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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2850 on: February 13, 2018, 03:52:09 PM »
I'm not totally sure on the validity of Vox's reporting but even if this is partially true, what a crock.

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3 Trump properties posted 144 openings for seasonal jobs. Only one went to a US worker.
“America First” doesn’t seem to apply to the president’s own businesses.

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers

of course its true.  who do you think works at hotels and golf courses?
the amount of undocumented workers at his properties is probably huge.

Translation:  "Of course it's true because I want it to be true because it confirms my preexisting beliefs. Probably."

For the record, that's basically Vox's reporting ethos:  come to conclusion and work backwards from there.

youre right

http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/28/news/donald-trump-foreign-workers/index.html

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/362435-trump-winery-seeks-permission-to-hire-foreign-guest-workers

http://www.newsweek.com/america-first-trump-businesses-keep-hiring-foreign-workers-571612

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-history-foreign-workers-properties/story?id=46862305

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2016/jul/27/michael-bloomberg/michael-bloomberg-donald-trump-visa-sys/

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/20/the-foreign-workers-of-mar-a-lago

just making shit up.  probably.

oh snap.

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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2851 on: February 13, 2018, 03:55:19 PM »
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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2852 on: February 13, 2018, 03:56:56 PM »
I'm not totally sure on the validity of Vox's reporting but even if this is partially true, what a crock.

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3 Trump properties posted 144 openings for seasonal jobs. Only one went to a US worker.
“America First” doesn’t seem to apply to the president’s own businesses.

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers

of course its true.  who do you think works at hotels and golf courses?
the amount of undocumented workers at his properties is probably huge.

Translation:  "Of course it's true because I want it to be true because it confirms my preexisting beliefs. Probably."

For the record, that's basically Vox's reporting ethos:  come to conclusion and work backwards from there.

youre right

http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/28/news/donald-trump-foreign-workers/index.html

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/362435-trump-winery-seeks-permission-to-hire-foreign-guest-workers

http://www.newsweek.com/america-first-trump-businesses-keep-hiring-foreign-workers-571612

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-history-foreign-workers-properties/story?id=46862305

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2016/jul/27/michael-bloomberg/michael-bloomberg-donald-trump-visa-sys/

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/20/the-foreign-workers-of-mar-a-lago

just making shit up.  probably.

Not my point. I'm saying you (and Vox) are basing your conclusions on the merits of the program based nothing more than #Resist. And in doing that, you are being as hypocritical as he is, IMO. Irony is weird.

Also, you said "undocumented" which, by definition, H2-B workers are not.

Vox:
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“It’s a bullshit law written to ensure that employers don’t have to hire Americans,” said Krikorian, who normally applauds the president’s immigration agenda.

You actually want to agree with this guy?

CNN:
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Several foreign workers told CNN the opportunity to work for Trump allowed them to "live the American dream."

"It was all a good deal," one former Mar-a-Lago waiter from Romania told CNN on the condition his name would not be used.

The former waiter, who worked at the club on an H-2B visa, said Trump treated the staff with respect. On more than one occasion, he said Trump went back into the club's kitchen and tipped all of the staffers with $100 bills.

"It was a beautiful environment and a great club. I had a very good time," the former waiter from Romania said.

Fuck these Romanian stooges.

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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2853 on: February 14, 2018, 11:52:19 PM »
I can't particularly fault Trump or Mar-a-Lago for playing by the same rules as everyone else (assuming they are playing by the rules; if they haven't been, I've not seen those reports).

What I'm not quite totally clear on is how it can be that no American would be willing to wait tables or sling drinks at a hotel. Last I checked, those were pretty popular occupations in general.
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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2854 on: February 16, 2018, 02:58:54 PM »
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