the listen.
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: sls.stormyrider on August 07, 2017, 09:45:44 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 06, 2017, 04:59:11 PM
Quote from: VA $l!m on August 06, 2017, 04:49:21 PM
havent heard any of this show yet, but soley 'on paper'---wow. Foreplay/longtime bustout alone...

the Boston/Cream mashup is totally nailed and worth the listen.
yes
Love the Tales of Brave Ulysses tease - kinda wish it was more than a tease but I'll take it
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: rowjimmy on August 08, 2017, 08:30:10 AM
Quote from: slslbs on August 07, 2017, 09:45:44 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 06, 2017, 04:59:11 PM
Quote from: VA $l!m on August 06, 2017, 04:49:21 PM
havent heard any of this show yet, but soley 'on paper'---wow. Foreplay/longtime bustout alone...

the Boston/Cream mashup is totally nailed and worth the listen.
yes
Love the Tales of Brave Ulysses tease - kinda wish it was more than a tease but I'll take it

Me too.
That was the Cream song that I was puling for all day.
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: pcr3 on August 09, 2017, 12:20:48 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 08, 2017, 08:30:10 AM
Quote from: slslbs on August 07, 2017, 09:45:44 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 06, 2017, 04:59:11 PM
Quote from: VA $l!m on August 06, 2017, 04:49:21 PM
havent heard any of this show yet, but soley 'on paper'---wow. Foreplay/longtime bustout alone...

the Boston/Cream mashup is totally nailed and worth the listen.
yes
Love the Tales of Brave Ulysses tease - kinda wish it was more than a tease but I'll take it

Me too.
That was the Cream song that I was puling for all day.

That's funny.  Trey teasing that is what put it over the top for me, and I lost all control of myself for the rest of that segment.  That is also when I lost my voice.
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 09, 2017, 09:10:03 PM
Absolutely love the Boston/Cream segment. Pure exaltation.

I'll never forget watching the crowd during the "I'm just taking my time.." breakdown section. White lights... EVERYONE clapping along. Pure enjoyment and happiness on 20,000 faces. I will not forget that moment.
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: ph92 on August 10, 2017, 12:13:36 AM
Quote from: pcr3 on August 09, 2017, 12:20:48 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 08, 2017, 08:30:10 AM
Quote from: slslbs on August 07, 2017, 09:45:44 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 06, 2017, 04:59:11 PM
Quote from: VA $l!m on August 06, 2017, 04:49:21 PM
havent heard any of this show yet, but soley 'on paper'---wow. Foreplay/longtime bustout alone...

the Boston/Cream mashup is totally nailed and worth the listen.
yes
Love the Tales of Brave Ulysses tease - kinda wish it was more than a tease but I'll take it

Me too.
That was the Cream song that I was puling for all day.

That's funny.  Trey teasing that is what put it over the top for me, and I lost all control of myself for the rest of that segment.  That is also when I lost my voice.
I kept getting thrown off in disbelief honestly. I kept thinking to myself "wait this is not how this song goes... HOLY FUCK!"  this logic loop repeated a few more times.

As for the rest of the show... The Ghost was definitely my personal highlight. They took this one slow and let it build organically. This one was non stop. I've been loving how they've really gotten comfortable with letting things unfold through the run rather than rushing and ripchording everything.

The Jibboo was an absolute dance fest, they killed this one, follows suit to naturally letting things unfold and just testing the new waters they've uncovered. Total groove, and perfect for the first set as the jam was light and fun. The comfort that the BD offered really speaks miles in these shows. 

Although Light, the song, sucks. This jam was pretty cool too. I like the tension building near the end, unfortunately they didn't release like they could have, but I still think it was solid.

Quinn was worth mentioning, Plasma bust out! (with killer jam, and pushed the set pretty late time wise).
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 27, 2017, 12:38:18 PM
So I'm pretty much a fan of Petrichor at this point. There's some sophisticated stuff going on, kudos to Trey for putting in the effort on this one. I love those classical sounding guitar passages. It lacks "The Peak" that most basically every other composition has so there's no big payoff, but.... the jam is pretty nice either way.
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: susep on March 13, 2018, 11:19:23 AM
Been on a Gamehendge kick recently, went back to hear The Lizards.  Ouch!  Trey completely blew this song.  Don't get me wrong I love this run and they played some really good stuff however I can't believe how bad they botched Lizards.  Trey sounds absolutely horrible when comping behind Page and, he blows most of his arpeggios.  Also their background harmonies are non-existent.   
Title: Re: 8/05/2017 - MSG, New York, NY - Post-Show
Post by: mopper_smurf on March 14, 2018, 05:02:18 PM
Quote from: susep on March 13, 2018, 11:19:23 AM
Been on a Gamehendge kick recently, went back to hear The Lizards.  Ouch!  Trey completely blew this song.  Don't get me wrong I love this run and they played some really good stuff however I can't believe how bad they botched Lizards.  Trey sounds absolutely horrible when comping behind Page and, he blows most of his arpeggios.  Also their background harmonies are non-existent.   

Yes. That was brutal.