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R17/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« on: January 09, 2014, 12:41:41 PM »
Link Tuesday, 07/29/1997
Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
Set 1: Theme From the Bottom, Beauty of My Dreams, Gumbo, Dirt, Sparkle, Ghost, Swept Away > Steep > Loving Cup
Set 2: Olivia's Pool, Run Like an Antelope > Wading in the Velvet Sea, Twist -> Taste, Sample in a Jar > Rocky Top, The Squirming Coil
Encore: Possum
Teases:
∑ Dave's Energy Guide tease in Twist
Notes: Twist contained DEG teases by Mike.

stream:  http://www.phishtracks.com/shows/1997-07-29

Alright, I've been obsessed with this show lately, particularly the Twist.  It gets out there, and I think they really find a brilliant place, musically speaking. 

My apologies on posting this so late.  Enjoy!  About to fire this up now and post a review.  I'll edit the OP as need be, to reflect reviews submitted, etc. 

The Reviews:
The Sophist
The Terry
The Emay
the pcr3
the Pieguy
the natron zero
the other Terry (aka Terry II)
The Superfreakie
The Caravan
The JJ
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Re: R16/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2014, 12:54:38 PM »
Love this show, been a while, good choice. 


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Re: R16/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2014, 01:00:41 PM »
Love this show, been a while, good choice.

This, I'm looking forward to revisiting this one with critical ears.
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Re: R16/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2014, 01:56:24 PM »
The Phish from Vermont
July 29th, 1997
Desert Sky Pavilion
Phoenix, AZ

Set I:

Theme From the bottom-  I like this is as an opener.  It's a pretty laid back version in my opinion.  Overall, it's pretty well played.  I think they cut right to the chase with the jam.  I also think it sets a pretty good tone for set one.  This one never really rages, which in some instances, I feel like is how the jam should be.  But like I said, something about the "laid back" nature of this version is nice to me.  Trey does bring the solo to a nice peak. 

Beauty of My Dreams-  Little 'grass.  Always a treat.  I dig it in the second slot.  Kicks the tempo up a notch, and also throws some diversity into the mix.  It's a solid version. 

Gumbo-  Now, I know everyone and their mother knows this Gumbo.  FTA'd.  None the less, it's a sick version.  Shit gets super THICK.  Dripping with that proto funk that would later emerge on the Fall '97 tour.  The jam gets right to the grit of it.  Which I like, this version doesn't fuck around at all.  Again, I like the diversity.  "soaring" tune to open > grass > some funk.  It def keeps it interesting.  The goods start even in the break down section.  Fucking Page earning that 'sammich.  It's loose but tight.  Right on the fine line they need to be walking. 

You can just tell in the second refrain, they're fucking bursting to launch into their new sound.  It's a common theme I noticed this tour.  That first jam of each show just oozes with anticipation and energy.  Trey throws on the les right away, and carves out some slow lines and eases into the thick of it.  The syncopation is nice.  That's all Fish too in my opinion.  Gotta love Mike and Page hanging back in the pocket.  Trey with the staccato picking is awesome too. 

~5:15 back of the worm sound emerging.  Dripping with lysergic awesomeness. Completely Trey led, but they operate as if it's one mind.  I again, love the syncopation by Fish, breaking the beat down at times.  Funk builds nicely, and slowly.  I also dig how it isn't all minor 7th oriented.  A lot of variation in what they are playing.  That's the fresh part about Summer '97 to me, it hadn't become a crutch, and the concept of reputation for inspiration hadn't been implicated either. 

~8:05 new theme coming out.  More syncopation.  I particularly dig Mike in this section.  Very chill.  Trey steps this very interesting melodic pattern, and builds it really well.  Again, playing with the rhythm.  His tone is spectacular to me.   

~10:15 It begins to get spacey.  I love how much room there is too breathe.  It never loses it's pace either.  Very ambient, just waiting to drop back into it.  Fish keeping it together as the rest of the band breaks it down. 

~12:00 ambient theme continues.  Very pretty sounding to me.  I love the sounds page is making.  It sets the mood perfectly.  The fizzle out is a nice ending too

Dirt-  I have always liked Dirt.  I dig the placement.  4th slot, 1st set.  Gets the ballad out of the way.  I think it also kinda goes with the ominous tone that was just set in the Gumbo jam.  It's an okay version.  Nothing memorable. 

Sparkle- piss break

Ghost-  This Ghost fucking RIPS.  I've always felt that the Euro '97 Ghosts give a nice glimpse of what is to come, it's kind of like eyeing a fifteen year old chick and going, "in a few years, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK me."  You just know.  The first American version (7/21) is that fruition to maturity.  It's evolved in a completely different way.  The next version 7/23, epitomizes the full potential of the song.  And I think 7/25 is the same way too.  This version.  It's soaring, raging, monster of porn0-funk from right out of the gates.  Encapsulating the Summer '97 sound. 

~3:03 right out of the gate they get down to cereal biznass.  Page gets thick with the clav, and Trey hones in on the worm inter-dimensional tone.  The staccato minor theme by Trey sets the tone for the first part of the jam.  I like how they go in and out syncopation with the funk theme. 

~5:16 steam picking up as they begin to build this beast.  I love the patience with Trey.  He could climax it right away, but they ride it up like a rollar coaster. 

~7:00 love the theme here.  The rhythm of it is very interesting to me.  It builds perfectly to me.  It's like a demonic sounding symphony at times. 

~8:10 Trey take off. 

~8:30 some wah action.  keepin' it in the pocket, bringing it back around

~10:45 and the PEAK begins...

~12:47 Nice little major key modulation   

~14:09 slides nicely into minor key bliss. sets up a great segue for -->

Swept Away > Steep- Love this tandem.  Great version.  I think the placement is perfect too.  It's also got an ominous tone to me. 

Loving Cup-  meh.  This is the only complaint about the show I have.  I've never been a loving cup fan.  I would have excused myself to beat the line to get another beer, or sat down.  Anti-climatic way to end set one IMO. 

SET BREAK. 
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Re: R16/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2014, 02:20:04 PM »
God Damn It I Never Signed UP!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: R16/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2014, 02:38:42 PM »
God Damn It I Never Signed UP!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: R16/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2014, 03:40:42 PM »
Set II

Olivia's Pool - eh.  Not too keen on this cheesy ditty.  But whatever, cheese dickery out of the way early to get to real meat of the set. 

Antelope-  Here we go.  Now we're cooking.  Extra long version.  Pretty standard through the composed sections.  Hose comes in the jam section and break down.  Pretty tight in the composed section. 

~2:50 we're off.  Trey comes out firing right away, very aggressive.  I fucking like it.  Jedi on a mission to split the inter-dimensional portal. 

~4:25 awesome little theme by Trey.  Very good use of outside the box tonality to build tension. 

~5:35 more awesome theme building, I really like how they keep bringing it back around

~7:12 more Jedi from Trey. 

~8:10 descent into very spacey territory

~9:25 I dig how it breaks down here, and is "falling" apart.  They use dynamics in the same way they normally use tension and release. 

~10:20 this build up is very cool to me, and just as quickly it gets spacey again, modulation into major key territory

I love that this ventures into atypical territory.  Awesome major key jam. 

I love how they tie back into the main jam.  Awesome peak.  And marco section. 

Velvet Sea- piss break

Twist- This is the highlight of the set and the show for me.  This has become a top 5 version of Twist for me. 

I love how the refrain fades nicely into the jam. 

~4:04 and we're off.  They settle into a nice groove to start this.  Keeping with the main theme of Twist. 

~7:30 developing nicely. 

~8:55 I really like what they do here and how it develops into this awesome "out there" theme

~10:20 here is where it really starts to come together.  This meta worm space to me. 

~11:00 I like how dark and twisted this gets, it's all Trey leading this to me, he's the one pushing inward like it's an implosion

~12:34 this is just fucking sinister psychedelia to me.  I would be losing my mind if I saw this live.  When I was listening to this tripping face a few months back.  It had me crawling up the fucking wall. 

~13:30 here's your type II jamz motherfuckers.  Evil, pure fucking evil.  I love the wah work by Trey.  The syncopation is very cool.  It goes against the rhythmic grain of the rest of the band. 

~15:33 a really nice melodic and major key jam develops here.  I dig the light and dark contrast of the jam.  shit's a journey

~17:05 it gets really blissful here

nice segue into -->

Taste- pretty good version.  jam section is slightly extended.  Hard to beat 7/22/97 though. 


Sample- meh


Rocky Top- Eh.  I'll take it.

Coil- I love a good Coil closer.  This is a great version.  Has a great ending jam by Page. 

Encore:

Possum-  ::leaves to get balloons::



 
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Re: R16/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2014, 04:02:35 PM »
Taste- pretty good version.  jam section is slightly extended.  Hard to beat 7/22/97 though. 

08/14/97 begs to differ.  nice review btw. 

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Re: R16/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2014, 06:37:00 PM »
God Damn It I Never Signed UP!!!!!!!!!!

THE LIST
The Sophist
The Terry
The Emay
the pcr3
the Pieguy
the natron zero
the other Terry (aka Terry II)
The Superfreakie
The Caravan
The JJ
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Re: R16/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2014, 10:25:58 AM »
I took the Twist -> Taste combo for a spin last night. Some Glorious James in the flesh!!

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Re: R16/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2014, 12:59:37 PM »
7/29/97
Desert Sky Pav, Phoenix AZ

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Theme - Always a good opener.  97 was such a great year for this song.  Super high energy to bring it back home.

BOMD - Does just what it's supossed to do.

Gumbo - Super deep summer funk.  Love the ambiant shit was page.  SOOOO GOOD.

Dirt - I liked it.

Sparkle - WHat else do I need to say.

Ghost - Page need to bring back these kind of ghost intros.  Right around 5min shit starts getting real deep and trey just keeps on diggin. Such fantastic teamwork and with trey taking the lead at about 12min and just kills.

Swept away>steep - Nice little set one breather.

Loving Cup - Straight :rawk:



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Olivia's pool - This first arrangment always me smile a bit. I wish it would have stuck around for a bit. BUt yeah.....shafty is better.

Antelope - And now we're off. Love the way trey tones back a bit after the intro.  And then a bit before 6 min mark starts getting real dirty dark.  Then everyone gets really spacy around 9 and stays there and loves it and trey comes back in the lead with some really beautiful stuff up until ripping into some more heavy riffs and then back to darker and then back to high gear before leading in the the rye rye.  Awesome fuck in the rye rye as well, real thick.  I LOVE THIS ANTELOPE!

Wading - Love the studio style looping effect intro, that needs to come back too.  Need a break after that lope and it's not bad either.

Twist - THis version is pretty great.  Gets super dark and keeps it going, and like sophist said yeah it's a journey; pretty fucking cool one too. Grade A twist.

Taste - I like it. 

Sample - My piss break song. Goota beat those crowds.

Rocky Top - Sure I love bluegrass.

Coil - Pages takes us out on a really cool note. 


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Possum - It's got some energy but thats about it.



Overall I have always really liked this show.  Summer 97 is one of the first tours that I really sat down and listened to straight thought and I think I can't do that with a lot of other ones.  B+/A- show, thanks for poiting me in the direction ramz.
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Re: R16/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2014, 01:12:06 PM »
I will get thsi done tonight. sorry fellas

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Re: R16/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2014, 01:37:04 PM »
Mine will be posted sometime today as well.
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Re: R16/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2014, 02:06:45 PM »
07/29/1997
Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ

Set 1:
Theme From the Bottom - tough to beat as an opener. Most notable is how this one ends. Trey is giviní Ďer all heís got, Captain!

Beauty of My Dreams - Fun first set ditty. I actually really love this song!

Gumbo - gotta love how this thing breaks down right away. Honestly, itís all Mike making this groove work with his funky minimalist lines. Not even 5 minutes in this thing is funky as hell.

Dirt - And from that killer Gumbo, a reminder that weíre still in the first set, I guess? I like this tune. No complaints.

Sparkle - and another 1st set staple. crowd goes wild

Ghost - I love Mikeís low-end vocals in the last refrain. Sofa king great! 10 minutes in and this funk is actually not boring. They are doing some fun shit. Mike just went into double-time. Page is on piano, not clav or whatever he defaults to in funk jams these days. Then the last few minutes are greatÖ Major chord jamming with feeling. And again, Mike is owning this shit.

Swept Away > Steep >  hard to believe, but I never saw one of these until 2010. Meh, never been my favorite. The one I saw was better than this, too.

Loving Cup - I will always love this tune. Great set closer.

Set 2:
Olivia's Pool - Iíve only heard this song in this format a handful of times. Very amusing and fun.

Run Like an Antelope > this song usually serves as an exclamation point on a big set. here itís the meat and potatoes for the early 2nd set. And it does not disappoint. about 9 minutes in and itís again all Mike making this interesting. Trey is literally noodling as heís often accused. But Mike is all over the place. Love the breakdown section here, too. Again, all Mike all night!

Wading in the Velvet Sea - meh

Twist -> What the hell happened to this thing? About 9 minutes in and Trey is all over the place but the rest of the band has fallen apart. This thing is out there. Tough to follow whatís happening at all. Not that itís bad, but itís all over the place.

Taste - Rages. Trey is in pure rage mode!

Sample in a Jar > meh

Rocky Top - I love this tune. I donít care who are.

The Squirming Coil - beautiful outtro solo from Page. Beautiful!

Encore: Possum - Rager to close!


overall a great show - B+. Good choice. I don't listen to a lot of summer 97. It's not my favorite era. I know. I know. I just don't particularly dig the Aud recordings out there for most of these shows, so I don't give it much time. Thanks for making me hear this one. I enjoyed it.
I've been coming to where I am from the get go
Find that I can groove with the beat when I let go
So put your worries on hold
Get up and groove with the rhythm in your soul

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Re: R16/W01 1997-07-29 Desert Sky Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2014, 09:39:16 PM »
Leaving Wednesday morning for.......Phoenix.  Also just hooked up a new pair of Etymotic ER-4's so looking forward to some concentrated listening.  Will rock this show in transit.  Is there a specific AUD source I should grab?