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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #60 on: February 02, 2018, 02:49:16 PM »
I don't think anybody is saying film criticism is pointless, but if you offer a critique, be prepared for your criticisms to be critiqued as well.
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But, I don't think our fans do happily lap it up, I think they go online and talk about how it was a bad show.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #61 on: February 02, 2018, 02:59:24 PM »
Of course. The internet is perfectly designed for us to go round and round on that sort of thing with glee.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #62 on: February 03, 2018, 04:07:31 PM »
For those of you who don't Twitter, I'm going to share with you a smart thread of reasonable relevance.
Here's the link to the first tweet: https://twitter.com/patrickhwillems/status/959204374047350789

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Watching The Empire Strikes Back and wow all this comedy with C-3PO while Luke is almost dying is so out of place. Irvin Kershner ruined Star Wars.

Ugh and now Han and Leia are basically in a romantic comedy. Get this corny ďhumorĒ out of Star Wars.

Luke has telekinesis now?? Way to break the whole mythology.

So that giant asteroid worm can breathe in space? It shouldíve died in seconds. Good to know this movie doesnít care about physics AT ALL.

Jesus Iím waiting for Luke to find the badass Jedi master and thereís just these endless scenes of a dumb muppet stealing his food. Did he land on fucking Sesame Street?

Wait, Darth Vader, ultimate badass villain, is just a lackey to some crusty old dude? Does this old dude even have a name?? Where did he come from?

How are these TIE Fighters dropping bombs when THEREíS NO GRAVITY IN SPACE?? ?? ??

My boy Han Solo FINALLY gets some action and then itís ruined with more 3PO comedy like itís suddenly a god damn Inspector Clouseau movie

Luke is on some kind of vision quest in a haunted cave? How many times can one movie break its own mythology?

Oh sure youíre telling me a Star Destroyer has no cameras or anything to detect a whole spaceship just sitting on its surface? No oneís gonna look out a damn window and see it?

Whatís with the dumb subplot where Vader keeps murdering his admirals? The Imperial army is suddenly a wacky comedy routine and they expect us to take them seriously?

Isnít this series supposed to be about a war? This whole movie is about hanging out in a swamp or going on a road trip. Whatís the whole Rebel army doing? Shouldnít they be trying to, like, win?

Vader can just deflect blaster shots with his hand?? Why does he even need a lightsaber? Are they just making up new powers as they go?

And now Luke can just HEAR his friends from across the galaxy? So the Force is basically a psychic radio?

Yoda: ďDonít go, itís a trap.Ē
Luke: ďIím gonna go.Ē
Leia: ďLuke stop itís a trap!Ē
Luke: *keeps going*

How do they expect us to root for a protagonist this stupid? All suspension of disbelief: gone

Two days of training and Luke is suddenly a better fighter than Ben Kenobi #lackofconsistency

Wow so that movie went nowhere, they got rid of the best character, and the mythology makes no sense now.

Fuck Irvin Kershner and Lawrence Kasdan.

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You can play this game with anything you want, the "let's take any story and describe it all stupid-like so we can pretend any criticism levelled against something I like doesn't count."

The reason no one has ever said any of that about Empire is because it's never actually occurred to anyone.

The reason people have a boatload of criticisms about Disney's latest worldwide product/film release is because it is riddled with problems.

If you don't agree with the criticims, respond to them. This crap here is not only whataboutism, it's make-believe whataboutism. "But what about the fact that this other movie you like isn't perfect," is utterly feeble and nonsensical a response as it is, but changing it to, "But what about how I can make up pretend criticism about a movie everyone loves" is just sad.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #63 on: February 04, 2018, 02:25:58 PM »
A little angry about a joke.

"utterly feeble and nonsensical"?

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #64 on: February 05, 2018, 04:16:11 AM »
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It wasnít coming into it and thinking, ĎOkay, theyíre expecting this. Letís have him toss the lightsaber. Ha, ha, ha.í The reason he did that was because I canít imagine any other honest reaction from him to that moment.

...So, that leads you down a really specific path in terms of where his head is at. And if heís done that and if heís made this huge Herculean effort to pull himself out of the fight, to hide in, like he says, ĎThe most unfindable place in the galaxy,í it took an entire movie for the most heroic, smartest people in the galaxy to even find him, heís put himself away.

Then some kid shows up that he doesnít know and shoves this thing that is everything that he has made this huge effort to step away from into his face with this look in her eyes of expectation like, ĎHere you go,í and what is he going to do? Take it and say, ĎGreat. Letís go save the galaxy.í Heís made this choice. Heís there for a reason. I knew it was going to be shocking, but I did it because it felt like, obviously itís a dramatic expression of it, but itís an expression of honestly the way that he is going to react to that moment.

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But, I don't think our fans do happily lap it up, I think they go online and talk about how it was a bad show.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #65 on: June 17, 2018, 01:57:38 PM »
I finally watched this movie again.

As parody I love it.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #66 on: June 19, 2018, 06:13:10 PM »
I finally watched this movie again.

As parody I love it.

It always felt to me like the hateful wives of some huge Star Wars nerds got together and said "we could write a stupid Star Wars movie", then somehow got the contract

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #67 on: June 19, 2018, 07:16:39 PM »
Your dislike of this film is amusing.
Too bad for you guys.

I still love it.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2018, 10:45:37 AM »
If anybody like David Chang of momofuko and the spicy chicken sandwich, he has a new podcast that has an interview with rian the director thatís pretty good.   Of course I like the food podcast side of it, but still..
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #69 on: July 15, 2018, 02:45:25 PM »
First- I loved the movie and think itís a fantastic step for the franchise.

That said, this movie is far from perfect.

My issues with the movie-

Leia into space and then coming back
Yoda all of a sudden being like nah, fuck it, Luke. Sheís good. Those Jedi texts are Boring as fuck anyway.
Luke, in general. Winking at C3PO, dusting his shoulder off, etc.
Complete and total dismissal of Ackbar. ďOh by the way, that guy diedĒ.
Plot line of letís just wait until they run out of gas is pretty weak, IMO
Snoke....zero character development and killed way too easily. He clearly has a lot of respect for the history of the dark side(or maybe just Vader?) and is pretty powerful. Cool side note: his ring is made From obsidian cut from below Vaderís temple.

Just watched the movie for the third time, first outside of the theaters. Itís amazing how much the movie has grown on me. The initial shock of some of things mentioned above has waned and I still feel this movie is great. Iím even more excited for the next movie.

Still need to see Solo.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #70 on: July 16, 2018, 08:41:31 AM »
Watched this again the other day. Still good.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #71 on: July 16, 2018, 11:43:10 AM »
Watched this again the other day. Still good.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #72 on: July 27, 2018, 01:19:52 AM »
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #73 on: July 27, 2018, 06:41:28 AM »
Watched this again the other day. Still good.

Now that it's on Netflix and I have the house to myself on Saturday, I plan on finally giving it a second viewing. I haven't yet decided if I'll fast-forward through the whole 'Finn on the gambling planet' scene, but it is a thought I have. I just felt like that scene did nothing for the movie.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion
« Reply #74 on: July 27, 2018, 08:39:01 AM »
Watched this again the other day. Still good.

Now that it's on Netflix and I have the house to myself on Saturday, I plan on finally giving it a second viewing. I haven't yet decided if I'll fast-forward through the whole 'Finn on the gambling planet' scene, but it is a thought I have. I just felt like that scene did nothing for the movie.

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The message of that sequence is one of the primary themes of the film.