I know August and Mattstick are runners, so maybe they could help me out here.
I want to get into better shape and start running, but where do I begin?
I don't own running shoes are any 'workout' clothes, so I guess that's my 1st step?
Thanks!
GBL 2.0
Yup, start with shoes and workout gear. If there is a Running Room store in your area, head over there with your Visa card and do some damage.
Running on a treadmill is a good way to start, you can set your pace and stick to it.
Start slow and run for 10 minutes. Do this 3 or 4 times a week, the next week go to 12 minutes.
The next week go to 15 minutes.
Then 20 minutes.
Once you're running 20 minutes on the treadmill start upping the speed/tempo.
By now it will be fall weather and you'll be ready to run outside for 3-4 miles.
Drink lots of water while you run, and listen to heady Phish jams.
I got my one really out of shape buddy running by listening to different versions of Harry Hood, he would start slow in the reggae section, and move the speed up or down depending on the section of the song, when he'd get to "you can feel good about Hood" he would be in full sprint. This is a pretty epic feeling.
You should also look at what races are in your area and shoot for something at the end of the fall, you could probably run a 10k if you start now... tell everyone you know that you're running the race and set a goal time - for a beginner you should strive (jive/strive) for somewhere between 55 and 60 minutes.
I coach running clinics and have had a lot of success in the past year - so even though you stiffed me in Fantasy Baseball feel free to fire off any questions you have.
Quote from: mattstick on August 21, 2009, 07:00:47 PM
Yup, start with shoes and workout gear. If there is a Running Room store in your area, head over there with your Visa card and do some damage.
Running on a treadmill is a good way to start, you can set your pace and stick to it.
Start slow and run for 10 minutes. Do this 3 or 4 times a week, the next week go to 12 minutes.
The next week go to 15 minutes.
Then 20 minutes.
Once you're running 20 minutes on the treadmill start upping the speed/tempo.
By now it will be fall weather and you'll be ready to run outside for 3-4 miles.
Drink lots of water while you run, and listen to heady Phish jams.
I got my one really out of shape buddy running by listening to different versions of Harry Hood, he would start slow in the reggae section, and move the speed up or down depending on the section of the song, when he'd get to "you can feel good about Hood" he would be in full sprint. This is a pretty epic feeling.
You should also look at what races are in your area and shoot for something at the end of the fall, you could probably run a 10k if you start now... tell everyone you know that you're running the race and set a goal time - for a beginner you should strive (jive/strive) for somewhere between 55 and 60 minutes.
I coach running clinics and have had a lot of success in the past year - so even though you stiffed me in Fantasy Baseball feel free to fire off any questions you have.
Thanks a lot, I appreciate it and I'll definitely hit you up with any other questions.
There's a running room about a mile from my place, so I'll head over there tomorrow.
Any recomendations for shoes? I would like to get into the whole Nike+ tracking shit.
Quote from: GBL on August 21, 2009, 07:06:15 PM
There's a running room about a mile from my place, so I'll head over there tomorrow.
Any recomendations for shoes? I would like to get into the whole Nike+ tracking shit.
They'll probably have some kind of fancy machine that hooks up to your feet and then you'll fake run in place and it will spit out all kinds of crazy shoe recommendations...
If Nike's aren't the shoe for you (they fit really oddly and I'd say as many people fit them as don't), I'm sure they'll direct you to tracking products that are compatible with the footware you purchase.
Different runners have different footwear needs...what works for Aug or Mattstick, probably won't work for you (but might).
When you go to the Running Room, bring a pair of shoes that have a lot of wear, they should be able to tell a lot about your feet from the wear pattern.
If they recommend the ugliest show on the wall, buy 'em. If you want a hot pair of running shoes to look fly, buy those too but don't wear them when you run.
The Running Room should have accessories for using Nike+ without buying Nikes, a little plastic piece that holds the sensor on the outside of your shoe. After that you'll need an iPod Nano (or 3GS iPhone) and the Nike+ Kit which has the sensor and dongle piece which attaches to your Nano.
When you're at Running Room, ask an employee about Clinics and Run Club - group runs are a great way to meet people who may inspire you.
Thanks for the info, guys! +k!
Apparently I over pronate a bit so I got a pair of shoes that compensate for that
Runners World has a good "beginners" section - worth checking out for tips and motivation.
Shoes are obviously the most important equipment, but you will soon want - need other stuff too. Socks, shirts, shorts, etc. Stay away from cotton - get the "hi-tech" fiber stuff (different names depending on who makes it).
Quote from: slslbs on August 21, 2009, 11:25:37 PM
Runners World has a good "beginners" section - worth checking out for tips and motivation.
Shoes are obviously the most important equipment, but you will soon want - need other stuff too. Socks, shirts, shorts, etc. Stay away from cotton - get the "hi-tech" fiber stuff (different names depending on who makes it).
Thanks, I will def check that out..
Knowing GBL, I totally thought this thread was going to be a joke.
Guess not....
Run like the wind, Gavin! :crazy:
mid-20s crisis.
Once you start running, don't give up.
The first 2-3 weeks are gonna kick your ass.
can we get some Chariots of Fire playing in this thread?
Quote from: blatboom on August 22, 2009, 02:05:53 AM
can we get some Chariots of Fire playing in this thread?
damn that new upgrade.... I had the youtube all queued up to go, but I don't know how to imbed that stuff anymore!
Quote from: blatboom on August 22, 2009, 01:54:40 AM
mid-20s crisis.
no, just trying to keep up with 4 kids on a daily basis... ;)
Phish really needs to step it up and host the 2nd Runaway Jim 5K @ Festival 8.
It's cool to see a thread about running on here. I would still call myself a beginner for sure, but I am coming up on a year of running. I started at 330lbs last spring. I am now down to 218lbs, and running somewhere between 20-25 miles a week. I'm still losing weight, and striving to become a better runner every run. Sticking with it is the biggest thing. If you can, you will start to love/hate running. I can't even explain how I felt when I crossed the finish line at the Dam to Dam 20k. I was slow (really slow actually), but I FINISHED IT. No walking, just finished it. You'll know what I mean when you finish a couple of races you never thought you would.
As for the shoes, ABSOLUTELY the most important thing you can buy IMO. From reading this thread, it seems as though Mattstick really knows his stuff, and gave you more professional advice than I could, but I can offer my own experience. I started running with an old pair of New Balances that were pretty beat up. Blisters followed, so I got some new inserts. That helped until the shoes fell apart, and I decided I was going to reward myself for 4 mos of running with shoes. I got on the Under Armour bandwagon, and bought the new shoes that they released without consulting any professionals, just because I was a sucker for the flash. What a dumb move. Blisters every day for six months until I couldn't stand it anymore and I went to a professional who could fit me (Scheels was fine). I bought a pair of Saucony Hurricane 10s. WOW. Turns out I have pretty flat feet, and over pronate a bit. The Under Armours were meant for high arches and no pronation! Running is a completely different experience for me now.
I'm interested to hear how you are progressing! We really should keep a running thread alive in here!
Just getting my gear together and heading out the door to run "A Midsummer Nights Run" - 30K!
Shooting for 2:39:00, wish me luck!
set the gearshift!
Quote from: mattstick on August 22, 2009, 03:17:02 PM
Just getting my gear together and heading out the door to run "A Midsummer Nights Run" - 30K!
Shooting for 2:39:00, wish me luck!
Damn man, IF I could finish a 30k, my time would be closer to 3:00:00 haha! Good luck! Sounds like a cool race.
Quote from: mattstick on August 22, 2009, 03:17:02 PM
Just getting my gear together and heading out the door to run "A Midsummer Nights Run" - 30K!
Shooting for 2:39:00, wish me luck!
Good luck, Matt. That's a hell of a run. I'm going to walk all the way over to my fridge for a beer. Wish me luck.
Quote from: flow00 on August 22, 2009, 04:11:33 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 22, 2009, 03:17:02 PM
Just getting my gear together and heading out the door to run "A Midsummer Nights Run" - 30K!
Shooting for 2:39:00, wish me luck!
Good luck, Matt. That's a hell of a run. I'm going to walk all the way over to my fridge for a beer. Wish me luck.
godspeed flow!
Quote from: mattstick on August 22, 2009, 03:17:02 PM
Just getting my gear together and heading out the door to run "A Midsummer Nights Run" - 30K!
Shooting for 2:39:00, wish me luck!
Good luck, Matt!
Just thought I'd make a thread for all of us runners to post about cool runs or races, ask questions, answer questions, whine, bitch and everything else that goes along with our passion. :phish:
I started a thread dedicated to running, thought we could take a stab at that and see if we have any luck keeping it rolling ;)
http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=13335.0
Yeah, I'm gonna merge the 2 threads and keep your topic.
In other news I set the gearshift for the high gear of my soul Madison 95 style and smoked that 30K - 2:27:30 chip time.
Awesome pic to follow.
:clap:
Awesome! Good job, Matt.
Killed it!
Good stuff!
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good job mattstick. you will destroy the fucking marathon.
nice
sounds like your ready
Yeah! AWESOME time man! Holy crap, that's awesome! :beers:
Thanks for the merge, looks good!
Thanks guys - love the support.
A couple of stories:
My photographer buddy Jay came down to shoot me crossing the finish, but I didn't see him as I crossed - he walked up to me within a minute of me crossing the finish line and I was a mess - almost broke down in tears just seeing his face - crazy feeling. I nearly fell down laughing when he told me he had half a joint if I wanted to puff with him.
At the last minute I added the Scarlet>Fire from 8/1/94 (my first :syf: show) to my race playlist - great call. Shivers ran through my body when Jerry started singing Scarlet, then with about 1km to go it was time for Fire... "long distance runner", shivers again.
I tried something I'd never done in a race before, walking through the water stations, taking short (30-40 sec) walk breaks - this really helped me avoid hitting the wall hard, around 22 or 23km I hit the wall but it was more a confidence thing than fatigue.
My time put me 35th out of 140 in my age group, 30-39.
Good job. The Hartford '83 Scarlet>Fire was a favorite of mine during my short spell as a runner.
Quote from: mattstick on August 22, 2009, 11:23:40 PM
Thanks guys - love the support.
A couple of stories:
My photographer buddy Jay came down to shoot me crossing the finish, but I didn't see him as I crossed - he walked up to me within a minute of me crossing the finish line and I was a mess - almost broke down in tears just seeing his face - crazy feeling. I nearly fell down laughing when he told me he had half a joint if I wanted to puff with him.
At the last minute I added the Scarlet>Fire from 8/1/94 (my first :syf: show) to my race playlist - great call. Shivers ran through my body when Jerry started singing Scarlet, then with about 1km to go it was time for Fire... "long distance runner", shivers again.
I tried something I'd never done in a race before, walking through the water stations, taking short (30-40 sec) walk breaks - this really helped me avoid hitting the wall hard, around 22 or 23km I hit the wall but it was more a confidence thing than fatigue.
My time put me 35th out of 140 in my age group, 30-39.
Great job, Matt!
I'm 26, pretty out of shape. Should I just start as one of the first posts said to?
Quote from: PhishPhan on August 23, 2009, 01:11:47 AM
I'm 26, pretty out of shape. Should I just start as one of the first posts said to?
Starting is a good start
The only rule is, it begins.
Actually, if you're really out of shape - like can't run for 2 minutes, history of heart conditions, etc - it might not be a bad idea to consult your physician.
I'm not out of shape, like unhealthy. I just have not done any extreme workouts this summer. I guess I'll just hit up the gym and see how far I can go.
Quote from: mattstick on August 22, 2009, 10:09:39 PM
Yeah, I'm gonna merge the 2 threads and keep your topic.
In other news I set the gearshift for the high gear of my soul Madison 95 style and smoked that 30K - 2:27:30 chip time.
Awesome pic to follow.
Good job, man. You beat your goal by 12 minutes.
Quote from: PhishPhan on August 23, 2009, 01:11:47 AM
I'm 26, pretty out of shape. Should I just start as one of the first posts said to?
Yeah, I would say that if you are otherwise healthy dude that your idea of hitting up the gym and just seeing where you go is not a half bad idea. That's pretty much how I started.
Mattstick, that story about puffing is pretty hilarious. I totally know the feeling. As I finished my first 20K, at the last mile marker, they had the symphony playing and were handing out champagne toasts instead of water. I stupidly grabbed one of these. I crossed the line and saw all these guys standing around drinking beer and stuff; all I could think was how horribly I needed to used the facilities. I felt so sick, that champagne tore me up pretty well.
Post that pic when you get a chance, would be awesome to see. I'm off to grab a puff myself. :mrgreen:
Quote from: PhishPhan on August 23, 2009, 01:11:47 AM
I'm 26, pretty out of shape. Should I just start as one of the first posts said to?
go aout and alternate running (slowly) and walking. Eventually, shorten up the walks and string the runs together.
it doesn't matter how fast or slow you are, as long as your out there.
Quote from: flow00 on August 22, 2009, 04:11:33 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 22, 2009, 03:17:02 PM
Just getting my gear together and heading out the door to run "A Midsummer Nights Run" - 30K!
Shooting for 2:39:00, wish me luck!
Good luck, Matt. That's a hell of a run. I'm going to walk all the way over to my fridge for a beer. Wish me luck.
:lol:
Quote from: slslbs on August 23, 2009, 01:41:25 PM
Quote from: PhishPhan on August 23, 2009, 01:11:47 AM
I'm 26, pretty out of shape. Should I just start as one of the first posts said to?
go aout and alternate running (slowly) and walking. Eventually, shorten up the walks and string the runs together.
it doesn't matter how fast or slow you are, as long as your out there.
Here's what I used when I started, and the site is pretty rad. Has helpful tips, etc... This is a pretty easy plan to follow, and if you can keep your self motivated, it produces results!
http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml
Anyone thought of a Week4Paug Running Challenge? Like we should try to reach for x amount of miles by November or something. I have no idea if it could work or if people would want to participate but there seems to be a decent amount of runners here.
Quote from: PhishPhan on August 23, 2009, 07:38:12 PM
Anyone thought of a Week4Paug Running Challenge? Like we should try to reach for x amount of miles by November or something. I have no idea if it could work or if people would want to participate but there seems to be a decent amount of runners here.
That could be interesting... I'd be down to give it a shot for sure.
I listened to Set1 @ Bridgeview 8/11/09 during my 3miler today. Pushing through Windy City towards the end of the run was rough... The Curtain With brought me into a strong finish though.
Nike+, d00ds...
Quote from: G. Augusto on August 24, 2009, 07:42:39 PM
Nike+, d00ds...
Picked that shit up for my daughter today.
She can compete in the challenge for me.
Quote from: birdman on August 24, 2009, 07:58:56 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on August 24, 2009, 07:42:39 PM
Nike+, d00ds...
Picked that shit up for my daughter today.
She can compete in the challenge for me.
Nice!
She's gonna *LUV* it.
His daughter is a ringer.
I wouldn't bet against her.
it's fun to know that a lot of us run...
i'm shooting for the Turkey Trot here in Chicago with some gals i work with, on thanksgiving day... 8K... (5 miles, nothing HUGE)
so much going on between now and then, but i'm gonna do it :)
Here's me makin' 30K look easy - around the 21km mark
Quote from: mattstick on August 25, 2009, 08:31:06 AM
Here's me makin' 30K look easy - around the 21km mark
Beautiful, man! Looks like fun times.
it's been a fairly rewarding summer
2nd for age on 7/4
My wife was #1 woman walker in the Jerry ?Garcia memorial race end of July.
I filled out a raffle and won a free pair of running shoes (I never win anything)
So, I'm going shoe shopping this week, should I get 2 pairs? One for my more serious runs and a pair of cross trainers, for general workout?
My plan is to start going to the gym Mon, Wed, Fri and do about 10-12 minutes of running followed by some moderate upper body strengthening (i.e. sit ups, push ups, and pull ups).
And as Matt suggested earlier in this thread, the week after ill bump it up a lil bit, then a lil bit more, etc.
Is your new girlfriend making you do all of this?
Girlfriends, lol..
i dont run much, my left knee gets pretty sore if i push it. it hurts sometimes when i hike a lot but in that case i just dont let it bother me because its easier to adjust my stride or steps when hiking than when running.
but, today we were riding our bikes on our local railtrail (converted railroad to trail) and my fiancee was telling me how people who do triathlons say that the hardest part is the transition from biking to running, and that it feels really crazy in your legs. so about 12 miles into a 15 mile ride, we put our bikes down and ran for a mile.
holy crap is it hard! im sure there are some techniques or tips to make it a little easier, like using a lower gear leading up to the transition or something, but next time youre looking for a challenge and have a bike around, get on it for a few miles before you take off running, its pretty wild. after about a half mile things start to feel normal again, but that first half is like trying to lift a ton of bricks w/ your thighs.
I'm a Brooks man myself. Needed to upgrade the GTS 9s but the 10s don't come out until January. So I went with Defyance 2. Great for longer runs, b/c they have the most cushioning of any Brooks I've seen so far.
Asics aren't bad, either, but Brooks is where it's at.
use to run in Nikes, now Saucony's. Whatever fits / feels best, and that would be different for everyone.
Quote from: GBL on August 30, 2009, 12:10:03 PM
So, I'm going shoe shopping this week, should I get 2 pairs? One for my more serious runs and a pair of cross trainers, for general workout?
My plan is to start going to the gym Mon, Wed, Fri and do about 10-12 minutes of running followed by some moderate upper body strengthening (i.e. sit ups, push ups, and pull ups).
And as Matt suggested earlier in this thread, the week after ill bump it up a lil bit, then a lil bit more, etc.
I would get 1 pair for now
keep a log, shoes are good for about 400 - 500 miles (for running)
when you get your next pair, you can use the "old" pair when you do the strenghthening.
Quote from: slslbs on August 31, 2009, 10:55:10 PM
I would get 1 pair for now
keep a log, shoes are good for about 400 - 500 miles (for running)
when you get your next pair, you can use the "old" pair when you do the strenghthening.
Thanks
Did 3 miles yesterday, and listened to the studio album of Joy. Didn't make it through the whole thing on the run obviously, but KDF totally gave me a kick in the ass to keep going. Enjoyed this record while running.
Did a 4 miler today and listened (half heartedly) to a new advance of a record my buddy has been talking up. The band is called Brand New, and it was hell. I tried and tried, then about mile 2 I realized that I couldn't do it and had to switch. Went with Brian Wilson's Lucky Old Sun record from last year. That man is amazing. Total awesome run record.
brand new?
sheesh, i'd not trust that friend for music anymore ;)
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 09:46:16 AM
brand new?
sheesh, i'd not trust that friend for music anymore ;)
Yeah. We've grown up together, but we are so far apart musically. He listens to what I would call complete crap. Nickelback, Shinedown, Brand New... I drug him to the Chicago Phish show and I think he was pretty bored even though he tried to get into it ;)
Quote from: aphineday on September 02, 2009, 01:29:05 PM
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 09:46:16 AM
brand new?
sheesh, i'd not trust that friend for music anymore ;)
Yeah. We've grown up together, but we are so far apart musically. He listens to what I would call complete crap. Nickelback, Shinedown, Brand New... I drug him to the Chicago Phish show and I think he was pretty bored even though he tried to get into it ;)
Nickleback?
Shinedown?
ouch.
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 02, 2009, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: aphineday on September 02, 2009, 01:29:05 PM
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 09:46:16 AM
brand new?
sheesh, i'd not trust that friend for music anymore ;)
Yeah. We've grown up together, but we are so far apart musically. He listens to what I would call complete crap. Nickelback, Shinedown, Brand New... I drug him to the Chicago Phish show and I think he was pretty bored even though he tried to get into it ;)
Nickleback?
Shinedown?
ouch.
yes, ouch...
too bad you didnt' drag him to Pearl Jam the next week.. mayeb you two could have found common ground ;)
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 01:32:40 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 02, 2009, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: aphineday on September 02, 2009, 01:29:05 PM
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 09:46:16 AM
brand new?
sheesh, i'd not trust that friend for music anymore ;)
Yeah. We've grown up together, but we are so far apart musically. He listens to what I would call complete crap. Nickelback, Shinedown, Brand New... I drug him to the Chicago Phish show and I think he was pretty bored even though he tried to get into it ;)
Nickleback?
Shinedown?
ouch.
yes, ouch...
too bad you didnt' drag him to Pearl Jam the next week.. mayeb you two could have found common ground ;)
You know I never really thought about it, but I bet you are right. I know he likes Pearl Jam, and so do I (at least a lot more than any of the other bands he listens to).
And yes, very ouch on his musical selections. He actually called me when his GF refused to go see Shinedown with him, and although he made it through Phish for me, I just couldn't do it. I feel like a bad friend, but that music is just ridiculous to a new level.
Quote from: aphineday on September 02, 2009, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 01:32:40 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 02, 2009, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: aphineday on September 02, 2009, 01:29:05 PM
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 09:46:16 AM
brand new?
sheesh, i'd not trust that friend for music anymore ;)
Yeah. We've grown up together, but we are so far apart musically. He listens to what I would call complete crap. Nickelback, Shinedown, Brand New... I drug him to the Chicago Phish show and I think he was pretty bored even though he tried to get into it ;)
Nickleback?
Shinedown?
ouch.
yes, ouch...
too bad you didnt' drag him to Pearl Jam the next week.. mayeb you two could have found common ground ;)
You know I never really thought about it, but I bet you are right. I know he likes Pearl Jam, and so do I (at least a lot more than any of the other bands he listens to).
And yes, very ouch on his musical selections. He actually called me when his GF refused to go see Shinedown with him, and although he made it through Phish for me, I just couldn't do it. I feel like a bad friend, but that music is just ridiculous to a new level.
friendships are very important, but there are somethings you just can't sit through/do even tho you love them dearly.... i can imagine shinedown (whatever the fuck they are) is one of them.
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 01:54:37 PM
shinedown (whatever the fuck they are)
my thoughts exactly. but, after being introduced to the milkshake song earlier today, ive reached my "new music you know you wont like" threshold for the day. shew.
Quote from: guyforget on September 02, 2009, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 01:54:37 PM
shinedown (whatever the fuck they are)
my thoughts exactly. but, after being introduced to the milkshake song earlier today, ive reached my "new music you know you wont like" threshold for the day. shew.
that milkshake talk was priceless... i was in tears laughing on the bus...
you should have known not to ask ;)
damn right, it's better than yours :P
Quote from: guyforget on September 02, 2009, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 02, 2009, 01:54:37 PM
shinedown (whatever the fuck they are)
my thoughts exactly. but, after being introduced to the milkshake song earlier today, ive reached my "new music you know you wont like" threshold for the day. shew.
HAH! I totally agree with you. Shinedown is just another Nickelback clone of the month. Don't waste your time, trust me ;)
rats, now i gotta find out who nickleback is?
(at least thats a name ive heard before, even if i cant place a song)
Quote from: guyforget on September 02, 2009, 02:32:34 PM
rats, now i gotta find out who nickleback is?
(at least thats a name ive heard before, even if i cant place a song)
don't.
again.... you'll be sorry.
think shitty song in the spiderman movie. it's the lead singer from NB... its' like that, maybe worse... if that's possible.
Quote from: guyforget on September 02, 2009, 02:32:34 PM
rats, now i gotta find out who nickleback is?
(at least thats a name ive heard before, even if i cant place a song)
Trust me, nickelback's milkshake does not bring the boys to the yard
<insert youtube clip of Nickelback being pelted by rocks here>
Quote from: mattstick on September 02, 2009, 03:37:21 PM
<insert youtube clip of Nickelback being pelted by rocks here>
Most definitely. On a side note, it's actually pretty refreshing to find someone who doesn't even know who they are. :banana:
Back on topic--Saucony Jazz shoes have kept my feet healthy for 20 years, thousands of miles, and three marathons. (Not the same pair, mind you....)
But since the kid was born I'm so out of shape it's going to be like starting from scratch again.
Sorry to be so late to the party--my machine crashed, so here I am at a public library.
Quote from: sunrisevt on September 02, 2009, 03:59:40 PM
Back on topic--Saucony Jazz shoes have kept my feet healthy for 20 years, thousands of miles, and three marathons. (Not the same pair, mind you....)
But since the kid was born I'm so out of shape it's going to be like starting from scratch again.
Sorry to be so late to the party--my machine crashed, so here I am at a public library.
Yeah, the jury is still out on these Saucony Hurricanes that I just bought in terms of overall durability/longevity, but in terms of comfort, blisters, etc., probably the best shoes I've owned thus far. I can't see myself switching any time soon unless durability/longevity becomes a huge issue.
Farltek sucks. Just thought I'd share. :frustrated:
I would rather listen to the milkshake song all day long than be forced to listen to nickleback.
In other, more topic related news, I started running this past week.....
Is there a trick to make myself not give up and feel like I am going to die if I run 10 feet further?
Also, is it "better" (whatever that means) to be running at a slower pace, for a longer distance & time, rather than running faster for a shorter distance and time?
fwiw, I'm not trying to run a marathon or anything, just get in better shape and sustain a healthy lifestyle :-)
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 04, 2009, 01:43:51 AM
I would rather listen to the milkshake song all day long than be forced to listen to nickleback.
In other, more topic related news, I started running this past week.....
Is there a trick to make myself not give up and feel like I am going to die if I run 10 feet further?
Also, is it "better" (whatever that means) to be running at a slower pace, for a longer distance & time, rather than running faster for a shorter distance and time?
fwiw, I'm not trying to run a marathon or anything, just get in better shape and sustain a healthy lifestyle :-)
I'll defer to mattstick and some of the guys who have been running longer than I have (I'm just over a year) for the most part, but I might add that this "Couch to 5k plan" from Coolrunning.com is how I started, and it's a very solid beginners guide. Following it will really put you in the best shape to run, and through the correct steps of getting there as injury free as possible.
I now kind of have 3 different runs I do. 1 is a pace run (usually 3-4 miles) and I run it pretty solidly. 2 is my long run (I jog pretty much... but go further (usually 4-7 miles). And 3 (and I would not suggest you even think abou this for quite some time) is "farltek", or speedplay which is running in intervals essentially; ie. I jog 2 minutes to warm up, then run really hard for a minute, then back down to a jog for two, run 1, jog 2, etc.. for 35-40 minutes. This schedule is really what I've read works best to increase your endurance of running. So all in all, I guess it's really up to you, but I definitely vote for slower pace longer, and maybe trying that couch to 5k plan that worked for me.
As for the trick... I wouldn't assume that's really what some of us call "hitting the wall", I would rather assume that your body just really isn't used to the stress of running. Any recommendation here is tough because there are essentially two correct answers. The best answer is LISTEN TO YOUR BODY, it knows its limits! That being said, there is a certain "mental block" you have to push through with running. You'll learn as you continue that you most likely aren't going to die if you run 10 feet further, and one day you'll just try running it to see what happens maybe (thats what I did). Just keep an eye on your self, and don't try to push it too far too quick, and you'll hopefully be setting your self up for some awesome healthy changes. I'm literally a different person since I started running.
Hope that helped a bit from a guy that's definitely been where you are (and probably way further.. when I started running last year I was 330. I could barely walk. I'm 215 now ;).
Oh yeah and fuck Nickelback.... sorry that wasn't blatantly stated by me earlier enough! ;) :samurai:
Finished my final distance run before the marathon - 37K!
Only took 3:30 total time too, with lots of stops at gas stations and water breaks.
Next up, 42.2.
Quote from: mattstick on September 06, 2009, 02:02:54 PM
Finished my final distance run before the marathon - 37K!
Only took 3:30 total time too, with lots of stops at gas stations and water breaks.
Next up, 42.2.
Oh man... you are an animal! I'm prepping for a 1/2 and think I'm going to die!
I ran a Half for the first time in May, keep your training going after and you'll be marathoning in no time.
Quote from: mattstick on September 06, 2009, 02:02:54 PM
Finished my final distance run before the marathon - 37K!
Only took 3:30 total time too, with lots of stops at gas stations and water breaks.
Next up, 42.2.
good luck
relax and enjoy your taper!!
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 04, 2009, 01:43:51 AM
I would rather listen to the milkshake song all day long than be forced to listen to nickleback.
In other, more topic related news, I started running this past week.....
Is there a trick to make myself not give up and feel like I am going to die if I run 10 feet further?
Also, is it "better" (whatever that means) to be running at a slower pace, for a longer distance & time, rather than running faster for a shorter distance and time?
fwiw, I'm not trying to run a marathon or anything, just get in better shape and sustain a healthy lifestyle :-)
start slow. don't worry about how fast you're going.
Some pics from the Midsummer Nights Run 30K
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 04, 2009, 01:43:51 AM
Also, is it "better" (whatever that means) to be running at a slower pace, for a longer distance & time, rather than running faster for a shorter distance and time?
fwiw, I'm not trying to run a marathon or anything, just get in better shape and sustain a healthy lifestyle :-)
If you're not training, and want to get into better shape, you can mix in speedwork and intervals with long runs. If you
are training for a marathon (or even a 1/2), you could go the LSD route. That's basically almost all of my runs. I don't do any fartleks, speedwork or anything like that. Some cross training here and there. LSD has its critics, though, so it just depends on what you like.
like wtu? needs any encouragement to do lsd, jeez. :roll: ;D
(yes, i know, long slow distance)
:wtu:
If you want to become a runner, do lots of LSD kids!
:wink:
Quote from: ghost_2000 on September 08, 2009, 08:32:08 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 04, 2009, 01:43:51 AM
Also, is it "better" (whatever that means) to be running at a slower pace, for a longer distance & time, rather than running faster for a shorter distance and time?
fwiw, I'm not trying to run a marathon or anything, just get in better shape and sustain a healthy lifestyle :-)
If you're not training, and want to get into better shape, you can mix in speedwork and intervals with long runs. If you are training for a marathon (or even a 1/2), you could go the LSD route. That's basically almost all of my runs. I don't do any fartleks, speedwork or anything like that. Some cross training here and there. LSD has its critics, though, so it just depends on what you like.
^^^This is all accurate, but I'd go simpler: think time, not distance. Run whatever pace you need to in order to keep it up for a half hour.
Thanks for the advice ya'll.
I'm going to try the Acid method first. How hard can it be to run through beautiful fields of melting colors, and glorious tangible epiphanies?
Now that sounds like my type of exercise.
:wtu:
I was tripping during the Runaway Jim 5K @ IT.
Quote from: mattstick on September 09, 2009, 04:19:18 PM
I was tripping during the Runaway Jim 5K @ IT.
Impressive, how did that work out for you?
I truly don't think I could ever do that!
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 09, 2009, 04:27:17 PM
Quote from: mattstick on September 09, 2009, 04:19:18 PM
I was tripping during the Runaway Jim 5K @ IT.
Impressive, how did that work out for you?
I truly don't think I could ever do that!
It's only about a 15-25 minute run. It's probably a lot easier than it sounds. The only thing that was probably difficult is that it was hot and you probably get dehydrated quite easily on LSD. The dehydration would probably lead to leg cramping if you didn't drink enough.
Ever ride the coasters on LSD? Adrenaline kicks in and overrides most other drugs. The last 2km was super trippy and really slow.
Adrenaline is quite the kick ass drug, to be sure.
Gearing up for my first full - the Indy Monumental the first Saturday in November. I love fall/winter running outside. Fall, especially, with the leaves and whatnot. Crank up some fresh Phish and it really is a high like no other.
Quote from: ghost_2000 on September 09, 2009, 06:18:24 PM
Adrenaline is quite the kick ass drug, to be sure.
Gearing up for my first full - the Indy Monumental the first Saturday in November. I love fall/winter running outside. Fall, especially, with the leaves and whatnot. Crank up some fresh Phish and it really is a high like no other.
Hell yes. Summer is rearing it's ugly ass head around here still ;) Soon, however it will be time for lush leaves, chilly temps, and all around beautifulness. I too love fall/winter running, but the seasons are nice. I don't do too well in the heat of the summer, so most of my summer runs are either early or late.
I'm not sure how I'd do running while tripping, but I'd damn sure give it a shot if Phish can pull together another 5K!
One caveat about LSD, though:
"Long slow distance makes long slow runners."
So if distance is your thing, trip your balls off!
13 days.
Yes.
Well, congrats..
I hope you do well!
Good luck Matt, and have fun.
zOMG it's tomorrow.
looks like you might get a little wet tomorrow bud, good luck!
Ran the Cow Harbor 10K today.
All hills and plenty fun.
50:51 @ 8:12.
Smashed it!
Good luck tomorrow, Matt!
looks like we can follow matt's progress @
http://www.sportstats.ca/
My results will definitely be up there, not sure how "real time" the split times are though.
Look for me to run pretty constant 5 min/km for most of the race, first couple km I will get a minute or two ahead of schedule so I can finish under 3 hours 30.
what's your number?
Quote from: G. Augusto on September 26, 2009, 02:30:08 PM
Ran the Cow Harbor 10K today.
All hills and plenty fun.
50:51 @ 8:12.
Smashed it!
Good luck tomorrow, Matt!
nice
:beers:
Good luck, Matt!
And, congrats to Aug!
:beers:
we're 3:07 into the thing and matt's aiming for 3:30ish, so he should be coming in soon. theres a live feed on http://www.torontowaterfrontmarathon.com/en/live.htm
Way to go Mattstick!
3:37:59
:beers: :beers:
Unless Time Turned Elastic I don't think that was my finishing time. I fell apart around 26 and was a total mess in the last 5.
Definitely a learning experience and the hardest thing I've done in my life.
I want to thank everyone here for your support and intrest - when things got tough I thought of you guys!
Holly and I were watching the video stream, waiting for the announcer to say your name. We watched until it popped up your time on the results page, he didnt ever say your name. But their feed was bad, it kept cutting out and the guy kept checking his mic. It broke to a commercial at one point, and also kept showing the huge crowd of 5k'ers. We were hoping he'd say your name as you crossed. There were a lot of dudes who looked like you, but the video quality was very poor so you could barely make out any facial features, just dudes w/ the belts w/ water bottles that you wear and ipods on their arms. We just kept going "is that him? no, is that him?" haha.
But we were cheering for you buddy, from our couch... on our fat asses, eating breakfast. You were at least 20 miles into your morning when I got out of bed...
congrats mattstick! quite an accomplishment.
Congrats, Matt!
You've won because you started... :wink:
^^^Well said, aug.
Congratulations to both of you. :beers:
This is what you look like after 42.2 km
Quote from: mattstick on September 30, 2009, 08:32:19 AM
This is what you look like after 42.2 km
Congrats Mattstick. That's huge man.
Quote from: mattstick on September 30, 2009, 08:32:19 AM
This is what you look like after 42.2 km
Congrats, dude. That's huge.
I am going to start running a few days a week to get in shape for basketball season. Gotta get those girls in shape before the season starts, too.
As I was finishing there was literally a guy crawling across the finish line - so in my finishing picture I will probably be triumphantly crossing, arms in the air smiling, while the guy next to me is crawling. :-D
Quote from: mattstick on September 30, 2009, 09:57:07 AM
As I was finishing there was literally a guy crawling across the finish line - so in my finishing picture I will probably be triumphantly crossing, arms in the air smiling, while the guy next to me is crawling. :-D
That's a photo that I want to see.
Quote from: mattstick on September 30, 2009, 09:57:07 AM
As I was finishing there was literally a guy crawling across the finish line - so in my finishing picture I will probably be triumphantly crossing, arms in the air smiling, while the guy next to me is crawling. :-D
You smug bastard. :wink:
Hahahahaha
Poor guy!
LOL!
oh man, thats awesome. avatar worthy.
Here are more pics, without the watermarks.
so at what point did dude hit the ground and start crawling? was he there when you rounded the last corner? did he drop in front of you? was he crawling for 3 meters or 30 meters?
he did better than i could do, so no offense to the man, i just want to know what you were seeing as you made the final 100 meters.
He finished, so props to him..
Anyone ever remember seeing that video footage of the guy who did the Iron man competition, where his body totally broke down at the finish line?
He started shaking and fell over over about 20 feet from the finish line, he couldn't even walk. When I 1st saw that video I thought he was having a stroke!
Quote from: guyforget on October 01, 2009, 10:07:42 PM
so at what point did dude hit the ground and start crawling? was he there when you rounded the last corner? did he drop in front of you? was he crawling for 3 meters or 30 meters?
he did better than i could do, so no offense to the man, i just want to know what you were seeing as you made the final 100 meters.
I don't remember much (running on adreneline) but I do remember seeing him on the ground for a while, I'd guess he collapsed 5 - 10m from the end?
Imagine how he felt when he saw his finishing picture and I'm all up in it smiling with my arms in the air!
^^^Yeah, you prick!
:-P
Quote from: mattstick on October 02, 2009, 11:59:55 AM
Imagine how he felt when he saw his finishing picture and I'm all up in it smiling with my arms in the air!
<other guy>
DAMN YOU FAVREEEEEE!!! <mentally shakes fist in air>
</other guy>
Hilarious!
Good work Matt.
well, the dude finished
to quote an ex Pres - I feel his pain
I remember the first marathon I ran, I passed a guy at about mile 21 or so.
He had big letters on the back of his shirt
DNR
best shirt I saw all day
(Do Not Resuscitate)
:lol:
^^
One of the best I've seen said "3 months ago this seemed like a good idea." But that DNR one is better!
Running a 10K this Saturday as a tuneup for my first full in 32 days in Indy.
Check this story out:
http://deadspin.com/5376671/jerry-johncock-jury+rigs-johnson-while-jogging
QuoteThis raises many troubling questions. One, who carries a spare catheter in their car? Two, who uses a catheter that he borrowed from a complete stranger on the street? Three, how much of a lazy ass do you feel like knowing that an 81-year-old man stopped for an invasive urinary tract procedure in the middle of a marathon and still finished in under four hours
:-D
good luck on your first full
Today I'm purchasing my big fall item... the Garmin Forerunner 405CX... I'm so stoked. Will post a review a bit later for any interested.
Quote from: slslbs on October 07, 2009, 09:32:04 PM
QuoteThis raises many troubling questions. One, who carries a spare catheter in their car? Two, who uses a catheter that he borrowed from a complete stranger on the street? Three, how much of a lazy ass do you feel like knowing that an 81-year-old man stopped for an invasive urinary tract procedure in the middle of a marathon and still finished in under four hours
:-D
good luck on your first full
Thank you! Last year I did the half (it's the Monumental in Indy on 11/7) and it was surprisingly mild. I'm curious to see what the weather will be...in Indiana in November we could get anything.
Another running item from Deadspin. Two in one week? Holy hell!
http://deadspin.com/5377608/fascists-sponsoring-marathons-now-apparently
I listened to my iPod and took water from outside the water stations!
Do you have a goal time ghost_2000?
I heard once that in NY people in the crowd were handing out "water" that was really vodka.
I always stick to official - there's usually plenty, and it's predictable.
DQ someone for that, or an ipod, is a bit harsh
I always have bottles with gels or gatorade, during the marathon I did a switch with my Dad.
Quote from: mattstick on October 09, 2009, 08:47:37 AM
I listened to my iPod and took water from outside the water stations!
Do you have a goal time ghost_2000?
Ya, I've run in races where technically you're not supposed to use mP3 players, but it's rarely enforced.
Ideally I'd like anything under 3:30, but realistically I'll take 3:30-3:40.
Nice - good luck!
Thank you!
Anywho, since I started the thread I might as well chime in with my progress. I joined Snap fitness about three weeks ago basically for three reasons: They have a location 1.2 miles from my house, I need a place to workout/run in the winter because it get's cold here in Minneapolis, and finally they have unlimited tanning for only $9 a month :wink:...
So I started out running, or jogging, whatever, 1.2 miles for the first week (going Monday, Wed, Friday). 1.5 for the second and now this week I have been running 1.8 fairly easily. And by easily I mean its easier then the 1.2 when I first started.
Over the last couple of weeks I've been throwing in some other upper body workouts as well, cuz' I need to get my fat ass in shape..
I guess I'm just kinda wondering, my goal was to run the turkey trot 5k on thanksgiving but im wondering if my current pace will give me enough stretch time. Im running at about a 9-10 min pace as well..
Got a cheap(er) pair of reeboks as well
(http://sn110w.snt110.mail.live.com/att/GetAttachment.aspx?tnail=0&messageId=28299ab0-b9e7-11de-bd1f-00215ad6eef8&Aux=4%7C0%7C8CC1C0B0F8C53B0%7C%7C)
You can DEF run the race.
Another mile in just over a month is easily reachable.
Congrats on the tanning!
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 15, 2009, 07:58:29 PM
You can DEF run the race.
Another mile in just over a month is easily reachable.
Congrats on the tanning!
haha
thanks! you were right though, these past 3 weeks have been tough, but i feel my body getting more adjusted, so im happy about that.
Quote from: GBL on October 15, 2009, 08:01:22 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 15, 2009, 07:58:29 PM
You can DEF run the race.
Another mile in just over a month is easily reachable.
Congrats on the tanning!
haha
thanks! you were right though, these past 3 weeks have been tough, but i feel my body getting more adjusted, so im happy about that.
Just remember...don't stop running.
Now is a great time to keep that mantra in the back of your head.
I'm for serious, too!
If you want to run 2 miles one day...take your time and
don't stop running until you hit it.
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 15, 2009, 08:04:28 PM
Quote from: GBL on October 15, 2009, 08:01:22 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 15, 2009, 07:58:29 PM
You can DEF run the race.
Another mile in just over a month is easily reachable.
Congrats on the tanning!
haha
thanks! you were right though, these past 3 weeks have been tough, but i feel my body getting more adjusted, so im happy about that.
Just remember...don't stop running.
Now is a great time to keep that mantra in the back of your head.
I'm for serious, too!
If you want to run 2 miles one day...take your time and don't stop running until you hit it.
Truer words have probably been spoken, but I want to believe they haven't been.
Toronto Zoo 10K tomorrow morning.
My PB for 10K is 41:55 - I'm gonna go out and try and beat that but it'll be tough.
This was the first race I decided to try and run last year, and it really got me inspired to go further/faster.
My time last year was 55 min, crazy that I'm trying to beat that by 15 minutes only 1 year later.
Quote from: mattstick on October 16, 2009, 10:44:04 AM
Toronto Zoo 10K tomorrow morning.
My PB for 10K is 41:55 - I'm gonna go out and try and beat that but it'll be tough.
This was the first race I decided to try and run last year, and it really got me inspired to go further/faster.
My time last year was 55 min, crazy that I'm trying to beat that by 15 minutes only 1 year later.
Good luck! That's a pretty lofty goal, but at least it's a good motivator!
Ugh. Right leg = shin splint, partially missing toenail I had to pull off a month ago, my big toe is starting to turn black and blue, and I've got 2 blisters on my outer 2 toes.
It's always something.
Pain is temporary, Finishing is forever.
I dunno, man...you should have told that to my IT Band 6 months ago.
:wink:
small run, 5K for me tomorrow.... 8K on turkey day, too...
keep it up, GBL! :)
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 16, 2009, 02:04:34 PM
small run, 5K for me tomorrow.... 8K on turkey day, too...
keep it up, GBL! :)
Nice! 5Ks are fun, and there's nothing like a good run on turkey day! I'm still looking for my turkey day race!
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 16, 2009, 02:04:34 PM
small run, 5K for me tomorrow.... 8K on turkey day, too...
keep it up, GBL! :)
Ditto!
So I was thinking for any of us runners/joggers/etc.. heading to 8, we should try and coordinate some runs while there. A good run before the day's festivities would be awesome. I know I'll definitely be up for at least 2 or 3 miles each morning just to keep my head right. Anyone who might be interested?
Rocked the Zoo 10k this morning, 45:13 - off my PB but this is a tough road course with hills and turns... felt good, could have pushed it a little bit harder but post-marathon, this was a pretty good result.
nice
best you didn't push it so close to the marathon
doing a 5K early November.
we have a great local 5K / 5M (8K) in our town Thanksgiving, but unfortunately I gotta work, so no racing for me that day
Quote from: mattstick on October 17, 2009, 12:55:35 PM
Rocked the Zoo 10k this morning, 45:13 - off my PB but this is a tough road course with hills and turns... felt good, could have pushed it a little bit harder but post-marathon, this was a pretty good result.
Good work man! Best to not push it too hard post marathon. That's where people get hurt.
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 16, 2009, 02:04:34 PM
small run, 5K for me tomorrow.... 8K on turkey day, too...
keep it up, GBL! :)
finished it better than i expected.
been smoke free, completely, for a little over two months. still hacked up half my lung when it was over.
great run tho! fun times...
next up: turkey day.
Nice work!
How often are you running during the week?
Quote from: mattstick on October 16, 2009, 12:59:23 PM
Pain is temporary, Finishing is forever.
Did you see that three people died during the Detroit marathon?
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 19, 2009, 04:23:26 PM
Nice work!
How often are you running during the week?
thanks!
3-4 times/week... but it's all inside.
now that i have this route mapped out across from my place i'm gonna get outside more...
big difference from tredmill -> outside.
Congrats, Mandi!
Oops, my bad, CONGRATS MANDI!!! You'll be rocking 100 kilometers through the badlands in no time!
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 19, 2009, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 16, 2009, 12:59:23 PM
Pain is temporary, Finishing is forever.
Did you see that three people died during the Detroit marathon?
So....
not finishing is also forever?
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 19, 2009, 04:28:08 PM
Oops, my bad, CONGRATS MANDI!!! You'll be rocking 100 kilometers through the badlands in no time!
thanks!
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 19, 2009, 04:26:01 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 19, 2009, 04:23:26 PM
Nice work!
How often are you running during the week?
thanks!
3-4 times/week... but it's all inside.
now that i have this route mapped out across from my place i'm gonna get outside more...
big difference from tredmill -> outside.
I've been getting bored of the loops around here, so I'll make a playlist of Phish jams and won't stop until it's done.
It's a good way to break up the monotony.
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 19, 2009, 04:28:34 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 19, 2009, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 16, 2009, 12:59:23 PM
Pain is temporary, Finishing is forever.
Did you see that three people died during the Detroit marathon?
So....not finishing is also forever?
To be fair, one of them did finish (the half marathon).
Also, aug, the second set of 11/21/97 is one of the best fucking things to play for a run ever. Ditto with 12/6/97 II.
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 19, 2009, 04:31:23 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 19, 2009, 04:28:34 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 19, 2009, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 16, 2009, 12:59:23 PM
Pain is temporary, Finishing is forever.
Did you see that three people died during the Detroit marathon?
So....not finishing is also forever?
To be fair, one of them did finish (the half marathon).
Also, aug, the second set of 11/21/97 is one of the best fucking things to play for a run ever. Ditto with 12/6/97 II.
Really?
Both of those are lame sets.
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 19, 2009, 04:31:00 PM
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 19, 2009, 04:26:01 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 19, 2009, 04:23:26 PM
Nice work!
How often are you running during the week?
thanks!
3-4 times/week... but it's all inside.
now that i have this route mapped out across from my place i'm gonna get outside more...
big difference from tredmill -> outside.
I've been getting bored of the loops around here, so I'll make a playlist of Phish jams and won't stop until it's done.
It's a good way to break up the monotony.
word.
i need to start making playlists like that... the more distracting , the better.
distance, right now, isn't my thing... but length of time is... like as long as i run 45 minutes to an hour, when i do, i'm happy...
I gave them both a C+, for some reason running makes them listenable.
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 19, 2009, 04:22:13 PM
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 16, 2009, 02:04:34 PM
small run, 5K for me tomorrow.... 8K on turkey day, too...
keep it up, GBL! :)
finished it better than i expected.
been smoke free, completely, for a little over two months. still hacked up half my lung when it was over.
great run tho! fun times...
next up: turkey day.
WTG Coleman!
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 19, 2009, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 16, 2009, 12:59:23 PM
Pain is temporary, Finishing is forever.
Did you see that three people died during the Detroit marathon?
Its detroit, they only count the ones who die of natural causes
/LRN2DUK
I just ran to the mailbox and back :|
It's too cold to run here...
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 19, 2009, 04:22:13 PM
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 16, 2009, 02:04:34 PM
small run, 5K for me tomorrow.... 8K on turkey day, too...
keep it up, GBL! :)
finished it better than i expected.
been smoke free, completely, for a little over two months. still hacked up half my lung when it was over.
great run tho! fun times...
next up: turkey day.
congrats!
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 19, 2009, 04:31:23 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 19, 2009, 04:28:34 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 19, 2009, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 16, 2009, 12:59:23 PM
Pain is temporary, Finishing is forever.
Did you see that three people died during the Detroit marathon?
So....not finishing is also forever?
To be fair, one of them did finish (the half marathon).
sux. wasn't even a hot day
:-(
I was thinking the cold might have had something to do with it.
They were cases of dehydration, and possibly the cold might have fooled these people into not drinking enough water... or something.
Gotta hydrate, regardless of the temp.
Lots of strange marathon happenings recently!
http://deadspin.com/5386175/marathoners-never-trained-get-it-for-this
Quote from: ghost_2000 on October 21, 2009, 11:12:20 AM
Gotta hydrate, regardless of the temp.
Lots of strange marathon happenings recently!
http://deadspin.com/5386175/marathoners-never-trained-get-it-for-this
That's an amazing story. Thanks for the website link, btw.
Quote from: ghost_2000 on October 21, 2009, 11:12:20 AM
Gotta hydrate, regardless of the temp.
Lots of strange marathon happenings recently!
http://deadspin.com/5386175/marathoners-never-trained-get-it-for-this
I will never get those 20 seconds of my life back, thanks..
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 20, 2009, 01:00:07 PM
I was thinking the cold might have had something to do with it.
They were cases of dehydration, and possibly the cold might have fooled these people into not drinking enough water... or something.
temp was in the 40s - that's actually reasonable for runing 26.
tragic.
Quote from: GBL on October 21, 2009, 03:30:59 PM
Quote from: ghost_2000 on October 21, 2009, 11:12:20 AM
Gotta hydrate, regardless of the temp.
Lots of strange marathon happenings recently!
http://deadspin.com/5386175/marathoners-never-trained-get-it-for-this
I will never get those 20 seconds of my life back, thanks..
Maybe something like this gave Rosie Ruiz the idea for her stunt
this thread just inspired me to go for a double hood run., felt great
soundtrack:
10/21/95 Hood (4 years ago today)
7/16/94 Hood ->TOTAL divided sky tease in the middle of trey's solo @ 13:48... if you wanna get teased.
EDIT: they didn't even play divided sky that night, schweet.
I love that Sugarbush "Hood!"
Found this via Deadspin:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/22/fashion/22FITNESS.html?_r=2&ref=todayspaper
I've already lost one nail and will probably lose my big nail on my right foot here in the near future. Argh.
I'm trying to get my ass back in running shape. Any of the midwestern runners up for a possible half marathon in the spring? I feel like I really need to set my next goal to get my training more consistent again.
If it was a painless and cheap procedure I would have a couple toenails removed.
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on October 22, 2009, 12:54:54 PM
I'm trying to get my ass back in running shape. Any of the midwestern runners up for a possible half marathon in the spring? I feel like I really need to set my next goal to get my training more consistent again.
I won't be out there, but I ran the Oshkosh (WI) 1/2 marathon in April of '07--it was a great little local race. Of course, there's probably one closer by you, too.
Welcome back.
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on October 22, 2009, 12:54:54 PM
I'm trying to get my ass back in running shape. Any of the midwestern runners up for a possible half marathon in the spring? I feel like I really need to set my next goal to get my training more consistent again.
Depending on where you are thinking, I'd possibly be down. I'm not real fast, but I'll do it with ya!
