Phish 06/17/2011 Verizon Wireless Amphitheater, Charlotte, NC
Soundcheck: Dog Log, Blues Jam (Funky Bitch teased before Dog Log)
Set I: Mike's Song > I am Hydrogen > Weekapaug, Bouncin Around the Room, NICU, Sample in a Jar, Col. Forbins Ascent* > Fly Famous Mockingbird, Axilla I, Wolfman's Brother, Scent of a Mule, Stealing Time from the Faulty Plan
Set II: Backwards Down the Number Line, Rock and Roll > Ghost > Free, Reba, Icculus, HYHU > Bike > HYHU, Chalkdust Torture, YEM
Encore: Wilson, Loving Cup
*without narration
Quote from: nakedpa on June 17, 2011, 11:12:55 PM
damn you, free!
well at least we something to flame about this show
its sad that free is a throw away tune. used to be mah fav......
Hayyyyy....
Phish played a show tonight.
Thoughts?
wish they didnt 'jam' forbins, icculus, bike into the same show, especially since none of them were very good.
How did the Ghost sound?
Quote from: Undermind on June 17, 2011, 11:24:49 PM
How did the Ghost sound?
sounded great while it lasted but...
the end of Reba sounded very tight through the sharts
So far I see no reason not to listen to this show at least once.
All they needed was a Zero or TTE at the end of that first set...
T
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on June 17, 2011, 11:37:24 PM
All they needed was a Zero or TTE at the end of that first set...
T
A possum and a BOABH would have been cool
http://goo.gl/3gDaL
Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on June 17, 2011, 11:37:24 PM
All they needed was a Zero or TTE at the end of that first set...
T
didnt zero end the set?
ohh, wait.....
Quote from: SophistRnR > ghost was very good.
Haven't heard it yet but should I even bother going to Raleigh
Quote from: barnesy305 on June 17, 2011, 11:47:53 PM
Haven't heard it yet but should I even bother going to Raleigh
RAL is going to be the Business...
Unless it rains...
Terry
Quote from: barnesy305 on June 17, 2011, 11:47:53 PM
Haven't heard it yet but should I even bother going to Raleigh
Go.
Blat needs a bro on the ride.
Quote from: barnesy305 on June 17, 2011, 11:47:53 PM
Haven't heard it yet but should I even bother going to Raleigh
dude.
first show since DTE this tour that I waited up to hear! kind of excited!
Quote from: blatboom on June 17, 2011, 11:58:48 PM
Quote from: barnesy305 on June 17, 2011, 11:47:53 PM
Haven't heard it yet but should I even bother going to Raleigh
dude.
I'm still going man, just fucking around...kinda.
I really wanted that YEM. and Ghost. got Icculus already and no way they topped Hartford. other than that don't feel like I missed too much on paper
I'll admit that I was thinking about Raleigh just today.
But not serially.
Quote from: blatboom on June 18, 2011, 12:10:21 AM
I really wanted that YEM. and Ghost. got Icculus already and no way they topped Hartford. other than that don't feel like I missed too much on paper
that is my most fav icculus ever. i think.
no, not really. but its good.
it's up there, there's no doubting it.
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 18, 2011, 12:12:11 AM
I'll admit that I was thinking about Raleigh just today.
But not serially.
dude!
Quote from: blatboom on June 18, 2011, 12:14:17 AM
it's up there, there's no doubting it.
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 18, 2011, 12:12:11 AM
I'll admit that I was thinking about Raleigh just today.
But not serially.
dude!
For real.
I have to work on my house.
Restorations require work.
responsible RJ is responsible.
Quote from: blatboom on June 18, 2011, 12:17:21 AM
responsible RJ is responsible.
I will paint 2-4 windows and drink approx 2-4 beers per.
Then it will be evening.
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 17, 2011, 11:45:38 PM
Quote from: SophistRnR > ghost was very good.
This is true.
How was Forbin/mockingbird?
Forbins>bird and Icculus in the same show?
Ive been there and done that already. :-P
Still kinda excited though
Truly, everyone should skip Raleigh... I'm not even sure why I'm going, but I guess I have to - its only 10 min. down the road...
Terry
What??? Did everyone go lame all of a sudden???
Terry
Just got into Denver for my Sisters wedding tmrw. Got pretty excited when I turned on my phone and saw the Forbins Ghost and Ikki action. Gonna have to DL and give a few tracks a whirl before bed.
:rawk:
:phish:
Hopefully there's some better videos on the way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5qTfdXZY9g
So...if last night was like 08-14-2009, is tonight gonna be the 08-15-2009 show?
Scent of a Mule! MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!!!!
Also, truly *LUV* the newly re-worked intro to Mike's Song.
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 18, 2011, 06:01:52 AM
So...if last night was like 08-14-2009, is tonight gonna be the 08-15-2009 show?
if so ill be glad im missing it this time.
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 17, 2011, 11:30:19 PM
So far I see no reason not to listen to this show at least once.
I feel the same way. I'll go put on Hartford '09.
Pumped to hear this. It has brought back my interest after a few lackluster nights.
nice ghost last night
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 18, 2011, 12:18:51 AM
Quote from: blatboom on June 18, 2011, 12:17:21 AM
responsible RJ is responsible.
I will paint 2-4 windows and drink approx 2-4 beers per.
Then it will be evening.
Let me give you a page from my book....
Hire some dudes to do this and then go out of town! When I come back it will be done and you will have seen Phish.
It was great meeting :wtu: and seeing GoodAboutHood again at the show.
Afterwards, I had to keep telling my friends that "I don't have anything bad to say about the show, but I don't want to fluff the show I went to!!!"
Good shit from beginning to end. The band literally couldn't lose with that song selection, and everything sounded super awesome. Good times were had by all!.
