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Title: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on October 17, 2010, 08:35:51 PM
I'm betting there are a few other Tolkien fans here.

'The Hobbit' is finally over most of the hurdles it's gone through on the road to being filmed. It is slated to start filming in February, with Peter Jackson now on to Produce and Direct.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11560411 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11560411)

I'm looking forward to it.  :crazy:
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mehead on October 17, 2010, 08:43:39 PM
yeah, the last I had heard was that Peter Jackson wasn't doing it

$$$$$$$$$$$$ ?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on October 17, 2010, 08:47:01 PM
He's been singed on to Produce it for quite awhile now, and Gillermo Del Torro was supposed to Direct it. But Del Torro backed out and it the went to Jackson.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: twatts on October 17, 2010, 09:16:08 PM
I heard Samuel L Jackson is going to play the part of Bard...

Terry
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on October 17, 2010, 09:39:19 PM
Ian McKellen will return as Gandolf and apparently the part of Bilbo is already cast. (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=14808)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on October 17, 2010, 09:48:33 PM
WOOO!! yess this is my favorite book

i love the hobbit, im glad jackson is doing it finally
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: sprobeck on October 17, 2010, 11:50:58 PM
I'm psyched. Childhood favorite. I was Gandalf for Halloween when I was 7.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ytowndan on October 18, 2010, 12:37:20 AM
I need to put this book on my to-do list.  I'm not sure how I managed to go this far in life without reading it, but I hear I'm missing out. 
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on October 18, 2010, 08:42:25 AM
Quote from: ytowndan on October 18, 2010, 12:37:20 AM
I need to put this book on my to-do list.  I'm not sure how I managed to go this far in life without reading it, but I hear I'm missing out.

Get on that shit, dude.


I'm psyched about this.
Apparently, MGM has been strapped for cash and has been unable to green light shit for a while. Because of those delays, they lost del Toro and were about to lose Ian McKellen (scheduling).

Martin Freeman was rumored to be cast as Bilbo but he had to turn it down due to scheduling problems but that may change...
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Igbo on October 18, 2010, 08:44:34 AM
Stoked. Wouldnt have been the same if Jackson didnt do it.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mattstick on October 18, 2010, 08:44:59 AM

Hopefully it's as long and boring as ROTK.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: willsteele on October 18, 2010, 10:54:18 AM
Glad DelToro is out and Jackson back in.  I can't fuckin wait for this.  In my opinion, the one Hobbit book beats the shit out of all three LOTR books in a lot of ways.  For one, its a lot less depressing to me...   way too much end of our days and now is the time of man shit in LOTR.  I like it best when man is hardly involved in middle earth.  It will be interesting though to see what they do with movie #2 and how they tie it in to the beginnings of LOTR.   

There is so much material in all of these books that they have to leave out..  wish they didn't but the average movie watching public can only take so much I suppose.  They could make the Hobbit 4 hours long and I would love every minute of it though.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VDB on October 18, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 17, 2010, 09:39:19 PM
Ian McKellen will return as Gandolf and apparently the part of Bilbo is already cast. (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=14808)

No Ian Holm return? Is the Bilbo character supposed to be much younger in "The Hobbit"? (Obviously, I haven't read the book.)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on October 18, 2010, 11:17:48 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 18, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 17, 2010, 09:39:19 PM
Ian McKellen will return as Gandolf and apparently the part of Bilbo is already cast. (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=14808)

No Ian Holm return? Is the Bilbo character supposed to be much younger in "The Hobbit"? (Obviously, I haven't read the book.)

Quote from: rowjimmy on October 18, 2010, 08:42:25 AM
Get on that shit, dude.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on October 18, 2010, 11:29:22 AM
Quote from: willsteele on October 18, 2010, 10:54:18 AM
Glad DelToro is out and Jackson back in.  I can't fuckin wait for this.  In my opinion, the one Hobbit book beats the shit out of all three LOTR books in a lot of ways.  For one, its a lot less depressing to me...   way too much end of our days and now is the time of man shit in LOTR.  I like it best when man is hardly involved in middle earth.  It will be interesting though to see what they do with movie #2 and how they tie it in to the beginnings of LOTR.   

There is so much material in all of these books that they have to leave out..  wish they didn't but the average movie watching public can only take so much I suppose.  They could make the Hobbit 4 hours long and I would love every minute of it though.


I think that the two movies will contain much of what Gandalf is doing when he leaves Bilbo and co. apparently they've cast Radagast and the entire White Council and Gandalf's dealings with the Necromancer will be the flesh that turns this into two films. I'm pretty psyched about this.


Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 18, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 17, 2010, 09:39:19 PM
Ian McKellen will return as Gandolf and apparently the part of Bilbo is already cast. (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=14808)

No Ian Holm return? Is the Bilbo character supposed to be much younger in "The Hobbit"? (Obviously, I haven't read the book.)


Although they did briefly portray Bilbo finding the ring in the LOTR films, Bilbo is a much younger Hobbit at the time of his journey than he was in LOTR (111.) factor in that Ian Holm is getting older too, it makes a lot of sense to recast, although He did turn in a stellar performance.

I think that if schedules permit, Martin Freeman could make an excellent Bilbo if he puts on a few pounds.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on October 18, 2010, 12:13:25 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 18, 2010, 11:29:22 AM
Quote from: willsteele on October 18, 2010, 10:54:18 AM
Glad DelToro is out and Jackson back in.  I can't fuckin wait for this.  In my opinion, the one Hobbit book beats the shit out of all three LOTR books in a lot of ways.  For one, its a lot less depressing to me...   way too much end of our days and now is the time of man shit in LOTR.  I like it best when man is hardly involved in middle earth.  It will be interesting though to see what they do with movie #2 and how they tie it in to the beginnings of LOTR.   

There is so much material in all of these books that they have to leave out..  wish they didn't but the average movie watching public can only take so much I suppose.  They could make the Hobbit 4 hours long and I would love every minute of it though.


I think that the two movies will contain much of what Gandalf is doing when he leaves Bilbo and co. apparently they've cast Radagast and the entire White Council and Gandalf's dealings with the Necromancer will be the flesh that turns this into two films. I'm pretty psyched about this.

wait RJ..... 2 films? that would be EPIC!!!!!!! i would definitely watch 2 movies and have more of the story for sure, ill buy the extended edition too :-D

Quote from: rowjimmy on October 18, 2010, 11:29:22 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 18, 2010, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 17, 2010, 09:39:19 PM
Ian McKellen will return as Gandolf and apparently the part of Bilbo is already cast. (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=14808)

No Ian Holm return? Is the Bilbo character supposed to be much younger in "The Hobbit"? (Obviously, I haven't read the book.)


Although they did briefly portray Bilbo finding the ring in the LOTR films, Bilbo is a much younger Hobbit at the time of his journey than he was in LOTR (111.) factor in that Ian Holm is getting older too, it makes a lot of sense to recast, although He did turn in a stellar performance.

I think that if schedules permit, Martin Freeman could make an excellent Bilbo if he puts on a few pounds.
and IIRC frodo isnt even born at this point in time (during the hobbit) so bilbo is very young

I really do like how Tolkein wrote the hobbit as a kids book, have you guys read the silmarillion? or any of the other middle earth side stories/history? there are SO FUCKING MANY NOW Tolkein's son picked up the slack and edited/added on to a bunch of Tolkein's essays and short stories etc, he also wrote more middle earth history books based on all the notes and things Tolkein left.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on October 18, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
Yes.
There will be two films.

Have I mentioned that I'm psyched.

Here I was thinking that it was time to start re-reading The Hobbit & LOTR. I did just finish re-reading The Silmarillion and The Children Of Hurin... I suppose that it must truly be time.

And, yes. Frodo is not yet born at the time of Bilbo's adventure.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on October 18, 2010, 12:24:36 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 18, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
Yes.
There will be two films.

Have I mentioned that I'm psyched.

Here I was thinking that it was time to start re-reading The Hobbit & LOTR. I did just finish re-reading The Silmarillion and The Children Of Hurin... I suppose that it must truly be time.

And, yes. Frodo is not yet born at the time of Bilbo's adventure.
ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!

i havent finished the Silmarillion yet (its pretty hard to read that when you have intense ADHD), plus the book itself isnt so much a story, it jumps around alot iirc
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on October 18, 2010, 12:34:25 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 18, 2010, 12:24:36 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 18, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
Yes.
There will be two films.

Have I mentioned that I'm psyched.

Here I was thinking that it was time to start re-reading The Hobbit & LOTR. I did just finish re-reading The Silmarillion and The Children Of Hurin... I suppose that it must truly be time.

And, yes. Frodo is not yet born at the time of Bilbo's adventure.
ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!

i havent finished the Silmarillion yet (its pretty hard to read that when you have intense ADHD), plus the book itself isnt so much a story, it jumps around alot iirc


I have serial ADHD. It's a collection of histories. Not that bad of a read.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on October 18, 2010, 12:43:52 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 18, 2010, 12:34:25 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 18, 2010, 12:24:36 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 18, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
Yes.
There will be two films.

Have I mentioned that I'm psyched.

Here I was thinking that it was time to start re-reading The Hobbit & LOTR. I did just finish re-reading The Silmarillion and The Children Of Hurin... I suppose that it must truly be time.

And, yes. Frodo is not yet born at the time of Bilbo's adventure.
ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!

i havent finished the Silmarillion yet (its pretty hard to read that when you have intense ADHD), plus the book itself isnt so much a story, it jumps around alot iirc


I have serial ADHD. It's a collection of histories. Not that bad of a read.

(http://www.starpulse.com/news/media/1112ImaginationlandPartIII-2.jpg)
MY ADHD IS SUPER SERIAL!! :-D

but yeah ill probably grab it when i go home
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: sunrisevt on October 18, 2010, 02:10:40 PM
Been hearing about [Gandalf, White Council, Necromancer] off and on for a year or more--I would be so very happy to see that.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Hicks on October 18, 2010, 02:13:43 PM
I hope it will match the level of the LOTR trilogy, but what has Peter Jackson done for me lately?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on October 18, 2010, 03:17:37 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 18, 2010, 02:13:43 PM
I hope it will match the level of the LOTR trilogy, but what has Peter Jackson done for me lately?

King Kong?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Hicks on October 18, 2010, 03:30:14 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 18, 2010, 03:17:37 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 18, 2010, 02:13:43 PM
I hope it will match the level of the LOTR trilogy, but what has Peter Jackson done for me lately?

King Kong?

A completely unnecessary remake and way too long.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: zimbra on October 18, 2010, 04:49:53 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 17, 2010, 08:35:51 PM
I'm betting there are a few other Tolkien fans here.

'The Hobbit' is finally over most of the hurdles it's gone through on the road to being filmed. It is slated to start filming in February, with Peter Jackson now on to Produce and Direct.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11560411 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11560411)

I'm looking forward to it.  :crazy:

Thanks for sharing! I've always been a fan of Tolkien's work.  I haven't been to a theater to see a film in quite some time, this will hopefully be worth going!


Quote from: Hicks on October 18, 2010, 03:30:14 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 18, 2010, 03:17:37 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 18, 2010, 02:13:43 PM
I hope it will match the level of the LOTR trilogy, but what has Peter Jackson done for me lately?

King Kong?

A completely unnecessary remake and way too long.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard

Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ytowndan on October 18, 2010, 05:08:07 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 18, 2010, 03:30:14 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 18, 2010, 03:17:37 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 18, 2010, 02:13:43 PM
I hope it will match the level of the LOTR trilogy, but what has Peter Jackson done for me lately?

King Kong?

A completely unnecessary remake and way too long.

Man, not only was that way too long, but some parts had the pace of a glacier. 
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: willsteele on October 18, 2010, 05:15:49 PM
I just hope its not in 3d.  That shit gives me a headache.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on October 18, 2010, 05:26:26 PM
Quote from: willsteele on October 18, 2010, 05:15:49 PM
I just hope its not in 3d.  That shit gives me a headache.

The whole thing is being filmed with 3D cameras. They may also release a 2D version though.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: PIE-GUY on October 18, 2010, 05:27:05 PM
Quote from: willsteele on October 18, 2010, 05:15:49 PM
I just hope its not in 3d.  That shit gives me a headache.

The chance of this movie not being 3D: Zero-Point-Zero.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: willsteele on October 18, 2010, 05:29:51 PM
I have a headache already.





But still super psyched.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on October 18, 2010, 10:48:14 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on October 18, 2010, 05:27:05 PM
Quote from: willsteele on October 18, 2010, 05:15:49 PM
I just hope its not in 3d.  That shit gives me a headache.

The chance of this movie not being 3D: Zero-Point-Zero.

If they film in 3d it'll be ok. It's the 2d -> 3d conversions that blow mules. For this reason the next Harry Potter will not see initial release in 3d.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VDB on October 19, 2010, 01:49:20 PM
God I can't wait for this 3D fad to pass. I personally boycott 3D films. It's really just for the industry to rake in more revenue. What is it, higher ticket prices plus having to pay extra for the glasses? No thanks. The first and only 3D film I saw was Phish 3D -- something I made a special exception for.

Quote from: mistercharlie on October 18, 2010, 05:26:26 PM
Quote from: willsteele on October 18, 2010, 05:15:49 PM
I just hope its not in 3d.  That shit gives me a headache.

The whole thing is being filmed with 3D cameras. They may also release a 2D version though.

I'm sure they will. Seems like most releases these days come in both flavors. (Except, well, Phish 3D, of course...)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: twatts on October 19, 2010, 08:54:16 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on October 18, 2010, 12:37:20 AM
I need to put this book on my to-do list.  I'm not sure how I managed to go this far in life without reading it, but I hear I'm missing out.

Dooood!!!  I've read the entire series about 20 times over the years...  You need to read it!

Terry
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Lifeboy on October 20, 2010, 12:51:40 AM
I am disappointed with myself that I have somehow never read The Hobbit, so I ordered a used copy today from Amazon for $0.10!
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ytowndan on October 20, 2010, 02:47:15 AM
Quote from: Lifeboy on October 20, 2010, 12:51:40 AM
I am disappointed with myself that I have somehow never read The Hobbit, so I ordered a used copy today from Amazon for $0.10!

It's nice to know I'm not the only one.  Perhaps I'll do the same. 
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Lifeboy on October 20, 2010, 02:50:26 AM
Quote from: ytowndan on October 20, 2010, 02:47:15 AM
Quote from: Lifeboy on October 20, 2010, 12:51:40 AM
I am disappointed with myself that I have somehow never read The Hobbit, so I ordered a used copy today from Amazon for $0.10!

It's nice to know I'm not the only one.  Perhaps I'll do the same.

$4.00 including shipping....can't beat it!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0345296044/ref=sr_1_10_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1287557358&sr=8-10&condition=used (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0345296044/ref=sr_1_10_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1287557358&sr=8-10&condition=used)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: emay on October 20, 2010, 10:17:09 AM
Peter jackson looks like a psycho in that pic
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Hicks on October 20, 2010, 11:44:41 AM
It's much more of a "kid's book" than the LOTR trilogy, but still a great read.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on October 20, 2010, 12:03:10 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 20, 2010, 11:44:41 AM
It's much more of a "kid's book" than the LOTR trilogy, but still a great read.

True. Having read it a bunch of times, I told the story to my daughter as a series of bedtime stories last year...
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: willsteele on October 20, 2010, 02:33:00 PM
^^  Good idea! 

I have a box set (somehwere at my parents house) of the Hobbit and LOTR.  Gotta find it and have it available for when my son is ready for it.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: shoreline99 on October 21, 2010, 12:21:52 PM
Rankin/Bass FTW.

The Hobbit (1977) Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iysdpCL58w0#)

The Hobbit (1977) Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-zI9ztvzn4#)

The Hobbit (1977) Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SGLvAFW2YU#)

The Hobbit (1977) Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyhdRWyYMsk#)

The Hobbit (1977) Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZNRO5pWW8I#)

The Hobbit (1977) Part 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWk37qVIk9I#)

The Hobbit (1977) Part 7 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5hO_wvst8c#)

The Hobbit (1977) Part 8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnmKS-cGt8E#)

The Hobbit (1977) Part 9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0a6_ovNKms#)

Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: willsteele on October 21, 2010, 12:35:53 PM
YES.   Watched this so many times.  Very dark and evil feeling to it.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: sprobeck on October 21, 2010, 12:38:29 PM
I even had the soundtrack. Used to sing along with it. I liked the Gobblins songs the best!!  :rawk:
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on October 21, 2010, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 20, 2010, 12:03:10 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 20, 2010, 11:44:41 AM
It's much more of a "kid's book" than the LOTR trilogy, but still a great read.

True. Having read it a bunch of times, I told the story to my daughter as a series of bedtime stories last year...
I was planning on doing that myself.  How old is(was) your daughter?  And did it keep her interest?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on October 21, 2010, 02:16:55 PM
Quote from: sprobeck on October 21, 2010, 12:38:29 PM
I liked the Gobblins songs the best!!  :rawk:

That song's rawesome!
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: sprobeck on October 21, 2010, 06:01:54 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 21, 2010, 02:16:55 PM
Quote from: sprobeck on October 21, 2010, 12:38:29 PM
I liked the Gobblins songs the best!!  :rawk:

That song's rawesome!

Yeah they have two that are really great. One in the cave and the other after the party as "escaped." The posted clips cuts the second one which is a shame.  Not a huge deal though. It's still there!! Gotta love any tune that begins with a wolf howl!!
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on October 21, 2010, 08:31:53 PM
Quote from: khalpin on October 21, 2010, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 20, 2010, 12:03:10 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 20, 2010, 11:44:41 AM
It's much more of a "kid's book" than the LOTR trilogy, but still a great read.

True. Having read it a bunch of times, I told the story to my daughter as a series of bedtime stories last year...
I was planning on doing that myself.  How old is(was) your daughter?  And did it keep her interest?

Not sure... she was 6 or nearly 6 at the time... It definitely held her interest but that's largely due to my awesome storytelling skills and my glossing over the lesser details. She remembers it reasonably well and, when she saw the Rankin/Bass cartoon she knew The Hobbit as that story Daddy told her.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: twatts on October 21, 2010, 11:41:22 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 21, 2010, 08:31:53 PM
Quote from: khalpin on October 21, 2010, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 20, 2010, 12:03:10 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 20, 2010, 11:44:41 AM
It's much more of a "kid's book" than the LOTR trilogy, but still a great read.

True. Having read it a bunch of times, I told the story to my daughter as a series of bedtime stories last year...
I was planning on doing that myself.  How old is(was) your daughter?  And did it keep her interest?

Not sure... she was 6 or nearly 6 at the time... It definitely held her interest but that's largely due to my awesome storytelling skills and my glossing over the lesser details. She remembers it reasonably well and, when she saw the Rankin/Bass cartoon she knew The Hobbit as that story Daddy told her.

I can't wait until Cody is old enough to enjoy Fantasy like I did...  That's a very good idea to read the Hobbit as a "serial"...  Especially with all the songs!

Terry
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on October 22, 2010, 07:48:23 AM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on October 21, 2010, 11:41:22 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 21, 2010, 08:31:53 PM
Quote from: khalpin on October 21, 2010, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 20, 2010, 12:03:10 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 20, 2010, 11:44:41 AM
It's much more of a "kid's book" than the LOTR trilogy, but still a great read.

True. Having read it a bunch of times, I told the story to my daughter as a series of bedtime stories last year...
I was planning on doing that myself.  How old is(was) your daughter?  And did it keep her interest?

Not sure... she was 6 or nearly 6 at the time... It definitely held her interest but that's largely due to my awesome storytelling skills and my glossing over the lesser details. She remembers it reasonably well and, when she saw the Rankin/Bass cartoon she knew The Hobbit as that story Daddy told her.

I can't wait until Cody is old enough to enjoy Fantasy like I did...  That's a very good idea to read the Hobbit as a "serial"...  Especially with all the songs!

Terry

It worked pretty well but, I didn't read it. I recited the story from memory. This means that the songs were left out of that telling. I had thought that, if I do it again, I might pull out the book and sing the songs.
Or maybe I'll open my sealed copy of this:
(http://www.tolkienguide.com/pictures/music/Poems-Songs-Middle-earth.jpg)
http://goo.gl/8VNA (http://goo.gl/8VNA)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on October 22, 2010, 08:23:32 AM
btw... they have announced some more casting and confirmed that Martin Freeman will play Bilbo!

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2010/10/22/the-hobbit-first-casting-announced/ (http://www.sfx.co.uk/2010/10/22/the-hobbit-first-casting-announced/)

The rest are people you may not have heard of. I've seen the guy playing Thorin in Robin Hood (the bbc version of late) and some of you may have seen the guy playing Dwalin in 24.

Either way, shooting begins in February...


Psyched.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on October 22, 2010, 08:23:50 AM
Then it would no longer be a collectible.  NOOOO!!!!

(http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/content/pictures/regulars/ComicBookGuy5.gif)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on October 22, 2010, 09:35:22 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 22, 2010, 07:48:23 AM
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on October 21, 2010, 11:41:22 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 21, 2010, 08:31:53 PM
Quote from: khalpin on October 21, 2010, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 20, 2010, 12:03:10 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 20, 2010, 11:44:41 AM
It's much more of a "kid's book" than the LOTR trilogy, but still a great read.

True. Having read it a bunch of times, I told the story to my daughter as a series of bedtime stories last year...
I was planning on doing that myself.  How old is(was) your daughter?  And did it keep her interest?

Not sure... she was 6 or nearly 6 at the time... It definitely held her interest but that's largely due to my awesome storytelling skills and my glossing over the lesser details. She remembers it reasonably well and, when she saw the Rankin/Bass cartoon she knew The Hobbit as that story Daddy told her.

I can't wait until Cody is old enough to enjoy Fantasy like I did...  That's a very good idea to read the Hobbit as a "serial"...  Especially with all the songs!

Terry

It worked pretty well but, I didn't read it. I recited the story from memory. This means that the songs were left out of that telling. I had thought that, if I do it again, I might pull out the book and sing the songs.
Or maybe I'll open my sealed copy of this:
(http://www.tolkienguide.com/pictures/music/Poems-Songs-Middle-earth.jpg)
http://goo.gl/8VNA (http://goo.gl/8VNA)
my dad has that album tucked away somewhere(vinyl of course), i remember we played it during xmas when i was like 10

o wait just playin, my dad has the one where its only songs, no poems.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: willsteele on October 22, 2010, 09:38:53 AM
That dude is perfect for Bilbo.

Wonder who is up for Beorn.  Or will there be a Beorn?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on October 22, 2010, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: willsteele on October 22, 2010, 09:38:53 AM
That dude is perfect for Bilbo.

Wonder who is up for Beorn.  Or will there be a Beorn?

If there were anything that could be cut out... It would be Beorn. But I hope not.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on October 22, 2010, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 22, 2010, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: willsteele on October 22, 2010, 09:38:53 AM
That dude is perfect for Bilbo.

Wonder who is up for Beorn.  Or will there be a Beorn?

If there were anything that could be cut out... It would be Beorn. But I hope not.

He was cut out of the Rankin/Bass cartoon, but I'm betting Peter Jackson will have him in the movie, he payed lots of attention to the LOTR books.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Hicks on October 22, 2010, 02:49:09 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 22, 2010, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 22, 2010, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: willsteele on October 22, 2010, 09:38:53 AM
That dude is perfect for Bilbo.

Wonder who is up for Beorn.  Or will there be a Beorn?

If there were anything that could be cut out... It would be Beorn. But I hope not.

He was cut out of the Rankin/Bass cartoon, but I'm betting Peter Jackson will have him in the movie, he payed lots of attention to the LOTR books.

*cough* Tom Bombadill *cough*
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: qop24 on October 22, 2010, 02:50:45 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 22, 2010, 02:49:09 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 22, 2010, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 22, 2010, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: willsteele on October 22, 2010, 09:38:53 AM
That dude is perfect for Bilbo.

Wonder who is up for Beorn.  Or will there be a Beorn?

If there were anything that could be cut out... It would be Beorn. But I hope not.

He was cut out of the Rankin/Bass cartoon, but I'm betting Peter Jackson will have him in the movie, he payed lots of attention to the LOTR books.

*cough* Tom Bombadill *cough*

wasn't he in an extended version or am i totally making that up
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on October 22, 2010, 02:52:00 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 22, 2010, 02:49:09 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 22, 2010, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 22, 2010, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: willsteele on October 22, 2010, 09:38:53 AM
That dude is perfect for Bilbo.

Wonder who is up for Beorn.  Or will there be a Beorn?

If there were anything that could be cut out... It would be Beorn. But I hope not.

He was cut out of the Rankin/Bass cartoon, but I'm betting Peter Jackson will have him in the movie, he payed lots of attention to the LOTR books.

*cough* Tom Bombadill *cough*

Shit! I forgot about him.  :oops:

And he was pretty important in the books. So maybe Beorn won't be in the movie.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on October 22, 2010, 02:55:14 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 22, 2010, 02:50:45 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 22, 2010, 02:49:09 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 22, 2010, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 22, 2010, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: willsteele on October 22, 2010, 09:38:53 AM
That dude is perfect for Bilbo.

Wonder who is up for Beorn.  Or will there be a Beorn?

If there were anything that could be cut out... It would be Beorn. But I hope not.

He was cut out of the Rankin/Bass cartoon, but I'm betting Peter Jackson will have him in the movie, he payed lots of attention to the LOTR books.

*cough* Tom Bombadill *cough*

wasn't he in an extended version or am i totally making that up

Nope, you made it up.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on October 22, 2010, 03:04:02 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 22, 2010, 02:49:09 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 22, 2010, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 22, 2010, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: willsteele on October 22, 2010, 09:38:53 AM
That dude is perfect for Bilbo.

Wonder who is up for Beorn.  Or will there be a Beorn?

If there were anything that could be cut out... It would be Beorn. But I hope not.

He was cut out of the Rankin/Bass cartoon, but I'm betting Peter Jackson will have him in the movie, he payed lots of attention to the LOTR books.

*cough* Tom Bombadill *cough*

This.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: qop24 on October 22, 2010, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 22, 2010, 02:55:14 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 22, 2010, 02:50:45 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 22, 2010, 02:49:09 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 22, 2010, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 22, 2010, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: willsteele on October 22, 2010, 09:38:53 AM
That dude is perfect for Bilbo.

Wonder who is up for Beorn.  Or will there be a Beorn?

If there were anything that could be cut out... It would be Beorn. But I hope not.

He was cut out of the Rankin/Bass cartoon, but I'm betting Peter Jackson will have him in the movie, he payed lots of attention to the LOTR books.

*cough* Tom Bombadill *cough*

wasn't he in an extended version or am i totally making that up

Nope, you made it up.

well this fake movie in my head is pretty awesome then...
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on October 22, 2010, 04:47:36 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 22, 2010, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 22, 2010, 02:55:14 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 22, 2010, 02:50:45 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 22, 2010, 02:49:09 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on October 22, 2010, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 22, 2010, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: willsteele on October 22, 2010, 09:38:53 AM
That dude is perfect for Bilbo.

Wonder who is up for Beorn.  Or will there be a Beorn?

If there were anything that could be cut out... It would be Beorn. But I hope not.

He was cut out of the Rankin/Bass cartoon, but I'm betting Peter Jackson will have him in the movie, he payed lots of attention to the LOTR books.

*cough* Tom Bombadill *cough*

wasn't he in an extended version or am i totally making that up

Nope, you made it up.

well this fake movie in my head is pretty awesome then...
All the fake movies in my head involve me being the star of a porn flick.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: willsteele on October 22, 2010, 05:00:34 PM
If they left all the stuff in that was in the books that didnt make it to the movie..  they'd all be 5 hours long.  It would be awesome.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on October 26, 2010, 09:11:08 AM
Hobbit crisis talks end without resolution. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11625152)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on October 27, 2010, 08:59:48 AM
The Hobbit will be filmed in New Zealand. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11633724)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: willsteele on October 27, 2010, 09:24:35 AM
niiiice.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on October 27, 2010, 10:18:35 AM
/me heads to camp out at the local cinema
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: qop24 on October 27, 2010, 10:32:30 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 27, 2010, 10:18:35 AM
/me heads to camp out at the local cinema

cmon RJ, it's not a Twilight movie! It's just The Hobbit  :-P
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: willsteele on October 27, 2010, 11:02:14 AM
Wondering....  those of you that have the book/books....  do you have paperback editions or the nice hardcovers? 

