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Title: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: VDB on July 27, 2017, 06:27:37 PM
Can we just start a thread about the dumpster volcano that is the White House comms department? Too late for poor old Spicey (RIP) but just in time for Anthony "Big Tony" "Mooch" "Gucci" Scaramucci, who just might be a lunatic. Here's (http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/anthony-scaramucci-called-me-to-unload-about-white-house-leakers-reince-priebus-and-steve-bannon) him getting nuts with a New Yorker columnist last night.

It just keeps on coming, doesn't it?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: aphineday on July 27, 2017, 07:24:03 PM
This guy is such a slimeball, he makes Dick Nixon look clean.
I'm technically referring to Scaramucci here, but you can subsititute "Trump" with no problems.
I am at least reasonably confident that Trump may end up in prison now, so that's good at least.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: VDB on July 27, 2017, 07:40:32 PM
Frankly, I want The Mooch to take over the lectern, too.

You'd need premium cable to watch.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on July 27, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
The Apprentice:  White House Edition, Season One, sure is fun to watch.  Although I hope it gets cancelled soon.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mistercharlie on July 27, 2017, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: mbw on July 27, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
The Apprentice:  White House Edition, Season One, sure is fun to watch.  Although I hope it gets cancelled soon.

:clap: Well done, sir. I commend you.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on July 28, 2017, 10:06:06 AM
Quote from: mistercharlie on July 27, 2017, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: mbw on July 27, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
The Apprentice:  White House Edition, Season One, sure is fun to watch.  Although I hope it gets cancelled soon.

:clap: Well done, sir. I commend you.

I'm still surprised someone in the studio's greenlighted this project.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on July 28, 2017, 10:23:52 AM
Quote from: gah on July 28, 2017, 10:06:06 AM
Quote from: mistercharlie on July 27, 2017, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: mbw on July 27, 2017, 07:42:58 PM
The Apprentice:  White House Edition, Season One, sure is fun to watch.  Although I hope it gets cancelled soon.

:clap: Well done, sir. I commend you.

I'm still surprised someone in the studio's greenlighted this project.

Yeah.  The viewers asked for a different show. 
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on July 28, 2017, 10:40:05 AM
worst pres in my lifetime - including Nixon
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: aphineday on July 28, 2017, 11:48:46 AM
Quote from: slslbs on July 28, 2017, 10:40:05 AM
worst pres in my lifetime - including Nixon
Yeah, not even comparable to any other president.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on July 28, 2017, 02:17:10 PM
Whenever you think it can't get more chaotic, it does. And to see it all crumbling so quickly, the rest of the world moving on in a post american leadership way, its astounding. I wonder if the damage being done is reversible, or if this is just the beginning of the fall from grace.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Hicks on July 28, 2017, 02:22:32 PM
Quote from: gah on July 28, 2017, 02:17:10 PM
Whenever you think it can't get more chaotic, it does. And to see it all crumbling so quickly, the rest of the world moving on in a post american leadership way, its astounding. I wonder if the damage being done is reversible, or if this is just the beginning of the fall from grace.

Pretty sure the fall from grace goes back to Watergate or even JFK's assassination. 

It's just a whole lot more obvious now.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 28, 2017, 02:43:00 PM
I will never forgive the Mooch for putting the mental image of Steve Bannon self-sucking in my head.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on July 28, 2017, 04:05:09 PM
Quote from: slslbs on July 28, 2017, 10:40:05 AM
worst pres in my lifetime - including Nixon

It depresses me to believe, but I bet there are millions of Americans who vehemently disagree with that statement
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on July 28, 2017, 06:56:29 PM
RIP Reince.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Augustus on July 28, 2017, 07:32:33 PM
The President of the United States of America was on Long Island today to address a recent growth in gang violence here.
His rally was only open to police.
He endorsed police brutality.

https://patch.com/new-york/smithtown/s/g6xev/video-trump-endorses-police-brutality-during-ms-13-talk-long-island?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_term=politics+%26+government&utm_campaign=autopost&utm_content=smithtown

This guy!!!
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on July 28, 2017, 07:37:00 PM
This guy is even making augusto post in the politics threads!
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on July 28, 2017, 08:17:28 PM
Quote from: mbw on July 28, 2017, 07:37:00 PM
This guy is even making augusto post in the politics threads!

:-o
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 28, 2017, 08:18:48 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on July 28, 2017, 08:17:28 PM
Quote from: mbw on July 28, 2017, 07:37:00 PM
This guy is even making augusto post in the politics threads!

:-o

oh shit.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on July 28, 2017, 08:22:10 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on July 28, 2017, 08:18:48 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on July 28, 2017, 08:17:28 PM
Quote from: mbw on July 28, 2017, 07:37:00 PM
This guy is even making augusto post in the politics threads!

:-o

oh shit.

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2874597/kramer-s-worlds-collide-theory-o.gif)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Augustus on July 28, 2017, 09:03:43 PM
Up next, Video Games thread.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 29, 2017, 12:59:27 AM
Quote from: mbw on July 28, 2017, 07:37:00 PM
This guy is even making augusto post in the politics threads!

This fucking guy

Mind blown gif

Chalk Dust doe
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mistercharlie on July 29, 2017, 07:18:36 AM
Quote from: mbw on July 28, 2017, 06:56:29 PM
RIP Reince.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

/me queues up Queen...
"...And another one's gone, and another one's gone..."
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 29, 2017, 09:56:15 AM
Gold, Jerry...

http://www.theonion.com/infographic/onion-fact-checks-anthony-scaramuccis-new-yorker-i-56502 (http://www.theonion.com/infographic/onion-fact-checks-anthony-scaramuccis-new-yorker-i-56502)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on July 30, 2017, 03:45:15 PM
The best political journalism I've read in years
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on July 31, 2017, 02:41:20 PM
 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard The Mooch didn't last long, eh?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 31, 2017, 02:59:34 PM
Total fucking shitshow.

Guess you can lock this thread, VDB.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mehead on July 31, 2017, 03:00:53 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on July 31, 2017, 02:41:20 PM
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard The Mooch didn't last long, eh?

:shakehead:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: VDB on July 31, 2017, 03:07:07 PM
Nooooooooo!  :evil:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: kellerb on July 31, 2017, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on July 31, 2017, 02:41:20 PM
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard The Mooch didn't last long, eh?

That's what his kid said
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 31, 2017, 03:58:32 PM
Quote from: kellerb on July 31, 2017, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on July 31, 2017, 02:41:20 PM
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard The Mooch didn't last long, eh?

That's what his kid said

Oooof

You don't normally work so blue, KB. I like it.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on July 31, 2017, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 31, 2017, 02:59:34 PM
Total fucking shitshow.

Guess you can lock this thread, VDB.

understatement.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on July 31, 2017, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: kellerb on July 31, 2017, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on July 31, 2017, 02:41:20 PM
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard The Mooch didn't last long, eh?

That's what his kid said

lol
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 31, 2017, 04:40:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/c6aYgLY.jpg)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 31, 2017, 04:43:58 PM
also this...

(http://i.imgur.com/ugO8ER1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: kellerb on July 31, 2017, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 31, 2017, 03:58:32 PM
Quote from: kellerb on July 31, 2017, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on July 31, 2017, 02:41:20 PM
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard The Mooch didn't last long, eh?

That's what his kid said

Oooof

You don't normally work so blue, KB. I like it.

So the President of the United States, his daughter Ivanka, and various ex-WH staffers walk into a talent agent's office.....
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 31, 2017, 05:28:49 PM
Quote from: kellerb on July 31, 2017, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 31, 2017, 03:58:32 PM
Quote from: kellerb on July 31, 2017, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on July 31, 2017, 02:41:20 PM
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard The Mooch didn't last long, eh?

That's what his kid said

Oooof

You don't normally work so blue, KB. I like it.

So the President of the United States, his daughter Ivanka, and various ex-WH staffers walk into a talent agent's office.....

Screen doors on a submarine?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mistercharlie on July 31, 2017, 06:19:53 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on July 29, 2017, 07:18:36 AM
/me queues up Queen...
"...And another one's gone, and another one's gone..."

This one didn't last very long.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mistercharlie on July 31, 2017, 06:21:28 PM
Quote from: kellerb on July 31, 2017, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 31, 2017, 03:58:32 PM
Quote from: kellerb on July 31, 2017, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on July 31, 2017, 02:41:20 PM
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard The Mooch didn't last long, eh?

That's what his kid said

Oooof

You don't normally work so blue, KB. I like it.

So the President of the United States, his daughter Ivanka, and various ex-WH staffers walk into a talent agent's office.....
yada, yada, yada,
... The Aristocrats!
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: VDB on August 01, 2017, 12:52:57 PM
Flashback!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/taibbi-anthony-scaramucci-era-will-be-freakish-embarrassing-short-w494718
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on August 02, 2017, 06:37:30 PM
so, now they want to pass a bill that won't let you immigrate unless you already speak English

WTF???
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: aphineday on August 02, 2017, 07:27:01 PM
Quote from: slslbs on August 02, 2017, 06:37:30 PM
so, now they want to pass a bill that won't let you immigrate unless you already speak English

WTF???
Lol and no one has stepped up to bitch slap this asshole yet. I don't understand how we got here.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on August 02, 2017, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: aphineday on August 02, 2017, 07:27:01 PM
Quote from: slslbs on August 02, 2017, 06:37:30 PM
so, now they want to pass a bill that won't let you immigrate unless you already speak English

WTF???
Lol and no one has stepped up to bitch slap this asshole yet. I don't understand how we got here.

Did you see king douche, I mean Stephen Millers freakout with a reporter at the press conference today?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: aphineday on August 02, 2017, 08:29:36 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 02, 2017, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: aphineday on August 02, 2017, 07:27:01 PM
Quote from: slslbs on August 02, 2017, 06:37:30 PM
so, now they want to pass a bill that won't let you immigrate unless you already speak English

WTF???
Lol and no one has stepped up to bitch slap this asshole yet. I don't understand how we got here.

Did you see king douche, I mean Stephen Millers freakout with a reporter at the press conference today?
No, but I'm about to look that up!
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on August 02, 2017, 08:45:46 PM
Quote from: aphineday on August 02, 2017, 08:29:36 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 02, 2017, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: aphineday on August 02, 2017, 07:27:01 PM
Quote from: slslbs on August 02, 2017, 06:37:30 PM
so, now they want to pass a bill that won't let you immigrate unless you already speak English

WTF???
Lol and no one has stepped up to bitch slap this asshole yet. I don't understand how we got here.

Did you see king douche, I mean Stephen Millers freakout with a reporter at the press conference today?
No, but I'm about to look that up!

I forgot that dickhole existed.  Man, this president sure knows how to pick 'em.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on August 02, 2017, 10:42:59 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 02, 2017, 08:45:46 PM
Quote from: aphineday on August 02, 2017, 08:29:36 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 02, 2017, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: aphineday on August 02, 2017, 07:27:01 PM
Quote from: slslbs on August 02, 2017, 06:37:30 PM
so, now they want to pass a bill that won't let you immigrate unless you already speak English

WTF???
Lol and no one has stepped up to bitch slap this asshole yet. I don't understand how we got here.

Did you see king douche, I mean Stephen Millers freakout with a reporter at the press conference today?
No, but I'm about to look that up!

I forgot that dickhole existed.  Man, this president sure knows how to pick 'em.

Well, now its if you speak english or invest in the Kush' company
:-o

www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-attorney-subpoenas-kushner-cos-over-investment-for-visa-program-1501717119
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: aphineday on August 02, 2017, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 02, 2017, 10:42:59 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 02, 2017, 08:45:46 PM
Quote from: aphineday on August 02, 2017, 08:29:36 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 02, 2017, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: aphineday on August 02, 2017, 07:27:01 PM
Quote from: slslbs on August 02, 2017, 06:37:30 PM
so, now they want to pass a bill that won't let you immigrate unless you already speak English

WTF???
Lol and no one has stepped up to bitch slap this asshole yet. I don't understand how we got here.

