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Title: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: antelope19 on May 20, 2008, 12:59:16 PM
I was hangin out last night with a friend and we got to talking.  He is going to start building his home theater and needs a new receiver on a limited budget.  Lets say he's willing to spend $300ish.  Where should I direct him with that kind of budget and what would be the best bang for his buck at that price range.  He is by no means an audiophile(their current set up is an ipod dock speaker, bose maybe?) and would most likely be thrilled with a 5.1 surround. 
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: mattstick on May 20, 2008, 01:01:39 PM

Not gonna get much in the way of quality for $300.

I'd head down to the local big box electronics store and see what's on-sale.
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: antelope19 on May 20, 2008, 01:02:52 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 20, 2008, 01:01:39 PM

Not gonna get much in the way of quality for $300.

I'd head down to the local big box electronics store and see what's on-sale.

Yeah, I think thats what he'll end up doing, but which of the lower-end products/brands would be a better bet in your opinion?
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: mattstick on May 20, 2008, 01:08:35 PM

Pioneer.
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: antelope19 on May 20, 2008, 01:09:23 PM
Ok.  I'll let him know.  Thanks and a +k while I'm at it.
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: khalpin on May 20, 2008, 01:15:37 PM
Best bang for the buck: Onkyo.  Here's a good one under $300:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Onkyo-TX-SR575-7-1-Channel-Home-Theater-Receiver-Black-TX-SR575/sem/rpsm/oid/180524/catOid/-12949/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: antelope19 on May 20, 2008, 01:20:55 PM
cool thanks!
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: mattstick on May 20, 2008, 01:22:24 PM
Some newer amps will have built-in Tuners for Sat Radio, maybe worth it if he ever gets XM/Sirius.

Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: antelope19 on May 20, 2008, 01:24:26 PM
Good thought Matt.  I'll pass that along as well.  Thanks.
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: Hicks on May 20, 2008, 01:26:19 PM
Onkyo 605 for $374 is what I would roll with:

http://www.jr.com/order/basket.jsp?ADD_CART_ITEM_ARRAY%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442234746&ADD_CART_ITEM_ARRAY%3C%3Equantity=1&bmForm=add_to_cart&bmFormID=1211304363392&bmSubmit=add&bmHash=c71ec109bc59f979d021bc36661dfe1c2234741c
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: antelope19 on May 20, 2008, 01:44:56 PM
Thanks again guys!
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: blatboom on May 20, 2008, 01:58:48 PM
If they do go to the store, def. tell them to look on-line before they buy because you can almost always find it cheaper (plus you don't gotta pay sales tax & can often find free shipping)


from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aws/cart/add.html?AWSAccessKeyId=0SNN4CNDW43V2MFXRBG2&AssociateTag=gosale-20&OfferListingId.1=CVX%2FJKDgQnHKckRQNkqqF204sSscpeWcEyEOIbTbjrUC15dHM%2F%2BxQ3dBpjtSvXUpriIuIkUZqqOvicFqVz8qlA%3D%3D&Quantity.1=1&add=add (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aws/cart/add.html?AWSAccessKeyId=0SNN4CNDW43V2MFXRBG2&AssociateTag=gosale-20&OfferListingId.1=CVX%2FJKDgQnHKckRQNkqqF204sSscpeWcEyEOIbTbjrUC15dHM%2F%2BxQ3dBpjtSvXUpriIuIkUZqqOvicFqVz8qlA%3D%3D&Quantity.1=1&add=add)

Onkyo TX-SR605S 7.1 Channel Home Theater Receiver (Silver) $311.99 1  (free shipping)
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: Marmar on May 20, 2008, 07:30:46 PM
Try Yamaha's too....

Their DSP's are top notch....plus I like their overall cost vs. quality.....Onkyo is ok, but Yamaha's would be a lil better IMHO....and for not much more cheddah....
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: Hicks on May 20, 2008, 07:38:33 PM
Quote from: Marmar on May 20, 2008, 07:30:46 PM
Try Yamaha's too....

Their DSP's are top notch....plus I like their overall cost vs. quality.....Onkyo is ok, but Yamaha's would be a lil better IMHO....and for not much more cheddah....

