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Title: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: Gundo on January 09, 2017, 01:16:00 PM
Hey Paugers,
This is the weight training and diet thread. I started weight lifting about a year and a half ago and I love it. I'm always trying to learn more about training and dieting too. It's ridiculous how much crap info is out there that people fall victim to. Weight training is just the type of working out that encapsulates everything I want.

For anyone interested, this is where I started:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/wiki/getting_started

I used to do a beginner aesthetic program, but recently switched to Stronglifts 5/5. The workout itself takes under and hour. But I also rock climb at my bouldering gym for about an hour before I lift. Anyone here a climber??

I have many other links I will post here. Feel free to ask me any questions about training or diet.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: fastfingers12 on January 09, 2017, 05:50:38 PM
Awesome! One of my old roommates that used to work for the OU strength and conditioning department turned me onto this one... Kinda hits on that 5/5 aspect you were talking about.  If you're looking to put on a few extra lb. of muscle this will do it for ya. Since it's only three days a week on the off days I would go in and work on other muscle groups that aren't really targeted in the workout. https://www.t-nation.com/training/10-secrets-to-building-mass
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: VDB on January 09, 2017, 06:11:51 PM
I would suggest to anyone interested in weightlifting to own and read The Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding, by Arnold Schwarzenegger. The title notwithstanding, this book is far from being a manual just for competition bodybuilders or meatheads (although it would serve them well, too). Arnold tells you essentially everything you need to know about lifting for mass, strength and/or looks, including workout programs for beginners, intermediates and advanced lifters.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: Gundo on January 09, 2017, 06:29:20 PM
Quote from: fastfingers12 on January 09, 2017, 05:50:38 PM
https://www.t-nation.com/training/10-secrets-to-building-mass
This link has a lot of truth in it, but that workout routine at the bottom is absolutely way too much for a beginner. Almost looks like an advanced routine. And personally for me, my focus is on wanting to get better at climbing and supplementing the climbing with weight training. I just hate these types of articles that are always titled something stupid like "Top Ten Ways to get Shredded" or "How to look like a Greek God" because they're misleading to people who have no knowledge on the subject.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: fastfingers12 on January 09, 2017, 07:17:23 PM
That is 100% for a person that is not new to working out. That dude knows his shit though!
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: anthrax on January 09, 2017, 07:23:25 PM
for several winters/springs in a row i did the original P90X.  it totally kicked my butt into shape, and i highly recommend it for anyone wanting to make a change.  it was perfect for those crappy cold months (january-march) when i didn't have much else going on.  then when the warmer weather hit i was totally prepared for long hikes, bike rides, etc.  the big knock on it was its intense time commitment...60-90 minutes a day, 6 days a week for 90 days.  the newer P90X-3 broke things down into nice 30 minute daily routines, but obviously you don't get the same results...it's more of a routine to maintain.

Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: Gundo on January 09, 2017, 08:12:55 PM
1-1.5 hours/ 6 days a week is pretty excessive in my opinion. The endurance aspect of P90x is nice
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: PIE-GUY on January 09, 2017, 10:51:46 PM
P90x is what Gordo was doing for a couple of  years there. Judging by his paunch on New Years he hasn't been keeping it up.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: JPhishman on January 10, 2017, 01:04:13 AM
But the real question is..... What is your go-to Phish workout track?


I often go with 6/11/94 DWD.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: Gundo on January 10, 2017, 01:23:12 AM
For a while there I would put on the Funky Bitch from the 11/22/94 show that was recently released. Put me in the zone. Also a lot of Character Zero, Carini, and Saw it Again

Also a lot of The Gun Club  :samurai:

Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: VDB on January 10, 2017, 09:58:11 AM
A Live One gets the job done pretty well.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on January 10, 2017, 02:39:26 PM
Quote from: VDB on January 10, 2017, 09:58:11 AM
A Live One gets the job done pretty well.