Somehow during all my moving around in the past year or so my little paperback box set is gone and I need to get at least the Hobbit and LOTR again... thinking of going hardcover this time.  There are just so many editions/prints/reprints, etc. out there though...  hard to decide.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on October 27, 2010, 11:30:26 AM
Quote from: qop24 on October 27, 2010, 10:32:30 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 27, 2010, 10:18:35 AM
/me heads to camp out at the local cinema

cmon RJ, it's not a Twilight movie! It's just The Hobbit  :-P

Still watching 16 and Pregnant?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on October 27, 2010, 12:08:10 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 27, 2010, 11:30:26 AM
Quote from: qop24 on October 27, 2010, 10:32:30 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 27, 2010, 10:18:35 AM
/me heads to camp out at the local cinema

cmon RJ, it's not a Twilight movie! It's just The Hobbit  :-P

Still watching 16 and Pregnant?

LOL
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on October 27, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 27, 2010, 11:30:26 AM
Quote from: qop24 on October 27, 2010, 10:32:30 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 27, 2010, 10:18:35 AM
/me heads to camp out at the local cinema

cmon RJ, it's not a Twilight movie! It's just The Hobbit  :-P

Still watching 16 and Pregnant?
idk why but when i was baked yesterday my friends were watching that shit when I came in, THOSE BITCHES ARE SO WHINEY AND STUPID.

bitch was in class on the first day of school, shes like "teacher i cant do this anymore, i dont feel right"

her water broke, and she had her kid 5 week early. If i were that girl's parents i would not let her keep it, she is pretty dumb and i wouldnt trust her haha

BACK ON TOPIC: im really diggin the new zeland news, i think thats gonna be put on my bucket-list, go backpacking in new zeland before i die, that place is so beautiful. and plus i could just stroll on into mordor, cause thats where it is right? no green screens were used in the original LOTR movies right?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: qop24 on October 27, 2010, 01:13:14 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 27, 2010, 11:30:26 AM
Quote from: qop24 on October 27, 2010, 10:32:30 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 27, 2010, 10:18:35 AM
/me heads to camp out at the local cinema

cmon RJ, it's not a Twilight movie! It's just The Hobbit  :-P

Still watching 16 and Pregnant?

actually i took a break so i could watch this hannah montana dvd
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VDB on October 28, 2010, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 27, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
BACK ON TOPIC: im really diggin the new zeland news, i think thats gonna be put on my bucket-list, go backpacking in new zeland before i die, that place is so beautiful. and plus i could just stroll on into mordor, cause thats where it is right? no green screens were used in the original LOTR movies right?

Yup, and I hear you can rent giant eagles by the hour or the day for an aerial tour of Minas Tirith.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:32:20 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 28, 2010, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 27, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
BACK ON TOPIC: im really diggin the new zeland news, i think thats gonna be put on my bucket-list, go backpacking in new zeland before i die, that place is so beautiful. and plus i could just stroll on into mordor, cause thats where it is right? no green screens were used in the original LOTR movies right?

Yup, and I hear you can rent giant eagles by the hour or the day for an aerial tour of Minas Tirith.

i recommend staying in the Ent mobile-treehouse-hotel
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on October 28, 2010, 01:33:21 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:32:20 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 28, 2010, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 27, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
BACK ON TOPIC: im really diggin the new zeland news, i think thats gonna be put on my bucket-list, go backpacking in new zeland before i die, that place is so beautiful. and plus i could just stroll on into mordor, cause thats where it is right? no green screens were used in the original LOTR movies right?

Yup, and I hear you can rent giant eagles by the hour or the day for an aerial tour of Minas Tirith.

i recommend staying in the Ent mobile-treehouse-hotel
wow these sound like some GREAT places, i guess ill have to get my own skinny naked midget to guide me around
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on October 28, 2010, 01:35:04 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 28, 2010, 01:33:21 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:32:20 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 28, 2010, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 27, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
BACK ON TOPIC: im really diggin the new zeland news, i think thats gonna be put on my bucket-list, go backpacking in new zeland before i die, that place is so beautiful. and plus i could just stroll on into mordor, cause thats where it is right? no green screens were used in the original LOTR movies right?

Yup, and I hear you can rent giant eagles by the hour or the day for an aerial tour of Minas Tirith.

i recommend staying in the Ent mobile-treehouse-hotel
wow these sound like some GREAT places, i guess ill have to get my own skinny naked midget to guide me around

Don't do it!
He'll rip you off, at best. Most likely, he'll lead you to your doom and laugh about it all the way.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on October 28, 2010, 01:37:47 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 28, 2010, 01:35:04 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 28, 2010, 01:33:21 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:32:20 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 28, 2010, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 27, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
BACK ON TOPIC: im really diggin the new zeland news, i think thats gonna be put on my bucket-list, go backpacking in new zeland before i die, that place is so beautiful. and plus i could just stroll on into mordor, cause thats where it is right? no green screens were used in the original LOTR movies right?

Yup, and I hear you can rent giant eagles by the hour or the day for an aerial tour of Minas Tirith.

i recommend staying in the Ent mobile-treehouse-hotel
wow these sound like some GREAT places, i guess ill have to get my own skinny naked midget to guide me around

Don't do it!
He'll rip you off, at best. Most likely, he'll lead you to your doom and laugh about it all the way.
really? all that talking in 2 diff voices to himself at night, a history of scheming on trying to steal this ring i have didnt really seem like sketchy behavior

man i find that really disappointing he seemed like a great guy
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:38:07 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 28, 2010, 01:33:21 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:32:20 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 28, 2010, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 27, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
BACK ON TOPIC: im really diggin the new zeland news, i think thats gonna be put on my bucket-list, go backpacking in new zeland before i die, that place is so beautiful. and plus i could just stroll on into mordor, cause thats where it is right? no green screens were used in the original LOTR movies right?

Yup, and I hear you can rent giant eagles by the hour or the day for an aerial tour of Minas Tirith.

i recommend staying in the Ent mobile-treehouse-hotel
wow these sound like some GREAT places, i guess ill have to get my own skinny naked midget to guide me around

this is your 2nd schizo post in as many days, you should see a doctor
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on October 28, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:38:07 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 28, 2010, 01:33:21 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:32:20 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 28, 2010, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 27, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
BACK ON TOPIC: im really diggin the new zeland news, i think thats gonna be put on my bucket-list, go backpacking in new zeland before i die, that place is so beautiful. and plus i could just stroll on into mordor, cause thats where it is right? no green screens were used in the original LOTR movies right?

Yup, and I hear you can rent giant eagles by the hour or the day for an aerial tour of Minas Tirith.

i recommend staying in the Ent mobile-treehouse-hotel
wow these sound like some GREAT places, i guess ill have to get my own skinny naked midget to guide me around

this is your 2nd schizo post in as many days, you should see a doctor
wait im not catching this one... elaborate (or just quote)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:46:22 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 28, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:38:07 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 28, 2010, 01:33:21 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:32:20 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 28, 2010, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 27, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
BACK ON TOPIC: im really diggin the new zeland news, i think thats gonna be put on my bucket-list, go backpacking in new zeland before i die, that place is so beautiful. and plus i could just stroll on into mordor, cause thats where it is right? no green screens were used in the original LOTR movies right?

Yup, and I hear you can rent giant eagles by the hour or the day for an aerial tour of Minas Tirith.

i recommend staying in the Ent mobile-treehouse-hotel
wow these sound like some GREAT places, i guess ill have to get my own skinny naked midget to guide me around

this is your 2nd schizo post in as many days, you should see a doctor
wait im not catching this one... elaborate (or just quote)

i'm accusing you of being a skinny naked midget guide who has an alter ego of a skinny naked midget guide

man you really do need help, maybe Phishhead92's mom needs to find out about this ailment...
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on October 28, 2010, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:46:22 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 28, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:38:07 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 28, 2010, 01:33:21 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:32:20 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 28, 2010, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 27, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
BACK ON TOPIC: im really diggin the new zeland news, i think thats gonna be put on my bucket-list, go backpacking in new zeland before i die, that place is so beautiful. and plus i could just stroll on into mordor, cause thats where it is right? no green screens were used in the original LOTR movies right?

Yup, and I hear you can rent giant eagles by the hour or the day for an aerial tour of Minas Tirith.

i recommend staying in the Ent mobile-treehouse-hotel
wow these sound like some GREAT places, i guess ill have to get my own skinny naked midget to guide me around

this is your 2nd schizo post in as many days, you should see a doctor
wait im not catching this one... elaborate (or just quote)

i'm accusing you of being a skinny naked midget guide who has an alter ego of a skinny naked midget guide

man you really do need help, maybe Phishhead92's mom needs to find out about this ailment...
but in not really skinny, or a midget, and i can say i have clothes on about like 95% of the time
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 02:01:46 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 28, 2010, 02:00:22 PM
but in not really skinny, or a midget, and i can say i have clothes on about like 95% of the time

i guess i could have guessed that you are rarely naked given the content of your other threads  :-P
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on October 28, 2010, 02:03:13 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 02:01:46 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 28, 2010, 02:00:22 PM
but in not really skinny, or a midget, and i can say i have clothes on about like 95% of the time

i guess i could have guessed that you are rarely naked given the content of your other threads  :-P
OH HA-HA

WHAT A LAUGH RIOT



no... not at all
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: phishhead92s mom on October 28, 2010, 05:32:48 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:46:22 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 28, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:38:07 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 28, 2010, 01:33:21 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 01:32:20 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on October 28, 2010, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 27, 2010, 12:26:28 PM
BACK ON TOPIC: im really diggin the new zeland news, i think thats gonna be put on my bucket-list, go backpacking in new zeland before i die, that place is so beautiful. and plus i could just stroll on into mordor, cause thats where it is right? no green screens were used in the original LOTR movies right?

Yup, and I hear you can rent giant eagles by the hour or the day for an aerial tour of Minas Tirith.

i recommend staying in the Ent mobile-treehouse-hotel
wow these sound like some GREAT places, i guess ill have to get my own skinny naked midget to guide me around

this is your 2nd schizo post in as many days, you should see a doctor
wait im not catching this one... elaborate (or just quote)

i'm accusing you of being a skinny naked midget guide who has an alter ego of a skinny naked midget guide

man you really do need help, maybe Phishhead92's mom needs to find out about this ailment...

I'm going to call Dr. Gable right now, then we'll see if we can't fix this problem.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on October 28, 2010, 07:26:46 PM
Quote from: qop24 on October 28, 2010, 02:01:46 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on October 28, 2010, 02:00:22 PM
but in not really skinny, or a midget, and i can say i have clothes on about like 95% of the time

i guess i could have guessed that you are rarely naked given the content of your other threads  :-P

:clap:

Well played!
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on October 29, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
New Zealand's parliament has passed legislation that will keep the production of two Hobbit films in the country.  (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11649734)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on March 22, 2011, 12:32:07 PM
5 Month bump and....


shooting has begun!

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/The-Hobbit-Begins-Filming-First-Photo-From-The-New-Zealand-Set-23764.html

(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/23764/_1300657655.jpg)


see also: http://www.thehobbitblog.com/
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on March 22, 2011, 01:12:53 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 22, 2011, 12:32:07 PM
5 Month bump and....


shooting has begun!

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/The-Hobbit-Begins-Filming-First-Photo-From-The-New-Zealand-Set-23764.html

(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/23764/_1300657655.jpg)


see also: http://www.thehobbitblog.com/

:crazy:

Psyched!
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on March 22, 2011, 01:25:59 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 22, 2011, 12:32:07 PM
5 Month bump and....


shooting has begun!

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/The-Hobbit-Begins-Filming-First-Photo-From-The-New-Zealand-Set-23764.html

(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/23764/_1300657655.jpg)


see also: http://www.thehobbitblog.com/
Rawesome!

Also I think they should remake LOTR, and do the Hobbit right by making each book into 2 seperate 3 hour movies (at least) so we can get all the details. Like they are doing for harry potter.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: gah on March 23, 2011, 01:07:56 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 22, 2011, 01:12:53 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 22, 2011, 12:32:07 PM
5 Month bump and....


shooting has begun!

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/The-Hobbit-Begins-Filming-First-Photo-From-The-New-Zealand-Set-23764.html

(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/23764/_1300657655.jpg)


see also: http://www.thehobbitblog.com/

:crazy:

Psyched!

Maybe not  :crazy: psyched, but psyched nonetheless.  :-D
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: qop24 on March 28, 2011, 08:38:38 AM
Quote from: phishhead92 on March 22, 2011, 01:25:59 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 22, 2011, 12:32:07 PM
5 Month bump and....


shooting has begun!

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/The-Hobbit-Begins-Filming-First-Photo-From-The-New-Zealand-Set-23764.html

(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/23764/_1300657655.jpg)


see also: http://www.thehobbitblog.com/
Rawesome!

Also I think they should remake LOTR, and do the Hobbit right by making each book into 2 seperate 3 hour movies (at least) so we can get all the details. Like they are doing for harry potter.

why would they remake LOTR....
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on March 28, 2011, 08:52:02 AM
Quote from: qop24 on March 28, 2011, 08:38:38 AM
Quote from: phishhead92 on March 22, 2011, 01:25:59 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 22, 2011, 12:32:07 PM
5 Month bump and....


shooting has begun!

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/The-Hobbit-Begins-Filming-First-Photo-From-The-New-Zealand-Set-23764.html

(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/23764/_1300657655.jpg)


see also: http://www.thehobbitblog.com/
Rawesome!

Also I think they should remake LOTR, and do the Hobbit right by making each book into 2 seperate 3 hour movies (at least) so we can get all the details. Like they are doing for harry potter.

why would they remake LOTR....
I was wondering that, as well, but figured since there's no possible correct answer, why bother asking?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VA $l!m on March 28, 2011, 09:55:37 AM
Quote from: phishhead92 on March 22, 2011, 01:25:59 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 22, 2011, 12:32:07 PM
5 Month bump and....


shooting has begun!

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/The-Hobbit-Begins-Filming-First-Photo-From-The-New-Zealand-Set-23764.html

(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/23764/_1300657655.jpg)


see also: http://www.thehobbitblog.com/
Rawesome!

