Author Topic: Phish | Feb 21, 1997 | Florence, Italy | Schoeps CMC6/MK4 | new transfer  (Read 582 times)

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Offline jasonsobel

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http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=564975
http://db.etree.org/shn/124863

this is the same source as shnid 23043.  but these are 48 kHz that are identical to the original DAT recording.  bitchin'

thanks to Terry for sending me the raw 48 kHz files :)



Phish
February 21, 1997
Tenax
Florence, Italy

source:
Schoeps cmc6/mk4 > Oade M248 (w/ HPF) > Sony SBM-1 > Tascam DA-P1 (@ 48 kHz)

transfer:
Sony PCM-R500 > Tascam HD-P2 > .WAV > CD Wave v1.98 (track splits) > Samplitute SE v9.1.1 (fades) > FLAC v1.3.0 (Level 8)

recorded by Don Wright
DAT clone provided by Craig Hillwig
transferred by Terry Watts
tracked/FLAC'ed by Jason Sobel

seeded June 27, 2013

FLAC tags added with metaflac v1.3.0
These are 16 bit / 48 kHz files and are identical to the original DAT recording.

Set I - [74:01]
01 - [05:03] - My Soul
02 - [09:50] - Foam
03 - [16:05] - Down with Disease >
04 - [10:48] - The Lizards
05 - [13:27] - Crosseyed and Painless
06 - [18:47] - You Enjoy Myself

Set II - [79:15]
01 - [10:37] - Ya Mar
02 - [11:23] - Run Like an Antelope ->
03 - [04:33] - Wilson ->
04 - [01:59] - The Oh Kee Pa Ceremony >
05 - [07:56] - AC/DC Bag >
06 - [06:50] - Billy Breathes
07 - [13:21] - Reba >
08 - [05:25] - Waste >
09 - [08:20] - Prince Caspian
10 - [02:07] - encore break
11 - [06:45] - Character Zero

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shntool 3.0.4 len mode output:

    length     expanded size    cdr  WAVE problems  fmt   ratio  filename
     5:03.347         55.54 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.6139  ph1997-02-21set1t01.flac
     9:49.907        108.02 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.5454  ph1997-02-21set1t02.flac
    16:05.013        176.70 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.6044  ph1997-02-21set1t03.flac
    10:48.467        118.74 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.5792  ph1997-02-21set1t04.flac
    13:26.840        147.74 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.6030  ph1997-02-21set1t05.flac
    18:47.427        206.44 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.6005  ph1997-02-21set1t06.flac
    10:36.707        116.58 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.5675  ph1997-02-21set2t01.flac
    11:22.893        125.04 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.6180  ph1997-02-21set2t02.flac
     4:32.547         49.90 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.6373  ph1997-02-21set2t03.flac
     1:58.520         21.70 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.5426  ph1997-02-21set2t04.flac
     7:56.107         87.18 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.5907  ph1997-02-21set2t05.flac
     6:49.907         75.06 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.5817  ph1997-02-21set2t06.flac
    13:21.240        146.71 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.5818  ph1997-02-21set2t07.flac
     5:25.333         59.57 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.5643  ph1997-02-21set2t08.flac
     8:20.480         91.64 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.6156  ph1997-02-21set2t09.flac
     2:06.667         23.19 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.5807  ph1997-02-21set2t10.flac
     6:44.600         74.08 MB  cxx   --   ---xx   flac  0.6529  ph1997-02-21set2t11.flac
   153:16.000       1683.84 MB                           0.5945  (17 files)

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Thanks Jason and Terry.
There is a current thread on TS about the difference between 48k and 44.1 and whether it is worth recording at 48k.  comparing the old transfer and this new one and listening for a difference will be interesting.
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Thanks Jason and Terry.
There is a current thread on TS about the difference between 48k and 44.1 and whether it is worth recording at 48k.  comparing the old transfer and this new one and listening for a difference will be interesting.

well, recording at 48 kHz vs 44.1 kHz is a different debate than seeding something at 48 kHz vs resampling to 44.1 kHz first.

In reality, there is little difference to recording at 48 kHz vs 44.1 kHz.  I actually have no interest in doing any listening tests on that one, because so many other factors influence the sound of the recording so much more than the sample rate that is chosen.

however, in regards to seeding a recording that was made at 48 kHz at 48 kHz vs resampling first, that is more about the theory of processing the recording as little as possible, and so everyone gets a couple that is absolutely identical to the original recording.  The only real reason to resample from 48 kHz to 44.1 kHz is that someone could burn it to CD.  but hardly anyone burns CD's anymore, so that's not a very compelling reason anymore.  In practice, the resampling algorithms that are used are very high quality (SoX, r8brain, Izotope, etc, etc), and don't actually think anyone could realistically tell the difference between the original 48 kHz file and the resampled 44.1 kHz file.  but I do like the idea of everyone getting a copy of the recording that is identical to the original recording...
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different but the same concept in avoiding the one step in processing.

anyway thanks for the new source.
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