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Title: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on May 28, 2011, 11:27:31 PM
Phish - 05/282011 - Bethel Woods Center for the Arts - Bethel, NY


Set I:  Theme from the Bottom, NICU, Cities, Halley's Comet > Runaway Jim, Gumbo, Quinn the Eskimo > Limb by Limb, Horn, Bathtub Gin > Manteca > Bathtub Gin

Set II:  Down with Disease > Free, Backwards Down the Number Line, Makisupa Policeman* -> Harry Hood, Cavern, David Bowie

E:  A Day in the Life


*With lyrics referencing several band members' houses (and Trey's favorite show, House).
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 28, 2011, 11:29:33 PM
My thoughts are that everything up until Hood was fairly fucking awesome.  Numberline, Makisupa, Gin, Jim and the Halley's are all fantastic.

Hood and Bowie will receive some residual fluff, because of this.

Great show, but still not up to the bands full potential.

I give it a "B".
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: phil on May 28, 2011, 11:32:08 PM
gotta be optimistic about the direction they're heading. We've been hearing some very encouraging stuff imo.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 28, 2011, 11:34:39 PM
I agree.  They're obviously progressing and not regressing.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Poster Nutbag on May 28, 2011, 11:37:11 PM
Another solid show tonight, The first set looks nice!! can't wait to give it a full listen through...


and on another note check out Umphrey's on iclips...

http://www.iclips.net/watch/summer-camp-2011
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Play_It_Leo on May 28, 2011, 11:38:26 PM
The little bit I heard via stream (from Makisupa onward) sounded positive for the overall direction of the band. More patience, a little more interplay, continuing to have fun on stage. Really enjoyed some of these jams, looking forward to checking out the whole show tomorrow.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on May 28, 2011, 11:41:48 PM
The little bit I heard via stream (from Makisupa onward) sounded positive for the overall direction of the band. More patience, a little more interplay, continuing to have fun on stage. Really enjoyed some of these jams, looking forward to checking out the whole show tomorrow.

what shows are you hittin, dude?
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 28, 2011, 11:44:02 PM
Another solid show tonight, The first set looks nice!! can't wait to give it a full listen through...


and on another note check out Umphrey's on iclips...

http://www.iclips.net/watch/summer-camp-2011

enjoying it alot
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Play_It_Leo on May 28, 2011, 11:47:03 PM
The little bit I heard via stream (from Makisupa onward) sounded positive for the overall direction of the band. More patience, a little more interplay, continuing to have fun on stage. Really enjoyed some of these jams, looking forward to checking out the whole show tomorrow.

what shows are you hittin, dude?

I'll likely sit out this year unless there's some surprise shows in the fall. Kid #3 and some major house renovations aren't going to leave a lot of time or $. A show at DC would've been a possibility, but as it stands, I'll be hoping Trey or Mike swing by St. Louis again later this year.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: khalpin on May 28, 2011, 11:47:09 PM
Another solid show tonight, The first set looks nice!! can't wait to give it a full listen through...


and on another note check out Umphrey's on iclips...

http://www.iclips.net/watch/summer-camp-2011

enjoying it alot
Same here!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 28, 2011, 11:52:33 PM
Another solid show tonight, The first set looks nice!! can't wait to give it a full listen through...


and on another note check out Umphrey's on iclips...

http://www.iclips.net/watch/summer-camp-2011

enjoying it alot
Same here!
go here
http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=17618.msg575056;topicseen#msg575056
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: emay on May 28, 2011, 11:53:32 PM
I agree.  They're obviously progressing and not regressing.

This I can agree with!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 28, 2011, 11:55:43 PM
I agree.  They're obviously progressing and not regressing.

This I can agree with!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 28, 2011, 11:59:34 PM
Live Phish is up
http://livephish.com/live-music/0,591/Phish-mp3-flac-download-5-28-2011-Bethel-Woods-Center-For-The-Arts-Bethel-NY.html
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 12:04:12 AM
Set 1 Tracked AUD:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ne3umw
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: slslbs on May 29, 2011, 12:04:27 AM
Gin > Manteca > Gin

hmm
looks promising
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: emay on May 29, 2011, 12:04:42 AM
12 min Halleys :-o
now thats improvement
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 12:06:58 AM
Gin > Manteca > Gin

hmm
looks promising

Honestly, you might be a little disappointed with it.  The Runaway Jim, I thought was the best part of the first set.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 12:07:35 AM
Gin > Manteca > Gin

hmm
looks promising

Honestly, you might be a little disappointed with it.  The Runaway Jim, I thought was the best part of the first set.
:shakehead:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: aphineday on May 29, 2011, 12:24:08 AM
Now even more excited to hear. Seems like everyone is in agreement that we are moving forward. Great news.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on May 29, 2011, 12:26:20 AM
fauxpax?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E3aT2431XpA/TT8ELwPyiqI/AAAAAAAAIFs/ERF55L8FV54/s400/DebbieDownerRachaelDratch.jpg)
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 12:31:59 AM
fauxpax?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E3aT2431XpA/TT8ELwPyiqI/AAAAAAAAIFs/ERF55L8FV54/s400/DebbieDownerRachaelDratch.jpg)

Being honest and realistic about it.  I thought the manteca was pretty sloppy, and the gin ended before it truly hit it's stride.  It was good, but not as good as it could have been.

Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 12:35:04 AM
Oops sorry, what I should have said is:


OMFG SO FUCKING AWESOME THAT SHIT WAS SUPER AWESOME AND YOU CANNOT EVEN CONTEMPLATE HOW MUCH IT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND, GIVE UP YOUR ENTIRE LIFE AND GO ON TOUR, YOU WILL NEVER REGRET IT.

Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on May 29, 2011, 12:47:43 AM
mostly just busting balls
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on May 29, 2011, 12:48:09 AM
mostly
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 12:49:05 AM
mostly just busting balls

Mostly just busting back ;)

The show's very good.  The band's still not at the point where they could be, imo.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on May 29, 2011, 12:51:13 AM
I didn't listen.  My hearing is 99% shot so I can't stand these iphone streams people are doing.  Too high on the treble and my ears just can't take it so I don't even try these streams anymore
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 12:52:51 AM
I didn't listen.  My hearing is 99% shot so I can't stand these iphone streams people are doing.  Too high on the treble and my ears just can't take it so I don't even try these streams anymore

Sorry to hear that mang.  You manage to stay pretty positive despite the shitty hand you get dealt.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: gainesvillegreen on May 29, 2011, 12:54:31 AM
Looks like a good show on paper. Dig the Quinn, the Makisupa not so much. Looking forward to hearing the show.

Big Disease or short and forced?
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on May 29, 2011, 12:55:35 AM
well getting bent out of shape about it wouldn't do any good
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 12:59:35 AM
Looks like a good show on paper. Dig the Quinn, the Makisupa not so much. Looking forward to hearing the show.

Big Disease or short and forced?

The Disease isn't forced, but it's not huge either.  ~15 minutes.  The Numberline is pretty fucking bad ass, though.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 29, 2011, 01:49:04 AM
Allow me to be all  :wtu: :wtu: :wtu: about this one. I loved this show from start to finish. No low points. Fuck the haters phish is phucking back.




I may not be in an "objective" point of mind right now. I'm still "glowing" if you will.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on May 29, 2011, 02:01:51 AM
Allow me to be all  :wtu: :wtu: :wtu: about this one. I loved this show from start to finish. No low points. Fuck the haters phish is phucking back.




I may not be in an "objective" point of mind right now. I'm still "glowing" if you will.

 :clap:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on May 29, 2011, 02:03:40 AM
Allow me to be all  :wtu: :wtu: :wtu: about this one. I loved this show from start to finish. No low points. Fuck the haters phish is phucking back.

so what you're really trying to ssaaaayyy..... iss? ????
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 29, 2011, 02:12:43 AM
so what you're really trying to ssaaaayyy..... iss? ????

What I'm saying is this:  sometimes at a phish show I am moved to "spin" for long stretches. Yes, I am occasionaly  "that guy" spinning in the isle. That was me tonight. A bit tipsy on booze, no weed no other drugs, nothing... But that was me tonight. It was that good.

And, seriously, the last time that happened to me was 1995. So, perhaps tha says something. They were in it tonight. I loved this show.

Take that for what it is. I can't help but say there has been progress. These shows pick up where late fall left off IMO. 
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: ytowndan on May 29, 2011, 02:16:27 AM
I know it's a little early in the tour to judge, but I agree with PG.  There is definitely progress. 

I'm actually excited to hear where this is going. 
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Bobafett on May 29, 2011, 02:19:49 AM
so what you're really trying to ssaaaayyy..... iss? ????

What I'm saying is this:  sometimes at a phish show I am moved to "spin" for long stretches. Yes, I am occasionaly  "that guy" spinning in the isle. That was me tonight. A bit tipsy on booze, no weed no other drugs, nothing... But that was me tonight. It was that good.

And, seriously, the last time that happened to me was 1995. So, perhaps tha says something. They were in it tonight. I loved this show.

Take that for what it is. I can't help but say there has been progress. These shows pick up where late fall left off IMO.
love it. can you build a foundation for continual progression of the band?

I fuckin hope so.

I streamed the second set at work, so i didn't get to pay too close attention.  However, i def.noticed some better chops and a much better band interaction than i saw, read, and listened to of last fall.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: aphineday on May 29, 2011, 02:23:29 AM
Allow me to be all  :wtu: :wtu: :wtu: about this one. I loved this show from start to finish. No low points. Fuck the haters phish is phucking back.




I may not be in an "objective" point of mind right now. I'm still "glowing" if you will.

