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We talkiní Aliens up in here!
« on: November 29, 2017, 12:09:14 PM »
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Re: We talkiní Aliens up in here!
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2017, 12:25:52 PM »
Lack of empirical evidence makes me lean towards no.

However, pure probability based on the time earth has existed, how much longer the universe has existed, and how unfathomably large it is makes me think.... probably.
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Re: We talkiní Aliens up in here!
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2017, 12:37:11 PM »
It's one of the best sequels of all time, plus it's got a badass in it named Hicks. 
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Re: We talkiní Aliens up in here!
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2017, 01:06:04 PM »
Lack of empirical evidence makes me lean towards no.
and how unfathomably large it is makes me think....

this here is the problem.  the vast distances which would have to be traveled, is, as far as we know, impossible.
i always get a kick out of the 'crashed ufo' thing.  they figured out how to travel at light speeds across ridiculous distances, find us, and then they can't stick the landing. 

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Re: We talkin’ Aliens up in here!
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2017, 01:13:49 PM »
It's one of the best sequels of all time, plus it's got a badass in it named Hicks.

This.


Also,
Lack of empirical evidence makes me lean towards no.

However, pure probability based on the time earth has existed, how much longer the universe has existed, and how unfathomably large it is makes me think.... probably.

If you're gonna apply probability you need to factor in a few other things:

Given the sheer number of planets, it's highly probable that an intelligent species exists elsewhere in the universe.
However,
Given the sheer number of planets and extreme distances between them, it's highly improbable that an intelligent alien species that is capable of interstellar travel had any reason to even LOOK in the direction of our planet, or that, had they looked, would have seen anything given that the artificially generated EM signals will only have reached a few thousand stars in their <600 trillion miles traveled since we started broadcasting in 1920.

That said, I tend to subscribe to the theory that, were an intelligent species to come here, we'd likely be in for a world of trouble because they'd
A) likely be looking for resources
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B) be technologically advanced well beyond our capacity to defend.


the vast distances which would have to be traveled, is, as far as we know, impossible.
i always get a kick out of the 'crashed ufo' thing.  they figured out how to travel at light speeds across ridiculous distances, find us, and then they can't stick the landing.

Breaking the "sound barrier" was once considered impossible so I try not to think in such absolutes.
Your second point is spot on.

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Re: We talkiní Aliens up in here!
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2017, 02:37:26 PM »
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Re: We talkiní Aliens up in here!
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2017, 02:38:55 PM »
i voted no, but i also have seen a ufo.

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Re: We talkiní Aliens up in here!
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2017, 02:54:34 PM »
I'll agree with many of the points already made. While I think the odds (against a visit) speak for themselves, I'll also allow that any life form with the technology to travel interstellar distances could well also have technology to vet destinations with a precision and scale we cannot fathom. So that, perhaps, could balance out the odds problem. But I still voted no.
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Re: We talkiní Aliens up in here!
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2017, 02:59:12 PM »
this here is the problem.  the vast distances which would have to be traveled, is, as far as we know, impossible. 

I don't disagree.... but if there is a civilization that has existed billions and billions of years longer than us, maybe they've figured that out.

Given the sheer number of planets and extreme distances between them, it's highly improbable that an intelligent alien species that is capable of interstellar travel had any reason to even LOOK in the direction of our planet, or that, had they looked, would have seen anything given that the artificially generated EM signals will only have reached a few thousand stars in their <600 trillion miles traveled since we started broadcasting in 1920.

Good point. But maybe in 13.8 billion years time (since the Big Bang) somebody out there just happened to come this way.... by chance. That's a long time.  Things happen....

i voted no, but i also have seen a ufo.

I have a couple stories that involve seeing objects that I couldn't describe in the sky.  Most of those stories start with....'I was tripping this one time and....' so I can't exactly vouch for my own credibility.
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Re: We talkiní Aliens up in here!
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2017, 03:06:57 PM »
Somebody here's gotta have an uncle, who worked with a guy, who used to work for NASA, and came across some Top Secret documents in 1972 or something.... right?
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Re: We talkiní Aliens up in here!
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2017, 03:07:00 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter

Civilizations always destroy themselves before gaining the capability of interstellar travel. 

Just look around, we are currently circling the filter. 

Having said that, the aliens are already here, we call them "plants". 
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Re: We talkiní Aliens up in here!
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2017, 04:28:55 PM »
I definitely saw aliens during a couple fall 97 shows

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Re: We talkiní Aliens up in here!
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2017, 04:31:07 PM »
i voted no, but i also have seen a ufo.

I have a couple stories that involve seeing objects that I couldn't describe in the sky.  Most of those stories start with....'I was tripping this one time and....' so I can't exactly vouch for my own credibility.

I remember camping at Deer Creek in 09 or 10, and the night before the first show Me, MBW and Tait were sitting around outside talking and I saw something in the sky.  It was a weird light far off in the distance, totally strange and unique, never seen anything like it.  I kind of started to freak out because it was so weird.

A minute or so later realized it was a plane that was basically flying straight toward us on the horizon.  Optical illusions are fun (so are drugs).
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Re: We talkiní Aliens up in here!
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2017, 04:33:38 PM »
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