:wtu:
My wife has mentioned doing the local (St. Louis) half in April. I'm thinking that's what I'll shoot for probably, although I wouldn't mind checking out a race a few weeks before or after that one. I'll see if I can do a little researching for April/May and see what I come up with.
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on October 22, 2009, 11:23:21 PM
My wife has mentioned doing the local (St. Louis) half in April. I'm thinking that's what I'll shoot for probably, although I wouldn't mind checking out a race a few weeks before or after that one. I'll see if I can do a little researching for April/May and see what I come up with.
Sweet, yeah I'd be down to give STL a shot. I'm open to others as well, so let me know what you come up with. I could use a good goal to work towards as well. I'm running a 7 mile off road costume race in Des Moines, IA in November. Looks like crazy fun!
What's your costume?!
Quote from: ghost_2000 on October 23, 2009, 08:56:58 AM
What's your costume?!
Good question. We have a team, so we were thinking something that works together. Someone thought of getting hospital gowns, etc. and doing the whole "escaped inpatient" idea. I'll post once we have an original or "good" idea ;)
Just knocked out 4 miles this AM. Perfect weather here for running--50s w/ a light breeze, all the fall colors. Wonderful.
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on October 24, 2009, 03:38:59 PM
Just knocked out 4 miles this AM. Perfect weather here for running--50s w/ a light breeze, all the fall colors. Wonderful.
:beers:
Quote from: aphineday on October 23, 2009, 03:12:24 AM
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on October 22, 2009, 11:23:21 PM
My wife has mentioned doing the local (St. Louis) half in April. I'm thinking that's what I'll shoot for probably, although I wouldn't mind checking out a race a few weeks before or after that one. I'll see if I can do a little researching for April/May and see what I come up with.
Sweet, yeah I'd be down to give STL a shot. I'm open to others as well, so let me know what you come up with. I could use a good goal to work towards as well. I'm running a 7 mile off road costume race in Des Moines, IA in November. Looks like crazy fun!
Here's the half marathon I'm thinking about right now:
http://www.illinoismarathon.com/index.php (http://www.illinoismarathon.com/index.php)
Haven't checked out too many others yet. But I may not need to, this one sounds pretty good.
Cranked out a ten miler today for the first time in a while.
Felt strong, too.
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 26, 2009, 04:37:36 PM
Cranked out a ten miler today for the first time in a while.
Felt strong, too.
:banana: Congrats man, I'm gonna go for a 3 or 4 miler within the next hour or so. My third run after being out for about 5 days. I wrenched my back all sorts of nasty playing football. Kickass run!
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 26, 2009, 04:37:36 PM
Cranked out a ten miler today for the first time in a while.
Felt strong, too.
Nice job. I'm still quite a ways off from being back up to the 10 mile mark. That's awesome aug.
10 miles is a nice warmup.
When is the marathon August? :evil:
Quote from: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 05:38:23 PM
10 miles is a nice warmup.
When is the marathon August? :evil:
First week of May!
Got a half in March and then going full out from there!
Nice bro
My spring is shaping up similarly...
end of Feb, Grimsby Half
mid March, Around the Bay 30K
early May, Sporting Life 10K
late May, Ottawa full.
Rinse & Repeat.
Quote from: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 05:58:58 PM
Nice bro
My spring is shaping up similarly...
end of Feb, Grimsby Half
mid March, Around the Bay 30K
early May, Sporting Life 10K
late May, Ottawa full.
Rinse & Repeat.
Nice.
I wish I had a half around December, but I'll manage.
There are always 10Ks to run, but that's child's play... :wink:
If 10Ks are getting easy, time to get that time under 45 minutes...
Quote from: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 06:32:21 PM
If 10Ks are getting easy, time to get that time under 45 minutes...
I run to listen to music.
See if you can finish a 10K while listening to the Woosta 98 Mikes>Groove.
Quote from: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 06:44:38 PM
See if you can finish a 10K while listening to the Woosta 98 Mikes>Groove.
I'd prolly fall asleep.
:-( ....
Looks like the only way I'm going to get in running shape again is by getting up before 5:30am and running in the dark. If I pull it off, I'll feel like a better man for it, but boy, is it gonna hurt for the first couple of weeks. If I actually get there, you can expect to hear from me a bunch in "Today I hate..."
Quote from: sunrisevt on October 27, 2009, 11:58:04 AM
:-( ....
Looks like the only way I'm going to get in running shape again is by getting up before 5:30am and running in the dark. If I pull it off, I'll feel like a better man for it, but boy, is it gonna hurt for the first couple of weeks. If I actually get there, you can expect to hear from me a bunch in "Today I hate..."
once you get in the habit, it won't be bad.
by march, you'll get some light - at least until daylight savings comes back.
Until then, you have the beautiful northern Vt winter mornings to look forward too
:wink:
(actually, the pre-dawn winter sky is pretty cool)
:-D Yeah, but it's hard to see when your eyeballs are freezing over. Certain aspects of my home state's perfection are, well.... let's say "mysterious".
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 26, 2009, 06:33:27 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 06:32:21 PM
If 10Ks are getting easy, time to get that time under 45 minutes...
I run to listen to music.
Me too. Which is why running early in the morning, or late at night, or when I'm tired, or when I'm pissed...just isn't that hard sometimes. If you do it right, a 5 or 10-miler flies by in no time.
I'm in the minority, but I don't listen to anything while running. I've been running 17 years and just never did it. As much as I love music, I enjoy the peace of just me and my thoughts.
Nothing wrong with that. The music helps me pace myself quite a bit. I just did a 10K and didn't use an iPod for the first time. I can't say it was awesome, but it wasn't horrible.
I lurk over at the Runners World forums, iPods/MP3 players at races (whether they're allowed or not) is a HUGE issue. Apparently, some people take offense to other people listening to music while racing. Why? I never understood that.
I got my wife to stop listening to music on training runs for her safety, be it cars or other people that she wouldn't hear approaching. Doesn't bother me in races though.
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on October 29, 2009, 11:17:24 AM
I'm in the minority, but I don't listen to anything while running. I've been running 17 years and just never did it. As much as I love music, I enjoy the peace of just me and my thoughts.
I'm with you there. I only listen to music (while running, obv.) if I'm on a treadmill. Even on an indoor track, I want to hear the world around me
Anyone else watch the race this AM?
First American male to win the NYC Marathon since '82!
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?slug=ap-nycmarathon&prov=ap&type=lgns
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_keflezighi_091101_mn.jpg)
QuoteNEW YORK (AP)—Meb Keflezighi became the first U.S. man to win the New York City Marathon since 1982 on Sunday, a victory that capped an outstanding day for American distance running.
Derartu Tulu of Ethiopia captured the women's race, with two-time defending champ Paula Radcliffe falling back to fourth then grabbing her left leg in pain after finishing.
Keflezighi, the 2004 Olympic silver medalist, learned after a disappointing performance in the U.S. Olympic trials in New York two years ago he had a stress fracture in his hip. He capped the long and painful comeback with a landmark victory against a deep field for his first major marathon title.
That day in 2007 he also lost close friend Ryan Shay, who collapsed and died during the race. Keflezighi said the tears he shed after winning were for Shay.
Defending women's champion Paula Radcliffe, of Great Britain, reacts after crossing the finish line in fourth place at the New York City Marathon, Sunday, Nov. 1, 2009, in New York.
Born in Eritrea, the 34-year-old runner became a U.S. citizen in 1998. He was second in New York in 2004 and third in 2005. Wearing "USA" on the front of his jersey, Keflezighi won in 2 hours, 9 minutes, 15 seconds.
"The USA gave me all the opportunities there is in education, sports and lifestyle," he said. "To be able to represent the USA is a big thing for me."
A field of nearly 44,000 started the 40th edition of the race. The 53-degree weather was about perfect for the runners, although they were slowed by 14 mph winds.
Keflezighi pulled away from Robert Cheruiyot of Kenya in the 23rd mile to beat the four-time Boston Marathon champ by 41 seconds. Alberto Salazar had been the last American men's champion, taking three straight titles from 1980-82.
Morocco's Jaouad Gharib finished third and Ryan Hall of the U.S. was fourth on a day when six Americans were in the top 10 for the first time since 1979. The race doubled at the national men's marathon championship.
Ludmila Petrova, a 41-year-old Russian, was the runner-up for the second straight year in the women's race, while Christelle Daunay of France was third.
Radcliffe said she had tendinitis behind her knee. The world record-holder from Britain failed to win a marathon for just the third time in 11 starts.
The 37-year-old Tulu won Olympic gold medals on the track in the 10,000 meters in 1992 and 2000. Her only marathon title came in London in 2001.
She had struggled with her weight and endurance after the birth of her second daughter three years ago. But when she ran well at a half-marathon in Philadelphia on Sept. 20, she decided to enter New York.
"I did not come here necessarily expecting to win," she said, "but I did expect to be a strong competitor."
I watched. Strong showing from the American men. Maybe it's a shift back to the hey days of US-domination in the long distances.
(probably not).
I was pulling for Ryan Hall but he didn't have it today.
6 days until my first full!
Quote from: ghost_2000 on November 01, 2009, 06:27:31 PM
I watched. Strong showing from the American men. Maybe it's a shift back to the hey days of US-domination in the long distances.
(probably not).
I was pulling for Ryan Hall but he didn't have it today.
6 days until my first full!
Good luck, man.
Quote from: G. Augusto on November 01, 2009, 06:28:08 PM
Quote from: ghost_2000 on November 01, 2009, 06:27:31 PM
I watched. Strong showing from the American men. Maybe it's a shift back to the hey days of US-domination in the long distances.
(probably not).
I was pulling for Ryan Hall but he didn't have it today.
6 days until my first full!
Good luck, man.
good luck, have fun
Quote from: sunrisevt on October 30, 2009, 11:03:02 AM
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on October 29, 2009, 11:17:24 AM
I'm in the minority, but I don't listen to anything while running. I've been running 17 years and just never did it. As much as I love music, I enjoy the peace of just me and my thoughts.
I'm with you there. I only listen to music (while running, obv.) if I'm on a treadmill. Even on an indoor track, I want to hear the world around me
same here. as much as I listen to music in every other aspect of my life, I don't when I run. Part of it is a safety issue, part of it is I guess a zen thing. Want to get my own rhythm, I'll typically repeat a song in my head over and over like a mantra (once ran a marathon to Sample In a Jar)
You all have inspired me once again! I'm going for a run after work! :-D
Quote from: slslbs on November 01, 2009, 11:50:11 PM
Quote from: ghost_2000 on November 01, 2009, 06:27:31 PM
6 days until my first full!
good luck, have fun
Quote from: sunrisevt on October 30, 2009, 11:03:02 AM
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on October 29, 2009, 11:17:24 AM
I'm in the minority, but I don't listen to anything while running. I've been running 17 years and just never did it. As much as I love music, I enjoy the peace of just me and my thoughts.
I'm with you there. I only listen to music (while running, obv.) if I'm on a treadmill. Even on an indoor track, I want to hear the world around me
same here. as much as I listen to music in every other aspect of my life, I don't when I run. Part of it is a safety issue, part of it is I guess a zen thing. Want to get my own rhythm, I'll typically repeat a song in my head over and over like a mantra (once ran a marathon to Sample In a Jar)
^^^Yeah, I do that, too. I'll get a tune or jam in my head and it will work its way in to my stride and settle in for miles.
And good luck & godspeed, ghost_2000.
Thanks for the well wishes, everyone. It's 5 miles farther than I've ever run before, so I honestly have no idea what to expect. My right shin has been achey for the past 3 weeks, which is cause for concern. I'm just focused on hydration and rest right now...and a HUGE spaghetti lunch on Friday! :beers:
Bring on the dirty jokes everyone, but it needs to be said--
ghost_2000, rub that shin. Ice helps, too--I apply ice directly for a minute or so, let it warm back up, keep going like that until the ice cube's gone--but rubbing a splinty shin is the most effective, I've found. Make a cuff out of both thumbs & both index fingers, tighten around the lower leg, and drain towards the foot. And push both your thumb pads right where it aches on your shin, too.
In my experience, race-day nerves generally outweigh any other factors. If you can run 20 miles confidently, you can run 26.2. Not comfortably, necessarily--there's some will involved in the last 6 miles. But you can do it, absolutely.
you can definitely do it.
again, just stay within yourself the first 20.
don't get too discouraged over the sore shin. Ice it, stretch, etc like sunrise said.
For some reason, during the taper, and beginning of a marathon, it's pretty common to have all kinds of aches - once you get going you'll be fine.
Thanks guys. I have no doubt I can finish, it's just a matter of whether I can meet my goal time. My shin does concern me, though, and I hope it doesn't cause problems late in the race. But I'll plan on trying what sunrisevt mentioned!
:phish:
You're likely to feel your shin along with every sore muscle you've had while training, and some new ones, over the course of the whole thing. None of them should stop you.
Quote from: sunrisevt on November 03, 2009, 08:32:38 PM
Bring on the dirty jokes everyone, but it needs to be said--
ghost_2000, rub that shin. Ice helps, too--I apply ice directly for a minute or so, let it warm back up, keep going like that until the ice cube's gone--but rubbing a splinty shin is the most effective, I've found. Make a cuff out of both thumbs & both index fingers, tighten around the lower leg, and drain towards the foot. And push both your thumb pads right where it aches on your shin, too.
In my experience, race-day nerves generally outweigh any other factors. If you can run 20 miles confidently, you can run 26.2. Not comfortably, necessarily--there's some will involved in the last 6 miles. But you can do it, absolutely.
You're right on here sunrise. True shin splints are actually a muscular issue, not bone, which is why massaging it can help. There will be time for strengthening it after your race Ghost, but right now, stay focused and good luck!
so ghost -how did it go?
Birdman's daughter is on a championship track team - going to nationals in FLA. Today they put on a 5K. Great day, nice course, well organized.
results
21:18, 6:52 pace, 2nd for age
(got beat by 3 or 4 middle schoolers)
Pretty good. My shin held up, but my hips and knees were killing my after the race. That pain is gone, and now the soreness/stiffness has shifted to my thighs. I was hoping to get back out and do an easy 5 today. Argh.
This is coming out of Monument Circle in Indy at about the 3 mile marker.
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/neiloutercom/DSC00237.jpg)
This is at the finish - my actual chip time was 3:37:13! Didn't get 3:30 but I told myself all along I would take anything under 3:40. 3:30 is my next goal for a spring marathon. I kept the perfect pace until about 14, then the 3:30 pacer passed me and eventually I lost sight of them! The last 3 miles were torture....
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/neiloutercom/DSC00238.jpg)
Awesome! I better get to work if I want to stay in this week4paug marathon best time competiton!
Looking strong out there, congrats!
great work
:beers: :beers:
Nice job ghost, that's an awesome 1st marathon time! Glad everything worked out with your shin.
Nice time!
Congrats, ghost!
:beers:
Thanks everyone!
More than 48 hours later and still stiff in some places. The pain moved from my knees and hips into my thighs. Might go for a walk later this afternoon.
It won't be fun, but the faster you can get moving, the quicker some of that soreness should work out. A walk or light jog is just the right plan. oh, and +k for kicking some ass!
Quote from: slslbs on November 08, 2009, 09:15:26 PM
so ghost -how did it go?
Birdman's daughter is on a championship track team - going to nationals in FLA. Today they put on a 5K. Great day, nice course, well organized.
results
21:18, 6:52 pace, 2nd for age
(got beat by 3 or 4 middle schoolers)
Let it be noted that I also ran in this 5k, with no prior training. I just went for it. My time...a blistering 27:55. I also threw-up a bit right after the race. I am also sore as hell today.
Perhaps I'll think twice about not training before my next run.
All you fast bastards are making me feel old.
Jerks. :wink:
Quote from: birdman on November 09, 2009, 05:34:37 PM
Quote from: slslbs on November 08, 2009, 09:15:26 PM
so ghost -how did it go?
Birdman's daughter is on a championship track team - going to nationals in FLA. Today they put on a 5K. Great day, nice course, well organized.
results
21:18, 6:52 pace, 2nd for age
(got beat by 3 or 4 middle schoolers)
Let it be noted that I also ran in this 5k, with no prior training. I just went for it. My time...a blistering 27:55. I also threw-up a bit right after the race. I am also sore as hell today.
Perhaps I'll think twice about not training before my next run.
All you fast bastards are making me feel old.
Jerks. :wink:
Holy shit!
That's really fucking good!
Quote from: birdman on November 09, 2009, 05:34:37 PM
Quote from: slslbs on November 08, 2009, 09:15:26 PM
so ghost -how did it go?
Birdman's daughter is on a championship track team - going to nationals in FLA. Today they put on a 5K. Great day, nice course, well organized.
results
21:18, 6:52 pace, 2nd for age
(got beat by 3 or 4 middle schoolers)
Let it be noted that I also ran in this 5k, with no prior training. I just went for it. My time...a blistering 27:55. I also threw-up a bit right after the race. I am also sore as hell today.
Perhaps I'll think twice about not training before my next run.
All you fast bastards are making me feel old.
Jerks. :wink:
I was willing to forget that ever happened. :wink:
Did you skate last night?
Quote from: ghost_2000 on November 09, 2009, 12:47:48 PM
Thanks everyone!
More than 48 hours later and still stiff in some places. The pain moved from my knees and hips into my thighs. Might go for a walk later this afternoon.
yep, keep moving. except don't try to walk
down stairs. (you probably figured this out already)
Quote from: slslbs on November 09, 2009, 06:15:50 PM
Quote from: birdman on November 09, 2009, 05:34:37 PM
Quote from: slslbs on November 08, 2009, 09:15:26 PM
so ghost -how did it go?
Birdman's daughter is on a championship track team - going to nationals in FLA. Today they put on a 5K. Great day, nice course, well organized.
results
21:18, 6:52 pace, 2nd for age
(got beat by 3 or 4 middle schoolers)
Let it be noted that I also ran in this 5k, with no prior training. I just went for it. My time...a blistering 27:55. I also threw-up a bit right after the race. I am also sore as hell today.
Perhaps I'll think twice about not training before my next run.
All you fast bastards are making me feel old.
Jerks. :wink:
I was willing to forget that ever happened. :wink:
Did you skate last night?
Thanks for failing to mention my "really fucking good" job :lol:
Yes I did skate afterwards. The post game beers quickly made me forget about my pain however. :beers:
impressive.
beer always seems to cure what ails you :-)
So I head out to tackle a 4 miler today, pop on Miles Davis: Birth of the Blues, set my Forerunner, etc.. as I take my first step, I collapse in pain. This might be a little graphic, so feel free to stop reading now....
... okay so the pain is all in my groin, and I immediately call my dad (a doc) who calls his urologist who in turn calls me. Tells me to go to the ER asap as it could be a twisted testicle, which would require immediate surgery.
4 hours, tons of poking/proding, an ultrasound, and a shot of antibiotics later, I'm home. I have a cyst that formed as the result of the fucking H1N1 I had last week. How shitty is that? All in all, I'm so relieved that's all it is.
Quote from: aphineday on November 13, 2009, 12:19:53 AM
So I head out to tackle a 4 miler today, pop on Miles Davis: Birth of the Blues, set my Forerunner, etc.. as I take my first step, I collapse in pain. This might be a little graphic, so feel free to stop reading now....
... okay so the pain is all in my groin, and I immediately call my dad (a doc) who calls his urologist who in turn calls me. Tells me to go to the ER asap as it could be a twisted testicle, which would require immediate surgery.
4 hours, tons of poking/proding, an ultrasound, and a shot of antibiotics later, I'm home. I have a cyst that formed as the result of the fucking H1N1 I had last week. How shitty is that? All in all, I'm so relieved that's all it is.
Good news overall, glad you avoided a much bigger issue.
ouch
glad it worked out OK
Quote from: aphineday on November 13, 2009, 12:19:53 AM
So I head out to tackle a 4 miler today, pop on Miles Davis: Birth of the Blues, set my Forerunner, etc.. as I take my first step, I collapse in pain. This might be a little graphic, so feel free to stop reading now....
... okay so the pain is all in my groin, and I immediately call my dad (a doc) who calls his urologist who in turn calls me. Tells me to go to the ER asap as it could be a twisted testicle, which would require immediate surgery.
4 hours, tons of poking/proding, an ultrasound, and a shot of antibiotics later, I'm home. I have a cyst that formed as the result of the fucking H1N1 I had last week. How shitty is that? All in all, I'm so relieved that's all it is.
btw
just where did they give you that injection anyway?
Quote from: slslbs on November 13, 2009, 09:47:06 PM
Quote from: aphineday on November 13, 2009, 12:19:53 AM
So I head out to tackle a 4 miler today, pop on Miles Davis: Birth of the Blues, set my Forerunner, etc.. as I take my first step, I collapse in pain. This might be a little graphic, so feel free to stop reading now....
... okay so the pain is all in my groin, and I immediately call my dad (a doc) who calls his urologist who in turn calls me. Tells me to go to the ER asap as it could be a twisted testicle, which would require immediate surgery.
4 hours, tons of poking/proding, an ultrasound, and a shot of antibiotics later, I'm home. I have a cyst that formed as the result of the fucking H1N1 I had last week. How shitty is that? All in all, I'm so relieved that's all it is.
btw
just where did they give you that injection anyway?
HAHA! I lucked out, just in my butt. Stings pretty good, but they cut it with lidocaine so it takes the edge off.
hmmm
must've used a pretty long needle if you got a cyst in your groin
:wink:
I put in a quick 4 in the cold rain this morning. Always feel strong after pushing through on the bad weather days.
Off to my 1st 5k!
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: GBL on November 26, 2009, 08:24:51 AM
Off to my 1st 5k!
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Success! Posted time of 35:42 but since there were about 13,000 people running i didn't get to the start line till about 2 or 3 minutes after they started the clock..
Nice job - 10K next?
nice. nothing like a race Thanksgiving morning. makes the gluttony to follow seem justified
:-)
5K this AM, 21:35
Quote from: slslbs on November 26, 2009, 12:00:29 PM
nice. nothing like a race Thanksgiving morning. makes the gluttony to follow seem justified
:-)
5K this AM, 21:35
Did you get a pie?
yep - gonna send it to Austin. Figure it will be there when he gets back from his honeymoon.
did your daughter run?
Quote from: GBL on November 26, 2009, 11:24:26 AM
Quote from: GBL on November 26, 2009, 08:24:51 AM
Off to my 1st 5k!
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Success! Posted time of 35:42 but since there were about 13,000 people running i didn't get to the start line till about 2 or 3 minutes after they started the clock..
Don't they use the thing in your shoe to not start your official time until you cross the starting line?
Ran a 7mile off road race last weekend, and did a Turkey Trot 5k yesterday... 10k next up for me on Dec. 12. It's going to be ridiculously cold I'm sure.
that 7m off road race sounds like fun
Quote from: mattstick on November 26, 2009, 11:36:40 AM
Nice job - 10K next?
I'd like to run 2 or 3 more 5K's and be able to run sub 30's
easily first..
Quote from: slslbs on November 26, 2009, 01:34:42 PM
yep - gonna send it to Austin. Figure it will be there when he gets back from his honeymoon.
did your daughter run?
Dave will love that :-D
No, my daughter took the day off yesterday. Big race in Florida next weekend so they are taking it easy.
I should note that the 8-10 yo boys on my daughters team took 1st place in the regional USTFA meet last weekend and will be heading to Reno NV in a few weeks to compete for the national 8-10 championship.
Those kids can run!
Quote from: slslbs on November 26, 2009, 08:52:22 PM
that 7m off road race sounds like fun
Pretty fun, there are 8 different water crossings, and then ropes tied to help climb up the muddy hill on the other side. Kind of a cluster though with 7500 runners. People from all around though, so it was pretty nice. Great dinner of beef stew/pumpkin pie after the run though. That was a highlight. ;)
Quote from: birdman on November 27, 2009, 08:24:42 AM
Quote from: slslbs on November 26, 2009, 01:34:42 PM
yep - gonna send it to Austin. Figure it will be there when he gets back from his honeymoon.
did your daughter run?
Dave will love that :-D
No, my daughter took the day off yesterday. Big race in Florida next weekend so they are taking it easy.
I should note that the 8-10 yo boys on my daughters team took 1st place in the regional USTFA meet last weekend and will be heading to Reno NV in a few weeks to compete for the national 8-10 championship.
Those kids can run!
yep - a few kicked my butt.
Good luck in FLA
:beers:
Did a slow 3 miler a couple days ago listening to 11/28/09 Albany, NY Set II: -7>Ghost, and RIGHT when I finished and had just started my walk, "Cool it Down" came on. Pretty intense :) :banana: :phish:
Quote from: aphineday on December 05, 2009, 02:00:04 PM
Did a slow 3 miler a couple days ago listening to 11/28/09 Albany, NY Set II: -7>Ghost, and RIGHT when I finished and had just started my walk, "Cool it Down" came on. Pretty intense :) :banana: :phish:
That is an AWEFULLY slow 3 miles ;)
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on December 05, 2009, 08:02:16 PM
Quote from: aphineday on December 05, 2009, 02:00:04 PM
Did a slow 3 miler a couple days ago listening to 11/28/09 Albany, NY Set II: -7>Ghost, and RIGHT when I finished and had just started my walk, "Cool it Down" came on. Pretty intense :) :banana: :phish:
That is an AWEFULLY slow 3 miles ;)
HA! Yeah, yeah... I listened to almost all of -7 during the warm up though ;) That being said, still an AWFULLY slow three miles haha ;)
Heh. I meant "awefull" as in "full of awe-some" :wink:
didn't see too many people on the road this AM. 7 deg, -6 with wind chill
gortex shirt + polartec + running jacket
running tights + sweat pants
ski gloves, ski hat, ski gator
headlamp (just got it, great for pre-dawn or after dark running)
quite toasty - actually a bit too warm.
nice run, glad I went.
I run 10K at 5am on Tuesdays - love it, especially this time of year.
It does sound like you're wearing too much... not sure how necessary sweats are if you're wearing tights, and a gator is an extra layer you may not need.
I have a flashy light for my arm, but I usually run on the major streets so I'm pretty visible.
I cashed in a gift card from Nike yesterday, got new Gortex Pegs, gloves and the new Nike+ Sportsband!
Stoked to break out the gear and get out for a quick 4-6K after work...
Quote from: mattstick on December 18, 2009, 12:54:05 PM
I run 10K at 5am on Tuesdays - love it, especially this time of year.
It does sound like you're wearing too much... not sure how necessary sweats are if you're wearing tights, and a gator is an extra layer you may not need.
I have a flashy light for my arm, but I usually run on the major streets so I'm pretty visible.
I cashed in a gift card from Nike yesterday, got new Gortex Pegs, gloves and the new Nike+ Sportsband!
Stoked to break out the gear and get out for a quick 4-6K after work...
I'm looking for a really warm glove, as my hands get super cold. Any suggestions? Also, what is the best for keeping the feet warm? I tried some of the foot warmers, and that was a disaster (blisers like crazy duhhh, I did not think this through).
If you're working hard you shouldn't need foot warmers, but a Gortex shoe can help keep your feet dry and by extension warmer.
As far as gloves, look for something made from thinsulate.
Make sure you wear socks that go up your calf, ankle socks can make for some cold achilles.
I find the gator is good to get me started, especially on windy days, then I pull it down once I warm up.
Usually, in sub zero I need the extra layers - it probably wasn't as cold as I thougth. Or maybe I'm a little tougher now.
agree with longer sox for the cold. Personally, I haven't had a problem with foot warmers, but I only need them when it is about 0 before windchill
Keep the feet dry, wiggle your toes. maybe a real thin extra sock (like a baseball sanitary) will work. if it's too tight though, it will backfire on you and make things worse.
Thanks guys, great advice. I've been using the Saucony Hurricane 10s that I was wearing this fall, and I think that I might be getting cold feet (no pun here) because they are getting wet. Will try the Thinsulate, and the ankle socks for sure. Any good Gortex type shoes you might recommend? I have a pretty flat foot, so that can be a pain sometimes.
I wear Nike's - the Pegasus is a pretty flat shoe, but there is also a support/control shoe which they make in Gortex.
All depends on your feet - hit up your local Running Room and talk to the manager.
Quote from: aphineday on December 18, 2009, 03:59:55 PM
Thanks guys, great advice. I've been using the Saucony Hurricane 10s that I was wearing this fall, and I think that I might be getting cold feet (no pun here) because they are getting wet. Will try the Thinsulate, and the ankle socks for sure. Any good Gortex type shoes you might recommend? I have a pretty flat foot, so that can be a pain sometimes.
the best thing for flat feet are orthotics. custom ones can be expensive, but worth it over the long run. they last > 10 yrs and I couldn't run without them (verrrrrry flat feet). They make some you can buy "off the shelf" that might be good, too.
So who's up for a 2010 Nike+ Challenge?
Im joining this club.
Never been a runner before. Ive always been moderately fit from just being active and eating properly, but since turning 30 about 16 months ago I have definitely notices that my metabolism alone isnt enough to keep me fit anymore.
Im also aware that if I want to hike / bike / ski in CO in the same way that I did back at home in NC and WV, I need to be in better shape. Its just bigger, steeper, harder, and theres less oxygen in the air.
So, as my only xmas gift, I bought a pair of Asics Cumulous 10 runners and have been on the treadmill for 3 weeks. I started w/ intervals of 2 mins walk, 3 mins run for 30 mins. Now Im doing 3 mins walk, 5 mins running for 40 mins.
Im still waiting for the point where I actually "enjoy" it, but I know that as I progress it will become more enjoyable. Also when I start to see the results applied to my goals, which is to be able to enjoy my favorite outdoor recreations w/out struggling for air.
Cant wait to run my first 5k w/ my wife.
Quote from: guyforget on January 05, 2010, 05:37:47 PM
Im joining this club.
Never been a runner before. Ive always been moderately fit from just being active and eating properly, but since turning 30 about 16 months ago I have definitely notices that my metabolism alone isnt enough to keep me fit anymore.
Im also aware that if I want to hike / bike / ski in CO in the same way that I did back at home in NC and WV, I need to be in better shape. Its just bigger, steeper, harder, and theres less oxygen in the air.
So, as my only xmas gift, I bought a pair of Asics Cumulous 10 runners and have been on the treadmill for 3 weeks. I started w/ intervals of 2 mins walk, 3 mins run for 30 mins. Now Im doing 3 mins walk, 5 mins running for 40 mins.
Im still waiting for the point where I actually "enjoy" it, but I know that as I progress it will become more enjoyable. Also when I start to see the results applied to my goals, which is to be able to enjoy my favorite outdoor recreations w/out struggling for air.
Cant wait to run my first 5k w/ my wife.
Awesome allen, good to hear! It definitely takes a while to get to the point where you enjoy it, but once you get to that point it's fantastic.
hey, thanks p_i_l. yeah, i'll get there. i have my wife as motivation, too, shes been running for years while i sit at home and give myself the munchies. so itll be cool when i can keep up with her and we can run together. currently she'd leave me in the dust, huffing and puffing.
until then, i'll keep plugging away to get to the point where i find it enjoyable.
awesome!
when the weather gets better, hope you try the roads. I'm sure the scenery near where you live doesn't suck, and might make it more interesting for you.
so - I got one of those Nike chips. I plan on the first run with it Sunday. Hopefully, I'll be able to do a calibration fun first, but there might be snow on the track.
Is anyone else on line with it?
1st run with Nike + today.
couldn't calibrate it cause the track is covered in snow - the cal is a little off.
8.6mi according to the sensor, 8.3mi according to mapmyrun.com, 8.2 according to my car.
I like the instantaneous pace / distance info.
after matt posted about nike+ challenge and my wife started reading about, its all she talks about. thanks, 'stick. so, im guessing she'll be online w/ it in the next few weeks. i think shes gonna sign up for a half marathon in may, so... pressures on me to catch up.
Still use mine.
I love it.
Gotta start training real soon for the LI Marathon in May.
Allen - I still have the Nike+ Nano attachment to send out to you - been really busy and disorganized with GF moving in but I'll get it out.
Last year on Jan 28 I started training for the Ottawa Half-Marathon which is at the end of May, very doable to get that far in your training in a few months.
also, Nike+ challenge anyone?
Quote from: mattstick on January 18, 2010, 10:10:18 AM
also, Nike+ challenge anyone?
Sounds good.
420 miles by ???
I've only setup Challenges which were most KMs over a time period.
What are the other options?
Quote from: mattstick on January 18, 2010, 10:17:02 AM
I've only setup Challenges which were most KMs over a time period.
What are the other options?
Well, there could be a first to a certain distance or everyone has the goal of running that distance, which is better IMO.
I think there are speed challenges, as well.
I'd be down with a 500K or something big like that.
As for me, I am re-joining the gym Feb. 1. But it's so nice out today, I may have to get started early and go for a run. Time for me to get my fat ass in shape! Once I'm back up to speed, I'd be happy to join a Nike challenge. So maybe on the second go around?
I'm down with whatever...
Have you seen the Nike+ Mobile site? Looks nice on the iPhone.
I'm doing about 45km a week these days, I've got the Grimsby Half-Marathon on 2/28/10, then a race or two a month, culminating in the Ottawa Full Marathon at the end of May.
I got a wedding I'm training for!
Running is not the best way to get fit - hit the gym brah! Pump some iron!
MUSCLE MILK!!!!!
Quote from: G. Augusto on January 18, 2010, 10:33:16 AM
I got a wedding I'm training for!
that's more mental and obey training than physical training.
:wink:
I'm down for whatever - I'm not gonna be training for a marathon (or half) any time soon, so you will all get me on distance. should be fun anyway.
Quote from: mattstick on January 18, 2010, 10:10:18 AM
Allen - I still have the Nike+ Nano attachment to send out to you - been really busy and disorganized with GF moving in but I'll get it out.
word, i totally forgot about that, thanks bud. what else does she need, the shoe insert?
last night was the first night i didnt do run/walk cycles, ran a full half hour, 2.5 miles. not mind-blowing, but probably the longest ive ever run at one time in my whole life. of course, ive woken up before the crack of dawn to get to trailheads to climb mountains over 10/12+ mile days hiking with anywhere from 5 to 40 lbs on my back, but im sure ive never actually
run for 2.5 miles at one time. its a different feeling on the body, for sure.
Anybody ever run barefoot? Interesting article.
http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2010/127/1
also, the vibram five finger shoes seem pretty cool...
http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/products/products_footwear.cfm
I think alcoholandcoffeebeans has the 5 finger shoes.
I like the KSO Treks
http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/products/products_kso_trek_m.cfm
But those look like something that you would DEFINITELY need to try on before you buy. They look like they would need to be a perfect fit to your foot or else it would be very uncomfortable
I have a pair of the Nike "Free" shoes for when I'm at the gym, sometimes I run on the treadmill and I'm always sore in weird places (mostly below the knee) even running 20 minutes.
(http://barefootrunningshoes.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/nike-free-shoes-6.jpg)
There is just no way you could run a marathon on pavement without proper padding and support in your shoes.
Thanks for the input, Matt. I was curious about trying a pair of these as I have had problems with shin splints in the past. They're quite expensive without knowing if they actually work or not.
I think it's an interesting concept though.
i do indeed have the 5 finger shoes.... i wore them to the fenway, deer creek, and alpine shows last year. best way to be barefoot but not really.
have i used them for running? yes, but only indoors... gonna try them outside soon when the weather gets better and no socks are needed...
Finally registered for the Illinois 1/2 Marathon on May 1st even though I've been talking about it for 3 months. Had some decent runs the last couple weekends. The countdown is now officially on.
January is in the books and I logged 220.6km on the road.
Had a tough, cold 22km run yesterday, rounding into shape for the race season which starts in Grimsby ONT, 2/28.
I'm not running (bad knee) but just started biking again
Ran 7m this AM for the first time in probably 2 years. 51 minutes. Nice weather for it here (about 35*F) Still have a long way to go.
my nike+ sensor seems to have recalibrated itself. The same run it called 10.18K last week is not calling 8.44K. same exact course.
anyone else see something like this?
same run today
gave me 6.8 km
(real distance is 6 miles)
I don't get it
:?
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on February 02, 2010, 12:52:33 PM
Ran 7m this AM for the first time in probably 2 years. 51 minutes. Nice weather for it here (about 35*F) Still have a long way to go.
Dude, you have to have been running during those 2 years, though, right? 51 minutes for 7 miles is pretty fast.
He was a 5:00 miler in HS
Quote from: sunrisevt on February 06, 2010, 03:01:14 PM
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on February 02, 2010, 12:52:33 PM
Ran 7m this AM for the first time in probably 2 years. 51 minutes. Nice weather for it here (about 35*F) Still have a long way to go.
Dude, you have to have been running during those 2 years, though, right? 51 minutes for 7 miles is pretty fast.
My last big race was a half marathon in the fall of 2007. Was training well the next summer til I thought I was getting a stress fracture in my foot. Started training again last summer, but often I'm only able to run 2 times a week.
Quote from: slslbs on February 07, 2010, 12:51:42 PM
He was a 5:00 miler in HS
You're on the right track, but that was 15 years ago.
I had to do the math, that's 4:38/km clip - very fast for a training run.
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on February 08, 2010, 02:59:29 PM
Quote from: sunrisevt on February 06, 2010, 03:01:14 PM
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on February 02, 2010, 12:52:33 PM
Ran 7m this AM for the first time in probably 2 years. 51 minutes. Nice weather for it here (about 35*F) Still have a long way to go.
Dude, you have to have been running during those 2 years, though, right? 51 minutes for 7 miles is pretty fast.
My last big race was a half marathon in the fall of 2007. Was training well the next summer til I thought I was getting a stress fracture in my foot. Started training again last summer, but often I'm only able to run 2 times a week.
Quote from: slslbs on February 07, 2010, 12:51:42 PM
He was a 5:00 miler in HS
You're on the right track, but that was 15 years ago.
stress fracture would suck.
5 min mile definitely doesn't suck, no matter when you did it, even if it was for just one mile. nor does a 7:18 training pace over 7 mi (that's about my tempo pace).
very impressve
Lately I've been torn between whether I should be training on the treadmill or outside - I've come to the conclusion that a mix of both is probably the best option.
Running on the streeet you get slowed down by traffic, in the winter I worry about slipping on icy spots, and it's difficlut to hydrate as well as indoors.
Running on the treadmill is easier (no hills/wind resistance), but consequently I can push the tempo and get a better workout. But it's not "real world" conditions for race day...
Thoughts?
Quote from: mattstick on February 08, 2010, 03:53:46 PM
Lately I've been torn between whether I should be training on the treadmill or outside - I've come to the conclusion that a mix of both is probably the best option.
Running on the streeet you get slowed down by traffic, in the winter I worry about slipping on icy spots, and it's difficlut to hydrate as well as indoors.
Running on the treadmill is easier (no hills/wind resistance), but consequently I can push the tempo and get a better workout. But it's not "real world" conditions for race day...
Thoughts?
Easier for me to say here in St. Louis, but if weather allows it, outdoors anyday over treadmill. Mechanically, on a treadmill, you basically just have to keep up with the belt. The muscles that you use to push yourself forward (glut, calf, hamstring to some extent) hardly have to work. You essentially end up working hip flexors and quads.
I hate treadmills.
Only use them when I have to, like being away and having to run early in the AM and worried about personal safety.
I'd rather do a speed workout, or any workout outside, but that's just me.
On the other hand, extreme cold (put your personal definition of what that is) and icy roads can make runnning a little less fun and a little more dangerous.
And, like you said, control of pace on a treadmill is more controlled by your brain than your body. that can be both good and bad. For getting the feel of racing, the "real world" of the road, like you said, is better imo.
I guess the bottom line is do what works for you, and do what you have to do considering weather and road conditions, etc (I once did 20m on a treadmill before a marathon. sucked, but didn't have a choice).
A mediocre run is better than no run.
i suck at running outside. the cold air just freaks my lungs out. i huff and puff and never catch up with my breath, even running at the same pace that i can sustain for 30 minutes inside on the treadmill. its kinda frustrating...
i try to run "full stride" on the treadmill. its way easy to get into a lazy rhythm on it, barely lifting your legs, etc.
Does anyone have experience taking whey protein as a supplement to running and or lifting? I've just started taking three scoops (60g protein) with cold water 15 minutes after running or lifting and though I can't really see the effect yet, I can feel it. Recovery boost: check.
But I'd be interested to see if anyone had anything negative to say about it.
It's a lot of calories, about 240. An ounce of beef has about 5-6 gm protein (+ some fat, of course). So, your getting the same amount of protein as a 10oz steak. Unless you are reducing calories some other part of the day, sounds like you'll put on weight, not necessarily in muscle.
Quote from: guyforget on February 15, 2010, 02:18:02 PM
i suck at running outside. the cold air just freaks my lungs out. i huff and puff and never catch up with my breath, even running at the same pace that i can sustain for 30 minutes inside on the treadmill. its kinda frustrating...
Holy Crap, I ran outside both days this weekend, half hour run both days. Couple of miles in the cold. Hurting today. Feels good, though.
I ran in shorts for the first time in 2010 on Sunday. Legs felt good, "man parts" were cold.
currently 23 degrees (F) here in Denver, dont think Ill be doing much of anything outside.
Quote from: mattstick on February 08, 2010, 03:53:46 PM
Lately I've been torn between whether I should be training on the treadmill or outside - I've come to the conclusion that a mix of both is probably the best option.
Running on the streeet you get slowed down by traffic, in the winter I worry about slipping on icy spots, and it's difficlut to hydrate as well as indoors.
Running on the treadmill is easier (no hills/wind resistance), but consequently I can push the tempo and get a better workout. But it's not "real world" conditions for race day...
Thoughts?
I actually came in here to ask basically the same question, which was do you guys exclusively run outdoors? And how long (time-wise &/or distance-wise) do you run for on a normal day. I started doing the treadmill right after New Years and am actually sticking with it. I live in a hilly area, so in order to do any running outdoors, I'd have to drive for 10 minutes and I know taking another 20 minutes out of my day would definitely make me run less often. Plus, I like being able to watch DVR'd hockey highlights while running. Makes the time go by.
re: recent discussions on cold weather running and ice slippage etc. I would say my lady Margaret is more than a casual runner - she does halfs and tris and trail runs and such - and she swears by these:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2715/4380291776_68cb564320.jpg) (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2715/4380291776_68cb564320_b.jpg)
Get-A-Grip Advanced (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006IBV54?ie=UTF8&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&tag=straightoutta-20&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0006IBV54)
Maggie runs with these outside all through the Minnesota winter. Makes running on ice and hard pack not even a thing. And she's been doing a race a month year-round, so for her I know the ability to train in "real world conditions" is key. I've seen her pimp these to all her runner friends. Earlier in the season would have been a better time to point these out. I'll bump this next fall.
Quote from: khalpin on February 22, 2010, 04:28:09 PM
Quote from: mattstick on February 08, 2010, 03:53:46 PM
Lately I've been torn between whether I should be training on the treadmill or outside - I've come to the conclusion that a mix of both is probably the best option.
Running on the streeet you get slowed down by traffic, in the winter I worry about slipping on icy spots, and it's difficlut to hydrate as well as indoors.
Running on the treadmill is easier (no hills/wind resistance), but consequently I can push the tempo and get a better workout. But it's not "real world" conditions for race day...
Thoughts?
I actually came in here to ask basically the same question, which was do you guys exclusively run outdoors? And how long (time-wise &/or distance-wise) do you run for on a normal day. I started doing the treadmill right after New Years and am actually sticking with it. I live in a hilly area, so in order to do any running outdoors, I'd have to drive for 10 minutes and I know taking another 20 minutes out of my day would definitely make me run less often. Plus, I like being able to watch DVR'd hockey highlights while running. Makes the time go by.
the single most important thing about running is that it has to be fun. If you're having fun with what you're doing, than do it.
http://sneakernews.com/2010/02/19/nike-htm2-running-boot-low-high-preview/ (http://sneakernews.com/2010/02/19/nike-htm2-running-boot-low-high-preview/)
(http://images.sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/nike-htm2-running-boot-04.jpg)
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Well, I hit the 4 mile mark today at the gym! No, it's not where I want/need to be. But I don't think it's too bad for only being in there for a week. Psyched to be running again!
Quote from: antelope19 on February 26, 2010, 11:25:13 AM
Well, I hit the 4 mile mark today at the gym! No, it's not where I want/need to be. But I don't think it's too bad for only being in there for a week. Psyched to be running again!
I don't want to tell you what you already know, but they say you should increase your exercise load 10% per week. I don't know what kind of shape you're in, or your running history, but I do know that most people trying to run 4 miles at one time after only a week are just asking for injury. Sounds like you haven't ran in a while - you don't need to get to where you were before you stopped in a week.
just a thought
Quote from: StCarl on February 22, 2010, 04:28:29 PM
Get-A-Grip Advanced (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006IBV54?ie=UTF8&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&tag=straightoutta-20&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0006IBV54)
sweet link, wife is ready to order. march is denver's snowiest month.
I'll be running the Grimsby Half-Marathon in the snow on Sunday!
I suspect the road will be plowed, maybe even salted, but I'm still expecting wintery conditions.
:-o Hope you've got some of the Under Armour Cold gear!
All-good brah, I'm Canadian!
Quote from: guyforget on February 26, 2010, 11:58:23 AM
Quote from: StCarl on February 22, 2010, 04:28:29 PM
Get-A-Grip Advanced (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006IBV54?ie=UTF8&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&tag=straightoutta-20&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0006IBV54)
sweet link, wife is ready to order. march is denver's snowiest month.
maggie says wanted me to clarify they help somewhat in snow but they're awesome for icy sidewalks and streets
she goes on to say...
Quotei wear them everytime i run except on routes when i know there's very little ice, because there's no use wearing down the spikes unless you need that stability
but you can run on pavement with them and they don't hurt or anything. they don't work as well in snow. they do help somewhat - you just still don't have great traction on snow.
So read what you want to into that. I think she's picturing running in really deep snow or something.
yeah, but same thing happens here that happens there - some people shovel, some dont. those that dont get shoveled eventually get packed down and slick, or they go through freeze/thaw cycles and get slick. if the snow is over the shoes on the sidewalk, its a treadmill day anyway. but in our neighborhood, it doesnt take long for the sidewalks that go unshoveled to get packed in and slick, esp when the top layer gets hoary and faceted and then packed down.
i went for a jog today.
does that mean i'm in the club?
Quote from: redrum on February 26, 2010, 06:51:26 PM
i went for a jog today.
does that mean i'm in the club?
You betcha!
Only if MB joins too
:)
Threw down a 1:44 in the Grimsby Half-Marathon this morning without really pushing too hard.
I had fun, it was a small race and the first race of the season so it was a positive experience.
Next up, "Around the Bay" 30K at the end of March.
Is it bad that I want to air guitar while running on the tread mill when there are other people around?
I do it too, especially to Run Like An Antelope.
I run a lot of races, and I usually only focus on one of them for fundraising. This is not one of them, but...
I'll be running 30K on Sunday March 28 and if anyone was looking to donate some money to a good cause, feel free to donate here:
http://www.eventsonline.ca/cgi-bin/events/atbrr/pledge.pl?id=RR1216535 (http://www.eventsonline.ca/cgi-bin/events/atbrr/pledge.pl?id=RR1216535)
On Sunday March 28, 2010 I'll be participating in the 116th Around the Bay Road Race in support of St. Joseph's Healthcare Foundation. The staff at St. Joe's go the extra mile for the patients they serve each and every day. Now, it's our turn!
The thermometer on the left tracks my fundraising and I'm hoping you'll help me raise the bar all the way to the top! Together we can watch the thermometer climb...and our spirits will climb too because we know that each and every dollar raised will touch the lives of countless patients at St. Joe's!
Thanks for your support! Come out to Copps Coliseum on Sunday March 28, 2010 and watch me cross the finish line. We can celebrate going the extra mile to support St. Joseph's!
Good luck tomorrow Matt. I just knocked out 12 this AM in 81 minutes. Right on target for running sub-1:30 in my 1/2 marathon in 5 weeks. Nice to get some longer runs in and still feel strong.
nice
good luck
That's an awesome goal Play_It_Leo - you can do it!
I'm working on the 3:30 marathon, hopefully one of the 2 I run in 2010.
Today went well, I was on pace at 10km, 15km and then I started to fall off. By 20km I was 90 seconds off and the course had some killer hills over the last 1/3, when all was said in done I finished at 2:36:00 - not sure if I had more to give but I certainly didn't kill myself over last 10km in an attempt to finish any faster.
Around The Bay is one of the oldest Road Races in North America, and it finishes inside Copps Coliseum - very cool.
Next races - Harry's 8K on Saturday then 4/19 Montreal Half-Marathon where I will push to beat my PB of 1:38:56.
My wife just ran the St. Louis 1/2 Marathon this AM. Finished at 2:02 which is her personal record! I pushed the kids around St. Louis in our jogging stroller and had a blast. Got me pumped up for my 1/2 in 3 weeks.
Just did my first 1/2 marathon in Burlington, VT yesterday. 2:01:57. I was happy just finishing. My right hip felt like it was going to explode from mile 11 on. Kill Devil Falls and BDTNL helped me immensely, but Born in the U.S.A. live kicked my ass into finishing those last 2.1 miles.
:beers: to Mrs Leo and Nobes
Great job Nobes & wife of PIL, I've got the Montreal Half-Marathon on tap for next weekend.
good luck
Thanks Mattstick. And good luck to you. A 3:30 marathon sounds pretty fucking intense to me!
PS> Is it normal to not be able to walk ever again after your first half? I feel like I'm going to die. And I never felt that way during training. Then again, I never did 13 mi. in my training. 10 was the max. That extra 3 blew all my working parts out.
My friend, a long-time runner (from age 10ish to now 24), said that it took him nearly a year to completely recover, training-wise, from his first marathon, if that's any consolation.
Quote from: MiamiPhish on April 11, 2010, 08:03:26 PM
My friend, a long-time runner (from age 10ish to now 24), said that it took him nearly a year to completely recover, training-wise, from his first marathon, if that's any consolation.
How is that possible?
You should be pretty sore after your first half, I didn't go to work the next day after mine.
Tip: walk downstairs backwards.
Quote from: mattstick on April 11, 2010, 08:13:19 PM
You should be pretty sore after your first half, I didn't go to work the next day after mine.
Tip: walk downstairs backwards.
Off to Montreal after work tonight, Half-Marathon on Sunday.
Stoked to go and run in Montreal, seems like a fun city for a race.
Weather doesn't look good though, 11C & rainy. Bad for me, worse for my girlfriend who has to stand around for a couple hours.
Hoping to break 1:40 but my fitness level is way down from the last time I ran close to that. We'll see....
Quote from: G. Augusto on April 11, 2010, 08:04:22 PM
Quote from: MiamiPhish on April 11, 2010, 08:03:26 PM
My friend, a long-time runner (from age 10ish to now 24), said that it took him nearly a year to completely recover, training-wise, from his first marathon, if that's any consolation.
How is that possible?
It shouldn't be. A year makes no kind of sense.
4 weeks off, light running only (>5K), no weights and you can fully recover from a Marathon
Quote from: Nobes on April 11, 2010, 07:46:40 PM
Thanks Mattstick. And good luck to you. A 3:30 marathon sounds pretty fucking intense to me!
PS> Is it normal to not be able to walk ever again after your first half? I feel like I'm going to die. And I never felt that way during training. Then again, I never did 13 mi. in my training. 10 was the max. That extra 3 blew all my working parts out.