:-o Fuck. Yes.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on May 29, 2011, 02:25:31 AM
getting more bummed out about having to bail on Cinci.  At least I am still going to Cuyahoga Falls
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 29, 2011, 02:29:56 AM
You can say that again. ;-)
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whatapiper on May 29, 2011, 02:32:34 AM
looks fun on paper, cant wait for a listen
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: ytowndan on May 29, 2011, 02:36:47 AM
I'm diggin this Number Line.  :beers:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: gainesvillegreen on May 29, 2011, 02:48:43 AM
I'm diggin this Number Line.  :beers:

Stuck at work until 7:30 AM without a chance to listen to this. Any more VERBOSE reviews of this show by attendees or listeners will greatly help pass the time.

Thanks,
Drew
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: ytowndan on May 29, 2011, 02:55:50 AM
I'm diggin this Number Line.  :beers:

Stuck at work until 7:30 AM without a chance to listen to this. Any more VERBOSE reviews of this show by attendees or listeners will greatly help pass the time.

Thanks,
Drew

Ha.  I'm too drunk to get wordy. 
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on May 29, 2011, 06:02:43 AM
I got to listen to the first set before bed last night and it was pretty good. Cities was smooth, Halley's was nice and extended, the Jim was short but different, Trey was ripping shit up on the Quinn, LxL was full of evidence that Trey has been practicing, and then the Ginteca that thing was just plain awesome.
I'm throwing set II on my ipod for the drive to work today. I am very excited to hear it. The boys are moving forward and that's a good thing!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: spaced on May 29, 2011, 06:14:39 AM
I can't help but say there has been progress. These shows pick up where late fall left off IMO.

Exactly the takeaway for me, at least from listening to the stream. It's true as faux and others have pointed out that they aren't all the way "there" yet, but I've been trying to be a more glass-half-full person lately, and the fact that they are playing this well this early in the tour has me pretty excited. Just a solid show all around from what I heard, which was about 90% of it.

They aren't rushing jams, Trey is finally letting things develop organically, and they've clearly been practicing. Only time will tell, but this is exactly the kind of foundation they need for the rest of the tour, so I'm pretty optimistic. Too bad $$ and geography are going to keep me from seeing any of it in person, but oh well.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Gumbo72203 on May 29, 2011, 08:08:19 AM
interested to hear this.......


btw, haven't we seen this 2nd set before?  It looks AWFULLY familiar for some reason.......   Gore '09?  or RR? 
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on May 29, 2011, 08:47:26 AM
this Jim gave me a boner, just wish it was longer.

wait...i mean....
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: UncleEbinezer on May 29, 2011, 09:25:50 AM
12 min Halleys :-o
now thats improvement

QFMFT
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mattstick on May 29, 2011, 09:32:13 AM
Great show. My favorite since Red Rocks 09.

"welcome to my house" -Page
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: zackonthetrain on May 29, 2011, 10:03:56 AM
this Jim gave me a boner, just wish it was longer.

wait...i mean....

haha they make things for that

i agree with what everyone is saying, theybe been progressing from one day to the next, and thats all i ask.
 really excited about where this band is going so far

Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: thatfargone on May 29, 2011, 10:09:25 AM
These shows pick up where late fall left off IMO.

Now this I can get behind....picking up from fall and pretending Holiday run never happened. :wink:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: aphineday on May 29, 2011, 10:31:36 AM
These shows pick up where late fall left off IMO.

Now this I can get behind....picking up from fall and pretending Holiday run never happened. :wink:
There were a few moments in the MSG run that I saw some glimpses. On the whole, I agree with you.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mehead on May 29, 2011, 10:34:37 AM
:thoughts of pulling the trigger on Mansfield going through the brain:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 10:35:06 AM
:thoughts of pulling the trigger on Mansfield going through the brain:
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Do it!!!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: aphineday on May 29, 2011, 10:36:22 AM
:thoughts of pulling the trigger on Mansfield going through the brain:
Not the only one. I was planning on nothing first leg... fuck.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: McGrupp on May 29, 2011, 10:37:08 AM
I'm definitely seeing some improvement. I like where the band is at right now.

Making me really want to hit PNC...
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 10:56:09 AM
The skinny section still cracks me up!
http://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrack/phish-bethel-night-two-setlist-and-skinny/
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: thatfargone on May 29, 2011, 10:57:21 AM
I'm definitely seeing some improvement. I like where the band is at right now.

Making me really want to hit PNC...

DO IT!!!!   :-D
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 10:58:40 AM
Anybody else think it's kind of strange there have been no debuts yet.  Not complaining, but I expected to hear some new tunes.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: McGrupp on May 29, 2011, 11:00:48 AM
I'm definitely seeing some improvement. I like where the band is at right now.

Making me really want to hit PNC...

DO IT!!!!   :-D

so you guys are doing tues and wed for sure?
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: thatfargone on May 29, 2011, 11:01:38 AM
I'm definitely seeing some improvement. I like where the band is at right now.

Making me really want to hit PNC...

DO IT!!!!   :-D

so you guys are doing tues and wed for sure?

Got tix for both...we better.  LOL got orchestra for Wed for $35.00
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on May 29, 2011, 11:02:44 AM
I sorta missed Halleys > Jim as I was installing air conditioners (Summer is here!) but this first set is pretty good so far. Horn is just starting now and I'm marking Theme & Limb2x as highlights.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on May 29, 2011, 11:03:16 AM
Anybody else think it's kind of strange there have been no debuts yet.  Not complaining, but I expected to hear some new tunes.
not only that, but none of those shitty 2010 songs either.

think I just jinxed night 3
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: thatfargone on May 29, 2011, 11:03:56 AM
I sorta missed Halleys > Jim as I was installing air conditioners (Summer is here!) but this first set is pretty good so far. Horn is just starting now and I'm marking Theme & Limb2x as highlights.

Gotta install them shits pre-tour brah.  But, gonna be balls hot in VA today.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 11:04:05 AM
Anybody else think it's kind of strange there have been no debuts yet.  Not complaining, but I expected to hear some new tunes.
not only that, but none of those shitty 2010 songs either.

think I just jinxed night 3

TTE and Let me Lie are due!!!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on May 29, 2011, 11:04:05 AM
Anybody else think it's kind of strange there have been no debuts yet.  Not complaining, but I expected to hear some new tunes.

Don't jinx it.
I heard that Trey has Summer of '90 ready to bust out.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on May 29, 2011, 11:05:02 AM
I sorta missed Halleys > Jim as I was installing air conditioners (Summer is here!) but this first set is pretty good so far. Horn is just starting now and I'm marking Theme & Limb2x as highlights.

Gotta install them shits pre-tour brah.  But, gonna be balls hot in VA today.

I try to wait until June but, as our plans for today > tomorrow got scrapped, I'm doing it this weekend.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: McGrupp on May 29, 2011, 11:05:19 AM
I sorta missed Halleys > Jim as I was installing air conditioners (Summer is here!) but this first set is pretty good so far. Horn is just starting now and I'm marking Theme & Limb2x as highlights.

Theme was pretty hot. It's one song I'm especially critical of, partially because I love it so much and partially because they haven't been playing it that well in 3.0. I actually had to skip back and listen to a few trey licks because of the heat.

 :rawk:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: thatfargone on May 29, 2011, 11:09:23 AM
I sorta missed Halleys > Jim as I was installing air conditioners (Summer is here!) but this first set is pretty good so far. Horn is just starting now and I'm marking Theme & Limb2x as highlights.

Gotta install them shits pre-tour brah.  But, gonna be balls hot in VA today.

I try to wait until June but, as our plans for today > tomorrow got scrapped, I'm doing it this weekend.

Over 80 already in good ole Afton.  Perfect timing.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: McGrupp on May 29, 2011, 11:10:41 AM
I sorta missed Halleys > Jim as I was installing air conditioners (Summer is here!) but this first set is pretty good so far. Horn is just starting now and I'm marking Theme & Limb2x as highlights.

Gotta install them shits pre-tour brah.  But, gonna be balls hot in VA today.

I try to wait until June but, as our plans for today > tomorrow got scrapped, I'm doing it this weekend.

Over 80 already in good ole Afton.  Perfect timing.

Tomrorow's gonna be even worse, esp with humidity.

Gotta love VA!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on May 29, 2011, 11:11:46 AM
I sorta missed Halleys > Jim as I was installing air conditioners (Summer is here!) but this first set is pretty good so far. Horn is just starting now and I'm marking Theme & Limb2x as highlights.

Gotta install them shits pre-tour brah.  But, gonna be balls hot in VA today.

I try to wait until June but, as our plans for today > tomorrow got scrapped, I'm doing it this weekend.

Over 80 already in good ole Afton.  Perfect timing.

Tomrorow's gonna be even worse, esp with humidity.

Gotta love VA!

Yeah tomorrow is gonna be the nast.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: thatfargone on May 29, 2011, 11:12:26 AM


Gotta love VA!

Either that or move to Washington.  See ya @ the Gorge???  :-D
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: phil on May 29, 2011, 11:15:15 AM
I sorta missed Halleys > Jim as I was installing air conditioners (Summer is here!) but this first set is pretty good so far. Horn is just starting now and I'm marking Theme & Limb2x as highlights.

Gotta install them shits pre-tour brah.  But, gonna be balls hot in VA today.

I try to wait until June but, as our plans for today > tomorrow got scrapped, I'm doing it this weekend.

Over 80 already in good ole Afton.  Perfect timing.

Tomrorow's gonna be even worse, esp with humidity.

Gotta love VA!

Yeah tomorrow is gonna be the nast.
The fucking weather (http://www.thefuckingweather.com/?zipcode=22903)

According to this page, it is certifiably "fucking hot"
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: McGrupp on May 29, 2011, 11:18:08 AM


Gotta love VA!

Either that or move to Washington.  See ya @ the Gorge???  :-D

Hope ya like rain!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: thatfargone on May 29, 2011, 11:18:53 AM


Gotta love VA!

Either that or move to Washington.  See ya @ the Gorge???  :-D

Hope ya like rain!

Fucking love it!  Plus Gorge 3 hours away is soooooo much better than MPP.   :-P
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on May 29, 2011, 11:22:35 AM
Pardon the interruption... Based on an initial listen the Bathteca Gin was cool.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: McGrupp on May 29, 2011, 11:30:28 AM
Quinn is pretty rawkin. Shitloads of energy.

 :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 11:30:51 AM
Quinn is pretty rawkin. Shitloads of energy.

 :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:
:rockout: :rockout: :rockout:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: sunrisevt on May 29, 2011, 11:34:31 AM
Pardon the interruption... Based on an initial listen the Bathteca Gin was cool.

My observations from the site confirm rj's analysis.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: aphineday on May 29, 2011, 11:41:44 AM
Based on RJ reporting now, my excitement level to hear this is growing even more.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on May 29, 2011, 11:43:16 AM
Here's your grain of salt:

It's still 3.0.
But it's good for 3.0.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: phil on May 29, 2011, 11:46:52 AM
Here's your grain of salt:

It's still 3.0.
But it's good for 3.0.

(http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/photos/assets_c/2009/10/mikeydead-thumb-580xauto-23716.jpg)

MikeyRJ likes it!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: aphineday on May 29, 2011, 11:47:44 AM
Here's your grain of salt:

It's still 3.0.
But it's good for 3.0.
Gotcha. That's what I was assuming from 5/27's show.
I want to hear/see some more shows before I can think of actually calling it 3.1 in my book anyway.
BUT, this is a good start for sure.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mehead on May 29, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
I can't help but say there has been progress. These shows pick up where late fall left off IMO.


They aren't rushing jams, Trey is finally letting things develop organically, and they've clearly been practicing. Only time will tell, but this is exactly the kind of foundation they need for the rest of the tour, so I'm pretty optimistic.

yup
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mehead on May 29, 2011, 11:58:47 AM
really diggin' this Gin   

 :music:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 12:01:08 PM
really diggin' this Gin   

 :music:

wrong thread, but I am on Horn and about to listen to it myself.  Like what I heard through the stream last night.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: cleech74 on May 29, 2011, 12:01:39 PM
Can't wait to dl and listen to this one.

Baby deer, FTW!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: gah on May 29, 2011, 12:03:46 PM
Allow me to be all  :wtu: :wtu: :wtu: about this one. I loved this show from start to finish. No low points. Fuck the haters phish is phucking back.




I may not be in an "objective" point of mind right now. I'm still "glowing" if you will.

:-o Fuck. Yes.

This is exactly what I was waiting to hear. Thank you.  :clap:





 :beerbang: :rawk: :crazy:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on May 29, 2011, 12:04:59 PM
any aud recommendations?


n/m taylorc is the only option atm, that'll work
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mehead on May 29, 2011, 12:06:59 PM
really diggin' this Gin   

 :music:

Can a mod move this to the correct thread?    :police:

my bad on the epic failness
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: McGrupp on May 29, 2011, 12:07:45 PM
so tweeprise to encore tonight?
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mehead on May 29, 2011, 12:10:00 PM
so tweeprise to encore tonight?

(http://icons.iconarchive.com/icons/deleket/scrap/256/Lock-icon.png)
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on May 29, 2011, 12:10:19 PM
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 12:14:17 PM
This Gin delivers!
 :music:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mehead on May 29, 2011, 12:14:40 PM
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set

more awesomer than if it was the encore
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mehead on May 29, 2011, 12:15:06 PM
This Gin delivers!
 :music:

yup
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on May 29, 2011, 12:15:34 PM
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set

more awesomer than if it was the encore

harumph
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on May 29, 2011, 12:16:03 PM
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set

more awesomer than if it was the encore

my point exactly
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 12:16:05 PM
This Gin delivers!
 :music:

yup

My daughter is dancing to it too which is cracking me up!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mehead on May 29, 2011, 12:19:25 PM
This Gin delivers!
 :music:

yup

My daughter is dancing to it too which is cracking me up!

awesome!!

the whole family is doing some house cleaning and I've got last night blaring....caught my 15yr old daughter dancing to DWD - BUSTED!!!

the 9 yr old was digging the Cities

Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 12:26:56 PM
This is Phish's House!  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
http://onlinephishtour.com/2011/05/29/phishs-house/
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 12:29:11 PM
so tweeprise to encore tonight?

I've got it in my "daily dose".
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: justjezmund on May 29, 2011, 12:53:04 PM
 :crazy:
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set

I was hoping the sAme.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 12:53:30 PM
:crazy:
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set

I was hoping the sAme.

I kind of think that would be lame.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: ph92 on May 29, 2011, 01:02:14 PM
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set
What if they are using AT&T's plan and using their rollover tweeprises to save up all for one show :D

One set made up of a bunch of crazy insane tweeprises!!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 01:03:04 PM
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set
What if they are using AT&T's plan and using their rollover tweeprises to save up all for one show :D

One set made up of a bunch of crazy insane tweeprises!!

Awaits 92's post in the "Right now I'm smoking" thread.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: ph92 on May 29, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
Oh and, this Halley's is really nice.

I think yall are overlooking that Cities too, that has some h33t in it.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: McGrupp on May 29, 2011, 01:07:15 PM
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set
What if they are using AT&T's plan and using their rollover tweeprises to save up all for one show :D

One set made up of a bunch of crazy insane tweeprises!!

Awaits 92's post in the "Right now I'm smoking" thread.

I, for one, would love to know wtf he was smoking before he posted that.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: ph92 on May 29, 2011, 01:08:59 PM
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set
What if they are using AT&T's plan and using their rollover tweeprises to save up all for one show :D

One set made up of a bunch of crazy insane tweeprises!!

Awaits 92's post in the "Right now I'm smoking" thread.

I, for one, would love to know wtf he was smoking before he posted that.
Dude I found this clear chillum on the street downtown, it had some residue in it, I just packed it up and smoked it....

Have you guys ever had the urge to just do crack?

Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: MiamiPhish on May 29, 2011, 01:16:39 PM
Have you guys ever had the urge to just do crack?

Seriously, Donnie..  :shakehead:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: McGrupp on May 29, 2011, 01:16:45 PM
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set
What if they are using AT&T's plan and using their rollover tweeprises to save up all for one show :D

One set made up of a bunch of crazy insane tweeprises!!

Awaits 92's post in the "Right now I'm smoking" thread.

I, for one, would love to know wtf he was smoking before he posted that.
Dude I found this clear chillum on the street downtown, it had some residue in it, I just packed it up and smoked it....

Have you guys ever had the urge to just do crack?

Comic genius, or sheer failure: The phishhead92 conundrum.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: MiamiPhish on May 29, 2011, 01:17:51 PM
Halfway through Harry Hood and this show FLOWS so well... not a down moment thus far in set II.  I was worried about the Free, which I pretty much consider a buzzkill set-killer at times, and this one was perfectly placed, imo, and just sounded GOOD!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 01:18:19 PM
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set
What if they are using AT&T's plan and using their rollover tweeprises to save up all for one show :D

One set made up of a bunch of crazy insane tweeprises!!

Awaits 92's post in the "Right now I'm smoking" thread.

I, for one, would love to know wtf he was smoking before he posted that.
Dude I found this clear chillum on the street downtown, it had some residue in it, I just packed it up and smoked it....

Have you guys ever had the urge to just do crack?

Comic genius, or sheer failure: The phishhead92 conundrum.

I didn't think it was funny or witty, but maybe it's lack of wit is funny or witty?  Is that what you mean?
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 01:19:35 PM
Halfway through Harry Hood and this show FLOWS so well... not a down moment thus far in set II.  I was worried about the Free, which I pretty much consider a buzzkill set-killer at times, and this one was perfectly placed, imo, and just sounded GOOD!
You can hear the patience as I said in the LST last night.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: McGrupp on May 29, 2011, 01:19:50 PM
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set
What if they are using AT&T's plan and using their rollover tweeprises to save up all for one show :D

One set made up of a bunch of crazy insane tweeprises!!

Awaits 92's post in the "Right now I'm smoking" thread.

I, for one, would love to know wtf he was smoking before he posted that.
Dude I found this clear chillum on the street downtown, it had some residue in it, I just packed it up and smoked it....

Have you guys ever had the urge to just do crack?

Comic genius, or sheer failure: The phishhead92 conundrum.

I didn't think it was funny or witty, but maybe it's lack of wit is funny or witty?  Is that what you mean?

I meant what you think I mean.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: ph92 on May 29, 2011, 01:23:21 PM
I'm joking, I have seen some minor evils of crack are because I have spent copious time in Baltimore... I step on them if I see them, no one should do crack...

But back to the show. I thought that Jim was really interesting, I like that page and trey interplay starts about 2:30 in
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 01:23:57 PM
Halfway through Harry Hood and this show FLOWS so well... not a down moment thus far in set II.  I was worried about the Free, which I pretty much consider a buzzkill set-killer at times, and this one was perfectly placed, imo, and just sounded GOOD!
You can hear the patience as I said in the LST last night.

I don't think the Hood is patient at all.  Same with the Gin.  Trey wasn't straight up "aborting" jams last night, but I wouldn't exactly call him patient.

I think a jam like the 12/31/95 Weekapaug shows patience.  Trey's problem right now isn't that he's unwilling to stretch jams out, but he's unwilling to patiently listen to everyone else (especially page) and wants to force a jam to rawk out and be awesome.

That said, I'm glad you're enjoying phish so much.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whatapiper on May 29, 2011, 01:40:47 PM
I'll be spinning this one during the show tonight, I may finally be around for an LST
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on May 29, 2011, 01:56:42 PM
:crazy:
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set

I was hoping the sAme.

I kind of think that would be lame.

what's lame is them playing a whole show plus a song or two in the encore then everybody turning to each other and saying "here comes Tweezer Reprise"


I'm reminded of the Weekapaug in Cinci '03 which was like the 4th song. I wasn't expecting it then and there and it was badass
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 02:19:22 PM
:crazy:
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set

I was hoping the sAme.

I kind of think that would be lame.

what's lame is them playing a whole show plus a song or two in the encore then everybody turning to each other and saying "here comes Tweezer Reprise"


I'm reminded of the Weekapaug in Cinci '03 which was like the 4th song. I wasn't expecting it then and there and it was badass

I was expecting it (the Weekapaug in second night Cincy) and I know what you're getting at, but I disagree.  I think the bookmarking of the sets is a good idea that wasn't expected Friday night.

I wonder if they'll play Friday during the encore tonight ;)
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on May 29, 2011, 02:25:41 PM
you were expecting the Weekapaug mid first-set? you're good.


I agree about Friday (the day, not the song).  the thing is though that once they didn't play Reprise it became immediately apparent they were saving it for the very end.  idk maybe they'll surprise me
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 02:30:36 PM
you were expecting the Weekapaug mid first-set? you're good.


I agree about Friday (the day, not the song).  the thing is though that once they didn't play Reprise it became immediately apparent they were saving it for the very end.  idk maybe they'll surprise me

I think not playing at all and saving it for the very end of tour would be cooler than playing it mid first set today.  Mid set today makes absolutely no sense and would be a noodle scratcher that wouldn't show any cleverness at all.  I get it that you think the Tweeprize is predictable, however throwing some unpredictability into the mix is very cool.  However defying all of the logic of the placement of Tweeprize (which throwing it into a random first set of the run is, imo) kinda of ruins the effect, kinda of like a movie where all logic that the movie builds up goes out the window.

I wasn't specifically thinking that the Weekapaug would show up in the first set, however it was obvious that they were going to play it sometime throughout the second night.  I wasn't surprised at all that it popped up in the first set tho.  That segue out of Piper is pretty damn cool, though.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on May 29, 2011, 02:35:28 PM
Tweezer Reprises are a dime a dozen.  I love it and never really get tired of it but I think placing it somewhere it usually isn't placed makes it a cooler version.  I get everything you're saying though.


re: the Paug, ya I knew they were going to play it too, I just thought it worked well busting it out mid set when I was expecting it to close a set.  /off topic
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 02:47:55 PM
Tweezer Reprises are a dime a dozen.  I love it and never really get tired of it but I think placing it somewhere it usually isn't placed makes it a cooler version.  I get everything you're saying though.


re: the Paug, ya I knew they were going to play it too, I just thought it worked well busting it out mid set when I was expecting it to close a set.  /off topic
:beers:  For a good discussion that doesn't devolve into us being butthurt because we have slightly differing opinions.

It would have been mesmerizingly cool if they randomly played Tweeprize in the first set of the first show and then encored the third night with Tweezer.

I don't think Trey can think about it that abstractly yet ;)
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whatapiper on May 29, 2011, 02:49:44 PM
Tweezer Reprises are a dime a dozen.  I love it and never really get tired of it but I think placing it somewhere it usually isn't placed makes it a cooler version.  I get everything you're saying though.


re: the Paug, ya I knew they were going to play it too, I just thought it worked well busting it out mid set when I was expecting it to close a set.  /off topic
:beers:  For a good discussion that doesn't devolve into us being butthurt because we have slightly differing opinions.

It would have been mesmerizingly cool if they randomly played Tweeprize in the first set of the first show and then encored the third night with Tweezer.

I don't think Trey can think about it that abstractly yet ;)

faux, you're going to hit 10k today!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 02:50:42 PM
Tweezer Reprises are a dime a dozen.  I love it and never really get tired of it but I think placing it somewhere it usually isn't placed makes it a cooler version.  I get everything you're saying though.


re: the Paug, ya I knew they were going to play it too, I just thought it worked well busting it out mid set when I was expecting it to close a set.  /off topic
:beers:  For a good discussion that doesn't devolve into us being butthurt because we have slightly differing opinions.

It would have been mesmerizingly cool if they randomly played Tweeprize in the first set of the first show and then encored the third night with Tweezer.

I don't think Trey can think about it that abstractly yet ;)

faux, you're going to hit 10k today!

Searches for posts to delete ;)
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on May 29, 2011, 02:51:26 PM
Tweezer Reprises are a dime a dozen.  I love it and never really get tired of it but I think placing it somewhere it usually isn't placed makes it a cooler version.  I get everything you're saying though.


re: the Paug, ya I knew they were going to play it too, I just thought it worked well busting it out mid set when I was expecting it to close a set.  /off topic
:beers:  For a good discussion that doesn't devolve into us being butthurt because we have slightly differing opinions.

It would have been mesmerizingly cool if they randomly played Tweeprize in the first set of the first show and then encored the third night with Tweezer.

I don't think Trey can think about it that abstractly yet ;)

faux, you're going to hit 10k today!

Searches for posts to delete ;)

you wont have to look far!   :evil:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 02:52:09 PM
Here's a rough video of Gin> Manteca that surely showcases ck5
http://phishvidcollection.blogspot.com/2011/05/tour-tidbits-bethel-052811.html
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: JPhishman on May 29, 2011, 03:03:43 PM
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set
What if they are using AT&T's plan and using their rollover tweeprises to save up all for one show :D

One set made up of a bunch of crazy insane tweeprises!!

Awaits 92's post in the "Right now I'm smoking" thread.

I, for one, would love to know wtf he was smoking before he posted that.
Dude I found this clear chillum on the street downtown, it had some residue in it, I just packed it up and smoked it....

Have you guys ever had the urge to just do crack?

Comic genius, or sheer failure: The phishhead92 conundrum.

 :lol:


I'm getting so facking PUMPED! The Phish are coming out of the gates with some hot shit. What a relief.

 :rawk:

 :phish:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: gainesvillegreen on May 29, 2011, 03:09:47 PM
I'll be spinning this one during the show tonight, I may finally be around for an LST

Same here. I did listen to the Gin though, liked the playfulness with the Manteca.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on May 29, 2011, 03:10:42 PM
Fun show with a nice Gin.
Otherwise, 3.0 rolls on.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: pcr3 on May 29, 2011, 03:22:19 PM
Just got back to Boston from my single night of Bethel.  Too tired to post a full review, but I enjoyed this show a lot more than I thought I would.  It could be because I had the ideal seat for the night, or it could be because the band went to a few places that I have only seen one other time in 3.0, the Seven Below/Ghost from Albany 09.  And the extended Halley's was a nice treat as well.

I'll have to give it a re-listen soon, but the Disease jam got into this cool little pocket for a bit.  I say "cool" because they were actually doing some things with the music, jamming if you will, and it was kind of neat to see the band jam a song out in a way that I could actually say to myself, "they are jamming, I don't care much for this particular jam, but they are jamming".  I'm not sure how to explain that feeling, but it was nice to have more than one moment of "it" at a show to choose from.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on May 29, 2011, 03:23:55 PM
Tweezer Reprises are a dime a dozen.  I love it and never really get tired of it but I think placing it somewhere it usually isn't placed makes it a cooler version.  I get everything you're saying though.


re: the Paug, ya I knew they were going to play it too, I just thought it worked well busting it out mid set when I was expecting it to close a set.  /off topic
:beers:  For a good discussion that doesn't devolve into us being butthurt because we have slightly differing opinions.

It would have been mesmerizingly cool if they randomly played Tweeprize in the first set of the first show and then encored the third night with Tweezer.

I don't think Trey can think about it that abstractly yet ;)

faux, you're going to hit 10k today!

Searches for posts to delete ;)

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Serially, tho, Horn sounds good aside from Trey missing a note.

I loked the Halleys > Jim thing but I'm not gonna get all nuts over it. It was just ok.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: justjezmund on May 29, 2011, 04:12:26 PM
:crazy:
how awesome would it be if they dropped it in the middle of the first set

I was hoping the sAme.

I kind of think that would be lame.

what's lame is them playing a whole show plus a song or two in the encore then everybody turning to each other and saying "here comes Tweezer Reprise"


I'm reminded of the Weekapaug in Cinci '03 which was like the 4th song. I wasn't expecting it then and there and it was badass
I first thought of Boston 03 outta that short paug.  Reprise out of encore or closing spot=great news for my head.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on May 29, 2011, 04:22:21 PM
I'm only up through Hood so far But this show is sweet.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: gainesvillegreen on May 29, 2011, 04:24:14 PM
Plasma tease in Halley's?
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 04:35:39 PM
Do you guys disagree with the official notation lacking a proper "Manteca"?

I think the band fully played Manteca, as mike started "teasing" the bass line about 20 seconds before the song.

I think some people fail to remember that the original album version of Manteca is only about :29 long.

What do you guys think?

I say it's a Gin-->Manteca-->Gin
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 04:37:05 PM
Quinn Vid
http://phishvidcollection.blogspot.com/2011/05/tour-tidbits-bethel-052811-mighty-quinn.html
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: pcr3 on May 29, 2011, 04:54:10 PM
Do you guys disagree with the official notation lacking a proper "Manteca"?

I think the band fully played Manteca, as mike started "teasing" the bass line about 20 seconds before the song.

I think some people fail to remember that the original album version of Manteca is only about :29 long.

What do you guys think?

I say it's a Gin-->Manteca-->Gin

I have it that way on my setlist from last night.  Even though they played it fast, it was longer than 29 seconds as well.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: gainesvillegreen on May 29, 2011, 05:09:34 PM
Do you guys disagree with the official notation lacking a proper "Manteca"?

I think the band fully played Manteca, as mike started "teasing" the bass line about 20 seconds before the song.

I think some people fail to remember that the original album version of Manteca is only about :29 long.

What do you guys think?

I say it's a Gin-->Manteca-->Gin

I think you are right with that listing.

I also think there is a significant Plasma tease by Trey in Halley's. In the last 4 minutes.

This Cities is really good. Not Berkeley good, but I could listen to Trey play like that all night.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on May 29, 2011, 05:09:37 PM
Do you guys disagree with the official notation lacking a proper "Manteca"?

I think the band fully played Manteca, as mike started "teasing" the bass line about 20 seconds before the song.

I think some people fail to remember that the original album version of Manteca is only about :29 long.

What do you guys think?

I say it's a Gin-->Manteca-->Gin

I have it that way on my setlist from last night.  Even though they played it fast, it was longer than 29 seconds as well.

I think they've left Manteca off of last night's 'official' setlist so that they don't have to pay royalties on it. Same thing with the NYE Yemteca.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 05:13:25 PM
Do you guys disagree with the official notation lacking a proper "Manteca"?

I think the band fully played Manteca, as mike started "teasing" the bass line about 20 seconds before the song.

I think some people fail to remember that the original album version of Manteca is only about :29 long.

What do you guys think?

I say it's a Gin-->Manteca-->Gin

I have it that way on my setlist from last night.  Even though they played it fast, it was longer than 29 seconds as well.

I think they've left Manteca off of last night's 'official' setlist so that they don't have to pay royalties on it. Same thing with the NYE Yemteca.

I think that's pretty lame.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Caravan2001 on May 29, 2011, 06:00:34 PM
Only up to the Jim, but this shit is banging!  The whole house is rocking...Trey seems to have had a little fire lit under his ass, he's getting after it.  His tone has changed slightly, and there are some subtle changes to his playing that makes me think hes been doing some practicing during the Spring.  Did he take some lessons from Clapton?  Heard some stuff I've never heard Trey do, which rocks.  Like I said, I am only on the Jim but I am VERY much digging this.  Why is  NY so far, now I am jonesing to go to IX....
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on May 29, 2011, 06:03:04 PM
the jim is righteous.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: susep on May 29, 2011, 06:38:01 PM
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Phish - 05/282011 - Bethel Woods Center for the Arts - Bethel, NY


Set I:  Theme from the Bottom, NICU, Cities, Halley's Comet > Runaway Jim, Gumbo, Quinn the Eskimo > Limb by Limb, Horn, Bathtub Gin > Manteca > Bathtub Gin

Set II:  Down with Disease > Free, Backwards Down the Number Line, Makisupa Policeman* -> Harry Hood, Cavern, David Bowie

E:  A Day in the Life


*With lyrics referencing several band members' houses (and Trey's favorite show, House).

Another decent show, perhaps a nod or two above 27May.  Absolutely love the Halley's > Jim.  Once I realized they were going to jam Halley's, jubilation.  Sure not a 20+ min. version but still preety good and the segue into a rocking/Jerry Harrison-esque Jim was tits as well.  MC called a set ending Gin ala 9July2003 in the LST, nice call. 
From set II I liked the DwD, Trey sounds more intentful in both his rythym and lead playing.  Backwards was good also, again Trey playing some nice consonant and for 3.0, creative lines.  The Makisupa is super w/ Mike's, Page's and the on a dime segue into Fishman's house Harry Hood.  Even w/ the level of improv. noticeably better, they also are bringing back their spontaneity in sets/song selection.  Ending the set w/ Bowie is the icing. 
Sure its early but hey its better then me complaining about Trey's inability to play or their complete lack of gestalt whereas in the first 2 shows we're hearing a different band.   
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Hicks on May 29, 2011, 06:56:44 PM
I'm definitely hearing the effortless/relaxed quality that I heard in the 1-1-11 Twist surface again. 

While I wouldn't label this show as amazing or anything, I don't see how anybody couldn't be encouraged by the jams here, particularly the Gin and DWD.  Let's hope that this story continues to develop. . .
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on May 29, 2011, 07:09:30 PM
that Manteca didn't sound very Manteca-y to me.  more like the words were just sung over the jam
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 29, 2011, 07:23:16 PM
bdtnl official video is up!
http://phishvidcollection.blogspot.com/2011/05/official-cut-52811-bethel-ny-backwards.html
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 07:45:00 PM
that Manteca didn't sound very Manteca-y to me.  more like the words were just sung over the jam

I'll have to listen again...Mike was playing the bassline for twenty seconds.  During the LST someone said "is this manteca" long before any lyrics were sung.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: blatboom on May 29, 2011, 07:47:29 PM
yeah I may need to listen too, his bass was very effects laden iirc
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2011, 07:49:52 PM
yeah I may need to listen too, his bass was very effects laden iirc

At least we have something worth discussing  :tte:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on May 29, 2011, 08:05:42 PM
I'm definitely hearing the effortless/relaxed quality that I heard in the 1-1-11 Twist surface again. 

While I wouldn't label this show as amazing or anything, I don't see how anybody couldn't be encouraged by the jams here, particularly the Gin and DWD.  Let's hope that this story continues to develop. . .

The Gin was great, but I find the Disease to be the same 3.0 rendition, complete with the spacey outro.
I'm not crazy about the Manteca, tho.
It's kinda like the Manchester show where they were just throwing in stuff for it to be rad.
The Manteca was just thrown in there last night (over a hot Golden Age groove) and was way pitchy, Dog.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Hicks on May 30, 2011, 01:19:51 AM
I'm definitely hearing the effortless/relaxed quality that I heard in the 1-1-11 Twist surface again. 

While I wouldn't label this show as amazing or anything, I don't see how anybody couldn't be encouraged by the jams here, particularly the Gin and DWD.  Let's hope that this story continues to develop. . .

The Gin was great, but I find the Disease to be the same 3.0 rendition, complete with the spacey outro.
I'm not crazy about the Manteca, tho.
It's kinda like the Manchester show where they were just throwing in stuff for it to be rad.
The Manteca was just thrown in there last night (over a hot Golden Age groove) and was way pitchy, Dog.

Hmmm, I heard something in that DWD that sounded a bit unique to me, more of a melodic mellow groove than the standard issue 3.0 space. 
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 30, 2011, 02:42:52 AM
I'm definitely hearing the effortless/relaxed quality that I heard in the 1-1-11 Twist surface again. 

While I wouldn't label this show as amazing or anything, I don't see how anybody couldn't be encouraged by the jams here, particularly the Gin and DWD.  Let's hope that this story continues to develop. . .

The Gin was great, but I find the Disease to be the same 3.0 rendition, complete with the spacey outro.
I'm not crazy about the Manteca, tho.
It's kinda like the Manchester show where they were just throwing in stuff for it to be rad.
The Manteca was just thrown in there last night (over a hot Golden Age groove) and was way pitchy, Dog.

I don't really like the Manteca either, but they're definitely playing an off key sped up manteca...I think it is coincidental that it sounds like "Golden Age".

It is obviously a full band manteca and not a tease.  You can hear manteca for about 30 seconds before the lyrics come in (I just listened to it.)
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on May 30, 2011, 05:53:34 AM
that Manteca didn't sound very Manteca-y to me.  more like the words were just sung over the jam

I'll have to listen again...Mike was playing the bassline for twenty seconds.  During the LST someone said "is this manteca" long before any lyrics were sung.

I think it was Dan who said that.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: aphineday on May 30, 2011, 12:24:14 PM
I'm definitely hearing the effortless/relaxed quality that I heard in the 1-1-11 Twist surface again. 

While I wouldn't label this show as amazing or anything, I don't see how anybody couldn't be encouraged by the jams here, particularly the Gin and DWD.  Let's hope that this story continues to develop. . .

The Gin was great, but I find the Disease to be the same 3.0 rendition, complete with the spacey outro.
I'm not crazy about the Manteca, tho.
It's kinda like the Manchester show where they were just throwing in stuff for it to be rad.
The Manteca was just thrown in there last night (over a hot Golden Age groove) and was way pitchy, Dog.

Hmmm, I heard something in that DWD that sounded a bit unique to me, more of a melodic mellow groove than the standard issue 3.0 space. 
I'm with you. I just listened for the second time. Definitely better than most if not all DWD 3.0's I've heard.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 30, 2011, 12:48:19 PM
I'm definitely hearing the effortless/relaxed quality that I heard in the 1-1-11 Twist surface again. 

While I wouldn't label this show as amazing or anything, I don't see how anybody couldn't be encouraged by the jams here, particularly the Gin and DWD.  Let's hope that this story continues to develop. . .

The Gin was great, but I find the Disease to be the same 3.0 rendition, complete with the spacey outro.
I'm not crazy about the Manteca, tho.
It's kinda like the Manchester show where they were just throwing in stuff for it to be rad.
The Manteca was just thrown in there last night (over a hot Golden Age groove) and was way pitchy, Dog.

Hmmm, I heard something in that DWD that sounded a bit unique to me, more of a melodic mellow groove than the standard issue 3.0 space. 
I'm with you. I just listened for the second time. Definitely better than most if not all DWD 3.0's I've heard.

The DWD is facking awesome.  Now if they'd only rememember that it has an ending, too.   :roll:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whatapiper on May 30, 2011, 12:59:07 PM
Finally listened to the first set last night, I really enjoyed the Theme opener, Haley's was fun and unexpected.   Gin had great potential but the > Manteca killed it for me, more a gimmick than on the spot creativity IMO.  Still have not played this DWD. 
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Undermind on May 30, 2011, 01:23:04 PM
Some pretty sweet pic of 5/28
http://jackrileyphoto.blogspot.com/2011/05/blog-post_30.html
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: WhatstheUse? on May 30, 2011, 04:43:12 PM
Okay, so no one else seems to be freaking out about this show too much so allow me.....

THIS SHOW WAS FUCKING FANTASTIC!!!!!  :wtu:  Definitely one of the better 3.0 shows played.

Theme opener.
Rockin' cities.
HALLEYS JAM!!!!!
Jammed out plinko-funk in the middle of Jim
Best 3.0 Gin yet?
Great ambience @ the end of DWD
NUMBER LINE!!!!!!!!!
and the most fun Makisupa I have seen. PAGE'S HOUSE!!!!  and a seriously slick segue into Harry Hood :smoke:

The show flowed so fantastically and the band seemed incredibly relaxed.  This show gets me SO excited for the rest of summer!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mbw on May 30, 2011, 04:44:11 PM
Okay, so no one else seems to be freaking out about this show too much so allow me.....

THIS SHOW WAS FUCKING FANTASTIC!!!!!  :wtu:  Definitely one of the better 3.0 shows played.

Theme opener.
Rockin' cities.
HALLEYS JAM!!!!!
Jammed out plinko-funk in the middle of Jim
Best 3.0 Gin yet?
Great ambience @ the end of DWD
NUMBER LINE!!!!!!!!!
and the most fun Makisupa I have seen. PAGE'S HOUSE!!!!  and a seriously slick segue into Harry Hood :smoke:

The show flowed so fantastically and the band seemed incredibly relaxed.  This show gets me SO excited for the rest of summer!

nice!  we fluffed it pretty hard in the lst.
got me pretty psyched for friday.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: sunrisevt on May 30, 2011, 04:55:35 PM
Yer gonna love it.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mistercharlie on May 30, 2011, 05:05:29 PM
Okay, so no one else seems to be freaking out about this show too much so allow me.....

THIS SHOW WAS FUCKING FANTASTIC!!!!!  :wtu:  Definitely one of the better 3.0 shows played.

Theme opener.
Rockin' cities.
HALLEYS JAM!!!!!
Jammed out plinko-funk in the middle of Jim
Best 3.0 Gin yet?
Great ambience @ the end of DWD
NUMBER LINE!!!!!!!!!
and the most fun Makisupa I have seen. PAGE'S HOUSE!!!!  and a seriously slick segue into Harry Hood :smoke:

The show flowed so fantastically and the band seemed incredibly relaxed.  This show gets me SO excited for the rest of summer!

nice!  we fluffed it pretty hard in the lst.
got me pretty psyched for friday.

This show has me psyched for UIC already!!

And that segue is slick as shit.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: phil on May 30, 2011, 05:33:11 PM
Okay, so no one else seems to be freaking out about this show too much so allow me.....

THIS SHOW WAS FUCKING FANTASTIC!!!!!  :wtu:  Definitely one of the better 3.0 shows played.

Theme opener.
Rockin' cities.
HALLEYS JAM!!!!!
Jammed out plinko-funk in the middle of Jim
Best 3.0 Gin yet?
Great ambience @ the end of DWD
NUMBER LINE!!!!!!!!!
and the most fun Makisupa I have seen. PAGE'S HOUSE!!!!  and a seriously slick segue into Harry Hood :smoke:

The show flowed so fantastically and the band seemed incredibly relaxed.  This show gets me SO excited for the rest of summer!

Ditto. I've listened to it twice today, I'll probably find time for one more before all's said and done.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 30, 2011, 05:41:20 PM
Best show since 12/30/09 imo.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: WhatstheUse? on May 30, 2011, 07:40:36 PM
Totally thought they were going to segue into Golden Age from that Gin.  Fishman was playing a very similar beat for a bit.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: justjezmund on May 30, 2011, 07:45:22 PM
Totally thought they were going to segue into Golden Age from that Gin.  Fishman was playing a very similar beat for a bit.

the chick in front of me almost had me believing that as well, but i just went along with it to try and get her back to the roma.





didn't work  :-P
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Hicks on May 30, 2011, 08:00:03 PM
Best show since 12/30/09 imo.

I'd say the only real candidate to dispute this statement would be 8-7-10.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 30, 2011, 08:04:19 PM
Best show since 12/30/09 imo.

I'd say the only real candidate to dispute this statement would be 8-7-10.

Utica and Manchester are up there, honestly.  Especially Utica.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: kellerb on May 30, 2011, 08:07:35 PM
Totally thought they were going to segue into Golden Age from that Gin.  Fishman was playing a very similar beat for a bit.

the chick in front of me almost had me believing that as well, but i just went along with it to try and get her back to the roma.





didn't work  :-P

Shoulda called Manteca.  She would've been yours for the taking
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Hicks on May 30, 2011, 08:28:09 PM
Best show since 12/30/09 imo.

I'd say the only real candidate to dispute this statement would be 8-7-10.

Utica and Manchester are up there, honestly.  Especially Utica.

Manchester is good, but kind of overrated.

Utica is super fun, but I prefer a jammier show to a schtick heavy show like that.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on May 30, 2011, 08:30:11 PM
Totally thought they were going to segue into Golden Age from that Gin.  Fishman was playing a very similar beat for a bit.

the chick in front of me almost had me believing that as well, but i just went along with it to try and get her back to the roma.





didn't work  :-P

Shoulda called Manteca.  She would've been yours for the taking

Chicks like dudes who are decisive AND correct.
Sycophants go home alone.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 30, 2011, 08:36:07 PM
Best show since 12/30/09 imo.

I'd say the only real candidate to dispute this statement would be 8-7-10.

Utica and Manchester are up there, honestly.  Especially Utica.

Manchester is good, but kind of overrated.

Utica is super fun, but I prefer a jammier show to a schtick heavy show like that.

Normally I do too, but I think that the schtick's are extremely well played.  The Bowie is my fave 3.0 version, after the trey flubs, Page's mcgrupp solo is divinely inspired and the Split features some pretty crucial jamming both going into and coming out of the have mercy.  Utica is a really solid show, imo, and I was ready to hate it.

Manchester might be overrated, but the second set is totally solid from beginning to end.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Re
Post by: natronzero on May 30, 2011, 08:55:47 PM
The Bowie and the whole Split sequence are my favorite parts of Utica, but the segue into Have Mercy is forced as fuck.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Re
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 30, 2011, 08:57:29 PM
The Bowie and the whole Split sequence are my favorite parts of Utica, but the segue into Have Mercy is forced as fuck.

I can agree with this (not to diverge too much from the subject at hand...) but I love the jamming that occurs before the forced segue, gives me chills.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Re
Post by: natronzero on May 30, 2011, 09:44:07 PM
The Bowie and the whole Split sequence are my favorite parts of Utica, but the segue into Have Mercy is forced as fuck.

I can agree with this (not to diverge too much from the subject at hand...) but I love the jamming that occurs before the forced segue, gives me chills.

Totally. Just about every other thing about that sequence slays me.

As for this show, I just got the chance to listen to this today while I was working and my first impressions are :
Halleys is good, but Jim is fucking awesome!
Quinn is good, sounds like they're having fun.
Gin is badass, and I actually really enjoyed the double time Manteca. High energy, doesnt sound forced to me, lots of fun.
I was working so I kind of missed the DWD, but Free - there's something they're doing with the rhythm during the verses, as a full band, that got me really pumped. I'm not normally that excited for Free, but whatever they were doing there works for me.
Two years ago I never would have thought I'd say this, but goddamn BDTNL can jam! Again, not a favorite song for me at all, but I liked this one.
Goofy-ass Makisupa is goofy-ass.
Hood and Bowie were both pretty good.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: sumodie on May 30, 2011, 11:35:28 PM
Best 3.0 show, easily

Fantastic playing by all 4 band members, and especially Trey

The return of dark edgy psychedelic jamming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unbelievable night to behold -and at the best shed I know of on the east coast -can't wait to return

An all around amazing weekend, even if Sunday was just standard safe phish
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mehead on May 30, 2011, 11:42:49 PM
Best show since 12/30/09 imo.

was just coming in here to say it's prolly in my Top 3 or 5 of 3.0
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whatapiper on May 31, 2011, 12:01:40 AM
Best 3.0 show, easily

Fantastic playing by all 4 band members, and especially Trey

The return of dark edgy psychedelic jamming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unbelievable night to behold -and at the best shed I know of on the east coast -can't wait to return

An all around amazing weekend, even if Sunday was just standard safe phish

easily? no so sure about that but definitely a great show and top 5 of 3.0.    the Haley's is a little all over the place but it's the highlight of the show for me, the DWD unfortunately I'm not getting the hype, but then again I only listened to it once.   
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: sumodie on May 31, 2011, 12:12:13 AM
Well, I've seen about 60 3.0 shows now and Saturday Bethel is def my fav AND best overall 3.0 show. In any case we're in for a fantastic summer of PH.
And I'm sure we'll see more 2011 shows surpass Bethel2.

Can't decide if the Halley's or Gin is my newest fav jam -guess I'll just have to spin them again...and again...and...
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whatapiper on May 31, 2011, 12:45:52 AM
Well, I've seen about 60 3.0 shows now and Saturday Bethel is def my fav AND best overall 3.0 show. In any case we're in for a fantastic summer of PH.
And I'm sure we'll see more 2011 shows surpass Bethel2.

Can't decide if the Halley's or Gin is my newest fav jam -guess I'll just have to spin them again...and again...and...

again, the Haley's is great, I feel like it has an Antelope/Headphones Jam sound to it, especially the way Mike and Fish are deep rooted in the pocket.   I think Trey kinda blew it with a little whhhaaaale action, then found a theme to wrap around and then....mike whips out the wet bass sound and poof, it's over
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: WhatstheUse? on May 31, 2011, 01:01:17 AM
This was show #75 for me in 3.0  :-o

I'd def put it in the top 5 attended for me -- up there with Greek 3, Utica, and the Gorge
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mehead on May 31, 2011, 01:13:23 AM
This was show #75 for me in 3.0  :-o

I'd def put it in the top 5 attended for me -- up there with Greek 3, Utica, and the Gorge

 :beers:

Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: birdman on May 31, 2011, 06:22:00 AM
This was show #75 for me in 3.0  :-o

I'd def put it in the top 5 attended for me -- up there with Greek 3, Utica, and the Gorge
n()()b!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VDB on May 31, 2011, 11:25:08 AM
OK, I'm finally about to listen to this Gin to see what all the fuss is about.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: aphineday on May 31, 2011, 12:56:24 PM
One thing I think is very important to note here. A lot of us (my self included at times) thought 3.0 was a "nostalgia act". These first sets of the summer definitely show forward progress from a band that many thought unable or unwilling.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mattstick on May 31, 2011, 01:08:54 PM
One thing I think is very important to note here. A lot of us (my self included at times) thought 3.0 was a "nostalgia act". These first sets of the summer definitely show forward progress from a band that many thought unable or unwilling.

They can still be a nostalgia act and play good shows.  If you think that 5/28 was some kind of "beacon of light" that proves Phish is capable of new transcendental things, you've really just overblown the fact that they played just one good show. 

My biggest complaint before was a lack of creativity.  The Bethel Woods shows had some creative playing.

Other things that suck about 3.0 are still there:
a rather harsh PA sound
the fans who just start screaming whenever a jam gets quiet or ambient
a lot scene that makes me want to skip the encore so I don't have to put up with it
abusive and distracting lights from Kuroda... a bigger rig is not better
an abundance of material from Joy
etc.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Multibeast12 on May 31, 2011, 01:09:21 PM
One thing I think is very important to note here. A lot of us (my self included at times) thought 3.0 was a "nostalgia act". These first sets of the summer definitely show forward progress from a band that many thought unable or unwilling.
Yes. I can agree with that statement. Haven't listened to this show. Haven't found the time to yet been working in the new deli at work everyday.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on May 31, 2011, 01:12:30 PM
...and 3.0 rolls on.
Choo choo!
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: whatapiper on May 31, 2011, 01:19:42 PM
I love trains
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 31, 2011, 01:56:05 PM
One thing I think is very important to note here. A lot of us (my self included at times) thought 3.0 was a "nostalgia act". These first sets of the summer definitely show forward progress from a band that many thought unable or unwilling.

They can still be a nostalgia act and play good shows.  If you think that 5/28 was some kind of "beacon of light" that proves Phish is capable of new transcendental things, you've really just overblown the fact that they played just one good show. 

My biggest complaint before was a lack of creativity.  The Bethel Woods shows had some creative playing.

Other things that suck about 3.0 are still there:
a rather harsh PA sound
the fans who just start screaming whenever a jam gets quiet or ambient
a lot scene that makes me want to skip the encore so I don't have to put up with it
abusive and distracting lights from Kuroda... a bigger rig is not better
an abundance of material from Joy
etc.

bit by bit on this one...

1. as for nostalgia: they debuted how many songs on this run? right. Perhaps playing creatively with the old songs isn't nostalgia, but really, it is. I'm all about it, though. I've been seeing this band for nearly 20 years and that's not as long as many of the folks i see at show after show. I'm a fan.
2. the PA sound: I hear ya sort of, but it doesn't really bother me. The sound is really good all over the place... actually, it gets worse as you get closer, which sucks.
3. fans screaming: Ha... you ain't wrong on that front. I mean there have always been screamers at all sorts of moments, but now it's like "they're really getting there" whenever something that's not scripted happens. I could feel the crowd surge when Halley's went just a few bars longer than "normal," for instance. It's kinda funny to me.
4. Lot scene - whatever. It ain't 1995 anymore. The nitrous mafia is out of fucking hand. It's disgusting. But it doesn't really get to me. I can still roll my eyes at it. 
5. Kuroda - too busy, lately, imo. Not sure it's the number of lights (though he definitely added a bunch since fall). To me it's the impatience... he goes from look to look at such a pace. It's like Trey slamming into the next tune before a real jam can develop. My favorite Kuroda work is always when he lets one thing unfold over a long long stretch. He never does that anymore. Way too busy.
6. I like that they have confidence in the newer material. I want more! I wish they were writing. I'm ready for a new batch of songs.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mattstick on May 31, 2011, 02:00:50 PM

The crowd starts to get loud when they get impatient.  When Waves starts to get into this weird ambient droning, they start cheering... the result?  Prince Caspian.

The PA sound is just plain bad.  It's loud and thin and digital.  I'm a big proponent of digital audio technology, but all those plug-ins with the digital board just tires out my eardrums.

Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 31, 2011, 02:03:50 PM

The crowd starts to get loud when they get impatient.  When Waves starts to get into this weird ambient droning, they start cheering... the result?  Prince Caspian.

I agree that the crowd is annoying.  However, you blaming the crowd for the jam ending is simply here say.  There have been many times over the years when the crowd has cheered as if the song is ending and the band has continued to jam.  You can't blame the crowd because the band chooses to end a jam.  Unless you are one of the four guys on stage and you say "yeah, we were thinking about keeping that waves going, but we heard a lot of applause to signify that we were done so we went into caspian".
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: McGrupp on May 31, 2011, 02:04:11 PM

The crowd starts to get loud when they get impatient.  When Waves starts to get into this weird ambient droning, they start cheering... the result?  Prince Caspian.

The PA sound is just plain bad.  It's loud and thin and digital.  I'm a big proponent of digital audio technology, but all those plug-ins with the digital board just tires out my eardrums.

Why don't you just get behind the board and slip notes to the sound guy? I'm sure he'd be very receptive to your input. I mean, you are mattstick, after all.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Multibeast12 on May 31, 2011, 02:06:13 PM

The crowd starts to get loud when they get impatient.  When Waves starts to get into this weird ambient droning, they start cheering... the result?  Prince Caspian.

The PA sound is just plain bad.  It's loud and thin and digital.  I'm a big proponent of digital audio technology, but all those plug-ins with the digital board just tires out my eardrums.
Crowd wasn't impatient at the end of Waves. Bruins just won the Eastern conference finals at that moment. Saw A LOT of Bruins fans there. The guys in front of me who i became friends with were huge fans. and were glad they won.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 31, 2011, 02:06:52 PM

The crowd starts to get loud when they get impatient.  When Waves starts to get into this weird ambient droning, they start cheering... the result?  Prince Caspian.

The PA sound is just plain bad.  It's loud and thin and digital.  I'm a big proponent of digital audio technology, but all those plug-ins with the digital board just tires out my eardrums.

I don't know enough about sound systems to comment, but I can hear the band really well all over the place. It's certainly better than it was in the early-to-mid-90's when I had trouble hearing Page and could almost never hear Mike. As for the tiredness of your eardrums, me too. Not sure that's any different from previous eras, though. It's 3+ hours of loud music.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mattstick on May 31, 2011, 02:08:01 PM
I would be very willing to discuss the pros and cons of digital plugins with the PA crew.  They probably know it's shit but it makes their job 10,000 times easier.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mattstick on May 31, 2011, 02:08:21 PM
Crowd wasn't impatient at the end of Waves. Bruins just won the Eastern conference finals at that moment. Saw A LOT of Bruins fans there. The guys in front of me who i became friends with were huge fans. and were glad they won.

Massholes ruin everything.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Hicks on May 31, 2011, 02:08:36 PM
The PA sound is much brighter/harsher in 3.0 than it ever was when Paul was running the board.

FACT.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Multibeast12 on May 31, 2011, 02:09:22 PM
Crowd wasn't impatient at the end of Waves. Bruins just won the Eastern conference finals at that moment. Saw A LOT of Bruins fans there. The guys in front of me who i became friends with were huge fans. and were glad they won.

Massholes ruin everything.
Yup
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: WhatstheUse? on May 31, 2011, 02:09:54 PM
I thought the sound @ Bethel was very good when compared to many other sheds around the country.  I can hear the thin digital-ness though...
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 31, 2011, 02:10:21 PM
Crowd wasn't impatient at the end of Waves. Bruins just won the Eastern conference finals at that moment. Saw A LOT of Bruins fans there. The guys in front of me who i became friends with were huge fans. and were glad they won.

Massholes are massholes.

fyp?
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mattstick on May 31, 2011, 02:12:41 PM

Listening fatigue is a symptom of digital music.

I'd suggest reading Greg Milner's "Perfecting Sound Forever" by Greg Milner, he gets into the science behind it.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: rowjimmy on May 31, 2011, 02:24:38 PM
The PA sound is much brighter/harsher in 3.0 than it ever was when Paul was running the board.

FACT.

They probably don't use all of these sweet mic amps anymore.
(http://i.imgur.com/nmQEl.jpg)
(that's Mike Grace, the guy whose company made the amps.)
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 31, 2011, 02:47:34 PM
I'm surprised (sort of) to hear the sound inside sucked.  I thought the first two soundboards were two of the best sounding Phish soundboards EVER.  I was wondering how that compared to the actual sound inside.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: aphineday on May 31, 2011, 02:48:15 PM
One thing I think is very important to note here. A lot of us (my self included at times) thought 3.0 was a "nostalgia act". These first sets of the summer definitely show forward progress from a band that many thought unable or unwilling.

They can still be a nostalgia act and play good shows.  If you think that 5/28 was some kind of "beacon of light" that proves Phish is capable of new transcendental things, you've really just overblown the fact that they played just one good show. 

My biggest complaint before was a lack of creativity.  The Bethel Woods shows had some creative playing.

Other things that suck about 3.0 are still there:
a rather harsh PA sound
the fans who just start screaming whenever a jam gets quiet or ambient
a lot scene that makes me want to skip the encore so I don't have to put up with it
abusive and distracting lights from Kuroda... a bigger rig is not better
an abundance of material from Joy
etc.

I wasn't claiming it was a "beacon of light" or a ground breaking performance. If that's how you took it, I apologize, as it's not at all what I meant.
I definitely see the points you are making about the crowd/lot scene. It's all a partnof the experience, but I definitely do my best to keep the music and scene separate.
Songs from Joy are just going to happen, until they release a new record, and then well get those. Just how it is. I'm not really happy with it either, but I do dig a few of these tracks.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: mattstick on May 31, 2011, 02:50:08 PM
They have a separate mix for the SBD feed, which is paired with some mics jacked up at the mix position.  It's not that the sound is bad in the venue, it's loud, it's clear, but it's thin and digital and the longer you listen to it, the worse it seems to sound.

PA sound regardless, this was my favorite show since Red Rocks '09.

The NYE-style staccato jamming reared it's head a few times (Halley's, Gin, #Line), and the band was really locked into the groove during Runaway Jim.  Good placement out of Halley's too.

I loved the Makisupa, it reminded me of the "Bring the Dude" jam.  I think Mr. Minor wrote that we would all like to live at Page's house.  WTF was Fish thinking with his Makisupa "keyword"... corn?

Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 31, 2011, 02:53:44 PM
I really really enjoyed the Makisupa as well.  Did Fish really say "corn"?  I thought he said "porn".

My favorite part about it was how Page ripped the final solo in Makisupa.  It was reminscent of the MMW w/ Trey version of Partido Alto from Albany '00. 
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 31, 2011, 03:02:11 PM
I'm surprised (sort of) to hear the sound inside sucked.  I thought the first two soundboards were two of the best sounding Phish soundboards EVER.  I was wondering how that compared to the actual sound inside.

I really don't think it's that bad. Everything is crystal clear... it's just not particularly warm and it gets pretty harsh if you are too close.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 31, 2011, 03:03:44 PM
I'm surprised (sort of) to hear the sound inside sucked.  I thought the first two soundboards were two of the best sounding Phish soundboards EVER.  I was wondering how that compared to the actual sound inside.

I really don't think it's that bad. Everything is crystal clear... it's just not particularly warm and it gets pretty harsh if you are too close.

Is it still "too loud"?  I think 3.0 shows are way too loud for some reason (maybe it's my age).
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 31, 2011, 03:05:57 PM
I'm surprised (sort of) to hear the sound inside sucked.  I thought the first two soundboards were two of the best sounding Phish soundboards EVER.  I was wondering how that compared to the actual sound inside.

I really don't think it's that bad. Everything is crystal clear... it's just not particularly warm and it gets pretty harsh if you are too close.

Is it still "too loud"?  I think 3.0 shows are way too loud for some reason (maybe it's my age).

It may be that it's too loud... but it sounds so good out on the lawn that it's hard to complain... Like it sounds better for 85% of the crowd than it ever has and 15% it's too loud for have the best seats in the house.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: aphineday on May 31, 2011, 03:16:17 PM
I'm surprised (sort of) to hear the sound inside sucked.  I thought the first two soundboards were two of the best sounding Phish soundboards EVER.  I was wondering how that compared to the actual sound inside.

I really don't think it's that bad. Everything is crystal clear... it's just not particularly warm and it gets pretty harsh if you are too close.

Is it still "too loud"?  I think 3.0 shows are way too loud for some reason (maybe it's my age).

It may be that it's too loud... but it sounds so good out on the lawn that it's hard to complain... Like it sounds better for 85% of the crowd than it ever has and 15% it's too loud for have the best seats in the house.
Which is always going to happen to some extent in a pavilion or outdoor setting.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 31, 2011, 04:13:56 PM
Still working through listening to the weekend - forgot how rocking this Quinn was!! Love it. So much energy and still so tight. Trey is kinda back... ya know what I mean.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on May 31, 2011, 04:14:39 PM
Still working through listening to the weekend - forgot how rocking this Quinn was!! Love it. So much energy and still so tight. Trey is kinda back... ya know what I mean.

Thought the Cities was pretty smokin'.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 31, 2011, 04:21:17 PM
Still working through listening to the weekend - forgot how rocking this Quinn was!! Love it. So much energy and still so tight. Trey is kinda back... ya know what I mean.

Thought the Cities was pretty smokin'.

It was. The thing I like is that Trey is playing better... there way fewer cringe-worthy moments in Trey's solos than there have been for most of 3.0. I'm not talking about flubs like Coil, I'm talking about his improvised solos. They are better. LxL has a great one, too. And the first half of Waves from Friday was fantastic fingerwork, too.

I'm lovin' it.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on May 31, 2011, 04:23:33 PM
Still working through listening to the weekend - forgot how rocking this Quinn was!! Love it. So much energy and still so tight. Trey is kinda back... ya know what I mean.

Thought the Cities was pretty smokin'.

It was. The thing I like is that Trey is playing better... there way fewer cringe-worthy moments in Trey's solos than there have been for most of 3.0. I'm not talking about flubs like Coil, I'm talking about his improvised solos. They are better. LxL has a great one, too. And the first half of Waves from Friday was fantastic fingerwork, too.

I'm lovin' it.

Do you play guitar at all?
Just wonderin'.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 31, 2011, 04:25:54 PM
Still working through listening to the weekend - forgot how rocking this Quinn was!! Love it. So much energy and still so tight. Trey is kinda back... ya know what I mean.

Thought the Cities was pretty smokin'.

It was. The thing I like is that Trey is playing better... there way fewer cringe-worthy moments in Trey's solos than there have been for most of 3.0. I'm not talking about flubs like Coil, I'm talking about his improvised solos. They are better. LxL has a great one, too. And the first half of Waves from Friday was fantastic fingerwork, too.

I'm lovin' it.

Do you play guitar at all?
Just wonderin'.

nope - I never have. I used to play upright bass. never even bass guitar, though. I sang my whole life, too. I can read music, etc.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on May 31, 2011, 04:27:21 PM
Werd. You should be in love with Mike!  :wink:
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 31, 2011, 04:28:34 PM
Werd. You should be in love with Mike!  :wink:

Oh, I'm gay for all of 'em. Aren't you?
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: G. Augusto on May 31, 2011, 04:29:50 PM
Werd. You should be in love with Mike!  :wink:

Oh, I'm gay for all of 'em. Aren't you?

I was gay for Jeff.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 31, 2011, 04:31:19 PM
Werd. You should be in love with Mike!  :wink:

Oh, I'm gay for all of 'em. Aren't you?

I was gay for Jeff.

yeah, bummer about him getting hitched to the big J. I thought we had a chance.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: runawayjimbo on May 31, 2011, 04:39:34 PM
That first set was a good as I've heard in 3.0. I could give that whole set a re-listen straight through cringe-free and not even consider skipping a song. I can't think of another 3.0 set I could say that about. Obvious highlights are the Halley's > Jim and the Gin but I also dug the Cities and I'll even go so far to say I enjoyed the Limb which is usually a throwaway song for me.

I love how in Halley's right at the point they have been slamming into the next song (~5:40) Trey pauses like he's ready to force something, but then he finally let's go. I'm picturing Mike giving him a look like "Fuck you, dude. The 3 of us are just gonna keep playing this." You can hear a little extra pep in Mike's first few lines. The Jim was nice and I dug the "plinko-funk" jam here better than in KDF the night before. And the Gin had me bouncing in my chair at work, although I agree the the Golden Age jam was much more interesting than singing the lyrics to Manteca (I'd call that a tease, fwiw, since it never really felt like Manteca to me). It didn't ruin the Gin for me because it felt more organic than the 10-30 Led Zep shenanigans or even Utica. But it was def unnecessary and seemed to shorten what could have been a really top notch Gin.

I'll echo what's already been said in that this may not be the face melting shit we were expecting 3 years in, but it certainly shows some serious improvement. On to set II.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 31, 2011, 06:06:44 PM
Werd. You should be in love with Mike!  :wink:

Oh, I'm gay for all of 'em. Aren't you?

I was gay for Jeff.

yeah, bummer about him getting hitched to the big J. I thought we had a chance.

No augusto means he was "literally" gay for Jeff.  It's a long story...
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Gumbo72203 on May 31, 2011, 10:14:51 PM
Holy shit this Gin is killing!!!!  I love how patient Trey was in the start, and the way Fish was like "I'm fuckin' with this rythm, YO" early on. 

Theme - Meh.  Cool opener, Trey was totally not together at all.  Meh.
NICU - right on

Cities - YEAH.  Deeeeep, thick, and SHRED TREY!!!!!!!!!!!!!  The end of this jam was fucking fantastic; they should have kept it up for wayyy longer. 

Halleys - mixed feelings about this.  Many, many, many times in this jam someone, be it Trey or Page, had established a REALLY cool theme to jam on, but nobody seemed to be listening to anybody else.  Especially the last few minutes, Trey had found quite a few really cool themes, but Mike was fucking against anything; he was playing some really annoying dissonant stuff that had nothing to do with anything anybody else was playing.  He ruined this one, imo.  For whatever reason, he just wasn't into it, and kept it from achieving the liftoff that was readily apparent to me, at least.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 31, 2011, 10:15:59 PM
LOL calling trey "patient" is to 2011 what "permagroove" is to 1996.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: VDB on May 31, 2011, 11:14:29 PM
Anyone pick up on some "A Love Supreme" in the "Halley's"? Starting around 8:45 in the LP version.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: cactusfan on June 01, 2011, 02:27:46 AM
i like this show. good stuff...for 3.0.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Play_It_Leo on June 01, 2011, 02:16:37 PM
Trey sounds tighter/more precise/more practiced on the composed Bowie sections here. Anybody who's better at this than me care to comment?
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: gainesvillegreen on June 11, 2011, 07:17:43 PM
The solo Trey takes in this Cities remains one of the best things he's played all tour.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Buffalo Budd on June 11, 2011, 11:35:54 PM
The solo Trey takes in this Cities remains one of the best things he's played all tour.
Although I'm only up to July 3 in listening, I have to say I wholeheartedly agree.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Hicks on June 11, 2011, 11:42:15 PM
The solo Trey takes in this Cities remains one of the best things he's played all tour.
Although I'm only up to July 3 in listening, I have to say I wholeheartedly agree.

Back from the future, eh?
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Buffalo Budd on June 11, 2011, 11:49:47 PM
The solo Trey takes in this Cities remains one of the best things he's played all tour.
Although I'm only up to July 3 in listening, I have to say I wholeheartedly agree.

Back from the future, eh?
LMAO!  Just watched BtF 2 tonight.
Title: Re: 05/28 - Bethel Center for the Arts - Bethel NY - Post-Show Discussion and Review
Post by: Hicks on June 11, 2011, 11:55:58 PM
The solo Trey takes in this Cities remains one of the best things he's played all tour.
Although I'm only up to July 3 in listening, I have to say I wholeheartedly agree.

Back from the future, eh?
LMAO!  Just watched BtF 2 tonight.

What are you looking at, butthead?