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Title: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: anthrax on December 28, 2017, 11:50:49 PM
12/28/17
Madison Square Garden
New York, NY

I:. ACDC Bag, Wolfman's Brother, Roggae, Tube, Bouncin', GBOTT, Your Pet Cat, Waking Up Dead, Theme

II:. Wilson, NMINML > Twist > Everything's Right > 2001 > Harry Hood

E:  Wedge, Slave
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: anthrax on December 28, 2017, 11:52:02 PM
trey was certainly playing around with his new rig!
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: Hicks on December 29, 2017, 12:08:41 AM
NMINML > Twist was dope! 

Digging Trey's new rig and Page's continues to explore his new synth sounds, it's looking good for a sweet NYE run!
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: mbw on December 29, 2017, 12:12:28 AM
NMINML > Twist was dope! 

This.  The rest gets a passing grade.
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: mattstick on December 29, 2017, 08:18:19 AM
Moma Dance Jam in Everything's Right
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: aphineday on December 29, 2017, 09:28:10 AM
NMINML > Twist was dope! 

This.  The rest gets a passing grade.
Im re listening right now, but last night, this was the only segment I heard... and I thought it was super nice.
On my listen so far today, I think Wolfmans was pretty slick.
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: emay on December 29, 2017, 10:27:10 AM
thought that hood jam was pretty good. they slid into the ending nicely.
As well as the Tube, NMINML > Twist
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: WhatstheUse? on December 29, 2017, 11:13:54 AM
I thought that was a pretty darn solid show for the first of the run after months off.

NMINML > Twist was indeed sick. I too enjoyed treys new tones! Tube had a nice microjam...

Wedge in the encore slot caught me by total surprise. I love that song but I feel like they’ve gotten used to placing it deep in the second set which doesn’t always work for me. Enccore was great. Is that a first?

My only real complaint was the horribly forced segues by Trey but what’s new there...
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: mbw on December 29, 2017, 11:37:00 AM
Moma Dance Jam in Everything's Right

mike was pretty much playing moma that entire jam.
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: anthrax on December 29, 2017, 11:37:24 AM
Wedge in the encore slot caught me by total surprise. I love that song but I feel like they’ve gotten used to placing it deep in the second set which doesn’t always work for me. Enccore was great. Is that a first?

Only other Wedge encore was 11/14/95 Orlando
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: aphineday on December 29, 2017, 12:01:17 PM
I’m saving the second set for my run when little man naps... pretty jacked though.
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: WhatstheUse? on December 29, 2017, 12:01:45 PM
Wedge in the encore slot caught me by total surprise. I love that song but I feel like they’ve gotten used to placing it deep in the second set which doesn’t always work for me. Enccore was great. Is that a first?

Only other Wedge encore was 11/14/95 Orlando

Damn!
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: Hicks on December 29, 2017, 12:02:20 PM
Interesting that Mike was using an IEM last night, which has traditionally been banned on the Phish stage. 

I wonder if he’ll keep using it. 
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: VDB on December 29, 2017, 01:49:40 PM
My only real complaint was the horribly forced segues by Trey but what’s new there...

Prior to Everything's Right, as Fishman was still merrily banging away over on the Mike side of his kit, Trey sidled up to the riser to call out the new tune and Fishman essentially stopped what he was doing to lean over and hear the request again. I know these moments are usually of Trey's initiating, but sometimes Fish could do a better job of maintaining the continuity as well.
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: WhatstheUse? on December 29, 2017, 04:17:19 PM
My only real complaint was the horribly forced segues by Trey but what’s new there...

Prior to Everything's Right, as Fishman was still merrily banging away over on the Mike side of his kit, Trey sidled up to the riser to call out the new tune and Fishman essentially stopped what he was doing to lean over and hear the request again. I know these moments are usually of Trey's initiating, but sometimes Fish could do a better job of maintaining the continuity as well.

Completely agreed.
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: WhatstheUse? on December 29, 2017, 04:18:16 PM
Interesting that Mike was using an IEM last night, which has traditionally been banned on the Phish stage. 

I wonder if he’ll keep using it.

Just one ear?

Is there a specific interview where they talk about IEMs?
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: anthrax on December 29, 2017, 04:33:40 PM
My only real complaint was the horribly forced segues by Trey but what’s new there...

Prior to Everything's Right, as Fishman was still merrily banging away over on the Mike side of his kit, Trey sidled up to the riser to call out the new tune and Fishman essentially stopped what he was doing to lean over and hear the request again. I know these moments are usually of Trey's initiating, but sometimes Fish could do a better job of maintaining the continuity as well.

i totally saw that last night, and i totally did not like it.  a little lackadaisical last night...i guess it comes with being pretty damn comfortable in that room.
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: jasonsobel on December 29, 2017, 04:51:25 PM
Interesting that Mike was using an IEM last night, which has traditionally been banned on the Phish stage. 

I wonder if he’ll keep using it.

Just one ear?

Is there a specific interview where they talk about IEMs?

I thought Page used an IEM.  Did they talk about it in the Phish Book, or Bittersweet Motel?  Yeah, I think Trey starts singing about it in Bittersweet Motel, in the same improvised song about Page's new shirt.  I'll have to go back and check it out.

edit to add:
check out 47:45 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiMW778vq70
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: kellerb on December 29, 2017, 04:56:47 PM

Just one ear?


It's Mike.  He's probably learning how to lip-read and finds it intriguing to do so onstage via Trey's audibles.
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: mbw on December 29, 2017, 05:51:23 PM
Oh man, i always thought he was cleaning his ear with a q-tip.
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: Hicks on December 29, 2017, 05:55:48 PM
Interesting that Mike was using an IEM last night, which has traditionally been banned on the Phish stage. 

I wonder if he’ll keep using it.

Just one ear?

Is there a specific interview where they talk about IEMs?

I thought Page used an IEM.  Did they talk about it in the Phish Book, or Bittersweet Motel?  Yeah, I think Trey starts singing about it in Bittersweet Motel, in the same improvised song about Page's new shirt.  I'll have to go back and check it out.

edit to add:
check out 47:45 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiMW778vq70

I think that was a pretty brief thing, Trey’s even giving him shit about it right in the vid.

Not sure where I read it, but they’ve said they don’t use IEMs because they feel stage monitors allow them to connect with each other better. 

Mike’s been using them with MGB for a while now. 

I think he only had one in his left ear last night, could be wrong though. 
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: jasonsobel on December 29, 2017, 07:59:06 PM
I think that was a pretty brief thing, Trey’s even giving him shit about it right in the vid.

Not sure where I read it, but they’ve said they don’t use IEMs because they feel stage monitors allow them to connect with each other better. 

Mike’s been using them with MGB for a while now. 

I think he only had one in his left ear last night, could be wrong though.

Maybe, maybe not.  Trey also talks about it towards the bottom of page 87 in the Phish Book, and how it helped a lot when Page started using the "Ear Bug monitor", and how it helped Page hear Fish more, and in turn, made his musical ideas more clear to Trey.

To be honest, I've always had a tough time keeping track of what gear each of the guys is using, and I don't know if Page or Mike or anyone has or hasn't been using IEM's over the years.  I only bring this up to point out that I don't think Phish ever categorically opposed the use of IEM's.

In any case, back to this show.  Just listened to NMINML > Twist for the first time.  Good stuff.  Haven't had a chance to listen to the rest of the show yet, but this bodes well for the next 3 nights :)  :phish:
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: susep on December 29, 2017, 08:03:41 PM


In any case, back to this show.  Just listened to NMINML > Twist for the first time.  Good stuff.  Haven't had a chance to listen to the rest of the show yet, but this bodes well for the next 3 nights :)  :phish:

Going through set 1 again as I type.  Tube is quite good.  Atypical, volcanic.  Also, best Your Pet Cat since the Vegas debut?   
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: westcider on December 29, 2017, 11:29:10 PM
IEMs have come a long long ways since Bittersweet Motel came out
Title: Re: 2017-12-28 Madison Square Garden New York, NY
Post by: mehead on March 01, 2018, 11:36:07 AM
I am just now getting around to listening to the NYE run.

Right now, this NMINML   :music: :music: :music: :music: