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Title: Grado Cans
Post by: aphineday on September 21, 2011, 10:18:30 AM
So let's say I was thinking of buying a set. What is a good place to start? Will I need a headphone amp with these?
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: DoW on September 21, 2011, 10:33:40 AM
I have a pair of RS1s and love them.  I bought mine used from Jason.  He took really good care of them and they sound great.
I wouldn't start off with an amp.  You can always add that later.

I'm not knowledgable on the headphone amrket but you probably want to buy something that would hold its value somewhat on the resale market in case you want to upgrade at a later time.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: twatts on September 21, 2011, 11:35:01 AM
Good place to start:  http://www.goodcans.com/

Terry
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Caravan2001 on September 21, 2011, 11:50:00 AM
I have a pair of RS2i's.....I really, really, LOVE them.  It's a lot to spend on cans, but worth it.....I went to a headphones store here in Portland, they sell everything so I got to A/B a ton of different ones...Some, like the Sennheisers, really needed an amp, especially if you plan on using them with an ipod.  The Grados you don't (even though you could, with great results.)  Only problem with the Grados is that they are open ear so they are very loud to people around you.  When I went to the Denver shows, the kid behind me on the plane was wearing them and blasting out all the other passengers....what a tool...
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: rowjimmy on September 21, 2011, 01:27:30 PM
Love my Grados but they stay at home.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: aphineday on September 21, 2011, 02:03:02 PM
Thanks for all the help here guys, really. Good info.

On RJ's note, these will definitely not be traveling. Planning on creating a listening station.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: tet on September 22, 2011, 11:45:14 AM
if you got the cash, go for a nice pair like the RS-1 or PS1000.  otherwise, you might just enjoy something like the SR-125/225/325 line, which in my opinion are fantastic value (I have the SR-125s and just love them).  whatever you decide, you can't go wrong with Grados - they are truly excellent, and crafted with care right in NYC
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: postjack on September 22, 2011, 11:18:28 PM
I'm a bit of a Gradohead. I've owned, at various points, the SR60, SR225, SR325i, HF-1, HF-2, three different pairs of RS-1 (original "buttoned" cups, buttonless cups, and recabled/balanced original "buttoned" cups) two different pairs of GS1000 (one recabled, one stock), HP-2, and currently the PS1000, the only can I currently own. Grado's do benefit from a better headphone amp but since they are low impedance they don't REQUIRE a headphone amp to sound good, like some other cans (the sennheiser HD650 for example really needs a quality headphone amp to sound acceptable). Having said that they do sound better with better amplification, but you don't have to worry about that right away. I always recommend the same Grados at various price points.

SR60 for the budget can, the so-called gateway Grado
SR225 is the next step up, and probably the best over all Grado value
then I skip straight to the RS-1. its a true classic and the most iconic on the current production Grados

The best Grado ever made is the Joseph Grado HP-2/HP-1000/HP-1. Hell it might be the best dynamic can ever made. It has gotten me closer to music then almost any other can. However they are expensive, out of production, and the only person on the planet who can repair them is Joseph Grado himself, and he is getting up there age-wise. I sold them because owning expensive cans (think $1300-1800) that are out of production and not easily repairable made me nervous.

I can't recommend the GS1000. It is an interesting can and very comfortable but it is devoid of any meaningful midrange, and when it comes to Grado if you don't have the magic Grado midrange for that absolutely perfect crunchy electric guitar whats the point. The PS1000 brought the midrange back into the GS1000 type design and I love it, but it is a terrible value. I got mine for waaaay less then MSRP used and am therefore very happy with them.

Whats your budget? if you can swing it snag the RS-1.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: aphineday on September 23, 2011, 01:24:09 AM
Thanks to Tet and Postjack as well. Certainly a lot of great info and suggestions to chew over in here. After just taking a look price-wise, the RS-1s are a little out of my price range currently. I'm thinking along the lines of trying the SR225 or SR325. Between the two, you guys say the 225? It's even a stretch on a broke pilot's budget, but damn it's enticing me...
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: rowjimmy on September 23, 2011, 06:56:34 AM
Quote from: postjack on September 22, 2011, 11:18:28 PM

The best Grado ever made is the Joseph Grado HP-2/HP-1000/HP-1. Hell it might be the best dynamic can ever made. It has gotten me closer to music then almost any other can. However they are expensive, out of production, and the only person on the planet who can repair them is Joseph Grado himself, and he is getting up there age-wise. I sold them because owning expensive cans (think $1300-1800) that are out of production and not easily repairable made me nervous.