Did you see king douche, I mean Stephen Millers freakout with a reporter at the press conference today?
No, but I'm about to look that up!

I forgot that dickhole existed.  Man, this president sure knows how to pick 'em.

Well, now its if you speak english or invest in the Kush' company
:-o

www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-attorney-subpoenas-kushner-cos-over-investment-for-visa-program-1501717119

I literally lol'd.
Watched at setbreak.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on August 07, 2017, 05:12:26 PM
trump tv and real news....interesting. and it continues to get crazier...good times
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: aphineday on August 07, 2017, 08:34:50 PM
Quote from: gah on August 07, 2017, 05:12:26 PM
trump tv and real news....interesting. and it continues to get crazier...good times
It's fucking mind blowing
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on August 08, 2017, 04:58:15 PM
wtf is wrong with this guy? in re: to North Korea's furthering development of nuclear weapons...

Quote"North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States," Mr. Trump told reporters at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J. "They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. He has been very threatening beyond a normal state and as I said they will be met with fire and fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before."

This is what it looks like when two fucking psychopaths are on a collision course.  :shakehead:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on August 08, 2017, 05:06:33 PM
yep. the 2 most emotionally unstable world leaders are at it on central stage.

This is where Kelley kidnaps Trump and takes over - or puts Pence in charge

:frustrated: :frustrated:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on August 08, 2017, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: slslbs on August 08, 2017, 05:06:33 PM
yep. the 2 most emotionally unstable world leaders are at it on central stage.

This is where Kelley kidnaps Trump and takes over - or puts Pence in charge

:frustrated: :frustrated:

I understand Gen Kelly was brought in to bring some order to this administration, but ultimately it's Trump that's the issue, and no one is going to be able to keep his mouth shut. Motherfucker has zero impulse control. He's a fucking maniac.

/obvious statements

:shakehead:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on August 08, 2017, 05:33:49 PM
that's why Kelley has to kidnap him

I'm pretty sure I saw a movie with a similar story line
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on August 08, 2017, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: slslbs on August 08, 2017, 05:06:33 PM
yep. the 2 most emotionally unstable world leaders are at it on central stage.

This is where Kelley kidnaps Trump and takes over - or puts Pence in charge

:frustrated: :frustrated:

We can only hope.  :|
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: VDB on August 08, 2017, 07:43:47 PM
Oh lord, that "Trump TV" stuff is laughably, transparently, pathetically unhelpful.

And you know millions of people will take it as chapter and verse.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mattstick on August 08, 2017, 07:47:33 PM

This Atlantic article is like literally the longest read ever but it puts your current state bullshit politics into a historical perspective:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/how-america-lost-its-mind/534231/
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: VDB on August 08, 2017, 11:22:34 PM
Trump retweets Fox News story said to contain leaked classified info (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/08/politics/trump-retweet-fox-news-north-korea-story-haley/index.html).

Your move, Sessions.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: aphineday on August 08, 2017, 11:45:45 PM
Quote from: slslbs on August 08, 2017, 05:06:33 PM
yep. the 2 most emotionally unstable world leaders are at it on central stage.

This is where Kelley kidnaps Trump and takes over - or puts Pence in charge

:frustrated: :frustrated:
We can only hope, and I'm no fan of Mike Pence, but at least he's not a child.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: kellerb on August 09, 2017, 09:42:36 AM
Do we really know if the new Lil' Kim is actually unstable?  He might just be clever, and playing a role.

Regardless, we should let those two settle it elementary school playground style.  A slap-fight, then they both cry while the adults separate them.


Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: PIE-GUY on August 09, 2017, 10:04:48 AM
An excerpt from Carl Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World," first published in 1995.  :|

(http://i.imgur.com/ercHGLc.jpg)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: VDB on August 09, 2017, 10:16:14 AM
Wednesday morning quick-hitters!

1. Trump was pissed (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-clings-to-control-of-his-twitter-feed-as-john-kelly-consolidates-authority/article/2630900) when he found out CoS Kelly wanted to control his Twitter use.

2. Only in these wild and contradictory times could you see Stephen Miller say (https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/895081686681124864) "President Trump's the most gifted politician of our time, and he's the best orator to hold that office in generations." and conclude there may actually be something to it.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on August 15, 2017, 08:27:32 PM
Quote"I wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians, that what I said was correct, not make a quick statement. The statement I made on Saturday, the first statement, was a fine statement. But you don't make statements that direct unless you know the facts. It takes a little while to get the facts. ... I want to know the facts."

really??
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on August 15, 2017, 08:48:31 PM
This fucking guy.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on August 16, 2017, 09:33:39 AM
Quote from: mbw on August 15, 2017, 08:48:31 PM
This fucking piece of shit ignorant racist ass motherfucker president and all the dumb fucks that supported him guy.

fyp. just felt like your original post didn't quite capture the mood appropriately.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: VDB on August 16, 2017, 11:06:35 AM
His insatiable desire to be lauded consistently drives him into the arms of the most uncritical, fringe elements of his support base. I think he's going to discover the limits of how far that base can propel him.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on August 16, 2017, 12:15:48 PM
You mean, like, beyond President?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: VDB on August 16, 2017, 12:30:02 PM
Beyond one term, for example. Beyond sputtering around in chaos, bereft of policy achievements.

He needed more than just white nationalists to get elected. This is blasphemous in some circles, but I maintain that not every person who pulled the lever for Trump was motivated by pure, vile racism. So, the more that he alienates people occupying anything close to the middle, the more isolated and hopeless his presidency will become.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on August 16, 2017, 02:44:05 PM
Quote from: VDB on August 16, 2017, 12:30:02 PM
Beyond one term, for example. Beyond sputtering around in chaos, bereft of policy achievements.

He needed more than just white nationalists to get elected. This is blasphemous in some circles, but I maintain that not every person who pulled the lever for Trump was motivated by pure, vile racism. So, the more that he alienates people occupying anything close to the middle, the more isolated and hopeless his presidency will become.

Of course not everyone who voted for him was motivated by pure, vile racism....but knowing that was his character was not enough not to vote for him either. I don't give a fuck if you liked his ideas on immigration, health care policy, or whatever "motivated" someone to pull the lever for him, but it required swallowing the idea that yeah, he has racist views, and yeah I'm aligning with others that have racist views and putting myself in the same camp as racist groups, buuuuuuut I can overlook that. Yeah....ha ha ha ha...the absurdity of this conversation even in 2017 is ludicrous.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on August 18, 2017, 01:40:47 PM
And Bannon is out.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mehead on August 18, 2017, 02:49:59 PM
(http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dumpsterfire.png)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sunrisevt on August 18, 2017, 07:13:06 PM
Honestly, I think the "dumpster fire" metaphor is inappropriate. Dumpster fires shed light and heat, and dispose of garbage. The Trump presidency does none of those.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on August 18, 2017, 07:40:56 PM
Quote from: sunrisevt on August 18, 2017, 07:13:06 PM
Honestly, I think the "dumpster fire" metaphor is inappropriate. Dumpster fires shed light and heat, and dispose of garbage. The Trump presidency does none of those.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard

:clap:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on August 18, 2017, 07:52:59 PM
 :clap:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on August 18, 2017, 09:08:32 PM
I did nazi that comimg.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: PIE-GUY on August 19, 2017, 12:00:57 AM
Quote from: mbw on August 18, 2017, 09:08:32 PM
I did nazi that comimg.

:clap:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 19, 2017, 12:15:35 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on August 19, 2017, 12:00:57 AM
Quote from: mbw on August 18, 2017, 09:08:32 PM
I did nazi that comimg.

:clap:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on August 22, 2017, 02:37:01 PM
QuoteFrom 2011:


When will we stop wasting our money on rebuilding Afghanistan? We must rebuild our country first.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 7, 2011 


From 2012:


It is time to get out of Afghanistan. We are building roads and schools for people that hate us. It is not in our national interests.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 27, 2012 


84% of US troops wounded & 70% of our brave men & women killed in Afghanistan have all come under Obama. Time to get out of there.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 11, 2012 


From 2013:


We have wasted an enormous amount of blood and treasure in Afghanistan. Their government has zero appreciation. Let's get out!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 21, 2013 


I agree with Pres. Obama on Afghanistan. We should have a speedy withdrawal. Why should we keep wasting our money -- rebuild the U.S.!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 14, 2013 


Do not allow our very stupid leaders to sign a deal that keeps us in Afghanistan through 2024-with all costs by U.S.A. MAKE AMERICA GREAT!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 21, 2013

What a joke
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on August 22, 2017, 02:53:50 PM
They sat him down and had the talk.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Hicks on August 22, 2017, 03:01:22 PM
Heroin is a helluva drug. 
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: kellerb on August 22, 2017, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 22, 2017, 02:53:50 PM
They sat him down and had the talk.

The "We have always been at War with Eastasia" talk?

They definitely haven't taken him to Area 51 and given him the "Aliens are real, look, here are some bodies" talk.
He would have tweeted everyone by now.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: PIE-GUY on August 22, 2017, 03:49:41 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 22, 2017, 02:53:50 PM
They sat him down and had the talk.

The thing is, he's adding 4,000 troops. A drop in the bucket. The "address to the nation" was just staged to make him look presidential. He is not fundamentally changing the Obama-era strategy at all.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on August 22, 2017, 04:12:04 PM
I hate to sound like I'm agreeing with him on something but,
even though I'm against escalation of almost any conflict, including this one, I never felt comfortable with the public timetables for troop withdrawal when there is no signed agreement / armistice.

of course, one of his motives, for everything he does, is to put down Obama

what shouldn't be lost in the noise is the continued anti - science, anti-environment (and therefore anti-human health) moves by these assholes
QuoteInterior Dept. halts study into Appalachian mining technique's likely health hazards

CNN)The Trump administration has halted a study of the health effects of a common mining technique in Appalachia, which is believed to deposit waste containing toxic minerals in ground waters.

A letter from the Interior Department directed the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine to "cease all work" on a study of the potential health risks of mountaintop removal mining for people living near surface coal mine sites in central Appalachia. The Interior Department acknowledged in a statement that it had "put on hold" $1 million in funding for the two-year project as part of a review of its grants, which is focused on "responsibly using taxpayer dollars."
"The Trump Administration is dedicated to responsibly using taxpayer dollars and that includes the billions of dollars in grants that are doled out every year by the Department of the Interior," the statement said.
Still, the National Academies -- a nongovernmental institution that researches and advises the government on science and technology -- plans to move forward with part of the research, and will hold previously scheduled public meetings this week in Kentucky, the Academies said in a statement.
Political reaction was swift to the Trump administration's decision to suspend the study of "the potential relationship between increased health risks and living in proximity to sites that have been or are being mined or reclaimed for surface coal deposits," which began last year and was expected to take two years to complete.
The battle over science in the Trump administration
The battle over science in the Trump administration
"Mountaintop removal mining has been shown to cause lung cancer, heart disease, and other medical problems," Democratic Rep. Raul Grijalva of Arizona, the ranking democrat on the House Committee of Natural Resources, said in a statement.
"Clearly this administration and the Republican Party are trying to stop the National Academy of Sciences from uncovering exactly how harmful this practice is," Grijalva said.
"It's infuriating that Trump would halt this study on the health effects of mountaintop removal coal mining, research that people in Appalachia have been demanding for years," said Bill Price, Senior Appalachia Organizing Representative for environmental advocacy group Sierra Club's Beyond Coal campaign.
A growing controversy
Scientists estimate that mountaintop removal mining, a form of surface mining, has occurred on at least 500 Appalachian mountaintops. It became popular in the late 1960s as a way of harvesting coal deposits too thin to work from a coal mine.
In this form of mining, the land is first cleared of forests and vegetation, then explosives are used to break up the first layer of rock into smaller pieces known as "spoil."
A 2010 Government Accountability Office report, apparently the most recent available on the subject, showed that in 2008, West Virginia produced 69 million tons of coal from surface mining. Kentucky produced 51 million tons, while Virginia and Tennessee followed with 9 million and 2 million, respectively.
That soil and rock mixture is supposed to be returned to the land after mining is complete, but often is placed as fill in nearby valleys, which can also block headwaters of streams. In addition, when the mined coal is cleaned, a "slurry" of toxic hard metals such as lead, arsenic, manganese, sodium, and sulfate is produced that makes its way into local streams and ground wells. It's that toxic mixture that is believed to be linked to various health problems in the local Appalachian communities.
One study linked mountaintop mining to increased lung and kidney disease rates, as well as elevated death rates in surrounding communities. Another found an increase in birth defects.
"Stopping this study is a ploy to stop science in its tracks and keep the public in the dark about health risks as a favor to the mining industry, pure and simple," Grijalva said. "Every time some reckless industry hurts working people, this administration is there to provide political cover."
The National Academies statement said that the group's hope is that the Trump administration will resume the study.
"The National Academies believes this is an important study and we stand ready to resume it as soon as the Department of the Interior review is completed," the statement said. "We are grateful to our committee members for their dedication to carrying forward with this study."
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on August 22, 2017, 04:27:37 PM
Quote from: kellerb on August 22, 2017, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 22, 2017, 02:53:50 PM
They sat him down and had the talk.

