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Title: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: Hicks on July 30, 2017, 11:30:47 PM
:phish:
7/30/17
Madison Square Garden - New York, NY

Set I:   The Curtain With, Runaway Jim, Waking Up Dead, Esther*, Home, Brian and Robert, Nellie Kane, Col. Forbin's Ascent* > Fly Famous Mockingbird* > David Bowie

Set II:  Drowned > A Song I Heard the Ocean Sing^, Harpua > 2001% > Golgi Apparatus, In the Good Old Summertime

E:  Wind Cries Mary#

*Last time played 8/9/15
^ with "Jimmy" jam
% with "donut" quotes
# First time played

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Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: Gumbo72203 on July 30, 2017, 11:39:52 PM
has there been rips of the video streams?  I'd love to see that Harpua.  I got home just in time for the start of it on the audio stream.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: mbw on July 30, 2017, 11:42:12 PM
So, I missed Drowned and unfortumately saw Harpua and Wind Cries Mary.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: mbw on July 30, 2017, 11:43:09 PM
has there been rips of the video streams?

No, sorry.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: emay on July 31, 2017, 12:15:11 AM
Another good one. So mad I'm missing these. Wind cries Mary would be awesome to see. What was the harpua story?

Esther and the last 5 of the first set are $
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: westcider on July 31, 2017, 12:15:42 AM
isn't The Curtain about Jimmy Swaggart?
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: WhatstheUse? on July 31, 2017, 03:12:16 AM
It's good to be back, they are still sounding so awesome

Drowned>asihtos was the definitive highlight for me. They were jamming. 

Forbins sounded good as well, at least the fluttery Trey parts that he usually misses. Such a good song

Harpua was... long...and I really couldn't understand them through the PA so, not sure about that.

Encore was great and unexpected

Best band ever.

Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: shoreline99 on July 31, 2017, 07:12:20 AM
Hey Scotty, have you heard that weird echo again since the other night?
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: rowjimmy on July 31, 2017, 08:37:44 AM
Harpua was about the theory that the universe is actually donut shaped. Trey and Mike sat down and the four of them had a conversation about it... Seemed fairly scripted. Pretty funny.
Also: there's real science there.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 31, 2017, 09:01:00 AM
Harpua was about the theory that the universe is actually donut shaped. Trey and Mike sat down and the four of them had a conversation about it... Seemed fairly scripted. Pretty funny.
Also: there's real science there.

100% scripted. As in they were all reading from scripts.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: mehead on July 31, 2017, 09:49:44 AM
Practically shit my pants this morning when I saw they played Wind Cries Mary. Always been my favorite Hendrix tune.  I was hoping for an Izabella but I'll gladly take this.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: mbw on July 31, 2017, 10:08:43 AM
Harpua was about the theory that the universe is actually donut shaped. Trey and Mike sat down and the four of them had a conversation about it... Seemed fairly scripted. Pretty funny.
Also: there's real science there.

100% scripted. As in they were all reading from scripts.

And they were all really bad actors.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: mattstick on July 31, 2017, 10:17:33 AM

Page was the best actor, surprisingly followed by Fish.
Trey was OK and Mike was quite bad at reading lines in any convincing way.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 31, 2017, 10:39:58 AM
I enjoyed the first set. Good flow to the set and Trey's playing through a lot those composed songs was really strong. Not perfect, but like Tela the other night, probably about as good as it gets which I am cool with.

Second set smoked start to finish and I love a good let's-run-this-joke-into-the-ground bit a la the universe/donut story. The unconvincing acting was part of the charm. Sure it went on a little too long and I can see how it would be tough to understand through the PA, but via the stream it was pretty lulzy.

Anyone ever figure out what Mike was playing with during Drowned and ASIHTOS? Looked kinda like a microphone but he was blowing into it like a mini-didgeridoo. He also used it as a slide at once or twice.

Finally, didn't see mention of this so for posterity: during Summertime a shirt got thrown onto the stage. Mike picked it up, smiled, and showed Trey. When they came back out for the encore Trey was wearing it, which said IS THIS STILL LAWN BOY? in the style of LET TREY SING. I lol'd.

I predict little to no work coming from me today or tomorrow but I cannot wait for tomorrow night. Best band ever.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: Augustus on July 31, 2017, 11:29:45 AM
The Jimi cover sounded like a High School band was playing.
So thin and lifeless.
Trey should chat with John Mayer.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: cactusfan on July 31, 2017, 11:52:50 AM
The Jimi cover sounded like a High School band was playing.
So thin and lifeless.
Trey should chat with John Mayer.

Alas, it is true. That was terrible. Jimi deserves better.

But Drowned and A Song I Heard are weird and cool. And I was amused by Harpua.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: VDB on July 31, 2017, 11:54:23 AM
We aren't really complaining about the acting quality in a Harpua gag, are we?
Also, Mary sounded fine from where I stood. Would have preferred the Bold as Love that I called, of course.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: GBL on July 31, 2017, 12:24:38 PM
I thought Drowned was awesome.  I'll take a Harpua anytime, regardless of anything, I honestly just love the song itself
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: shoreline99 on July 31, 2017, 12:30:03 PM
We aren't really complaining about the acting quality in a Harpua gag, are we?

LOL  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: ph92 on July 31, 2017, 02:05:39 PM
We aren't really complaining about the acting quality in a Harpua gag, are we?

LOL  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Last night seemed like a really fun show. Spinning it now, really enjoying Trey's chops these days. He's not flub free, but he seems to be playing the composed sections of difficult tunes a lot better than in previous tours.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: Caravan2001 on July 31, 2017, 02:20:22 PM
I really liked what I saw/heard.  missed most of the drowned jam and all of SIHTOS so missed a fair bit of the meat, but I liked what I saw.  No complaints from the encore here, but I was also half asleep.  My wife went and she said energy in venue was great.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: VDB on July 31, 2017, 02:26:08 PM
Drowned and Ocean was the goods and paired very nicely with the CK5 action. It'll be interesting to hear how that plays on tape. Great vibe in the room and the 2001 dance party was oodles of fun.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: mbw on July 31, 2017, 02:56:48 PM
The Jimi cover sounded like a High School band was playing.

Yup.  I thought it sounded like a kid taking guitar lessons playing hendrix.  Eek.

We aren't really complaining about the acting quality in a Harpua gag, are we?

Why wouldn't we?

Also, they're my favorite band.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: WhatstheUse? on July 31, 2017, 06:03:51 PM
I didn't find the encore particularly bad sounding at the time, but also, I was there and psyched on the debut so....
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: Hicks on July 31, 2017, 06:13:04 PM
Harpua was legit awful, rest of the show was awesome, especially Drowned > ASITHOS which was top shelf.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: susep on July 31, 2017, 08:05:12 PM
Was hoping for a Machine Gun w/ sit in by Billy Cox.  The Wind Cries doesn't bode well for MSG.  Hendrix played it on his up and up, after he graduated to venues like the Garden he stopped playing it.  I'm sure he didn't play it live after '68. 

Drowned and A Song I Heard are weird and cool.
 
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: Gumbo72203 on August 01, 2017, 12:21:35 AM
so....  Drowned > ASIHTOS.  I'm so glad that we have this band back.  This is incredible stuff, man.  It sounds so 2.0-y, in a healthy way.  I **Love** that they're dipping down into the energy spectrum and exploring and drawing out the chill jams and not forcing things to a rock peak.  Wonderful, wonderful stuff. 

Edit:  This also might be the best Esther in over 20 years....
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: shoreline99 on August 01, 2017, 07:43:56 AM
I've always had a soft spot for Esther. Some people hate it, but I like that song.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: mbw on August 01, 2017, 09:10:23 AM
I've always had a soft spot for Esther. Some people hate it, but I like that song.

who are these strange people?
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: ph92 on August 01, 2017, 12:11:04 PM
I've always had a soft spot for Esther. Some people hate it, but I like that song.

who are these strange people?
People who hate spinning. I've always loved the muted strum sound (with the volume pedal) in the composed section of Esther
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 01, 2017, 12:41:44 PM
People hate Esther? Weird.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: slslbs on August 01, 2017, 01:11:06 PM
^^
agreed

the only Phish songs worth hating are Show of Life.
And Dr Gabel.

almost forgot the Architect.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: shoreline99 on August 01, 2017, 01:32:17 PM
I assume they're all just angry joggers. Aug?

Wasn't there a guy that took 'Brian and Robert' out of every show he had?
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: Hicks on August 01, 2017, 01:38:38 PM
I assume they're all just angry joggers. Aug?

Wasn't there a guy that took 'Brian and Robert' out of every show he had?

Ha, yeah that guy. 

I feel like maybe he took out Velvet Sea too or something else. 

The funniest part was he honestly didn't understand why people were upset when he shared his edited versions of the shows. 
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: PIE-GUY on August 01, 2017, 01:41:26 PM
People hate Esther? Weird.

I love Esther, but I saw 5 of them in my first 9 shows... I stopped getting excited about them back in the day. Now, though, I'm always happy when it gets played. Especially if it's played well.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: slslbs on August 01, 2017, 01:55:21 PM
I assume they're all just angry joggers. Aug?

Wasn't there a guy that took 'Brian and Robert' out of every show he had?

Ha, yeah that guy. 

I feel like maybe he took out Velvet Sea too or something else. 

The funniest part was he honestly didn't understand why people were upset when he shared his edited versions of the shows.
lol I remember that guy.
Yea, I think he took out Velvet Sea and something else, I wanna say Billy Breathes but I could be wrong
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: ytowndan on August 01, 2017, 02:07:05 PM
I assume they're all just angry joggers. Aug?

Wasn't there a guy that took 'Brian and Robert' out of every show he had?

Ha, yeah that guy. 

I feel like maybe he took out Velvet Sea too or something else. 

The funniest part was he honestly didn't understand why people were upset when he shared his edited versions of the shows.
lol I remember that guy.
Yea, I think he took out Velvet Sea and something else, I wanna say Billy Breathes but I could be wrong

Holy crap, I forgot about that dude!   :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: mistercharlie on August 01, 2017, 06:04:38 PM
^^
agreed

the only Phish songs worth hating are Show of Life.
And Dr Gabel.

almost forgot the Architect.

And Time Turns Elastic.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: ph92 on August 01, 2017, 06:19:48 PM
^^
agreed

the only Phish songs worth hating are Show of Life.
And Dr Gabel.

almost forgot the Architect.

And Time Turns Elastic.
Shhh they might play it
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: Hicks on August 01, 2017, 06:33:38 PM
^^
agreed

the only Phish songs worth hating are Show of Life.
And Dr Gabel.

almost forgot the Architect.

And Time Turns Elastic.
Shhh they might play it

I'd be surprised if they don't play TTE tonight. 
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 01, 2017, 09:56:36 PM
^^
agreed

the only Phish songs worth hating are Show of Life.
And Dr Gabel.

almost forgot the Architect.

And Time Turns Elastic.
Shhh they might play it

I'd be surprised if they don't play TTE tonight.

I'd take TTE over the Architect hands down.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: rowjimmy on August 02, 2017, 03:51:56 PM
https://youtu.be/wBF6yaxTbbw
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: Hicks on August 02, 2017, 03:55:13 PM
^^
agreed

the only Phish songs worth hating are Show of Life.
And Dr Gabel.

almost forgot the Architect.

And Time Turns Elastic.
Shhh they might play it


I'd be surprised if they don't play TTE tonight.

I'd take TTE over the Architect hands down.

I hate TTE as much as anyone, but I have to admit I'd be interested to hear this incarnation of the band give it a shot at least once.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: gah on August 02, 2017, 04:42:53 PM
^^
agreed

the only Phish songs worth hating are Show of Life.
And Dr Gabel.

almost forgot the Architect.

And Time Turns Elastic.
Shhh they might play it


I'd be surprised if they don't play TTE tonight.

I'd take TTE over the Architect hands down.

I hate TTE as much as anyone, but I have to admit I'd be interested to hear this incarnation of the band give it a shot at least once.

Nonsense. If I didn't like you so much, I'd ask RJ to break out the ban hammer. Do you hate your fellow phans? Why would you put them through that? I bet you hate babies, kick puppies, and furthermore, support child labor in third world countries. Unbelievable! How the fuck are we even friends?! Jesus man.  :shakehead:
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 02, 2017, 05:40:17 PM
I too was expecting a TTE and would not have been upset.

I didn't really care for the tune but it would've been pretty impressive if they practiced enough to re-learn it for one final go a round
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: susep on August 02, 2017, 07:15:58 PM
I didn't really care for the tune but it would've been pretty impressive if they practiced enough to re-learn it for one final go a round

combined w/ a stellar MSG jam taboot. 
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: mbw on August 02, 2017, 07:49:33 PM
I too was expecting a TTE and would not have been upset.

I didn't really care for the tune but it would've been pretty impressive if they practiced enough to re-learn it for one final go a round

Wait, are they breaking up again?
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: WhatstheUse? on August 02, 2017, 07:52:50 PM
I too was expecting a TTE and would not have been upset.

I didn't really care for the tune but it would've been pretty impressive if they practiced enough to re-learn it for one final go a round

Wait, are they breaking up again?

Rumor is they're just too happy and too healthy to go on :(
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: gainesvillegreen on August 02, 2017, 07:57:24 PM
I too was expecting a TTE and would not have been upset.

I didn't really care for the tune but it would've been pretty impressive if they practiced enough to re-learn it for one final go a round

Wait, are they breaking up again?

??

 :-o

Rumor is they're just too happy and too healthy to go on :(
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: slslbs on August 02, 2017, 08:15:10 PM
The Jimi cover sounded like a High School band was playing.
So thin and lifeless.
Trey should chat with John Mayer.

I dunno - Trey makes plenty of flubs in his own songs too.
 :evil:

It wasn't perfect, I enjoyed it
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: ph92 on August 02, 2017, 11:18:54 PM
I too was expecting a TTE and would not have been upset.

I didn't really care for the tune but it would've been pretty impressive if they practiced enough to re-learn it for one final go a round

Wait, are they breaking up again?

??

 :-o

Rumor is they're just too happy and too healthy to go on :(
I saw a rumor on reddit. But they also alluded to "fishman's surgery" which I'm pretty sure was super minor, and happened right after Mexico this year... So they may be a little out of the loop.

They can stick to their "dank" phish memes
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: rowjimmy on August 03, 2017, 07:31:28 AM
Pretty sure Fish's wife says the shoulder thing was fake news.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: whatapiper on August 03, 2017, 08:53:36 AM
Pretty sure Fish's wife says the shoulder thing was fake news.

Yup, 2 rumors rolled into one supposedly?
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: mistercharlie on August 03, 2017, 09:01:02 AM
Pretty sure Fish's wife says the shoulder thing was fake news.

Wait, Fish is married to Trump?!?!  :evil:
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: whatapiper on August 03, 2017, 09:03:27 AM
Pretty sure Fish's wife says the shoulder thing was fake news.

Wait, Fish is married to Trump?!?!  :evil:

We are connecting the dots now!
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: rowjimmy on August 03, 2017, 09:05:03 AM
Pretty sure Fish's wife says the shoulder thing was fake news.

Wait, Fish is married to Trump?!?!  :evil:

We are connecting the dots now!

No wonder he's been so pissed off on the internet lately.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: cactusfan on August 03, 2017, 12:17:08 PM
Pretty sure Fish's wife says the shoulder thing was fake news.

Wait, Fish is married to Trump?!?!  :evil:

Where have you guys been? Fishman IS Trump. It's part of a very elaborate gag. Think about it, have you ever seen them in the same room at the same time? No.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: Gumbo72203 on August 03, 2017, 12:19:56 PM
How can people hate Esther?  That song is pure, unadulterated Phish.  A song I know I'll never see but would be so happy.  So many songs are on that list:  Esther, Billy Breathes, ForbinBird, Mountains in the Mist, Pebbles and Marbles, TMWSIY.


Anyway, on topic..... this ASIHTOS might be the coolest thing they've played.  The outro for this jam is so incredibly unique and cool.  It gets to a space that reminds me of the interstellar late-night grooves of Cypress and Fukuoka.  It's so weird, but so together.  Trey doing his divebomb loops, Page keeping it together with his organ lick....  just wonderful wonderful stuff. 


It's really cool that we got to see Real Phish at least once in 3.0 before the end came.  This is real Phish to me.  This is the band.  3.0 has been fine and great many times over, but this is finally the real Phish with no boundaries.  Anything goes. 

And it's funny because Tuesday night when they hit Piper, I was a little disappointed because I had a thought like "aww man, it's going to have a jam..." because it's not a surprise.  The best thing about this run has been the surprise jams.  I want more of this. 
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: Hicks on August 03, 2017, 12:21:22 PM
I heard Trey fired Fish backstage last night and they are bringing in the drummer from Smash Mouth as a replacement. 

All Star opener!
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: ph92 on August 03, 2017, 12:39:26 PM
I heard Trey fired Fish backstage last night and they are bringing in the drummer from Smash Mouth as a replacement. 

All Star opener!
YES! This is the late 90's bustout I've been waiting for.
Title: Re: 7/30/2017 - MSG, New York, NY
Post by: Gumbo72203 on August 03, 2017, 04:29:02 PM
I heard Trey fired Fish backstage last night and they are bringing in the drummer from Smash Mouth as a replacement. 

All Star opener!

8/4/17 

Set 1:  All Star*% -> Catapult -> Kiss Me*


* - debut
% - unfinished