Nervous? Afraid you were gonna sit on them?

I love mine and miss them when I'm listening to lesser headphones on the train.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: nab on September 23, 2011, 09:17:11 AM
I've had a pair of 225's for a while now and I absolutely love them.  Like RJ, my Grados stay at home and I do miss them at the office when I'm in doing paperwork.



If you are thinking about buying in the SR-125/225/325 line, I started this thread when I was debating which model to buy:

http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=17531.0


Some good Grado advice there as well
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: aphineday on September 23, 2011, 09:39:26 AM
Quote from: nab on September 23, 2011, 09:17:11 AM
I've had a pair of 225's for a while now and I absolutely love them.  Like RJ, my Grados stay at home and I do miss them at the office when I'm in doing paperwork.



If you are thinking about buying in the SR-125/225/325 line, I started this thread when I was debating which model to buy:

http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=17531.0


Some good Grado advice there as well
Nice, yeah I read that thread as well, ton of good stuff in there. Basically just checking it out to see if anyone's opinion had changed in the last few months ;). Also good to hear how much you enjoy yours, as that's where I'm leaning right now.

Thanks again to all for the adivce! +k!
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: ph92 on September 23, 2011, 09:53:21 AM
I would also look into these.

http://www.alessandro-products.com/main.php?p=headphones

They are modified Grado Casing with Alessandro drivers. Apparently each one is a step up when compared to the original. Though I never have heard them, I have heard great reviews on sites such as head-fi and other headphone based communities. But there are 3 different models to choose from.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: postjack on September 23, 2011, 09:56:57 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on September 23, 2011, 06:56:34 AM
Quote from: postjack on September 22, 2011, 11:18:28 PM

The best Grado ever made is the Joseph Grado HP-2/HP-1000/HP-1. Hell it might be the best dynamic can ever made. It has gotten me closer to music then almost any other can. However they are expensive, out of production, and the only person on the planet who can repair them is Joseph Grado himself, and he is getting up there age-wise. I sold them because owning expensive cans (think $1300-1800) that are out of production and not easily repairable made me nervous.

Nervous? Afraid you were gonna sit on them?

I love mine and miss them when I'm listening to lesser headphones on the train.

I'm a nervous person. I admit the chances of those phones breaking are slim.

but things happen.  I was running a tube headphone amp at the time and had the experience of an arcing tube exploding a driver in my RS-1. easy enough to fix that, just ship it to Brooklyn. but if the HP1000 were to blow, I have to rely on a 92 year old Joseph Grado to fix it. I hear he's still sharp as a tack but still, he's all you got.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: postjack on September 23, 2011, 10:01:46 AM
Quote from: aphineday on September 23, 2011, 01:24:09 AM
Thanks to Tet and Postjack as well. Certainly a lot of great info and suggestions to chew over in here. After just taking a look price-wise, the RS-1s are a little out of my price range currently. I'm thinking along the lines of trying the SR225 or SR325. Between the two, you guys say the 225? It's even a stretch on a broke pilot's budget, but damn it's enticing me...

I'd take the 225 over the 325. save the hundred dollars. the 325 is good but not a huge step up over the 225 and many find it to bright. the 225 gives you great resolution in the price range and let's you know what the Grado midrange magic and midbass punch are all about. GREAT rock phones.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: aphineday on December 28, 2011, 01:06:54 PM
So after much debate, and constantly talking myself out of buying a set, I finally took the plunge.
Although my Paug fantasy team got absolutely destroyed, I won my first championship in a league I've played in for 5 years. Gathered my winnings, took advantage of some free shipping and tax from Decibel in Chicago, and am now waiting for a box of 225s!!
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: aphineday on December 28, 2011, 11:07:58 PM
Just to add to my purchase story here, I want to include a conversation I had with a guy at work today:

