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Title: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on June 18, 2011, 11:09:21 PM
06/18/2011
Time Warner Cable Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC (Walnut Creek)
Soundcheck: Babylon Baby, Blues Jam

Set I:
Cars Trucks Buses, Peaches en Regalia, AC/DC Bag, Guyute, Possum, Halley's Comet ~>46 Days, Divided Sky, The Ballad Of Curtis Loew, Run Like an Antelope


Set II:
Twist, Rift, Prince Caspian> Esther, Been Caught Stealing@, Piper> My Friend My Friend> Kill Devil Falls, Split Open and Melt> Golgi Apparatus, First Tube


Encore:
Good Times Bad Times


@ Last Time Played 12/28/98 (298 Shows)
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mehead on June 18, 2011, 11:16:44 PM
at work so no streamage for me....2nd set looks interesting to say the least

how was it thru the sharts?
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Hicks on June 19, 2011, 12:31:24 AM
14 min Split?

Sounds interesting.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Multibeast12 on June 19, 2011, 12:32:24 AM
Quote from: Hicks on June 19, 2011, 12:31:24 AM
14 min Split?

Sounds interesting.
This
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: macaronihead on June 19, 2011, 12:41:49 AM
Quote from: Multibeast12 on June 19, 2011, 12:32:24 AM
Quote from: Hicks on June 19, 2011, 12:31:24 AM
14 min Split?

Sounds interesting.
This

That
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: barnesy305 on June 19, 2011, 12:46:37 AM
Been Caught Stealing.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: roggae on June 19, 2011, 12:48:15 AM
Who sang been caught and what is that effect they used? The perry ferrel filter?
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: barnesy305 on June 19, 2011, 12:50:06 AM
The effect is delay and I think Trey and Page both sang.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: roggae on June 19, 2011, 12:50:55 AM
Quote from: barnesy305 on June 19, 2011, 12:50:06 AM
The effect is delay and I think Trey and Page both sang.

I like it.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Declan on June 19, 2011, 12:56:10 AM
trey is making a comeback.


And you can tell he is practicing.

:clap:
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on June 19, 2011, 01:08:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O64_5CI5fE0
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: postjack on June 19, 2011, 02:01:22 AM
Quote from: Undermind on June 18, 2011, 11:09:21 PM
06/18/2011
Time Warner Cable Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC (Walnut Creek)
Soundcheck: Babylon Baby, Blues Jam

Set I:
Cars Trucks Buses, Peaches en Regalia, AC/DC Bag, Guyute, Possum, Halley's Comet ~>46 Days, Divided Sky, The Ballad Of Curtis Loew, Run Like an Antelope


Set II:
Twist, Rift, Prince Caspian> Esther, Been Caught Stealing@, Piper> My Friend My Friend> Kill Devil Falls, Split Open and Melt> Golgi Apparatus, First Tube


Encore:
Good Times Bad Times


@ Last Time Played 12/28/98 (298 Shows)

CTB was a welcome opener, its not summer tour unless you get a CTB while the sun is still out. Peaches was totally unexpected and a nice treat. I could be wrong, but I think Trey isn't playing the opening notes correctly, strumming chords instead of actually playing the crazy notes. But he hit the peak well (3.0! peakz). Halley's had a little jam then a solid segue into 46 Days, which rocked hard and really whipped the crowd up. I went to the bathroom during Divided Sky. Curtis Lowe was welcome, standard 'Lope to close it out.

Now set II was special. After Charlotte, I'm wondering what the hell Phish would do tonight to make the show worth a damn. Charlotte was such a rock show, so many bust outs, such high energy. The answer to my question once again reminded me of why I love Phish, because they do have such a range, and they do have the ability to make any given show special in a completely different way. This set was characterized by a really, really outstanding SOAM jam. Murky, dark, down in the fracking muck. The most thrilling part of the jam for me was this one moment when Mike slowly stopped playing, Fish started playing the "wrap up" drum beats, and you could tell the whole band was waiting for Trey to return to the SOAM theme or even start a new song. Instead Trey started riffing, and brought the jam in a new direction! :banana: I was captivated and thrilled. SOAM also brought some of the best CK5 work in recent memory. Eventually they did return back to the SOAM theme, and it was solid and celebratory and righteous. If you only listen to one song from the show, listen to the SOAM.