The "We have always been at War with Eastasia" talk?

something like that....
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on August 22, 2017, 04:33:13 PM
It's goddamn wack-a-mole. 2 weeks ago, we're playing nuclera chicken with North Korea, last week, we're boiling over racial tensions and his overt racism, this week, Afghanistan. It's all distractions, meanwhile, underneath it all, they're slowly chipping away at things, as slslbs points out, that we won't see the consequences of for years, and also won't in the moment, flip out about. It's a fucking disaster.

'Murica!
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ph92 on August 22, 2017, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 22, 2017, 03:01:22 PM
Heroin is a helluva drug. 
True. But we're not at war with China and India, but their fentnyl is everywhere.

What happened to good ol' locally sourced meth? Only sourced from the finest ingredients found in the states, keeping our citizens employed and productive (on nothing in particular).
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Hicks on August 22, 2017, 05:58:04 PM
Quote from: ph92 on August 22, 2017, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 22, 2017, 03:01:22 PM
Heroin is a helluva drug. 
True. But we're not at war with China and India, but their fentnyl is everywhere.

Because we don't need to be, those countries rely on friendly trade relations with the US for their economic viability.

The Taliban was a bit less hospitable to not only the US, but also to opium and heroin production. 
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 23, 2017, 09:21:25 AM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on August 22, 2017, 03:49:41 PM
The thing is, he's adding 4,000 troops. A drop in the bucket.

Well that's a 50% increase from current levels. Hardly a drop in the bucket.

Quote from: PIE-GUY on August 22, 2017, 03:49:41 PM
He is not fundamentally changing the Obama-era strategy at all.

And that's a good thing?!?

Quote from: gah on August 22, 2017, 04:33:13 PM
nuclera chicken

Nuclera Chicken was the name of my prog band in high school.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: VDB on August 23, 2017, 10:16:34 AM
"We've ended the war on beautiful, clean coal."
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on August 23, 2017, 12:44:30 PM
yesterdays rally = chugging along of the shit show train

choo choo...
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ph92 on August 23, 2017, 01:40:44 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 22, 2017, 05:58:04 PM
Quote from: ph92 on August 22, 2017, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 22, 2017, 03:01:22 PM
Heroin is a helluva drug. 
True. But we're not at war with China and India, but their fentnyl is everywhere.

Because we don't need to be, those countries rely on friendly trade relations with the US for their economic viability.

The Taliban was a bit less hospitable to not only the US, but also to opium and heroin production. 
I'm not well versed but my understanding is that they were using the opium trade to raise money?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Hicks on August 23, 2017, 06:07:22 PM
Quote from: ph92 on August 23, 2017, 01:40:44 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 22, 2017, 05:58:04 PM
Quote from: ph92 on August 22, 2017, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 22, 2017, 03:01:22 PM
Heroin is a helluva drug. 
True. But we're not at war with China and India, but their fentnyl is everywhere.

Because we don't need to be, those countries rely on friendly trade relations with the US for their economic viability.

The Taliban was a bit less hospitable to not only the US, but also to opium and heroin production. 
I'm not well versed but my understanding is that they were using the opium trade to raise money?

The Taliban shut down all opium cultivation, as well as they could at least, because it's forbidden by Islamic law.

I'm sure you already know, but the big driver of the heroin epidemic is the feds cracking down on oxycontin. However, Afghanistan opening shop back up is definitely another piece of the puzzle. And since we are at "war" with them the CIA is once again right in the middle of all the action. 
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ph92 on August 23, 2017, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 23, 2017, 06:07:22 PM
Quote from: ph92 on August 23, 2017, 01:40:44 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 22, 2017, 05:58:04 PM
Quote from: ph92 on August 22, 2017, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 22, 2017, 03:01:22 PM
Heroin is a helluva drug. 
True. But we're not at war with China and India, but their fentnyl is everywhere.

Because we don't need to be, those countries rely on friendly trade relations with the US for their economic viability.

The Taliban was a bit less hospitable to not only the US, but also to opium and heroin production. 
I'm not well versed but my understanding is that they were using the opium trade to raise money?

The Taliban shut down all opium cultivation, as well as they could at least, because it's forbidden by Islamic law.

I'm sure you already know, but the big driver of the heroin epidemic is the feds cracking down on oxycontin. However, Afghanistan opening shop back up is definitely another piece of the puzzle. And since we are at "war" with them the CIA is once again right in the middle of all the action. 
That I did not know.. here I thought through all this propaganda that they were selling it to find themselves and weaken people in the states.

But yeah i am very familiar of that crackdown and the subsequent turn to dope.  I guess that kind of stuff will always be a problem. Now everyone is just turning to synthetic opiates cause, just like dope, they're cheaper and stronger. But I guess with all our trade with China and India, I don't see that shit slowing down anytime soon
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Hicks on August 23, 2017, 08:49:30 PM
Quote from: ph92 on August 23, 2017, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 23, 2017, 06:07:22 PM
Quote from: ph92 on August 23, 2017, 01:40:44 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 22, 2017, 05:58:04 PM
Quote from: ph92 on August 22, 2017, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 22, 2017, 03:01:22 PM
Heroin is a helluva drug. 
True. But we're not at war with China and India, but their fentnyl is everywhere.

Because we don't need to be, those countries rely on friendly trade relations with the US for their economic viability.

The Taliban was a bit less hospitable to not only the US, but also to opium and heroin production. 
I'm not well versed but my understanding is that they were using the opium trade to raise money?

The Taliban shut down all opium cultivation, as well as they could at least, because it's forbidden by Islamic law.

I'm sure you already know, but the big driver of the heroin epidemic is the feds cracking down on oxycontin. However, Afghanistan opening shop back up is definitely another piece of the puzzle. And since we are at "war" with them the CIA is once again right in the middle of all the action. 
That I did not know.. here I thought through all this propaganda that they were selling it to find themselves and weaken people in the states.

But yeah i am very familiar of that crackdown and the subsequent turn to dope.  I guess that kind of stuff will always be a problem. Now everyone is just turning to synthetic opiates cause, just like dope, they're cheaper and stronger. But I guess with all our trade with China and India, I don't see that shit slowing down anytime soon

Ain't nobody gonna stop 'merica from 'mericaing. 
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 25, 2017, 09:17:45 PM
This guy.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/25/politics/sheriff-joe-arpaio-donald-trump-pardon/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/25/politics/sheriff-joe-arpaio-donald-trump-pardon/index.html)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on August 25, 2017, 10:41:48 PM
It's like he's actually trying to tear this country apart.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: pcr3 on August 25, 2017, 11:23:13 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 25, 2017, 10:41:48 PM
It's like he's actually trying to tear this country apart.

He has moved past trying at this point.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mattstick on August 26, 2017, 10:35:17 AM

If Trump took an oath to uphold the constitution, how can he - from a legal perspective - pardon someone who is charged with violating the constitution?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: birdman on August 26, 2017, 10:40:03 AM
Quote from: mattstick on August 26, 2017, 10:35:17 AM

If Trump took an oath to uphold the constitution, how can he - from a legal perspective - pardon someone who is charged with violating the constitution?
logic went out the window months ago
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: VDB on August 26, 2017, 11:08:39 AM
The presidential pardon seems to – forgive me – trump everything else.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 25, 2017, 10:41:48 PM
It's like he's actually trying to tear this country apart.

Seriously. Especially after the "he's gonna be just fine" quote last week, I figured (like most others I read) he was gonna let it stand and allow the guy to spend the rest of his miserable days in a country club. But then, out of nowhere, he actually does it. It's like he saw the pushback as a fucking dare. What a goddamned child.

Fuck both those guys, hard.

Quote from: mattstick on August 26, 2017, 10:35:17 AM

If Trump took an oath to uphold the constitution, how can he - from a legal perspective - pardon someone who is charged with violating the constitution?

Executive discretion vis a vis pardons is extremely broad. Good read on it >>>
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/26/us/politics/trump-pardon-joe-arpaio-constitution.html

ETA:  this Phoenix New Times thread has been all over, but here it is if you haven't seen it. A thoroughly disgusting account of an absolutely despicable human being.
https://twitter.com/phoenixnewtimes/status/901263384087334914
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on August 26, 2017, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 25, 2017, 10:41:48 PM
It's like he's actually trying to tear this country apart.

Seriously. Especially after the "he's gonna be just fine" quote last week, I figured (like most others I read) he was gonna let it stand and allow the guy to spend the rest of his miserable days in a country club. But then, out of nowhere, he actually does it.

I fear you still don't get it.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 26, 2017, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 25, 2017, 10:41:48 PM
It's like he's actually trying to tear this country apart.

Seriously. Especially after the "he's gonna be just fine" quote last week, I figured (like most others I read) he was gonna let it stand and allow the guy to spend the rest of his miserable days in a country club. But then, out of nowhere, he actually does it.

I fear you still don't get it.

What's that?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mattstick on August 26, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
I don't know how anyone can function in the US right now. I'm beside myself with frustration over this idiot in charge and I don't even live there.

The worst part is I don't know if he would even lose in 2020.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 26, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
I don't know how anyone can function in the US right now. I'm beside myself with frustration over this idiot in charge and I don't even live there.

The worst part is I don't know if he would even lose in 2020.

He will definitely win again if the Dems run another unlikable neoliberal.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Hicks on August 26, 2017, 08:43:49 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 26, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
I don't know how anyone can function in the US right now. I'm beside myself with frustration over this idiot in charge and I don't even live there.

The worst part is I don't know if he would even lose in 2020.

He will definitely win again if the Dems run another unlikable neoliberal.

Franken needs to report for duty.

Then it should be a slam dunk.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:54:57 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 26, 2017, 08:43:49 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 26, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
I don't know how anyone can function in the US right now. I'm beside myself with frustration over this idiot in charge and I don't even live there.

The worst part is I don't know if he would even lose in 2020.

He will definitely win again if the Dems run another unlikable neoliberal.

Franken needs to report for duty.

Then it should be a slam dunk.

Hell yeah. 

He's good enough, he's smart enough... and, gosh darn it, people like him!
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:54:57 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 26, 2017, 08:43:49 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 26, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
I don't know how anyone can function in the US right now. I'm beside myself with frustration over this idiot in charge and I don't even live there.

The worst part is I don't know if he would even lose in 2020.

He will definitely win again if the Dems run another unlikable neoliberal.

Franken needs to report for duty.

Then it should be a slam dunk.

Hell yeah. 

He's good enough, he's smart enough... and, gosh darn it, people like him!

