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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2940 on: October 25, 2018, 10:17:25 PM »
sorry maybe this is a thread hijack. i just dont want to make a  thread, but goddam i cant beleive these attempted bombings the other day.
i mean, this shit is pretty real. just cause the President goes and blames it on the media the next day doesnt make it not real.
Can you imagine if even some of those devices killed the intended targets?

i dunno. sometimes i cant believe what the fuck is going on to this country and the downwrad spiral that it seems people are just to warped up in their 24 hr media cycle to even take to heart.
this atmosphere is so fucking toxic right now... seeing these midterm adds tht just say VOTE REPUBLICAN from "mystery" backers to avoid campaign finance, and then show the Dems as angry MObs. All perpetuated by that Orange clown going on tour instead of running the country.
-Shit straight up smacks of Facism in its infancy. i swear to fucking god.
Shits gonna pop off for real one of these days soon the way we're headed.

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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2941 on: November 02, 2018, 11:13:31 AM »
omg

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/01/opinions/mike-pence-and-the-rabbi-dantonio-eisner/index.html
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Mike Pence and the 'rabbi'
At the rally, the vice president announced that he was "privileged to be joined today by a leader in the Jewish Community here in Michigan." The "rabbi," Loren Jacobs, donned a Jewish prayer shawl and invoked Jesus, with a reference to his Hebrew name -- Yeshua. As if this signal wasn't enough, he noted that Yeshua is "Jesus the messiah," but failed to mention the 11 victims of the massacre by name.
With little effort, anyone can go to the Internet and discover that Jacobs is not a rabbi but an evangelical Christian whose main religious education was obtained at the Moody Bible Institute, a Christian school that trains people to spread the faith around the world.
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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2942 on: November 02, 2018, 11:33:45 AM »
omg

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/01/opinions/mike-pence-and-the-rabbi-dantonio-eisner/index.html
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Mike Pence and the 'rabbi'
At the rally, the vice president announced that he was "privileged to be joined today by a leader in the Jewish Community here in Michigan." The "rabbi," Loren Jacobs, donned a Jewish prayer shawl and invoked Jesus, with a reference to his Hebrew name -- Yeshua. As if this signal wasn't enough, he noted that Yeshua is "Jesus the messiah," but failed to mention the 11 victims of the massacre by name.
With little effort, anyone can go to the Internet and discover that Jacobs is not a rabbi but an evangelical Christian whose main religious education was obtained at the Moody Bible Institute, a Christian school that trains people to spread the faith around the world.

What. The. Fuck.  :shakehead:

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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2943 on: November 02, 2018, 12:39:51 PM »
omg

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/01/opinions/mike-pence-and-the-rabbi-dantonio-eisner/index.html
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Mike Pence and the 'rabbi'
At the rally, the vice president announced that he was "privileged to be joined today by a leader in the Jewish Community here in Michigan." The "rabbi," Loren Jacobs, donned a Jewish prayer shawl and invoked Jesus, with a reference to his Hebrew name -- Yeshua. As if this signal wasn't enough, he noted that Yeshua is "Jesus the messiah," but failed to mention the 11 victims of the massacre by name.
With little effort, anyone can go to the Internet and discover that Jacobs is not a rabbi but an evangelical Christian whose main religious education was obtained at the Moody Bible Institute, a Christian school that trains people to spread the faith around the world.

What. The. Fuck.  :shakehead:

These people can't go any lower. They're all going straight to hell.


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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2944 on: November 06, 2018, 11:14:24 PM »
Very interesting observing this election in an unfamiliar state. Totally different experience than what I’m used to down here in Florida.  Also hard to believe the Republicans held the Senate.
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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2945 on: November 07, 2018, 12:06:51 AM »
Very interesting observing this election in an unfamiliar state. Totally different experience than what I’m used to down here in Florida.  Also hard to believe the Republicans held the Senate.

Taking it to the House!

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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2946 on: November 07, 2018, 02:33:07 AM »
Very interesting observing this election in an unfamiliar state. Totally different experience than what I’m used to down here in Florida.  Also hard to believe the Republicans held the Senate.

Taking it to the House!

Baby steps.

Yep.  I'll take it!   :beers:
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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2947 on: November 07, 2018, 04:19:13 PM »
Donald Trump is so awful he's able to make even Jeff Sessions look like a poor victim.
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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2948 on: November 07, 2018, 04:59:55 PM »
Donald Trump is so awful he's able to make even Jeff Sessions look like a poor victim.

More states legalize recreational, Dems take House/GOP keeps Senate, AND Sessions "resigns"?!?! Fucking Christmas at my house right now.

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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2949 on: November 07, 2018, 06:46:38 PM »
there is no explanation
it's all inside your head


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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2950 on: November 07, 2018, 06:49:34 PM »
Donald Trump is so awful he's able to make even Jeff Sessions look like a poor victim.

More states legalize recreational, Dems take House/GOP keeps Senate, AND Sessions "resigns"?!?! Fucking Christmas at my house right now.

Don't forget dead pimp republican Dennis Hof won his election too!

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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2951 on: November 07, 2018, 07:29:10 PM »
Donald Trump is so awful he's able to make even Jeff Sessions look like a poor victim.

More states legalize recreational, Dems take House/GOP keeps Senate, AND Sessions "resigns"?!?! Fucking Christmas at my house right now.

Don't forget dead pimp republican Dennis Hof won his election too!

How in the hell did I miss this?!?!
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that's great. people are stupid.
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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2952 on: December 06, 2018, 09:11:14 AM »
Trump and his buddies have been complaining, without evidence, that there has been rampant voter fraud, favoring the Democrats.
There has been no evidence of significant fraud - until now.
Of course, they got one detail wrong

Allegations of GOP Election Fraud Leave North Carolina Race in Limbo
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The call came at 9:38 p.m. on Election Day. The Associated Press projected Republican Mark Harris had won his race in North Carolina’s heavily gerrymandered Ninth District, a slice of the state that offered Republicans a roughly eight-point advantage. The district last had a Democratic Congressman in 1963 and most models predicted that would continue past the vote tallies on Nov. 6. It seemed straightforward.

That was 29 days ago.

In the period since, all hell has broken loose in the district. The state board of elections has twice refused to certify the results, which give pastor Harris a narrow 905-vote win over Democratic businessman Dan McCready. Voters have come forward with sworn statements that someone knocked on their door, handed them ballots, filled parts of them out and, presumably, turned them back into election officials. There’s been plenty of finger pointing and suspicion of stuffing the ballot box or votes getting lost or destroyed on their way to election offices. Professors who have reviewed the vote tallies suggest something funky happened. The feds are looking into the situation, which as it has been described appears plainly criminal. And the AP withdrew its race call.

The question now is a very basic one: Now what? Will the residents of Charlotte’s suburbs have a Representative when Congress comes back in January?

Clearly, something hinky happened. If the five sworn affidavits and the sixth unsworn one are accurate, a woman showed up at these voters’ doors, said she was collecting absentee ballots, offering to return ballots — in at least one case, a ballot that showed up unrequested — to the local elections office. Other allegations include whisper campaigns of Harris’ team perhaps paying for votes, some ballots having unusual “coding” on them and what may appear to some as election intimidation at polling locations.

In short, it appears that the specter of election fraud — long screamed from the rooftop by Republicans, seldom with any proof to back it up — materialized in this one North Carolina district. And — again, if these six affidavits are correct — the Republican nominee was the one who stood to gain from it.

Local elections officials had signs something was up. In Bladen County, more than 7 percent of registered voters asked for an absentee ballot. (The rest of the state was seeing numbers closer to 3 percent of registered voters.) Of those sent out, 40 percent never came back. In neighboring Robeson County, 62 percent of the ballots didn’t come back. (The next highest county of no-show absentee ballots logged a 27 percent ghosting rate.)




In August, the chairman of the Robeson County elections board noticed an uptick in voter registration forms and requests for absentee ballots. He flagged the efforts to the state elections panel.

He wasn’t the only one to notice. At Catawba College, near Charlotte, professor Michael Bitzer was crunching the numbers and saw reason to take a second look. In both Robeson and Bladen counties, Harris was crushing the absentee votes, picking up 61% of the mail-in vote in places that were only 19% GOP. “If ballots were manipulated without the registered voter’s knowledge, and votes were changed or spoiled to negate a vote, that would raise serious concerns about the integrity of the 9th Congressional District’s election,” Bitzer wrote in a post-election blog post that has become a must-read primer on the case. What’s more, there appear to be a deep cache of absentee ballots that were requested but never returned in Robeson and Bladen counties, perhaps suggesting there was an attempt to suppress votes.




State elections officials, meanwhile, aren’t sure what to do. The matter has been turned over to the U.S. Attorney’s Office to investigate. (In North Carolina, it is against the law for anyone except the voter to handle his ballot even if the vote is not tampered with.) The most generous reading of the situation is that a consultant hired by a vendor hired by the Harris campaign got too enthusiastic about a get-out-the-vote operation and crossed the line. The most nefarious reading is an elaborate effort to target rural minorities and deep-six their ballots.

Republicans, who already suffered a swamping in the midterm elections and lost their majority in the House, are as worried as Democrats. Last week, all four Republicans on the state’s Board of Elections twice sided with their four Democratic and one independent colleagues in choosing not to certify the results of the Nov. 6 race. But the board itself has its own issues: a judge is allowing the nine-person group to continue its work only until Dec. 12, when a stay will expire and an earlier ruling that it the members were empaneled unconstitutionally by the state legislature will take effect.




On Wednesday, the editorial board of the state’s largest newspaper called for both a new primary and a new general election. “Voters in the 9th District deserve the confidence that their election was free from fraud. North Carolina statute supports it. The evidence already demands it. The Board of Elections should start the election over,” the editorial in the Charlotte Observer read.

Democrats have tepidly been urging North Carolina officials to simply throw out the suspect elections and have a do-over, too. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has lawyers on the ground. Seth Moulton, a Massachusetts Republican who is seen as a rising star in Democratic politics, on Tuesday joined that chorus: McCready “put his life on the line for our democracy and we owe it to him to hold a fair and honest race.”




Republicans are resisting those calls, saying their candidate had the most votes.

The outcome has little obvious impact on the agenda for Congress next year. Democrats have a comfortable majority in the House, having engineered a blue wave that was the largest since Watergate. But symbolically, the outcome carries great weight. If Democrats can win in a district so heavily designed to tilt to Republicans, in a state that carries 15 electoral votes — rivaling fellow swing states Ohio and Virginia — it would be a warning sign to President Donald Trump as he looks ahead to 2020.

Then there’s the shade Democrats can throw. Finally, there appears to be evidence of election fraud. And that effort appears to have benefited a Republicans, who have for years been making their own allegations that ballots are being lost, cast illegally or counted twice. That alone is why many Democrats are watching this otherwise footnote-able district carefully. This could be a Democratic victory served with a side of irony and hypocrisy.
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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2953 on: December 07, 2018, 09:20:52 PM »
Undocumented workers at Trump properties??
I'm shocked.  Jimbo, you shocked??

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/us/trump-bedminster-golf-undocumented-workers.html

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Re: Have you heard about...? (Politics edition)
« Reply #2954 on: December 08, 2018, 09:17:11 AM »
"Individual 1" is fucked.
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