Me: I finally pulled the trigger on some sweet headphones
My Boss: Wow, that's really cool (after I explained what they were to her)
Matt (another dude I work with): What kind of headphones are they?
Me: Grado RS225i
Matt: Oh, I thought you were going to say something sweet like Turtle Beach
Me: I'll take the Pepsi challenge with that Amsterdam shit any day of the week.
Matt: What?
Me: Exactly.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: ytowndan on December 29, 2011, 12:08:05 AM
Ha!  Sounds like Matt hasn't seen Pulp Fiction 100+ times like most normal people. 
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: nab on December 29, 2011, 12:14:20 AM
Quote from: aphineday on December 28, 2011, 01:06:54 PM
So after much debate, and constantly talking myself out of buying a set, I finally took the plunge.
Although my Paug fantasy team got absolutely destroyed, I won my first championship in a league I've played in for 5 years. Gathered my winnings, took advantage of some free shipping and tax from Decibel in Chicago, and am now waiting for a box of 225s!!



Good choice, the ones I own as well.  Favorite pair of cans I've ever bought. 
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Buffalo Budd on December 29, 2011, 01:36:07 AM
First time I checked this, I thought it was a sex thread.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: gah on December 29, 2011, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on December 29, 2011, 01:36:07 AM
First time I checked this, I thought it was a sex thread.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard There's no reason it can't be!

(http://www.beatcow.org/upload/hotties_in_headphones.jpg)
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: twatts on December 29, 2011, 01:29:49 PM
Quote from: aphineday on December 28, 2011, 11:07:58 PM
Just to add to my purchase story here, I want to include a conversation I had with a guy at work today:

Me: I finally pulled the trigger on some sweet headphones
My Boss: Wow, that's really cool (after I explained what they were to her)
Matt (another dude I work with): What kind of headphones are they?
Me: Grado RS225i
Matt: Oh, I thought you were going to say something sweet like Turtle Beach
Me: I'll take the Pepsi challenge with that Amsterdam shit any day of the week.
Matt: What?
Me: Exactly.

LOL!!!   :clap:

Terry
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: nab on December 29, 2011, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on December 29, 2011, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on December 29, 2011, 01:36:07 AM
First time I checked this, I thought it was a sex thread.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard There's no reason it can't be!





Not as good of a picture, but at least it sticks to the subject matter at hand.  Sony, lol.

(http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.deviantart.com/download/158649593/Grado_SR_80_by_Pas1990.jpg&sa=X&ei=hrL8TqWZM_DUiAL22dWMDQ&ved=0CAsQ8wc4WA&usg=AFQjCNFKHAebp92HtIXscB47NV7vvbIjoA)
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: gah on December 29, 2011, 01:53:27 PM
Quote from: nab on December 29, 2011, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on December 29, 2011, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on December 29, 2011, 01:36:07 AM
First time I checked this, I thought it was a sex thread.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard There's no reason it can't be!





Not as good of a picture, but at least it sticks to the subject matter at hand.  Sony, lol.


HEY! I was just looking for pics with cans of all sorts, I don't discriminate when it comes to the female kinds  :-D But if you must:

(http://cdn.head-fi.org/e/e7/e76e2136_vbattach14852.jpg)

Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: nab on December 29, 2011, 02:09:51 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on December 29, 2011, 01:53:27 PM
Quote from: nab on December 29, 2011, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on December 29, 2011, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on December 29, 2011, 01:36:07 AM
First time I checked this, I thought it was a sex thread.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard There's no reason it can't be!





Not as good of a picture, but at least it sticks to the subject matter at hand.  Sony, lol.


HEY! I was just looking for pics with cans of all sorts, I don't discriminate when it comes to the female kinds  :-D But if you must:





I must 


(http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/110826_blog_photo_Sashura.jpg)
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: gah on December 29, 2011, 02:21:31 PM
Quote from: nab on December 29, 2011, 02:09:51 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on December 29, 2011, 01:53:27 PM
Quote from: nab on December 29, 2011, 01:34:53 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on December 29, 2011, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on December 29, 2011, 01:36:07 AM
First time I checked this, I thought it was a sex thread.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard There's no reason it can't be!





Not as good of a picture, but at least it sticks to the subject matter at hand.  Sony, lol.


HEY! I was just looking for pics with cans of all sorts, I don't discriminate when it comes to the female kinds  :-D But if you must:





I must 



I was afraid of that, so shall it be.