I hope this advice is now unnecessary, but in case it isn't... ice and advil are your best friends at first. Then, when you feel up to it, do some VERY easy working out--run WAY slower than your usual pace, or just bike to save your joints. I've found that getting everything moving and loose again goes a long way towards recovery.
edit to add:
PlayItLeo: DAMN, son! Sub-7 minutes is serious shit! Are you shooting for under 3 hours for the big one?
good luck on sunday, mattstick!
Quote from: guyforget on April 16, 2010, 01:26:45 PM
good luck on sunday, mattstick!
Hope the weather's decent. Enjoy Montreal too!
Quote from: sunrisevt on April 16, 2010, 12:21:54 PM
edit to add:
PlayItLeo: DAMN, son! Sub-7 minutes is serious shit! Are you shooting for under 3 hours for the big one?
I'm not sure if I'll do another marathon. It'll probably happen, but I was really disappointed with myself after my second one. I might give it a shot again if this half goes as well as I'm hoping. We will see.
Just checked the forecast (again) for Champaign, IL this weekend for my half. It initially looked like a chance of thunderstorms Friday night and Saturday, but now there's nearly no rain forecasted for the weekend. I'm pumped, 2 days to go!
Good luck dude! PB!
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on April 29, 2010, 12:16:59 PM
Just checked the forecast (again) for Champaign, IL this weekend for my half. It initially looked like a chance of thunderstorms Friday night and Saturday, but now there's nearly no rain forecasted for the weekend. I'm pumped, 2 days to go!
good luck
hope you have a nice, cool day.
Weather held out, started out overcast and ended sunny and kinda warm. Ran 1:29 which dropped my PR by 2 minutes. Ready to start looking for my next half. Definitely don't feel ready to try the full out again yet. It may not seem like much, but I've been helped greatly by the encouragement of you guys. Thanks!
Great time!
PB! Great time for sure.
I ran the Sporting Life 10K at marathon training pace, came in around ~ 47:30
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on May 02, 2010, 03:14:13 PM
Weather held out, started out overcast and ended sunny and kinda warm. Ran 1:29 which dropped my PR by 2 minutes. Ready to start looking for my next half. Definitely don't feel ready to try the full out again yet. It may not seem like much, but I've been helped greatly by the encouragement of you guys. Thanks!
nice
:beers:
Not quite up to the calibre of most of you runners here but I have gotten back into it this Spring. Started around 3 - 4 km and am now pushing 6 km. Hope to get up to 10 km or so by Summer.
wow, never even poked my head in here before. lots of cool stuff in here. well to shorten a long story, I did my first jog/run in years. I dont even know when it was really. But since my decision in may to stop smoking cigarettes i thought it only fitting to get back into something i loved before smoking. There is a nice park by me thats around 5mi(8k), and for my first crack i only did half of it in about 20 min. nothing incredible but I def feel like ill be seeing you all in here more frequently. ya know what after looking i didnt really shorten at all, oh well.
Atta boy JJ, same here, felt the need to replace that old habit with something healthy. As soon as the weather got nice, it was time.
Quote from: JustJezmund on May 06, 2010, 07:06:02 PM
wow, never even poked my head in here before. lots of cool stuff in here. well to shorten a long story, I did my first jog/run in years. I dont even know when it was really. But since my decision in may to stop smoking cigarettes i thought it only fitting to get back into something i loved before smoking. There is a nice park by me thats around 5mi(8k), and for my first crack i only did half of it in about 20 min. nothing incredible but I def feel like ill be seeing you all in here more frequently. ya know what after looking i didnt really shorten at all, oh well.
Quote from: Phishy69 on May 06, 2010, 07:11:35 PM
Atta boy JJ, same here, felt the need to replace that old habit with something healthy. As soon as the weather got nice, it was time.
awesome
:beers:
(after the run, of course :) )
Quote from: JustJezmund on May 06, 2010, 07:06:02 PM
wow, never even poked my head in here before. lots of cool stuff in here. well to shorten a long story, I did my first jog/run in years. I dont even know when it was really. But since my decision in may to stop smoking cigarettes i thought it only fitting to get back into something i loved before smoking. There is a nice park by me thats around 5mi(8k), and for my first crack i only did half of it in about 20 min. nothing incredible but I def feel like ill be seeing you all in here more frequently. ya know what after looking i didnt really shorten at all, oh well.
Brah, when I finally caught the running bug, I was able to go 4 minutes before I literally thought I was gonna die on someone's lawn.
Set modest weekly goals and modest daily goals to keep you motivated.
First 2 weeks are gonna be shitty.
Push through and you might just find running to be part of the rest of your life.
Quote from: G. Augusto on May 06, 2010, 07:20:56 PM
Quote from: JustJezmund on May 06, 2010, 07:06:02 PM
wow, never even poked my head in here before. lots of cool stuff in here. well to shorten a long story, I did my first jog/run in years. I dont even know when it was really. But since my decision in may to stop smoking cigarettes i thought it only fitting to get back into something i loved before smoking. There is a nice park by me thats around 5mi(8k), and for my first crack i only did half of it in about 20 min. nothing incredible but I def feel like ill be seeing you all in here more frequently. ya know what after looking i didnt really shorten at all, oh well.
Brah, when I finally caught the running bug, I was able to go 4 minutes before I literally thought I was gonna die on someone's lawn.
Set modest weekly goals and modest daily goals to keep you motivated.
First 2 weeks are gonna be shitty.
Push through and you might just find running to be part of the rest of your life.
THIS.
Also, sub-10 minute miles for your first run in years is nothing to sneer at.
It's been a bitch making the time since our daughter was born, but we joined a gym recently and the cardio work, coupled with some great weather, has got me itching to get out on the road & trails again.
I'm getting closer and closer to motivating myself... my father has been a runner his whole life. I need shoes
Quote from: blatboom on May 06, 2010, 10:18:26 PM
I need shoes
Yeah, me too, the skate sneaks just don't cut it :roll:
Quote from: Phishy69 on May 06, 2010, 11:38:26 PM
Quote from: blatboom on May 06, 2010, 10:18:26 PM
I need shoes
Yeah, me too, the skate sneaks just don't cut it :roll:
no they dont. i need my own shoes too. i stole my dads Asics last night, they worked. Anyone have some advice on some legit shoes?
Go to your local Running Room, bring some older worn-in shoes for reference, and buy whatever they recommend.
Glad to hear you guys are all getting the running itch. It's always rough getting yourself going. Sticking it out through the first 2-4 weeks is the toughest part. Hopefully the weather stays good enough to get you guys into a solid routine. And don't worry about time or pace at this point. Any running is better than none.
On shoes, my feet have always been partial to the Asics 2000 series, but they definitely don't work for everybody. Matt's right, head to a running shoe store (Fleet Feet is the place to go in St. Louis, The Running Spot is it in Cincinnati and I'm sure every town has its own). They should be able to get you in a pair of shoes that fits you well.
I may be working on a presentation for my boss for injury prevention in runners. If I can get it put together, I'll share it with you guys too.
well ive been on a steady 3mi loop about every other day. Today was the first time i really felt myself being able to do most of it without feeling like death. It feels like good stuff is on the horizon.
my wife ran the colfax half marathon here in denver, co yesterday.
got off to a slow start and thinks she could have been closer to her goal 2:00:00 finish time, but she managed to come in faster than the field average at 2:13. we were a little late getting to city park for the start, so she got behind a couple large groups of slower racers. i think she could have pushed it harder at the end but it was her first half and understandably she wanted to play it conservatively.
im very proud of her!
1: city park, denver, co
2: mile 6
3: finish!
awesome
:beers:
good luck this weekend, mattstick! im sure you'll kick ass. 3:45 or bust!
Thanks buddy! While I'm getting a little concerned about the heat, and generally nervous about the race - I'm ready for it!
Quote from: guyforget on May 28, 2010, 12:48:32 PM
good luck this weekend, mattstick!
Hope ya get some good weather for it.
good luck
hope it stays cool
if it's hot, don't push it (unfortunately, I have personal experience of thinking the heat wouldn't get to me in a marathon. it does)
The race starts at 7, so I don't think heat will be an issue until the last hour or so...
One fun part about this run is that my girlfriend Heather is running the 1/2 marathon, which starts at 9 - 2 hours later - and a great deal of it is along the same course as the marathon. She's running the 1/2 in 2 hours, and if I run the full in 3:45 I will be passing her somewhere on the course.
Quote from: mattstick on May 28, 2010, 02:15:14 PM
The race starts at 7, so I don't think heat will be an issue until the last hour or so...
One fun part about this run is that my girlfriend Heather is running the 1/2 marathon, which starts at 9 - 2 hours later - and a great deal of it is along the same course as the marathon. She's running the 1/2 in 2 hours, and if I run the full in 3:45 I will be passing her somewhere on the course.
Holly says to tell Heather to find the RunningSkirts table, apparently theyll be vending in Ottawa. Holly LOVES her RunningSkirts (green one seen above in my photos), just make sure to get the ones w/ the compression shorts underneath.
just celebrated my first year of running with my 2nd 12k, the "Rhody Run." Felt much much better than last year and finished under my 1 hour goal!
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on May 02, 2010, 03:14:13 PM
Weather held out, started out overcast and ended sunny and kinda warm. Ran 1:29 which dropped my PR by 2 minutes. Ready to start looking for my next half. Definitely don't feel ready to try the full out again yet. It may not seem like much, but I've been helped greatly by the encouragement of you guys. Thanks!
Dude I just saw this. You're in shooting distance of a ~3 hour marathon, which earns you a big HOLY SHIT from this kid.
yes, I am most jealous
Congrats whatapiper. The first year's the toughest, congrats.
Matt, can't wait to hear how the weekend went for you!
Not good. I finished, but it was tough.
Let us never speak of the 2010 Ottawa Marathon again.
doesn't matter
you finished.
congrats
Thanks. It's just disappointing to train so hard for so long, then go out there and be exhausted at 24km. My split at the 1/2 was perfect for pace and I didn't feel like I went out too quickly, but things got really tough over the second half.
I'm still trying to figure out what went wrong, whether it was just a bad day, maybe I didn't train properly, not sure.
In one way I feel like dealing with the exhaustion and pushing through it was more of an achievement than the first marathon I did.
Quote from: mattstick on May 31, 2010, 12:22:19 PM
then go out there and be exhausted at 24km.
This line blows me away, I can't imagine making it to 24 km. Just the fact that you are able to pull these runs off is a feat in itself. Isn't this your 1st one of the season? I wouldn't be too hard on yourself, you're bound to get better as the season wears on.
Been there - it sucks
You trained your ass of for 4 - 6 months and then have a shitty day.
See if there is something you can learn from it, if not forget about it.
you can still say you have run 2 marathons, which is 2 more than most people think of trying.
Once I fought my way to 31km I started to think "11 more km and you'll have finished your second marathon". I wasn't running fast or anywhere close to my pace but the "just do it" attitude got me through.
way to go matt, sometimes its just not your day, but as long as you dont give up and live to fight another day, you win.
how'd heather do?
Quote from: slslbs on May 31, 2010, 12:29:01 PM
Been there - it sucks
You trained your ass of for 4 - 6 months and then have a shitty day.
See if there is something you can learn from it, if not forget about it.
I've used races I've felt like that about as motivation for the next time around. Glad you were able to push through feeling shitty and still finish up.
Quote from: guyforget on May 31, 2010, 01:58:19 PM
how'd heather do?
Heather had a rough day too - went out too fast and finished up slow.
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on June 01, 2010, 09:09:52 AM
I've used races I've felt like that about as motivation for the next time around. Glad you were able to push through feeling shitty and still finish up.
I'm already there - after marathon #1 I couldn't even think about running another marathon, this time out I'm going to rest a couple weeks then get right back at it.
Well, I did it. I signed up for the Annapolis 10 Miler. We're doing it as an office(there are only 4 of us) which should certainly be entertaining to say the least. First training session was this morning. 5 miles! The run isn't until the end of August, but this'll be the farthest I've ever run before(in a race anyway).
10 miles is perfect - a Half-Marathon starts to get tough around 10 miles. Good luck!
Quote from: mattstick on June 10, 2010, 10:37:12 AM
10 miles is perfect - a Half-Marathon starts to get tough around 10 miles. Good luck!
Thanks man. I'm def. gonna need it. :-)
Quote from: antelope19 on June 10, 2010, 10:35:00 AM
Well, I did it. I signed up for the Annapolis 10 Miler. We're doing it as an office(there are only 4 of us) which should certainly be entertaining to say the least. First training session was this morning. 5 miles! The run isn't until the end of August, but this'll be the farthest I've ever run before(in a race anyway).
Good luck Jon! Hope your training goes well.
Been reading this thread a lot today. Downloaded the Couch-to-5K running plan that has been suggsted here which looks promising.
I started running this week just started small. Get up a few minutes early and jog/walk about 1 mile. I feel better already. Came to this thread looking for advise on getting started and it has delivered.
Thanks for all of the tips on getting started and hopefully I can make this part of a good morning regiment.
Oh and good luck there Johnny!
Congrats on getting started Uncle Eb. May be helpful to sign up for a 5K that's a couple months away too. Can help keep motivation up on rough mornings if you've got something definite to shoot for.
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on June 10, 2010, 01:35:26 PM
Congrats on getting started Uncle Eb. May be helpful to sign up for a 5K that's a couple months away too. Can help keep motivation up on rough mornings if you've got something definite to shoot for.
QFT
I know myself, and this 10 miler is exactly what I need to keep my ass motivated.
Wife got me jogging tonight.
That's quite a trick.
I must say I'm impressed.
The paug is on a roll. Good luck to all that just are getting started. Have patience, have fun.
Read the Penguin Chronicles
We'll have to enter as a team for the next Runaway Jim 5K
Another 6 miles this morning and doing it consistently! We're a month and a half away from the 10 miler. I think I'm right on target so far.
Run for the roses!
I'm running my 3rd marathon at the end of September, really focusing on strength training and not running for now.
I know I can run that far, so I'm going to improve my overall fitness level in July/August, then towards the end of August really ramp it up with some big runs so I don't get burnt out.
Quote from: antelope19 on July 16, 2010, 09:23:02 AM
Another 6 miles this morning and doing it consistently! We're a month and a half away from the 10 miler. I think I'm right on target so far.
Good work lope!!!
I'm still on week 1 of the Couch-to-5K method after a short hiatus. Feels great!
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on July 16, 2010, 09:58:06 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 16, 2010, 09:23:02 AM
Another 6 miles this morning and doing it consistently! We're a month and a half away from the 10 miler. I think I'm right on target so far.
Good work lope!!!
I'm still on week 1 of the Couch-to-5K method after a short hiatus. Feels great!
Nice work!
couch-to-5k, lol :-D
Quote from: antelope19 on July 16, 2010, 10:02:33 AM
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on July 16, 2010, 09:58:06 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 16, 2010, 09:23:02 AM
Another 6 miles this morning and doing it consistently! We're a month and a half away from the 10 miler. I think I'm right on target so far.
Good work lope!!!
I'm still on week 1 of the Couch-to-5K method after a short hiatus. Feels great!
Nice work!
couch-to-5k, lol :-D
Yeah and I like the couch....A LOT! :-D
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on July 16, 2010, 10:03:45 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 16, 2010, 10:02:33 AM
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on July 16, 2010, 09:58:06 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 16, 2010, 09:23:02 AM
Another 6 miles this morning and doing it consistently! We're a month and a half away from the 10 miler. I think I'm right on target so far.
Good work lope!!!
I'm still on week 1 of the Couch-to-5K method after a short hiatus. Feels great!
Nice work!
couch-to-5k, lol :-D
Yeah and I like the couch....A LOT! :-D
Believe me, I know. having someone else to run with, and keep you accountable has helped out ALOT
Nice job 'lope, can't wait to hear how your 10 miler goes. Keep up the great work.
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on July 16, 2010, 02:08:55 PM
Nice job 'lope, can't wait to hear how your 10 miler goes. Keep up the great work.
yea, keep it up!!!
On the second week of the couch to 5K. Getting up this morning was tough, but after the run, worth it. I feel so much better afterwards. I think once I relaly get set on the routine it will be great. I can't wait to get further along in the program so I'm not doing so much run/walk and more run. I think that accomplishment feeling is what I really want to get at!
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on July 19, 2010, 09:52:06 AM
On the second week of the couch to 5K. Getting up this morning was tough, but after the run, worth it. I feel so much better afterwards. I think once I relaly get set on the routine it will be great. I can't wait to get further along in the program so I'm not doing so much run/walk and more run. I think that accomplishment feeling is what I really want to get at!
Monday/Tuesday mornings are definitely tougher depending on how much you "enjoyed" the weekend. :-D
About 4.5 miles this morning. Started out cool & overcast. Ended with me pushing the kids in the stroller through the rain. Oops. At least they have a canopy over the stroller.
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on July 20, 2010, 04:17:05 PM
About 4.5 miles this morning. Started out cool & overcast. Ended with me pushing the kids in the stroller through the rain. Oops. At least they have a canopy over the stroller.
:-D
Glad you're getting out there!
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on July 20, 2010, 04:17:05 PM
About 4.5 miles this morning. Started out cool & overcast. Ended with me pushing the kids in the stroller through the rain. Oops. At least they have a canopy over the stroller.
LOL. I remember going out on a run thinking I could beat the thunderstorm.
got home about 10 lbs heavier from the extra weight of rainwater in my clothes and shoes. not to mention that I couldn't see out of my glasses.
I gotta get one of those canopies
Quote from: slslbs on July 21, 2010, 11:30:40 PM
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on July 20, 2010, 04:17:05 PM
About 4.5 miles this morning. Started out cool & overcast. Ended with me pushing the kids in the stroller through the rain. Oops. At least they have a canopy over the stroller.
LOL. I remember going out on a run thinking I could beat the thunderstorm.
got home about 10 lbs heavier from the extra weight of rainwater in my clothes and shoes. not to mention that I couldn't see out of my glasses.
I gotta get one of those canopies
Not just a canopy, somebody to push you while you're covered in it. good luck!
Finishing a long run in the rain is definitely a notch on any runners belt.
Completed another run this morning. I am on Week 1 of the Couch to 5K plan. Well I did Week 1 for 2 weeks.
Also, took my dog Jiboo with me this morning. He did suprisingly well. I figured he would have been tired afterwards...nope, still running all over the house this morning. BTW, he's 6 years old!
Quote from: mattstick on July 22, 2010, 07:15:49 AM
Finishing a long run in the rain is definitely a notch on any runners belt.
True story. The Dam to Dam 20K in Iowa this year was absolute downpour the first hour. Finishing absolutely drenched just felt absolutely amazing. I'm finally back on the road again after a month off. I hurt my back something nasty, and today was the first run... only did 2 miles, but we'll see how the back holds up.
So what shoes does everyone wear. It probably wouldn't be a good idea to get a new pair so close to the race date, but I've logged some serious miles and will be due for a new pair very soon.
You only need one or two runs in new shoes before a race.
I like Asics & Nike but you should get a pro to look at your feet and your old shoes.
Quote from: mattstick on July 29, 2010, 04:39:37 PM
You only need one or two runs in new shoes before a race.
I like Asics & Nike but you should get a pro to look at your feet and your old shoes.
That's an interesting thought. I might have to do that. Thanks.
agreed
don't buy shoes by the brand. expert reviews are meaningless unless your foot, weight, and running style are exactly like the reviewer.
go to a good running shop and get what feels right.
Quote from: slslbs on July 31, 2010, 11:36:34 PM
agreed
don't buy shoes by the brand. expert reviews are meaningless unless your foot, weight, and running style are exactly like the reviewer.
go to a good running shop and get what feels right.
Agreed. In general, going with shoes that are from a company that focuses mainly on running shoes has been my preference. Asics are my usual, Saucony does pretty well also. But to find the style that fits you best, you definitely need the assistance of a pro.
Moving a little slow today. :-D
Ran the 10 miler yesterday. Did it in just over 1 hour and 27 minutes! Absolutely smashed my goal time and can't honestly believe I was able to pull that time off! I am pretty pumped about it and can't wait for the half marathon I signed up for in Baltimore in mid-October. Sore as hell today.
It was definitely a learning experience being my first race, but this seems like something I can get into for a long time.
Quote from: antelope19 on August 30, 2010, 09:40:57 AM
Moving a little slow today. :-D
Ran the 10 miler yesterday. Did it in just over 1 hour and 27 minutes! Absolutely smashed my goal time and can't honestly believe I was able to pull that time off! I am pretty pumped about it and can't wait for the half marathon I signed up for in Baltimore in mid-October. Sore as hell today.
It was definitely a learning experience being my first race, but this seems like something I can get into for a long time.
Nice work!!!!
Nice job dude!
If you can do a Ten-Miler in under 1:30 you can destroy the half marathon.
wtg, 'lope!
question for all you runners.... i'm back at it again after about a 3 month hiatus, and my late evenings are a little more free than day time.... night running vs. morning running?
what say you?
Doesn't really matter, some people don't run at night because it's tough to get to sleep.
Also, you'll have more energy (generally) in the morning.
I'd take it slow and do a weeks worth of morning runs, and a weeks worth of evening runs then see which you prefer.
For me, I have 27 days until my next marathon - I've done very little training, kinda fucked right now.
Quote from: mattstick on August 30, 2010, 12:34:59 PM
Doesn't really matter, some people don't run at night because it's tough to get to sleep.
Also, you'll have more energy (generally) in the morning.
I'd take it slow and do a weeks worth of morning runs, and a weeks worth of evening runs then see which you prefer.
For me, I have 27 days until my next marathon - I've done very little training, kinda fucked right now.
Agreed. It's really personal preference. I prefer the mornings for a number of reasons, but the main being that it's not nearly as hot.
PS- the only thing missing from yesterday's race was a "FLUFFHEAD" sign. :|
:-D
good work, "lope
as for night vs morning - I find I'm much looser in afternoons, but it does me no good because the only time I have to run is in the AM. So, I get up early - it's nice, peaceful, and cool in the summer (and dark in the winter)
bottom line - whatever works
we are underway, live from the denver rock & roll marathon where my wife is running her first full.
go, holly, go!
Run Holly Run!
Heather and I are cheering her on...
Good luck, Mrs GF
:beers:
just past 19.7mi @ 3:43!
:-o
She looks pretty happy Guy, can we assume she did pretty well for her first full marathon.
I've just been getting back on track the last couple of weeks getting out every night after work.
Love my new sneaks.
Big congrats to Holly on her first full!
I ran my first half this weekend up in Baltimore. I am sore as hell, but managed to finish in just under 2 hours! I was super psyched! My official time was 1:59:47!!!!!!
I officially hate hills. :-D
Great pic of Holly, Allen. Congrats to both of you =)
@antelope - nice dude, just under the wire for 2 hours!
My girlfriend & I ran the Toronto Zoo 10K together on the weekend, I cruised at about 70%, checked out the animals and enjoyed the nice fall weather. I'm gonna ramp up the training in the winter months and push for a sub-40min 10K in the spring.
way to go, 'lope. denver is flat, so she didnt have to worry about hills too much, just a small gradual incline. but, she started running in west virginia, so, we know hills.
4:59:26 i think was her official finish time. her goal was 4:40 so she was a little slow, but she still finished strong and is feeling pretty good today.
awesome!
congrats
Signed up for another 10 miler in Va Beach in early decmber. :-D
Quote from: antelope19 on October 20, 2010, 01:41:18 PM
Signed up for another 10 miler in Va Beach in early decmber. :-D
Bring a helmet someone(s) may pelt you with beer cans.
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on October 20, 2010, 02:04:31 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 20, 2010, 01:41:18 PM
Signed up for another 10 miler in Va Beach in early decmber. :-D
Bring a helmet someone(s) may pelt you with beer cans.
Rather than being a drunk, why don't you run with us? :-D
2000km kids...
Holy shit Matt, nice job. :clap:
You basically ran from Toronto to Florida.
Or as Nike pointed out, from Madrid to Rome.
Quote from: mattstick on November 24, 2010, 10:29:49 AM
Or as Nike pointed out, from Madrid to Rome.
even better
Feaster 5 this AM
21:46
lack of miles + my age is starting to show
Quote from: slslbs on November 25, 2010, 12:23:45 PM
Feaster 5 this AM
21:46
lack of miles + my age is starting to show
Duder!
I'd be more than thrilled throwing down 7 min at your decrepit-like age! :wink:
Great time - congrats!
Quote from: slslbs on November 25, 2010, 12:23:45 PM
Feaster 5 this AM
21:46
lack of miles + my age is starting to show
Nice job!
What kind of pie did you get?
thanks
I still haven't gotten used to the fact that I need to re-adjust
"you know that you're over the hill when your mind makes a promise that your body can't fill"
Quote from: birdman on November 25, 2010, 02:01:50 PM
Quote from: slslbs on November 25, 2010, 12:23:45 PM
Feaster 5 this AM
21:46
lack of miles + my age is starting to show
Nice job!
What kind of pie did you get?
apple.
best part is the T shirt - long sleeve, "tech fabric" instead of cotton.
I was looking for you in case your daughter was running. Hard to find anyone with 10,000 racers + spectators
Ran the first annual Surf-n-Santa 10 miler over the weekend in Va Beach.
For only running twice since the half marathon, my time of 1:38 ain't too shabby. I was thrilled with it, honestly. It was brutally cold and windy, and I walked more of this race than any of the others this year.
Quote from: antelope19 on December 06, 2010, 01:26:48 PM
Ran the first annual Surf-n-Santa 10 miler over the weekend in Va Beach.
For only running twice since the half marathon, my time of 1:38 ain't too shabby. I was thrilled with it, honestly. It was brutally cold and windy, and I walked more of this race than any of the others this year.
Cold and windy for sure! Don't forget to mention you got a medal.
It doubles as a bottle opener! :-D
One of the sponsors of the race was Sam Adams.
time to bump this one back up.
got a gortex running jacket this fall at a pre-season blow out. I was very happy I had it this week.
Finally getting back into the swing of things. Been running at the gym though as the weather has been a little unaccommodating as of late.
Started training for the LI full in May.
Also put in for the NYC lottery again.
Nike challenge anyone?
Quote from: mattstick on January 07, 2011, 08:38:56 PM
Nike challenge anyone?
Related note...
Do you always get FB cheers with your GPS?
I've lost two runs so far and have yet to receive a cheer mid run.
Nike+ GPS was killing my data usage, so I switched back to the chip.
Plus I'm in full-on training mode so lots of indoor treadmill sprints these days.
The hell?
I'm working on a sub-40 10K, end of May.
Lots of speedwork and yoga.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12375646 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12375646)
A marathon every day for a year, no biggie.
Quote from: mattstick on February 07, 2011, 08:56:32 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12375646 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12375646)
A marathon every day for a year, no biggie.
That is insane, not to mention this part:
QuoteEngels suffered from asthma as a child and had been told by doctors to avoid sport.
well in the past month ive been doing 5k pretty much daily (and as of this week started breaking 4mi easy) I would love to make an announcement.
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQUDodN_hYFVjxn0oag8m4lAXfjbiH1WLiwP6KW4TD9Q1RaPqwx)
IM BACK BABY, IM BACK!!!!!!!
Congrats?!
I recently beat my Treadmill 10K personal best.
the 1st nike+ I had stopped working after about a month. the second one I had was grossly inaccurate (probably the 1st was too). I tried to calibrate it on a track - ran 12 x 400 between 2:00 and 2:05 per lap - it said the run was not usable for calibration. returned it, never to be purchased again.
In the summer they are releasing a GPS Nike+ Sports band - I have my iPhone calibrated to 10K on the treadmill and when I run outside my Sportband is calibrated to MapMyRun.com distances, so things are pretty accurate I think.
I'll think I'lll just stick to the old fashioned way and guestimate. When I really need to know pace, I can go to the track down the block.
I guess a major advantage is being able to figure out pace during a race before the end of mile 1 - (how far apart do they separate the distance markers in Canada during races?), but I'll survive.
good luck on that 10K. Sub 40 is pretty freakin fast
Distance markers are in kilometers.
I figure for that 10K I won't even try to keep a pace, I'll just go as hard as I can for 40 minutes and hope it's enough.
Good luck in that.
Quote from: mattstick on March 10, 2011, 08:00:54 PM
Distance markers are in kilometers.
I figure for that 10K I won't even try to keep a pace, I'll just go as hard as I can for 40 minutes and hope it's enough.
I figured that - is every km marked?
Yes, every km is marked - same goes for the marathons and half-marathons.
It's the first Sunday in May so I have about 6 weeks of training still. I'm still working on the perfect playlist for the run which ideally has the climax of Antelope at around 39 minutes.
good choice
I don't run with my ipod, but whenever I race, Antelope is always playing in the car on the way
Well I haven't really made this whole thing too personal, but thought I'd give my back story here for anyone that cares.
I've always been a big dude. In high school I played football, but then really didn't do too much at all, and just got really fat and lazy. It sucks, but it's what I did. I would eat just to eat. Not even emotional eating, or maybe it was? Who knows. I ballooned up to 330 lbs at one point in my life. The biggest I've ever been. It was horrible, and I decided to cut.
I decided I wanted to be a runner. I couldn't even run for a minute straight when I started. It was horrible. I tried the "Couch to 5k" plan. Kind of worked, kind of didn't. I'll never forget the day I decided... I'm just going to try running for 5 minutes straight, and how I felt when I completed this. It was on from this time forward. I cut down to 223lbs (my skinniest ever) and ran the Dam to Dam 20k in Des Moines Iowa in June of 2009 for the first time in my life. I ran 12.4 miles without stopping. I didn't run it fast, and I probably never will, but I finished. I ran it again in 2010, then really hurt my back early in the summer.
I lost my focus, and my runs became "a couple a week" to "once a week" to "Once every 2". It was horrible. I used the back pain as an excuse, and let myself gain about 40lbs back. So @260lbs I decided "this isn't happening again", and started. Slow, but I got back on the wagon. I'm finally running 5-6 days a week again, and definitely on top of hitting the gym as well. Already cut 16lbs, and working on the rest by June.
So, even though I'm not nearly as fast as most of you, it feels good to be back. :) (or at least on my way)
:clap:
the most important thing is being out there and doing it
Glad you're back on the road to being healthy John. I've been stuck not running a whole lot, just a day or 2 a week right now since baby #3 was born. Ran a couple 5K's last fall that went much better than I expected, but I've gone downhill since then. Once my youngest kiddo can start hanging out at the YMCA I can get back out and start putting in more miles. I was thinking about doing the 1/2 in St. Louis (April), but the last 2 months have shot that plan and I'm glad I hadn't signed up too far in advance. It's looking like my next half will be sometime this fall, and if it goes well, I'll consider trying out a full again. Anybody read "Born To Run"? I'm not quite finished with it yet, but it's changed my perspective as a runner & healthcare professional. Definitely recommend it.
for those of you in the Boston Area, this is always a good time.
register soon, it sells out.
http://www.baevents.com/garcia/index.html
Jerry Garcia Memoria Road Race
4.2 m
party after with bbq chicken, Harpoon on Tap, and Playin' Dead
(all included in race fee)
Quote from: slslbs on April 02, 2011, 11:33:29 AM
for those of you in the Boston Area, this is always a good time.
register soon, it sells out.
http://www.baevents.com/garcia/index.html
Jerry Garcia Memoria Road Race
4.2 m
party after with bbq chicken, Harpoon on Tap, and Playin' Dead
(all included in race fee)
I'll be registering again this year.
also a warning, these races have been selling out by May the last couple of years.
yea, last year I got shut out. ran it for about 4 years or so before that
mailed my registration in today.
I'll look for you when the time comes
!LAST MINUTE NOTICE!
--> 'Paug runners and volunteers get free water and bragging rights!
Otter Creek Mud Run
Celebrate Vermont's 5th season--mud. Run 5k on unmaintained seasonal walking trails this April.
Next Sunday, April 10th, 2011. Registration, start and finish at Middlebury Natural Foods Co-op (outside), Middlebury, VT. [PM sunrisevt :hereitisyousentimentalbastard ]
Proceeds benefit Otter Creek Child Center.
So my training was going really well, then I took a week off when we went to Europe... went for 2 runs, then got sick and missed ~ 10 days.
I'm feeling like I lost a few steps over the past 3 weeks, but I have about a month to push really hard and get to where I need to be for this 10K on the first Sunday in May.
I took about a month off as I was getting ready to come to Ethiopia and then hadn't run at all since I got here. I decided to get out again and with the altitude, polution and dust, I just about killed myself. I went out again today and slowed down my pace considerably with much better results.
hope your not trying to keep up with the locals
Quote from: slslbs on April 04, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
hope your not trying to keep up with the locals
You referring to Bikila Abebe?
(http://www.trendyshoeshop.com/images/barefoot_1960_olympics.jpg)
:-D
Quote from: sunrisevt on April 03, 2011, 09:00:55 PM
!LAST MINUTE NOTICE!
--> 'Paug runners and volunteers get free water and bragging rights!
Otter Creek Mud Run
Celebrate Vermont's 5th season--mud. Run 5k on unmaintained seasonal walking trails this April.
Next Sunday, April 10th, 2011. Registration, start and finish at Middlebury Natural Foods Co-op (outside), Middlebury, VT. [PM sunrisevt :hereitisyousentimentalbastard ]
Proceeds benefit Otter Creek Child Center.
its too bad its 6hrs away. I would love this. but speaking of bragging i feel like it, the other day I did my first non stop 6mi (10k) loop in just under 50min. Im pretty impressed with myself.
:clap: You should be, Chris.
BOOM! Level Purple! 2500km on Nike+
Quote from: mattstick on April 15, 2011, 01:04:24 PM
BOOM! Level Purple! 2500km on Nike+
Damn! And how long did that take ya?
I started on Nike+ sometime in late 2008 and I used it for most of the Spring that year - then while training for my first marathon I didn't use it all that much.
When they introduced the Sportsband late in '09 I started up again, and have been pretty consistant using it in 2010/2011.
Nice :beers:
Hope our runners are still going strong despite Summer's arrival (for some of us anyway.) I'm about to go on a 5-miler or so along the Hawthorne Trail here in Gainesville.
http://www.dep.state.fl.us/gwt/guide/regions/north/trails/gainesville_hawth.htm
I have pretty bad knees, but would like to ease back into running again. Any suggestions for getting back into running? I have been cycling (30 min) instead and then running for like 10-15 minutes afterwards, but don't know if that's a good routine. My goal is to at least run one 5k with ease this summer.
Quote from: iamhydroJen on May 02, 2011, 01:48:38 PM
I have pretty bad knees, but would like to ease back into running again. Any suggestions for getting back into running? I have been cycling (30 min) instead and then running for like 10-15 minutes afterwards, but don't know if that's a good routine. My goal is to at least run one 5k with ease this summer.
Biking to warm up is a good idea, that's how I got back into it about a month and a half ago. My problem is my hip flexors, but I'm in the same boat (basically if I don't warm up on the bike and then stretch, I'm done after about one mile) and the stationary bike has been the most convenient and effective way for me to do that.
I have a 4.2 miler and a 5 miler coming at the end of the month.
mainly because I suck, but I only do it for enjoyment as opposed to competition.
I picked up a nasty cold this weekend which means I will be off the streets for the next few days at least, if not the whole week.
Just wanna congratulate my brother (Bunkster) for finishing his first marathon yesterday.
After getting pretty damn disgusting at our gig the night before, the dude rolled up and took down the LI Marathon.
Congrats, J.
Time?
My free race entry into the 10k this weekend fell through so I skipped the event entirely. $75 to run a 10K is a fuckin rip off.
I'm debating switching from my ultra padded, cushioned, support Asics to the Nike Free 11s.
Quote from: G. Augusto on May 02, 2011, 02:48:39 PM
Just wanna congratulate my brother (Bunkster) for finishing his first marathon yesterday.
After getting pretty damn disgusting at our gig the night before, the dude rolled up and took down the LI Marathon.
Congrats, J.
Wow, nice job. I can't imagine pulling a marathon off, let alone after a night of partying.
Dudes.... Triathlons are the new Marathons
Quote from: iamhydroJen on May 02, 2011, 01:48:38 PM
I have pretty bad knees, but would like to ease back into running again. Any suggestions for getting back into running? I have been cycling (30 min) instead and then running for like 10-15 minutes afterwards, but don't know if that's a good routine. My goal is to at least run one 5k with ease this summer.
How many times a week are you at it?
That sounds like a pretty good routine, if it's not hurting you. If anything, I'd say that might be overkill if you're trying to
ease into it, for the sake of avoiding injury of course.
If 30 mins bike / 10-15 run is feeling good, then try to *slowly* decrease biking and increase running, for instance, 25 mins bike / 15 mins running for a week and see how that feels. Give it a week, minimum, and see how you're feeling after that week.
The other thing I'd say is try running on surfaces that give, even a little bit. Sand, trails, track, grass... those will all help your muscles get stronger without the tough impact that asphalt and concrete deliver.
Let us know how it goes / is going.
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on May 02, 2011, 03:28:01 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on May 02, 2011, 02:48:39 PM
Just wanna congratulate my brother (Bunkster) for finishing his first marathon yesterday.
After getting pretty damn disgusting at our gig the night before, the dude rolled up and took down the LI Marathon.
Congrats, J.
Wow, nice job. I can't imagine pulling a marathon off, let alone after a night of partying.
As you shouldn't. Dude's either been training long and hard or is just asking for an injury.
Quote from: G. Augusto on May 02, 2011, 02:48:39 PM
Just wanna congratulate my brother (Bunkster) for finishing his first marathon yesterday.
After getting pretty damn disgusting at our gig the night before, the dude rolled up and took down the LI Marathon.
Congrats, J.
congrats
Quote from: G. Augusto on May 02, 2011, 02:48:39 PM
Just wanna congratulate my brother (Bunkster) for finishing his first marathon yesterday.
After getting pretty damn disgusting at our gig the night before, the dude rolled up and took down the LI Marathon.
Congrats, J.
If anyone could do it, its that guy, way to go JJ! (Although I have the feeling that that kind of tenacity to get up and run a marathon after night of epic drinking runs in the family, a challenge perhaps?)
Quote from: hoodie22 on May 02, 2011, 05:07:43 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on May 02, 2011, 02:48:39 PM
Just wanna congratulate my brother (Bunkster) for finishing his first marathon yesterday.
After getting pretty damn disgusting at our gig the night before, the dude rolled up and took down the LI Marathon.
Congrats, J.
If anyone could do it, its that guy, way to go JJ! (Although I have the feeling that that kind of tenacity to get up and run a marathon after night of epic drinking runs in the family, a challenge perhaps?)
Maybe next year....
Quote from: MiamiPhish on May 02, 2011, 03:35:05 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on May 02, 2011, 03:28:01 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on May 02, 2011, 02:48:39 PM
Just wanna congratulate my brother (Bunkster) for finishing his first marathon yesterday.
After getting pretty damn disgusting at our gig the night before, the dude rolled up and took down the LI Marathon.
Congrats, J.
Wow, nice job. I can't imagine pulling a marathon off, let alone after a night of partying.
As you shouldn't. Dude's either been training long and hard or is just asking for an injury.
Nah he's just bad ass.
congrats lurker of lurks.
Anyone know anything about shin splints? My shins have been killing me for like a week, wondering if anyone has any advice. Not sure if it's because I run on hard surfaces or if I've been overdoing it lately (I recently started running 2mi in the AM and 2 in the PM, up from just 2 a day about two weeks ago). Anything I can do besides ice/take advil?
R.I.C.E. Shin Splints Treatment #1: Rest
As obvious as this step sounds, it takes discipline to rest in our busy lives but it is necessary in order for shin splints treatment to really work. Depending on the severity of the shin splints and duration of shin splints treatment needed, it may be advisable to take time off from work or other activities during shin splints treatment so that the shin splints can have time to heal. Shin splints treatment requires patience, because it can take a considerable amount of time to recover.
R.I.C.E. Shin Splints Treatment #2: Ice
Ice is a shin splints sufferer’s best friend, because it numbs the pain. Shin splints treatment takes time and it is painful, and ice can alleviate a lot of the agony. It also helps swelling go down. Reusable ice packs can be purchased that have gel in them, and they are highly effective for shin splints treatment. When the gel is frozen, it acts as ice but does not melt away. Simply refreeze the gel pack after each use, and make sure to have some handy that are frozen for when you need them most for shin splints treatment.
R.I.C.E. Shin Splints Treatment #3: Compression
Shin splints treatment also includes compression, which involves wrapping the lower leg. Counter pressure is a great pain reliever during the shin splints treatment process, and can be very soothing. Special leg wraps can be purchased that can be used to relieve pain and protect the leg during shin splints treatment.
R.I.C.E. Shin Splints Treatment #4: Elevation
Elevation is important during shin splints treatment so that blood flows properly to the legs. This shin splints treatment is also effective because it keeps unecessary weight off of the affected legs. While elevating the leg and resting, take the opportunity to read about preventative shin splints treatment so that you are better prepared to protect yourself next time.
Also, make sure you are in the right shoes - talk to an expert.
If you run on the street, the roads can be sloped, try to run on opposite sides of the road when you're on the way back or the second half of your route, etc.
what he said
also
- stretch your calves
-don't overdo it, as enthusiastic as you are
-look at your mechanics - are your shoes right for you? are you a pronator who needs orthotics (I am - until I got mine I always had shin splints. orthotics saved my life.
-if they recur, definitely see a podiatrist who will help you sort out the above
^^Thanks dudes. Any idea if it would be a bad idea for me to ride the stationary bike instead of running for ~week or so? I have mad ADD and if I don't get some form of exercise every day I'll be completely unable to focus on anything.
Should be fine.
I find that a lot of runners don't appreciate the value of strength workouts with weights. Your running will improve if you start lifting weights. Improving your back and core strength helps a lot too.
not at all. it's a great idea as long as it doesn't aggravate your injury (which it shouldn't)
my 1st marathon I was sidelined for a month with plantar fascitis. I got on a stationary bike (including my long "runs") and it kept me in shape.
Yeah I generally also play racquetball and lift every day too but I find that even if I do those and don't run I'm mad fidgety and can't focus on anything (which is no bueno because I'm currently smack in the middle of my finals). Thanks again for the advice.
Can anyone shed some good treatment tips for calf strain. I've done some research and laid off at points, giving my leg rest to a poin that feels fine only to have it return after doing some real distance. It's really only started a lot when I started running "barefoot", is minimalistic running all it's cracked up to be?
For those of you that don't check the iPhone thread, the Nike + app is free right now for a limited time.
Quote from: phil on May 17, 2011, 08:16:42 PM
^^Thanks dudes. Any idea if it would be a bad idea for me to ride the stationary bike instead of running for ~week or so? I have mad ADD and if I don't get some form of exercise every day I'll be completely unable to focus on anything.
A lot of times, shin splints can be a sign of significant weakness of the muscles that support your arch. Doing heel raises and some short spurts of backward jogging are simple ways to strengthen these muscles. Hope you're doing better.
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on May 30, 2011, 12:19:53 AM
Quote from: phil on May 17, 2011, 08:16:42 PM
^^Thanks dudes. Any idea if it would be a bad idea for me to ride the stationary bike instead of running for ~week or so? I have mad ADD and if I don't get some form of exercise every day I'll be completely unable to focus on anything.
A lot of times, shin splints can be a sign of significant weakness of the muscles that support your arch. Doing heel raises and some short spurts of backward jogging are simple ways to strengthen these muscles. Hope you're doing better.
Thanks man, I've taken about the last week and not run, just focused on lifting weights and lower body strengthening exercises like you said. I hadn't thought to jog backwards but I might give that a go this afternoon
Phil,
If I were you, I'd take a look at your mechanics and make sure you're running properly. Youtube videos should be an aid here, but ideally you'd like to be landing on your forefoot rather than midfoot or heels, back straight with a slight forward lean. I was having this problem when I started running seriously.
If you're landing on your heels or midfoot, the shock of the foot strike may very well be being absorbed by your bones (shins!) rather than your muscles. That was a big revelation for me. It took some practice to get comfortable running on my forefoot, but once I did it was like I had removed a brake from my legs that I didn't know I had. My shins haven't hurt since, and I've been able to gradually increase distance without any pain or discomfort.
You probably don't want to double your miles per day in one fell swoop, as a guideline.
Getting ready for a 20K this weekend.
This will be my 3rd time running it.
damtodam(dot)com if anyone is interested in checking it out! Pretty cool race.
Quote from: aphineday on May 30, 2011, 11:48:52 AM
Getting ready for a 20K this weekend.
This will be my 3rd time running it.
damtodam(dot)com if anyone is interested in checking it out! Pretty cool race.
Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.
And here's a youtube link and some further reading & video analysis for those interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo)
http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/ (http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/)
Phil,
How old are your shoes?
Quote from: JustJezmund on May 17, 2011, 09:00:31 PM
Can anyone shed some good treatment tips for calf strain. I've done some research and laid off at points, giving my leg rest to a poin that feels fine only to have it return after doing some real distance. It's really only started a lot when I started running "barefoot", is minimalistic running all it's cracked up to be?
Be careful, you might have the beginnings of a stress fracture as opposed to calf strain.
Quote from: antelope19 on May 30, 2011, 02:52:02 PM
Phil,
How old are your shoes?
Fairly new, I got them over thanksgiving
Nike Trainer 1.2 (http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/?l=shop,pdp,ctr-inline/cid-1/pid-317745/pgid-316037)
Should last ~500 miles. If you're running a good amount, you're probably due for a new pair.
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 30, 2011, 03:17:11 PM
Quote from: JustJezmund on May 17, 2011, 09:00:31 PM
Can anyone shed some good treatment tips for calf strain. I've done some research and laid off at points, giving my leg rest to a poin that feels fine only to have it return after doing some real distance. It's really only started a lot when I started running "barefoot", is minimalistic running all it's cracked up to be?
Be careful, you might have the beginnings of a stress fracture as opposed to calf strain.
its gone away again, but i am going to get an xray anyway soon since i recently hurt my opposite knee. Thanks though cause I def am looking for any input.
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on May 30, 2011, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: aphineday on May 30, 2011, 11:48:52 AM
Getting ready for a 20K this weekend.
This will be my 3rd time running it.
damtodam(dot)com if anyone is interested in checking it out! Pretty cool race.
Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.
And here's a youtube link and some further reading & video analysis for those interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo)
http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/ (http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/)
thanks - I've been thinking about this for a while.
I'm a very flat-footed pronator. If it wasn't for orthtotics, I couldn't walk, let alone run. I'm curious to know how this would work for people like me.
Quote from: slslbs on May 30, 2011, 10:45:49 PM
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on May 30, 2011, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: aphineday on May 30, 2011, 11:48:52 AM
Getting ready for a 20K this weekend.
This will be my 3rd time running it.
damtodam(dot)com if anyone is interested in checking it out! Pretty cool race.
Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.
And here's a youtube link and some further reading & video analysis for those interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo)
http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/ (http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/)
thanks - I've been thinking about this for a while.
I'm a very flat-footed pronator. If it wasn't for orthtotics, I couldn't walk, let alone run. I'm curious to know how this would work for people like me.
Steve, I'm not sure if there's a point where your feet are "too far gone" to do this. All the muscles that support your foot are still there, so I would imagine it would just take you a while to build up the proper strength.
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on May 31, 2011, 08:22:58 AM
Quote from: slslbs on May 30, 2011, 10:45:49 PM
Quote from: Play_It_Leo on May 30, 2011, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: aphineday on May 30, 2011, 11:48:52 AM
Getting ready for a 20K this weekend.
This will be my 3rd time running it.
damtodam(dot)com if anyone is interested in checking it out! Pretty cool race.
Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.
And here's a youtube link and some further reading & video analysis for those interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo)
http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/ (http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/)
thanks - I've been thinking about this for a while.
I'm a very flat-footed pronator. If it wasn't for orthtotics, I couldn't walk, let alone run. I'm curious to know how this would work for people like me.
Steve, I'm not sure if there's a point where your feet are "too far gone" to do this. All the muscles that support your foot are still there, so I would imagine it would just take you a while to build up the proper strength.
It's interesting for sure. I am also a flat footed pronator, but maybe not to that level. I wear the Saucony Hurricane, and it's about the best shoe I've found for my running style. I've tried numerous options from Asics to New Balance, and an Under Armour in there as well. The concept of barefoot running sounds very cool to me, but I've wondered how I would do.
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Getting ready for a 20K this weekend.
This will be my 3rd time running it.
damtodam(dot)com if anyone is interested in checking it out! Pretty cool race.
Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.
And here's a youtube link and some further reading & video analysis for those interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOgDCZ4GUo)
http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/ (http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/)
thanks - I've been thinking about this for a while.
I'm a very flat-footed pronator. If it wasn't for orthtotics, I couldn't walk, let alone run. I'm curious to know how this would work for people like me.
Steve, I'm not sure if there's a point where your feet are "too far gone" to do this. All the muscles that support your foot are still there, so I would imagine it would just take you a while to build up the proper strength.
It's interesting for sure. I am also a flat footed pronator, but maybe not to that level. I wear the Saucony Hurricane, and it's about the best shoe I've found for my running style. I've tried numerous options from Asics to New Balance, and an Under Armour in there as well. The concept of barefoot running sounds very cool to me, but I've wondered how I would do.
I'm not worried about being "too far gone". My feet were flat ever since I remember. Even when I was a kid, when I walked out of a pool, you see my entire footprint.
I'm just curious about the bio-mechanics of it all and how it would work for people like me.
I haven't had a chance to read about it yet. Hopefully this week.
Gotcha. Good luck, there's plenty of info out there if you look around enough.
Running in my first 5K tomorrow. Hoping to make it to the finish!
Quote from: khalpin on June 03, 2011, 08:06:03 AM
Running in my first 5K tomorrow. Hoping to make it to the finish!
Good luck! Let us know how it goes. You'll probably become addicted ;)
My 20k starts so early. Wait, moving to Today I Hate thread.
Fuck 5AM load time.
good luck!
5AM - wow. hope they serve coffee at the start
Quote from: khalpin on June 03, 2011, 08:06:03 AM
Running in my first 5K tomorrow. Hoping to make it to the finish!
I actually enjoyed it quite a bit and can definitely see myself doing it again. Finished at 26:20.
Quote from: khalpin on June 04, 2011, 11:55:07 AM
I actually enjoyed it quite a bit and can definitely see myself doing it again. Finished at 26:20.
Awesome, dude. Keep up the running!
Good time, 10k next?
20K done! I'm way slow, but I finished nonetheless.
2:32 Minutes / 12min miles. I'll get there...
strong work khalpin and aphineday
:beerbang:
Quote from: slslbs on June 04, 2011, 11:25:40 PM
strong work khalpin and aphineday
:beerbang:
Congrats guys, nice job!
IM SO THERE!!
http://www.superballix.com/runawayjim5k.html
QuoteI love the smell of motor oil in the morning. Eight years after the last race in Limestone, Maine, The 101st Running of the First Annual Runaway Jim Memorial 5k Road Race will curve around the speedway on Saturday morning at 11:15am sharp. It's technically 5.5 kilometers, 3.4 miles, but we know you're serious and want to give this race 110%. Drug testing will not take place before and after the race.
Officially registered runners will receive a numbered race bib for official timing. We encourage runners to pre-register online as only limited registration may be available at Watkins Glen. If you're not registered, have no fear -- runners who are not registered may run at the end of the pack behind the Official Runners. Trophies will be awarded to the fastest Male, Female, and cheetah, and the 2nd and 3rd place finisher over all.
