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Re: Sopranos- The Last Season
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2007, 01:22:46 PM »
what from his past IS going to fuck him?

his diet?

Its early but I look for Tony to bang his son's gf. 

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Re: Sopranos- The Last Season
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2007, 04:01:17 PM »
Its interesting to see Tony blow almost 200K in one episode, schmuck! :samurai:

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Re: Sopranos- The Last EPISODE..
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2007, 11:35:18 PM »
anyone catch the "Final" episode?

if so,

what did you think?
were you satisfied with it?
do you think the show is really done 4eva??

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Re: Sopranos- The Last Season
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2007, 11:38:14 PM »
I'm not quite sure...
Definitely not what I was expecting.

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Re: Sopranos- The Last Season
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2007, 02:47:09 AM »
SPOILER!!!!!!
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I think that it ended the way that it was there was so much speculation as to how it was going to end and everyone was making such a big deal how it was going to end that what was actually show left it up to the viewer to decide, did the guy in the member's only jacket come out shooting, did the blacks guys who walked in just before Meadow kill Tony or did nothing happen and life just went back to normal.  I vote for the last.
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Re: Sopranos- The Last Season
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2007, 11:43:30 AM »
...or will we find out in a full length feature film someday?

another thought i had was maybe a HUGE comeback in 5 to 10 years.

like a 2nd generation version to find out what the younger characters are doing with their lives and the family business.

..like (obviously A.J.) and the baby grand twins in the back...

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Re: Sopranos- The Last Season
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2007, 01:13:26 PM »
movie yes, spinoff series, no

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Re: Sopranos- The Last Season
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2007, 01:36:46 PM »
I think many were dissapointed with the ending to the serise. But what we must remember is that show is called "The Sopranos" its about the Soprano family. Tony is the main character and he happens to be the boss of the crime family that runs new jersey. All the Mafia stuff is just fluff for the show. This whole last episode focused mainly on Tony, his wife, his sister, and his kids. He also finally went to face junior. The way I see it, the director just took a section out of the life of Tony Soprano, maybe he ended his "section" in a bad spot....or was it the best spot?
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Re: Sopranos- The Last Season
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2007, 01:54:35 PM »
i thought it was brilliant. who got whacked at the end? WE DID. david chase whacked the audience. i love it.

the whole show has always been about denying us what we want.

and it's always been about how people never change. they just drove that home all the way through this episode. A.J. was suicidal over the world at large, the only character in the show who really paid any attention to a world outside jersey, and then at the end-- his parents bribe him with a new car and a job working on a crap movie funded by porn producing gangsters. meadow tells tony she's being a lawyer to protect people like tony, because she's seen him dragged away in handcuffs so often, instead of being just another doctor. paulie left sitting in front of the pork store, with no life at all but to serve tony, just like always. in the presence of a shrink, tony reflexively starts talking about his issues with his mother-- right where he was at the start of season one.

lots of awesome little touches. A.J. saying how grear bob dylans' 'it's allright ma i'm only bleeding is' just before his car blows up and the cd melts. a fiery SUV eating bob dylan's music. there's an image.

the FBI guy who feels like he's on tony's side.

that last scene was great. they built so much tension just by cutting to a couple of suspicious characters entering the diner, and meadow strangely unable to park her car. the cheesy journey song with the lyrics 'when a movie never ends it goes on and on and on...." and then, we got whacked. what happens when a character gets whacked? they end, but everyone else in the show just goes back to their lives.

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Re: Sopranos- The Last Season
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2007, 01:55:20 PM »
i was glad Tony survived, well in my mind he did.  alot of theorists are saying it was T's death thats why the screen went black and silent.  it goes back to tony and bobbys conversation on the lake earlier in the season.  Also whats up with that stupid cat?  Big Pussy reincarnated?

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Re: Sopranos- The Last Season
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2007, 02:01:48 PM »
the cheesy journey song with the lyrics 'when a movie never ends it goes on and on and on...."

If by cheesy you mean AWSOME, then the song is called Don't Stop Believin'

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Re: Sopranos- The Last Season
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2007, 02:17:12 PM »
i thought it was brilliant. who got whacked at the end? WE DID. david chase whacked the audience. i love it.

the whole show has always been about denying us what we want.

and it's always been about how people never change. they just drove that home all the way through this episode. A.J. was suicidal over the world at large, the only character in the show who really paid any attention to a world outside jersey, and then at the end-- his parents bribe him with a new car and a job working on a crap movie funded by porn producing gangsters. meadow tells tony she's being a lawyer to protect people like tony, because she's seen him dragged away in handcuffs so often, instead of being just another doctor. paulie left sitting in front of the pork store, with no life at all but to serve tony, just like always. in the presence of a shrink, tony reflexively starts talking about his issues with his mother-- right where he was at the start of season one.

lots of awesome little touches. A.J. saying how grear bob dylans' 'it's allright ma i'm only bleeding is' just before his car blows up and the cd melts. a fiery SUV eating bob dylan's music. there's an image.

the FBI guy who feels like he's on tony's side.

that last scene was great. they built so much tension just by cutting to a couple of suspicious characters entering the diner, and meadow strangely unable to park her car. the cheesy journey song with the lyrics 'when a movie never ends it goes on and on and on...." and then, we got whacked. what happens when a character gets whacked? they end, but everyone else in the show just goes back to their lives.


Excellent review!

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Re: Sopranos- The Last Season
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2007, 02:29:31 PM »
Excellent review!


Agreed, good summation. (is that even a word.)

I was pissed last night because I wanted to see an all-out with NY. But then i started thinkning about the ending, and realized that the show was never about the Mob. It was about an insecure little boy who just happened to run North Jersey.

At the end of the show, Tony was in the diner waiting. At that point he had no enemys, we dont know if he was gonig to testify, but in essence NY was done. But yet, no matter how great is professional or personal life was going, he always had to worry and look over his shoulder.

Things dont change for anyone.

I would hate to see a spin-off series because AJ is a douche.


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Re: Sopranos- The Last Season
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2007, 04:02:58 PM »
movie yes, spinoff series, no

is that your prediction or a vote?



also:
it's great to read all of your different thoughts and reactions to the episode. i love how almost everyone here (and that i've spoken with) has had a different opinion on the outcome. that right there is a tell-tale sign of a great piece of classic art. plenty of food for thought, as the entire series was from the beginning.

throughout the entire episode there was no shortage of symbolism, anticipation, and drama. complex issues were present (as always) but at the same time i felt a simplicity theme. at first i was a little stunned, but as i had some time to let it sink in i thought it was a classy way to go.

well done.
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Re: Sopranos- The Last Season
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2007, 04:44:02 PM »
although ultimately the ending will necessarily remain ambiguous, after further thought i'm convinced that tony is dead.

in the first episode of the season, with tony and bobby in the boat, they talk about being killed, and bobby says something about how you never see it coming and everything just goes black. and tony recalls this conversation in the penultimate episode lying on the bed.

then there's the bizarre edit i forgot about at the start of the diner scene. it's right out of 2001, actually. tony looks into the diner-- we are looking at tony's face-- then we cut to what he's seeing: himself, seated at the table. that's a very weird thing to do, so why? because for this scene, we the audience are now tony.

the tension builds, and finally, abruptly, tony looks up to see who's coming in the door-- we assume meadow, but we don't see who it is-- and we cut to black. not to the credits, but a solid ten seconds of black silence. as i said before, WE have been whacked, but in this scene, we have been set up to be tony.

so tony's dead. the whole show was about him. it was, effectively, all from his perspective, it was all his world, and the only way his world can end is when he ends. for him, and by extension for us, there is nothing more. there is no more sopranos.