(http://cdn.head-fi.org/6/6f/6f0038e0_vbattach14855.jpg)

(http://cdn.head-fi.org/9/9d/9d08b310_vbattach14856.jpg)
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: mbw on December 29, 2011, 02:25:25 PM
a cartoon and a painting?

quick, someone teach nab how to find pr0n on the interwebz.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: gah on December 29, 2011, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on December 29, 2011, 02:25:25 PM
a cartoon and a painting?

quick, someone teach nab how to find pr0n on the interwebz.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard Pretty sure he's on the gov't computers so he can't access all of the interwebz. I have high expectations for him to make up for this when he gets home this evening tho  :evil:
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: aphineday on December 29, 2011, 03:03:51 PM
This thread is now full of WIN. Grados in, I have one more flight left, then unboxing!! Should be good to run the webcast tonight with the new cans... But I already know the first thing I listen to will be the 4/8/72 Dark Star. CAN'T WAIT.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: nab on December 29, 2011, 03:27:18 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on December 29, 2011, 02:25:25 PM
a cartoon and a painting?

quick, someone teach nab how to find pr0n on the interwebz.


Do I need to point out that I'm the only one who brought a nipple to this thread as well? 


Less talk, more sexy girls wearing Grados
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: antelope19 on December 29, 2011, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: aphineday on December 28, 2011, 11:07:58 PM
Just to add to my purchase story here, I want to include a conversation I had with a guy at work today:

Me: I finally pulled the trigger on some sweet headphones
My Boss: Wow, that's really cool (after I explained what they were to her)
Matt (another dude I work with): What kind of headphones are they?
Me: Grado RS225i
Matt: Oh, I thought you were going to say something sweet like Turtle Beach
Me: I'll take the Pepsi challenge with that Amsterdam shit any day of the week.
Matt: What?
Me: Exactly.

:-)
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Buffalo Budd on December 29, 2011, 05:19:33 PM
Quote from: aphineday on December 29, 2011, 03:03:51 PM
This thread is now full of WIN.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: whatapiper on December 29, 2011, 08:51:38 PM
this thread has inspired my next birthday present
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: PIE-GUY on February 19, 2014, 06:27:06 PM
It's time to infest in some good cans. Obv, the folks around here seem to suggest grado. I have no experience with open cans at all, but I will say, I have always found I prefer something that sits around my ear, as opposed to on my ear. Suggestions?

Also, I'm gonna go ahead and say the RS1 is too expensive for me. Thinking about the SR225i with the G-Cush pads as suggested here:

http://goodcans.com/HeadphoneStore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=78 (http://goodcans.com/HeadphoneStore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=78)
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Buffalo Budd on February 19, 2014, 07:11:51 PM
Quote from: PG on February 19, 2014, 06:27:06 PM
It's time to infest in some good cans. Obv, the folks around here seem to suggest grado. I have no experience with open cans at all, but I will say, I have always found I prefer something that sits around my ear, as opposed to on my ear. Suggestions?

Also, I'm gonna go ahead and say the RS1 is too expensive for me. Thinking about the SR225i with the G-Cush pads as suggested here:

http://goodcans.com/HeadphoneStore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=78 (http://goodcans.com/HeadphoneStore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=78)

I may infest in some good cans myself.  :wink:

I actually have tossed this idea around for awhile now but my track record with headphones has been less than stellar.
I feel like I need to stick with the cheapos orwind up super disappointed.

ETA. Those cans are bad ass and I would love to have a pair.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: DoW on February 19, 2014, 07:40:58 PM
I bought Sobel's RS2s off him and love them.
Grado makes an outstanding product.  you'll love whatever you choose.  :music:
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Caravan2001 on February 19, 2014, 08:41:24 PM
I have RS2i's...I love them.  Couldn't pull the trigger on the RS1s....I almost never use my Grado's, but when I do, it's usually a late night focused listening session and they are simply unbelievable.  I have never heard so much detail in the White Album as I have when playing an OG mono copy on the Grado's.  They have paid for themselves in enjoyment 50 times over....
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: PIE-GUY on February 19, 2014, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on February 19, 2014, 08:41:24 PM
I have RS2i's...I love them.  Couldn't pull the trigger on the RS1s....I almost never use my Grado's, but when I do, it's usually a late night focused listening session and they are simply unbelievable.  I have never heard so much detail in the White Album as I have when playing an OG mono copy on the Grado's.  They have paid for themselves in enjoyment 50 times over....

do the RS2i's rest on your ears at all?
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Caravan2001 on February 19, 2014, 09:52:02 PM
Quote from: PG on February 19, 2014, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on February 19, 2014, 08:41:24 PM
I have RS2i's...I love them.  Couldn't pull the trigger on the RS1s....I almost never use my Grado's, but when I do, it's usually a late night focused listening session and they are simply unbelievable.  I have never heard so much detail in the White Album as I have when playing an OG mono copy on the Grado's.  They have paid for themselves in enjoyment 50 times over....

do the RS2i's rest on your ears at all?

Not sure exactly what that means, but they're really comfortable...It takes a little while for them to break in, but now I don't even notice them and they are still pretty new.  I have had them for about 4 years but they barely have 200 hours on them I would guess.  I did read about some people's issues with comfort, but I never really had any (though they were stiff at first).
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: twatts on February 19, 2014, 09:53:00 PM
Quote from: PG on February 19, 2014, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on February 19, 2014, 08:41:24 PM
I have RS2i's...I love them.  Couldn't pull the trigger on the RS1s....I almost never use my Grado's, but when I do, it's usually a late night focused listening session and they are simply unbelievable.  I have never heard so much detail in the White Album as I have when playing an OG mono copy on the Grado's.  They have paid for themselves in enjoyment 50 times over....

do the RS2i's rest on your ears at all?

All the Grado cans are on-ear (or in-ear).  The only circumaural set they sell is the PS1000... 

However, there are after-market pads that can turn a set into circumaurals...  http://goodcans.com/HeadphoneStore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=65

Terry
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: twatts on February 19, 2014, 10:09:34 PM
One other thing to keep in mind:  AFAIK, all Grado's cans are open-backed, so people around you will be able to hear your music...  This may not be cool if you plan on listening to them at your office... 

I listen to headphones about 6hours a day at the office so I need circumaurals/closed back cans...

Right now, I'm looking at ATH-M50s...  I'm really diggin' the blue ones...

Terry
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Caravan2001 on February 19, 2014, 11:24:35 PM
Ahhh...I see what PG was saying...No, they really don't rest on your ears and while initially, it may seem odd if you're used to big puffy cans that cover your whole ear (Senns/AKG), but they are fine comfort wise.  Are they the most comfortable cans I have ever owned?  Not really, but you're so immersed in listening that it's never an issue for me.  And Terry is right, being open backed, I would not recommend Grados for any type of commuting/plane/office use.  They project sound pretty clearly.  I had a guy behind me using them on a plane and I might as well have had the cans on my head the music was so clear.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: PIE-GUY on February 19, 2014, 11:51:24 PM
Quote from: twatts on February 19, 2014, 09:53:00 PM
Quote from: PG on February 19, 2014, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on February 19, 2014, 08:41:24 PM
I have RS2i's...I love them.  Couldn't pull the trigger on the RS1s....I almost never use my Grado's, but when I do, it's usually a late night focused listening session and they are simply unbelievable.  I have never heard so much detail in the White Album as I have when playing an OG mono copy on the Grado's.  They have paid for themselves in enjoyment 50 times over....

do the RS2i's rest on your ears at all?

All the Grado cans are on-ear (or in-ear).  The only circumaural set they sell is the PS1000... 

However, there are after-market pads that can turn a set into circumaurals...  http://goodcans.com/HeadphoneStore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=65

Terry

That's what I'm thinking about... Adding the g-Cush to a lower end model.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: PIE-GUY on February 19, 2014, 11:54:06 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on February 19, 2014, 11:24:35 PM
Ahhh...I see what PG was saying...No, they really don't rest on your ears and while initially, it may seem odd if you're used to big puffy cans that cover your whole ear (Senns/AKG), but they are fine comfort wise.  Are they the most comfortable cans I have ever owned?  Not really, but you're so immersed in listening that it's never an issue for me.  And Terry is right, being open backed, I would not recommend Grados for any type of commuting/plane/office use.  They project sound pretty clearly.  I had a guy behind me using them on a plane and I might as well have had the cans on my head the music was so clear.

These are for use in my office while working, primarily.  I've got westone custom molded in ear monitors for travel. I don't fuck around on that front. But for the office, I'd like some real cans.