Also I think they should remake LOTR, and do the Hobbit right by making each book into 2 seperate 3 hour movies (at least) so we can get all the details. Like they are doing for harry potter.

could u do me a small favor and never mention the H. P. in a tolkien thread again?naseua and all... k thx. bye.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on March 28, 2011, 09:56:58 AM
Kid is way out to snacks. The Hobbit is being made into two movies already.

I just rewatched The Fellowship extended edition over the weekend.... Good stuff.

I can't wait to see how The Hobbit shakes out.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Multibeast12 on March 29, 2011, 01:02:47 AM
Very excited for this. But must say, more excited for.......Del Toros, At the mountains of Madness. I enjoy Lovecraft over tolkien as a writer.

But anyway, got some high hopes for this movie and that hasn't happened in a while for me and movies.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on March 29, 2011, 06:04:49 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 28, 2011, 09:56:58 AM
Kid is way out to snacks. The Hobbit is being made into two movies already.

I just rewatched The Fellowship extended edition over the weekend.... Good stuff.

I can't wait to see how The Hobbit shakes out.

The Extended versions of the LOTR trilogy are awesome. I need to find 12 empty hours so I can go back and watch them all again.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on March 30, 2011, 09:40:18 AM
Quote from: mistercharlie on March 29, 2011, 06:04:49 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 28, 2011, 09:56:58 AM
Kid is way out to snacks. The Hobbit is being made into two movies already.

I just rewatched The Fellowship extended edition over the weekend.... Good stuff.

I can't wait to see how The Hobbit shakes out.

The Extended versions of the LOTR trilogy are awesome. I need to find 12 empty hours so I can go back and watch them all again.
I know they are awesome, but after reading the books you realize how goddamn much they left out... and its not like Peter Jackson cant get an un-fucking-reasonable amount of money to go back and fill in some holes :-D

Sorry Slim, I dont even really enjoy those books/movies but I just used them as an example.

Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on March 30, 2011, 09:40:18 AM
Quote from: mistercharlie on March 29, 2011, 06:04:49 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 28, 2011, 09:56:58 AM
Kid is way out to snacks. The Hobbit is being made into two movies already.

I just rewatched The Fellowship extended edition over the weekend.... Good stuff.

I can't wait to see how The Hobbit shakes out.

The Extended versions of the LOTR trilogy are awesome. I need to find 12 empty hours so I can go back and watch them all again.
I know they are awesome, but after reading the books you realize how goddamn much they left out... and its not like Peter Jackson cant get an un-fucking-reasonable amount of money to go back and fill in some holes :-D

Sorry Slim, I dont even really enjoy those books/movies but I just used them as an example.

Having read all of the books and understanding something of film, I think that Jackson did the best possible job with the material.

"Holes" are inevitable.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on March 31, 2011, 04:13:48 PM
IMO, Jackson did a phenominal job.  Those films would each have to be 6 hours long in order fill in any holes.  Even I would have a hard time sitting through that and I LOVE all of the books.  Unfortunately, ADD wins most of the time. 
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 04:32:26 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 31, 2011, 04:13:48 PM
IMO, Jackson did a phenominal job.  Those films would each have to be 6 hours long in order fill in any holes.  Even I would have a hard time sitting through that and I LOVE all of the books.  Unfortunately, ADD wins most of the time.

Even without ADD it would be hard to sit through a 6 hour movie. Hell, the last time I watched the extended versions of the movies I usually took and 'intermission' halfway through just to get up and move around.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 04:39:22 PM
I really don't see how the LOTR movies could have possibly been better, maybe a better actor as Frodo, but that's fairly nit picky.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 04:40:34 PM
Quote from: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 04:39:22 PM
I really don't see how the LOTR movies could have possibly been better, maybe a better actor as Frodo, but that's fairly nit picky.

I'm with you there, just not a big Elijah fan. But atleast they didn't cast Hayden Christiansen, boy do I hate him.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on March 31, 2011, 04:43:15 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 04:32:26 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 31, 2011, 04:13:48 PM
IMO, Jackson did a phenominal job.  Those films would each have to be 6 hours long in order fill in any holes.  Even I would have a hard time sitting through that and I LOVE all of the books.  Unfortunately, ADD wins most of the time.

Even without ADD it would be hard to sit through a 6 hour movie. Hell, the last time I watched the extended versions of the movies I usually took and 'intermission' halfway through just to get up and move around.
I've never made it through one of the Extended Versions in one sitting.  Compared to the regular versions, the pace is definitely slowed down on the extended versions.  Some of the added scenes like Saruman's death are priceless and I'm so happy that the extended versions exist.  But to include "everything" would make for an unwatchable movie.  Unless you're a college student with nothing but drugs and free time.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 04:45:08 PM
Quote from: khalpin on March 31, 2011, 04:43:15 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 04:32:26 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 31, 2011, 04:13:48 PM
IMO, Jackson did a phenominal job.  Those films would each have to be 6 hours long in order fill in any holes.  Even I would have a hard time sitting through that and I LOVE all of the books.  Unfortunately, ADD wins most of the time.

Even without ADD it would be hard to sit through a 6 hour movie. Hell, the last time I watched the extended versions of the movies I usually took and 'intermission' halfway through just to get up and move around.
I've never made it through one of the Extended Versions in one sitting.  Compared to the regular versions, the pace is definitely slowed down on the extended versions.  Some of the added scenes like Saruman's death are priceless and I'm so happy that the extended versions exist.  But to include "everything" would make for an unwatchable movie.  Unless you're a college student with nothing but drugs and free time.

Ahh, the good ol' days.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 04:46:15 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 04:40:34 PM
Quote from: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 04:39:22 PM
I really don't see how the LOTR movies could have possibly been better, maybe a better actor as Frodo, but that's fairly nit picky.

I'm with you there, just not a big Elijah fan. But atleast they didn't cast Hayden Christiansen, boy do I hate him.

ugh, yeah he sucks so hard that he's only made like one movie since Revenge of the Sith I think.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: kellerb on March 31, 2011, 07:14:42 PM
Quote from: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 04:46:15 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 04:40:34 PM
Quote from: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 04:39:22 PM
I really don't see how the LOTR movies could have possibly been better, maybe a better actor as Frodo, but that's fairly nit picky.

I'm with you there, just not a big Elijah fan. But atleast they didn't cast Hayden Christiansen, boy do I hate him.

ugh, yeah he sucks so hard that he's only made like one movie since Revenge of the Sith I think.

Also the reason that Natalie Portman has made plenty of movies since then.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on April 01, 2011, 06:41:16 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 04:45:08 PM
Quote from: khalpin on March 31, 2011, 04:43:15 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 04:32:26 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 31, 2011, 04:13:48 PM
IMO, Jackson did a phenominal job.  Those films would each have to be 6 hours long in order fill in any holes.  Even I would have a hard time sitting through that and I LOVE all of the books.  Unfortunately, ADD wins most of the time.

Even without ADD it would be hard to sit through a 6 hour movie. Hell, the last time I watched the extended versions of the movies I usually took and 'intermission' halfway through just to get up and move around.
I've never made it through one of the Extended Versions in one sitting.  Compared to the regular versions, the pace is definitely slowed down on the extended versions.  Some of the added scenes like Saruman's death are priceless and I'm so happy that the extended versions exist.  But to include "everything" would make for an unwatchable movie.  Unless you're a college student with nothing but drugs and free time.

Ahh, the good ol' days.
Don't you go to school?

You can relive the glory days my friend! Cinci is only a short distance away and we can have you doing a kegstand in no time! (Could you pick it up for us though?)

Also I'm not saying the current movies are bad, I'm jsut saying it would be awesome if they did that! I have watched the extended editions all the way through (sometimes all 3 in a day) more times than I can count.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on April 01, 2011, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on April 01, 2011, 06:41:16 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 04:45:08 PM
Quote from: khalpin on March 31, 2011, 04:43:15 PM
Unless you're a college student with nothing but drugs and free time.

Ahh, the good ol' days.
Don't you go to school?


Yes, and I first went to college 10 years ago, but drugs and time free time made me take a decade off, now it's back to school.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on April 02, 2011, 10:08:31 AM
Quote from: mistercharlie on April 01, 2011, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on April 01, 2011, 06:41:16 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 04:45:08 PM
Quote from: khalpin on March 31, 2011, 04:43:15 PM
Unless you're a college student with nothing but drugs and free time.

Ahh, the good ol' days.
Don't you go to school?


Yes, and I first went to college 10 years ago, but drugs and time free time made me take a decade off, now it's back to school.
Fine... be boring. Excuses dude... excuses. ;-)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on May 27, 2011, 03:12:15 PM
QuoteThis just in from Warner Bros... Director Peter Jackson has confirmed that Orlando Bloom will reprise the role of the Legolas—the role he played in THE LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy—in the epic two-part screen adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's THE HOBBIT, now filming in New Zealand.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on May 27, 2011, 04:16:21 PM
^ Sweet.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on May 27, 2011, 04:45:18 PM
Well, that guarantees a couple of ridiculous action sequences.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on May 27, 2011, 05:21:19 PM
Quote from: khalpin on May 27, 2011, 04:45:18 PM
Well, that guarantees a couple of ridiculous action sequences.
Noice...
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on May 30, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
New Line Cinema, Warner Bros. Pictures and MGM have announced the titles and release dates for filmmaker Peter Jackson's two-film adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's enduringly popular masterpiece THE HOBBIT.  The first film, titled "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey," will be released on December 14, 2012.  The second film, titled "The Hobbit: There and Back Again," is slated for release the following year, on December 13, 2013.

Both films are set in Middle-earth 60 years before Tolkien's THE LORD OF THE RINGS, which Jackson and his filmmaking team brought to the big screen in the blockbuster trilogy that culminated with the Oscar-winning "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King."  The adventure of THE HOBBIT follows the journey of title character Bilbo Baggins, who is swept into an epic quest to reclaim the lost Dwarf Kingdom of Erebor from the fearsome dragon Smaug.


Under Jackson's direction, both movies are being shot consecutively in digital 3D using the latest camera and stereo technology.  Filming is taking place at Stone Street Studios, Wellington, and on location around New Zealand.

Ian McKellen returns as Gandalf the Grey, the character he played in THE LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy, and Martin Freeman, who just won a BAFTA TV Award for Best Supporting Actor for his role in the BBC series "Sherlock," takes on the central role of Bilbo Baggins.  Also reprising their roles from THE LORD OF THE RINGS movies are: Cate Blanchett as Galadriel; Orlando Bloom as Legolas; Ian Holm as the elder Bilbo; Christopher Lee as Saruman; Hugo Weaving as Elrond; Elijah Wood as Frodo; and Andy Serkis as Gollum.

The ensemble cast also includes (in alphabetical order) Richard Armitage, Jed Brophy, Adam Brown, John Callen, Stephen Fry, Ryan Gage, Mark Hadlow, Peter Hambleton, Stephen Hunter, William Kircher, Sylvester McCoy, Bret McKenzie, Graham McTavish, Mike Mizrahi, James Nesbitt, Dean O'Gorman, Lee Pace, Mikael Persbrandt, Conan Stevens, Ken Stott, Jeffrey Thomas, and Aidan Turner.

The screenplays for THE HOBBIT films are by Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens, Guillermo del Toro and Peter Jackson.  Jackson is also producing the films, together with Fran Walsh and Carolynne Cunningham.  The executive producers are Ken Kamins and Zane Weiner, with Philippa Boyens serving as co-producer.

THE HOBBIT films are productions of New Line Cinema and MGM, with New Line managing production.  Warner Bros Pictures is handling worldwide theatrical distribution, with select international territories as well as all international television licensing being handled by MGM.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on May 30, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on May 30, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
New Line Cinema, Warner Bros. Pictures and MGM have announced the titles and release dates for filmmaker Peter Jackson's two-film adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's enduringly popular masterpiece THE HOBBIT.  The first film, titled "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey," will be released on December 14, 2012.  The second film, titled "The Hobbit: There and Back Again," is slated for release the following year, on December 13, 2013.

Both films are set in Middle-earth 60 years before Tolkien's THE LORD OF THE RINGS, which Jackson and his filmmaking team brought to the big screen in the blockbuster trilogy that culminated with the Oscar-winning "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King."  The adventure of THE HOBBIT follows the journey of title character Bilbo Baggins, who is swept into an epic quest to reclaim the lost Dwarf Kingdom of Erebor from the fearsome dragon Smaug.


Under Jackson's direction, both movies are being shot consecutively in digital 3D using the latest camera and stereo technology.  Filming is taking place at Stone Street Studios, Wellington, and on location around New Zealand.

Ian McKellen returns as Gandalf the Grey, the character he played in THE LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy, and Martin Freeman, who just won a BAFTA TV Award for Best Supporting Actor for his role in the BBC series "Sherlock," takes on the central role of Bilbo Baggins.  Also reprising their roles from THE LORD OF THE RINGS movies are: Cate Blanchett as Galadriel; Orlando Bloom as Legolas; Ian Holm as the elder Bilbo; Christopher Lee as Saruman; Hugo Weaving as Elrond; Elijah Wood as Frodo; and Andy Serkis as Gollum.

The ensemble cast also includes (in alphabetical order) Richard Armitage, Jed Brophy, Adam Brown, John Callen, Stephen Fry, Ryan Gage, Mark Hadlow, Peter Hambleton, Stephen Hunter, William Kircher, Sylvester McCoy, Bret McKenzie, Graham McTavish, Mike Mizrahi, James Nesbitt, Dean O'Gorman, Lee Pace, Mikael Persbrandt, Conan Stevens, Ken Stott, Jeffrey Thomas, and Aidan Turner.

The screenplays for THE HOBBIT films are by Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens, Guillermo del Toro and Peter Jackson.  Jackson is also producing the films, together with Fran Walsh and Carolynne Cunningham.  The executive producers are Ken Kamins and Zane Weiner, with Philippa Boyens serving as co-producer.

THE HOBBIT films are productions of New Line Cinema and MGM, with New Line managing production.  Warner Bros Pictures is handling worldwide theatrical distribution, with select international territories as well as all international television licensing being handled by MGM.

Great news!  Looks like I have ample time to read The Hobbit to my son before the movies come out.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: gah on May 31, 2011, 09:46:35 AM
Oh man! We're still looking at a year and a half away? I thought they were further along on this....ah well, yeah, ample time to give it another read.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Igbo on May 31, 2011, 10:32:11 AM
Quote from: goodabouthood on May 31, 2011, 09:46:35 AM
Oh man! We're still looking at a year and a half away? I thought they were further along on this....ah well, yeah, ample time to give it another read.

Funny, i thought the same thing so started reading it again yesterday at the pool.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: gah on May 31, 2011, 10:50:27 AM
Quote from: Igbo on May 31, 2011, 10:32:11 AM
Quote from: goodabouthood on May 31, 2011, 09:46:35 AM
Oh man! We're still looking at a year and a half away? I thought they were further along on this....ah well, yeah, ample time to give it another read.

Funny, i thought the same thing so started reading it again yesterday at the pool.

Yup. Finishing up Satchmo right now, then Kitchen Confidential, then this'll be next...been reading a lot more over the last couple weeks. Forgot how much I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Igbo on May 31, 2011, 11:04:33 AM
Quote from: goodabouthood on May 31, 2011, 10:50:27 AM
Quote from: Igbo on May 31, 2011, 10:32:11 AM
Quote from: goodabouthood on May 31, 2011, 09:46:35 AM
Oh man! We're still looking at a year and a half away? I thought they were further along on this....ah well, yeah, ample time to give it another read.

Funny, i thought the same thing so started reading it again yesterday at the pool.

Yup. Finishing up Satchmo right now, then Kitchen Confidential, then this'll be next...been reading a lot more over the last couple weeks. Forgot how much I enjoyed it.

Good read. He's funny as hell imo. You will never eat hollandaise again.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: gah on May 31, 2011, 11:25:11 AM
Quote from: Igbo on May 31, 2011, 11:04:33 AM
Quote from: goodabouthood on May 31, 2011, 10:50:27 AM
Quote from: Igbo on May 31, 2011, 10:32:11 AM
Quote from: goodabouthood on May 31, 2011, 09:46:35 AM
Oh man! We're still looking at a year and a half away? I thought they were further along on this....ah well, yeah, ample time to give it another read.

Funny, i thought the same thing so started reading it again yesterday at the pool.

Yup. Finishing up Satchmo right now, then Kitchen Confidential, then this'll be next...been reading a lot more over the last couple weeks. Forgot how much I enjoyed it.

Good read. He's funny as hell imo. You will never eat hollandaise again.

Oh yeah, I think he's hilarious! I love No Reservations, and already read A Cook's Tour, just missed Kitchen Confidential somehow.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on May 31, 2011, 11:25:31 AM
YAAAYYY!! MY DREAM CAME TRUE!!! 2 Movies for ultimate coverage.

But, I should read Silmarillion>Hobbit>LOTR this summer, along with some books RJ told me to read.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Igbo on May 31, 2011, 11:39:39 AM
Quote from: phishhead92 on May 31, 2011, 11:25:31 AM

along with some books RJ told me to read.

Sounds dangerous

(http://www.theepochtimes.com/news_images/2005-5-8-china-army-red-book-43.jpg)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on May 31, 2011, 11:43:06 AM
Quote from: Igbo on May 31, 2011, 11:39:39 AM
Quote from: phishhead92 on May 31, 2011, 11:25:31 AM

along with some books RJ told me to read.

Sounds dangerous

(http://www.theepochtimes.com/news_images/2005-5-8-china-army-red-book-43.jpg)
Hmm... Now that you mention it one was named Das Kapital and the other was The Communist Manifesto...

Those are just novels right?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on May 31, 2011, 02:32:57 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on May 31, 2011, 11:25:31 AM
YAAAYYY!! MY DREAM CAME TRUE!!! 2 Movies for ultimate coverage.

You know that they've been planning to make it 2 films since the beginning of pre-production several years ago, right?

Did you know also that they are planning to fill the story out (supposedly) with the actions of the White Council and their dealings with the Necromancer (as this is the reason for Gandalf's absences during the dwarfs' journey)?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: ph92 on May 31, 2011, 05:04:56 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on May 31, 2011, 02:32:57 PM
Quote from: phishhead92 on May 31, 2011, 11:25:31 AM
YAAAYYY!! MY DREAM CAME TRUE!!! 2 Movies for ultimate coverage.

You know that they've been planning to make it 2 films since the beginning of pre-production several years ago, right?

Did you know also that they are planning to fill the story out (supposedly) with the actions of the White Council and their dealings with the Necromancer (as this is the reason for Gandalf's absences during the dwarfs' journey)?
Oh... right... I was just testing you guys ;-)

But that should make for some interesting scenes etc. Nice...
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on December 21, 2011, 03:26:59 PM
Trailer alert!

http://youtu.be/G0k3kHtyoqc

Also,

http://youtu.be/gHF536TJ0iE


(http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/thehobbit.jpeg)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on December 21, 2011, 04:12:46 PM
me = stoked
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on December 21, 2011, 04:40:11 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on December 21, 2011, 04:12:46 PM
me = stoked

Extremely so.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VA $l!m on December 21, 2011, 07:34:04 PM
just saw the full length trailer.  :crazy:  :-o :clap:
FUk to the YEAh!!
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VDB on December 22, 2011, 12:29:46 AM
So, I tend to think 3D is a gimmick and I mostly boycott it. But this actually has me a little intrigued for a change.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on December 22, 2011, 05:35:12 AM
I have finally been able to talk the wife into watching the Lord of the Rings movies (she decided it might not be that bad after I made her watch Game Of Thrones with me). Friday morning we'll start with the Fellowship, then Two Towers that night, followed by Return Of the King on Christmas eve. Nine hours of great movie watching! She's just lucky I don't own the 3 1/2 hour extended versions of the movies. :wink:
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on December 22, 2011, 08:26:55 AM
Quote from: mistercharlie on December 22, 2011, 05:35:12 AM
I have finally been able to talk the wife into watching the Lord of the Rings movies (she decided it might not be that bad after I made her watch Game Of Thrones with me). Friday morning we'll start with the Fellowship, then Two Towers that night, followed by Return Of the King on Christmas eve. Nine hours of great movie watching! She's just lucky I don't own the 3 1/2 hour extended versions of the movies. :wink:

Those extended blu-rays make for excellent xmas gifts...
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 22, 2011, 09:41:19 AM
So freakin' psyched!   :crazy:
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VA $l!m on December 22, 2011, 10:26:34 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on December 22, 2011, 12:29:46 AM
So, I tend to think 3D is a gimmick and I mostly boycott it. But this actually has me a little intrigued for a change.

meh, as long as the 2D isnt ruined i'm good.
unfortunately filming in 3D lends itself to a different approach for the director.
i heard the new star trek movie was only going to be filmed in 2d and i wondered if it was a artistic choice to achieve a more traditional visual sense.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: gah on December 22, 2011, 10:30:12 AM
Next December?! That's a long ass wait...

Still,
Quote from: mistercharlie on December 21, 2011, 04:12:46 PM
me = stoked

:crazy:
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on December 22, 2011, 11:44:59 AM
3d done right (first step being that it has to be filmed in 3d rather than created via processing in post) can be good.
I trust Peter Jackson with this material and his selection of technical people to do this as well as can be done. I also feel that the higher framerate will help with some of the nagging problems that come with the modern 3d process (specifically the eye-fatigue.)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: gah on December 22, 2011, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 22, 2011, 11:44:59 AM
3d done right (first step being that it has to be filmed in 3d rather than created via processing in post) can be good.
I trust Peter Jackson with this material and his selection of technical people to do this as well as can be done. I also feel that the higher framerate will help with some of the nagging problems that come with the modern 3d process (specifically the eye-fatigue.)

This will be the first movie I see in 3d! 8-) (<- already picked up a pair of glasses)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on July 30, 2012, 12:33:16 PM
QuotePeter Jackson just confirmed last week's rumor on Facebook that "The Hobbit" will now be three films. The filmmaker released the following statement:

It is only at the end of a shoot that you finally get the chance to sit down and have a look at the film you have made. Recently Fran, Phil and I did just this when we watched for the first time an early cut of the first movie - and a large chunk of the second. We were really pleased with the way the story was coming together, in particular, the strength of the characters and the cast who have brought them to life. All of which gave rise to a simple question: do we take this chance to tell more of the tale? And the answer from our perspective as the filmmakers, and as fans, was an unreserved 'yes.'

We know how much of the story of Bilbo Baggins, the Wizard Gandalf, the Dwarves of Erebor, the rise of the Necromancer, and the Battle of Dol Guldur will remain untold if we do not take this chance. The richness of the story of The Hobbit, as well as some of the related material in the appendices of The Lord of the Rings, allows us to tell the full story of the adventures of Bilbo Baggins and the part he played in the sometimes dangerous, but at all times exciting, history of Middle-earth.

So, without further ado and on behalf of New Line Cinema, Warner Bros. Pictures, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Wingnut Films, and the entire cast and crew of "The Hobbit" films, I'd like to announce that two films will become three.

It has been an unexpected journey indeed, and in the words of Professor Tolkien himself, "a tale that grew in the telling."

Cheers,

Peter J
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on July 30, 2012, 12:34:46 PM
Oh man...

If it takes them three years to release these, I'm probably going to have to cut a bitch.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on July 30, 2012, 02:20:02 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 30, 2012, 12:34:46 PM
Oh man...

If it takes them three years to release these, I'm probably going to have to cut a bitch.

I've got a feeling a bitch is probably gonna need cut. I remember the anticipation anxiety I had waiting between the first three films. But it was well worth the wait.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: gah on July 31, 2012, 10:59:37 AM
I trust he knows what he's doing, but I have a feeling pushing it to three movies is going to make it drag.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on July 31, 2012, 11:27:29 AM
Quote from: goodabouthood on July 31, 2012, 10:59:37 AM
I trust he knows what he's doing, but I have a feeling pushing it to three movies is going to make it drag.

They've sourced the appendices for extensive additional plot material. If you're thinking only of the films as being the There and Back Again story, you're going to be amazed at what they've added. The tale of the Necromancer in Dol Goldur is gonna blow some minds. I'm glad (after some reflection) that it's going to get significant airtime rather than being tacked on.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on July 31, 2012, 12:58:12 PM
It's been a few years since I dusted off my copy of the hobbit. Might have to revisit soon.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on July 31, 2012, 01:23:13 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 31, 2012, 12:58:12 PM
It's been a few years since I dusted off my copy of the hobbit. Might have to revisit soon.

May as well dip into the back of LOTR, too.
All those times when Gandalf leaves the travelers is going to be covered too.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Hicks on July 31, 2012, 02:28:00 PM
Sounds like a money grab to me, but I have hope that Jackson can prove me wrong.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VDB on July 31, 2012, 03:18:20 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 31, 2012, 01:23:13 PM
May as well dip into the back of LOTR, too.
All those times when Gandalf leaves the travelers is going to be covered too.

So those scenes will fast-forward in time or the continuity will be adjusted for these films?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on July 31, 2012, 03:36:53 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on July 31, 2012, 03:18:20 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 31, 2012, 01:23:13 PM
May as well dip into the back of LOTR, too.
All those times when Gandalf leaves the travelers is going to be covered too.

So those scenes will fast-forward in time or the continuity will be adjusted for these films?

They happen more or less concurrently.

The story was revealed in the appendices to LOTR as well as other writings, and only lightly touched upon in The Hobbit.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VDB on July 31, 2012, 03:57:58 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 31, 2012, 03:36:53 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on July 31, 2012, 03:18:20 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 31, 2012, 01:23:13 PM
May as well dip into the back of LOTR, too.
All those times when Gandalf leaves the travelers is going to be covered too.

So those scenes will fast-forward in time or the continuity will be adjusted for these films?

They happen more or less concurrently.

The story was revealed in the appendices to LOTR as well as other writings, and only lightly touched upon in The Hobbit.

Ah, you meant the travelers in The Hobbit, not those times when Gandalf peaced out on the LOTR travelers.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on July 31, 2012, 10:01:07 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on July 31, 2012, 03:57:58 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 31, 2012, 03:36:53 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on July 31, 2012, 03:18:20 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 31, 2012, 01:23:13 PM
May as well dip into the back of LOTR, too.
All those times when Gandalf leaves the travelers is going to be covered too.

So those scenes will fast-forward in time or the continuity will be adjusted for these films?

They happen more or less concurrently.

The story was revealed in the appendices to LOTR as well as other writings, and only lightly touched upon in The Hobbit.

Ah, you meant the travelers in The Hobbit, not those times when Gandalf peaced out on the LOTR travelers.

His absences were well accounted for in those films...
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VDB on August 01, 2012, 09:34:13 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 31, 2012, 10:01:07 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on July 31, 2012, 03:57:58 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 31, 2012, 03:36:53 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on July 31, 2012, 03:18:20 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 31, 2012, 01:23:13 PM
May as well dip into the back of LOTR, too.
All those times when Gandalf leaves the travelers is going to be covered too.

So those scenes will fast-forward in time or the continuity will be adjusted for these films?

They happen more or less concurrently.

The story was revealed in the appendices to LOTR as well as other writings, and only lightly touched upon in The Hobbit.

Ah, you meant the travelers in The Hobbit, not those times when Gandalf peaced out on the LOTR travelers.

His absences were well accounted for in those films...

Didn't know if there was more to the story; not a huge Tolkien scholar. I misread your sentences.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: barnesy305 on August 01, 2012, 11:12:11 AM
If he George Lucas' this trilogy, he's gonna get a lightsaber in the dark side.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on August 01, 2012, 11:22:03 AM
There is some precedent here.

The Lord Of The Rings was one book that Tolkien's publisher suggested be carved into three...
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on August 13, 2012, 07:42:23 AM
Not really "Hobbit" related, but it is in perpetration for the release of The Hobbit.

My wife, the librarian, has sadly never read nor watched any of the Lord of the Rings books/movies. She asked me last night what I wanted to do for my birthday on Wednesday, my reply was "I want to watch nine and a half hours worth of movies". She agreed to it! This will be the first time I watch all three movies in a single sitting. I am toying with digging out my old VCR from the garage and popping in my tape of The Hobbit cartoon as a cap to the night, but I probably won't end up doing that (the VCR might not even work anymore at this point).
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: gah on August 13, 2012, 11:21:05 AM
Quote from: mistercharlie on August 13, 2012, 07:42:23 AM
Not really "Hobbit" related, but it is in perpetration for the release of The Hobbit.