Twist was slow and good, Rift was messy. The jam out of Prince Caspian was actually pretty cool and worth checking out. Esther is neat and all but as a song it doesn't really grip me. Definitely fit the weird swampy dark feel of the set though. First Tube was super high energy, had the whole place jumping, as was GTBT.

Some dude next to me in the pav puked everywhere. Awesome.

All in all I feel super lucky to have caught both Charlotte and Raleigh. Since Charlotte was the tour closer type show, characterized by bust outs and large doses of Phish silliness, I am really curious to see what Portsmouth will bring. I'm thinking it will be more like a Charlottesville Fall 09 type of tour closer, and that is fine with me, since they will open SBIX with Harpua.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: postjack on June 19, 2011, 02:07:52 AM
On a side note, best walk out house music I've ever heard came in the form of "Build Me Up Buttercup". Crowd is walking out and singing the song, with some singing the main lines, with others singing the responses ("why do you build me up" "build me up!" "buttercup baby just to let me down" "let me down!") with everyone joining in the big "i need you! i need you! more then anyone darlin..." etc. a special moment of communal doowop rapture.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: aphineday on June 19, 2011, 02:32:04 AM
Quote from: postjack on June 19, 2011, 02:07:52 AM
On a side note, best walk out house music I've ever heard came in the form of "Build Me Up Buttercup". Crowd is walking out and singing the song, with some singing the main lines, with others singing the responses ("why do you build me up" "build me up!" "buttercup baby just to let me down" "let me down!") with everyone joining in the big "i need you! i need you! more then anyone darlin..." etc. a special moment of communal doowop rapture.
Sweet, and thanks for the review man, sounds pretty well rounded. Pumped to hear the SOAM.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: sophist on June 19, 2011, 05:03:56 AM
 :wtu:
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on June 19, 2011, 06:18:11 AM
Quote from: Hicks on June 19, 2011, 12:31:24 AM
14 min Split?

Sounds interesting.

Intriguing.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: DoW on June 19, 2011, 07:07:21 AM
lol at gtbt to close leg 1
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 07:10:10 AM
One more show...;)
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: DoW on June 19, 2011, 07:20:02 AM
ha.  shows how much I've been paying attention.
I'm going to start listening to these shows now.
I'll pull out my highlights to save for multi listens.
this setlist looks like it could have some nice parts of the show.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: phil on June 19, 2011, 08:13:04 AM
stoked to listen to this on the drive to portsmouth. Definitely looks more interesting to me than Charlotte.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on June 19, 2011, 08:34:26 AM
Quote from: sophist on June 19, 2011, 05:03:56 AM
:wtu:
Intriguing.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Igbo on June 19, 2011, 09:00:02 AM
Quote from: barnesy305 on June 19, 2011, 12:50:06 AM
The effect is delay and I think Trey and Page both sang.

Just told Randi they played "Been Caught Stealing" last night. She is none too pleased for not deciding to go last night.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on June 19, 2011, 09:03:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cdAAF3HhHU
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on June 19, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
thats weird,  but pretty hilarious.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 09:25:26 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
thats weird,  but pretty hilarious.

I'm liking the vocal effect.
Wish they would have nailed the changes, tho.
My favorite part is Mike's big breakdown and Trey comes in all quick-like!
Oh...and where are the tramps?!

So....I give this 1 out of 4.  :-D
Now I've only seen half of their versions.  :cry:
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on June 19, 2011, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 09:25:26 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
thats weird,  but pretty hilarious.