Yamaha's bass output tend to be too low for me, plus I can't support a company that uses gimmicks like "presence" speakers.
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: Marmar on May 21, 2008, 12:08:27 AM
I've never had that problem....

I bet some of it might have to do with the sub being used, along with how you have the bass management set up....

Then stop supporting everyone who uses DTS:NEO....or ProLogic.....those incorporate presence speakers.

And bass is never an issue.....if you want more bass, you just make sure your sub is up to the challenge......or upgrade the front speakers to something with at least an 8" driver....
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: antelope19 on May 21, 2008, 09:01:53 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 20, 2008, 01:44:56 PM
Thanks again guys!
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: Hicks on May 21, 2008, 11:52:12 AM
Quote from: Marmar on May 21, 2008, 12:08:27 AM
I've never had that problem....

I bet some of it might have to do with the sub being used, along with how you have the bass management set up....

Then stop supporting everyone who uses DTS:NEO....or ProLogic.....those incorporate presence speakers.



I listen to ProLogic an DTS:Neo all the time with a simple 5.1 or 7.1 set up. 
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: VA $l!m on May 25, 2008, 08:04:28 PM
Quote from: Marmar on May 20, 2008, 07:30:46 PM
Try Yamaha's too....

Their DSP's are top notch....plus I like their overall cost vs. quality.....Onkyo is ok, but Yamaha's would be a lil better IMHO....and for not much more cheddah....

from my own experience, after buying a similar onkyo 7.1 HTIB, i like onkyo's receivers, but their speakers pretty much blow. its just not their cup of tea.

hopefully some time this year can get a much needed major upgrade to my own system.
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: blatboom on May 26, 2008, 08:37:20 PM
Quote from: VA slim on May 25, 2008, 08:04:28 PM

from my own experience, after buying a similar onkyo 7.1 HTIB, i like onkyo's receivers, but their speakers pretty much blow. its just not their cup of tea.

hopefully some time this year can get a much needed major upgrade to my own system.

I had the same Polk's for years and they still scream.
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: VA $l!m on May 26, 2008, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: blatboom on May 26, 2008, 08:37:20 PM
Quote from: VA slim on May 25, 2008, 08:04:28 PM

from my own experience, after buying a similar onkyo 7.1 HTIB, i like onkyo's receivers, but their speakers pretty much blow. its just not their cup of tea.

hopefully some time this year can get a much needed major upgrade to my own system.

I had the same Polk's for years and they still scream.

yuh. i dunno. it'll be while before i can do anything so there is really no point in speculating now, but i might keep my receiver and just change my speakers eventually. who knows. first off i', going to buy a computer so thats really my priority right now. hopefully in the next month or so i will start looking for a computer to build a whole entire new system around. if i'm lucky i'll get it right this time.
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: Hicks on May 27, 2008, 12:28:14 PM
Quote from: VA slim on May 26, 2008, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: blatboom on May 26, 2008, 08:37:20 PM
Quote from: VA slim on May 25, 2008, 08:04:28 PM

from my own experience, after buying a similar onkyo 7.1 HTIB, i like onkyo's receivers, but their speakers pretty much blow. its just not their cup of tea.

hopefully some time this year can get a much needed major upgrade to my own system.

I had the same Polk's for years and they still scream.

yuh. i dunno. it'll be while before i can do anything so there is really no point in speculating now, but i might keep my receiver and just change my speakers eventually. who knows. first off i', going to buy a computer so thats really my priority right now. hopefully in the next month or so i will start looking for a computer to build a whole entire new system around. if i'm lucky i'll get it right this time.

PM me if you are interested in getting speakers sooner rather than later, I can get you some deals on the Aperions I sell. 
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: khalpin on May 27, 2008, 01:36:20 PM
Quote from: VA slim on May 25, 2008, 08:04:28 PM


from my own experience, after buying a similar onkyo 7.1 HTIB, i like onkyo's receivers, but their speakers pretty much blow. its just not their cup of tea.

hopefully some time this year can get a much needed major upgrade to my own system.

