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MLB Hot Stove 2009-2010

Started by Alumni, November 09, 2009, 08:12:42 PM

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Alumni

Should be interesting this year.

So far, Boston has declined their option on Alex Gonzales (SS), picked up their option on Victor Martinez (shocker!) and extended Tim Wakefield another 2 years.

That last bit is interesting. If Wakefield can hang on and, somehow, pick up 18 wins over the next two seasons, he'll take first place in all-time wins for Boston. Ahead of Roger Clemens. And Cy Young.

Wow.

Go, old man. Do it.
Cause I got a degree

mehead

....and they also didn't pick up the option on Varitek..interested to see what their plan is for SS
His eyes were clean and pure but his mind was so deranged

Alumni

I'm not sure *what* they thinking re: SS. Lowrie? He's still unproven.

Gonzales hit .280-something last year. That's fine for someone with his glove.
Cause I got a degree

Alumni

The Roy Halladay Saga, part II

QuoteNew Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos said on Tuesday that he would generally be willing to consider trades within the American League East, with the only caveat being that he'd be more inclined to accept a trade outside the division if it was exactly equal. So Anthopoulos -- who called Halladay "the greatest Blue Jay player or pitcher" -- appears much more likely to be open to a deal to the Red Sox or Yankees. His main message was that the Jays need to get better, and that he is willing to do whatever it takes to meet that goal.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/11/11/yankees.halladay/index.html
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antelope19

Not that anyone cares, but it'll be interesting to see how the young orioles progress over the offseason.  There are high hopes for our young pitchers and that catcher guy.   :wink:  But we're gonna need to sign a free agent third baseman since Melvin Mora is now gone.  There are talks of moving either Luke Scott or Nolan Reimold over to first.  But I wouldn't mind signing a first baseman as well. 
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mehead

you're right - nobody cares  :wink:

Ser. though Baltimore needs to get their shit together..the Jays have had their chance but now they're toast so I would like to see Baltimore be somewhat of a contender in the AL East - tired of NY/BOS
His eyes were clean and pure but his mind was so deranged

antelope19

Quote from: mehead on November 11, 2009, 02:08:04 PM
you're right - nobody cares  :wink:

Ser. though Baltimore needs to get their shit together..the Jays have had their chance but now they're toast so I would like to see Baltimore be somewhat of a contender in the AL East - tired of NY/BOS

:-D

Dude, at this point, I'd be happy if we played better than .500 baseball.  We haven't had a winning season in 12 years, but I think we finally have the tools to do so.  Yes, I'm well aware of how pathetic that is. 

But I would agree, I'm tired of a Yankees/Red Sox dominated AL East.   

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mattstick

#7
Should be interesting, if I were Boston or NYY I'd really consider signing Lackey before I gave up a ton of prospects for 1 year of Halladay... then try and sign him next year.

When exactly did the Jays have their chance?  It was a rough year in 2009 but we still have a wealth of young starters, one of the best 2Bs in baseball, Adam Lind will hit 30+ homers for the next 10 years, Travis Snider is about to prove why he was the best prospect in baseball, and nobody gives them a shot ever.

There is just something wrong with the O's, it's weird.

Alumni

Quote from: mattstick on November 11, 2009, 02:15:56 PM
There is just something wrong with the O's, it's weird.
qft

They're not *that* small budget.

MY guess: the biggest thing wrong with BAL is Peter Angelos.
Cause I got a degree

mattstick


http://www.drunkjaysfans.com/2009/11/gm-meetings-tuesday-afternoon-bullshit.html

"It was reported that former Blue Jays GM J.P. Ricciardi asked for Ruben Tejeda, Jonathan Niese, Fernando Martinez, and Bobby Parnell," writes Mike Silva of New York Baseball Digest, of the Mets offer for Halladay this summer. "It's a deal that, if offered and rejected, I am sure the Mets would like to have back."