I'm liking the vocal effect.
Wish they would have nailed the changes, tho.
My favorite part is Mike's big breakdown and Trey comes in all quick-like!
Oh...and where are the tramps?!

So....I give this 1 out of 4.  :-D
Now I've only seen half of their versions.  :cry:

yeah, trey stepped all over mike there. 
i saw the first!
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 09:30:25 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 09:25:26 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
thats weird,  but pretty hilarious.

I'm liking the vocal effect.
Wish they would have nailed the changes, tho.
My favorite part is Mike's big breakdown and Trey comes in all quick-like!
Oh...and where are the tramps?!

So....I give this 1 out of 4.  :-D
Now I've only seen half of their versions.  :cry:

yeah, trey stepped all over mike there. 
i saw the first!

Me too!
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on June 19, 2011, 09:31:13 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
thats weird,  but pretty hilarious.

That
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on June 19, 2011, 09:34:07 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 09:30:25 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 09:25:26 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
thats weird,  but pretty hilarious.

I'm liking the vocal effect.
Wish they would have nailed the changes, tho.
My favorite part is Mike's big breakdown and Trey comes in all quick-like!
Oh...and where are the tramps?!

So....I give this 1 out of 4.  :-D
Now I've only seen half of their versions.  :cry:

yeah, trey stepped all over mike there. 
i saw the first!

Me too!

i saw you!
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:34:07 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 09:30:25 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 09:25:26 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
thats weird,  but pretty hilarious.

I'm liking the vocal effect.
Wish they would have nailed the changes, tho.
My favorite part is Mike's big breakdown and Trey comes in all quick-like!
Oh...and where are the tramps?!

So....I give this 1 out of 4.  :-D
Now I've only seen half of their versions.  :cry:

yeah, trey stepped all over mike there. 
i saw the first!

Me too!

i saw you!

I was not HATIN'!
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on June 19, 2011, 10:15:51 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:34:07 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 09:30:25 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 09:25:26 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
thats weird,  but pretty hilarious.

I'm liking the vocal effect.
Wish they would have nailed the changes, tho.
My favorite part is Mike's big breakdown and Trey comes in all quick-like!
Oh...and where are the tramps?!

So....I give this 1 out of 4.  :-D
Now I've only seen half of their versions.  :cry:

yeah, trey stepped all over mike there. 
i saw the first!

Me too!

i saw you!

I was not HATIN'!

you were all like, "man, if they are this good now, imagine how they will sound in 13 years!"
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 10:18:38 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 10:15:51 AMyou were all like, "man, if they are this good now, imagine how they will sound in 13 years!"

TOTES!
That Alpine show is one of my Top 10 that I caught.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 10:27:43 AM
The Halley's > 46 Days segue is straight BUTTAH!
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on June 19, 2011, 10:44:16 AM
rockin show.  Been Caught Stealin was a real treat.  wish we could make tonight but doesn't look like it's gonna happen


eta it still feels like they have no idea how to play Split but the jam was awesome
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: roggae on June 19, 2011, 11:24:31 AM
The first three songs are pretty strong. So far I'd have enjoyed being there.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: roggae on June 19, 2011, 11:25:42 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 10:18:38 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 10:15:51 AMyou were all like, "man, if they are this good now, imagine how they will sound in 13 years!"

TOTES!
That Alpine show is one of my Top 10 that I caught.

You talking '98? I'm so bummed we skipped this to get to deer creek a day early.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 11:27:08 AM
Quote from: roggae on June 19, 2011, 11:25:42 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 10:18:38 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 10:15:51 AMyou were all like, "man, if they are this good now, imagine how they will sound in 13 years!"

TOTES!
That Alpine show is one of my Top 10 that I caught.

You talking '98? I'm so bummed we skipped this to get to deer creek a day early.

