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Title: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 11, 2007, 01:12:12 PM
I just thought I'd start another thread on Jazz. Anything goes. Just like jazz. For instance-
I've been listening to a great McCoy Tyner(piano) album called "The Real McCoy" with Joe Henderson on Sax,Elvin Jones on drums.
The piano for me is a great tool in understanding music and jazz for that matter from a theory standpoint. So,with that said I've also been enjoying the music of Bill Evans,Oscar Peterson,Art Tatum.
Thanks-Converse.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: ucusty on April 11, 2007, 01:14:39 PM
the sirius jazz channels are good
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 11, 2007, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: ucusty on April 11, 2007, 01:14:39 PM
the sirius jazz channels are good
Cool. Any jams that standout in your mind from Sirius? :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: ucusty on April 11, 2007, 01:23:57 PM
Bitches Brew!!!
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: rowjimmy on April 11, 2007, 01:24:57 PM
I'm a big McCoy Tyner fan. The way he blocks his chords is powerful and moving.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 11, 2007, 01:28:33 PM
Quote from: ucusty on April 11, 2007, 01:23:57 PM
Bitches Brew!!!
Yeah cool. I just picked up a book of Miles Davis arrangements for solo guitar. The player who wrote the book picked up the guitar at eight. Soothing chords for the "Blue In Green" arrangement which was actually written by Bill Evans.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 11, 2007, 01:38:20 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on April 11, 2007, 01:24:57 PM
I'm a big McCoy Tyner fan. The way he blocks his chords is powerful and moving.
He's a really powerful force on the piano. Really driving. Any particular McCoy albums that inspire you as of late(that you're listening to)?
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 11, 2007, 01:48:13 PM
I'm eyeing Wayne Shorter's "Speak No Evil" on Amazon right now....but I just bought an electric guitar. Back away from the diamond. :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: susep on April 11, 2007, 01:49:17 PM
(http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/1d/94/4ad292c008a045b06f494010._AA240_.L.jpg)

I've been listening to this album, great stuff.  I'm not a big Methany fan per se but his collab w/ Ornette brings out some interesting playing.  
Also listening to a lot of  :syf: Spring '72, the Dark Stars and The Other Ones contain very jazzy improv., some of their best.  
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 11, 2007, 01:56:04 PM
Ornette Coleman created the term "Harmolodics". Joe Zawinul calls it "nobody solos,everybody solos" according to Wikipedia. Ornette has in the past used a plastic saxophone. He probably still does. I can't wait to catch him at Bonnaroo. :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: rowjimmy on April 11, 2007, 02:01:22 PM
I actually haven't gone around through my jazz records in a while but...
Solo stuff (off the top of my head):
Expansions
Super Trios

Those are choice records.

I'm mostly familiar him from his work with Coltrane starting with "My Favorite Things" (not their first together but the earliest one I think I've heard,) through the classic Impulse albums.

He's also on some great mid-late 60s Lee Morgan records (Deelightful & Blue Breakbeats) to name a couple. and some good Wayne Shorter stuff.

I usta scoop up all kinds of stuff on vinyl with the basic threads of personell running back to Mile Davis or Coltrane's bands. If it was on Blue Note, Verve, or Impulse and had anyone from that broad circle, I'd grab it. McCoy Tyner led me to Grant Green, for example (Solid).
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: rowjimmy on April 11, 2007, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: converse29 on April 11, 2007, 01:56:04 PM
Ornette Coleman ...I can't wait to catch him at Bonnaroo. :-D

Likewise  8-)
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 11, 2007, 02:06:46 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on April 11, 2007, 02:01:22 PM
I actually haven't gone around through my jazz records in a while but...
Solo stuff (off the top of my head):
Expansions
Super Trios

Those are choice records.

I'm mostly familiar him from his work with Coltrane starting with "My Favorite Things" (not their first together but the earliest one I think I've heard,) through the classic Impulse albums.

He's also on some great mid-late 60s Lee Morgan records (Deelightful & Blue Breakbeats) to name a couple. and some good Wayne Shorter stuff.