THIS.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: fastfingers12 on January 10, 2017, 05:29:57 PM
I usually listen to heavier stuff when I'm lifting. Like AIC, RATM, and Tool. When I hit cardio though, I love throwing on 12/11/97 DWD  :phish: :music:
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: mbw on January 10, 2017, 10:59:23 PM
I cant think of two things i would like to do less than work out and listen to character 0, much less at the same time.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: Superfreakie on January 10, 2017, 11:09:49 PM
I've lifted on and off for about 9 years, the time off mostly due to a couple injuries that sidelined me or work commitments. That said, I'm back lifting again after a serious bout of tendinitis in my wrists. Prior this injury, I suffered an inguinal hernia from squatting (easy surgery, super fast recovery), and prior that I all but separated my shoulder while flat benching after being away for 4 weeks and trying to lift what I had before I left. This was the most painful, as it shredded the five ligaments that hold down the scapula to the size of fine fishing line. However, being that none snapped, I opted for no surgery and instead endured the long wait for them to thicken again (took over a year, but as good as new now). The injuries can be chalked up to stupidity (shoulder), genetics (hernia), and impatience/not enough work on smaller groups (wrists).

My program right now is your classic lifting regimen as it has always worked for me. I work out six days a week with the seventh day off:

Mon: Chest, Tris, Shoulders
Tues: Bis, Forearms, Wrists, Back
Wed: Legs
Thur: Chest, Tris, Shoulders
Fri: Bis, Forearms, Wrists, Back
Sat: Legs
Sun: REST

I do core exercises everyday.
I'll post the exercises and sets next.
     
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: JPhishman on January 10, 2017, 11:13:15 PM
Quote from: mbw on January 10, 2017, 10:59:23 PM
I cant think of two things i would like to do less than work out and listen to character 0, much less at the same time.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: GBL on January 10, 2017, 11:24:03 PM
How much do you bench bro?
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: Gundo on January 11, 2017, 01:00:50 AM
Quote from: mbw on January 10, 2017, 10:59:23 PM
I cant think of two things i would like to do less than work out and listen to character 0, much less at the same time.
To each his own.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: Guyute on January 16, 2017, 09:34:14 AM
Not weightlifting, but for the weight loss and fitness I did insanity.  Dropped 110 pounds doing that and eating well.  Been a stressful year and I gave back 25 so starting back on my hardcore regiment now. 

You don't need cardio to lose weight, lifting can do that. But it is good to mix it in for heart health. 
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: VDB on January 17, 2017, 02:53:57 PM
Quote from: Guyute on January 16, 2017, 09:34:14 AM
Not weightlifting, but for the weight loss and fitness I did insanity.  Dropped 110 pounds doing that and eating well.  Been a stressful year and I gave back 25 so starting back on my hardcore regiment now. 

You don't need cardio to lose weight, lifting can do that. But it is good to mix it in for heart health.

Wow, nice job!
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: zimbra on January 18, 2017, 12:45:53 AM
I love lifting weights and occasionally cardio but I've never been extremely cut nor bulky. I'm the type of guy that binge diets/excercises when I start to get uncomfortable with my weight then just go back to the required lifting. I only do this so I can eat pizza on Saturday night at 2 AM after the a night out and still fit into my slim cut shirts.

I've recently started going at 5:00 in the morning before work and it makes the work day so much better. Especially the 12-14 hour days at the office.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: jam> on January 18, 2017, 08:31:20 AM
Quote from: Superfreakie on January 10, 2017, 11:09:49 PM

I do core exercises everyday.
I'll post the exercises and sets next.
     

Not a weights guy, but this I'm interested in.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: Guyute on January 23, 2017, 01:31:44 PM
Quote from: zimbra on January 18, 2017, 12:45:53 AM
I love lifting weights and occasionally cardio but I've never been extremely cut nor bulky. I'm the type of guy that binge diets/excercises when I start to get uncomfortable with my weight then just go back to the required lifting. I only do this so I can eat pizza on Saturday night at 2 AM after the a night out and still fit into my slim cut shirts.