Yep.
Killer show.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Hicks on June 19, 2011, 12:32:30 PM
Quote from: roggae on June 19, 2011, 11:25:42 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 10:18:38 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 10:15:51 AMyou were all like, "man, if they are this good now, imagine how they will sound in 13 years!"

TOTES!
That Alpine show is one of my Top 10 that I caught.

You talking '98? I'm so bummed we skipped this to get to deer creek a day early.

I'm sure HORDE 94 made up for it though.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: tweezerfan on June 19, 2011, 12:55:35 PM
bunch of negative people on this board. the scene is so critical and negative these days. never used to be. whack.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 12:58:38 PM
Quote from: tweezerfan on June 19, 2011, 12:55:35 PM
bunch of negative people on this board. the scene is so critical and negative these days. never used to be. whack.

You're 24 and an expert on what the scene used to be?
Go surf the dirt, kid.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: lifeboy13 on June 19, 2011, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 09:25:26 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 09:22:07 AM
thats weird,  but pretty hilarious.

I'm liking the vocal effect.
Wish they would have nailed the changes, tho.
My favorite part is Mike's big breakdown and Trey comes in all quick-like!
Oh...and where are the tramps?!

So....I give this 1 out of 4.  :-D
Now I've only seen half of their versions.  :cry:

yeah, trey stepped all over mike there. 
i saw the first!

yeah, I prefer the 8/1/98 encore version that pretty much blew up most of East Troy that night.  Of course I was in the Pav that night and it was my 3rd show.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: tweezerfan on June 19, 2011, 01:07:02 PM
Wow, G. Augusto. You sound like a really cool person to be friends with.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: lifeboy13 on June 19, 2011, 01:11:15 PM
Quote from: tweezerfan on June 19, 2011, 01:07:02 PM
Wow, G. Augusto. You sound like a really cool person to be friends with.
can't we all be as happy as I am today.  No work (Rare), Bought 2 UIC Tickets on Ebay yesterday ($133.01), going to grill NY Strips (also Rare), and listen to Phish tonight for my fathers day (2 cocker spaniels).
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: bacchist on June 19, 2011, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 10:27:43 AM
The Halley's > 46 Days segue is straight BUTTAH!
I think the Halley's jam was fun, but the actual segue was botched. Trey just forces it. There's no flow...
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 01:24:00 PM
Quote from: tweezerfan on June 19, 2011, 01:07:02 PM
Wow, G. Augusto. You sound like a really cool person to be friends with.

Pound sand, n00b.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 01:24:42 PM
Quote from: bacchist on June 19, 2011, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 10:27:43 AM
The Halley's > 46 Days segue is straight BUTTAH!
I think the Halley's jam was fun, but the actual segue was botched. Trey just forces it. There's no flow...

BUTTAH!
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Hicks on June 19, 2011, 02:19:08 PM
Lol at people who were 17 in 2004 talking about how the scene used to be.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: aphineday on June 19, 2011, 02:22:41 PM
Quote from: Hicks on June 19, 2011, 02:19:08 PM
Lol at people who were 17 in 2004 talking about how the scene used to be.
I wish for his sake, he could have known what the scene used to be.
Granted, I'm still probably a fairly youngin', but I saw my share of 1.0/2.0, and I remember how it was at least somewhat.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: bacchist on June 19, 2011, 03:10:12 PM
I'm only 28 myself... but old enough to remember people bitching on the internet before the band became a nostalgia act...
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: DoW on June 19, 2011, 03:23:20 PM
This thread is very funny. Thanks all.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on June 19, 2011, 03:27:30 PM
If you didn't experience the  :phish: scene before Jerry died, do not talk about the scene. You do not know what you are talking about.

It really is that simple.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: gainesvillegreen on June 19, 2011, 03:35:57 PM
Quote from: tweezerfan on June 19, 2011, 12:55:35 PM
bunch of negative people on this board. the scene is so critical and negative these days. never used to be. whack.

Ironically, this is one the most favorable post-show review threads thus far in terms of the music.