I usta scoop up all kinds of stuff on vinyl with the basic threads of personell running back to Mile Davis or Coltrane's bands. If it was on Blue Note, Verve, or Impulse and had anyone from that broad circle, I'd grab it. McCoy Tyner led me to Grant Green, for example (Solid).
I'm slowly building a solo McCoy Tyner collection myself. The sixties as we all know brought great performances from McCoy throughout the ten year span.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: rowjimmy on April 11, 2007, 02:07:28 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on April 11, 2007, 02:01:22 PM
I usta scoop up all kinds of stuff on vinyl with the basic threads of personell running back to Mile Davis or Coltrane's bands. If it was on Blue Note, Verve, or Impulse and had anyone from that broad circle, I'd grab it. McCoy Tyner led me to Grant Green, for example (Solid).

Another Piano Player who is worth mentioning is Andrew Hill.

I think it was Joe Henderson, Tony Williams and Blue Note that drew me to his record "Point Of Departure". "Smokestack" is another great record.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on April 11, 2007, 02:16:49 PM
I'll start with McCoy, cause that was the initial post today (I think). Can't say enough - kinda plays piano almost like Trane played sax. Reminds me of a waterfall that keeps going. Love what he does on My favorite Things.
Don't have many of his albums. The one that comes to mind is Infinity (w Michael Brecker). I saw the tour that supported that cd - unbelievable show and great disc also. I should check out other releases though.
I picked up a nice show of his on LL with Pharoah sanders
http://db.etree.org/myshows_detail.php?showid=6641291

The Pat Methaney show on LL is worth grabbing. I admire his talent but haven't been a great fan of his. Really enjoy this show though.
Pat Metheny Trio w.D.Sanchez2005-09-17.fob.dpa4023.tomp.flac16
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 11, 2007, 02:20:26 PM
 
Quote from: slslbs on April 11, 2007, 02:16:49 PM
I'll start with McCoy, cause that was the initial post today (I think). Can't say enough - kinda plays piano almost like Trane played sax. Reminds me of a waterfall that keeps going. Love what he does on My favorite Things.
McCoy reminds me of thunder....maybe..a nuclear explosion. The imagery is vast for me when I listen to him.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: jam> on April 11, 2007, 03:41:42 PM
In some 90's Rolling Stone article on the Dead, the author compares Bob Weirs rythmn playing to Tyner's right hand
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: rowjimmy on April 11, 2007, 06:34:06 PM
Weir's left hand can span approx. 20 frets.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: newplanet7 on April 11, 2007, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: converse29 on April 11, 2007, 01:12:12 PM
I just thought I'd start another thread on Jazz. Anything goes. Just like jazz. For instance-
I've been listening to a great McCoy Tyner(piano) album called "The Real McCoy" with Joe Henderson on Sax,Elvin Jones on drums.
The piano for me is a great tool in understanding music and jazz for that matter from a theory standpoint. So,with that said I've been enjoying the music of Bill Evans,Oscar Peterson,Art Tatum.
Thanks-Converse.

Great album. Saw him with Mcbride and Ravi Coltrane at Newport Jazzfest in '05.
I do believe McBride is on that album too.

I've been listening to Cannonball Adderly lately.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sophist on April 11, 2007, 10:23:38 PM
Quote from: susep73 on April 11, 2007, 01:49:17 PM
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I've been listening to this album, great stuff.  I'm not a big Methany fan per se but his collab w/ Ornette brings out some interesting playing. 
Also listening to a lot of  :syf: Spring '72, the Dark Stars and The Other Ones contain very jazzy improv., some of their best. 
Endangered Species is the worst song on that album, I can't stand it. 
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: susep on April 11, 2007, 10:44:34 PM
Quote from: phan003 on April 11, 2007, 10:23:38 PM
Endangered Species is the worst song on that album, I can't stand it. 

I love ecological titles. :-P
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on April 12, 2007, 12:38:09 PM
thought I would continue this thread  - jumping from McCoy to some younger piano players who deserve a listen
Brad Mehldau
Danillo Perez
Michelle Camilo
Jacky Terrason

Mehldau seems to be graduating from clubs to small theaters. The others I think tour mostly in clubs. catch 'em if you can
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 14, 2007, 11:52:14 AM
Quote from: newplanet7 on April 11, 2007, 07:55:19 PM
Great album. Saw him with Mcbride and Ravi Coltrane at Newport Jazzfest in '05.
I do believe McBride is on that album too.

