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Title: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on March 19, 2008, 03:08:28 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/cartoonsandvideos/telnaes/telnaes03192008.swf
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: bluecaravan521 on March 24, 2008, 11:22:48 PM
(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/15983/original.jpg)

4000 Soldiers

And Cheney says the biggest burden is on the President?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on March 27, 2008, 11:13:27 AM
^^^That's a good one. I posted this below a few months back, I forget in which thread. But it's funny, and this is the place for it...

(http://)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on March 27, 2008, 11:39:18 AM
Not necessarily an image or a vid, but on the radio today I heard a mix up from the stones song "Rock and a Hard Place".  They changed the lyrics to stuck between Barack and a hard place.  It was good for a chuckle anyway.   
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: blatboom on March 27, 2008, 01:09:25 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtVzwOF3u7I[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on July 06, 2008, 11:43:21 AM
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on July 06, 2008, 11:56:43 AM
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=FiQJ9Xp0xxU[/youtube]

gave me a few laughs  :lol:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: bluecaravan521 on July 06, 2008, 02:19:58 PM
 :-D That's good
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on July 06, 2008, 03:45:54 PM
 :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on July 14, 2008, 12:31:20 PM
Anyone seen the latest cover of New Yorker Magazine?  It's causing quite a stir. 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7505953.stm

I can't find the actual image by itself yet, but there's a link to an article about it. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on July 14, 2008, 12:36:35 PM
Anyone seen the latest cover of New Yorker Magazine?  It's causing quite a stir. 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7505953.stm

I can't find the actual image by itself yet, but there's a link to an article about it. 

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44831000/jpg/_44831351_cartoon_ap226b.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: bluecaravan521 on July 14, 2008, 12:41:11 PM
Bold image, definitely speaks a lot of truth as to the portrait the right-wing wants to paint of them.  I feel like Obama is going to denounce this though and back down from it in a manner akin to Wesley Clarke's comments.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on August 15, 2008, 01:13:32 AM
just what american politics needs!! 
http://www.thespeciousreport.com/video.aspx?videonum=7070127
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on August 15, 2008, 09:13:45 AM
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/5/3/ivotbamaisl128543458587791250.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 15, 2008, 11:19:36 AM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/voting_machines.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on August 15, 2008, 11:47:48 AM
under the radar magazine.
protest issue.

some of these pictures are my favorite.
(they include: mmj, chuckD, fleetfoxes, michael franti, colin meloy, okkervil river etc...)
check out the entire issue....
the best one that's not featured is the sign that says:
"Go back to bed America. your Government has it all figured out." -foals

http://www.undertheradarmag.com/

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on August 15, 2008, 03:27:31 PM
Baracky II
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fNgA5xLxao[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on August 21, 2008, 10:47:59 PM

Anyone familiar with David Choe?

He's done a couple stellar Obama images...

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/mcnail/OMG/4163.jpg)

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e158/mcnail/OMG/4164.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on August 22, 2008, 08:28:26 PM
I noticed that these have been put up in my town today:

(http://dickcheneyretirementfund.googlepages.com/rnc20080822.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 22, 2008, 09:22:49 PM
cool
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: susep on August 22, 2008, 11:56:35 PM
nice images but I don't like the Obama/hope idea.  Granted we need something but hope is too fucked up imm.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 23, 2008, 05:16:42 PM
I can see how a positive outlook for the future could get you down.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on August 23, 2008, 06:09:27 PM

Yeah!  Fuck Hope - who needs it!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: G. Augusto on August 27, 2008, 10:42:35 AM
(http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/fretwork2/th_thbroc-obama.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 27, 2008, 11:43:12 AM
(http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j318/fretwork2/th_thbroc-obama.jpg)

I'd wear that shirt.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Mr Minor on August 27, 2008, 11:54:07 AM
I can see how a positive outlook for the future could get you down.

Yeah!  Fuck Hope - who needs it!

 :lol:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on August 28, 2008, 06:47:44 PM
(http://i36.tinypic.com/fvqyv.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on August 28, 2008, 06:48:08 PM
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g218/Duncan905/Misc%20for%20Links/HBObama.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on August 28, 2008, 06:59:23 PM
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/jackson.hewlett/SLYCkfS9NFI/AAAAAAAAC7I/hOeppRxpFHU/s400/obama_projrun.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on August 28, 2008, 07:00:29 PM
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q209/postrye/obamabarber.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: G. Augusto on August 28, 2008, 07:03:05 PM
Is that bisco's guitarist?
SER.
a
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on August 28, 2008, 07:03:59 PM
Biscobama.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on August 29, 2008, 10:48:48 AM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/14udkkp.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: birdman on August 29, 2008, 10:55:58 AM
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q209/postrye/obamabarber.jpg)
You need one of these with that picture of the stoned guy with the headband from the paug. That would rule...You know whom I'm speaking of? :wink:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 29, 2008, 03:29:58 PM
(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/funny-pictures-cat-makes-political-statement.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on August 29, 2008, 06:45:29 PM
(http://staging.michaelmoore.com/_images/splash/happy72nd.jpg)

John McCain celebrates his 69th birthday with George W. Bush
on Monday, August 29th, 2005 as New Orleans drowns.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on August 29, 2008, 09:09:26 PM
its a shame that this man isn't presidential material because of his small stature...
but he cant be denied as one of the best proponents of the democratic agenda and american citizens as a whole

"wake up america" via rep. dennis kucinich (dem-oh) from the dnc

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0smG7ptcM[/youtube]

Quote
Wake up America, the insurance companies took over health care.
Wake up America, the pharmaceutical companies took over drug pricing.
Wake up America, the speculators took over Wall Street.
Wake up America, they want to take your Social Security.
Wake up America, multinational corporations took over our trade policies, factories are closing,
good paying jobs lost.
Wake up, America. We went into Iraq for oil. The oil companies want more. War against Iran
will mean $10 a gallon gasoline. The Oil Administration wants to drill more ‐‐ into your wallet.
Wake up, America. Weapons contractors want more. An Iran war will cost five to ten trillion
dollars.
This Administration can tap our phones. They can’t tap our creative spirit. They can open our
mail. They can’t open economic opportunities. They can track our every move. They lost track
of the economy while the cost of food, gasoline, and electricity skyrockets.
They skillfully played our post‐ 911 fears and allowed the few to profit at the expense of the
many. Everyday we get the color orange, while the oil companies, the insurance companies, the
speculators, the war contractors get the color green.
Wake up America. This is not a call for you to take a new direction from right to left.
This is call for you to go from down to up.
Up with the rights of workers.
Up with wages.
Up with fair trade.
Up with creating millions of good paying jobs rebuilding our bridges, ports and water systems.
Up with creating millions of sustainable energy jobs to lower the cost of energy, lower carbon
emissions and protect the environment.
Up with health care for all.
Up with education for all.
Up with home ownership.
Up with guaranteed retirement benefits.
Up with Peace.
Up with Prosperity.
Up with the Democratic Party
Up with Obama ‐ Biden
Wake up, America.
Wake up, America.
Wake up, America.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on August 30, 2008, 07:31:12 PM
Lots of great stuff here:

http://beautyandthestreet.org/

(http://beautyandthestreet.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/dnc42.jpg)

(http://beautyandthestreet.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/dnc49.jpg)

(http://beautyandthestreet.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/dnc58.jpg)

(http://beautyandthestreet.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/dnc28.jpg)

(http://beautyandthestreet.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/dnc15.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on August 30, 2008, 07:49:45 PM
from the bar down the street from where Maggie works; Saint Paul, Minn
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3096/2801023855_0d0915a9c1.jpg)
haw haw
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on August 31, 2008, 03:00:58 PM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/14udkkp.jpg)

oooooh my  goooood
 :beers:

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on August 31, 2008, 03:02:00 PM
heres a serious one
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZCrIeRkMhA[/youtube]

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on September 01, 2008, 05:23:46 PM
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee282/matthewfuntime/Juneau.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 02, 2008, 09:39:32 AM
(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/political-pictures-john-mccain-indigestion-lunchtime.jpg)

(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/political-pictures-john-mccain-bush-spelling-grammar-check.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 04, 2008, 07:42:37 PM
I received this today..

No doubt it's a photoshop but, it made me laugh.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on September 05, 2008, 10:46:03 AM
Anyone see Obama on Bill O'reilly last night?

[youtube]_753sLQQ8q8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 05, 2008, 12:56:15 PM
They really need to stop putting McCain in front of Green backgrounds...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqndpCQ1boE[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y0bE18fpec[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyBBuok6WI4[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MnZK4z1Y4g[/youtube]


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je8KBhT970Q[/youtube]

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on September 06, 2008, 08:29:14 PM
(http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/H/G/2/mccain-palin-anna-nicole.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on September 06, 2008, 08:49:07 PM
mc cain singing "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb iran" to the tune of "barbara ann"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg[/youtube]

the nice folks at brave new films (http://bravenewfilms.org/ (http://bravenewfilms.org/)) even made a catchy tune for your ipod

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2kyXN4ZVQg[/youtube]

in case you wondered what the next 4 years under mc cain would be like...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on September 07, 2008, 01:45:44 AM
(http://dickcheneyretirementfund.googlepages.com/countryfirst.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 07, 2008, 11:19:58 AM
My wife pointed out a potential double meaning to that one.

The upshot of this ticket is that Palin is qualified to change diapers if Cindy McCain isn't around.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 09, 2008, 02:44:12 PM
I obviously haven't checked all the facts on this, because there are so many reversals, but I can only assume at least SOME of them are true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9qh1cbXdvc&feature=related
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 09, 2008, 03:08:22 PM
Awesome vid.
I have little doubt that Olberman is on point with his sources.

Here's a good companion piece:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JTQx_DnBTk
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 09, 2008, 03:20:44 PM
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heckuva lot easier. Just as so long as I'm the dictator." - G.W. Bush

Awesome! Gotta love me some Bush-isms.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: bluecaravan521 on September 09, 2008, 03:46:37 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbxClZXzvDo[/youtube]

Sarah Palin's closest friends- 3/4 won't say they'll vote for her
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 09, 2008, 04:00:22 PM
Sarah Palin's closest friends- 3/4 won't say they'll vote for her

I dunno.
1 was def. for her.
1 was on the fence
1 wouldn't say either way.
1 was voting for her.


that's not 3 of 4 against.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on September 09, 2008, 04:02:41 PM
Veterans have opinions about war, president


Iraq War Veterans:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3077/2839182692_588bd534d3_o.jpg)
(see also http://ivaw.org/ )

Vietnam War Veteran / Republican alternate delegate to the RNC:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2835896749_2f2215b596.jpg) (http://flickr.com/photos/70267096@N00/2835896749/)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2836730100_e04dbb6081.jpg) (http://flickr.com/photos/70267096@N00/2836730100/in/photostream/)
(see also http://vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/ )

World War II Veteran:

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/143135518_d0a72878a3.jpg) (http://flickr.com/photos/maggiet/143135518/) <-I love this guy.
(see also http://www.twincitiesvfp.org/ )
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: bluecaravan521 on September 09, 2008, 04:07:31 PM
Sarah Palin's closest friends- 3/4 won't say they'll vote for her

that's not 3 of 4 against.

I know- just found it interesting the way they reacted.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on September 09, 2008, 06:46:30 PM
those MSNBC vids are actually a little scary. The Dems have to circulate this info if they want to win.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 09, 2008, 11:15:59 PM
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f97/JeremyLykins/fiscalconservatives.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 10, 2008, 08:45:24 AM
The RNC In A Minute

http://www.236.com/video/embed2.swf?videoID=1776561712&permalink=/d/?video=1776561712&width=425&height=364&embedCode=http://www.236.com/video/embed.php?v=1776561712&tags=Original+Video&urlPath=/d/?video=&translatorSwf=http://www.236.com/video/xml_translator.swf&xmlURL=http://iacas.adbureau.net/xtserver/site=236.com/aamsz=300x250video/area=video2/frmt=0/frmt=1/frmt=16/lnid=-1/ttID=1776561712/cue=post/cgm=0/RANDOM=0000000000&roll=post&policyFile=http://www.236.com/video/adPolicy.xml&title=+
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Ri©h on September 10, 2008, 04:36:45 PM
 :-D  That was awesome.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 10, 2008, 08:35:38 PM
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f97/JeremyLykins/Obama-fuckyeah.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on September 11, 2008, 03:58:19 PM
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f97/JeremyLykins/Obama-fuckyeah.jpg)

Hilarious.   :-D
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on September 11, 2008, 04:10:44 PM
He got it right the first time...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6ZnHTWWErM[/youtube]


Its way late on this one but worth a look see...  :lol:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5P6MLiKEJI[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 11, 2008, 09:41:23 PM
He got it right the first time...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6ZnHTWWErM[/youtube]


Its way late on this one but worth a look see...  :lol:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5P6MLiKEJI[/youtube]

movie no workee
Chrome did me wrong. Works now.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on September 12, 2008, 11:22:07 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aR3HQTi9bw[/youtube]

Oy.   :roll:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 12, 2008, 12:06:31 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aR3HQTi9bw[/youtube]

Oy.   :roll:


Funny but a cheap shot.

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on September 12, 2008, 09:37:43 PM
how mccain felt about short term mayors and governors being fit to serve when he was running against giuliani and romney in the primaries....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzhFDQIgGSg[/youtube]

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on September 15, 2008, 09:49:31 AM
:-o

(http://www.obamawaffles.com/images/Obama_Web_Template_02.jpg)

There it is.

Quote from: the AP
While Obama Waffles takes aim at Obama's politics by poking fun at his public remarks and positions on issues, it also plays off the old image of the pancake-mix icon Aunt Jemima, which has been widely criticized as a demeaning stereotype. Obama is portrayed with popping eyes and big, thick lips as he stares at a plate of waffles and smiles broadly.

Placing Obama in Arab-like headdress recalls the false rumor that he is a follower of Islam, though he is actually a Christian.

On the back of the box, Obama is depicted in stereotypical Mexican dress, including a sombrero, above a recipe for "Open Border Fiesta Waffles" that says it can serve "4 or more illegal aliens." The recipe includes a tip: "While waiting for these zesty treats to invade your home, why not learn a foreign language?"

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hNafTsdlgbSZ8YMoFRDSgrVlEwGwD936205O0
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on September 15, 2008, 01:55:13 PM
Did anyone see Biden's speech in Ohio?  An honest mistake, but this is painful.  He asks state senator Chuck Graham to "Stand Up".  Whats wrong with that, you ask?  He's a paraplegic. 

[youtube]C2mzbuRgnI4[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on September 15, 2008, 06:41:56 PM
:-o

(http://www.obamawaffles.com/images/Obama_Web_Template_02.jpg)

There it is.

Quote from: the AP
While Obama Waffles takes aim at Obama's politics by poking fun at his public remarks and positions on issues, it also plays off the old image of the pancake-mix icon Aunt Jemima, which has been widely criticized as a demeaning stereotype. Obama is portrayed with popping eyes and big, thick lips as he stares at a plate of waffles and smiles broadly.

Placing Obama in Arab-like headdress recalls the false rumor that he is a follower of Islam, though he is actually a Christian.

On the back of the box, Obama is depicted in stereotypical Mexican dress, including a sombrero, above a recipe for "Open Border Fiesta Waffles" that says it can serve "4 or more illegal aliens." The recipe includes a tip: "While waiting for these zesty treats to invade your home, why not learn a foreign language?"

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hNafTsdlgbSZ8YMoFRDSgrVlEwGwD936205O0
Extremely prejudicial image in my eyes...this person should have the NAACP up his ass with a law suit in the mix...

OH!! and lets all shed a tear for Palin , because she is getting picked on by the left wing fanatics on the internet... :cry:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 15, 2008, 08:00:12 PM
Did anyone see Biden's speech in Ohio?  An honest mistake, but this is painful.  He asks state senator Chuck Graham to "Stand Up".  Whats wrong with that, you ask?  He's a paraplegic. 

[youtube]C2mzbuRgnI4[/youtube]

I bet he's mortified about that...

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on September 15, 2008, 08:22:26 PM
ughhh, this is getting all to tiring
i liked michael moores idea in 2000 for how to pick a pres.
the presidential mosh pit!
(from his tv show "the awful truth)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qwDBgNMD7c[/youtube]

VOTE KEYES!!!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 16, 2008, 10:19:55 AM
Biden made a mistake there, and I am sure he feels horrible about it. He actually played it off pretty well, not making excuses, just saying. But that can't be worse than McCain calling the fundamentals of our economy strong on one of the worse days the markets have seen in a long time. I understand that he is just standing by the Bush and Republican policies he has stood by for the last 8 years, but still...don't come back at me with the whole we need to make a change thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igAmVs0cvY8
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on September 16, 2008, 12:00:20 PM
ughhh, this is getting all to tiring
i liked michael moores idea in 2000 for how to pick a pres.
the presidential mosh pit!
(from his tv show "the awful truth)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qwDBgNMD7c[/youtube]

VOTE KEYES!!!

thanks for posting that :)
my dvd won't play that part anymore...

so good.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on September 16, 2008, 01:10:08 PM
FYI Moore's new film will be up for free d/l starting 9/23

http://slackeruprising.com/

Quote
Friends,

As you may have heard, I've decided to make my new film, "Slacker Uprising," available for free to everyone in the United States and Canada. It is the first time ever that a major feature-length film is debuting as a free download on the internet -- legally. I am doing this for two reasons:

1. Next year it will be 20 years since my first film, "Roger & Me," so I'd like to give those of you who've supported my work over the years a thank you gift in the form of a brand new movie; and

2. I hope the release and wide distribution of this new movie will help to bring out millions of young and new voters on November 4th.

"Slacker Uprising" takes place in the wake of "Fahrenheit 9/11," during the run-up to the 2004 election, as I traveled for 42 days across America, visiting 62 cities in a failed attempt to remove George W. Bush from office. My goal was to help turn out a record number of young voters and others who had never voted before. (That part was a success. Young adults voted in greater numbers than in any election since 18-year-olds were given the right to vote. And the youth vote was the only age group that John Kerry won.)

What I encountered during the tour and the filming was both inspiring and frightening, so I thought, hey, this might make for a funny and enlightening movie! Each night, thousands would show up to volunteer in the Slacker Army against Bush. This drove local Republicans nuts. In one state they tried to have me arrested. At two colleges, rich donors offered to donate more money to the college if they would ban me from campus. Nearly a half-dozen universities kept the Slacker Uprising tour off their campuses. But there was no stopping this movement. By the time we got to Florida, 16,000 people a night were showing up.

It was clear that young people were the ones who were going to save the day -- just as they are in this year's election.

On Tuesday, September 23rd, you will be able to stream, download, or burn a DVD of "Slacker Uprising," free of charge. The distribution is being organized by Robert Greenwald's Brave New Films (they're the great people behind "OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism" and "WAL-MART: The High Cost of Low Price").

To sign up for the download of "Slacker Uprising," click here. You have my blanket permission to share the movie with your friends, to set up screenings in your communities or theaters, to show it on your campuses -- all at no charge. I encourage you to rally voters with it, to raise funds for your favorite candidates, to air it on your local cable access channels or web broadcasts. You can also click here to request a free DVD of "Slacker Uprising" for your school or university library.

As I said, this is a movie for you, my fans -- a little 97-minute digital treat that I think you'll really enjoy. I hope you'll check out SlackerUprising.com and download it a week from today, next Tuesday, September 23rd.

Thanks again for coming to my movies all these years. It's meant a lot to me. I feel very privileged and blessed, and I am honored to be in this "virtual" community with you as we try to reclaim our beloved country.

Yours,

Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com

P.S. The world premiere of "Slacker Uprising" will take place in one of the great slacker capitals of this country, Ann Arbor, Michigan, this Thursday at 5pm at the historic Michigan Theater. Admission is free on a first-come, first-served basis. If you're in the neighborhood, hope to see you there!

P.P.S. If you live outside the U.S. and Canada, I'm sorry that I don't own the rights to make this film available to you for free. But it will be coming to a theater, video store or television network near you soon.

P.P.P.S. If you are not part of the "downloadable" generation, I am making a low-cost DVD of "Slacker Uprising" available at Amazon, Netflix and your local stores in October.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on September 20, 2008, 01:14:41 PM
The Daily Show - The Genric Off
http://www.indecision2008.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=185164

The Colbert Report - McCain Attcks Obama
http://www.indecision2008.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=185017
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 22, 2008, 10:59:18 AM
You may have heard about Palin's email account getting hacked..
O'Reily weighed in and got pwn3d by his own legal analyst.

Here's the story:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/bill-oreilly-ha.html

Here's the clip where O'Reily gets pwn3d by his hot legal analyst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCSaF4KC3eE

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 22, 2008, 11:28:14 AM
O'Reily is a joke. And that's about all I have to say about that.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on September 22, 2008, 06:24:49 PM

Too good!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on September 22, 2008, 07:00:24 PM
You may have heard about Palin's email account getting hacked..
O'Reily weighed in and got pwn3d by his own legal analyst.

Here's the story:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/bill-oreilly-ha.html

Here's the clip where O'Reily gets pwn3d by his hot legal analyst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCSaF4KC3eE



karma police, applaud this man  :-D (edit, rowjimmy)

i love watching this tool get pwn3d
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on September 22, 2008, 07:06:48 PM
O'Reily is an idiot!! he's in the wrong biz...he should be writing laws!! we would all be better off I'm sure... :roll:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 22, 2008, 11:03:32 PM
I have read it Bill.....I am done with this douche bag....there are so many clips to choose from, but this one, where he gets ripped by a teenage kid is just great....(note: i do not want to turn this into a rip on o'rielly thread, but it is quite amusing watching someone be so blatantly oblivious to their own obnoxious behavior)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beJ9yJpR_DA&feature=related

or how about this one? do you really want to get your news or trust someone that behaves this way?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJjNVVwRCY


Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Ri©h on September 23, 2008, 01:52:20 AM
O'Reily getting owned by a hot, aggressive babe.  Damn I love a smart woman.   :clap:  Too bad she works for Fox.  :roll:

And this...

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/dead_ahead/mccain-palin.png)

  :lol: :lol: :lol:

+k matt and RJ
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: natronzero on September 24, 2008, 03:10:11 AM
(http://www.bartcop.com/ad-apocalypse.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on September 24, 2008, 09:44:25 AM
(http://dadadot.org/sr/proof.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on September 24, 2008, 10:05:18 PM
Haven't seen this posted here yet.  It's from tonight's Letterman show.  Dave pwnz McCain

[youtube]XjkCrfylq-E[/youtube]

http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2008/09/24/leaked-video-mccain-blows-off-letterman-for-katie-couric/ (http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2008/09/24/leaked-video-mccain-blows-off-letterman-for-katie-couric/)

Quote
John McCain blew off David Letterman today because he said was getting back to Washington to address the economic crisis.

Only it turned out he wasn't in Washington, he was still in New York -- being interviewed by Katie Couric.

The attached YouTube is  "an hour of ridicule boiled down to nine minutes."

As Letterman watches him live with Couric, it looks like his head is about to explode.  McCain might be able to shrug off "one hundred years," but will he be able to survive  if Letterman's rage and OCD start to intersect over his campaign?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 24, 2008, 10:46:09 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 25, 2008, 10:56:05 AM
Wonderful. Hero, admirable, veteran, awesome. Know what though? He's still a no talent ass clown that is going to get romped on come election day so if I were him, I wouldn't want to debate tomorrow night either. And don't even get me started on Palin, she's a f-in joke! (Sorry for all the negativity, I'm just in that kind of a mood today! I'm going to take this to the rant page!)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on September 25, 2008, 11:13:40 AM
the road to the white house does go through letterman
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Ri©h on September 25, 2008, 11:57:24 AM
McCain walks with one foot in the grave.  And not just because he's older than Methuselah.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 25, 2008, 03:35:46 PM
(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo113/amk123amk/elitist2.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 26, 2008, 11:05:52 AM
Haven't seen this posted here yet.  It's from tonight's Letterman show.  Dave pwnz McCain

[youtube]XjkCrfylq-E[/youtube]

http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2008/09/24/leaked-video-mccain-blows-off-letterman-for-katie-couric/ (http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2008/09/24/leaked-video-mccain-blows-off-letterman-for-katie-couric/)

Quote
John McCain blew off David Letterman today because he said was getting back to Washington to address the economic crisis.

Only it turned out he wasn't in Washington, he was still in New York -- being interviewed by Katie Couric.

The attached YouTube is  "an hour of ridicule boiled down to nine minutes."

As Letterman watches him live with Couric, it looks like his head is about to explode.  McCain might be able to shrug off "one hundred years," but will he be able to survive  if Letterman's rage and OCD start to intersect over his campaign?


Night two of Letterman vs. McCain.
Seriously, Letterman went after McCain again for skipping Wednesday's show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7PB_cHljCE
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Ri©h on September 26, 2008, 11:40:00 AM
Yeah he's miffed.  McCain will probably be the butt of Dave's rants for a while now.  I was glad to see him point out that McCain didn't even leave New York until the next day.  What an ass (McCain).

"I feel like an ugly date"    :lol:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 26, 2008, 11:46:33 AM
Nothing could be dumber than to raise the ire of a mainstream popular figure with a nightly television show and nothing to lose.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on September 26, 2008, 01:15:38 PM
(http://coverawards.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/jonstewartcolbertnewyorker.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 26, 2008, 01:17:34 PM
(http://coverawards.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/jonstewartcolbertnewyorker.jpg)

Sweet.
I hope my copy arrives today.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: cactusfan on September 26, 2008, 02:59:24 PM
the palin interview as most of us actually saw it:


[youtube=425,350]WLhVGDy-ZXc[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Ri©h on September 26, 2008, 05:01:58 PM
I'd pick Ms. South Carolina as a running mate over Palin. 

Yowzaa!  :-D
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on September 26, 2008, 05:36:25 PM

McCain Wins Debate!

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/09/mccain_wins_debate.html
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Ri©h on September 27, 2008, 10:40:11 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on September 28, 2008, 10:05:24 PM
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4176/putinrearshisheadnz7.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Mr Minor on September 29, 2008, 09:58:32 AM
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4176/putinrearshisheadnz7.jpg)

Dude, Putin has a huge head.  :-o
Where does he buy his hats?

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gimmetela on September 29, 2008, 10:45:35 PM
unfortunately so true.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Guyute on September 29, 2008, 11:40:19 PM

McCain Wins Debate!

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/09/mccain_wins_debate.html

I realize this is making fun of the ad, but on points many feel that way.  I think what is really going on is the expectation of McCain's performance was lower than that of Obama so people felt better about it.  I wouldn't go that far.  I do feel Obama under-performed.  I expected him to be able to tare through McCain in this kind of setting and that didn't happen.  I have a feeling Barack will come out swinging in the next one.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 29, 2008, 11:51:03 PM
He's got a fine line to walk though, as I've read in certain articles, because he needs to be forceful and aggressive, but doesn't want to push away some voters as the "angry black man" role. Its tough, but I agree, I think he needs to come out swinging and realize this is dirty politics at this point. Nice guy attitude isn't going to win it. It never does. McCain acted like a ass, I heard a good point, if you were to just observe their body language through the debate, Obama looked calm and composed as opposed to McCains anger and smirks.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 01, 2008, 12:11:24 PM

(http://www.drawger.com/zinasaunders/images/Sarah-Palin-Hunter.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on October 01, 2008, 12:38:31 PM
^^ wow, that's fantastic.  It'd make a great stained-glass window, too.

I saw this last night and maybe it was where my head was, but it killed.  I totally lol'd.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N8_u1FLu30[/youtube]



Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 02, 2008, 10:33:35 PM
(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo111/lolpalin/lppt2/ohhellnoew5.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 02, 2008, 10:37:33 PM
LOL!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on October 02, 2008, 10:52:36 PM
one idea how to win FLA for Obama

http://www.thegreatschlep.com/site/index.html
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Guyute on October 02, 2008, 11:42:20 PM
(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo111/lolpalin/lppt2/ohhellnoew5.jpg)

Oh my god is that funny
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Ri©h on October 03, 2008, 02:30:32 AM
(http://www.qualitypeoples.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/mcsame.jpg)

(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/SLdkos/mcsame.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 03, 2008, 07:52:16 AM
one idea how to win FLA for Obama

http://www.thegreatschlep.com/site/index.html


Hilarious.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 03, 2008, 08:09:34 AM
one idea how to win FLA for Obama

http://www.thegreatschlep.com/site/index.html


Hilarious.

totally awesome.  i love sarah silverman...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 03, 2008, 09:31:11 AM
How nuts is O'Reilly? If he didn't rant and rave about everything, he might actually be able to make a point once in awhile, but since he does, he just comes off as a lunatic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmE4KW2rWQ
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: bluecaravan521 on October 03, 2008, 06:44:31 PM
 :frustrated:

Get that man off the air.  Dear god what an asshole.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: bluecaravan521 on October 03, 2008, 09:08:30 PM
From the Washington Post op-ed page this morning:

(http://i468.photobucket.com/albums/rr50/canuckster_or/ad.jpg)

Apologies for posting twice in a row but I thought this was worth showing up in the recent posts.  :-D
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 03, 2008, 09:20:02 PM
Wow. They run such a sharp and organized campaign. It's amazing that they aren't leading by 60-70 points.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 04, 2008, 05:18:52 AM
"She's an idiot" - Phish Fan, 10/03/08
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 05, 2008, 07:18:00 PM

wow, just wow...

The racist asshole who wrote this actually has a leadership role with the McCain/Palin ticket.

http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2008/10/why-we-campaign.html

(http://img.skitch.com/20081005-n23mhbgrdtg9kwyhgwmqu83aip.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on October 05, 2008, 09:57:07 PM
that's sick

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 05, 2008, 10:52:26 PM
that's sick



So is this.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T85cOGc8L0[/youtube]

Sarah Palin is an enthusiastic supporter of killing defenseless animals from the air, and offered helicopter and airplane shooters of wolves $150 each for a severed front leg of a wild wolf. But most are shot defenselessly from the air, often not killed outright and left to die on the ground. Palin enthusiastically defends this cruelty. You can find out more here. It is no accident that the Humane Society Legislative Fund has decided to endorse Obama for president this year. They have never endorsed a president before.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: bluecaravan521 on October 05, 2008, 11:07:22 PM
 :-( that's terrible... I heard about this soon after learning of Palin but had no idea it was so disgusting... poor wolves.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 06, 2008, 11:26:58 AM

Ralph Stanley's ad for Obama

http://www.folo.us/2008/10/02/ralph-stanley-cuts-the-best-radio-ad-of-the-cycle/

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 06, 2008, 02:40:55 PM

Ralph Stanley's ad for Obama

http://www.folo.us/2008/10/02/ralph-stanley-cuts-the-best-radio-ad-of-the-cycle/


:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: danje on October 06, 2008, 06:13:38 PM
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/vp-debate-open-palin-biden/727421/

SNL's coverage of the VP debate.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 09, 2008, 01:00:18 AM
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1104/thatonesk92cr1.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Mr Minor on October 09, 2008, 02:22:40 PM
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1104/thatonesk92cr1.jpg)

 :lol:

Sweet.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 10, 2008, 09:41:42 AM
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/645/postbm6.png)

Note the ad on the bottom right.
That's no photoshop job, I did the screencap myself.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 10, 2008, 10:43:41 AM
did i miss the point :?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on October 10, 2008, 10:45:06 AM
What's not funny about Ground breaking election coverage and Anal?!?  :-D
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 10, 2008, 10:49:22 AM
cmmon now kiddies  :lol:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 10, 2008, 11:31:16 AM
What you see in my post is how it appeared on my screen.
SER.

Not my fault that Chrome has a sense of humor.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 10, 2008, 11:44:30 AM
haha,

I've been realizing that chrome is pretty buggy

"grow up, or get a mac"
 :lol:

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 10, 2008, 12:34:36 PM
You wanna buy me a mac?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 10, 2008, 02:00:22 PM
doh!

okay how about this
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E[/youtube]

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 10, 2008, 02:11:33 PM
wow! seriously, i might just have to move canada even if barack DOES win!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 10, 2008, 02:22:38 PM
wow! seriously, i might just have to move canada even if barack DOES win!

I'm already here  :banana:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YInuTc3C3jM[/youtube]

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 10, 2008, 04:43:43 PM
I'm already here  :banana:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YInuTc3C3jM[/youtube]

 :roll:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 10, 2008, 09:48:14 PM
(http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/8708/palinwantsyouvs9fb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 10, 2008, 10:38:30 PM

It also could have said...

I Want You!

To shoot wolves from an airplane.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 11, 2008, 09:56:12 AM
I WANT YOU!

To fire my sisters ex-husband! Or else!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 11, 2008, 01:34:35 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7665238.stm

watch this one folks


this is brutalllllll

anyone watch yet?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Guyute on October 11, 2008, 07:20:11 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7665238.stm

watch this one folks


this is brutalllllll

anyone watch yet?

That sounds like McCain.  They are both good guys IMHO, it is just a matter of who you agree with in this one. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on October 11, 2008, 11:40:47 PM
reality check for palin
the "hockey mom" gets the crap booed out of her at a flyers game

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd4wQd_gbj8[/youtube]

 :-D
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 12, 2008, 12:14:43 AM
for probably the only time in my life, i am on the side of booing Philly fans...  :-o
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 12, 2008, 01:02:46 AM
Todd Palin on Mommy becoming the Mayor or Miss Whale Blubber 1996...this is to funny... :-D


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIwpg_QsYnc[/youtube]


"How can daddy be the boss if your momma's the mayor? Miss Whale Blubber 1996 is now the mayor. That kinda makes me feel uncomfortable, honey."
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 12, 2008, 01:53:23 AM
hahahaha too funny!

no, fisherman's better honey!  daddy's starting to feel funny!  miss whale blubber, miss moose hunter is now a mayor.  how did that happen?  turn off the camera honey, this is private fisherman talk.  daddy's in bed!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 12, 2008, 02:16:52 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4KTWjIn8As[/youtube]

Bill Maher - Reveals comments made by Sarah Palin's daughter's boyfriend about his opinion on life
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 12, 2008, 09:55:09 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7665238.stm

watch this one folks


this is brutalllllll

anyone watch yet?

i like how he just shakes it head at that lady at the end. i wonder if he's thinking, "What the hell? and THESE are the people supporting me? What have I been doing or saying or ads have I been putting out there to get these idiots on my side?"

i don't know thats really what he thought, i'm just saying...   :-P
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 13, 2008, 03:48:33 AM
Can we solve our economic problems with neverending "liquidity injections"? If you have more debt and inflation than actual capital, do you really have capitalism?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjcdy9imEEw[/youtube]


this ones less serious
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIfH0vY2ANA[/youtube]

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on October 13, 2008, 10:13:14 AM
Here's another serious asshole lending his user-generated personal touch to the McCain/Palin campaign

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkFG1ebuKZU[/youtube]

Later, the guy gets some air time on CBS:
Quote
A man brought a stuffed monkey doll wearing an Obama sticker to a Palin campaign event in Johnstown, Pa. Realizing he was caught on camera, he passed it off to a child he didn't know.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4515218n&tag=centerColumn;centerColumnContent
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on October 13, 2008, 09:06:54 PM
 :-D
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: bluecaravan521 on October 13, 2008, 09:16:09 PM
Hahahaha ytown that's great!  :-D
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on October 13, 2008, 09:42:32 PM
jewish?  schlep on down to florida and talk some sense into your grandparents

Sarah Silverman and The Great Schlep
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgHHX9R4Qtk[/youtube]

http://www.thegreatschlep.com/site/index.html

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on October 14, 2008, 02:17:45 PM
http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3 (http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3)
 :oops:



Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 14, 2008, 02:22:14 PM
wow, blatantly accusing blacks of being racist

wheres the next part, where they talk to McCain supporters in the same manner?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on October 14, 2008, 02:37:38 PM
wow, blatantly causing blacks of being racist

wheres the next part, where they talk to McCain supporters in the same manner?
do you even know what racist means? 

Being black and voting black isn't racist (it could argued as a vote of ignorance, but that is a tandem others can tackle).  Racism is defined as traits that promote racial superiority.  Having a black president doesn't equate to racial superiority for any race.  Obama has said he is putting Americans first, that would be all citizens. 

The point of the post was to point out the lack of knowledge by the people interviewed, granted it is a very, very, very small sample, it is still telling in that it shows individuals who haven't done their homework.  This isn't reflective of anything but that, it reveals no racial, social, or economical trends about voting, just that a few souls aren't informed.     
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 14, 2008, 02:45:42 PM
lets go to harlem and ask people if they are educated in politics

me saying racism was a hard call and it may be more along the lines of classism...

at least the radio hosts will be happy at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 14, 2008, 03:14:09 PM
wow, blatantly causing blacks of being racist

wheres the next part, where they talk to McCain supporters in the same manner?
do you even know what racist means? 

Being black and voting black isn't racist (it could argued as a vote of ignorance, but that is a tandem others can tackle).  Racism is defined as traits that promote racial superiority.  Having a black president doesn't equate to racial superiority for any race.  Obama has said he is putting Americans first, that would be all citizens. 

The point of the post was to point out the lack of knowledge by the people interviewed, granted it is a very, very, very small sample, it is still telling in that it shows individuals who haven't done their homework.  This isn't reflective of anything but that, it reveals no racial, social, or economical trends about voting, just that a few souls aren't informed.     

I thought it went along the lines of what we discussed yesterday and biscuits kids....definitely got a lot of uninformed voters out there, whether it be at a biscuits show or in harlem...or out in middle of nowhere ohio...wherever...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 14, 2008, 03:21:03 PM
(http://www.zoltron.com/store/images/print-obama-giclee.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 14, 2008, 04:11:58 PM
I'm usually not one to like hearing what musicians or celebs have to say on politics, but someone forwarded me this song, which I thought was pretty cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHA_ZTvOgUM

Anyhow, that made me want to find the speech it was taken from, which I hadn't heard before, but man, it is really damn good (especially from the 9 minute mark onwards):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe751kMBwms&feature=related
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 15, 2008, 08:24:45 AM
(http://yeswecarve.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/jwhite.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 15, 2008, 11:02:33 AM

Pretty funny video of Haydn Panettiere "stumping" for McCain...

some NSFW language kids:

http://www.popoholic.com/video/hayden-panettiere-mccain.html
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on October 15, 2008, 11:44:44 AM
for posterity...

TIMES UNION (http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=728326) -- Sand Lake , New York -- 10/10/2008 -- A General Election absentee ballot from Rensselaer County misspelling the name of Democratic candidate Barack Obama.

(http://dickcheneyretirementfund.googlepages.com/RensselaerCountyNY_absenteeballot.jpg)

"We have three different staff members who proof these things and somehow the typo got by us," said Republican Commissioner Larry Bugbee. "We really apologize."

Whoops.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 15, 2008, 01:44:31 PM
(http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/667/1221756086791fg6.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 15, 2008, 10:21:06 PM
Safe for work image (censored) of a very NSFW site... With a McCain/Palin ad on it.
http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capture002czp1.jpg


Here's the source...
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/20/131358/333
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 15, 2008, 11:49:17 PM
NSFW language:  http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/df8d1f5b7d
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 16, 2008, 11:44:48 AM
NSFW language:  http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/df8d1f5b7d

It's not your day, tet.
Mattstick beat you to this video back on page 11.



Pretty funny video of Haydn Panettiere "stumping" for McCain...

some NSFW language kids:

http://www.popoholic.com/video/hayden-panettiere-mccain.html
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 16, 2008, 12:16:17 PM
NSFW language:  http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/df8d1f5b7d

It's not your day, tet.
Mattstick beat you to this video back on page 11.



Pretty funny video of Haydn Panettiere "stumping" for McCain...

some NSFW language kids:

http://www.popoholic.com/video/hayden-panettiere-mccain.html

I saw that, but didn't have the heart to tell him. Ha ha ha.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 16, 2008, 12:37:26 PM
anyone else wanna pile on the tet-hate-wagon today?

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 16, 2008, 12:42:04 PM

So first of all I didn't know there was an Al-Jezzera English news broadcast...

I guess people on the board probably know or have met people like those in this piece, amazing to see what people will say on camera about Obama.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 16, 2008, 12:54:17 PM
anyone else wanna pile on the tet-hate-wagon today?



no hating going on...just ribbing....

secondly, the people in that al-jezerra piecce is just disturbing...but what's sad is i know people like that. my buddies girlfriend just said shit like that to me the other day, and my jaw just dropped. so i took the high road though and asked why she felt all that anger and negativity towards him, and she didn't have anything valid to say. after which i asked her about issues, what were important to her, and talked about those, and Obama's viewpoints on them, and she was just surprised, but still, i know it didn't make a damn bit of difference.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 16, 2008, 12:59:45 PM

So first of all I didn't know there was an Al-Jezzera English news broadcast...

I guess people on the board probably know or have met people like those in this piece, amazing to see what people will say on camera about Obama.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0[/youtube]

It's amazing the power of Fox news to poison the mind.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 16, 2008, 01:45:04 PM
shocking video, but i expect nothing less from Al Jazeera.

mattstick - FYI, they started up their English-language channel a few years ago.  nobody - not one US cable network - will pick it up.  which is sad, when you think about it...  i am a left-leaning Zionist and i'm interested in watching it, so what the hell are other people afraid of?  Fox News makes me nauseous, so i don't watch it.  anyone THAT offended by Al Jazeera can also not watch it!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 16, 2008, 02:09:24 PM
is this a re-post also? 

/ducks

Fox News, now with a laugh track!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doD3a5UnCC4[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 16, 2008, 05:27:29 PM
shocking video, but i expect nothing less from Al Jazeera.

mattstick - FYI, they started up their English-language channel a few years ago.  nobody - not one US cable network - will pick it up.  which is sad, when you think about it...  i am a left-leaning Zionist and i'm interested in watching it, so what the hell are other people afraid of?  Fox News makes me nauseous, so i don't watch it.  anyone THAT offended by Al Jazeera can also not watch it!

I google'd to see if it was available here and couldn't (quickly) find anything newer than 2006.

Quote
Al-Jazeera English hasn't applied to broadcast in Canada, however, the network will be streamed live on its Internet site english.aljazeera.net.

Many Arabic-speaking Canadians currently watch Arabic Al-Jazeera by satellite but it appears that no major Canadian cable companies are expected to pick up the network any time soon.

No cable television companies in Canada have applied to the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission to carry the English-language network.

In 2004, the CRTC ruled that the Arabic network can be broadcast in Canada, but imposed such strict rules that cable companies were reluctant to carry the channel.

For Canadian companies to pick up the network, they would be force to start the application process all over again.

The more news channels the better, IMO.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 17, 2008, 11:13:12 AM

McCain on Letterman last night:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PTWfRRJ8ZQ[/youtube]

"I screwed up"

"I haven't had that much fun since my last interrogation"

I think he's thrown in the towel here....
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 17, 2008, 11:55:38 AM
next debate would have been lying down?

his attempts at humor are consistently.....hmmmm.....oh, lame.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: bluecaravan521 on October 17, 2008, 04:04:00 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5SWQJWm6Tg[/youtube]

 :lol: Can't wait for Jan. 20
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 17, 2008, 04:36:16 PM
they both had good writers - McCain is better at the deadpan delivery, and Obama cracks himself up too much, which i would too if i had to read funny shit like that.

the whole yankee stadium/greek column thing was hilarious.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 17, 2008, 04:46:34 PM
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/tmacd9/voterepublican3-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 17, 2008, 04:49:27 PM
I liked the yankee stadium/ greek column bit too but my favorite part was the thing about McCain feeling the housing crunch 8 times more than the average family...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 17, 2008, 05:52:33 PM
"Barack" being Swahili for "that one" was a brilliant line too.  as was the fact that his middle name came from someone who never thought he would be running for President.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 17, 2008, 11:43:31 PM
hahahaa

barack made mccain look like mr. burns

;)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 17, 2008, 11:59:21 PM
yeah, it's nice to see them joke like that. i think most of what barack had was hilarious though.

"my greatest weakness...it is possible, i am a little too awesome."

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 18, 2008, 01:50:58 AM
I really liked the crypton part...

what if its true  :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 18, 2008, 01:25:42 PM
Please elect this guy.  He might just be too awesome.

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: danje on October 19, 2008, 11:44:37 AM
[youtube]Kf6YKOkfFsE[/youtube]

This is refreshing to watch.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 19, 2008, 12:48:53 PM

(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3182/p1020562ed6.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on October 20, 2008, 03:12:34 PM
U.S. House of Representatives nut-job Michele Bachmann (R) (http://www.michelebachmann.com/) of Minnesota's 6th District tries to help McCain and their team get the job done but instead blows up the internets with "Obama is Anti-American" nonsense on Hardball and her opponent Elwyn Tinklenberg (D) (http://www.tinklenberg08.com/) receives over $600,000 (http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/10/19/6th_district_democrat_tinklenberg_plans_big_advertising_blitz) in the next day and a half.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESdA52S4Dbg[/youtube]

That chick is nuts.  She says crazy stuff all the time.  Like recently, how there is no wildlife in the ANWR, and about how liberals' global warming fanaticism about saving the planet is unnecessary because someone already saved the planet 2000 years ago.  She's also kind of racist, if you ask me.  Point being, she's said some pretty over-the-top stuff before.  This was probably just like any other interview for her; too bad for her people paid attention this time.

Quote from: Former Secretary of State Colin Powell
...we've got a congress[woman] from Minnesota who's going around saying, 'Let's examine all congressmen to see who is pro-America and whose not pro-America.' We've got to stop this kind of nonsense and pull ourselves together...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 20, 2008, 04:18:27 PM
people like that are scary   :-o
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 20, 2008, 11:27:28 PM
Yep.
She probably believes that we don't need to save the world because the rapture is a'coming.

We call this "bat-shit crazy".
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 21, 2008, 01:18:20 AM
jedi, you elect this bitch?

how did she get into congress?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 21, 2008, 09:52:22 AM
A lot of Americans are, in fact, bat-shit crazy.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 21, 2008, 09:56:07 AM
A lot of Americans are, in fact, bat-shit crazy.

Some great/interesting discussion on the last Bill Mahrer about how far away from core values the Republican party has moved.  If in fact you're a good Christian, you can't support the current Republicans, nor can you support the current Republicans if you're any kind of Conservative. 

Bush/Rove may have fucked up the Republican party more than they fucked up the USA.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 21, 2008, 09:58:21 AM

And more from The Onion...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 21, 2008, 10:11:03 AM
A lot of Americans are, in fact, bat-shit crazy.

Some great/interesting discussion on the last Bill Mahrer about how far away from core values the Republican party has moved.  If in fact you're a good Christian, you can't support the current Republicans, nor can you support the current Republicans if you're any kind of Conservative. 

Bush/Rove may have fucked up the Republican party more than they fucked up the USA.

This all makes sense.
/me waits for the Real Time podcast...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 21, 2008, 10:41:32 AM
Conservatives turning on McCain....interesting....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbjg9Hh17lI
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on October 21, 2008, 01:39:38 PM
who says these guys can't reach across the aisle?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 21, 2008, 03:34:04 PM
A lot of Americans are, in fact, bat-shit crazy.

Some great/interesting discussion on the last Bill Mahrer about how far away from core values the Republican party has moved.  If in fact you're a good Christian, you can't support the current Republicans, nor can you support the current Republicans if you're any kind of Conservative. 

Bush/Rove may have fucked up the Republican party more than they fucked up the USA.

This all makes sense.
/me waits for the Real Time podcast...

Bush/Mccain
neo-conservatism

another reason I wanted ron paul, the TRUE republican for the nominee 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 21, 2008, 07:42:10 PM
Young Barack, but check out the kid behind him!

(http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2008-06/39580853.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 22, 2008, 09:47:16 AM
ha ha, more from the bat-shit crazy lady......

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081022/ap_on_el_ho/minnesota_congresswoman

Quote
ST. PAUL, Minn. – Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann says she regrets using the term "anti-American" while discussing Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's views, a remark that could threaten her re-election bid.

Bachmann told the St. Cloud Times on Tuesday that she "made a big mistake" by going on MSNBC's "Hardball," a show she said she'd never seen before her appearance last week. Her statement to host Chris Matthews that Obama "may have anti-American views" drew condemnation and helped her opponent, Democrat Elwyn Tinklenberg, raise more than $1 million in just a few days.

During an interview with the Times' editorial board, Bachmann said she walked into a trap and did not bring up the term "anti-American." Still, she said, "I should not have used that phrase."
Earlier in the day, Bachmann told St. Cloud Rotary Club members she would like to "take back" the statement.

"I did not say that Barack Obama was anti-American, nor do I believe Barack Obama is anti-American. He loves his country, just as everyone in this room does," she told the crowd. "Nor did I call for an investigation of members of Congress for their pro-American or anti-American views. That is not what I said."
Bachmann said that while she didn't question Obama's patriotism, "I'm very concerned about Barack Obama's views. I don't believe that socialism is a good thing for America."

The Rotary Club luncheon was her first formal public appearance since Friday's interview, in which Matthews asked Bachmann if she believed Obama held anti-American views. Her response was: "Absolutely. I'm very concerned that he may have anti-American views. That's what the American people are concerned about. That's why they want to know what his answers are."

