It's official! Summer Tour 2012

[mbw]

Ftr, when I started seeing shows there were still kids showing up who were "ravers" with pacifiers and shit. They were there to take A and E and dance. I guarantee they weren't itching to hear tapes of the show again later. It was all about the scene for them in the early 90's. They eventually went away, but the point is that there have always been scenesters and music geeks and stat geeks and wastoids and frat boys and noobs and jaded vets and PTers and douchebags and kind hippies and townies and jocks and socs and paugers and girls who talk too much and kids who can't handle their liquor and pass out or puke... You get the point. 

"It's all the same, only the names will change
Everyday it seems we're wasting away
Another place where the faces are so cold
I'd drive all night just to get back home

Sometimes I sleep, sometimes it's not for days
And the people I meet always go their separate ways
Sometimes you tell the day
By the bottle that you drink
And times when you're alone all you do is think"

i think that's the first time anyone has quoted bon jovi on this board.
well done, pie-guy.

[PIE-GUY]

Ftr, when I started seeing shows there were still kids showing up who were "ravers" with pacifiers and shit. They were there to take A and E and dance. I guarantee they weren't itching to hear tapes of the show again later. It was all about the scene for them in the early 90's. They eventually went away, but the point is that there have always been scenesters and music geeks and stat geeks and wastoids and frat boys and noobs and jaded vets and PTers and douchebags and kind hippies and townies and jocks and socs and paugers and girls who talk too much and kids who can't handle their liquor and pass out or puke... You get the point. 

"It's all the same, only the names will change
Everyday it seems we're wasting away
Another place where the faces are so cold
I'd drive all night just to get back home

Sometimes I sleep, sometimes it's not for days
And the people I meet always go their separate ways
Sometimes you tell the day
By the bottle that you drink
And times when you're alone all you do is think"

i think that's the first time anyone has quoted bon jovi on this board.
well done, pie-guy.

I'm not even sure it's the first time I've quoted Bon Jovi, but I'll take the compliment.

[WhatstheUse?]

  to PG.

[rowjimmy]

gawd, I love that song.

[emay]

PG droppin knowledge! 
Dig that bon jovi song too.

[susep]

gawd, I love that song.

esp on vinyl :wink:

[Buffalo Budd]

to PG.

That quote makes me miss Guy.

[gah]

to PG.

That quote makes me miss Guy.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard

Yes, wish brother would make an appearance more often, but I suppose life gets busy.

[VA $l!m]

This whole argument of kids being at Phish shows solely for fun and drugs nowadays is so old.  I've talked to plenty of heads who were there in the mid-nineties and were dosing like it was their job.  I find it so exhausting hearing the same old shit of older fans vs. new fans.

funny thing is that it is exactly what i went through seeing the dead in the 90s.
at the time i couldnt care less though, and the majority of older heads didnt think comparing in a negative light different eras was even really necessary. unfortunately we do live in a different time now... an over-analyzed time.

really when it comes down to it the reasons a person goes to a show are their own and have nothing to do with the 'state' of the band.
to belabor the point- i probably went to more 90s dead shows for the 'music', whereas i went to early 90s phish shows more for the party, lol... so, basically polar opposites from how people would generalize both bands.


and thinking about PGs comments about the variety of people at shows. i think thats the beautiful thing of it all. really, personally i always tried to avoid judging anyones motivations for being at a show. its really about being in the moment, and what people experience when in the show or the lot, not what their motivations were before they ended up there.

[Buffalo Budd]

Well put slim, I guess I've felt very much the same about other people and their personal experience with the band.  That is theirs and it really won't affect my outlook on any particular show.