I've been listening to Cannonball Adderly lately.
That's great. I had a good time hearing Wynton Marsalis live at the Cumberland County Civic Center back in 1996. "The Real McCoy" has Ron Carter playing bass. McBride is a great player,too. McCoy at Newport with Coltrane's son....priceless. :-D
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: mattstick on April 14, 2007, 12:47:24 PM

Also on the Jazz piano players tip - everyone should listen to Bill Evans all the time.

Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: cactusfan on April 14, 2007, 03:39:28 PM
Quote from: susep73 on April 11, 2007, 01:49:17 PM
(http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/1d/94/4ad292c008a045b06f494010._AA240_.L.jpg)

I've been listening to this album, great stuff.  I'm not a big Methany fan per se but his collab w/ Ornette brings out some interesting playing.  
 

i love this album. i'm also not a big metheny fan, but this is great. and that includes endangered species!
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 14, 2007, 11:15:55 PM
Quote from: mattstick on April 14, 2007, 12:47:24 PM
Also on the Jazz piano players tip - everyone should listen to Bill Evans all the time.


True. His chord voicings are so creative. Check him out on MySpace for some great tunes. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=47861933
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 15, 2007, 01:05:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qulAT0w_194
For the McCoy Tyner and Coltrane listener. A little Eric Dolphy as well. :clap:
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: mattstick on April 15, 2007, 02:13:41 PM

John McLaughlin did a nice tribute album to Bill Evans, worth checking out...

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0000046RT.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_SS500_.jpg)
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: susep on April 15, 2007, 06:00:30 PM
Quote from: mattstick on April 15, 2007, 02:13:41 PM
John McLaughlin did a nice tribute album to Bill Evans, worth checking out...

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0000046RT.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_SS500_.jpg)

He also did a Coltrane Tribute that was ok.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 15, 2007, 10:37:19 PM
Staying on topic here's a solid pairing of great guitar players on YouTube performing "All Blues". Bireli Lagrene and John McLaughlin.  :-D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzp77NkF0JY
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: susep on April 15, 2007, 11:06:20 PM
Staying on the jazz guitar trip, here's a great 2002 performance from Marc Ribot:

[youtube=425,350]uGSI8CuH1nQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 15, 2007, 11:30:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PukuQPUKfyU

A McCoy Tyner live solo take. "Giant Steps". A must see. :beers:
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on April 16, 2007, 05:11:05 PM
saw Ravi Coltrane and David Sanchez at the Blue Note this weekend. Really dug Sanchez.
As we left, there was a long line of people waiting to get into the late show. Overheard a guy on his cell phone - "there's something going on here outside this place called the Blue Note - line is down the block. What the hell is this place?"

thanks for the McCoy link
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 16, 2007, 05:23:18 PM
Quote from: slslbs on April 16, 2007, 05:11:05 PM
saw Ravi Coltrane and David Sanchez at the Blue Note this weekend. Really dug Sanchez.
As we left, there was a long line of people waiting to get into the late show. Overheard a guy on his cell phone - "there's something going on here outside this place called the Blue Note - line is down the block. What the hell is this place?"

thanks for the McCoy link
Your welcome. The guy who was on his cellphone is deep into jazz, you can just tell. :lol:
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 16, 2007, 05:55:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnrmFMnrxAU&mode=related&search=
Joe Pass and Oscar Peterson performing "Soft Winds". Check it.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: Gumbo72203 on April 16, 2007, 07:46:23 PM
i listened to The Real McCoy last week at work.  thats a GREAT freakin album!!  The playing on that is just monstrous...  i love it.  The lineup is great. 
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: redrum on April 16, 2007, 09:43:59 PM
all i gotta say is dennis chambers..

..and mike stern.

anyone who doesn't know, do yourself a favor and check these guys out.

http://www.dennischambers.com/

http://www.mikestern.org/

wow, i just checked out DC's site.. it's freshly updated and really dope. make sure you click on videos, there are some with mike stern. these guys are unreal!

enjoy.

Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: susep on April 16, 2007, 11:20:36 PM
Quote from: converse29 on April 16, 2007, 05:55:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnrmFMnrxAU&mode=related&search=
Joe Pass and Oscar Peterson performing "Soft Winds". Check it.

Pass is ineffable.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on April 17, 2007, 05:32:12 AM
Quote from: SHredDrum on April 16, 2007, 09:43:59 PM
all i gotta say is dennis chambers..

..and mike stern.

anyone who doesn't know, do yourself a favor and check these guys out.

http://www.dennischambers.com/

http://www.mikestern.org/

wow, i just checked out DC's site.. it's freshly updated and really dope. make sure you click on videos, there are some with mike stern. these guys are unreal!

enjoy.


never heard chambers, but mike stern is great
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on April 17, 2007, 09:19:09 AM
Quote from: SHredDrum on April 16, 2007, 09:43:59 PM
all i gotta say is dennis chambers..

..and mike stern.

anyone who doesn't know, do yourself a favor and check these guys out.

http://www.dennischambers.com/

http://www.mikestern.org/

wow, i just checked out DC's site.. it's freshly updated and really dope. make sure you click on videos, there are some with mike stern. these guys are unreal!

enjoy.


Yeah, Dennis Chambers is an exceptional drummer. A buddy of mine a few years ago let me borrow a D. Chambers instructional video. Scofield was on the tape as well(VHS :-D). His feet are quick and precise,Billy Cobham-like.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: redrum on April 17, 2007, 11:33:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uDZBIBfOeY

here's a link of of dennis with john mclaughlin.

dennis used to play with p-funk back in the day.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: redrum on April 18, 2007, 07:17:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNNcMDZn2Qk

thought everyone would dig this.

it's worthy for sure.

enjoy.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on April 18, 2007, 08:55:03 PM
for some reason, I can't get youtube right now :frustrated:

this looks great-metheny-mehldau
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=505962&viewcomm=277611#comm277611
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: susep on May 20, 2007, 04:09:20 PM
Cool performance by John McLaughlin on The Tonight Show:

[youtube=425,350]Om6HDUKBbzE[/youtube]
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: converse29 on May 21, 2007, 01:28:26 PM
Quote from: susep73 on May 20, 2007, 04:09:20 PM
Cool performance by John McLaughlin on The Tonight Show:

[youtube=425,350]Om6HDUKBbzE[/youtube]
Indeed. Big band madness. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: rowjimmy on May 21, 2007, 01:37:20 PM
Awesome. I love how easily he slides into shred mode. That's a classic, once in a lifetime, performance, right there.

I'm gonna go home and put on "Love Devotion Surrender"
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sophist on May 21, 2007, 05:06:42 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on May 21, 2007, 01:37:20 PM
Awesome. I love how easily he slides into shred mode. That's a classic, once in a lifetime, performance, right there.

I'm gonna go home and put on "Love Devotion Surrender"
excellent album.  I really love the flow of it. 
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: kellerb on May 21, 2007, 08:12:05 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on May 21, 2007, 01:37:20 PM
Awesome. I love how easily he slides into shred mode. That's a classic, once in a lifetime, performance, right there.


I like how youtube's framerate can't handle his playing and it looks like his fingers are blurring together.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: cactusfan on May 22, 2007, 12:26:52 AM
Quote from: kellerb on May 21, 2007, 08:12:05 PM
I like how youtube's framerate can't handle his playing and it looks like his fingers are blurring together.

that's not youtube. his fingers actually ARE blurring together, he's playing so fast.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: Devendra on May 22, 2007, 02:09:10 AM
For those who enjoy improvised piano ensemble playing, check out "Sweeter Than The Day"- one of their recent shows in Seattle is seeding right now at bt.etree. Very tasty.

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=506717
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: Devendra on May 22, 2007, 02:18:46 AM

Sweeter Than The Day, also known, in their fully electric iteration, as Zony Mash. This same show is also being seeded at dimeadozen.org under the "Jazz" category....
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on May 22, 2007, 07:28:12 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on May 21, 2007, 01:37:20 PM
Awesome. I love how easily he slides into shred mode. That's a classic, once in a lifetime, performance, right there.

yep, except for JM, that wasn't once in a lifetime

Quotethat's not youtube. his fingers actually ARE blurring together, he's playing so fast.
actually, on my monitor screen, I saw smoke coming from the fretboard
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: rowjimmy on May 22, 2007, 07:42:34 AM
Quote from: slslbs on May 22, 2007, 07:28:12 AM
yep, except for JM, that wasn't once in a lifetime

Live (on videotape) with the tonight show band? even if he came back everyday for a week, each one is a once-in-a-lifetime performance.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on May 22, 2007, 09:43:59 AM
gotcha - I thought you meant the quality of JM's solo in particular. Looking at the big picture, your right.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: kellerb on May 22, 2007, 12:47:51 PM
Quote from: cactusfan on May 22, 2007, 12:26:52 AM
that's not youtube. his fingers actually ARE blurring together, he's playing so fast.

Its like he's so fast his fingers are travelling into the future to play more notes
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: rowjimmy on May 22, 2007, 01:11:22 PM
They travel into the future, find the right note and then return and deliver the goods.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: Gumbo72203 on May 22, 2007, 09:06:37 PM
Does anyone here have BET's Jazz channel?  Its freakin' sweet, they have a show called "Studio Jams" where its just mad people in a studio jamming... it was so sick.  last night they had a drummer, electric violin, bass, sax, keys, guitar.  i can't remember any of their names, but it was so dank. 
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on May 22, 2007, 09:33:28 PM
it's one of the 250 or so channels that we get that I don't watch. perhaps I should.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: rowjimmy on May 22, 2007, 09:44:26 PM
That's why I stopped paying for all those channels. I don't miss them.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on May 22, 2007, 10:36:54 PM
agreed. there are a few that we want, but the package comes with a boatload of channels. the only ones we can really pick and choose are the "premium", which we don't get.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: Gumbo72203 on May 23, 2007, 12:46:27 PM
yeah no dude, the BET jazz channel is actually pretty good.  sure theres some really lame stuff on occasionally, but those studio jam shows are wicked cool
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: rowjimmy on May 23, 2007, 01:02:34 PM
Doubt its worth the $50/month I'd have to pay to get it and 250 channels of timewasting dreck.
/me is so glad he cut back on tv.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: haleakalari on May 24, 2007, 02:06:23 PM
ditto on the tv, i have not had cable for around a year now, even basic cable. would you folks group highlife with jazz, stuff like e.t. mensah or bembeya jazz national?
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on May 24, 2007, 08:34:04 PM
don't know those artists, but to me jazz encompasses pretty much almost everything that's improvisational. When I tell people what I listen to, I prefer the term improvisational music, to include artists like GD, Phish, etc along with what is typically considered jazz. Labels of genres tend to be inaccurate, etc.

Anyway, thought it would be interesting to share 2 versions of Ornette's Lonely Woman I just grabbed. One is by Ornette. The other, Charlie Haden - Branford, Kenny Kirkland (RIP), Billly Higgins. Haden and Higgins played on the original.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/oz0ixe
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: mattstick on October 21, 2014, 04:04:10 PM

Thought I'd bump this thread because I just found a couple great titles for cheap on the iTunes store.

Grachan Moncur III - Some Other Stuff (RVG remaster) ($1.99)

Art Blakey - Free For All ($3.49)

Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: mattstick on January 09, 2015, 01:42:28 PM
http://www.bluenote.com/spotlight/wayne-shorter-etcetera

SPOTLIGHT

Wayne Shorter, Etcetera

WAYNE SHORTER "ETCETERA"
January 9 2015

In Harold and the Purple Crayon," a children's book from 1955, the intrepid hero, a sturdy toddler, decides to go for a walk in the moonlight. There is no moon, and so, with his purple crayon, Harold draws one, and then decides to draw a straight path to walk upon. When this leads him nowhere, he follows his crayon—under the moon's watchful eye—through a series of adventures, conjuring a field, a forest, an apple tree, a nasty dragon, an ocean, a sailboat, a beach, a picnic lunch of pie, a moose and a porcupine to eat it, a mountain to climb, a balloon to ferry him down it, a house, a front yard, a city full of windows, and a policeman to point the way home. Then, finally, he draws his bedroom window around the moon, draws his bed, draws himself under the covers, drops the pen and goes to sleep.

This synesthetic process is not unlike what Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock, Cecil McBee, and Joe Chambers did at Rudy Van Gelder's studio on June 14, 1965, when they made Etcetera, Shorter's fifth recording for Blue Note. Like each of Shorter's other Blue Note sessions from that era, it was a one-shot affair.  "There was nothing developmental as a band," he told his biographer Michelle Mercer. "A recording was just one movie, and then the next was another movie, in a kind of dream away from Miles."

The notion of an imaginary screenplay in notes and tones suits the ambiance of this exceptional date. Each piece evokes a fantasy world, tells a story with a beginning, a middle and an end upon which the protagonists improvise, creating lines that assume a life of their own and following them wherever they choose. As Hancock put it thirty-seven years later, "The world is Wayne's stage; he can grab a metaphor from almost anything in life."

Perhaps that cinematic, episodic quality is one reason why Etcetera, which would not be released until fifteen years after it was recorded, resonates so deeply with numerous Boomer jazzfolk. Another is the humanity of Shorter's instrumental voice, efflorescent in the quartet setting, emotional, hardcore, expressing the same passion, vulnerability and free spirit that suffuses his pieces.

Consider the kaleidoscopic emotional range conveyed on the noirish title track, on which the leader and Hancock, already close friends after nine months together with Miles, offer soliloquies conveying ecstasy, torment, and angst, navigating the tricky harmonic terrain with melodies that meander through, around, and in synch with Joe Chambers' roiling, orchestrative, funky beats. On the meditative "Penelope," dedicated perhaps to the wife of Odysseus or to a real, live woman (Shorter doesn't say), the composer channels his inner Strayhorn, while on "Toy Tune," a mid-tempo swinger that doesn't settle on a key center, Shorter offers a master class on building tension over multiple choruses. On Gil Evans' "Barracudas," he uncorks a Coltrane-inflected declamation (Hancock's response is equally intense) whose thematic coherence is undoubtedly informed by his year-earlier solo flight on Evans' swirling arrangement of that piece on The Individualism of Gil Evans.  Of "Indian Song," an anthemic line propelled by Cecil McBee's insistent bass vamp and Joe Chambers' impeccable, surging, polyrhythmic 5/4 beat, Shorter further refracts Coltrane's syntax and spirit into his own argot on a lengthy first section, before Hancock, himself a force of nature, completely changes the feel.

Perhaps another reason why Etcetera has become such a notable signpost is that, as much as any other Shorter album, it emblemizes an aspiration that Shorter stated in 2003, while traveling in Europe with his present quartet in the aftermath of the U.S. invasion of Iraq. "Music is a part of the struggle," he said. "They talk about the unknown factor—they don't know what's going to happen. Why don't we do that every night on stage?  There's no school, no university for the unknown. Music is mysterious. Everything is. The unexpected is what's happening."
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: mattstick on January 09, 2015, 01:50:12 PM

WTF are those missing plugin things and how do I get rid of them?
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: susep on April 30, 2015, 02:16:35 PM
http://www.myplaydirect.com/miles-davis/details/117391280

hoping for a vinyl release!
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: cactusfan on December 02, 2015, 03:29:07 PM
just received this amazing Sun Ra poster in the mail:

(https://images.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/167187658/max_h-1000+max_w-1000/Sun_Ra_1000px.jpg)


looks like it's still available at Black Dragon Press, if ya like this sort of thing.
it's about 40 inches by 27 inches, printed on thick paper, with seriously vibrant colors.
limited editon of 125.

http://blackdragonpress.bigcartel.com/product/space-is-the-place
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: zimbra on December 02, 2015, 09:20:21 PM
I cannot get off the Chet Baker vinyl lately! soo good.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: mattstick on September 22, 2016, 06:46:34 AM

Miles Davis Quintet: Freedom Jazz Dance: The Bootleg Series, Vol. 5

https://www.amazon.com/Miles-Davis-Quintet-Freedom-Bootleg/dp/B01KKYZQP4

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/premieres/hear-miles-davis-request-champagne-rehearse-band-in-1967-w440754
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: Superfreakie on September 22, 2016, 07:52:26 AM
Quote from: mattstick on September 22, 2016, 06:46:34 AM

Miles Davis Quintet: Freedom Jazz Dance: The Bootleg Series, Vol. 5

https://www.amazon.com/Miles-Davis-Quintet-Freedom-Bootleg/dp/B01KKYZQP4

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/premieres/hear-miles-davis-request-champagne-rehearse-band-in-1967-w440754

Awesome. The bootleg series has been fantastic.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: mattstick on September 22, 2016, 09:43:31 AM

