Saints violated bounty rule

[DoW]

http://nflheadinjurylawsuits.com/
I think that pretty much sums it up.
does the NFL really have any choice in the matter?

it sums up how insanely litigious our society is. I don't think a player winning a few grand for interceptions or sacks is or should be linked to concussions/head injuries (correlation is not causation)

do you really think this is about sacks and interceptions?  I don't want to be demeaning but that is naive.
take a look at what is happening in the nfl with hits on QBs. 
take a look at fines and how a safety basically can;t do anything anymore.
then take a look at how players are blaming their former teams and the league.

if you think all the saints were doing is giving incentives for sacks and interceptions, you must drink enough kool-aid to actually think trey is playing well in 3.0.

I don't think the saints were doing bounties for sacks and interceptions, but lots of teams do. Matt Bowen has said the Redskins system was something the players paid into as penalties for blown coverage in practice, showing up late to meetings, etc. Philip Daniels said he received as much as $1500 for a game in which he recorded four sacks. Simply because it's a bounty system doesn't mean the intent is malicious (although it certainly was in the Saints' case).

but you're changing the whole discussion then.
my point was geared towards malicious incentives.
I don't and I doubt the NFL cares about de mnimus (in comparison to salaries) bonuses for noteworthy performances.

[antelope19]

One source close to Roger Goodell tells SI.com's Peter King that the commissioner's reaction to initial reports about the Saints' bounty program was, "God forbid this is true. This will be earth-shattering."
"This is a seminal moment in the culture change we have to make," said the high-placed source close to Goodell. "This has to stop now. Every team needs to hear the message that we're in a different era now, where this appalling behavior is going to end." The Saints can't expect leniency. King believes Goodell will come down hardest on Rams DC Greg Williams, Saints coach Sean Payton, GM Mickey Loomis, and MLB Jonathan Vilma, "in that order." All four, and perhaps more Saints defensive players, should expect multi-game suspensions.

[VDB]

One source close to Roger Goodell tells SI.com's Peter King that the commissioner's reaction to initial reports about the Saints' bounty program was, "God forbid this is true. This will be earth-shattering."
"This is a seminal moment in the culture change we have to make," said the high-placed source close to Goodell. "This has to stop now. Every team needs to hear the message that we're in a different era now, where this appalling behavior is going to end." The Saints can't expect leniency. King believes Goodell will come down hardest on Rams DC Greg Williams, Saints coach Sean Payton, GM Mickey Loomis, and MLB Jonathan Vilma, "in that order." All four, and perhaps more Saints defensive players, should expect multi-game suspensions.

Can we say "self-fulfilling prophecy"?

[phil]

One source close to Roger Goodell tells SI.com's Peter King that the commissioner's reaction to initial reports about the Saints' bounty program was, "God forbid this is true. This will be earth-shattering."
"This is a seminal moment in the culture change we have to make," said the high-placed source close to Goodell. "This has to stop now. Every team needs to hear the message that we're in a different era now, where this appalling behavior is going to end." The Saints can't expect leniency. King believes Goodell will come down hardest on Rams DC Greg Williams, Saints coach Sean Payton, GM Mickey Loomis, and MLB Jonathan Vilma, "in that order." All four, and perhaps more Saints defensive players, should expect multi-game suspensions.

Am I missing something? How is Jonathan Vilma any more culpable than the any other defensive player?

[GBL]

Anyone who follows football knows the Saints have been the dirtiest, cheapest team over the last 3 years and I am extremely glad Goodell is going to bring the hammer down HARD

[PIE-GUY]

Anyone who follows football knows the Saints have been the dirtiest, cheapest team over the last 3 years and I am extremely glad Goodell is going to bring the hammer down HARD

I don't know if I agree with this... I've seen some ugly defense out of Baltimore that puts the saints to shame.

[phil]

It's safe to say that, whether or not saints players received money for big hits/whatever, Roger Goodell has done more to ruin football than any bounty system ever could.

[GBL]

Anyone who follows football knows the Saints have been the dirtiest, cheapest team over the last 3 years and I am extremely glad Goodell is going to bring the hammer down HARD

I don't know if I agree with this... I've seen some ugly defense out of Baltimore that puts the saints to shame.

09 and 10 in particular.. Which is why none of this is that shocking at all..

[blatboom]

One source close to Roger Goodell tells SI.com's Peter King that the commissioner's reaction to initial reports about the Saints' bounty program was, "God forbid this is true. This will be earth-shattering."
"This is a seminal moment in the culture change we have to make," said the high-placed source close to Goodell. "This has to stop now. Every team needs to hear the message that we're in a different era now, where this appalling behavior is going to end." The Saints can't expect leniency. King believes Goodell will come down hardest on Rams DC Greg Williams, Saints coach Sean Payton, GM Mickey Loomis, and MLB Jonathan Vilma, "in that order." All four, and perhaps more Saints defensive players, should expect multi-game suspensions.

Am I missing something? How is Jonathan Vilma any more culpable than the any other defensive player?

he put up the 10 grand to take Favre out

[phil]

One source close to Roger Goodell tells SI.com's Peter King that the commissioner's reaction to initial reports about the Saints' bounty program was, "God forbid this is true. This will be earth-shattering."
"This is a seminal moment in the culture change we have to make," said the high-placed source close to Goodell. "This has to stop now. Every team needs to hear the message that we're in a different era now, where this appalling behavior is going to end." The Saints can't expect leniency. King believes Goodell will come down hardest on Rams DC Greg Williams, Saints coach Sean Payton, GM Mickey Loomis, and MLB Jonathan Vilma, "in that order." All four, and perhaps more Saints defensive players, should expect multi-game suspensions.

Am I missing something? How is Jonathan Vilma any more culpable than the any other defensive player?

he put up the 10 grand to take Favre out

Ah yes, I can see how that would be particularly damning. Even in light of Anthony Hargrove claiming he received no money from the late hit on Favre in the '09 NFC Championship game

[blatboom]

Being a welcher does not absolve one from guilt. besides dude's probably lying

[GBL]

Being a welcher does not absolve one from guilt. besides dude's probably lying

Dude is totally lying, he was caught on audio..

[antelope19]

Holy shit! Payton suspended for the season! Williams suspended indefinitely! They're docked draft picks too!

[DoW]

Holy shit! Payton suspended for the season! Williams suspended indefinitely! They're docked draft picks too!

and they have to trade for tim tebow taboot.
eta:  I had no idea the Jets traded for Tebow when I posted that.
I can't find this story anywhere.  damn.  that is harsh.

[Bobafett]

crazy fuckin NFL.  that some pretty harsh penalties.