Dudes, and I mean this with nothing but the utmost love and respect, if you think Franken would win the primary let alone the general, you might - MIGHT - wanna step out of that liberal bubble of yours and have a look around. I don't know if Franken would win the primary let alone the general.

I figured you'd be all over the Kasich-Hickenlooper joint ticket rumors, Dan.

https://www.axios.com/2020-rumblings-gop-dem-combo-potential-emerges-2476905475.html
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mistercharlie on August 26, 2017, 10:26:48 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:54:57 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 26, 2017, 08:43:49 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 26, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
I don't know how anyone can function in the US right now. I'm beside myself with frustration over this idiot in charge and I don't even live there.

The worst part is I don't know if he would even lose in 2020.

He will definitely win again if the Dems run another unlikable neoliberal.

Franken needs to report for duty.

Then it should be a slam dunk.

Hell yeah. 

He's good enough, he's smart enough... and, gosh darn it, people like him!

:clap:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 10:52:11 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:54:57 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 26, 2017, 08:43:49 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 26, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
I don't know how anyone can function in the US right now. I'm beside myself with frustration over this idiot in charge and I don't even live there.

The worst part is I don't know if he would even lose in 2020.

He will definitely win again if the Dems run another unlikable neoliberal.

Franken needs to report for duty.

Then it should be a slam dunk.

Hell yeah. 

He's good enough, he's smart enough... and, gosh darn it, people like him!

Dudes, and I mean this with nothing but the utmost love and respect, if you think Franken would win the primary let alone the general, you might - MIGHT - wanna step out of that liberal bubble of yours and have a look around. I don't know if Franken would win the primary let alone the general.

I figured you'd be all over the Kasich-Hickenlooper joint ticket rumors, Dan.

https://www.axios.com/2020-rumblings-gop-dem-combo-potential-emerges-2476905475.html

Franken is pretty moderate, actually.  He's only slightly left of HRC, though WAY more likable.

So, I'm not sure I follow your argument.  Or are you saying that nobody will take him seriously because he's a funny guy? 
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 11:22:26 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 10:52:11 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:54:57 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 26, 2017, 08:43:49 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 26, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
I don't know how anyone can function in the US right now. I'm beside myself with frustration over this idiot in charge and I don't even live there.

The worst part is I don't know if he would even lose in 2020.

He will definitely win again if the Dems run another unlikable neoliberal.

Franken needs to report for duty.

Then it should be a slam dunk.

Hell yeah. 

He's good enough, he's smart enough... and, gosh darn it, people like him!

Dudes, and I mean this with nothing but the utmost love and respect, if you think Franken would win the primary let alone the general, you might - MIGHT - wanna step out of that liberal bubble of yours and have a look around. I don't know if Franken would win the primary let alone the general.

I figured you'd be all over the Kasich-Hickenlooper joint ticket rumors, Dan.

https://www.axios.com/2020-rumblings-gop-dem-combo-potential-emerges-2476905475.html

Franken is pretty moderate, actually.  He's only slightly left of HRC, though WAY more likable.

So, I'm not sure I follow your argument.  Or are you saying that nobody will take him seriously because he's a funny guy?

Well it was a joke more than an argument. But I'm just having a hard time seeing the path for a junior senator from Minnefuckinsota. I mean, even if he flips WI and MI, he'd still need OH or PA. I don't see him winning PA and you'd know better than me about OH but that seems like a stretch as well.

Obviously still a long way out, but I'm not sure who Ds could put up that's a slam dunk even against this jizzbucket (unless he nukes the shit out of N Korea or some shit). I think a primary challenger unseating him is more likely at this point.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on August 27, 2017, 12:25:59 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 11:22:26 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 10:52:11 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:54:57 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 26, 2017, 08:43:49 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 26, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
I don't know how anyone can function in the US right now. I'm beside myself with frustration over this idiot in charge and I don't even live there.

The worst part is I don't know if he would even lose in 2020.

He will definitely win again if the Dems run another unlikable neoliberal.

Franken needs to report for duty.

Then it should be a slam dunk.

Hell yeah. 

He's good enough, he's smart enough... and, gosh darn it, people like him!

Dudes, and I mean this with nothing but the utmost love and respect, if you think Franken would win the primary let alone the general, you might - MIGHT - wanna step out of that liberal bubble of yours and have a look around. I don't know if Franken would win the primary let alone the general.

I figured you'd be all over the Kasich-Hickenlooper joint ticket rumors, Dan.

https://www.axios.com/2020-rumblings-gop-dem-combo-potential-emerges-2476905475.html

Franken is pretty moderate, actually.  He's only slightly left of HRC, though WAY more likable.

So, I'm not sure I follow your argument.  Or are you saying that nobody will take him seriously because he's a funny guy?

Well it was a joke more than an argument. But I'm just having a hard time seeing the path for a junior senator from Minnefuckinsota. I mean, even if he flips WI and MI, he'd still need OH or PA. I don't see him winning PA and you'd know better than me about OH but that seems like a stretch as well.

Obviously still a long way out, but I'm not sure who Ds could put up that's a slam dunk even against this jizzbucket (unless he nukes the shit out of N Korea or some shit). I think a primary challenger unseating him is more likely at this point.

They definitely do not have any clear superstars at this point, that's for sure.  But I think there are a few who could beat him.  Franken, as already mentioned, has what it takes for the same reasons that Sherrod Brown of OH would be a good pick.  He has tons of credibility on economic issues (guy was against NAFTA back when it first became a thing) and he's able to excite the base while still coming off as the kinda folksy midwesterner that he is.

Tulsi Gabbard is someone who I think could have a real shot, too.  She's young and energetic and a war hero and is new enough to still have outsider appeal.  In a bygone era, her only drawback would be that she's a JR house rep, but in post-trump America any experience is more than enough. 

Any of those three would make great nominees, imo.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Hicks on August 27, 2017, 06:25:36 PM
Hmm junior senator from the midwest with no chance, where have I heard that before . . .
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on August 27, 2017, 07:27:15 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 26, 2017, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 25, 2017, 10:41:48 PM
It's like he's actually trying to tear this country apart.

Seriously. Especially after the "he's gonna be just fine" quote last week, I figured (like most others I read) he was gonna let it stand and allow the guy to spend the rest of his miserable days in a country club. But then, out of nowhere, he actually does it.

I fear you still don't get it.

What's that?

I just feel youve never taken the threat this fucker is seriously.
Like, why would you think he wouldn't pardon this fucking pig?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mattstick on August 28, 2017, 09:39:23 AM
On Bill Maher's show Friday Paul Begala suggested that pardoning that racist Sherriff was also a message to those who colluded in the Russia cover-up that Trump will pardon them.

The only article I could find about people actually doing something about the pardon was on The Atlantic:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/how-will-the-courts-respond-to-the-arpaio-pardon/538137/

QuoteBut increasingly, the question for the court—as for Congress, and for the country—is whether the republic survives not against external threat but against an unprecedented unremitting internal assault. A sense of proportion is necessary in crisis and calm; and even in the midst of shocking official misbehavior, the Arpaio pardon crosses a line. Trump has made it clear that the limits of the law, and the powers of the courts, hold no weight in his decision-making, and indeed will be brushed aside at his convenience.

Will the justices strike back, or shake a feeble fist and warn that they'll really do something one of these days?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on August 28, 2017, 11:08:16 AM
I expect he will pardon all. From the get go he has behaved as if he and his friends were above the law and that he has no respect whatsoever for anyone that disagrees with him, balance of power, or rule of law.

QuoteTrump has made it clear that the limits of the law, and the powers of the courts, hold no weight in his decision-making, and indeed will be brushed aside at his convenience.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on August 28, 2017, 11:48:13 AM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 11:22:26 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 10:52:11 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:54:57 PM
Quote from: Hicks on August 26, 2017, 08:43:49 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 26, 2017, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 26, 2017, 06:52:05 PM
I don't know how anyone can function in the US right now. I'm beside myself with frustration over this idiot in charge and I don't even live there.

The worst part is I don't know if he would even lose in 2020.

He will definitely win again if the Dems run another unlikable neoliberal.

Franken needs to report for duty.

Then it should be a slam dunk.

Hell yeah. 

He's good enough, he's smart enough... and, gosh darn it, people like him!

Dudes, and I mean this with nothing but the utmost love and respect, if you think Franken would win the primary let alone the general, you might - MIGHT - wanna step out of that liberal bubble of yours and have a look around. I don't know if Franken would win the primary let alone the general.

I figured you'd be all over the Kasich-Hickenlooper joint ticket rumors, Dan.

https://www.axios.com/2020-rumblings-gop-dem-combo-potential-emerges-2476905475.html

Franken is pretty moderate, actually.  He's only slightly left of HRC, though WAY more likable.

So, I'm not sure I follow your argument.  Or are you saying that nobody will take him seriously because he's a funny guy?

Well it was a joke more than an argument. But I'm just having a hard time seeing the path for a junior senator from Minnefuckinsota. I mean, even if he flips WI and MI, he'd still need OH or PA. I don't see him winning PA and you'd know better than me about OH but that seems like a stretch as well.

Obviously still a long way out, but I'm not sure who Ds could put up that's a slam dunk even against this jizzbucket (unless he nukes the shit out of N Korea or some shit). I think a primary challenger unseating him is more likely at this point.

Don't be an asshole!   :police:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: rowjimmy on August 28, 2017, 12:30:24 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 27, 2017, 07:27:15 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 26, 2017, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 25, 2017, 10:41:48 PM
It's like he's actually trying to tear this country apart.

Seriously. Especially after the "he's gonna be just fine" quote last week, I figured (like most others I read) he was gonna let it stand and allow the guy to spend the rest of his miserable days in a country club. But then, out of nowhere, he actually does it.

I fear you still don't get it.

What's that?

I just feel youve never taken the threat this fucker is seriously.
Like, why would you think he wouldn't pardon this fucking pig?

Yeah, Jimbo, I think you might be the minority with that interpretation. Pretty much most of us took it to mean exactly what it (apparently) meant.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on August 29, 2017, 07:53:31 AM
I completely agree that this pardon was a trial run, if you will, for anything that could potentially result from the Mueller investigation.

Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 29, 2017, 10:58:52 AM
This is great, kill him with kindness...

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-attacks-mexico-twitter-offers-aid-texas-hurricane-harvey-656045 (http://www.newsweek.com/trump-attacks-mexico-twitter-offers-aid-texas-hurricane-harvey-656045)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 29, 2017, 11:56:57 AM
Quote from: mbw on August 27, 2017, 07:27:15 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 26, 2017, 02:29:58 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 26, 2017, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on August 25, 2017, 10:41:48 PM
It's like he's actually trying to tear this country apart.

Seriously. Especially after the "he's gonna be just fine" quote last week, I figured (like most others I read) he was gonna let it stand and allow the guy to spend the rest of his miserable days in a country club. But then, out of nowhere, he actually does it.

I fear you still don't get it.

What's that?

I just feel youve never taken the threat this fucker is seriously.
Like, why would you think he wouldn't pardon this fucking pig?

It's true, I don't view him as the threat to the foundation of our country that many of you do, mostly because (1) I don't believe the man has a single principled bone in his body and that all of his "positions" come from an all-consuming desire to appease any constituency that will enlarge his massively overinflated ego and (2) I do still have faith (albeit a diminshing faith) in our constitutional republic and the checks and balances defined within. So while his behavior has been undoubtedly alarming and wholly unbecoming of the office, I've mostly found the constant cries of "constitutional crisis" to be no more than ideological virtue signaling.

The pardon is different to me. It shows a level of contempt for the justice system and the Constitution that is so far beyond the boundaries of acceptability that I can't even comprehend that he (or more accurately, his team) would even consider it (to echo that Atlantic quote). So it's not that I didn't think he would do it, it's more that I had hoped that somebody would get through that thick skull of his that, politically, it didn't serve his own self-interest which is the single motivating factor in his narrow-minded brain. But, as usual, his ego won out, which is far more troubling than any of his other, mostly symbolic actions.

