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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #60 on: September 01, 2014, 08:42:59 PM »

I got the De-specialized version of Empire over the weekend, next time I'm home sick or something I'm going to watch.

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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #61 on: September 02, 2014, 07:57:08 PM »
Empire is the least offensive of the special editions, of course. (Except for some of the more over-exuberant Cloud City CGI.) This is probably, and not coincidentally, because it was the best of the three in the first place.
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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #62 on: September 02, 2014, 10:32:59 PM »
Empire is the least offensive of the special editions, of course. (Except for some of the more over-exuberant Cloud City CGI.) This is probably, and not coincidentally, because it was the best of the three in the first place.

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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #63 on: September 02, 2014, 11:02:12 PM »
Empire is the least offensive of the special editions, of course. (Except for some of the more over-exuberant Cloud City CGI.) This is probably, and not coincidentally, because it was the best of the three in the first place.

Truth.   I even like the Cloud City stuff.
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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #64 on: September 03, 2014, 07:45:10 AM »
Empire is the least offensive of the special editions, of course. (Except for some of the more over-exuberant Cloud City CGI.) This is probably, and not coincidentally, because it was the best of the three in the first place.

Truth.   I even like the Cloud City stuff.
Entirely more tolerable than any of the cgi in hew hope.

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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #65 on: September 03, 2014, 08:10:39 AM »
Empire is the least offensive of the special editions, of course. (Except for some of the more over-exuberant Cloud City CGI.) This is probably, and not coincidentally, because it was the best of the three in the first place.

Truth.   I even like the Cloud City stuff.
Entirely more tolerable than any of the cgi in hew hope.

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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #66 on: September 03, 2014, 09:26:15 PM »
Part of the problem (maybe the main problem) with the CGI in the special editions is that it doesn't match the look of the films. There's a very analog look to them, because they were made in an analog age: actual props, optical compositing, matte paintings, puppets... So just sticking a CGI sequence in there, even if it looks fine on its own, is discontinuous. I don't mind so much some of the cleanup (e.g. removing the smear under Luke's landspeeder, fixing opacity and outline issues with compositing) that otherwise preserves the original visual intent.
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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #67 on: September 03, 2014, 09:59:41 PM »
Part of the problem (maybe the main problem) with the CGI in the special editions is that it doesn't match the look of the films. There's a very analog look to them, because they were made in an analog age: actual props, optical compositing, matte paintings, puppets... So just sticking a CGI sequence in there, even if it looks fine on its own, is discontinuous. I don't mind so much some of the cleanup (e.g. removing the smear under Luke's landspeeder, fixing opacity and outline issues with compositing) that otherwise preserves the original visual intent.

I agree with this.  And I think the despecialized versions above *do* keep at least some of the cleanup parts you mentioned.

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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #68 on: September 04, 2014, 08:00:52 PM »
Is that so? I thought the intention was to present the movies as theater audiences saw them back when.
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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #69 on: September 04, 2014, 08:20:09 PM »
Is that so? I thought the intention was to present the movies as theater audiences saw them back when.
I think the intention is to give you the most clean version of the movie as theater audiences saw them back in the day. Minus all of george lucas's 'better making' and 'if i had had the money's.
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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #70 on: September 04, 2014, 10:10:28 PM »
Is that so? I thought the intention was to present the movies as theater audiences saw them back when.

There's a long discussion somewhere (non-paug) about what exactly he did - check that out for details from the horse's mouth. 

I think the jist of it is that he cleaned up (or left cleaned up) some blurring and evidence of effects from the original (matte lines, etc.)


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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #71 on: March 12, 2015, 01:23:00 PM »
New info for the Stand-Alone movie as well as Ep VIII

http://www.starwars.com/news/rogue-one-is-the-first-star-wars-stand-alone-film-rian-johnson-to-write-and-direct-star-wars-episode-viii?linkId=12857863


This morning at the Palace of Fine Arts in San Francisco, across the street from Lucasfilm, Disney chairman and CEO Bob Iger hosted a shareholder meeting where he announced news regarding the first Star Wars stand-alone movie as well as Star Wars: Episode VIII.

Rogue One is the title for the first film in a unique series of big-screen adventures that explores the characters and events beyond the core Star Wars saga. Rogue One will be directed by Gareth Edwards (Monsters, Godzilla) and written by Oscar nominee Chris Weitz (Cinderella, About a Boy, Antz). The first actress cast is Felicity Jones, who garnered an Academy Award nomination and critical acclaim for her performance in The Theory of Everything. The idea for the story of Rogue One came from John Knoll, an Academy Award-winning visual effects supervisor and chief creative officer at Industrial Light & Magic. He will executive produce along with Simon Emanuel (The Dark Knight Rises, Fast & Furious 6) and Jason McGatlin (Tintin, War of the Worlds). Kathleen Kennedy and Tony To (Band of Brothers, The Pacific) are on board to produce and John Swartz (Star Wars: The Force Awakens) will co-produce. The film starts shooting this summer in London and is due for release on December 16, 2016.

In addition, Iger confirmed that Rian Johnson will write and direct Star Wars: Episode VIII. The film, which continues the saga after the events of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, is set for release on May 26, 2017 — forty years and a day after the release of Star Wars: A New Hope in 1977. Johnson is widely considered one of cinema’s most gifted young filmmakers, having directed the modern sci-fi classic, Looper, as well as Brick and The Brothers Bloom. He was also behind the camera for three episodes of the critically-acclaimed TV series Breaking Bad, including “Ozymandias,” which series creator Vince Gilligan named as the best installment of the show. Kathleen Kennedy and Ram Bergman, producer of Looper, Don Jon, Brick, and The Brothers Bloom, are on board to produce.

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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2015, 01:33:02 PM »
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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #73 on: March 12, 2015, 01:55:36 PM »
Looks like all good news to me.

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Re: Star Wars
« Reply #74 on: March 12, 2015, 02:12:09 PM »
Looks like all good news to me.

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