I've got this project coming that's gonna require a lot of listening and last just about all year. 
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: nab on February 20, 2014, 12:57:03 AM
I own a pair of the 225's that I have been using for the last three years.  If you have any specific questions send me a pm or post here.


As for my general personal experience, I have mostly fanboy advice to offer.  Without too much audiophile garble to go into; these are my go-to listening device for personal interaction with music.  After discovering a new music set I like, I often can't wait to "listen to this with my Grados without distraction". 

Clean, Open, and Accurate, are the three words I would associate with the cans.  The sound approximates the breath of speaker system well for headphones in that it doesn't feel like a closed environment.  To me, this is the main draw.  The sound also seems accurate, which can be a blessing or a curse depending on the source material.  I've had great listening experiences with both lossy and lossless music with these headphones, though the limitations of the recording environment/post-production are always apparent in both their glory and shortcomings. 

What I always want more from these cans is bass.  From my personal reference, you'll be able to hear every finger scrape Phil plays on early 70s recordings, but none of them will jar the fillings out of your teeth.  Same with Mike; every note will be represented beautifully, but none will rattle your skull like a full sound system or a set of phones more colored for bass.

Different listening environments are useful for different experiences.  These cans are my go-to for careful listening with headphones attached.

These headphones also improve with age.  It took me approximately 50-75 hours of play to dampen the brightness of the highs and mids.  I let them play overnight a few nights before giving the sound a final chance.  Seems to get better, but subjectivity is a bitch.

Did I mention they are hand assembled in the USA?     


 
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: rowjimmy on February 20, 2014, 05:44:11 AM
There are plenty of good headphones out there but I only ever recommend Grados.

Buy what your budget will allow and you'll likely be happy.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: tet on February 21, 2014, 10:43:10 AM
Yeah I'm very partial to my Grados as well.  There are other great ones out there for sure, but as I listen at home, the open-backed design is never a problem, and I just love the quality and clarity - and I only have the SR125!  I've listened to a pair of RS1's and seriously enjoyed that as well. 

These bigger cups are definitely something I've thought about for a while but never pulled the trigger on.  I am a little worried about changing the sound dynamics but am tempted to try them out.  As I wear glasses, having cups ON the ear tends to press down a bit on the frame behind my ear so they do get uncomfortable after a very extended listening session (2+ hours).  Maybe the larger cups would help, or maybe make it worse... anyone with glasses have some experience with those?
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: nab on February 21, 2014, 12:11:48 PM
I actually achieved slightly better low end dynamics by flipping the stock ear pads around and attaching them backwards.  It's not a night and day difference by any stretch, but it does back the phones a bit further from your ears.  They attach just fine that way and stay on as well as the direction they were shipped, though I guess it depends on what the condition of your pads is.   
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: aphineday on February 22, 2014, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: nab on February 21, 2014, 12:11:48 PM
I actually achieved slightly better low end dynamics by flipping the stock ear pads around and attaching them backwards.  It's not a night and day difference by any stretch, but it does back the phones a bit further from your ears.  They attach just fine that way and stay on as well as the direction they were shipped, though I guess it depends on what the condition of your pads is.   
Interesting, may have to check that out.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: PIE-GUY on June 27, 2014, 10:41:06 AM
So, I have the Grado SR125i. I added the G-Cush circumaural pads and the padded headband cover... and I still find the things damn uncomfortable for listening longer than about an hour. Honestly, I just took a trip to Israel and spent 20 or so hours each way with my Westone custom-molded monitors in my ears without ever experiencing any discomfort. They sound amazing, too. So, I'm frustrated with the Grado's.

Anyone want them? I've got about $200 or so invested in them at this point and I don't really want them any more. I'd be willing to cut a pretty good deal, I suppose.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: aphineday on September 02, 2014, 07:42:32 PM
Okay, so thinking of grabbing some good in-ear monitors.
Looking at the Grado GR10s.
Any experience to speak of? Better options?
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 02, 2014, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: aphineday on September 02, 2014, 07:42:32 PM
Okay, so thinking of grabbing some good in-ear monitors.
Looking at the Grado GR10s.
Any experience to speak of? Better options?

I use these - http://www.westoneaudio.com/index.php/products/custom-series/cr10.html (http://www.westoneaudio.com/index.php/products/custom-series/cr10.html)

Gotta go to an audiologist for molds, but totally worth it.