I do think this should be a wake up call to both side, however, on the dangers of the unrestrained executive. It is more important than ever, IMO, that Congress and the judiciary hold the President to his constitutionally enumerated powers. Of course, that would require Congress to stop abdicating their responsibilities as well and show some principles. Good fucking luck with that.

YMMV
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: aphineday on August 29, 2017, 03:38:11 PM
Quote from: GBL on August 29, 2017, 07:53:31 AM
I completely agree that this pardon was a trial run, if you will, for anything that could potentially result from the Mueller investigation.
Fucking scary, but also accurate.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mattstick on August 30, 2017, 08:18:30 AM

President Businessman doing his best to make a buck of the crisis by sporting his "$45-sold-on-his-campaign-website-probably-made-in-China-baseball-cap" everywhere he goes in Texas.

Gross.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mehead on August 30, 2017, 09:01:11 AM
Quote from: mattstick on August 30, 2017, 08:18:30 AM

President Businessman doing his best to make a buck of the crisis by sporting his "$45-sold-on-his-campaign-website-probably-made-in-China-baseball-cap" everywhere he goes in Texas.

Gross.

Don't forget about this one....

(http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2017/08/000_RY12M-e1504036742820-635x357.jpg)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: aphineday on August 30, 2017, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: mehead on August 30, 2017, 09:01:11 AM
Quote from: mattstick on August 30, 2017, 08:18:30 AM

President Businessman doing his best to make a buck of the crisis by sporting his "$45-sold-on-his-campaign-website-probably-made-in-China-baseball-cap" everywhere he goes in Texas.

Gross.

Don't forget about this one....

(http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2017/08/000_RY12M-e1504036742820-635x357.jpg)
They misspelled TWAT.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on August 30, 2017, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: aphineday on August 30, 2017, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: mehead on August 30, 2017, 09:01:11 AM
Quote from: mattstick on August 30, 2017, 08:18:30 AM

President Businessman doing his best to make a buck of the crisis by sporting his "$45-sold-on-his-campaign-website-probably-made-in-China-baseball-cap" everywhere he goes in Texas.

Gross.

Don't forget about this one....

(http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2017/08/000_RY12M-e1504036742820-635x357.jpg)
They misspelled TWAT.

(http://i.imgur.com/eNWb9O5.jpg)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: aphineday on August 30, 2017, 11:30:56 AM
Quote from: mbw on August 30, 2017, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: aphineday on August 30, 2017, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: mehead on August 30, 2017, 09:01:11 AM
Quote from: mattstick on August 30, 2017, 08:18:30 AM

President Businessman doing his best to make a buck of the crisis by sporting his "$45-sold-on-his-campaign-website-probably-made-in-China-baseball-cap" everywhere he goes in Texas.

Gross.

Don't forget about this one....

(http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2017/08/000_RY12M-e1504036742820-635x357.jpg)
They misspelled TWAT.

(http://i.imgur.com/eNWb9O5.jpg)
:clap:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on August 30, 2017, 11:49:18 AM
 :shakehead:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: rowjimmy on August 30, 2017, 03:39:32 PM
That's a bit uncalled for.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on August 30, 2017, 04:02:33 PM
Meh.  Fuck her, her husband, and their kids.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: aphineday on August 30, 2017, 04:13:38 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 30, 2017, 04:02:33 PM
Meh.  Fuck her, her husband, and their kids.
With the exception of Baron, I can get on board with this statement. The dumbass goes to a disaster zone in 6 inch heels, trying to set a fashion trend. Yeah, it's a pretty easy "fuck her" for me.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mattstick on August 30, 2017, 04:15:17 PM
I read she only got on the plane in heels, and wore flats when they landed.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: aphineday on August 30, 2017, 04:18:40 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 30, 2017, 04:15:17 PM
I read she only got on the plane in heels, and wore flats when they landed.
I hope that's true. Doesn't stop the elitist fashion show though. Just awful people.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on August 30, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
Who gives a shit what kind of shoes she wears?  Serious question.

Also, I seem to remember people saying mean/racist/sexist things and creating photoshopped memes about the former first lady and people being outraged about it. 

Not going to search here, but, hypocrisy is SUCH a beautiful thing isn't it?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 30, 2017, 04:28:48 PM
Quote from: aphineday on August 30, 2017, 04:18:40 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 30, 2017, 04:15:17 PM
I read she only got on the plane in heels, and wore flats when they landed.
I hope that's true. Doesn't stop the elitist fashion show though. Just awful people.

It is. The only people who saw it as an elitist fashion shows were people who had already decided what an awful person she was. But hey, don't let millions' suffering get in the way of a cheap political point.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/08/29/relax-melania-trump-not-wearing-sky-high-heels-disaster-zone/7RfzqjKDw2k0xI4KMYehuO/story.html

ETA:
Quote from: GBL on August 30, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
Also, I seem to remember people saying mean/racist/sexist things and creating photoshopped memes about the former first lady and people being outraged about it. 

Obama's tan suit
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: aphineday on August 30, 2017, 04:33:46 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 30, 2017, 04:28:48 PM
Quote from: aphineday on August 30, 2017, 04:18:40 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 30, 2017, 04:15:17 PM
I read she only got on the plane in heels, and wore flats when they landed.
I hope that's true. Doesn't stop the elitist fashion show though. Just awful people.

It is. The only people who saw it as an elitist fashion shows were people who had already decided what an awful person she was. But hey, don't let millions' suffering get in the way of a cheap political point.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/08/29/relax-melania-trump-not-wearing-sky-high-heels-disaster-zone/7RfzqjKDw2k0xI4KMYehuO/story.html

ETA:
Quote from: GBL on August 30, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
Also, I seem to remember people saying mean/racist/sexist things and creating photoshopped memes about the former first lady and people being outraged about it. 

Obama's tan suit
He is selling the hat on his fucking website for $40, so yes, it was an elitist fashion show. The fact that you think we are using that to make a cheap political point is not even logical.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on August 30, 2017, 04:35:18 PM
Quote from: aphineday on August 30, 2017, 04:33:46 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 30, 2017, 04:28:48 PM
Quote from: aphineday on August 30, 2017, 04:18:40 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 30, 2017, 04:15:17 PM
I read she only got on the plane in heels, and wore flats when they landed.
I hope that's true. Doesn't stop the elitist fashion show though. Just awful people.

It is. The only people who saw it as an elitist fashion shows were people who had already decided what an awful person she was. But hey, don't let millions' suffering get in the way of a cheap political point.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/08/29/relax-melania-trump-not-wearing-sky-high-heels-disaster-zone/7RfzqjKDw2k0xI4KMYehuO/story.html

ETA:
Quote from: GBL on August 30, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
Also, I seem to remember people saying mean/racist/sexist things and creating photoshopped memes about the former first lady and people being outraged about it. 

Obama's tan suit
He is selling the hat on his fucking website for $40, so yes, it was an elitist fashion show. The fact that you think we are using that to make a cheap political point is not even logical.

And here I thought we were talking about FLOTUS's choice of footwear..
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on August 30, 2017, 05:06:57 PM
Quote from: GBL on August 30, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
Who gives a shit what kind of shoes she wears?  Serious question.

Also, I seem to remember people saying mean/racist/sexist things and creating photoshopped memes about the former first lady and people being outraged about it. 

Not going to search here, but, hypocrisy is SUCH a beautiful thing isn't it?

Go fucking cry somewhere else.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 30, 2017, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 30, 2017, 05:06:57 PM
Quote from: GBL on August 30, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
Who gives a shit what kind of shoes she wears?  Serious question.

Also, I seem to remember people saying mean/racist/sexist things and creating photoshopped memes about the former first lady and people being outraged about it. 

Not going to search here, but, hypocrisy is SUCH a beautiful thing isn't it?

Go fucking cry somewhere else.

Sound reasoning there
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on August 30, 2017, 07:57:49 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on August 30, 2017, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: mbw on August 30, 2017, 05:06:57 PM
Quote from: GBL on August 30, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
Who gives a shit what kind of shoes she wears?  Serious question.

Also, I seem to remember people saying mean/racist/sexist things and creating photoshopped memes about the former first lady and people being outraged about it. 

Not going to search here, but, hypocrisy is SUCH a beautiful thing isn't it?

Go fucking cry somewhere else.

Sound reasoning there

(http://i.imgur.com/7MpqGX1.jpg)

+

(http://i.imgur.com/98wCewm.jpg)

+

(http://i.imgur.com/o0pPVhO.jpg)

=

(http://i.imgur.com/eNWb9O5.jpg)

Hows that reasoning?
Might not be nice, but it's true.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: PIE-GUY on August 31, 2017, 12:05:21 AM
When the president cares more about imagery (crowd size, beautiful women, gold decor, etc.) than he does literally anything else, then I feel it is fair to attack the imagery. Comparing that to the racist attacks on Michelle is truly a false equivalence.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: natronzero on August 31, 2017, 02:41:25 AM
Goddamn right. Well said.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 31, 2017, 07:57:10 AM
Quote from: natronzero on August 31, 2017, 02:41:25 AM
Goddamn right. Well said.


Although I don't see the point in attacking the first lady in either sitch.
Pretty sure this isn't the life she would have chose.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mehead on August 31, 2017, 08:31:35 AM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on August 31, 2017, 07:57:10 AM
Quote from: natronzero on August 31, 2017, 02:41:25 AM
Goddamn right. Well said.


Although I don't see the point in attacking the first lady in either sitch.
Pretty sure this isn't the life she would have chose.

I would normally agree but in this specific case, a FLOTUS hat. Really? A freaking FLOTUS hat?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: kellerb on August 31, 2017, 09:06:36 AM
Quote from: mehead on August 31, 2017, 08:31:35 AM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on August 31, 2017, 07:57:10 AM
Quote from: natronzero on August 31, 2017, 02:41:25 AM
Goddamn right. Well said.


Although I don't see the point in attacking the first lady in either sitch.
Pretty sure this isn't the life she would have chose.

I would normally agree but in this specific case, a FLOTUS hat. Really? A freaking FLOTUS hat?

We all FLOTUS down here 
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on August 31, 2017, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on August 31, 2017, 07:57:10 AM
Quote from: natronzero on August 31, 2017, 02:41:25 AM
Goddamn right. Well said.


Although I don't see the point in attacking the first lady in either sitch.

Exactly

Quote from: mehead on August 31, 2017, 08:31:35 AM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on August 31, 2017, 07:57:10 AM
Quote from: natronzero on August 31, 2017, 02:41:25 AM
Goddamn right. Well said.


Although I don't see the point in attacking the first lady in either sitch.
Pretty sure this isn't the life she would have chose.

I would normally agree but in this specific case, a FLOTUS hat. Really? A freaking FLOTUS hat?

I get it, and in no way, shape or form am I agreeing with anything related to DT or his "policies".

However, slut shaming any women is lame as fuck, and coming from someone who I like and respect and who I view as a progressive thinker, like myself, is hypocritical, and well, lame as fuck.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on August 31, 2017, 09:31:28 AM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on August 31, 2017, 12:05:21 AM
When the president cares more about imagery (crowd size, beautiful women, gold decor, etc.) than he does literally anything else, then I feel it is fair to attack the imagery. Comparing that to the racist attacks on Michelle is truly a false equivalence.

No false equivalency here. 

So DT sucks (WHICH IS BEYOND OBVIOUS AND AN UNDERSTATEMENT), then its ok to slut shame his wife?  I don't think so.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on August 31, 2017, 09:32:39 AM
Also, I love you guys and I feel completely comfortable fucking crying right here thank you very much.

:angel:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: aphineday on August 31, 2017, 09:37:34 AM
I mean, I would usually agree that the wives and children are out of bounds, and with Baron, I still feel that way. That said, when the now First Lady STEALS a speech from Michelle Obama, and then becomes an equal participant in this bullshit with her husband, I have a hard time leaving her out of it.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on August 31, 2017, 09:40:17 AM
I get that, but again, I think you're missing the point.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 31, 2017, 09:50:12 AM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on August 31, 2017, 12:05:21 AM
When the president cares more about imagery (crowd size, beautiful women, gold decor, etc.) than he does literally anything else, then I feel it is fair to attack the imagery. Comparing that to the racist attacks on Michelle is truly a false equivalence.