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 18, 2011, 09:40:38 AM
It was great meeting :wtu: and seeing GoodAboutHood again at the show.
Afterwards, I had to keep telling my friends that "I don't have anything bad to say about the show, but I don't want to fluff the show I went to!!!"
Good shit from beginning to end. The band literally couldn't lose with that song selection, and everything sounded super awesome. Good times were had by all!.
Fluffer :-P
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 18, 2011, 06:01:52 AM
So...if last night was like 08-14-2009, is tonight gonna be the 08-15-2009 show?
:x :x :x :x
(thought this exact thing)
Quote from: phil on June 18, 2011, 08:46:08 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 17, 2011, 11:30:19 PM
So far I see no reason not to listen to this show at least once.
I feel the same way. I'll go put on Hartford '09.
HEY-O
Quote from: blatboom on June 18, 2011, 10:25:25 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 18, 2011, 06:01:52 AM
So...if last night was like 08-14-2009, is tonight gonna be the 08-15-2009 show?
:x :x :x :x
(thought this exact thing)
Sweet.
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 18, 2011, 09:40:38 AM
It was great meeting :wtu: and seeing GoodAboutHood again at the show.
Afterwards, I had to keep telling my friends that "I don't have anything bad to say about the show, but I don't want to fluff the show I went to!!!"
Good shit from beginning to end. The band literally couldn't lose with that song selection, and everything sounded super awesome. Good times were had by all!.
I felt after the first set that they were uninspired and tame. The second set made me feel better about the show, but I am easily influenced by Icculus, Reba and Ghost, especially in the same set. I had a great time, and the crew I was with thought it was really good. I need to give it another listen to grade it, but my just-woke-up-and-got-some-bacon-in-me opinion is that it was a B-. See y'all in Raleigh!
Pardon me boy? Is that the Chatanooga Choo Choo? J/K, the parts of the second set I heard last night were great! But I still like this picture:
The reason that Mike's Song opening sounds so god awful is because trey was playing the opening with the "Mike's Groove" sign hanging from his mouth.
It was pretty funny, but yeah, listening to the opening to Mike's Song sounds pretty awful. I thought the Mike's "jam" and the weekapaug more than made up for it.
NICU and *gasp* Sample both sounded pretty inspired, imo. I don't know how you couldn't have thought that first set was very exciting, seriously. Great song selection, and everything sounded "upbeat" and "fun". I highly enjoyed the first set, and didn't think the second set would live up to the excitement I felt during intermission.
I had a GREAT time last night. Getting an Icculus after the Number line, Ghost,Free, REBA! run was pretty much the icing on the cake. Icculus didn't make the set, but it did accent it very nicely.
Trey stayed away from the Whole Tone Scale last night, which I really like and there wasn't a moment where the band didn't have me fully engaged the entire night. Definitely no bathroom songs for me. It was good solid, Phish nostalgia. I hope they can keep the momentum going the whole weekend and you guys get some great shows in Raleigh and Portsmouth.
'so i went out with mike last night....and....uh......read the fucking book....i uh.....i don't know what else to say....'
fail.
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 18, 2011, 11:26:13 AM
Trey stayed away from the Whole Tone Scale last night
It's in there.
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 18, 2011, 11:26:49 AM
'so i went out with mike last night....and....uh......read the fucking book....i uh.....i don't know what else to say....'
fail.
I thought it was a cute fail, at the time, but yeah total brain fart right there, that was semi cringe enducing.
It's funny, if I had been pedicabbing last night, I might have had them for a customer.
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 18, 2011, 11:28:12 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 18, 2011, 11:26:13 AM
Trey stayed away from the Whole Tone Scale last night
It's in there.
Damn. I'm 3/4 of the way through the first set, and I hadn't heard it crop up yet.
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 18, 2011, 11:28:12 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 18, 2011, 11:26:13 AM
Trey stayed away from the Whole Tone Scale last night
It's in there.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_k4aCsF4vXvs/SRNWScsdYbI/AAAAAAAAArM/a4GXXav7QGs/s400/prego1.jpg)
Sort of dug on this Weekapaugh.. pretty solid rendition... :music:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/255731_10150203966596290_6458611289_7525768_3314130_n.jpg)
I think they nicely made up for Alph 2. High energy show, no real setlist letdowns. Looking forward to giving another listen to the jamming in RnR and Ghost.
the recap on phish.net
http://blog.phish.net/1308418312/rocky-in-dixie-charlotte-recap
I guess I don't really get the love for the R&R and Ghost here. It was pretty meh to me after 2 listens.
Quote from: aphineday on June 18, 2011, 04:06:50 PM
I guess I don't really get the love for the R&R and Ghost here. It was pretty meh to me after 2 listens.
Yeah... It wasn't horrible... But, didn't do much for me.
I haven't listened to the RnR or ghost yet, but how does this show stack up verses others of the tour for you?
Quote from: aphineday on June 18, 2011, 04:06:50 PM
I guess I don't really get the love for the R&R and Ghost here. It was pretty meh to me after 2 listens.
Yes!! The message I want to send the band here or the point I'm trying to make, is that your jams suck nowadays, why do you even bother trying to jam anymore, when you do jam, I find your jams to be very inadequate, and if anyone says a possitive thing about them, I will shoot them down on that thought immediately...
But do you want to know what pisses me off even more is the fact that you don't jam anymore, it's like, I would be happy if you would at least attempt some type II jamming in your shows, because then maybe you might re-find your way into some nicer deep exploration, and the other thing I want to point out is that playing 7 minute and 44 second Ghost's like the one at PNC is completely unacceptable...
And just so you know aphineday, this post does not represent anything that I think of you personally, just trying to make a point. Actually most of your posts are pretty middle of the road, and are just a fair representation of how you feel, being both good things and bad... Not just pure continuous hatred.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on June 18, 2011, 02:27:46 PM
I think they nicely made up for Alph 2. High energy show, no real setlist letdowns. Looking forward to giving another listen to the jamming in RnR and Ghost.
Replace "alph 2" with "Darien" and "RnR" with "wilson" or "Slave" and this post could be from the 8/14/09 post show discussion and review thread.
No offense to VDB, and I hate that I'm hating but that's just the first thing that popped in my head when I read that post.
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on June 18, 2011, 09:25:09 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 18, 2011, 12:18:51 AM
Quote from: blatboom on June 18, 2011, 12:17:21 AM
responsible RJ is responsible.
I will paint 2-4 windows and drink approx 2-4 beers per.
Then it will be evening.
Let me give you a page from my book....
Hire some dudes to do this and then go out of town! When I come back it will be done and you will have seen Phish.
While I highly respect RJ for doing this I agree with hiring someone to do the work. I've gotten lazy since we had twins.
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on June 18, 2011, 04:56:36 PM
Quote from: aphineday on June 18, 2011, 04:06:50 PM
I guess I don't really get the love for the R&R and Ghost here. It was pretty meh to me after 2 listens.
Yes!! The message I want to send the band here or the point I'm trying to make, is that your jams suck nowadays, why do you even bother trying to jam anymore, when you do jam, I find your jams to be very inadequate, and if anyone says a possitive thing about them, I will shoot them down on that thought immediately...
But do you want to know what pisses me off even more is the fact that you don't jam anymore, it's like, I would be happy if you would at least attempt some type II jamming in your shows, because then maybe you might re-find your way into some nicer deep exploration, and the other thing I want to point out is that playing 7 minute and 44 second Ghost's like the one at PNC is completely unacceptable...
And just so you know aphineday, this post does not represent anything that I think of you personally, just trying to make a point. Actually most of your posts are pretty middle of the road, and are just a fair representation of how you feel, being both good things and bad... Not just pure continuous hatred.
Fair enough, I see your point Poster. I try to give an honest report of everything I hear. I'm not trying to be a notorious "hater", "fluffer" or anything of the sort. I just love having an honest discussion of the music, whatever it may be. That being said, I do feel a little jaded by 3.0 a lot of the time. I can't help but compare them to 1.0, etc. I get sick of hearing people say not to compare the two, because it's impossible. If you've heard a band blow your fucking mind socket once apon a time, then it's only natural to compare the two. THAT BEING SAID, they don't have to live up to that for me to love it. I'm just saying comparison is inevitable.
These versions didn't do it for me personally, if they did it for you then right on! I'm actually curious to know what people hear in these, maybe it can change my mind. It's very possible. I can't count the number of times someone has told me to go back and listen to something I either didn't hear that was great, or something I thought was great, but wasn't. Either way, it's everyone's right to have their own opinions.
As for me, I'll remain ever hopeful that they will blow my fucking mind some night soon. See you all at the LST.
Quote from: roggae on June 18, 2011, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on June 18, 2011, 09:25:09 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 18, 2011, 12:18:51 AM
Quote from: blatboom on June 18, 2011, 12:17:21 AM
responsible RJ is responsible.
I will paint 2-4 windows and drink approx 2-4 beers per.
Then it will be evening.
Let me give you a page from my book....
Hire some dudes to do this and then go out of town! When I come back it will be done and you will have seen Phish.
While I highly respect RJ for doing this I agree with hiring someone to do the work. I've gotten lazy since we had twins.
I'm saving tons of money and get the satisfaction and thrill of doing it myself.
It's not just painting, we're restoring a 90+year old house, here.
Wow.....kick ass show. Probably best of the tour so far IMO. The RR->Ghost is killer, and I really like the YEM. First set is nothing amazing, but some good versions all around. Good energy throughout the show and the band seems to really be hooking up during the Rock and Roll. Sweet encore taboot. This show will get more play around my house for sure. If I had attended, I would have been stoked.
Quote from: Caravan2001 on June 18, 2011, 06:36:36 PM
Wow.....kick ass show. Probably best of the tour so far IMO. The RR->Ghost is killer, and I really like the YEM. First set is nothing amazing, but some good versions all around. Good energy throughout the show and the band seems to really be hooking up during the Rock and Roll. Sweet encore taboot. This show will get more play around my house for sure. If I had attended, I would have been stoked.
I was at this show, and I think pine knob was better. It was a fun ass show to see, tho.
Quote from: Caravan2001 on June 18, 2011, 06:36:36 PM
The RR->Ghost is killer
indeed. finally getting around to listening to this. pretty dope.
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 18, 2011, 05:48:25 PM
Quote from: roggae on June 18, 2011, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on June 18, 2011, 09:25:09 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 18, 2011, 12:18:51 AM
Quote from: blatboom on June 18, 2011, 12:17:21 AM
responsible RJ is responsible.
I will paint 2-4 windows and drink approx 2-4 beers per.
Then it will be evening.
Let me give you a page from my book....
Hire some dudes to do this and then go out of town! When I come back it will be done and you will have seen Phish.
While I highly respect RJ for doing this I agree with hiring someone to do the work. I've gotten lazy since we had twins.
I'm saving tons of money and get the satisfaction and thrill of doing it myself.
It's not just painting, we're restoring a 90+year old house, here.
We live in a house that was originally built 100 years ago and I'd love to do some restoration especially the basement which has barely been touched and is original in most parts but I just can't bring myself to get anything done. I'm still heartbroken I had to leave my basement brewery in Madison. Hats off to you RJ.
This Icculus doesn't stack up to Hartford's, oh well, still awesome it was busted out.
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 18, 2011, 11:45:09 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on June 18, 2011, 06:36:36 PM
The RR->Ghost is killer
indeed. finally getting around to listening to this. pretty dope.
this one actually gives me hope. Seems like Fish is on, and trey is ascending.