Bachmann said Tuesday she probably should have watched "Hardball" to see what it was like before she went on it.  Democratic state Sen. Tarryl Clark, who attended the luncheon, said she didn't hear an apology from Bachmann.

"The facts are the facts about what she said and she can't erase them," Clark said. "She can apologize for them, but that's about it. People don't have the time for this. I thought she was denying what she said."
Before Friday's "Hardball" aired, Bachmann was favored to win a second term. National Democrats, sensing opportunity, announced Monday they would pour $1 million into TV ads in the district, which lies on a corridor from the Twin Cities northwest to St. Cloud.

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 22, 2008, 02:27:36 PM
How can anyone hate on this guy?
(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/453/slide_453_10956_large.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 22, 2008, 02:39:52 PM
From 2004:
(http://wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/tina-mccain.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 22, 2008, 07:33:46 PM
McCain is such a ladies man!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 23, 2008, 05:18:48 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMRlP8XeNsI[/youtube]

are you a qualified Republican??
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 23, 2008, 09:16:15 PM
 :-o

 :lol:

 :-o
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gimmetela on October 24, 2008, 12:52:37 AM
sorry y'all...

http://www.cnnbcvideo.com/index.html?nid=wpdzIiqR9CyfEizjTvTD3TM0Njg1NDc-&referred_by=9528218-Q43cFax
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on October 24, 2008, 01:05:33 AM
 :-o




 :lol:

Thats fuckin hilarious!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: cactusfan on October 24, 2008, 03:20:00 AM
russians sing love song to palin! is very beautiful!

[youtube=425,350]XR9V_aOCga0[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 24, 2008, 09:44:08 AM
sorry y'all...

http://www.cnnbcvideo.com/index.html?nid=wpdzIiqR9CyfEizjTvTD3TM0Njg1NDc-&referred_by=9528218-Q43cFax

that's f-ing awesome!  :lol:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gimmetela on October 24, 2008, 09:47:12 AM
Something else i have in common with Obama....

http://www.youtube.com/v/cpBzQI_7ez8&hl=en&fs=1
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 24, 2008, 09:48:19 AM
russians sing love song to palin! is very beautiful!

[youtube=425,350]XR9V_aOCga0[/youtube]

now THAT was HILARIOUS!!!  :lol:

it's like the russian flight of the conchords...ha ha ha!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 24, 2008, 11:30:13 AM
russians sing love song to palin! is very beautiful!

[youtube=425,350]XR9V_aOCga0[/youtube]

now THAT was HILARIOUS!!!  :lol:

it's like the russian flight of the conchords...ha ha ha!

Love it.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gimmetela on October 24, 2008, 11:46:53 AM
Dance off!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlAKnSCRWQM
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on October 24, 2008, 01:00:07 PM
in the unlikely event of a McCain win

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid988092926?bctid=1842856410

Matt, I think you especially will enjoy this
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 24, 2008, 01:09:16 PM

"doesn't it get kind of cold in Canada?"

Our lavish social programs will keep you warm all winter!

 :-D
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 24, 2008, 01:10:20 PM
"No tote bags!"
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on October 24, 2008, 01:50:35 PM
(http://mccain-news.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/sarah-palin.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 24, 2008, 03:25:22 PM
in the unlikely event of a McCain win

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid988092926?bctid=1842856410

Matt, I think you especially will enjoy this

that program worked great for me!

except i forgot to realize canada is CONSERVATIVE
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 24, 2008, 08:18:01 PM

Canada is "small c" conservative, and you can't really do anything with a minority government so it's not really conservative at all.

The Liberals will rule the land once again and things will be back to normal in Ottawa, maybe as early as 2 years from now.


Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 24, 2008, 08:18:29 PM

One of the funniest ads of the campaign so far:

Wassssup 2008

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq8Uc5BFogE[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 24, 2008, 08:23:45 PM

Wow, another doozy

"The Vet who did not vet"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03fcGelz8Hw[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on October 25, 2008, 02:30:24 AM
some very nice videos....

matt, party in my igloo 2009 new years!

y ou down?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 26, 2008, 08:23:14 PM
This was great. I couldn't stop laughing though at 2:47 when he burps up breakfast......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35WThM70yIc
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 26, 2008, 09:17:52 PM
I like the JOE the BIDEN line in the begining.... pretty funny

But also... His socialized plans to buy back the mortgages is because the country is in turmoil and Obama's plans for the same country in turmoil makes him a socialist....

Mr John McCain = Mr. Dual Standard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 27, 2008, 09:40:12 AM
(http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/images/2008/10/26/1207cover.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 27, 2008, 04:41:41 PM
(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4298/20080216157336nt9.jpg)


Can anyone tell me why Catholic Preists are so opposed to abortion??
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 28, 2008, 04:45:25 PM
(http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v361/164/43/503182388/n503182388_897579_5177.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 28, 2008, 10:30:10 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 28, 2008, 10:55:34 PM

Barack doesn't look too stoked to see Wayne!

The one with The Decemberists is better.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 29, 2008, 08:03:19 PM
One Heart Beat Away!!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C58ftgMMQxM[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 30, 2008, 10:49:08 AM
This isn't a vid or an image, but I didn't really know where else to put a joke, so:

One  sunny day in 2009 an old man approached the White House from across Pennsylvania Avenue , where he'd been sitting on a park bench. He spoke to  the U.S. Marine standing guard and said, 'I would like to go in and meet with
President Bush.'

The  Marine looked at the man and said, 'Sir, Mr. Bush is no longer president and no longer resides here.' The  old man said, 'Okay' and walked away.

The following day, the same man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, 'I would like to go in and meet with President  Bush.'  The Marine again told the man, 'Sir, as I said yesterday,  Mr. Bush is no longer president and no longer resides  here.' The  man thanked him and, again, just walked away.

The  third day, the same man approached the White House and spoke to the very same U. S. Marine, saying 'I would like to go in and meet with President Bush.' The  Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man and said,  'Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to speak to Mr. Bush.  I've told you already that Mr. Bush is no longer the  president and no longer resides here.  Don't you understand?'

The  old man looked at the Marine and said, 'Oh, I understand. I just  love hearing it.'

The  Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said, 'See you tomorrow.'
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 30, 2008, 12:39:15 PM
...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 30, 2008, 07:52:36 PM
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm162/tmacd9/palinforpres2a-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 30, 2008, 08:00:29 PM
First there was Refer Madness and now this!!


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg56KbtmARc[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on October 31, 2008, 04:07:15 PM
...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 31, 2008, 07:16:38 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbJsMPA0XvA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on November 03, 2008, 02:44:28 PM
I saw this on flickr this morning...
Titled: What it means to me

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/2999988520_ea76138527.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gritsncollards/2999988520/sizes/o/)

Quote from: grits'n collards, friend to all
Thing I hear constantly from certain politicians, especially in the South where I live, is that our "government is the problem" and that we need to "get government off our backs." It's strange that this is considered patriotic. In this democracy, our government is us; it is the manifestation of our national (American) community. Politicians who run against our government run against us. When they seek to diminish the government, they diminish our community. Government is not the problem, bad politicians are the problem. Especially when they fail to recognize the good our government can do for our national community, as it expresses the strength of what Americans can do together, and how we care for our neighbor whether down the lane or on the far side of the continent. It's not that any one should be for big government, or small government, rather we should be for a government that embodies and is an instrument of our national community and our goodwill towards our neighbors. This is what I will have in mind when I pull the lever tomorrow. I am taking my six year old with me so he can be a part of it too, so that when his time comes he can grow up to be for the people, rather than cynically against.
[link (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gritsncollards/2999988520/)]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 03, 2008, 03:14:00 PM
I saw this on flickr this morning...
Titled: What it means to me

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/2999988520_ea76138527.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gritsncollards/2999988520/sizes/o/)

Quote from: grits'n collards, friend to all
Thing I hear constantly from certain politicians, especially in the South where I live, is that our "government is the problem" and that we need to "get government off our backs." It's strange that this is considered patriotic. In this democracy, our government is us; it is the manifestation of our national (American) community. Politicians who run against our government run against us. When they seek to diminish the government, they diminish our community. Government is not the problem, bad politicians are the problem. Especially when they fail to recognize the good our government can do for our national community, as it expresses the strength of what Americans can do together, and how we care for our neighbor whether down the lane or on the far side of the continent. It's not that any one should be for big government, or small government, rather we should be for a government that embodies and is an instrument of our national community and our goodwill towards our neighbors. This is what I will have in mind when I pull the lever tomorrow. I am taking my six year old with me so he can be a part of it too, so that when his time comes he can grow up to be for the people, rather than cynically against.
[link (http://www.flickr.com/photos/gritsncollards/2999988520/)]
:clap:

Thank You for sharing that.

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on November 03, 2008, 03:47:56 PM
Ha ha ha, this shit always cracks me up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g09NJ2IrSoU&feature=related

The original:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi_c6D8SPcE
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: redrum on November 04, 2008, 11:39:48 AM
(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm247/unclejohn78/thmccainhamsterkm9.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on November 05, 2008, 11:30:30 AM
(http://www.patrickmoberg.com/november-4-2008.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 05, 2008, 11:40:22 AM
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t291/smbrinich/Humor/election-outcome.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on November 06, 2008, 11:36:20 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3186/2890200141_c9f7eb738b.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on November 06, 2008, 11:43:32 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3186/2890200141_c9f7eb738b.jpg?v=0)

ha ha, you know he does! oh it's on.....
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on November 07, 2008, 09:20:41 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/3005830786_7c129b67c4_o.jpg)
translation:

That ends the insanity.

From today on again hope prevails in America - and the world draws a deep breath
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on November 08, 2008, 01:57:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xPmz95Trm4
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Phunkaddict on November 08, 2008, 02:42:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xPmz95Trm4
That was just awesome! Thanks for sharing... +
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: edemille on November 09, 2008, 09:54:28 AM
.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: jspfunk on November 09, 2008, 02:27:38 PM
I wanted to thank the person who posted my obama celebration slideshow. Its the first thing I ever uploaded and I am so glad that people are being moved by it. Even better to see that it is being shared on this wonderful  :phish: website. So, I thought I would share another compliation. Enjoy....

http://www.youtube.com/v/_fergrKQ5Nw&hl=en&fs=1
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on November 09, 2008, 02:42:44 PM
I wanted to thank the person who posted my obama celebration slideshow. Its the first thing I ever uploaded and I am so glad that people are being moved by it. Even better to see that it is being shared on this wonderful  :phish: website. So, I thought I would share another compliation. Enjoy....


sweet dude, thanks for sharing this too!

FYI, you just need to paste the URL (address) of the YouTube video and our system here will automagically make it viewable in the forum - no need to use their "share" code (i edited your post to take out the unnecessary code).  alternatively, you can paste the URL here and use the little YouTube button (top left, above the smileys) to add the proper tags, but generally it will be picked up without your having to do that.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on November 09, 2008, 03:49:15 PM
 :-o

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3206/3013067128_3014f9bc7a_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Declan on November 09, 2008, 07:04:19 PM
definitely the majority of our ground troops...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on November 13, 2008, 10:07:01 PM

http://www.supertouchart.com/2008/11/13/newspolitikssmithsonian-in-talks-to-acquire-shepard-fairey-obama-portrait/

(http://www.supertouchart.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/manhopeghi.jpg)

If the SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION has its way, a giant fine art version of SHEPARD FAIREY’s iconic portrait of the now-president elect BARACK OBAMA will enter the collection of its NATIONAL PORTRAIT GALLERY as the first official fine art rendering of the future president. The only hitch? Money. The $75,000 price tag for the piece, which was created by Fairey as the centerpiece of his “Manifest Hope” Obama art show that took place in Denver during this year’s DNC, must be raised through donations, though word on the street is that the museum is close to meeting this figure. As if having a street artist with a criminal record branding a presidential campaign weren’t enough, this move can definitely be filed under the headers of “Hope,” and “Progress.”

(http://www.supertouchart.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/manhopegh.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on November 14, 2008, 09:58:00 AM

Not really an Alex Grey fan, but his Obama is pretty impressive.

(http://www.supertouchart.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/agobama1.jpg)

Some process pictures here:

http://www.supertouchart.com/2008/11/14/politiksvisionary-artist-alex-grey-portrays-obamas-universal-mind/
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on November 14, 2008, 10:07:57 AM
Trifecta!

I love this one, as seen on the streets of Chicago

(http://www.woostercollective.com/america.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: redrum on November 14, 2008, 10:28:12 AM

Not really an Alex Grey fan, but his Obama is pretty impressive.

(http://www.supertouchart.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/agobama1.jpg)

Some process pictures here:

http://www.supertouchart.com/2008/11/14/politiksvisionary-artist-alex-grey-portrays-obamas-universal-mind/

wow.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on November 14, 2008, 10:52:36 AM
Trifecta!

I love this one, as seen on the streets of Chicago

(http://www.woostercollective.com/america.jpg)

we saw this that night after leaving grant park...
as well as the one i posted of obama spinning a b-ball and a law book...

good stuffs around town right now :)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on November 14, 2008, 11:30:41 AM

Not really an Alex Grey fan, but his Obama is pretty impressive.

(http://www.supertouchart.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/agobama1.jpg)

Some process pictures here:

http://www.supertouchart.com/2008/11/14/politiksvisionary-artist-alex-grey-portrays-obamas-universal-mind/

wow.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on November 14, 2008, 11:45:50 AM

http://www.supertouchart.com/2008/11/13/newspolitikssmithsonian-in-talks-to-acquire-shepard-fairey-obama-portrait/

(http://www.supertouchart.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/manhopeghi.jpg)

If the SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION has its way, a giant fine art version of SHEPARD FAIREY’s iconic portrait of the now-president elect BARACK OBAMA will enter the collection of its NATIONAL PORTRAIT GALLERY as the first official fine art rendering of the future president. The only hitch? Money. The $75,000 price tag for the piece, which was created by Fairey as the centerpiece of his “Manifest Hope” Obama art show that took place in Denver during this year’s DNC, must be raised through donations, though word on the street is that the museum is close to meeting this figure. As if having a street artist with a criminal record branding a presidential campaign weren’t enough, this move can definitely be filed under the headers of “Hope,” and “Progress.”

(http://www.supertouchart.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/manhopegh.jpg)

75K actually seems cheap given the historic nature of the piece.  I could see it being worth 7 figures some day. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on November 14, 2008, 11:52:47 AM

Well if you live in LA and want your very own...

Shepard Fairey has a few more signed copies of his large “Hope” Obama thin paper offset to get rid of, so they are holding a special release this weekend at Subliminal Projects in LA.  Copies will be $50, and the doors open Saturday, November 16 at 12pm PST (though I expect people will be lined up well before then).  The prints can be purchased by credit card only, and if you already scored one through Obey Giant, they will not sell you one.  Subliminal Projects is located at 1331 W. Sunset Blvd. in Los Angeles.  For more info, visit SubliminalProjects.com.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on November 20, 2008, 03:04:21 PM
U.S. House of Representatives nut-job Michele Bachmann (R) (http://www.michelebachmann.com/) of Minnesota's 6th District tries to help McCain and their team get the job done but instead blows up the internets with "Obama is Anti-American" nonsense on Hardball and her opponent Elwyn Tinklenberg (D) (http://www.tinklenberg08.com/) receives over $600,000 (http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/10/19/6th_district_democrat_tinklenberg_plans_big_advertising_blitz) in the next day and a half.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESdA52S4Dbg[/youtube]

That chick is nuts.  She says crazy stuff all the time.  Like recently, how there is no wildlife in the ANWR, and about how liberals' global warming fanaticism about saving the planet is unnecessary because someone already saved the planet 2000 years ago.  She's also kind of racist, if you ask me.  Point being, she's said some pretty over-the-top stuff before.  This was probably just like any other interview for her; too bad for her people paid attention this time.

Quote from: Former Secretary of State Colin Powell
...we've got a congress[woman] from Minnesota who's going around saying, 'Let's examine all congressmen to see who is pro-America and whose not pro-America.' We've got to stop this kind of nonsense and pull ourselves together...

people like that are scary   :-o

Yep.
She probably believes that we don't need to save the world because the rapture is a'coming.

We call this "bat-shit crazy".

jedi, you elect this bitch?

how did she get into congress?

A lot of Americans are, in fact, bat-shit crazy.

(http://dickcheneyretirementfund.googlepages.com/bachmann_urbanlegend.jpeg)

Well, she's still bat-shit crazy.  And, without any help from myself (or, I doubt, jedi), this bitch is back in congress.  What's she up to now?  For one thing, she wants on to the Committee on Ways & Means, due to her increased cred and public image points she scored during the campaign (she doesn't get how bad it was - remember, she's crazy).  And the other night, she showcased her disconnection with reality with some delusions on the above subject on FOXNews.  I didn't watch it or anything, but here's an excerpt from today's Minneapolis StarTribune:

Quote
Rep. Michele Bachmann, appearing Tuesday night on Fox News' show with Sean Hannity and Alan Colmes, dismissed as an "urban legend" reports that she had suggested on a preelection cable show with MSNBC's Chris Matthews that then-Sen. Barack Obama and other members of Congress may be "anti-American" and that the media should investigate them as such.
...
Bachmann suggested, as she has before, that she was baited and trapped by the media, which created an "urban legend" about what she says she really said.

"What I said was, 'Do your job,'" Bachmann said. "That's what I said."

Anyway.  Bitch is nuts. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: bluecaravan521 on November 20, 2008, 10:28:30 PM
^^ Nice Obama artwork!

And yeah, Michele Bachmann is crazy.  "Bachmann Pathology Overdrive"  :lol:

Digging through some old video archives, found this video:

http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=46832&altf=Spx&altl=Kjnnz (http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=46832&altf=Spx&altl=Kjnnz)

It appears as though RowJimmy started his bid earlier than he has led us to believe...  :-o
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on November 24, 2008, 02:11:49 PM
Waaazzzzuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuppppppp.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on November 24, 2008, 06:45:22 PM
we've seen palin being interviewed in front of a bunch of turkeys being slaughtered, right?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-kjM1asH-8[/youtube]

....but, have you seen the newly leaked outtakes?!?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLKN6mPCQHU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on December 09, 2008, 06:02:08 PM
Obama Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, has a message for you.

http://widgets.nbc.com/o/4727a250e66f9723/493ef4f7db0a17e4/4741e3c5156499a7/bf16972c/-cpid/c1f0fc0c15c94ee8
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on December 17, 2008, 05:19:38 PM
 :clap:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3054/3116088570_3dba699d4c.jpg)

I know, I'm sure it's a cigarette, too.

  :wink:


Obama: The College Years (http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1866765,00.html) photos at Time.com

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on January 23, 2009, 09:32:55 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neCIg0BiXbE[/youtube]

(http://shirtsta.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/obama_fist_bump_shirt.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: tet on February 08, 2009, 05:31:11 PM
(http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/att00000lg2.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on February 08, 2009, 07:32:54 PM
that's kind of disturbing in quite a few ways...  :-o
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on February 09, 2009, 03:50:09 PM
is it just me, or does it look like someone taped a sign on his back?   :lol:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on February 09, 2009, 03:52:21 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neCIg0BiXbE[/youtube]

(http://shirtsta.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/obama_fist_bump_shirt.jpg)


Eeeew. Just, plain "eeeew."
is it just me, or does it look like someone taped a sign on his back?   :lol:

Not just you--I see it too.

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Marmar on March 14, 2009, 06:59:28 PM
time to wake up.....take the time to watch it and WAKE UP.....

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=7886780711843120756&hl=en&fs=true
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Guyute on March 15, 2009, 11:35:16 PM
 :roll:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on March 26, 2009, 12:55:41 PM
Not a video, but just wanted to comment, my favorite part about the other nights press conference was when the reporter kept pushing Obama as into why it took him a few days to respond to the AIG bonuses mess, he said, "Because I like to know what I am talking about." A president that actually reads and thinks about things as opposed to just shooting his mouth off....amazing.  :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: The Ghost on March 28, 2009, 07:57:47 PM
interesting, but scarey
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 16, 2009, 11:45:28 AM
Seen at the ridiculous 9/12 astroturf fest on the mall this weekend:

(http://shannynmoore.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/fixed2.jpg?w=500&h=333)

(http://www.bobcesca.com/images/medicare_sign_teabaggers.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on September 16, 2009, 12:36:15 PM
more signs (http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/09/the-ten-best-signs-from-the-teaparty-march.html)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on September 16, 2009, 12:41:51 PM
Gold Jerry, Gold (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/15/birther-hip-ho/)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on September 16, 2009, 01:09:12 PM
Gold Jerry, Gold (http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/15/birther-hip-ho/)

(http://images.pishmaster.net/data/media/36/lollerskates.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on September 16, 2009, 02:03:56 PM
this signs are tame compared to the shit shown in the first 2 minutes of this video

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#32849407

"bury obamacare with kennedy"

"the zoo has an african lion, we have a lyin african"

"we came unarmed [this time]"

"opressive bloodsucking arrogant muslim alien"


i firmly believe what jimmy carter said yesterday, this has nothing to do w/ issues, legislation, or policy.  it has everything to do with race
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on September 16, 2009, 02:11:11 PM
I think it does for some people.  For others it doesn't.

Regardless of whether or not Joe Wilson's actions were motivated by racism, it lowers the level of discourse to stop the debate on the actual issues which precipitated Mr. Wilson's comment, Economic Reform and Health Care Reform and focus the debate on whether those who disagree with the President are "Racists".

The same tactic was used in 2002 with those who disagreed with President Bush, and I did not appreciate it then.

Our President of the United States of America is not a king, and what Mr. Wilson did was not illegal.  Perhaps Mr. Wilson broke the rules of the House of Representitives, but that is an issue between him and the house.  If those whom he directly represents feel as if he has misrepresented their interests, that is an issue between him and his constituents.

However,  Congress has been continuously strongarmed by the Executive Branch for the past year.  Additionally, Obama promised us bipartisan action moving forward during his campaign.  Part of his platform was to work with members of both major parties.  According to the reporting I've heard on NPR recently, this is not true.  Republicans feel as though their ideas are given absolutely zero weight.  Again, Obama promised us that this would not happen.

Calling Joe Wilson a racist is bad for all of us, and I hope that Mr. Carter realizes this and learns from it.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 16, 2009, 02:42:49 PM
Well, Carter said that much of the anger is driven by racism but he qualified it as not being the motivation for everyone.

As for Joe Wilson, pretty sure he was one of 7 state senators to vote in favor of keeping the confederate flag at the state house Citing that "the Confederate heritage is very honorable."

Plus he has been a member of The Sons of Confederate Veterans which is calling for secession...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on September 16, 2009, 03:29:48 PM
I couldnt give a shit about Joe Wilson, I dont think he yelled "You Lie!" because he's a racist, he yelled it because he thinks that the bill will inevitably cover illegal aliens.  I disagree w/ him, mainly because illegals already get free coverage when they walk into an emergency room and dont pay their bill after they leave.  Id like to hear how he proposes that we stop that. 

President Carter did not only address his claims towards Joe Wilson, he addressed society as a whole saying:

Quote
"I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American," Carter said.

And when I see these whackos w/ signs calling Obama an "Illegal Alien" and a "Lyin' African," I fully agree with him.  Those signs and protests are not targeted at legislation or policy, be it health care reform or financial policy, bailouts, or whatever else.  And they wouldnt be screaming these things so loudly if he wasnt a black man from an immigrant family.  Plain and simple.  To me, that equals racism. 

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 16, 2009, 03:54:39 PM
I couldnt give a shit about Joe Wilson, I dont think he yelled "You Lie!" because he's a racist, he yelled it because he thinks that the bill will inevitably cover illegal aliens.  I disagree w/ him, mainly because illegals already get free coverage when they walk into an emergency room and dont pay their bill after they leave.  Id like to hear how he proposes that we stop that. 

President Carter did not only address his claims towards Joe Wilson, he addressed society as a whole saying:

Quote
"I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American," Carter said.

And when I see these whackos w/ signs calling Obama an "Illegal Alien" and a "Lyin' African," I fully agree with him.  Those signs and protests are not targeted at legislation or policy, be it health care reform or financial policy, bailouts, or whatever else.  And they wouldnt be screaming these things so loudly if he wasnt a black man from an immigrant family.  Plain and simple.  To me, that equals racism. 



Agreed...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on September 16, 2009, 04:53:01 PM
There is just a boatload of anger out there. There is not doubt that much of it is fueled by racism. The rest by paranoia, ignorance, and fear.
Yes, some of it is "healthy disagreement" of policies.
Unfortunately, the signs and pictures that have been displayed are more of the first sentence.

btw, where was the "tea party" protesting the skyrocketing deficits during the last admin?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 16, 2009, 11:03:56 PM

btw, where was the "tea party" protesting the skyrocketing deficits during the last admin?

"He was a white guy that was borned in these us of a and he was doing gods will so it would have been unamerikin to protest him."

Seriously though, that's what I asked a guy on the train today when he said he was "fed up with all the crazy spending".

btw: Have you guys seen this?
http://www.billionairesforwealthcare.com/
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on September 16, 2009, 11:09:02 PM

btw, where was the "tea party" protesting the skyrocketing deficits during the last admin?

"He was a white guy that was borned in these us of a and he was doing gods will so it would have been unamerikin to protest him."

Seriously though, that's what I asked a guy on the train today when he said he was "fed up with all the crazy spending".

btw: Have you guys seen this?
http://www.billionairesforwealthcare.com/

nice.  same folks behind billionaires for bush, i assume.
saw them at a few protests and they were pretty funny
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on September 16, 2009, 11:09:26 PM
I posted in another thread that thats one of the most disgusting part about all of this...

These people chanted "USA! USA!" when we went into Iraq on completely fabricated pretenses to kill around 90K people (according to iraqbodycount.org, which is probably a little high, but whatever, its still a ton of dead people). 

But now that we want to spend a comparable amount of money to help a bunch of Americans, the president's a nazi, an illegal alien, spending is out of control, and theyre showing up to Presidential events w/ machine guns. 

Sickening. 

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on September 16, 2009, 11:12:38 PM
I think I am going to try to venture downtown during the G20 summit next week with my camera.  I'm sure it's going to be a zoo but i would love to get some pictures
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on September 16, 2009, 11:18:56 PM
Some of it's racism and some of it is just generic ignorance.

Let's not forget that Clinton, technically a white man  :-D, was hounded at every turn for almost the entirety of his administration. 

Basically, respect for the office of the President of the United States is only applicable for Republicans when one of their own is in power. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 17, 2009, 11:06:31 AM
this signs are tame compared to the shit shown in the first 2 minutes of this video

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#32849407


Wow. People disgust me.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on September 18, 2009, 01:32:53 AM
I hold Democrats wholly responsible for not hounding the fuck out of George Bush.

I hold Republicans wholly responsible for not hounding the fuck out of George Bush.

I hold Barack Obama wholly responsible for promising me the same health care members of the Senate and House receive and pulling the "bait and switch".

maybe this should be in the today i hate column?

I just saw the dude I get hot dogs from uptown when I used to pedicab.  Hadn't seen him in a while.  Dude has liver cancer.  How the fuck is this dude supposed to afford cancer and live?  How the fuck is Slim supposed to afford back spasms and live?  What the fuck?  When the fuck do I get to complain about how I do all the work and the lemmings live off the rudiments of my gruel?

Seriously, I can understand people wanting to have a lot of things and nice things, and for their friends to have nice things.

What I cannot understand, what I cannot tolerate, what I cannot respect is when people get satisfaction when others do not have the luxuries or the freedoms they possess.

You should gain enough satisfaction from having nice stuff, and gain even more satisfaction when others you know also have nice stuff.

....
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on September 18, 2009, 01:43:08 AM
Bauchus Bill is 85% SHIT.  Obama sold out healthcare long before it was necessary. 

But its still early for that bill, as it has to go to the house, the joint committee, whatever else. 

But its hard to be too hopeful about it at this point. 

Im starting to understand why there are so many jaded people out there who now call themselves Libertarians, or worse/better(?) apolitical.

Obama is doing the Sunday morning interview shows this weekend, might be interesting to see where he thinks this bill is going.  Unfortunately, the commentators are going to try to focus on this race issue just as much as health care, I suspect. 

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: inourdr on September 18, 2009, 01:46:00 AM
this signs are tame compared to the shit shown in the first 2 minutes of this video

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#32849407


Wow. People disgust me.

It's people like this that make me ashamed to be an American at times.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on September 18, 2009, 01:53:51 AM
Bauchus Bill is 85% SHIT.  Obama sold out healthcare long before it was necessary. 

But its still early for that bill, as it has to go to the house, the joint committee, whatever else. 

But its hard to be too hopeful about it at this point. 

Im starting to understand why there are so many jaded people out there who now call themselves Libertarians, or worse/better(?) apolitical.

Obama is doing the Sunday morning interview shows this weekend, might be interesting to see where he thinks this bill is going.  Unfortunately, the commentators are going to try to focus on this race issue just as much as health care, I suspect.

Dude.  I was burnt out on Obama on March 17, 2008 when Bear Stearns was sold at two bucks a share and Obama made his most epic, most important Jeremiah Wright speech.  Hello, the financial meltdown started in earnest right then and there.  Too bad everyone was focused on Obama's unifying "race speech" and nobody realised that our Economy was going straight into the crapper.


"Hope" and "Change" doesn't come from the Governement, and it does not come from a revolution.  Hope and Change occur when the people who abuse others and themselves learn why their distructive behavior is litterally choking us.

Really, and truly, I would like for everyone to prove me wrong, and prove that "Hope" is a gateway to "Faith" and "Change" manifests itself into "Progress".
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on September 18, 2009, 09:47:46 AM
Bauchus Bill is 85% SHIT.  Obama sold out healthcare long before it was necessary. 

But its still early for that bill, as it has to go to the house, the joint committee, whatever else. 

But its hard to be too hopeful about it at this point. 

Im starting to understand why there are so many jaded people out there who now call themselves Libertarians, or worse/better(?) apolitical.

Obama is doing the Sunday morning interview shows this weekend, might be interesting to see where he thinks this bill is going.  Unfortunately, the commentators are going to try to focus on this race issue just as much as health care, I suspect.

Dude.  I was burnt out on Obama on March 17, 2008 when Bear Stearns was sold at two bucks a share and Obama made his most epic, most important Jeremiah Wright speech.  Hello, the financial meltdown started in earnest right then and there.  Too bad everyone was focused on Obama's unifying "race speech" and nobody realised that our Economy was going straight into the crapper.


"Hope" and "Change" doesn't come from the Governement, and it does not come from a revolution.  Hope and Change occur when the people who abuse others and themselves learn why their distructive behavior is litterally choking us.

Really, and truly, I would like for everyone to prove me wrong, and prove that "Hope" is a gateway to "Faith" and "Change" manifests itself into "Progress".
Shifting the burden of proof doesn't validate your argument.  The fact that you have always supported John Edwards for president is enough to completely discredit you.  The guy is the epitome of a Washington politician, corrupt, immoral, and a self righteous, hypocritical douche bag.  So for you to make these arguments against Obama while you have posted numerous comments fluffing Edwards makes me question your sanity.  Obama isn't perfect, but he's not tainted like the rest of Washington.     

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on September 18, 2009, 11:07:10 AM
::sigh::  and people wonder why progressive agendas never get off the ground.

Just look at clowns like kidinthecorner calling Obama "George Bush III".

Until we get our own people on the same page we will never be able to overcome the well organized conservative propaganda machine.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on September 18, 2009, 11:21:03 AM
Until we get our own people on the same page we will never be able to overcome the well organized conservative propaganda machine.

We cant even get our own Democratic Congress on the same page w/ each other... 

The propaganda machine shouldnt be affecting Congress.  Its really not even affecting independents or moderates.  Theyre inflaming their base but thats not enough to curb the healthcare debate.   The problem is that too many of these Senators are whores for the Healthcare Industry.  I really dont believe that a strong ground movement is going to convince some of these "Blue Dog Democrats" like Max Bauchus. 

Trust me, Jay Rockefeller has gotten plenty of emails from me, and he's standing up to guys like Bauchus and trying to impose the people's will, but right now he's standing alone it seems. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on September 18, 2009, 11:31:54 AM
The healthcare debate is one thing.

I just wish people that are on the left end of the spectrum could support our guy once he gets in office, despite the inevitable flaws. 

It was the same thing with Clinton, liberals constantly criticizing him for moving to the center on issues. 

Nobody's perfect and while I agree that it is unfortunate, compromise is the way our government works. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on September 18, 2009, 07:45:45 PM
The ignorance in this country is beyond my belief... I have no words for the way people act in this country towards politics and the divide in this country is becoming so extreme its on the verge of becoming violent... Most of these people would benefit from a government run health care system, yet they are so opposed to it... The majority of the country voted all Democrat, 240 days into Obama's first term and many people have jumped ship and are already pointing fingers of mass blame towards him... How fast they forgot just how bad the Bush debacle was and how fast did they really expect change to come after Obama took office... and now one of the biggest things he ran on which is reformed health care is being shot down with a vengeance...   
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on September 21, 2009, 05:33:05 PM
not unexpected or surprising, but, lol, just the same.  these people are so pathetic.

ASTROTURF

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/19/fox-news-producer-caught_n_292529.html

"Fox News Producer Caught Rallying 9/12 Protest Crowd In Behind-The-Scenes Video"
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on September 21, 2009, 05:45:30 PM
This G20 summit is only a couple of days away and I still am not sure what to expect.  I saw that protesters where already starting to arrive at the point park last night.  I know that about half of downtown will be restricted and closed off and that traffic is going to be ridiculous.  This will all be going down about a mile and a half from my house.  Still thinking of seeing where I can go and taking the camera along
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on September 21, 2009, 05:51:38 PM
This G20 summit is only a couple of days away and I still am not sure what to expect.  I saw that protesters where already starting to arrive at the point park last night.  I know that about half of downtown will be restricted and closed off and that traffic is going to be ridiculous.  This will all be going down about a mile and a half from my house.  Still thinking of seeing where I can go and taking the camera along

it would be fun to shoot (photograph) some protesters, etc.  i saw a tent city in the park on the news after football yesterday.  looks like its gonna be pretty crazy down there.  wish i could come up for a day and just walk around downtown and see whats going down. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on September 25, 2009, 12:08:01 AM
I didn't make it down today.  I actually called and rescheduled that appointment I had so I wouldn't have to deal with getting there and back.  I heard it got a little nasty downtown.  I have stuff to do tomorrow too, but I may try to get up early and hit the scene for a couple hours before my day gets started.  We'll see
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on September 25, 2009, 12:16:58 AM
Protest images on the news were crazy, problem is, I never even got what those people were protesting. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on September 25, 2009, 12:17:42 AM
Protest images on the news were crazy, problem is, I never even got what those people were protesting.

I'm sure most of them don't even know what they are protesting
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on September 25, 2009, 12:19:57 AM
Protest images on the news were crazy, problem is, I never even got what those people were protesting.

I'm sure most of them don't even know what they are protesting

thats kinda how it seemed... 

im all for some good protesting, but a lot of the folks i saw on the news looked like they were just out there because everyone else was out there. 

maybe theyre all anarchists or something, lol. 

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on September 25, 2009, 12:23:04 AM
Some were
The local had a little bit on the news last night about some local anarchist org.  They showed a little vid clip and it looked like a group of angry teenagers who have not hit puberty yet
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on September 25, 2009, 12:27:02 AM
Crazy kids and their protest parties. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on September 25, 2009, 12:28:19 AM
They will be washing the tear gas out of their dreads tonight
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on September 25, 2009, 12:28:27 AM
Theres an anarchist punk rock drunkard in my town that will corner anyone who is talking politics in a certain bar downtown and loudly force his opinions on you until you want to punch him in the face.  Ive been close...  Once I told him that if we lived in an anarchist nation Id break my beer bottle on his head because thered be nobody to take me to jail for assault afterwards.  Ive seen him bloodied up a couple of times, still drinking, not caring.  Crazy fucker, Im sure he was up there today if he could stay sober enough and find a ride. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 25, 2009, 10:17:36 AM
Protest images on the news were crazy, problem is, I never even got what those people were protesting.

if i went, i'd protest the protesting protesters.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on September 27, 2009, 09:04:29 PM
These are the most frightening people... . . . .

http://www.youtube.com/v/lUPMjC9mq5Y&hl=en&fs=1&
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 28, 2009, 10:37:17 AM
I see that truck around town all the time. It's disturbing.
One of these days I'm going to snap and deface it.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on September 28, 2009, 11:28:18 AM
They perfectly express the brilliance that stand behind the great speakers of the Republican party in this great nation...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on September 30, 2009, 01:26:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/7-W4GWjN2kg&hl=en&fs=1&

Wow.  Simply wow.  In his first two sentences Bill Clinton says "I represent real hope for change".

Every time I see Bill Clinton speak during his first term, I am slapped in the face with how much Barack Obama's campaign has litterally stolen from Mr. Clinton's campaign.  Bill is the type of politician you only see once in a lifetime.  He's a truly underrated man.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Marmar on January 12, 2010, 01:53:32 AM
(http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/change-barack-hussein-obama-politics-demotivational-poster-democrat-economy.jpg)

lol
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Alumni on January 12, 2010, 12:28:46 PM
Best response yet to the Harry Reid racist comment saga

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/261283/january-11-2010/harry-reid-s-racist-comment
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on January 12, 2010, 01:34:47 PM
Best response yet to the Harry Reid racist comment saga

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/261283/january-11-2010/harry-reid-s-racist-comment

Oh, man. When he throws that chant over to Morgan Freeman,
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h145/Twista6002/i-lol-d.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on January 12, 2010, 01:52:22 PM
Best response yet to the Harry Reid racist comment saga

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/261283/january-11-2010/harry-reid-s-racist-comment

Oh, man. When he throws that chant over to Morgan Freeman,
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h145/Twista6002/i-lol-d.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on January 12, 2010, 10:43:52 PM
Best response yet to the Harry Reid racist comment saga

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/261283/january-11-2010/harry-reid-s-racist-comment

Oh, man. When he throws that chant over to Morgan Freeman,
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h145/Twista6002/i-lol-d.jpg)
same here
check out the interview with Freeman
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on February 16, 2010, 01:14:36 AM
comic book nerd alert
Quote
Marvel Comics' depiction of anti-tax protesters inspires anger, apology

Since 1941, Captain America has been one of the most popular comic book characters around. The fictional super-patriot fought Nazis during World War II, took on those who burned the American flag during the Vietnam era, and raked in hundreds of millions of dollars for Marvel Comics along the way.  Now, the appearance that he is taking on the Tea Party Movement in a storyline about investigating white supremacists has forced Marvel to apologize for the comic hero.

Issue 602 of the comic features Captain America investigating a right-wing anti-government militia group called "the Watchdogs". Hoping to infiltrate the group, Captain America and his African-American sidekick The Falcon observe an anti-tax protest from a rooftop.  The protestors depicted are all white and carry signs adorned with slogans almost identical to those seen today in Tea Party rallies like "tea bag libs before they tea bag you" and "stop the socialists."...

more @ http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100211/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1129 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100211/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1129)

(http://www.publiusforum.com/images/captAmer_teapartyfear.JPG)
larger (http://www.publiusforum.com/images/captAmer_teapartyfear.JPG)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on February 16, 2010, 09:25:18 AM
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h145/Twista6002/i-lol-d.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on February 16, 2010, 11:45:36 AM
Boo to Marvel for backing down.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on March 04, 2010, 07:07:23 PM
you really couldnt make this shit up.... 

from an rnc fundraising slideshow:

(http://images.politico.com/global/slideshow/100303_slide1.jpg)

(http://images.politico.com/global/slideshow/100303_slide2.jpg)

(http://images.politico.com/global/slideshow/100303_image3.jpg)

(http://images.politico.com/global/slideshow/100303_slide4.jpg)

(http://images.politico.com/global/slideshow/100303_slide5.jpg)

(http://images.politico.com/global/slideshow/100303_slide6.jpg)

(http://images.politico.com/global/slideshow/100303_slide7.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on March 05, 2010, 10:19:59 AM
Next time I hear a republitard carp about the Dems forcing socialism upon us I'm gonna ask if they expect to swipe a credit card before the fire department saves their house.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on March 10, 2010, 04:08:52 AM
massa on glenn beck last night was PAINFUL

all day long i was thinking to myself...

i hope he goes on there and comes clean and admits that its all a non-issue, no story, and he's the one at fault...

and thats pretty much exactly what he did.  in a painful, excruciating, embarrassing 60 minutes of making beck squirm and pout like the twit that he is. 

i dont know whats in store for massa, they say he has some serious allegations against him.  but thank frickin jebus that he didnt go on that show and tear the democrats a new one and give beck all the dirt and corruption that he was asking for.   
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 12, 2010, 04:34:02 AM
The Colbert Report: A Rare Behind-the-Scenes Look (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfiL2hpnmZ0#)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on March 19, 2010, 11:42:51 AM
Here's a pretty funny headline!

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on March 30, 2010, 02:19:58 AM
Orwell Rolls in his Grave

Orwell Rolls In His Grave (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1925114769515892401#docid=-1179175516550155628)


It's 1 hr 43 minutes long, but it's very worth the watch... Quite the eye opener for just how integrated Washington and the media really are...  :shakehead:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Kid in the Corner on June 16, 2010, 10:34:07 AM
::sigh:: 
Just look at clowns like kidinthecorner calling Obama "George Bush III".


John Stewart is a clown, too (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on June 16, 2010, 06:27:15 PM
::sigh:: 
Just look at clowns like kidinthecorner calling Obama "George Bush III".


John Stewart is a clown, too (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah)

whoa, the 9 month comeback!!!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Kid in the Corner on June 17, 2010, 12:50:37 PM
::sigh:: 
Just look at clowns like kidinthecorner calling Obama "George Bush III".


John Stewart is a clown, too (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah)

whoa, the 9 month comeback!!!
honestly, i thought it was going to take a lot longer than 9 months.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 05, 2010, 08:25:02 AM
(http://voices.washingtonpost.com/tomtoles/2010/08/04/c_08052010.gif)

Dude has a little bit of a point.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 06, 2010, 08:14:46 AM
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6j7afayUi1qze2z6o1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1281183262&Signature=jI6TG01bLax17KKiipilmQs6VLw%3D)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on August 06, 2010, 09:48:06 AM
What does god have against fags.com?

Oh wait, now I see.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on August 26, 2010, 01:29:58 PM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs228.snc4/38738_1516958933181_1510730068_31310914_3555052_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on August 28, 2010, 12:53:36 PM
Let's be clear though, the things that some people believe about Obama ARE REALLY BATSHIT CRAZY.
For some people, REALLY BATSHIT CRAZY is the baseline of reality in general

(http://cdn.crooksandliars.com/files/uploads/2010/07/political-pictures-michele-bachmann-crazy1_43760.jpg)

Last night I noticed that tv spots have started airing here for her re-election campaign.  I don't live or vote in her district, but I do support her opponent (http://tarrylclark.com/).
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: cyndi on September 04, 2010, 10:16:42 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4942898675_8e17a3033c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lorika/4942898675/)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on September 04, 2010, 11:08:44 PM
How Obama can't turn around and sue them for that shit is beyond my understanding of what it means to slander someone with lies.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on September 05, 2010, 05:35:30 PM
How Obama can't turn around and sue them for that shit is beyond my understanding of what it means to slander someone with lies.
why waste the time and money?  His energy is better served focusing on things that will impact us in a positive manner. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on September 05, 2010, 06:23:43 PM
How Obama can't turn around and sue them for that shit is beyond my understanding of what it means to slander someone with lies.
why waste the time and money?  His energy is better served focusing on things that will impact us in a positive manner.

It blows my mind.  The rightwing accuses him of being a communist/socialist AND an extremist muslim at the same time, and the left says "He's Jewish, right?  He should sue"
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on September 11, 2010, 03:40:01 PM
Why Are So Many Media Conservatives So Obsessed With Rape? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCY23hWWgRI#)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on September 11, 2010, 04:06:38 PM
^^^^^^
Wow

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on September 11, 2010, 06:57:11 PM

::tapes butthole shut::
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on September 12, 2010, 05:50:38 PM
We watched this documentary in my Environmental Ethics class this week. It's a documentary on the dolphin slaughterings in Japan. It's some serious stuff.

http://www.thecovemovie.com/ (http://www.thecovemovie.com/)

trailer
http://www.thecovemovie.com/WatchTheTrailer.htm (http://www.thecovemovie.com/WatchTheTrailer.htm)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 20, 2010, 01:11:37 PM
too funny to not post...

(http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/.a/6a00d83451c45669e201348778d0cf970c-550wi)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: qop24 on September 20, 2010, 01:16:25 PM
too funny to not post...

(http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/.a/6a00d83451c45669e201348778d0cf970c-550wi)

very nice
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on September 20, 2010, 01:22:55 PM
that bitch is fuckin crazy
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on September 22, 2010, 02:32:07 PM
(http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/100921/bagley.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on September 23, 2010, 12:54:27 PM
Sarah Palin's Top 10 Tea Party Mamma Grizzlies (from DC Douglas) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoXwzm8Tdmc#ws)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on September 23, 2010, 01:00:48 PM
Sarah Palin's Top 10 Tea Party Mamma Grizzlies (from DC Douglas) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoXwzm8Tdmc#ws)

Hilariously infuriating.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 23, 2010, 01:08:37 PM
Sarah Palin's Top 10 Tea Party Mamma Grizzlies (from DC Douglas) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoXwzm8Tdmc#ws)

Hilariously infuriating.

Quite, just sent this to a "friend" of mine, the only hardcore right wing christian female, can't wait to see how she responds!  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on October 05, 2010, 09:52:49 AM
CHRISTINE O'DONNELL AD: 'I'M NOT A WITCH' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKbJtebX9Hk#)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on October 05, 2010, 12:32:29 PM
She's a witch! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g#ws)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on October 05, 2010, 02:25:31 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: twatts on October 05, 2010, 03:00:10 PM
Famous quotes form GOPers
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on October 05, 2010, 03:25:26 PM
wow.

Donald Duck Meets Glenn Beck in Right Wing Radio Duck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfuwNU0jsk0#)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: qop24 on October 05, 2010, 04:20:38 PM
wow.

Donald Duck Meets Glenn Beck in Right Wing Radio Duck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfuwNU0jsk0#)

whoever put that together is brilliant

such a great way of showing the "politics of fear" and portraying Beck as the opportunist that he is
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on November 12, 2010, 01:53:31 AM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/beliefs.jpg)
Title: So much for De-Regulation!!
Post by: Poster Nutbag on November 19, 2010, 09:13:27 PM
So much for De-Regulation!! The Deregulation is only for the non-tax paying monopolies to lead to absolute fascism!! Not for us everyday Americans who only want to grow our own food and sell a little bit like we live in a capitalistic society...

Local farms could be illegal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEr9EeXe4I0#)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on November 19, 2010, 10:31:59 PM
this is potentially scary stuff that got tagged onto some necessary food safety issues. I did a bit of googling about this and fortunately, the Tester amendment was added to the bill which will exclude small farmers from complying with a lot of the BS bureaucracy and requirements of this bill. The bottom line is that Michael Pollan and Eric Schlosser are happy with the amendment. If they're happy, then so am I.
regardless, big corporations and their $ have too much power in this country. Unfortunately, that's an old story.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 22, 2010, 09:44:05 AM
AMAZING SPEECH BY WAR VETERAN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akm3nYN8aG8#ws)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on November 27, 2010, 11:29:37 AM
this is potentially scary stuff that got tagged onto some necessary food safety issues. I did a bit of googling about this and fortunately, the Tester amendment was added to the bill which will exclude small farmers from complying with a lot of the BS bureaucracy and requirements of this bill. The bottom line is that Michael Pollan and Eric Schlosser are happy with the amendment. If they're happy, then so am I.
regardless, big corporations and their $ have too much power in this country. Unfortunately, that's an old story.

There have been a lot of government regulations on local farming. Many corporations dont want to waste subsidizes with local organic farming that is not going to produce the amount of meat or crops that industrial farming would. There's a company that has literally bought the rights of a soybean and if any local farmers try to alter a soybean seed in their crops, the company sends out all these private investigators to shut down the farm (mostly in the midwest, obviously not with some personal garden). It's scary stuff where you cant even grow a crop your own way, to just sell to your local community. Companies wont waste time if your not pumpin out the most crops or meat possible.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on December 01, 2010, 03:20:10 PM
Police raid this organic food Co-Op with guns raised...

Food police target organic foods in California! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifvp3Fxi7Uo#)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on December 08, 2010, 02:21:30 AM
And here's Bernie Sanders, my all time favorite senator, from none other than the cow funk state, given it straight again....

Sen. Sanders Threatens To Filibuster Obama Tax Deal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAboE_ahSa4#)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on December 08, 2010, 02:38:27 AM
And this clip came first a while before the one above...

Sen Bernie Sanders Amazing Speech! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5OtB298fHY#)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on December 09, 2010, 12:19:42 PM
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/12/09/t1larg.westboro.gi.jpg)

These people are surely the scum of humanity.