For some reason the CDs are $86 on amazon.ca

Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: mattstick on April 23, 2017, 09:03:01 PM
Tony Allen's Art Blakey tribute on Blue Note is super cool...
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: Buffalo Budd on July 27, 2017, 07:55:26 AM
I had never heard of Terri Lyne Carrington but stumbled upon this yesterday and they are pretty phenomenal.
All woman cast and they rip...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKQRms3bUS0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKQRms3bUS0)
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on July 27, 2017, 09:54:33 AM
she's great, thanks for posting

check out her remake of the Money Jungle album
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: Buffalo Budd on July 27, 2017, 11:25:29 AM
Quote from: slslbs on July 27, 2017, 09:54:33 AM
she's great, thanks for posting

check out her remake of the Money Jungle album

Thanks for the rec sls, going to check it out.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: jam> on September 30, 2017, 12:16:16 PM
New Kamasi Washington EP is good! Will buy the vinyl.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: Buffalo Budd on January 03, 2019, 07:47:32 AM
https://www.facebook.com/LucidJazzFusion/videos/2312358562320635/ (https://www.facebook.com/LucidJazzFusion/videos/2312358562320635/)
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on January 03, 2019, 10:00:45 AM
check out Christian McBride, New Jawn
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: mopper_smurf on January 03, 2019, 11:15:59 AM
Punk jazz anyone? Meet Benjamin Herman's Bughouse

https://youtu.be/FhC6olXmHTE

Going to see these guys on Jan 12.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: gah on January 03, 2019, 03:07:00 PM
Funny we've all been exploring some jazz....these young bloods out of london are bringing something special

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwVtIPeYIeQ&start_radio=1&list=RDNwVtIPeYIeQ
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: mopper_smurf on January 03, 2019, 03:25:34 PM
Quote from: gah on January 03, 2019, 03:07:00 PM
Funny we've all been exploring some jazz....these young bloods out of london are bringing something special

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwVtIPeYIeQ&start_radio=1&list=RDNwVtIPeYIeQ

Nice. I need to hear more. Google in 4, 3, 2, 1 ..
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: mattstick on April 23, 2019, 10:08:51 AM

I've recently learned that many people are unaware that Thelonious Monk is a jazz musician, most people seem to believe he is a fictional detective.
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: gah on April 23, 2019, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: mattstick on April 23, 2019, 10:08:51 AM

I've recently learned that many people are unaware that Thelonious Monk is a jazz musician, most people seem to believe he is a fictional detective.

shut up  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: mattstick on August 16, 2019, 10:06:46 AM
New?!? Coltrane recorded in '64 being released in September

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/16/751516859/a-lost-album-from-john-coltrane-is-found-with-thanks-to-a-french-canadian-direct
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on August 16, 2019, 12:08:09 PM
I guess I know what new music I will get for my B-Day now
:music:
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: mopper_smurf on August 17, 2019, 08:29:26 AM
Quote from: sls.stormyrider on August 16, 2019, 12:08:09 PM
I guess I know what new music I will get for my B-Day now
:music:
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: mattstick on March 20, 2020, 10:10:52 AM

New Art Blakey!

https://store.acousticsounds.com/d/149646/Art_Blakey__The_Jazz_Messengers-Just_Coolin-Vinyl_Record

Unreleased studio date with Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers!

No drummer more palpably imprinted their sonic identity and aesthetic principles on the soundtrack and culture of late 20th- and early 21st-century jazz than Art Blakey.

In early 2020, Blue Note plans to release Just Coolin', a previously unissued studio date from March 8, 1959, with the same personnel: Lee Morgan on trumpet, DownBeat Hall of Fame inductee Hank Mobley on tenor saxophone, Bobby Timmons on piano and Jymie Merritt on bass — who made the classic live album At The Jazz Corner Of The World five weeks later.

For 35 years, Blakey's vehicle was the Jazz Messengers; their message remains as vibrant as ever in the year of the leader's centennial. Tribute bands led by acolytes Ralph Peterson, Carl Allen and Lewis Nash continue to channel Blakey's mojo on Messenger repertoire by notable alumni such as Benny Golson, Wayne Shorter, Lee Morgan, Freddie Hubbard, Curtis Fuller and Bobby Watson.

Blakey's five-star drumming was the core of his immense footprint. "Art could reach inside your emotions," Golson said on WKCR in 1996. "There was no wasted effort when he played. It was meaningful, logical and sounded fantastic — the epitome of swinging. His style was such that you didn't want to hear or play with any other style."



   Side A:
   1. Hipsippy Blues
   2. Close Your Eyes
   3. Jimerick
   
Side B:
   1. Quick Trick
   2. M&M
   3. Just Coolin'
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on March 23, 2020, 02:45:50 PM
cool, thanks for the heads up
Title: Re: Jazz Thread
Post by: Caravan2001 on March 23, 2020, 04:19:35 PM
Sweet!