Happy about where the band is going.
Quote from: macaronihead on June 19, 2011, 12:38:48 AM
This Icculus doesn't stack up to Hartford's, oh well, still awesome it was busted out.
I listened to three Icculuses (Icculi?) yesterday: this one, Hartford, and 10/27/94.
Not only does this Icculus not stack up, it actually falls flat on its face. Caricatures of themselves'd. They should have left Icculus out.
Having actually been to the show. The icculus was fun as shit and I'm glad they played it. I agree it's not a very good one, but the fun level was definitely at "11" during it. There's nothing they would have played in this slot that I would think would be any better. I'd much rather Icculus than Kill Devil Falls or Alaska or ocelot. Thanks.
Happy about where the band is going.
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Careful what you say. People will say you're a fluffer and a noob. Ooooh. Buncha dicks.
Quote from: Nobes on June 19, 2011, 11:14:15 AM
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Happy about where the band is going.
Careful what you say. People will say you're a fluffer and a noob. Ooooh. Buncha dicks.
How's your shitty thread going?
Oh, looks like you deleted it.
n00bes, lol.
Btw, learn how to quote.
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: Nobes on June 19, 2011, 11:14:15 AM
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Happy about where the band is going.
Careful what you say. People will say you're a fluffer and a noob. Ooooh. Buncha dicks.
How's your shitty thread going?
Oh, looks like you deleted it.
n00bes, lol.
Btw, learn how to quote.
Because that's such a valuable and important skill in life; learn to quote properly on a fucking discussion board. What the fuck is up your ass, dude? Sorry I disagree with you about the band and the music that I still enjoy.
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: Nobes on June 19, 2011, 11:14:15 AM
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Happy about where the band is going.
Careful what you say. People will say you're a fluffer and a noob. Ooooh. Buncha dicks.
How's your shitty thread going?
Oh, looks like you deleted it.
n00bes, lol.
Btw, learn how to quote.
And yeah I deleted my shitty thread. I even admitted it was shitty halfway through it. Aside from it's utter shittyness I deleted it because I'm not into being hated on for having an opinion by anyone, let alone d-bags who feel they have supreme authority over all things Phish because they claim they were at the Harris-Millis Cafeteria show in '83.
Who was at that show?!
Quote from: Nobes on June 19, 2011, 01:51:21 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 12:46:29 PM
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Happy about where the band is going.
Careful what you say. People will say you're a fluffer and a noob. Ooooh. Buncha dicks.
How's your shitty thread going?
Oh, looks like you deleted it.
n00bes, lol.
Btw, learn how to quote.
Because that's such a valuable and important skill in life; learn to quote properly on a fucking discussion board. What the fuck is up your ass, dude? Sorry I disagree with you about the band and the music that I still enjoy.
(http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/noseguy/Obama-I-Got-This.jpg)
Quote from: Nobes on June 19, 2011, 02:01:49 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: Nobes on June 19, 2011, 11:14:15 AM
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Happy about where the band is going.
Careful what you say. People will say you're a fluffer and a noob. Ooooh. Buncha dicks.
How's your shitty thread going?
Oh, looks like you deleted it.
n00bes, lol.
Btw, learn how to quote.
And yeah I deleted my shitty thread. I even admitted it was shitty halfway through it. Aside from it's utter shittyness I deleted it because I'm not into being hated on for having an opinion by anyone, let alone d-bags who feel they have supreme authority over all things Phish because they claim they were at the Harris-Millis Cafeteria show in '83.
Dude, can you un-delete for a second? I really wanted to sig Aug's "I bench 700 lbs BTW" comment.
like most 3.0 shows, the music was exquisite and juicy but i had a terrible time.
Soundcheck Footage!
http://phishvidcollection.blogspot.com/2011/06/charlotte-61711-souncheck-footage.html
Quote from: Undermind on June 20, 2011, 11:26:27 AM
Soundcheck Footage!
http://phishvidcollection.blogspot.com/2011/06/charlotte-61711-souncheck-footage.html
With the first 10 second clip I was wondering why even bother... then I realized that was just the first of many!
Listened to the Cliff's Notes version of this show yesterday:
Wolfman's, Rock and Roll> Ghost> Free, Reba.
Honestly the Ghost was my least favorite, it seemed kind of aimless and devoid of ideas until they tacked on the big rock peak at the end.
But I thought Wolfman's was pretty hott, which some fierce playing by Trey and the Reba sounded "real" to my ears.
wow I'm really digging this Ghost!!!
The start of the jam is pretty relaxed and chill, with Page taking over the piano and making it go all dancey and tinkly across the ears.
This jam is getting pretty fucking hot too.... I really dig the way it builds. Trey was exploring some really nice thematic, composed stuff; listening to the others, and the peak ending is really really fucking nice; I like how it coasts up to a just a big ball of energy, but without Trey-shred splooging that says "Th1s 15 r@wK p3@k".
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on June 20, 2011, 03:27:43 PM
wow I'm really digging this Ghost!!!
The start of the jam is pretty relaxed and chill, with Page taking over the piano and making it go all dancey and tinkly across the ears.
This jam is getting pretty fucking hot too.... I really dig the way it builds. Trey was exploring some really nice thematic, composed stuff; listening to the others, and the peak ending is really really fucking nice; I like how it coasts up to a just a big ball of energy, but without Trey-shred splooging that says "Th1s 15 r@wK p3@k".
ts;dr
I wanna find out what happened to WTU? after he went to the bathroom post Mike's Groove in the first set and also would love to know how McGrupp, Sophist and GoodAboutHood fared during the show.
Personally.
The entire show is worth listening to from beginning to end. I couldn't have picked a cooler show to see for my one timer this summer.
Weren't you the one campaigning how his band turned full on nostaglia a week ago?
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 20, 2011, 09:59:19 PM
I wanna find out what happened to WTU? after he went to the bathroom post Mike's Groove in the first set and also would love to know how McGrupp, Sophist and GoodAboutHood fared during the show.
Personally.
The entire show is worth listening to from beginning to end. I couldn't have picked a cooler show to see for my one timer this summer.
I raged the show with Qop, and wife plus my buddies Nick and Jared. We were in the pav towards the middle. I had a blast. I did a little bit of sass and had a few beers inside the venue. I'd say I raged Raleigh way harder than Charlotte. For a period of time, Scott, George, and George's woman were also with us. This bitch made us smoke her up in the first set to avoid her calling the usher over and booting us from her seats. That was weak, but whatever.
Highlights were the RnR > Ghost for me. I thought it was a solid show. Nothing epic, nothing horrible either. I thought they made huge improvements from Charlotte to Portsmouth versus how they played in Alpharetta.
We drove up Thursday evening/early Friday morning. We passed the venue at 3am on Friday. My buddy Beka has a place two minutes from the venue, so we chilled out all day and had some nice pre-show drinking going on. Highlights include an intense debate with Scott about "jamming" which cleared all the pussy out of the room faster than a '92 appearance.
Quote from: sophist on June 21, 2011, 09:02:43 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 20, 2011, 09:59:19 PM
I wanna find out what happened to WTU? after he went to the bathroom post Mike's Groove in the first set and also would love to know how McGrupp, Sophist and GoodAboutHood fared during the show.
Personally.
The entire show is worth listening to from beginning to end. I couldn't have picked a cooler show to see for my one timer this summer.
I raged the show with Qop, and wife plus my buddies Nick and Jared. We were in the pav towards the middle. I had a blast. I did a little bit of sass and had a few beers inside the venue. I'd say I raged Raleigh way harder than Charlotte. For a period of time, Scott, George, and George's woman were also with us. This bitch made us smoke her up in the first set to avoid her calling the usher over and booting us from her seats. That was weak, but whatever.
Highlights were the RnR > Ghost for me. I thought it was a solid show. Nothing epic, nothing horrible either. I thought they made huge improvements from Charlotte to Portsmouth versus how they played in Alpharetta.
We drove up Thursday evening/early Friday morning. We passed the venue at 3am on Friday. My buddy Beka has a place two minutes from the venue, so we chilled out all day and had some nice pre-show drinking going on. Highlights include an intense debate with Scott about "jamming" which cleared all the pussy out of the room faster than a '92 appearance.
wow, you just mixed memories of raleigh and charlotte into one show review. you brain-dead son of a bitch.
:wtu:
Quote from: McGrupp on June 21, 2011, 09:20:05 AM
Quote from: sophist on June 21, 2011, 09:02:43 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 20, 2011, 09:59:19 PM
I wanna find out what happened to WTU? after he went to the bathroom post Mike's Groove in the first set and also would love to know how McGrupp, Sophist and GoodAboutHood fared during the show.
Personally.
The entire show is worth listening to from beginning to end. I couldn't have picked a cooler show to see for my one timer this summer.
I raged the show with Qop, and wife plus my buddies Nick and Jared. We were in the pav towards the middle. I had a blast. I did a little bit of sass and had a few beers inside the venue. I'd say I raged Raleigh way harder than Charlotte. For a period of time, Scott, George, and George's woman were also with us. This bitch made us smoke her up in the first set to avoid her calling the usher over and booting us from her seats. That was weak, but whatever.
Highlights were the RnR > Ghost for me. I thought it was a solid show. Nothing epic, nothing horrible either. I thought they made huge improvements from Charlotte to Portsmouth versus how they played in Alpharetta.
We drove up Thursday evening/early Friday morning. We passed the venue at 3am on Friday. My buddy Beka has a place two minutes from the venue, so we chilled out all day and had some nice pre-show drinking going on. Highlights include an intense debate with Scott about "jamming" which cleared all the pussy out of the room faster than a '92 appearance.
wow, you just mixed memories of raleigh and charlotte into one show review. you brain-dead son of a bitch.
:wtu:
::rages hard enough::
Quote from: danje on June 21, 2011, 08:38:51 AM
Weren't you the one campaigning how his band turned full on nostaglia a week ago?
Shit is nostalgia as hell. But it was nostalgia worth seeing.
Quote from: sophist on June 21, 2011, 09:02:43 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 20, 2011, 09:59:19 PM
I wanna find out what happened to WTU? after he went to the bathroom post Mike's Groove in the first set and also would love to know how McGrupp, Sophist and GoodAboutHood fared during the show.
Personally.
The entire show is worth listening to from beginning to end. I couldn't have picked a cooler show to see for my one timer this summer.
I raged the show with Qop, and wife plus my buddies Nick and Jared. We were in the pav towards the middle. I had a blast. I did a little bit of sass and had a few beers inside the venue. I'd say I raged Raleigh way harder than Charlotte. For a period of time, Scott, George, and George's woman were also with us. This bitch made us smoke her up in the first set to avoid her calling the usher over and booting us from her seats. That was weak, but whatever.
Highlights were the RnR > Ghost for me. I thought it was a solid show. Nothing epic, nothing horrible either. I thought they made huge improvements from Charlotte to Portsmouth versus how they played in Alpharetta.
We drove up Thursday evening/early Friday morning. We passed the venue at 3am on Friday. My buddy Beka has a place two minutes from the venue, so we chilled out all day and had some nice pre-show drinking going on. Highlights include an intense debate with Scott about "jamming" which cleared all the pussy out of the room faster than a '92 appearance.
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
If I've seen it once I've seen it a thousand times.....