Listening to CTB now. Love this song.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on June 19, 2011, 03:38:25 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on June 19, 2011, 03:27:30 PM
If you didn't experience the  :phish: scene before Jerry died, do not talk about the scene. You do not know what you are talking about.

It really is that simple.

IN by 1.5 months!
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: aphineday on June 19, 2011, 03:42:28 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 03:38:25 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on June 19, 2011, 03:27:30 PM
If you didn't experience the  :phish: scene before Jerry died, do not talk about the scene. You do not know what you are talking about.

It really is that simple.

IN by 1.5 months!
LOL I'm out. Fuck, I fail at Phish too?! Great :/
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 03:45:15 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on June 19, 2011, 03:27:30 PM
If you didn't experience the  :phish: scene before Jerry died, do not talk about the scene. You do not know what you are talking about.

It really is that simple.

You fools just got SERVED!
By PIE GUY!
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: JPhishman on June 19, 2011, 03:45:33 PM
Thanks for the review PJ. I'm more excited to hear this show now.  :beers:
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: gainesvillegreen on June 19, 2011, 03:46:58 PM
Quote from: aphineday on June 19, 2011, 03:42:28 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 03:38:25 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on June 19, 2011, 03:27:30 PM
If you didn't experience the  :phish: scene before Jerry died, do not talk about the scene. You do not know what you are talking about.

It really is that simple.

IN by 1.5 months!
LOL I'm out. Fuck, I fail at Phish too?! Great :/

Missed out by 3 months, doh!  :wink:

Good opening CTB.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 19, 2011, 03:52:26 PM
Quote from: bacchist on June 19, 2011, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 10:27:43 AM
The Halley's > 46 Days segue is straight BUTTAH!
I think the Halley's jam was fun, but the actual segue was botched. Trey just forces it. There's no flow...

Was it botched or bacched?  I couldn't tell...
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on June 19, 2011, 03:52:44 PM
Quote from: bacchist on June 19, 2011, 03:10:12 PM
I'm only 28 myself... but old enough to remember people bitching on the internet before the band became a nostalgia act...

People have been bitching about Phish online since before the www.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: roggae on June 19, 2011, 04:07:10 PM
Quote from: tweezerfan on June 19, 2011, 01:07:02 PM
Wow, G. Augusto. You sound like a really cool person to be friends with.

Actually in real life he's a nice guy. We did the entire '94 HORDE tour together.
:wink:


Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 04:10:03 PM
Quote from: roggae on June 19, 2011, 04:07:10 PM
Quote from: tweezerfan on June 19, 2011, 01:07:02 PM
Wow, G. Augusto. You sound like a really cool person to be friends with.

Actually in real life he's a nice guy. We did the entire '94 HORDE tour together.
:wink:

Spin Doctors were on fire that Tour!
Phish...repeat city.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: roggae on June 19, 2011, 04:10:31 PM
I think we can all agree that been caught stealing is a song. No?
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 19, 2011, 04:12:53 PM
Quote from: roggae on June 19, 2011, 04:10:31 PM
I think we can all agree that been caught stealing is a song. No?

I'm leery of this statement.  It must be a trap.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: roggae on June 19, 2011, 04:14:00 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 19, 2011, 04:12:53 PM
Quote from: roggae on June 19, 2011, 04:10:31 PM
I think we can all agree that been caught stealing is a song. No?

I'm leery of this statement.  It must be a trap.

i've got twin toddlers.  i don't have time for traps.  i post in between time outs.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 19, 2011, 04:15:12 PM
I think that Been Caught Stealing is kind of a tone poem, personally.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: roggae on June 19, 2011, 04:16:22 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 04:10:03 PM
Quote from: roggae on June 19, 2011, 04:07:10 PM
Quote from: tweezerfan on June 19, 2011, 01:07:02 PM
Wow, G. Augusto. You sound like a really cool person to be friends with.