And he is rightly ridiculed for that obsession. But I still don't get how that justifies similar superficial behavior to attack him.

Member that whole "when they go low, we go high" thing? I member.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on August 31, 2017, 09:57:41 AM
Fuck Baron too.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mehead on August 31, 2017, 10:28:34 AM
Quote from: kellerb on August 31, 2017, 09:06:36 AM
Quote from: mehead on August 31, 2017, 08:31:35 AM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on August 31, 2017, 07:57:10 AM
Quote from: natronzero on August 31, 2017, 02:41:25 AM
Goddamn right. Well said.


Although I don't see the point in attacking the first lady in either sitch.
Pretty sure this isn't the life she would have chose.

I would normally agree but in this specific case, a FLOTUS hat. Really? A freaking FLOTUS hat?

We all FLOTUS down here

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on September 02, 2017, 11:35:46 PM
Are we done defending Eva Braun?  Good.

Another casualty. 
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/348915-longtime-trump-aide-keith-schiller-plans-to-leave-white-house-report
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on September 05, 2017, 10:45:21 AM
Quote from: mbw on September 02, 2017, 11:35:46 PM
Are we done defending Eva Braun?  Good.

Another casualty. 
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/348915-longtime-trump-aide-keith-schiller-plans-to-leave-white-house-report

Read that elsewhere as well. Stated that Trump losing Schiller will further destabilize the WH, the fact that that is even possible is laughable.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 03, 2017, 02:11:55 PM
How dare they?!?!


https://youtu.be/XvxkLcWeetc (https://youtu.be/XvxkLcWeetc)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: kellerb on October 03, 2017, 02:20:58 PM
This cunt is the president and Tom Petty is dead.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: VDB on October 03, 2017, 02:58:55 PM
"My hurricane death ratings are terrific. I have the best death counts. People tell me, President Trump, your hurricanes kill the least people."

Heckuva job, Orangie.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on October 03, 2017, 04:17:28 PM
he's a piece of shit.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: birdman on October 03, 2017, 04:29:38 PM
Quote from: gah on October 03, 2017, 04:17:28 PM
he's a piece of shit.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mistercharlie on October 03, 2017, 05:14:01 PM
Quote from: kellerb on October 03, 2017, 02:20:58 PM
This cunt is the president and Tom Petty is dead.
The fuck has the world come to?  :shakehead:
Quote from: birdman on October 03, 2017, 04:29:38 PM
Quote from: gah on October 03, 2017, 04:17:28 PM
he's a piece of shit.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: emay on October 03, 2017, 07:17:30 PM
That video of him throwing the paper towlels  :shakehead: ugh.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on October 03, 2017, 07:18:08 PM
Quote from: emay on October 03, 2017, 07:17:30 PM
That video of him throwing the paper towlels  :shakehead: ugh.

Just saw that.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: WhatstheUse? on October 03, 2017, 07:58:00 PM
This shit is beyond ridiculous at this point
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on October 04, 2017, 09:18:16 AM
Quote from: mbw on October 03, 2017, 07:18:08 PM
Quote from: emay on October 03, 2017, 07:17:30 PM
That video of him throwing the paper towlels  :shakehead: ugh.

Just saw that.

wait, was that not cool? my bad.  :shakehead: :shakehead: :shakehead:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mehead on October 04, 2017, 09:41:46 AM
Quote from: emay on October 03, 2017, 07:17:30 PM
That video of him throwing the paper towlels  :shakehead: ugh.

dude can drain them from long range

:roll:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mattstick on October 05, 2017, 10:04:59 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-tale-of-two-puerto-ricos-what-trump-saw--and-what-he-didnt/2017/10/04/2eeee62e-a8b9-11e7-850e-2bdd1236be5d_story.html

QuoteThe church is also distributing water purification kits, and a member explained the process to the president.

"Wait," Trump said, "you put it in dirty water?"

"And then you can drink it after 10 to 12 hours," she explained.

"Would you do it? Would you drink it?" he asked.

"Sure," she said.

"Really?" Trump said, a disgusted look coming across his face.

"Really," she said.

"Is this your company or something?" Trump asked the woman, seeming suspicious of the aggressive pitch.

"No," she said, "I'm part of the church."
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on October 05, 2017, 11:41:02 AM
^^^ The video clip of that is painfully funny. This fucking douche bag is so out of touch with reality, it would be amusing if it wasn't so pathetic. His ignorance is impacting real peoples lives. Fuck him and all the dumb numb nuts that put him in office.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on October 31, 2017, 12:20:23 PM
So the Mueller probe's first indictments and plea bargain announced yesterday...start of the end for Trump or still not enough?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on October 31, 2017, 01:18:44 PM
on one hand, I hate the bastard and want to see him taken down. I think he is truly a bad person who is bad for the country and the world.

on the other, Pence will be able to get more stuff done in congress cause he knows the system. that won't be a good thing. But - I don't think he will have the overall negativeness that Trump has

ugggh
the lesser of 2 evils is still evil
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mattstick on October 31, 2017, 01:36:33 PM
Pence and Ryan go down too. Hatch is the lamest duck Prez ever.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 31, 2017, 02:29:24 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 31, 2017, 01:36:33 PM
Pence and Ryan go down too. Hatch is the lamest duck Prez ever.

Manafort is the reason Pence got there in the first place, he's gotta go down too I'm thinking.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on October 31, 2017, 05:44:13 PM
Quote from: slslbs on October 31, 2017, 01:18:44 PM
on one hand, I hate the bastard and want to see him taken down. I think he is truly a bad person who is bad for the country and the world.

on the other, Pence will be able to get more stuff done in congress cause he knows the system. that won't be a good thing. But - I don't think he will have the overall negativeness that Trump has

ugggh
the lesser of 2 evils is still evil

I've pondered the same thing recently.  Which is worse, the potential for catastrophic danger under Trump or the certainty of legislative damage under Pence?  I guess the responsible answer is Trump, though 3.5 years of Pence will sting. 
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on November 02, 2017, 08:45:46 AM
Both the killings Vega and NYC were horrible and my heart goes out to all of the victims.

Why isn't the guy in Vegas considered a terrorist? Is firing automatic weapons into a crowd not terrorism?

Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sunrisevt on November 02, 2017, 11:50:15 AM
Quote from: ytowndan on October 31, 2017, 05:44:13 PM
Quote from: slslbs on October 31, 2017, 01:18:44 PM
on one hand, I hate the bastard and want to see him taken down. I think he is truly a bad person who is bad for the country and the world.

on the other, Pence will be able to get more stuff done in congress cause he knows the system. that won't be a good thing. But - I don't think he will have the overall negativeness that Trump has

ugggh
the lesser of 2 evils is still evil

I've pondered the same thing recently.  Which is worse, the potential for catastrophic danger under Trump or the certainty of legislative damage under Pence?  I guess the responsible answer is Trump, though 3.5 years of Pence will sting.

My gut tells me that if Trump goes down, Pence goes down with him.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 02, 2017, 11:58:23 AM
Quote from: sunrisevt on November 02, 2017, 11:50:15 AM
Quote from: ytowndan on October 31, 2017, 05:44:13 PM
Quote from: slslbs on October 31, 2017, 01:18:44 PM
on one hand, I hate the bastard and want to see him taken down. I think he is truly a bad person who is bad for the country and the world.

on the other, Pence will be able to get more stuff done in congress cause he knows the system. that won't be a good thing. But - I don't think he will have the overall negativeness that Trump has

ugggh
the lesser of 2 evils is still evil

I've pondered the same thing recently.  Which is worse, the potential for catastrophic danger under Trump or the certainty of legislative damage under Pence?  I guess the responsible answer is Trump, though 3.5 years of Pence will sting.

My gut tells me that if Trump goes down, Pence goes down with him.

While I think you may be right, I hate it. This type of constitutional crisis is never good. I'm not ok with the policy stuff that could happen with Pence, but I'm even less ok with testing the order of succession rules we have in place. It puts our country in a very precarious position on the world stage.

Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on November 02, 2017, 12:06:24 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on November 02, 2017, 11:58:23 AM
Quote from: sunrisevt on November 02, 2017, 11:50:15 AM
Quote from: ytowndan on October 31, 2017, 05:44:13 PM
Quote from: slslbs on October 31, 2017, 01:18:44 PM
on one hand, I hate the bastard and want to see him taken down. I think he is truly a bad person who is bad for the country and the world.

on the other, Pence will be able to get more stuff done in congress cause he knows the system. that won't be a good thing. But - I don't think he will have the overall negativeness that Trump has

ugggh
the lesser of 2 evils is still evil

I've pondered the same thing recently.  Which is worse, the potential for catastrophic danger under Trump or the certainty of legislative damage under Pence?  I guess the responsible answer is Trump, though 3.5 years of Pence will sting.

My gut tells me that if Trump goes down, Pence goes down with him.

While I think you may be right, I hate it. This type of constitutional crisis is never good. I'm not ok with the policy stuff that could happen with Pence, but I'm even less ok with testing the order of succession rules we have in place. It puts our country in a very precarious position on the world stage.

we already are in a precarious position
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sunrisevt on November 02, 2017, 12:23:42 PM
Yeah, it took Nixon's administration a few years to implode--long enough for them to secure him a second term, which provided the party leadership the opportunity to place a viable successor, in the form of Gerald Ford. Agnew was taking bribes in his office.

As I understand it, that's also kind of how Harry Truman would up VPOTUS for FDR's fourth term: the other VP was unacceptable to the party leadership as a successor (forgot his name & the DNC's reasons), and they were pretty sure FDR wouldn't survive the full four years (medically, not politically as in Nixon's case). So in the 1944 campaign they ditched the other guy in favor of Truman.

Trump's rush to the bottom is outpacing all the traditional means of control.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Hicks on November 02, 2017, 12:24:07 PM
I'm just looking forward to President Ryan. 

::vomits blood::
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on November 02, 2017, 05:31:40 PM
Unfortunately I think you guys are dreaming.
Trump has prevailed agaisnt all odds and I dont see that stopping.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: rowjimmy on November 02, 2017, 08:37:32 PM
If they were to try to remove Trump, the streets will be filled with rioting Russian bots.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 02, 2017, 10:02:53 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on November 02, 2017, 08:37:32 PM
If they were to try to remove Trump, the streets will be filled with rioting Russian bots.

Don't forget these guys.

(http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/politifact/photos/Torches_Charlottesville.jpg)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 06, 2017, 09:46:10 PM
I have to say, I really hope this happens.

Quote"Hopefully Trump visiting Korea will give him greater appreciation of what's at stake in Korea in a human and war fighting sense if things go awry," said Jackson of Victoria University.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: pcr3 on November 06, 2017, 11:00:49 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on November 06, 2017, 09:46:10 PM
I have to say, I really hope this happens.

Quote"Hopefully Trump visiting Korea will give him greater appreciation of what's at stake in Korea in a human and war fighting sense if things go awry," said Jackson of Victoria University.

You still have hope? Congrats.

I went on a 15 minute rant last night and my wife basically walked out of the room and told me she couldn't handle it any more. Not sure if it was the political reality or my lack of hope...
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on November 07, 2017, 12:05:53 AM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on November 06, 2017, 09:46:10 PM
I have to say, I really hope this happens.

Quote"Hopefully Trump visiting Korea will give him greater appreciation of what's at stake in Korea in a human and war fighting sense if things go awry," said Jackson of Victoria University.