Via:
Westboro Baptist Church says it will picket Elizabeth Edwards' funeral (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/09/westboro-baptist-church-says-it-will-picket-elizabeth-edwards-funeral/)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: StCarl on December 16, 2010, 03:40:34 PM
Got sent a link to this today - we stop for gas in this town whenever we go to my parents' house.  I'm not into giving this guy more play than he deserves, but you've got to know what's out there I spose. 
 :roll: :roll: :roll:

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/national/strip-club-owner-posts-%E2%80%9Cno-negroes-allowed%E2%80%9D-sign (http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/national/strip-club-owner-posts-%E2%80%9Cno-negroes-allowed%E2%80%9D-sign)
Quote
Strip club owner posts “No Negroes Allowed” sign

ABBOTSFORD, Wisconsin - A sign excluding black people from a future Abbotsford, Wisconsin business is enraging some people in the small town.
 
It's a sign generations of people may have never seen, yet Mark Prior says it's his right to discriminate.
 
"If I've got a problem with you it's going to be on the front of my store," says Mark Prior.

Prior posted his 'No Negros Allowed' sign after he says he had some problems with black people in the past and needed to make a policy against them.
 
Federal and State law says if the business is open to the public, prohibiting people based on race is illegal. If the man's proposed gentlemen's club was going to be a private club, then an African American historian says he could discriminate.

Legalities aside, his is a sign that many say is appalling.

"I'm going to stick to my guns because I think I have the right as a business owner to reject service to anyone. It's not all the black people there are just a few bad ones," Prior says of his problems in the past.

Prior wants to open a gentlemen's club in a building next to the Abbotsford city hall and library. He says he moved his sign inside after someone with the city asked him to remove it.
 
"Our mistake is sometimes we look for logic in something that is just plain stupid," says Dr. Selika Ducksworth-Lawton, an African American historian at the University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire.
 
Ducksworth-Lawton says she feels Prior is out to get attention.
 
She says the second he opens his business, he'll be in violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

'No Negro's Allowed' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QmJzetV8Fk#)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on December 16, 2010, 03:48:51 PM
lol @ a strip club owner imposing moral authority


Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on December 17, 2010, 09:13:45 AM
Ah, so that's what Mark Prior's been up to since he flamed out with the Cubbies.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on January 04, 2011, 09:46:41 AM
Quantitative Easing Explained (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUY16CkS-k#)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Poster Nutbag on January 04, 2011, 08:37:29 PM
^^^That is funny!! very funny...  :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on January 04, 2011, 09:40:17 PM
its weird to hear sophist & mcgrupp talk about the economy
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: guyforget on January 05, 2011, 03:51:26 AM
^^^That is funny!! very funny...  :clap:


it is funny.  until you realize that its not funny at all.  until you realize that there is nothing that you can do about it but throw your hands (or dollar bills) in the air laugh, and it becomes funny again. 


its weird to hear sophist & mcgrupp talk about the economy


this, this was funny.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on January 05, 2011, 12:52:23 PM

::tapes butthole shut::

Is this what you're referring to, Keller?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on January 05, 2011, 06:58:23 PM

::tapes butthole shut::

Is this what you're referring to, Keller?

No, I think that has to do with glowsticks
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on January 05, 2011, 09:32:43 PM
Quantitative easing is an insane gamble.

IMO, the present state of the American economy is due in large part to decades of personal spending which has been disproportionate with real incomes, thanks in large part to credit cards and lax lending regulations. The economy has slowed because these said individuals have finally begun, through fear, to pay down their debt as well as save. While this bodes well for the future, it will naturally suppress the economy in the present. Unfortunately, this is all happening at a time when many countries' slowly educating populations, those that used to produce little plastic trinkets, come on line to offer complex labor at lower wages than that which can be offered in the west. It also goes without saying, that these countries are not over extended with military flights of fancy or tremendously burdened by defense expenditures. Batten down the hatches and welcome the perfect storm.     
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on January 11, 2011, 09:15:29 AM
(http://voices.washingtonpost.com/tomtoles/2010/12/31/c_01032011.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on January 26, 2011, 11:54:51 AM
Quantitative easing is an insane gamble.

IMO, the present state of the American economy is due in large part to decades of personal spending which has been disproportionate with real incomes, thanks in large part to credit cards and lax lending regulations. The economy has slowed because these said individuals have finally begun, through fear, to pay down their debt as well as save. While this bodes well for the future, it will naturally suppress the economy in the present. Unfortunately, this is all happening at a time when many countries' slowly educating populations, those that used to produce little plastic trinkets, come on line to offer complex labor at lower wages than that which can be offered in the west. It also goes without saying, that these countries are not over extended with military flights of fancy or tremendously burdened by defense expenditures. Batten down the hatches and welcome the perfect storm.     

Solid assessment there, as usual, from our Canadian counterpart.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on January 28, 2011, 03:01:44 PM
Perhaps the thing that impresses me most about the Daily Show is how great they are at using pure logic, as opposed to bluster and hyperbole, to such ruthless and withering effect. To wit:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-january-27-2011/bill-o-reilly-defends-his-nazi-analogies (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-january-27-2011/bill-o-reilly-defends-his-nazi-analogies)

(Sorry, not sure this one's embeddable.)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on February 04, 2011, 09:36:41 PM
two goodies...

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs907.ash1/181524_495795380987_617025987_6583437_4502006_n.jpg)

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs893.ash1/180102_1836533116854_1346256389_2067053_1282626_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on February 08, 2011, 07:48:43 AM
Politics AND sports!

Bill Maher Football vs. Baseball (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Paf9h3F25s#ws)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on February 11, 2011, 02:39:40 PM
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182039_10150401772855142_907285141_17237904_3506921_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on February 11, 2011, 02:53:19 PM
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182039_10150401772855142_907285141_17237904_3506921_n.jpg)

LULz
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on March 08, 2011, 07:42:47 AM
Cost of at-risk programs vs. cost of tax breaks for rish assholes vs. cost of a war...
See here for an explanation of the first two columns: http://goo.gl/VRYVT
(click to enbiggen)
(http://i.imgur.com/KZFQa.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/KZFQa.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on March 08, 2011, 10:39:08 AM
^^^ Broken down like that, its just so disappointing.... :shakehead:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on March 08, 2011, 11:11:56 AM
wow.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: qop24 on March 08, 2011, 11:16:56 AM
guys you are missing the point... war is good and totally worth it!

the real problem is spending money on OUR country for "services" and "helping" our own "people"
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 08, 2011, 11:49:28 AM
guys you are missing the point... war is good and totally worth it!

the real problem is spending money on OUR country for "services" and "helping" our own "people"

The issue isn't as black and white as this, however much I agree with the sentiment.

That 1.162 Trillion dollars is paid to American companies which significantly positively influences our economy.  This money is what is used to pay the American soldiers and the Contractors that make equipment for those soldiers.  Those soldiers then go on to purchase other goods and services that helps fuel our consumption based economy.

Take away that money, without providing other avenues of employment, and you greatly impact our economy in a negative fashion.

I do however agree with the sentiment you express, however it's not as easily rectified as you might want it to be.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on March 08, 2011, 12:08:09 PM
guys you are missing the point... war is good and totally worth it!

the real problem is spending money on OUR country for "services" and "helping" our own "people"

The issue isn't as black and white as this, however much I agree with the sentiment.

That 1.162 Trillion dollars is paid to American companies which significantly positively influences our economy.  This money is what is used to pay the American soldiers and the Contractors that make equipment for those soldiers.  Those soldiers then go on to purchase other goods and services that helps fuel our consumption based economy.

Take away that money, without providing other avenues of employment, and you greatly impact our economy in a negative fashion.

I do however agree with the sentiment you express, however it's not as easily rectified as you might want it to be.

That seems like a valid argument.  I suppose column 2 needs to go, then... 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on March 08, 2011, 12:08:52 PM
now I get it.
The GOP claims tax cuts to millionaires and corporations create jobs.
There is a tax break for off shore corporations. They set up shop in another country (on our dime), create factories, and hire people.
the tax cuts DO result in job creation


in some other country.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: qop24 on March 08, 2011, 12:35:52 PM
guys you are missing the point... war is good and totally worth it!

the real problem is spending money on OUR country for "services" and "helping" our own "people"

The issue isn't as black and white as this, however much I agree with the sentiment.

That 1.162 Trillion dollars is paid to American companies which significantly positively influences our economy.  This money is what is used to pay the American soldiers and the Contractors that make equipment for those soldiers.  Those soldiers then go on to purchase other goods and services that helps fuel our consumption based economy.

Take away that money, without providing other avenues of employment, and you greatly impact our economy in a negative fashion.

I do however agree with the sentiment you express, however it's not as easily rectified as you might want it to be.

I get what you are saying and agree on some level, but my issue is that these jobs don't have to be focused on war. We have so many problems here at home that the government could open offices for (or even privatize it, whatever), or more money could go to investments in things like NASA (I understand that they also contribute to some defence research, etc.) that could eventually do more for humanity than war ever could.

These jobs don't have to be lost entirely - they can be directed more at making this country a better place, rather than ruining a handful of them.



I guess we had forgotten this a while ago -

Quote from: Dwight D. Eisenhower
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 08, 2011, 12:52:07 PM
guys you are missing the point... war is good and totally worth it!

the real problem is spending money on OUR country for "services" and "helping" our own "people"

The issue isn't as black and white as this, however much I agree with the sentiment.

That 1.162 Trillion dollars is paid to American companies which significantly positively influences our economy.  This money is what is used to pay the American soldiers and the Contractors that make equipment for those soldiers.  Those soldiers then go on to purchase other goods and services that helps fuel our consumption based economy.

Take away that money, without providing other avenues of employment, and you greatly impact our economy in a negative fashion.

I do however agree with the sentiment you express, however it's not as easily rectified as you might want it to be.

I get what you are saying and agree on some level, but my issue is that these jobs don't have to be focused on war. We have so many problems here at home that the government could open offices for (or even privatize it, whatever), or more money could go to investments in things like NASA (I understand that they also contribute to some defence research, etc.) that could eventually do more for humanity than war ever could.

These jobs don't have to be lost entirely - they can be directed more at making this country a better place, rather than ruining a handful of them.



I guess we had forgotten this a while ago -

Quote from: Dwight D. Eisenhower
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex.

I completely agree, and it is rather unfortunate that we can't convince the majority of taxpayers to make major expenditures on awesome shit without the necessity of that awesome shit to be used to blow up other people.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: qop24 on March 08, 2011, 01:11:23 PM
^ haha yep, sad but true
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on March 09, 2011, 08:55:05 AM
Helping people is just code for evil socialism.


In all seriousness, I've been meditating on this small-government vs social democracy debate that we have going on now her in dc and on the cable news. what has become painfully clear to me is that the small-government, pull yourself up from your bootstraps, I got mine-get your own, mentality is just a broad attempt at institutional selfishness.

How ironic that most of the politicians holding down the platform of the selfish also claim to be christians. Bitches need to read the fucking book, I guess.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: qop24 on March 09, 2011, 09:07:38 AM
Helping people is just code for evil socialism.


In all seriousness, I've been meditating on this small-government vs social democracy debate that we have going on now her in dc and on the cable news. what has become painfully clear to me is that the small-government, pull yourself up from your bootstraps, I got mine-get your own, mentality is just a broad attempt at institutional selfishness.

How ironic that most of the politicians holding down the platform of the selfish also claim to be christians. Bitches need to read the fucking book, I guess.

Pretty much my exact sentiment - such an absurdly hypocritical, delusional bunch
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on March 09, 2011, 11:13:29 AM
Helping people is just code for evil socialism.


In all seriousness, I've been meditating on this small-government vs social democracy debate that we have going on now her in dc and on the cable news. what has become painfully clear to me is that the small-government, pull yourself up from your bootstraps, I got mine-get your own, mentality is just a broad attempt at institutional selfishness.

How ironic that most of the politicians holding down the platform of the selfish also claim to be christians. Bitches need to read the fucking book, I guess.

THAT right there has been my biggest argument with some of my right wing hard core christian "friends". They just don't see the hypocrisy in it at all.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 09, 2011, 12:11:22 PM
The sad part about many people who fancy themselves "Christians" is that if Christ were to actually show back up today and behave as he did in the Biblical times, most of them would throw him right back up on the cross, without any shame or sense of irony.

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on March 09, 2011, 12:41:58 PM
The sad part about many people who fancy themselves "Christians" is that if Christ were to actually show back up today and behave as he did in the Biblical times, most of them would throw him right back up on the cross, without any shame or sense of irony.

sad but true
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on March 23, 2011, 07:52:32 AM
Not exactly political:
(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110323.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: phil on March 23, 2011, 10:04:13 AM
(http://www.superpoop.com/013009/presidential-snowball.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on March 23, 2011, 11:18:43 AM
Not exactly political:
(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110323.gif)

Yeah, I've thought of Truth as a curved wall. And you can stand on one side and feel it in front of you, and say it's concave, and someone on the other side, will feel it and say it's convex, and neither of you are wrong, just approaching the same thing from two different sides.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on April 06, 2011, 05:35:41 PM
An Extraordinarily Unfair Budget
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfHL3mxnWBk&feature=channel_video_title

Bernie is the man!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on April 07, 2011, 06:11:05 PM
Paul LePage's Dream
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i05PUA-mlcY&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on April 07, 2011, 07:31:46 PM
An Extraordinarily Unfair Budget
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfHL3mxnWBk&feature=channel_video_title

Bernie is the man!

Yes, he is.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on April 08, 2011, 12:51:02 PM
An Extraordinarily Unfair Budget
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfHL3mxnWBk&feature=channel_video_title

Bernie is the man!

Yes, he is.

thanks for posting this.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on April 18, 2011, 09:11:48 PM
(http://front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Bernie-Sanders-Corporate-Tax-4001.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on June 15, 2011, 12:21:23 PM
(http://l.yimg.com/a/i/ww/news/2011/02/23/howrich2.jpg)

(http://l.yimg.com/a/i/ww/news/2011/02/23/winners2.jpg)

(http://l.yimg.com/a/i/ww/news/2011/02/23/balance2.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 18, 2011, 09:10:54 PM
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lptejb99vy1qbecb8o1_500.png)

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lptejb99vy1qbecb8o2_500.png)

If they're really against masturbation, they not should put her on the tv.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 18, 2011, 10:20:10 PM
Fuckin' Louie rules. The bag of dicks scene from that episode was classic as well.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on August 19, 2011, 09:59:54 AM
my mother is the worst forwarder ever... but every now and then she sends a winner!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 22, 2011, 02:45:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7wdKg8rYL0&hd=1
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on September 01, 2011, 04:11:21 PM
NSFW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-McpNtHet3w&feature=share
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 01, 2011, 05:32:48 PM
What's your credit score?

Dude gets it.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 01, 2011, 10:41:50 PM
What up, Norfolk State?!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 02, 2011, 09:43:46 AM
Norfolk in da house!  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

What's your credit score?

Dude gets it.

Yup.  :clap: As does most of America at this point.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: UncleEbinezer on September 02, 2011, 02:01:48 PM
Norfolk in da house!  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

What's your credit score?

Dude gets it.

Yup.  :clap: As does most of America at this point.

 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

I always enjoy a refreshing no bullshit way of saying it. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 13, 2011, 11:13:04 AM
don't know if it'll show up, but you can follow the link if it doesn't...funny stuff

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1856298

(http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/GOPflowchart.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on September 13, 2011, 01:19:48 PM
 :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 13, 2011, 04:24:34 PM
Ron Paul wins the flowchart argument.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 21, 2011, 03:37:05 PM
(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Warren-LARGE.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on September 21, 2011, 09:04:59 PM
Class warfare!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 22, 2011, 11:46:05 AM
Class warfare!

Agreed. I don't subscribe to this sort of nonsense.  ME ME ME!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 22, 2011, 04:48:27 PM
When she says "the rest of us", does she mean the people in the country who make $350,000 for teaching one class 2 days a week at Haaaaaarvard? Because she can't possibly mean the 47% of people who paid no income tax in 2009, right?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 22, 2011, 05:02:26 PM
When she says "the rest of us", does she mean the people in the country who make $350,000 for teaching one class 2 days a week at Haaaaaarvard? Because she can't possibly mean the 47% of people who paid no income tax in 2009, right?

just to clarify, you mean federal income tax when you throw that # around, right?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on September 22, 2011, 05:03:11 PM
When she says "the rest of us", does she mean the people in the country who make $350,000 for teaching one class 2 days a week at Haaaaaarvard? Because she can't possibly mean the 47% of people who paid no income tax in 2009, right?

And why is that?  Could it be that 47% of US households don't make dick?

Perhaps that's the real problem.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 22, 2011, 05:07:40 PM
When she says "the rest of us", does she mean the people in the country who make $350,000 for teaching one class 2 days a week at Haaaaaarvard? Because she can't possibly mean the 47% of people who paid no income tax in 2009, right?

And why is that?  Could it be that 47% of US households don't make dick?

Perhaps that's the real problem.

Wrong again Hicks, they have refrigerators. And tv's. Possibly even phones. Hell, they might even be working two jobs! Like one wasn't enough! Assholes. They need to trade that shit in at the pawn shop and pay the fuck up! I'm sick of these lazy bastards not paying their fair share.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on September 22, 2011, 05:10:45 PM
When she says "the rest of us", does she mean the people in the country who make $350,000 for teaching one class 2 days a week at Haaaaaarvard? Because she can't possibly mean the 47% of people who paid no income tax in 2009, right?

And why is that?  Could it be that 47% of US households don't make dick?

Perhaps that's the real problem.

Wrong again Hicks, they have refrigerators. And tv's. Possibly even phones. Hell, they might even be working two jobs! Like one wasn't enough! Assholes. They need to trade that shit in at the pawn shop and pay the fuck up! I'm sick of these lazy bastards not paying their fair share.

Not to mention they knew exactly how little those jobs paid when they took them, they have only themselves to blame.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 22, 2011, 05:11:51 PM
When she says "the rest of us", does she mean the people in the country who make $350,000 for teaching one class 2 days a week at Haaaaaarvard? Because she can't possibly mean the 47% of people who paid no income tax in 2009, right?

just to clarify, you mean federal income tax when you throw that # around, right?

Duly noted

When she says "the rest of us", does she mean the people in the country who make $350,000 for teaching one class 2 days a week at Haaaaaarvard? Because she can't possibly mean the 47% of people who paid no income tax in 2009, right?

And why is that?  Could it be that 47% of US households don't make dick?

Perhaps that's the real problem.

Fair, but a woman in the highest of brackets saying "the rest of us" doesn't strike you as the least bit hypocritical?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on September 22, 2011, 05:15:07 PM
When she says "the rest of us", does she mean the people in the country who make $350,000 for teaching one class 2 days a week at Haaaaaarvard? Because she can't possibly mean the 47% of people who paid no income tax in 2009, right?

just to clarify, you mean federal income tax when you throw that # around, right?

Duly noted

When she says "the rest of us", does she mean the people in the country who make $350,000 for teaching one class 2 days a week at Haaaaaarvard? Because she can't possibly mean the 47% of people who paid no income tax in 2009, right?

And why is that?  Could it be that 47% of US households don't make dick?

Perhaps that's the real problem.

Fair, but a woman in the highest of brackets saying "the rest of us" doesn't strike you as the least bit hypocritical?

If said woman is acting as an advocate for "us" working stiffs out in the trenches, then no, not in the slightest.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 22, 2011, 05:22:30 PM
When she says "the rest of us", does she mean the people in the country who make $350,000 for teaching one class 2 days a week at Haaaaaarvard? Because she can't possibly mean the 47% of people who paid no income tax in 2009, right?

just to clarify, you mean federal income tax when you throw that # around, right?

Duly noted

When she says "the rest of us", does she mean the people in the country who make $350,000 for teaching one class 2 days a week at Haaaaaarvard? Because she can't possibly mean the 47% of people who paid no income tax in 2009, right?

And why is that?  Could it be that 47% of US households don't make dick?

Perhaps that's the real problem.

Fair, but a woman in the highest of brackets saying "the rest of us" doesn't strike you as the least bit hypocritical?

If said woman is acting as an advocate for "us" working stiffs out in the trenches, then no, not in the slightest.

Maybe she should have said "you people" then. (I kid, I kid)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 22, 2011, 05:43:36 PM
When she says "the rest of us", does she mean the people in the country who make $350,000 for teaching one class 2 days a week at Haaaaaarvard? Because she can't possibly mean the 47% of people who paid no income tax in 2009, right?

just to clarify, you mean federal income tax when you throw that # around, right?

Duly noted

When she says "the rest of us", does she mean the people in the country who make $350,000 for teaching one class 2 days a week at Haaaaaarvard? Because she can't possibly mean the 47% of people who paid no income tax in 2009, right?

And why is that?  Could it be that 47% of US households don't make dick?

Perhaps that's the real problem.

Fair, but a woman in the highest of brackets saying "the rest of us" doesn't strike you as the least bit hypocritical?

How many politicians do you know not in said higher brackets?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on September 22, 2011, 05:44:14 PM
Moneybrawl - The Extinction of Subway, Bill O'Reilly & The Super Rich
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-september-21-2011/moneybrawl---the-extinction-of-subway--bill-o-reilly---the-super-rich
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 28, 2011, 04:59:22 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/58083_178165258875660_108038612554992_589095_5719729_n.jpg?dl=1)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on October 04, 2011, 03:25:02 PM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/321503_2371467173827_1464947899_32598895_1019517704_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on October 07, 2011, 01:09:27 AM
Not incredibly edgy or topical, but I thought it should probably go here instead of the random pic blowout. 

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/national_language.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on October 07, 2011, 08:35:04 AM
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/291876_284636044897897_100000545113922_1081460_638610906_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 20, 2011, 07:55:10 AM
So THAT'S the definition of marriage!

/me places craig's list ad for concubine
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on October 21, 2011, 12:30:23 PM
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/f9nyco05-um-ww_mfbuo9q.gif)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/150149/Record-High-Americans-Favor-Legalizing-Marijuana.aspx (http://www.gallup.com/poll/150149/Record-High-Americans-Favor-Legalizing-Marijuana.aspx)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 21, 2011, 12:41:06 PM
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/f9nyco05-um-ww_mfbuo9q.gif)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/150149/Record-High-Americans-Favor-Legalizing-Marijuana.aspx (http://www.gallup.com/poll/150149/Record-High-Americans-Favor-Legalizing-Marijuana.aspx)

Could also have been written as such:

Record! High Americans favor Legalizing Marijuana.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on October 21, 2011, 01:47:10 PM
(http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/f9nyco05-um-ww_mfbuo9q.gif)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/150149/Record-High-Americans-Favor-Legalizing-Marijuana.aspx (http://www.gallup.com/poll/150149/Record-High-Americans-Favor-Legalizing-Marijuana.aspx)

Could also have been written as such:

Record! High Americans favor Legalizing Marijuana.

 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 31, 2011, 02:27:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S880UldxB1o
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on November 08, 2011, 11:20:34 AM
Congress, lol

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-3-2011/men-not-at-work?xrs=share_copy (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-3-2011/men-not-at-work?xrs=share_copy)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on November 08, 2011, 12:47:36 PM
Congress, lol

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-3-2011/men-not-at-work?xrs=share_copy (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-3-2011/men-not-at-work?xrs=share_copy)

Oh so you're just doing it to be dicks? I see.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 14, 2011, 10:06:16 PM
It's probably a moot point since his 15 mins are clearly over, but if you liked "Oh my god, Rick Perry can't remember the Dept. of Energy (even though he's sponsored by the oil & gas industry)" you'll love Herman Cain's "Aww shit, which one's Libya again?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW_nDFKAmCo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 18, 2011, 03:45:11 PM
Smartest things I've ever heard come from Ron Paul's mouth:

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/0a03ebddbb/ron-paul-a-bad-lip-reading-soundbite
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on November 18, 2011, 04:30:04 PM
 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on November 18, 2011, 07:34:06 PM
Holy shit, that's hilarious! 

There's too many good ones in there to start quoting my favorites, but I seriously was busting up at the "cherry soda" part!   :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on November 18, 2011, 08:41:07 PM
:ring ring:  free bananas!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 21, 2011, 01:41:26 PM
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv02knWVCL1r6m1z5o1_500.jpg)

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv02mmCxvR1r6m1z5o1_500.jpg)

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv019hswvX1r6m1z5o1_400.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luzv07ngav1r6m1z5o1_500.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luzuboXpAT1r6m1z5o1_500.jpg)

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luzrw0znv71r6m1z5o1_500.jpg)

http://peppersprayingcop.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on November 21, 2011, 06:55:49 PM
  :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on November 21, 2011, 07:50:04 PM
(http://www.imgjoe.com/x/pepperpaug.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 21, 2011, 11:23:23 PM
(http://www.imgjoe.com/x/pepperpaug.jpg)

That happened. The smell knocked down the camera man, though. So, unfortunately we have no pics of Lazer-Eyes' retaliation. That riot gear was no match!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 22, 2011, 02:56:13 PM
BWAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

http://gawker.com/5861908/michele-bachmanns-late-night-intro-music-lyin-ass-bitch (http://gawker.com/5861908/michele-bachmanns-late-night-intro-music-lyin-ass-bitch)

Quote
Michele Bachmann’s Late Night Intro Music: ‘Lyin’ Ass Bitch’

As the house band for dancing spider monkey Jimmy Fallon, The Roots are sometimes forced to express themselves via the intro music that they choose to play when various celebrities walk out onto Fallon's stage.

Last night, Michele Bachmann came on the show. The intro song The Roots played for her: "Lyin Ass Bitch," by Fishbone. Clip above.

Keep up the good work, fellas.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: natronzero on November 22, 2011, 03:56:13 PM
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv1c6ojjeM1qgabreo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on November 22, 2011, 04:51:08 PM
BWAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

http://gawker.com/5861908/michele-bachmanns-late-night-intro-music-lyin-ass-bitch (http://gawker.com/5861908/michele-bachmanns-late-night-intro-music-lyin-ass-bitch)

Quote
Michele Bachmann’s Late Night Intro Music: ‘Lyin’ Ass Bitch’

As the house band for dancing spider monkey Jimmy Fallon, The Roots are sometimes forced to express themselves via the intro music that they choose to play when various celebrities walk out onto Fallon's stage.

Last night, Michele Bachmann came on the show. The intro song The Roots played for her: "Lyin Ass Bitch," by Fishbone. Clip above.

Keep up the good work, fellas.
:clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on November 22, 2011, 05:55:51 PM
BWAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

http://gawker.com/5861908/michele-bachmanns-late-night-intro-music-lyin-ass-bitch (http://gawker.com/5861908/michele-bachmanns-late-night-intro-music-lyin-ass-bitch)

Quote
Michele Bachmann’s Late Night Intro Music: ‘Lyin’ Ass Bitch’

As the house band for dancing spider monkey Jimmy Fallon, The Roots are sometimes forced to express themselves via the intro music that they choose to play when various celebrities walk out onto Fallon's stage.

Last night, Michele Bachmann came on the show. The intro song The Roots played for her: "Lyin Ass Bitch," by Fishbone. Clip above.

Keep up the good work, fellas.
:clap:

That's awesome.  I wonder if Jimmy knew.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on November 22, 2011, 06:04:44 PM
BWAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

http://gawker.com/5861908/michele-bachmanns-late-night-intro-music-lyin-ass-bitch (http://gawker.com/5861908/michele-bachmanns-late-night-intro-music-lyin-ass-bitch)

Quote
Michele Bachmann’s Late Night Intro Music: ‘Lyin’ Ass Bitch’

As the house band for dancing spider monkey Jimmy Fallon, The Roots are sometimes forced to express themselves via the intro music that they choose to play when various celebrities walk out onto Fallon's stage.

Last night, Michele Bachmann came on the show. The intro song The Roots played for her: "Lyin Ass Bitch," by Fishbone. Clip above.

Keep up the good work, fellas.
:clap:

That's awesome.  I wonder if Jimmy knew.

Seems like a don't ask don't tell policy would be best in this situation.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on November 22, 2011, 06:22:18 PM
BWAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

http://gawker.com/5861908/michele-bachmanns-late-night-intro-music-lyin-ass-bitch (http://gawker.com/5861908/michele-bachmanns-late-night-intro-music-lyin-ass-bitch)

Quote
Michele Bachmann’s Late Night Intro Music: ‘Lyin’ Ass Bitch’

As the house band for dancing spider monkey Jimmy Fallon, The Roots are sometimes forced to express themselves via the intro music that they choose to play when various celebrities walk out onto Fallon's stage.

Last night, Michele Bachmann came on the show. The intro song The Roots played for her: "Lyin Ass Bitch," by Fishbone. Clip above.

Keep up the good work, fellas.
:clap:

That's awesome.  I wonder if Jimmy knew.

Seems like a don't ask don't tell policy would be best in this situation.
Plausible deniability

"I thought it was some early RHCP that I didn't recognize!"
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on November 26, 2011, 12:04:20 PM
(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1665/30864727692813981051440.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 28, 2011, 08:39:03 AM
Yep.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on November 28, 2011, 11:00:54 AM
Yep.

Ha! For real.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on December 05, 2011, 05:55:55 AM
(http://images2.dailykos.com/i/user/312562/Kos-26.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on December 05, 2011, 07:30:50 AM
(http://visualnews.columnfivemedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Fro_Propaganda_One_Percent_2.jpg) (http://visualnews.columnfivemedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Fro_Propaganda_One_Percent_2.jpg)

more: http://www.visualnews.com/2011/10/24/the-propaganda-posters-of-the-1/

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on December 05, 2011, 12:03:20 PM
^^^ The other posters are good too.

Also,
(http://images2.dailykos.com/i/user/312562/Kos-26.jpg)

Fuck the Republicans.



(I know, we're supposed to keep it civil, but the hypocrisy is over whelming, sorry.)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on December 09, 2011, 09:13:42 AM
(http://reason.com/assets/mc/mriggs/2011_12/TheDonald.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on December 18, 2011, 03:00:53 PM
(http://threadbombing.com/data/media/48/trickle_down.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on December 19, 2011, 10:37:53 AM
^^^  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard That IS pretty funny!

Anyhow, answer a few questions here and figure out who your ideal candidate is.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/fullpage?id=15177995

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on December 19, 2011, 04:03:36 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GLnkmIDY5ek/TujrNoMXeUI/AAAAAAAARMg/ibSkVjd3ZnE/s1600/gaycourt.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on December 19, 2011, 04:18:38 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GLnkmIDY5ek/TujrNoMXeUI/AAAAAAAARMg/ibSkVjd3ZnE/s1600/gaycourt.jpg)

 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

 :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on December 20, 2011, 08:15:51 PM
 :clap: :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
I got a good laugh outta the last page of cartoons
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on January 12, 2012, 07:25:59 AM
Romney's plan to create jobs!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/395224_10150492804990326_31709165325_8951574_833621054_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on January 12, 2012, 07:50:31 AM
(http://melaniekillingervowell.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/romney-airport-shoe-shine.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on January 12, 2012, 09:17:41 AM
 :-D
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on January 16, 2012, 08:37:25 PM
Colbert's Super PAC (which is now being run by Jon Stewart as Colbert explores a presidential run) is up with an ad against Romney in SC. The press release is pretty hilarious too (http://charleston.thedigitel.com/politics/colbert-super-pac-mitt-ripper-debuts-south-carolin-37338-0116).

http://youtu.be/Ay0UAeUmrWQ
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on January 18, 2012, 11:37:22 PM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/467681/original.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on January 27, 2012, 02:08:22 PM
I love this guy... I predict he will be our president some day. I hope it happens! Mayor of Newark is not an easy job.

http://youtu.be/Y4Z7tl7Vy8U (http://youtu.be/Y4Z7tl7Vy8U)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on January 27, 2012, 03:34:22 PM
powerful vid

I agree that he (or someone like him) should be Prez someday.

Whether someone so upfront and to the point about unpopular / controversial topics will be is another story
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on February 07, 2012, 11:00:47 PM
The times I've seen him on TV, Cory Booker has always impressed me as a straight shooter. But I've wondered whether, as he climbs the political ladder (if that's his goal), whether he'd be able to stay just as real even as the pressure increases and the spotlight brightens. You'll find people (myself included) who'll say that even someone as real and seemingly transcendent as Barack Obama was during his primary ended up caving in, to a degree, to the cynicism of mainstream national politics and its same old ways.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on February 08, 2012, 10:07:22 AM
(http://www.imgjoe.com/x/426365379002.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on February 09, 2012, 05:29:06 PM
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423570_383463781670265_269358643080780_1759613_1454093701_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: jstepan on February 14, 2012, 02:58:08 AM
http://youtu.be/72o8e1Eyls4
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on February 14, 2012, 09:50:17 AM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lysrbvwSrJ1qmzxy4o1_400.gif)

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web04/2012/2/4/14/enhanced-buzz-wide-28168-1328384950-56.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on February 21, 2012, 10:57:30 AM
(http://jonathanschmock.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/regulate-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on February 23, 2012, 09:49:32 AM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-tdh_12GwuCs/T0ZRVIanJpI/AAAAAAAACb0/ikStWTm-j9E/s512/photo.JPG)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on February 23, 2012, 01:20:46 PM
^^ You cut off the best part

http://flic.kr/p/bxG2Hr
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on February 24, 2012, 09:11:38 AM
^^ You cut off the best part

http://flic.kr/p/bxG2Hr

At first I thought you were pointing out the Ron Paul posters and I was gonna be all  :roll:  but then I was all  :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on February 28, 2012, 10:20:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjZOO3Ie3-U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjZOO3Ie3-U)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on February 29, 2012, 10:06:32 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/xDR0Y.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on March 01, 2012, 11:46:07 PM
Wow -- FN actually has a poll up that asks readers if it'd be OK to threaten Iran if it'd lower gas prices. To their audience's credit, at least, it was the least popular response...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ISHcAIBas4M/T1BPiEFQSrI/AAAAAAAACcc/07SNaiVTJks/s383/Screen%2520shot%25202012-03-01%2520at%252011.41.13%2520PM.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on March 02, 2012, 08:52:32 AM
P1. A functional democracy depends--completely--on a well-informed citizenry.

P2. Fox News viewers are MORE IGNORANT than those who consume no news reporting at all.

______________________
C. Fox News is anti-democratic.









(Anyone spot the flaw in my logic?)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 02, 2012, 09:12:47 AM
P1. A functional democracy depends--completely--on a well-informed citizenry.

P2. Fox News viewers are MORE IGNORANT than those who consume no news reporting at all.

______________________
C. Fox News is anti-democratic.









(Anyone spot the flaw in my logic?)

If Fox News didn't exist, would their viewers be any more informed? Correlation vs. causation.

On the other hand, democracy would be fundamentally flawed if speech was limited to media outlets that disseminated the "official" news.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on March 02, 2012, 09:20:55 AM
Deliberately obfuscating the truth so as to support an agenda is not what I'd call the democracy saving counter to providing "official" news.

Unless by "official" news you mean Facts.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on March 02, 2012, 09:56:00 AM
The reporting of any phenomena necessitates obfuscation and agenda.  To report is to filter information into a coherent narrative, a narrative that must be at least passable to the person/group of people who finance the distribution of said report. 


The real problem is that the more an individual agrees with the agenda being put forth in a report, the less likely they are to question which elements of the report are supported by fact or reasonable deduction. 


Fox News knows this, as does the New York Times, The Huffington Post, The Wall Street Journal, and on and on and on.       
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 02, 2012, 09:59:06 AM
Deliberately obfuscating the truth so as to support an agenda is not what I'd call the democracy saving counter to providing "official" news.

Unless by "official" news you mean Facts.

RJ, I know you're smart enough to realize that Fox News isn't the only media outlet pushing an agenda, right?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on March 02, 2012, 10:22:25 AM
Deliberately obfuscating the truth so as to support an agenda is not what I'd call the democracy saving counter to providing "official" news.

Unless by "official" news you mean Facts.

RJ, I know you're smart enough to realize that Fox News isn't the only media outlet pushing an agenda, right?

I won't speak for RJ, but I'll tell you I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt, assuming you're smart enough to know they're the worst offender by several orders of magnitude. But as a result of your consistent posture in their defense I'm having my doubts.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on March 02, 2012, 10:24:16 AM
The reporting of any phenomena necessitates obfuscation and agenda.  To report is to filter information into a coherent narrative, a narrative that must be at least passable to the person/group of people who finance the distribution of said report. 


The real problem is that the more an individual agrees with the agenda being put forth in a report, the less likely they are to question which elements of the report are supported by fact or reasonable deduction. 


Fox News knows this, as does the New York Times, The Huffington Post, The Wall Street Journal, and on and on and on.     

I agree in theory, but real-world politics is a long, long way from the philosophical purity of the first sentence of your post.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 02, 2012, 10:31:21 AM
Deliberately obfuscating the truth so as to support an agenda is not what I'd call the democracy saving counter to providing "official" news.

Unless by "official" news you mean Facts.

RJ, I know you're smart enough to realize that Fox News isn't the only media outlet pushing an agenda, right?

I won't speak for RJ, but I'll tell you I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt, assuming you're smart enough to know they're the worst offender by several orders of magnitude. But as a result of your consistent posture in their defense I'm having my doubts.

I'm not defending Fox News, I'm just not comfortable making that value judgment that they are several magnitudes worse than others. The stuff I see from Krugman and Maddow and Jonathan Chait are just as deliberately misleading, IMO.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on March 02, 2012, 10:32:40 AM
Deliberately obfuscating the truth so as to support an agenda is not what I'd call the democracy saving counter to providing "official" news.

Unless by "official" news you mean Facts.

RJ, I know you're smart enough to realize that Fox News isn't the only media outlet pushing an agenda, right?

I won't speak for RJ, but I'll tell you I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt, assuming you're smart enough to know they're the worst offender by several orders of magnitude. But as a result of your consistent posture in their defense I'm having my doubts.
Deliberately obfuscating the truth so as to support an agenda is not what I'd call the democracy saving counter to providing "official" news.

Unless by "official" news you mean Facts.

RJ, I know you're smart enough to realize that Fox News isn't the only media outlet pushing an agenda, right?

This.

Fucks News was the topic du jour.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on March 02, 2012, 10:35:34 AM
Deliberately obfuscating the truth so as to support an agenda is not what I'd call the democracy saving counter to providing "official" news.

Unless by "official" news you mean Facts.

RJ, I know you're smart enough to realize that Fox News isn't the only media outlet pushing an agenda, right?

I won't speak for RJ, but I'll tell you I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt, assuming you're smart enough to know they're the worst offender by several orders of magnitude. But as a result of your consistent posture in their defense I'm having my doubts.

I'm not defending Fox News, I'm just not comfortable making that value judgment that they are several magnitudes worse than others. The stuff I see from Krugman and Maddow and Jonathan Chait are just as deliberately misleading, IMO.

You were, you do, and they're not. IMO.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 02, 2012, 10:41:35 AM
Deliberately obfuscating the truth so as to support an agenda is not what I'd call the democracy saving counter to providing "official" news.

Unless by "official" news you mean Facts.

RJ, I know you're smart enough to realize that Fox News isn't the only media outlet pushing an agenda, right?

I won't speak for RJ, but I'll tell you I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt, assuming you're smart enough to know they're the worst offender by several orders of magnitude. But as a result of your consistent posture in their defense I'm having my doubts.

I'm not defending Fox News, I'm just not comfortable making that value judgment that they are several magnitudes worse than others. The stuff I see from Krugman and Maddow and Jonathan Chait are just as deliberately misleading, IMO.

You were, you do, and they're not. IMO.

I was defending the right of an individual to seek out and absorb information in any way they see fit. No more, no less.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on March 02, 2012, 10:42:04 AM
The reporting of any phenomena necessitates obfuscation and agenda.  To report is to filter information into a coherent narrative, a narrative that must be at least passable to the person/group of people who finance the distribution of said report. 


The real problem is that the more an individual agrees with the agenda being put forth in a report, the less likely they are to question which elements of the report are supported by fact or reasonable deduction. 


Fox News knows this, as does the New York Times, The Huffington Post, The Wall Street Journal, and on and on and on.     

I agree in theory, but real-world politics is a long, long way from the philosophical purity of the first sentence of your post.



I fail to see how real world politics are exempt from what I stated. 

The call to "real world politics", however, is a prime example an appeal to common sense that I illustrated in the second part of my post.  The statement assumes that both the speaker and the audience have the same construction of the concept and presents the following information as self evident based on that shared construction.   



Edit: See, even I appealed to "real world politics" and common sense in my first sentence.  I've left the logical error in place to illustrate further how easy it is to assume that your own construction of the world is self evident.  It's hard to escape. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on March 02, 2012, 10:46:31 AM
Deliberately obfuscating the truth so as to support an agenda is not what I'd call the democracy saving counter to providing "official" news.

Unless by "official" news you mean Facts.

RJ, I know you're smart enough to realize that Fox News isn't the only media outlet pushing an agenda, right?

I won't speak for RJ, but I'll tell you I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt, assuming you're smart enough to know they're the worst offender by several orders of magnitude. But as a result of your consistent posture in their defense I'm having my doubts.

I'm not defending Fox News, I'm just not comfortable making that value judgment that they are several magnitudes worse than others. The stuff I see from Krugman and Maddow and Jonathan Chait are just as deliberately misleading, IMO.

You were, you do, and they're not. IMO.

I was defending the right of an individual to seek out and absorb information in any way they see fit. No more, no less.

You did nothing of the sort. You impugned my friend's intelligence by use of a strained analogy.

/$0.02
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on March 02, 2012, 10:48:47 AM
The reporting of any phenomena necessitates obfuscation and agenda.  To report is to filter information into a coherent narrative, a narrative that must be at least passable to the person/group of people who finance the distribution of said report. 


The real problem is that the more an individual agrees with the agenda being put forth in a report, the less likely they are to question which elements of the report are supported by fact or reasonable deduction. 


Fox News knows this, as does the New York Times, The Huffington Post, The Wall Street Journal, and on and on and on.     

I agree in theory, but real-world politics is a long, long way from the philosophical purity of the first sentence of your post.



I fail to see how real world politics are exempt from what I stated. 

The call to "real world politics", however, is a prime example an appeal to common sense that I illustrated in the second part of my post.  The statement assumes that both the speaker and the audience have the same construction of the concept and presents the following information as self evident based on that shared construction.   



Edit: See, even I appealed to "real world politics" and common sense in my first sentence.  I've left the logical error in place to illustrate further how easy it is to assume that your own construction of the world is self evident.  It's hard to escape.

I agree 100%. I just won't pretend that Fox News is no worse than the NYT, PBS, BBC, etc.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 02, 2012, 11:02:31 AM
Deliberately obfuscating the truth so as to support an agenda is not what I'd call the democracy saving counter to providing "official" news.

Unless by "official" news you mean Facts.

RJ, I know you're smart enough to realize that Fox News isn't the only media outlet pushing an agenda, right?

I won't speak for RJ, but I'll tell you I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt, assuming you're smart enough to know they're the worst offender by several orders of magnitude. But as a result of your consistent posture in their defense I'm having my doubts.

I'm not defending Fox News, I'm just not comfortable making that value judgment that they are several magnitudes worse than others. The stuff I see from Krugman and Maddow and Jonathan Chait are just as deliberately misleading, IMO.

You were, you do, and they're not. IMO.

I was defending the right of an individual to seek out and absorb information in any way they see fit. No more, no less.

You did nothing of the sort. You impugned my friend's intelligence by use of a strained analogy.

/$0.02

My comment had nothing to do with RJ's intelligence (quite the contrary, I was appealing to his intelligence, not diminishing it). I was simply asking an honest question about his perception of the existence of a left-leaning agenda in the media that, in some sense, Fox News seeks to capitalize from. If I worded it inartfully, I apologize but I was not insulting his intelligence (or yours).
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on March 02, 2012, 11:06:44 AM
The reporting of any phenomena necessitates obfuscation and agenda.  To report is to filter information into a coherent narrative, a narrative that must be at least passable to the person/group of people who finance the distribution of said report. 


The real problem is that the more an individual agrees with the agenda being put forth in a report, the less likely they are to question which elements of the report are supported by fact or reasonable deduction. 


Fox News knows this, as does the New York Times, The Huffington Post, The Wall Street Journal, and on and on and on.     

I agree in theory, but real-world politics is a long, long way from the philosophical purity of the first sentence of your post.



I fail to see how real world politics are exempt from what I stated. 

The call to "real world politics", however, is a prime example an appeal to common sense that I illustrated in the second part of my post.  The statement assumes that both the speaker and the audience have the same construction of the concept and presents the following information as self evident based on that shared construction.   



Edit: See, even I appealed to "real world politics" and common sense in my first sentence.  I've left the logical error in place to illustrate further how easy it is to assume that your own construction of the world is self evident.  It's hard to escape.

I agree 100%. I just won't pretend that Fox News is no worse than the NYT, PBS, BBC, etc.



I mainly believe that Fox News is particularly bad at covering their agenda mainly because:     A.  They have stopped trying to pretend to engage in meaningful debate with the other side, and B. They are masters at appealing to common sense, even when it makes no sense, if that makes sense.  :-D


All major media outlets have the agendas of their most wealthy investors.  Some are just better at covering it up.


But it's not a one way street, as I stated earlier, the more you agree with a stated premise, the harder it is to be critical of any given narrative.  People are most likely to be the least critical if the narrative of a report (or an opinion) happens to resemble their own world view. 

It is hard to make a value judgement as to who is the worst offender based solely on how poor the narrative that the media source is presented.  Fox News is particularly inept (sloppy?) at disguising its agenda, but that isn't evidence that they are the worst offender, just the most obvious. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on March 02, 2012, 11:10:00 AM
+k for staying civil. I see no leftward bias in the mainstream media, but that's probably just because they lean so far to the right.




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Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on March 02, 2012, 11:20:15 AM
+k for staying civil. I see no leftward bias in the mainstream media, but that's probably just because they lean so far to the right.




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Why am I not surprised you see it that way.   :hereitisyousentimentalbastard



Undoubtedly, you are correct at times.  "Mainstream media" is too vast a landscape for me to mentally explore this morning. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on March 02, 2012, 11:34:05 AM
+k for staying civil. I see no leftward bias in the mainstream media, but that's probably just because they lean so far to the right.

I guess it depends on where the center is. Different people probably have their own definitions. Many would probably frame it simply in terms of GOP vs. Democrats.

For my part, I do pick up on a little leftward lean on NPR from time to time. It's fairly subtle and usually I detect it in the way they talk about issues (e.g. assumptions made, language used), not necessarily the issues they choose to talk about. (By contrast, Fox News clearly shows its bias not only in its presentation of coverage but the very topics they obsess over -- always hammering away on organizations like ACORN/Media Matters/Moveon.org, always playing up the Jeremiah Wright/Saul Alinsky/Bill Ayers boogeyman angle; always stoking the culture wars over episodes whether they're trivial or not.)

Also, it can't be denied that MSNBC is flagrantly and unapologetically catering to the liberal viewer. Their election desk is anchored by an opinion person in Maddow (and Olbermann before that) and heavily stacked with other opinion people against the one token conservative on the panel (Pat Buchanan earlier and now Steve Schmidt); and their network promos feature their opinion folks opining on classic liberal issues. The "lean forward" and "one nation, in progress" tag lines are also not hard to unpack. I believe MSNBC is absolutely doing this for business reasons, and I don't begrudge them that. I think the approach at Fox News has also been good business for them; in 1996, CNN was pretty much the only player on cable and was widely bemoaned on the right as being in the tank for Clinton and other Democrats.

One big difference between MSNBC and FN, however, is that MSNBC is pretty damn transparent in terms of where they and their people stand, while FN disingenuously pushes their "fair and balanced" narrative while being anything but. I think this is more dangerous in that it harms the ability of less thoughtful viewers to recognize the agenda being pushed and consider FN's coverage within that context. For me, it's pretty easy to watch MSNBC and separate the factual reporting from the analysis and opinion. Not so sure it's that easy for a lot of the FN acolytes.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 02, 2012, 12:27:48 PM
+k for staying civil.

And to you, sir.   :beers:

But it's not a one way street, as I stated earlier, the more you agree with a stated premise, the harder it is to be critical of any given narrative.  People are most likely to be the least critical if the narrative of a report (or an opinion) happens to resemble their own world view. 

That's why it's easy for me to be critical of either: I think they're all assholes!

To me, this is this the true enemy of a well-informed electorate. One of my major beefs is when an author spouts of a bunch of "facts" without providing the data they used to come to their conclusions. I don't need anyone to tell me the way it is (no matter how many Nobel prizes they have). Give me a table, a chart, a link, something that I can look at for myself and make my own conclusions.

For my part, I do pick up on a little leftward lean on NPR from time to time. It's fairly subtle and usually I detect it in the way they talk about issues (e.g. assumptions made, language used), not necessarily the issues they choose to talk about.

To me the most obvious evidence of left-leaning bias is the implicit support for Obama's military hubris. We can all disagree on whether or not we should have intervened in Libya or why we're still in Afghanistan or why we need a base in Australia, but IMO, the anti-war movement in this country disappeared the day a Democrat took office. Krugman gained far more popularity for bashing Bush's wars than he did any economic issues, yet he's been conspicuously silent on this issue since 2009. With very few examples (see the Jake Tapper-Jay Carney exchange over transparency, Taibbi on Obama's support for banks or Andrew Sullivan on drugs), I just don't see the same questioning of authority under a Democratic president.

Also, it can't be denied that MSNBC is flagrantly and unapologetically catering to the liberal viewer. Their election desk is anchored by an opinion person in Maddow (and Olbermann before that) and heavily stacked with other opinion people against the one token conservative on the panel (Pat Buchanan earlier and now Steve Schmidt); and their network promos feature their opinion folks opining on classic liberal issues. The "lean forward" and "one nation, in progress" tag lines are also not hard to unpack. I believe MSNBC is absolutely doing this for business reasons, and I don't begrudge them that. I think the approach at Fox News has also been good business for them; in 1996, CNN was pretty much the only player on cable and was widely bemoaned on the right as being in the tank for Clinton and other Democrats.

In general, I think the opposition media outlet prospers when the White House changes parties. MSNBC's ratings were way bigger when Bush was in office and Fox News is killing them now. If a particular faction feels oppressed it is more likely to energize them, and as nab points out, since people will seek out opinions that are generally in lockstep with their own, the opposition outlet flourishes (note I have no real evidence to back this up, but if you say something confidently enough and it's written on the Internet, it must be true).
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on March 02, 2012, 03:47:19 PM
+k for staying civil. I see no leftward bias in the mainstream media, but that's probably just because they lean so far to the right.




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Why am I not surprised you see it that way.   :hereitisyousentimentalbastard



Undoubtedly, you are correct at times.  "Mainstream media" is too vast a landscape for me to mentally explore this morning.



Damn straight. But seriously, in practical terms, how can this:

All major media outlets have the agendas of their most wealthy investors. 

...mean anything other than a rightward bias in all media?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on March 02, 2012, 04:43:06 PM
Damn straight. But seriously, in practical terms, how can this:

All major media outlets have the agendas of their most wealthy investors. 

...mean anything other than a rightward bias in all media?

Well, again, that would depend on your definition of what the spectrum is. Would you say The Huffington Post has a rightward bias? They were successful and attractive enough to be acquired by AOL. Does MSNBC have a rightward bias? They fill their air with liberal voices, because there is demand for it. And let's say MSNBC is able to help get a bunch of Democrats elected, and those Democrats impose laws or regulations (higher corporate taxation?) that would be unfavorable to a big company like GE/Comcast/whoever the fuck owns NBC these days, would that unfavorable impact be greater or less than the benefits they've reaped by filling demand for liberal voices on cable news and being successful for it? I'm suggesting that's the actual calculus with regards to media bias and media companies serving their interests.

Now, when we say "right-leaning" and "left-leaning," these are relative terms, like how Mary Landrieu leans right compared to Bernie Sanders, but she's a lefty compared to Sam Brownbeck. So, to some, based on their orientation, both HuffPo and MSNBC may well appear to present a rightward bias. In which case, you point would stand, I suppose...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on March 02, 2012, 05:58:03 PM
Back in MY DAY, news programs were understood to lose money, and were subsidized by a TV channel's revenue from other programs.  It was understood, and probably a point of pride, that this allowed them to be evenhanded and non-partisan.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on March 02, 2012, 06:35:49 PM
+k for staying civil. I see no leftward bias in the mainstream media, but that's probably just because they lean so far to the right.




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Why am I not surprised you see it that way.   :hereitisyousentimentalbastard



Undoubtedly, you are correct at times.  "Mainstream media" is too vast a landscape for me to mentally explore this morning.



Damn straight. But seriously, in practical terms, how can this:

All major media outlets have the agendas of their most wealthy investors. 

...mean anything other than a rightward bias in all media?



Oh yea, I forgot, there is no such thing as a leftist elite.  Poor working class, the whole lot.       
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on March 02, 2012, 08:45:48 PM
the big problem with Fox imo, and, to a lesser extent MSNBC is a matter of degree (RS also, btw)

All newspapers have an editorial bias, but I can read a story in the NYT and WSJ and feel like I  get the story. Time, Newsweek, and US News have sligthtly different biases, but I can read any of them without feeling I'm being brainwashed. I get the impression that the major publications, network news, and CNN see their primary responsibility to report the news, with the editorial twist as a minor component.

not so with Fox. To me, their major purpose is to promote a political agenda, and, by the way, here's some news. Reporters have become part of the story (remember some of the Tea Party rallies of 2010, when Fox reporters were egging the protesters on). The other problem I have with the "far right", is that they tend to be angrier in the way they report. Rachel Mattow is just as biased, but doesn't portray the anger that I hear on Fox. I choose not to get my information from either source.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on March 02, 2012, 09:09:26 PM
Back in MY DAY, news programs were understood to lose money, and were subsidized by a TV channel's revenue from other programs.  It was understood, and probably a point of pride, that this allowed them to be evenhanded and non-partisan.

Kinda raises a problem when the whole network is dedicated to news programming, don't it?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on March 03, 2012, 02:19:31 AM
Back in MY DAY, news programs were understood to lose money, and were subsidized by a TV channel's revenue from other programs.  It was understood, and probably a point of pride, that this allowed them to be evenhanded and non-partisan.

Kinda raises a problem when the whole network is dedicated to news programming, don't it?

YEP
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on March 03, 2012, 11:07:05 AM
+k for staying civil. I see no leftward bias in the mainstream media, but that's probably just because they lean so far to the right.




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Why am I not surprised you see it that way.   :hereitisyousentimentalbastard



Undoubtedly, you are correct at times.  "Mainstream media" is too vast a landscape for me to mentally explore this morning.



Damn straight. But seriously, in practical terms, how can this:

All major media outlets have the agendas of their most wealthy investors. 

...mean anything other than a rightward bias in all media?



Oh yea, I forgot, there is no such thing as a leftist elite.  Poor working class, the whole lot.     

I know there are wealthy leftists. They still want to stay wealthy. And corporations are not minded entities--corporate interests are inherently right-wing, I would argue.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on March 03, 2012, 12:32:50 PM
+k for staying civil. I see no leftward bias in the mainstream media, but that's probably just because they lean so far to the right.




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Why am I not surprised you see it that way.   :hereitisyousentimentalbastard



Undoubtedly, you are correct at times.  "Mainstream media" is too vast a landscape for me to mentally explore this morning.



Damn straight. But seriously, in practical terms, how can this:

All major media outlets have the agendas of their most wealthy investors. 

...mean anything other than a rightward bias in all media?



Oh yea, I forgot, there is no such thing as a leftist elite.  Poor working class, the whole lot.     

I know there are wealthy leftists. They still want to stay wealthy. And corporations are not minded entities--corporate interests are inherently right-wing, I would argue.




I would argue that corporate interests are inherently interested in maximizing profit and willing to throw in with any political movement that fulfills that end.


This conversation is a good example as to how difficult it is to prove bias in reporting. 

Personally I would consider myself to be pretty centrist.  Tests of political position, such as http://www.politicalcompass.org/test, tend to put me on the left.  Yet, when I engage in political conversation with people who are obviously to the left, I always come off as a rightist.


And how does this relate to bias in media?  When I look at reporting in media, I see variation in bias.  For instance, there are the obvious biased stations, such as Fox or MSNBC.  Then I see more subtle bias, for instance I would put NBC as soft left and ABC as soft right in reporting, again based on my political position. 


But, by your own admission, you see mostly a right leaning agenda in all major media reporting.  To me this tells me more about your political position than it does bias in the media. 



Is there independent verification for the degree of bias in media reporting (or observations of any kind for that matter)?  Can't think of any that I could consider completely unbiased, at this moment anyway.  Call me a cynic, but I don't believe it to be possible.   

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on March 04, 2012, 08:49:49 AM

I would argue that corporate interests are inherently interested in maximizing profit and willing to throw in with any political movement that fulfills that end.


I would argue that Rupert Murdoch is extremely conservative and built Fox News to sell that point of view to the masses.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on March 04, 2012, 11:20:08 AM

I would argue that corporate interests are inherently interested in maximizing profit and willing to throw in with any political movement that fulfills that end.


I would argue that Rupert Murdoch is extremely conservative and built Fox News to sell that point of view to the masses.



 

Is it the chicken or the egg:  Did Murdoch set up a media outlet because he truly believes in the message of conservatism as a political movement or because conservatism espouses the laissez faire philosophy that allows him to maximize his profits from a created media outlet.  Or both?

The sticky question here that no one wants to answer is:  What is truth, is it absolute, and can it be accurately reported. 

     
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on March 04, 2012, 05:52:37 PM
Agree that there's always a fair bit of grey, but we have seen some pretty interesting fabrications.
Ex
The birthers
The so called death panels
Obama is a Muslim

Yes, we allow free speech and I'm thankful but a "news" organization has a responsibility to do something called fact checking, a procedure that seems to have been forgotten by some so called reporters
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on March 04, 2012, 06:13:57 PM
Agree that there's always a fair bit of grey, but we have seen some pretty interesting fabrications.
Ex
The birthers
The so called death panels
Obama is a Muslim

Yes, we allow free speech and I'm thankful but a "news" organization has a responsibility to do something called fact checking, a procedure that seems to have been forgotten by some so called reporters

Exactly, there is bias and then there is selling lies while being fully aware that your content has no basis in fact.

That's the difference between Fox and say CNN in my mind.   
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on March 04, 2012, 08:34:18 PM

I would argue that corporate interests are inherently interested in maximizing profit and willing to throw in with any political movement that fulfills that end.


I would argue that Rupert Murdoch is extremely conservative and built Fox News to sell that point of view to the masses.



 

Is it the chicken or the egg:  Did Murdoch set up a media outlet because he truly believes in the message of conservatism as a political movement or because conservatism espouses the laissez faire philosophy that allows him to maximize his profits from a created media outlet.  Or both?

The sticky question here that no one wants to answer is:  What is truth, is it absolute, and can it be accurately reported. 

     

I was hoping to avoid the post-structuralist fog by using terms like "real-world" and "practical" ...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on March 04, 2012, 09:23:46 PM

I would argue that corporate interests are inherently interested in maximizing profit and willing to throw in with any political movement that fulfills that end.


I would argue that Rupert Murdoch is extremely conservative and built Fox News to sell that point of view to the masses.



 

Is it the chicken or the egg:  Did Murdoch set up a media outlet because he truly believes in the message of conservatism as a political movement or because conservatism espouses the laissez faire philosophy that allows him to maximize his profits from a created media outlet.  Or both?

The sticky question here that no one wants to answer is:  What is truth, is it absolute, and can it be accurately reported. 

     

I was hoping to avoid the post-structuralist fog by using terms like "real-world" and "practical" ...




Apparently we haven't had enough conversations yet then.   :-D



But seriously, the terms "real-world", "practical" and "common sense" really only make sense when both people in the conversation share a similar worldview.  They are of little use in mixed company. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on March 05, 2012, 07:36:05 AM
Yeesh. Fair enough. Awesome avatar.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on March 05, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
I enjoyed reading/following this discussion greatly. Nab, your input on the the paug is always missed while you're off playing in the dirt.  :-P
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 06, 2012, 09:06:45 AM
lotta talk for a picture thread...

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/520957/MITT-ROMNEY-OR-MR-BURNS.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on March 06, 2012, 09:42:44 AM
Alright, back to the endless repetition of cleaver tag lines then:


(http://blogs.rep-am.com/worth_reading/files/2012/01/mitt-romney-john-kerry-comparison-similarities-alike.jpg)



Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on March 06, 2012, 10:16:40 AM
Time for another hilarious foxnews.com poll! Take a look at these brilliant options and their scores. I think this picture speaks for itself.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XP8h1BNxRTk/T1YqKz84JMI/AAAAAAAACck/DvySuywUU3Q/s512/Screen%2520shot%25202012-03-06%2520at%252010.12.31%2520AM.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on March 06, 2012, 11:55:13 AM
Time for another hilarious foxnews.com poll! Take a look at these brilliant options and their scores. I think this picture speaks for itself.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XP8h1BNxRTk/T1YqKz84JMI/AAAAAAAACck/DvySuywUU3Q/s512/Screen%2520shot%25202012-03-06%2520at%252010.12.31%2520AM.png)

Is that the first foxnews poll ever where only 8.84% agree with Rush's ACTUAL EXCUSE?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on March 15, 2012, 04:21:58 PM
double-you-tee-eff?????

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426794_408218115858356_100000105135405_1760833_1939731863_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 15, 2012, 04:54:10 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on March 15, 2012, 05:10:07 PM
Racism is a thing of the past.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on March 16, 2012, 10:46:39 AM
double-you-tee-eff?????

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426794_408218115858356_100000105135405_1760833_1939731863_n.jpg)

Not to mention, the pun kinda falls flat when swapping out the original word gives the message the exact opposite meaning.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on March 16, 2012, 12:08:19 PM
Racism is a thing of the past.

It's true. I was talking to this cracker about it just the other day.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on March 16, 2012, 01:23:04 PM
double-you-tee-eff?????

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426794_408218115858356_100000105135405_1760833_1939731863_n.jpg)

Not to mention, the pun kinda falls flat when swapping out the original word gives the message the exact opposite meaning.

Many people think "renig" is the spelling of the word, and that it was derived from something racial.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 16, 2012, 01:24:21 PM
double-you-tee-eff?????

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426794_408218115858356_100000105135405_1760833_1939731863_n.jpg)

Not to mention, the pun kinda falls flat when swapping out the original word gives the message the exact opposite meaning.

Many people in Indiana think "renig" is the spelling of the word, and that it was derived from something racial.

fyp.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on March 16, 2012, 01:26:28 PM
double-you-tee-eff?????

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426794_408218115858356_100000105135405_1760833_1939731863_n.jpg)

Not to mention, the pun kinda falls flat when swapping out the original word gives the message the exact opposite meaning.

Many people in Indiana think "renig" is the spelling of the word, and that it was derived from something racial.

fyp.

I figured that part was implied.  As well as the part about "A word they only use when playing Euchre"
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on March 17, 2012, 09:01:03 AM
Time for another hilarious foxnews.com poll! Take a look at these brilliant options and their scores. I think this picture speaks for itself.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XP8h1BNxRTk/T1YqKz84JMI/AAAAAAAACck/DvySuywUU3Q/s512/Screen%2520shot%25202012-03-06%2520at%252010.12.31%2520AM.png)

Is that the first foxnews poll ever where only 8.84% agree with Rush's ACTUAL EXCUSE?

Oh intelligence, imagine the world if more had it.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 19, 2012, 10:31:49 AM
The TSA: keeping you safe from toddlers in wheelchairs

http://youtu.be/YNO-AzPxS4U
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 21, 2012, 09:51:22 PM
People have way too much time on their hands, but this is brilliant on so many levels.

http://youtu.be/bxch-yi14BE
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on March 21, 2012, 10:38:42 PM
^ That's pretty impressive
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on March 22, 2012, 02:29:28 AM
^ That's pretty impressive
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on March 23, 2012, 11:05:35 PM
 :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 26, 2012, 06:22:49 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx8r4pm8qD1r6m2leo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on March 28, 2012, 08:10:24 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/529346_10151419485860142_907285141_23387336_585831068_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 30, 2012, 10:30:13 PM
whoooooops!

http://youtu.be/egtaV6Pj8yI
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on March 31, 2012, 10:32:31 AM
whoooooops!

http://youtu.be/egtaV6Pj8yI



Just came here to post that. 



My answer, sure sounds like he did. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 31, 2012, 07:28:49 PM
whoooooops!

http://youtu.be/egtaV6Pj8yI



Just came here to post that. 



My answer, sure sounds like he did.

why else would he panic and start rambling nonsense afterwards?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 31, 2012, 07:38:58 PM
according to santorum, apparently obamas re-election will cause some type of zombie apocalypse.
run for your lives!!!

http://youtu.be/DApjHZq9o7M

 :shakehead:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on March 31, 2012, 07:41:26 PM
according to santorum, apparently obamas re-election will cause some type of zombie apocalypse.
run for your lives!!!

http://youtu.be/DApjHZq9o7M

 :shakehead:

Meh, I think the zombie things been over done. I'll pass.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on April 01, 2012, 08:43:28 PM
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/526293_379318442090299_109200595768753_1208914_720055680_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on April 06, 2012, 11:45:18 AM
I may be going out on a limb here, but Jon Stewart is hilarious. Easily the most astute and honest political commentator around IMO.

Part 1:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-5-2012/gsa-holes?xrs=share_copy

Part 2:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-5-2012/gsa-holes---can-you-make-bill-o-reilly-pay--4-00-for-a-shrimp-?xrs=share_copy
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on April 18, 2012, 05:08:28 PM
I LOL'd

(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/r/V/4/clinton-colombian-prostitutes.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on April 20, 2012, 10:42:01 AM
Who wouldn't give up a career in the Secret Service for this?

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/19/article-2132293-12AD1A4D000005DC-133_634x751.jpg)

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on April 26, 2012, 12:46:06 PM
(http://www.imgjoe.com/x/obamagd.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on April 26, 2012, 01:11:41 PM
Poor Phil. He looks so excited but totally he's being boxed out by Anna Gasteyer and Six from Blossom while Mickey chews Obama's ear off about quantum mechanics and his vegetable oil-powered car.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on April 26, 2012, 01:44:47 PM
Poor Phil. He looks so excited but totally he's being boxed out by Anna Gasteyer and Six from Blossom while Mickey chews Obama's ear off about quantum mechanics and his vegetable oil-powered car.

Yeah, now that you mention it, Chimenti does kinda look like an ugly six from blossom.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on April 26, 2012, 01:47:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/8T2eq.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on April 26, 2012, 02:02:15 PM
Poor Phil. He looks so excited but totally he's being boxed out by Anna Gasteyer and Six from Blossom while Mickey chews Obama's ear off about quantum mechanics and his vegetable oil-powered car.

While Bobby stares off blankly in the distance trying to remember the "duck walks into a bar" joke.

And Hicks, that is awesome.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on April 29, 2012, 08:36:28 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/485312_401914859841966_212514318782022_1261209_1220058310_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on May 02, 2012, 08:26:16 AM
(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/king-MAIN.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on May 03, 2012, 07:22:53 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/pxhkk.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on May 03, 2012, 11:37:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/pxhkk.jpg)

Remember, this from the same folks who politicized John Kerry's first Purple Heart award (remember the purple band-aids?) by bundling that up in the overall effort to dishonor that particular Democrat's military service.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on May 03, 2012, 01:56:14 PM
Remember, this from the same folks who politicized John Kerry's first Purple Heart award (remember the purple band-aids?) by bundling that up in the overall effort to dishonor that particular Democrat's military service.

That whole debacle was fucking shameful. You guys ever see "Going Up River," the Kerry biopic dealing w/ his Vietnam service and subsequent anti-war politicking?

My old man and one of my god-fathers are interviewed extensively in that movie. My godfather had been on Kerry's staff since his first run for Senate... But during the general election campaign the DNC leadership drove him out b/c he kept pressing Kerry to take on the Swift Boat dirtbags head-on and talk openly about his service, and for some reason they wouldn't allow it. Pathetic.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on May 07, 2012, 12:04:11 PM
Remember, this from the same folks who politicized John Kerry's first Purple Heart award (remember the purple band-aids?) by bundling that up in the overall effort to dishonor that particular Democrat's military service.

That whole debacle was fucking shameful. You guys ever see "Going Up River," the Kerry biopic dealing w/ his Vietnam service and subsequent anti-war politicking?

My old man and one of my god-fathers are interviewed extensively in that movie. My godfather had been on Kerry's staff since his first run for Senate... But during the general election campaign the DNC leadership drove him out b/c he kept pressing Kerry to take on the Swift Boat dirtbags head-on and talk openly about his service, and for some reason they wouldn't allow it. Pathetic.

Yep, Kerry has no one to blame but himself for letting Repubs get away with that smear job.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on May 11, 2012, 10:21:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCVc_kLfjMg
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on May 11, 2012, 10:57:49 PM
Little bit of love for you all.



After discussing politics elsewhere, I have come to really appreciate the kind of conversations that go on here.  I wondered when the political threads first started happening here whether it would be a good thing for the community.  I can say after looking back, that the concept has, thus far, been a resounding success.  The grace and humanity that exists between members here, even in the throes of heated debate, has not been paralleled anywhere in my experience.         


One of the many reasons the 'paug will always be my home away from home. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on May 12, 2012, 11:31:17 AM
check out this crazy bitch speaking at the lincoln nebraska city council on a proposed  LBGT protection ordinance.

http://youtu.be/nMANMIe0ZZI
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on May 12, 2012, 01:47:23 PM
After discussing politics elsewhere, I have come to really appreciate the kind of conversations that go on here.  I wondered when the political threads first started happening here whether it would be a good thing for the community.  I can say after looking back, that the concept has, thus far, been a resounding success.  The grace and humanity that exists between members here, even in the throes of heated debate, has not been paralleled anywhere in my experience.         

You Suck!  You Suck and your opinion is wrong!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on May 12, 2012, 02:33:31 PM
check out this crazy bitch speaking at the lincoln nebraska city council on a proposed  LBGT protection ordinance.

http://youtu.be/nMANMIe0ZZI

At least the reactions of the dude sitting behind her was funny to watch.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on May 13, 2012, 01:18:59 AM
check out this crazy bitch speaking at the lincoln nebraska city council on a proposed  LBGT protection ordinance.

http://youtu.be/nMANMIe0ZZI

That was like if you played George Clinton's "Dope Dogs" rap backwards.

There's more profit in pretending we're fighting it....
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 23, 2012, 05:35:57 PM
indeed.

(http://mattbors.com/strips/876.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on May 23, 2012, 06:55:23 PM
indeed.

(http://mattbors.com/strips/876.png)

given who posted this, at first i thought it was supposed to be willie nelson and some other guy smoking a joint and i couldn't figure out what the hell it meant.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on May 23, 2012, 07:10:40 PM
indeed.

(http://mattbors.com/strips/876.png)

given who posted this, at first i thought it was supposed to be willie nelson and some other guy smoking a joint and i couldn't figure out what the hell it meant.

 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on May 24, 2012, 12:01:26 AM
(http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/April201291/native_pics.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on May 24, 2012, 12:29:50 PM
(http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/April201291/native_pics.jpg)

I have that on a T-shirt.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on May 24, 2012, 12:36:10 PM
(http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/April201291/native_pics.jpg)

I have that on a T-shirt.

Sames. It's a classic.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on June 05, 2012, 10:19:06 PM
"Either Way"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjZSCi2MSc4&sns=em
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on June 10, 2012, 11:42:35 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/537542_383153045066223_2036983647_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on June 28, 2012, 08:02:48 AM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9319855/stern_religion.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 12, 2012, 10:38:34 PM
(http://a.yfrog.com/img686/9915/qpjfc.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on July 13, 2012, 11:11:17 AM
(http://a.yfrog.com/img686/9915/qpjfc.jpg)

lol, you really should know better.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lincoln/prosperity.asp
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on July 13, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
but it's written on old-timey parchment!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 13, 2012, 12:44:58 PM
lol, you really should know better.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lincoln/prosperity.asp

 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

1) You think I look into this shit before I post it? Pfft
2) Just cause Lincoln didn't say it doesn't make it any less true.
3) Lincoln was actually kind of a dick who didn't think the slaves were equal and supported plans to send them back to Africa. Of course, I probably learned that from the Internet too so who knows if that's true (see #1).
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: phil on July 13, 2012, 01:47:44 PM
3) Lincoln was actually kind of a dick who didn't think the slaves were equal and supported plans to send them back to Africa. Of course, I probably learned that from the Internet too so who knows if that's true (see #1).

It can definitely be argued that the Emancipation Proclaimation was a tactical maneuver designed to weaken the Confederacy's war effort rather than an example of Lincoln being compassionate/benevolent. Dude was no more or less racist than the average american back then was (which was very).
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on July 13, 2012, 01:51:32 PM
3) Lincoln was actually kind of a dick who didn't think the slaves were equal and supported plans to send them back to Africa. Of course, I probably learned that from the Internet too so who knows if that's true (see #1).

It can definitely be argued that the Emancipation Proclaimation was a tactical maneuver designed to weaken the Confederacy's war effort rather than an example of Lincoln being compassionate/benevolent. Dude was no more or less racist than the average american back then was (which was very).

Regardless of all that, the fact is that Lincoln freed the slaves.

Does his motivation really matter?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on July 13, 2012, 02:16:49 PM
Sure it matters if you are a historical scholar. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on July 13, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
Sure it matters if you are a historical scholar.

Which I'm not, I'm just a guy that can spot a fake Abraham Lincoln quote from a mile away.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on July 13, 2012, 03:06:15 PM
It can definitely be argued that the Emancipation Proclaimation was a tactical maneuver designed to weaken the Confederacy's war effort rather than an example of Lincoln being compassionate/benevolent. Dude was no more or less racist than the average american back then was (which was very).

is that what they teach you down there? he was no john brown but he quite morally opposed to slavery.

3) Lincoln was actually kind of a dick who didn't think the slaves were equal and supported plans to send them back to Africa. Of course, I probably learned that from the Internet too so who knows if that's true (see #1).

you're thinking of jefferson.

2) Just cause Lincoln didn't say it doesn't make it any less a pile of horseshit

fyp.

if by 'pulling down the wage payer' you mean companies having to pay workers a just wage, not avoid paying taxes with every loophole found by their army of lawyers, and actively lobbying to lessen regulation on environmental laws, labor laws, trade laws and anything else that might take a dollar out of their bloated pockets.

and then the rest of that nonsense....
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on July 13, 2012, 04:15:51 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/563393_10150905324955493_739777261_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 13, 2012, 09:57:46 PM
3) Lincoln was actually kind of a dick who didn't think the slaves were equal and supported plans to send them back to Africa. Of course, I probably learned that from the Internet too so who knows if that's true (see #1).

you're thinking of jefferson.

No, I'm quite sure Lincoln also supported sending them back to Africa.

You're right he was morally opposed to the institution of slavery, but he also didn't believe they would be able to integrate into society once freed and viewed this (as many at the time did) as the most just remedy. Much like our current President, his views evolved, though it wasn't some astounding feat of altruism but a political calculus (again, sounds familiar). It was because once the slaves were freed and 200,000 served in the Union army, he couldn't very well say, "Hey, thanks for joining us against the dudes who used to whip and rape you. Now get on this boat so someone else can come force you into bondage." So, in that sense, phil is also right that a large (not the only, but a large) motivation behind the Emancipation Proclamation was to strengthen the Union ranks as much as it was to end what Lincoln saw as an unjust institution.

if by 'pulling down the wage payer' you mean companies having to pay workers a just wage, not avoid paying taxes with every loophole found by their army of lawyers, and actively lobbying to lessen regulation on environmental laws, labor laws, trade laws and anything else that might take a dollar out of their bloated pockets.

and then the rest of that nonsense....

Strap in because this might blow your mind: I agree with you that businesses do everything they can to circumvent current rules and write new ones in their favor (although I think it probably occurs more than I would care to admit and less than you would). The difference is that I don't believe the solution to that is to give the gov't more control and thus be more subject to regulatory capture by the industries and businesses they are trying to regulate. I also don't know when employment, which is supposed to be a voluntary contract between two parties, suddenly became Royal Rumble XXIV between the workers and the Romneys. But I will never believe that the most corrupt people in the world (elected officials and regulators) will help guide us to prosperity because they are smart enough to steer the economy in exactly the way they predict without any unintended consequences. I saw Back to the Future, so I know what happens when you try to change things you shouldn't.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on July 13, 2012, 10:23:19 PM
It can definitely be argued that the Emancipation Proclaimation was a tactical maneuver designed to weaken the Confederacy's war effort rather than an example of Lincoln being compassionate/benevolent. Dude was no more or less racist than the average american back then was (which was very).

is that what they teach you down there? he was no john brown but he quite morally opposed to slavery.





Wait a second, are we talking about the Emancipation Proclamation or the 13th Amendment?  There is a difference.  The Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in the jurisdictions over which Lincoln had power as Commander in Chief; that is in the states that were in active rebellion with the Union.  Northern and Western slaves were not technically emancipated until the the passage of the 13th Amendment in 1865. 

Some scholars argue that passage of the 13th Amendment is proof of Lincoln's deep seeded moral abhorrence for slavery (even though it wasn't ratified until month's after his death), while other argue that it's passage is a product of an overzealous Johnson presidency in the heady days of early reconstruction, a period marked by strict reparations from the north which moved to eliminate the cultural patrimony of the south in American politics. 

Either way, the argument that the EP was at least part strategic is salient and valid.  This is especially important if the document is framed in the context of the war at the time of it's issuance; when the northern war effort was struggling against a year (1862) of some pretty staggering southern victories. 



And I agree with this:

Sure it matters if you are a historical scholar.

I'm just a guy that can spot a fake Abraham Lincoln quote from a mile away.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on July 14, 2012, 12:14:11 AM
3) Lincoln was actually kind of a dick who didn't think the slaves were equal and supported plans to send them back to Africa. Of course, I probably learned that from the Internet too so who knows if that's true (see #1).

you're thinking of jefferson.

No, I'm quite sure Lincoln also supported sending them back to Africa.

You're right he was morally opposed to the institution of slavery, but he also didn't believe they would be able to integrate into society once freed and viewed this (as many at the time did) as the most just remedy. Much like our current President, his views evolved, though it wasn't some astounding feat of altruism but a political calculus (again, sounds familiar). It was because once the slaves were freed and 200,000 served in the Union army, he couldn't very well say, "Hey, thanks for joining us against the dudes who used to whip and rape you. Now get on this boat so someone else can come force you into bondage." So, in that sense, phil is also right that a large (not the only, but a large) motivation behind the Emancipation Proclamation was to strengthen the Union ranks as much as it was to end what Lincoln saw as an unjust institution.


Are you as sure of this as you were of the authorship of that proto-prosperity gospel poster? Take a minute.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on July 14, 2012, 12:56:16 AM
3) Lincoln was actually kind of a dick who didn't think the slaves were equal and supported plans to send them back to Africa. Of course, I probably learned that from the Internet too so who knows if that's true (see #1).

you're thinking of jefferson.

No, I'm quite sure Lincoln also supported sending them back to Africa.

You're right he was morally opposed to the institution of slavery, but he also didn't believe they would be able to integrate into society once freed and viewed this (as many at the time did) as the most just remedy. Much like our current President, his views evolved, though it wasn't some astounding feat of altruism but a political calculus (again, sounds familiar). It was because once the slaves were freed and 200,000 served in the Union army, he couldn't very well say, "Hey, thanks for joining us against the dudes who used to whip and rape you. Now get on this boat so someone else can come force you into bondage." So, in that sense, phil is also right that a large (not the only, but a large) motivation behind the Emancipation Proclamation was to strengthen the Union ranks as much as it was to end what Lincoln saw as an unjust institution.


Are you as sure of this as you were of the authorship of that proto-prosperity gospel poster? Take a minute.


Well, the Accessible, Probably Reliable (in many cases), Not Fully Fact Checked Brigade (wikipedia) makes this case:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Colonization_Society#Lincoln_and_the_ACS

Quote
)Since the 1840s, Lincoln, an admirer of Clay, had been an advocate of the ACS program of colonizing blacks in Liberia. In an 1854 speech in Illinois, he pointed out the immense difficulties inherent in such an approach and the miniscule chance that it had of becoming an easy way of quickly ending slavery.[13]

Early in his presidency, Abraham Lincoln tried repeatedly to arrange resettlement of the kind the ACS supported, but each arrangement failed; see Abraham Lincoln on slavery. Most scholars believe that Lincoln abandoned the idea by 1863, following the use of black troops. Biographer Stephen B. Oates has observed that Lincoln thought it immoral to ask black soldiers to fight for the US and then to remove them to Africa after their military service. Others, such as the historian Michael Lind, believe that as late 1864 or 1865, Lincoln continued to hold out hope for colonization, noting that he allegedly asked Attorney General Edward Bates if the Reverend James Mitchell could stay on as "your assistant or aid in the matter of executing the several acts of Congress relating to the emigration or colonizing of the freed Blacks."[14] Mitchell, a former state director of the ACS in Indiana, had been appointed by Lincoln in 1862 to oversee the government's colonization programs. In his second term as president, on April 11, 1865, Lincoln gave a speech supporting suffrage for blacks.



Fake Lincoln quote aside, historiography is still undecided, in spite of  the Best of the IHR.   

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 14, 2012, 11:16:43 PM
3) Lincoln was actually kind of a dick who didn't think the slaves were equal and supported plans to send them back to Africa. Of course, I probably learned that from the Internet too so who knows if that's true (see #1).

you're thinking of jefferson.

No, I'm quite sure Lincoln also supported sending them back to Africa.

You're right he was morally opposed to the institution of slavery, but he also didn't believe they would be able to integrate into society once freed and viewed this (as many at the time did) as the most just remedy. Much like our current President, his views evolved, though it wasn't some astounding feat of altruism but a political calculus (again, sounds familiar). It was because once the slaves were freed and 200,000 served in the Union army, he couldn't very well say, "Hey, thanks for joining us against the dudes who used to whip and rape you. Now get on this boat so someone else can come force you into bondage." So, in that sense, phil is also right that a large (not the only, but a large) motivation behind the Emancipation Proclamation was to strengthen the Union ranks as much as it was to end what Lincoln saw as an unjust institution.


Are you as sure of this as you were of the authorship of that proto-prosperity gospel poster? Take a minute.

 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

To be clear, I wasn't trying to pull a fast one on the quote; I saw it on Twitter (which was probably my first mistake) and threw it up here. But, as I also said, I think the statements are quite valid regardless of whether racist ole' Abe Lincoln said them or not.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on July 14, 2012, 11:33:21 PM
To be clear, I wasn't trying to pull a fast one on the quote; I saw it on Twitter (which was probably my first mistake) and threw it up here. But, as I also said, I think the statements are quite valid regardless of whether racist ole' Abe Lincoln said them or not.

 :lol:

and to be clear, i didnt mean to imply i thought abe's intentions were all pure, but i got a kick out of how phil put it, and i envisioned former slave state history class...

:In yokel voice:
"Now kids, lets be clear, Abraham Lincoln only freed the slaves so he could send em in to kill us.  In fact, he hated n*****s just as much as the rest of us do....I mean did...I mean..."
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 14, 2012, 11:55:27 PM
To be clear, I wasn't trying to pull a fast one on the quote; I saw it on Twitter (which was probably my first mistake) and threw it up here. But, as I also said, I think the statements are quite valid regardless of whether racist ole' Abe Lincoln said them or not.

 :lol:

and to be clear, i didnt mean to imply i thought abe's intentions were all pure, but i got a kick out of how phil put it, and i envisioned former slave state history class...

:In yokel voice:
"Now kids, lets be clear, Abraham Lincoln only freed the slaves so he could send em in to kill us.  In fact, he hated n*****s just as much as the rest of us do....I mean did...I mean..."

And, just be clear on one other thing, I never thought you were racist, MBW, until that Morgan Freeman joke in LST the other night. That was...what's the word...dark.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on July 15, 2012, 01:19:07 AM
Tread lightly........

Quote
No personal attacks for opposing views, just lucid, intellectual discussions please.  We don't want to create tension that expands beyond this topic - we all share a common bond of Phish and live music in general, so let's not forget that... we're all on the same side!! 

In the words of Ali G, "Respekt, a'ight?"
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 15, 2012, 07:24:26 AM
Tread lightly........

Quote
No personal attacks for opposing views, just lucid, intellectual discussions please.  We don't want to create tension that expands beyond this topic - we all share a common bond of Phish and live music in general, so let's not forget that... we're all on the same side!! 

In the words of Ali G, "Respekt, a'ight?"

Ah, I can't believe I have to note that I was kidding, but....I was kidding.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on July 15, 2012, 09:29:32 AM
To be clear, I wasn't trying to pull a fast one on the quote; I saw it on Twitter (which was probably my first mistake) and threw it up here. But, as I also said, I think the statements are quite valid regardless of whether racist ole' Abe Lincoln said them or not.

 :lol:

and to be clear, i didnt mean to imply i thought abe's intentions were all pure, but i got a kick out of how phil put it, and i envisioned former slave state history class...

:In yokel voice:
"Now kids, lets be clear, Abraham Lincoln only freed the slaves so he could send em in to kill us.  In fact, he hated n*****s just as much as the rest of us do....I mean did...I mean..."

And, just be clear on one other thing, I never thought you were racist, MBW, until that Morgan Freeman joke in LST the other night. That was...what's the word...dark.

 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on July 15, 2012, 09:50:08 AM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/581095_10150897605336275_1221131479_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 15, 2012, 11:34:39 PM
I'm calling bullshit on that one. I'm almost positive the Interent wasn't around during the Civil War.

Also, lulz at MBW for being FB friends with "BeingLiberal.org" (I kid, I kid).
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on July 16, 2012, 12:18:03 AM
Actually, I'm not, but a bunch of my internet friends are.  The funniest thing I've seen on fb in a while, however, was "b.vaz likes mitt Romney" on the sidebar thingy.  I lol'd.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on July 16, 2012, 07:42:44 PM
You know what also wasn't around during the Civil War?

An economy that even remotely resembles the one we have today.

Which makes it extra hilarious that anyone would think that Lincoln's thoughts on welfare etc. would be applicable to today's economic climate.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on July 16, 2012, 08:10:12 PM
oh my...

http://youtu.be/N3wYU3jprTI
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 16, 2012, 11:11:51 PM
You know what also wasn't around during the Civil War?

An economy that even remotely resembles the one we have today.

Which makes it extra hilarious that anyone would think that Lincoln's thoughts on welfare etc. would be applicable to today's economic climate.

C'mon, Hicks. I know you're just going for the cheap points, but let's not get carried away.

Copernicus figured out the Earth wasn't the center of the universe without a telescope. Adam Smith didn't know shit about invisibility or hands (probably), but he's quoted in every single Econ text on demand, supply, and equilibrium (i.e., chapter 1). Sun Tzu fought people with rocks and sticks but he's still considered the greatest strategist (militarily and otherwise) ever to write those funny letters on a page.

I don't mind you objecting to the ideas in the quote, but pretending underlying truths don't exist because technology has brought about changes the ancients could never dream of is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

Oh yeah, and they weren't even Lincoln's thoughts. How many times do we have to go over this?! :wink:

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go give $100M to Sarah Silverman.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 19, 2012, 09:01:56 AM
Looks like Barry got to fulfill every Texan's one true wish... getting high on Willie's bus!

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/295403_3858484153339_1901802543_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on July 19, 2012, 02:40:31 PM
Looks like Barry got to fulfill every Texan's one true wish... getting high on Willie's bus!

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/295403_3858484153339_1901802543_n.jpg)

tokes jelly
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 31, 2012, 09:54:52 AM
I lul'd...

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/481945_10151150693313132_1208086595_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on July 31, 2012, 10:19:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNDsyKnQIes
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 02, 2012, 01:18:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/iwrql.jpg)

And yes, they do speak Norwegian in Hell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Norway).
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 03, 2012, 09:45:40 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/do30Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 15, 2012, 02:26:07 PM
(http://bobbiblogger.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/choose.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on August 16, 2012, 11:13:46 AM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/189504_417933801606031_26677418_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on August 16, 2012, 11:24:18 AM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/189504_417933801606031_26677418_n.jpg)

LULz... I should say, I read Atlas Shrugged when I was like 23 years old. I loved it. It really did change the way I see the world. I never agreed with her, but it changed my perspective, for sure.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on August 16, 2012, 12:06:56 PM
(http://bobbiblogger.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/choose.jpg)

That's good stuff...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: phil on August 16, 2012, 12:55:23 PM
(http://0.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/38/58/0f6f8f13afd2a3cc0f84cd2ee651bbcb-hey-girl-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: phil on August 17, 2012, 01:35:13 PM
(http://2.media.todaysbigthing.cvcdn.com/37/91/ef35b144594ca86ed1206dd904023f1e.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 24, 2012, 04:45:01 PM
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2012/08-2/20120824_wallstreet.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on August 25, 2012, 09:00:45 AM
http://youtu.be/Anc_gP2_QeI
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mehead on August 25, 2012, 09:30:38 AM
I'm afraid to watch
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on August 28, 2012, 09:15:14 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/205936_10151138390336749_1938381363_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 30, 2012, 02:21:34 PM
Please take a moment and watch and listen to Samantha Bee From last night's Daily Show.
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http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-august-29-2012/rnc-2012---the-road-to-jeb-bush-2016---the-republican-platform
(posted this way because the autoembed plugin wasn't working right.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 30, 2012, 02:32:35 PM
Here's some truth for you:
(http://i.imgur.com/97Vlv.jpg)
They built that shit.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on August 30, 2012, 03:22:51 PM
Please take a moment and watch and listen to Samantha Bee From last night's Daily Show.
Code: [Select]
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-august-29-2012/rnc-2012---the-road-to-jeb-bush-2016---the-republican-platform
(posted this way because the autoembed plugin wasn't working right.

No one is as good as the Daily Show at using people's own words to make them look stupid.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 31, 2012, 12:31:27 AM
(https://p.twimg.com/A1l9D9nCUAAUrXu.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on August 31, 2012, 11:12:00 AM
(http://9.mshcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/clint-eastwood-chair-at-rnc/30564617987.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 31, 2012, 12:02:40 PM
(http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/resize/550x600/http://www.blogcdn.com/www.mandatory.com/media/2012/08/romney-money.jpg)
RMoney Brings It Family-Style
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on August 31, 2012, 12:10:16 PM
(http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/resize/550x600/http://www.blogcdn.com/www.mandatory.com/media/2012/08/romney-money.jpg)
RMoney Brings It Family-Style

never gets old.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: natronzero on August 31, 2012, 01:37:19 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/408310_3949289365204_2085396509_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on September 01, 2012, 06:04:48 PM
It's halftime in America, but unfortunately Clint Eastwood's mind is well into OT.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 01, 2012, 11:53:26 PM
It's halftime in America, but unfortunately Clint Eastwood's mind is well into OT.

Which reminds me, didn't Republicans hate Clint Eastwood for that commercial? WTF was he doing speaking at their convention?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: phil on September 06, 2012, 01:34:00 PM
B. Hussein Obamney terrorist proof:

(http://rashmanly.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/obama-muslim.jpg?w=450&h=572)

 :roll:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on September 08, 2012, 02:39:24 PM
 :roll:


http://youtu.be/NXUPDAMc_6o
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: natronzero on September 13, 2012, 02:57:22 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/10445_4488439770761_1561188269_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on September 14, 2012, 09:43:37 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8swxbmfJw1qgu9k8o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: twatts on September 15, 2012, 01:06:28 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8swxbmfJw1qgu9k8o1_500.jpg)

“Now it is true that I believe this country is following a dangerous trend when it permits too great a degree of centralization of governmental functions. I oppose this--in some instances the fight is a rather desperate one. But to attain any success it is quite clear that the Federal government cannot avoid or escape responsibilities which the mass of the people firmly believe should be undertaken by it. The political processes of our country are such that if a rule of reason is not applied in this effort, we will lose everything--even to a possible and drastic change in the Constitution. This is what I mean by my constant insistence upon "moderation" in government. Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas.  Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”

http://www.eisenhowermemorial.org/presidential-papers/first-term/documents/1147.cfm

Hit the nail on the head!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on September 15, 2012, 12:29:23 PM
^ Iamgine that, a moderate, reasonable politician who takes a nuanced view of things!

(Sounds like Mitt Romney circa Massachusetts.)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 15, 2012, 02:26:14 PM
^ Iamgine that, a moderate, reasonable politician who takes a nuanced view of things!

(Sounds like Mitt Romney circa Massachusetts.)

I don't know that there's anything reasonable or nuanced about calling those who you disagree with "stupid".
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on September 15, 2012, 02:56:13 PM
maybe so - it is still more reasonable and nuanced than anything that has come out of a GOP admin or spokesman since GHWB.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: twatts on September 17, 2012, 12:46:57 AM
^ Iamgine that, a moderate, reasonable politician who takes a nuanced view of things!

(Sounds like Mitt Romney circa Massachusetts.)

I don't know that there's anything reasonable or nuanced about calling those who you disagree with "stupid".

Why not???  When it comes to politicks, since its all a matter of perspective, some people will inevitably be deemed "stupid" at some point by someone of the opposing view...  I'm "stupid" a lot, but hey I still vote, Bitches!   :-P

Terry
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on September 17, 2012, 09:13:59 AM
^ Iamgine that, a moderate, reasonable politician who takes a nuanced view of things!

(Sounds like Mitt Romney circa Massachusetts.)

I don't know that there's anything reasonable or nuanced about calling those who you disagree with "stupid".

I was referring less to Ike's delivery and more the fact that his distinct lack of seething, knee-jerk right-wingery would, as sls says, make him a very unpopular person in modern Republican circles.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 17, 2012, 05:45:18 PM
Awesome!!

trust me - this one's worth your time!

http://nyti.ms/RXWjmw (http://nyti.ms/RXWjmw)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on September 18, 2012, 04:03:13 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/248536_400952339971280_2103851645_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on September 18, 2012, 05:11:42 PM
Awesome!!

trust me - this one's worth your time!

http://nyti.ms/RXWjmw (http://nyti.ms/RXWjmw)


 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on September 18, 2012, 09:44:12 PM
in case you haven't seen it

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/obama-vs-romney-cold-open/1417234
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 18, 2012, 09:56:29 PM
Awesome!!

trust me - this one's worth your time!

http://nyti.ms/RXWjmw (http://nyti.ms/RXWjmw)


 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Just getting a chance to watch this. Awesome!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 18, 2012, 10:58:00 PM
Awesome!!

trust me - this one's worth your time!

http://nyti.ms/RXWjmw (http://nyti.ms/RXWjmw)


 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Just getting a chance to watch this. Awesome!

Just watched it again, this time after a few drinks. It's hilarious. Seriously.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on September 19, 2012, 09:00:12 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/oDXKG.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on September 19, 2012, 09:12:46 AM
 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 19, 2012, 09:29:02 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/oDXKG.jpg)

BWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

Oh man, thats to good to not be quoted. Oh man.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on September 19, 2012, 10:12:10 AM
 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on September 19, 2012, 11:25:00 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/527354_364994730242709_1836500926_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on September 19, 2012, 11:33:19 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/527354_364994730242709_1836500926_n.jpg)

Perfect.

And that Obama pic mighty be the greatest thing I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: phil on September 20, 2012, 10:00:56 AM
(http://0.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/38/39/37236bc4ecf024209a3829b99efbdd8b.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on September 21, 2012, 11:47:12 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/384194_350781355011333_1081317868_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 22, 2012, 08:41:12 AM
(http://malialitman.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/romney-laughing-theyll-still-vote-for-me.png)

(http://www.sirmemealot.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/romney-swiss-account-meme.jpeg)

(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/H/k/4/romney-lazy-bastards.jpg)

(http://i.qkme.me/35tq97.jpg)

Phew. That was fun.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on September 22, 2012, 10:55:17 AM
^^^^  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard


(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/10513_350878308334971_2057558164_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on September 22, 2012, 11:14:16 AM
I have a whole new appreciation for Sarah Silverman now.  Watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypRW5qoraTw
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 22, 2012, 04:43:01 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/10513_350878308334971_2057558164_n.jpg)

"Affordable health care (http://n.pr/RrSbfa)", LOL
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 29, 2012, 09:00:40 PM
Social media is hard

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3_iSqBCIAAb_FG.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 29, 2012, 10:22:16 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/339489_10150389083281437_690964820_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on September 30, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
some good lulz up in here.  :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on September 30, 2012, 07:59:58 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/579652_10152130259820203_412211354_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on September 30, 2012, 08:01:34 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/579652_10152130259820203_412211354_n.jpg)

good stuff.  do people actually have those though?  i swear i have never seen one.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 30, 2012, 09:13:48 PM
From tonight's opening credits

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4FFBKBCQAAey_B.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on September 30, 2012, 09:14:57 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/579652_10152130259820203_412211354_n.jpg)

good stuff.  do people actually have those though?  i swear i have never seen one.

I think people are just sticking with their Palin/McCain 2008 stickers.  Increases their credibility.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on October 01, 2012, 05:50:28 PM
snicker....

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/543428_471816642863192_911517042_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on October 01, 2012, 05:55:47 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/284088_354435574645911_255827812_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on October 02, 2012, 11:43:40 AM
Thanks, Undermind, I had almost forgotten about that gem. That was one of his most doosh chilliest moments since the "spilled milk" line in the SOTU.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on October 03, 2012, 07:44:56 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/317605_3666123422480_713216179_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on October 03, 2012, 07:52:21 PM
^^^ :)

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/577104_355522211203914_290157739_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on October 04, 2012, 09:33:35 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/wcYMy.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on October 04, 2012, 09:39:40 AM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/74881_350513355040063_165390120_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on October 04, 2012, 10:19:00 AM
troof.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on October 04, 2012, 10:37:59 AM
NdGT needs to run for president. Dude is unapologetically brilliant yet can still relate to the real world and knows how to marry brain power with common sense.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on October 04, 2012, 01:55:15 PM
Obviously, there have been a thousand of these on FB today. I thought this one was worth sharing...

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/420960_10151181938998608_896285960_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on October 04, 2012, 10:32:19 PM
troof.

Another good one:

Quote
John Aziz ‏@azizonomics
The US military budget spends a PBS every 4 hours. #bigbird
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 05, 2012, 09:38:34 AM
troof.

Another good one:

Quote
John Aziz ‏@azizonomics
The US military budget spends a PBS every 4 hours. #bigbird

Their math is jacked.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Guyute on October 05, 2012, 01:39:36 PM
1 more
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on October 05, 2012, 02:02:53 PM
1 more

 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on October 06, 2012, 10:24:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2GQMiOEng8
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on October 07, 2012, 05:24:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWgYEkArxos
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 16, 2012, 07:47:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCMIhftbV6s
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on October 16, 2012, 11:24:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCMIhftbV6s

That song makes me wanna go to McDonald's and get me some freedom fries!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on October 16, 2012, 11:34:36 AM
Get the facts - all the details of the Romney/Ryan tax plan are here for you... Serious.

http://www.romneytaxplan.com/ (http://www.romneytaxplan.com/)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 16, 2012, 11:58:37 AM
Get the facts - all the details of the Romney/Ryan tax plan are here for you... Serious.

http://www.romneytaxplan.com/ (http://www.romneytaxplan.com/)

Nice.
Here's another explanation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB7I0vpwT7M
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on October 16, 2012, 12:27:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCMIhftbV6s

That song makes me wanna go to McDonald's and get me some freedom fries!

I kept watching expecting it to turn into a parody and then it never did.

I want my three minutes back.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on October 16, 2012, 03:48:39 PM
Get the facts - all the details of the Romney/Ryan tax plan are here for you... Serious.

http://www.romneytaxplan.com/ (http://www.romneytaxplan.com/)

Nice.
Here's another explanation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB7I0vpwT7M

I guess it's true what they say: if you can't do it yourself (explain Romney's tax plan, take responsibility for Libya), have a Clinton do it!

And here is Bill Clinton describing what Obama's tax plan is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0&sns=em
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on October 17, 2012, 02:51:32 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/45292_452985254753543_1762753933_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 17, 2012, 03:41:08 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/45292_452985254753543_1762753933_n.jpg)

Awesome!  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on October 17, 2012, 11:32:35 PM
2 good ones tonight.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/553775_10151102048571275_1811927041_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/480369_4225303585774_1458756723_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: McGrupp on October 18, 2012, 01:15:07 AM
My gf showed me this today... some really good ones on here.

"What do you get when you combine Arrested Development quotes and images from the presidential election? Arrested Decision 2012."

http://www.buzzfeed.com/networkdeskpeon/its-arrested-decision-2012-53wv

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web04/2012/10/16/18/enhanced-buzz-11599-1350425958-0.jpg)

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web04/2012/10/16/18/enhanced-buzz-11602-1350425932-3.jpg)

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/10/16/18/enhanced-buzz-30003-1350426189-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Video Games/Images
Post by: Hicks on October 19, 2012, 01:28:46 PM
http://www.romneybindersgame.com/
Title: Re: Political Video Games/Images
Post by: Undermind on October 19, 2012, 01:44:39 PM
http://www.romneybindersgame.com/
:-D
Title: Re: Political Video Games/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on October 19, 2012, 02:09:12 PM
http://www.romneybindersgame.com/
:-D

Reminds me of Kaboom!
Title: Re: Political Video Games/Images
Post by: VDB on October 19, 2012, 02:15:06 PM
http://www.romneybindersgame.com/

I snatched 60.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on October 20, 2012, 06:11:22 PM
(https://o.twimg.com/1/proxy.jpg?t=FQQVAhgpaHR0cHM6Ly90d2l0cGljLmNvbS9zaG93L2xhcmdlL2I1bTNkZi5qcGcUBBYAEgA&s=5C_qwwZnGV3RYi6zTahgpz7H6mFrsTKEc5s58WcJynQ)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 23, 2012, 09:23:37 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/XDzEY.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 23, 2012, 11:40:51 AM
(http://8.mshcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/horses-bayonets-debate-romney.jpeg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on October 23, 2012, 02:25:35 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/292834_483640048323259_740413087_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: phil on October 24, 2012, 01:12:11 PM
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6839054/obama-panders-to-50-states-in-90-seconds
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on October 24, 2012, 01:20:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlxkcewBEe0
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: phil on October 24, 2012, 05:46:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlxkcewBEe0

YES! That show is a total dud imo, with the exception of this sketch (which is solid gold)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on October 28, 2012, 08:29:20 PM
http://youtu.be/6TiXUF9xbTo
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on November 01, 2012, 05:04:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0M7IdNl7U
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 01, 2012, 05:11:39 PM
Lulz.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on November 01, 2012, 05:30:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0M7IdNl7U

Ho. Lee. Shit.

This country is uber fucked.

Watch out for the Buddhists!

USA! USA! USA!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on November 01, 2012, 05:33:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0M7IdNl7U

Ho. Lee. Shit.

This country is uber fucked.

Watch out for the Buddhists!

USA! USA! USA!

and watch out for those Atheist Muslim Communists too.  :frustrated:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on November 01, 2012, 05:44:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0M7IdNl7U

Ho. Lee. Shit.

This country is uber fucked.

Watch out for the Buddhists!

USA! USA! USA!

and watch out for those Atheist Muslim Communists too.  :frustrated:

I'm pretty sure my neighbors one! They're the worst!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 01, 2012, 05:48:39 PM
That kid keeps a straight face the whole time until that Buddhists comment then he just can't do it...

Actually, when he says "You think Buddhists have come in and taken over the country?" he sounded just like Mike when he says, "You brought bad reviews?"

ETA: I knew some PT'er had to have upped this one to the tubes:

http://youtu.be/8dPH1D_IO5A (http://youtu.be/8dPH1D_IO5A)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on November 01, 2012, 05:57:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0M7IdNl7U

Ho. Lee. Shit.

This country is uber fucked.

Watch out for the Buddhists!

USA! USA! USA!

and watch out for those Atheist Muslim Communists too.  :frustrated:
Who attended a christian church for 20 years.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 01, 2012, 06:03:47 PM

I love me some cartograms. Here is the US according to SuperPACs, with the size of each state scaled based on ad money spent per voter. There are really only 12 states.


(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/182581_10151498837343065_1227008307_n.jpg)

and a video explaining it better...

www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/11/01/163632378/a-campaign-map-morphed-by-money? (http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/11/01/163632378/a-campaign-map-morphed-by-money?)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on November 01, 2012, 07:03:59 PM
I don't know what's more disturbing about that vid

Is it that Romney starts off with a blatant unadulterated total lie, or the fact that a portion of our electorate has the IQ of a houseplant- and that those people no doubt have offspring.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on November 01, 2012, 07:21:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjNe9LsYpU4

I was waiting for Hacksaw Jim Duggan to jump up on stage with his 2x4!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 01, 2012, 10:55:38 PM

I love me some cartograms. Here is the US according to SuperPACs, with the size of each state scaled based on ad money spent per voter. There are really only 12 states.


(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/182581_10151498837343065_1227008307_n.jpg)

and a video explaining it better...

www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/11/01/163632378/a-campaign-map-morphed-by-money? (http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/11/01/163632378/a-campaign-map-morphed-by-money?)

Wait, I'm confused: I thought Citizens United ensured that Republicans and their corporate masters would be able to buy elections? That map looks pretty purple, even blue to me. Where's all the outrage at?!?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 01, 2012, 11:00:40 PM

I love me some cartograms. Here is the US according to SuperPACs, with the size of each state scaled based on ad money spent per voter. There are really only 12 states.


(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/182581_10151498837343065_1227008307_n.jpg)

and a video explaining it better...

www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/11/01/163632378/a-campaign-map-morphed-by-money? (http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/11/01/163632378/a-campaign-map-morphed-by-money?)

Wait, I'm confused: I thought Citizens United ensured that Republicans and their corporate masters would be able to buy elections? That map looks pretty purple, even blue to me. Where's all the outrage at?!?

You didn't watch the video, did you. The amount of money spent is how they determine the size of each shape. The color is how definitively red or blue the state was in the 2008 election results. The point is that you can barely see the red or blue states, but the purple states are HUGE. Nearly $6 per voter has been spent in Nevada while under $.50 per voter has been spent in California.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 01, 2012, 11:01:20 PM
Also, LOL at Chris Christie, free market champion!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0M7IdNl7U

And hey look, Obama supporters can be stupid too!!! (and this is in NY, which is obviously much more culturally and intellectually advanced than backassward Ohio)

http://youtu.be/Skw-0jv9kts
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 01, 2012, 11:11:45 PM

I love me some cartograms. Here is the US according to SuperPACs, with the size of each state scaled based on ad money spent per voter. There are really only 12 states.


(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/182581_10151498837343065_1227008307_n.jpg)

and a video explaining it better...

www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/11/01/163632378/a-campaign-map-morphed-by-money? (http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/11/01/163632378/a-campaign-map-morphed-by-money?)

Wait, I'm confused: I thought Citizens United ensured that Republicans and their corporate masters would be able to buy elections? That map looks pretty purple, even blue to me. Where's all the outrage at?!?

You didn't watch the video, did you. The amount of money spent is how they determine the size of each shape. The color is how definitively red or blue the state was in the 2008 election results. The point is that you can barely see the red or blue states, but the purple states are HUGE. Nearly $6 per voter has been spent in Nevada while under $.50 per voter has been spent in California.

I didn't, but I think you did a good job explaining it here. In that case I'd say they need a better scale.

Still, I am jealous of you and others who don't live in one of those 12 states and have to endure the inundation of campaign ads every 4 yrs. I can't wait for Wednesday.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on November 01, 2012, 11:23:21 PM

I love me some cartograms. Here is the US according to SuperPACs, with the size of each state scaled based on ad money spent per voter. There are really only 12 states.


(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/182581_10151498837343065_1227008307_n.jpg)

and a video explaining it better...

www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/11/01/163632378/a-campaign-map-morphed-by-money? (http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/11/01/163632378/a-campaign-map-morphed-by-money?)

All hail the perfect, infallible electoral college!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on November 01, 2012, 11:54:17 PM
Also, LOL at Chris Christie, free market champion!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0M7IdNl7U

And hey look, Obama supporters can be stupid too!!! (and this is in NY, which is obviously much more culturally and intellectually advanced than backassward Ohio)

http://youtu.be/Skw-0jv9kts

stupid sure. believing that the president of the united states is a secret terrorist, that's a whole other bag of potatoes.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on November 02, 2012, 01:05:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0M7IdNl7U

Ho. Lee. Shit.

This country is uber fucked.

Watch out for the Buddhists!

USA! USA! USA!

and watch out for those Atheist Muslim Communists too.  :frustrated:
Who attended a christian church for 20 years.

Don't you mean a RACIST Christian church?  So, he's a socialist, racist, atheist, Muslim, communist!  And don't forget, he's letting those fuckin' Buddhists come in and take away our freedom!

Scary words are scary.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on November 02, 2012, 01:53:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0M7IdNl7U

Ho. Lee. Shit.

This country is uber fucked.

Watch out for the Buddhists!

USA! USA! USA!

and watch out for those Atheist Muslim Communists too.  :frustrated:
Who attended a christian church for 20 years.

Don't you mean a RACIST Christian church?  So, he's a socialist, racist, atheist, Muslim, communist!  And don't forget, he's letting those fuckin' Buddhists come in and take away our freedom!

Scary words are scary.


Scary man on the street reports are scary.  Same old story, different venue.


The begging question remains, what would any of us do to answer the ignorance?  That is the difficult query, in part because human reality, no how hard we try, resits quantification.  It is expressed in real time, with the unknown weight of past personal experience weighing heavily on the speaker and the listener. 

It's easy to pass these speakers off as an aberration, but difficult for me to honestly address what it is that bugs me most about their message.  Most of the difficulty is frustration.  I can bang my head against an info-graphic all day, but if the only people who are willing to address the problems presented in the info-graphic with me are those that agree with it's premise, I've done little beyond preaching to the choir.

The most insidious facet of American politics is the "us or them " mentality.  Unfortunately, the alternative takes real work and compassion, not the message passing and blustering in the name of both ideals that passes for political dialog.             
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on November 02, 2012, 02:58:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0M7IdNl7U

Ho. Lee. Shit.

This country is uber fucked.

Watch out for the Buddhists!

USA! USA! USA!

and watch out for those Atheist Muslim Communists too.  :frustrated:
Who attended a christian church for 20 years.

Don't you mean a RACIST Christian church?  So, he's a socialist, racist, atheist, Muslim, communist!  And don't forget, he's letting those fuckin' Buddhists come in and take away our freedom!

Scary words are scary.


Scary man on the street reports are scary.  Same old story, different venue.


The begging question remains, what would any of us do to answer the ignorance?  That is the difficult query, in part because human reality, no how hard we try, resits quantification.  It is expressed in real time, with the unknown weight of past personal experience weighing heavily on the speaker and the listener. 

It's easy to pass these speakers off as an aberration, but difficult for me to honestly address what it is that bugs me most about their message.  Most of the difficulty is frustration.  I can bang my head against an info-graphic all day, but if the only people who are willing to address the problems presented in the info-graphic with me are those that agree with it's premise, I've done little beyond preaching to the choir.

The most insidious facet of American politics is the "us or them " mentality.  Unfortunately, the alternative takes real work and compassion, not the message passing and blustering in the name of both ideals that passes for political dialog.           

Agreed.  My opinion is, I don't believe there is anything we can do to answer the ignorance.  At least not directly. 

Imagine trying to explain something that's just the slightest bit complex to that woman in the video (who believes someone can be both an atheist and a Muslim).  When people like that are shown information that challenges their worldview, it doesn't make them question their beliefs, it actually reaffirms them (because of the "us vs them" that you mentioned). 

All we can do is address it indirectly, by striving to better educate the next generation. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 02, 2012, 11:09:13 AM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/21627_10151242998624577_1709859029_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on November 02, 2012, 03:12:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjNe9LsYpU4

I was waiting for Hacksaw Jim Duggan to jump up on stage with his 2x4!

The comments on this are great!

USA! USA! USA!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 02, 2012, 09:33:51 PM
I really wanted to put this in the storm thread but brought it here out of a begrudging respect for the apolitical folks.

Watch how Seth Myers just simultaneously hits it out of the part and crushes Jimmy Fallon's spirit on the last part of this clip.
You may wish to queue directly to the key bit: 1:54-the end...

(note: there was no studio audience for this show due to Sandy.)

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/seth-meyers-part-2-102912/1422268/

Now allow me to recap that for you:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcppofQbSg1rwzsbso1_400.gif)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcppofQbSg1rwzsbso2_400.gif)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcppofQbSg1rwzsbso3_400.gif)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcppofQbSg1rwzsbso5_400.gif)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcppofQbSg1rwzsbso6_400.gif)

Allow me to re-paraphrase:
Quote
None of the debates did they mention climate change. And I feel like every six months the worst thing that’s ever happend in the world happens weather-wise. And I feel like we’re going to look back on this time the way baseball fans in the 90s were like “No, nobody’s using steroids.”

We are in the Steroid Era of storms and yet there are more people in Congress who probably think this is because, like, gays are marrying… Than the fact that the world is just dying.

Dark but direct.

A shot of what people might need.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 03, 2012, 02:58:26 PM
Lulz.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/533660_508898439121139_1880847840_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on November 03, 2012, 03:11:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDxOSjgl5Z4
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on November 06, 2012, 01:43:46 PM
LOL

:ducks:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 06, 2012, 01:45:41 PM
Wow.
What a fucking asshole.


Perhaps this here is why RMoney is so confident:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOj2IPulNPA
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on November 06, 2012, 01:46:07 PM
 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 06, 2012, 01:50:48 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/381872_373803306040712_1085754280_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 07, 2012, 08:46:07 AM
Anyone else looking forward to 4 more years of Biden fun???

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/318890_879223057788_1786711790_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 07, 2012, 09:12:33 AM
I think Biden should not run for President of the US after this next term.
I think he should do a reality show or reality-style sitcom where he attends community college and runs for student body president.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on November 07, 2012, 09:39:38 AM
I think Biden should not run for President of the US after this next term.
I think he should do a reality show or reality-style sitcom where he attends community college and runs for student body president.

I'm V00D00BR3W, and I approve this message.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on November 07, 2012, 09:58:38 AM
I think Biden should not run for President of the US after this next term.
I think he should do a reality show or reality-style sitcom where he attends community college and runs for student body president.
In other words, he's Chevy Chase in Community. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 07, 2012, 12:50:56 PM
I think Biden should not run for President of the US after this next term.
I think he should do a reality show or reality-style sitcom where he attends community college and runs for student body president.
In other words, he's Chevy Chase in Community.

Only less bigoty
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on November 07, 2012, 04:44:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0q2eGAjyGg
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: barnesy305 on November 07, 2012, 05:34:50 PM
I think Biden should not run for President of the US after this next term.
I think he should do a reality show or reality-style sitcom where he attends community college and runs for student body president.
In other words, he's Chevy Chase in Community.

Only less bigoty

And he spends most of his day taking gravity bong hits and playing pinball.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 07, 2012, 10:02:11 PM
I think Biden should not run for President of the US after this next term.
I think he should do a reality show or reality-style sitcom where he attends community college and runs for student body president.
In other words, he's Chevy Chase in Community.

Only less bigoty

And he spends most of his day taking gravity bong hits and playing pinball.

Ummm... Who is this sitcom about, again?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: barnesy305 on November 07, 2012, 10:34:39 PM
I think Biden should not run for President of the US after this next term.
I think he should do a reality show or reality-style sitcom where he attends community college and runs for student body president.
In other words, he's Chevy Chase in Community.

Only less bigoty

And he spends most of his day taking gravity bong hits and playing pinball.

Ummm... Who is this sitcom about, again?

Morgan Freeman.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 08, 2012, 06:44:38 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7HqR8KCEAA2GPm.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 08, 2012, 03:21:46 PM
I have a lot of family in the deep South and many of them are very open-minded and liberal (not all, mind you). But this is interesting... makes you think a bit, eh?

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/63089_10151299959267177_1113898282_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on November 08, 2012, 03:32:00 PM
Not really.  As a southern man born and raised, racism is pretty fucking prevalent in most Southern cities.  It's not shocking at all to me that yesterday on fb I saw people referring to Obama as "Curious George." 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: fastfingers12 on November 08, 2012, 03:34:48 PM
Not really.  As a southern man born and raised, racism is pretty fucking prevalent in most Southern cities.  It's not shocking at all to me that yesterday on fb I saw people referring to Obama as "Curious George."
Some people are nuts. A lot of people that I saw on Facebook were talking about moving to Canada, and referring to our president as the anti-christ... Good greif Charlie Brown! 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on November 08, 2012, 03:40:20 PM
Yeah not really a surprise, after living in North Carolina for 4 years. I came to the conclusion that I will never move back to the south and claim that place my home. They just have some backwards non progressive way of life down there.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 08, 2012, 03:53:46 PM
I have a lot of family in the deep South and many of them are very open-minded and liberal (not all, mind you). But this is interesting... makes you think a bit, eh?

But the map looked basically the same in 2004 and 2000. Clinton picked off some and those states (Carter even more) but that's because they were Southerners. And it was completely reversed before JFK/Johnson when most of the South voted Democrat and African Americans were overwhelmingly Republican.

I'm not saying race is not a factor in the Southern vote today (just look at the mini-riot at Ole Miss (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/11/07/university-mississippi-students-riot-obama-election_n_2088176.html)), but I don't think the two maps are all that indicative of anything.

ETA: link
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on November 08, 2012, 04:14:13 PM
It's no wonder the Civil Wars broke up
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on November 08, 2012, 04:55:37 PM
I have a lot of family in the deep South and many of them are very open-minded and liberal (not all, mind you). But this is interesting... makes you think a bit, eh?

But the map looked basically the same in 2004 and 2000. Clinton picked off some and those states (Carter even more) but that's because they were Southerners. And it was completely reversed before JFK/Johnson when most of the South voted Democrat and African Americans were overwhelmingly Republican.

I'm not saying race is not a factor in the Southern vote today (just look at the mini-riot at Ole Miss), but I don't think the two maps are all that indicative of anything.

Mini-riot at Ole Miss?  Are you referring to what happened in the early 60's?  or did I miss something?

Nevermind.  I looked it up.  What a shame......while the south and the rest of the country has made progress, we still have a long way to go. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Guyute on November 08, 2012, 05:07:08 PM
From my walk to work on Wednesday
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 08, 2012, 09:48:59 PM
Silly Republicans

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7MWQWECcAAzKtp.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on November 08, 2012, 11:23:11 PM
I have a lot of family in the deep South and many of them are very open-minded and liberal (not all, mind you). But this is interesting... makes you think a bit, eh?

But the map looked basically the same in 2004 and 2000. Clinton picked off some and those states (Carter even more) but that's because they were Southerners. And it was completely reversed before JFK/Johnson when most of the South voted Democrat and African Americans were overwhelmingly Republican.

I'm not saying race is not a factor in the Southern vote today (just look at the mini-riot at Ole Miss), but I don't think the two maps are all that indicative of anything.

Mini-riot at Ole Miss?  Are you referring to what happened in the early 60's?  or did I miss something?

Nevermind.  I looked it up.  What a shame......while the south and the rest of the country has made progress, we still have a long way to go.


Try living in my state. 

The state and our 3 electoral college votes went to Romney. 

Yet, we re-elected a democratic senator, and elected a new democratic governor. We also elected a new republican representative.   

Our ballot initiatives were just as crazy.  We opted for stricter med mj regulations but overwhelmingly rejected corporate personhood. We also voted to deny state services to illegal immigrants, to require parental notification for minor abortions, and approved a token anti-Affordable Care Act petition.     

We re-elected a democratic secretary of state, elected a democratic state auditor, a republican attorney general, a democratic superintendent of public instruction, and a democratic clerk of supreme court. 

Elections in flyover country can be dynamic and exciting.         
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 09, 2012, 11:23:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVwXA7sHUlE
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: barnesy305 on November 10, 2012, 07:27:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVwXA7sHUlE

When she said the Republicans got shellacked, she got a boner.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: whatthecello42 on November 11, 2012, 01:47:05 PM
http://whitepeoplemourningromney.com
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on November 13, 2012, 11:29:09 PM
(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/1541/52564255548879114443910.jpg)

(http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/ht_simpson_karl_rove_nt_121112_wblog.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on November 14, 2012, 12:44:07 AM
I have a lot of family in the deep South and many of them are very open-minded and liberal (not all, mind you). But this is interesting... makes you think a bit, eh?

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/63089_10151299959267177_1113898282_n.jpg)


Makes me think that the publisher of these two juxtaposed images believes that false dichotomies substitute for real historical analysis. 

For instance, it gives the impression that a state's official legal stance on slavery in 1846 can be correlated with favoring a republican candidate for president in 2012.  Really?  You don't even have to carry a minor in any social science to understand that  bucket has too many holes to dip water from the well.

Secondly, the juxtaposition assumes that the development of political identity, in states west of the Mississippi, conforms to eastern decisions about the state of slavery in the west in 1846, while ignoring local, regional, and supra-regional history.     


It's a catchy info graphic, but not much more than a pretty picture for those with the same artistic taste as the creator.         
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on November 14, 2012, 08:52:45 AM
Nab's pissed you insulted Montana. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on November 14, 2012, 09:02:32 AM
Nab's pissed you insulted Montana.


There is truth here, but insulted isn't really the word.  More like misrepresented western history in order to help draw a false dilemma about eastern history.       


 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 14, 2012, 12:04:23 PM
White southern racists voted for Romney.

There's lots of them in the South rural areas.

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on November 14, 2012, 05:50:44 PM
I have a lot of family in the deep South and many of them are very open-minded and liberal (not all, mind you). But this is interesting... makes you think a bit, eh?

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/63089_10151299959267177_1113898282_n.jpg)


Makes me think that the publisher of these two juxtaposed images believes that false dichotomies substitute for real historical analysis. 

For instance, it gives the impression that a state's official legal stance on slavery in 1846 can be correlated with favoring a republican candidate for president in 2012.  Really?  You don't even have to carry a minor in any social science to understand that  bucket has too many holes to dip water from the well.

Secondly, the juxtaposition assumes that the development of political identity, in states west of the Mississippi, conforms to eastern decisions about the state of slavery in the west in 1846, while ignoring local, regional, and supra-regional history.     


It's a catchy info graphic, but not much more than a pretty picture for those with the same artistic taste as the creator.         


Really? One might suggest that you're the one who has emotionally extrapolated to the extreme. For example, the map could have easily been interpreted as simply highlighting an America divided along a demarcated fault line that has not shifted in nearly two centuries. This, regardless of the political issues of the day.

Pompous PhD response......sadly, 1st year university logic. (sorry Bud, someone had to)   
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on November 14, 2012, 06:29:33 PM
I have a lot of family in the deep South and many of them are very open-minded and liberal (not all, mind you). But this is interesting... makes you think a bit, eh?

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/63089_10151299959267177_1113898282_n.jpg)


Makes me think that the publisher of these two juxtaposed images believes that false dichotomies substitute for real historical analysis. 

For instance, it gives the impression that a state's official legal stance on slavery in 1846 can be correlated with favoring a republican candidate for president in 2012.  Really?  You don't even have to carry a minor in any social science to understand that  bucket has too many holes to dip water from the well.

Secondly, the juxtaposition assumes that the development of political identity, in states west of the Mississippi, conforms to eastern decisions about the state of slavery in the west in 1846, while ignoring local, regional, and supra-regional history.     


It's a catchy info graphic, but not much more than a pretty picture for those with the same artistic taste as the creator.         


Really? One might suggest that you're the one who has emotionally extrapolated to the extreme. For example, the map could have easily been interpreted as simply highlighting an America divided along a demarcated fault line that has not shifted in nearly two centuries. This, regardless of the political issues of the day.

Pompous PhD response......sadly, 1st year university logic. (sorry Bud, someone had to)


You can pretend that interpret this info graphic applies to any political issue on any day, but that is not what is presented here.  We are presented with one data point relating to the 2012 election and another dealing with a state/territory breakdown of the legal standing of slavery in 1846.  Then we are asked to make some broad comparison between the two images.   

That you make the valid generalization that this info graphic could apply to any issue on any day, doesn't undermine my valid observation that the state of slavery in 1846 isn't necessary a predictor of state election returns in 2012, especially in states west of the Mississippi.       

You have raised a valid point though, perhaps I should have left out the ad hominem language attacking the creator of the info graphic as it undermines my point making it seem emotional.  Perhaps you could exercise the same professional courtesy.             


Edit:  Upon further review, this is a better way to say what I meant.  Your interpretation is valid and not pretend. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on November 14, 2012, 08:17:04 PM
Has anybody called you guys fags yet?  USA USA USA

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on November 14, 2012, 11:28:43 PM
Has anybody called you guys fags yet?  USA USA USA


Let's see, I was an awkward poor kid at a school full of rich kids, I couldn't play sports, and wrote poetry.


Nope.  You're the first!











Thanks for the comic relief though.   
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on November 15, 2012, 12:05:19 AM
For your entertainment:

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: twatts on November 15, 2012, 12:54:46 AM
For your entertainment:

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/

White people make me laugh...

Terry
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 15, 2012, 01:06:14 AM
I have a lot of family in the deep South and many of them are very open-minded and liberal (not all, mind you). But this is interesting... makes you think a bit, eh?

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/63089_10151299959267177_1113898282_n.jpg)


Makes me think that the publisher of these two juxtaposed images believes that false dichotomies substitute for real historical analysis. 

For instance, it gives the impression that a state's official legal stance on slavery in 1846 can be correlated with favoring a republican candidate for president in 2012.  Really?  You don't even have to carry a minor in any social science to understand that  bucket has too many holes to dip water from the well.

Secondly, the juxtaposition assumes that the development of political identity, in states west of the Mississippi, conforms to eastern decisions about the state of slavery in the west in 1846, while ignoring local, regional, and supra-regional history.     


It's a catchy info graphic, but not much more than a pretty picture for those with the same artistic taste as the creator.         


Really? One might suggest that you're the one who has emotionally extrapolated to the extreme. For example, the map could have easily been interpreted as simply highlighting an America divided along a demarcated fault line that has not shifted in nearly two centuries. This, regardless of the political issues of the day.

Pompous PhD response......sadly, 1st year university logic. (sorry Bud, someone had to)

That may be an equally valid interpretation, but I'd suggest it's a rather naive one (perhaps intentionally so). The implication of showing those two maps next to each other is pretty clear IMO: that lasting racial biases are the dominant influence the voting patterns in the South, at least in the election/re-election of the first black president. And on this basis, I agree with nab that this is a false dichotomy that grossly misrepresents the issues that voters in various regions of the country consider. For example, I would argue that Southern voters influenced by religious issues far outweigh those who are motivated by racial ones.

And while I agree there has been little cultural shift along these fault lines, the electoral ramifications are far more complicated which was, again, IMO clearly the intent of A/B'ing the two charts. In that respect, the original image tells us no more than these two:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/ElectoralCollege1976.svg/350px-ElectoralCollege1976.svg.png)
(http://www.learner.org/biographyofamerica/prog10/maps/images/map_10_a.gif)


For your entertainment:

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/

Oh, GAH
 :shakehead:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 15, 2012, 08:01:28 AM
Also, it bears noting that the electoral infographic is incomplete as the racists in FLA went blue.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 15, 2012, 08:15:25 AM
I have a lot of family in the deep South and many of them are very open-minded and liberal (not all, mind you). But this is interesting... makes you think a bit, eh?

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/63089_10151299959267177_1113898282_n.jpg)


Makes me think that the publisher of these two juxtaposed images believes that false dichotomies substitute for real historical analysis. 

For instance, it gives the impression that a state's official legal stance on slavery in 1846 can be correlated with favoring a republican candidate for president in 2012.  Really?  You don't even have to carry a minor in any social science to understand that  bucket has too many holes to dip water from the well.

Secondly, the juxtaposition assumes that the development of political identity, in states west of the Mississippi, conforms to eastern decisions about the state of slavery in the west in 1846, while ignoring local, regional, and supra-regional history.     


It's a catchy info graphic, but not much more than a pretty picture for those with the same artistic taste as the creator.         


Really? One might suggest that you're the one who has emotionally extrapolated to the extreme. For example, the map could have easily been interpreted as simply highlighting an America divided along a demarcated fault line that has not shifted in nearly two centuries. This, regardless of the political issues of the day.

Pompous PhD response......sadly, 1st year university logic. (sorry Bud, someone had to)

That may be an equally valid interpretation, but I'd suggest it's a rather naive one (perhaps intentionally so). The implication of showing those two maps next to each other is pretty clear IMO: that lasting racial biases are the dominant influence the voting patterns in the South, at least in the election/re-election of the first black president. And on this basis, I agree with nab that this is a false dichotomy that grossly misrepresents the issues that voters in various regions of the country consider. For example, I would argue that Southern voters influenced by religious issues far outweigh those who are motivated by racial ones.

And while I agree there has been little cultural shift along these fault lines, the electoral ramifications are far more complicated which was, again, IMO clearly the intent of A/B'ing the two charts. In that respect, the original image tells us no more than these two:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/ElectoralCollege1976.svg/350px-ElectoralCollege1976.svg.png)
(http://www.learner.org/biographyofamerica/prog10/maps/images/map_10_a.gif)


Everyone knows that before Nixon, the south went for Dems all the back to the Civil War. Reagan fully realized he could win the South by turning those Southern whites into "values voters."  That is why he launched his campaign in 1980 in philadelphia Miss. with a speech about states rights. He was, not so subtly, reaching out to that racist core. That has been the Repub strategy ever since.

If you don't think Jim Crowe laws in place recently enough that even my mother remembers using "whites-only" restrooms are still affecting the way people vote, you are naive.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 15, 2012, 08:28:03 AM
I have a lot of family in the deep South and many of them are very open-minded and liberal (not all, mind you). But this is interesting... makes you think a bit, eh?

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/63089_10151299959267177_1113898282_n.jpg)


Makes me think that the publisher of these two juxtaposed images believes that false dichotomies substitute for real historical analysis. 

For instance, it gives the impression that a state's official legal stance on slavery in 1846 can be correlated with favoring a republican candidate for president in 2012.  Really?  You don't even have to carry a minor in any social science to understand that  bucket has too many holes to dip water from the well.

Secondly, the juxtaposition assumes that the development of political identity, in states west of the Mississippi, conforms to eastern decisions about the state of slavery in the west in 1846, while ignoring local, regional, and supra-regional history.     


It's a catchy info graphic, but not much more than a pretty picture for those with the same artistic taste as the creator.         


Really? One might suggest that you're the one who has emotionally extrapolated to the extreme. For example, the map could have easily been interpreted as simply highlighting an America divided along a demarcated fault line that has not shifted in nearly two centuries. This, regardless of the political issues of the day.

Pompous PhD response......sadly, 1st year university logic. (sorry Bud, someone had to)

That may be an equally valid interpretation, but I'd suggest it's a rather naive one (perhaps intentionally so). The implication of showing those two maps next to each other is pretty clear IMO: that lasting racial biases are the dominant influence the voting patterns in the South, at least in the election/re-election of the first black president. And on this basis, I agree with nab that this is a false dichotomy that grossly misrepresents the issues that voters in various regions of the country consider. For example, I would argue that Southern voters influenced by religious issues far outweigh those who are motivated by racial ones.

And while I agree there has been little cultural shift along these fault lines, the electoral ramifications are far more complicated which was, again, IMO clearly the intent of A/B'ing the two charts. In that respect, the original image tells us no more than these two:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/ElectoralCollege1976.svg/350px-ElectoralCollege1976.svg.png)
(http://www.learner.org/biographyofamerica/prog10/maps/images/map_10_a.gif)


Everyone knows that before Nixon, the south went for Dems all the back to the Civil War. Reagan fully realized he could win the South by turning those Southern whites into "values voters."  That is why he launched his campaign in 1980 in philadelphia Miss. with a speech about states rights. He was, not so subtly, reaching out to that racist core. That has been the Repub strategy ever since.

If you don't think Jim Crowe laws in place recently enough that even my mother remembers using "whites-only" restrooms are still affecting the way people vote, you are naive.


My mother can recall playing with the little black girl from down the road when visiting her grandmother's house in Alabama. That little girl was a fine playmate for a 6yo but, according to great-grandma, she was not welcome at the table for lunch.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on November 15, 2012, 10:23:21 AM
Has anybody called you guys fags yet?  USA USA USA


Let's see, I was an awkward poor kid at a school full of rich kids, I couldn't play sports, and wrote poetry.


Nope.  You're the first!











Thanks for the comic relief though.

Just letting my red-state-ness show.
/Murica
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 15, 2012, 11:23:08 AM
Everyone knows that before Nixon, the south went for Dems all the back to the Civil War. Reagan fully realized he could win the South by turning those Southern whites into "values voters."  That is why he launched his campaign in 1980 in philadelphia Miss. with a speech about states rights. He was, not so subtly, reaching out to that racist core. That has been the Repub strategy ever since.

If you don't think Jim Crowe laws in place recently enough that even my mother remembers using "whites-only" restrooms are still affecting the way people vote, you are naive.

I know the idea that Reagan was trying to appease the "racist core" by uttering that malicious phrase "states rights" is accepted doctrine on the left, but I really don't understand this. But while I had read what people on both sides have said about the speech and the implications of saying "states rights" given the history, I had never actually seen or read the speech. So I did (http://neshobademocrat.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=297&ArticleID=15599&TM=60417.67). And I gotta say, I don't see anything even remotely racist in this speech. It wasn't even a speech focusing on states rights; he only said the words once and they were mentioned in the context of the failings of overarching federal bureaucracy, not as support for discrimination and certainly not as an appeal to a "racist core".

Look, I'm no Reagan-ite. For all of his worship in the GOP right now, people seem to forget that he raised taxes (twice), tripled the deficit, and oversaw a massive increase in federal spending and in the size and scope of gov't. But saying that he was appealing to Southern racists because he thought that the federal gov't had exceeded it's authority just doesn't add up to me. YMMV

As for the legacy of Jim Crowe and racism in the South, as I said earlier, I agree it influences some people's vote (and a diminishing number at that), I just don't believe it is THE reason why the South is so red, especially given the map has looked virtually the same with our first black president as it did in the 7 prior all white dude elections.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on November 15, 2012, 03:19:02 PM
Cmon now are you really trying to tell me that this:

(http://politicalmaps.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/electoral-1996-s.jpg)

And this:

(http://media2.abc15.com//photo/2012/11/12/map_20121112143528_640_480.JPG)

Are "virtually identical" in regards to the Southern vote?

Even if we don't count Missouri it's a difference of +26 electoral votes for Clinton.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on November 16, 2012, 08:43:32 AM
Everyone knows that before Nixon, the south went for Dems all the back to the Civil War. Reagan fully realized he could win the South by turning those Southern whites into "values voters."  That is why he launched his campaign in 1980 in philadelphia Miss. with a speech about states rights. He was, not so subtly, reaching out to that racist core. That has been the Repub strategy ever since.

If you don't think Jim Crowe laws in place recently enough that even my mother remembers using "whites-only" restrooms are still affecting the way people vote, you are naive.

I know the idea that Reagan was trying to appease the "racist core" by uttering that malicious phrase "states rights" is accepted doctrine on the left, but I really don't understand this. But while I had read what people on both sides have said about the speech and the implications of saying "states rights" given the history, I had never actually seen or read the speech. So I did (http://neshobademocrat.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=297&ArticleID=15599&TM=60417.67). And I gotta say, I don't see anything even remotely racist in this speech. It wasn't even a speech focusing on states rights; he only said the words once and they were mentioned in the context of the failings of overarching federal bureaucracy, not as support for discrimination and certainly not as an appeal to a "racist core".

Look, I'm no Reagan-ite. For all of his worship in the GOP right now, people seem to forget that he raised taxes (twice), tripled the deficit, and oversaw a massive increase in federal spending and in the size and scope of gov't. But saying that he was appealing to Southern racists because he thought that the federal gov't had exceeded it's authority just doesn't add up to me. YMMV

As for the legacy of Jim Crowe and racism in the South, as I said earlier, I agree it influences some people's vote (and a diminishing number at that), I just don't believe it is THE reason why the South is so red, especially given the map has looked virtually the same with our first black president as it did in the 7 prior all white dude elections.

Reagan's political fortune grew enormously from his embrace of the Southern Strategy first employed by Nixon's presidential campaign--lots of systematically coded racial messaging, designed to exploit two generations of resentment among white Southerners over the successes of the Civil Rights movement. Whatever the details of his using the particular phrase "states' rights" in a particular speech, it's a well-documented historical fact. Reagan the man was was relatively moderate on social issues--he came out of Hollywood after all--but in his national political career he made huge overtures to social conservatives, regardless of whether their motivations were primarily race or religion. And for forty years, this strategy worked for the Republican party; demographics are making it less effective now.

I agree that race isn't the only factor motivating the Southern electorate. But as Hicks' comparison implies, and I think we all can agree, the 2008 and 2012 elections, not to mention the first term of our first black President, were marked by much greater racial animus--overt and ignorant, sly and evil, whatever--than other recent national campaigns. And I think it's impossible to talk sensibly about US politics without considering race.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 16, 2012, 10:28:02 PM
Are "virtually identical" in regards to the Southern vote?

Even if we don't count Missouri it's a difference of +26 electoral votes for Clinton.

Sure, you could cherry pick the outlier and say there's a drastic difference, but that wouldn't really disprove my point. Take out Clinton, and Dems had a total of 54 EVs in 5 elections in the "slave states" (Carter=28, Dukakis=6 and Gore & Kerry=10 each); Obama outperformed this total winning 65 in 2008 and 52 this year. And Clinton's 2 elections were themselves untraditional given the two Southerns on the D ticket and the amount of support Perot drew, especially in '92.

Also (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/virtually):

Quote
vir·tu·al·ly  (vûrch--l) adv.
1. In fact or to all purposes; practically: The city was virtually paralyzed by the transit strike.
2. Almost but not quite; nearly: "Virtually everyone gets a headache now and then"

Reagan's political fortune grew enormously from his embrace of the Southern Strategy first employed by Nixon's presidential campaign--lots of systematically coded racial messaging, designed to exploit two generations of resentment among white Southerners over the successes of the Civil Rights movement. Whatever the details of his using the particular phrase "states' rights" in a particular speech, it's a well-documented historical fact. Reagan the man was was relatively moderate on social issues--he came out of Hollywood after all--but in his national political career he made huge overtures to social conservatives, regardless of whether their motivations were primarily race or religion. And for forty years, this strategy worked for the Republican party; demographics are making it less effective now.

Well, my response was directed to the specific Neshoba County Fair speech, so that's what I was responding to. But I would take issue with saying Reagan's coded racism was "well-documented historical fact." IMO, that's not entirely accurate. I mean, I know that may be the case in the socialist, Saul Alinsky, redistribution-loving circles you run in, sunrise, but I think you'd find some conservative historians who would take issue with that statement. :wink:

I agree that race isn't the only factor motivating the Southern electorate. But as Hicks' comparison implies, and I think we all can agree, the 2008 and 2012 elections, not to mention the first term of our first black President, were marked by much greater racial animus--overt and ignorant, sly and evil, whatever--than other recent national campaigns. And I think it's impossible to talk sensibly about US politics without considering race.

I agree with this 100%. Not the middle so much, but the first and last sentences are dead on.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 17, 2012, 11:33:25 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/60785_557401187619866_895772817_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on November 17, 2012, 11:48:02 PM
if you actually order papa johns pizza there's no hope for you anyway.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on November 18, 2012, 01:09:22 AM

Also (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/virtually):

Quote
vir·tu·al·ly  (vûrch--l) adv.
1. In fact or to all purposes; practically: The city was virtually paralyzed by the transit strike.
2. Almost but not quite; nearly: "Virtually everyone gets a headache now and then"
Quoting dictionary definitions now are we?

You're still pretty butthurt about the cognitive dissonance that the Obama win created in your psyche aren't you?

In any event if two out of eight (1992 and 1996) is 25% that ain't "outliers". 

Also, Dukakis lol, dude couldn't even win places like California and Connecticut so of course he wasn't gonna take the South.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 18, 2012, 12:49:03 PM
You're still pretty butthurt about the cognitive dissonance that the Obama win created in your psyche aren't you?

Dude, you've been reading too much Daily Kos.

Here's something that'll blow your "I vote one-party no matter what" mind, Hicks: I wanted Obama to win. You probably won't believe that and that's fine, but I am being 100% straight with you when I tell you I am glad he won. Sure, in the short term I have to deal with the collective smugness of the left, but that's a relatively minor annoyance. In the long term, Obama's re-election will be far better for the principles I believe in than a Romney win would have been. I mean, of course I did want to see ObamaCare repealed and serious entitlement reform and spending reductions enacted, but as I said (quite repeatedly) Romney was not going to do any of those things anyway. But 4 more yrs of recession/stagflation and unrestrained spending might just be enough to make people realize that Keynesian stimulus and unsustainable fiscal policy is no way to run a country.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on November 19, 2012, 09:22:24 AM
Can't we all just boof a sheet and beat up some midget hookers now that the election is over? 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on November 19, 2012, 11:14:27 AM
Reagan's political fortune grew enormously from his embrace of the Southern Strategy first employed by Nixon's presidential campaign--lots of systematically coded racial messaging, designed to exploit two generations of resentment among white Southerners over the successes of the Civil Rights movement. Whatever the details of his using the particular phrase "states' rights" in a particular speech, it's a well-documented historical fact. Reagan the man was was relatively moderate on social issues--he came out of Hollywood after all--but in his national political career he made huge overtures to social conservatives, regardless of whether their motivations were primarily race or religion. And for forty years, this strategy worked for the Republican party; demographics are making it less effective now.

Well, my response was directed to the specific Neshoba County Fair speech, so that's what I was responding to. But I would take issue with saying Reagan's coded racism was "well-documented historical fact." IMO, that's not entirely accurate. I mean, I know that may be the case in the socialist, Saul Alinsky, redistribution-loving circles you run in, sunrise, but I think you'd find some conservative historians who would take issue with that statement. :wink:

Yeah, I can't wait to hear how they they take issue with one of their patron saints, Lee Atwater, fucking explaining it back in 1981:

http://front.moveon.org/just-released-audio-of-former-reaganbush-advisor-lays-out-how-gop-planned-to-win-the-votes-of-racists/ (http://front.moveon.org/just-released-audio-of-former-reaganbush-advisor-lays-out-how-gop-planned-to-win-the-votes-of-racists/)

Brought to you k/o the filthy liberal den of MoveOn. Also true and relevant.

I agree that race isn't the only factor motivating the Southern electorate. But as Hicks' comparison implies, and I think we all can agree, the 2008 and 2012 elections, not to mention the first term of our first black President, were marked by much greater racial animus--overt and ignorant, sly and evil, whatever--than other recent national campaigns. And I think it's impossible to talk sensibly about US politics without considering race.

I agree with this 100%. Not the middle so much, but the first and last sentences are dead on.

I take that to mean you agree with me 100%, as you should.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on November 20, 2012, 12:09:20 AM
This is a new map to me tonight:


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KQ_Qh60WcwA/T4OfimVs9kI/AAAAAAAABSs/1GkxUoOpFRU/s1600/ColinWoodard_AmericanNations_map.JPG)


Broad descriptions published by Bloomberg can be found here (too long to copy):

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-29/real-u-s-map-a-country-of-regions-part-1-commentary-by-colin-woodard.html

And the long form can be found in the book, published last year, previewed here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=Sb40EosBr90C&printsec=frontcover&dq=American+Nations:+A+History+of+the+Eleven+Rival+Regional+Cultures+of+North+America&hl=en&sa=X&ei=DQ2rUIevA6muigKA44HwDA&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA


The descriptions of regions in the Bloomberg article seem a little simplistic, so I'm gonna put the book on my reading list.

However, at first glance, I think that the map provides an interesting picture of the American cultural landscape, even if it still does so at the expense of still marginalizing individual cultural expression, although at a smaller scale, than red state/blue state comparisons.   

Has anyone else encountered this map and run into any fine grained criticism of the map/book?  I'd be interested in hearing any counterpoints.  Initial google searches haven't produced any meaningful criticism, but I may just be sucking at google tonight.   
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 20, 2012, 06:45:09 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/4pHRf.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on November 26, 2012, 05:07:11 PM
This is pretty sweet!  Nice to see Fox does their homework!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMZgxeoDLPI

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/11/tom-ricks-fox-news-asked-my-opinion-and-i-gave-it-150300.html
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on November 27, 2012, 09:13:59 AM
This is pretty sweet!  Nice to see Fox does their homework!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMZgxeoDLPI

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/11/tom-ricks-fox-news-asked-my-opinion-and-i-gave-it-150300.html

lol, served.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 27, 2012, 09:24:38 AM
lol, served.

That was awesome.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on November 27, 2012, 02:20:30 PM
Ha! Last time they invite him on!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on November 28, 2012, 12:42:32 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2012/11/27/tom-ricks-to-msnbc-youre-just-like-fox-only-not-as-good-at-it/?hpid=z5

Quote
When I talked to him Tuesday, he said yeah, actually, he had had some other TV invites, but we shouldn’t waste too much time clicking around looking for his next appearance: “MSNBC invited me, but I said, ‘You’re just like Fox, but not as good at it.’ They wrote back and said, ‘Thank you for your candor.’”
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on November 28, 2012, 08:30:14 PM
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3442/a8prgocyaeeogyjpglarge.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on November 29, 2012, 10:20:54 AM
^^^ Whytf do people care about that guys damn pledge so much? How did he get so much power?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: twatts on November 29, 2012, 11:00:17 AM
^^^ Whytf do people care about that guys damn pledge so much? How did he get so much power?

What do you mean???  His power is derived from The People/the GOP electorate...  He would be a meaningless bag-o-doosh but for those people that listen to him and vote accordingly...  Doesn't mean he is "right" or that the voters are "educated", but that is how the popularity contest we call "the elections" works... 

Terry
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on November 29, 2012, 11:18:12 AM
^^^ Whytf do people care about that guys damn pledge so much? How did he get so much power?

What do you mean???  His power is derived from The People/the GOP electorate...  He would be a meaningless bag-o-doosh but for those people that listen to him and vote accordingly...  Doesn't mean he is "right" or that the voters are "educated", but that is how the popularity contest we call "the elections" works... 

Terry

Well thats what I mean, I don't know that he's exactly done anything of particular significance prior to be elevated to this level of power. It's not like he was some astounding Governor or Congressman. So I don't get it. But I guess that's what happens when you're dealing with sheeple.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: twatts on November 29, 2012, 01:08:09 PM
^^^ Whytf do people care about that guys damn pledge so much? How did he get so much power?

What do you mean???  His power is derived from The People/the GOP electorate...  He would be a meaningless bag-o-doosh but for those people that listen to him and vote accordingly...  Doesn't mean he is "right" or that the voters are "educated", but that is how the popularity contest we call "the elections" works... 

Terry

Well thats what I mean, I don't know that he's exactly done anything of particular significance prior to be elevated to this level of power. It's not like he was some astounding Governor or Congressman. So I don't get it. But I guess that's what happens when you're dealing with sheeple.

"Significance"...  I guess it depends on your perspective, but he has done a lot for "conservatives".  But yeah, "sheeple"...

Terry
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on November 29, 2012, 08:15:16 PM
Fiscal Cliff Deal compared to Phish show on MSNBC
http://youtu.be/vje5XJ1LY5w
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 30, 2012, 01:07:31 PM
That one dude needs to lose the hat. What a stupid look when you're sitting inside on a panel discussion show.
We all know you're bald, dude.
Fiscal Cliff Deal compared to Phish show on MSNBC
http://youtu.be/vje5XJ1LY5w
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on November 30, 2012, 01:44:12 PM
That one dude needs to lose the hat. What a stupid look when you're sitting inside on a panel discussion show.
We all know you're bald, dude.
Fiscal Cliff Deal compared to Phish show on MSNBC
http://youtu.be/vje5XJ1LY5w

Perhaps he's a member of the tribe?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 30, 2012, 02:05:22 PM
That one dude needs to lose the hat. What a stupid look when you're sitting inside on a panel discussion show.
We all know you're bald, dude.
Fiscal Cliff Deal compared to Phish show on MSNBC
http://youtu.be/vje5XJ1LY5w

Perhaps he's a member of the tribe?

Is a poorly fitted, precariously perched, fedora a requirement of any particular sect?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 30, 2012, 04:12:48 PM
Pretty sure that's Politico reporter Glen Thrush and the fedora is part of his shtick. Even his byline caricature has that stupid thing.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ss6rD6lZeog/SaQ2OGpj2-I/AAAAAAAABQ8/4ff-9FHM518/s400/headerlarge_glennthrush.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on November 30, 2012, 04:51:35 PM
What did she mean "I hope nobody gets that reference"

 :-o
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: barnesy305 on December 01, 2012, 02:10:42 AM
What did she mean "I hope nobody gets that reference"

 :-o

I think it means that instead of degenerate stoners, she hopes her audience is like her. In that they pissed in the trash can in the bathroom at a Dave Matthews Band show.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on December 03, 2012, 08:49:08 AM
Pretty sure that's Politico reporter Glen Thrush and the fedora is part of his shtick. Even his byline caricature has that stupid thing.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ss6rD6lZeog/SaQ2OGpj2-I/AAAAAAAABQ8/4ff-9FHM518/s400/headerlarge_glennthrush.jpg)

I stand by my position that he looks like an ass.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sophist on December 03, 2012, 09:35:11 AM
You have to watch the video a second time to catch it, but you'll hear, "there is more speed and cocaine in congress than acid on a phish lot."
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on December 03, 2012, 12:35:29 PM
Pretty sure that's Politico reporter Glen Thrush and the fedora is part of his shtick. Even his byline caricature has that stupid thing.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ss6rD6lZeog/SaQ2OGpj2-I/AAAAAAAABQ8/4ff-9FHM518/s400/headerlarge_glennthrush.jpg)

What, he couldn't be bothered to write PRESS on a big card and stick it to his hat?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on December 13, 2012, 01:24:46 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/23760_10150992174817325_1873732893_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on December 15, 2012, 02:33:38 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/23760_10150992174817325_1873732893_n.jpg)

Yep.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on December 17, 2012, 07:12:56 PM
yesterday...

(http://i.imgur.com/pvlF6.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/OQkXB.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/NSDOW.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on December 17, 2012, 07:26:08 PM
^^^ :shakehead:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on December 17, 2012, 07:57:13 PM
^^^ :shakehead:
disgusting
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on December 17, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
are these guys watching the Canadian football League or what?  :wtu:


/deleted my previous comment for potential offensiveness.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on December 17, 2012, 10:18:39 PM
um - wow.

 :shakehead:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on December 17, 2012, 10:25:19 PM
NFL! NFL! NF-----I mean, USA! USA! USA!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Guyute on December 21, 2012, 12:00:32 PM
You have to watch the video a second time to catch it, but you'll hear, "there is more speed and cocaine in congress than acid on a phish lot."

I thought that was what they said, but didn't go back to listen.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on January 06, 2013, 11:12:21 PM
Harry Reid is approaching Biden-esque levels of foot-in-mouth disease with this one

http://youtu.be/YObCx5v_G3M
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on January 10, 2013, 12:54:29 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/MD7kF.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on January 22, 2013, 10:18:50 PM
Currently airing on PBS, The Untouchables

Quote
FRONTLINE investigates why Wall Street’s leaders have escaped prosecution for any fraud related to the sale of bad mortgages.

Right out of the gate with the scumbags at Countrywide. Fucking awesome/depressing.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/untouchables/
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on January 22, 2013, 10:22:38 PM
Currently airing on PBS, The Untouchables

Quote
FRONTLINE investigates why Wall Street’s leaders have escaped prosecution for any fraud related to the sale of bad mortgages.

Right out of the gate with the scumbags at Countrywide. Fucking awesome/depressing.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/untouchables/

Leave it to socialized television to attack the Job Creators like that! Bah!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on January 23, 2013, 09:27:39 AM
Currently airing on PBS, The Untouchables

Quote
FRONTLINE investigates why Wall Street’s leaders have escaped prosecution for any fraud related to the sale of bad mortgages.

Right out of the gate with the scumbags at Countrywide. Fucking awesome/depressing.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/untouchables/

Leave it to socialized television to attack the Job Creators like that! Bah!

Frontline is definitely a part of the liberal media bias. They really should leave those poor guys alone.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on January 23, 2013, 09:32:29 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Az3Ar.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/1UTK8.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on January 23, 2013, 10:41:48 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Az3Ar.gif)

That is dangerously spot-on. The other day at the gym, some people started to bitch about Obama, and they began to blame him for the rise in the payroll tax, and I kid you not, one woman went right into complaining about the price of mayonnaise.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on January 23, 2013, 10:46:41 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Az3Ar.gif)

That is dangerously spot-on. The other day at the gym, some people started to bitch about Obama, and they began to blame him for the rise in the payroll tax, and I kid you not, one woman went right into complaining about the price of mayonnaise.

QFT! I switched to miracle whip.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on January 23, 2013, 11:27:00 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/T9hxwtF.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/xdob6xa.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/ebebP.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/r3FFD.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/KK9lE.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/0LbnH.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/Xrt85.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/YV6us4L.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/fd0rT.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/IQUni.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/mXYN8.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/NngZP.gif)


(http://i.minus.com/i5guEyZABQwQC.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on January 23, 2013, 12:52:57 PM
I thought we were still blaming bush for everything?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on January 23, 2013, 01:22:53 PM
I thought we were still blaming bush for everything?

I blame Clinton.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on January 23, 2013, 03:55:09 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/T9hxwtF.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/xdob6xa.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/ebebP.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/r3FFD.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/KK9lE.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/0LbnH.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/Xrt85.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/YV6us4L.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/fd0rT.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/IQUni.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/mXYN8.gif)


(http://i.imgur.com/NngZP.gif)


(http://i.minus.com/i5guEyZABQwQC.gif)

THIS IS OBAMA'S AMERICA!!!!!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on February 07, 2013, 11:05:09 AM
Stewart abuses Obama's Flaming Death from Above program and the hypocrisy of "the most transparent administration in history"

Part 1 (http://shar.es/YWcXB)

Part 2 (http://shar.es/YWcDG)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on February 15, 2013, 11:31:28 AM
love this...

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/557912_10151422167484660_759220404_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 11, 2013, 08:06:42 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/xI7p54i.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on March 15, 2013, 11:51:48 AM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/5389_10151358188798269_1679709681_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on March 26, 2013, 10:06:23 PM
This is making the rounds on the facebooks.....  Thought it was pretty funny/clever
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on April 06, 2013, 09:50:06 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/535947_285905201542665_1518563619_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on April 19, 2013, 12:16:46 PM
my thoughts exactly...

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/529449_520523701338113_1435022127_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on June 13, 2013, 02:13:39 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/996172_533339760056931_1072473379_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: twatts on June 13, 2013, 02:27:22 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/996172_533339760056931_1072473379_n.jpg)

Down is the new up...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on June 13, 2013, 03:11:09 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/996172_533339760056931_1072473379_n.jpg)

Here's a fun video mashup that expands on that. Hannity is a shit-for-brains hack, no doubt about it.

http://youtu.be/t27ie4qFlXM (http://youtu.be/t27ie4qFlXM)

But he's not the only one who's waffled on this. No less a stalwart liberal outpost than the Daily Kos has pointed out (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/13/1215938/-Democratic-partisans-have-no-right-to-criticize-Hannity-s-shameless-hypocrisy) how opinion among Democrats on the NSA monitoring program shifted from when it was happening under Bush to now under Obama.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on June 13, 2013, 06:26:29 PM
But he's not the only one who's waffled on this. No less a stalwart liberal outpost than the Daily Kos has pointed out (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/13/1215938/-Democratic-partisans-have-no-right-to-criticize-Hannity-s-shameless-hypocrisy) how opinion among Democrats on the NSA monitoring program shifted from when it was happening under Bush to now under Obama.

This (http://www.people-press.org/2013/06/10/majority-views-nsa-phone-tracking-as-acceptable-anti-terror-tactic/)

(http://www.people-press.org/files/2013/06/6-10-13-4.png)

Hannity is a shit-for-brains hack, no doubt about it.

That
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Guyute on June 14, 2013, 10:11:45 AM
But he's not the only one who's waffled on this. No less a stalwart liberal outpost than the Daily Kos has pointed out (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/13/1215938/-Democratic-partisans-have-no-right-to-criticize-Hannity-s-shameless-hypocrisy) how opinion among Democrats on the NSA monitoring program shifted from when it was happening under Bush to now under Obama.

This (http://www.people-press.org/2013/06/10/majority-views-nsa-phone-tracking-as-acceptable-anti-terror-tactic/)

(http://www.people-press.org/files/2013/06/6-10-13-4.png)

Hannity is a shit-for-brains hack, no doubt about it.

That

Because people can't think for themselves, sheep.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mehead on June 14, 2013, 09:22:57 PM
But he's not the only one who's waffled on this. No less a stalwart liberal outpost than the Daily Kos has pointed out (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/13/1215938/-Democratic-partisans-have-no-right-to-criticize-Hannity-s-shameless-hypocrisy) how opinion among Democrats on the NSA monitoring program shifted from when it was happening under Bush to now under Obama.

This (http://www.people-press.org/2013/06/10/majority-views-nsa-phone-tracking-as-acceptable-anti-terror-tactic/)

(http://www.people-press.org/files/2013/06/6-10-13-4.png)

Hannity is a shit-for-brains hack, no doubt about it.

That

Because people can't think for themselves, sheep.

Because people are fucking stupid. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on June 14, 2013, 09:39:23 PM
But he's not the only one who's waffled on this. No less a stalwart liberal outpost than the Daily Kos has pointed out (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/13/1215938/-Democratic-partisans-have-no-right-to-criticize-Hannity-s-shameless-hypocrisy) how opinion among Democrats on the NSA monitoring program shifted from when it was happening under Bush to now under Obama.

This (http://www.people-press.org/2013/06/10/majority-views-nsa-phone-tracking-as-acceptable-anti-terror-tactic/)

(http://www.people-press.org/files/2013/06/6-10-13-4.png)

Hannity is a shit-for-brains hack, no doubt about it.

That

Because people can't think for themselves, sheep.

Because people are fucking stupid.

This begs the question however, why is this being reported as news, and a huge leak, when this was already knowledge in 2006, thus that poll, and this....

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/17/domesticspying.lawsuit/

this

(http://i.imgur.com/xlkTS3t.jpg)

and this from 2006

(http://i.imgur.com/L6652CB.jpg)

and the other countless articles about it from 2006?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on June 14, 2013, 10:58:46 PM
But he's not the only one who's waffled on this. No less a stalwart liberal outpost than the Daily Kos has pointed out (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/13/1215938/-Democratic-partisans-have-no-right-to-criticize-Hannity-s-shameless-hypocrisy) how opinion among Democrats on the NSA monitoring program shifted from when it was happening under Bush to now under Obama.

This (http://www.people-press.org/2013/06/10/majority-views-nsa-phone-tracking-as-acceptable-anti-terror-tactic/)

(http://www.people-press.org/files/2013/06/6-10-13-4.png)

Hannity is a shit-for-brains hack, no doubt about it.

That

Because people can't think for themselves, sheep.

Because people are fucking stupid.

This begs the question however, why is this being reported as news, and a huge leak, when this was already knowledge in 2006, thus that poll, and this....

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/17/domesticspying.lawsuit/

this

(http://i.imgur.com/xlkTS3t.jpg)

and this from 2006

(http://i.imgur.com/L6652CB.jpg)

and the other countless articles about it from 2006?

Yeah I didn't think was news at all, but couldn't remember the exact details. 

Clearly the liberal media is bringing this up again because it helps Obama's radical agenda.   :roll:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on June 14, 2013, 11:38:45 PM
This begs the question however, why is this being reported as news, and a huge leak, when this was already knowledge in 2006, thus that poll, and this....

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/17/domesticspying.lawsuit/

You're confusing two different stories: the first (6/5) was the Verizon/NSA/database story (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order). This is the thing we knew about (but not really, since knowing of a program's existence doesn't mean we knew what they are doing with the info, what safeguards are in place to protect people's privacy, etc.). That's why Feinstein brilliantly said, in an attempt to chill every body out, "We've been renewing this daily data dump every 3 months for 10 fucking years. I really don't know why everyone is getting all cunty about it now." (or something like that) To which most people who give a shit about civil liberties said, "Who gives a shit when the programs started, why are you still doing it?"

The second (6/7), and arguably more troubling story is the NSA's top secret PRISM program (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data). Before this story was broken, we had absolutely no knowledge that the NSA could directly access the companies' servers on demand.

But even if there wasn't any new information, so what? I'm really not sure why you felt this point was so relevant as to make it twice. The fact that the gov't is spying on every citizen should be a big enough deal that it is news every goddamned day until the gov't backs the fuck off and follows the Constitution they swore to defend. I don't know what is more troubling to me: the fact that people fall in their predictable partisan categories (see aforementioned poll) or that we have become so conditioned to ceding our rights to an ever-growing surveillance state that this isn't a bigger fucking deal. Because it should be.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on June 15, 2013, 12:14:24 AM
This begs the question however, why is this being reported as news, and a huge leak, when this was already knowledge in 2006, thus that poll, and this....


You're confusing two different stories:

meh.  sound pretty similar to me.  the government is spying on your phone/internet records.  whether or not they have 'on demand access' or a fancy secret name like 'prism' seems irrelevant.

i bring it up again, because:

1: you never commented on it the first time, and i felt let down.   :-D
2. it's a legit question.  if i told you i secretly pissed in your cereal every morning in 2006, had been doing it for years and was going to keep doing it, why would you be shocked when i told you again in 2013.  (the collective 'you')

and of course i agree with you that people should be outraged and demand a stop to it, but i could say that about a slough of other issues which the majority of dumb ass americans don't give a shit about either.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on June 15, 2013, 11:09:49 AM
The huffing, conservative historian on Bill Maher last night kept trying to compare these programs to the apparently decades-old practice of the government databasing information from the outside of letters and packages (http://www.salon.com/2007/01/05/mail_cover/), for similar pattern-finding purposes. One minor difference here being that when you mail a letter, you actually hand it over to the government for delivery. G-men barging into the world's largest Internet companies and directly tapping the lines is quite a different scenario.

I'd like to know the legal argument why this would not be an invasion of privacy. Is it simply that they aren't (supposedly) snooping on the actual contents of your conversations? If so, then they should also be allowed to set up a microphone in your house to record how often you talk to your family members, for what duration, etc., as long as they don't listen to the particular words. Or would that be a no-no since it intrudes into the home? So what about a call made from one person's house to another house? OK to mine data there because, what, the calls are being placed over FCC-regulated, government-auctioned "public" spectrum? Or does it all just fall under the national-security catch-all explanation, which seems to trump everything and therefore should exclude no monitoring techniques from eligibility. I'm genuinely curious about the legal justification, because "we're doing it because we can" isn't an explanation that sits well wit most people.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on June 17, 2013, 12:15:16 PM
From today's New Yorker mag...

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on June 17, 2013, 12:58:07 PM
haha saw this episode over the weekend and def seemed relevant, maybe not with the MLB though  :roll:

http://youtu.be/riNIjE-J4NQ
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on June 18, 2013, 05:33:30 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1015282_496586173745349_112289836_o.jpg)

Quote
Happening now in the Texas State Senate: #txlege debating a set of targeted restrictions on abortion providers (TRAP) bills. Also at the debate, a crowd of women donning 1960s "Mad Men" to protest Governor Perry's efforts to take us back in time and virtually ban access to safe, legal abortion in Texas.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on June 18, 2013, 05:47:02 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1015282_496586173745349_112289836_o.jpg)

Quote
Happening now in the Texas State Senate: #txlege debating a set of targeted restrictions on abortion providers (TRAP) bills. Also at the debate, a crowd of women donning 1960s "Mad Men" to protest Governor Perry's efforts to take us back in time and virtually ban access to safe, legal abortion in Texas.

Also:

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/18/gop_lawmaker_extreme_abortion_ban_justified_because_of_masturbating_fetuses/
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on June 18, 2013, 06:17:24 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1015282_496586173745349_112289836_o.jpg)

Quote
Happening now in the Texas State Senate: #txlege debating a set of targeted restrictions on abortion providers (TRAP) bills. Also at the debate, a crowd of women donning 1960s "Mad Men" to protest Governor Perry's efforts to take us back in time and virtually ban access to safe, legal abortion in Texas.

Asked for comment, Gov. Perry stated "Fuck yeah, it's already working!" and then fired his pistols in the air, Yosemite Sam style.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 01, 2013, 04:32:26 PM
Today's rally for Women's rights at the Texas State Capitol...

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q71/1279_473020052783655_639725934_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: pcr3 on July 01, 2013, 04:44:42 PM
Today's rally for Women's rights at the Texas State Capitol...

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q71/1279_473020052783655_639725934_n.jpg)

damn, that cave of yours is pretty high up.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: birdman on July 01, 2013, 06:44:51 PM
Today's rally for Women's rights at the Texas State Capitol...

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q71/1279_473020052783655_639725934_n.jpg)

damn, that cave of yours is pretty high up.
:laugh:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on July 01, 2013, 09:07:51 PM
That's very cool.

Shame the lawmakers mostly don't give a fuck.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: twatts on July 01, 2013, 10:50:53 PM
That's very cool.

Shame the lawmakers mostly don't give a fuck.

Wendy had her shoes, but she will be tread upon by the Don't Tread On Me's...

Honestly, let's give Texas back to Mexico.  Do we really need them???   :-P

Terry
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 01, 2013, 11:54:05 PM
That's very cool.

Shame the lawmakers mostly don't give a fuck.

Wendy had her shoes, but she will be tread upon by the Don't Tread On Me's...

Honestly, let's give Texas back to Mexico.  Do we really need them???   :-P

Terry

Fuck you, dude. You see all those women gathered at the Capitol in support of women's rights? All Texans. We've got some fight in us. Texas is decade away from being a blue state once again. Mark my words.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on July 02, 2013, 12:57:43 AM
That's very cool.

Shame the lawmakers mostly don't give a fuck.

Wendy had her shoes, but she will be tread upon by the Don't Tread On Me's...

Honestly, let's give Texas back to Mexico.  Do we really need them???   :-P

Terry

Fuck you, dude. You see all those women gathered at the Capitol in support of women's rights? All Texans. We've got some fight in us. Texas is decade away from being a blue state once again. Mark my words.

I've heard it's likely to venture into "purple state territory" possibly as soon as the 2020 elections. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on July 02, 2013, 08:03:07 AM
That's very cool.

Shame the lawmakers mostly don't give a fuck.

Wendy had her shoes, but she will be tread upon by the Don't Tread On Me's...

Honestly, let's give Texas back to Mexico.  Do we really need them???   :-P

Terry

Fuck you, dude. You see all those women gathered at the Capitol in support of women's rights? All Texans. We've got some fight in us. Texas is decade away from being a blue state once again. Mark my words.

I've heard it's likely to venture into "purple state territory" possibly as soon as the 2020 elections.

Not with the Voter Rights Act disabled.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 02, 2013, 08:09:47 AM
That's very cool.

Shame the lawmakers mostly don't give a fuck.

Wendy had her shoes, but she will be tread upon by the Don't Tread On Me's...

Honestly, let's give Texas back to Mexico.  Do we really need them???   :-P

Terry

Fuck you, dude. You see all those women gathered at the Capitol in support of women's rights? All Texans. We've got some fight in us. Texas is decade away from being a blue state once again. Mark my words.

I've heard it's likely to venture into "purple state territory" possibly as soon as the 2020 elections.

Not with the Voter Rights Act disabled.

It is true that the Repubs are in power now and will do everything they can to keep it that way, no matter how shady. But they will be outnumbered before too long. It's inevitable.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on July 02, 2013, 08:35:14 AM
If Texas was no longer in the U.S., then people like Rick Perry couldn't run for president, and what fun would that be?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on July 02, 2013, 08:55:03 AM
If Texas was no longer in the U.S., then people like Rick Perry couldn't run for president, and what fun would that be?

We've got plenty of other assholes around.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on August 08, 2013, 09:12:33 PM
Could this fine-lookin' lady be my next Senator? She'll be running in the SC GOP primary (http://nancymace.org/). How come Republicans seem to have all the hot candidates? #pervert #superficial #forgettheissues #thinkswithdick

(http://media.thestate.com/smedia/2013/08/07/18/02/wEduz.AuSt.74.jpeg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 08, 2013, 09:55:38 PM
I can't tell you how badly I need Lindsey Graham to not be a Senator anymore.

Plus, those eyes...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Guyute on August 09, 2013, 12:16:54 AM
It's a nice picture.   She and I appear to agree on the role of government, taxes, and spending.  On social issues and second amendment we are so far off.

Too much mystical being controlling our actions in her statements for my flying  spaghetti monster ass.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Guyute on August 15, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
I took this yesterday. He's in front of the Fox News studio.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: zimbra on August 15, 2013, 10:51:37 PM
Damn...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on August 23, 2013, 07:46:18 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/VREvf2f.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 23, 2013, 09:23:55 PM
Gonna go ahead and throw my challenge flag on that one. No way that's real. Funny, but def not real.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on August 23, 2013, 10:14:15 PM
Gonna go ahead and throw my challenge flag on that one. No way that's real. Funny, but def not real.

Perhaps they're a progressive church with a sense of humor.  :wink:

It's probably a fake though. Either way I dig it.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on August 24, 2013, 01:53:48 AM
Well, you got me curious, so I googled the church to see what they're about.  Turns out they actually are a progressive church with a sense of humor.  They're the same church behind this sign (http://www.christianpost.com/news/god-prefers-kind-atheists-over-hateful-christians-says-ore-church-72597/) and they are known for their outreach to the LGBT community. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on August 24, 2013, 09:52:13 AM
Not a vid, but many great images and a very moving read...


www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/08/23/us/march-on-washington-anniversary-memories.html (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/08/23/us/march-on-washington-anniversary-memories.html)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on August 25, 2013, 12:05:58 AM
Thanks
Time did a special edition on the March
I don't know if the entire thing is available to non subscribers, but here is a part of it

http://www.time.com/time/onedream/
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on August 30, 2013, 11:13:04 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1233475_632446413444207_848649448_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: whatthecello42 on September 01, 2013, 11:29:52 AM
Putin's take:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUyPpT0_8Gg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUyPpT0_8Gg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Guyute on September 02, 2013, 11:18:26 PM
The new FBI director testifying before Congress about an incident with Gonzalez while he was the Assistant Attorney General.
This testimony plays like a scene from a new political thriller.  If you haven't seen it before, at least the first 10 minutes are worth the watch. 

Article on it as well here: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/democrats-love-james-comey-obamas-republican-pick-lead/story?id=19289113

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxHjWYA50Ds
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 04, 2013, 09:36:16 AM
What's a warmonger to do during such trivial red tape like a Senate Foreign Relations Committee pitching the case for attacking Syria? Well, if your mind's already made up like John McCain, you play online poker on your phone. Duh.

via WaPo (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics-live/the-senates-syria-hearing-live-updates/?id=ed01ca14-222b-4a23-b12c-c0b0d9d4fe0a)

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics-live/files/2013/09/McCainPoker.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on September 05, 2013, 12:50:22 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1234707_10151669342541713_1248543293_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 05, 2013, 06:29:08 AM
That's totally different and you know it, you goddamned Canuck, because Amurika.

Also, this guy gets it (~4 mins "I don't think the US...can necessarily apply moralisms to its commitments around the world")

http://youtu.be/aKdv2AqPwTw
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on September 05, 2013, 04:20:02 PM
Saw these randomly, had to re-post
(https://sphotos-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1231693_10151563740550841_482339108_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/1236801_10151565988075841_1127553352_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 05, 2013, 10:41:03 PM
Lulz, especially the first one
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on September 10, 2013, 10:06:20 PM
Saw these randomly, had to re-post
(https://sphotos-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1231693_10151563740550841_482339108_n.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on October 07, 2013, 11:38:33 AM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/open_letter.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on October 07, 2013, 12:10:07 PM
Saw this shirt on someone at ACL Fest this weekend...

(http://www.lookhuman.com/render/product/0057/0057492409404070/2001red-w484h484z1-20605-back-2-back-world-war-champs.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on October 07, 2013, 12:10:55 PM
 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 07, 2013, 12:22:10 PM
Awesome! USA! USA! USA!  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 11, 2013, 03:32:45 PM
Genius at work:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWUZYJVCQAAYCP7.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on October 11, 2013, 04:02:13 PM
Genius at work:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWUZYJVCQAAYCP7.jpg:large)

Wow. . .   somebody paid for a billboard before looking at a fucking map?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on October 11, 2013, 04:55:30 PM
Genius at work:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWUZYJVCQAAYCP7.jpg:large)

Wow. . .   somebody paid for a billboard before looking at a fucking map?

Well, technically, MO does border OK, so it's more like a contiguous C-shape.   

What I want to know is why no Arkansas? 

Oh, and didn't most of these states try that whole succession thing sometime earlier.  Wasn't it like the War of 1812 or the Bay of Pigs or something like that?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on October 11, 2013, 05:15:11 PM
Genius at work:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWUZYJVCQAAYCP7.jpg:large)

Wow. . .   somebody paid for a billboard before looking at a fucking map?

Well, technically, MO does border OK, so it's more like a contiguous C-shape.   

What I want to know is why no Arkansas? 

Oh, and didn't most of these states try that whole succession thing sometime earlier.  Wasn't it like the War of 1812 or the Bay of Pigs or something like that?

How bout Michigan?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on October 11, 2013, 05:21:56 PM
Genius at work:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWUZYJVCQAAYCP7.jpg:large)

Wow. . .   somebody paid for a billboard before looking at a fucking map?

Well, technically, MO does border OK, so it's more like a contiguous C-shape.   

What I want to know is why no Arkansas? 

Oh, and didn't most of these states try that whole succession thing sometime earlier.  Wasn't it like the War of 1812 or the Bay of Pigs or something like that?

How bout Michigan?


Isn't that down south somewhere?  I can never keep track of all those states out east.   :-o
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on October 11, 2013, 05:29:20 PM
Lol, nab. Geography fail.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on October 11, 2013, 05:36:32 PM
Lol, nab. Geography fail.


Well technically it was the same state abbreviation fail that got the guy who made the sign.  I mistook MI for Mississippi and concluded that the only state that might not fit the contiguous pattern was Missouri. 

I was being sarcastic about not knowing the locations of the eastern states, even though, except for Phish tours, east of the Mississippi is the least interesting part of the country.   :evil:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on October 11, 2013, 07:53:39 PM
What I want to know is why no Arkansas? 

Because fuck AK that's why.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on October 11, 2013, 11:08:10 PM
What I want to know is why no Arkansas? 

Because fuck AK that's why.

LEAVE ALASKA ALONE!!!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on October 11, 2013, 11:11:17 PM
What I want to know is why no Arkansas? 

Because fuck AK that's why.

LEAVE ALASKA ALONE!!!


Now I feel a little better, unless vbr3w was being sarcastic.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on October 11, 2013, 11:58:43 PM
Quote
Michael Beschloss ‏@BeschlossDC
Here is Pres Truman's scathing (apparently unsent) 1950 reply to accusatory telegram from Sen Joseph McCarthy: #NARA

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWV_ZAwCUAAFF8W.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 14, 2013, 07:51:41 AM
I saw the 'HST' sig at the bottom and wanted so badly for it to have been written by Hunter S Thompson (despite the chronological issues that would present.)

I still want to see how he would have written it.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on October 14, 2013, 09:43:46 PM
(https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1381542_10151979516232502_1666297334_n.png)

The sad part is that this isn't really even satire, it's truth. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on October 14, 2013, 10:11:16 PM
What I want to know is why no Arkansas? 

Because fuck AK that's why.

LEAVE ALASKA ALONE!!!


Now I feel a little better, unless vbr3w was being sarcastic.

Sorry nab, keep feeling bad...   :wink:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on October 15, 2013, 05:12:43 PM
I don't always agree with Dylan Ratigan, but this is awesome.

http://youtu.be/A3BHujm3cpY
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on October 15, 2013, 05:22:03 PM
 :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on October 15, 2013, 05:40:41 PM
It takes a brave man to admit the problem is capitalism, and for you  to bring us that information jimbo.  Well done.   :-)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on October 15, 2013, 06:15:16 PM
It takes a brave man to admit the problem is capitalism, and for you  to bring us that information jimbo.  Well done.   :-)

No problem, missing the point guy!
:wink:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 15, 2013, 06:32:51 PM
It takes a brave man to admit the problem is capitalism, and for you  to bring us that information jimbo.  Well done.   :-)

No problem, missing the point guy!
:wink:

fuck you both, you fucking socialists!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on October 15, 2013, 06:35:52 PM
It takes a brave man to admit the problem is capitalism, and for you  to bring us that information jimbo.  Well done.   :-)

No problem, missing the point guy!
:wink:

Thanks again, Mr. Stockholm!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on October 24, 2013, 01:57:38 AM
http://youtu.be/QPKKQnijnsM
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on October 30, 2013, 01:40:38 PM
I am going to warn you all that the following is the most provocative and inflammatory image that has ever been posted on the paug.



Brace yourselves and look away if you are easily shocked




















wait for it
































wait for it




















get ready































(http://cdn.gifbay.com/2012/11/obama_dancing_on_a_pizza_you_read_that_right-11597.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on October 30, 2013, 02:01:11 PM
^ I knew it!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on October 30, 2013, 02:29:23 PM
I'm never gonna eat pizza again
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on October 30, 2013, 03:47:02 PM
That. Was. Awesome.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on October 30, 2013, 05:01:48 PM
Dudes hips are looking a tad heavy.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on November 04, 2013, 10:55:12 AM
SC Mayor Wants Voters To “Relect” Him To Office (http://www.fitsnews.com/2013/11/01/sc-mayor-wants-voters-to-relect-him/)

(http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/relect-sign.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 08, 2013, 03:15:49 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Z3gQkWW.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/Z3gQkWW.gif)

click to enbiggen
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on November 10, 2013, 01:22:00 AM
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d153/deadmort/basement/a75WXgw_460sa_zps71d295dd.gif) (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/deadmort/media/basement/a75WXgw_460sa_zps71d295dd.gif.html)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 20, 2013, 08:34:18 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZfhScOCQAAtySb.jpg)

The whole thing is here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/ask-amy-parent-pressures-gay-son-to-change/2013/11/12/a46984d0-4815-11e3-bf0c-cebf37c6f484_story.html
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on November 20, 2013, 08:44:07 AM
^ now that's funny
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on November 21, 2013, 06:11:31 PM
click to embiggen.

(http://i.imgur.com/JK0xC8r.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on November 21, 2013, 07:43:00 PM
^ ha!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 22, 2013, 11:34:36 AM
I was watching that unfold in real time. Last I checked a couple days ago, questions were still rolling in.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on November 22, 2013, 01:28:52 PM
so good!!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on November 22, 2013, 02:02:03 PM
That's hilarious!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on December 30, 2013, 12:05:10 PM
my 2014 calendar.

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19b00jm9pkkvqjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on December 30, 2013, 07:20:34 PM
 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

Holy crap, that's awesome!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on January 14, 2014, 04:28:38 PM
yessir...

(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1521608_276436585843247_1951845429_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on January 14, 2014, 04:50:43 PM
it's a nice sentiment, but it was never uttered by Churchill.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on January 14, 2014, 04:51:49 PM
it's a nice sentiment, but it was never uttered by Churchill.

This fuckin' guy.  :shakehead:

I'm pretty sure he's memorized all of snopes.com
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on January 14, 2014, 04:55:17 PM
(http://www.lolmaze.com/pictures/f52c3cbf371351206c419e50ce29c802.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on January 14, 2014, 04:55:20 PM
it's a nice sentiment, but it was never uttered by Churchill.

(http://whitsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/lincoln_quote.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on January 23, 2014, 10:04:28 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/bfKPs7k.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on January 23, 2014, 10:40:40 PM
I could watch that all day long.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: twatts on January 23, 2014, 11:14:28 PM
I could watch that all day long.

The whole spot is hilarious...  "IN YOUR FACE!"

Terry
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on January 24, 2014, 01:51:21 AM
How can you not love Michelle?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on January 24, 2014, 08:36:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahdR6aHQvMQ
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on January 25, 2014, 01:07:37 AM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cold.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on January 29, 2014, 10:26:52 AM
Psycho NY Congressman threatens to throw reporter off balcony:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIAzSuSC1Y

Quote
New York Republican Congressman Michael Grimm threatened to throw a reporter from NY1 over a balcony in the US Capitol, after the State of the Union address. The reporter had asked Grimm about campaign finance allegations.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on January 29, 2014, 10:45:56 AM
Ha, I just read about that.

So apparently "New Yorker" + "congressman" + "Republican" = "giant fucking douchebag"

Who knew.

#broadstrokes
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on February 05, 2014, 11:34:49 AM
@teapartycat rules
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-TX0jByGN8
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on February 06, 2014, 02:22:29 PM
...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on February 06, 2014, 07:41:59 PM
http://liveforlivemusic.com/news/mayor-rob-ford-declares-feb-6th-as-bob-marley-day/#.UvQrZ4X3SO5

the video of him dancing to reggae in the city hall is good stuff  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on February 06, 2014, 11:38:57 PM
http://liveforlivemusic.com/news/mayor-rob-ford-declares-feb-6th-as-bob-marley-day/#.UvQrZ4X3SO5

the video of him dancing to reggae in the city hall is good stuff  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

Dude has the biggest set of balls I've ever seen. I'd put money down that he gets re-elected.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on February 13, 2014, 09:18:36 PM
http://m.comedycentral.com/tds_video.rbml?id=jason-jones-live-from-sochi-ish---behind-the-iron-closet
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on February 13, 2014, 11:07:07 PM
http://m.comedycentral.com/tds_video.rbml?id=jason-jones-live-from-sochi-ish---behind-the-iron-closet


Good piece.  For some reason that link sent me to the segment with comically slow dialog.  This one worked for me though:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-12-2014/jason-jones-live-from-sochi-ish---behind-the-iron-closet
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on February 14, 2014, 09:58:04 AM
Sorry. Posted from my phone so... anything can happen.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on February 16, 2014, 04:17:20 AM
^ Loved that Jason Jones piece. 

But, if you really want a laugh, check out the latest attack on Mitch "Liberal Democrat" McConnell. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukyCjMv8iqc&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on February 16, 2014, 08:59:09 AM
Bizzaro.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on February 16, 2014, 09:59:08 AM
I love how the tea party tries to take out the establishment repubs that actually know how Washington works.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on February 17, 2014, 01:51:44 PM
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1798872_550425511722815_1767434219_n.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on February 19, 2014, 10:51:16 AM
I love how the tea party tries to take out the establishment repubs that actually know how Washington works.

Lulz, you said Washington works.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on February 19, 2014, 11:17:04 AM
I love how the tea party tries to take out the establishment repubs that actually know how Washington works.

Lulz, you said Washington works.

It functions.
Perhaps not correctly and certainly not in line with most ideals, but shit goes down.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on February 26, 2014, 03:51:36 PM
A+ selfing by Texas state senator Dan Patrick lamenting the overturning of Texas' same sex marriage ban today.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dan-patrick-gay-marriage-typo

(http://a5.img.talkingpointsmemo.com/image/upload/w_652/xookx1l4dw5yd77wvqb9.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on February 26, 2014, 03:58:58 PM
A+ selfing by Texas state senator Dan Patrick lamenting the overturning of Texas' same sex marriage ban today.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dan-patrick-gay-marriage-typo

(http://a5.img.talkingpointsmemo.com/image/upload/w_652/xookx1l4dw5yd77wvqb9.jpg)

Freudian slip?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on February 26, 2014, 04:37:46 PM
Sometimes you have to be clever to keep it at 140 or under.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on February 27, 2014, 10:57:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHqx3-mfHAY
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on March 11, 2014, 11:09:27 AM
This could go any number of places but since there's a deliberate political/policy angle I'll put it here.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/18e820ec3f/between-two-ferns-with-zach-galifianakis-president-barack-obama (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/18e820ec3f/between-two-ferns-with-zach-galifianakis-president-barack-obama)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on March 13, 2014, 12:41:56 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/qDYfstX.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 13, 2014, 04:14:05 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiobOISIcAAAWgh.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 15, 2014, 09:33:16 AM
"...don't think of it as JPM shorting homeowners, think of it as going long hunger."

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-march-13-2014/2014--a-waste-odyssey
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on March 15, 2014, 01:03:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld_tg4W7Hf8
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on March 15, 2014, 06:41:28 PM
^ on point
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Mr. Natural on March 15, 2014, 10:37:52 PM
"Isn't life hard enough without making shit up out of thin air to fuck with yourself?"

 :clap:    :banana:

Quote of the year.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on March 15, 2014, 10:40:40 PM
"Isn't life hard enough without making shit up out of thin air to fuck with yourself?"

 :clap:    :banana:

Quote of the year.


yep, that had me grinning ear to ear.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on March 19, 2014, 07:43:14 PM
http://youtu.be/x9qLYZPAQB8 (http://youtu.be/x9qLYZPAQB8)

http://youtu.be/PulUKsICY9o (http://youtu.be/PulUKsICY9o)

These are real.

via (http://www.salon.com/2014/03/19/rncs_mortifying_new_ad_campaign_meet_scott_the_cool_young_republican/)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on March 20, 2014, 08:56:21 AM
Right. Republitards are for jobs.
Sure.
Just look at all the votes they threw behind jobs bills in the past 6 years.

Wait.. what's that? They voted against jobs bills?
They voted against infrastructure investment (which is jobs)?

Then they make ads that are disingenuous?
That seems unlikely.

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 25, 2014, 11:36:08 PM
So, the Ted Cruz coloring book is a thing.  Even funnier are the comments on amazon:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51aUFCPqCqL.jpg)

http://www.amazon.com/Ted-Cruz-Future-Coloring-Activity/dp/1619530953/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395758566&sr=8-1&keywords=ted+cruz+coloring+book

Quote
Easiest Coloring Book, Ever!
By A. Norris on December 17, 2013
I didn't know how well I'd enjoy this book, seeing as how I only have white crayons. But, as it turns out, that's the only color required! Magnificent!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on March 27, 2014, 08:32:18 PM
On point.
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Post by: slslbs on March 27, 2014, 10:01:53 PM
So, the Ted Cruz coloring book is a thing.  Even funnier are the comments on amazon:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51aUFCPqCqL.jpg)

http://www.amazon.com/Ted-Cruz-Future-Coloring-Activity/dp/1619530953/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395758566&sr=8-1&keywords=ted+cruz+coloring+book

Quote
Easiest Coloring Book, Ever!
By A. Norris on December 17, 2013
I didn't know how well I'd enjoy this book, seeing as how I only have white crayons. But, as it turns out, that's the only color required! Magnificent!


I've never read (or enjoyed) so many user reviews on Amazon

they should come out with a 2nd edition just for the reviews
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 27, 2014, 10:22:58 PM
On point.

I don't get it.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on April 18, 2014, 07:27:59 AM
Putting this here in case I need it again.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on April 18, 2014, 08:17:01 AM
Putting this here in case I need it again.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png)

 :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 19, 2014, 06:19:20 PM
Putting this here in case I need it again.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png)

 :clap:


I freakin' love that!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on April 22, 2014, 11:30:05 AM
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10171006_10202798884545640_5213647792881385506_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on April 22, 2014, 03:58:33 PM
This french author has just released a good book on Capitalism (its failure(s)). Although it is a hefty academic work, it has reached #1 on Amazon.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/22/thomas-piketty-amazon_n_5191566.html

http://youtu.be/XC_SdUvMBUc
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on April 26, 2014, 08:58:34 PM
r > get bent
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on April 26, 2014, 09:39:39 PM
r > get bent

Because he doesn't incorporate risk into the rate of return model, being that capital gains are no longer guaranteed from large amassed pools of wealth, due in part to traditional stable long term investments, such as treasury bills, yielding a pittance? But the equity and bond markets are hardly level playing fields. Then again, how do you factor in a variable for stock manipulation and insider trading? One thing I have learned from years of study in imperfect sciences, is that no model is perfect, particularly when one is trying to encapsulate humanity. But that is hardly a qualifier to the discarding of its ideas. Should it be held up as canon, absolutely not, there are a lot of problems with his book, ones which pose greater concern than the rate of return. Those revolving around inheritance and the absence of technological evolution within his model etc.... Should you wish to read a long rebuttal, I forward you a foreign affairs article (yes, I have a subscription). But it is still a good read nonetheless. We're in a fucking pickle and the more ideas tossed at the problem the better. From left and right.

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141218/tyler-cowen/capital-punishment?cid=emc-may14promoa-content-042214&sp_mid=45687449&sp_rid=ZGFyZW5pbmdyZXlAeWFob28uY29tS0
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on April 26, 2014, 11:11:03 PM
r > get bent

Because he doesn't incorporate risk into the rate of return model, being that capital gains are no longer guaranteed from large amassed pools of wealth, due in part to traditional stable long term investments, such as treasury bills, yielding a pittance?

If T-Bills are the measure of r, than g has been > than r for 5 years running.
(http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/fredgraph.png?g=yJz)

But the equity and bond markets are hardly level playing fields. Then again, how do you factor in a variable for stock manipulation and insider trading?

Enabled by regulators and the Fed.

One thing I have learned from years of study in imperfect sciences, is that no model is perfect, particularly when one is trying to encapsulate humanity.

Bernanke says NO

But that is hardly a qualifier to the discarding of its ideas. Should it be held up as canon, absolutely not, there are a lot of problems with his book, ones which pose greater concern than the rate of return. Those revolving around inheritance and the absence of technological evolution within his model etc.... Should you wish to read a long rebuttal, I forward you a foreign affairs article (yes, I have a subscription). But it is still a good read nonetheless. We're in a fucking pickle and the more ideas tossed at the problem the better. From left and right.

Endorse. Also, Tyler Cowen is the shit.

I haven't read Piketty, but it seems like economists on all sides agree his work on the history of inequality is invaluable. But after all that great work studying the history I feel like he just backed his forecast into a conclusion he had already made. And I wholeheartedly believe his solution of punitive taxation is not only wildly misguided, but far more dangerous than he gives credence to. Plus, the Marxist title doesn't sit well with me, if we're being honest.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on April 27, 2014, 12:19:54 AM
I do enjoy Cowen, although his support for the Anglo-American invasion and occupation of Iraq (and Afghanistan) was a farcical argument. Admittedly, he shifted position in 2007 as costs were spiraling out of control....which we knew they were bound to back in 2003. While I find it impressive that he writes on endless subjects (as do many academics), his initial argument was grossly uneducated and myopic. That said, this particular area of study is my scholastic domain, so me commenting on economic articles with any sort of authority is somewhat hypocritically equivalent in ignorance. And Bernanke is wrong. And never forget, Parisians believe in utopic ideals....a holdover from their storied past I guess. LOL.       
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on April 27, 2014, 09:44:59 AM
But the equity and bond markets are hardly level playing fields. Then again, how do you factor in a variable for stock manipulation and insider trading?

Enabled by regulators and the Fed.


I hope you don't think that stock manipulation and insider trading woudn't happen w/o regulation and the Fed.
imo the reason why it is enabled, or, better yet, allowed to happen, by regulators is that business has bought them off
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on April 27, 2014, 10:51:20 PM
I do enjoy Cowen, although his support for the Anglo-American invasion and occupation of Iraq (and Afghanistan) was a farcical argument. Admittedly, he shifted position in 2007 as costs were spiraling out of control....which we knew they were bound to back in 2003.

Yeah, I think he supported TARP too, which is something no self-respecting free market economist would ever bring himself to do. Still, I give him credit for admitting his wrongs, something that very few "serious" scholars are willing to do.

And Bernanke is wrong.

(http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/steve_clemons/bernanke%20atlantic%20cover.jpg)

But the equity and bond markets are hardly level playing fields. Then again, how do you factor in a variable for stock manipulation and insider trading?

Enabled by regulators and the Fed.


I hope you don't think that stock manipulation and insider trading woudn't happen w/o regulation and the Fed.
imo the reason why it is enabled, or, better yet, allowed to happen, by regulators is that business has bought them off

Of course not. I didn't say the Fed invented insider trading, I said they enabled it.

I don't think it's allowed as much as it is inevitable. Talent ends up at the banks, not the regulators. So they will always get around regulation. On top of that, the regulators all want to get a gig at a bank, so they're not gonna rock the boat too hard. You're right that business has bought them off, but it's only cause the incentives in place cause that behavior.

Of course, a more purist free marketer than I would argue insider trading should be legal. That for "efficient markets" to function effectively, ALL relevant information should be priced in. And while I am sympathetic to that eventual goal, it simply could not work in our current cronyist system. Someday, maybe.

It says a lot that Piketty is Amazon's best seller. And that he overtook Flash Boys, another fairly technical (albeit popularly written) story of inequality (in the financial markets), says even more. People are definitely starting to wake up. That makes me happy.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on May 02, 2014, 01:43:31 PM
The Economist is not a Piketty fan

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21601512-thomas-pikettys-blockbuster-book-great-piece-scholarship-poor-guide-policy

Quote
A modern Marx

Thomas Piketty’s blockbuster book is a great piece of scholarship, but a poor guide to policy

WHEN the first volume of Karl Marx’s “Das Kapital” was published in 1867, it took five years to sell 1,000 copies in its original German. It was not translated into English for two decades, and this newspaper did not see fit to mention it until 1907. By comparison, Thomas Piketty’s “Capital in the Twenty-First Century” is an overnight sensation. Originally published in French (when we first reviewed it), Mr Piketty’s vast tome on income-and-wealth distribution has become a bestseller since the English translation appeared in March. In America it is the top-selling book on Amazon, fiction included.

The book’s success has a lot to do with being about the right subject at the right time. Inequality has suddenly become a fevered topic, especially in America. Having for years dismissed the gaps between the haves and have-nots as a European obsession, Americans, stung by the excesses of Wall Street, are suddenly talking about the rich and redistribution. Hence the attraction of a book which argues that growing wealth concentration is inherent to capitalism and recommends a global tax on wealth as the progressive solution.

“Capital” has duly enraptured the left, infuriated the right and spiced up the dismal science in the popular mind (see article). But if Mr Piketty does set the tone of debate on inequality, the world will be the poorer for it. For like its 19th-century namesake, “Capital” contains some marvellous scholarship, but as a guide to action, is deeply flawed.

“Capital” makes three big contributions in its 577 pages. First, Mr Piketty, a pioneer in using tax statistics to measure inequality, painstakingly documents the evolution of income and wealth over the past 300 years, particularly in Europe and America. In doing so, he shows that the period from about 1914 to the 1970s was an historical outlier in which both income inequality and the stock of wealth (relative to annual national income) fell dramatically. Since the 1970s both wealth and income gaps have been rising back towards their pre-20th-century norms. There are surely a few snafus in these statistics, but this work has transformed understanding of the history of wealth, with eye-popping results. Who knew, for instance, that the annual value of inheritances in France has tripled from less than 5% of GDP in the 1950s to about 15%, not all that far from the 19th-century peak of 25%? As a piece of empirical sleuthing, the book is indisputably brilliant.

Mr Piketty’s second contribution is to come up with a theory of capitalism that explains these facts and offers a prediction of where wealth distribution is heading. His central claim is that the free-market system has a natural tendency towards increasing the concentration of wealth, because the rate of return on property and investments has consistently been higher than the rate of economic growth. Two world wars, the Depression and high taxes pushed down the return on wealth in the 20th century, while rapid productivity and population rises pushed up growth. But without such countervailing factors, Mr Piketty argues, higher returns on capital will concentrate wealth—especially when, as now, an ageing population means that growth should slow.

Mr Piketty’s expectation of rising wealth concentration is not outlandish. However, it is a prediction based on extrapolating from the past, not an inherent model of capitalism. He assumes that the returns to capital will not fall substantially even as the stock of wealth rises. That may prove to be true, but the Piketty prediction is a hypothesis, not an iron law.

Nit-Piketty

That is where the problems start, because Mr Piketty’s third contribution is to offer policy proposals that assume this growing concentration of wealth is not only inevitable, but the thing that matters most. He prescribes a progressive global tax on capital (an annual levy that could start at 0.1% and hits a maximum of perhaps 10% on the greatest fortunes). He also suggests a punitive 80% tax rate on incomes above $500,000 or so.

Here “Capital” drifts to the left and loses credibility. Mr Piketty asserts rather than explains why tempering wealth concentration should be the priority (as opposed to, say, boosting growth). He barely acknowledges any trade-offs or costs to his redistributionist agenda. Most economists, common sense and a lot of French businesspeople would argue that higher taxes on income and wealth put off entrepreneurs and risk taking; he blithely dismisses that. And his to-do list is oddly blinkered in its focus on taxing the rich. He ignores ways to broaden the ownership of capital, from “baby bonds” to government top-ups of private saving accounts. Some capital taxes could sit nicely in a sensible 21st-century policy toolkit (inheritance taxes, in particular), but they are not the only, or even the main, way to ensure broad-based prosperity.

Mr Piketty’s focus on soaking the rich smacks of socialist ideology, not scholarship. That may explain why “Capital” is a bestseller. But it is a poor blueprint for action.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on May 04, 2014, 12:18:58 PM
Read that too (digital subscriber) and do concur, great work of scholarship, poor policy guide. However, and as you have stated prior, what is slightly comforting is that people are no longer simply angry, that widespread readership of this and many other recent economic titles suggest an active engagement of an auto-educational process that we must hope leads to eventual action.   
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on May 05, 2014, 12:05:56 PM
Obama yukkin it up at the WH Correspondents' Dinner:

http://youtu.be/2HFLwotYfl0 (http://youtu.be/2HFLwotYfl0)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on May 08, 2014, 05:07:16 PM
I came across this old classic from 2008. Still hilarious. This is a local TV news anchor, mind you, not an opinion-show host.

http://youtu.be/m3EkhDru23U (http://youtu.be/m3EkhDru23U)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on May 09, 2014, 11:25:24 AM
I love Joe Biden.
I wish he was my uncle because he'd be my favorite uncle.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 09, 2014, 01:02:41 PM
I love Joe Biden.
I wish he was my uncle because he'd be my favorite uncle.

troof.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 09, 2014, 01:19:30 PM
oh snap!!

(http://i.imgur.com/Qc1K5tM.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: twatts on May 09, 2014, 02:53:31 PM
oh snap!!

(http://i.imgur.com/Qc1K5tM.png)

Oh, boohoo...  We fund Palestine too...  They seem to have no qualms about launching Kazam Rockets into civilian areas in Israel (presumably occupied by "girls")...

And let's not get into Pakistan, a country that harbors terrorists and then complains when we have to do something about it b/c they won't...

Cry me a fucking river...

Terry


Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 09, 2014, 03:09:48 PM
oh snap!!

(http://i.imgur.com/Qc1K5tM.png)

Oh, boohoo...  We fund Palestine too...  They seem to have no qualms about launching Kazam Rockets into civilian areas in Israel (presumably occupied by "girls")...

And let's not get into Pakistan, a country that harbors terrorists and then complains when we have to do something about it b/c they won't...

Cry me a fucking river...

Terry

So, he points out the hypocrisy of Michelle caring about some girls and not others and you get pissy because there's more hypocrisy out there? I mean, that doesn't make him wrong.

And, FTR, the drone strikes are literally at the will of her husband to do or not do. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: twatts on May 10, 2014, 12:39:54 AM
oh snap!!

(http://i.imgur.com/Qc1K5tM.png)

Oh, boohoo...  We fund Palestine too...  They seem to have no qualms about launching Kazam Rockets into civilian areas in Israel (presumably occupied by "girls")...

And let's not get into Pakistan, a country that harbors terrorists and then complains when we have to do something about it b/c they won't...

Cry me a fucking river...

Terry

So, he points out the hypocrisy of Michelle caring about some girls and not others and you get pissy because there's more hypocrisy out there? I mean, that doesn't make him wrong.

And, FTR, the drone strikes are literally at the will of her husband to do or not do.

So what you're saying is that Michelle shouldn't care about those girls b/c you don't think her husband cares enough about civilian casualties via drone strikes???  Would F111 bombing runs make you feel better???  CIA assassinations???  You argument only works if you can show that the POTUS and his wife are not troubled by the civilian casualties...

Really, do you think the parents of two teenage girls don't think about that when they (if you believe Michelle has that much influence over her husband and the country's foreign policy) order a strike???

I'll admit that I'm pretty aggressive per foreign policy, as a navy kid growing up in VaBch...  I have no qualms in supporting both sides in a conflict that we want to see resolved - make both friends and work with both (Palestine and Israel).  And I see no issue with projecting our power over countries that cannot or do not use their influence to bring about international peace (Pakistan).

YMMV...

Terry


Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on May 12, 2014, 12:40:02 AM
The article notes this, but I'll put it here too.  This is very, very NSFW (but damn hilarious).

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/you-need-to-watch-john-olivers-hilariously-raunchy-take-on-political-ads/
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on May 12, 2014, 08:02:20 AM
The article notes this, but I'll put it here too.  This is very, very NSFW (but damn hilarious).

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/you-need-to-watch-john-olivers-hilariously-raunchy-take-on-political-ads/

Great stuff.
Three weeks in and dude is killing it.
Check out this SFW Climate Change bit
http://youtu.be/cjuGCJJUGsg
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on May 13, 2014, 01:11:50 AM
I agree.  He's been doing really well.

They're apparently looking into expanding the show to an hour.  Welcome news to me.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on May 16, 2014, 03:13:20 PM
How am I just now seeing this?

http://youtu.be/4d_FvgQ1csE (http://youtu.be/4d_FvgQ1csE)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: birdman on May 16, 2014, 08:50:30 PM
How am I just now seeing this?

http://youtu.be/4d_FvgQ1csE (http://youtu.be/4d_FvgQ1csE)
Vermin supreme. He was my write in candidate in the last presidential election.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on May 16, 2014, 10:39:28 PM
How am I just now seeing this?

I don't know, but have you seen the recent Idaho Govenor Republican debate?

Couple of these guys give him a run for his money. Just skip over the guys in the suits, they are just regular crazy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQlPcwiruaY
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on May 16, 2014, 11:52:18 PM
Still trying to figure out how one goes to jail for homeschooling.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on May 28, 2014, 11:08:55 AM
A man named Dan Patrick is running for Lt. Governor in Texas. Two Lubbock-area TV stations, with an apparent assist from Google image search, helpfully put a face with the name:

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--o96ZaztL--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ees7s8absl7tusgojlhp.jpg)

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--xPWHS9Dt--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/bb3og7rrvgupbmgzfbpm.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on June 10, 2014, 10:00:17 AM
Big news from our governor:

(http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/imager/b/blog/4937079/5d71/haley.png?)

full story (http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/TheBattery/archives/2014/06/09/insta-classic-nikki-haleys-unfortunate-social-media-undershare)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on June 10, 2014, 10:54:05 AM
That's silly.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on June 20, 2014, 09:58:09 AM
How far has the country come in terms of gay rights? Gay Republicans (they do exist!) are actually putting their partners in their campaign ads.

Full story: http://nyti.ms/1l8LmlZ

(http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/06/20/us/GAY/GAY-master180.jpg)

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on July 01, 2014, 08:55:23 AM
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10433897_10203243087015610_9065670551519708164_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 01, 2014, 09:07:27 AM
What exactly about the case relegates women to "meh" status?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 01, 2014, 09:08:51 AM
What exactly about the case relegates women to "meh" status?

That they cannot be trusted to make their own decisions about their own bodies.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 01, 2014, 09:15:32 AM
What exactly about the case relegates women to "meh" status?

That they cannot be trusted to make their own decisions about their own bodies.

And how does the case do that? Contraceptives haven't been banned, have they?

Also, aren't you saying they can't make their own health care decisions by allowing the gov't to tell you what essential benefits you are required to have?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 01, 2014, 09:27:21 AM
Also, the thing about closely held corporations pretty much kicks the "corporate personhood" argument in the nuts too. The scope of the decision was limited to private companies because it is nearly impossible to separate the owners' religious beliefs from that of the company (it's in their goddamned mission statement). The focus is on the individual rights, not the rights of the corporation. It would be much harder to separate individual interests of a large, publicly traded company, hence the distinction.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 01, 2014, 09:29:04 AM
What exactly about the case relegates women to "meh" status?

That they cannot be trusted to make their own decisions about their own bodies.

And how does the case do that? Contraceptives haven't been banned, have they?

Also, aren't you saying they can't make their own health care decisions by allowing the gov't to tell you what essential benefits you are required to have?

You know, I started writing out an argument, but it's not worth my time. I really don't understand why this is even a debate, honestly. One person's morals over another should not be the basis of a SCOTUS decision. It's the same reason drugs should be legal. Some find drug use immoral. Others do not. That's fine, but laws that favor one set of morals over another are, by nature, discriminatory.



Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 01, 2014, 09:31:18 AM
What exactly about the case relegates women to "meh" status?

That they cannot be trusted to make their own decisions about their own bodies.

And how does the case do that? Contraceptives haven't been banned, have they?

Also, aren't you saying they can't make their own health care decisions by allowing the gov't to tell you what essential benefits you are required to have?

You know, I started writing out an argument, but it's not worth my time. I really don't understand why this is even a debate, honestly. One person's morals over another should not be the basis of a SCOTUS decision. It's the same reason drugs should be legal. Some find drug use immoral. Others do not. That's fine, but laws that favor one set of morals over another are, by nature, discriminatory.

I agree with you. But don't you think by forcing people too violate their beliefs you are pushing your morality on them?

If the GOP were smart, they'd put up a bill to make contraceptives OTC today. But they're not, so they won't.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 01, 2014, 09:43:01 AM
Here's the thing - the system by which women get prescriptions for the pill is really good for women. It gets them checked up on a regular basis which keeps them healthy and catches things like cancer early and actually saves lives... and, by the way, saves money in the long run for their insurance provider. All of this should be encouraged... and nothing discourages behavior quite like prohibitive costs.

The goal of Hobby Lobby is to discourage the women who work at Hobby Lobby from using contraceptives because "every sperm is sacred" in their eyes. But what they are really doing is making health care decisions for these women that the women should be allowed to make themselves. Contraception is a health care issue, in other words, not a moral one.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 01, 2014, 09:47:29 AM
The goal of Hobby Lobby is to discourage the women who work at Hobby Lobby from using contraceptives because "every sperm is sacred" in their eyes. But what they are really doing is making health care decisions for these women that the women should be allowed to make themselves. Contraception is a health care issue, in other words, not a moral one.

This is not true. Hobby Lobby provided 16 of the 20 contraceptives required by the ACA (http://wapo.st/1qrbjAt) (a little discussed fact in the case, as evidenced by the prominent placing in the 3rd to last paragraph in a fairly lengthy write-up). They said they have no problem continuing to offer these benefits.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on July 01, 2014, 10:10:14 AM
Also, aren't you saying they can't make their own health care decisions by allowing the gov't to tell you what essential benefits you are required to have?

Making benefits available to someone is not the same as requiring a person to avail herself of said benefits. The autonomous ability to make health care decisions remains in place.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 01, 2014, 10:26:06 AM
Also, aren't you saying they can't make their own health care decisions by allowing the gov't to tell you what essential benefits you are required to have?

Making benefits available to someone is not the same as requiring a person to avail herself of said benefits. The autonomous ability to make health care decisions remains in place.

What if my autonomous health care decision is to not purchase insurance? Or buy a plan that only covers catastrophic claims? Or a plan that doesn't include maternity?

Herein like the problem once you start telling people that they lack the basic understanding of the insurance marketplace and that a centralized body should decide what is and is not "essential."
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 01, 2014, 10:37:25 AM
Also, aren't you saying they can't make their own health care decisions by allowing the gov't to tell you what essential benefits you are required to have?

Making benefits available to someone is not the same as requiring a person to avail herself of said benefits. The autonomous ability to make health care decisions remains in place.

What if my autonomous health care decision is to not purchase insurance? Or buy a plan that only covers catastrophic claims? Or a plan that doesn't include maternity?

Herein like the problem once you start telling people that they lack the basic understanding of the insurance marketplace and that a centralized body should decide what is and is not "essential."

One of the reasons I really don't want to debate this with anyone is that I think we should have a single payer system. Fuck the health insurance industry. Fuck 'em.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on July 01, 2014, 10:42:32 AM
Also, aren't you saying they can't make their own health care decisions by allowing the gov't to tell you what essential benefits you are required to have?

Making benefits available to someone is not the same as requiring a person to avail herself of said benefits. The autonomous ability to make health care decisions remains in place.

What if my autonomous health care decision is to not purchase insurance? Or buy a plan that only covers catastrophic claims? Or a plan that doesn't include maternity?

Herein like the problem once you start telling people that they lack the basic understanding of the insurance marketplace and that a centralized body should decide what is and is not "essential."

That's a broader conversation though. I was responding to your comment that making an employer offer full contraception benefits as a feature of its health insurance coverage is the equivalent of taking away health care decisions from the individual. If anything, it's expanding choice and the opportunity to make individually tailored decisions.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 01, 2014, 10:44:17 AM
Also, aren't you saying they can't make their own health care decisions by allowing the gov't to tell you what essential benefits you are required to have?

Making benefits available to someone is not the same as requiring a person to avail herself of said benefits. The autonomous ability to make health care decisions remains in place.

What if my autonomous health care decision is to not purchase insurance? Or buy a plan that only covers catastrophic claims? Or a plan that doesn't include maternity?

Herein like the problem once you start telling people that they lack the basic understanding of the insurance marketplace and that a centralized body should decide what is and is not "essential."

One of the reasons I really don't want to debate this with anyone is that I think we should have a single payer system. Fuck the health insurance industry. Fuck 'em.

That's fine. As I've said before, single payer, though I am not in favor of it, would have been more of a change to the health care delivery system than the ACA. As would severing the ties to employer-provided health care. Unfortunately, when discussing recent developments, we can only debate what we have, not what we want.

Also, to be clear, I am not trying to debate anyone per se. I am not trying to change anyone's mind and I respect differing POVs. I am simply pointing out specific claims that I find to be somewhat inconsistent or misleading. YMMV.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 01, 2014, 10:50:43 AM
Honesly, "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" should mean that we don't let people die from lack of money. Just as we must provide public education, so must we provide public health care. That's how I see it.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 01, 2014, 10:53:19 AM
Also, aren't you saying they can't make their own health care decisions by allowing the gov't to tell you what essential benefits you are required to have?

Making benefits available to someone is not the same as requiring a person to avail herself of said benefits. The autonomous ability to make health care decisions remains in place.

What if my autonomous health care decision is to not purchase insurance? Or buy a plan that only covers catastrophic claims? Or a plan that doesn't include maternity?

Herein like the problem once you start telling people that they lack the basic understanding of the insurance marketplace and that a centralized body should decide what is and is not "essential."

That's a broader conversation though. I was responding to your comment that making an employer offer full contraception benefits as a feature of its health insurance coverage is the equivalent of taking away health care decisions from the individual. If anything, it's expanding choice and the opportunity to make individually tailored decisions.

I wasn't trying to say it's the equivalent of taking them away, I was responding to the idea that the Hobby Lobby decision has anything to do with the relegating women to "meh" status. Once HHS is granted such broad sweeping authority, it pretty much negates the "they can't be trusted to make their own decisions" argument IMO.

Honesly, "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" should mean that we don't let people die from lack of money. Just as we must provide public education, so must we provide public health care. That's how I see it.

I agree, it is hard to pursue happiness if you are sick or dying. I just don't believe the gov't can/should/is able to provide that effectively.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 01, 2014, 11:01:56 AM

Honesly, "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" should mean that we don't let people die from lack of money. Just as we must provide public education, so must we provide public health care. That's how I see it.

I agree, it is hard to pursue happiness if you are sick or dying. I just don't believe the gov't can/should/is able to provide that effectively.

It's easy to argue that the gov't isn't providing public education "effectively," too. But that hardly seems the point. A system that needs work is at least a system to work from. The wealthy, who send their kids to private schools despite paying for public education through taxes, would likely pay extra for better coverage than the public health care system. We'd still have the most advanced health care in the world but we'd provide at least basic care for everyone. There should be no scenario where an American citizen goes bankrupt due to medical bills stemming from cancer treatment. That's a violation of basic human rights, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 01, 2014, 11:11:45 AM

Honesly, "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" should mean that we don't let people die from lack of money. Just as we must provide public education, so must we provide public health care. That's how I see it.

I agree, it is hard to pursue happiness if you are sick or dying. I just don't believe the gov't can/should/is able to provide that effectively.

It's easy to argue that the gov't isn't providing public education "effectively," too. But that hardly seems the point. A system that needs work is at least a system to work from. The wealthy, who send their kids to private schools despite paying for public education through taxes, would likely pay extra for better coverage than the public health care system. We'd still have the most advanced health care in the world but we'd provide at least basic care for everyone. There should be no scenario where an American citizen goes bankrupt due to medical bills stemming from cancer treatment. That's a violation of basic human rights, in my opinion.

You really want to get me started on public education?
:wink:

Alright, I guess I should go do some work now.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on July 01, 2014, 11:19:12 AM
You have about 4 hours to get some emails out and make it appear you earned your paycheck today.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on July 01, 2014, 11:49:45 AM
Rick Santorum's upcoming movie (http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/rick-santorum-is-already-making-a-movie-about-the-hobby-lobby-decision-20140701) about the "war on religion" and the Hobby Lobby case:

http://vimeo.com/93438387 (http://vimeo.com/93438387)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 01, 2014, 12:26:41 PM
Fuck, if there's anything that can stop me from supporting the decision, it's goddamned Santorum sticking his dumb face in it.

Last two things I'll point anyone to about this (probably not):

1. Vox (with whom I rarely see eye-to-eye) has a piece called 5 mistakes liberals make about corporate personhood and Hobby Lobby (http://www.vox.com/2014/7/1/5860742/5-mistakes-liberals-make-about-corporate-personhood-and-hobby-lobby?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_name=share-button&utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=article-share-bottom?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=mattyglesias&utm_content=tuesday), namely:
Quote
1) Corporations obviously aren't people
2) Non-people can be persons
3) Corporate persons need constitutional rights
4) Corporate personhood actually cuts against Hobby Lobby's argument
5) Liberals think equality is more important than religious liberty

2. Left-leaning Harvard constitutional law professor Laurence Tribe with a solid, reasoned take on the decision and on the cartoonization of the left-right divide in general.

http://youtu.be/66WxYx23STc
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on July 01, 2014, 01:52:01 PM
I can't watch the vid right now.

As far as Vox goes, I have issue with #5. Particularly, anyone who says "liberals think ...". I was never asked to join a liberals club and told what to think
As far as religious freedom goes, many (not all, perhaps not even most) of those who espouse religious freedom are in fact only promoting their views at the expense of others, and just labelling it religious freedom.
I don't think that Hobby Lobby is doing that here although I do object to them wanted to start Bible classes in public school.

btw, is there a definition of "closely held" for profit corporation?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on July 01, 2014, 02:07:09 PM
Honesly, "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" should mean that we don't let people die from lack of money. Just as we must provide public education, so must we provide public health care. That's how I see it.

This.
A thousand times this.

Employers should not be anywhere near my healthcare. No business should.
Healthcare is a human right and our country completely fails to recognize and act upon this.


That said, Hobby Lobby is effectively making medical decisions for it's employees by determining that these contraceptives are not cool by them. This "narrow" ruling will soon have its doors blown right off when people use the language about respecting religious beliefs to enact some far worse levels of bullshit. In fact, that's the best part about this ruling.

When a company decides not to employ women because the founder's religion does not believe that women should work outside the home, we're gonna see some shit.

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 01, 2014, 02:36:39 PM
As far as Vox goes, I have issue with #5. Particularly, anyone who says "liberals think ...". I was never asked to join a liberals club and told what to think

Sure, it's a generalization, but I'd note that the author (and probably most of the staff at Vox) would include themselves in that camp. In other words, it's not a term of derision here as it would be on Fox.

btw, is there a definition of "closely held" for profit corporation?

Basically just a private company but here's the formal definition via the IRS (http://www.irs.gov/Help-&-Resources/Tools-&-FAQs/FAQs-for-Individuals/Frequently-Asked-Tax-Questions-&-Answers/Small-Business,-Self-Employed,-Other-Business/Entities/Entities-5):
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Generally, a closely held corporation is a corporation that:
-- Has more than 50% of the value of its outstanding stock owned (directly or indirectly) by 5 or fewer individuals at any time during the last half of the tax year; and
-- Is not a personal service corporation.

The definitions for the terms "directly or indirectly" and "individual" are in Publication 542, Corporations.

A closely held corporation is subject to additional limitations in the tax treatment of items such as passive activity losses, at-risk rules, and compensation paid to corporate officers.

Employers should not be anywhere near my healthcare.

Signed

That said, Hobby Lobby is effectively making medical decisions for it's employees by determining that these contraceptives are not cool by them.

No, it's really not.

This "narrow" ruling will soon have its doors blown right off when people use the language about respecting religious beliefs to enact some far worse levels of bullshit. In fact, that's the best part about this ruling.

When a company decides not to employ women because the founder's religion does not believe that women should work outside the home, we're gonna see some shit.

Look, I know this decision has people all heated, but the case, and the RFRA in general, in no way whatsoever could be used to justify this kind of action. Hyperbole is best left to the politicians.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on July 01, 2014, 02:37:21 PM
Honesly, "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" should mean that we don't let people die from lack of money. Just as we must provide public education, so must we provide public health care. That's how I see it.

This.
A thousand times this.

yes - it should go without saying, but unfortunately in this country it doesn't.
                                 
I understand those who find it unpalatable for the gov't to be involved in health care.                                         
The free market has proven that it cannot do the job.

As a wise, GOP president once said (paraphrasing) government should do what we can't do for ourselves.   Providing health care is one of those things for many in this country.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 01, 2014, 02:46:39 PM
I understand those who find it unpalatable for the gov't to be involved in health care.                                         
The free market has proven that it cannot do the job.

...cough...VA...cough...

Also, a market where ~40% of total health spending is provided by the gov't is not really a free market. Just sayin'
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on July 01, 2014, 03:25:41 PM
yes - the VA system is a disgrace and imo a perfect argument against a system that is entirely govt run. The difference between the VA and Medicare is that everyone in the VA is a full time govt employee, unlike Medicare where the govt is acting as "an insurance company"

yes, even before HCA Medicare was 40% of the market, not entirely free enterprise

I would argue that even before medicare (the mid 60s), the free market couldn't provide universal coverage. That was the days before bypass surgery, transplants, chemotherapy, etc. It would be less likely to do so now.
The initial impetus for universal health care came in the 40s (Truman was an advocate) - perhaps earlier
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on July 02, 2014, 10:06:08 AM
This "narrow" ruling will soon have its doors blown right off when people use the language about respecting religious beliefs to enact some far worse levels of bullshit. In fact, that's the best part about this ruling.

When a company decides not to employ women because the founder's religion does not believe that women should work outside the home, we're gonna see some shit.

Look, I know this decision has people all heated, but the case, and the RFRA in general, in no way whatsoever could be used to justify this kind of action. Hyperbole is best left to the politicians.

Given the fact that the RFRA was evidently inspired by an unpopular court ruling against a Native American who used peyote (see my earlier post) -- and based on the ease and near unanimity with which it passed, it's reasonable to believe lawmakers did not write that law anticipating it would be used in such a controversial way as here -- I think that it is fair to speculate about what further expansive takes on the law SCOTUS might indulge next. It's not like the RFRA was specifically about contraception, after all.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 02, 2014, 12:20:53 PM
This "narrow" ruling will soon have its doors blown right off when people use the language about respecting religious beliefs to enact some far worse levels of bullshit. In fact, that's the best part about this ruling.

When a company decides not to employ women because the founder's religion does not believe that women should work outside the home, we're gonna see some shit.

Look, I know this decision has people all heated, but the case, and the RFRA in general, in no way whatsoever could be used to justify this kind of action. Hyperbole is best left to the politicians.

Given the fact that the RFRA was evidently inspired by an unpopular court ruling against a Native American who used peyote (see my earlier post) -- and based on the ease and near unanimity with which it passed, it's reasonable to believe lawmakers did not write that law anticipating it would be used in such a controversial way as here -- I think that it is fair to speculate about what further expansive takes on the law SCOTUS might indulge next. It's not like the RFRA was specifically about contraception, after all.

You guys are acting as if the Court will accept any bullshit made-up "religious" claim brought before them. You may not like them or agree with them, but the justices are not idiots. They do have the ability (as does any reasonable person) to distinguish between legit claims of religious objection and scams meant to circumvent current law (although I hear Ginsburg clicks on a lot of Nigerian prince emails).
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on July 02, 2014, 12:47:52 PM
The justices certainly are intelligent, learned people. But the bitch about law seems to be that two equally smart, qualified people can disagree so sharply, so often, on so many issues. How is that? How do we have so many 5-4 decisions that fall along the predictable ideological lines? Someone's gotta be right and someone's gotta be wrong, yeah? I believe it's because even Supreme Court justices can allow their own predispositions to influence their interpretations of cases. For better or worse.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: phil on July 02, 2014, 01:00:58 PM
(although I hear Ginsburg clicks on a lot of Nigerian prince emails).

are you not supposed to click those?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on July 02, 2014, 01:30:33 PM
This "narrow" ruling will soon have its doors blown right off when people use the language about respecting religious beliefs to enact some far worse levels of bullshit. In fact, that's the best part about this ruling.

When a company decides not to employ women because the founder's religion does not believe that women should work outside the home, we're gonna see some shit.

Look, I know this decision has people all heated, but the case, and the RFRA in general, in no way whatsoever could be used to justify this kind of action. Hyperbole is best left to the politicians.

Given the fact that the RFRA was evidently inspired by an unpopular court ruling against a Native American who used peyote (see my earlier post) -- and based on the ease and near unanimity with which it passed, it's reasonable to believe lawmakers did not write that law anticipating it would be used in such a controversial way as here -- I think that it is fair to speculate about what further expansive takes on the law SCOTUS might indulge next. It's not like the RFRA was specifically about contraception, after all.

You guys are acting as if the Court will accept any bullshit made-up "religious" claim brought before them. You may not like them or agree with them, but the justices are not idiots. They do have the ability (as does any reasonable person) to distinguish between legit claims of religious objection and scams meant to circumvent current law (although I hear Ginsburg clicks on a lot of Nigerian prince emails).

Are you saying that there aren't widely practiced religions whose customs might be construed by others as discriminatory?

Also, your display of apparent faith in those people is amusing to me.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on July 02, 2014, 01:41:17 PM
Also, your display of apparent faith in those people is amusing to me.

Not to mention entirely out of character.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 02, 2014, 02:01:57 PM
The justices certainly are intelligent, learned people. But the bitch about law seems to be that two equally smart, qualified people can disagree so sharply, so often, on so many issues. How is that? How do we have so many 5-4 decisions that fall along the predictable ideological lines? Someone's gotta be right and someone's gotta be wrong, yeah? I believe it's because even Supreme Court justices can allow their own predispositions to influence their interpretations of cases. For better or worse.

No, I don't think cases argued before the Supreme Court do fall into a clear right/wrong distinction. Because they are not statutory cases. They are questions related to the interpretation of constitutional law. And those questions are very rarely so clear cut. You're right, the justices are people who are subject to their own biases. But that's why the system is set up the way it is (odd number justices, lifetime appointments, etc.).

(although I hear Ginsburg clicks on a lot of Nigerian prince emails).

are you not supposed to click those?

You can click, just don't tell them about your mattress stash.

Are you saying that there aren't widely practiced religions whose customs might be construed by others as discriminatory?

No, but of course we have laws to prevent discrimination. The RFRA could not be used to supersede those laws (unless of course you are suggesting that the gov't does not have a compelling interest in preventing discrimination?).

Also, your display of apparent faith in those people is amusing to me.

I don't have faith in those people. I do have faith in our justice system, despite its many, many flaws. Doesn't mean I approve of every decision or think that judges are infallible. There are plenty of cases where I think the Court got it wrong. But in general, I believe the system is sound (and to pre-answer sls' forthcoming question about my faith in a branch of gov't, if I had to pick one, it would obviously be the judiciary). YMMV
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on July 02, 2014, 02:20:51 PM
less talk. more funny images.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on July 02, 2014, 02:28:07 PM
Are you saying that there aren't widely practiced religions whose customs might be construed by others as discriminatory?

No, but of course we have laws to prevent discrimination. The RFRA could not be used to supersede those laws (unless of course you are suggesting that the gov't does not have a compelling interest in preventing discrimination?).

Also, your display of apparent faith in those people is amusing to me.

I don't have faith in those people. I do have faith in our justice system, despite its many, many flaws. Doesn't mean I approve of every decision or think that judges are infallible. There are plenty of cases where I think the Court got it wrong. But in general, I believe the system is sound (and to pre-answer sls' forthcoming question about my faith in a branch of gov't, if I had to pick one, it would obviously be the judiciary). YMMV

What I am not alone in predicting here is that the Court has set precedence for Religious exemptions to be applied to Corporations for standing laws when former conflicts with the latter.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 02, 2014, 02:37:44 PM
Are you saying that there aren't widely practiced religions whose customs might be construed by others as discriminatory?

No, but of course we have laws to prevent discrimination. The RFRA could not be used to supersede those laws (unless of course you are suggesting that the gov't does not have a compelling interest in preventing discrimination?).

Also, your display of apparent faith in those people is amusing to me.

I don't have faith in those people. I do have faith in our justice system, despite its many, many flaws. Doesn't mean I approve of every decision or think that judges are infallible. There are plenty of cases where I think the Court got it wrong. But in general, I believe the system is sound (and to pre-answer sls' forthcoming question about my faith in a branch of gov't, if I had to pick one, it would obviously be the judiciary). YMMV

What I am not alone in predicting here is that the Court has set precedence for Religious exemptions to be applied to closely held Corporations for standing laws when former conflicts with the latter.

FYP

less talk. more funny images.

see attached
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on July 02, 2014, 02:45:47 PM
Are you saying that there aren't widely practiced religions whose customs might be construed by others as discriminatory?

No, but of course we have laws to prevent discrimination. The RFRA could not be used to supersede those laws (unless of course you are suggesting that the gov't does not have a compelling interest in preventing discrimination?).

Also, your display of apparent faith in those people is amusing to me.

I don't have faith in those people. I do have faith in our justice system, despite its many, many flaws. Doesn't mean I approve of every decision or think that judges are infallible. There are plenty of cases where I think the Court got it wrong. But in general, I believe the system is sound (and to pre-answer sls' forthcoming question about my faith in a branch of gov't, if I had to pick one, it would obviously be the judiciary). YMMV

What I am not alone in predicting here is that the Court has set precedence for Religious exemptions to be applied to closely held Corporations for standing laws when former conflicts with the latter.

FYP


According to the dudes on the right last Presidential cycle, most businesses are small business so it's not as if that two-word distinction will be very limiting. Additionally, I'd wager that distinction will be among the first parts of this ruling put to the test.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on July 02, 2014, 02:49:31 PM
Are you saying that there aren't widely practiced religions whose customs might be construed by others as discriminatory?

No, but of course we have laws to prevent discrimination. The RFRA could not be used to supersede those laws (unless of course you are suggesting that the gov't does not have a compelling interest in preventing discrimination?).

Also, your display of apparent faith in those people is amusing to me.

I don't have faith in those people. I do have faith in our justice system, despite its many, many flaws. Doesn't mean I approve of every decision or think that judges are infallible. There are plenty of cases where I think the Court got it wrong. But in general, I believe the system is sound (and to pre-answer sls' forthcoming question about my faith in a branch of gov't, if I had to pick one, it would obviously be the judiciary). YMMV

What I am not alone in predicting here is that the Court has set precedence for Religious exemptions to be applied to closely held Corporations for standing laws when former conflicts with the latter.

FYP

less talk. more funny images.

see attached

There was no funniness in that image. 110% ser biz.

But I'll leave you all to your serious discussion. I only attend the paug for the phish and strippers.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on July 02, 2014, 08:12:24 PM
Are you saying that there aren't widely practiced religions whose customs might be construed by others as discriminatory?

No, but of course we have laws to prevent discrimination. The RFRA could not be used to supersede those laws (unless of course you are suggesting that the gov't does not have a compelling interest in preventing discrimination?).

Also, your display of apparent faith in those people is amusing to me.

I don't have faith in those people. I do have faith in our justice system, despite its many, many flaws. Doesn't mean I approve of every decision or think that judges are infallible. There are plenty of cases where I think the Court got it wrong. But in general, I believe the system is sound (and to pre-answer sls' forthcoming question about my faith in a branch of gov't, if I had to pick one, it would obviously be the judiciary). YMMV

What I am not alone in predicting here is that the Court has set precedence for Religious exemptions to be applied to closely held Corporations for standing laws when former conflicts with the latter.

FYP


According to the dudes on the right last Presidential cycle, most businesses are small business so it's not as if that two-word distinction will be very limiting. Additionally, I'd wager that distinction will be among the first parts of this ruling put to the test.
yea - that's my issue with this - where is it going to go?
I understand the argument that why should non profits (when they really mean churches) be given a pass when for profits are not?
OK, so all that isn't covered is IUD and morning after pill - other stuff is OK
What if Hobby Lobby was owned by fundamentalist Catholics (or Orthodox Jews) who are against any form of contraception?
What if a majority stockholder of a firm has the same views as the Greens and gets the board to vote not to pay for various forms of contraception based upon religious beliefs?
A line has to be drawn somewhere. Is this the end? There will be other cases, and even if the court holds the line at non profits and closely held corporations, there are other aspects to be disputed.

a larger problem, though, is that the flaws in the legislation will never be fixed. The GOP isn't interested in tweaking it, which it badly needs (even though the law is based upon many, many ideas introduced by GOP members).
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on July 09, 2014, 07:01:23 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/OZehXQj.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on July 10, 2014, 05:27:27 PM
haha that was when he was in denver.
I posted the article in the have you heard about political part.

Someone also offered Obama "a hit" which he tuned down
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 12, 2014, 01:10:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/oS6EBmX.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on July 16, 2014, 09:31:45 AM
They took are jobs!!

(https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBgeaHR0cDovL2kuaW1ndXIuY29tLzlhNWhyT0kucG5nFMAHFNAFABYAEgA&s=X_zQnSIssTrNxl0D4NhSMghRUm5EteKlc2U8hzPdNIA)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on July 16, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
Yeah. Those "be careful and don't die" signs should TOTALLY be in a language the audience can't read.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 08, 2014, 05:12:01 PM
So, there’s a 6,600 word piece in NYT Magazine about the libertarian moment “arriving” (well worth, the read, BTW (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/magazine/has-the-libertarian-moment-finally-arrived.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1)). In it, ardent libertarian and former MTV VJ Kennedy makes a solid analogy:

Quote
"Let's say Ron Paul is Nirvana," said Kennedy, the television personality and former MTV host, by way of explaining the sort of politician who excites libertarians like herself. "Like, the coolest, most amazing thing to come along in years, and the songs are nebulous but somehow meaningful, and the lead singer kills himself to preserve the band's legacy.
"Then Rand Paul — he's Pearl Jam. Comes from the same place, the songs are really catchy, can really pack the stadiums, though it's not quite Nirvana.
"Ted Cruz? He's Stone Temple Pilots. Tries really hard to sound like Pearl Jam, never gonna sound like Nirvana. Really good voice, great staying power — but the whole is not greater than the sum of its parts."

Eat your heart out, MBW.

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--s_H_70lA--/e42oa3l2w2pfq1df0k8e.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on August 08, 2014, 05:59:54 PM
I stopped reading at "In it, ardent libertarian and former MTV VJ Kennedy makes a solid analogy" so I could lol.

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 08, 2014, 06:13:49 PM
I stopped reading at "In it, ardent libertarian and former MTV VJ Kennedy makes a solid analogy" so I could lol.

That Photoshop tho.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on August 12, 2014, 12:50:52 PM
I stopped reading at "In it, ardent libertarian and former MTV VJ Kennedy makes a solid analogy" so I could lol.

That Photoshop tho.

can't see it.  my brain just stopped working when you quoted Kennedy and called it 'solid.'
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on August 12, 2014, 02:05:06 PM
Those guys in Kennedy's solid analogy are more like Creed.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 12, 2014, 02:09:18 PM
You guys understand that you don't have to agree with the subjects of the analogy for it still to be a valid analogy, right?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on August 12, 2014, 02:31:56 PM
Yeah I get her point. So she must think libertarianism is in trouble if its standard bearers are getting lamer?

Good photoshop at any rate.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on August 13, 2014, 03:59:08 PM
meh, fuck that racist pos.  kurt would be sickened by him, so fuck that picture too.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 13, 2014, 04:40:41 PM
meh, fuck that racist pos.  kurt would be sickened by him, so fuck that picture too.

DRINK
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 13, 2014, 06:22:25 PM
meh, fuck that racist pos.  kurt would be sickened by him, so fuck that picture too.

DRINK

That's not a very funny retort.

Also, completely agree with mbw.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 14, 2014, 01:06:02 AM
meh, fuck that racist pos.  kurt would be sickened by him, so fuck that picture too.

DRINK

That's not a very funny retort.

Also, completely agree with mbw.

Well you don't go for my tl;dr comments, so I figured I'd stick to the snappy one liners like you guys.

Needless to say, I do not agree. But I get how it's totally easier to call someone with whom you don't agree a racist pos.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on August 14, 2014, 08:39:59 AM
meh, fuck that racist pos.  kurt would be sickened by him, so fuck that picture too.

DRINK

That's not a very funny retort.

Also, completely agree with mbw.

Well you don't go for my tl;dr comments, so I figured I'd stick to the snappy one liners like you guys.

Needless to say, I do not agree. But I get how it's totally easier to call someone with whom you don't agree a racist pos.

No, see, if I don't agree with his assertion that:

 "Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began”

or

 'Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressman. What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day."

I can indeed call him a racist pos.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 14, 2014, 08:44:23 AM
meh, fuck that racist pos.  kurt would be sickened by him, so fuck that picture too.

DRINK

That's not a very funny retort.

Also, completely agree with mbw.

Well you don't go for my tl;dr comments, so I figured I'd stick to the snappy one liners like you guys.

Needless to say, I do not agree. But I get how it's totally easier to call someone with whom you don't agree a racist pos.

I'd have to say the fact that he named his kid after that crusty cunt Ayn Rand is enough reason to dismiss him to the well of assholes but here you go:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/12/27/395391/fact-check-ron-paul-personally-defended-racist-newsletters/

Further to that:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/ron-paul-and-the-racist-newsletters-fact-checker-biography/2011/12/21/gIQAKNiwBP_blog.html

Of course Ron Paul should be irrelevant at this point as his son is the forefront and a thousand time worse in many ways but here's another piece that breaks down this old crank's positions:

http://crooksandliars.com/kenneth-quinnell/ron-pauls-racism-isnt-worst-thing
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 14, 2014, 10:18:35 AM
meh, fuck that racist pos.  kurt would be sickened by him, so fuck that picture too.

DRINK

That's not a very funny retort.

Also, completely agree with mbw.

Well you don't go for my tl;dr comments, so I figured I'd stick to the snappy one liners like you guys.

Needless to say, I do not agree. But I get how it's totally easier to call someone with whom you don't agree a racist pos.

No, see, if I don't agree with his assertion that:

 "Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began”

or

 'Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressman. What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day."

I can indeed call him a racist pos.

Got links or are you just making that up?

I'd have to say the fact that he named his kid after that crusty cunt Ayn Rand is enough reason to dismiss him to the well of assholes but here you go:

LOL, Rand is short for Randall (http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/08/23/rand-paul-wasnt-named-after-ayn-rand-dad-confirms).

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/12/27/395391/fact-check-ron-paul-personally-defended-racist-newsletters/

ThinkProgress, that bastion of impartiality.

Further to that:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/ron-paul-and-the-racist-newsletters-fact-checker-biography/2011/12/21/gIQAKNiwBP_blog.html

I agree with Kessler: Paul did not do enough to denounce the remarks that came in the newsletters with his name on it. He should have done more to stop it, but his position is that all speech, is good (THE HORROR). But no doubt he should have made it clear that those were not his words and he should have offered a sharp rebuke. And he did a disservice to his name by trying to cover that up. Of course, the newsletter issue was never about his positions, but that doesn't really fit the narrative that well, does it.

Of course Ron Paul should be irrelevant at this point as his son is the forefront and a thousand time worse in many ways but here's another piece that breaks down this old crank's positions:

http://crooksandliars.com/kenneth-quinnell/ron-pauls-racism-isnt-worst-thing

I stopped reading when it said "Paul is very clearly aligned with the 1 percent." There isn't even a sliver of truth in that. Look at how the establishment (who is very much aligned with the 1%) came out in force against him (fuck, they even got behind Rick Sweater Vest Santorum) and the way they are attacking the Paul's and Justin Amash's of the world now.

But I agree with your point that Ron is the past and that Rand is the future of the movement (which was the whole point of Kennedy's still very solid analogy). And I definitely agree he is in no way the perfect representative (Amash, on the other hand, appears to be much closer to the real deal). But I gotta say, the way partisans on both sides are freaking out (see the near daily articles about those evil libertarians on Salon) has been pretty goddamned enjoyable for me.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 14, 2014, 12:49:29 PM
Listen to this racist pos

http://time.com/3111474/rand-paul-ferguson-police/

Quote
Rand Paul: We Must Demilitarize the Police
Anyone who thinks that race does not skew the application of criminal justice in this country is just not paying close enough attention. And the root of the problem is big government.

The shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown is an awful tragedy that continues to send shockwaves through the community of Ferguson, Missouri and across the nation.

If I had been told to get out of the street as a teenager, there would have been a distinct possibility that I might have smarted off. But, I wouldn’t have expected to be shot.

The outrage in Ferguson is understandable—though there is never an excuse for rioting or looting. There is a legitimate role for the police to keep the peace, but there should be a difference between a police response and a military response.

The images and scenes we continue to see in Ferguson resemble war more than traditional police action.

Glenn Reynolds, in Popular Mechanics, recognized the increasing militarization of the police five years ago. In 2009 he wrote:
Quote
Soldiers and police are supposed to be different. … Police look inward. They’re supposed to protect their fellow citizens from criminals, and to maintain order with a minimum of force.

It’s the difference between Audie Murphy and Andy Griffith. But nowadays, police are looking, and acting, more like soldiers than cops, with bad consequences. And those who suffer the consequences are usually innocent civilians.

The Cato Institute’s Walter Olson observed this week how the rising militarization of law enforcement is currently playing out in Ferguson:
Quote
Why armored vehicles in a Midwestern inner suburb? Why would cops wear camouflage gear against a terrain patterned by convenience stores and beauty parlors? Why are the authorities in Ferguson, Mo. so given to quasi-martial crowd control methods (such as bans on walking on the street) and, per the reporting of Riverfront Times, the firing of tear gas at people in their own yards? (“‘This my property!’ he shouted, prompting police to fire a tear gas canister directly at his face.”) Why would someone identifying himself as an 82nd Airborne Army veteran, observing the Ferguson police scene, comment that “We rolled lighter than that in an actual warzone”?

Olson added, “the dominant visual aspect of the story, however, has been the sight of overpowering police forces confronting unarmed protesters who are seen waving signs or just their hands.”

How did this happen?

Most police officers are good cops and good people. It is an unquestionably difficult job, especially in the current circumstances.

There is a systemic problem with today’s law enforcement.

Not surprisingly, big government has been at the heart of the problem. Washington has incentivized the militarization of local police precincts by using federal dollars to help municipal governments build what are essentially small armies—where police departments compete to acquire military gear that goes far beyond what most of Americans think of as law enforcement.

This is usually done in the name of fighting the war on drugs or terrorism. The Heritage Foundation’s Evan Bernick wrote in 2013 that, “the Department of Homeland Security has handed out anti-terrorism grants to cities and towns across the country, enabling them to buy armored vehicles, guns, armor, aircraft, and other equipment.”

Bernick continued, “federal agencies of all stripes, as well as local police departments in towns with populations less than 14,000, come equipped with SWAT teams and heavy artillery.”

Bernick noted the cartoonish imbalance between the equipment some police departments possess and the constituents they serve, “today, Bossier Parish, Louisiana, has a .50 caliber gun mounted on an armored vehicle. The Pentagon gives away millions of pieces of military equipment to police departments across the country—tanks included.”

When you couple this militarization of law enforcement with an erosion of civil liberties and due process that allows the police to become judge and jury—national security letters, no-knock searches, broad general warrants, pre-conviction forfeiture—we begin to have a very serious problem on our hands.

Given these developments, it is almost impossible for many Americans not to feel like their government is targeting them. Given the racial disparities in our criminal justice system, it is impossible for African-Americans not to feel like their government is particularly targeting them.

This is part of the anguish we are seeing in the tragic events outside of St. Louis, Missouri. It is what the citizens of Ferguson feel when there is an unfortunate and heartbreaking shooting like the incident with Michael Brown.

Anyone who thinks that race does not still, even if inadvertently, skew the application of criminal justice in this country is just not paying close enough attention. Our prisons are full of black and brown men and women who are serving inappropriately long and harsh sentences for non-violent mistakes in their youth.

The militarization of our law enforcement is due to an unprecedented expansion of government power in this realm. It is one thing for federal officials to work in conjunction with local authorities to reduce or solve crime. It is quite another for them to subsidize it.

Americans must never sacrifice their liberty for an illusive and dangerous, or false, security. This has been a cause I have championed for years, and one that is at a near-crisis point in our country.

Let us continue to pray for Michael Brown’s family, the people of Ferguson, police, and citizens alike.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on August 14, 2014, 01:00:41 PM
Quote
Why would someone identifying himself as an 82nd Airborne Army veteran, observing the Ferguson police scene, comment that “We rolled lighter than that in an actual warzone"
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on August 14, 2014, 01:55:37 PM
Props to Paul on that.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 14, 2014, 02:13:42 PM
I love that an mtv VJ that was never particularly relevant because she was an mtv VJ is somehow a mouthpiece for a "movement".

In the 21st century libertianism is little more than anarchy for rich white people.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on August 14, 2014, 02:20:45 PM
Hey, I used to kinda have a crush on Kennedy.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 14, 2014, 02:32:57 PM
I love that an mtv VJ that was never particularly relevant because she was an mtv VJ is somehow a mouthpiece for a "movement".

Who made her the mouthpiece? The only reason her name came up is cause she made a (solid) analogy in a 6,600 word article about libertarians in which she was named exactly 12 times (that's 0.2% for those keeping score). Cool scare quotes tho.

In the 21st century libertianism is little more than anarchy for rich white people.

You know how silly it sounds when people say "Obama is a socialist?" This reminds me of that.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on August 14, 2014, 02:44:55 PM
I love that an mtv VJ that was never particularly relevant because she was an mtv VJ is somehow a mouthpiece for a "movement".

Who made her the mouthpiece? The only reason her name came up is cause she made a (solid) analogy in a 6,600 word article about libertarians in which she was named exactly 12 times (that's 0.2% for those keeping score). Cool scare quotes tho.

In the 21st century libertianism is little more than anarchy for rich white people.

You know how silly it sounds when people say "Obama is a socialist?" This reminds me of that.

Those aren't scare quotes, that's me belittling people.

Also you just compared hyperbole to a lie.
Slick.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 14, 2014, 03:06:43 PM
I love that an mtv VJ that was never particularly relevant because she was an mtv VJ is somehow a mouthpiece for a "movement".

Who made her the mouthpiece? The only reason her name came up is cause she made a (solid) analogy in a 6,600 word article about libertarians in which she was named exactly 12 times (that's 0.2% for those keeping score). Cool scare quotes tho.

In the 21st century libertianism is little more than anarchy for rich white people.

You know how silly it sounds when people say "Obama is a socialist?" This reminds me of that.

Those aren't scare quotes, that's me belittling people.

Also you just compared hyperbole to a lie.
Slick.

Yes, there's a lot of that "belittling" going around (I'm sure it wasn't me, though, just people). As I said, it's quite "enjoyable" watching the "collective panic" from both "progressives" and "conservatives."
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on August 14, 2014, 04:23:34 PM
meh, fuck that racist pos.  kurt would be sickened by him, so fuck that picture too.

DRINK

That's not a very funny retort.

Also, completely agree with mbw.

Well you don't go for my tl;dr comments, so I figured I'd stick to the snappy one liners like you guys.

Needless to say, I do not agree. But I get how it's totally easier to call someone with whom you don't agree a racist pos.

No, see, if I don't agree with his assertion that:

 "Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began”

or

 'Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressman. What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day."

I can indeed call him a racist pos.

Got links or are you just making that up?


Am I to believe that you have never heard of the controversy of the Ron Paul Newsletter? 
That is about as believable that Ron Paul didn't write or approve the contents of The Ron Paul Newsletter published By Ron Paul and Associates of which Ron Paul was the president, duh, of which made him a bunch of money.

Do I really need to google that for you?

Do I need to google for you his voting record on making MLK Day a national holiday?  I can save you the time by letting you know he voted Nay, both times it was brought to vote.  I mean I can link you to it, but I'm pretty sure this isn't news to you.

Please let me know if you still require links.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 14, 2014, 05:14:16 PM
meh, fuck that racist pos.  kurt would be sickened by him, so fuck that picture too.

DRINK

That's not a very funny retort.

Also, completely agree with mbw.

Well you don't go for my tl;dr comments, so I figured I'd stick to the snappy one liners like you guys.

Needless to say, I do not agree. But I get how it's totally easier to call someone with whom you don't agree a racist pos.

No, see, if I don't agree with his assertion that:

 "Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began”

or

 'Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressman. What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day."

I can indeed call him a racist pos.

Got links or are you just making that up?


Am I to believe that you have never heard of the controversy of the Ron Paul Newsletter? 
That is about as believable that Ron Paul didn't write or approve the contents of The Ron Paul Newsletter published By Ron Paul and Associates of which Ron Paul was the president, duh, of which made him a bunch of money.

Do I really need to google that for you?

Do I need to google for you his voting record on making MLK Day a national holiday?  I can save you the time by letting you know he voted Nay, both times it was brought to vote.  I mean I can link you to it, but I'm pretty sure this isn't news to you.

Please let me know if you still require links.

Yeah, I skipped the second quote after I LOL'd at the first (which I didn't recognize), but who could forget Hate Whitey Day. See my response to RJ about the WaPo Fact Checker article on the same subject above.

And yes, I am aware of his votes against MLK Holiday. But let me ask, have you ever tried to understand his thinking behind the vote, or, for that matter, his comments that he would have opposed portions of the Civil Rights Act (you forgot that one)? I mean, the guy voted no on a lot of bills. Do you think, maybe, there might have been a principled or logical reasoning behind those votes? You know, other than just "fuck all the brown people?" Because if not, you are assuming you know what is in his heart (i.e., he's a racist pos) because he voted/would have voted in a way you find incompatible with your worldview.

I'm not saying you should agree with him, I'm saying calling him a racist pos without even trying to understand the thinking behind his votes/comments (and using them out of context to garner political support for your team) is fucking bush league.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 14, 2014, 05:20:02 PM
I have absolutely nothing to add to this dialogue but I find it a pretty entertaining read, I have to say.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on August 14, 2014, 05:47:37 PM
meh, fuck that racist pos.  kurt would be sickened by him, so fuck that picture too.

DRINK

That's not a very funny retort.

Also, completely agree with mbw.

Well you don't go for my tl;dr comments, so I figured I'd stick to the snappy one liners like you guys.

Needless to say, I do not agree. But I get how it's totally easier to call someone with whom you don't agree a racist pos.

No, see, if I don't agree with his assertion that:

 "Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began”

or

 'Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressman. What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day."

I can indeed call him a racist pos.

Got links or are you just making that up?


Am I to believe that you have never heard of the controversy of the Ron Paul Newsletter? 
That is about as believable that Ron Paul didn't write or approve the contents of The Ron Paul Newsletter published By Ron Paul and Associates of which Ron Paul was the president, duh, of which made him a bunch of money.

Do I really need to google that for you?

Do I need to google for you his voting record on making MLK Day a national holiday?  I can save you the time by letting you know he voted Nay, both times it was brought to vote.  I mean I can link you to it, but I'm pretty sure this isn't news to you.

Please let me know if you still require links.

Yeah, I skipped the second quote after I LOL'd at the first (which I didn't recognize), but who could forget Hate Whitey Day. See my response to RJ about the WaPo Fact Checker article on the same subject above.

And yes, I am aware of his votes against MLK Holiday. But let me ask, have you ever tried to understand his thinking behind the vote, or, for that matter, his comments that he would have opposed portions of the Civil Rights Act (you forgot that one)? I mean, the guy voted no on a lot of bills. Do you think, maybe, there might have been a principled or logical reasoning behind those votes? You know, other than just "fuck all the brown people?" Because if not, you are assuming you know what is in his heart (i.e., he's a racist pos) because he voted/would have voted in a way you find incompatible with your worldview.

I'm not saying you should agree with him, I'm saying calling him a racist pos without even trying to understand the thinking behind his votes/comments (and using them out of context to garner political support for your team) is fucking bush league.

I would love to read his rationale on voting against MLK day.  Got any links?  I'm sure it will be a hoot.
You really believe he did not know the contents of and/or author (http://www.vice.com/read/yeah-ron-paul-is-racist-after-all-sorry) The Ron Paul Newsletter? There is a fabulous bridge for sale in nearby Brooklyn, might be a good investment for you.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 14, 2014, 07:57:23 PM
Trimmed. That was getting ridiculous. And it's about to get worse.

I would love to read his rationale on voting against MLK day.  Got any links?  I'm sure it will be a hoot.

I can't seem to find any links; all that comes up is "Ron Paul is such a tremendous racist he voted against MLK Day." Weird. But I have heard him address it in the past and the line of thinking goes like this: MLK Day would have been a paid holiday for gov't employees and he didn't believe that was appropriate since King was never a gov't employee. He would have been ok with it if it were unpaid and has no problem with paid gov't holidays for president's day and whatnot, but it was different for MLK. Agree with his reasoning or not, but it's pretty clear (to me, at least) that this was simply about principle and not because he's a racist pos. Similar line of thinking (principled vs. pure evil) on the Civil Rights Act: he was in favor of abolishing Jim Crow, but he wouldn't have supported the law in whole because it would have violated the property and contract rights and privacy of millions of Americans. (Plenty (http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/05/ron_paul_would_have_voted_against_civil_rights_act.html) of links (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/01/ron-paul-civil-rights-act_n_1178688.html) on that one (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/ron-paul-i-would-em-not-em-have-voted-for-the-1964-civil-rights-act-video) BTW) You want to say he's a misguided old fool for believing that, that's a different discussion. All I'm saying is I think you go too far by declaring him an unequivocal racist.

You really believe he did not know the contents of and/or author (http://www.vice.com/read/yeah-ron-paul-is-racist-after-all-sorry) The Ron Paul Newsletter? There is a fabulous bridge for sale in nearby Brooklyn, might be a good investment for you.

No, he knew the author:  Lew Rockwell (as your link mentions, it's been well "established" in libertarian circles this was the case for some time). Rockwell was at one point a senior advisor (maybe even campaign manager?) to Paul and he most certainly shaped his thinking with regard to economic policy. Rockwell's idea, developed with the godfather of anarcho-capitalism (an extreme branch of libertarianism to which I do not subscribe), Murray Rothbard, was to create fear and distrust of gov't and decided on this strategy of trying to stoke racial tensions to create unrest, hence the indescribably vile shit put forth in those newsletters. I don't think Rockwell has ever admitted this directly, but I think it's pretty universally accepted in the circles I run in. (FWIW, Paul's economic beliefs, as well as mine, were influenced by FA Hayek well more than Rothbard. Actually, Ron kinda created his own school combining the two. But now I'm really getting away from anything resembling a point.)

I do believe that Ron didn't know everything in the newsletters. Rockwell was his a friend and adviser and was a trusted piece of Ron's infrastructure. Also, FWIW, by almost all accounts I've read on him (not many), Rockwell himself is actually a very nice guy and people say they find it hard to believe that Rockwell believed the shit he wrote (although admittedly he is at least a candidate scumbag for even contemplating such a strategy).

So yes, I can believe Ron allowed Rockwell to publish under his name without reviewing what went out. But I also have no little doubt that he learned about it at some point and I do hold him responsible for (a) not putting a stop to it and/or (b) disclosing this was not his thinking but that, as I mentioned above, he felt any speech, even speech as hateful and deplorable as Rockwell's, is essential for a free society. But more than that, I think Ron's response of trying to deny/cover up/obfuscate once these newsletters came out years later was a terrible mistake and I wish he'd handled that differently (admittedly for somewhat personal reasons, because when your "movement's" standard bearer is labeled a racist, it discredits us all). I understand why he did it:  he didn't want to throw his friend under the bus. And I think there is something honorable in that (assuming Rockwell didn't actually harbor those beliefs but was instead playing a "character;" if there was any indication that Rockwell was/is a racist, he can pull a Neely). The situation clearly called for a much stronger repudiation of the extraordinary racism that was published under his name, and he did/could/would not do that. And he was unquestionably stupid and justifiably brought the racist pos label upon himself (unfounded as it may be, IMO).

One last thing, strip away all the politics and there is an undeniable fact:  the single biggest federal policy that does by FAR the most harm to minorities everywhere, particularly African Americans, is the War on Drugs. Ron Paul would have been the best executive vis-à-vis the Drug War since that ill-conceived and racist policy was implemented. I'm not even saying he would have single-handedly ended it, but his beliefs on the inherent inequity and social injustice would produce a far greater outcome than anything since our racist-ass Founders grew that shit on Mt. Vernon. Thankfully the rest of our elected officials appear to be catching up to him, albeit at an entirely unacceptable pace.

tl;dr

Now let me see that bridge you're talking about.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on August 14, 2014, 09:08:12 PM
wow, that's a whole lotta bullshit!
must get tiring defending this racist pos and his gun toting, woman-hating homophobe son.   :-D
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 14, 2014, 10:08:31 PM
Lulz

You really want to hate Ron Paul I'll have to tell you sometime about the monthly AR-15 giveaway they've been doing. Although you were the one who wanted to arm all the muthafuckas, so...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on August 29, 2014, 11:17:54 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/PUrDpz3.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 29, 2014, 11:52:54 AM
Smart take
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Mr. Natural on September 01, 2014, 12:39:04 PM
For all the unarmed black men who've been buried.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwUe2itIUAA5OTf.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 09, 2014, 10:28:41 PM
For fucks' sake

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxItfjVIIAARiM1.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on September 11, 2014, 11:42:57 AM
Banksy, ftw.

(http://i.imgur.com/9JV0Q7U.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: whatthecello42 on September 21, 2014, 04:46:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuSWN_EG6CE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuSWN_EG6CE)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 24, 2014, 10:36:14 AM
Aww, they look so cute together.

Quote
‏@GS10KWomen (https://twitter.com/GS10KWomen/status/514571055051317248)
$GS' Lloyd Blankfein & @HillaryClinton at Women Entrepreneurs #CGI2014 dinner hosted by #10KWomen cc @ClintonGlobal

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByQfpeZIcAAZ9EN.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 24, 2014, 04:39:49 PM
Helpful warsplainer is helpful

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByUzrgoCMAAkFcq.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on September 25, 2014, 02:49:36 PM
^^^ And that's why I don't pay attention to the news anymore.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on September 25, 2014, 04:08:35 PM
Wow, I haven't checked this thread in a while. Solid work lately.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on October 06, 2014, 06:02:05 PM
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Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on October 10, 2014, 04:49:17 PM
GMOs are bad. What's a GMO?

http://youtu.be/EzEr23XJwFY
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on October 13, 2014, 05:15:52 PM
Happy Horrible Holiday!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKEwL-10s7E
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on October 27, 2014, 06:00:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hmfBtk0WaE
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on October 27, 2014, 10:05:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBx2Y5HhplI
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 10, 2014, 02:18:06 PM
Kinda shocked this isn't bigger news

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2GeBdXCMAAg-yf.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on November 14, 2014, 04:55:26 PM
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/115922/lightbox/Kos-People.png?1415900779)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 23, 2014, 08:39:23 PM
SNL goes after Obama on immigration. But don't worry, WaPo fact checked it for you (http://wapo.st/1pbTt4R) in case you weren't sure if what SNL is doing these days constitutes as comedy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUDSeb2zHQ0&list=UUqFzWxSCi39LnW1JKFR3efg
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on November 24, 2014, 08:54:31 PM
All presidents in recent history have expanded their power beyond was was assumed 50 - 100 years ago, not to mention the 1700s.

I don't think that in this case BO did anything that his predecessors haven't done. I agree with those who say that this wasn't the best way to make points with and incoming congress and new Senate Majority Leader.
On the other hand, the past 6 years tells me that there is absolutely nothing short of resigning that the GOP wouldn't give him a hard time over. They would argue if he called the sky blue
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on November 24, 2014, 09:18:10 PM
Come on, sls. It's not about past presidents; it's about what this one was supposed to be and what he has become (that's not fair; he was pretty much the same guy the day he took the oath).

To be honest, it's the media's response to it that has me the most disgusted. Fact checking a SNL skit? What a joke. I'll have to go back and read all those Tina Fey/Palin fact checks WaPo and Politifact and the like put out. "Did you know Gerald Ford didn't actually fall down a flight of stairs?" Mind = blown

I just wish this guy would have won.

http://youtu.be/EuCUGXFsEn4
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 25, 2014, 09:32:01 AM
I like this....

http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/read/100-people-around-the-country-are-stamping-predator-drones-on-cash (http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/read/100-people-around-the-country-are-stamping-predator-drones-on-cash)

(http://i.imgur.com/5NSBaa4.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/edNy9x3.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZaMjVpD.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on November 25, 2014, 09:42:01 AM
forgot about this thread.  moving my post from the police thread

putting this here just cause.
i was watching this guy streaming live last night, when all of a sudden there was a bunch of commotion and running.
turns out dude got his phone jacked.    :angel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWkTAqmJUwc
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on November 25, 2014, 01:12:04 PM
Come on, sls. It's not about past presidents; it's about what this one was supposed to be and what he has become (that's not fair; he was pretty much the same guy the day he took the oath).

To be honest, it's the media's response to it that has me the most disgusted. Fact checking a SNL skit? What a joke. I'll have to go back and read all those Tina Fey/Palin fact checks WaPo and Politifact and the like put out. "Did you know Gerald Ford didn't actually fall down a flight of stairs?" Mind = blown

I just wish this guy would have won.

http://youtu.be/EuCUGXFsEn4
I agree with you.
My major point is the shocked and stunned GOP are major hypocrites because they allowed their own guy to do it, not that any president should be allowed to ( I think not). And, Obama would fall in that category too as he would likely complain as Senator if Pres Bush or McCain did it.

and I missed your major point, but agree, that the political media has become a total joke.

and finally, I agree about the guy that "should have won"

historical footnote. Jefferson frequently warned about the dangers of a strong central govt and a strong president.
that is, of course, until he became president and expanded the powers of that office.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on November 29, 2014, 08:52:45 AM
(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1533807_10151880071843061_335060372_n.jpg?oh=1bced682e5c8fb67544fe77c20875a8d&oe=550CB0F1)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on November 29, 2014, 06:21:38 PM
 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on December 14, 2014, 05:08:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/DKOj8g9.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on December 15, 2014, 12:48:41 PM
My love/hate relationships, ranked:

3. Trey
2. Liz Warren
1. Donovan McNabb

The setup takes a long time to get there, but the Jack Lew slam is a thing of beauty.

http://youtu.be/DJpTxONxvoo
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on December 18, 2014, 10:26:45 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/xurwq3q.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on January 13, 2015, 11:49:34 AM
(http://www.nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/the-simpsons-charlie-hebdo.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on January 13, 2015, 01:30:53 PM
My love/hate relationships, ranked:

3. Trey
2. Liz Warren
1. Donovan McNabb


It's nice to finally see you acknowledge that your politics are a manifestation of unresolved personal issues.  :-P

 :wink:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on January 20, 2015, 11:19:32 AM
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s526x395/10348468_274024286112787_193279204034198672_n.jpg?oh=46a1b6f99844fd84bebea39b6274944c&oe=552460AC)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on January 20, 2015, 08:42:21 PM
from the white house FB page.  i really hope its true.

Quote
President Obama's suiting up for the big speech. Watch at 9pm ET → wh.gov/SOTU #YesWeTan #SOTU

(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12862_10153151843449238_8351703266947356269_n.jpg?oh=8ac56b1ee72ab4a2ed2df2ac61ece016&oe=55667B8C)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on January 21, 2015, 11:39:48 AM
^^^ Pimpin ain't easy!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on January 25, 2015, 07:11:34 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/p480x480/10945622_1070303982995112_2783161930646017901_n.jpg?oh=f3ff68865e37520a84e57cabef076124&oe=552438FE&__gda__=1433205295_4bd05616aa5e0a7d67891f1f899c7152)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on January 25, 2015, 02:26:40 PM
Details...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on January 28, 2015, 04:35:18 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/7d2slb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on January 30, 2015, 07:38:05 AM
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10955348_10153593207923327_8717439524404360768_n.jpg?oh=45dbcd312b8c77e644287b2ba776c258&oe=555E1AEF)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on February 12, 2015, 08:34:35 PM
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2015-02/12/2/enhanced/webdr06/anigif_enhanced-31304-1423724429-17.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: zimbra on February 21, 2015, 11:49:41 AM
^^^^  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on March 02, 2015, 10:22:19 AM
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--sYgw9tFF--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/plc8gvrolesn4n6lroy4.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on March 19, 2015, 07:37:06 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/11080796_10153206918004255_3159295074502480605_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on March 31, 2015, 05:27:57 PM
This is probably old, but I hadn't seen it before. Thought it was awesome.

https://youtu.be/Jl--YVnni0I
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 31, 2015, 06:35:55 PM
This is probably old, but I hadn't seen it before. Thought it was awesome.

https://youtu.be/Jl--YVnni0I

That was great.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on April 08, 2015, 01:48:26 PM
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Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on April 08, 2015, 07:40:08 PM
Rand Paul's campaign is going great so far.

First, his announcement video was blocked by youtube due to copyright infringement of a song in it:

(http://www.ringoffireradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paul-video-block.png)

Then he retweeted a pic of James Holmes, you know, guy who shot 12 people dead in Aurora CO,  shopped (poorly) to look like he was holding this sign:

(http://www.ringoffireradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/rqkepvuv5ew6zenjywww.jpg)

His website also displays the name of new donors.  The latest?  Taco Bonerstink:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCAULA9WEAAPIOw.jpg:large)


Keep up the good work, fuckface.

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on April 09, 2015, 12:00:42 AM
Bernie just quasi-announced on Larry Wilmore's show.


Also: Barbie McGrouchomask?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on April 09, 2015, 06:59:48 AM
This is probably old, but I hadn't seen it before. Thought it was awesome.

https://youtu.be/Jl--YVnni0I
just got a chance to see this now
fantastic
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on April 16, 2015, 02:16:58 AM
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/138665/large/Tweet_of_the_Midday.png?1429120160)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on April 27, 2015, 02:28:12 PM
Two great Daily Show clips from last week.

The rank hypocrisy of a system that can punish teachers who cheated with up to 20 yrs in jail while similarly systemic cheating on Wall Street - which resulted in far greater suffering -  goes virtually unpunished.

http://on.cc.com/1K7KoQV

And the Frankenpotato (I'm particularly partial to the bit at the end where scientist guy mentions the very regulations anti-GMOers seek to impose only enable an environment where the Monsantos and other agribusiness giants can thrive).

http://on.cc.com/1EuydP7
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on April 28, 2015, 11:16:22 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/mY9A0Ua.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 28, 2015, 11:37:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/mY9A0Ua.jpg)


Ha! What a twat.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on April 29, 2015, 05:39:28 PM
Brilliant

http://youtu.be/SOxdMoBHSJ4
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 04, 2015, 02:04:31 PM
bwahahaha!!

http://carlyfiorina.org/ (http://carlyfiorina.org/)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on May 28, 2015, 09:14:35 PM
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11108676_10153401105309255_5448259302832203602_n.jpg?oh=fad144e0b6178543b7d37ca861f2d7fc&oe=55C326E4)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on May 28, 2015, 09:43:28 PM
I can't get over that Fiorina gaffe. She was CEO of a tech company, for fuck's sake. How can you expect to be taken seriously when you're that bad at your damn job?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 29, 2015, 09:30:06 AM
I can't get over that Fiorina gaffe. She was CEO of a tech company, for fuck's sake. How can you expect to be taken seriously when you're that bad at your damn job?

Carly is a joke. She always has been. The biggest move she ever made was the Compaq acquisition... and HP is about to split into two companies to finally fix that major fuck up.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on June 03, 2015, 02:19:28 PM
 :wtu:


(http://i.imgur.com/MNAmhNt.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on June 22, 2015, 05:27:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/4LUfhJS.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on June 22, 2015, 05:35:15 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=saDmuon6tCg
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on June 23, 2015, 04:44:36 PM
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/17689_10153490309951929_1298331512915965155_n.jpg?oh=8643f25128f72536a10214c1fdd555f9&oe=55ED96D2)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on June 23, 2015, 09:14:15 PM
https://www.facebook.com/youngparis/videos/490803234401060/?fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/youngparis/videos/490803234401060/?fref=nf)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on June 24, 2015, 12:42:42 AM
https://www.facebook.com/youngparis/videos/490803234401060/?fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/youngparis/videos/490803234401060/?fref=nf)

 :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on June 25, 2015, 09:36:45 AM
What a dummass.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIWFYC_WsAAZ9xf.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on June 27, 2015, 03:15:01 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11201907_10205409844660673_4591314051483720834_n.jpg?oh=6cb68cfa52916dd101a5b4f8f07c2531&oe=5623F790)

Congrats for joining Western Civilization. It's about fucking time you guys did.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Mr. Natural on June 28, 2015, 12:07:55 AM
(http://i2.wp.com/boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/gaygenerallee.jpg?resize=600%2C338)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on June 28, 2015, 02:09:28 AM
(http://i2.wp.com/boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/gaygenerallee.jpg?resize=600%2C338)

 :clap:  :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on July 01, 2015, 06:21:45 PM
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/151422/large/bo150630.png?1435692192)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 03, 2015, 11:12:39 AM
TOOK ER JOBS

https://youtu.be/FHNk0-7hW3U
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on August 06, 2015, 01:10:25 AM
(http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.10701476.1438602273!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/display_960/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on August 07, 2015, 11:49:56 AM
The best 29 secs of your day

https://youtu.be/fo7P1ERN5uY
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 20, 2015, 02:48:29 PM
This clip is so incredible, I just had to share it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHejwGXwi8A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHejwGXwi8A)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mehead on August 20, 2015, 04:04:43 PM
The best 29 secs of your day

https://youtu.be/fo7P1ERN5uY

Yup. I LOL.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on August 31, 2015, 04:24:36 PM
This clip is so incredible, I just had to share it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHejwGXwi8A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHejwGXwi8A)

I liked it.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on August 31, 2015, 05:43:00 PM
^^  thats the goods.

On the lighter side I offer Trump saying China 250 different times

https://youtu.be/RDrfE9I8_hs
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on August 31, 2015, 09:48:25 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNwP9GXVEAAY16c.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on September 04, 2015, 07:20:37 PM
(https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/LqpCQyT9KPr8vVXBmCB2DZ-X_4U=/800x0/filters:no_upscale%28%29/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4027016/all%20lives%20matter%20cartoon.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 04, 2015, 08:39:54 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNwP9GXVEAAY16c.png)

I mean, Ted Cruz and Tom Cruise are both shite in my book.

This guy tho

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vwCRmg9eKGs/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on September 11, 2015, 01:17:18 AM
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/10850057_883541065057074_2690518253624476306_n.jpg?oh=05e49eef066526d23e0c12883643a8d2&oe=56647333)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on September 15, 2015, 10:22:13 AM
...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on September 22, 2015, 06:53:38 PM
https://youtu.be/NAtunJv6NtE

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-the-honest-politician-crash-the-2016-election#/story
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on October 13, 2015, 09:41:15 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Yx2TF2b.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Undermind on November 03, 2015, 07:53:07 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/5ylItxy.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on November 17, 2015, 10:52:32 AM
Holy shit yes!!

http://verysmartbrothas.com/president-obama-saying-pop-off-at-a-press-conference-is-the-blackest-thing-that-ever-happened-this-week/ (http://verysmartbrothas.com/president-obama-saying-pop-off-at-a-press-conference-is-the-blackest-thing-that-ever-happened-this-week/)

Quote

PRESIDENT OBAMA’S “FOLKS WANNA POP OFF” IS THE BLACKEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED THIS WEEK

During a press conference this morning, President Obama used the term “pop off” in reference to people making uninformed and patently ridiculous claims about what should be done with France and ISIS. And, unless I go outside today and witness a Sojourner Truth hologram double dutching with Marilyn Mosby, I’m very confident in declaring that the Black president dismissively referring to his haters the exact same way Loretha Lyon or Draymond Green or your barber or your best friend or you would have will be the Blackest thing that ever happened this week.

So Black, in fact, that instead of attempting to determine and assess exactly how Black it was, I’m more interested in how “folks wanna pop off” found its way into the President’s lexicon. Does he possess a reservoir of culturally relevant slang terms and colloquialisms that he employs when White people aren’t around? We know he code switches — we see it with every seven-step handshake, and his rendition of Amazing Grace during Rev. Clementa Pinckney’s eulogy is a first-ballot entry in the Code Switch Hall of Fame — but he’s also a 54-year-old man who hoops in Sam’s Club Nikes and tucks his shirt into his sweatpants. (No. seriously. He does.) He is, and will always be, cool in a macro sense. But, in micro sense, he, again, is a 54-year-old man who hoops in Sam’s Club Nikes and tucks his shirt into his sweatpants. This is not what cool people do. Cool people do, however, reflexively use “pop off” to address haters. President Obama is a paradox.

Anyway, this leads me to believe that at least one of the following is true:

1. He heard of one his daughters using it last week. (Probably Sasha. Actually, definitely Sasha. There’s no doubt it was Sasha.)

2. President Obama has a third unreleased and unshared #POTUSPlaylist that’s composed of nothing but SMACK/URL rap battles, and he listens to it before any press conference where ISIS and Ben Carson’s name might be brought up. And, if it would have lasted five minutes longer, he would have found a way to work “ISIS is gonna get this work” in there too.

3. We’ve kinda suspected it before, but President Obama genuinely gives no fucks at this point. He is fuck devoid. Fuck deficient. Fuck deprived. Fuck destitute. His cupboard of fucks is barren; his tank of fucks has been depleted. You know how, on cloudy nights, you might look up into the vast and endless sky and not find any stars? The same thing would happen if you looked at Obama and searched for fucks. And this, this total absence of fucks, is where pop off came from.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: whatthecello42 on November 19, 2015, 03:38:45 PM
(http://www.thecitizen.in/NewsImages/986641Trlised.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on November 25, 2015, 09:54:19 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12107722_1093160167380951_758561757615635424_n.jpg?oh=701ad168ec37aceeb595d45ec03e1acc&oe=56FA1A72)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on November 25, 2015, 11:03:41 AM
Memorizing the second half of that for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on December 10, 2015, 10:03:37 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12347874_1013738115329781_7425817734396859613_n.png?oh=a0bd4b716d4731ee21d2472bcf322365&oe=56EDBBCB)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on December 14, 2015, 08:04:50 AM
(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12342380_866770413429889_9212396148318811102_n.jpg?oh=e3eab86b10ebc2630e3ee2b31881874e&oe=5717D8D8)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on December 15, 2015, 05:30:19 PM
 :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on December 15, 2015, 07:43:34 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/MQWZ2l9.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on December 17, 2015, 10:51:06 PM
Saw this today and thought it was incredible...

https://www.facebook.com/CollectiveEvolutionPage/videos/10153699103123908/ (https://www.facebook.com/CollectiveEvolutionPage/videos/10153699103123908/)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on December 18, 2015, 10:59:15 AM
(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/t31.0-8/12362803_1086196758080491_203382862186570336_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on December 23, 2015, 04:01:47 PM
 :-D
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on January 07, 2016, 11:15:25 PM
YES!!!!

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mehead on January 07, 2016, 11:51:01 PM
 :clap:

That's got future lot shirt written all over it
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on January 08, 2016, 10:23:15 AM
that will be all over lot this summer, will have to pick one up for memorabilia purposes.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on January 08, 2016, 10:27:46 AM
Newly released transcripts confirm it: Slick Willy was THE BEST

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYNOf-DW8AADplh.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on January 08, 2016, 10:43:37 AM
Tell me that's real.
Be straight with me but tell me that's real.

Damn, I hope that's real.

If it's real it's the best thing ever.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on January 08, 2016, 10:59:24 AM
Tell me that's real.
Be straight with me but tell me that's real.

Damn, I hope that's real.

If it's real it's the best thing ever.

It's from the Internet, so you never know. I haven't been able to find actual copies of the transcripts so I can't confirm for sure but it's Friday so I'm gonna go with totally real.  I got it from this dude (https://twitter.com/feldmike/status/685477879862407168).

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on January 08, 2016, 11:44:11 AM
Tell me that's real.
Be straight with me but tell me that's real.

Damn, I hope that's real.

If it's real it's the best thing ever.

It's from the Internet, so you never know. I haven't been able to find actual copies of the transcripts so I can't confirm for sure but it's Friday so I'm gonna go with totally real.  I got it from this dude (https://twitter.com/feldmike/status/685477879862407168).

He says it's satire.

It's still amazing.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on January 08, 2016, 11:48:01 AM
Tell me that's real.
Be straight with me but tell me that's real.

Damn, I hope that's real.

If it's real it's the best thing ever.

It's from the Internet, so you never know. I haven't been able to find actual copies of the transcripts so I can't confirm for sure but it's Friday so I'm gonna go with totally real.  I got it from this dude (https://twitter.com/feldmike/status/685477879862407168).

He says it's satire.

It's still amazing.

Damn, didn't see that update.

Fuck it, I still say it's real despite all evidence to the contrary.

ETA: some of the other hilarious fake Bill transcripts can be found here (https://t.co/k6PTs9e2ye)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: fastfingers12 on January 11, 2016, 07:05:58 PM
YES!!!!

Haha. That is awesome!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on January 12, 2016, 02:41:05 PM
Just seen on fb:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on January 14, 2016, 06:07:31 AM
This clip a little long but totally worth the watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3NKvvxcSs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3NKvvxcSs)


Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on January 19, 2016, 04:37:00 PM
Not really political, but ...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on January 19, 2016, 06:04:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/L2qruyJ.png)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on February 03, 2016, 05:28:31 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7Zel6brj76hLAgRW/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on February 04, 2016, 02:05:46 AM
 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on February 07, 2016, 11:26:36 AM
Holy fuck this is just the greatest thing I've ever seen...

http://youtu.be/HrgeslpPZnk (http://youtu.be/HrgeslpPZnk)

Also..

(http://i.imgur.com/pGv2MJr.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on February 07, 2016, 12:00:57 PM
No, this is

http://youtu.be/nn4tP7ogWIA
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on February 07, 2016, 01:06:46 PM
You're both right.

Holy shit, are you ever.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on February 17, 2016, 12:47:04 PM
No, this is


http://youtu.be/AVIlZzOh1nQ
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on February 17, 2016, 05:18:55 PM
Don't get trapped

https://vine.co/v/iviEA1PxJDq
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on February 20, 2016, 12:18:44 PM
!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on February 26, 2016, 05:22:54 PM
lulz...

(http://i.imgur.com/9CBJvFf.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: fastfingers12 on February 27, 2016, 11:59:59 PM
HA!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on February 29, 2016, 02:13:41 PM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12800156_10208392973169985_420867614947376657_n.jpg?oh=8fa2fc5acf12083d0f18d3ecb5bb2d6c&oe=576B8C76)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on February 29, 2016, 02:54:48 PM
lulz...

(http://i.imgur.com/9CBJvFf.jpg)

That's apparently from a bar in Austin. You know it?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: zimbra on February 29, 2016, 10:18:43 PM
"some warm milk and an ambien"  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: EdBanky on March 01, 2016, 12:22:44 AM
It has to be from Austin. People here love Lone Star and a Fernet. Lone Star is my jam, but keep that disgusting listerine backwash they call Fernet away from me.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on March 01, 2016, 12:10:01 PM
Friend made these to pass out at the caucus tonight
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: sunrisevt on March 01, 2016, 02:14:03 PM
 :music:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: birdman on March 02, 2016, 09:29:48 AM
http://trumpdonald.org
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on March 02, 2016, 12:23:18 PM
http://trumpdonald.org

+K for that my friend.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on March 02, 2016, 08:24:09 PM
https://youtu.be/MlxzmJBa-Pc (https://youtu.be/MlxzmJBa-Pc)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on March 05, 2016, 12:56:12 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12814075_986626684763419_2604126982094648571_n.jpg?oh=d1c881a2792619816a635869f04724be&oe=575C6A58)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on March 05, 2016, 12:58:51 AM
http://trumpdonald.org

+K for that my friend.

My kids love this, too.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on March 05, 2016, 01:16:23 AM
https://youtu.be/en_s2QnAgBE
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on March 05, 2016, 02:53:25 AM
http://trumpdonald.org

+K for that my friend.

My kids love this, too.

 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

That's awesome! 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on March 07, 2016, 06:37:33 AM
(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/11951853_10153231569998759_2406511276200097326_n.jpg?oh=5016cb1c60b72dd5a1792bc0e03820a9&oe=574A9680)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on March 09, 2016, 07:37:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiG0AE8zdTU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiG0AE8zdTU)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 10, 2016, 06:28:10 PM
currently banned on FB, Trump and his micro-peen.

http://imgur.com/teDNn0F
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on March 11, 2016, 07:37:36 AM
Ted Zeppelin

Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 11, 2016, 09:41:10 AM
God damn you, PG, don't take Led Zeppelin away from me!

The Bonham one almost looks real.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 11, 2016, 11:27:06 AM
God damn you, PG, don't take Led Zeppelin away from me!

The Bonham one almost looks real.

says the guy who continues to wreck my image of kurt cobain.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: fastfingers12 on March 11, 2016, 11:56:48 AM
I can't quit looking at it...
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 11, 2016, 12:32:43 PM
God damn you, PG, don't take Led Zeppelin away from me!

The Bonham one almost looks real.

says the guy who continues to wreck my image of kurt cobain.

HA!

Sorry, fixed it for you
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 11, 2016, 02:27:35 PM
God damn you, PG, don't take Led Zeppelin away from me!

The Bonham one almost looks real.

says the guy who continues to wreck my image of kurt cobain.

HA!

Sorry, fixed it for you

much better.  it is too.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 12, 2016, 07:58:15 PM
(http://i.giphy.com/3ornjLQKtRmH5qmeQw.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 12, 2016, 08:03:06 PM
Quote
I'm not saying Ted Cruz might be the lead singer of Stryper. I'm saying he's DEFINITELY the lead singer of Stryper.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZwCNUp5.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on March 13, 2016, 10:31:26 PM
Do with this what you will.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on March 14, 2016, 11:19:37 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/1512514_457502761116493_18322551406195458_n.jpg?oh=08bedbec941351287c118a12271a8034&oe=579345A1)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on March 14, 2016, 01:29:20 PM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/1512514_457502761116493_18322551406195458_n.jpg?oh=08bedbec941351287c118a12271a8034&oe=579345A1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en_s2QnAgBE
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on March 14, 2016, 02:44:33 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/wi6aWBV.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on March 14, 2016, 02:49:23 PM
also...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7abkti7UphSopcl2/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on March 15, 2016, 01:44:24 AM
also...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7abkti7UphSopcl2/giphy.gif)

Holy crap!   :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: pcr3 on March 15, 2016, 09:39:54 AM
All right, which one of you was it?

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/i_am_fcking_white_acid_dropping_trump_fanboy_freaks_out

Quote
The, um… “dude”—who looks like he belongs at a Phish show and not a fascist rally—is seen freaking out, shouting “Fuck you” over and over and giving police(?) the finger.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on March 18, 2016, 11:29:13 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ztprVfw.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on March 28, 2016, 12:41:00 PM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12642640_1094525283973858_4096573307952498857_n.jpg?oh=71a37d7fffd8e75f454f6f2f22323ce6&oe=57852D6C)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on March 28, 2016, 03:30:15 PM
^ so true
Simultaneously we should fix the political system that lets just any racist billionaire with no background in politics get that close to becoming president
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: birdman on March 28, 2016, 04:38:15 PM
^ so true
Simultaneously we should fix the political system that lets just any racist billionaire with no background in politics get that close to becoming president
Thats what makes America beautiful. Anybody can run for the highest office in the land.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on March 28, 2016, 05:55:26 PM
^ so true
Simultaneously we should fix the political system that lets just any racist billionaire with no background in politics get that close to becoming president
Thats what makes America beautiful. Anybody can run for the highest office in the land.

I feel like that was a good starting point for American politics like 300 years ago, but now just attracting fascist billionaires.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on March 29, 2016, 09:16:50 AM
^ so true
Simultaneously we should fix the political system that lets just any racist billionaire with no background in politics get that close to becoming president
Thats what makes America beautiful. Anybody can run for the highest office in the land.

I feel like that was a good starting point for American politics like 300 years ago, but now just attracting fascist billionaires.

The vetting system is supposed to be the campaign wherein the educated masses reject phony baloney candidates like Trump.

Education along with an unbiased, non-commercial news media are the key to successful democracy. Ignorance is the path to tyranny.

I feel like everyone in this country should be made to watch the preachy bits from the first three episodes of Aaron Sorkin's "The Newsroom".
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on March 29, 2016, 11:18:52 AM
^^
yep
The media is clearly blowing it.
Several years ago - it was during one of the GWB campaigns, there was a media roundtable on one of the networks with all the major anchors and, oddly enough, Jon Stewart. They discussed the fact that a large portion of people under 30 "got the news" from the Daily Show, and basically Stewart blasted the mainstream media for not doing their jobs - covering the campaign like a sporting event rather than discussing the issues.
It is even more true today
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on March 29, 2016, 11:38:25 AM
If anyone hasn't watch the aforementioned series, here is the first scene:

https://youtu.be/BJWKccHQFOA

Find it on your HBO app.


eta:
Here's a tidy breakdown on the beginning of the Tea Party:
https://youtu.be/cGsLhyNJBh8
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on March 29, 2016, 11:42:11 AM
^^I've heard amazing things about that series.
Gonna cue it up this weekend.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on March 29, 2016, 01:14:03 PM

Loved The Newsroom... until I didn't any more.

The Bin Laden episode was great.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on March 29, 2016, 06:20:31 PM
Stupid question notwithstanding, hi Jenny.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on April 09, 2016, 12:48:30 AM
More political than random...

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Post by: GBL on April 09, 2016, 01:26:17 AM
^ that works perfectly in my opinion

Jesus
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Post by: pcr3 on April 09, 2016, 05:01:18 AM
Thread delivers. Feeling a new sort of Bern.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on April 11, 2016, 06:47:01 AM
(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/12936587_1665662177028367_62121187338504293_n.png?oh=6f9e9c2c51e35e1d193ebc570b5be3af&oe=57BDB6DF)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: susep on April 17, 2016, 09:18:23 PM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/t31.0-8/13041411_1786950488191824_7857937606692355024_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on April 27, 2016, 01:29:44 AM
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/13087507_1013698722001299_3033295754662887637_n.jpg?oh=540f1979bcb4dcc97b73082f06bd14b7&oe=57B6E54E)

This is making the rounds on Facebook.  So much fail.   :frustrated:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on April 29, 2016, 09:19:04 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/13076614_10153404095042234_1380749892869621683_n.jpg?oh=cb4e814a0bff5ca6c0622d2e0605b527&oe=57A52557)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on May 05, 2016, 02:29:08 AM
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13139118_10154167614056738_9081615449569309307_n.jpg?oh=8954debf43f5e4a368c04a61315e60e1&oe=57AD2E5D)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 10, 2016, 08:16:42 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/2z5jnIM.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on May 10, 2016, 12:50:31 PM
one more...

(http://i.imgur.com/oZbeuCg.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on May 12, 2016, 02:39:16 AM
If anyone hasn't watch the aforementioned series, here is the first scene:

https://youtu.be/BJWKccHQFOA

Find it on your HBO app.

"Will" strikes again with a topical parody of that scene. 

https://youtu.be/ik3JTaj21eo
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mattstick on May 12, 2016, 08:48:48 AM

I saw that yesterday, it's pretty stupid.

Are things so bad that we'll only listen to "fictional" analysis of Trump?  The cutaway shots of the "crew" made the thing a parody and took away from the legit points of whomever wrote that for Daniels.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: VDB on May 12, 2016, 01:52:14 PM
I was wondering why Daniels suddenly looked so old, and I'm thinking it's the haircut.

Also, wtf is a news organization doing peddling in scripted opiniontainment like this? The little ex journalism practitioner/teacher in me cringed at that.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on May 26, 2016, 11:24:50 AM
Have you seen the Man Enough to vote for a woman ads yet?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on May 26, 2016, 11:47:58 AM
Have you seen the Man Enough to vote for a woman ads yet?

(http://week4paug.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8519.0;attach=30232;image)

 :-D
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on May 30, 2016, 12:57:21 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13256373_10210395265297181_162449198131292916_n.jpg?oh=54906c3068fd5c161a53a87117a9a5d0&oe=57DF6D64)

Want!
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: birdman on May 30, 2016, 08:10:27 PM
 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on May 30, 2016, 08:37:37 PM
That is priceless.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on May 30, 2016, 08:41:29 PM
Love both of those.  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on May 31, 2016, 11:42:11 AM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13230280_10209787560025528_7342661870635111045_n.jpg?oh=d16a44fdd2a576b067f6362e26bc359e&oe=57D3A0EC)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on May 31, 2016, 01:44:43 PM
 :clap:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on May 31, 2016, 04:40:45 PM
:clap:

It's a missing link and also probably the cause of the last mass-extinction-event
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on June 01, 2016, 07:54:22 AM
Just try and unsee this:


Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on June 01, 2016, 09:48:29 AM
*unzips
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on June 01, 2016, 11:25:40 AM
*unzips

G. Zuz. Christ.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: kellerb on June 01, 2016, 11:55:41 AM
Reminds me of the walking/talking ass at the end of the Wall.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Hicks on June 01, 2016, 12:26:43 PM
Can we not?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on June 04, 2016, 10:58:04 AM
This guy...

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Post by: ytowndan on June 06, 2016, 03:45:46 AM
https://youtu.be/hxUAntt1z2c

Man, I fucking love this guy. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on June 06, 2016, 07:53:31 AM
^^^He's the best, no contest.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on June 06, 2016, 08:14:44 AM
"I am the new Queen of Daytime Talk!!"
- John Oliver
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on June 06, 2016, 12:15:47 PM
(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/fd64c98519076eca99eab8062/images/fbbdc918-da62-4aa9-928a-740a40dd5864.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on June 06, 2016, 03:52:50 PM
https://youtu.be/hxUAntt1z2c

Man, I fucking love this guy.

Occupy not happy with John Oliver

http://blog.debtcollective.org/whos-afraid-of-occupy-hbos-john-oliver-erases-debt-resistance/

Quote
Who’s Afraid of Occupy? The John Oliver Show Erases Debt Resistance
Eight months ago, Charles Wilson, a researcher from John Oliver's HBO show, Last Week Tonight, contacted us to ask about our project of buying and cancelling debt. We kicked off the Rolling Jubilee in 2012 with a widely publicized telethon (featuring comedians David Rees, Lizz Winstead, and Hari Kondabolu and members or TV On the Radio, Sonic Youth, Fugazi, among others). The project went viral and has been regularly covered in the press over the years, including the New York Times, the Guardian and NPR.

Until we stopped collecting donations last year, we used the $700 thousand we raised to erase over $30 million in predatory medical and tuition debt and more (stay tuned for more announcements), as well as helping to abolish over $800 million in a class action settlement. We canceled this debt (without any compensation) to get people to think critically about indebtedness: if creditors often value debts at a fraction of the amount they tell debtors they owe and if many of these debts were taken out to fund basic needs, are people really morally obligated repay them?

Wilson told us Last Week Tonight was interested in reproducing our feat. Because LWT has previously done a good job of highlighting the outrageousness and injustice of various issues, we were under the impression they were interested in highlighting the mechanisms of oppression used by the creditor class as well as our ongoing organizing work to challenge these unjust arrangements. We spent hours on the phone and email with them explaining how we did our work and connecting them to other experts and resources.

At the last minute Wilson told us LWT did not want to associate themselves with the work of the Rolling Jubilee due to its roots in Occupy Wall Street. Instead John Oliver framed the debt buy as his idea: a giveaway to compete with Oprah. The lead researcher who worked on this segment invoked the cover of journalism to justify distancing themselves from our project.

This line is ironic given that the show has expressly claimed not to be doing journalism. Indeed, LWT has often engaged in outright activism: encouraging his viewers to call their elected officials, raising money to pay for media campaigns, interviewing activists about their campaigns, etc. On this episode, John Oliver advocates for vague milquetoast “reform” of the industry while making sure to encourage everybody who “can” to repay their debts.

But apparently our activism--or our message--was beyond the pale. Apparently our position that NO ONE should have to go into debt to secure the basic necessities of life, and that any debt incurred to pay for health care or education is morally illegitimate is too radical for LWT.

Whether LWT obscured the work of the Rolling Jubilee because it disagrees with our politics or wants to avoid inconvenience of having to acknowledge influence, we are disappointed. While we are happy that attention is being focused on the destructive nature of the debt collection industry, we ultimately believe that the only solution is for debtors to join together to challenge the underlying economic system that puts people in debt in the first place. That is why we launched the Debt Collective, so that debtors can build power and fight back together.

Also, I knew Oliver's "idea" sounded familiar.

While I'm not sure how much far they'll get with the self-bailout ($500B in credit card debt, $1T in student loans), this is clearly one of OWS' better ideas (they've apparently been doing some great work with Sandy cleanup as well, unlike that disaster of a disaster agency, FEMA).

http://rollingjubilee.org/

Quote
A bailout of the people by the people

Rolling Jubilee is a Strike Debt project that buys debt for pennies on the dollar, but instead of collecting it, abolishes it. Together we can liberate debtors at random through a campaign of mutual support, good will, and collective refusal. Debt resistance is just the beginning.

Join us as we imagine and create a new world based on the common good, not Wall Street profits.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: runawayjimbo on June 10, 2016, 11:42:41 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkmWWAfWYAEFq5I.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: nab on June 11, 2016, 03:06:06 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkmWWAfWYAEFq5I.jpg)

#noseplugnovember 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mopper_smurf on June 24, 2016, 11:51:37 AM
(http://i.amz.mshcdn.com/qyLuW-BePwnEOM2ZdGa4DbgVbxg=/950x534/https%3A%2F%2Fblueprint-api-production.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fuploads%2Fcard%2Fimage%2F126213%2Ftrump.jpg)

The Donald is so fucking stupid.

http://mashable.com/2016/06/24/trump-tweet-brexit/#0xMCt.sg2sqZ
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: rowjimmy on June 24, 2016, 01:33:48 PM
Hilarious.
Scotland will take their country back.
Back to independence and membership in the EU.
(because the two can co-exist)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: antelope19 on July 02, 2016, 07:40:14 PM
 :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: fastfingers12 on July 02, 2016, 11:49:14 PM
 :beerbang:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on July 03, 2016, 10:25:37 AM
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13528990_10154105903365751_1325047192293066177_n.jpg?oh=7fc03ca879b297dc3677367a270be10d&oe=58330972)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on July 03, 2016, 10:44:01 AM
Who are those guys?
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Buffalo Budd on July 03, 2016, 11:04:02 AM
Who are those guys?


Dude on the left is Michael Gove (Tory leadership candidate in Britain who's been compared to Frank Underwood for his tactics), I forget the other guy's name.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: slslbs on July 06, 2016, 05:31:40 PM
.
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 10, 2016, 04:29:18 PM
IDKWBIBH...






Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: mbw on July 10, 2016, 09:28:07 PM
<3

(https://media.giphy.com/media/je10FApEk9a6I/200w.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 11, 2016, 08:49:48 AM
perfect.

(http://i.imgur.com/dZXmiPC.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: emay on July 11, 2016, 03:50:06 PM
Jeez ex mayor Giulianis take on the matter

http://huff.to/29FLVVw
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: ytowndan on July 11, 2016, 06:23:29 PM
Jeez ex mayor Giulianis take on the matter

http://huff.to/29FLVVw

Ahh yes.  The old "black-on-black violence" red herring. 
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 12, 2016, 07:08:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/lbspnGj.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 15, 2016, 09:51:03 AM
funny not funny...

(http://i.imgur.com/mWaSwoK.jpg)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: gah on July 15, 2016, 10:48:08 AM
^^^ That's the truth. It's like the more we as a society try to push forward, the more a smaller population of individuals try to move us backwards. I'd say as a country, we're definitely behind others in terms of social progress. As a matter of fact, on npr the other day I heard a story where they mentioned that idea...

here it is:

http://www.marketplace.org/2016/06/29/world/us-slips-2016-social-progress-index

And then you have what just happened in France last night.... what's going on world? you're better than that!  :shakehead:
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: PIE-GUY on July 15, 2016, 04:10:48 PM
And, there you have it.

(http://i.imgur.com/OHg5nOJ.gif)
Title: Re: Political Vids/Images
Post by: Superfreakie on July 15, 2016, 05:08:27 PM