Actually in real life he's a nice guy. We did the entire '94 HORDE tour together.
:wink:

Spin Doctors were on fire that Tour!
Phish...repeat city.

i just checked today.  it was TBC, spin doctors, and blues traveler and my first time taking LSD in public.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 19, 2011, 04:18:21 PM
woah.  two princes....ON ACID!
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: bacchist on June 19, 2011, 04:25:33 PM
man you guys are true phish fans. wish i could be like you some day
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: aphineday on June 19, 2011, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: bacchist on June 19, 2011, 04:25:33 PM
man you guys are true phish fans. wish i could be like you some day
You'll get there, brah.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 04:30:29 PM
It wasn't easy.
Anyway, I never gave my review of this show...
Choo Choo!
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 19, 2011, 04:33:47 PM
but dude, that split is sick, bruh!
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: bacchist on June 19, 2011, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 19, 2011, 04:33:47 PM
but dude, that split is sick, bruh!
it's ok. i didn't hate it. kind of funny that everybody fluffing it says the best part was that the whole band pretty much stopped playing at one point.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on June 19, 2011, 04:41:18 PM
i listened to split with an open mind, ready to enjoy.....

props for them tryin to go there, but its just not very good.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on June 19, 2011, 04:47:52 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 04:41:18 PM
i listened to split with an open mind, ready to enjoy.....

props for them tryin to go there, but its just not very good.

gtfo out of my show's thread, hater!
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on June 19, 2011, 04:51:27 PM
Quote from: blatboom on June 19, 2011, 04:47:52 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 04:41:18 PM
i listened to split with an open mind, ready to enjoy.....

props for them tryin to go there, but its just not very good.

gtfo out of my show's thread, hater!

i resemble that remark.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Poster Nutbag on June 19, 2011, 05:16:05 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 04:41:18 PM
i listened to split with an open mind, ready to enjoy.....

props for them tryin to go there, but its just not very good.

I disagree, I thought it was a pretty nice Split, love the different composure of the elements of the Split jam... Just gonna stick to my original assessment and say that I thought after that spooky dip where it seemed like they were just gonna segue into something else like they usually do, Mike started to kick out those ending base lines too soon. He could have gave Trey a little more time to properly build that ending to the normal raging peak of most Split's, which would have topped this jam off beautifully. But I still like the fact that they did bring it back into the ending they did, rather than their normal fade out segue...
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: tweezerfan on June 19, 2011, 05:23:35 PM
"that they couldn't quite find their way back from the netherworld into the "Split's" final build. Getting a bit lost in this attempt, the guys finally bailed on the ending of the song, popping weakly into its final riffs. But anytime the band can't find their way back to earth because they've traveled so far into the cosmos, that's one kind blemish I can handle every single time." wow, that's funny. the split really isn't that great to me, cinny 09 is still a better version. mad props that they attempted to be creative.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Hicks on June 19, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on June 19, 2011, 03:46:58 PM
Quote from: aphineday on June 19, 2011, 03:42:28 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 03:38:25 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on June 19, 2011, 03:27:30 PM
If you didn't experience the  :phish: scene before Jerry died, do not talk about the scene. You do not know what you are talking about.

It really is that simple.

IN by 1.5 months!
LOL I'm out. Fuck, I fail at Phish too?! Great :/

Missed out by 3 months, doh!  :wink:


Yeah it looks I missed seeing Phish for real by about two months myself. 
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on June 19, 2011, 05:33:57 PM
I love all you noobs. I really do. You keep the "scene" so phresh.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: roggae on June 19, 2011, 05:37:02 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 19, 2011, 04:18:21 PM
woah.  two princes....ON ACID!