I think that's usually true of most HTiB.  They really chinse on the speakers.  If you go with individual components, you can get a lot more for just a couple more bucks.
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: antelope19 on May 27, 2008, 03:32:57 PM
Quote from: Hicks on May 27, 2008, 12:28:14 PM
Quote from: VA slim on May 26, 2008, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: blatboom on May 26, 2008, 08:37:20 PM
Quote from: VA slim on May 25, 2008, 08:04:28 PM

from my own experience, after buying a similar onkyo 7.1 HTIB, i like onkyo's receivers, but their speakers pretty much blow. its just not their cup of tea.

hopefully some time this year can get a much needed major upgrade to my own system.

I had the same Polk's for years and they still scream.

yuh. i dunno. it'll be while before i can do anything so there is really no point in speculating now, but i might keep my receiver and just change my speakers eventually. who knows. first off i', going to buy a computer so thats really my priority right now. hopefully in the next month or so i will start looking for a computer to build a whole entire new system around. if i'm lucky i'll get it right this time.

PM me if you are interested in getting speakers sooner rather than later, I can get you some deals on the Aperions I sell. 

If the offer still stands in a few months, I may take you up on that Hicks.  iirc, I have the same system as Slim and would agree with everything he's said about the onkyo speakers.  Well, let me rephrase.  I wouldn't say they blow, but they could stand for some improvement. 
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: Hicks on May 27, 2008, 03:38:20 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 27, 2008, 03:32:57 PM
Quote from: Hicks on May 27, 2008, 12:28:14 PM
Quote from: VA slim on May 26, 2008, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: blatboom on May 26, 2008, 08:37:20 PM
Quote from: VA slim on May 25, 2008, 08:04:28 PM

from my own experience, after buying a similar onkyo 7.1 HTIB, i like onkyo's receivers, but their speakers pretty much blow. its just not their cup of tea.

hopefully some time this year can get a much needed major upgrade to my own system.

I had the same Polk's for years and they still scream.

yuh. i dunno. it'll be while before i can do anything so there is really no point in speculating now, but i might keep my receiver and just change my speakers eventually. who knows. first off i', going to buy a computer so thats really my priority right now. hopefully in the next month or so i will start looking for a computer to build a whole entire new system around. if i'm lucky i'll get it right this time.

PM me if you are interested in getting speakers sooner rather than later, I can get you some deals on the Aperions I sell. 

If the offer still stands in a few months, I may take you up on that Hicks.  iirc, I have the same system as Slim and would agree with everything he's said about the onkyo speakers.  Well, let me rephrase.  I wouldn't say they blow, but they could stand for some improvement. 

No harm in hitting me up later but right now we are kind of desperate to clear warehouse space so big time deals are going down, but our stuff is always reasonably priced, especially for friends.   :-)

Khalpin is right, HTIB speakers will always be adequate at best.
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: antelope19 on May 27, 2008, 03:51:00 PM
Is there a link to the "clearance" deals?
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: Hicks on May 27, 2008, 04:38:03 PM
http://www.aperionaudio.com/catalog/Closeout-Speaker-Deals,65.aspx

If you are down for scratch and dent product I can get you better deals.
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: antelope19 on May 27, 2008, 04:41:29 PM
Hmm, I don't know how psyched my neighbors would be if I got anything involving the words "room quaking" in the description.  :lol:

Thanks for the link!

EDIT to add: You all make some nice stuff from what I can tell.  I am really looking to upgrade my surround or sattelite speakers as well as my fronts at some point.  I am ok with my center speaker currently. 
Title: Re: New receiver for a friend.
Post by: Hicks on May 27, 2008, 06:24:33 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 27, 2008, 04:41:29 PM
Hmm, I don't know how psyched my neighbors would be if I got anything involving the words "room quaking" in the description.  :lol:

Thanks for the link!

EDIT to add: You all make some nice stuff from what I can tell.  I am really looking to upgrade my surround or sattelite speakers as well as my fronts at some point.  I am ok with my center speaker currently. 

Thanks mang, if you are interested in checking out some speakers of similar quality you should head to a Best Buy with a Magnolia Hi Fi and check out some Vienna Acoustics, they are pretty sweet too.