Which one summer 09 show would you recommend to a skeptic?

[sophist]

I would look here.  This is my post from that thread. 

Hartford
Gorge 1
SPAC
Gorge 2
RR3
RR2
RR4
Shoreline
RR1
AV2
DC
Camden
AV1
Knoxville
Asheville
JB2
Boston
Darien
roo2
JB3
St. Louis
JB1
roo 1
MPP
Chicago
Mansfield

The top 5 are very good shows, and have few flubs. 

[Alumni]

I agree. I meant the Page comment as a compliment; the man's playing sounds better than it has in years.

I remember reading good things about that 2nd set of Red Rocks2, I'll add that to the list.

Basically, with no real idea where to start, I picked the two shows I had planned on seeing (Asheville & Knoxville). They didn't seem bad, but from chatter on websites like this one, I definitely got the impression that there were some better choices out there... 

[susep]

I would say 19June09, nice second set w/ a first set The Connection taboot!!!!

[mbw]

i acutally kinda get the light situation you mention.  although i dont think there is any relation to the two, i did think a few times this summer that the lights were too good for the music that was being produced...

lipstick on a pig'd

[mattstick]

After listening for a while I don't really think anything can top the Gorge or Red Rocks from '09.

[antelope19]

After listening for a while I don't really think anything can top the Gorge or Red Rocks from '09.

I can agree with this statement.

[WhatstheUse?]

i acutally kinda get the light situation you mention.  although i dont think there is any relation to the two, i did think a few times this summer that the lights were too good for the music that was being produced...

lipstick on a pig'd

Someone should tell Kuroda to suck a little bit more when the band is sucking.

kinda know what you mean though..... there were times this summer when phish did the same generic rock peak that they did the last show, nothing particularly special, but the lights would be so crazy and intense that the crowd would always go nuts when the big white lights went on

[ytowndan]

After listening for a while I don't really think anything can top the Gorge or Red Rocks from '09.

I can agree with this statement.

3rd'd

[Alumni]

Someone should tell Kuroda to suck a little bit more when the band is sucking.

kinda know what you mean though..... there were times this summer when phish did the same generic rock peak that they did the last show, nothing particularly special, but the lights would be so crazy and intense that the crowd would always go nuts when the big white lights went on

I've only seen a couple Youtube vids, so take it w/ a large grain of salt.

But they were good quality, and I got the impression that the crowd was way more keyed into Kuroda's work than the band's. That's just wrong. I love the guy, and I'm not saying those things never happened "back in the day," but . . . . it's just kinda weird to see the band struggle to keep up with Kuroda, rather than the other way 'round. I think he could probably take the lights down from 11 to 7 or 8, and make those zOMG! Teh Lights! moments mean more.  :-) $.02

[WhatstheUse?]

Kuroda is clearly too good for phish.

He should probably go back to working w/ R. Kelly.

[sprobeck]

I agree. I meant the Page comment as a compliment; the man's playing sounds better than it has in years.

I remember reading good things about that 2nd set of Red Rocks2, I'll add that to the list.

Basically, with no real idea where to start, I picked the two shows I had planned on seeing (Asheville & Knoxville). They didn't seem bad, but from chatter on websites like this one, I definitely got the impression that there were some better choices out there...

The Drowned to open the set is outstanding!

[mbw]

i acutally kinda get the light situation you mention.  although i dont think there is any relation to the two, i did think a few times this summer that the lights were too good for the music that was being produced...

lipstick on a pig'd

Someone should tell Kuroda to suck a little bit more when the band is sucking.

kinda know what you mean though..... there were times this summer when phish did the same generic rock peak that they did the last show, nothing particularly special, but the lights would be so crazy and intense that the crowd would always go nuts when the big white lights went on

yeah, thats what i was referring to.  kinda like a play with an awesome set design, yet poorly acted.

[sprobeck]

I'd rather have an awesome design than not an awesome design.

[mehead]

After listening for a while I don't really think anything can top the Gorge or Red Rocks from '09.

I can agree with this statement.

[Alumni]

Been listening a little bit to the Gorge shows, and I think I can tell what folks are talking about. It does seem like there's a little more creativity and confidence than what I heard previously from this summer.

Still not sure what I think of Phish 3.0...

Better than 04? Yeah, from what I've heard, I'd say that. Better than 03? Jury's out. Once I got over myself and let myself listen to PH Phish, I found a handful of shows I enjoyed. I'll have a better idea after hearing the 4 RR shows (and Deer Creek and Hartford), but I'm inclined to say 3.0 is closer to 03 than anything else before...