The course race will be shown on the venue map you receive when you arrive at Super Ball IX. Runners will be running on pavement not grass.
The Runaway Jim Memorial 5k Road Race Registration Table (providing Numbered Bib pick up, General Race Information and Course Maps) will be open on Friday from Noon-8pm at the ReCharge Lounge in the back of the concert field and on Saturday morning beginning at 9:00am at the Pit Stop across from the yellow and red grandstands, which is also the starting and finishing point of the race.
Race entry is free to all ticket holders. Pre-Registration is ONLY available online through JUNE 30TH at NOON. Pre-registration is limited so sign up now by sending your name, email address, cell number to 5k@superballix.com.
Quote from: JustJezmund on June 08, 2011, 01:18:16 AM
IM SO THERE!!
http://www.superballix.com/runawayjim5k.html
QuoteI love the smell of motor oil in the morning. Eight years after the last race in Limestone, Maine, The 101st Running of the First Annual Runaway Jim Memorial 5k Road Race will curve around the speedway on Saturday morning at 11:15am sharp. It's technically 5.5 kilometers, 3.4 miles, but we know you're serious and want to give this race 110%. Drug testing will not take place before and after the race.
Officially registered runners will receive a numbered race bib for official timing. We encourage runners to pre-register online as only limited registration may be available at Watkins Glen. If you're not registered, have no fear -- runners who are not registered may run at the end of the pack behind the Official Runners. Trophies will be awarded to the fastest Male, Female, and cheetah, and the 2nd and 3rd place finisher over all.
The course race will be shown on the venue map you receive when you arrive at Super Ball IX. Runners will be running on pavement not grass.
The Runaway Jim Memorial 5k Road Race Registration Table (providing Numbered Bib pick up, General Race Information and Course Maps) will be open on Friday from Noon-8pm at the ReCharge Lounge in the back of the concert field and on Saturday morning beginning at 9:00am at the Pit Stop across from the yellow and red grandstands, which is also the starting and finishing point of the race.
Race entry is free to all ticket holders. Pre-Registration is ONLY available online through JUNE 30TH at NOON. Pre-registration is limited so sign up now by sending your name, email address, cell number to 5k@superballix.com.
Already registered ;)
Quote from: aphineday on June 08, 2011, 01:40:35 AM
Quote from: JustJezmund on June 08, 2011, 01:18:16 AM
IM SO THERE!!
http://www.superballix.com/runawayjim5k.html
QuoteI love the smell of motor oil in the morning. Eight years after the last race in Limestone, Maine, The 101st Running of the First Annual Runaway Jim Memorial 5k Road Race will curve around the speedway on Saturday morning at 11:15am sharp. It's technically 5.5 kilometers, 3.4 miles, but we know you're serious and want to give this race 110%. Drug testing will not take place before and after the race.
Officially registered runners will receive a numbered race bib for official timing. We encourage runners to pre-register online as only limited registration may be available at Watkins Glen. If you're not registered, have no fear -- runners who are not registered may run at the end of the pack behind the Official Runners. Trophies will be awarded to the fastest Male, Female, and cheetah, and the 2nd and 3rd place finisher over all.
The course race will be shown on the venue map you receive when you arrive at Super Ball IX. Runners will be running on pavement not grass.
The Runaway Jim Memorial 5k Road Race Registration Table (providing Numbered Bib pick up, General Race Information and Course Maps) will be open on Friday from Noon-8pm at the ReCharge Lounge in the back of the concert field and on Saturday morning beginning at 9:00am at the Pit Stop across from the yellow and red grandstands, which is also the starting and finishing point of the race.
Race entry is free to all ticket holders. Pre-Registration is ONLY available online through JUNE 30TH at NOON. Pre-registration is limited so sign up now by sending your name, email address, cell number to 5k@superballix.com.
Already registered ;)
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partied pretty hard and with no sleep, housin smokes and droogs....
still ran it it 21:43
I am fuckin $UP3R B@!!iN!
PIMP!
Quote from: JustJezmund on July 04, 2011, 07:30:59 PM
partied pretty hard and with no sleep, housin smokes and droogs....
still ran it it 21:43
I am fuckin $UP3R B@!!iN!
So he says. No one saw him running, no record of finishing.
I say it never happened.
Quote from: JustJezmund on July 04, 2011, 07:30:59 PM
partied pretty hard and with no sleep, housin smokes and droogs....
still ran it it 21:43
I am fuckin $UP3R B@!!iN!
My fat ass wasn't nearly as fast, but at least I finished. 32:21.
Hey all - I started a blog (as a project in lieu of thesis for my master's program) about running, particularly in Gainesville, FL. Posted today about tips for running during the summer.
Cheers!
http://rungainesville.wordpress.com
10th annual Jerry Garcia memorial run last night.
4.2m 28:40 (2nd in age) followed by grilled chicken dinner, beers, and dancing to Playin' Dead till about 11:30
can't wait until next year's race..
funny thing is - even though I'm tired as shit today (home at 12:30, up at 6:30) my legs feel great. Seems like dancing 2 - 3 hrs after a race is a great recovery method
Quote from: slslbs on July 29, 2011, 03:26:49 PM
10th annual Jerry Garcia memorial run last night.
4.2m 28:40 (2nd in age) followed by grilled chicken dinner, beers, and dancing to Playin' Dead till about 11:30
can't wait until next year's race..
funny thing is - even though I'm tired as shit today (home at 12:30, up at 6:30) my legs feel great. Seems like dancing 2 - 3 hrs after a race is a great recovery method
An extended time stretching technique, sounds like it would be effective, well done!
Any recommendations for a good armband holder for the ipod touch? I've been using my ipod shuffle but the kids have lost it.
Quote from: shoreline99 on September 09, 2011, 10:51:22 AM
Any recommendations for a good armband holder for the ipod touch? I've been using my ipod shuffle but the kids have lost it.
Griffin makes a good one. Called Aerosport I think? I use the ipod classic version and it rocks
anyone else race this AM?
did the Feaster 5 (5m, 35:46).
great way to start a day of too much eating.
Ran my first 5k last Saturday, finished in 28:12. Pretty good considering what a hung over mess I was.
good work, congrats
My wife is running a 5 km this morning for Movember.
cool
if the weather in your parts is anything at all like here, it should be a perfect day.
I was gonna enter a movember 'stache contest but figured it wouldn't be fair :wink:
Quote from: slslbs on November 26, 2011, 02:23:50 PM
cool
if the weather in your parts is anything at all like here, it should be a perfect day.
I was gonna enter a movember 'stache contest but figured it wouldn't be fair :wink:
Yeah, I'd say you have that one in the bag. It was about 8 degrees celsius here.
So I've been putting on a bit of a gut lately as well as feeling depressed and lazy a lot of the time, and I figured starting running would be a great way to combat all of these things. I went for the first time this morning before looking up this thread and was feeling beat after 10 minutes, then I looked at Mattstick's first post and I guess that's a good place to start. I do need some new shoes, though.
Quote from: Tomapella on January 25, 2012, 02:33:13 PM
So I've been putting on a bit of a gut lately as well as feeling depressed and lazy a lot of the time, and I figured starting running would be a great way to combat all of these things. I went for the first time this morning before looking up this thread and was feeling beat after 10 minutes, then I looked at Mattstick's first post and I guess that's a good place to start. I do need some new shoes, though.
Just don't over-do when you go out. A bad experience can make you real lazzzzy.
:phish:+running=greatness
Getting back into it! I've run 5 miles 3 times a week for the last 3 weeks! Need to get back in shape!
Quote from: antelope19 on February 07, 2012, 06:58:12 PM
Getting back into it! I've run 5 miles 3 times a week for the last 3 weeks! Need to get back in shape!
Nice!
Don't stop!
Just started my LI marathon training two weeks ago.
Stoked to be back.
Yeah, I need to sign up for a race for that extra motivation.
Quote from: antelope19 on February 07, 2012, 09:04:33 PM
Yeah, I need to sign up for a race for that extra motivation.
Always helps.
Got another 12k coming up and need some mixes! Anyone have some to share? I know Mattstick had some mixes up at some point???
Trying to beat my previous 12k time to bring it under 50 minutes. Looking at doing a half marathon next here eventually.
New Running shoes bump!
I got a pair of Saucony hurricane 14's for my birthday. I had forgotten how nice it is to have new running shoes(I was LONG overdue). It's like running on pillows!
Also, does anyone else use the map my run app? I love it! It tracks your route, tells you how far you've gone and how fast you're going. I'm currently averaging around 9:15 mile. Pretty slow, but I'm not trying to kill myself yet.
I bought a Nike+ SportWatch GPS, then I started riding my bike to work everyday and only run on the weekends...
http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikeplus/en_US/products/sportwatch_pdp?pid=406329
Quote from: mattstick on April 16, 2012, 04:33:46 PM
I bought a Nike+ SportWatch GPS, then I started riding my bike to work everyday and only run on the weekends...
http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikeplus/en_US/products/sportwatch_pdp?pid=406329
Nice! Sharp looking watch
Quote from: antelope19 on April 16, 2012, 03:38:06 PM
New Running shoes bump!
I got a pair of Saucony hurricane 14's for my birthday. I had forgotten how nice it is to have new running shoes(I was LONG overdue). It's like running on pillows!
Also, does anyone else use the map my run app? I love it! It tracks your route, tells you how far you've gone and how fast you're going. I'm currently averaging around 9:15 mile. Pretty slow, but I'm not trying to kill myself yet.
I've used the web site to map out courses and distances but not the app itself. I should try it.
btw, this was NOT a great day for a marathon. I ran 8 yesterday and was quite warm.
+k to all the runners and volunteers
Quote from: mattstick on April 16, 2012, 04:33:46 PM
I bought a Nike+ SportWatch GPS, then I started riding my bike to work everyday and only run on the weekends...
http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikeplus/en_US/products/sportwatch_pdp?pid=406329
What kind of bike do you have?
My buddy and I used to be cycling fanatics. His older brother is a semi-pro (?) cyclist, so he got us into it. I really need to get back into cycling.
I've stopped enjoying the occasional beer Monday-Thursday in hopes of speeding up the process of getting back in shape too. Totally not worth it. :roll:
time to bump this one.
the Annual Jerry Garcia Memorial Run last night.
5K - gun 21:58, net 21:13
followed by 2 hours of Harpoon on tap and dancing to Playin' Dead.
good times
Bump.
Anyone doing any races this fall? thinking about signing up for a half.........
thanksgiving - choice of 5K vs 5m
Heading to the Portland Marathon tomorrow to check it out. Should be cool. I was a fairly serious cyclist (3-4K miles/year) for the last few years but had to move out of my house for re-model 6 months ago and all my gear has just gotten spread around. Could never even run for a full two minutes without my back just becoming crippled for days. Running just felt weird and I was never even remotely attracted to it. After I lost my exercise outlet (cycling), I though I would give running a try. Tat was back in May, and I did the Couch to 5K because I was afraid my back would just quit on me. That is a super slow program, it takes 8 weeks to get up to 5K, but that's what worked for me. It is great having a routine. I have run every M/W/F since I started that back in May, usually get on the road at 6:30. I do some weekend runs too (about to head out). I am fully addicted now. Longest run is still only 5 miles and my fastest pace is 8:30 but I am not trying to break any records (or my body).
Anyway, just got totally bit by the bug, was happy to find this forum, I read the whole thread. What I love about running over cycling is that I put my shoes on and go. With biking I would have to get my gear together, or inflate my tires or change my tubes or adjust my brakes. And spend a ton of money on gear. I bought a nike+ nano and a pair of Gel Nimbus and I was good to go for the most part. So much more relaxing than all the gear. And the best part about it is that with running, I can (at this point) get a really good workout in 30-45 minutes (3 or 4 miles plus warmup) and on the road bike I would need to get out for 65 miles (3-4 hours) for a decent workout. We will see if I can keep my perfect attendance record going as the weather turns here, but as of now, I have never felt better.
anyone do any races this AM
Feaster 5, 5K
21:58
now I can have all the turkey, stuffing, and pumpkin pie with a clear conscience
Quote from: slslbs on November 22, 2012, 05:00:13 PM
anyone do any races this AM
Feaster 5, 5K
21:58
now I can have all the turkey, stuffing, and pumpkin pie with a clear conscience
Was going to do the Turkey Trot at the zoo but ended up sleeping in. Still got in a good 4 mile run (pace 9:15) which was great because it is a nice dry day here and the weekend is supposed to be wet. Since my last post, I went to the Portland Marathon and it was pretty rad. Me and JP and Hick's friend Sarah came in 3rd place for the women at 2:58 which is pretty fast if you ask me. I was averaging 12-15 miles a week before all the rain came, but I am down to 9-11 miles a week now (3-4 miles three times a week).
as long as your out there doing it.
QuoteHick's friend Sarah came in 3rd place for the women at 2:58 which is pretty fast if you ask me.
that's a great time (faster than the 5K pace I ran today)
After constantly running myself in to a wall, no pun intended, I was starting to get really frustrated with my inability to run at least 30 minutes every other day without feeling like dying during my run. So since winter break started I decided to find some things to help get my body and mind feeling good. I started looking around for some low impact workout plans to get myself SLOWLY back in shape without over-doing it. I found this app on my iphone called the 10k runner and I gotta say that it's the best thing that has happened to my body since my travel hockey days. I strongly suggest this to anyone who has a hard time getting past that first initial back-in-the-workout-game workout. The program is supposed to take you from "sitting on the couch" to 5k to 10k and then if you really feel like pushing yourself there is a half-marathon runner after that. The first week is simple. For example, the first day is a 5-minute warm-up walk and then alternating a 1-minute run and walk and 2-minute walk, and then a cool-down walk. It's super easy. I'm five weeks in and I feel great. I just got back from my run tonight and it was a piece of cake. I'm positive there are similar programs on smart-phones as well. CHECK IT FOOLS!
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Been training for the Sleepy Hollow half in NY on March 23rd.
Haven't run a sanctioned 13 in a while, so I'm pumped up.
Pretty hilly and scenic, this one is gonna be dope.
My wife and I are making this our "last" extended weekend together before little J comes this Summer.
A few nights in Sleepy Hollow and then shooting over to Mohegan Sun in a fat suite.
This is only the 3rd annual Sleepy half, so hopefully I can make it a tradition.
Pumped.
sounds like fun
good luck
Quote from: Augustus on February 20, 2013, 06:38:15 PM
Been training for the Sleepy Hollow half in NY on March 23rd.
Haven't run a sanctioned 13 in a while, so I'm pumped up.
Pretty hilly and scenic, this one is gonna be dope.
My wife and I are making this our "last" extended weekend together before little J comes this Summer.
A few nights in Sleepy Hollow and then shooting over to Mohegan Sun in a fat suite.
This is only the 3rd annual Sleepy half, so hopefully I can make it a tradition.
Pumped.
How'd it go today??
Quote from: antelope19 on March 23, 2013, 06:04:27 PM
Quote from: Augustus on February 20, 2013, 06:38:15 PM
Been training for the Sleepy Hollow half in NY on March 23rd.
Haven't run a sanctioned 13 in a while, so I'm pumped up.
Pretty hilly and scenic, this one is gonna be dope.
My wife and I are making this our "last" extended weekend together before little J comes this Summer.
A few nights in Sleepy Hollow and then shooting over to Mohegan Sun in a fat suite.
This is only the 3rd annual Sleepy half, so hopefully I can make it a tradition.
Pumped.
How'd it go today??
Just ok.
Been sidelined for a month with a crack knee, but I rolled up and finished in 2:15.
Ok for zero training in the past month on a really hilly course.
I'm gonna run it next year all proper.
Quote from: Augustus on March 23, 2013, 06:39:00 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 23, 2013, 06:04:27 PM
Quote from: Augustus on February 20, 2013, 06:38:15 PM
Been training for the Sleepy Hollow half in NY on March 23rd.
Haven't run a sanctioned 13 in a while, so I'm pumped up.
Pretty hilly and scenic, this one is gonna be dope.
My wife and I are making this our "last" extended weekend together before little J comes this Summer.
A few nights in Sleepy Hollow and then shooting over to Mohegan Sun in a fat suite.
This is only the 3rd annual Sleepy half, so hopefully I can make it a tradition.
Pumped.
How'd it go today??
Just ok.
Been sidelined for a month with a crack knee, but I rolled up and finished in 2:15.
Ok for zero training in the past month on a really hilly course.
I'm gonna run it next year all proper.
Yeah, I'd say you did pretty well considering. Glad to hear it!
Quote from: antelope19 on March 23, 2013, 06:41:15 PM
Quote from: Augustus on March 23, 2013, 06:39:00 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on March 23, 2013, 06:04:27 PM
Quote from: Augustus on February 20, 2013, 06:38:15 PM
Been training for the Sleepy Hollow half in NY on March 23rd.
Haven't run a sanctioned 13 in a while, so I'm pumped up.
Pretty hilly and scenic, this one is gonna be dope.
My wife and I are making this our "last" extended weekend together before little J comes this Summer.
A few nights in Sleepy Hollow and then shooting over to Mohegan Sun in a fat suite.
This is only the 3rd annual Sleepy half, so hopefully I can make it a tradition.
Pumped.
How'd it go today??
Just ok.
Been sidelined for a month with a crack knee, but I rolled up and finished in 2:15.
Ok for zero training in the past month on a really hilly course.
I'm gonna run it next year all proper.
Yeah, I'd say you did pretty well considering. Glad to hear it!
yep, good work!!
Thanks, guys.
It's kinda nice knowing that I have the cardio strength to just run 13 miles "cold."
Gonna run the LI half in 5 weeks with better results.
Also, I've never been this sore EVER.
Quote from: Augustus on March 24, 2013, 03:36:19 PM
Thanks, guys.
It's kinda nice knowing that I have the cardio strength to just run 13 miles "cold."
Gonna run the LI half in 5 weeks with better results.
Also, I've never been this sore EVER.
I bet.
I'm hoping to sign up for a race soon. Been working my way back up to 5 miles, 2-3 times a week again.
Nice, dude.
Keep running!
Quote from: Augustus on March 24, 2013, 03:36:19 PM
Thanks, guys.
It's kinda nice knowing that I have the cardio strength to just run 13 miles "cold."
Gonna run the LI half in 5 weeks with better results.
Also, I've never been this sore EVER.
Nice work Aug.
Nice one, Aug!
Anyone have a good road running mix to share? I need to reload my iPod this week.
http://www.runforyourlives.com/
Anyone here run in Newtons?
Went to pick up my bib for this weekend's race and copped a pair at the expo.
Usually $160 for $65 on last year's models.
My first non-Nike purchase in over ten years!
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They LOOK fast!
Looks like you trampled a leprechaun to death.
Twice. :-P
Nice snag, hope they wear well.
Official time of 1:56:02/8:51p for today's race.
Felt good and prepared.
Was gunnin' for 1:57, so I'm happy with my results.
And chaffed the fuck up
Quote from: Augustus on May 05, 2013, 02:57:12 PM
Official time of 1:56:02/8:51p for today's race.
Felt good and prepared.
Was gunnin' for 1:57, so I'm happy with my results.
And chaffed the fuck up
nice job :clap:
Quote from: Augustus on May 05, 2013, 02:57:12 PM
Official time of 1:56:02/8:51p for today's race.
Felt good and prepared.
Was gunnin' for 1:57, so I'm happy with my results.
And chaffed the fuck up
congrats :beers:
remember, Vaseline has more uses than you think
Quote from: slslbs on May 05, 2013, 06:56:51 PM
congrats :beers:
Hell yeah. Have another, on me. :beers:
Ran the Long Beach 10.118 this AM in 1:24/8:22.
Happy with my time considering how crazy windy it was and that I've only ran twice since my half last month.
Now it's time to drink!
Just kidding. Putting shelves up in the nursery.
great job
:beers:
Quote from: Augustus on May 26, 2013, 11:34:45 AM
Now it's time to drink!
Just kidding. Putting shelves up in the nursery.
Uh, why not both?
Holy crap, it's hard running with a jogging stroller.
Def a good training device for the half i wanna run this summer.
5K this AM
22:48 (7:23).
I actually didn't know they were having this and ran 5 miles yesterday and the day before
Regardless, 2nd for age (there apparently is a benefit to being a part of the 50 - 60 age group)
Hey guys, congrats on the times and races, encouraging running through the thread.
Just starting to run myself, lot easier without the extra 85 pounds, knees didn't like it when I was 275.
Any suggestions on sites about technique and training? I want to run 5k this summer and then a local charity 7 miler with a friend in the fall. Feel like I am way too much on my heels. Able to go out and do about 3.5 miles without issue, pace is slow 8:35/mi last 2 runs.
Thanks for any help.
-G
Runners World has a good web site with lots of training tips for all types of runners.
If you think your technique is off, try going to a good running store and try on some shoes. They'll watch you run.
I was looking at people's shoes before the race - for the 1st time in a while, I didn't see any minimalist or barefoot type shoes. It seems as if there were some injuries from that method, too.
Don't worry about pace if you're just starting. Just go out, have fun, and don't get injured. It's probably better not to be a Type A self competitive type like me, anyway
Quote from: slslbs on July 05, 2013, 08:34:24 PM
Runners World has a good web site with lots of training tips for all types of runners.
If you think your technique is off, try going to a good running store and try on some shoes. They'll watch you run.
I was looking at people's shoes before the race - for the 1st time in a while, I didn't see any minimalist or barefoot type shoes. It seems as if there were some injuries from that method, too.
Don't worry about pace if you're just starting. Just go out, have fun, and don't get injured. It's probably better not to be a Type A self competitive type like me, anyway
Thanks, I'll go to Runners World. We have a great local running store here that the few marathoners I know swear by, guy is supposed to be really good. If I get real into it I am going to go to him for shoes to make sure I have the exact right fit.
Did 3.5 today in the 90+ degree heat and high humidity. Time was a little slower, but really focused on my leg kick and coming down more mid foot and not right on the edge of my heal. Felt a lot better after.
Quote from: Guyute on July 05, 2013, 09:20:30 AM
Hey guys, congrats on the times and races, encouraging running through the thread.
Just starting to run myself, lot easier without the extra 85 pounds, knees didn't like it when I was 275.
Any suggestions on sites about technique and training? I want to run 5k this summer and then a local charity 7 miler with a friend in the fall. Feel like I am way too much on my heels. Able to go out and do about 3.5 miles without issue, pace is slow 8:35/mi last 2 runs.
Thanks for any help.
-G
Your foot should strike the ground just behind the arch of your foot. That said, running technique is nearly impossible to change, if you're doing something wrong you'll have to work for years at changing it.
Just make sure you get fitted for shoes by a pro, I'd do it sooner rather than later as well.
Figured out my mistake. I was making a very long stride causing me to land on the back of my heal. That combined with years of marching band causing me to roll on my heels. Shortened the stride a bit and I am hitting just before my arch, but not flat on my heel. Been successful the last 4-5 runs like that.
Working on a good kick and duration now. 30 minutes yesterday at 7:40/mile. Did insanity this morning and then 3.5 miles tonight at 8:04. Slower, but it was a second workout.
thanks for the pointers to sites guys.
^^^
great
ran the annual Jerry Garcia Memorial 5K last night (in the rain)
21:18 (6:53), 3rd for age
didn't stick around for the brews and the band as usual cause of the weather, still a fun evening though
Nice job!
Quote from: slslbs on July 26, 2013, 06:43:17 PM
^^^
great
ran the annual Jerry Garcia Memorial 5K last night (in the rain)
21:18 (6:53), 3rd for age
didn't stick around for the brews and the band as usual cause of the weather, still a fun evening though
Nice work!!
Most of you probably saw the pics and vid I posted on FB, but yesterday I ran the Long Beach 5 Miler and placed 3rd in my division (30-34).
Stoked! Ran it in 39:50/7:58.
Got a trophy! For running!
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/null_zps87cadf2a.jpg)
awesome job bro.
you definitely should have had the fluffhead sign.
or is 'Read the Book" the new Fluffhead. I can;t keep up.
but good job.
oh yeah, and you're old.
Quote from: DoW on September 03, 2013, 09:01:29 AM
you definitely should have had the fluffhead sign.
or is 'Read the Book" the new Fluffhead. I can;t keep up.
but good job.
oh yeah, and you're old.
Sometimes I feel old.
Training for the Philly Marathon in November, so I'm putting up some miles each week.
Congrats, Bud! That trophy belongs on the mantel!
Nice man. I applaud you. I always wanted to run a marathon but never put in the training. Maybe someday I'll motivate myself.
Quote from: DoW on September 03, 2013, 09:08:17 AM
Nice man. I applaud you. I always wanted to run a marathon but never put in the training. Maybe someday I'll motivate myself.
Do it before you turn 35... :wink:
Quote from: Augustus on September 03, 2013, 09:14:25 AM
Quote from: DoW on September 03, 2013, 09:08:17 AM
Nice man. I applaud you. I always wanted to run a marathon but never put in the training. Maybe someday I'll motivate myself.
Do it before you turn 35... :wink:
looks like I better start building that time machine then :-D
strong work
:clap:
Philly is supposed to be a great marathon. Good luck!
Shit yeah Aug, nice work. :clap:
Is Philly gonna be your first full marathon?
I enjoy running but I can't imagine being able to pull that off, good on ya.
Thanks, guys.
Yeah, Philly will be my first although there is still a chance that I can win a bib for NYC, which is two weeks before.
Those kicks look pretty dope on the podium. Nice work!
Nice work, Joe--be proud.
Best of luck in Philly!!!! Not to be a downer, but please tell me you have reviewed with your doc and he/she has cleared you? Can't be too safe
Quote from: Guyute on September 03, 2013, 11:23:09 PM
Best of luck in Philly!!!! Not to be a downer, but please tell me you have reviewed with your doc and he/she has cleared you? Can't be too safe
What issues of mine should I bring up?
hey bud hit me up if you wanna grab a drink and a cheese steak post run.
I didn't talk to a Doctor before I started running marathons. If you can run a half, then train for a full - you should have an idea of whether or not you're healthy enough to do it.
You gonna break my 3:52 Aug?
Quote from: Augustus on September 04, 2013, 05:01:28 AM
Quote from: Guyute on September 03, 2013, 11:23:09 PM
Best of luck in Philly!!!! Not to be a downer, but please tell me you have reviewed with your doc and he/she has cleared you? Can't be too safe
What issues of mine should I bring up?
I have quite a few friends that runs marathons. Unfortunately, a friend of the family died in the Philly marathon a couple years back. Ever since then I just ask folks to get checked out first as it is such a strain.
Sorry to hear that, man.
What was your friend's fitness level like?
I'm I'm pretty fair shape now, running 30-35 miles a week, work out 5 days a week and eat well.
Blood pressure is in check, too.
I appreciate the concern tho, Guyute.
Matt: Gunning for a 55, but now I'm going for 51.
Jez: Chyeah!
3-4 marathons a year plus an iron man or 2.
I am going in for a work up as I am starting to run more now that I shed that pesky 110 pounds of baby weight.
Have fun in the race. Philly is a great city.
So i've cut back on my running for the last month or so because i'm having problems with my little piggies. When I hit about the 25 minute mark my toes go numb. I've had my nike free's for way too long, so I definitely need to get some new kicks. I'm planning on going to the store ASAP to get myself something new. However, my friend told me i should purchase the toe shoes. Apparently they promote better circulation and form. I've always been pretty skeptical of those things. Does anyone here have any experience with these problems/shoes?
I'm too lazy to look through all the pages of this thread to see if there was a discussion on this.
I'm skeptical. I really don't think toe shoes are going to give you the kind of support you require. Nike Free are gym shoes for like 20 minutes on the treadmill or doing exercise classes, you need something that will balance your potential impact/pronation issues.
Do they have Running Room in your area? Go talk to them and buy your shoes there.
I spoke w my podiatrist about minimalist running. He says it has it's own set up problems and didn't recommend it.
agree with Matt's advice
Quote from: EdBanky on September 12, 2013, 02:19:47 PM
So i've cut back on my running for the last month or so because i'm having problems with my little piggies. When I hit about the 25 minute mark my toes go numb. I've had my nike free's for way too long, so I definitely need to get some new kicks. I'm planning on going to the store ASAP to get myself something new. However, my friend told me i should purchase the toe shoes. Apparently they promote better circulation and form. I've always been pretty skeptical of those things. Does anyone here have any experience with these problems/shoes?
I'm too lazy to look through all the pages of this thread to see if there was a discussion on this.
I can tell you from first hand experience, If you get the toe shoes...don't get them for running. I know there a lot of other people that disagree with me and say that they are better. I used to run in mine and tried to buy in to the hype, but now days I can't handle it, especially since I mostly run outside. Instead of going 25+ min. you'll be able to go about 10 min. They hurt the bottoms of your feet! Go with a solid running shoe with good support.
Hit my personal best last night. I ran 2.87 miles! Usually by 2 miles I'm pretty fatigued and have to call it quits. Tomorrow I'm shooting for 3!
strong work!
Keep it up!
Quote from: fastfingers12 on October 01, 2013, 06:21:00 PM
Hit my personal best last night. I ran 2.87 miles! Usually by 2 miles I'm pretty fatigued and have to call it quits. Tomorrow I'm shooting for 3!
Nice, keep pushing!!
Surprised myself today--
I pretty much stopped running when Ellie was a newborn, middle of '08. Stayed in shape at the gym, then just working on my feet a ton this past year.
Since moving back home this summer I've started running again on my old routes from growing up. Today I was feeling good and had summer tour highlights lined up on the iPod, running dirt roads in fall color, so I turned left instead of right and wound up going twice as far as I've run since my last marathon, Burlington 2007. It was just absolutely fucking tremendous.
Nice!
Quote from: Augustus on October 05, 2013, 06:20:25 PM
Nice!
This
Also, running the 7 mile leg in a relay next weekend. Baltimore marathon. Running through Camden yards is amazing.
sounds like a couple of great runs
although I'm wondering how far that summer tour highlights really got you
:evil:
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
I dipped in to LB 9 in the last couple miles. But it was 8/31 II that made me turn left.
Cut my 18 miler short at 14.40.
Tight calf has been bothering me, so I didn't want to risk any injury, especially with 6 more weeks of training.
smart move
keep stretching
Quote from: slslbs on October 06, 2013, 11:12:21 AM
smart move
keep stretching
Yup. Ice and self-massage, too.s
Finally busted the 3 mile mark, and then some! 3.28 total! I'm really pumped. And I did it under 30 min.
:samurai:
Nice, dude!
Quote from: Augustus on October 06, 2013, 10:40:06 AM
Cut my 18 miler short at 14.40.
Tight calf has been bothering me, so I didn't want to risk any injury, especially with 6 more weeks of training.
what you should be training for is the post run cheesesteak/beer sesh we'll have.
It's on!
Nice work Aug!
Okay, so I was always the athlete in middle school and high school, and was always in incredible shape. Needless to say, once I started drinking/doing drugs regularly, that all faded away over time. I have these moments of "guilt", if you will, once or twice a week, where I feel like a piece of shit due to the shape I'm in, compared to the shape I was once in.
Anyway, I think someone had mentioned that there is an app that sets a schedule or something for you and lets you slowly get back into running without over-working you and scaring you away. Does this exist, or am I delusional?
Aside from that, do any of you hardcore, every-day runners (Aug, Matt, whoever) have any general tips for getting back into running? Or is it just kinda of a "force yourself to do it and get use to it" kinda thing?
10k runner. Takes you from basically the easiest run of your life to running 3/5/10 miles no problem. There's even a marathon trainer.
I like to use the nike running app.
Nice, thanks dudes!
I've yet to say to myself "I am going to start running", only because I felt like I would flake out. I told myself I would never say I was going to start unless I was absolutely going to go through with it.
Also, any condition/diet tips would help. I eat complete junk and drink DP's like they're going out of style. Luckily, My metabolism is still as high as it was when I was 15, so I haven't gotten fat... yet. Gotta cut that shit out.
Quote from: Lifeboy on October 11, 2013, 09:50:23 AM
Okay, so I was always the athlete in middle school and high school, and was always in incredible shape. Needless to say, once I started drinking/doing drugs regularly, that all faded away over time. I have these moments of "guilt", if you will, once or twice a week, where I feel like a piece of shit due to the shape I'm in, compared to the shape I was once in.
Anyway, I think someone had mentioned that there is an app that sets a schedule or something for you and lets you slowly get back into running without over-working you and scaring you away. Does this exist, or am I delusional?
Aside from that, do any of you hardcore, every-day runners (Aug, Matt, whoever) have any general tips for getting back into running? Or is it just kinda of a "force yourself to do it and get use to it" kinda thing?
1- just do it. In a few weeks it will become habit
2-there are lots of articles about exactly how to do it. I started off small, 1 mile etc and built up. Runners World has a beginners column - I thihnk most of the pros now say mix walking and running, gradually walking less and running more. there are also a fair # of "couch to 5K" articles and programs.
I think the bottom line is to build up slowly so you don't get injured. don't worry about pace, distance, etc, just get out there and do what feels good
My leg was A little over 7 miles miles today at the Baltimore marathon relay.
Nice app. :roll:
Good job!
Lulz.......you making fun of my stop watch?
Sure am!
What the hell is that crap!
Get RunKeeper and get some STATS.
Quote from: Augustus on October 12, 2013, 05:01:20 PM
Sure am!
What the hell is that crap!
Get RunKeeper and get some STATS.
Never heard of it. I'll have to look into that. Thanks! I use map my run occasionally
Quote from: Augustus on October 12, 2013, 05:01:20 PM
Sure am!
What the hell is that crap!
Get RunKeeper and get some STATS.
^^^ yep
nice job
It's free and is crazy accurate.
Maps.
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/E6557933-F491-4E35-9017-DA8EEF5AFBF4-7377-0000076FC2F3CFED_zpse8b5e02a.jpg)
Splits.
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/64AFBFD5-6208-49F3-B911-83660638A8F3-7377-0000076FC806D73F_zps5ec109d6.jpg)
Interactive charts.
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/CEF4F301-B10F-4A54-8703-3877A4C6BAAB-7377-0000076FCC91291F_zps58b37fbb.jpg)
Free.
nice course
Was using mapmyride. I'm gonna switch to that. Thanks.
The shoes I have been running in are on their last leg. They are so worn down that they are starting to hurt my feet. Any recommendations on another good running shoe? I have been using nike free.
I'm all about Newton.
Run in there Terras for trails and have their new Energy model now.
There are always blowouts at Runners Edge on them, but they have limited sizes.
Honestly, go to a good running store and get fitted. What's good for one person, might not be for the other. I swear by saucony. My wife swears by asics. People on here probably use something different. But your body and the way you walk will determine what you need.
Just finished my last LONG run before my race in 4 weeks.
Ran a 20 @ 9:16. Felt good and comfortable throughout.
Looking forward to cutting back a bit on mileage, tho!
nice
enjoy the taper
you running NY or Philly?
Quote from: slslbs on October 20, 2013, 10:34:52 AM
nice
enjoy the taper
you running NY or Philly?
Philly.
Considered buying a NYC bib from Craigslist, but they're going for $400.
Already spent enough in Philly with registration, hotel and cheesesteak fund.
I'm so jealous of Aug and the others guys that regularly run in races/events. I know it's possible for anyone to do it, and I hope to be at that level some day. It's just that I'm sure it's a lot of work to get to that level, and I bet it's an awesome feeling once you get there.
:beers:
It is, but it's not "that" much work.
We all take extended breaks from running, but the more you run and train, the easier it is to get your foundation back when you do decide to start running again.
I started my training for this race 11 weeks ago, pretty much coming back from 3 months off.
My foundation was still there, even if it was slow, but the miles and pace came back quickly.
You'll always get your mikes back faster than your pace, so don't let time deter you.
agreed
a 5K isn't that much of an "investment" once you get the miles
don't worry about pace
I'm on like an 18 month hiatus from running. Running in the winter in Toronto is great fun and great exercise, so I've been looking at my runners for a week or so now, getting ready to get back into things.
Dude!
It became really difficult to bike 14k to and from work everyday and still find time and energy to run.
I also noticed that my muscles changed from long/endurance to short/strength, which was weird.
I'm sure my Nike+ band battery is dead, which is really sad.
Quote from: Augustus on October 20, 2013, 10:45:18 AM
Quote from: slslbs on October 20, 2013, 10:34:52 AM
nice
enjoy the taper
you running NY or Philly?
Philly.
Considered buying a NYC bib from Craigslist, but they're going for $400.
Already spent enough in Philly with registration, hotel and cheesesteak fund.
uhhh you know there's record stores too bro?
Quote from: JustJezmund on October 22, 2013, 02:58:53 PM
Quote from: Augustus on October 20, 2013, 10:45:18 AM
Quote from: slslbs on October 20, 2013, 10:34:52 AM
nice
enjoy the taper
you running NY or Philly?
Philly.
Considered buying a NYC bib from Craigslist, but they're going for $400.
Already spent enough in Philly with registration, hotel and cheesesteak fund.
uhhh you know there's record stores too bro?
Gonna have the baby.
He doesn't wanna look at no damn records after eating all those cheesesteaks!
GOOD LUCK AUG !!!!!!
Have fun, have a great race
:rawk: :rawk:
Quote from: slslbs on November 16, 2013, 10:27:24 AM
GOOD LUCK AUG !!!!!!
Have fun, have a great race
:rawk: :rawk:
This
Thanks, guys!
Hopefully all the training gets me to my goal.
Stoked!
Quote from: Augustus on November 16, 2013, 02:02:33 PM
Thanks, guys!
Hopefully all the training gets me to my goal.
Stoked!
crush IT dude.
You got this. :rawk:
WTG Augustus... :clap:
sub 4 hrs on first full. :crazy:
Pound cheesteaks kid.
WAY TO GO AUG!
Great job!!
Congrats!!!
:beers:
(PS - you won't be able to walk down stairs for a few days)
DAY-UM!!!!!
:beers:
Congrats, Bud!
whoa! good job!!
Thanks, guys!
Quick first half, but still finished at my goal of 355.
I'm DUNZO.
Wow. 'grats!
Awesome! Way to go mang! Where you hooking cheesesteaks? We went to Tony Lukes before we left for AC. Place is da bomb....
Thanks again, y'all.
No cheesesteaks. :cry:
Philly was traffic city and after checking out of the hotel and packing up my son's stuff and all, I just wanted to get home.
Well done Aug :clap:
If you're thinking of trying to beat my 3:52... your second marathon is tougher than your first. 8-)
Quote from: mattstick on November 18, 2013, 01:56:19 PM
If you're thinking of trying to beat my 3:52... your second marathon is tougher than your first. 8-)
How would you know? ;)
I've got 2 medals around my neck, Toronto and Ottawa.
http://www.sportstats.ca/displayResults.xhtml?racecode=45552&bib=1243
http://www.sportstats.ca/displayResults.xhtml?racecode=46327&bib=1677
Nice!
I said only one for myself after yesterday, but now I'm planning out 2014.
Pretty sure I'm doing LI in May.
Def doing the Sleepy Hollow half in March.
AND...a 5K Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving AM.
Gunning for a 23 min finish.
Also, what was different for your second?
Not as much training time?
Oddly enough, I felt as close to 100% yesterday, physically, but mentally bonked later as you can see by my splits.
I trained harder, but less. I think I only ran 30K one time before the Ottawa Marathon.
In an effort to run a 3:30, I was concerned with speed and ultimately dropped the ball on endurance.
The course was a lot tougher in Ottawa as well, but 4:12 was really, really disappointing after all that training.
I feel ya. That stinks, especially when training with a specific number in mind.
My original goal was a 55, then a 52 with how my training was going.
I was on pace to crush, but had too much going on in my head.
I saw an ad for Ottawa and that course looks beautiful.
You've got me inspired to lace up the shoes and run something next fall, looking at The County Marathon in Wellington Ontario which should be nice and flat.
Nice, man!
for me, personally, the 1st was about finishing. I actually had plenty of gas left at the end (4:07 unofficial,n Boston 99) and it was the most fun I ever had running. The next 3 were about time, with more pressure and less fun (I tried to run a BQ). One of them, the temp was upper 70s-low 80s and humid. I was in great shape but the heat (and running a much too fast 7:20 split mile 17) wiped me out. Pace strategy for a full marathon is pretty tough - for me, anyway
Sounds like you hit your goal, great job
That idea about having "too much in your head" is a pretty big hurdle too. It's much more mental than you realize until you get into the race and into that third hour.
Yep. I made "The Perfect Phish Show" as my playlist and was so excited to listen to it.
I was stoked to LISTEN to music as I ran.
Somewhere in there I realized that I wasn't listening to the music at all and that I hadn't been in quite some time.
Instead, I was crunching numbers and "what if?" pace outcomes for miles.
My last training 20 miler was at a comfortable 9:15, but I told myself that if I came out fast, I would stay with it while I had it in me.
Thing was, is that my miles were effortless for the first 15 and then I started thinking too much.
It's weird, but I'll take it as a lesson learned.
Quote from: mattstick on November 18, 2013, 07:42:08 PM
That idea about having "too much in your head" is a pretty big hurdle too. It's much more mental than you realize until you get into the race and into that third hour.
It's the same with cycling imo...I have not run a marathon but I have done many 100 mile rides (my longest ride is 137 miles) and your mental strength really plays a huge part in it, sometimes as much if not more than conditioning. My first distance ride (1996?) was 130 miles from NYC to Montauk Point and I was not conditioned at all. I think my longest ride to that point was 50 miles but I made it on mental fortitude.....Sometimes if you're not feeling it, it's hard to even make it half that distance....
For a stretch I was thinking of my buddy that just completed the Iron Man in Lake Placid.
I couldn't think about that for too long, tho.
I had some friends ride their bikes along side me for km 32-36 which really helped. Just being able to talk to someone else, crack a few jokes, etc. took my mind off things.
I don't think I could run a marathon in Miles, it would be so depressing.
To me, it's almost all mental. If I commit to it, I'm gonna put in the training time, I'm gonna put in the effort, and I know my body can handle it. But the thought of running for 4 hours/26 miles is a hurdle I have yet to overcome.....especially after the way I felt after my first half marathon. I can't imagine doing that twice. I'll get there eventually.
It's all about the training. If you put the miles in, you can do it.
the hard part imo is trying to hit a certain time.
Quote from: slslbs on November 19, 2013, 12:42:01 PM
It's all about the training. If you put the miles in, you can do it.
the hard part imo is trying to hit a certain time.
Yeah, similar to what you stated earlier, my first(only?) time will be all about finishing.
I logged 382 training miles which seems like a lot now, but each week was easy to deal with.
I know I have a better Marathon in me and I'll find out in May.
2 halves planned for the Spring which should help with speed pacing.
Quote from: Augustus on November 19, 2013, 02:55:10 PM
I logged 382 training miles which seems like a lot now, but each week was easy to deal with.
I know I have a better Marathon in me and I'll find out in May.
2 halves planned for the Spring which should help with speed pacing.
sounds like a great idea
the frustrating thing for me is that I've run 4 and because of poor strategy, I don't think I did as well as I could have.
Sounds like a good reason to start training ;)
yea
I just can't get motivated for the 14 mile + training runs
(at heart, I guess I'm a wuss)
Quote from: slslbs on November 19, 2013, 08:02:01 PM
yea
I just can't get motivated for the 14 mile + training runs
(at heart, I guess I'm a wuss)
When else will you catch up on 3.0?!
Obliterated my Turkey Trot 5k this AM in 21:30/6:56p.
Finished 25th overall!
Boo ya!
Quote from: Augustus on November 28, 2013, 10:35:23 AM
Obliterated my Turkey Trot 5k this AM in 21:30/6:56p.
Finished 25th overall!
Boo ya!
great run, Congrats!!
:beers:
I used to be able to do that
22:41, 7:19 pace, 7th for age
I clearly need to run more to get my times back where they were
That was today's race time?
yes
Sweet!
Great job!
Quote from: slslbs on November 28, 2013, 01:31:59 PM
Quote from: Augustus on November 28, 2013, 10:35:23 AM
Obliterated my Turkey Trot 5k this AM in 21:30/6:56p.
Finished 25th overall!
Boo ya!
great run, Congrats!!
:beers:
I used to be able to do that
22:41, 7:19 pace, 7th for age
I clearly need to run more to get my times back where they were
Feaster 5? Nice job. My wife ran the 5 mile race this morning in 47+ minutes. A best for her.
nice
it's a fun (and cold) day
did your daughter run?
the guy that won the 5m was on the Olympic 5K team
Nice, Bird.
The dude that won where we used to live in Oyster Bay won in just over 14 this AM.
Kenyan.
some people are just born different
I forget the Olympian's time, but pace was in the 4:50s
at least I finished 5K before he finished 5m :-P
(actually, 8K, but still...)
Started running to and from work, it's 6.5km downhill to work and obviously uphill home.
It's a challenge, but it's great to incorporate exercise into commuting, because just riding my bike 6.5km wasn't really a challenge.
Nice, dude!
Sign up for something.
My uncle is one of the forefathers of ultra-running. The guy is a machine. He just finished his 14th or 15th IronMan in Mexico on Thanksgiving and is going to Kona next. Guy is over 60....He does all these crazy 100 mile runs and last year ran from one rim of the Grand Canyon to the other rim, and then back to the first. He's insane. When I mountain bike or cycle with him, I can't keep up at all. I am not sure how fast he is, but from his FB posts I know that his PR for 8K is 25 minutes and his PR for a 50 miler is 5.5 hours which seems insane to me, but I have no idea really how fast that is.....Here he is on the cover of some old magazine about ultra running....
Dude, 50 miles/5.5 hours?...
6.6 minutes/mile
6:36/mile.
Fifty times.
In a row,
without stopping.
:-o
:crazy:
In - fucking - sane
Quote from: slslbs on December 13, 2013, 03:35:23 PM
In - fucking - sane
HOLY SHIT!!!!!
that's absolutely wild.
Quiet Winter 'round here, y'all!
Just recently started a 16wk program.
It's tough getting out in this cold, but I do.
Layers....
Got a nice schedule through the Spring lined up.
02/23 Central Park Half Marathon
03/22 Sleepy Hollow Half Marathon
05/04 Long Island Marathon
05/18 Dirty German 50k Philly, PA
05/25 Long Beach (NY) 10 Mile Trophy Run
Busy May.
What does everyone have going on?
There is a Wellness Centre at my new job ($60 per year!) where you can book the exercise machines. I've been booking 30 minutes 4x/week and doing high intensity runs at lunch.
When the weather warms up I'll be biking to work and running at lunch, while occasionally running the 6km to and from work. I'm all about built in exercise.
At some point I'll start doing longer runs on the weekend with an eye to do a 10K in May, Half in June or July and maybe a full in the Fall.
Nice!
I'd be looking forward to work.
Quote from: Augustus on January 22, 2014, 02:56:30 PM
Quiet Winter 'round here, y'all!
Just recently started a 16wk program.
It's tough getting out in this cold, but I do.
Layers....
Got a nice schedule through the Spring lined up.
02/23 Central Park Half Marathon
03/22 Sleepy Hollow Half Marathon
05/04 Long Island Marathon
05/18 Dirty German 50k Philly, PA
05/25 Long Beach (NY) 10 Mile Trophy Run
Busy May.
What does everyone have going on?
:-o
Yeah, it's actually encouraged that we be active during the day - so even though I feel guilty for sneaking off and hitting the treadmill my co-workers seem to think it makes me a better employee.
Nice. I might have to hit a treadmill on Thursday morning.
Gonna be cold, cold, cold....
If I wasn't training for that Philly race, I might have considered Burlington, sunrise.
I've been running again sine the New Year, nothing crazy but nice to get back in the swing of things.
Aug, you don't do anything half ass, do ya? That is one hell of a schedule.
Nice, dude!
My wife and I have been doing some all-fit type stuff together at the gym and it's been great. But I actually did my 5 mile loop the other day for the first time in quite a while. I am sore as hell! Once this snow melts, I'm going to get back into running full time in hopes of running my first full this fall.
Get some!
Ran a great half in Central Park this morning.
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/B6734BB0-952B-4D08-91B8-F1E6DA3E9FDF_zpsgyoldkfv.png)
Pretty pumped!
Now back to our regularly-scheduled marathon training ;)
just a walk in park, eh? 8-)
Pretty much!
I did smell some sweet nuggs being puffed twice along the course.
Good 'ol NYC!
Quote from: Augustus on February 23, 2014, 07:46:01 PM
Pretty much!
I did smell some sweet nuggs being puffed twice along the course.
Good 'ol NYC!
that's awesome. I'm often smelling nugs on my runs. My 400m runs would be killer if it wasn't for those odors.
Ha! I was cranking Phish, so it was fitting.
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Awesome stuff right there.
nice work
:rawk:
Quote from: Augustus on February 23, 2014, 07:46:01 PM
Pretty much!
I did smell some sweet nuggs being puffed twice along the course.
Good 'ol NYC!
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Yeah, in line for the 5k fun run at Superball IX, we had to wait like 45 minutes while they coordinated for one of those big group photos, taken from a crane above us... I got baked up by 2 different fellow athletes. Made for a very mellow run. Good times.
Nice!
Whatchall runnin from?
Quote from: sunrisevt on February 25, 2014, 01:26:02 PM
Quote from: Augustus on February 23, 2014, 07:46:01 PM
Pretty much!
I did smell some sweet nuggs being puffed twice along the course.
Good 'ol NYC!
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Yeah, in line for the 5k fun run at Superball IX, we had to wait like 45 minutes while they coordinated for one of those big group photos, taken from a crane above us... I got baked up by 2 different fellow athletes. Made for a very mellow run. Good times.
superball 5k was the most fun run i've ever done, and I was pepped up on nugs and Jack Daniels.
Registration just opened for the Philly Marathon in November.
Just signed up!
If anyone else wants in, they discount the first 1,000 entries.
Amazing course and such a well-run race.
Sure my FB friends saw this all morning, but I won my Division earlier in a 5k race.
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Pretty pumped as I was just trying to place.
Beers!
Attaboy!
Nice! :clap:
:beers:
Beers!
I beat EVERY female today!
Eat it, ladies!
Aug drinks beer and beats females?
Quote from: PG on April 06, 2014, 02:28:20 PM
Aug drinks beer and beats females?
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Sure do.
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
:beers:
Nice work Aug :beers:
I know Matt is training for his 30k this Summer...anyone else have a race lined up?
Speaking of which, while running 30K, I'm also raising money for the SickKids Rheumatology program and I'm almost at my goal...
https://www.sickkidsdonations.com/registrant/FundraisingPage.aspx?registrationID=2205073&langPref=en-CA
Quote from: mattstick on April 07, 2014, 02:31:56 PM
Speaking of which, while running 30K, I'm also raising money for the SickKids Rheumatology program and I'm almost at my goal...
https://www.sickkidsdonations.com/registrant/FundraisingPage.aspx?registrationID=2205073&langPref=en-CA
Just tried twice to kick a ten spot.
Easier to just PP you the loot?
Apparently, donating to a Canadian charity alerts the Wells Fargo fraud dept.!
Let me know if it goes through.
Nice. I don't see anything yet, but it may not be immediate. Thanks!
Be sure to LMK if you're ever fundraising for a race.
Yeah, I wanna run NYC.
Only need to raise $4,500. :wink:
NYC is such a money race.
Even if you get in through the lotto, it's around $260.
Otherwise, you qualify through a number of paid races or raise money for a charity.
Philly (2 weeks later) cost me $85 after fees.
LI is around $60.