"If the July deal doesn't get it done I would offer to replace Niese with Mejia and Parnell with Holt. ... I would even explore if the inclusion of Mike Pelfrey could replace a prospect or two or sweeten the deal. ... Let's go one step further. Would I make Ike Davis untouchable? The answer is no. Obviously I wouldn't just throw players in the deal to acquire Halladay, but if Toronto wants Davis perhaps you downgrade the pitchers in the deal and ask for Lyle Overbay (if he still is with Toronto at that point)," he adds.

"Reality is such that the Mets are built to win now. If you are not going to trade Beltran and Santana then you might as well go for it in a one to two year period. ... You might not like hearing this, but right now the Mets don't have the luxury of winning now and building for the future. Incompetent management has destroyed that opportunity and only breaking this down and building it up can fix that. Unfortunately there is a team across town that makes any idea of rebuilding dangerous. A conservative plan threatens to set the franchise back a decade and reap long term harm to fan loyalty. Remember, the kids want to root for a winner, not share in the pain of their parents. The Mets need star power both on the field and in the box office. Roy Halladay meets both those needs."


Play_It_Leo

In case you hadn't seen this, antelope:

QuoteFOXSports.com reports that the Orioles and Giants have shown the most interest in Dan Uggla.

The Red Sox have even considered Uggla as a potential alternative to Jason Bay in left field, although he hasn't played in the outfield since the 2004 season in Double-A. Uggla, 30, figures to play third base should he be acquired by the Orioles or Giants, according to the report, but they would be taking quite a leap of faith considering his defense. He should make roughly $8 million in arbitration this winter.
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Bouncin' - after all that, fuck they could have kicked their instruments in the face and I would have loved to eat some ice cream.

antelope19

Quote from: Play_It_Leo on November 11, 2009, 03:15:24 PM
In case you hadn't seen this, antelope:

QuoteFOXSports.com reports that the Orioles and Giants have shown the most interest in Dan Uggla.

The Red Sox have even considered Uggla as a potential alternative to Jason Bay in left field, although he hasn't played in the outfield since the 2004 season in Double-A. Uggla, 30, figures to play third base should he be acquired by the Orioles or Giants, according to the report, but they would be taking quite a leap of faith considering his defense. He should make roughly $8 million in arbitration this winter.

Thanks!

That's interesting.  I guess we would still be getting younger since Mora was in his late 30's, but I don't know that he's the answer.  Perhaps he's someone they could sign for 2 years until Josh Bell gets some more seasoning. 
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mattstick


I'm weary of Uggla, I can see him settling into a long-term contract and floating by for the rest of his career...

mattstick

The Angels and Tigers have discussed a trade for center fielder Curtis Granderson, according to Ken Davidoff of Newsday.  Davidoff says the Halos would use Granderson in left field and either shift Juan Rivera to DH or trade him.  In my opinion, the Angels could fill several needs cheaply for the Tigers with players such as Mike Napoli and Brandon Wood.  Davidoff adds that the Yankees "think very highly" of Granderson and the Cubs are "expected to inquire."

Granderson, 29 in March, hit .249/.327/.453 in 710 plate appearances this year.  His defense is at least respectable.  His contract is reasonable - $25.75MM guaranteed over the next three years.  ESPN's Keith Law, however, considers Granderson a platoon player given his inability to hit lefties.


antelope19

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Blue Jays signed shortstop Alex Gonzalez to a one-year, $2.75 million contract.

The contract includes a $2.5 million club option for 2011. Gonzalez, 32, batted .238/.279/.355 with eight home runs and 41 RBI in 391 at-bats between the Reds and Red Sox in 2009. He comes with a fine reputation on defense, ranking as one of the best shortstops in the league. Like it or not, the Blue Jays have committed to a pair of veteran defensive specialists in Gonzalez and John McDonald over the past 24 hours. Marco Scutaro will have to find employment elsewhere

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