My wife, the librarian, has sadly never read nor watched any of the Lord of the Rings books/movies. She asked me last night what I wanted to do for my birthday on Wednesday, my reply was "I want to watch nine and a half hours worth of movies". She agreed to it! This will be the first time I watch all three movies in a single sitting. I am toying with digging out my old VCR from the garage and popping in my tape of The Hobbit cartoon as a cap to the night, but I probably won't end up doing that (the VCR might not even work anymore at this point).

HA! I had that cartoon vhs too!

Way to fool your wife into being so bored she'll WANT to have birthday sex with you just to end it already!  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Hicks on August 13, 2012, 01:27:43 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on August 13, 2012, 07:42:23 AM
Not really "Hobbit" related, but it is in perpetration for the release of The Hobbit.

My wife, the librarian, has sadly never read nor watched any of the Lord of the Rings books/movies. She asked me last night what I wanted to do for my birthday on Wednesday, my reply was "I want to watch nine and a half hours worth of movies". She agreed to it! This will be the first time I watch all three movies in a single sitting. I am toying with digging out my old VCR from the garage and popping in my tape of The Hobbit cartoon as a cap to the night, but I probably won't end up doing that (the VCR might not even work anymore at this point).

I watched all three movies (extended editions of course) in a single day once.















































I don't recommend it.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on August 13, 2012, 01:30:21 PM
Yeah, I love the LOTR series as much as anyone else, but man, ADD wins every time.  There's no way I could do that.  I've watched the first two back to back, but it just wasn't gonna happen. 
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on August 14, 2012, 04:37:23 AM
Taking the above comments into consideration we decided to watch Fellowship tonight and then watch Two Towers and Return of the King tomorrow.

/me goes to work and bides time until his trip to Middle-Earth.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on September 21, 2012, 12:58:51 PM
New trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JLzgucyB20
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on November 04, 2012, 06:19:02 PM
Somewhat related....a Middle Earth-themed flight safety video:
http://youtu.be/cBlRbrB_Gnc
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VA $l!m on December 14, 2012, 08:52:15 PM
im really hoping i can avoid spoilers and 'hated/loved' it posts til i getg a chance to see this. gonna be tough to avoid...

anyway, something i heard mentioned a month or so ago-- i heard they were splitting this thing up into 3 films or something?!??

maybe someone on tv mispoke, but i swear i heard an interview concerning the Hobbit/ peter jackson's new TRILOGY.

bueller?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on December 14, 2012, 09:00:25 PM
Quote from: VA $l!m on December 14, 2012, 08:52:15 PM
im really hoping i can avoid spoilers and 'hated/loved' it posts til i getg a chance to see this. gonna be tough to avoid...

anyway, something i heard mentioned a month or so ago-- i heard they were splitting this thing up into 3 films or something?!??

maybe someone on tv mispoke, but i swear i heard an interview concerning the Hobbit/ peter jackson's new TRILOGY.

bueller?

It is indeed a trilogy. He's fleshing out the story with stuff from the various appendixes of the different middle earth books.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: cactusfan on December 15, 2012, 03:50:43 PM
saw The Hobbit.

do yourself a favor and DO NOT see this thing projected at the high frame rate of 48fps. it looks shockingly awful. peter jackson has gone insane if he things this looks good.

as for the movie, it also sucks, but i know you'll see it anyway. i hope you like endless CGI battles straight out of video games, because that's about all you get for three hours.

and if you really want to know how i feel:
http://www.standbyformindcontrol.com/2012/12/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-disaster/
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VA $l!m on December 15, 2012, 06:52:07 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on December 14, 2012, 09:00:25 PM
Quote from: VA $l!m on December 14, 2012, 08:52:15 PM
im really hoping i can avoid spoilers and 'hated/loved' it posts til i getg a chance to see this. gonna be tough to avoid...

anyway, something i heard mentioned a month or so ago-- i heard they were splitting this thing up into 3 films or something?!??

maybe someone on tv mispoke, but i swear i heard an interview concerning the Hobbit/ peter jackson's new TRILOGY.

bueller?

It is indeed a trilogy. He's fleshing out the story with stuff from the various appendixes of the different middle earth books.

wow... uber marketing ploy. not impressed.
so we are going to get a bunch of random crap thrown in?
3 films for the friggin hobbit? ugh. so... in other words this story is going to drag like a mutha. not sure i'm goin to bother seein this in the theatre now.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: emay on December 15, 2012, 11:16:26 PM
Quote from: VA $l!m on December 15, 2012, 06:52:07 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on December 14, 2012, 09:00:25 PM
Quote from: VA $l!m on December 14, 2012, 08:52:15 PM
im really hoping i can avoid spoilers and 'hated/loved' it posts til i getg a chance to see this. gonna be tough to avoid...

anyway, something i heard mentioned a month or so ago-- i heard they were splitting this thing up into 3 films or something?!??

maybe someone on tv mispoke, but i swear i heard an interview concerning the Hobbit/ peter jackson's new TRILOGY.

bueller?

It is indeed a trilogy. He's fleshing out the story with stuff from the various appendixes of the different middle earth books.

wow... uber marketing ploy. not impressed.
so we are going to get a bunch of random crap thrown in?
3 films for the friggin hobbit? ugh. so... in other words this story is going to drag like a mutha. not sure i'm goin to bother seein this in the theatre now.

agreed. No need for 3 movies outta the Hobbit.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on December 16, 2012, 10:22:08 AM
I saw it. I liked it.

If you love Middle Earth as much as I do, you'll welcome the additional material. The story of the Necromancer furthers the prologue nature of The Hobbit. I think it's going to be pretty great.

Meanwhile, the Hobbit and Dwarfs still have a bit of a way to go in their journey.


HFR is a new thing and like any new thing, someone else will do it better. Perhaps even Jackson will improve on it presentation in the next film just as the Gollum cgi improved from the dirt film to the second...

The clarity of the image alternated from being odd to amazing. 3D was cool but, as usual, unnecessary. There were a couple sequences that were enhanced by it, though.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: barnesy305 on December 16, 2012, 10:56:35 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 16, 2012, 10:22:08 AM
I saw it. I liked it.

If you love Middle Earth as much as I do, you'll welcome the additional material. The story of the Necromancer furthers the prologue nature of The Hobbit. I think it's going to be pretty great.

Meanwhile, the Hobbit and Dwarfs still have a bit of a way to go in their journey.


HFR is a new thing and like any new thing, someone else will do it better. Perhaps even Jackson will improve on it presentation in the next film just as the Gollum cgi improved from the dirt film to the second...

The clarity of the image alternated from being odd to amazing. 3D was cool but, as usual, unnecessary. There were a couple sequences that were enhanced by it, though.

If you liked it, put a ring on it.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VDB on December 16, 2012, 01:13:49 PM
Good reviews, cactusfan. I should really read y'all's blog more often...

I'd be interested to see this or any movie in this new-fangled higher frame rate, if only for curiosity's sake, though I'm sure I wouldn't like it. The only thing I don't like about how film looks is during fast camera moves when the image kind of snags or tears (judder). Would be nice if someone could devise a filming/projection method to address that but otherwise leave film's cadence as-is.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: cactusfan on December 17, 2012, 08:01:36 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on December 16, 2012, 01:13:49 PM
Good reviews, cactusfan. I should really read y'all's blog more often...

I'd be interested to see this or any movie in this new-fangled higher frame rate, if only for curiosity's sake, though I'm sure I wouldn't like it. The only thing I don't like about how film looks is during fast camera moves when the image kind of snags or tears (judder). Would be nice if someone could devise a filming/projection method to address that but otherwise leave film's cadence as-is.

thanks for reading. come on by anytime.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 27, 2012, 11:18:49 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 16, 2012, 10:22:08 AM
I saw it. I liked it.

If you love Middle Earth as much as I do, you'll welcome the additional material. The story of the Necromancer furthers the prologue nature of The Hobbit. I think it's going to be pretty great.

Meanwhile, the Hobbit and Dwarfs still have a bit of a way to go in their journey.


HFR is a new thing and like any new thing, someone else will do it better. Perhaps even Jackson will improve on it presentation in the next film just as the Gollum cgi improved from the dirt film to the second...

The clarity of the image alternated from being odd to amazing. 3D was cool but, as usual, unnecessary. There were a couple sequences that were enhanced by it, though.

Just got back from watching this for the first time.  I couldn't agree more with Jonathan's sentiments re: the 3D.  It was cool, but certainly not necessary and at times, pretty rough.  But as for the movie itself, I loved it.  I haven't read the book in years and I think I'm gonna dust it off and revisit.  I will def. be going back to the theater to watch this again. I loved it.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 28, 2012, 12:44:43 AM
Also, I am really curious to see what Jackson does with the necromancer.  Tolkien himself said that he was no more than a plot device in 'The Hobbit' even though he plays a much larger role in LOTR.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on December 28, 2012, 09:35:13 AM
As with so many things Tolkien, that 'plot device' is better fleshed out than most popular film characters.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 28, 2012, 09:38:51 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 28, 2012, 09:35:13 AM
As with so many things Tolkien, that 'plot device' is better fleshed out than most popular film characters.

Agreed. And I hope Jackson does spend some time developing that character because he does play such a pivotal role in the other books.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on December 28, 2012, 10:17:18 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on December 28, 2012, 09:38:51 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 28, 2012, 09:35:13 AM
As with so many things Tolkien, that 'plot device' is better fleshed out than most popular film characters.

Agreed. And I hope Jackson does spend some time developing that character because he does play such a pivotal role in the other books.

I'm sure he has.
He's cast an amazing actor for the role as well...
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 28, 2012, 04:45:34 PM
Forgot to mention that my father gave me his copy of 'The Hobbit' from when he was a kid.  Printed in 1966 with original cover. Pumped.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on December 28, 2012, 05:57:04 PM
Awesome.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: gah on December 29, 2012, 10:05:36 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on December 28, 2012, 04:45:34 PM
Forgot to mention that my father gave me his copy of 'The Hobbit' from when he was a kid.  Printed in 1966 with original cover. Pumped.

Nice looking book. Apparently that cover was designed by Tolkien as well.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on January 08, 2013, 05:57:35 PM
Going to see this again tonight.  :-)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on January 09, 2013, 08:33:01 AM
Saw it in 2D and enjoyed it even more.  I caught a few things that I missed the first time around(most likely since that was my first 3D experience).

Anyway, it kills me that we have to wait another year+ for the next one to come out. 
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: gah on January 09, 2013, 09:58:23 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on January 08, 2013, 05:57:35 PM
Going to see this again tonight.  :-)

the wife geeked out with you twice?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on January 09, 2013, 05:44:37 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on January 09, 2013, 09:58:23 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on January 08, 2013, 05:57:35 PM
Going to see this again tonight.  :-)

the wife geeked out with you twice?

Lol, no.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on March 01, 2013, 10:05:38 AM
Quote
"The Hobbit: There and Back Again," the last of Peter Jackson's three films based on the J.R.R. Tolkien novel, has had its release date pushed back from July 18, 2014 to December 17, 2014.



The news was reported by Deadline, which added that the move prevents "There and Back Again" from going head-to-head with "X-Men: Days of Future Past" and so far leaves it without any competition in the new slot.



The switch feels more natural anyway: all three parts of "The Lord of the Rings" came out in December (in 2001, 2002 and 2003) and the first two parts of "The Hobbit" are also end-of-the-year releases. "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" arrived on December 14 last year, while "The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug" will open on December 13, 2013.



As you may recall, there wasn't even supposed to be a third movie: Jackson announced only last summer that "The Hobbit" was being expanded into a trilogy, leaving everyone wondering what the hell he was going to fill all that screen time with.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on March 01, 2013, 10:18:58 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 01, 2013, 10:05:38 AM
Quote
"The Hobbit: There and Back Again," the last of Peter Jackson's three films based on the J.R.R. Tolkien novel, has had its release date pushed back from July 18, 2014 to December 17, 2014.



The news was reported by Deadline, which added that the move prevents "There and Back Again" from going head-to-head with "X-Men: Days of Future Past" and so far leaves it without any competition in the new slot.



The switch feels more natural anyway: all three parts of "The Lord of the Rings" came out in December (in 2001, 2002 and 2003) and the first two parts of "The Hobbit" are also end-of-the-year releases. "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" arrived on December 14 last year, while "The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug" will open on December 13, 2013.



As you may recall, there wasn't even supposed to be a third movie: Jackson announced only last summer that "The Hobbit" was being expanded into a trilogy, leaving everyone wondering what the hell he was going to fill all that screen time with.
Should've only been two movies.

Not that that'll stop me from going to see all three.  But I will complain about it on the internet.

That'll learn 'em.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvxhzrMX421r4d22do1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on March 01, 2013, 10:34:26 AM
I will approve of this only if you're shaking your fist in the air like a crazy old man.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on March 01, 2013, 10:44:30 AM
Fixed my post
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on March 19, 2013, 06:29:42 PM
Picked up the hobbit on blu-ray today at best buy and noticed they have the extended versions of all of the LOTR series for $50(50% off). Considering I don't have any of the extended versions at all, I thought $50 for all three on Bluray was a pretty solid deal!

/nerd
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on March 19, 2013, 06:55:24 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 19, 2013, 06:29:42 PM
Picked up the hobbit on blu-ray today at best buy and noticed they have the extended versions of all of the LOTR series for $50(50% off). Considering I don't have any of the extended versions at all, I thought $50 for all three on Bluray was a pretty solid deal!

/nerd
I have the extended versions of all 3 LotR's on DVD.  I think I'd actually like to get the regular versions on Blu-Ray.  It takes me like three days to watch a single movie when I throw in the DVDs.  For $50, though....how can you say no?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on March 19, 2013, 07:07:08 PM
Exactly. I was just trying to let others know that they were on sale. Go get'em!
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on March 26, 2013, 04:44:40 PM
http://youtu.be/8LDhsH79jAY
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on March 26, 2013, 04:50:13 PM
Quote from: khalpin on March 26, 2013, 04:44:40 PM
http://youtu.be/8LDhsH79jAY

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard

LOL, I actually noticed a few of those while I was watching the other night(mainly the sword not glowing and the video game thing).
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VA $l!m on March 29, 2013, 01:17:09 PM
finally saw this last night...
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: emay on March 29, 2013, 01:18:40 PM
Quote from: VA $l!m on March 29, 2013, 01:17:09 PM
finally saw this last night...