It's crazy that they get so much.
:end NYC Marathon rant:
Good luck with your training!
Most races full marathon's here are close to $100. Obviously I'm not privy to all their expenses, but they seem like a cash grab.
I know you've ran the Ottawa before, but I was looking at some pics of that course and it looks Badass.
Would love to run it one day.
Ottawa Marathon is great, the city really gets into it, lots of people cheering in the streets.
For the Toronto Waterfront Marathon you're more likely to have people yelling at you, pissed that a street is closed.
Late to the party, but Congrats on the Win Aub
:beers:
Thanks, Steb!
Very smooth 20 miler in the books.
Now, we taper!
I'm still tweaking my race day nutrition and might have found a great pairing with dried exotic fruits and a mix of 1/2 Vita Coco water and 1/2 electro lite water.
Been getting bogged down on the Clif BLOX (I also hate Gu), so the dried fruit is a welcome addition.
Enough tweaking, race is 3 weeks out!
What do y'all use for race nutrition?
I mix the gels into my water. I dig the gels with caffeine, it may not be a real perk but I get a mental edge from coffee flavour for some reason.
I also like 1/2 water 1/2 pineapple juice.
Nice!
The caffeinated beans do something to me that I just don't like when I'm running.
Some good tips here:
http://edge.si.com/edge/2014/04/17/12-things-never-do-marathon
Good guidelines for those floating without a routine.
Had my last "long" 12 yesterday and only have a few 4 and 3's left with a 7 and 5.
Playlist is set and I'm pretty damn ready.
The 2 halves I raced in during this training really helped with my mental issues (crunching numbers, worrying about pace) and I've cut my pace down significantly to try and help with going out too fast.
Stoked!
Hydration and sleep in the week leading up are the big takeaways there.
For sure.
I'm big on carbo loading throughout the week before a race, but I honestly can't stomach a huge, carb-heavy meal the night before.
For Ottawa I tried this technique where you eat no carbs 2 weeks before your race, then on race week eat only carbs.
The "science" here is that your body starts to crave carbs and then starts to conserve them, then you hit it with lots of carbs.
I can't say I've ever really noticed an impact of what I ate the night before running...
My 30K is in the evening, which presents it's own challenges.
Me and JPhishman's friend Sarah Horn finished the Boston Marathon today with a time of 3:03. She came in 170th for women. That is a pace of 7:00/mile. I don;t know about you guys, but I'm impressed. That's a good time, right?
Quote from: Augustus on April 14, 2014, 04:26:33 PM
Been getting bogged down on the Clif BLOX (I also hate Gu), so the dried fruit is a welcome addition.
Enough tweaking, race is 3 weeks out!
What do y'all use for race nutrition?
I'm not a runner, but I am a big fan of Gu for cycling. I only like to do the ones with caffeine in the morning (just one), caffeine bugs me out when I am racing, makes me feel weird. I'll do a cup of coffee before and maybe one caffeinated gel. Otherwise I do a Gu pack every 45-60 minutes and if it is 3-4 hour ride, I like the clif blocks ok (strawberry.) I also do one plain water and one Gu drink in my bottles. The drink and the gels give instant/quick acting burst for me, but sometimes I need something more solid so I will do blocks or even a reg cliff bar (just a piece, not a whole one). ANyway, that's in cycling so it might not apply to running. Sports beans are good too....Hammer heed makes me want to barf....
Quote from: Caravan2001 on April 21, 2014, 11:39:03 PM
Me and JPhishman's friend Sarah Horn finished the Boston Marathon today with a time of 3:03. She came in 170th for women. That is a pace of 7:00/mile. I don;t know about you guys, but I'm impressed. That's a good time, right?
Well done by both of you. Can't believe an American man won today.
Yeah, 7 min pace is badass!
That's a great finish time.
I tend to avoid caffeine before/during any race longer than 10 miles, but I will have coffee before training runs that are shorter than 15 miles.
It's weird, but race day produces the butterflies and the last thing you want is any GI issues to mess with all of your training.
Quote from: Caravan2001 on April 21, 2014, 11:39:03 PM
Me and JPhishman's friend Sarah Horn finished the Boston Marathon today with a time of 3:03. She came in 170th for women. That is a pace of 7:00/mile. I don;t know about you guys, but I'm impressed. That's a good time, right?
Awesome time!
As far as caffiene goes, I'm a regular coffee drinker (addict) so I always have a cup about an hour before a race. I wouldn't recommend it to someone who wasn't used to caffiene. I avoided the caffeinated gu / gel when I was doing marathons.
Because I was in NOLA last weekend and I have to work this weekend I pushed my Sunday runs unto Wednesdays for the next couple weeks... Just ran 11km on my lunch hour, work is feel in' easy breezy this afternoon as a result.
Best of luck tomorrow Aug (LI marathon iirc)
Quote from: slslbs on May 03, 2014, 09:28:54 AM
Best of luck tomorrow Aug (LI marathon iirc)
Hanging out with Politicians and shit on a Sunday! Good Luck!
Thanks guys!
Feeling pretty good.
DNF.
Felt all sorts of fucked up after the half.
Ran 19 and called it.
I'm straight hurt.
Quote from: Augustus on May 04, 2014, 11:46:43 AM
DNF.
Felt all sorts of fucked up after the half.
Ran 19 and called it.
I'm straight hurt.
Oh man....hope you're ok. Hang in there.
nice try though!
(http://i.imgur.com/jTZkU10.gif)
don't worry about it.
sometimes you just have a bad day
my 1st marathon Bill Rodgers was a DNF
good effort Aug.
no need to push and really hurt yourself.
Thanks, guys.
Back to the grind.
no shame in that game
I didn't sign up for a 19 miler! ;)
I'm almost over it.
Got another race in 2 weeks.
Legs feel pretty good right now.
Great bounce back race today from my DNF three weeks ago.
Long Beach 10 Miler is super flat and runs alongside the Atlantic for a great stretch.
Almost too sunny, but it wasn't raining and it was nowhere as windy as last year.
Looking for a sub-80 and cranked out a 1:19:07.
Stoked!
My half time splits were off by one second!
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Really needed a good race today and I'm happy with my performance.
Let's drink!
Great pic!!!!!
My wife rocks!
Also, running an 8K next weekend that I'd like to place in.
Is this a normal racing distance outside of the US?
What were you listening to?
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on May 25, 2014, 11:42:22 AM
What were you listening to?
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+ Us V Them, Home & Yeah.
8-)
Quote from: Augustus on May 25, 2014, 11:29:01 AM
Also, running an 8K next weekend that I'd like to place in.
Is this a normal racing distance outside of the US?
There is a popular 8K annually in Toronto. I smoked it in 2009.
Nice work Aug. :beers:
Quote from: mattstick on May 25, 2014, 12:20:05 PM
Quote from: Augustus on May 25, 2014, 11:29:01 AM
Also, running an 8K next weekend that I'd like to place in.
Is this a normal racing distance outside of the US?
There is a popular 8K annually in Toronto. I smoked it in 2009.
Nice!
I've never seen one close so I'd figure it would be a nice follow up to a 10M.
You run a 37?
good job Aug :beers:
Quote from: Augustus on May 25, 2014, 12:47:57 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 25, 2014, 12:20:05 PM
Quote from: Augustus on May 25, 2014, 11:29:01 AM
Also, running an 8K next weekend that I'd like to place in.
Is this a normal racing distance outside of the US?
There is a popular 8K annually in Toronto. I smoked it in 2009.
Nice!
I've never seen one close so I'd figure it would be a nice follow up to a 10M.
You run a 37?
35:43 brah
Whoa! Sweet time!
Great 8k race this morning. Tough course/runners.
44th overall. 7th in age division.
Official time of 34:56/7:01p.
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Bit of a rest from racing until September, but marathon training starts up in another 7-10 days.
nice!!
good luck with training
if you like the distance, our Thanksgiving Day "Feaster Five" is a 5K / 8K (metric 5 mile)
Running a training half-marathon after work. Not stoked but trying to be.
Ever listen to Dark Side Of The Moon while running? It's an amazing experience.
Quote from: mattstick on June 19, 2014, 11:03:21 AM
Running a training half-marathon after work. Not stoked but trying to be.
Ever listen to Dark Side Of The Moon while running? It's an amazing experience.
Yes and Yes it is!
Anyone have any suggestions for getting over Plantar Fasciitis? I've rested now for a month and had my poor wife massage it and it doesn't seem to be making a difference. I'm extremely frustrated.
Have you tried that sick thing?
Are you running a half at half pace or LSD style?
Either way, Fuego first listen will be nice.
I love hearing new albums for the first time on a run.
LSD style. 10s/1s etc... I'm thinking 1:55:00? I'm a bit worried about getting lost too because I improv'd the route on mapmyrun last night and I'm already forgetting a segment.
Let the Winterqueen be your guide.
Listened to way more of Blood Sugar Sex Majik than I had hoped.
I finished though. Running after work is tough.
Nice job, dude.
Quote from: antelope19 on June 19, 2014, 11:09:15 AM
Quote from: mattstick on June 19, 2014, 11:03:21 AM
Running a training half-marathon after work. Not stoked but trying to be.
Ever listen to Dark Side Of The Moon while running? It's an amazing experience.
Yes and Yes it is!
Anyone have any suggestions for getting over Plantar Fasciitis? I've rested now for a month and had my poor wife massage it and it doesn't seem to be making a difference. I'm extremely frustrated.
stretch
stretch
you can try the Strasbourg sock. It holds your foot flexed when your sleeping so the calf muscles stay extendid. running stores should have it.
also check your mechanics - you might wind up needing orthotics
Ran a Fourth of July 4 miler this morning. Finished in 27:27/6:52p which was a little better than my 28 minute goal time.
Last race for me in the 30/34 Division!
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Quote from: slslbs on June 20, 2014, 03:50:11 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on June 19, 2014, 11:09:15 AM
Quote from: mattstick on June 19, 2014, 11:03:21 AM
Running a training half-marathon after work. Not stoked but trying to be.
Ever listen to Dark Side Of The Moon while running? It's an amazing experience.
Yes and Yes it is!
Anyone have any suggestions for getting over Plantar Fasciitis? I've rested now for a month and had my poor wife massage it and it doesn't seem to be making a difference. I'm extremely frustrated.
stretch
stretch
you can try the Strasbourg sock. It holds your foot flexed when your sleeping so the calf muscles stay extendid. running stores should have it.
also check your mechanics - you might wind up needing orthotics
Single leg calf raises help build a lot of lower leg strength. Doing them with your shoes off can also help with toe flexibility and strength as well.
My wife and I ran 5 this morning with our oldest 2 kids on their bikes for the first time. The 7 year old did great, but the 5 year old struggled a bit. Was still a fun outing
Quote from: Augustus on July 04, 2014, 10:05:18 AM
Ran a Fourth of July 4 miler this morning. Finished in 27:27/6:52p which was a little better than my 28 minute goal time.
Last race for me in the 30/34 Division!
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Nice work
:beers:
Doing my long run at 1:30pm today, got SPAC highlights queued up, current status: not stoked.
Good luck, 23 km sounds no bueno to me.
SPAC highlights?
Jerry Garcia run in Cambridge last night
5K
21:39 (6:59)
only running about 15m /week, so pretty happy with that.
all followed by grilled chicken/ bbq pork dinner, free Harpoon IPA on tap, and dancing to Playin' Dead, a pretty good local cover band.
The "fake Bobby" apparently used to play the same part in DSO
and he wore short cut offs.
overall, a fun night
Awesome job!
Sounds like a sweet race!
Currently on day 10 of rest and kinda losing my mind.
Pulled/fractured something in my foot on a 14 miler.
Not sure how, but it's slowly getting better.
Wasn't planning on taking 2 wks off from training but I really have no choice.
Stir crazy!!!!?
yea, it's a blast. they have a music themed series all summer long. We always make the JG race
sucks about your foot.
If you want / need to do something - swimming and water running got me through a pulled groin a few years ago
I've been having a lot of trouble on my long runs. Cramping, upset stomach, exhaustion.
Decided to drop down from the 30k and run the 15k in 2 weeks.
More daily runs, more hills, more yoga and I will try to build up distance again in the fall.
I learned to cut tomato sauce in the two days prior to anything over 10 miles.
Also, switched from BLOX to dried fruit for fuel and haven't had much GI troubles since.
Summer sucks for training hard.
Maybe eye a good Fall half or full.
Race day. Feeling weird about it, should be fine tho
20k?
Good luck, dude!
Quote from: Augustus on August 16, 2014, 11:40:01 AM
20k?
Good luck, dude!
15K only! Gonna try and do a sub 1-hr 10K then cruise the last 5.
Go get 'em!
Had a great race. Beat that 90 minute goal by several minutes. Finished ~ 1:25
Good Work!
Congrats!
great job
Congrats dude! :beers:
I followed the 1:30 pace bunny from the start until about 9km, just before that mark I looked at my watch and realized we were about 2 minutes ahead of pace and I was feeling pretty good.
At the 9km water station I got out in front of the pace bunny and the 1:30 pack, legs were feeling good so I stayed out in front and started to push. Hamilton 90 Scarlet > Fire kicked in and I really felt good. By the time Fire on the Mountain was finishing I could see the 1:25 pace bunny. I probably left a little in the tank because I didn't push it over the final km as some of the other people around me did.
It felt really good to race again, I'd forgotten the feeling of being out there with the other athletes and pushing yourself.
I was recently told by a chiropractor that consistantly running over 10km will lead to knee and hip complications later in life... not really sure how to feel about that, but I've decided to focus on some shorter distance runs for the remainder of the year.
My next race is the "Rail Path Run" which is a 45-minute race along a 2.1km loop, do as many loops as you can.
Then a month after that I'm doing the Blue Mountains 10km up in cottage country, for something a little different.
Nice work!
lolz
"Long distance ruuuuunner"
so after taking most of the summer off because of a strenuous soccer season, i'm back to running!
not starting out so well... its fucking hot & humid here right now (heat index was 93 on sunday for my last run).
i think i decided in the spring that my preferred mileage is about 7 miles... thoughts?
should i push myself? i can def get to double digits, but i found myself not enjoing my runs when i did that... i'd prefer to enjoy myself when running since i'm not doing it for any other reason.
Depends what your goals are.
If you're just running to blow off steam and get some great cardio, then 7 is more than suitable.
If you feel like you want to experience the race vibe (have you ever?), then maybe sign up for a 10k and smoke some fools!
agree. 7 is a nice run
no need to push yourself with distance, especially if you're not having fun.
if you wanted to push yourself but didn't want to go longer, go shorter and do some speed (tempo, fartlek, intervals)
I've always ignored this thread... and I'm still not gonna start running.... but I've been swimming 4 days a week since the start of August. It feels good to get the machine going again. It's been about 10 years since I really even tried to do any real exercise.
Anyway, my neighborhood pool just closed for the season so I've been going to one of the big pools downtown. It's nice, but it's not sustainable if and when I get another job.
So, I think I'm going to join a Masters Team that practices at the JCC right near my house. It's an outdoor pool, but it's heated so they practice year-round. It'll be good to have a coach to guide my workouts!
Quote from: PG on August 26, 2014, 01:30:00 PM
I've always ignored this thread... and I'm still not gonna start running.... but I've been swimming 4 days a week since the start of August. It feels good to get the machine going again. It's been about 10 years since I really even tried to do any real exercise.
Anyway, my neighborhood pool just closed for the season so I've been going to one of the big pools downtown. It's nice, but it's not sustainable if and when I get another job.
So, I think I'm going to join a Masters Team that practices at the JCC right near my house. It's an outdoor pool, but it's heated so they practice year-round. It'll be good to have a coach to guide my workouts!
Love swimming, beats any run I've ever done for full body workout.
Keep it up PG, won't recognize ya the next time I see you.
Swimming thread is that way, Spry >>>>>
You know how you know you're in the wrong thread?
When you've never heard of Fartlek.
THAT WAY >>>>>??
::drops wet pool farts in thread::
'magine if you ran and rode too?
Tri Guy
Quote from: Augustus on August 26, 2014, 04:30:13 PM
'magine if you ran and rode too?
Tri Guy
not gonna happen.
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
love you guys
haha... you people are funny!
Quote from: Augustus on August 26, 2014, 04:27:20 PM
You know how you know you're in the wrong thread?
When you've never heard of Fartlek.
THAT WAY >>>>>??
Hangs head in shame. :shakehead:
put in 5.6 miles tonight... getting back into the swing
"Easiest" 20 of my life this AM @ 8:57p.
My injured running buddy paced me on her bike to a sub-3.
So much easier in many aspects to have a talking pace going and just have the miles fly by.
Handed off my nutrition (dried fruit and Fritos) every 4 miles and switched out my bottle at 11.
The taper begins NOW!!
Quote from: Augustus on September 07, 2014, 01:47:06 PM
"Easiest" 20 of my life this AM @ 8:57p.
My injured running buddy paced me on her bike to a sub-3.
So much easier in many aspects to have a talking pace going and just have the miles fly by.
Handed off my nutrition (dried fruit and Fritos) every 4 miles and switched out my bottle at 11.
The taper begins NOW!!
always the consummate professional
I'm just waiting for my Jedi 10+ post.
I'll cheer the shit out of that!
Pro training.
Thanks, guys.
Feeling strong/healthy ATM.
Hoping for a solid run in 3 weeks and an even better run 7 weeks after that.
Then looking for a month of rest!
Quote from: Augustus on September 07, 2014, 03:42:23 PM
I'm just waiting for my Jedi 10+ post.
I'll cheer the shit out of that!
yeah, i really gotta get back in the swing of things again... fall running is perfect running though!
I hear that.
Today was the first low humidity day in weeks.
In been straight swampy for way too long out here!
nice
good luck
Loving my work run club. We meet at noon on Tuesday and Thursday, run somewhere between 5.5 and 7km, back at my desk after a shower by 1pm.
Decided I need more running clothes so I went all custy and bought this:
http://drygoods.phish.com/Product.aspx?cp=773_1428&pc=PHCT764
Nice!
(About the running club)
really struggling to get back in the groove with my runs...
i've run twice in the last week, and neither was really that good of a run... pace was good (sub 8 min), but i didn't feel right on either, wasn't enjoying them, and actually ended up stopping early last night. not really sure what it is either.
Just keep heading out.
Maybe switch up your routine.
Run with/without music. Change your route.
Head out with a goal distance or time and don't stop until you hit it.
Ruts happen.
Great 10k this AM on the challenging Cow Harbor course.
Out of the top 20 finishers, half train in CO.
Hit my goal of sub-46 and now I'm one week out from the Yonkers Marathon.
Just a few 2s and 3s left!
(Peep the awesome bib number)
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Fast!
Thanks!
Also won a cooler and $50 GC in the raffle!
Chyeah!
Nice. ( x2)
well done Auggie!
Thanks, guys!
Been working through some knee pain as of late, so I'm happy the way yesterday went.
Achieved my goal and felt only slight discomfort early on a really long downhill.
Sunday is my return to the Marathon distance and I'm really excited despite getting a DNF at my last.
Training has been great. Playlist is set and I'm feeling pretty strong.
I honestly have no goal time for this one, just looking for a DF and to treat it as a hilly long run for Philly this November.
Getting some crisp weather out here! How's it going with everyone else?
Swam 3000 yards yesterday and 2800 today... Today included about 800 pulling with paddles, which is basically strength training. I'm very sore.
I'm down over 30lbs from the start, though! I have about 25 lbs to go before I'm where I need to be.. then I can start eating to fuel the swims like a normal person does.
eta: I know... swimming thread that way --->
Nice work, SG!
Damn, losing 30lbs is impressive. WTG.
Holy shit PG, we're not gonna recognize ya.
Well done. :clap:
Thanks, y'all. I weighed in at 223.1 today. Sadly, that's 31.1 lbs lost since I started this on August 8th. Do the math... I was a fat-ass!!
Spry guy, FTW!
Nice work
:beers:
we normally don't let swimmers here, but will make an exception for you
:wink:
Quote from: PG on September 22, 2014, 11:43:29 AM
Swam 3000 yards yesterday and 2800 today... Today included about 800 pulling with paddles, which is basically strength training. I'm very sore.
I'm down over 30lbs from the start, though! I have about 25 lbs to go before I'm where I need to be.. then I can start eating to fuel the swims like a normal person does.
eta: I know... swimming thread that way --->
dude thats huge! well done!
Whew!
Tough course today and ran my PW of a 4:33 :lol:
Glad I finished, but it was a bad race for me.
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Philly is 8 wks away which will probably be my last full for a while.
I'm good at shorter distances, but the Marathon eats me up.
Beer!
A PW! That's a lotta marathons, you can't be up for all of them.
I ran the Rail Path Run, 45 minutes, run as many KMs as you can. I finished 8km with about 2 minutes left, so either I needed to run slower or faster...
Had a fun time though, nice small race.
Nice!
That's a cool race concept.
Kinda like the 72 hour track race they do in the Summer.
Anyone here wanna run 135 miles on an indoor track?
Quote from: Augustus on September 28, 2014, 04:03:37 PM
Nice!
That's a cool race concept.
Kinda like the 72 hour track race they do in the Summer.
Anyone here wanna run 135 miles on an indoor track?
interesting ...
Quote from: Augustus on September 28, 2014, 04:03:37 PM
Nice!
That's a cool race concept.
Kinda like the 72 hour track race they do in the Summer.
Anyone here wanna run 135 miles on an indoor track?
let me think a minute
no.
btw nice job on the marathon
:beers:
Been training for Philly on 11-23 and got a great opportunity today to run NYC in two weeks.
NYC works well with my program (was slated for 20 that day and ran 26 four wks ago).
Ran an effortless 18 last week and have been doing a bunch of midweek mid-7 medium runs (7-8).
Mutual friend decided not to run as his training has been thin, so I'm gonna scoop it from him (hopefully he doesn't back out!)
Not that bummed about running under someone else's bib and am actually really stoked to check NYC off the list!
I feel a good race in me!
So my buddy finished 140.7 km in 34:48 a couple of weeks back. He's been pretty hardcore for awhile now. Runs 30 km every day for a joke.
The crazy part about this is it was done on some of the wildest terrain in the province. Multiple elevations, rocks, streams, sand, etc., dude is a machine.
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Bad ass!
If you've seen my tweets, I've recently switched my endurance fuel to Tailwind Nutrition.
It basically replaces your Gü/BLOX/caps and really helps with having to carry extraneous fuel on long runs and Marathons.
I use the "naked" flavor (which still has a slight sweet taste to it) as I hate the stickiness that my mouth feels after sipping Gatorade.
You mix a packet into your water and you'll get your electrolytes and 200 cals.
Been using it on medium distances but used it on a 20 miler today and felt zero fatigue.
Super even pace throughout and prolly my fastest 20 training run to date. In insane winds, too
It's a new product, but I'm really liking it.
If y'all plan on going long (running, cycling, bears), I'd try it out for yourself.
do you just pour it into the cup during races?
Quote from: slslbs on November 02, 2014, 05:24:50 PM
do you just pour it into the cup during races?
I premixed into a 20 oz. bottle.
And that was all the hydration/nutrition I needed for 20 miles.
The packets are small enough thatif you want to carry one during a Marathon, it would be easy to tear it open and refill your bottle at an aid station.
Today was cold, so I generally sip one ounce each mile.
I can see needing more for hotter days, tho.
Also, huge breakthrough yesterday.
Didn't look at my watch and set my app to 15 minutes with no other feedback.
So instead of getting pace/overall pace/time at every mile, I just got a chime of "15 minutes completed".
Set out for 3 hrs and just enjoyed every minute of it.
This is gonna be my plan for Philly in 3 wks.
No feedback. Just run my race.
Quote from: Augustus on November 03, 2014, 10:34:04 AM
Also, huge breakthrough yesterday.
Didn't look at my watch and set my app to 15 minutes with no other feedback.
So instead of getting pace/overall pace/time at every mile, I just got a chime of "15 minutes completed".
Set out for 3 hrs and just enjoyed every minute of it.
This is gonna be my plan for Philly in 3 wks.
No feedback. Just run my race.
thats a great plan!
back a few years ago, i had been hot n heavy with the running, becoming more and more obsessed with splits and pace and mileage... and then one day i realized i no longer enjoyed my runs.. i didn't look forward to them, in fact, dreaded them, and generally hated it when i was running.
so i quit using the nike app, and just went running.... and i fell in love with running again!
so kudos to you for looking at it again, and just running!
Nice!
I hear ya about splits.
You become obsessed and while it can help, it does detract from the enjoyment of running.
agreed.
unless I'm training for a race, I rarely run with a watch
Hey Aug - Good luck in Philly!!!!
:beers:
:beerbang:
:rawk:
Quote from: slslbs on November 22, 2014, 04:49:23 PM
Hey Aug - Good luck in Philly!!!!
:beers:
:beerbang:
:rawk:
Yeah, this.
Pretty that cool people can track his progress (not that I'm doing that).
But you should!
Text PHIMAR 2874 to 72147
Thanks, guys!
Feeling pretty good about tomorrow.
Had a great race today in Philly and set a new PR with a 3:47.
Super pumped and super sore!
Gonna go eat and celebrate in a bit.
5k on Thanksgiving morning is up next.
Trying to at least place, but we'll see what my legs say about all that.
Quote from: Augustus on November 23, 2014, 12:07:43 PM
Had a great race today in Philly and set a new PR with a 3:47.
Super pumped and super sore!
Gonna go eat and celebrate in a bit.
5k on Thanksgiving morning is up next.
Trying to at least place, but we'll see what my legs say about all that.
:beers: :beerbang: :beers:
Awesome
Great job!!
:clap: :clap:
Personally, I would go easy Thursday, but then I'm old
Well done, sir.
In PGLHAH news: I'm officially down 50 lbs this morning. Pretty shocking number... Not that I'm down that much, just that I was up enough that I could lose 50 and still be overweight (which I defitely am).
Next milestone will be getting down under 2 bills. Soon. Very soon.
nice job!
Thanks, y'all!
Not sure what my plan is for Thurs, but I'm resting until then.
Hopefully the legs will feel fresh enough for a sub-21.
Nice work, PG!
Keep it up! And off!
Quote from: PGLHAH on November 23, 2014, 02:10:48 PM
Well done, sir.
In PGLHAH news: I'm officially down 50 lbs this morning. Pretty shocking number... Not that I'm down that much, just that I was up enough that I could lose 50 and still be overweight (which I defitely am).
Next milestone will be getting down under 2 bills. Soon. Very soon.
nice work
Way to go august. You look really happy all the time!
And PG, you are one sexy beast.
Quote from: PGLHAH on November 23, 2014, 02:10:48 PM
Well done, sir.
In PGLHAH news: I'm officially down 50 lbs this morning. Pretty shocking number... Not that I'm down that much, just that I was up enough that I could lose 50 and still be overweight (which I defitely am).
Next milestone will be getting down under 2 bills. Soon. Very soon.
Sweet dude....Go pick up something that's 50lbs and imagine you were carrying that all over the place all the time. It's insane. Good for you.
That's kinda fucked up. I just carried upstairs a 25 lb bag of dog food and that shit was heavy. I carried around two of those for how long?
Yeah, man.
Even holding a ten pound plate or something and you can only think of the effects it has on your knees/back.
You'll be beach body ready in no time.
Awesome stuff all around in here. :clap:
New 5k PR this morning.
20:10/6:29p
2nd in AG and 17th overall!
Stoked!
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Attaboy! Can't believe you just ran a marathon 4 days ago.
Quote from: PGLHAH on November 27, 2014, 11:19:34 AM
Attaboy! Can't believe you just ran a marathon 4 days ago.
Same here!
Nice work again Aug! :beers:
Quote from: PGLHAH on November 27, 2014, 11:19:34 AM
Attaboy! Can't believe you just ran a marathon 4 days ago.
unreal job
congrats
:beers:
as for me 22:53, 7:22 pace, 6th for age
getting older, running less, and having a cold takes it's toll.
Oddly enough, even though I'm over 40 sec per mile slower than I was in my 40s, age grouping for big races is about the same (or better)
Awesome job!
At least you're still out there!
But that's a great time at any age!
You'd have me beat I'm sure sls.
Updated results from yesterday!
They gave me the wrong medal 'cause I came in 1st place!
That's two consecutive 5k races that I came in 1st.... 8-)
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Top 2%!
Congrats
:beers: :beers:
eta - good thing you ignored my post about taking it easy
No stop signs!
Any of you d00ds run with bluetooth/wireless headphones?
Quote from: mattstick on December 01, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
Any of you d00ds run with bluetooth/wireless headphones?
I don't own a pair but I've borrowed a friend's a few times...some type of Motorola I think. Really sweet headphones but not sweet enough to make me go out and buy a pair
I don't but I am getting tempted to buy a Bluetooth GPS watch and then I'll need to do some earbud research.
I bought some $25 ones on Amazon this morning, I'll report back.
Are they still available?
http://www.amazon.com/Bluedio-S2-headphones-generation-Retail-Gift/dp/B00J9A13VC
Uhhhhhh....I'll wait for your review!
Officially signed up for my first Ultramarathon!
I'll be running the Dirty German 50k in Philly this May.
Training will be fun with a lot of timed runs and I've made my own schedule based heavily around this program.
http://cdn.running.competitor.com/files/2012/11/46_nat_r1.pdf
First half of 2015 is pretty solid with a 10 miler, two half marathons, 25k trail race and now this Ultra.
Let's train!
Quote from: Augustus on December 21, 2014, 11:17:19 AM
Officially signed up for my first Ultramarathon!
I'll be running the Dirty German 50k in Philly this May.
Training will be fun with a lot of timed runs and I've made my own schedule based heavily around this program.
http://cdn.running.competitor.com/files/2012/11/46_nat_r1.pdf
First half of 2015 is pretty solid with a 10 miler, two half marathons, 25k trail race and now this Ultra.
Let's train!
That's nuts! Makes the 3000 yards I just finished swimming seem paltry.
Nice work!
It's an easy intro into 50k trail running and I now have an official bucket list race....The Gorge 50km in Oregon.
Hopefully I can get into next year's race, so the training starts now.
Take 6 minutes and enjoy this amazing video.
http://vimeo.com/66273634
You might be crazy dude.
Quote from: mattstick on December 21, 2014, 01:18:36 PM
You might be crazy dude.
Ever see/hear the Ben Gibbard interview on the Ginger Runner?
Dude has run a ton of Ultras. And he's pretty fast!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h8T9lgCqgk
great looking course
50 K - well, not that much farther than a marathon.
should be fun
See! That's my attitude as well!
Quote from: Augustus on December 21, 2014, 03:14:07 PM
See! That's my attitude as well!
I just think of 50km as a metric marathon.
Not that I'll be running one any time soon.
If you want to do a destination run and don't mind doing only 26.2 (or 13.1), check out the Big Sur marathon.
It was on my list for a while
http://www.bsim.org/Photos_Media___More/Marathon_Tour_Video.htm
That's such an awesome race!
I am kinda toying with running a Marathon in mid-April, too.
One year.....
What's it gonna take to get Sls, Sunrise, Matt and I to commit to running a full together?
Burlington, anyone? ;)
I'd love to. I don't have the time to put in anything close to proper training - 20 miles a week is about all I can get in at this point
It's just like riding a bike!
Any running goals for 2015?
getting back to 4 runs per week, 20 - 25 m / week
Awesome!
That's a pretty solid schedule.
Quote from: slslbs on January 02, 2015, 05:27:27 PM
getting back to 4 runs per week, 20 - 25 m / week
This
Also, got a Fitbit for Christmas and am looking forward to incorporating it into my exercise routine
Started this challenge yesterday - I'm insane. I really hope I can do it.
(http://i.imgur.com/goduwA2.jpg)
Never heard of the running term "Burpees" before ;)
Good luck!
I'm starting 2015 off on the DL. Haven't ran since Christmas with a pretty bad knee injury.
Not even sure I'm getting much better or maybe I'm getting older and just recovering REALLY.FUCKING.SLOWLY.
Have a 10 miler next week at Blue Point Brewery that I might be sitting out.
50k training officially starts on 2/1 with the next goal race being the NYC Half in March.
I'm leading a small 1:40 pace group there so I really need to focus on health right now.
I'm way past the depression stage and all I want to do is get out there again!!!
My wife and I are signed up for a small half marathon in Washington, MO in May, including an overnight stay away from the kids. Ran 1:25 for a half about a month ago, only running 3 days a week. Hoping that running 4-5 days a week the next couple months will help me drop that a little lower.
Happy running all. Hope the knee is doing better Aug.
good luck
between the weather and being super busy at work I'm having a hard time keeping up my schedule. In fact, I haven't run since last Sunday.
Hopefully tomorrow
good luck on the knee, Aug
Good luck and great time with a 1:25!
That's faster than my 5k pace!
Knee is actually doing great!
I've been big on Fish Oil for a few years but since I added a Glucosamine supp only a few DAYS ago, my knee has been feeling fresh again!
Truly insane as I thought I was starting my path of lifelong knee soreness.
This Winter has been brutal for running!
NYC lottery drawing on Tues!
I've put in so many times for this thing.
I just wanna run it ONCE!
NYC Half is in 2 weeks and is a slightly different course (they shut down Times Square!) and might be my most challenging race yet.
Really hoping to break 1:40 (7:27p) which is doable, but tough with the kind of long training I've been doing for the 50k in May.
Another crazy hilly half 6 days later that will serve more as a shake out training run.
Signed up for the NJ Marathon as my last long run before the 50k, but I'm actually hoping to PR by a few minutes.
Good, easy 18 miler this morning at a pretty sweet pace, so that's promising.
Gonna be getting crazy around here!
What's everyone up to??
nice work Aug.
I'm a low key, after work as a relaxer runner.
but I had to join a gym this winter with an indoor track. too dangerous to run outside around here this winter.
my knees didn't like my half training last year. hopefully this year, I'll get a half in.
Nice!
Yeah, you guys got rocked.
Interesting to see Boston Marathon stats after the race this year.
I've been training with my friend who is running her first Boston and is looking for a sub 3:30.
She's all about hillwork!
You still got a speedy half in you!!
she's very wise re - hills
sub 3:30 is quick
Set a sub-100 minute goal for today's NYC Half Marathon and finished in 1:38:48/7:32p!
Great race all around!
Fucking kidding me! 730 pace is awesome. Congrats on a great time.
I guess I shouldn't brag about the 30 min 5K I ran today? :-D
Quote from: Hicks on March 15, 2015, 05:10:13 PM
I guess I shouldn't brag about the 30 min 5K I ran today? :-D
You should!
Nice work!
great work
:beers:
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Quote from: Hicks on March 15, 2015, 05:10:13 PM
I guess I shouldn't brag about the 30 min 5K I ran today? :-D
You should!
Nice work!
Thanks man, 30 seconds slower than last year because I slacked on training but on to the Cinco de Mayo run!
Nice jobs all around boyz....
Quote from: justjezmund on March 15, 2015, 05:04:29 PM
Fucking kidding me! 730 pace is awesome. Congrats on a great time.
Seriously--that's a hair faster than the pace I ran my first full marathon (still my PR)...
...when I was 24.
Now THAT is an insane time!
Running NJ next month and am gonna TRY to finish in the 8:30's.
Dude, your 1/2 marathon split is a solid minute faster than that. You will crush 8:30.
Dude starts celebrating before he crosses finish line. :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
(http://fat.gfycat.com/FlawlessAlienatedGermanshepherd.webm)
Full article here.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/04/oregon-runner-celebrates-with-the-crowd-early-promptly-loses-in-horrifying-fashion?utm_source=fb-RunnerEarlyCelebration&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=facebook (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/04/oregon-runner-celebrates-with-the-crowd-early-promptly-loses-in-horrifying-fashion?utm_source=fb-RunnerEarlyCelebration&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=facebook)
LOL
looks like Leon Lett
Ran NJ this AM in 3:48:06/8:43p.
Ran insanely great splits up until 19 and then fell apart.
Still happy with the overall time, but the beating sun for the with zero shade for the last 15 miles caught up to me and ruined my chance at a new PR.
Missed it by 45 seconds!
Anyway, still happy with the race.
Running LI next weekend and def hoping to PR.
High Mileage Spring rolls on!
Holy cow, that seems pretty decent.
Nice job and good luck on the next. :beers:
I actually just LOL'd at the "pretty decent."
Yeah, I was looking for a faster time, but had mentally prepared for a much worse time around the 24 mark.
Kinda OK with my time.
LI next weekend and my 50k in 3 wks.
nice job
:beers:
good luck in the LI
Dude! :beerbang:
Quote from: Augustus on April 26, 2015, 06:45:47 PM
I actually just LOL'd at the "pretty decent."
Yeah, I was looking for a faster time, but had mentally prepared for a much worse time around the 24 mark.
Kinda OK with my time.
LI next weekend and my 50k in 3 wks.
When I said pretty decent, it was in relation to your own past performances, lol.
I would have dropped dead before the 8 mile mark.
Looking to knock a good chunk off this weekend.
Tired of these 3:40's...;)
Quote from: Augustus on April 27, 2015, 10:04:05 AM
Looking to knock a good chunk off this weekend.
Tired of these 3:40's...;)
Yeah, how about you pull up your socks, slacker.
I'm trying! Trust me!
Also, I ran with the 3:40 group for about 18 and the pace leader had just run the USA 24hr championship. Aside from him running a 3:40 Marathon just days after, the real crazy part is that he ran 159 miles (256k)!
6+ marathons! Insane!
Quote from: Augustus on April 27, 2015, 11:14:07 AM
Also, I ran with the 3:40 group for about 18 and the pace leader had just run the USA 24hr championship. Aside from him running a 3:40 Marathon just days after, the real crazy part is that he ran 159 miles (256k)!
6+ marathons! Insane!
slacker
So as some of you may know, I quit smoking cigarettes back on February 15th. A few weeks later, at the end of February, I joined a gym, and started running again. I have been doing strength training 3 days a week and running 1-3 days a week. I have been very committed to the weights (3 days a week for all of March and April) but it took me a little while to get back into the swing of running, however, April was an awesome month as far as running in concerned and I have literally never felt better in my entire life.
Now to why I am posting in here: a week ago on Thursday i went for a run by my house, a perfect 5.5 mile loop right on the bluffs. About halfway through my run I am noticing some pain on the top of my left foot near my ankle. After maybe running a quarter of a mile longer it becomes extremely apparent that there is some seriously wrong with my foot, as I am in some serious pain. Only problem is that I was only about halfway through my run so I ended up hobbling home for over 2 miles, which seriously sucked.
So here I am, over a week later, and I am headed for the orthopedic office, as I am thoroughly convinced I either have some ligament damage or a stress fracture/break in my ankle. My ankle actually feels a lot worse then it did a week ago :frustrated:
More then anything I am just bummed because I was really starting to hit a groove as far as getting into shape is concerned (down 10 pounds and 8% body fat)
Xrays were clean, so..
I got the boot!
Clean X-Rays are good. I had some pretty bad tendonitis at one point, my only serious running injury.
Probably it's your body reminding you to take things a bit slower.
Nice.
Definitely ease up once the boot comes off.
You'll have plenty of time to crank out miles when you're healthy again.
Quote from: Augustus on May 01, 2015, 07:38:58 PM
Nice.
Definitely ease up once the boot comes off.
You'll have plenty of time to crank out miles when you're healthy again.
when coming off an injury warm up and stretch
good luck
So.... who's the fastest Pauger? :police:
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on May 01, 2015, 09:56:16 PM
So.... who's the fastest Pau
ger? :police:
Running or rhymin'?
Quote from: Augustus on May 01, 2015, 07:38:58 PM
Nice.
Definitely ease up once the boot comes off.
You'll have plenty of time to crank out miles when you're healthy again.
I will ease up when the boot comes off.
New goal of mine, though, is to be able to run a marathon faster than Aug..
Quote from: GBL on May 02, 2015, 01:58:54 AM
Quote from: Augustus on May 01, 2015, 07:38:58 PM
Nice.
Definitely ease up once the boot comes off.
You'll have plenty of time to crank out miles when you're healthy again.
I will ease up when the boot comes off.
New goal of mine, though, is to be able to run a marathon faster than Aug..
That's a great goal!
4:10:37/9:37p today at the LI Marathon.
Better than last year's DNF!
Not my best race, but I'm glad to be freakin' done with that course!
50k in 2 weeks!
Wait, you ran 2 marathons in 2 weeks?!? That's insane.
I didn't even realize people did that!!!
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on May 03, 2015, 06:12:28 PM
Wait, you ran 2 marathons in 2 weeks?!? That's insane.
I didn't even realize people did that!!!
Oh, people do MUCH crazier than that!
Quote from: Augustus on May 03, 2015, 01:44:47 PM
4:10:37/9:37p today at the LI Marathon.
Better than last year's DNF!
Not my best race, but I'm glad to be freakin' done with that course!
50k in 2 weeks!
Nice dood!
Quote from: Augustus on May 03, 2015, 07:16:14 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on May 03, 2015, 06:12:28 PM
Wait, you ran 2 marathons in 2 weeks?!? That's insane.
I didn't even realize people did that!!!
Oh, people do MUCH crazier than that!
your a better man than me
good luck in the 50 K
You got this Aug, wish I had your drive.
Ran my first 50k trail race today in 5:50.
Super humid and hot and a deceptively hilly course.
Happy with a sub-6!
Quote from: Augustus on May 17, 2015, 03:49:51 PM
Ran my first 50k trail race today in 5:50.
Super humid and hot and a deceptively hilly course.
Happy with a sub-6!
good job, Joey!
Seriously awesome aug.
I congratulate you on this insane behavior.
Dude.
:beers:
Oh, thanks!
nice work
:beers:
where was the race?
Thanks!
The race was in Pennypack Park in Philly.
Absolutely gorgeous park with miles and miles of trail, stream crossings, bridges, climbing and with all types of terrain.
The course description has it listed as a "mostly flat" course.
I'd like to punch that dude in the face 'cause he's a liar.
The distance was fine but like I posted, the heat and humidity got you early on.
Almost a quarter of my field DNF (only ~120 finished) and almost 2/3(!) of the 50 milers dropped out with only 42 finishers.
Fun day trip with the fam (they went out to eat and to a hands-on museum in the city) and a very fun race vibe.
That's insane man, good for you.
I don't even think I could run a mile w/o stopping. I haven't tried for years.
31 miles is a serious haul esp in nature, nice work Aug!
Quote from: susep on May 18, 2015, 12:08:36 PM
31 miles is a serious haul esp in nature, nice work Aug!
Thanks!
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on May 18, 2015, 12:05:41 PM
That's insane man, good for you.
I don't even think I could run a mile w/o stopping. I haven't tried for years.
You should go find out!
New 10 Mile PR this AM.
1:14:07/7:25p
4th in AG
PUMPED
Quote from: Augustus on May 18, 2015, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on May 18, 2015, 12:05:41 PM
That's insane man, good for you.
I don't even think I could run a mile w/o stopping. I haven't tried for years.
You should go find out!
Good one! :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
:beers:
Quote from: Augustus on May 24, 2015, 10:45:39 AM
New 10 Mile PR this AM.
1:14:07/7:25p
4th in AG
PUMPED
Good for you, dood!
I'm planning on doing a 10 mile this October, would love to get close to 1:30.. we will see though
Plenty of time to train for that pace!
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on May 24, 2015, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: Augustus on May 18, 2015, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on May 18, 2015, 12:05:41 PM
That's insane man, good for you.
I don't even think I could run a mile w/o stopping. I haven't tried for years.
You should go find out!
Good one! :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Looking at racing at running in 6, 10 and 15K races in August/September
Kinda sick of spending $50 - $80 to run in the big races, so I'm looking for smaller more interesting events.
6K takes place on Toronto Island and is hand timed with hand-written bibs
15K is a "night race" which starts at 8pm and requires everyone to wear headlamps
10K is at the Zoo
Those all appeal to me.
Do all 3!
Also, $50-$80 for big races in the NYC area is not a real thing.
Reg for NYC Marathon (if you get in thru the lotto) is almost at the $300 mark this year.
You should save yourself some money and come up here to run something, stay in our guest room...
http://www.runguides.com/toronto/runs
I definitely wanna run a Marathon in Canada!
Might not be in the cards for me this year, tho :(
You should look at Ottawa for next year. Fun course that runs through Quebec and back across the bridge into Ontario with a great view of Parliament.
Lots of elite athletes in the 5K and 10K races the night before, everyone lines the streets to watch.
Is that the one that has that giant reflective globe-thing along the course?
If so, that's the one I want to run!
My wife's friend is getting married out-of-nowhere on 10/10.
Just got the call this week which means I had to transfer my reg for the Hartford Marathon that day to next year.
It also means I won't be doing my first back2back of Hartford/Newport this year.
It also means that I am looking for anOther Fall full that doesn't fall on a day that someone we know is getting married on.
Been feeling really good on the road/trails lately, but started to get a pain in my foot after my run Tuesday.
Went to the Dr. today and she said it could be a stress fracture, or just strained tendons. I get the x-Ray results tomorrow.
Taking the day off work to RICE tomorrow, hoping it heals up quickly.
Hope things work out well for you, Matt!
Good luck!
The marriage of music and running! This is indeed the appropriate thread for my inaugural post; what a lovely discovery, and rather unique among the major Dead & Phish boards. I feel an instant kinship! / peace, K
Hi!
What kind of running have you been doing lately?
welcome!
This Amsterdam release has been serving as a pretty good runners aid! :music:
No running for at least 3 weeks. Apparently I had an old running injury that I re-damaged, and I've done significant damage to the joint/tendons in my big toe.
This is all very depressing.
Big toe?
Good thing you got 9 more!
Just started to get into running....think this is my first time in this thread
Ran a mile and a half and felt like I was going to die.
What is a good routine to get into? Everyday? Every other day?
Not really training for anything just want to get in better shape
Quote from: Augustus on June 16, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
Big toe?
Good thing you got 9 more!
Yeah big toe. It's been a week now and it's starting to feel a bit better, still some pain.
Thanks so much for the welcome Aug & Sls! I'm about 6 mos. into training after an 18 mos. recovery - meaning NO running - from 2 Achilles tears, one of which required surgical repair, back in Feb-Mar '13. Nonetheless, since October, I've rebuilt to 40 mile weeks with a 15 mile Saturday long run each of the last 4 wkends...all on trails.
Had most of my hair chopped off this morning (g'bye pony tail) in response to the onset of regular 90 degree days with high humidity here in the southeastern Appalachians, but with no regrets by this afternoon's post-work 7 miler in sweltering heat. Also, had my trail buddy - a terrier - shaved close on Saturday. So, we're skinned and ready for the Summer solstice...Woot!
The musical selection for today's run came from the Dead's curiously neglected Download Series, specifically, volume 8 from what - on any given day - might be my favourite tour: Fall '73 (in this case 12/10). Good lord, but Keith and Jerry enjoyed a creatively energetic onstage rapport before their respective drug induced, post-hiatus declines**; yet, even so, this show belongs to Bob, who's contribution from the usually staid string rhythm component is palpably distilled in your left speaker/headphone on this magnificent SBD. Anyway, time to launder my salty UA heat gear in prep for a Xerox copy of today's run tomorrow. peace :syf:/K
**Edit: In retrospect, this broad judgment must be qualified by declaration of my love for much of '76, just about ALL of '77, and the seismic highs of '78 before "the split", to include one of my absolute all-time favourite shows - 5/14/78./K
...hi! Just saw your post...1.5 miles to start - especially in heat - is remarkable. Not everything works the same for everybody, but let me say that my efforts at running throughout my teens and early twenties were defined by recurrent injury cycles and attendant despondency. Then I discovered this video -
http://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Running-Faster-Fewer-Injuries/dp/B000A7GEGW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1434499778&sr=8-1&keywords=evolution+running
- which spurred research into shoes that would facilitate a natural footstrike. To summarize the last 4-5 years (before suffering the injury described above, which was simply the result of high-mileage hubris), I (1) dumped wedge-heeled shoes (you know, thick heel padding tapering to decreased cushioning in the forefoot); (2) started running with a mid-to-forefoot strike (versus a heel strike - watch the video, you'll see); (3) slooooooooowed down; (4) built mileage at an equally modest pace (no more than a 10% cumulative increase in mileage from week-to-week); and (5) began running trails (decreased impact force in addition to uneven terrain that helps build accessory musculature).
I went from aspiring to 10Ks to running ultramarathons in just a couple years without any significant injuries (until I got cocky) or having even started with the intention of doing so; but, no matter your current goal, just start running everyday (with 1 or 2 rest days weekly - you'll figure it out based on your body's needs) in the right shoes while concentrating on form. And for heaven's sake, don't feel self-conscious about carrying water (I own a couple different hydration belts (Amphipod & Katoa) as well as stand-alone bottles with a handstrap). Please let us know how it's going! :clap: /peace, K
Edit: Off to watch Abby & Co. in World Cup play...hopefully we're out of group tonight!
I've never really heard of people being self conscious of carrying a bottle, but I'm definitely guilty of discrediting my mileage for a particular run and thinking I can get away with not bringing hydration/nutrition.
Now that the temps are getting up there, I'll always bring my handheld for even a 4M in the evening.
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on June 16, 2015, 04:20:22 PM
Just started to get into running....think this is my first time in this thread
Ran a mile and a half and felt like I was going to die.
What is a good routine to get into? Everyday? Every other day?
Not really training for anything just want to get in better shape
I would start with every other day
and agree - most important is to get the right shoe for you. it's worth it to go to a store that specializes in running.
start out slow
avoid the mid day heat if you can
drink water
I actually downloaded the Couch to 5K app and used that to get into running. I found it was a great way to get started. If you are a little further along you can start a few weeks in.
My big excitement was last weekend. got up to 5.5 miles,PR for distance, and at the same time not only had my first every under 7 minute mile, I ran 3 of the 5 in less than 7 minutes. Need to have a big cup of coffee and sudafed before every run.
Quote from: slslbs on June 17, 2015, 11:07:01 PM
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on June 16, 2015, 04:20:22 PM
Just started to get into running....think this is my first time in this thread
Ran a mile and a half and felt like I was going to die.
What is a good routine to get into? Everyday? Every other day?
Not really training for anything just want to get in better shape
I would start with every other day
and agree - most important is to get the right shoe for you. it's worth it to go to a store that specializes in running.
start out slow
avoid the mid day heat if you can
drink water
For the last week+ it's as though a massive dome was placed over the southeast, and while interesting to watch radar as storm lines skirted the otherwise invisible high pressure boundary from TX north to the upper Midwest then east, the strain of running 90F days with increasing humidity has been taking it's toll. Fortunately, Bill has bullied his way into the region and we're now catching rain bands down in SE KY/W VA.
Congrats Guy! Aside from a couple visits to the local HS track every couple weeks for 800 intervals (ugh), I do no speedwork. Are you fartlek training at mile intervals throughout your 5 milers or just trying to sustain an anaerobic pace for as long as possible? Regardless, you'd dust me.
Gonna hit the bed with a prayer for about 4 hours of unrelenting showers on the trails beginning at dawn! g'night/K
My wife got me a new watch for Father's Day.
Great timing(!) as my Garmin barely keeps a charge these days.
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Pretty simple all around with a fat battery life.
Band also swaps out for when you're feeling extra smelly.
Stoked!
06/28 Mass Park Firecracker 5K
07/04 Bellmore Striders 4M
08/23 Selden Hills 10K
09/07 Long Beach Labor Day 5M
09/19 Cow Harbor 10K
09/27 Suffolk County Marathon
10/18 Bimbler's Bluff 50K
11/26 Massapequa Turkey Trot 5K
cool
where is the Suffolk marathon?
hit 2 miles yesterday
watch out 5k !
