Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?

[mbw]

FUCK

Yep.  A lynching thrown in for good measure too.

I don't know what that means but it's cynical as fuck, dude.

It means a dude was lynched in Atlanta

http://m.ajc.com/news/news/local/police-body-found-in-piedmont-park-a-suicide-victi/nrtJq/

the scene was consistent with a suicide

Everything we have seen suggests that there was no foul play involved

Up to 10 DPD officers shot, 3 dead BTW.

Black dudes always hang themselves from trees in the south.  But i mean, if the cops say so...

[PIE-GUY]

Sniper situation in Dallas is fucked. I'm on the side of peace always. Apparently they've got the shooter trapped in a building in a standoff right now.

Fucking guns. Too many fucking guns. 

[ytowndan]

Fucking guns. Too many fucking guns.

Yep.  Something really needs to be done...but it won't, of course. 

[runawayjimbo]

FUCK

Yep.  A lynching thrown in for good measure too.

I don't know what that means but it's cynical as fuck, dude.

It means a dude was lynched in Atlanta

http://m.ajc.com/news/news/local/police-body-found-in-piedmont-park-a-suicide-victi/nrtJq/

the scene was consistent with a suicide

Everything we have seen suggests that there was no foul play involved

Up to 10 DPD officers shot, 3 dead BTW.

Black dudes always hang themselves from trees in the south.  But i mean, if the cops say so...

Yup. And when a black dude dies in the south, it's obviously because they are all sister-fucking, dumb as rocks, lynching mother fuckers down there. But I mean, if Daily Kos says so...

[rowjimmy]

[mattstick]

The 2nd amendment and gun lobby are bullshit obstacles to a very serious problem.  Figure it out.

[PIE-GUY]

The 2nd amendment and gun lobby are bullshit obstacles to a very serious problem.  Figure it out.

no offense, but you have fairly similar access to guns up there in Canadia with nowhere near the gun violence problem. Our issues are much deeper than the 2nd amendment.

[Buffalo Budd]

The 2nd amendment and gun lobby are bullshit obstacles to a very serious problem.  Figure it out.

no offense, but you have fairly similar access to guns up there in Canadia with nowhere near the gun violence problem. Our issues are much deeper than the 2nd amendment.

While I agree with you PG in part on this, Canadians have much stricter gun laws in that we can't obtain assault rifles. Registered gun owners can't carry hand guns around unless they are going straight to the gun range (as in can't even stop to grab a coffee or fill the tank with gas on the way). Every gun has to be under lock and key at your residence when not in use. There are quite a few safeguards put in place.

[mattstick]

Maybe, but you'll never know if these are deeper problems until you cut off easy access to firearms.

[PIE-GUY]

Still, the problems we're facing are so much deeper than the 2nd Amendment. Yes, we should enact much much stricter gun regulations. Not arguing against that at all. In fact I will always argue FOR that.

But there will never be a time that our police officers are not armed. Far more urgent than gun control laws is a need to train cops NOT TO USE those weapons quite so readily. It's insane.

Marvin Gaye sang about "trigger happy policing" in 1971. This is not a new issue.

[runawayjimbo]

The 2nd amendment and gun lobby are bullshit obstacles to a very serious problem.  Figure it out.

no offense, but you have fairly similar access to guns up there in Canadia with nowhere near the gun violence problem. Our issues are much deeper than the 2nd amendment.

What he said.

Far more urgent than gun control laws is a need to train cops NOT TO USE those weapons quite so readily. It's insane.

Marvin Gaye sang about "trigger happy policing" in 1971. This is not a new issue.

Him too.

[Buffalo Budd]

Still, the problems we're facing are so much deeper than the 2nd Amendment. Yes, we should enact much much stricter gun regulations. Not arguing against that at all. In fact I will always argue FOR that.

But there will never be a time that our police officers are not armed. Far more urgent than gun control laws is a need to train cops NOT TO USE those weapons quite so readily. It's insane.

Marvin Gaye sang about "trigger happy policing" in 1971. This is not a new issue.

I agree 100% PG. I will also point out that I was totally dumbfounded that one of these victims happened to have a pistol in his pocket. That just seems so foreign to me. I get it, 2nd amendment and all that, but I just don't see the point. It would be unnerving to me every time I'm out, some dude who loses his shit could have the option of pulling a gun on me or my family. It just doesn't compute.
None of this is to say the officer handled that situation properly, trust me.

[emay]

Wait, so more people carrying around guns isnt making us safer? Its actually doing the opposite?



TIME TO WAKE UP


Didnt see any NRA reps go rush to defend those two African Americans rights to carry guns when one even had a carry permit....backwards ass system

[PIE-GUY]

Well, yeah - carrying a weapon with you in the car or wherever is strange to me, too. I can't imagine doing it. I know many people in Texas who do, though... and they will tell you that when they get pulled over they do EXACTLY what Philando Castile did. They tell the officer immediately that they have a licensed firearm in the car. It's what you're SUPPOSED to do.

[emay]

Yeah and his right to bear arms (and a complete dumbass of a cop) pretty much contributed to his death.

Thought this article was interesting

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/alton-sterling-philando-castile-2nd-amendment-guns/490301/