Also, I still have some Grado Cans to sell... anyone interested?
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: aphineday on September 02, 2014, 09:23:41 PM
Thanks, I'll check that out.
Comfortable, and sound is pretty good?
I've already started reading reviews (which are great), I just thought I'd ask you as well.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Caravan2001 on September 02, 2014, 09:58:30 PM
I have these: http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er4.html

They sound great but busted after 6 months.  Sending them back now.  Pretty bummed after dropping $300 on ear buds.  Amazing soundstage but not huge bass.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 02, 2014, 10:08:18 PM
Quote from: aphineday on September 02, 2014, 09:23:41 PM
Thanks, I'll check that out.
Comfortable, and sound is pretty good?
I've already started reading reviews (which are great), I just thought I'd ask you as well.

If they aren't comfortable (which mine weren't at first) the audiologist helping you will send them back for adjustments. I used mine on 8+ hour flights to and from Israel with no discomfort at all.

As for sound, these are the most basic version of what professional musicians use for onstage monitors. The difference is these have a single driver... the pros will have several drivers. The ES60's have six drivers, for instance. So, they're not audiophile incredible, but they are really really good. Plus the custom fit blocks out all outside sound so even on a plane you don't have to listen very loudly and the sound is crystal clear. I'm looking forward to pairing them with my Pono player soon. Gonna sound amazing!!

One thing to consider: the CR10's that I have are the only custom monitors Westone makes that are NOT designed to have the cord loop over your ear and then meet behind your head. They have a more traditional cord that comes straight down to meet in front of you. That's big for me since I primarily use them on a plane.

Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: aphineday on September 02, 2014, 10:16:46 PM
Thanks, guys! All really solid suggestions! I'm in the process of reading reviews, and will make a decision soon.
I also have a Pono coming soon, and want something great to pair with it!
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: barnesy305 on September 02, 2014, 10:22:00 PM
I just checked and an audiologist is literally right across the street from my house. You have me seriously considering those Westones PG.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 02, 2014, 10:29:29 PM
Quote from: barnesy305 on September 02, 2014, 10:22:00 PM
I just checked and an audiologist is literally right across the street from my house. You have me seriously considering those Westones PG.

If you do it, get some one these babies, too:  http://www.westoneaudio.com/index.php/products/hearing-protection/es49-custom-hearing-protection.html (http://www.westoneaudio.com/index.php/products/hearing-protection/es49-custom-hearing-protection.html)


They can make them from the same molds you have made for the monitors. I think they're less than $100 and I swear by them. I use them for literally every show I go to including phish.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 13, 2014, 11:11:04 PM

Any opinions on Bose headphones? In particular, these ones?

http://www.cnet.com/products/bose-oe/
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: PIE-GUY on October 13, 2014, 11:29:13 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on October 13, 2014, 11:11:04 PM

Any opinions on Bose headphones? In particular, these ones?

http://www.cnet.com/products/bose-oe/

Don't get Bose. They are horrendously overpriced.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Buffalo Budd on October 14, 2014, 09:15:55 AM
Quote from: PG on October 13, 2014, 11:29:13 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on October 13, 2014, 11:11:04 PM

Any opinions on Bose headphones? In particular, these ones?

http://www.cnet.com/products/bose-oe/

Don't get Bose. They are horrendously overpriced.

I agree for the most part but Costco is offering some OEs for $115 and wondered if that would be a good starter phone. I just can't bring myself to pay the $250+ for Grados.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: rowjimmy on October 14, 2014, 09:20:11 AM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on October 14, 2014, 09:15:55 AM
Quote from: PG on October 13, 2014, 11:29:13 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on October 13, 2014, 11:11:04 PM

Any opinions on Bose headphones? In particular, these ones?

http://www.cnet.com/products/bose-oe/

Don't get Bose. They are horrendously overpriced.

I agree for the most part but Costco is offering some OEs for $115 and wondered if that would be a good starter phone. I just can't bring myself to pay the $250+ for Grados.

Save your money for another month.

The Grados are handmade high quality cans. and you will be glad to have waited a little longer to buy them.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: WhatstheUse? on June 11, 2015, 12:27:27 PM
Grabbed a pair of sr225's a few months ago.  Loving the sound quality, but like PG mentioned, super uncomfortable, IMO. Can't really wear them more than 30 min w/o discomfort.