........and......
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on March 29, 2013, 01:20:51 PM
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on March 29, 2013, 01:18:40 PM
Quote from: VA $l!m on March 29, 2013, 01:17:09 PM
finally saw this last night...

........and......
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on June 12, 2013, 07:37:09 AM
http://youtu.be/fnaojlfdUbs
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on June 12, 2013, 08:09:06 AM
CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on June 12, 2013, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on June 12, 2013, 08:09:06 AM
CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Igbo on June 12, 2013, 11:30:13 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 12, 2013, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on June 12, 2013, 08:09:06 AM
CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: tet on October 27, 2013, 12:53:53 AM
just watched this finally...   :clap:

now watching the trailer for #2:  :crazy:  :wtu:
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: justjezmund on October 27, 2013, 08:47:24 AM
Quote from: tet on October 27, 2013, 12:53:53 AM
just watched this finally...   :clap:

now watching the trailer for #2:  :crazy:  :wtu:

everything tet said.  I don't know how I kept missing this since june. :-P
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Caravan2001 on October 27, 2013, 01:10:29 PM
I gotta check this out...been slacking.  Was turned off by some initial reviews  but I'm def gonna fire it up when I get back from AC.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on October 27, 2013, 01:17:02 PM
Just saw that this is available on HBO-GO so I might rewatch it after I take the wife to the airport tonight.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on November 17, 2013, 12:20:39 AM
Only a few weeks away kids!!!!!!!!!!

:clap:
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: zimbra on November 21, 2013, 08:27:26 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on November 17, 2013, 12:20:39 AM
Only a few weeks away kids!!!!!!!!!!

:clap:

I got to see the preview on the big screen recently.  I'm ready!
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on November 22, 2013, 04:37:43 AM
GoogleMaps will now let you explore Middle Earth!

http://middle-earth.thehobbit.com/
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 10, 2013, 12:13:17 PM
 :crazy:
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VDB on December 10, 2013, 01:05:25 PM
It can only get better, right?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 10, 2013, 01:43:56 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on December 10, 2013, 01:05:25 PM
It can only get better, right?

You didn't like the first one?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VDB on December 10, 2013, 02:18:03 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on December 10, 2013, 01:43:56 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on December 10, 2013, 01:05:25 PM
It can only get better, right?

You didn't like the first one?

Parts of it, sure. On the whole and especially following up the triumph that was LOTR, I thought it was a bit of a dud...
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 10, 2013, 03:01:58 PM
Different strokes, I guess.  I thought it was a great way to set up the story for this trilogy of movies.  IMO, it's only going to get better. 
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 10, 2013, 03:14:02 PM
Interesting theories/story lines on what Jackson could use to fill up 3 movies

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/07/five-possible-reasons-that-the-hobbit-is-spilling-over-into-a-third-movie

Further insight into the necromancer

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/09/10/78684-analysing-the-role-of-the-necromancer-in-the-hobbit/
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on December 10, 2013, 03:26:14 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on December 10, 2013, 02:18:03 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on December 10, 2013, 01:43:56 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on December 10, 2013, 01:05:25 PM
It can only get better, right?

You didn't like the first one?

Parts of it, sure. On the whole and especially following up the triumph that was LOTR, I thought it was a bit of a dud...
If LotR was Woodstock, The Hobbit was Woodstock 99.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 10, 2013, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: khalpin on December 10, 2013, 03:26:14 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on December 10, 2013, 02:18:03 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on December 10, 2013, 01:43:56 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on December 10, 2013, 01:05:25 PM
It can only get better, right?

You didn't like the first one?

Parts of it, sure. On the whole and especially following up the triumph that was LOTR, I thought it was a bit of a dud...
If LotR was Woodstock, The Hobbit was Woodstock 99.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard

:shakehead:
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 16, 2013, 04:52:40 PM
I caught this last night. I don't think the purists are going to be too happy, but as an entertaining Hollywood blockbuster, I loved it. I'll leave it at that and comment further when others have seen the film.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on December 16, 2013, 05:05:15 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on December 16, 2013, 04:52:40 PM
I caught this last night. I don't think the purists are going to be too happy,.

WRONG!


I loved it.
Better than the last one (which I loved) and I'll be going back during my Xmas vacation.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 16, 2013, 05:16:52 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 16, 2013, 05:05:15 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on December 16, 2013, 04:52:40 PM
I caught this last night. I don't think the purists are going to be too happy,.

WRONG!


I loved it.
Better than the last one (which I loved) and I'll be going back during my Xmas vacation.

Heh, I had you in mind when I typed that.

I loved it too, and yes, it was better than the first as I expected. But some are killing it for straying from the book a little too much.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on December 16, 2013, 06:22:10 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on December 16, 2013, 05:16:52 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 16, 2013, 05:05:15 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on December 16, 2013, 04:52:40 PM
I caught this last night. I don't think the purists are going to be too happy,.

WRONG!


I loved it.
Better than the last one (which I loved) and I'll be going back during my Xmas vacation.

Heh, I had you in mind when I typed that.

I loved it too, and yes, it was better than the first as I expected. But some are killing it for straying from the book a little too much.
Saw it over the weekend (kids birthday party).  I enjoyed it but given the choice, I would've seen the 2D version.  Is it me, or did the movie "look" really weird?  Almost like the difference between soap operas and regular television.  I did enjoy it and thought it was better than the first one.  However, I've somewhat accepted that it's not going to be true to the book and that since they're whoring this whole thing out into three pictures, there's no way to make it without having to add a bunch of stuff.  I'm still bitter that they made it into a trilogy, though.  When you look at the LotR movies, they paid SO much attention to detail.  Stuff that you would never even notice without seeing the behind-the-scenes footage.  All of the woodwork on the set at Rohan, the handmade suits of chain mail, it goes on and on.  All of it was to make Middle Earth be as authentic as possible.  They could've saved millions but had very high ideals and wanted to stay true to the book.  Sure, there was a good amount of CGI, but mostly because there were no alternatives.  It just seems like these Hobbit movies are such a money grab...a lot of CGI and a hell of a lot of filler.  I don't know...maybe I'm just being a crotchety old man and should just accept it.

/rant

Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 16, 2013, 07:10:54 PM
******POSSIBLE SPOILER******












My biggest gripe is that there wasn't nearly enough Beorn and way too much made up love triangle.

[nitpick]Also, how does Smaug know to call Thorin "oakenshield"? Technically, he didn't get that nickname until much later. [/nitpick]

On the plus side, legolas kicks so much ass!
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Hicks on December 17, 2013, 01:16:40 AM
Quote from: khalpin on December 16, 2013, 06:22:10 PM
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Saw it over the weekend (kids birthday party).  I enjoyed it but given the choice, I would've seen the 2D version.  Is it me, or did the movie "look" really weird?  Almost like the difference between soap operas and regular television. 

Did you see the 48 high frame rate version?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on December 17, 2013, 07:43:36 AM
Quote from: Hicks on December 17, 2013, 01:16:40 AM
Quote from: khalpin on December 16, 2013, 06:22:10 PM
[
Saw it over the weekend (kids birthday party).  I enjoyed it but given the choice, I would've seen the 2D version.  Is it me, or did the movie "look" really weird?  Almost like the difference between soap operas and regular television. 

Did you see the 48 high frame rate version?
Yeah, that probably was it.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on December 17, 2013, 09:04:49 AM
I'm going to come out once again and defend the three-picture project against khalpin's cynicism.

When Tolkien wrote The Hobbit, it was a children's tale set in a world he'd created with dragons and elves and whatnot but it wasn't fully connected to the rest of the world. When he was subsequently asked for more from Middle Earth, he offered an early version of The Silmarillion which was rejected. He then shaped the tale of Lord Of The Rings and linked it back to the previous book. This also prompted some revisions. Originally, Gollum offers up the ring as his stakes in the riddle game and they part peacefully. Tolkien, having decided that the ring was no ordinary trinket revised this for later editions.

But Tolkien wasn't done revisiting The Hobbit.

He penned a different perspective of the story entitled Quest of Erebor which allowed him to provide some background as to why Gandalf was interested in the defeat of Smaug. It even includes Gandalf's meeting with Thorin in Bree. This to be included in the Appendices of LOTR but was not fully published (some of the data was given in the accounting of Durin's Folk) until Unfinished Tales.

So it is with Dol Guldur that the greatest Peter Jackson revisions come into play. Gandalf, in the films tells of receiving the map and the key to Erebor from Thrain II (Thorin Oakenshield's father) in a chance meeting. In the texts, this meeting occurred in the dungeons of Dol Guldur. Thrain had been taken because he possessed the last of the Dwarven rings of power and held there to rot. In this era, prior to the journey to Erebor, Gandalf made two forays to Dol Guldur the second resulting in the discovery of Thrain. Gandalf's departures from the Dwarven company is explained in the books to be to meet with the White Council, to urge them to move on the evil of Dol Guldur. They do attack but Sauron has already fled only to resurface a few years later in Mordor.

Now, with a little time-shifting (who knows when we'll see the assault on Dol Guldur) and revision to expedite film-based story-telling (Easy on the flash-backs. If we'd seen one with Gandalf in the pits of Dol Guldur, there where would be the suspense of Gandalf discovering what's up with Dol Guldur?), Jackson is doing what Tolkien had briefly sought to to do- a complete revision of The Hobbit to reflect the seriousness of the time and the events that transpired. Tolkien was talked out of this act because it betrayed the more innocent charm of the original book but Jackson is not fettered by this. He has the breadth of Tolkien's intent to draw upon and a story that is deeply connected to the previous films. I feel that if Jackson didn't take heed of this opportunity to tell the whole story he'd be missing out and so would we. Is it different from that book? Yes. Is it the story that I already know and love? Pretty much.


Additional notes for Neely:

I completely agree about Beorn. I would have loved the charming introductions and to see Beorn take on some of the wargs. Oh, well. At least he didn't get completely Bombadil'd.

As for Smaug knowing Thorin's name, there is precedent,  in Tolkien's world, for dragons having knowledge beyond what one expects. in the Silmarillion, in the tale of Turin, Glaurung when roosting in Nargothrond knows Turin and his deeds and even his sister.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 17, 2013, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 17, 2013, 09:04:49 AM
I'm going to come out once again and defend the three-picture project against khalpin's cynicism.

When Tolkien wrote The Hobbit, it was a children's tale set in a world he'd created with dragons and elves and whatnot but it wasn't fully connected to the rest of the world. When he was subsequently asked for more from Middle Earth, he offered an early version of The Silmarillion which was rejected. He then shaped the tale of Lord Of The Rings and linked it back to the previous book. This also prompted some revisions. Originally, Gollum offers up the ring as his stakes in the riddle game and they part peacefully. Tolkien, having decided that the ring was no ordinary trinket revised this for later editions.

But Tolkien wasn't done revisiting The Hobbit.

He penned a different perspective of the story entitled Quest of Erebor which allowed him to provide some background as to why Gandalf was interested in the defeat of Smaug. It even includes Gandalf's meeting with Thorin in Bree. This to be included in the Appendices of LOTR but was not fully published (some of the data was given in the accounting of Durin's Folk) until Unfinished Tales.

So it is with Dol Guldur that the greatest Peter Jackson revisions come into play. Gandalf, in the films tells of receiving the map and the key to Erebor from Thrain II (Thorin Oakenshield's father) in a chance meeting. In the texts, this meeting occurred in the dungeons of Dol Guldur. Thrain had been taken because he possessed the last of the Dwarven rings of power and held there to rot. In this era, prior to the journey to Erebor, Gandalf made two forays to Dol Guldur the second resulting in the discovery of Thrain. Gandalf's departures from the Dwarven company is explained in the books to be to meet with the White Council, to urge them to move on the evil of Dol Guldur. They do attack but Sauron has already fled only to resurface a few years later in Mordor.

Now, with a little time-shifting (who knows when we'll see the assault on Dol Guldur) and revision to expedite film-based story-telling (Easy on the flash-backs. If we'd seen one with Gandalf in the pits of Dol Guldur, there where would be the suspense of Gandalf discovering what's up with Dol Guldur?), Jackson is doing what Tolkien had briefly sought to to do- a complete revision of The Hobbit to reflect the seriousness of the time and the events that transpired. Tolkien was talked out of this act because it betrayed the more innocent charm of the original book but Jackson is not fettered by this. He has the breadth of Tolkien's intent to draw upon and a story that is deeply connected to the previous films. I feel that if Jackson didn't take heed of this opportunity to tell the whole story he'd be missing out and so would we. Is it different from that book? Yes. Is it the story that I already know and love? Pretty much.


Additional notes for Neely:

I completely agree about Beorn. I would have loved the charming introductions and to see Beorn take on some of the wargs. Oh, well. At least he didn't get completely Bombadil'd.

As for Smaug knowing Thorin's name, there is precedent,  in Tolkien's world, for dragons having knowledge beyond what one expects. in the Silmarillion, in the tale of Turin, Glaurung when roosting in Nargothrond knows Turin and his deeds and even his sister.

Great insight!  And thanks for that last part.  I've owned a copy of Silmarillion for a few years now, but have never gotten around to reading it.  I need to get on that.     
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 17, 2013, 11:40:49 AM
Is it bad that I'm already looking forward to the extended versions? 
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: sunrisevt on December 17, 2013, 12:01:41 PM
I started watching the first film in the ongoing Hobbit trilogy on HBO a couple of months ago. The character of Radigast the Brown was grievously mistreated by the rewrites. Ruined the movie for me; I didn't finish it. I'm still hopeful the others redeem the series (I don't want Jackson to go the way of Lucas...), but I'm pretty sure American Hustle is the only film I'll see in a theater this winter.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on December 17, 2013, 02:35:41 PM
Radagast is a bit silly in the films but, if you take all of the text of from the screenplays involving him it would easily eclipse that which Tolkien wrote.