Quote from: slslbs on June 23, 2015, 01:10:35 PM
cool
where is the Suffolk marathon?
It's the inaugural running, so I kinda want to do it.
Starts and ends at Heckscher State Park and runs thru Sayville, Patchouge, Blue Point and maybe some more.
Have a lot of friends doing the half, so it should be a fun day.
Come run it!
should be fun
right now a marathon isn't the cards for me
half - maybe
3 weeks with no runs is torture. Going for therapeutic massage today though.
Sucks, dude.
We've all been there.
Quote from: Augustus on June 24, 2015, 03:41:48 PM
Sucks, dude.
We've all been there.
You're telling me bro! 3 weeks with no running?
Man, I've been there approximately 150-180 times!
Okay, I'll leave now.
For a non-runner, you sure do post a lot in the Runner's thread...;)
Sounds to me like you want to start!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_0ava_MSSw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_0ava_MSSw)
Quote from: Augustus on June 24, 2015, 09:34:59 PM
For a non-runner, you sure do post a lot in the Runner's thread...;)
Sounds to me like you want to start!
Guilt is slowly building...
Just ran a local 5k
20:30/6:35p
4th place in AG, but I'm still happy to run a sub-21.
Also, evening races are fucking weird.
New 50k program starts tomorrow.
Nice Augustus
I was happy that 3 weeks ago I ran my first sub 7min mile. Then 2 weeks ago on a 5 miler I had a 6:23, 6:30, 6:50 miles along with my best 5k time. I normal run about 7:30. Considering that 3 years ago this week I was 275 pounds I'll take it.
Yeah, man!
Keep it up! And off!
nice ( x 2)
I usually run the Jerry Garcia race end of July on the Charles, but because of construction of the path along the route and troubles finding a new venue, it's been cancelled.
I'll have to find something else
Quote from: Augustus on July 03, 2015, 11:48:11 PM
Yeah, man!
Keep it up! And off!
Thanks.
5k PR today and I felt awful during it. Called it the hops and barley hill run.
Dropped over 100 lbs from my high. Should have seen the docs reaction when my resting pulse was a 48 in the office and my BP was 102/60.
Awesome
I need you to come to my office and talk to my patients
I'm sure they will listen to you more than me
Quote from: slslbs on July 05, 2015, 05:03:21 PM
Awesome
I need you to come to my office and talk to my patients
I'm sure they will listen to you more than me
My doctor asked me to speak to my friend that referred me to him.
1. Stopped high fructose corn syrup
2. 3 weeks later stopped highly processed foods
3. 3 weeks later stopped all artificial sweeteners
As soon as I stopped the artificial stuff the weight poured off, its poison, pure poison. I also do Insanity or Insanity Max 30 5days a week and run 1-2.
Basically, when people ask I tell them to eat real food. If you can't grow what's in it you have no business eating it. That and food does not come through a car window.
still keeping up with the 1.5-2 mile routine with about 1-2 off days a week even with this sinus infection, sometimes it hard to get the circular breathing going but its been working
feeling good and getting a good nights.
and this week I learned that elevation does make a difference. Been in the mountains for a week. Day 1 really felt it, pace was way off. Now at Day 7 pace is better, but still not quite back. didn't think the extra 1500 feet would make that much of a difference. Although all the craft beer might be a contributing factor.
I think we scared Kate! Remember her!
Guyute, elevation is KING.
Such a great way of maximizing your workouts.
I've been doing a great deal of Hillwork for my upcoming race.
The race has ~2,500ft of vert...in the first half!
Strategy is to run that 15.5 as conservatively as possible and open up a bit on the second half.
I'm currently averaging 2,000ft of air per week.
Pace is down, but it's all good. I know I'm getting stronger.
50k is less than 11 weeks out.
Here's some pics of the peak.
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Suffolk Marathon is 7 weeks out and training has been going great.
Really hoping to PR there.
Been strongly thinking about (if I get drunk enough I'll sign up for) the Bucks County Marathon in mid-November.
13.1 miles out and 13.1 back alongside the Delaware River in sweet foliage.
Mostly packed gravel/fire road surfaces and a small race size of 500.
Convince me not to do it!
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What's the scoop?!
How's everyone dealing with the heat?
I've been dealing with the heat by hitting the treadmill. I still haven't pushed past 4.8 miles since my foot injury, but I'm not so worried about distance as I am maintaining pace and feeling strong doing it.
Also, you should definitely do that Bucks County race, it looks like a gorgeous run!
Nice! Glad you're getting your miles in!
Don't sweat distance, it will all come when the time is right.
That's one impressive looking hill to climb
Bucks Co Marathon looks nice
beating the heat by running before work (5:30 AM)
Quote from: slslbs on July 30, 2015, 09:46:39 PM
That's one impressive looking hill to climb
Bucks Co Marathon looks nice
beating the heat by running before work (5:30 AM)
Nice!
That seems like the only way lately.
I snuck out at 4:30 this AM for 9.5 before and it was still a total slosh fest out there, even without a shirt.
Ran another 5.75 this eve and it was brutal.
Heard it's gonna break tomorrow, tho :-D
That peak looks great, can I ask where that is?
It was brutal this week. I was going around 7pm and just drenched at the end.
50k is a little too rich for my blood.
That race is in Guilford, CT.
50k is just like a 5k, but 10 times the amount.
Cake!
I know Guilford. I had a friend who was going to run in it, but he isn't sure now. He just did a 50 miler and found out he needs hernia surgery now.
Should be a fun race, nuts, but fun.
So I knew my uncle was some kind of big deal in running. I don't think he is a huge deal but it has always been a huge part of his life. He is 60 and still killing it every day. Anyway, someone put his stats up on FB and I thought they were pretty cool. I don't know anything about any of the times, but I was impressed by the sheer number of tris (112!) and marathons (62!) he has done. The dude is a machine. Here are his stats that some lady threw up on an ultra running page. Thought you guys might get a kick out of it:
1 mile: 4:27.4 (Portland, track)
10km: 32:43 (Canby, Or, road)
15km: 50:15 (Portland, Cascade Run Off)
10 mi. 54:30 (Track, Portland)
1/2 Mar. 1:11:45 (Cottage Grove, Or)
25km: 1:27:25 (Eugene, Or)
Marathon: 2:29:54 (Boston '82)
50km: 3:09:15 (Seattle '81)
50 miles: 5:27:34 (Chicago '82)
100km: 6:58 (Torhout '86)
100 mi: 17:48 (WS '82)
13 overall Ultra wins, 2nd in 6
6 course records (Cow Mt. 50, Timberline Trail 41, Coast Hills 50, Four Peaks 50, Pacific Crest Trail 50, Grants Pass 50 road)
Ultras 42
Marathons 62
Ironman Triathlons 14 (PR 9:50:25)
Triathlons (any) 112
Vs. Ann Trason 1 win, 1 loss (Cal Endurance run 50, WS 100 '90)
sub 3:30 50k's =6
sub 5:40 50's =3
sub 2:40 Mar. =9
sub 10 hr. Ironman= 2
sub 11 hr. Ironman = 8
Whoa!!!
That 100M time is at Western States, the most prestigious of all the 100M races and that time is SICK!
Quote from: Augustus on August 15, 2015, 05:45:46 AM
Whoa!!!
That 100M time is at Western States, the most prestigious of all the 100M races and that time is SICK!
Yeah, he has been doing Western States since the start of it. Here is a pic of him weighting in at the finish in 1990....
That Boston PR is near Elite time.
About a minute shy per mile.
Do you know if those Ultra CR (course records) still stand?
Really impressive stuff!
How'd you not get roped into training with him? ;)
Quote from: Augustus on August 16, 2015, 09:15:08 AM
That Boston PR is near Elite time.
About a minute shy per mile.
Do you know if those Ultra CR (course records) still stand?
Really impressive stuff!
How'd you not get roped into training with him? ;)
I think all those CRs are still standing. I do get roped into biking with him. Even when I am in peak shape, smokes me and I am 15 years younger. We do a bunch of riding together, I can rarely, if ever, keep up.
That's just sick. Some of that is real crazy, like 62 Marathons.
I think he may need a hobby...........
He's a beast
I'm in awe
Quote from: slslbs on August 16, 2015, 11:45:11 PM
He's a beast
I'm in awe
Amazing what the human body can endure.
True, but I'm sure he'll (or any runner) will tell you how important the mental game is in racing.
Annual Labor Day 5M this AM.
34:37/6:56p which was good enough to place!
Set a sub-35 goal, so I'm happy with how I raced.
Marathon this Sun!!
Quote from: Augustus on September 07, 2015, 12:12:35 PM
Annual Labor Day 5M this AM.
34:37/6:56p which was good enough to place!
Set a sub-35 goal, so I'm happy with how I raced.
Marathon this Sun!!
dude thats a sick time! well done!
Quote from: jedifunk on September 07, 2015, 12:20:31 PM
Quote from: Augustus on September 07, 2015, 12:12:35 PM
Annual Labor Day 5M this AM.
34:37/6:56p which was good enough to place!
Set a sub-35 goal, so I'm happy with how I raced.
Marathon this Sun!!
dude thats a sick time! well done!
congrats
good luck Sunday
Thanks, guys!
Suffolk Marathon today in 3:51/8:49p.
Supra humid so I'm cool with the result.
5th place in the Clydesdale division.
5 weeks until the Bluff 50k!
great job in that weather
:beers:
Thanks!
Turns out that I actually placed 3rd in my division!
In a MARATHON!!
Pretty crazy, especially since I wasn't crazy about my time.
Anyway, The Great Cow Harbor 10k is in 2 days.
Tough course with plent of elites and close to 5,500(!) runners.
My favorite race of the year!
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Also, I was the only New Yorker to place in my division.
Bringing the bronze home to LI!
Fantastic
:beers:
Holy Aug, that's incredible.
Nice work.
I've finally gotten back on the horse. Been out 3 times this week and plan to continue.
Only small distances after work since I don't have a ton of time.
Nice!
Keep it up!
Ran the Great Cow Harbor 10k Championship yesterday.
Tough course that draws elites (Ryan Hall, Deena Kastor, Fernando Cabada) and HUGE support from the town of Northport.
Ran a course PR of 45:02/7:15p.
Missed my goal of sub-45, but I absolutely gave 110% yesterday.
Good effort 1 week after a marathon
Well done :beers:
Ran a totally GNAR 50k today that was measured at 53k.
It was really tough with close to 3,000ft of climbing.
A lot of actual climbing for long stretches and hazardous terrain.
Glad it's over!
You my friend, are an animal! :clap:
Quote from: G. Augusto on October 18, 2015, 06:31:10 PM
Ran a totally GNAR 50k today that was measured at 53k.
It was really tough with close to 3,000ft of climbing.
A lot of actual climbing for long stretches and hazardous terrain.
Glad it's over!
BEAST mode! Good for you, dood! 🏃🏃🏃🏃
Call me when you finish 100k. Yawn
awesome :beers:
3000 ft of climbing in a 50K is just wrong.
Quote from: slslbs on October 18, 2015, 08:21:37 PM
awesome :beers:
3000 ft of climbing in a 50K is just wrong.
Especially when it's mostly in the 1st 15M!
If you're ever near Guilford, CT, there's some sick views and trails to be had.
Pretty pretty epic running today.
Ran the After the Leaves Have Fallen Half Marathon today near New Paltz, NY.
GORGEOUS views, perfect running weather, friends, hills and trails!
Almost wish I wasn't racing and stopped to take some pix at one of the many overlooks.
1,100 feet of climbing with a total elevation of 2,300 feet.
Epic!
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^^^That's f'ing beautiful. I'm feeling a half-marathon workout coming today or tomorrow; if I make it it'll be here:
Nice! Do you have a race on the horizon?
Nah, just staying in shape so I can outrun all the angry husbands, etc.
Great plan!
Quote from: sunrisevt on November 09, 2015, 02:38:18 PM
Nah, just staying in shape so I can outrun all the angry husbands, etc.
:sbw:
Here's some great vid of yesterday's race taken by one of the gals from my club.
http://youtu.be/F2DJiRUyCdw
my old man just ran the Richmond Marathon in 4:04! 65 years old, could not be more proud. he qualified for the Boston Marathon but I don't think he's got it in him :-)
my legs are sore just from walking the dog :|
Quote from: blatboom on November 14, 2015, 02:27:15 PM
my old man just ran the Richmond Marathon in 4:04! 65 years old, could not be more proud. he qualified for the Boston Marathon but I don't think he's got it in him :-)
nice
his qualification is good for 2017 also. No reason he can't do it if he wants. He has time to rest before he trains again
congrats
:beers:
Ran 6 minutes on the treadmill Thursday. First running since the foot injury.
Badass time, Mr. Boom!
What's his running history?
First Marathon???
Matt-congrats on your 6 minute run!
he did the Marine Corps marathon in '84 and I think he beat that time today :-o he's been a runner his whole life though so I guess that apple fell off the tree and rolled into a swamp or something
he enlisted into the Marines at 18 and did a tour in Vietnam then was a Richmond cop/detective until he retired a few years back but now he's a sheriff's deputy in an outlying county, guy just can't stop. I wish I was 1/5th of the man he is
Nice!
Just run, dude.
It's in your blood.
Finally broke 20 minutes this morning at the local (and huge!) Turkey Trot!
Ran a 19:57/6:25p on a day where I wasn't feeling strong but I dug hard that last mile and even harder during the last quarter mile when the finish was close.
AND, with this new PR, I close out the 2015 season on a high note by setting a new PR in EVERY distance I raced this year!
5k, 5M, 10k, 10M, Half Marathon, Marathon AND 50k!!
Looking forward to 2016 and even bigger goals!
Holy shit Aug, that's some big achievements. Good stuff :clap:
Amazing work.
I ran 20 minutes for the first time in a long time today. Toe is feeling OK.
Thanks, guys!
Just keep at whatever is comfortable, Matt.
You'll be full throttle in no time!
Being in the comfortable 8-10K range in the spring is my goal, once the snow's melted get back to running to and from work again.
Good work Matt
Awesome job Aug!!!!!
I've only been running about 1/2 as much as I want / should. Did OK in the Featster 5 this AM considering. 22:53, 7:23 pace, 7th in AG
10 years and 2:30 from my PR.
Excellent work!
Master's is only tougher!!
Nice work boys! Keep it cranking!
You guys are animals! Gotta get back out there too.
First off, you guys are beasts! I just recently got back into running at the beginning of November. Just hit a personal best of 4 miles at an 8 min pace. Not much, but since its the furthest I have gone in a single run I'm pretty proud!
Nice work!
got shut out of the Vermont Covered Bridges Half Marathon
that was tougher than getting Phish tix
:frustrated:
Quote from: slslbs on December 07, 2015, 08:10:08 PM
got shut out of the Vermont Covered Bridges Half Marathon
that was tougher than getting Phish tix
:frustrated:
Dang!
I've heard so many good things about that race.
Definitely on my list.
Just ran a 5k on nye day in captiva island fl never thought I'd say that
Nice work emay :clap:
Nice job!
Keep it up!
Did you break 20? ;)
Ran the Capitol 10K this morning! First race I've participated in since the 2014 Cap 10k, and only the 4th or 5th time in a year I've gone over 5 miles, so all things considered I'm pretty pleased with how I did.
I also biked 3 miles there and 3 miles back...oof :-o :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Can't wait for the next one!
Nice work!
Keep it up!
Eyyy. Didn't know you were back in Austin natron. Welcome back!
So I've never been a runner unless something was chasing me or I was trying to get to something very quickly. But since getting the Accounting job I have put on 40 pounds. So yesterday morning I went for my first run/jog. I had intended to run my entire neighborhood but made it about halfway before I ran out of gas. I made it for a mile though. Next weekend I'm going to give it another go and see if I can make the whole two miles around. One step at a time.
Today my leg muscles hurt and I still have a small pain in my lungs. I may need better stretching techniques before going out next time. :|
I would stick with a mile for a bit and maybe try to get out again during the week.
Shin splints are the "too much too soon" killer.
Agreed, also just run 1 minute, walk 1 minute, do that for a week, then run 2 minutes walk 1 minute - until you're at 10 & 1.
Slow and steady.
Thanks for the advise. I do plan on continuing to run. I need to stay healthy.
That's the right approach!
I posted on FB a while back, but I finally got into the NYC Marathon!
Have you run it before, SLS?
This definitely shifted my race calendar for the 2nd half of the year.
I just dropped down from next month's 50k to the 25k in hopes of placing in my Division.
No Ultras this year after 2 last season.
Just concentrating on racing now (4 races and 4 PRs so far!) and then shifting my focus to the two Fall Marathons I'll be running.
Either way, the calendar is stacked!!
*01/16 Blue Point 10M (1:11:58) 7:11p
*03/12 Kings Park15k (1:07:31) 7:14p
*04/02 Aspire 10k (42:02) 6:45p
*04/10 Greenwich Half (1:34:26) 7:13p
*04/24 Leatherman's Loop 10k
*05/15 Dirty German 25k
06/05 New Hyde Park 8k
*06/13 Heckscher 5M
*06/20 Sunken Mdw 10k
06/26 Firecracker 5k
*06/27 Belmont Lake 5k
07/04 Bellmore 4M
*07/11 Bethpage 5k
*07/18 Hempstead 4K
*07/25 Caumsett 5k
*08/01 Robert Moses 5k
08/06 Massapequa Mile
*08/08 Jones Beach 5M
09/05 Long Beach 5M
09/17 Cow Harbor 10k
*10/08 Hartford Marathon
10/30 Suffolk Marathon
*11/06 NYC Marathon
11/20 Long Beach Trot 10k
11/24 Massapequa Turkey Trot
Holy shit Aug, that is an intense schedule.
I'm pretty amazed at anyone who can keep that up all year.
:clap:
#lifestyle
that's quite the schedule.
Never ran NY - would like to at some point
good luck!!!!
(in case you're wondering : Boston - unofficial, Erie PA, Baystate, and Maine)
Quote from: slslbs on April 11, 2016, 05:46:47 PM
that's quite the schedule.
Never ran NY - would like to at some point
good luck!!!!
(in case you're wondering : Boston - unofficial, Erie PA, Baystate, and Maine)
Bandit!!
You might as well put in the NYC lotto each year.
Your chances are better being out-of-state.
Quote from: August on April 11, 2016, 02:00:57 PM
I posted on FB a while back, but I finally got into the NYC Marathon!
Have you run it before, SLS?
This definitely shifted my race calendar for the 2nd half of the year.
I just dropped down from next month's 50k to the 25k in hopes of placing in my Division.
No Ultras this year after 2 last season.
Just concentrating on racing now (4 races and 4 PRs so far!) and then shifting my focus to the two Fall Marathons I'll be running.
Either way, the calendar is stacked!!
*01/16 Blue Point 10M (1:11:58) 7:11p
*03/12 Kings Park15k (1:07:31) 7:14p
*04/02 Aspire 10k (42:02) 6:45p
*04/10 Greenwich Half (1:34:26) 7:13p
*04/24 Leatherman's Loop 10k
*05/15 Dirty German 25k
06/05 New Hyde Park 8k
*06/13 Heckscher 5M
*06/20 Sunken Mdw 10k
06/26 Firecracker 5k
*06/27 Belmont Lake 5k
07/04 Bellmore 4M
*07/11 Bethpage 5k
*07/18 Hempstead 4K
*07/25 Caumsett 5k
*08/01 Robert Moses 5k
08/06 Massapequa Mile
*08/08 Jones Beach 5M
09/05 Long Beach 5M
09/17 Cow Harbor 10k
*10/08 Hartford Marathon
10/30 Suffolk Marathon
*11/06 NYC Marathon
11/20 Long Beach Trot 10k
11/24 Massapequa Turkey Trot
Dude.
In my defense, I'm only doing Suffolk if two of my other teammates run it as it is as scored race for the USATF and we will most likely win all of the team points for that one.
Otherwise, super stoked for Hartford and NYC!
Edit: Pretty sure that it's a go...;)
Quote from: EdBanky on April 10, 2016, 09:13:53 PM
Eyyy. Didn't know you were back in Austin natron. Welcome back!
Thanks man! The NW is amazing and I had some great times, but Austin is and will always be home.
Quote from: mistercharlie on April 11, 2016, 05:56:22 AM
So I've never been a runner unless something was chasing me or I was trying to get to something very quickly. But since getting the Accounting job I have put on 40 pounds. So yesterday morning I went for my first run/jog. I had intended to run my entire neighborhood but made it about halfway before I ran out of gas. I made it for a mile though. Next weekend I'm going to give it another go and see if I can make the whole two miles around. One step at a time.
Today my leg muscles hurt and I still have a small pain in my lungs. I may need better stretching techniques before going out next time. :|
Definitely what the other guys said, start slow and don't hurt yourself. That would really keep you from running.
I don't know if other runners experience this, but I did notice with myself though as I was trying to go further distances, that I would start off feeling pretty good for the first mile or so, then starting the second mile I would hurt and hate myself and want to die, and then right around completing the second mile the pain would ease and I could breathe comfortably again, and I could usually make it a ways further.
Obviously your mileage may vary (pun always intended), and not hurting yourself is a bigger priority than pushing further.
The past two weeks I've done the minute of running/minute of walking like Matt suggested and have ran every Saturday morning and Wednesday evening. Today I did 2 minutes running/1 minute walking and I pushed it for the whole two miles. It may have been the funky-ass Prince concert I was listening to that gave me that extra something today( http://www.panicstream.net/vault/prince-08181988-rotterdam-holland/ ).
I'm on the track to getting rid of this beer gut!
1st race of the year
5K Step Up for Colleen
22:12 (7:08 p), 2nd in AG
Can't believe I'm posting in here since I'm not really a "runner." But recently began running 3x a week anywhere from 3-5 miles each time. City running is running 1-3 blocks at a time then waiting for the light to change. (I appreciate the break).
Ran my first 5k of the year. Ran the Redskins Draft Day 5k yesterday. Was super fun. At the end ran through the players tunnel and finished the race on the 50yd line.
Going to run a couple more 5ks with a goal of finishing a 10k by the year end
^^
that sounds like a blast
keep it up
:rawk:
Excellent work, guys!
Keep it up, Igbo!
Sub-21 on the horizon, sls!!
I don't think I've gotten below 21 since my 50th b-day
that horizon might be in the past.
first run of the year coming up in a week and few days.
Harpoon 5 miler.
always love the fresh beer from the brewery after. the run isn't so bad either :laugh:
Best of luck and have fun!
Beer runs are the best.
Quote from: VDB on May 12, 2016, 09:23:32 PM
Beer runs are the best.
they have non beer runs? I have those moved to my spam folder automatically.
Quote from: August on May 12, 2016, 08:03:39 PM
Best of luck and have fun!
thanks :beers:
My wife ran the Harpoon 5 miler last year. I stayed back at the Brewery and drank beer like a champ. I enjoyed it thoroughly. My buddy DJs the dance party in the tent after the race. Stop by and say Hi, Bvaz.
How could I not know about this?
I'm working that day anyway
I expect to see you at the Garcia run (also partially sponsored by Harpoon)
Quote from: birdman on May 13, 2016, 06:00:14 AM
My wife ran the Harpoon 5 miler last year. I stayed back at the Brewery and drank beer like a champ. I enjoyed it thoroughly. My buddy DJs the dance party in the tent after the race. Stop by and say Hi, Bvaz.
the lottery shut me out last year I've run it a number of years though previously.
I'll go ask the DJ to play Twiddle.
Quote from: slslbs on May 13, 2016, 08:43:28 AM
How could I not know about this?
I'm working that day anyway
I expect to see you at the Garcia run (also partially sponsored by Harpoon)
I missed the Garcia run the last 2 years because I was leaving for Gathering of the Vibes.
the route will need to be changed again as that last stretch of that course is under construction and has been for over a year now.
Quote from: slslbs on May 13, 2016, 08:43:28 AM
How could I not know about this?
I'm working that day anyway
I expect to see you at the Garcia run (also partially sponsored by Harpoon)
How could I not know about this?
I'll have to check this out.
Obviously, this all just adds up to an autumn "race weekend" in VT.
Quote from: birdman on May 13, 2016, 05:46:46 PM
Quote from: slslbs on May 13, 2016, 08:43:28 AM
How could I not know about this?
I'm working that day anyway
I expect to see you at the Garcia run (also partially sponsored by Harpoon)
How could I not know about this?
I'll have to check this out.
http://baevents.com/garcia/index.html
Quote from: slslbs on May 14, 2016, 08:24:59 AM
Quote from: birdman on May 13, 2016, 05:46:46 PM
Quote from: slslbs on May 13, 2016, 08:43:28 AM
How could I not know about this?
I'm working that day anyway
I expect to see you at the Garcia run (also partially sponsored by Harpoon)
How could I not know about this?
I'll have to check this out.
good news that this series of runs is resuming. so close to work and it is a nice run.
http://baevents.com/garcia/index.html
^^
this race typically sells out - not sure what is going to happen this year because they had to cancel last year.
Quote from: sunrisevt on May 13, 2016, 09:10:50 PM
Obviously, this all just adds up to an autumn "race weekend" in VT.
will there be beer?
Lahey Hospital Oncology 5K
the nurses where I work started a team in memory of LBS.
There were 26 of us, we raised over $2,000
21:21, 6:53 paced, 6th overall, 2nd in AG (damn, still haven't gotten a 1st)
Excellent work and an even better cause!!
Quote from: slslbs on June 25, 2016, 12:11:58 PM
Lahey Hospital Oncology 5K
the nurses where I work started a team in memory of LBS.
There were 26 of us, we raised over $2,000
21:21, 6:53 paced, 6th overall, 2nd in AG (damn, still haven't gotten a 1st)
That's incredible Steve, great stuff. :beers:
5K
21:32, 6:58 pace
2nd in AG
Nice work!!
You still got it!!!
Ran the Bellmore 4M this AM.
26:53/6:43p
PR!
Nice
:beers:
Congrats to Aug on a mile PR this morning: 5:38. I don;t know a lot about running, but that seems pretty legit to me!
Quote from: Caravan2001 on August 06, 2016, 03:08:32 PM
Congrats to Aug on a mile PR this morning: 5:38. I don;t know a lot about running, but that seems pretty legit to me!
I'm betting he had a tail wind.
Nice work Aug.
Very impressive
Thanks, guys!!!
Actually, a pretty decent headwind!
Nice time trial for next month's Main Street Mile.
Hoping to break 5:30.
14 on tap for tomorrow morning!!!
Quote from: August on August 06, 2016, 03:55:33 PM
Thanks, guys!!!
Actually, a pretty decent headwind!
Nice time trial for next month's Main Street Mile.
Hoping to break 5:30.
14 on tap for tomorrow morning!!!
Nice dude...I'm planning on getting out for a few hours tomorrow myself. It's been really hard for me to find time to train in the summer between work and vacation and the kids being around all the time. Running is nice because even when you do go on vacation, you just throw on your shoes and go. Not so much with a bike so I have found myself having to go 4-5 days without a single ride. At least my legs are always fresh!
Nice!
I wait all week for my long runs.
Great chunk of time to just clear out your head.
5:38?
Shit Aug, nice going. :beers:
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on August 06, 2016, 07:04:48 PM
5:38?
Shit Aug, nice going. :beers:
Thanks!
Also set a 1k PR while I was at it at 3:27 ;)
Good work on the PRs.
A friend and I have been telling each other we'll do a half marathon. Just need to set up a training program and stick to it. I sure don't run as much as I once did, and my endurance could use some work.
Quote from: VDB on August 07, 2016, 06:00:24 PM
Good work on the PRs.
A friend and I have been telling each other we'll do a half marathon. Just need to set up a training program and stick to it. I sure don't run as much as I once did, and my endurance could use some work.
I feel like there are so many things I could say to this right now.. :angel:
anyhow, nice work AUG.
I need to get back to the running love I started in Chicago... maybe when this house shit is settled.
Quote from: alcoholandcoffeebeans on August 08, 2016, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: VDB on August 07, 2016, 06:00:24 PM
Good work on the PRs.
A friend and I have been telling each other we'll do a half marathon. Just need to set up a training program and stick to it. I sure don't run as much as I once did, and my endurance could use some work.
I feel like there are so many things I could say to this right now.. :angel:
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very strong work Aug,
congrats
:beers:
Reaching out to the Paug runners for some advice. Probably a noob running question but.....
About a month ago i was on my normal run/walk of about 5-6 miles. Towards the end of the run I felt pain in my left foot lower arch. Stung to even walk. Went to a local runinng store and they said potentially its plantar fascitis. They recommended buying plantar specific inserts and no running for a couple of weeks. I did all this and the pain did subside.
My question is changing my foot plant when i run... i was a heel to toe runner (more like slamming my flat foot on the surface) previously. I have now tried to focus on being a toe to heel runner to help minimize the pain. IT feels unnatural to me... Should i continue to try to do this or go back to my old style since it's my more natural way to run?
Don't change your stride.
Unfortunately, many runners deal with Plantar.
Some run through it and some rest.
Inserts will help, but you might want to look into shoes (like the Hoka Clifton) that will give you more of a cushion.
Thanks Aug! I'll look out for those shoes
agree - don't change your stride. I have VERY flat feet and pronate. I had to get prescription orthotics. I could not run without them. I wear them all the time. A while back, I asked my podiatrist about toe - heel. He said there are other problems with that, too and recommended I continue heel - toe.
A good running store will be able to check your mechanics. Depending upon what the inserts do, you may do better off with a stability shoe or a neutral shoe. I used to run in stability shoes, but when I got my orthotics changed (after a bad case of PF) my podiatrist recommended a neutral shoe, and my mechanics are fine. As long as I stretch my calves, I have no problem.
Been having a pretty great season of racing thusfar.
We close out our LI State Park Series each year at Jones Beach with a 5M.
Brutally hot this year! Anyway, here's a pic of me finishing in a lot that we all have been in.
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/8808D509-190B-4975-ADE5-87C3338E991C_zpsdiplwqck.png)
I'm getting deep into Marathon training (3 in 5 weeks!!) and I'm feeling pretty fresh!!!!
:clap: nice!
great job Aug.
it's awesome on what you have and continue to accomplish.
keep it up.
Thanks, guys!
Last year, I set a new PR in each distance that I raced.
I thought it would be crazy to do it again this year, but all I have left to set a PR in is the Marathon.
And I have three chances to prove myself.
If anyone is interested in numbers, here's my race stats from 2016....
*01/16 Blue Point 10M (1:11:58) PR (7:11p)
*03/12 Kings Park 15k (1:07:31) PR (7:14p)
*04/02 Aspire 10k (42:02) PR (6:45p)
*04/10 Greenwich Half Marathon (1:34:26) PR (7:12p)
*04/24 Leatherman's Loop (1:04:34) (10:23p)
*05/15 Dirty German Trail 25k (2:05:22) PR (8:04p)
*05/22 Robbie's Run 5k (20:04) (6:27p)
*06/05 New Hyde Park 8k (33:35) PR (6:45p)
*06/13 Heckscher 5M (33:52) PR (6:46p)
*06/20 Sunken Mdw Trail 10k (46:01) (7:24p)
*06/26 Firecracker 5k (20:17) (6:31p)
*06/27 Belmont Lake 5k (20:13) (6:30p)
*07/04 Bellmore 4M (26:52) PR (6:43p)
*07/11 Bethpage 5k (20:43) (6:40p)
*07/18 Hempstead 4K (15:57) PR (6:25p)
*08/01 Heckscher 5k (19:45) PR (6:22p)
*08/06 Massapequa Mile (5:38) PR (5:38p)
*08/08 Jones Beach 5M (34:10) (6:49p)
*09/03 Farmingdale Mile
09/05 Long Beach 5M
*09/17 Cow Harbor 10k
*10/08 Hartford Marathon
*10/30 Suffolk Marathon
*11/06 NYC Marathon
*11/13 After the Leaves Half
11/20 Long Beach Trot 10k
11/24 Massapequa Turkey Trot
Quote from: August on August 11, 2016, 07:32:06 PM
Thanks, guys!
Last year, I set a new PR in each distance that I raced.
I thought it would be crazy to do it again this year, but all I have left to set a PR in is the Marathon.
And I have three chances to prove myself.
If anyone is interested in numbers, here's my race stats from 2016....
*01/16 Blue Point 10M (1:11:58) PR (7:11p)
*03/12 Kings Park 15k (1:07:31) PR (7:14p)
*04/02 Aspire 10k (42:02) PR (6:45p)
*04/10 Greenwich Half Marathon (1:34:26) PR (7:12p)
*04/24 Leatherman's Loop (1:04:34) (10:23p)
*05/15 Dirty German Trail 25k (2:05:22) PR (8:04p)
*05/22 Robbie's Run 5k (20:04) (6:27p)
*06/05 New Hyde Park 8k (33:35) PR (6:45p)
*06/13 Heckscher 5M (33:52) PR (6:46p)
*06/20 Sunken Mdw Trail 10k (46:01) (7:24p)
*06/26 Firecracker 5k (20:17) (6:31p)
*06/27 Belmont Lake 5k (20:13) (6:30p)
*07/04 Bellmore 4M (26:52) PR (6:43p)
*07/11 Bethpage 5k (20:43) (6:40p)
*07/18 Hempstead 4K (15:57) PR (6:25p)
*08/01 Heckscher 5k (19:45) PR (6:22p)
*08/06 Massapequa Mile (5:38) PR (5:38p)
*08/08 Jones Beach 5M (34:10) (6:49p)
*09/03 Farmingdale Mile
09/05 Long Beach 5M
*09/17 Cow Harbor 10k
*10/08 Hartford Marathon
*10/30 Suffolk Marathon
*11/06 NYC Marathon
*11/13 After the Leaves Half
11/20 Long Beach Trot 10k
11/24 Massapequa Turkey Trot
I get it now. this running business is just a way to compensate for a lack of Phish 3.0 stats.
you're just a stats guy. :evil:
but seriously, nice work. you inspire me to get off my ass and just get a half marathon done. then I can dream of a marathon.
Thanks!
I love stats!!!!
Strong work
:beers:
Are you really gonna run 3 marathons in 4 weeks?
Quote from: slslbs on August 16, 2016, 06:28:42 AM
Are you really gonna run 3 marathons in 4 weeks?
This.
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on August 16, 2016, 07:08:49 AM
Quote from: slslbs on August 16, 2016, 06:28:42 AM
Are you really gonna run 3 marathons in 4 weeks?
This.
Yep!
3 weeks btw Hartford and Suffolk. Plenty of recovery time.
Pretty much just taper weeks again.
NYC is the following weekend. I did consecutive weekends last season and it wasn't bad at all.
Kelly Mann Memorial 5K today to benefit Bridges fund for battered women
21:36, 6:58 p
3rd in AG, 10 overall
Quote from: slslbs on September 24, 2016, 01:06:01 PM
Kelly Mann Memorial 5K today to benefit Bridges fund for battered women
21:36, 6:58 p
3rd in AG, 10 overall
:clap: :crazy: :clap:
you guys are all over it.
i love it.
Nice work!!
How often/far do you usually run, SLS?
"full schedule" is 4 x /week, 4 - 6 miles week days, 6 - 8 miles Sunday, one track day. (20-25 m / w)
Lately it's been 3 x per week, 4 - 5 miles week days, 6-7 Sunday, one track day (15m / w)
Nice!
Those are some solid weeks!
What's next?
Got out on the back roads for 12 cloudless miles last Wednesday; that was mint.
Quote from: sunrisevt on September 25, 2016, 12:24:49 PM
Got out on the back roads for 12 cloudless miles last Wednesday; that was mint.
My man!
Quote from: Igbo on August 09, 2016, 09:23:04 AM
Reaching out to the Paug runners for some advice. Probably a noob running question but.....
About a month ago i was on my normal run/walk of about 5-6 miles. Towards the end of the run I felt pain in my left foot lower arch. Stung to even walk. Went to a local runinng store and they said potentially its plantar fascitis. They recommended buying plantar specific inserts and no running for a couple of weeks. I did all this and the pain did subside.
My question is changing my foot plant when i run... i was a heel to toe runner (more like slamming my flat foot on the surface) previously. I have now tried to focus on being a toe to heel runner to help minimize the pain. IT feels unnatural to me... Should i continue to try to do this or go back to my old style since it's my more natural way to run?
Just catching up on this thread. I am def not a runner, but I did get into it a couple of years ago when my bikes were in storage. I did try to switch from heel strike to toe strike with mixed results. I guess everyone will have an opinion. Anyway, unrelated to running, I had debilitating plantar fasciitis for almost two years. The only way I could get up and go to work was to pop about 4 Advil every morning. Thrashed my liver. I limped everywhere, it sucked. FWIW, I was first told to sleep with a stretching brace, then I was told and got custom ($$) orthotics and finally after 2 years of going to foot doctors and all that, I went to the mack orthopedic surgeon for the Knicks and he told me he could fix it with surgery. I went under the knife and wore a cast up to my knee for 2 months. That was in '96 (got handi seats for the whole New Years 96 run!) and I have not had a single issue since. Never needed orthotics or anything since. So, surgery might sound a little extreme but I had a terrible case of PF and once I got the cast off it has not come back in the most minute way, even when I did take up running. Just my 2 cents. And yeah, going to running store and having them video you and select proper shoe is certainly the first step if it's something you want to get into....
Dang, dude!
Igbo has posted in here for a bit.
Hope he's ok.
Totally alive. Haven't been running as much lately as I hurt my back a few weeks ago which kept me sidelined.
Just started back up lightly last week. The plantar/heel issue seems to have subsided. I am finding that I am conciously trying to be lighter on my toes when I plant my feet which does seem to help alleviate some of the slamming on my heel. Seems to help but still not at 100%.
Trying to get in about 4-5 miles of run/walk 3x a week now. WE'll see how this goes.
Sweet!
3rd place in the Clydesdale (200+!) Division today at the Hartford Marathon.
Actually had to pack on 12 lbs the past 2 weeks to make weight and I felt a tad heavy out there.
Either way, ran a great race and I'm stoked to place at a Marathon!!!
Official 3:30:49
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(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mudtheotter/57636DAD-7C21-43B9-9A48-C254DD286ABB_zpssz9whnuw.png)
Nice :clap:
I figured this should go here...
http://trailrunnermag.com/people/adventure/2294-how-karl-meltzer-broke-the-appalachian-trail-record
QuoteThere was a lot of Grateful Dead, but not the studio stuff – the stuff where they really get jamming for a long time," he says. "I had some Strange Folk, a little Phish. I like that jam stuff.
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on October 11, 2016, 07:32:38 PM
I figured this should go here...
http://trailrunnermag.com/people/adventure/2294-how-karl-meltzer-broke-the-appalachian-trail-record
QuoteThere was a lot of Grateful Dead, but not the studio stuff – the stuff where they really get jamming for a long time," he says. "I had some Strange Folk, a little Phish. I like that jam stuff.
I don't know how people run without listening to that type of music. Cool article!
I have no business posting this much in this thread since I run like 3 - 5 km a week and that's only been in the last couple of months but this story is one of the most inspiring stories I've ever seen.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2016/09/19/watch-jonny-brownlee-helped-over-the-finish-line-by-brother-alis/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liCRrheKIOI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liCRrheKIOI)
I've been running a little lately, and damn.... I'm out of shape.
I've been interested in doing some trail running. We have a lake south of town with some pretty cool trails. Anyone here trail run?
Sooooo....anyone taking up running for the first time for the new year?
Goals for other runners in 2017??
I just crossed the 10 mile threshold for the first time this morning, and encouragingly, I don't feel wrecked at all (except maybe my nipples).
Beyond that, I'm officially committed to run my first half marathon in just over 2 weeks! I'm pretty much feeling like I got this, but any advice from you more seasoned runners would be very welcome.
Sweet!
Rule 1: Have fun!
Don't be so rigid if you have a time goal. Just finish and finish as strong as you can.
Quote from: natronzero on January 07, 2017, 01:25:13 PM
I just crossed the 10 mile threshold for the first time this morning, and encouragingly, I don't feel wrecked at all (except maybe my nipples).
Beyond that, I'm officially committed to run my first half marathon in just over 2 weeks! I'm pretty much feeling like I got this, but any advice from you more seasoned runners would be very welcome.
What he said.
And, some Vaseline or something like it - aquaphor, etc, will go a long way
Yep!
I always use Band Aid Clear Spots for any run longer than 4M
I've basically run my whole life. the past 20 years has been my stress relief. I rum races for fun and the past couple years, I have wanted to do a half marathon with a marathon as the goal after that. work has always interfered with my training.
but my goal is to actually do it this year. I'm not much of a cold weather runner (usually just go to the gym) but I ma mixing in some outdoor runs so far this winter and feel good.
may skip my memorial day weekend festival and shoot for a half marathon on the cape that weekend instead. running is more important than 85 dead cover bands.
physically I can do anything really. I just lack the desire mentally, but that will change this year.
and great job natronzero. you have this.
Do you have a Marathon in mind?
Pick a race and find a training program that you can stick with.
Regardless of the race you choose, you're always going to be training in extreme heat or cold.
Just how it goes!
I've been following this plan as a 12wk "guideline" for my last few Marathons.
http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51139/Marathon-Intermediate-1-Training-Program
Quote from: DoW on January 07, 2017, 07:39:38 PM
I've basically run my whole life. the past 20 years has been my stress relief. I rum races for fun and the past couple years, I have wanted to do a half marathon with a marathon as the goal after that. work has always interfered with my training.
but my goal is to actually do it this year. I'm not much of a cold weather runner (usually just go to the gym) but I ma mixing in some outdoor runs so far this winter and feel good.
may skip my memorial day weekend festival and shoot for a half marathon on the cape that weekend instead. running is more important than 85 dead cover bands.
physically I can do anything really. I just lack the desire mentally, but that will change this year.
and great job natronzero. you have this.
maybe we'll meet up at some local races this spring. The only definite I have in mind is the Lahey Canceer 5K in June, and the Garcia race in July.
Quote from: August on January 02, 2017, 03:52:06 PM
Sooooo....anyone taking up running for the first time for the new year?
Goals for other runners in 2017??
It wasn't necessarily a "new years resolution" thing, but I have started running regularly and taking it serious right before the new year hit.
I've been trying to get into it for several months now, as I'm sure you know since I asked you for tips last year, but I kept slipping out of it and not sticking with it.
I'm running about a mile a day, and I'm just now starting to get to where I can make it a mile without feeling like I'm going to die. Man, I was out of shape.
I used to be really into cycling (road mostly, but I would like to try mountain biking as well). I feel like running/getting into shape will help me ease back into cycling.
Need to make a weight lifting thread. Do any of you fit people lift?
Yes, sorta
Quote from: Superfreakie on January 08, 2017, 07:19:54 PM
Need to make a weight lifting thread. Do any of you fit people lift?
I actually started last week. So, would be interested to see others beginning routine for lifting.
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on January 09, 2017, 11:16:46 AM
Quote from: Superfreakie on January 08, 2017, 07:19:54 PM
Need to make a weight lifting thread. Do any of you fit people lift?
I actually started last week. So, would be interested to see others beginning routine for lifting.
Do it, SF.
My old gym of many years closed last August, leaving me, for a confluence of additional reasons, an orphan until I finally joined the new Y hereabouts.
The downside is this will probably mean less running, which I'd stepped up in frequency a bit to meet (not really) my exercise needs.
Thanks for the tips and encouragement guys!
I'll definitely need to look into some lube or bandages or something. This was the first time I'd had that specific issue, but it makes sense given that it was the farthest I've gone, and it was pretty cold here this past weekend.
I used to focus on my pace a lot, but I think it's definitely been key for me to concentrate on adding distance and improving my stamina, and not beating myself up if I'm a little slower than I'd like. I'm also squeezing in a shorter run once a week or so where I can push my speed a little.
Quote from: Superfreakie on January 08, 2017, 07:19:54 PM
Need to make a weight lifting thread. Do any of you fit people lift?
I lift. Love lifting. Gave up on running. It's just too boring for me. I'll start the thread, because I'm interested as well in learning more about diet and training
Quote from: EdBanky on January 09, 2017, 01:05:12 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on January 08, 2017, 07:19:54 PM
Need to make a weight lifting thread. Do any of you fit people lift?
I lift. Love lifting. Gave up on running. It's just too boring for me. I'll start the thread, because I'm interested as well in learning more about diet and training
Thats almost precisely why I got into cycling in HS....
Yeah the most I'll run is about 20 minutes and that's all I need to feel good. Used to do the couch to 5k app on my phone. When I got to about an hour and a half run I just didn't look forward to it anymore.
My buddy is running a 40 km on the Fundy foot path tomorrow.
Elevation changes 3000 feet every few kms.
Did I mention he's a smoker, lol.
Also sounds dumb.
Best of luck!
aug, grabbed the relive app, looks dope. haven't set it up yet, but I'm guessing it just links up to your garmin device?
Quote from: gah on July 28, 2017, 03:58:29 PM
aug, grabbed the relive app, looks dope. haven't set it up yet, but I'm guessing it just links up to your garmin device?
Relive creates from Strava.
So just DL Strava (it's the shit) and sync your Garmin to your Strava account.
I realize Garmin has their own social network, but Strava is a much larger connection.
Plus, a lot of times, your watch will tell you you ran 2 miles.
Strava takes the average of each segment you ran (or ride or swim) to give you a very real distance for each of your workout.
There's also challenges and clubs and stuff, but it's another great tool to have if you're serious about your sport.
Quote from: Augustus on July 28, 2017, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: gah on July 28, 2017, 03:58:29 PM
aug, grabbed the relive app, looks dope. haven't set it up yet, but I'm guessing it just links up to your garmin device?
Relive creates from Strava.
So just DL Strava (it's the shit) and sync your Garmin to your Strava account.
I realize Garmin has their own social network, but Strava is a much larger connection.
Plus, a lot of times, your watch will tell you you ran 2 miles.
Strava takes the average of each segment you ran (or ride or swim) to give you a very real distance for each of your workout.
There's also challenges and clubs and stuff, but it's another great tool to have if you're serious about your sport.
Cool. So I linked my Garmin to Strava to Relive. See how that works out this weekend when I go for a run. Thanks man.
Sick! Have fun!
Quote from: Augustus on July 28, 2017, 05:28:34 PM
Sick! Have fun!
Oh sweet, it's actually retro-actively recreating the runs I did earlier this week. Very cool.
I have wide feet, and I've been running in New Balances for the past 20 years in part because their selection of wides has been good. I'm finding that to be less the case these days. So, it might be time to go play the field again. Any recommendations?
Quote from: VDB on August 26, 2017, 04:58:04 PM
I have wide feet, and I've been running in New Balances for the past 20 years in part because their selection of wides has been good. I'm finding that to be less the case these days. So, it might be time to go play the field again. Any recommendations?
I'd rec Altras. The new Escalantes are pretty sweet.
https://www.runnersworld.com/shoe/altra-escalante-mens
If you have a specialty running store nearby, try them on and some others, tho.
They'll even evaluate your stride and fit you perfectly.
I wear a 2E in New Balance for walking around but Asics for running, they're good n' wide.
Yo, thanks, guys. Never heard of Altra; I'll have to take a look. As for Asics, I've known people who've raved about them for years, so maybe there's something to that.
Yeah, I do Asics Kayano and Saucony Guides. Asics and Brooks have been the top running shoes forever, so you can't go wrong there, but I'll second Aug's rec of going to a running specialty store and having them take a look at you running and fit you. For a couple years I was in neutral shoes when I needed stability ones, and it made all the difference in this recurring knee pain I was having. They'll know what they're doing. Also, don't skimp on cost, cause a little more spent on the right shoes is worth the savings in doctors visits and physical therapy later on.
So my friend is attempting to set a world record today. 150-kilometre journey through the Fundy Parkway trails, Fundy Footpath and part of Fundy Park, capped off with the entire Dobson Trail in 30 hours.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926 (http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926)
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on September 09, 2017, 07:57:53 AM
So my friend is attempting to set a world record today. 150-kilometre journey through the Fundy Parkway trails, Fundy Footpath and part of Fundy Park, capped off with the entire Dobson Trail in 30 hours.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926 (http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926)
Very cool.
random sidenote, but maybe not so, Ever seen the Barkley Marathons? It's a doc on netflix. Check that out.
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on September 09, 2017, 07:57:53 AM
So my friend is attempting to set a world record today. 150-kilometre journey through the Fundy Parkway trails, Fundy Footpath and part of Fundy Park, capped off with the entire Dobson Trail in 30 hours.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926 (http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926)
Nice! Saw a headline about this on my fb feed, first thing this morning.
Go big!
So my Spring 50K in Oregon was destroyed by fires by some loser lighting fireworks.
Was really pumped on getting out to take in the Gorge Waterfalls in '18.
Fucking crazy how much was destroyed by one idiot.
Quote from: Augustus on September 09, 2017, 04:11:05 PM
So my Spring 50K in Oregon was destroyed by fires by some loser lighting fireworks.
Was really pumped on getting out to take in the Gorge Waterfalls in '18.
Fucking crazy how much was destroyed by one idiot.
Yeah it's heartbreaking, one of my favorite places in the world.
Oh man that's awful.
Quote from: Hicks on September 09, 2017, 09:26:46 PM
Quote from: Augustus on September 09, 2017, 04:11:05 PM
So my Spring 50K in Oregon was destroyed by fires by some loser lighting fireworks.
Was really pumped on getting out to take in the Gorge Waterfalls in '18.
Fucking crazy how much was destroyed by one idiot.
Yeah it's heartbreaking, one of my favorite places in the world.
Really is heartbreaking.
Rainshadow Running is the group that puts on races all around the PNW and this will take quite some time to recover from. The trail system will obviously still be there, but the beauty and wildlife will take years to return. :/
The vibe and community that we feel as Phish fans is mirrored in the Ultrarunning community.
These races are put on and run by like-minded athletes that share their love for trails, running and fellowship.
I've watched this vid 100's of times in anticipation of my 2018 Gorge entry.
Give it a quick watch.
https://vimeo.com/66273634
Such a shame.
totally sucks, on so many levels
Quote from: August on September 10, 2017, 04:30:11 AM
Quote from: Hicks on September 09, 2017, 09:26:46 PM
Quote from: Augustus on September 09, 2017, 04:11:05 PM
So my Spring 50K in Oregon was destroyed by fires by some loser lighting fireworks.
Was really pumped on getting out to take in the Gorge Waterfalls in '18.
Fucking crazy how much was destroyed by one idiot.
Yeah it's heartbreaking, one of my favorite places in the world.
Really is heartbreaking.
Rainshadow Running is the group that puts on races all around the PNW and this will take quite some time to recover from. The trail system will obviously still be there, but the beauty and wildlife will take years to return. :/
The vibe and community that we feel as Phish fans is mirrored in the Ultrarunning community.
These races are put on and run by like-minded athletes that share their love for trails, running and fellowship.
I've watched this vid 100's of times in anticipation of my 2018 Gorge entry.
Give it a quick watch.
https://vimeo.com/66273634
Have they already cancelled it?
The fire was extensive, but there are areas that were less affected than others.
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on September 09, 2017, 07:57:53 AM
So my friend is attempting to set a world record today. 150-kilometre journey through the Fundy Parkway trails, Fundy Footpath and part of Fundy Park, capped off with the entire Dobson Trail in 30 hours.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926 (http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926)
The final tally for Tim was 188.7 km through some very technical trail over 34 hrs.
Almost 4.5 marathons with over 6000 metres in elevation change.
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on September 11, 2017, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on September 09, 2017, 07:57:53 AM
So my friend is attempting to set a world record today. 150-kilometre journey through the Fundy Parkway trails, Fundy Footpath and part of Fundy Park, capped off with the entire Dobson Trail in 30 hours.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926 (http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/new-brunswick/long-distance-new-brunswick-fundy-footpath-ultra-marathon-1.4280926)
The final tally for Tim was 188.7 km through some very technical trail over 34 hrs.
Almost 4.5 marathons with over 6000 metres in elevation change.
Sick accomplishment! Dude needs a beer!!
Quote from: Hicks on September 11, 2017, 01:45:45 PM
Have they already cancelled it?
The fire was extensive, but there are areas that were less affected than others.
QuoteIn light of the fires in the Columbia River Gorge, we are postponing the registration for both the Gorge Waterfalls 100K and 50K until we get a chance to talk with our permitting agencies. This may not be for several weeks or months as they need ample time to assess the condition of the trails. We will keep you all posted as soon as we have more information.
Thank you for your understanding and patience.
So, not yet.
In all honesty, the allure for most is the course surroundings.
I've already switched my focus to a local 70K, but I'll be running the Gorge sometime in the future for sure.
If they do end up having it in 2018, I'm sure they could use your support.
Quote from: Hicks on September 11, 2017, 03:00:38 PM
If they do end up having it in 2018, I'm sure they could use your support.
Unfortunately, my race is the same weekend (as their usual date.)
I totally would, too.
You also get guaranteed entry for the following year when you volunteer ;)
QuoteRace Cancellation
Many of you have been following along with the Eagle Creek fire that is currently burning thousands of acres of trails in the Columbia River Gorge. It is with heavy hearts that we announce we will not be able to hold the 2018 Gorge Waterfalls 50K or 100K next spring.
After a conversation with our ranger at the forest service, she informed us that they would not even begin to start repairing the trails until next spring. We are hopeful that we will be able to hold the race again in the future and we will certainly keep you all posted as soon as we have any more information.
:|
Sucks, but their hands are tied at this point.
Quote from: Augustus on September 14, 2017, 05:26:47 PM
QuoteRace Cancellation
Many of you have been following along with the Eagle Creek fire that is currently burning thousands of acres of trails in the Columbia River Gorge. It is with heavy hearts that we announce we will not be able to hold the 2018 Gorge Waterfalls 50K or 100K next spring.
After a conversation with our ranger at the forest service, she informed us that they would not even begin to start repairing the trails until next spring. We are hopeful that we will be able to hold the race again in the future and we will certainly keep you all posted as soon as we have any more information.
:|
Sucks, but their hands are tied at this point.
Ugh. That bites. But the good news is that they are slowly getting it under control and the forest will be back. We are finally having clear days again here in town. The other did news is that there are a ton of other epic races out here in the PNW, maybe there's another that will take up the slack (and pique your interest).
After years of being pretty much just a treadmill runner going for a half hour at a clip a few times a week, we finally got a dog. So I've started spending my weekends running with my dog going 8 or 9 miles each day. The downside is apparently my second toe sticks out further than my big toe and it's taking a beating. Blistered, black and blue, and extremely tender. Anyone else encounter this and is there anything I can do about it? It's only on one foot, oddly enough, but it's been about 6 months, which is basically when I started running longer distances.
Quote from: khalpin on October 29, 2017, 12:47:47 PM
After years of being pretty much just a treadmill runner going for a half hour at a clip a few times a week, we finally got a dog. So I've started spending my weekends running with my dog going 8 or 9 miles each day. The downside is apparently my second toe sticks out further than my big toe and it's taking a beating. Blistered, black and blue, and extremely tender. Anyone else encounter this and is there anything I can do about it? It's only on one foot, oddly enough, but it's been about 6 months, which is basically when I started running longer distances.
No personal experience with this, but there's this:
http://shoosed.com/shoes/orthopedic/mortons-toe/
Might be time to change shoes.
Also, big ups on getting out there for the longer distances. I used to run when I was in my late 20's, but then quit, but a couple years ago started up again, and have done five 1/2's in the last year, but this summer I re-injured my back (herniated discs) in an unrelated event, and couldn't even walk for awhile, then had to use a cane, then finally got back to walking, then finally getting back into the gym the last couple weeks, and yesterday finally got a run in outside...covered 8 miles at a 11 min pace, but I've never been fast or anything, just trudge along, so I don't care about that really, but man, it just felt really good to be out there running again....
so yeah man, maybe consider changing shoes to one of those off that list...
Nice work, guys!
Blisters and black toenails are part of distance running, unfortunately.
I ran 16 in the pouring rain yesterday and all I got was this stupid blood blister.
Yeah, I'm finding there's always going to be something going on that you're dealing with...I was trying to get ready for full in March, but by Jan, I'd worked my way up to 18 miles, but my right knee was killing me and I was doing ice packs and ibuprofen every day. I just had to come to terms with it wasn't going to happen. I'm hoping to start pushing again for one in the spring tho, building a base right now.
Nice! Was it general "Runner's Knee" symptoms or was it worse?
You can generally run through RK pain without worsening your symptoms.
I'll get knee pain whenever I slack on my supplement stack (Turmeric, Fish Oil & Glucosamine) for joint issues, and they're generally resolved within 5 days when I start taking them again.
Plenty of great marathons to focus on in the Spring!
Quote from: gah on October 30, 2017, 10:47:39 AM... but this summer I re-injured my back (herniated discs) in an unrelated event, and couldn't even walk for awhile, then had to use a cane, then finally got back to walking, then finally getting back into the gym the last couple weeks, and yesterday finally got a run in outside...covered 8 miles at a 11 min pace, but I've never been fast or anything, just trudge along, so I don't care about that really, but man, it just felt really good to be out there running again....
so yeah man, maybe consider changing shoes to one of those off that list...
We're gonna need a story for this.
That pic of Aug's toe is gonna haunt me for years.
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on October 30, 2017, 06:43:17 PM
That pic of Aug's toe is gonna haunt me for years.
I should've got some vid of me slicing it...
Quote from: August on October 30, 2017, 11:06:40 AM
Blisters and black toenails are part of distance running, unfortunately.
i.e. Man up, ya bunch of Nancies.
Quote from: sunrisevt on October 30, 2017, 03:24:09 PM
Quote from: gah on October 30, 2017, 10:47:39 AM... but this summer I re-injured my back (herniated discs) in an unrelated event, and couldn't even walk for awhile, then had to use a cane, then finally got back to walking, then finally getting back into the gym the last couple weeks, and yesterday finally got a run in outside...covered 8 miles at a 11 min pace, but I've never been fast or anything, just trudge along, so I don't care about that really, but man, it just felt really good to be out there running again....
so yeah man, maybe consider changing shoes to one of those off that list...
We're gonna need a story for this.
weekend trip to fells point baltimore + dope airbnb + lady friend + me being an old man and not as flexible as I once was....you can figure it out. :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
but mostly:
:shakehead:
Bless you, you sexy old man, you!
Quote from: sunrisevt on October 31, 2017, 10:36:31 AM
Bless you, you sexy old man, you!
agreed.
and khalpin, agree on shoe comments. you may need to go up 1/2 size. my running shoes typically are about 1/2 size larger than shoes
Was running really well end of summer, then popped a hamstring mid September. took a few weeks off, have been going slow. Did my first run this AM in preparation for the Feaster (Thanksgiving) - it was ugly. It will be an off year
New year, new man! :wtu: :angel:
Making an effort to get back into some sort of shape again and oh man it's killing me. Today was my third day running and working out and I'm still pretty much in the 'this sucks' phase. No joke, I couldn't even make it 1/4 mile on my first run. The combination of the altitude out here, the cold air, and the fact that my pot-smoking ass hasn't exercised for 10 years really did me over.
What's the best way to get started..... should I be going for time or distance? and how about stopping/starting? Today I made it maaaaybe a mile total but stopped and walked 3 times. Felt like I was gonna die about 7 times.
Run 10 minutes, walk 1. Do that 2 or 3 times, then do it twice.
Work your way up to marathons doing 10s and 1s.
Chyeah!
Have a goal before you start.
Either a time goal, or distance.
So if running half of a mile is tough, make that your goal and don't stop until you hit it.
Slowly increase your goal after you hit each one.
Yeah, pretty much what they said. I was going to recommend just building up to running 1/2 hour daily at a pace comfortable enough to maintain.
I used the Couch to 5K program which worked for me. It's really gradual, and starts with a lot of walking. But it worked for me. I need a plan or program spelled out for me. If I left it up to myself I wouldn't get it done. You can just google couch to 5k and find the plan.
Quote from: August on January 05, 2018, 06:54:48 PM
Chyeah!
I knew there was one thing I could count on getting you psyched about!
Yeah bud! So I started with walking 4 min, running 1 min, did that for 30 mins, then started increasing the run segment 3 walk/2 run, then 2 walk/3run, then 1 walk, 4 run, etc basically 5 min increments....til i was running the full 30 mins, then just started upping the time. You'll be running long distances in no time.
Speaking of, ran a 16 miler the other day in 26 degree weather. After doing a handful of half's over the last year and a half, decided to push it to the next level and try and do a full for my 41st birthday in March. It's an incredibly daunting mileage...the other day, after I hit 13 miles, I was like,w ell, it's like I just had to run a half marathon to get to the start of a 5k, that's all. Just three quarters of a mile to go....and then I thought, and then do 10 more....and the insanity of that just started to cause me to start laughing hysterically like a maniac....and just as suddenly, I got dead silent at the enormity of it. Any advice there Aug, on training for your first full?
Anyhow, I don't mind running in the cold, but this snow has put a damper on my training this week.
Sick! First bit of advice is to have fun with your training!
The long run is king. Knock those out and try your darndest to get your weekday runs in, especially when it's the last thing you wanna do during these cold weeks.
Which race is it?
that, and don't worry about time / pace. Be comfortable, go slow
Oh, and get on Strava ;)
So when does this get 'fun'?
I've powered through 5 days now, really felt I needed a rest today. My body is tired and my brain is confused at what I've been putting myself through!
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on January 07, 2018, 11:59:18 AM
So when does this get 'fun'?
I've powered through 5 days now, really felt I needed a rest today. My body is tired and my brain is confused at what I've been putting myself through!
Take the rest.
Have you been listening to music on your runs?
Quote from: August on January 07, 2018, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on January 07, 2018, 11:59:18 AM
So when does this get 'fun'?
I've powered through 5 days now, really felt I needed a rest today. My body is tired and my brain is confused at what I've been putting myself through!
Take the rest.
Have you been listening to music on your runs?
For some reason I actually have not been...
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on January 07, 2018, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: August on January 07, 2018, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on January 07, 2018, 11:59:18 AM
So when does this get 'fun'?
I've powered through 5 days now, really felt I needed a rest today. My body is tired and my brain is confused at what I've been putting myself through!
Take the rest.
Have you been listening to music on your runs?
For some reason I actually have not been...
Might help. Load up a 10 or 15min track and don't quit until it's done.
I've made a bunch of mixes to help with solo long runs.
Quote from: August on January 06, 2018, 07:18:36 PM
Sick! First bit of advice is to have fun with your training!
The long run is king. Knock those out and try your darndest to get your weekday runs in, especially when it's the last thing you wanna do during these cold weeks.
Which race is it?
The Shamrock Marathon in VA Beach, so it's a totally flat course, so that's cool. Yeah, this past weekend is the first time I've missed my Sunday long run, but we got a foot of snow, and its just made the roads a sheet of ice for the last 4 days. Do you think I should try and make it up by running it mid week this week in place of one of my shorts runs, and then still do my Sunday long run? Or just skip it at this point? I've still got 10 weeks to go, so it's probably not a big deal?
Quote from: August on January 07, 2018, 10:34:02 AM
Oh, and get on Strava ;)
Oh yeah, I'm on there now. And I joined a local run club on the app too, which has been motivating, especially on those cold days, and you see everyone else went out and did their runs.
Quote from: slslbs on January 07, 2018, 10:18:38 AM
that, and don't worry about time / pace. Be comfortable, go slow
Yeah, at first I was thinking it'd be cool to finish in 5 hours (11:27 pace), and my 16 miler the other day I was within pace of that, but I know the reality of keeping that up for another 2 hours just isn't gonna happen, so I'm just looking to finish really, and I'll be happy with that. I did my best half at a 10:23 pace, so I don't really know how that converts over to estimating a full marathon pace though.
Personally, missing 1 long run isn't a crime.
Just stay on schedule
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on January 07, 2018, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: August on January 07, 2018, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on January 07, 2018, 11:59:18 AM
So when does this get 'fun'?
I've powered through 5 days now, really felt I needed a rest today. My body is tired and my brain is confused at what I've been putting myself through!
Take the rest.
Have you been listening to music on your runs?
For some reason I actually have not been...
try going 4 days week, no more than 2 - 3 days in a row.
Come at me!
https://www.strava.com/athletes/9350641
10 weeks out is not that bad if you miss a LR.
You might feel great if you bang it out on Wed and then nail your weekend LR, too ;)
5hrs is a great goal.
If you've ran a 2:16 Half, it's VERY obtainable.
My one bit of advice regarding LRs is to run comfortably.
If you're familiar w/ LSD, most programs tell you to run 60-90sec slower than goal pace.
Just go out and get your miles done. If you run close to goal pace (11:20), that's great! Especially if it feels easy.
Some runs will be slower and some faster.
But 10 weeks is a LONG time from now and you will be stronger/faster by then. Go for sub-5.
We'll talk nutrition/hydration next time ;)
Quote from: August on January 08, 2018, 03:24:11 PM
Come at me!
https://www.strava.com/athletes/9350641
10 weeks out is not that bad if you miss a LR.
You might feel great if you bang it out on Wed and then nail your weekend LR, too ;)
5hrs is a great goal.
If you've ran a 2:16 Half, it's VERY obtainable.
My one bit of advice regarding LRs is to run comfortably.
If you're familiar w/ LSD, most programs tell you to run 60-90sec slower than goal pace.
Just go out and get your miles done. If you run close to goal pace (11:20), that's great! Especially if it feels easy.
Some runs will be slower and some faster.
But 10 weeks is a LONG time from now and you will be stronger/faster by then. Go for sub-5.
We'll talk nutrition/hydration next time ;)
I'm very familiar with LSD....
Also, anyone else on Strava get at me too...really helps me with motivation. Just don't look at my 2018 stats lol. Been a slow start.
https://www.strava.com/athletes/76968
Warning - this is going to be a little bit of the feels here for me, so just be warned. My entire life, I have been the fat kid. I played football in high school - until I decided that burning trees in the church parking lot and listening to the Sex Pistols was cooler. Either way, I absolutely hated the stigma that comes with being the fat kid, and just kind of hid behind that self deprecating bullshit for way too many years.
Around 2009, I had an epiphany. I had always eaten pretty well - my mom always had fresh fruit and veggies at meals... and when most families were eating Hamburger Helper, we were eating stuff like white beans with chicken, or healthy stir fry with quinoa or something that most of my friends thought was "weird". It was normal for me. My mom was (and continues to be) excited about new health foods, and eating pretty clean overall. It wasn't called eating clean back then, but the same deal. So my epiphany was - you eat all this healthy stuff, and you like it - how the Hell are you still fat? Well the answers require a lot of digging, but they are super apparent when you just look at it. I was able to buy other foods as well, and who doesn't like cheeseburgers and tacos? When you eat all of those, and then tank down 2-3 servings of this healthier stuff for dinner, you can still blow up the scales.
I decided I'd start running. Not fast, but running. I had never run a mile in my life, but I was bound and determined to do so. I ran slow, and what most people call laughable, but who cares, fatty was running. I got used to cars of people passing me and hearing them laugh, but it honestly just started motivating me even more. I would think "It's pretty easy to laugh at the fat guy running while you suck down another cancer stick and eat garbage in the car... fuck those people".
Next I broke the plain of 2 miles, then 3, and finally, I ran a 5K. After doing this on an every other day basis, I started to think I might enter a couple of races. Not to compete with anyone but myself, I entered my first 5K. With all this running, not eating garbage, I dropped all of this weight I had been carrying around - I lost 103lbs.
I ran my first distance race in June of 2009, a 20K called the Dam to Dam in Des Moines. They bus you out at 5AM to Saylorville dam, and you run 20K through the outskirts of the city, finally ending at the downtown levee, completing a Dam to Dam. I ran every step. I didn't finish fast, I ran like 12 minute miles, but I ran every damn step. I jammed Phish hard, ate gel packs, and hydrated like a mother. Being a fat runner (even at my thinnest, I'm still a fat runner), I sweat like insanity. I have To replenish that stuff or I start getting light headed. Again, some more accomplished runners seem to laugh at this, but anyone who truly loves running is beyond supportive. Running is the best fraternity I have ever been a part of.
Anyway, life gets in the way. I started burying emotions again, and eating straight garbage. I got married in 2015, and packed on even more weight after doing so, shit I had a hot wife, why worry about how I look, or more specifically - how I feel. I ballooned to 343lbs. Every time I would go for an aviation medical, they would tell me how I had to lose weight. Who wants a super obese pilot anyway? As many of you know, my wife took off in September. The single most devastating thing I have ever had happen to me... but as all of you awesome Paugers and other friends pointed out to me, the best advice is to focus on your kid, and take care of yourself. I wasn't sure how, but I got my ass into some old running shoes, and started walking. I was so removed from running, I wasn't sure I'd ever do what it takes to get back into shape... but I just kept putting one foot in front of the other... slowly.
I started cutting calories, and making sure that my walking workouts were at least 30 minutes, and I was often working out 6-7 days a week (too much, but I had to have it at this point in my life).
Yesterday, in Savanah, Georgia, I weighed in at 268lbs. Still pretty fat, but I have lost 75lbs since September, and I know I'm on my way to even more. The weather was nice, so I laced up the new Brooks runners I snagged a few weeks back, and put that same one foot in front of the other. I ran outside, and for the first time outside since 2013, I ran a 5K. It was slow, but fatty is back.
Life is fucked up - it kicks you in the face, and sometimes that's exactly what you need. They are ending the Dam to Dam this year, after a long span, and my ass is going to be there - slow as shit, but dancing along to my favorite shows along the way.
*I'm flying at the moment, but when we land, I'll update with some progress pics.*
^^
that's awesome
working on the physical and mental aspects.
honestly nothing clears my head like running. I get so much mental stuff accomplished without even thinking about it - whether it's stress reduction that I need, problem solving, writing a talk, whatever. That's one of the reasons why I never listen to music when I run outside, even though I have music playing almost every other waking moment when I'm not at work.
keep at it!!
Great work, man!
It's true. Running will clear your mind like nothing else, especially when you're out there for a bit.
As for running "heavy", I'm one of the top ranked Clydesdales (185-199lbs) in NY, so don't sweat the weight thing. ;) Just run!
Keep up the good work, man!!
Solid work man! Keep at it! Totally how I feel about running...it's my meditative space...so much shit gets worked out running...I'm proud of you for starting up again, and def keep us posted on your progress with the dam to dam training...And as for being big...bro! You're talking to Husky Pants here...At my heaviest I was at 213...quitting drinking I dropped 20, eating healthier, dropped another 20, added in running and dropped another 20...at my lowest and when I was averaging 30 mile weeks, I hit 152...back up to about 168 now, but I'm working my way back up in mileage so that might start to drop back down. I Didn't do it to lose weight though, I was just trying to be healthier and like you, used to run like 10 years ago, but then other things took priority. Either way, the weight aspect is just one part of it. There's so much more that running brings tho...my favorite thing tho has to be that meditative, quieting of my thoughts, reflective, solitary nature of it...Anyhow, thanks for the advice and support aug and caravan, I'll find you guys on strava.
The NYC Marathon lottery opened up today.
It truly is THE BEST road marathon you'll ever run.
https://www.tcsnycmarathon.org/plan-your-race/run-in-2018?_ga=2.132090383.1002625974.1516012046-469134994.1509977117
Quote from: August on January 15, 2018, 04:43:13 PM
The NYC Marathon lottery opened up today.
It truly is THE BEST road marathon you'll ever run.
https://www.tcsnycmarathon.org/plan-your-race/run-in-2018?_ga=2.132090383.1002625974.1516012046-469134994.1509977117
So many questions. I'm glad they leave that open for a month tho to enter the lottery. It's definitely something I'd consider, but I also just want to focus on the first one. I heard someone say what would be ideal in training for a marathon is finishing without hating running. :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Anyhow, I'm starting to have a ton of questions pop up, and have been trying to read up some when I get a chance, but more so just end up watching short youtube coaching/training segments.
But, can we talk about pacing and mileage? I'm trying to stick with my beginners schedule as best as I can, but some days I just go further. Today was supposed to be a 4 miler, I did 6, the other day was supposed to be 14, I did 15. Just feel like, some days it's a struggle to get the miles, other days, I just feel like pushing it. My biggest fear is over training and having to pull back a little to let my knee stop hurting or deal with plantar fasciitis or something like that. I'm not having those issues now, but I don't want to either.
My longest run in the training schedule is 20 miles, but one guy I watched the other day said that was crazy because on race day that means there's still 23% of the race mileage you've never even done, and it'd be more appropriate to get a 23-24 mile run in (approx 3 weeks) before the race day. Another person said, you should not just hit 20 miles once during your training, but should do it at least 5 times(!) so that you're comfortable with that level. Another video said, it has nothing to do with mileage, but about how much time you spend running, and to slow your pace, get less miles, but increase the time you're on your feet moving forward each week by 15-20 mins.
So questions...should I be doing more miles on days I feel I can, or just stick to the schedule? Should I try and make some of the 15+ scheduled miles into 20's instead? Pacing, if 11:27 is what I want race day, my shorter runs should be 10-10:30, medium runs at race pace, and long runs 12:30? These last two times I pushed it (16 and 15 milers), after 13 miles, I just really dropped from like consistent steady 11:30's to 14 min miles for the last few, and just reeeeally struggled. And had nasty headaches for the rest of the day taboot....but I blame that on not hydrating well. But that's a whole other conversation. Sorry for all the ?'s....just starting to have a lot pop up lately, and wanting to do this right.
OH, and for reference, this is the schedule I'm using:
http://www.shamrockmarathon.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2017/11/Shamrock-Beginner-Marathon-2018.pdf
If you're feeling good on your runs, definitely go for it!
An extra mile or two (I wouldn't push past two) is a great confidence boost!
Honestly, I feel like three rest days from running is a little too much. Even if you did 2-3 on a rest day super easy, you'll benefit.
As for 20s.....One is plenty good for your first full. You're feeling good on that 20, push yourself for ONE more mile. The goal is getting to the start line as close to 100% as you can and CONFIDENT that you're gonna finish.
IF! Training is going great and you really feel like throwing down an extra 20, make your planned 17M an 18M and make that next 18 a 20. I didn't get into multiple 20s or high 20s until I had a few fulls under my belt.
I ran one 20 for first few and it was good "enough" to hit my goal times. I used this plan for my first 3 or 4.
http://www.nyrr.org/sites/default/files/Marathon%20Training%20Plans%20-%20Conservative.pdf
Any questions, post away!
You got Sls and Sunrise that have plenty experience and we'll all have a different approach.
Just keep having fun and keep your eye on the prize!
Nice! Thanks for the help, yeah, I won't inundate you all at once with all the questions. I'll post them as they come up, but that's definitely helpful. And I like that NYRR training schedule; the one that I have just lists mileage, where as that one lists the type of runs. And agreed, even though, the schedule I've been using so far has one rest day and two rest or cross training days, I've been trying to do a little with weights one day, and getting on the elliptical or out for a short 1-3 mile run on off days. Thanks again.
Yeah, man!
What are you doing for nutrition/hydration on your LRs?
I'm shut down until Mon with the flu so I need some running talk!!
I'll weigh in too
Agree, 1 or 2 extra miles if you feel good is fine, no more
Run the long runs slower than race pace
How many 20's?. Most of the time I ran 2. A 20 and a 22 or something like that. 5 is too many.
My "plan" was similar to Augs except that I don't have time to run an >6m mid week so I improvised. I would run 4 days total and go to the gym 1 - 2 days. Weekday runs were usually 4 - 6 with tempos / intervals once a week. My goal time for my 1st was 4hr (9 min pace). I ran it in 4:07, finished strong at a good pace and felt like I could run another mile after I was done so I was quite happy. If I was going to do another and not care about time I would do the same thing.
Expect to have some aches/pains while training. You'll figure out what is normal for you and what is not.
Find out what your race will be having re drinks / gels and experiment with that. If you don't like it, just find something you do like and bring it yourself.
get well soon Aug!!
Thanks for all the mad support, it certainly makes me feel like I'm on the right track. I'm not training for anything other than a 5K in Wilmington, DE in March for the Beau Biden Foundation. I think there was talk of them opening a 10K as well. Not sure I'm going to be ready to run that far by then, but I might be. I'm running 5K 3-4 times a week now, and hitting the gym on at least two opposing days for elliptical, and strength training. My ultimate goal is to just be ready to run the 20K in June, and I think it's possible for sure.
Nice!
That's plenty of time to hit 20K.
Just slowly add mileage each week and make a 10M your longest run ~3wks before race day.
Keep running!
Quote from: slslbs on January 17, 2018, 07:41:52 PM
I'll weigh in too
Agree, 1 or 2 extra miles if you feel good is fine, no more
Run the long runs slower than race pace
How many 20's?. Most of the time I ran 2. A 20 and a 22 or something like that. 5 is too many.
My "plan" was similar to Augs except that I don't have time to run an >6m mid week so I improvised. I would run 4 days total and go to the gym 1 - 2 days. Weekday runs were usually 4 - 6 with tempos / intervals once a week. My goal time for my 1st was 4hr (9 min pace). I ran it in 4:07, finished strong at a good pace and felt like I could run another mile after I was done so I was quite happy. If I was going to do another and not care about time I would do the same thing.
Expect to have some aches/pains while training. You'll figure out what is normal for you and what is not.
Find out what your race will be having re drinks / gels and experiment with that. If you don't like it, just find something you do like and bring it yourself.
get well soon Aug!!
Yeah, the aches and pains...I'm learning to just listen to my body and realize when maybe I should skip a day or when it's ok to push through.
As for drinks/gels...they'll have water, gatorade, and GU gels...I haven't used GU gels yet, but I'm gonna grab some to see how I do with them. I've been using Glukos (see link below), just cause i found them at a race once and got hooked on their gummies, which are pretty good. They also have these tablets which you could drop in a water bottle, but I found they don't really break apart, so I just used them as a chewable tablet, which they said was ok to do to, but didn't like it too much. Was way too sweet and left me really thirsty. And they have these "gels" but they're really just liquid pouches, like gatorade, which I've liked because they quench my thirst since I haven't been carrying water on my long runs. Usually down them around the 6, 10, and 14 mile marks right now...
Anyhow, I'm still experimenting with all that. What I need to do is get some sort of water thing going, either those hand helds, or the waist packs, or something. I've run all over town at this point, and we don't have ANY water fountains...like none. Last time I just told my buddy I was gonna be running by his house in about an hour, and was gonna stop real quick for a water, so that worked out, but I can't do that all the time. Any suggestions? Also, how often should I be taking in calories/gels/gu's? Any ones you guys likes in particular?
https://www.glukosenergy.com/
I would highly recommend getting a handheld (~20oz.) with a good size pouch for gels.
I've been using Tailwind as my main nutrition for long runs/races.
https://www.tailwindnutrition.com
Each scoop is generally good for an hour. So two scoops in a bottle and a few gels and I'm good.
During LRs when it's crazy hot out, I'll try and hit up a gas station or something for a quart of Gatorade and refill.
Sometimes some pretzels or Fritos, too!
As for Gu, I'm pretty much set on Salted Watermrlon.
The Rocktane is kind of weird tasting.
Definitely start experimenting soon!
For my long runs (> 16M) I used to drive the course ahead of time and put water bottles out. It was a PIA.
I got one of those belts with 8 oz containers, much more conveniant
If you're gonna do Gatorade, 1 glass every water stop (usually 2 miles). Find out what flavor they will have to make sure you can stomach it. I have no problem with it, but some people do.
I forget the timing for gels, but you can look the carb content compared to 8oz of gatorade and do the same.
Cool, just ordered a sampler stick pack from Tailwind. It comes with 7 stick packs in a variety of flavors, including a couple of the caffeinated ones. Says they're 200 cal's per pack, each pack to be mixed with 20-40 oz water.
As for the handheld, I guess it'll just be a matter of getting used to carrying it? That's the one thing I've been hesitant about, and was leaning more towards the waistpacks...but then I feel like that'd be uncomfortable too. I might just ended up buying both and seeing which works out better. But yeah, going with no water on 10+ miles kinda sucks. I've just been trying to be good about constantly staying hydrated and drinking a lot more water throughout the day, which I guess is good for you anyway.
It's funny you mentioned pretzels and fritos, cause I find I think about eating a lot when I'm running :hereitisyousentimentalbastard Like imagining what I'm gonna eat after this fucking long run! I've been taking in a lot more calories per day this last month especially, that's for damn sure. Taking a few bucks with me though is probably a good idea to hit up a gas station, didn't think of that.
take tp also...
and remember - lubricate
Yep!! 😂
Body Glide and band aids are essential!
I use Band Aid spots pretty much for every run after learning the hard way (100x) about bloody nips.
Body Glide btwn the legs and around the waistband will help with chaffing.
Personally, I knew the belt wasn't for me about 3min into a LR. First and last time I used it. :-D
Honestly, the handheld has saved me on some trail runs when I took a spill and it kind of softened the landing.
Gu is generally every 45min but I generally take them at 10, 15, 19, 23
I love that we are getting into gel/race fuel talks, as I'm just getting back into the game, and a lot has changed since I was running any decent amount.
I have run/worked out every day for the last 7 days (alternating some strength and interval work every other day). I don't feel TOO sore, but also feel like a day off is probably warranted so I don't burn out or injure anything. Again, I realize I'm not even close to you studs rocking major miles, but I'm certainly feeling damn good about myself.
Back to the nutrition and gel talk, when I was running before I was really in to Hammer products. They are primarily biking, but some of their nutrition is next level. They make tons of supplements, many of which I have no experience with because I think some of that is hype for sure. I will say that the Race Caps Supreme and Premium Insurance Caps (Daily Multi) are pretty good stuff. I do not really ever take any of the energy boost stuff, because I hate artificially jacking my heart rate etc. with anything other than good ole' caffeine.
Before I pull the trigger on their supplement package, I'm open to any other suggestions you all might have. I'm going to do a little comparison with the GU gels and the Hammer gels just to see which does better with me, but I don't really get into those until I'm logging longer runs than I am now, so when the time is right, I'll give that a go.
Hammer/Heed/Clif/Energy Labs are essentially all the same products just marketed differently.
There's been a few races I've ran where there was only Heed at aid stations instead of Gatorade.
No biggy, but if you're used to supplementing with Gatorade on course, it's a little weird.
As for Hammer, I have little experience with them other than their salt caps (which I don't really need).
Most local shops stock all this stuff, so you might wanna mix and match before you go all in with any particular brand.
I will say that I love Cliff Blox, which are big chews, but they're just too bulky to carry around on a run.
As for the tp, yeah, learned that one Sunday morning on a trail run, where I had to run into the woods for an emergency situation. Luckily, for some random reason, I had picked up a trail map that day which I normally don't do, but was trying some different routes and thought it's be helpful to have just in case I got lost. Came in useful, just not in the way I thought. :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
I actually haven't had any issue with the bloody nips (yet), but I do remember that happening many years ago. But maybe it's just the new material that workout/running clothes are made of? I dunno, I'll def keep it in mind. As for the body glide, hadn't picked that up yet, have been pretty good with the in between the legs chaffing (just lucky so far, maybe?), but I did have some issues around the waistband, and didn't even think about applying it there, but I will now.
I don't know anything about the hammer/heed stuff, so I can't comment. But I was wondering about taking a cliff bar out with me for a run, since I use them all the time with hiking, but was thinking it might be too much, to carry, and in my stomach with running vs. hiking...
Anyhow, I'm just stoked to have you guys as a resource to bounce stuff off of. Big time thanks.
Being the resident fatty runner, I can shed a little light on what I do for the nipple chaffing issues. It's DEFINITELY an issue for me, so I immediately started wearing compression. I'm a Nike slut, but UA makes quality as well. I usually buy a size down just to keep it tight, but if the compression doesn't bother you, it definitely keeps chaffing issues at bay.
ETA: Here's a couple pictures of my progress. If you're on my facebook, you've seen it, but I'm pretty damn proud of where I've made it even this far, so I'm totally not above posting it again haha.
The first is me on the infamous grassy knoll in Dallas - Initial Type Rating school, January of 2016. I would go on to gain another 8lbs after this picture.
The second is Monday after my workout.
Nice!
So would you wear two shirts in hot weather, tho?
Quote from: August on January 20, 2018, 03:17:56 PM
Nice!
So would you wear two shirts in hot weather, tho?
It really doesn't bother me at all. I just make sure that the outer layer is plenty wicking (I like the little air holes personally), and it almost provides a cooling layer. That's just me though.
Also, apparently I need a tutorial on how to resize a picture to post on the board here haha.
That's amazing progress, man!
Keep running!
When you have a long term running goal and you keep nailing your miles, your body just becomes a furnace and you're constantly gonna be melting more and more off. Be happy with how far you've come and be excited about what has yet to be uncovered!
Great job!
Mileage is king. You'll build mental strength while nailing down your LRs and your short runs, too.
The old running saying is "It doesn't get easier, you just get stronger." and that is the absolute truth.
The weight comes right off just like pace.
I was 255 on the first day I decided to run.
I couldn't run half of a mile. I gave up. I gave up again and again over the next two weeks but I kept at it.
Fast forward to today and running is one of the most important and rewarding aspects of my life.
Here I am right before I made the decision to change my lifestyle
(https://i.imgur.com/sVTWK3v.jpg)
And this is me after I finished my first 50K race
(https://i.imgur.com/3RnFju9.png)
I'm still "big", but it doesn't affect my ability.
This is what the top 200 pounders on LI look like ;)
(https://i.imgur.com/lFkdQz1.png)
Just as fast (and way faster) than the skinny guys.
Keep your head clear and positive, man.
That's power, man.
Thanks for sharing that, it keeps me moving forward.
Today I have felt really kind of out of it... maybe a little virus or something - either way, it was going to be a day off for me anyway, but I'm feeling better now, and hopefully will get right back on the horse tomorrow.
My mileage is increasing, and I DEFINITELY get the "it doesn't get easier, you just get stronger" thing.
I never thought I'd be at 5K distance by this time of the year... but I just keep pushing.
Let's do it!
Yeah, man!
Never lose focus of the big picture.
Running sick is easy.
Neck up = go easy
Neck down = take rest
Quote from: G. Augusto on January 21, 2018, 02:25:55 PM
Yeah, man!
Never lose focus of the big picture.
Running sick is easy.
Neck up = go easy
Neck down = take rest
Says the guy that busted out a 5K and 5 miler back to back days with the flu. Solid work man! :clap:
And thanks to you and todd for the kudos yesterday. John, you should hop on Strava too.
Also, I'm gonna go ahead and retract my statement regarding chaffing and bloody nips...I guess I just hadn't gone out long enough to experience it until yesterday. :shakehead: I'll be grabbing some body glide and bandaiding up next long run for sure. :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
:-D
It was inevitable!
If you run, ride, walk, hike on Strava, you'll get kudos from me.
You had a great run!
Strava is a great tool. It's great for motivation and a great way to be held accountable.
It's that silent push knowing that all of your splits or whatever or just laid right out there.
"Dude! What happened to you at Mile 6??" "I had to take a shit!"
Also, this is a great site if you wanna plan out some new LRs/runs.
There's an elevation tab at the bottom, too.
https://onthegomap.com/#/create
I use it all the time to plan out our group Sunday LRs as we'll usually have a long distance and then a shorter option for others.
Thanks man. Yeah, I thought about what you said yesterday re:it doesn't get easier, you just get stronger. Felt like the first 10 miles I was just on cruise control, by the time I hit 13, I was almost preparing for things to start falling apart at 14 cause that's where I've had trouble my last two long runs, but I pushed right past that and 15 too and was like, whoa, I guess something is happening here. What funny though is I thought, if I can do a half, and tack on a 10K, that'd be pretty good for today. 18.3 That's what I'll do. And then, later in the afternoon, I was like wait, 13.1 and 6.2 is 19.3! But 3 hours and 15 miles in...math gets hard. :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
I'll tell you what was helpful for me yesterday, I've been experimenting with run/walk times, and so I set the garmin to 5:30/0:30 run/walk segments, shooting to maintain a 12min pace. I figured that way, every half mile or so, I'd get an indication of where I was at and adjust accordingly. But after 5-6 miles I realized I had all this time "in the bank" cause I was still going about 30-45 sec faster per mile, So I started skipping the mid mile 30 sec break and just making the mile walk break 1:30, and I think that really helped me push and get those extra 2-3 miles. Bottom line, I did 3 miles further than my last long run and at a 30 sec quicker pace. Def going to continue experimenting with that though.
Yeah, man!
Whatever works for you!
Everyone will have a different approach, but if you can run faster and longer and still feel pretty good at the end, you're on to bigger things.
Apparently I never paid attention to what you were all talking about with Strava. I'll get on that!
Quote from: aphineday on January 22, 2018, 02:04:24 PM
Apparently I never paid attention to what you were all talking about with Strava. I'll get on that!
It's an amazing resource!
First, it's basically your lifetime running log.
If you run with a watch, you can sync up your Strava acct to your watch.
Otherwise, there's a Strava app if you run with just your phone.
Along your normal routes, your bound to see "segments" that other Strava users have also run and can see your progress on those sections which is cool.
There also monthly challenges and some are known to throw you free stuff (shoes, clothes, codes) for completing them. No need to win the challenge. Just finish.
It's a great tool. Plus, we'll hook you up with kudos ;)
https://www.strava.com/athletes/9350641
I'll add in to the before and after pics of running in my life as well. That race pic is from fall 2016, and I slacked a little last year, but I'm trying to work my way back to that place...where going out for a run felt like ...riding a bike. Like, my body was just more efficient with it's energy use, and I remember that feeling that aug mentioned about your body feeling like a furnace, where my entire mindset was different in terms of what I was eating too, it was more like I only saw it as fuel for running...and how efficient could I make this thing, at converting what I was putting in, into output energy for running...Anyhow, keep at it brother!
That's great progress!
You know how you got to race weight, just focus on mileage and your body will do the rest of the work.
A super healthy diet isn't necessary to run well, nor would I advocate eating crappy all the time, just being mindful throughout the week. I really only eat super clean a week out from big races. Hydration is king, tho.
You guys are crushing it!
Very inspiring transformations!
Maybe you'll even inspire WTU to stick with running!
So after my run Sunday, I had this pain in my left foot just behind my little toe that had progressively been getting more and more painful over the last week after each run. But Sunday it was kinda bad and I spent the afternoon icing it and keeping it elevated. It was painful to stand or put any weight on it. I don't know what it was, but I decided to lay off running for a few days so as to not chance injuring it further.
Def not plantar fasciitis, because I've experienced that before. And my shoes are good. I got two pairs, and rotate them, and have about 150 miles on each. Best I could tell it was maybe a micro metatarsal stress fracture from increasing the miles so much? It was the first time I'd been pushing over 40 miles, and over 8 days time had covered 54 miles, which is insane for me.
Anyhow, I'm heading down to Big Bend Nat Park for the next 4 days to hike the Outer Mountain Loop of the Chiso's Mountains, gonna cover 35-40 miles over 3 days, so I didn't wanna chance ruining my trip. And 4 days of laying off it, I feel good, and yesterday I was itching like crazy to go run, but kept myself from doing so. But I guess I'll know more after my trip. If I can hike and do the elevation gains and drops and miles and come back ok, then I'll pick up my training as scheduled. If not, I might need to lay off it for another week. But with 6 weeks left to go, I don't want to take too long of a break and lose momentum. Thoughts?
Just hike and don't sweat running.
Go for an easy run when you get back.
You'll be good to go. This is why most training plans are so long.
There's a built in buffer for injury/sickness/whatever.
You're good. You got 9 other toes, dude.
Quote from: August on February 01, 2018, 04:07:07 PM
Just hike and don't sweat running.
Go for an easy run when you get back.
You'll be good to go. This is why most training plans are so long.
There's a built in buffer for injury/sickness/whatever.
You're good. You got 9 other toes, dude.
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Truth.
I've gotten used to having some degree of pain, in my hips, knees, feet, etc...but it doesn't last long. This just bothered me because it was progressing. What's crazy is after a few days off, I kind of miss the pain/soreness/etc.
While we're on the topic: post run recovery. What do you do after runs, stretching wise? I suck at stretching and basically just don't do it. Like ever. But last week, I did a couple morning yoga for runners sessions just off youtube, which actually felt pretty good. I probably should add that in once or twice a week to force myself to stretch. I do have a stick roller that I'll occasionally do, but not often. And I have a little roller ball that I keep at work, and throughout the day take a shoe off at a time to roll my foot on to keep plantar issues at bay. But that's about it. Any must-do stretches or things you'd suggest?
during marathon training I would do "the usual" after runs - hamstrings, quads, hip flexors, groin, calf, ITB, pyriformus after runs. Calf is especially important if you have had plantar fasciitis
I recently got one of those rollers and love it, although I don't use it nearly as much as I should. When I'm not "training" for something special I don't stretch as much as I should, either.
Quote from: slslbs on February 01, 2018, 04:59:34 PM
during marathon training I would do "the usual" after runs - hamstrings, quads, hip flexors, groin, calf, ITB, pyriformus after runs. Calf is especially important if you have had plantar fasciitis
I recently got one of those rollers and love it, although I don't use it nearly as much as I should. When I'm not "training" for something special I don't stretch as much as I should, either.
Cool, cool. Yeah, I half ass some of those, but I just looked up a specific stretch for each, and will try and come up with a quick 10 minute post run "routine" of those. Yeah, the roller thing is cool, someone got it for me, but I just haven't gotten into the habit of using it much. The roller ball is easy though when I'm at work at my desk to just slip off a shoe and do for 5 minutes at a time throughout the day.
The stick is my go-to. I have 3 and keep one upstairs, downstairs and in my car.
Kinda hate the foam roller as it's kind of a workout.
I also have a Roll Recovery R8 (https://www.jackrabbit.com/roll-recovery-r8-massage-roller-rr-8.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=PLA&adpos=1o1&scid=scplp605296986462&sc_intid=605296986462&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0suEoPOF2QIVyCWBCh2E-wFoEAkYASABEgJoyPD_BwE) which was a gift and will kick your ass.
Serious deep tissue recovery.
Pre-race, I'll do a few dynamic stretches and maybe a few strides for shorter distances.
Post-run is more dynamic stretches, generally hitting my calves.
I need to do all of these things more, tho.
Quote from: August on January 22, 2018, 02:56:24 PM
Maybe you'll even inspire WTU to stick with running!
Did my complete drop-off in posts here give it away?
:wtu:=busted
I went 5 days straight... then planned to take two days off...which then turned into two weeks....or three....and here we are. I've still been lurking in this thread though, what's that count for? 1/4 mile? 1/2 mile? :shakehead:
Go run today!
Fresh start!
Ok, so what's the secret to keeping your sweaty run stuff all fresh and clean smelling? I'm using the Tide Sport pods right now. Interested in finding out if you all have a better option?
Apparently, fabric softener isn't good for tech material, but my running gear just get lumped into all of my regular laundry anyway.
I just wash them like regular clothes! :-D
Yeah, I just include all my running/workout clothes in my regular laundry. Maybe that's not the best idea, but I'm too lazy to separate everything out.
Trip to Big Bend Outer Mountain Loop was sick, covered 35 miles in 3 days (8/18/9) with between 12-14K in elevation gain/change. Took it easy the first day, and then killed some mileage day two, and finished the loop day 3. My buddy who is a big time hiker was wore out the 2nd and 3rd days from the first days climb, and so I took the lead and was crushing it. We did a backcountry hiking trip through Zion back in November, and he said he could tell my marathon training had paid off in my hiking. This is also why I run... so I can go do shit I love like hiking trips or Jazzfest (you'd be surprised at how being in better shape greatly increases the enjoyment factor of a festival trip!).
Anyhow, the morning we were gonna come back, I saw there was a state park nearby, so I went out for a 4 mile trail run. It was slow going because of the two 600 foot climbs over loose, rocky terrain, but it felt good being free of a 20lb pack...
Then the day I got back, I did a 5 miler, and still felt good, so I think I just needed a little break from the high mileage runs and mentally needed a break from the rigidity of the training schedule. Pumped for a long run this weekend.
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Dude!
Totally sick!
I had a friend tell me that applying body glide to his nipples prevents chaffing and bleeding. I can attest, painfully, that this is simply not true. :shakehead: Bandaids it is.
Quote from: gah on February 12, 2018, 03:53:14 PM
I had a friend tell me that applying body glide to his nipples prevents chaffing and bleeding. I can attest, painfully, that this is simply not true. :shakehead: Bandaids it is.
:-D
Books. Over the last couple years, I've read or listened to some books, that have helped with motivation and also offer advice.
The Courage to Start: A Guide to Running for Your Life, by John Bingham - short chapters, with plenty of humor. Many, many years ago, when I used to get Runners World, I read his column first every time.
Running for Mortals, by Jenny Hadfield and John Bingham - also humorous but a lot of good initial advice for beginners, or those just coming back like myself
The Non-Runners Marathon Trainer, by David Whitsett and Forrest Dolgener - a 16 week training guide, with both the physical, but also psychological aspects of facing a marathon...I've found this to line up pretty well up or down by a week with my journey thru the training process
How Running Changed My Life, by Garth Battista - a collection of short 2-5 page essays by runners of all ages and levels, really great bathroom reading, short and quick and easy stories, but all powerful and that you can connect with.
Audible:
Born to Run, by Christopher McDougall - pretty essential reading/listening
Running Ransom Road, by Caleb Daniloff - personal memoir of a guy facing his past addictions, sobriety, and past thru running; personally, I really connected with this guys story
Eat and Run, by Scott Jurek - cool to hear his stories, and how having a vegan/vegetarian diet is compatible with a running life; the narrator on Audible makes him sound like a dick, and maybe he is, but I feel like if I read it, I'd have a different experience. Still cool tho.
Almost done with Eat and Run, any others you guys have read or would rec? I've also got Running and Being by George Sheehan, but it's a little too heady for me right now.
Ultramarathon Man: Dean Karnazes
Quote from: August on February 13, 2018, 08:29:47 PM
Ultramarathon Man: Dean Karnazes
Nice, got it next on tap.
What's up with the middle of the night runs?!?! 3, 4 am!?! Insane!
Quote from: gah on February 15, 2018, 01:01:41 PM
Quote from: August on February 13, 2018, 08:29:47 PM
Ultramarathon Man: Dean Karnazes
Nice, got it next on tap.
What's up with the middle of the night runs?!?! 3, 4 am!?! Insane!
Sweet! Great, engaging, funny read. Definitely piqued my interest in distance running.
Yeah, I've been working on mental strength recently.
3AM long runs before work and endless loops.
The time is just more of a commitment thing.
Alarm goes off and I can either go run long in the rain or stay in a cozy bed for a few more hours.
The loops pass by my house every mile, which gives me the option to quit with every loop, so you're sticking to your commitment while building mental strength.
Plus, your mind starts getting a little weird while running loops, so it's kinda cool.
I might hop into a 50K in 2 weeks which is a 5K Loop ten times, so I'm just laying down a base if I do decide to race it.
Quote from: August on February 15, 2018, 06:08:33 PM
Quote from: gah on February 15, 2018, 01:01:41 PM
Quote from: August on February 13, 2018, 08:29:47 PM
Ultramarathon Man: Dean Karnazes
Nice, got it next on tap.
What's up with the middle of the night runs?!?! 3, 4 am!?! Insane!
Sweet! Great, engaging, funny read. Definitely piqued my interest in distance running.
Yeah, I've been working on mental strength recently.
3AM long runs before work and endless loops.
The time is just more of a commitment thing.
Alarm goes off and I can either go run long in the rain or stay in a cozy bed for a few more hours.
The loops pass by my house every mile, which gives me the option to quit with every loop, so you're sticking to your commitment while building mental strength.
Plus, your mind starts getting a little weird while running loops, so it's kinda cool.
I might hop into a 50K in 2 weeks which is a 5K Loop ten times, so I'm just laying down a base if I do decide to race it.
Beast mode!
That reminds me of a story in Scott Jurek's book, about how he was doing this 24 hour race, basically it's whoever can run the most miles in that time period, and it was loops as well, maybe 1 mile?, maybe 3? I can't remember. But he talked about how he didn't listen to music for the first 8 hours, to try and just see how long he could go before having to go to that as a distraction because of how mind numbing the endless loops become and mentally how challenging it can be. But as the hours passed, he began to see the music as a horizon off in the distance of his mind that he wanted to reach...Anyhow, 50K, and loops is sick. Hope you get a chance to do it.
Yeah!
I think the 24hr Championships in Italy are on a track :-o
During the NJ Marathon in 2015, I started chatting with some dude and he mentioned that he had recently ran the 24hr race. I asked him how many miles he wound up with and he said 148!!!
That race was 2wks before that Matathon and he was pacing the 3:40 group like no big deal!
As for another crazy record, two of my running buddies (Wai Law and Byron Lane) are both in the Guinness Top 10 for the 48 hour treadmill WR. 167 and 160.
They both crushed their PRs last year.
So yesterday I did my last long run, 20 miles, and now I'm supposed to start the three week taper. BUT, here's the thing, I felt like yesterday I did it here at the beach, and it was all flat and along part of the route the actual marathon is going to be on. I thought it might be easier than the 21 I did two weeks ago which was in Maryland through the hills, but it wasn't. Maybe it was the sun and it being the first warm day (80 degrees) that I'd run in. A lot happened mentally in those last few miles, where I just started on this downward mental spiral. At mile 18, I just crashed hard and felt like I'd slowed to a shuffle, barely moving much faster than the people out walking their dogs :cry: But then afterwards, I realized I actually ran 1:10min/mile faster in this 20 than the 21 one from 2 weeks ago?! So weird. Did I go out too fast? Was it the warm weather? Was it that I was having to wear a waist pouch thing to carry my gu and gels, instead of the running jacket that I've been wearing? I don't know, but I just wish I had ended a little stronger and with more confidence going into this last three weeks.
Afterwards, in the afternoon I took a nap, but my mind couldn't stop racing with all these worries, like did I not hydrate enough? How much nutrition do I really need during the race? Is it possible to do that too much? Should I start slower? Walk more? The chaffing was a real issue too, even though I used body glide, but again, this was the first time just going out in running shorts and not running tights that I've spent the last 3 months training...do I need to reapply half way into the race? Should I try vaseline? I dunno, I just feel like I had a lot more confidence the first time I hit 20, compared to yesterday and it's got me a little anxious. Trying to just trust that I've done the miles and stick with the training plan I've been doing for the next three weeks, but a part of me wants to push it a little harder for another week or two, just to feel stronger and more confident going into it, but everything I read says that's counterintuitive to what you should be doing, especially for your first time attempting a marathon.