Quote from: JPhishman on June 21, 2011, 01:34:58 PM
Quote from: sophist on June 21, 2011, 09:02:43 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 20, 2011, 09:59:19 PM
I wanna find out what happened to WTU? after he went to the bathroom post Mike's Groove in the first set and also would love to know how McGrupp, Sophist and GoodAboutHood fared during the show.
Personally.
The entire show is worth listening to from beginning to end. I couldn't have picked a cooler show to see for my one timer this summer.
I raged the show with Qop, and wife plus my buddies Nick and Jared. We were in the pav towards the middle. I had a blast. I did a little bit of sass and had a few beers inside the venue. I'd say I raged Raleigh way harder than Charlotte. For a period of time, Scott, George, and George's woman were also with us. This bitch made us smoke her up in the first set to avoid her calling the usher over and booting us from her seats. That was weak, but whatever.
Highlights were the RnR > Ghost for me. I thought it was a solid show. Nothing epic, nothing horrible either. I thought they made huge improvements from Charlotte to Portsmouth versus how they played in Alpharetta.
We drove up Thursday evening/early Friday morning. We passed the venue at 3am on Friday. My buddy Beka has a place two minutes from the venue, so we chilled out all day and had some nice pre-show drinking going on. Highlights include an intense debate with Scott about "jamming" which cleared all the pussy out of the room faster than a '92 appearance.
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
If I've seen it once I've seen it a thousand times.....
What's even funnier is that one of girls said something like, "the ass and titties are leaving the room" and we were oblivious to it.
I enjoyed the hell out of that intense debate. Discussing music gets me off far more than those ass and titties would have!
THis reba is awesome!
Quote from: PIE-GUY on June 20, 2011, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: Undermind on June 20, 2011, 11:26:27 AM
Soundcheck Footage!
http://phishvidcollection.blogspot.com/2011/06/charlotte-61711-souncheck-footage.html
With the first 10 second clip I was wondering why even bother... then I realized that was just the first of many!
I thought the same thing.
Thanks for the link, Deuce!
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on June 21, 2011, 02:55:45 PM
I enjoyed the hell out of that intense debate. Discussing music gets me off far more than those ass and titties would have!
So the girls left the room and *then* you guys masturbated?
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on June 18, 2011, 04:56:36 PM
But do you want to know what pisses me off even more is the fact that you don't jam anymore, it's like, I would be happy if you would at least attempt some type II jamming in your shows, because then maybe you might re-find your way into some nicer deep exploration, and the other thing I want to point out is that playing 7 minute and 44 second Ghost's like the one at PNC is completely unacceptable...
I must disagree with you. First, the 7:44 Ghost actually has some fucking INCREDIBLE improv and jamming in it; Trey plays a modulation early on that is pure 98/99 goodness, and Page lays it down spectacularly with some great piano filling and Rhodes lines. Its pretty fucking annoying, though, because right when it could take flight into the way high regions, Trey is all like DURRRRPPPPP NUmBARRR LyNEEEE HURRRHURRRRR.
And then with the Rock and Roll -> Ghost, I was actually truly impressed with the playing. However, certain things annoyed me.
First, regarding RnR: the jam was okay, and then fizzled into a cool ambient space jam with Trey thematically playing with the +2 octave whammy pedal setting. Fish had no idea what to do here, so he kind of just dropped out. However, Trey then finds this GREAT theme that he develops, and it actually coalesces into a distinct compositional segment, but Fish just like... doesn't catch on fast enough, and when he does come in with a beat, its what he dropped out with earlier, and then Trey figures out the vibrato pedal exists, and its all over from there. Its about 4-5 minutes in, when Trey starts playing this descending thing... ***cues video*** http://blog.phish.net/1308487112/61711-jam-ghost-official-vid
Okay, its at just exactly 4:20 when he figures out the idea, and then it goes from there with Page switching over to piano. But here Fish keeps the double-time RnR jam beat going, when I feel it is SCREAMING for a half-time thing kind of like what plays in the start of the Curtain With jam, during the Rift part, before it gets double-time in the main jam.
Okay, now this Ghost: Page should have taken over with more of his space-envelope shit during the intro. But the jam.... this is where its weird. Because again, early on, there is a good modulation effort lead by Mike, at 12:40 of the video. Trey and Page can't seem to figure out how to solidly latch onto it, and it goes away; it was *almost* locked, but Trey played a wrong note/'out' note and soured it. Trey comes up with a neat thing at 14:00, but then brings the "out" playing and kind of kills it. The band manages one up-shift, with Trey landing on a chord but then his out-playing kind of fizzles stuff. But THEN, at 15:15, Trey eventually finds this fucking INCREDIBLE lick that he then repeats and builds on, which the rest of the band can't seem to completely latch onto. He furthers the idea more, with Page and Mike finally figuring it out, but then after a couple segments of measures, Trey then abandons it for more "out" playing. It fishes around for a while, and then somehow manages to find its way to a decent rock peak ending bit via Trey leading an ascending theme at 16:27 that actually builds its way up to the peak very nicely.
So, I think this is a good Ghost. Far from the best, but thats not the point. Its got good things to offer, and Trey actually patiently lets the final ascending scale-climb go until the right moment. His "peak" licks could have been more inspired and whatnot, but he gets into the groove at 18:04 of the video with a triplet lick that builds to a pre-bend release on the 1 for a peak, but which ends. The outro jam is pretty neat with Page dancing on the organ and leading to a very cool, chill Pay Jorgan session.
This also shows something that I think we have mainly missed, is that the band is pushing onward after the main "peak" event with jams; they aren't slamming into something else, and are letting the music dissolve and flow into the next thing. Typically, before, once the audience began applauding, it was time to forse a horce and clang into Number Line, which does happen still, but far more less than it had been done before.
This jam had several good segments, but Trey ruined most of them with trying to insert his "out" playing stuff he likes a lot lately.
Should I be surprised that I like this R&R > Ghost combo more than Gumbo did? I feel like I should be surprised.
