Rd. 2: Star Wars vs. 2001: A Space Odyssey

[cactusfan]

Star Wars vs. 2001: A Space Odyssey

[mistercharlie]

This is a tough one. I'll have to consider it awhile and come back.

[sls.stormyrider]

 not tough at all.
2001

predicts the future

[tet]

i don't normally vote against Kubrick... but when i do, it's somewhat more palpable to do so with Star Wars

[qop24]

hmm...one of the more profound, thought provoking films ever created....or a couple hours of meh eye candy loosely attached to an unbearably cheesy story told through impressively awful dialogue...


2001. Fucking duh.

[rowjimmy]

HAL 9000 was the best actor in 2001: A Space Oddity.

[mbw]

hmm...one of the more profound, thought provoking films ever created....or a couple hours of meh eye candy loosely attached to an unbearably cheesy story told through impressively awful dialogue...


2001. Fucking duh.

not tough at all.
2001

ah, a couple sane people speak up.

[khalpin]

Once again, I'll admit a severely tainted bias here as whenever I watch Star Wars, I become a six year old again.  I see any scene and I'm transfixed.  2001 on the other hand, I've never made it through in one sitting.

[natronzero]

Star Wars because fucking Star Wars.

[twatts]

There are no SW Theme > Dwds in the PH lexicon...

There are a few 2001 > DwDs...

T

[cactusfan]

sad to see 2001 going down.

it's one of the most amazing pieces of cinema ever created. there's truly nothing else like it. it was so different, and remains so different, that it didn't even point the way for other people, though some tried. there were some overheated 'important' sci-fi films of the '70s, but nothing ever came close.

it reimagined what a science fiction movie could be.

Kubrick won his only (!) oscar for it--for best special effects. well deserved, but in a world where Kevin Costner possesses a best director oscar, it's a sad thing.

and those special effects are amazing. they still look great.

it's a movie about an idea, which aside from 2001, i don't know if there's any movie that works without having a protagonist to follow. in 2001, the protagonist is humanity. that's a bold thing to try to pull off, and that Kubrick DID pull it off is incredible.

Star Wars, yeah, it's Star Wars. i guess for me, Star Wars impresses for what it pulled off despite it's absurd dialogue and overall goofiness. it's such a dopey, ridiculous movie, yet it works. and then, obviously, it became the offical Nerd Religion, something of a first in the history of movies.

Kubrick still wins for me, because taken just as a film, it's light years better. or, say, about 12 parsecs* better.




























*yeah, i know. that's the joke. cut it out.

[mistercharlie]

There are no SW Theme > Dwds in the PH lexicon...

There are a few 2001 > DwDs...

T

Yeah, but what about the Staw Wars Themed Antelopes? Those are always fun, we'll the two or three times Trey's done it.

[twatts]

Nerd Religion

Protestants vs. Catholics...  Muslims vs. Jews... 

http://video.adultswim.com/robot-chicken/sci-fi-con-fight.html?cid=vplayer_robot-chicken_sci-fi-con-fight

[danje]

2001 is my favorite movie. Like cactusfan said, there is truly nothing else like it. The level of beauty and patience in this movie is IMO, second to none. It takes me on a journey and captivates and engulfs me like no other film has.

[aphineday]

2001 wins this fight. Had it been Empire, it would have been a tougher fight.