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Re: Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?
« Reply #705 on: November 02, 2017, 05:14:37 PM »
I will say a terrible thing:

Normally a Walmart shooting involves a toddler grabbing his mother's gun from her purse and shooting her or his sibling.

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Re: Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?
« Reply #706 on: February 15, 2018, 11:11:36 AM »
Just another day in America.
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Re: Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?
« Reply #707 on: February 15, 2018, 11:49:58 AM »
Just another day in America.

I know this may provoke Jimbo to chime in but I have about 15 - 20 friends who are teachers. Many of whom are really close friends so I've heard the really crazy stories. A good buddy I go to shows with frequently is a resource teacher for one kid. The 14 yr old is constantly attacking him with chairs, screwdrivers, any object he can get his hands on. We have an all inclusion policy in the province I live in so the kid keeps getting brought back into school. His mom is just as batshit crazy as him so she keeps bringing him back and blaming it on the school/system or wtv. He is just one of thousands of troubled students across Canada that given the opportunity, could do something as horrific as what happened in Florida yesterday. The one massive difference that I can tell, which is my point, is that they can't access a firearm, let alone an AK-47. Every person who owns a firearm in this country has to have it under lock and key constantly.
There is no excuse for this shit imho.


ETA. Gun was an AR-15

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Re: Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?
« Reply #708 on: February 15, 2018, 04:05:08 PM »
it should be pretty telling that I had conversations with my friends in South Africa, Kenya, Tanzania, and Zimbabwe this morning and EACH ONE is in shock that this shit is still happening in America. even in Africa, they don't have to deal with this... 
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Re: Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?
« Reply #709 on: February 16, 2018, 03:02:37 PM »
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Re: Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?
« Reply #710 on: February 16, 2018, 06:43:25 PM »
I just found out that one of my high school classmates is the mother of one of the kids killed in Florida yesterday.

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Re: Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?
« Reply #711 on: February 16, 2018, 08:52:25 PM »
I just found out that one of my high school classmates is the mother of one of the kids killed in Florida yesterday.

Oh man....I am so sorry.

This is all so insane to me, I don’t know where to begin. How many more times?

Do I write my congressman?
Do I tweet our President?

I am terrified for my kids to get To the age where they have to go to school.

How many more times? What’s it going to take to make a change?
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Re: Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?
« Reply #712 on: February 16, 2018, 09:59:50 PM »

Do I write my congressman?

Yes

Do I tweet our President?

Clearly useless.

Eta:  also, vote out all the politicians beholden to the NRA, and not to the safety of your kids.
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Re: Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?
« Reply #713 on: February 17, 2018, 12:24:45 AM »
Think about it
It’s easier for someone mentally ill to buy a gun then to get health care
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Re: Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?
« Reply #714 on: February 17, 2018, 09:07:27 AM »
Think about it
It’s easier for someone mentally ill to buy a gun then to get health care

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Re: Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?
« Reply #715 on: February 17, 2018, 10:49:26 AM »
Think about it
It’s easier for someone mentally ill to buy a gun then to get health care

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Re: Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?
« Reply #716 on: February 17, 2018, 02:08:02 PM »
The situation is so fucked that it’s time for more stringent requirements for gun ownership.  Why do our kids all hold a love for guns and freedoms?  I grew up loving the Wild West mentality, but perhaps that has indoctrinated our culture?

The NRA is a fucked politically motivated association that puts out more fake news than any other entity that I’ve seen.  I’m a gun owner and a gun advocate.  My gfs dad is a card holding member who feeds me American rifleman magazines and sporting news and so forth, but they are all full of some nut job nra propaganda that touts such a far right agenda that I can’t even look at them and learn anything of value.  Such mindless dribble that makes STS9 or disco biscuits lyrics sound like peaceful elevator music.

We need to change this but it will be an uphill battle that will require both sides to be open to the möbius model of dialogue which will never happen.
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Re: Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?
« Reply #717 on: February 19, 2018, 10:22:06 AM »

Do I write my congressman?

Yes

Eta:  also, vote out all the politicians beholden to the NRA, and not to the safety of your kids.

these things.

The fact that schools nowadays have lock down drills for active shooter scenarios is.....insane.  :shakehead:
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« Reply #718 on: February 19, 2018, 12:12:18 PM »

Do I write my congressman?

Yes

Eta:  also, vote out all the politicians beholden to the NRA, and not to the safety of your kids.
these things.

The fact that schools nowadays have lock down drills for active shooter scenarios is.....insane.  :shakehead:
Youshould see the ALICE drills that my wife, a kindergarten teacher, and her colleagues have to endure. They instruct them how to barricade against and defend against active shooters. It involves police officers forcibly entering their classrooms and “killing” them with a yardstick. Horrifying for anyone. Now imagine them instructing her how to teach 5 year olds to go on the offensive in last ditch efforts. This whole situation is unimaginable, but here we are.
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Re: Gun Talk Re: have you heard about...?
« Reply #719 on: February 19, 2018, 12:31:26 PM »
If I'm in Kindergarten and an active shooter situation occurs during a cold-war nuclear attack via best-korea provoked by trump tweet, which branch of my school-mass-murder decision-tree do I use? Do I continue to hide under my desk to minimize radiation?  Do I hide underneath the corpses of my classmates and pretend to be dead?  Will my classmates' corpses provide adequate shielding from nuclear blast radiation?  Will the bomb potentially kill the shooter?  Maybe pop his many bullets/magazines? If I survive should I feel guilty because I wore Tommy's bullet-shattered skull as extra radiation protection, even though we were going to go to his house for a sleepover?

Asking for my two-year-old.