the only thing i remember really was TBC.  they blew my mind.  changed my entire idea of how music was supposed to go.  it was the firt time i really got jamming.  i'd seen them before open for ZZ top and there were like 20,000 people and it was all the hits.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: roggae on June 19, 2011, 05:41:50 PM
IMHO if you really love phish.  like really love them even when they suck that's all that matters.  i've got folks who've seen phish since '92 who could care less about the scene or what they played last night.  they still love the band.  i feel like thats where some of the folks on this board are at.
that's just the way i feel...

oh yeah and i thought last night's show sounded pretty darn good...on another note i think the actual engineering of the sound for this tour has been outstanding. when played through my tube amp it's pretty much like being there if you close my eyes.  perhaps it's the lack of drugs in my system though...
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: WhatstheUse? on June 19, 2011, 05:47:37 PM
I thought the melt was fucking great. 

I was even one of the few who dug the 3.0 style Melts, but it was fantastic to finally see them break away from that mold.

Fun show.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on June 19, 2011, 06:02:16 PM
^^ and this guy knows fun!
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on June 19, 2011, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: roggae on June 19, 2011, 05:41:50 PM
IMHO if you really love phish.  like really love them even when they suck that's all that matters.  i've got folks who've seen phish since '92 who could care less about the scene or what they played last night.  they still love the band.  i feel like thats where some of the folks on this board are at.
that's just the way i feel...

what you seem to fail to understand is that hating on a show or how the band is playing does not equate to hating the band.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on June 19, 2011, 06:07:59 PM
Quote from: blatboom on June 19, 2011, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: roggae on June 19, 2011, 05:41:50 PM
IMHO if you really love phish.  like really love them even when they suck that's all that matters.  i've got folks who've seen phish since '92 who could care less about the scene or what they played last night.  they still love the band.  i feel like thats where some of the folks on this board are at.
that's just the way i feel...

what you seem to fail to understand is that hating on a show or how the band is playing does not equate to hating the band.

There's some sort of old saying about how you have to love something to be able to hate it.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: roggae on June 19, 2011, 06:09:37 PM
Quote from: blatboom on June 19, 2011, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: roggae on June 19, 2011, 05:41:50 PM
IMHO if you really love phish.  like really love them even when they suck that's all that matters.  i've got folks who've seen phish since '92 who could care less about the scene or what they played last night.  they still love the band.  i feel like thats where some of the folks on this board are at.
that's just the way i feel...

what you seem to fail to understand is that hating on a show or how the band is playing does not equate to hating the band.

no.  i agree with that.  i was just trying to convey that all that matters to ME is that you love the band to begin with.  thats all.  i guess i didn't do a great job of conveying that message.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on June 19, 2011, 06:12:23 PM
Quote from: roggae on June 19, 2011, 06:09:37 PM
Quote from: blatboom on June 19, 2011, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: roggae on June 19, 2011, 05:41:50 PM
IMHO if you really love phish.  like really love them even when they suck that's all that matters.  i've got folks who've seen phish since '92 who could care less about the scene or what they played last night.  they still love the band.  i feel like thats where some of the folks on this board are at.
that's just the way i feel...

what you seem to fail to understand is that hating on a show or how the band is playing does not equate to hating the band.

no.  i agree with that.  i was just trying to convey that all that matters to ME is that you love the band to begin with.  thats all.  i guess i didn't do a great job of conveying that message.

gotcha.  I was real happy with both shows I saw this tour fwiw
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: roggae on June 19, 2011, 06:13:51 PM
Quote from: blatboom on June 19, 2011, 06:12:23 PM
Quote from: roggae on June 19, 2011, 06:09:37 PM
Quote from: blatboom on June 19, 2011, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: roggae on June 19, 2011, 05:41:50 PM
IMHO if you really love phish.  like really love them even when they suck that's all that matters.  i've got folks who've seen phish since '92 who could care less about the scene or what they played last night.  they still love the band.  i feel like thats where some of the folks on this board are at.
that's just the way i feel...

what you seem to fail to understand is that hating on a show or how the band is playing does not equate to hating the band.

no.  i agree with that.  i was just trying to convey that all that matters to ME is that you love the band to begin with.  thats all.  i guess i didn't do a great job of conveying that message.

gotcha.  I was real happy with both shows I saw this tour fwiw

man i love it when we all agree.  for me that's why i joined the 'paug.  don't get me wrong i like a good spirited debate.  however i like it when we all can agree that we still like this band.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: pcr3 on June 19, 2011, 06:23:45 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on June 19, 2011, 05:47:37 PM
I thought the melt was fucking great. 