Anyway, I actually love this sequence. I think it's pretty spectacular. The R&R jam drops into some nice, subdued, delicate territory without actually dropping the beat or all sense of melody, as often happens in "post-rawk" 3.0 jams. This alone would make it praiseworthy, but the quality of the music is itself quite good.
The entrance into Ghost is slow and methodical. No forcing here. Some nice "weird" touches from Mike during the intro. Nice major-key interplay. Nice piano swells from Page as the jam begins its ascent. Thematic leads from Trey as discussed above. Even the rapid-strum peak has some actual structure and melodic thought underneath it. Then a bit of an outro solo on the other side of the peak.
One of the most impressive things, as Gumbo highlighted, was the post-peak portion of the jam (or more precisely, that there was one at all). And it wasn't just aimless noise either. Nice chunky/funky work from P&T. In earlier times, Phish would regularly put on a clinic in how to methodically build, annihilate, and responsibly deconstruct a jam. I'm not necessarily putting this up with some of the all-time such exercises, but it was great to see/hear this approach again.
I haven't yet decided if I like this Ghost more than the NYE version. On the one hand, MSG's probably had more impressive, developed and coherent thematic playing, but Charlotte was more complete in terms of all of the pieces being there. And the content itself was no slouch either.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on July 12, 2011, 07:52:25 PM
Should I be surprised that I like this R&R > Ghost combo more than Gumbo did? I feel like I should be surprised.
Anyway, I actually love this sequence. I think it's pretty spectacular. The R&R jam drops into some nice, subdued, delicate territory without actually dropping the beat or all sense of melody, as often happens in "post-rawk" 3.0 jams. This alone would make it praiseworthy, but the quality of the music is itself quite good.
The entrance into Ghost is slow and methodical. No forcing here. Some nice "weird" touches from Mike during the intro. Nice major-key interplay. Nice piano swells from Page as the jam begins its ascent. Thematic leads from Trey as discussed above. Even the rapid-strum peak has some actual structure and melodic thought underneath it. Then a bit of an outro solo on the other side of the peak.
One of the most impressive things, as Gumbo highlighted, was the post-peak portion of the jam (or more precisely, that there was one at all). And it wasn't just aimless noise either. Nice chunky/funky work from P&T. In earlier times, Phish would regularly put on a clinic in how to methodically build, annihilate, and responsibly deconstruct a jam. I'm not necessarily putting this up with some of the all-time such exercises, but it was great to see/hear this approach again.
I haven't yet decided if I like this Ghost more than the NYE version. On the one hand, MSG's probably had more impressive, developed and coherent thematic playing, but Charlotte was more complete in terms of all of the pieces being there. And the content itself was no slouch either.
Having been at both, I think the NYE Ghost is better. It peaked way harder than this one in my opinion.
Quote from: sophist on July 13, 2011, 08:54:52 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on July 12, 2011, 07:52:25 PM
Should I be surprised that I like this R&R > Ghost combo more than Gumbo did? I feel like I should be surprised.
Anyway, I actually love this sequence. I think it's pretty spectacular. The R&R jam drops into some nice, subdued, delicate territory without actually dropping the beat or all sense of melody, as often happens in "post-rawk" 3.0 jams. This alone would make it praiseworthy, but the quality of the music is itself quite good.
The entrance into Ghost is slow and methodical. No forcing here. Some nice "weird" touches from Mike during the intro. Nice major-key interplay. Nice piano swells from Page as the jam begins its ascent. Thematic leads from Trey as discussed above. Even the rapid-strum peak has some actual structure and melodic thought underneath it. Then a bit of an outro solo on the other side of the peak.
One of the most impressive things, as Gumbo highlighted, was the post-peak portion of the jam (or more precisely, that there was one at all). And it wasn't just aimless noise either. Nice chunky/funky work from P&T. In earlier times, Phish would regularly put on a clinic in how to methodically build, annihilate, and responsibly deconstruct a jam. I'm not necessarily putting this up with some of the all-time such exercises, but it was great to see/hear this approach again.
I haven't yet decided if I like this Ghost more than the NYE version. On the one hand, MSG's probably had more impressive, developed and coherent thematic playing, but Charlotte was more complete in terms of all of the pieces being there. And the content itself was no slouch either.
Having been at both, I think the NYE Ghost is better. It peaked way harder than this one in my opinion.
I agree, the NYE ghost was a more blissful, high energy peak. This one is more a jumbled shreddage-blinko jam.
I'm with y'all on the superiority of the NYE peak. The Charlotte version scores more points in other departments, and I haven't fully decided how I weigh all those various parts. I really do love the NYE Ghost, however. It is the ( . )( . )
The NYE Ghost is probably better than anything played this summer. (except the Storage Jam.... and maybe Detroit DWD)
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:09:29 PM
The NYE Ghost is probably better than anything played this summer. (except the Storage Jam.... and maybe Detroit DWD)
No love for the Portsmouth Sand?
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 13, 2011, 02:15:16 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:09:29 PM
The NYE Ghost is probably better than anything played this summer. (except the Storage Jam.... and maybe Detroit DWD)
No love for the Portsmouth Sand?
That one's up there too. Maybe if Trey hadn't forced the ending.... twice....
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 13, 2011, 02:15:16 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:09:29 PM
The NYE Ghost is probably better than anything played this summer. (except the Storage Jam.... and maybe Detroit DWD)
No love for the Portsmouth Sand?
That one's up there too. Maybe if Trey hadn't forced the ending.... twice....
:shakehead:
it could have been
the 31 min sand
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on July 13, 2011, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 13, 2011, 02:15:16 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:09:29 PM
The NYE Ghost is probably better than anything played this summer. (except the Storage Jam.... and maybe Detroit DWD)
No love for the Portsmouth Sand?
That one's up there too. Maybe if Trey hadn't forced the ending.... twice....
:shakehead:
it could have been the 31 min sand
It's true. That 30 sec reprise is a bigger tease than a high school girl in a Catholic school uniform.
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on July 13, 2011, 02:32:25 PM
:shakehead:
it could have been the 31 min sand
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Right, dude?! I thought it was gonna happen...
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 13, 2011, 02:15:16 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:09:29 PM
The NYE Ghost is probably better than anything played this summer. (except the Storage Jam.... and maybe Detroit DWD)
No love for the Portsmouth Sand?
meh. It didn't do it for me. I was by the back of the rail between the pit and the seats. I thought they were on the verge of getting "there" but the same with all 3.0 it wrapped up too soon. The NYE Ghost actually does something that elicited a huge response out of the crowd. It was one of the few true peaks in a jam as opposed to just getting louder, which is what normally happens.
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 13, 2011, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on July 13, 2011, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 13, 2011, 02:15:16 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:09:29 PM
The NYE Ghost is probably better than anything played this summer. (except the Storage Jam.... and maybe Detroit DWD)
No love for the Portsmouth Sand?
That one's up there too. Maybe if Trey hadn't forced the ending.... twice....
:shakehead:
it could have been the 31 min sand
It's true. That 30 sec reprise is a bigger tease than a high school girl in a Catholic school uniform.
Since when are those teases?
Quote from: kellerb on July 13, 2011, 06:55:47 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 13, 2011, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on July 13, 2011, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 13, 2011, 02:15:16 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:09:29 PM
The NYE Ghost is probably better than anything played this summer. (except the Storage Jam.... and maybe Detroit DWD)
No love for the Portsmouth Sand?
That one's up there too. Maybe if Trey hadn't forced the ending.... twice....
:shakehead:
it could have been the 31 min sand
It's true. That 30 sec reprise is a bigger tease than a high school girl in a Catholic school uniform.
Since when are those teases?
There's a rohypnol joke in there somewhere.
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on July 13, 2011, 08:19:47 PM
Quote from: kellerb on July 13, 2011, 06:55:47 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 13, 2011, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on July 13, 2011, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 13, 2011, 02:15:16 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:09:29 PM
The NYE Ghost is probably better than anything played this summer. (except the Storage Jam.... and maybe Detroit DWD)
No love for the Portsmouth Sand?
That one's up there too. Maybe if Trey hadn't forced the ending.... twice....
:shakehead:
it could have been the 31 min sand
It's true. That 30 sec reprise is a bigger tease than a high school girl in a Catholic school uniform.
Since when are those teases?
There's a rohypnol joke in there somewhere.
No need for roofies when you have the eucharist.
Quote from: kellerb on July 13, 2011, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on July 13, 2011, 08:19:47 PM
Quote from: kellerb on July 13, 2011, 06:55:47 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 13, 2011, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on July 13, 2011, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 13, 2011, 02:15:16 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 13, 2011, 02:09:29 PM
The NYE Ghost is probably better than anything played this summer. (except the Storage Jam.... and maybe Detroit DWD)
No love for the Portsmouth Sand?
That one's up there too. Maybe if Trey hadn't forced the ending.... twice....
:shakehead:
it could have been the 31 min sand
It's true. That 30 sec reprise is a bigger tease than a high school girl in a Catholic school uniform.
Since when are those teases?
There's a rohypnol joke in there somewhere.
No need for roofies when you have the eucharist.
A kellerb literal LOL two-fer
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Since I'm bored, have some time to up some photos. Good times...
Nice pics GAH.
I've made it through this 1st set and I find it pretty tight throughout. Nothing gets out there but decent song selection for a 1st set. Loved the Paug, Forbin's and Mockingbird. I would have been very happy at this point had I been there.
On to the 2nd set.
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on July 15, 2011, 12:16:20 PM
Nice pics GAH.
I've made it through this 1st set and I find it pretty tight throughout. Nothing gets out there but decent song selection for a 1st set. Loved the Paug, Forbin's and Mockingbird. I would have been very happy at this point had I been there.
On to the 2nd set.
Anytime a show starts with a Mike's you know you're in for a good time.
haha yes!! charlotte lot fun
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on July 15, 2011, 01:15:48 PM
haha yes!! charlotte lot fun
I forgot about those photos. Good stuff.
the faux and friends pic is fairly epic.
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on July 15, 2011, 01:46:45 PM
the faux and friends pic is fairly epic.
HA! yeah, I went to go get him when we had a big crew there, by the time I got back, WTU was the only one who'd waited around. It was getting real close to showtime.
Finally meeting faux was probably my highlight of Charlotte.
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 15, 2011, 02:33:51 PM
Finally meeting faux was probably my highlight of Charlotte.
really? :police:
Ah yes... I forgot about that "My New Goal" thread...
Quote from: sophist on July 15, 2011, 02:41:13 PM
Quote from: JPhishman on July 15, 2011, 02:36:14 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 15, 2011, 02:33:51 PM
Finally meeting faux was probably my highlight of Charlotte.
really? :police:
that says a lot dude.
I had been wanting to meet faux for quite some time and this show didn't really do it for me musically. It was sweet to get my 1st Icculus!
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 15, 2011, 06:01:22 PM
Quote from: sophist on July 15, 2011, 02:41:13 PM
Quote from: JPhishman on July 15, 2011, 02:36:14 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 15, 2011, 02:33:51 PM
Finally meeting faux was probably my highlight of Charlotte.
really? :police:
that says a lot dude.
I had been wanting to meet faux for quite some time and this show didn't really do it for me musically. It was sweet to get my 1st Icculus!
Didn't like the RnR > Ghost?
Not super crazy about the ghost, myself. But the RnR gets pretty awesome near the end. Quality stuff.
I give it a meh/meh+