C'mon, pay attention.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on November 29, 2017, 04:36:23 PM
this fucking guy is cracking up.  now the pussy grabbing tape is fake and obama is a kenyan again.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on November 29, 2017, 04:38:05 PM
On an unrelated note, how could Ted Cruz be president when that asshole was born in Canada?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on November 29, 2017, 05:02:39 PM
Quote from: mbw on November 29, 2017, 04:36:23 PM
this fucking guy is cracking up.  now the pussy grabbing tape is fake and obama is a kenyan again.

Birtherism is back? 
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on November 29, 2017, 06:15:20 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on November 29, 2017, 05:02:39 PM
Quote from: mbw on November 29, 2017, 04:36:23 PM
this fucking guy is cracking up.  now the pussy grabbing tape is fake and obama is a kenyan again.

Birtherism is back?

According to an unnamed senator, he has been bringing that up.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on November 29, 2017, 06:49:16 PM
fucking asshole

not to mention that he is doing what he can to destroy the credibility of the free press.

fucking asshole
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on November 30, 2017, 11:15:05 AM
Tillerson, out.  Gimpy Tom Cotton to head the CIA.   :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 30, 2017, 11:34:45 AM
This guy.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/30/theresamay-trump-twitter-tirade (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/30/theresamay-trump-twitter-tirade)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on January 12, 2018, 09:47:23 AM
Is it ok to call the president a racist yet? because seriously.....fuck that racist piece of shit.

That is all.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: rowjimmy on January 12, 2018, 10:09:43 AM
Quote from: gah on January 12, 2018, 09:47:23 AM
Is it ok to call the president a racist yet? because seriously.....fuck that racist piece of shit.

That is all.

I think it's been pretty clear for some time.

Check out Durbin's remarks this morning about yesterday's meeting (which he attended):
https://twitter.com/axios/status/951827613944897536
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on January 12, 2018, 10:22:42 AM
the silence from the GOP leadership is deafening
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on January 12, 2018, 10:31:27 AM
Dude made it crystal clear that he's a racist during his first speech as a candidate, when he made his creepy decent down that escalator to let us know that Mexicans are rapists.  But this is a serious incident.  It will at least make his top five.  It's up there with his "both sides" dogwhistling on the white supremacy march.

Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: rowjimmy on January 12, 2018, 10:41:02 AM
QuoteTrump took a "victory lap" last night after "shithole" comment, official says
From CNN's Kaitlan Collins

President Trump spent his Thursday night phoning aides, allies and friends, asking them how they thought the "shithole" remark was playing out in the press.

One White House official referred to this as a "victory lap."
Source: http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/12/politics/trump-latest/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/12/politics/trump-latest/index.html)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on January 12, 2018, 11:57:28 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on January 12, 2018, 10:41:02 AM
QuoteTrump took a "victory lap" last night after "shithole" comment, official says
From CNN's Kaitlan Collins

President Trump spent his Thursday night phoning aides, allies and friends, asking them how they thought the "shithole" remark was playing out in the press.

One White House official referred to this as a "victory lap."
Source: http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/12/politics/trump-latest/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/12/politics/trump-latest/index.html)

wow.  :shakehead:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on January 12, 2018, 02:58:09 PM
now he's denying it
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mattstick on January 12, 2018, 03:03:30 PM

You guys have the worst President.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Hicks on January 12, 2018, 03:18:32 PM
Quote from: mattstick on January 12, 2018, 03:03:30 PM

You guys have the worst President.

Hot take!
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on January 12, 2018, 04:48:01 PM
whoops!

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368779-trump-lawyer-arranged-130k-payment-to-adult-film-star-to-stay-quiet
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on January 12, 2018, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: mbw on January 12, 2018, 04:48:01 PM
whoops!

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368779-trump-lawyer-arranged-130k-payment-to-adult-film-star-to-stay-quiet

Awesome  :clap: :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on January 16, 2018, 05:06:40 PM
QuoteWhite House doctor: 'No concerns' about Trump's cognitive ability

So, which would be worse? A president who is insane, or one who is sane and is just totally fucked up?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: antelope19 on January 19, 2018, 01:48:09 AM
Yup...
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on January 19, 2018, 02:45:33 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on January 19, 2018, 01:48:09 AM
Yup...

Don't forget getting spanked with a Forbes mag with pictures of his kids on it.   :clap:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/01/stormy-daniels-once-claimed-she-spanked-donald-trump-with-a-forbes-magazine/
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on January 19, 2018, 03:55:19 PM
Quote from: gah on January 12, 2018, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: mbw on January 12, 2018, 04:48:01 PM
whoops!

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368779-trump-lawyer-arranged-130k-payment-to-adult-film-star-to-stay-quiet

Awesome  :clap: :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

From Colbert:

"How many Donald Trumps does it take to screw in a light bulb? We'll never know, because after he screws something, he gives them $130,000 not to tell anybody."

https://youtu.be/opmDMIg4Lvs
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: PIE-GUY on January 21, 2018, 02:20:30 PM


Ok. This is fucking brilliant writing.

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-trump-aristocrats (https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-trump-aristocrats)

Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on April 10, 2018, 05:13:21 PM
Remember when this was a thing? People leaving the administration and it was something to talk about? Now it happens every day, and it's like meh...
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: PIE-GUY on April 14, 2018, 10:23:57 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/joshtpm/status/985200901815140352/video/1 (https://mobile.twitter.com/joshtpm/status/985200901815140352/video/1)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on April 27, 2018, 02:34:38 PM
Also, epic meltdown on phone "interview"/rant on fox and friends yesterday was epic.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on May 01, 2018, 10:25:33 AM
I'm not sure I get all the controversy over Michelle Wolf's WHC speech. I thought it was a riot.
and she didn't say anything that hasn't been said before
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on May 01, 2018, 10:28:09 AM
Quote from: slslbs on May 01, 2018, 10:25:33 AM
I'm not sure I get all the controversy over Michelle Wolf's WHC speech. I thought it was a riot.
and she didn't say anything that hasn't been said before

right wing hypocrisy at it's finest
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 01, 2018, 10:39:56 AM
I thought she destroyed. I mean, I've watched the whole thing three times and laughed throughout it. Is it awkward when she makes fun of the humorless bitch sitting a few feet away? Sure. But it wasn't particularly offensive.... unless you are inclined to believe everything the White House says... because she definitely called them all liars.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: kellerb on May 01, 2018, 11:48:24 AM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on May 01, 2018, 10:39:56 AM
I thought she destroyed. I mean, I've watched the whole thing three times and laughed throughout it. Is it awkward when she makes fun of the humorless bitch sitting a few feet away? Sure. But it wasn't particularly offensive.... unless you are inclined to believe everything the White House says... because she definitely called them all liars.

They didn't seem to mention that point in their outraged shrieking.  [lip]Glossed over it. 
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mattstick on May 01, 2018, 12:57:32 PM

These Republicans are trash, and the media is complicit in amplifying their bullshit.  If I didn't care about y'all I'd laugh at how fucked and Orwellian things have become.

I honestly don't expect the US government to be functional again in my lifetime.

Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on May 01, 2018, 02:43:12 PM
right, on both counts
QuoteBecause you pretend like you hate him, but I think you love him. I think what no one in this room wants to admit is that Trump has helped all of you. He couldn't sell steaks or vodka or water or college or ties or Eric, but he has helped you. He's helped you sell your papers and your books and your TV. You helped create this monster, and now you're profiting off of him.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mattstick on May 01, 2018, 02:48:40 PM

On the other hand there are going to be real heroes that come out of this.  People that were incorruptible and unassailable.

https://t.co/Vbc62AY68R

Can we just take a step back and stand agape at the forest? We have likely never seen a president in the kind of legal jeopardy as @realDonaldTrump is in the history of our republic. Consider:
* Unlike Nixon, Trump has no credible claim to executive privilege.
* Which means, unlike Nixon, he will almost surely have to answer questions about whether he obstructed justice. A special counsel has been convened and has around 50 *topics* he'd like to cover with the President.
* Most assume that the president is unable to sit for such a deposition without committing additional crimes (perjury)
* The president already kinda sorta admitted to obstructing justice on national TV
* The former FBI director took contemporaneous notes which suggest obstruction
* The special counsel is *ALSO* investigating whether the president and his campaign colluded with a foreign government to influence an American election.
* 19 people have been indicted in connection with that investigation.
* One of those people is the president's former campaign manager
* 5 people have pleaded guilty
* One of those is the campaign manager's longtime deputy.
* The president's personal lawyer is about to be indicted. He's been investigated not by a special counsel, but by the SDNY for campaign fraud and bank fraud.
* The FBI has raided that lawyer's house and office, collecting reams of documents they claim are not privileged.
* The president's personal lawyer is also being challenged, in civil court, for a hush money payment he made to a porn star who claims to have had sex with the president.
* The porn star's lawyer has sued the president directly for defamation in his personal capacity.
* The president has also been sued for defamation by a woman who claims the president sexually assaulted her.
* That suit has already survived a motion to dismiss.
And that's what is ALREADY ON THE BOARD. We're not talking about Emoluments. We're barely talking about things that president has done *since he took office*. These are just the legal actions already in motion against the @realDonaldTrump
* OH, and I forget that the Democratic National Committee sued the Trump campaign UNDER RICO for conspiracy and tresspass.
Nixon was dealing with ONE break-in. Clinton was dealing with a couple of extra-marital affairs. U.S. Grant had some corrupt underlings.

... @realDonaldTrump is in the actual suck. When you step back, you can see that Birnam Wood has Dunsinane COMPLETELY SURROUNDED.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on May 01, 2018, 03:11:05 PM
the two details that the author of that hasn't considered are
-the House has to impeach the President by majority vote. Unless the Dems take over in November, it's just not going to happen. The Dems were in control when Nixon was POTUS and the country wasn't nearly as polarized as it is now. There was no "fake news", etc
-a 2/3 majority in the Senate is required to get him out of office
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on May 01, 2018, 03:54:50 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 01, 2018, 12:57:32 PM

These Republicans are trash, and the media is complicit in amplifying their bullshit.  If I didn't care about y'all I'd laugh at how fucked and Orwellian things have become.

I honestly don't expect the US government to be functional again in my lifetime.

that's a goddamn shame (and true).  :shakehead:
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on May 01, 2018, 05:42:20 PM
The saddest part is none of that matters at all to his supporters.
I don't think the dems have the balls to impeach him even if they win majorities.
This guy is f'in b#lletproof.  Our only hope is that he resigns to save face and realizes he would much rather go back to being a dirty old man/ rich playboy.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: gah on May 01, 2018, 06:09:56 PM
Quote from: mbw on May 01, 2018, 05:42:20 PM
The saddest part is none of that matters at all to his supporters.
I don't think the dems have the balls to impeach him even if they win majorities.
This guy is f'in b#lletproof.  Our only hope is that he resigns to save face and realizes he would much rather go back to being a dirty old man/ rich playboy.

Yeah, I've thought about this, and I don't see this ending cleanly at all, like with a peaceful transfer of power at the end of his time in office. Whether he completes 4 or 8 years or not, it will end in a very loud and messy way.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on May 01, 2018, 06:54:30 PM
8 years?!?!
Bite your tongue.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: ytowndan on May 01, 2018, 07:21:34 PM
Quote from: slslbs on May 01, 2018, 10:25:33 AM
I'm not sure I get all the controversy over Michelle Wolf's WHC speech. I thought it was a riot.
and she didn't say anything that hasn't been said before

Yeah, I just got around to watching it and was expecting some kind of massive thrashing of the press.  I mean, I thought she was really good, but it was pretty tame as far as media criticism goes.  I'm not quite sure why they're upset. 

The right, on the other hand, lives in a state of perpetual apoplexy.  So I'm not exactly surprised that they're throwing a fit.  It's kind of their thing.  Which is odd ... Their party controls all three branches of the federal government and nearly three-quarters of state legislatures.  They own what's left of this broken country, yet they see themselves as oppressed victims who just can't catch a break. 
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: nab on May 01, 2018, 11:59:47 PM
Quote from: ytowndan on May 01, 2018, 07:21:34 PM
Quote from: slslbs on May 01, 2018, 10:25:33 AM
I'm not sure I get all the controversy over Michelle Wolf's WHC speech. I thought it was a riot.
and she didn't say anything that hasn't been said before

Yeah, I just got around to watching it and was expecting some kind of massive thrashing of the press.  I mean, I thought she was really good, but it was pretty tame as far as media criticism goes.  I'm not quite sure why they're upset. 

The right, on the other hand, lives in a state of perpetual apoplexy.  So I'm not exactly surprised that they're throwing a fit.  It's kind of their thing.  Which is odd ... Their party controls all three branches of the federal government and nearly three-quarters of state legislatures.  They own what's left of this broken country, yet they see themselves as oppressed victims who just can't catch a break.

Sad. 

But not unexpected.  The party platform is transparently founded on white victim-hood, or at least the perception of persecution.  If they give up the perception, the jig is up.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on May 02, 2018, 10:33:17 PM
His new crack lawyer, Rudy 9/11 Guliani just went on Hannity and said Trump paid Cohen back the 130k.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/385965-giuliani-trump-reimbursed-cohen-for-payment-to-stormy-daniels
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Guyute on May 05, 2018, 10:57:35 PM
It got better today, can't wait to see Sanders handle this one.
Cohen took out $774,000 in home equity loans.  Per Giulliani Trump has paid back $460,000, not $130k.   Who else needed an agreement.  My guess is they are following the money and that is why they are worried Cohen will flip.

I bet Sanders goes "Lawyers need to make a profit, the rest of that money was his payment for services rendered"
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mattstick on June 06, 2018, 11:18:31 AM

Listning to Speaking In Tongues this morning... how apropos is this line from Making Flippy Floppy for 2018?

I can't believe it
And people are strange
Our president's crazy
Did you hear what he said
Business and pleasure
Lie right to your face
Divide it in sections
And then give it away
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on June 12, 2018, 12:40:11 PM
you can't make this shit up

QuoteD-Day is example of America's 'strong relationship with German government', Trump State Department spokeswoman says
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on June 15, 2018, 01:33:06 PM
QuoteFact checking the President is like pissing into a hurricane

Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on July 24, 2018, 08:52:36 AM
one more scary thing in a long list of scary things.

what is this country becoming?

http://time.com/5346297/donald-trump-security-clearances/?utm_source=time.com&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=the-brief&utm_content=2018072410am&xid=newsletter-brief&eminfo=%7b%22EMAIL%22%3a%22qUAzO%2f99ZkeeOnaS7jbrreGDsB9HwhooBlQBDbnRRLM%3d%22%2c%22BRAND%22%3a%22TD%22%2c%22CONTENT%22%3a%22Newsletter%22%2c%22UID%22%3a%22TD_TBR_EB3F0F66-5846-441C-97F3-5E0D4F385E72%22%2c%22SUBID%22%3a%2224215319%22%2c%22JOBID%22%3a%22833927%22%2c%22NEWSLETTER%22%3a%22THE_BRIEF%22%2c%22ZIP%22%3a%22018102115%22%2c%22COUNTRY%22%3a%22%22%7d

QuotePresident Trump Is Considering Revoking Security Clearances of His Critics

President Donald Trump is considering revoking the security clearances for a half-dozen former high-level intelligence and national security officials who have criticized him, the White House said Monday afternoon.

Speaking at the regular press briefing, White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said that Trump was considering revoking clearances for former FBI Director James Comey, former CIA Director John Brennan and former Director of the National Security Agency Michael Hayden, among others, over their remarks on the Russia investigation.

"The President is exploring the mechanisms because they politicize and in some cases monetize their public service," Sanders said, explaining why Trump is looking at what power he has to revoke the clearance of a former officials.

Speaking to CNN after the press conference, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said that the president has the authority to revoke the clearances, but that doing so because of his statements was "a very, very petty thing to do" and an "abuse of the system."

"It's kind of a sad commentary where for political reasons this is kind of a petty way for retribution for spekaing out against the president, which on the part of all of us are borne out of genuine concerns about President Trump," he said.

Read More: Former Intelligence Chiefs Explain How Trump Sows Distrust to His Advantage

Hayden tweeted that losing a security clearance would not affect him much.

"I don't go back for classified briefings," he wrote. "Won't have any effect on what I say or write."

The idea may have come from Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, who criticized Brennan on Monday morning, arguing that he was "monetizing his security clearance" with attacks on Trump.

Paul confirmed in a tweet on Monday that he had met with Trump and had urged him to revoke these clearances. "Public officials should not use their security clearances to leverage speaking fees or network talking head fees," he tweeted.

Julian Zelizer, a presidential historian at Princeton University, believes Trump is considering the action to punish former officials who have been critical of him as well as silence officials currently serving in his administration who may consider being critical of him down the road. "It's another example of punitive politics," Zelizer said. Trump is likely sending a "general message" to officials that "he will push hard and not allow them to [criticize him] without retribution.

Sanders argued that the security clearance held by former officials "provides inappropriate legitimacy to accusations with zero evidence," adding that Trump believes it is "extremely inappropriate" for former officials to make "baseless accusations of improper contact with Russia or being influenced by Russia."

Clapper and Hayden, both former Republican appointees, have written books arguing that Trump is fueling distrust of U.S. intelligence agencies in order to consolidate his own power, hurting American democracy in the process. They have also been vocal on social media and in interviews about their views on Trump.

Brennan, who was appointed by President Barack Obama, has also been outspoken in his criticism of Trump, arguing after the recent joint press conference with Vladimir Putin that Trump had met the constitutional threshold for impeachment. A spokesman for Brennan did not issue an immediate comment.

McCabe's spokesperson Melissa Schwartz tweeted after the press briefing that his clearance had been terminated when he was fired in March, which they were told was FBI policy. You would think the White House would check with the FBI before trying to throw shiny objects to the press corps..." she tweeted. And Benjamin Wittes, editor in chief of the website lawfare and a friend of Comey's, said he texted the former FBI Director after the briefing, who told him he too no longer had one due to longstanding policy – and had declined a temporary one earlier in the year to read the inspector general's report on Hillary Clinton's e-mail investigation.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on July 24, 2018, 09:13:05 AM
This is totally a classic Trump deflection of attention from his fall out with the Putin summit.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on September 04, 2019, 12:55:37 PM
I love this recap of Trump's last 2 weeks from Kimmel:

QuoteThe president cancelled the trip to Poland to monitor Dorian from his golf course in Virginia, tweeted 514 times, tried to buy Greenland and threw a fit when they wouldn't sell it, suggested firing a nuclear missile at a hurricane, announced he would be suing people who worked for him for violating confidentiality agreements, attacked Grace from Will and Grace, Debra Messing, predicted Sean Spicer will do great on Dancing with the Stars, congratulated Poland on the anniversary of the Nazi invasion, fired his longtime assistant, who reportedly got drunk and told journalists that Trump doesn't like to be photographed with his daughter Tiffany because he believes her to be overweight, and wished a happy birthday to Regis
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on September 04, 2019, 04:29:09 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on September 04, 2019, 12:55:37 PM
I love this recap of Trump's last 2 weeks from Kimmel:

QuoteThe president cancelled the trip to Poland to monitor Dorian from his golf course in Virginia, tweeted 514 times, tried to buy Greenland and threw a fit when they wouldn't sell it, suggested firing a nuclear missile at a hurricane, announced he would be suing people who worked for him for violating confidentiality agreements, attacked Grace from Will and Grace, Debra Messing, predicted Sean Spicer will do great on Dancing with the Stars, congratulated Poland on the anniversary of the Nazi invasion, fired his longtime assistant, who reportedly got drunk and told journalists that Trump doesn't like to be photographed with his daughter Tiffany because he believes her to be overweight, and wished a happy birthday to Regis

you forgot that he has "never even knew a category 5 existed," "people have never seen anything like that," "one has never hit land," and well, he "never heard of the term category 5, other than I knows its there."
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on October 23, 2019, 06:12:50 PM
Dear Mr President, White House Council, and Republican members of the House and Senate

What is happening now is an investigation. It is not a trial. There is no requirement for cross examination, representation, or "facing accusers" during an investigation.
If and when there is a trial, you will have a chance for all of that
For now, please review the Constitution that you are supposed to be defending and the laws that you are supposed to be upholding.

and, btw, asking for foreign help with an election is illegal, whether or not there was quid pro quo.

Your friend
sls
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on October 23, 2019, 07:59:47 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/LXe5FUa.jpg)
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: GBL on October 23, 2019, 08:29:02 PM
I would laugh but nothing is funny anymore
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 23, 2019, 09:33:35 PM
Quote from: GBL on October 23, 2019, 08:29:02 PM
I would laugh but nothing is funny anymore

Welllll!
That there is pretty funny though.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: PIE-GUY on October 23, 2019, 10:22:24 PM
Building a wall in Colorado now, apparently. Genius plan if I understand it correctly.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: birdman on October 24, 2019, 05:44:49 AM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on October 23, 2019, 10:22:24 PM
Building a wall in Colorado now, apparently. Genius plan if I understand it correctly.
three dimensional chess.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on October 24, 2019, 07:18:19 AM
For a moment I thought I would be famous, perhaps being quoted as part of Donald's Tweet on CNN

then I saw who posted the "tweet"

:-P
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 24, 2019, 07:30:23 AM
Quote from: birdman on October 24, 2019, 05:44:49 AM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on October 23, 2019, 10:22:24 PM
Building a wall in Colorado now, apparently. Genius plan if I understand it correctly.
three dimensional chess.

I kid you not, as I was taking my dad to the airport a month ago, he was trying to convey to me how brilliantly strategic this guy is. It took everything in me to not pull the car over and make him hitch to catch his flight home but I took the high road and kept my mouth shut with a smirk on my face.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: mbw on October 24, 2019, 12:25:22 PM
Quote from: sls.stormyrider on October 24, 2019, 07:18:19 AM
For a moment I thought I would be famous, perhaps being quoted as part of Donald's Tweet on CNN

then I saw who posted the "tweet"

:-P

it's legit, dude.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on December 17, 2020, 07:46:55 AM
This shit is downright sad...

https://www.businessinsider.com/head-of-white-house-security-office-coronavirus-amputation-medical-bills-2020-12 (https://www.businessinsider.com/head-of-white-house-security-office-coronavirus-amputation-medical-bills-2020-12)

A gofundme to help with rehab and medical costs?
How are they not just sending the bill to Mr. Covid-in-chief.
He'd welsh on it anyway.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: rowjimmy on December 18, 2020, 08:42:16 AM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on December 17, 2020, 07:46:55 AM
He'd welsh on it anyway.

Don't drag the poor Welsh into this.
it's 'welch'.


That situation is so fucked up and typical. trailing carnage wherever he goes is the way of this president.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on December 18, 2020, 09:36:21 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on December 18, 2020, 08:42:16 AM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on December 17, 2020, 07:46:55 AM
He'd welsh on it anyway.

Don't drag the poor Welsh into this.
it's 'welch'.


That situation is so fucked up and typical. trailing carnage wherever he goes is the way of this president.

The funny part is I had typed welch and then went back and changed it as I wasn't sure if that sounded right.
My apologies to any Welsh paugers out there.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: kellerb on January 09, 2021, 11:18:27 PM
they finally kicked him off twitter.

There haven't been any suspicious new accounts created at the paug, have there?
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: VDB on January 10, 2021, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: kellerb on January 09, 2021, 11:18:27 PM
they finally kicked him off twitter.

There haven't been any suspicious new accounts created at the paug, have there?

Looking forward to seeing paugers invite DJT to pound sand.
Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: sls.stormyrider on January 10, 2021, 03:16:10 PM
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Title: Re: The Trump White House: Adventures in Communications
Post by: Buffalo Budd on January 10, 2021, 09:34:28 PM
Quote from: sls.stormyrider on January 10, 2021, 03:16:10 PM
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:clap: