Where's the stage? Spurious Generalities > Politiw00kchat
Fox News: At it again
Bobafett:
it actually would be not, nor.
V00D00BR3W:
--- Quote from: runawayjimbo on April 20, 2012, 12:14:28 AM ---"Lean Forward", implying any position other than progressive is backwards?
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I'd not thought of it that way, I always interpreted it as "Which way do we lean? We lean forward = making progress = progressive = we're liberal, get it?" That and their "One Nation, In Progress" slogan along with the general content of the network seem to be pretty straightforward defenses of liberalism. I think that contrasts pretty starkly with what's happening at FN, where there's no honest embrace of their conservatism but instead an effort to portray themselves as being wholly pure, fair and unbiased. So remember, I'm not accusing FN of being the only media outlet to show an ideological bent, just saying the way they do it is really disingenuous and insidious.
--- Quote from: Superfreakie on April 20, 2012, 12:19:17 AM ---Meanwhile, CNN, in an attempt to appease both poles and not seem partisan, refuses to question either side's rhetoric. :tte:
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Absolutely right.
runawayjimbo:
--- Quote from: V00D00BR3W on April 20, 2012, 09:30:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: runawayjimbo on April 20, 2012, 12:14:28 AM ---"Lean Forward", implying any position other than progressive is backwards?
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I'd not thought of it that way, I always interpreted it as "Which way do we lean? We lean forward = making progress = progressive = we're liberal, get it?" That and their "One Nation, In Progress" slogan along with the general content of the network seem to be pretty straightforward defenses of liberalism. I think that contrasts pretty starkly with what's happening at FN, where there's no honest embrace of their conservatism but instead an effort to portray themselves as being wholly pure, fair and unbiased. So remember, I'm not accusing FN of being the only media outlet to show an ideological bent, just saying the way they do it is really disingenuous and insidious.
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I hear you, but that's how you interpreted it. I'm not saying you're wrong and, to be clear, I am in no way defending FN (hear that, sunrise! :wink:). I'm just trying to point out that to someone looking at it from a different perspective, it can be just as insidious. And honestly, I think the whole "fair and balanced" nonsense should be taken as more of a wink-and-a-nudge than an attempt to honestly portray themselves as the defenders of all things conservative.
I kinda look at cable news as the WWF right before they changed to the WWE: everyone recognizes it's all bullshit, so let's just embrace it as entertainment rather than trying to pretend it's something it's not.
sophist:
::obligatory Bill Hicks quote::
mbw:
--- Quote from: runawayjimbo on April 20, 2012, 09:45:35 AM ---I kinda look at cable news as the WWF right before they changed to the WWE: everyone recognizes it's all bullshit, so let's just embrace it as entertainment rather than trying to pretend it's something it's not.
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i think you are really far off here. i think the majority of fox news viewers take it all very literally and seriously.
i know plenty of them, and i have never heard one of them say they know its bullshit and just want to be entertained.
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