I was even one of the few who dug the 3.0 style Melts, but it was fantastic to finally see them break away from that mold.

Fun show.

I felt the same way.  It was good to see them try to take some chances.

Gotta say, I was OK to leave after they played Peaches.  Hadn't seen one since NYE 96.  That was cool.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: susep on June 19, 2011, 06:35:36 PM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on June 19, 2011, 03:27:30 PM
If you didn't experience the  :phish: scene before Jerry died, do not talk about the scene. You do not know what you are talking about.

It really is that simple.

proud member since early 1994.  you've been reading too much Puterbaugh btw. :roll:
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Caravan2001 on June 19, 2011, 06:40:18 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 11:27:08 AM
Quote from: roggae on June 19, 2011, 11:25:42 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on June 19, 2011, 10:18:38 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on June 19, 2011, 10:15:51 AMyou were all like, "man, if they are this good now, imagine how they will sound in 13 years!"

TOTES!
That Alpine show is one of my Top 10 that I caught.

You talking '98? I'm so bummed we skipped this to get to deer creek a day early.

Yep.
Killer show.

Yeah, that show was tits.  We were up on these platforms on the back for the Been Caught Stealing....Great Fluff-Tweezer (or was it Tweezer->Fluff)  also a CTB that show and the 2001 is one of my faves....

Back on topic, I really like what I have heard from this show...Cool transition from Piper to Knife....
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on June 19, 2011, 06:42:52 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on June 19, 2011, 06:40:18 PM
Cool transition from Piper to Knife....

yeah that was cool.  always stoked for a MFMF
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on June 19, 2011, 07:35:04 PM
i'm glad i wasnt at this show on acid during the been caught stealin.....












































wait, no i'm not.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on June 19, 2011, 09:34:36 PM
About the vocal effect on been caught stealin'...

Let us never use that again.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on June 19, 2011, 10:26:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyrWRZxRKv8&feature=share
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Buffalo Budd on June 19, 2011, 10:30:13 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 19, 2011, 09:34:36 PM
About the vocal effect on been caught stealin'...

Let us never use that again.
Love that they played it and pretty well I might add but I agree with this.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: WhatstheUse? on June 21, 2011, 03:14:55 PM
I enjoyed that Caspian.  Some nice space towards the end.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: UncleEbinezer on June 21, 2011, 03:21:32 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on June 19, 2011, 10:30:13 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 19, 2011, 09:34:36 PM
About the vocal effect on been caught stealin'...

Let us never use that again.
Love that they played it and pretty well I might add but I agree with this.

Just before they started, they were joking about "ring my bell."  I was started to get excited for that, but I'll take some Jane's Addiction.  It was fun!
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: McGrupp on June 21, 2011, 07:37:46 PM
Quote from: UncleEbinezer on June 21, 2011, 03:21:32 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on June 19, 2011, 10:30:13 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 19, 2011, 09:34:36 PM
About the vocal effect on been caught stealin'...

Let us never use that again.
Love that they played it and pretty well I might add but I agree with this.

Just before they started, they were joking about "ring my bell."  I was started to get excited for that, but I'll take some Jane's Addiction.  It was fun!

I liked the vocal effect. It was just goofy.

Probably freaked a bunch of people out, too.
Title: Re: 06/18 - TWC Music Pavilion - Raleigh, NC - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: emay on June 22, 2011, 11:26:06 AM
I really enjoyed this Esther.