Anyhow, just needed to get some of this anxiety out and hear what you all think.
don't overthink
starting out too fast is a common problem
I think the combination of heat and running 1:10/m faster had a lot to do with it. That's a pretty significant pace difference. Either one of those alone (running faster or hotter weather) could make you feel shitty at the end of a long run.
follow the plan. goal #1 at this point is don't get hurt in training. Taper, relax
Yeah, I need to up my mental game here the next couple weeks, meditate, get on a more regular sleep schedule, starting focusing on eating a little better, etc...physically, just stick to doing the miles on the plan, and trust that it'll be ok. I don't know where this anxiety came from though, cause up until now, I've been enjoying the process, for the most part. Although, I'd be lying if I didn't say there's a part of me that is looking forward to it being over. Training for a marathon is a marathon in itself.
yes it is
if you haven't been anxious until now, that's pretty good.
Chillllllll.
You're in the homestretch and we all start to obsess over race day in the weeks leading up to it, especially if it's your first marathon.
Heat sucks. Carry a bottle for your race. Take a swig at each mile mark. This will keep you hydrated and break up the race a bit. When you need to refill, take the 20sec or so and fill up.
You're gonna finish the marathon.
Toe the line knowing that you absolutely will finish.
Thanks for the vote of confidence guys. Yeah, I had a solid run this morning that helped me bounce back from the mental beat down that long run gave me the other day. At this point, my goal is simply to finish, and I know I can do that, at least that's what I keep telling myself :hereitisyousentimentalbastard . I just want to enjoy the experience, and regardless of how painful that last 10K might be...this is going to be great. :crazy:
With each "bad" run, just know that your body is prepping you for that next level.
Again, you're gonna finish the marathon.
Clear the mind of can't, won't and what if.
Run 20 as solid as you can.
In the past, I have taken each of the final miles and dedicated each to someone important in my life.
Mile 21 for Aunt Cheryl, Mile 22 for your cat. Then you get as selfish as you want and dedicate that last mile to yourself. Think of all of your sacrifices. How far you've come. The early wake ups. Running in the rain when you could be sleeping. All that stuff. Feel alive. You'll have the following few days to harp on the pain ;)
Quote from: August on February 28, 2018, 04:03:00 AM
With each "bad" run, just know that your body is prepping you for that next level.
Again, you're gonna finish the marathon.
Clear the mind of can't, won't and what if.
Run 20 as solid as you can.
In the past, I have taken each of the final miles and dedicated each to someone important in my life.
Mile 21 for Aunt Cheryl, Mile 22 for your cat. Then you get as selfish as you want and dedicate that last mile to yourself. Think of all of your sacrifices. How far you've come. The early wake ups. Running in the rain when you could be sleeping. All that stuff. Feel alive. You'll have the following few days to harp on the pain ;)
Ok, so I went ahead and got a cat to dedicate mile 22 to. Now what??!?!! :crazy:
JK, so yeah, definitely like the idea of dedicating a mile at the end to various people in my life that helped make this happen. Def a solid strategy. Also, got my gf meeting me at mile 15 to hook me up with my phone and headphones...I wanna run the first part just enjoying the experience, but I feel like having some music for those last miles will be helpful.
Another thing that I found, just a couple weeks ago actually, was I went out running one night after work, and wasn't feeling it but wanted to just eek out 3-4 miles, but the weather was so nice, and I knew it was going to be cold and raining the next few days, and so I just started enjoying the running, and really just tried to focus on being in the moment, and just enjoying the nice weather. And ended up doing 14 miles, and feeling good about them. I think maybe Dean Karnazes said something about that in his book? I can't remember, but just focusing on being present in the moment, and the time and miles will kind of pass on their own.
So that's what I got mentally. Physically, nothing left to do prep wise. Been upping the carbs the last couple days, and def drinking more water (and peeing like every hour because of it!). Gonna be a cold one with a temp at start time about 35 degrees, and only reaching a high of 47 that day. But I'm much happier running in the 40's then in 70 degree weather, so it's cool. Got my clothes all figured out, and what I'm going to eat that morning. Got my bib number. Got my gels that I'm gonna carry. Oh, and my sister and her bf are running the half so I'm gonna do the first two miles with them (it's the same course and start time), and since they're walking more, it'll force me to start slow. I think that's it? And, maybe most importantly, I've thrown all expectations out the window. Just going to go out there and enjoy it. What am I missing?
sounds good
when is it?
youre right, cool is much better than warm
Quote from: slslbs on March 15, 2018, 04:09:03 PM
sounds good
when is it?
youre right, cool is much better than warm
This Sunday. Stoked! And aphineday's got a 10K Saturday. And aug, you have that 50k coming up? Did you decide to do it?
good luck!!!
I'm sure you'll have a great time
Quote from: slslbs on March 15, 2018, 04:27:33 PM
good luck!!!
I'm sure you'll have a great time
Thanks man! :crazy:
Dude!
The hay is in the barn! You are ready!
Sleep well tonight and tmrw. You'll prolly be all jazz'd up Sat night to sleep through the night, but you never know!
Sounds like you're ready to rock this thing!!!
Best of luck and HAVE FUN!
You paid to do this!
Quote from: August on March 15, 2018, 04:40:44 PM
Dude!
The hay is in the barn! You are ready!
Sleep well tonight and tmrw. You'll prolly be all jazz'd up Sat night to sleep through the night, but you never know!
Sounds like you're ready to rock this thing!!!
Best of luck and HAVE FUN!
You paid to do this!
In so many ways! :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Thanks man. Yeah, solid call on trying to get enough sleep these next couple nights, cause I know Sat night I won't get much.
And 35° at the start is primo. That's like ideal temps you got!
Might wanna bring a schwaggy sweatshirt, hats and gloves to keep you warm before the start that you can toss either as you start or a mile or so in. Most big city races collect the clothing and donate them to local shelters.
Quote from: August on March 15, 2018, 04:59:39 PM
And 35° at the start is primo. That's like ideal temps you got!
Might wanna bring a schwaggy sweatshirt, hats and gloves to keep you warm before the start that you can toss either as you start or a mile or so in. Most big city races collect the clothing and donate them to local shelters.
Yeah, they're gonna do the bag check trucks lined up near the start...ever done that? Seems easy enough, except everyone might try and do that at the very last second and so maybe they'll be lines? I dunno, maybe I'll just toss them. Yeah, cause I'll be out there for an hour and a half or two before the start, gonna need some extra layers while waiting...ok, yeah, need to figure that out too.
Anyone run any Marathons this weekend?
Quote from: August on March 19, 2018, 01:44:19 PM
Anyone run any Marathons this weekend?
HA! So yeah, so much respect for this mileage. Humbled by it. Started out fresh, feeling good, but tried to stay purposefully slow, and was doing the run/walk thing with my sister and her boyfriend (who were doing the half), about 30 mins in, started doing my own thing. I had to pee like 3 times before the race, and once again around 3 miles, so like a moron, I thought I must be pretty well hydrated and skipped the first 3-4 water/gatorade breaks...bad move! Half way through, and I'm still feeling good tho, met up with my folks and girlfriend, stopped to get something out of my shoes that had been bugging me for a mile, grabbed a couple gels, and my phone and headphones, and off I went...now second half, I've turned onto the boadwalk, the sun is shining, the beach is to my left, and and I'm blasting some 97/98 phish funk, and feeling really good...checking my times, I'm thinking, I might actually be able to make that 5 hour mark I had wanted, but not sweating it, just surprised I'm still feeling that...mile 17 or 18, I'm in this out and back area, and I see the 5 hour pacers going back the other way, and realize I'm only a few minutes behind them, and I tell them, I'm gonna catch up with you guys here shortly, and they yell back, good luck, and nice, we'll see you shortly then...
And then...I look over and there's some chick puking on the side of the road, and I'm like, whoa, that sucks...a few mins later, all of a sudden I feel my right hamstring start cramping, and I'm like, that's ok, let me just slow it down a bit...but next thing you know, 5 mins later it's my left calf, then 10 mins later my left hamstring, then 10 mins later the muscles on the inside of my thighs, first my left, then my right...and every time I'm having to stop and stretch and massage out the muscle going out on me, and I slowly, watch that 5 hour mark fade, so every water break I come to now I'm downing 2-3 gatorades and a water, but it's too late to catch up to whats happening in my legs now....So then it just got to be about doing my best, and digging deep, and saying pain is temporary, and just pushing it on cramping legs....mile 25 was my favorite, because that's when I turned back to the beach and there was crowds and people still out there encouraging runners on, and I saw my folks again, and then my sister jumped back in and started running with me, and then her boyfriend, and then my girlfriend, and about a half mile of that I thanked them, and they dropped off and went around the boardwalk to the finish, and I did another .5 turned onto the boardwalk, and saw the finish line .2 miles away and just pushed it.
So, my watch, the official time, and strava all varied by a bit, but I finished in 5:18, and a 12:01 pace, and I'm totally happy about it. My hamstrings and whatever those inner thigh muscles are called are pretty sore today, those were the two muscle groups that were cramping the worst. But I figure it'll take a few days to get back to normal.
Final thoughts: A marathon is not a race at all. It's a fucking journey. So much can happen, physically and mentally, in that time, so much can go wrong, and so quickly too. You really need a solid strategy and have a sharp mental focus and stay IN IT the whole time....so different than running a 5K, 10K, or half...but I feel like I learned a lot, and even when it was falling apart at the end, I was thinking, ok, what lessons can I take from this experience for next time (hydrate often and early, don't listen to phish - too distracting causing me to disassociate from the experience, stay mentally focused, check in with yourself physically periodically, watch your pacing, and figure out how to practice even pacing, etc...)...I read somewhere the last 6 miles is the real 2nd half of the race, and it totally makes sense now. That first 20 is just like what you do to get to the start of a 10K, and that's where it all actually takes place.
Anyhow, thanks to everyone for the support and encouragement on here. Super appreciative, and all of it came into play.
Epic!
You did it and now you're a Marathoner!
You're right about taking a physical inventory.
I generally do that at 13 and any time negative thoughts start creeping in.
Just a "What actually hurts now that will alter this race?" and most of the time the answer is NOTHING.
26.2M is a long distance. There's a lot to learn btwn the start and finish in so many ways.
Congrats again!
You'll easily be sub-5 this Fall ;)
Nice work GAH. :clap:
Congrats dude!
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on March 19, 2018, 02:58:57 PM
Nice work GAH. :clap:
Quote from: mbw on March 19, 2018, 03:49:52 PM
Congrats dude!
Thanks guys! :rawk:
Quote from: August on March 19, 2018, 02:53:50 PM
Epic!
You did it and now you're a Marathoner!
You're right about taking a physical inventory.
I generally do that at 13 and any time negative thoughts start creeping in.
Just a "What actually hurts now that will alter this race?" and most of the time the answer is NOTHING.
26.2M is a long distance. There's a lot to learn btwn the start and finish in so many ways.
Congrats again!
You'll easily be sub-5 this Fall ;)
Thanks man, yeah, def taking a hard look at Richmond in November. They might've sold me on the website today with the pickle juice stop at mile 23, which is apparently supposed to help with muscle cramping, ha!
As for the checking in mentally, so one of the things that got me was, in all my training runs, I hadn't cramped up once....and all of a sudden I could tell that was about to happen, and I didn't know what to do, but slow down. That's what got me. Like when my inner thigh muscles cramped, I didn't even really know what stretches to do to handle it. So stretching more is going to be essential moving forward, but also figuring out what to do with each muscle group depending on what's starting to happen. Ideally, like you said, most of the time I won't experience anything, and it'll be cool, but all my strategies and ideas on how I was going to handle that last 6 miles went out the window, and I shifted to like "just finish any way you can" mode.
Sometimes "it takes all you got just to stay on the beat." (side note: I also listened to the barton hall scarlet > fire after the phish mix, both for the lyrics to fire on the mountain, and the fact that it's my birthday song, debuted on 3/18/77...helluva way to celebrate a birthday, running a marathon :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard )
Happy Birthday!!
Sounds like a freakin' party to me!!!
Stretching/rolling to aid recovery will take you to the next level.
Bad news tho, if you're in pain today...tomorrow will be worse!! 😬
Then you're on your way!
As for inner thigh/hip flexor stiffness, just sitting and forming a diamond shape with your feet in front of you will help open you up. You can try and pull your feet in gradually as an advanced stretch, but just sitting like that for 10min intervals will get you loose. In a few days, you'll feel good again but this is a good sign that your body lacks attention in that muscle group, so I would suggest trying to target that area a few times during the week during your next training cycle. Stretching blows, but it's crucial.
You've seen my training and I'm big on "active" recovery.
Just trying to get out there quickly after a race or LR.
That's something you'll get to and is actually rather benificial in healing, believe it or not.
You're doing great. Don't lose your base.
You're at a mint place right now.
Eye a half, 10K or any race during the Spring to keep you plugging away.
This is just the beginning, man!
Congrats, you did it
:rawk:
I've cramped up twice during marathons, never during training. Once it was super hot out and I picked up my pace too fast way to early, the other was just a bad day.
yes, it's a journey, and so much shit can happen.
Relax, enjoy, walk, stretch
your'e a marathoner
:clap:
Proud of you, kid! Can't wait to see you chow down a well-earned Cochon de Lait!
thanks sls! Good to know that the cramping during the race and not during training has happened to more advanced runners like yourself. :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Quote from: PIE-GUY on March 19, 2018, 06:51:09 PM
Proud of you, kid! Can't wait to see you chow down a well-earned Cochon de Lait!
damn straight! some po boys are def called for. Also, stay safe down there in Austin, it's some crazy shit happening these days.
thanks Aug for the stretch, and recovery advice. It's kind of tough, reading all these different articles on how to handle this week, and sometimes there's conflicting/opposing advice...like the active recovery (go out for a jog as early as 48 hours after) vs. rest (for up to 26 days - a mile per day?!?!)...but I'm just gonna listen to my body...obviously, my goal is to get out for some light runs as soon as I feel up for it. Anyhow, you'll see me up on strava soon....
Congrats GAH and everyone else. I've been out of this thread since January and have been struggling with my fitness as well (even though I am not a runner). Stoked to see all the great stuff going on in here. The last year has been really up and down for me motivation-wise and I have had the usual kids/work/personal junk that I have been blaming for "lack of time" but I feel like I have turned a corner and I am stoked on it. This winter has been especially rough for me because last year I got this weird affliction (syndrome lol) called Renaud's Syndrome and basically if I am outside for any length of tiem when it is under 50 degrees, I lose all the circulation in my toes and fingers (mostly my fingers) and all the blood leaves them and they turn bright white and look dead and it freaking hurts. Don't google it unless you want to ralph. So even though I have the proper gear, I've been kind of blaming my lack of motivation on that and it is such a Catch-22 because once you lose fitness it becomes even harder to motivate yourself. Anyway, I've sort of turned a mental corner and the weather here is warming up and I am back in the garage on the trainer so pumped to have a great spring/summer and happy to have you guys for motivation. Made some changes to my schedule so I can join my team rides again and finally get back to being fit. Stopped drinking too in an effort to speed up some weight loss. I need to lose 10, goal would be 15lbs.
As far as nutrition, I know biking is a little different but my team is sponsored by Nuun for hydration stuff which I really recommend. It's the best: https://nuunlife.com Last year we were sponsored by Honey Stinger and their gels are organic so I switched from Gu to Honey Stinger but taste-wise and performance wise they're really similar. Since Honey Stinger pulled their sponsorship this year, I might go back to Gu but I like the organic factor. In an endurance event (4+ hours), you really need to switch it up though so the Clif Blocks are nice or anything you can chew. It's different on a bike though because I have pockets so it's not like a runner is going to bring a cliff bar or solid food. The Honey Stinger waffles are dope though.
FWIW, bike gear is different than running clothes and has different considerations, but all of my bike stuff goes in the wash separately in Hand Wash mode and then I drip dry. Nothing kills bike kit more quickly than the dryer.
I'm 900 miles behind my goal of 4500 miles this year so it's gonna be a tough one to hit but I'm gonna try. I think I have only ridden 11 times this year, but should be back to 4 times a week now that I've got my head on straight.
I've haven't been getting many miles in this winter, but my daughter joined a running club through her elementary school and I join her on her after school workouts when I see her Tuesdays (today, eg.).
My heart rate doesn't get up where I like, jogging at a 4-foot, 10 year-old's pace, but goddamn is it satisfying to be out in the early spring air with her.
Now I'm smiling just anticipating this afternoon.
Also, I'm hoping for a renewal of the Runaway Jim 5k at Curveball. That was some fun shit.
Quote from: Caravan2001 on April 03, 2018, 12:17:09 AM
This winter has been especially rough for me because last year I got this weird affliction (syndrome lol) called Renaud's Syndrome and basically if I am outside for any length of tiem when it is under 50 degrees, I lose all the circulation in my toes and fingers (mostly my fingers) and all the blood leaves them and they turn bright white and look dead and it freaking hurts. Don't google it unless you want to ralph.
This really sucks,so no trips to the mountains either?
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 03, 2018, 07:37:16 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on April 03, 2018, 12:17:09 AM
This winter has been especially rough for me because last year I got this weird affliction (syndrome lol) called Renaud's Syndrome and basically if I am outside for any length of tiem when it is under 50 degrees, I lose all the circulation in my toes and fingers (mostly my fingers) and all the blood leaves them and they turn bright white and look dead and it freaking hurts. Don't google it unless you want to ralph.
This really sucks,so no trips to the mountains either?
Really limited. I had to buy these giant down Burton AK mitts that are rated for like 0-10F and I have to wear them when it's like 30F out. If it is 25 or below I can't really go. Luckily with the mountain I can always head into the lodge every hour. When I get stuck out on the bike and I am still an hour plus away from home is when it super sucks.
Quote from: sunrisevt on April 03, 2018, 12:06:12 PM
I've haven't been getting many miles in this winter, but my daughter joined a running club through her elementary school and I join her on her after school workouts when I see her Tuesdays (today, eg.).
My heart rate doesn't get up where I like, jogging at a 4-foot, 10 year-old's pace, but goddamn is it satisfying to be out in the early spring air with her.
Now I'm smiling just anticipating this afternoon.
Also, I'm hoping for a renewal of the Runaway Jim 5k at Curveball. That was some fun shit.
Most excellent! That's a great common ground and motivator for both of you!
Glad you're back, Caravan.
Hopefully you'll get a ton of time in now and you'll have no choice but to hit the trainer when next Winter rolls around. I start each week with a weekly mileage goal. If I know my long run is 20 and I need 50 for the week, I gotta get those 30 in somehow during the week. It blows some mornings (most), but it's very motivating to hit your weekly goals. Sign up for a race. So easy that way.
Quote from: August on April 04, 2018, 06:31:52 PM
Quote from: sunrisevt on April 03, 2018, 12:06:12 PM
I've haven't been getting many miles in this winter, but my daughter joined a running club through her elementary school and I join her on her after school workouts when I see her Tuesdays (today, eg.).
My heart rate doesn't get up where I like, jogging at a 4-foot, 10 year-old's pace, but goddamn is it satisfying to be out in the early spring air with her.
Now I'm smiling just anticipating this afternoon.
Also, I'm hoping for a renewal of the Runaway Jim 5k at Curveball. That was some fun shit.
Most excellent! That's a great common ground and motivator for both of you!
Glad you're back, Caravan.
Hopefully you'll get a ton of time in now and you'll have no choice but to hit the trainer when next Winter rolls around. I start each week with a weekly mileage goal. If I know my long run is 20 and I need 50 for the week, I gotta get those 30 in somehow during the week. It blows some mornings (most), but it's very motivating to hit your weekly goals. Sign up for a race. So easy that way.
Yeah agreed. I do have a 100 mile/week goal, but have not been keeping up (which is why I am 950 miles behind on it.) But it's great to have that looming over your head. I also had signed up for 3 races in April and May that I had to bowl out of due to family commitment so that derailed my training too as I knew I would have to miss them. All that said, I renewed my racing license last week and have my eye on a local Monday night series that just started, but I will probably join in May as I need to quickly get some fitness back. Racing is a great way to train though!
Nice! You'll get it back super fast.
One mile at a time!
Sunrise, very cool to just be getting out there and enjoying the spring air. Dig it. that kind of running is the best.
C2K1, sorry to hear about the Raynauds. My college gf had that, and she'd bring gloves with her when we went to the grocery store, even in the summer, just for when we walked through the frozen section, or with her to the movies even, cause theaters are always cold, anyhow...that sucks though that it's effecting your ability to ride in certain weather. Also my sister bf is a cyclist and dropped some of the Nuun tablets on me a few weekends ago, I haven't had a chance to try them out yet though, but good to know they come highly rec'd. I've seen the honey stinger waffles, they had them at the marathon a few weeks ago, but I didn't wanna try anything new...I might grab some at REI next time I'm in there though.
Aug, when's this 70K you're doing? Is it a trail run? Is it your first Ultra?
70K is this Sunday!
All trail and they're calling for more snow Saturday night on top of an already sloppy trail 😬😬
I've ran a few Ultras before, but this will be my first time racing one since '15.
Just looking to go Top 10 is all ;)
Quote from: August on April 05, 2018, 02:39:24 PM
70K is this Sunday!
All trail and they're calling for more snow Saturday night on top of an already sloppy trail 😬😬
I've ran a few Ultras before, but this will be my first time racing one since '15.
Just looking to go Top 10 is all ;)
Damn, son!
:crazy:
Well, the one plus is that it's only 4,000ft or so of climbing ;)
Quote from: August on April 05, 2018, 02:39:24 PM
70K is this Sunday!
All trail and they're calling for more snow Saturday night on top of an already sloppy trail 😬😬
I've ran a few Ultras before, but this will be my first time racing one since '15.
Just looking to go Top 10 is all ;)
Good luck homie- you got this! Hope the weather isn't too much of a factor. Do you wear goretex sneakers or socks for something like that? I swear by my Brooks GTX when its raining around here...I mean, just for walking around that is lol.
I never found a trail shoe that I loved.
I'll just be going with some sturdy racing shoes with wool socks.
Ill have a drop bag at the 3rd aid station (29M) with fresh socks and shoes.
My feet will be hamburger meat either way, but I use Aquaphor and baby powder beforehand, which has helped in soggy marathons before.
It's all good. Ready to do this!
Dude, I just checked the race out. So it's a solo or relay race...you're obviously doing it solo, but you can break the top 10 for sure! No doubt. Stoked for you! I've seen you taper here this week, so you've got to be itching to just get out there and do this!
Speaking of socks, ever use Injinji's? They're the toe socks, I use them as sock liners for hiking, but then saw they make them as running socks too, and picked up a pair, and have been digging them for long runs. Probably gonna pick up a few more sets.
Quote from: August on April 05, 2018, 04:53:57 PM
I never found a trail shoe that I loved.
I'll just be going with some sturdy racing shoes with wool socks.
Ill have a drop bag at the 3rd aid station (29M) with fresh socks and shoes.
My feet will be hamburger meat either way, but I use Aquaphor and baby powder beforehand, which has helped in soggy marathons before.
It's all good. Ready to do this!
Word. Get some! Link to the course/race site?
Quote from: August on April 05, 2018, 04:53:57 PM
I never found a trail shoe that I loved.
I'll just be going with some sturdy racing shoes with wool socks.
Ill have a drop bag at the 3rd aid station (29M) with fresh socks and shoes.
My feet will be hamburger meat either way, but I use Aquaphor and baby powder beforehand, which has helped in soggy marathons before.
It's all good. Ready to do this!
That is insane, good on ya and good luck.
Weather is actually looking good!
Since it's point 2 point, some areas still have snow/slush and some are clear.
http://jayasports.com/pp70k-2/
The RD has been posting some pix on their FB page as he marks the course.
As for Injinji socks, I have a few pair.
They're great for long distance, especially if your feet sweat a lot.
Basically elimates any friction btwn toes do you'll really cut down on blisters.
good luck!!!!
y'all are crazy! :crazy:
Rocked the 70K yesterday!
Was hoping for Top 10 but was 12th overall.
Went off course at a crucial point and had to backtrack to a timing mat and my drop bag.
That cost me a few spots, but it's all good.
Really enjoyable run and great weather!
Onward!
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You're insane. That is all.
awesome :clap:
I am humbled in the presence of greatness
:-D
Thanks. It was a really fun day/training cycle.
So sick! And inspiring!
Quote from: slslbs on April 09, 2018, 09:34:01 AM
awesome :clap:
I am humbled in the presence of greatness
Next up: 100K?!?! :crazy:
5K!! :lol:
Amazing stuff Aug.
How much music do you cue up for a run of that magnitude?
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on April 09, 2018, 11:41:40 AM
Amazing stuff Aug.
How much music do you cue up for a run of that magnitude?
Zero!
Insanity, nice work!
Thanks! I actually had a two hour playlist for a particularly hard stretch made, but I didn't need/want it.
:-o
Good galloping Christ, that's a long run.
Quote from: sunrisevt on April 09, 2018, 03:20:07 PM
:-o
Good galloping Christ, that's a long run.
Honestly, it was the "easiest" LR that I've ever run.
No real bonk, no wall, just chipping away at each leg.
Going off course destroyed me.
We were ahead of goal pace at that point and I became deflated. Rebounding from that mistake and tacking on the extra mile was the ultimate test.
I'm going back next year and will run even stronger and am going Top 3.
44 miles!? :-o
nice work! congrats! :clap:
Quote from: August on April 09, 2018, 03:34:07 PM
Quote from: sunrisevt on April 09, 2018, 03:20:07 PM
:-o
Good galloping Christ, that's a long run.
Honestly, it was the "easiest" LR that I've ever run.
No real bonk, no wall, just chipping away at each leg.
Going off course destroyed me.
We were ahead of goal pace at that point and I became deflated. Rebounding from that mistake and tacking on the extra mile was the ultimate test.
I'm going back next year and will run even stronger and am going Top 3.
Did you and your friend end up running it together, or did you split up at some point? did he go off course too? I'm just blown away that you were still pulling sub 10's 40 miles in!!! Seems to me you ran the whole thing strong.
Thanks!
Yeah, we ran the whole thing together.
Trained together and raced together.
He has the speed and I have the (Ultra) experience, so it was a great combo.
Quote from: August on April 09, 2018, 05:06:47 PM
Thanks!
Yeah, we ran the whole thing together.
Trained together and raced together.
He has the speed and I have the (Ultra) experience, so it was a great combo.
Yeah, I recognized him as the dude you did the 30 miler with a few weeks ago. Solid work man, seriously inspiring!
Thanks, guys!
Happy with my result!
:beers:
Nice work pal. Keep it up!
So here's something someone got me a three month subscription of starting last month. Basically, every month you get a variety box 5-6 food items, gels, powders, etc a recipe card, a discount card of the items in the box if you wanna order more from the specific company, and one extra item, like last month I got a stretch band, which has come in helpful the last few weeks for my hamstrings, and yesterdays box came with a wrist slip pouch wallet...which is super comfy and will fit my house key a few bucks for stopping for a drink on a long run or whatever. I don't know yet if I'll continue the subscription after my third gift box, but just thought I'd share if any of you guys were interested in looking into it as well. It's been dope cause its let me sample things like hammer gels, picky oats (oatmeal), energy gummi bears, e-fuel, bolt energy chews, gu, skout pumpkin seeds, maurten drink mix 160, etc....
https://stridebox.com/
Nice! Looks cool!
Always great to try new fuels before dropping bucks on them.
Just got the invite to be the official pacer for the 4:00 group at the Suffolk County Marathon in October!
So incredibly stoked!
Helping others break 4 for their first time is going to be an amazing experience!
Quote from: August on April 11, 2018, 07:35:15 PM
Just got the invite to be the official pacer for the 4:00 group at the Suffolk County Marathon in October!
So incredibly stoked!
Helping others break 4 for their first time is going to be an amazing experience!
Sweet!
Quote from: Caravan2001 on April 11, 2018, 07:45:34 PM
Quote from: August on April 11, 2018, 07:35:15 PM
Just got the invite to be the official pacer for the 4:00 group at the Suffolk County Marathon in October!
So incredibly stoked!
Helping others break 4 for their first time is going to be an amazing experience!
Sweet!
Nice! So much respect for the pacers :clap:
Quote from: gah on April 12, 2018, 10:06:11 AM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on April 11, 2018, 07:45:34 PM
Quote from: August on April 11, 2018, 07:35:15 PM
Just got the invite to be the official pacer for the 4:00 group at the Suffolk County Marathon in October!
So incredibly stoked!
Helping others break 4 for their first time is going to be an amazing experience!
Sweet!
Nice! So much respect for the pacers :clap:
cool!!
https://nysmusic.com/2018/04/18/watkins-glen-ceos-spin-on-phishs-curveball/ (https://nysmusic.com/2018/04/18/watkins-glen-ceos-spin-on-phishs-curveball/)
"For starters, he did confirm that the fan favorite event — in the past titled the Runaway Jim 5K road race — will happen again this year."
Ran a 5K today (with a 180ft climb in mile 1 :-o) in 19:18/6:08p. Fun times.
Next up is the Long Island Marathon in 2 weeks and then I'll focus on some speed throughout the Summer.
great time!
good luck
Quote from: August on April 22, 2018, 06:51:30 PM
Ran a 5K today (with a 180ft climb in mile 1 :-o) in 19:18/6:08p. Fun times.
Next up is the Long Island Marathon in 2 weeks and then I'll focus on some speed throughout the Summer.
:beerbang:
Quote from: August on April 22, 2018, 06:51:30 PM
Ran a 5K today (with a 180ft climb in mile 1 :-o) in 19:18/6:08p. Fun times.
Next up is the Long Island Marathon in 2 weeks and then I'll focus on some speed throughout the Summer.
:-o
That's, like... high school race time for a 5k.
:-D
Should have been an easy sub-19 without that darn climb!
I forgot how much I love/hate short distance racing!
Ran a few kms with my daughter today.
Not close to everyone else in this thread but fun to get out.
Bring on the Spring.
Bring on the Spring is right. Brisk, early spring morning run yesterday. It was great.
Marathon relay coming up in a little less than a month. Have some work to do
Quote from: August on April 23, 2018, 05:54:14 PM
:-D
Should have been an easy sub-19 without that darn climb!
I forgot how much I love/hate short distance racing!
Used to be my wheelhouse, especially the downhills--I'd pass tons of guys there & keep the lead. Not as a scoring runner, but still.
Nice!
Yeah, it's easy to spot the runners that train on hills and the track guys.
I'd lose my mind if I could only train flat!
Also, do you know the top times from the OG Run Jim 5K?
Quote from: August on April 25, 2018, 06:12:13 PM
Nice!
Yeah, it's easy to spot the runners that train on hills and the track guys.
I'd lose my mind if I could only train flat!
Also, do you know the top times from the OG Run Jim 5K?
The winners of the Runaway Jim 5k were: 1. Ethan McBrien 15:23 / 1. Katie Harrington 17:19 / 2. David Cook 15.35 / 3. Finn McCool 15:55.
ETA: Finn McCool is the winner, just because of his name...
DAYYUMMMMM!
Quote from: August on April 29, 2018, 04:22:40 AM
DAYYUMMMMM!
I guess the guy that won was like a big deal runner at UVM. But I also read that he was up until 4:30 pounding beers at his campsite the night before. Must have been Coors Light. We all know the Silver Bullet doesn't slow you down :beers:
Ran the Long Island Marathon today in 3:14:38 (7:26)
My first time ever running a negative half, too!
1:37.30/1:37.08
Quote from: August on May 06, 2018, 02:19:55 PM
Ran the Long Island Marathon today in 3:14:38 (7:26)
My first time ever running a negative half, too!
1:37.30/1:37.08
Nice work dude. I was however disappointed to see you in running shorts and not cargo shorts.
Quote from: August on May 06, 2018, 02:19:55 PM
Ran the Long Island Marathon today in 3:14:38 (7:26)
My first time ever running a negative half, too!
1:37.30/1:37.08
Is that your PR for all marathons or just for the LI? Either way, amazing job.
I ended up in a road race this morning. On my bike. It wasn't cool. There were hundred of runners in both directions. Had to ride in it for about a mile until I had an exit lol. Also just found out that the Portland Marathon is cancer this year. Apparently the Director, who I have met in a bar at the airport, took all of the 2018 entrance fees and a bunch of other dough and dipped. He got hot but the race is shelved until they reorganize.
Marathon PR!
That's craziness about the RD.
I've heard of some shadiness with those color and foam run things, but rarely with big city races.
Truly amazing!
You straight beastin' Aug!
Thanks, man!
Been having some fun this year!
great time
that should qualify you for Boston!!
Quote from: slslbs on May 07, 2018, 03:30:01 PM
great time
that should qualify you for Boston!!
Nope!!! :-D
I need a 3:06 right now.
But by the time my Fall race rolls around, I'll need a 3:11 to guarantee a spot.
I got that.
Insane time, and negative split taboot! Congrats man, and I'm sure you got the Boston qualifier this fall fo sho! :clap:
Rocked a hilly 8K yesterday in 31:18/6:18p
Third year straight snagging 1st in my Division, too!
Got a few weeks of some short races and maintaining a solid Marathon base.
Need a little more work before my Fall race in order to qualify for Boston.
Boston 2020 or bust!!!
Quote from: August on June 04, 2018, 06:14:43 PM
Rocked a hilly 8K yesterday in 31:18/6:18p
Third year straight snagging 1st in my Division, too!
Got a few weeks of some short races and maintaining a solid Marathon base.
Need a little more work before my Fall race in order to qualify for Boston.
Boston 2020 or bust!!!
Rock and roll dude!
Aug, you could really actually win the runaway Jim 5K. You comin'?
Quote from: PIE-GUY on June 05, 2018, 12:25:06 AM
Aug, you could really actually win the runaway Jim 5K. You comin'?
I think I'm gonna sit this one out.
Getting the webcast for the 5K, tho!!
nice work!!
which race are you going to use for your qualifier?
Quote from: slslbs on June 05, 2018, 08:54:14 AM
nice work!!
which race are you going to use for your qualifier?
Steamtown Marathon in Scranton.
I need a 3:11 to guarantee a spot (AG is 3:15), but I'll be shooting for sub-3:10.
You could've made us proud Aug... you really could've....
I know you're 3-peating races left and right these days but c'mon! This was OUR chance! Think of us little guys! Isn't 5k like a walk to the mailbox these days?
eta. Wait... shit... you get paid to walk to mailboxes... bad example...
Top 3 times from the OG Run Jim we're all in the 15s
I have a feeling it'll be an even speedier field this year.
Quote from: August on June 05, 2018, 08:04:38 PM
Top 3 times from the OG Run Jim we're all in the 15s
I have a feeling it'll be an even speedier field this year.
If mattstick is sporting the headband, he may have a chance.
He's gonna need some performance enhancers though.
Quote from: August on June 05, 2018, 06:36:56 PM
Quote from: slslbs on June 05, 2018, 08:54:14 AM
nice work!!
which race are you going to use for your qualifier?
Steamtown Marathon in Scranton.
I need a 3:11 to guarantee a spot (AG is 3:15), but I'll be shooting for sub-3:10.
that's pretty quick, good luck!!!
btw do you use the HR data from the Garmin to help you train? I typically go on how I feel. I got it as a gift for the holidays and have using it for tracking, timing, pace setting etc but not that part yet.
I have the Forerunner 220 which doesn't have the HR.
I think it would just be one more number to think about, so I'm ok with not having that feature ;)
A lot of my triathlete friends do a bunch of HR specific workouts.
Just like you, I generally just train on feel.
Lahey Oncology 5K today
21:34. (6:58)
And raised some $ for a good cause
Quote from: slslbs on June 23, 2018, 09:44:41 AM
Lahey Oncology 5K today
21:34. (6:58)
And raised some $ for a good cause
:beers:
Crankin'!
Great work all around!
Pacing the 4 hour group this Sunday at the Suffolk Marathon!
SO STOKED to help others achieve their goals!
Quote from: August on October 22, 2018, 04:32:34 PM
Pacing the 4 hour group this Sunday at the Suffolk Marathon!
SO STOKED to help others achieve their goals!
I think I know what this means but can you explain?
How do you know what the right pace is? Do you try and stay just ahead of that group to push them?
Quote from: August on October 22, 2018, 04:32:34 PM
Pacing the 4 hour group this Sunday at the Suffolk Marathon!
SO STOKED to help others achieve their goals!
Solid! :clap:
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on October 22, 2018, 04:46:18 PM
Quote from: August on October 22, 2018, 04:32:34 PM
Pacing the 4 hour group this Sunday at the Suffolk Marathon!
SO STOKED to help others achieve their goals!
I think I know what this means but can you explain?
How do you know what the right pace is? Do you try and stay just ahead of that group to push them?
Pretty much! A lot of big races and most marathons offer pace groups.
The "Pace Leader" will generally hold a sign with the goal time in it or wear something that identifies them as a pacer. I'll have a sign before the start so those looking to run 4 hours can hang out around me and ask questions or whatever. The goal is really to "break" the goal time by a little bit or to get in just under the goal time. I'll get my group in right around 3:59.30.
Pacers need to have experience pacing or show consistency in their training in order to get the job.
This particular course is petty flat, so I'll just be clicking off 9:08s all day long.
It's fun. I've ran with pacers and paced my friend last year to her first Boston Qualifying time.
The 4 hour group is always the largest, so I am a tad nervous. Not in my ability, but just having 100+ runners rely on me to break 4 or to finish their first marathon!
It's gonna be a great experience all around!
Should be fun
So I did a short race review after pacing 2 weeks ago on FB/IG.
Such an amazing experience! Far better than any PR or personal race accomplishment.
QuoteWell, yesterday's experience pacing the 4 hour group at the Suffolk County Marathon and Freedom Fest was both rewarding and unforgettable. Linked up with new friend Matthew, we had a very committed group that ran nice and relaxed with us. Most were running their very first Marathon and I knew early on that we had A LOT of runners that were definitely hitting their goal. I was wrong, though. At around 17 miles, a few of our women athletes slowly pushed forward. By 19, they were out of our sight. Around this same time, a few of our men from the group made a solid surge. By 23, they were long gone. The group we had at 13.1 ALL ran well below 4 hours and ALL negative split their second half! So many impressive times (3:54, 3:54, 3:56, 3:57 to name a few) and ALL placed in their divisions! So proud of all of their efforts! It was truly a pleasure to take the individuality out of racing for the day and focus solely on others' goals. Thank you for this opportunity, Greater Long Island Running Club.
Official time - 3:59.28
:clap:
Dude, the consistency that you held through all those miles blows me away. Such disciplined running. Big ups on being of service and giving back to what has given you so much, and for helping others achieve their goals. Hope you get more opportunities like it in the future. :rawk:
Thanks, man! I can't wait to pace again, hopefully at an even larger event.
That faster split was when I ran up to use a porta real quick :-D
Yo aug, what's this book you posted you're re-reading? I meant to write it down, but I can't find where you posted that, on strava? IG?
I've been reading this one called Slow Burn, by Stu Mittleman, talking about running slower to burn energy more efficiently and get more efficient with your heart rate, etc...basically all leading to improved running. And someone else rec'd 80/20 by Matt Fitzgerald, but I haven't picked that up or know what it's about yet, but I'm guessing something similar. Every read either of those?
(Sorry you're still sick and not out crushing miles.)
Quote from: gah on January 21, 2019, 02:08:08 PM
Yo aug, what's this book you posted you're re-reading? I meant to write it down, but I can't find where you posted that, on strava? IG?
I've been reading this one called Slow Burn, by Stu Mittleman, talking about running slower to burn energy more efficiently and get more efficient with your heart rate, etc...basically all leading to improved running. And someone else rec'd 80/20 by Matt Fitzgerald, but I haven't picked that up or know what it's about yet, but I'm guessing something similar. Every read either of those?
(Sorry you're still sick and not out crushing miles.)
I reread "How Bad Do You Want It?", also by Matt Fitzgerald.
Although I haven't read his 80/20 book (or Stu's), that's exactly how I train.
80% easy runs and 20% goal oriented.
"Most" of my crew follows the same ratio, although some are just balls out all week.
If you haven't read it already, Ultramarathon Man by Dean Karnazes is a great read.
What's on your calendar???
Quote from: August on January 21, 2019, 02:18:52 PM
Quote from: gah on January 21, 2019, 02:08:08 PM
Yo aug, what's this book you posted you're re-reading? I meant to write it down, but I can't find where you posted that, on strava? IG?
I've been reading this one called Slow Burn, by Stu Mittleman, talking about running slower to burn energy more efficiently and get more efficient with your heart rate, etc...basically all leading to improved running. And someone else rec'd 80/20 by Matt Fitzgerald, but I haven't picked that up or know what it's about yet, but I'm guessing something similar. Every read either of those?
(Sorry you're still sick and not out crushing miles.)
I reread "How Bad Do You Want It?", also by Matt Fitzgerald.
Although I haven't read his 80/20 book (or Stu's), that's exactly how I train.
80% easy runs and 20% goal oriented.
"Most" of my crew follows the same ratio, although some are just balls out all week.
If you haven't read it already, Ultramarathon Man by Dean Karnazes is a great read.
What's on your calendar???
Yeah, I read Dean's Ultramarathon Man already...and that was cool as a memoir and motivation, but I've been wanting to read something more about training, and my brother in law got me that Slow Burn book. I'm only like 40 pages in so I can't really judge it yet, but I know the back is full of work out plans.
I don't have anything really on the calendar, after that full last year, I felt really burned out, and just kinda drifted, but the last 2 months or so I've just been trying to build base miles again. The last 2-3 weeks though, I've been really enjoying getting those longer distance runs in again. Like a lot. And doing the whole "active" recovery miles, as opposed to taking the next day off after a long run.
Your pace is coming down too!
I think if you put a half on your radar, sub-2 is in your reach.
Quote from: August on January 21, 2019, 03:04:23 PM
Your pace is coming down too!
I think if you put a half on your radar, sub-2 is in your reach.
Man, I literally just checked that this morning, and made a chart of paces I'd need to break 2:10 (9:54/m), 2:05 (9:32/m), and sub-2 (9:09).
Yesterday I did a half in 2:16:37 (10:26/m), and my PR from Fall 2017 was 2:14:27 (10:16/m)...so I was only 10 sec off pace...I could beat that. And I checked the calendar and there's a half in 8 weeks, I was thinking, can I shave off 32 sec/mile in that much time to break the 2:10? And maybe progress thru the year to break 2hrs in 2019? That'd be amazing.
I have a feeling being 21 weeks nicotine free has something to do with this. :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Hell yeah it does!
If you really don't want to run a Marathon this year, sign up for the half in 8wks with a goal of a PR.
You can easily run close to 205 then, but just saying you want a PR takes a little pressure off.
A Fall half will be cake to get under 2.
Quote from: gah on January 21, 2019, 03:31:46 PM
Quote from: August on January 21, 2019, 03:04:23 PM
Your pace is coming down too!
I think if you put a half on your radar, sub-2 is in your reach.
Man, I literally just checked that this morning, and made a chart of paces I'd need to break 2:10 (9:54/m), 2:05 (9:32/m), and sub-2 (9:09).
Yesterday I did a half in 2:16:37 (10:26/m), and my PR from Fall 2017 was 2:14:27 (10:16/m)...so I was only 10 sec off pace...I could beat that. And I checked the calendar and there's a half in 8 weeks, I was thinking, can I shave off 32 sec/mile in that much time to break the 2:10? And maybe progress thru the year to break 2hrs in 2019? That'd be amazing.
I have a feeling being 21 weeks nicotine free has something to do with this. :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Hopefully your rolled ankle is feeling better. I have a bunch of events coming up in April and May (biking). Biggest is 117 miles with 6500' climbing. I think I can cram in some fitness but I've got 2 weeks in Costa Rica on 2/14 and then a week in LA on business middle of March which is really throwing my training plan for a loop. I feel like I'll start building up fitness and then have to take a break at really bad times. It might actually be good to have some forced rest times but two weeks off the bike is a big jam up. Did a threshold test yesterday though and it came out decent so I'm not in terrible shape considering I've only ridden 100 miles this year. Got a new bike being built up now so that will be great motivation for me to get out on the road up to my events. Pumped for this year. Last year was not a good one as I came in 1500 miles short of my 4000 mile goal. Couple of crashes really sunk me for the last 3 months of the year. Hoping for 4500 this year but I am already a fair bit behind pace. But I'm feeling good about this year so....
Quote from: Caravan2001 on January 24, 2019, 10:19:58 PM
Quote from: gah on January 21, 2019, 03:31:46 PM
Quote from: August on January 21, 2019, 03:04:23 PM
Your pace is coming down too!
I think if you put a half on your radar, sub-2 is in your reach.
Man, I literally just checked that this morning, and made a chart of paces I'd need to break 2:10 (9:54/m), 2:05 (9:32/m), and sub-2 (9:09).
Yesterday I did a half in 2:16:37 (10:26/m), and my PR from Fall 2017 was 2:14:27 (10:16/m)...so I was only 10 sec off pace...I could beat that. And I checked the calendar and there's a half in 8 weeks, I was thinking, can I shave off 32 sec/mile in that much time to break the 2:10? And maybe progress thru the year to break 2hrs in 2019? That'd be amazing.
I have a feeling being 21 weeks nicotine free has something to do with this. :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Hopefully your rolled ankle is feeling better. I have a bunch of events coming up in April and May (biking). Biggest is 117 miles with 6500' climbing. I think I can cram in some fitness but I've got 2 weeks in Costa Rica on 2/14 and then a week in LA on business middle of March which is really throwing my training plan for a loop. I feel like I'll start building up fitness and then have to take a break at really bad times. It might actually be good to have some forced rest times but two weeks off the bike is a big jam up. Did a threshold test yesterday though and it came out decent so I'm not in terrible shape considering I've only ridden 100 miles this year. Got a new bike being built up now so that will be great motivation for me to get out on the road up to my events. Pumped for this year. Last year was not a good one as I came in 1500 miles short of my 4000 mile goal. Couple of crashes really sunk me for the last 3 months of the year. Hoping for 4500 this year but I am already a fair bit behind pace. But I'm feeling good about this year so....
Yeah dude, that was some nonsense. I was 3 miles into a run when it happened. Immediate thought was, well, I'm 3 miles from the car even if I turn back right now, so I might as well finish this loop, but then once I started I couldn't feel the pain (from endorphins I guess), so I just kept going and did 8 more miles! Not smart. Spent the rest of the day with it iced, elevated, ibuprofen, and a compression sleeve. Tried a mile the next day on a treadmill, realized this was going to require a couple days off. It's still not 100% but def good enough to keep running. Plus, I've just come to accept that pain is a part of running.
A two week trip to Costa Rica sounds awesome! But yeah, it'll def throw your training for a loop. But you can stay active swimming and running there, even if you can't ride? I'm aiming to do a 1/2 in 7 weeks, but I've got a 5 day backpacking/hiking trip through the Guadalupe Mtns NP in the middle of that too. We'll be covering quite a few miles and climbs hiking so I'm not sweating a lost run or two that week. I feel like a forced break like that could be good for you tho, maybe bring you back stoked to ride again.
4500 is a helluva goal, way to put it out there and hold yourself accountable! I only did 500 last year, didn't really have a goal, that's just what happened, but I'm shooting for 1000 this year. Just need to approach it with focus and consistency.
Paced the 3:30 group last Sunday at the LI Marathon.
A little gutsy as I missed 5wks recently for a knee issue.
Also, 14 miles was my longest run since January but I figured I was good to run 8:00 all day.
It poured like a mutha all day. Had a small group at the start going for 3:30, but most dropped off early. Had two guys at 16M and one at 18M. Dude's previous PR was 3:47, so he was going big!
Long story short, he nailed it! I cut him loose at 25M and he went on to run 3:28.40. Huge PR and negative split!
I came in at 3:29.30, also with a negative half.
Very rewarding getting that dude to his goal.
Quote from: G. Augusto on May 07, 2019, 05:57:58 PM
Paced the 3:30 group last Sunday at the LI Marathon.
A little gutsy as I missed 5wks recently for a knee issue.
Also, 14 miles was my longest run since January but I figured I was good to run 8:00 all day.
It poured like a mutha all day. Had a small group at the start going for 3:30, but most dropped off early. Had two guys at 16M and one at 18M. Dude's previous PR was 3:47, so he was going big!
Long story short, he nailed it! I cut him loose at 25M and he went on to run 3:28.40. Huge PR and negative split!
I came in at 3:29.30, also with a negative half.
Very rewarding getting that dude to his goal.
Sick dude! Nice work!
Quote from: Caravan2001 on May 07, 2019, 09:50:25 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on May 07, 2019, 05:57:58 PM
Paced the 3:30 group last Sunday at the LI Marathon.
A little gutsy as I missed 5wks recently for a knee issue.
Also, 14 miles was my longest run since January but I figured I was good to run 8:00 all day.
It poured like a mutha all day. Had a small group at the start going for 3:30, but most dropped off early. Had two guys at 16M and one at 18M. Dude's previous PR was 3:47, so he was going big!
Long story short, he nailed it! I cut him loose at 25M and he went on to run 3:28.40. Huge PR and negative split!
I came in at 3:29.30, also with a negative half.
Very rewarding getting that dude to his goal.
Sick dude! Nice work!
So sick! Your pace control is fucking insane. Way to help that dude get it done!
I didn't post it in here before, but earlier this spring, Aug helped me get a personal best on a half as well, crushed it by 6 mins, about 27 sec/mile faster. He'd hooked me up with a solid training plan and coached me thru those last couple weeks. I know I thanked you then, but big ups and thanks on the paug as well.
Been out of commission for several weeks now with a hip stress fracture ( I shouldn't have ignored that hip pain for as long as I did) but finally starting to cross train and build back up, hoping to start slowly working in some short runs soon though. Still want to break that 2hr mark in a half by the fall. Just need to build back up slowly though. This recovery time hasn't been fun.
Chyeah!
Stinks that you're on the sidelines, but don't sweat it.
Get on the bike or in the pool if you're able to and you'll retain that fitness.
You guys are maniacs. Every time I check out this thread I realize how many light years away I am. But huge props to you guys nonetheless. You're killing it.
Thanks! Just keep running!
Great job!!
Snagged my 1st Boston Qualifying Time (BQ) on Sun in 3:09.20.
Might not make it to the 2020 race, but definitely the following year.
I have one more Marathon at the end of October as I start chipping away at that sub-3!
Nice work Aug. :beers:
Quote from: birdman on September 10, 2019, 05:25:39 PM
Nice work Aug. :beers:
Thanks! You anywhere near the course?
The race is on 420 next year :-o
Quote from: G. Augusto on September 10, 2019, 05:22:58 PM
Snagged my 1st Boston Qualifying Time (BQ) on Sun in 3:09.20.
Might not make it to the 2020 race, but definitely the following year.
I have one more Marathon at the end of October as I start chipping away at that sub-3!
Nice job dude. You've been putting in the work for sure. Good for you!
Awesome!!!!
I ran Boston once as a bandit, tried to qualify but was 10 minutes too slow
You will have a blast
Congrats!!!
Wow Aug, good on ya. :clap:
Thanks, guys!
Starting up a fresh (yet short) training cycle today!
Also, my buddy on the left in that group pic ran his first Marathon that day in 3:37!
He just turned 61 years old :-o
Never too late to start!
Quote from: August on September 14, 2019, 03:30:48 AM
Also, my buddy on the left in that group pic ran his first Marathon that day in 3:37!
He just turned 61 years old :-o
Never too late to start!
Gives us old guys some hope!