Radagast was concerned with the plants and animals of Middle Earth. They were his specific charge. Saruman disliked him because he didn't understand him at all. Gandalf seems to have been cool with him, though.

I think that, if you look past the rather absurd appearance of the Brown Wizard, he's shown to be pretty cool. Perhaps a little batty but it makes sense if you understand that Radagast isn't in Middle Earth to deal with Elves or Men. Talking to birds (and other animals) which the texts do suggest he can do probably has him well tuned out of the ways of other folks.

The rabbit sledge is a bit much but, what the hell, Tolkien never said he didn't have one.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: sunrisevt on December 17, 2013, 02:43:51 PM
Oh yeah, I wasn't clear there. I should have said "film" instead of "rewrites" -- I mean that the presentation of Radigast's character was some lazy comic relief. (A broken-down stoner living with hundreds of woodland critters was the best Jackson, et al, could do for one of Gandalf's peers?) It's like Jackson kind of shares Saruman's perspective, if you will--he just doesn't get the character. (In interviews, Jackson implied he felt the same about Bombadil from "Fellowship," and said so explicitly about the Scourging of the Shire chapter that was just left out of "ROTK.")
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on December 17, 2013, 03:22:14 PM
I knew what you meant. You'll see in the second film, that Jackson doesn't actually think so little of Radagast.


As for Bombadil, I think leaving him out makes total sense when you remember that these films are not just for the folks who read the books.
If you were completely unfamiliar with LOTR and, after learning what a great menace to the world this little ring happens to be, you'd be confused if this jaunty fellow took a hold of it and was completely unfased by its power. I think that's an element that confuses many first-time readers and the medium of the novel is far better suited to explaining what Bombadil is in the world.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: barnesy305 on December 17, 2013, 06:54:35 PM
I understand the whole being in charge of the animals and plants bit, but being covered in bird shit was for the twelve year olds. Take a fucking bath. Also, it seemed to me that half the dialogue was just slight rewrites of lines from the first trilogy. And I usually love this type of shit.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on December 18, 2013, 10:13:31 AM
Point taken.  I have to admit, having only read The Hobbit and the LotR trilogy, I didn't know any of that history about the revisions to the story and material drawn from other sources, although I'd heard rumblings about the Necromancer before. 

Also, one other thing that I found out while poking around that I was completely mistaken about was that it was Peter Jackson and crew that decided to stretch it out into three films, saying the need to seize the one opportunity to tell the whole tale.  I had been thinking all along that it was MGM/Newline, etc. requesting a third film to cash in on the obvious goldmine and that PJ and crew had to drum up a bunch of sidestories, like the pale orc and add a bunch of random action sequences to stretch it out.

Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Hicks on December 18, 2013, 09:38:15 PM
Regardless of the official story, so to speak, I have no doubt that the suits didn't need any convincing to stretch it out.   
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on December 18, 2013, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: Hicks on December 18, 2013, 09:38:15 PM
Regardless of the official story, so to speak, I have no doubt that the suits didn't need any convincing to stretch it out.

I'm sure that meeting went very well.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Caravan2001 on December 20, 2013, 11:12:26 PM
Pen is charged, ganja fudge on deck (with nuts)....watching the first one for the first time tonight.  Gotta turn up my sub....
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Hicks on December 20, 2013, 11:45:03 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on December 20, 2013, 11:12:26 PM
Pen is charged, ganja fudge on deck (with nuts)....watching the first one for the first time tonight.  Gotta turn up my sub....

Lemme know if you want to hit up the new one. . .
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Caravan2001 on December 21, 2013, 12:00:04 AM
Quote from: Hicks on December 20, 2013, 11:45:03 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on December 20, 2013, 11:12:26 PM
Pen is charged, ganja fudge on deck (with nuts)....watching the first one for the first time tonight.  Gotta turn up my sub....

Lemme know if you want to hit up the new one. . .

for sure....
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on December 21, 2013, 06:38:34 AM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on December 20, 2013, 11:12:26 PM
Pen is charged, ganja fudge on deck (with nuts)....watching the first one for the first time tonight.  Gotta turn up my sub....

Ha! My plan for today after going to my grandpas Xmas breakfast, is to lay on the couch with my new pen and watch the first one.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 21, 2013, 12:54:36 PM
I look forward to seeing what you all thought about the first movie....
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Caravan2001 on December 21, 2013, 01:43:42 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on December 21, 2013, 12:54:36 PM
I look forward to seeing what you all thought about the first movie....
I really liked it.  I thought it was a bit campier than the LOTR trilogy, but it was shot really well and while I thought it could have been shortened some, it was an enjoyable movie.  I'm not going to attempt to compare it to the book.  In a nutshell, I found it to be somewhat of LOTR "lite" but that's not bad, I enjoyed it and will watch it again.  Also primed to see new one in the theatre now.  Let's hook it up Ikki when I get back from NYC if you can wait that long....
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Hicks on December 21, 2013, 03:34:06 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on December 21, 2013, 01:43:42 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on December 21, 2013, 12:54:36 PM
I look forward to seeing what you all thought about the first movie....
I really liked it.  I thought it was a bit campier than the LOTR trilogy, but it was shot really well and while I thought it could have been shortened some, it was an enjoyable movie.  I'm not going to attempt to compare it to the book.  In a nutshell, I found it to be somewhat of LOTR "lite" but that's not bad, I enjoyed it and will watch it again.  Also primed to see new one in the theatre now.  Let's hook it up Ikki when I get back from NYC if you can wait that long....

Yeah I can wait, I'd like to see it at Cinetopia since they have the best theaters, but we can work that out.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: emay on December 22, 2013, 04:59:14 PM
I thought the first one was a little dragged out.
Still havent seen the 2nd one yet. wanna catch the first again before I go see the second. is it on netflix?
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 22, 2013, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on December 22, 2013, 04:59:14 PM
I thought the first one was a little dragged out.
Still havent seen the 2nd one yet. wanna catch the first again before I go see the second. is it on netflix?

I don't think it's on Netflix.

I'm gonna go see this for a second time tomorrow.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Caravan2001 on December 22, 2013, 06:46:31 PM
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on December 22, 2013, 04:59:14 PM
I thought the first one was a little dragged out.
Still havent seen the 2nd one yet. wanna catch the first again before I go see the second. is it on netflix?

It's on HBO though, so maybe it is on HBO On Demand....I dropped $14 and bought it on itunes so I would own it.  Watched most of it again with my wife last night as she is a huge fan of the book and was jonesed I watched it without her on Friday.  I think I liked it better the second time.  There are parts they really could have shortened, but as my wife reasoned, not only does Peter Jackson want to make more movies (money), he is also probably such a huge fan of all of it that he is just unable to cut anything out.  I would imagine most die-hard fans feel the same way.  Looking forward to seeing the new one.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on December 22, 2013, 07:26:03 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on December 22, 2013, 05:12:03 PM
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on December 22, 2013, 04:59:14 PM
I thought the first one was a little dragged out.
Still havent seen the 2nd one yet. wanna catch the first again before I go see the second. is it on netflix?

I don't think it's on Netflix.

I'm gonna go see this for a second time tomorrow.

As Todd, said it's on HBO, that's where I watched it. I liked it, but agree that it dragged a little. I don't think it's been mentioned yet but I really like the way they did the dwarves songs. I was singing That's What Bilbo Baggins Hates all day at work today.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 24, 2013, 12:22:21 PM
Thinking I need to see this in 3D as well.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VDB on January 04, 2014, 12:39:07 AM
Saw the second one tonight. Jackson takes one step closer to becoming our next George Lucas.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Hicks on January 04, 2014, 12:55:02 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on January 04, 2014, 12:39:07 AM
Saw the second one tonight. Jackson takes one step closer to becoming our next George Lucas.

Not sure if compliment or not. 
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: whatapiper on January 04, 2014, 02:11:11 AM
Watched over the holiday with my eight year old after reading book together for the 2nd time, good stuff.  I really appreciated the back story not evident from the original hobbit.  I'm sure I'd nitpick this one to death if i were alone but with my son it was fantastic.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VDB on January 04, 2014, 01:30:38 PM
Hicks: It was not.

Let me preface by saying that, other than listening to the audiobook a few years ago, I didn't approach the Hobbit movies with heavy experience with the written version. I'm sure that influences the perspective of many who have, which is fine. I just came at them as a movie fan and big fan of the LOTR trilogy, which I regard as an unqualified masterpiece.

Even on their own, but especially in comparison with LOTR, I found the Hobbit movies to fall way flat. I don't even need to dwell on the inherent silliness of the story and its characters, as I know that's influenced by the source material, and Jackson has even tried to give these films more weight by playing up the ring, the coming of Sauron and the nobility of Oakenshield's quest to reclaim the heritage gem as part of taking back his people's homeland. It's the execution that does little for me.

Like khalpin pointed out, LOTR was so rich with detail -- hand-made detail -- and The Hobbit just looks like a big vomit of CGI. The use of CGI can really enhance films, obviously, and create things you never could in reality, but the eye can still generally tell what's real and what's not. So when everything looks not real, you have a problem. In LOTR, everything from the sets to the locations to the costumes to the miniatures had an indisputable air of tangibility that created an immersive, believable world. CGI was used to augment and extend this world, not create it from scratch. The uruk-hai and ring wraiths were scary in LOTR because they were really there -- men in costumes cutting an actual, imposing physical presence. The white orcs in Hobbit aren't scary; they just look fake. Good for CGI, sure, but still fake. Those times in LOTR when you were looking at pure CGI, it was easy to tell and more jarring. But that's the entirety of the Hobbit films, it seems.

In concept, the inclusion of characters and actors from the previous trilogy helps with continuity, but again I have to quibble. It's been, what, a dozen years? The years are evident on all of them. Elijah Wood was thin and no longer boyish; Orlando Bloom was notably puffier; Cate Blanchett and Hugo Weaving showed age that elves should be immune from; Ian Holm had to be so heavily made up I wasn't sure if that was him or someone else made up to look like him; and Christopher Lee and Ian McKellen are obviously getting no younger.

(Side note: this is why I hope to god none of the old actors show up in the new Star Wars films unless they are set a minimum of 30 years after Jedi.)

Aside from Bilbo and Gandalf, I really didn't care about any of the characters. The dwarves are mostly goofy and hard to distinguish except "oh, that's the one with the bowl cut." Oakenshield is a dickbag. Legolas had one single expression the entire movie. That love triangle? Um, OK. Even Gandalf comes and goes at random and when he's around seems to spout off half-conceived wizardisms that have about 1/4 the gravitas of his dialog from LOTR. I love Martin Freeman's subtlety and humanity (hobbitity?) as Bilbo, but we get too little of him. At times during the film last night, I found myself just plain disinterested.

Even the music bothered me: the same five passages, it would seem, played intermittently and arbitrarily.

So there you go. This rant might have me appear more angered by the experience than I really was. I'm fine, actually. There were parts I liked: the POV ride down the river combined great effects with compelling camera work, and I thought that Smaug, for being a giant, talking, CGI dragon, was as well executed as one could hope for. I went in with low expectations after the first one, and they were not exceeded. It'll be the same for the third one, and then I'll move on with my life go back to rewatching LOTR.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on April 04, 2014, 08:42:18 AM
Heading over today to pick up the Blu ray! 
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 12, 2014, 11:29:55 AM
http://www.ew.com/ew/static/longform/hobbit/desktop/

Holy LULZ

Stephen Colbert, FTW!
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: VA $l!m on December 12, 2014, 02:47:20 PM
the Smaug interview on Colbert was epcot
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on December 12, 2014, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: VA $l!m on December 12, 2014, 02:47:20 PM
the Smaug interview on Colbert was epcot

Yeah, hilarious. I couldn't find a YouTube though
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: khalpin on December 24, 2014, 04:06:56 PM
Just saw this with my 9-year old son.  He enjoyed it more than I did, but what I'm most excited about is I can now introduce him to the LotR movies.  Gonna be an awesome Christmas vacation.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on January 03, 2015, 01:33:26 PM
I enjoyed the third installment.
Taking it as it is- Peter Jackson's The Hobbit- allows me to relax and enjoy the additions and revisions comfortably. I'd say he's done remarkable work developing a six-film saga that glorifies the original works without attempting to supplant them.

Now it's time to go back and re-read yet again.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on January 21, 2015, 09:33:02 AM
https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com
Three movies cut back into a single 4.5hr movie...
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on January 21, 2015, 10:01:23 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 21, 2015, 09:33:02 AM
https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com
Three movies cut back into a single 4.5hr movie...

Cool, thanks. I'll be watching this tonight after the wife leaves for work. Hell, if it's good enough of an edit, I may even be able to talk her into watching it. After sitting through all three of the LotR movies over the course of two days a few years ago she has said that she doesn't want to watch The Hobbit trilogy.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: Caravan2001 on January 21, 2015, 11:53:39 PM
So, I never get to go to the movies.  I think the last movie I saw in the theatre was actually the last Hobbit, with Hicks.  Was on a business trip last week and went to see this on IMAX at a killer theatre with great sound.  Only 4 other people there.  I was blown away.  Super sick.  I loved it.  Best of the 3 Hobbits IMO, and I love the way the tie it into LOTR at the end. Taken at face value (Action/Fantasy flick), I loved it.  Might not have had as much impact on a TV, but in IMAX, it was tight!
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: antelope19 on November 13, 2017, 03:16:32 PM
Wasn't really sure where else to put this. It probably needs a new thread....but apparently Amazon has purchased the TV rights to LOTR and will be making a multi-season prequel.

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/11/13/16644782/the-lord-of-the-rings-amazon-television-show

Not really sure how to feel about this right now.
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: rowjimmy on November 13, 2017, 03:20:18 PM
I'm cautiously optimistic.
There are a lot of great stories worth mining. Also they know they have a built-in audience that is theirs to lose...
Title: Re: 'The Hobbit'
Post by: mistercharlie on November 13, 2017, 08:20:11 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 13, 2017, 03:20:18 PM
I'm cautiously optimistic.
There are a lot of great stories worth mining. Also they know they have a built-in audience that is theirs to lose...

There's so much more to the story in Tolkien's original stories, plus The Simillarion. I am looking forward to the Amazon show.