I've recently started going at 5:00 in the morning before work and it makes the work day so much better. Especially the 12-14 hour days at the office.

I do the same thing, 5-5:15 workout 5 days a week.  6am on Saturday.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: zimbra on January 23, 2017, 07:23:57 PM
Quote from: Guyute on January 23, 2017, 01:31:44 PM
Quote from: zimbra on January 18, 2017, 12:45:53 AM
I love lifting weights and occasionally cardio but I've never been extremely cut nor bulky. I'm the type of guy that binge diets/excercises when I start to get uncomfortable with my weight then just go back to the required lifting. I only do this so I can eat pizza on Saturday night at 2 AM after the a night out and still fit into my slim cut shirts.

I've recently started going at 5:00 in the morning before work and it makes the work day so much better. Especially the 12-14 hour days at the office.

I do the same thing, 5-5:15 workout 5 days a week.  6am on Saturday.

That is impressive. When you first started this regiment did it take you awhile to get used to the 5 AM?  I seem to get a few in a week then really struggle the rest of the days.

Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: sls.stormyrider on January 23, 2017, 08:51:36 PM
the key (sounds obvious) is to get to bed earlier. I used to be out by 10 - 10:30 and had no problem being out the door by 5. Now, I'm up until 11 or so, getting out by 5:30 can be tough
I'm also 15 years older now
It takes a few weeks to shift your body over, after that it's no problem
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: VDB on January 25, 2017, 12:01:39 AM
There was a brief period of time, long ago, when a friend and I would hit the gym before dawn. I've never been a morning person, so the waking up was always the hardest part, but it sure did make the rest of the day feel pretty good.

Nowadays I have precious little reason or motivation to even attempt such a thing, so I tip my hat to those who do. (Except I get to stay up as late as I want drinking beer and farting around on the internet! Yeah yeah!)
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: Buffalo Budd on January 25, 2017, 07:34:37 AM
Quote from: jam> on January 18, 2017, 08:31:20 AM
Quote from: Superfreakie on January 10, 2017, 11:09:49 PM

I do core exercises everyday.
I'll post the exercises and sets next.
     

Not a weights guy, but this I'm interested in.

This is what I do. Planks, pushups, situps, curls and some chin-ups most days along with stretching.
Down 10 lbs, hoping to drop another 10 or so by the time I'm done.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: McGrupp on January 30, 2017, 11:54:47 AM
Quote from: JPhishman on January 10, 2017, 01:04:13 AM
But the real question is..... What is your go-to Phish workout track?


I often go with 6/11/94 DWD.

otherwise known as the most raging DWD of all time, my dude!
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: Augustus on January 30, 2017, 12:51:32 PM
What'd I miss?!?

I run a bit, so I'm all about corework.
Trying to stretch more than I do this year (~30min now) and more weighted lower back stuff.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: Gundo on January 30, 2017, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: Augustus on January 30, 2017, 12:51:32 PM
What'd I miss?!?

I run a bit, so I'm all about corework.
Trying to stretch more than I do this year (~30min now) and more weighted lower back stuff.
My favorite weight lifting exercise is the deadlift. If you've never tried it, you should look into deadlifting. Great exercise for the core, lower back, and most of all hamstrings. 

I'm terrible with stretching/ warm up. I try to add it into my gym schedule, but sometimes I just don't have the patience or I'm running behind that day. It does make a difference as you get older.
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: PIE-GUY on January 30, 2017, 01:08:10 PM
I do a lot of 12-16 oz curls
Title: Re: Weight Lifting/Training and Diet Thread
Post by: kellerb on January 30, 2017, 01:32:59 PM
Quote from: PGLHAH on January 30, 2017, 01:08:10 PM
I do a lot of 12-16 oz curls

"6-pack?  I got a keg, baby!"