Maybe we both just have strangely shaped heads or something  :wtu:
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Buffalo Budd on January 19, 2022, 08:26:21 AM
I ended up finding a set of Marley Positive Vibration XL for half price over the holidays and am really enjoying them. The beauty is I am able to use them for work with the jack provided. So comfy and completely noise cancelling, which is great with both kids at home these days. I know they won't measure up to the Grados but it's a decent starting point for me.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Hicks on January 19, 2022, 11:47:02 AM
You were looking for headphones for seven years?!!
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Buffalo Budd on January 19, 2022, 03:25:01 PM
Quote from: Hicks on January 19, 2022, 11:47:02 AMYou were looking for headphones for seven years?!!

Keep up Hicks, I ended up spending that money on records and system upgrades.  :P
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: PIE-GUY on January 19, 2022, 04:30:11 PM
I've got a set of Grado's I do not use - happy to sell for a good price. 
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: kellerb on January 19, 2022, 04:30:58 PM
Quote from: Hicks on January 19, 2022, 11:47:02 AMYou were looking for headphones for seven years?!!

They were on his head the whole time!
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: khalpin on January 19, 2022, 05:02:15 PM
Quote from: kellerb on January 19, 2022, 04:30:58 PM
Quote from: Hicks on January 19, 2022, 11:47:02 AMYou were looking for headphones for seven years?!!

They were on his head the whole time!

 :hereyougoyousentimentalbastar
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: mattstick on January 19, 2022, 05:05:53 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on January 19, 2022, 04:30:11 PMI've got a set of Grado's I do not use - happy to sell for a good price.

I may be interested, PM details?
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Hicks on January 19, 2022, 09:45:57 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on January 19, 2022, 03:25:01 PM
Quote from: Hicks on January 19, 2022, 11:47:02 AMYou were looking for headphones for seven years?!!

Keep up Hicks, I ended up spending that money on records and system upgrades.  :P

You mean like not changing your stylus out for 3 three years?   :samurai:  :samurai: 
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Buffalo Budd on January 20, 2022, 09:30:08 AM
Quote from: Hicks on January 19, 2022, 09:45:57 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on January 19, 2022, 03:25:01 PM
Quote from: Hicks on January 19, 2022, 11:47:02 AMYou were looking for headphones for seven years?!!

Keep up Hicks, I ended up spending that money on records and system upgrades.  :P

You mean like not changing your stylus out for 3 three years?   :samurai:  :samurai: 

Touche bud. I can only do so much on a meager salary and 2 kids in downhill ski racing.
One thing at a time and FTR, the headphones were a gift from my BIL so I didn't even buy them, I just picked em out.
New stylus is scheduled to arrive today so I'm stoked to hear the diff.
Maybe you didn't hear but I also drove my snowblower over my phone and keys on the weekend. Bye bye $2,000.
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Superfreakie on January 20, 2022, 01:18:23 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on January 20, 2022, 09:30:08 AM2 kids in downhill ski racing.

face palm
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Hicks on January 20, 2022, 01:33:42 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on January 20, 2022, 09:30:08 AM
Quote from: Hicks on January 19, 2022, 09:45:57 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on January 19, 2022, 03:25:01 PM
Quote from: Hicks on January 19, 2022, 11:47:02 AMYou were looking for headphones for seven years?!!

Keep up Hicks, I ended up spending that money on records and system upgrades.  :P

You mean like not changing your stylus out for 3 three years?   :samurai:  :samurai: 

Touche bud. I can only do so much on a meager salary and 2 kids in downhill ski racing.
One thing at a time and FTR, the headphones were a gift from my BIL so I didn't even buy them, I just picked em out.
New stylus is scheduled to arrive today so I'm stoked to hear the diff.
Maybe you didn't hear but I also drove my snowblower over my phone and keys on the weekend. Bye bye $2,000.
Always go suck to blow, never blow to suck. 
Title: Re: Grado Cans
Post by: Buffalo Budd on January 20, 2022, 03:45:32 PM
Quote
Quote2 kids in downhill ski racing.

face palm

I thought of you the other day and your stories from taking the team overseas for training, lol.
I sure hope there aren't any Superfreakies on the coaching staff.
They all seem pretty square for the most part but my oldest is only 11 (4th season racing) so we'll see in 5 years.