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Title: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 04, 2007, 01:43:50 pm
so there's always things i want to ask, but don't feel like starting up a new thread everytime i hear something odd
in the news or about certain things...
even if i do, or anyone does for that matter... the thread gets like 2 responses and it's done...

so maybe we can use this thread to post random crap we hear about different things, ie: movies, music, stuffs, etc...

like today...
i just read this... i've not heard about this movie yet..
i'm not trying to start a God debate either... i just think it's interesting and am surprised it hasn't gotten
as much heat as i would have expected....

Quote
THE GOLDEN COMPASS, a new movie targeted at children, will be released
December 7, 2007. This movie is based on a the first book of a trilogy
by atheist Philip Pullman. In the final book a boy and girl kill God
so they can do as they please. Pullman left little doubt about his
intentions when he said in a 2003 interview that "My books are about
killing God."
The movie is a watered down version of the first book and is designed
to be very attractive in the hope unsuspecting parents will take their
children to see the the movie and that the children will want the
books for Christmas.
The movie has a well known cast, including Nicole Kidman, Daniel Craig,
and Sam Elliott. It will probably be advertised extensively, so it is
crucial that we get the word out to warn people to avoid this movie.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 04, 2007, 01:52:53 pm
I'm not down with killing anybody....but I'm not down with "god" either.  Or organized religion for that matter. 

But yeah I would expect this one to get a lot of criticism.  ALOT.  But its only entertainment right?  Plus, I'm down with any movie with Sam "Gar" Elliott.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 04, 2007, 01:56:02 pm
Oh yeah, I think we can safely assume we'll be hearing from some right-wing nutjobs on this one, whether or not the movie is any good. Let's hope it enters the Republican primary debates, and they make fools of themselves.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on December 04, 2007, 02:34:15 pm
i thought the previews looked cool, had no idea of the plot...i will still see it, and maybe continue working on my plan to kill god, since he's everywhere, don't i just need to remove all sensory experiences from everyone, thereby killing everyone?  and how do i kill a rock?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 04, 2007, 02:44:17 pm
and how do i kill a rock?


THE Rock or just A rock?  Either way this movie may provide some insight.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 04, 2007, 02:46:33 pm
Oh yeah, I think we can safely assume we'll be hearing from some right-wing nutjobs on this one, whether or not the movie is any good. Let's hope it enters the Republican primary debates, and they make fools of themselves.


To keep the spirit alive here....

How about this......one of the Repubs running for office of Grand Pubah is an ordained minister!?!?!

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE! IS THERE NOT A SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE???? LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE PISSING ON THIS PART OF THE CONSTITUTION NOW!

Why isn't everyone up in arms about this?......oh that's right....because the general population is friggin brainwashed into letting this happen....

Just like we're brainwashed into believing that this is a 2 party political system......folks, you know how they keep arguing about term limits?.....how about this....QUIT VOTING FOR INCUMBENTS!

I give this country 2 more presidents before it all goes to hell at our expense......


Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 04, 2007, 02:47:51 pm
PS: You kill a rock with paper....everyone knows that!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 04, 2007, 02:55:27 pm
Props Marmar.  Couldn't agree more.  I have long voted for "other" parties and will continue to do so.  And no, I do not feel like I am wasting my votes.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sophist on December 04, 2007, 02:55:54 pm
so there's always things i want to ask, but don't feel like starting up a new thread everytime i hear something odd
in the news or about certain things...
even if i do, or anyone does for that matter... the thread gets like 2 responses and it's done...

so maybe we can use this thread to post random crap we hear about different things, ie: movies, music, stuffs, etc...

like today...
i just read this... i've not heard about this movie yet..
i'm not trying to start a God debate either... i just think it's interesting and am surprised it hasn't gotten
as much heat as i would have expected....

Quote
THE GOLDEN COMPASS, a new movie targeted at children, will be released
December 7, 2007. This movie is based on a the first book of a trilogy
by atheist Philip Pullman. In the final book a boy and girl kill God
so they can do as they please. Pullman left little doubt about his
intentions when he said in a 2003 interview that "My books are about
killing God."
The movie is a watered down version of the first book and is designed
to be very attractive in the hope unsuspecting parents will take their
children to see the the movie and that the children will want the
books for Christmas.
The movie has a well known cast, including Nicole Kidman, Daniel Craig,
and Sam Elliott. It will probably be advertised extensively, so it is
crucial that we get the word out to warn people to avoid this movie.


Why hasn't anyone else pointed out the blatant plagiarism of this plot?  Nietzsche killed God back in 1870's
been there, done that. 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 04, 2007, 03:09:10 pm
PS: You kill a rock with paper....everyone knows that!



(http://week4paug.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6490.0;attach=7453;image)

DUH  :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 04, 2007, 03:15:07 pm
MAD props. :clap:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 04, 2007, 03:19:50 pm
ty  :-)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Wolfmansbrother on December 04, 2007, 03:45:05 pm

Why hasn't anyone else pointed out the blatant plagiarism of this plot?  Nietzsche killed God back in 1870's
been there, done that. 


 :clap:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on December 04, 2007, 04:25:48 pm
They watered down and pretty much removed the overt athiest portions of the story when writing the screenplay in order to avoid angering up the religious nuts. It hasn't worked. They're already plotting to boycott the film even though they haven't seen it. :roll:

whatever. I'll be taking my eldest daughter simply to spite them.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 04, 2007, 04:37:05 pm
I hate when they remove overt atheist portions of anything.  Its like they are censoring and discriminating against MY religion....err....nonreligion.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: slslbs on December 04, 2007, 04:39:42 pm
I remember quite the stir when Dogma came out. (the movie was not even remotely offensive, imo)
This will make that seem pretty mild.

agree RJ
Seems to me like you shouldn't criticize it unless you've seen it.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 04, 2007, 04:46:11 pm
Agreed.   But there was a stir about Dogma?  haha
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: kellerb on December 04, 2007, 05:07:06 pm
One of their trademarks is to make up their mind about things before they know anything about them, and then refuse to listen to reason when confronted with facts.  So yes, there will be 'protests' and 'boycotts,'  just like with harry potter and anything else they think is anti-christian.  It won't amount to much of anything beyond some loudmouths whining.

Its interesting that you can see a lot of the catholic spokespeople backing away from this sort of thing and trying to be level-headed (Beyond a few people like bill donahoe).  Its almost like they think of the vocal religious right as their crazy brother-in-law or their buddy who always ends up getting them into bar-fights.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: bluecaravan521 on December 04, 2007, 05:24:31 pm
Good book series...I was probably too young at the time to realize what was going on about killing god, but the second one was reallllyy cool- it was about a knife that could cut holes into other dimensions.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 04, 2007, 06:21:13 pm
how do i kill a rock?


Couldn't we ask Muhammad Ali?


One of their trademarks is to make up their mind about things before they know anything about them, and then refuse to listen to reason when confronted with facts. 


There are nuts on all sides, but these "Christian" conservative types take the cake. Sad to say, I've actually had students--college freshmen--who didn't realize that there was not an established religion in the United States. And they had trouble grasping the concept, or recognizing the conflict that presented with their supposed valuing of "freedom."

During Women's Week down at UNC in '04, this group called "Feminists for Life" held a talk during the Take Back the Night Rally (way to play for the team, there...) I went to listen and see if I could learn anything about where they're coming from, try to better understand the Bible-belt mentality (after 3 years, it was still hard).

OK, honestly?... I got a buzz on and made a noisy nuisance of myself by asking pointed questions, which the speaker mostly couldn't answer. I did get her to admit she thought there were cases where abortion should be allowed, and even supported by public funds.

But what really surprised me was when I countered her claim that abortion is really risky. It isn't. Like it or not, medical abortion is statistically safer than childbirth. But this crowd? They didn't want to hear it--I got shouted down. They bring their own "facts" to the table, and that's it--no debate, just belief.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Wolfmansbrother on December 04, 2007, 10:57:43 pm
exactly
they can't seem to see the dividing line between faith and fact
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 05, 2007, 12:06:01 am
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/01-jones-jim.jpg)

"Ok everyone...drink the kool-aid......"
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mingus on December 05, 2007, 12:34:33 am
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

- Martin Luther King Jr.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: kellerb on December 05, 2007, 12:40:39 am
exactly
they can't seem to see the dividing line between faith and fact


Well, the whole point of faith is to believe something is fact.  Their real problem is that they are scared to test their faith against reason, logic, and things that people figure out via the scientific method.  The reason is that they are taught that they are not allowed to update or change their ideas about how God does things.  He uses magical powers to create animals and people, not naturally occurring phenomena like evolution that clearly occur in the universe he created.  They prefer their god to be a heterosexual Dumbledore, instead of a nerdy engineer-god.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: jephrey on December 05, 2007, 12:54:24 am
Or Rael...

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Wolfmansbrother on December 05, 2007, 01:08:00 am
the main reason i chose to be an atheist was because i practice logical thinking
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on December 05, 2007, 02:56:58 am


Its interesting that you can see a lot of the catholic spokespeople backing away from this sort of thing and trying to be level-headed (Beyond a few people like bill donahoe).  Its almost like they think of the vocal religious right as their crazy brother-in-law or their buddy who always ends up getting them into bar-fights.


As a Catholic, thats exactly how I feel about the religious right.

And I got a kick out of Dogma.

the main reason i chose to be an atheist was because i practice logical thinking


Logical thinking and faith are not necessarily mutually exclusive.  The decision to engage or not engage in faith based beliefs is personal, but also problematic for every single human being.  The fact that we have to confront the question in our own manner, to me any way, implies that there is something in human nature that must confront the existence of the other, that which is beyond their understanding.  This confrontation is a completely (at least for some  :-D) logical step.  It is just as ignorant to believe that people who choose faith based beliefs over non-faith based beliefs are somehow inferior in their reasoning skills as it is for those who choose faith based beliefs to condemn non-faith based beliefs.  The confrontation exists.

Some rise to this confrontation through their faith in reason, some abdicate this confrontation to faith in another power.  Either way, we must make some sort of decision in order to communicate our beliefs to others, being the social animals that we are.
My inability to reason to absolute perfection led me to abandon atheism and embrace the faith I was raised with. 

Those who use the idea of faith when they really mean political power are lying to either themselves or to those they speak to; those who listen to them.       
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 05, 2007, 09:06:29 am
Logical thinking and faith are not necessarily mutually exclusive. 


Excellent point, nab. My second-term writing class touches on this theme, and I've had the same trouble getting kids from a northeastern liberal-humanist background to recognize this, that I did in Carolina, getting Baptist kids to recognize that a firm belief in Christ, Savior wasn't the same thing as an experimentally verified scientific fact. Happily, in most cases in both regions, their habits of thought are still pretty supple, not rigid & brittle, and they manage to stretch a little.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
- Martin Luther King Jr.


I love that one. +k to both.

Edit to add: Let's hear it for AACB for starting the thread. How about it everyone? AACB, take a bow for the people...  :clap:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: shoreline99 on December 05, 2007, 09:52:53 am
Here's a link to the first five minutes of the film, through AICN and Yahoo.

http://aintitcoolnews.com/node/34966

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/thegoldencompass.html?showVideo=1

and a film review from that site as well
http://aintitcoolnews.com/node/34953
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 05, 2007, 10:47:31 am
This is way off the topic but....

I read this quote about a year ago in Rolling Stone and thought it was brilliant.  For some reason it inspired me.  I actually keep the cutout from the magazine in my wallet.  I don't know, I just find it interesting and enlightening in a way.  And lets not forget that this guy made the funkiest music known to man.

"A colored is a very frightened-to-death Afro-American. A Negro is one that makes it in the system, and he wants to be white. A nigger, he's loud and boisterous, wants to be seen. Nobody likes a nigger. A black man has pride. He wants to build, he wants to make his race mean something. Wants to have a culture and art forms. And he's not prejudiced. I am a black American man. Now you go ahead and print it." - James Brown, 1982
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 05, 2007, 11:06:26 am
Edit to add: Let's hear it for AACB for starting the thread. How about it everyone? AACB, take a bow for the people...  :clap:


can i curtsy? (sp?)  that's more fun ;)

but, i'd like to compliment eveyone thus far that's contributed to the thread.
one of the most civil conversations about religion/faith/beliefs i've seen in a long time...

so here's to you guys as well  :clap:

This is way off the topic but....


that's the point of this thread.... ADD ;)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on December 05, 2007, 11:13:30 am
I think its futile to believe that your personal God argument can win any public discussion.  There's no use in getting worked up about it.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 05, 2007, 11:26:31 am
I think its futile to believe that your personal God argument can win any public discussion.  There's no use in getting worked up about it.


right, but a lot of people dont' see it that way... sadly.  :|

p.s. maybe i knew this already, but i didn't remember that you were catholic.
i was raised that way, school and all....
but as of the past 7 years or so, i've had the hardest time with the church.
not just the local one (because we're in the south, it's not a very prevalent reliegion)
but the catholic church as a whole... i dunno...

oh well, kudos to you for sticking to your guns about it...  :-)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 05, 2007, 11:42:04 am
My wife was raised Catholic, in a VERY catholic town (Rutland, VT--Irish, Italian, & French Catholic neighborhoods & churches). Went to Mass at least once/week, twice many weeks. She quit virtually as soon as she got to college... at least as soon as she took a Women's Studies course. Her big sister was there, too--that probably helped...

Anyway, in more recent years (esp. since our time in Chapel Hill), she's softened on it a little. Not enough to go to Mass, raise the kid in the church, or even consider herself Catholic again, but she has seen the liberal side of the church, as compared to American mega-church evangelism. (After all, the Roman church has had to last 2000 years. That would require some flexibility.) It's still the sexism built in that bothers her, mostly. That and the reflexive guilt.

But what's more interesting is her mother's progression. Laura started giving her mom Ani DiFranco to listen to maybe 15 years ago, when her mom was in the threws of midlife, and she RAN with it. Kept going to Mass, but eventually... jump ahead to 2000, the civil union debate in VT, and her priest spent more than one whole sermon pontificating against it, calling queer people misguided, the bill evil... Not out & out hateful, but enought that my dutiful mother-in-law quit the church and hasn't gone back. This is a woman who was a Eucharistic minister, all sorts of volunteering for the priests, etc. Proud of her. Now she, my wife, and my sister-in-law do their own ritual every winter solstice.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on December 05, 2007, 01:45:13 pm
I think its futile to believe that your personal God argument can win any public discussion.  There's no use in getting worked up about it.


right, but a lot of people dont' see it that way... sadly.  :|

p.s. maybe i knew this already, but i didn't remember that you were catholic.
i was raised that way, school and all....
but as of the past 7 years or so, i've had the hardest time with the church.
not just the local one (because we're in the south, it's not a very prevalent reliegion)
but the catholic church as a whole... i dunno...

oh well, kudos to you for sticking to your guns about it...  :-)


Its taken a long time and a lot of introspection.  Like I said, I would have considered myself an atheist at one time in my life.  What changed was part of the process of growing up; I started to realize that I wasn't in fact infalable.   Then I realized that this applied to my (and by extension everyone else's) ability to reason.  Then I  realized that faithful or atheist, everyone has to confront what we would call the God question.  So I had to confront it myself.

So I was a student of Buddhism for a while.  The main attraction was the process of meditation that helped me with my mental state quite a bit.  I tend to over-analyze things quite a bit and need constructive ways to shut down my mind at times.  The problem was that, in my heart I never really considered myself a Buddhist.

It was then I realized that Catholicism, the religion of my upbringing and schooling through high school, already had a built in meditation in the form of the rosary.  I also began to warm to the church by realizing that in a lot of respects (not all, I'm aware of some of the downfalls of the Church) the Catholic church was a lot more liberal than the rising fundamentalist churches in the nation.  They have had a strong tradition of supporting the poor and the downtrodden.  They are the first to stand up against unjust wars, and are in fact in opposition to the current war as much as they were to Vietnam.  I've found Catholics on the whole (at least where I'm at) to be a lot less judgmental concerning people who violate some church laws (such as homosexuality, a view I'm in opposition to the church with) than many other more radical Christian denominations.  There is also a strong tradition of intellectual integrity and scholastic learning in the church.  Although they were responsible for Galileo's demise, they eventually espoused his position through a discourse in reason.  The church has also espoused evolution as a mechanism of God's creation. 

I am just now starting to go back to church.  We'll see where it goes.


Long story, thanks for reading if you did.  Just had to get that off my chest I guess.  Just my story do with it what you will.   
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 05, 2007, 01:58:20 pm
^^^ I read it and enjoyed it. While I'm not a person of faith, it's very easy for me to respect Catholics, or any faithful, like you. If all religious practitioners were as mindful and deliberate in their belief as you've described, nab, the world would be a better place.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 05, 2007, 02:15:16 pm
thanks for sharing that nab...
i read it as well...
and i can agree on lots of points, altho i've not explored other religions as routes.

i think what can open me up to the faith that i have is a group of 300 kids ranging from 6-18, plus counselors... sitting under a picnic pavillion in the rain, at 9.30 pm on a saturday night after group cookout night (where you and your co-counselor are so beat down from havnig to get 12 kids to work together on building a fire, preping/making dinner and cleaning it all up), sitting in what little lights we had under the pavillion, singing together. the kids weren't there because they all shared the same faith, very few did in fact but the camp was based around a presbyterian ideal; they were all there because they loved the outdoors and loved being with each other.... and singing was something they did beautifully.

damn.. i am a hippie sometimes  :roll:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 05, 2007, 02:24:19 pm
damn.. i am a hippie sometimes  :roll:

So was Jesus! Haven't you seen the pictures?!?  :wink:
Edit to add:
<--- 420!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 05, 2007, 04:38:21 pm
"Organized" Religion is no different than Organized Crime.....

The only purpose of organized religion is to control what YOU, the individual, believe....think....speak....and influence how your experience within the 5 sense reality is.

Instead of letting YOUR thoughts, intuition, and ideas flourish.....you get fed these "truths" and are taught to hold these virtues higher than anything else. We're all sinners.....we have to earn "his" redemption or we'll go to hell......the universe was created in HIS eyes......etc.....

BULLSHIT.

Just another effort by a certain group of people to exert their will on the population to dull the REAL GOD within EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US so they can control us into doing what THEY want us to do......so we see things the way THEY want us to....and so we believe what THEY want us to.....so we give our wealth (monetary AND spiritually) blindly to them for their doing.

If God is supposed to be about universal love, then why do THEY spread hate, and ignorance in HIS name?

It's all bullshit.....and it stinks......

PS: I'm not saying that everyone in organized religion is inherently bad. Many people who are involved are very good people.....it's just sad to see them being manipulated under the guise of "doing this for God" when in reality, they are doing it for the greed of the whole institution.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 05, 2007, 04:42:06 pm
Booyah!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 05, 2007, 04:56:13 pm
I have to respectfully disagree, mar-

And I write as an atheist, and one who sees a lot of harm being done in the name of religion. But I can't write off the entire enterprise of organized religion in the terms you used. So much good charitable work is done by churches. So many schools and libraries founded. And so many earnest people just trying to help their neighbors get by...

I absolutely agree that too often religion serves to close off thought and human connection; I also see uncritical adherence to liberal humanism doing the same thing, and plenty. And the comfy middle-class types who fall into that latter group are WAY less likely to volunteer and donate to charities--that's a fact.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 05, 2007, 05:25:35 pm
You are feeding my point exactly.....

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So much good charitable work is done by churches. So many schools and libraries founded.


Hmmm.....Schools and libraries......So lets fund a school......great! Great way to entice someone into your belief system, and have some influence on the impressionable minds of young people......and I'll go off on schools here in a moment......but first....

Libraries? Think about this for a moment......So now we have places that store hard copies of our collective information affiliated with an organization that goes massively out of its way to force its dis-information on even more of the masses......When certain books are denied entry to a library because a "church group" or someone speaks up because it says something bad about god, the church, etc.....

Just more ways to control what we are allowed to think, read, say, believe.......etc.

Same thing goes for schools......you are taught what THEY want you to know. Period. The history we are taught, the "social studies", even the sciences......you are taught one version of reality all thru your life so you come out indoctrinated into THEIR beliefs and THEIR reality......all they want is for you to come out a good little consumer who doesn't question things in an unconventional manor....

God forbid they let someone who has a mind of their own and knows how to use it, like me, escape the system....and believe me, they tried their damnedest to stifle me.

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And the comfy middle-class types who fall into that latter group are WAY less likely to volunteer and donate to charities--that's a fact.


Exactly....why do it if you have all the brainwashed sheeple already doing it "in the name of God"? Most of that said middle-class is brainwashed into thinking and believing this way.

For every good any church has ever done, you are bound to find at least 3 evils......so the ratio of good to evil with organized religion is 1:3.....

Religion's only purpose (in my eyes) is to create yet another way to divide the human consciousness and pit us against ourselves (keeping us busy fighting and killing each other) so they can exert their will and control over the rest of the population. England/Ireland? Over religion........Crusades?......How about English Colonial expansion into Africa????.....no more Shamen (our collective intelligence), convert to Christianity (what we TELL you is fact)!

To bring it to even more recent times......Huckabee and Romney......fighting over their religion, in a PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE WHERE IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO BELONGING.

Just another way to divide and control......
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on December 05, 2007, 05:29:10 pm
Blind Faith rocks! 
Isn't this is all about percieved reality?  plato has already covered this (Allegory of the Cave, The Republic)

While i may not be the most faithful, i respect those who really do beleive and follow.  Any religion.   

It seems that this discussion began with christianity, and their uproar over a movie...I would (and do) get somewhat offended when someone talks shit about the Dead or Phish or fishing or cooking or anything that i have real passion for, without the offending party fully exploring said passion.  The hardest part of any insult recovery is keeping emotions separate from passion in order to explicate reasons for such devotion.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 05, 2007, 05:35:34 pm
1. With regards to schools....I hated the way we never really learned about the Native Americans.  They never told us anything. 

2.  With regards to religion.....I always felt that religions were created to explain things.  The Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, etc, etc, etc all had their own and they all explained, in their eyes, how everything came to be with one god or many gods.  And they beleived it.  And thats cool.  Beleive what you want to beleive.  I got no beef with you if you don't have a beef with me for not beleiving the same.   

3.  Blind Faith does indeed rock.....if we are talking about the Blind Faith that contained 2/3 of the greatest rock trio in history..not to mention Stevie Winwood.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on December 05, 2007, 05:37:41 pm
3.  Blind Faith does indeed rock.....if we are talking about the Blind Faith that contained 2/3 of the greatest rock trio in history..not to mention Stevie Winwood.


Indeed, the exact faith i needed.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 05, 2007, 05:40:16 pm
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Isn't this is all about percieved reality?


To a degree......but when it crosses the fine line of letting YOU see YOUR reality and having someone else DICTATE to you, your reality.....

Opinions are one thing.......defending your opinions is inherently healthy.....it's when your opinions are suffocated by the sheeple.......and that's how they do it......nobody should care if I wear a green and pink polkadot sun dress every 3rd Tuesday.....I don't care that I do.....but you are bound to find someone that offends, and more often than not they are offended for a reason they have been BRAINWASHED into believing......

Think for yourself, not for what you are told to think.....

*Back on topic*
For pure entertainment, this movie looks ok.....I'll wait for it on DVD before I see it though......

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 05, 2007, 05:44:29 pm
Indeed, the exact faith i needed.


Booyah again.  How sick was that band?  Damn they were good.  One album.  SICK.

I'll be waiting for the dvd as well.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: cimsm on December 05, 2007, 05:44:50 pm

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Think for yourself, not for what you are told to think.....


Well, if you say so...
 :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 05, 2007, 05:58:51 pm
lol.....wiseass
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 05, 2007, 06:02:49 pm

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Think for yourself, not for what you are told to think.....


Well, if you say so...
 :-D

 :lol: :lol:
Cheers, mar. We agree by at least 90%.  :beers:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 05, 2007, 06:04:51 pm
And I keep forgetting--I dig that new avatar. Jedi jazz?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 05, 2007, 06:18:54 pm
 :beers:

YES!

Yoda was a mean ass bass player in his day man......he could hold a groove like no other.......
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 05, 2007, 06:20:51 pm
Of course he was--he could use the force on other instruments, vibrate strings without touching them, etc.!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on December 05, 2007, 06:48:50 pm
you think he ever force-jerked one off?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: cimsm on December 05, 2007, 06:50:49 pm
lol.....wiseass


Just trying to lighten the mood...
I agree with most of what you said though.
 :-)

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 05, 2007, 06:52:40 pm
you think he ever force-jerked one off?

^^^  :evil:

An old, wrinkled, green dude? Almost certainly.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 05, 2007, 06:55:34 pm
you think he ever force-jerked one off?


i think this is the best line i've heard in a while!!   :lol:

thanks for the laugh boba.... k+ for that :)  :clap:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: kellerb on December 05, 2007, 06:57:39 pm
you think he ever force-jerked one off?


When 900 years old you are, jerk off manually you will not, hurrmph?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mingus on December 05, 2007, 07:02:15 pm
you think he ever force-jerked one off?


When 900 years old you are, jerk off manually you will not, hurrmph?


 :lol:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mingus on December 05, 2007, 07:19:58 pm
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Isn't this is all about percieved reality?


Think for yourself, not for what you are told to think.....




Even though this discussion has fizzled out.  I'd like to add my 3 cents...

There are many people that don't know how to think for themselves and are drawn to situations where someone tells them how to think.  I think it started when they "left the nest".  At this point some of us start to or are already thinking for ourselves.  Others immediately marry someone that will tell them what/when and how to do things.  Look at people that base their life decisions on a 1-900 horoscope or a palm reader.  Same thing.  Without out organized religion, I truly believe some people would wander off aimlessly and get run over by life.  "I once was lost but now I'm found" says a lot. 

Hopefully the people that have the potential to think for themselves wake up and realize that are truths and lies in many of the things we are told.  It's up to us to decide what makes sense and go with it.

It all boils down to three paths.  Leading, following & wandering.  I prefer #3 but #1 and #2 are unavoidable.  Unfortunately all organizations tend to get top heavy and the followers suffer because of it.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: susep73 on December 05, 2007, 07:31:09 pm
nice discussion, props to all but spec. I like what nab and mar conveyed.   :beers:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 05, 2007, 07:47:04 pm
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Without out organized religion, I truly believe some people would wander off aimlessly and get run over by life.


Ahhh....but then, isn't that part of the natural way of things?....*shouldn't they be left behind?*.....again, "every soul must be saved".....so they can milk it for all it has.....make it work for them instead of themselves.....Sure, some folks are lost.....but if left on its own, it would naturally either become part of the "group" or be "phased out".....This is where the power of persuasion and the power of suggesting to the weakened mind that becomes dangerous. I see some of the situations being completely exploited this way for THEIR gain, not the individuals.

Think of it in the same way the Army is going after recruits......We'll pay for college! (since you're from a poor inner-city welfare family)....See the world, interact with exotic cultures, and don't forget to kill them before they kill you! I'm not anti-military....it is needed.....I'm anti-recruiting techniques that take advantage of weakened mind states and use their influential propaganda to do their dirty work.....

I'll even go way out on a limb here, so bear with me.....
<rant>
Take my situation. The hospital I go to, is church backed....like, the church runs the hospital. I can't even begin to explain how dirty some of these tactics really are. I'm sure if I wasn't on top of my shit mentally, they'd be able to exploit it and convert my ass into something they want me to "believe I need to be in order to get better". Every time I'm sitting there getting pumped with these toxic chemicals, there stands a nun/sister/penguin/whatever, asking me if after I get thru this if it would be proof enough for me to accept the "lord our savior heysoose christ"......WTF man! Here I am...you don't know me....you don't know what I believe in.....you know nothing about me except the fact that I am a potential dollar on the collection plate if you get me into your church. I totally appreciate the fact they are doing what they are for me at their hospital; reducing the bills immensely, super flexible payment schedule, amazing doctors, yadda yadda yadda......but how dare they, try to take advantage of someone who is SICK and fighting for their life by trying to get me to believe something and hold as all knowing fact above all else......UGGGGHHHHHHHH!  :frustrated:

If you want me that bad, implant the electrodes please....cuz I'm NOT that easy.....
</rant>

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sophist on December 05, 2007, 08:18:28 pm
From another thread:
http://week4paug.net/index.php/topic,7349.msg123315.html#msg123315 (http://week4paug.net/index.php/topic,7349.msg123315.html#msg123315)

I can't speak for RJ, but my beef is that modern Christianity is nothing more than a marketing ploy to fill the seats of a church in order to market god via flat screen TVs, state of the art light shows, crappy rock music, and an uncanny level of verbosity that would confuse God himself. 

American Christians in particular have this sense that wealth is a gift from god, and that just isn't true.  As you know, the bible paints a picture of people who serve a god, and ask for little in return.  Now preachers claim that god will reward those who tithe and attend church.  The bottom line is that anyone gets into heaven if they repent, but this is ignored.  Agendas are made on bullshit social premises that discriminate and isolate society.  It is completely corrupt from an organized perspective.  Those that are on their own with god, may have a better understanding and be more faithful to a god, but they are few and far between. 

For me, I see religion as a fuse that creates differences in mankind.  I do favor the notion presented by the English philosopher Francis Bacon, that the removal of institutional religion would create a global society of peace.  I think the major problems of war are fueled by organized religion more than any other factor in this day in age.  Look at the misogynistic nature of the Islamic nations which is due entirely to religion, and the "war" on homosexuality in the states.  These could be avoided had people realized that views are all relative to that reality.  It's wrong to presume that one's set of values is fit for society.  Its even more unjust to limit the choices of individuals due to some intangible entity. 



Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 05, 2007, 08:21:14 pm
"Sure, any old soul is worth saving, at least to a priest, but not every soul is worth buying--so you can take the offer as a compliment." --William S. Burroughs

 :evil: :banana:

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 05, 2007, 08:59:26 pm
lol.....wiseass


Just trying to lighten the mood...
I agree with most of what you said though.
 :-)




;)

 :beers:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: bluecaravan521 on December 05, 2007, 11:26:16 pm
good points mar- i really liked the point about the god within us...I mean if no religion told people what to think- think about how many million different faiths there would be! Everyone could believe what they wanted about god(s), the afterlife...etc. thats what i try to do with my own faith, I try to do what I believe, I'm not intimidated by the church and its overwhelming numbers into thinking that MY version of things is wrong... 
I've pretty much cast of all church relations from myself, although the one thing that I think should be useful but fails pretty terribly is the morality that it promotes...and while so many people throughout history from the crusaders to phelps do not follow the morality of their religions, I tend to agree with most of the morals christianity puts forth...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on December 06, 2007, 12:04:09 am
After reading this entire thread I have one thing to add:







































(http://www.hasharat.co.il/images/albumThumb_3576_Iron_Maiden_-_The_Number_Of_The_Beast.jpg)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 06, 2007, 12:04:53 am
oh eddie.....
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on December 06, 2007, 03:04:45 am
"Sure, any old soul is worth saving, at least to a priest, but not every soul is worth buying--so you can take the offer as a compliment." --William S. Burroughs

 :evil: :banana:





Never trust a religious son-of-a-bitch.  His word ain't worth shit, not with the good Lord telling him how to fuck you on the deal.

-William S Burroughs "Advice for Young People"
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 06, 2007, 10:04:18 am
"Sure, any old soul is worth saving, at least to a priest, but not every soul is worth buying--so you can take the offer as a compliment." --William S. Burroughs

 :evil: :banana:





Never trust a religious son-of-a-bitch.  His word ain't worth shit, not with the good Lord telling him how to fuck you on the deal.

-William S Burroughs "Advice for Young People"


"If, after having been exposed to someone's presence, you fell as if you've lost a quart of plasma, avoid that presence."

Did you learn this off the Material album, nab?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on December 06, 2007, 10:21:59 am
No, I learned it off the box set.  Damn I wish I still had that.

http://www.amazon.com/Best-William-Burroughs-Giorno-Systems/dp/B000006CMX

And I remembered this morning that I screwed up the quote.  It actually goes like this:

If you're doing business with a religious son-of-a-bitch, get it in witting. Why, his word ain't shit, not with the good Lord telling 'im how to fuck you on the deal.  -William S. Burroughs 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 06, 2007, 10:24:24 am
That's right--I missed it in your post. Is the reading set to music in that set? You might want to check out Material's "Hallucination Engine"--Burroughs is only on one track, but the album is good trancy-trippy stuff.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on December 06, 2007, 10:29:26 am
A buddy of mine had that album, I've heard it before.  Not really my cup of tea music wise.  The reading I quoted is not set to music, but took place at a college.  That box set is great for the fist track on the second cd "Ah Pook Is Here: Air Pook Is The Mayan God Of Death,".  I love the irony in that one and it appeals to my archeology nerdiness.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on December 06, 2007, 11:44:04 am
what ever happened to the incan empire?  Has anyone been to Machu Pichu?

Mar, that hospital shit ain't right...its like fucking a really drunk 18 yr old at a wedding reception, minus the fun coitus...ok, maybe that's not a good analogy, but i feel where you are coming from.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on December 06, 2007, 11:51:03 am
Mayan or Incan?



The Mayans are still in the Yucatan.  The Incans were torn apart by a combination of the Spanish and rival tribes the Spanish had hired to do their dirty work.  Thats the short answer.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on December 06, 2007, 11:55:48 am
but the spanish never made it to Machu Pichu.  where the hell did they go?  oh yeah, the aliens. man, how could i forget that?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: shoreline99 on December 06, 2007, 11:57:34 am
Nice summation of what we were discussing originally...

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But is the film offensive? No. I've gotta side with the American Catholic Bishops that viewed this film rather than the headline grabbing William Donohue and his Catholic League. Sure, when viewed by an adult familiar with Pullman's religious stances and the overall theme of the books – yeah, there's still enough there for a reasoned adult to see the themes. But when viewed on its own, looked at without a lot of the contextual references that New Line and Weitz were very careful to excise from this mass distributed version of the story, there is nothing deliberately anti-religion, anti-god or especially anti-catholic. Does the Magesterium look a lot like the very worst of the Catholic church? Sure – there's a definite aspect of the Inquisition to it. But it is nothing to get in a twist over – just the usual anti-authoritarian stuff prevalent in just about every great adventure story ever written. But it's not like there really are still Catholics out there trying to tell us what we should watch, read or think...is there?

Oh.

And this bollocks about the movie being a gateway to the books – which admittedly do contain some anti-religious/anti-Christian sentiments – dude, if it bothers you don't let your kids read the books. It really is that simple. Tell them that the movie's different. It is. And it's safe. You know, as safe as a PG-13 movie can be. Donohue and his bunch have really kind of missed the point here. New Line specifically toned down the offensive content as not to rile up the boycotters, to provide a film that entertained instead of proselytized – and rather than thanks, they get calls of a boycott. Just what kind of message are you trying to send there, Bill? If you take issue with the books, caution parents against the books – not the movie that had its offensive bits sanitized.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 06, 2007, 12:05:13 pm
A buddy of mine had that album, I've heard it before.  Not really my cup of tea music wise. 


Fair enough. I'll tell ya though, that Material album, Infrared Roses, and the Beastie Boys' instrumental compilation got me down off the acid cloud on a good, mellow groove more than once... I'd load in those three and some early MMW and ride it out with a big grapefruit and some early am beer.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: cactusfan on December 06, 2007, 02:16:35 pm
burroughs on the impasse of a one god universe:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/i8zhf6
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: shoreline99 on December 06, 2007, 11:00:45 pm
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In the old days, it was not called the Holiday Season; the Christians called it 'Christmas' and went to church; the Jews called it 'Hanukkah' and went to synagogue; the atheists went to parties and drank. People passing each other on the street would say 'Merry Christmas!' or 'Happy Hanukkah!' or (to the atheists) 'Look out for the wall!'


Dave Barry, "Christmas Shopping: A Survivor's Guide"
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 07, 2007, 10:40:22 am
I bypass the xmas eve parties and go straight to the bar.  Usually the bars on xmas eve are so empty and quiet.  Its fantastic.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 07, 2007, 11:12:51 am
Semi-new topic. Marmar's comments about his hospital reminded me of a friend'c omplaint about the health plan offered by a Catholic prep school she worked at... She was basically covered for childbirth, and that was it. Not a big surprise. Neither is this (see link below), really.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/12/05/teen.births.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/12/05/teen.births.ap/index.html)

Anyone--odds on how long it'll take national politics to accept the truth on this?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 07, 2007, 03:52:29 pm
Well......considering the plan to reduce the world population to roughly 500,000,000.....(yes, this is carved into stone outside a FEMA building that strangely looks like the rooftop scene from Ghostbusters when they're fighting Zuul....look into it if you don't believe me.....They have this tendency to put their intention boldly in our face like this)

Makes me wonder why this policy is put forth by one of the groups involved......I'd be more interested in the motivations behind this policy......There's always 2 "versions" of reality running, there's the "movie" (what they tell and show us), and what's really going on......this warrants looking behind the movie screen to see why this is being put forth......
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 07, 2007, 03:55:11 pm
Sounds like the Matrix.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on December 07, 2007, 05:20:53 pm
sounds like plato!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 07, 2007, 05:30:59 pm
(http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/images/uploads/children_of_the_matrix.jpg)

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There are two things you need if you are to uncover and communicate what is really happening in the world. One is to be free of any dogmatic belief system. The second is not to give a damn what people think and say about you, or, at least, not to let that influence your decisions.

We are born into a world controlled by unseen forces that have plagued and manipulated humanity for thousands of years. No, this is no script from a Hollywood movie. It is happening to you NOW.

You may look around and think that what you see is "real". But in truth you are living in an illusion - an illusion designed to keep you in a mental, emotional, and spiritual prison cell.



it is only an illusion.........
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 07, 2007, 05:40:52 pm
AND.....there is no spoon.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on December 07, 2007, 05:41:07 pm
This is completely random, but thats what this thread is for, right?  But did anyone else hear the rumors that Peter Jackson is going to direct The Hobbit in the next few years?   :-D  This makes me VERY happy.  The kicker?  Rumor has it that its gonna be in 3D!!!!!

Also rumored that they are going to re-release the LOTR Trilogy in 3D as well.  I think I will freak out if/when that day comes to pass.  
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 07, 2007, 05:45:44 pm
No shit?!  I so wish they would do the Hobbit.  I haven't heard that rumor but since the LOTR came out I have been hoping that they will do this one.... and with the same intensity, and players, ie Jackson and the dudes who played Gandalf and Bilbo.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on December 07, 2007, 05:48:33 pm
Yeah, I am pretty big fan of them all.  The Hobbit, especially.  It was a book that I read as a child, and thoroughly enjoyed.  I used to have a pretty active imagination.  I didn't move on to the LOTR until high school... 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 07, 2007, 05:55:24 pm
This has been bouncing around movie news/rumor sites for a while--for a while, New Line wrote Jackson off b/c of a lawsuit over $ he claimed they owed him from the Fellowship film. Now both parties seem to have softened a bit. I think it would be tragic if jackson didn't do the Hobbit movie. And Sir Ian has to be Gandalf again. Otherwise I go crazy, speed-freak karate on all their ass.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 07, 2007, 05:59:28 pm
Hobbit was in HS for me.... LOTR not til after college.  I was always disappointed with that Hobbit cartoon that came out.  It sucked.  Good for kids though I guess.  They left so much stuff out though.  The LOTR movies would have been like 8 hours each if they left everything from the books in.  Very tragic if Jackson didn't tackle this one though.         

I'm going to begin spreading this rumor in my neck of the woods.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on December 07, 2007, 06:05:02 pm
Heres the link: http://marketsaw.blogspot.com/2007/11/hot-hobbit-news-jackson-will-helm.html

Hot Hobbit News! Jackson Will Helm "The Hobbit" As Two 3D Prequels to LOTRs! AND...

 ORIGINAL POST:
Ok folks - this is hot off my sources and they are the ones who provided the Avatar Ney'tiri image so it is pretty darn reliable:




Peter Jackson will indeed DIRECT "The Hobbit"! This is my second source telling me this. You can be 100% SURE that this is happening. The story will be split into two separate movies as was previously thought with the second relating much more to "Lord of the Rings" than the first.


Wait, as if that wasn't enough: Here is the kicker people: "The Hobbit" will be in 3D. Yes. You heard it on MarketSaw first - both Hobbit movies will be shot in 3D. FURTHER, New Line and Peter Jackson then intend on converting the Lord of the Rings trilogy into 3D as well and re-releasing them in theaters between 2012 and 2014! How is that for big news??Awesome stuff!! I have this news from one source, not two.



Of course this is exclusive news and has not been announced by New Line or Peter Jackson yet. If my sources are 100% correct (and I have plenty of trust in them, believe me) then we are going to see an announcement relatively soon as "The Hobbit" is not a trivial project to be sure and needs to get ramped up!


Just what does this mean for the 3D movie industry? It means total validation. It underscores that if you are going to do a huge motion picture from today on, it had better be in 3D. George Lucas is still intending on converting his entire stable of Star Wars films into 3D too. The validation is huge for the movie industry as a whole and for the theater customers! Lets just hope that my sources are bang on as they usually are.

SAME DAY UPDATE: Here is an excerpt from my email with my source regarding CASTING:

"No casting info yet. But they are looking forward to bring back Sir Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis and Hugo Weaving. For these 3 actors, the chances are really good.I'm not sure about the release date, but I think 2010 for the first film, and 2011 for second, is what they are trying to get into everybodys calendar. So it would make sense with my information of following with the converted Trilogy in 2012 – 2014. That is all happening, but there must be said, that there is a possibility of +/- 1 to 2 years to the whole thing. If I get to know more, I try to tell ya."
I would heavily suspect that Jackson will shoot "The Hobbit" back to back as he is an old pro at that now and heck you know damn well that its gonna rake in cash. And as my source pointed out, finding a window to fit everyone's schedule is going to be damn hard.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 07, 2007, 06:05:37 pm
let's see.. hobit was grade school for me... LOTR, high school... and then i brought myself to read all the Star Wars books i could get my hands on in my "should be in college" years... my brother and i are still finding ones we havne't read.

man, that makes me feel like a nerd  :roll: :wink: :-)

but yeah, the hobbit in 3-D?!?!
sounds AMAZING  :-D

way to go on the random news, antelope!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on December 07, 2007, 06:07:42 pm
Just think about smaug in 3D!!!   :-o
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 07, 2007, 06:10:59 pm
Just think about smaug in 3D!!!   :-o



DAMN STRAIGHT!  Oh thats gonna be wicked.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 07, 2007, 06:12:57 pm
Just think about smaug in 3D!!!   :-o




DAMN STRAIGHT!  Oh thats gonna be wicked.


ummmm, HELL YEAH!!

(http://www.linkmesh.com/espanol/dragones/imagenes/smaug.jpg)
damn, i'm a dork :)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 07, 2007, 06:14:14 pm
I just smiled real big when I saw the pic of Smaug.  Dork?  Indeed.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 07, 2007, 06:23:09 pm
Dork party over here. Jackson's LOTR more than made up for the avalanche of crap that was Star Wars Episodes I, II. & III. The Hobbit by Jackson & WETA Workshop makes me feel 6 years old.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 07, 2007, 06:26:02 pm
Back on topic, though--isn't the entire body of Tolkein's works a Satanistic collection of soul-polluting, witchcraft-inspired filth?   :evil: :wink:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 07, 2007, 06:31:20 pm
I saw Episode I when it came out.  I almost immediately wanted my money back.  I just wasn't working for me.  I have yet to see the rest of them.  I am pretty sure I won't. 

I'm ok with cgi stuff and all that but... maybe the new ones would have been better if it was done with the technology of Star Wars, Empire and Jedi.  But again, I only saw the first one and thought the story sucked too.  Now what Jackson and company did with LOTR..that shit was phenomenal.  It worked very well.  Everything, to me, seemed pretty realistic and non cgi-like.

Back on topic, though--isn't the entire body of Tolkein's works a Satanistic collection of soul-polluting, witchcraft-inspired filth?   :evil: :wink:


I hope so.  :wink:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on December 07, 2007, 08:07:30 pm
Shame Jackson is already signed on to three films with 2009 release dates (rushed through due to the writer's strike):
Lovely Bones (filming)
District 9 (pre-production. sci-fi)
Halo (announced. scheduled for 2009 release. yes. it's based on the game.  :roll:)

An official Hobbit announcement will make me happier than hell. Ian Holm will hopefully be available, though he's old as hell...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 07, 2007, 10:49:36 pm
**Dork alert** I have all 3 extended edition DVDs. I think I remember that what they did for the 'young' Bilbo flashback scene--where he finds the Ring near Gollum's lair--was basically pull back Holm's skin and pin it behind his head, to smooth out the wrinlkes. Old-skool special effects, yo.

Odds on there being a good actor who can pass well for Ian Holm's Bilbo?

...odds on Halo not sucking balls?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on December 07, 2007, 11:15:09 pm
Immediately after ROTK came out, both Ians (Holm & McClellan) got together and petitioned Peter jackson to make the Hobbit.


Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: bluecaravan521 on December 08, 2007, 12:43:24 am
That is GREAT NEWS! Any validation on the 3D LOTR revamping? That would be epic  8-)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 08, 2007, 08:42:12 am
Immediately after ROTK came out, both Ians (Holm & McClellan) got together and petitioned Peter jackson to make the Hobbit.


This makes me feel 6 years old on a sugar high.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mingus on December 09, 2007, 01:54:20 am
...Geocaching?


Anyone into it?... tried it?...

I just bought a Garmin Etrex Legend handheld GPS for hiking and to try geocaching.

Sounds like a good way to get out and discover some cool places we didn't know about.  Seems people like to hide these things in some interesting places.  Historical, backwoods scenic spots, waterfalls , overlooks, ruins, etc.

http://www.geocaching.com
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: xanadux3 on December 09, 2007, 08:15:59 am
...Geocaching?


Anyone into it?... tried it?...

I just bought a Garmin Etrex Legend handheld GPS for hiking and to try geocaching.

Sounds like a good way to get out and discover some cool places we didn't know about.  Seems people like to hide these things in some interesting places.  Historical, backwoods scenic spots, waterfalls , overlooks, ruins, etc.

[url]http://www.geocaching.com[/url]



I dont go looking for them but I've come across 2 of them where I work (a botanical gardens). Now that I know where they are its fun to watch people look for them, they are pretty popular.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: khanti on December 09, 2007, 12:33:00 pm
...Geocaching?


Anyone into it?... tried it?...

I just bought a Garmin Etrex Legend handheld GPS for hiking and to try geocaching.

Sounds like a good way to get out and discover some cool places we didn't know about.  Seems people like to hide these things in some interesting places.  Historical, backwoods scenic spots, waterfalls , overlooks, ruins, etc.

[url]http://www.geocaching.com[/url]



Likewise, on one of the Disc Golf courses I play a lot there is a cache. Seeing folks with their GPSs wandering the course has got me hankering to try it.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on December 09, 2007, 11:23:06 pm
...Geocaching?


Anyone into it?... tried it?...

I just bought a Garmin Etrex Legend handheld GPS for hiking and to try geocaching.

Sounds like a good way to get out and discover some cool places we didn't know about.  Seems people like to hide these things in some interesting places.  Historical, backwoods scenic spots, waterfalls , overlooks, ruins, etc.

[url]http://www.geocaching.com[/url]




I've wanted to try that for a while now.  Sounds fun.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mingus on December 10, 2007, 12:52:57 am

I've wanted to try that for a while now.  Sounds fun.


I told my wife about it and she was really into it.  We're meeting her family down in Orlando for Christmas.  We needed a few excursions to get away from the Disney thing so we rented an airboat/swampboat and a guide to look for gators.  I also thought we'd take off in the rental car and try geocaching for a day.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 11, 2007, 10:33:35 pm
OK.. not really a have you heard..more of a what do ya know?  Organic foods and such.  Me and the wife have been eating organic for quite some time and I am familiar with our own views on it but I'm curious as to others knowledge of....all that.

Some say theres not much difference between organic and nonorganic.  Some say its not worth the cost.  Some say it hurts the environment more because things have to travel greater distances to get to you.  "Have you heard" any of this?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: thechad on December 12, 2007, 04:25:29 am
I think organic foods, mainly vegetables and especially tomatoes, taste better.  It's worth the extra cash to eat something that tastes like what it is supposed to.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 12, 2007, 08:41:59 am
^^^I agree with thechad, and not to mention that organics avoid some nastiness you get with intensive monocultured crops. Organics also seem more sustainable over the long run.

IMHO, however, the caveats steele brings up are valid, too. Take the case of Earthbound Farms, which distibutes those handy clear plastic clamshell containers of organic mesclun mix, baby spinach, etc., nationwide: they have thousands and thousands of acres in North and South America to provide that stuff consistently year-round; they use a laser leveling system to grade the fields... it's intensive agruculture any way you cut it, industrial fertilizers or no. And all winter, that stuff is being shipped here by truck and air.

For myself, I've decided that 'local' trumps 'organic' if it's a choice between the two. This might be easier for me, living in a small rural state--the producers are nearby and easy to study. I'll buy cheese and butter from Cabot Creameries, which is owned by a compact of Vermont dairy farmers, no matter what. Same with green stuff--as long as the local production holds out, I buy that. And meats whenever possible, although there's not too much local beef farming. Lots of eggs & chickens.

I'd love to hear from others on this, too--Bobafett has to weigh in.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on December 12, 2007, 09:51:52 am
Local is great when you can get it.  In Montana, there is always plenty of local meat (and other animal products like milk, eggs, and cheese) to go around all year.  What isn't produced on the farm nature provides in the form of a freezer full of game, which (barring they weren't eating some weird stuff) is organic, local, sustainable, and ethically harvested. 

This is not the case for vegetables and fruit in the winter.  Many fruits we can't get to grow here at all, while other crops require intensive agriculture. Grains are easy to acquire from local sources.  I am lucky in Missoula to have a great farmer's market to attend every weekend.  Not only are fruits and vegetables sold, but also herbs, flowers and local meat.  It is possible in the summer to survive on food that came only from the valley the city resides in.  There is also a strong push for organic at the farmers market, in fact it is almost impossible to sell your wares without it.

Some people around here get around the short growing season by caning and freezing.  This is what my family does with the produce from my mom's large garden.  Some of the crops from that garden last all winter on their own, such as potatoes and onions.  Still canned and frozen veggies only taste so well, and lets face it, you can't make a salad out of them.

And as an aside, I love the Cabot cheeses that sunrisevt mentioned.  Some of that stuff makes it out to one of our locally owned stores here, and that stuff is delicious.  I especially like the habenro, chipolte, and tomato basil varieties of cheddar.  Mmmm...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 12, 2007, 10:21:06 am
The questions I brought up here ar the same ones I brought up to the wife when she began introducing all this to my lifestyle.  I'm down with the organics.  I think the taste is better on most things.  I woudl love to do more local foods but it gets sorta difficult in the area that I'm in....damn suburbia.  Local was much easier in New Orleans.  We are thinking of doing some CSA share things next year for veggies and fruits. 

Meat is a little harder for me...I'd love to have more "natural" meat but damn is it expensive.  I mean, for the price of 2 giant chicken breasts at Whole Foods I can get a big bag of chicken breasts at Sams Club.  And the Sams Club chicken is actually labeled as hormone free.  So its close.  Plus for my pork I get a full pork loin from Sams, cut my own chops and can get about 25 chops off the loin for about $20.  $6 at Whole foods will get you two tiny paper thin chops.  I hate for it to be about money but....sometimes its about money.     
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 12, 2007, 10:50:56 am
All good points, although I won't willingly give any money to Sam Walton's heirs. Costco, on the other hand--I'm all over that.

We have the same trouble with produce here in Vermont--the growing season isn't longer than 150 days anywhere, and that's only in the lake & river valleys. Everywhere else it's hill farming--i.e., mining nutrients out of poor soil by using sheep & cows to extract them & deposit as fertillizer.

nab, I'm not sure they ever make it out of New England, but if you can get any of the Reserve stock cheddars from Cabot, they're amazing. STRONG, sharp, crumbly stuff. Smaller dairies, too--Grafton, Vt. Butter & Cheese are the most common.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 12, 2007, 11:40:14 am
I get a free membership from my work to Sams.  Beleive me though... I hate Sams club with a passion.  Giant Sams club shoppers with giant Sams club carts and giant Sams club purchases.  I go in there for 2 reasons...chicken and pork. And I get the hell out of there.  If there were more small shops, butchers, local produce farmers, etc. close by I'd be all over it.  Sometimes it seems that by driving the 15-40 miles that I might have to in some cases....eh.. its jsut seems I'm doing more harm than good.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on December 12, 2007, 02:46:18 pm
I get a free membership from my work to Sams.  Beleive me though... I hate Sams club with a passion.  Giant Sams club shoppers with giant Sams club carts and giant Sams club purchases.  I go in there for 2 reasons...chicken and pork. And I get the hell out of there.  If there were more small shops, butchers, local produce farmers, etc. close by I'd be all over it.  Sometimes it seems that by driving the 15-40 miles that I might have to in some cases....eh.. its jsut seems I'm doing more harm than good.





True.


I'm lucky to live where I do.  There is enough local meat to keep the prices down.  Organic meat is only slightly higher than non-organic here, so definitely worth the price.  An organic steak would only go for about .50 to a dollar more per package, not pound, and depending on the cut.  In some cases its actually cheaper considering fuel costs that are added to the other stuff that the local stuff doesn't have to endure.  In fact I see that trend in the summer with produce that is locally grown as well.  Farmer's Market produce is so much cheaper than store bought stuff.  For example I got 2 lbs of shallots for $2.00 last summer.  You'd never see that in the store.  My wife and I haven't been inside a Walmart (don't have a Sam's Club, but same difference) for at least 5 years, but we're able to here.  You gotta do what you gotta do sometimes.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 12, 2007, 02:54:00 pm
And I have to imagine that organic, free range chicken is way cheap if its local.  Same for pork.  Too bad my only close options for food are Whole Foods and Trader Joes.  I dig em... but I'd much rather go to some nice local places like yall are.  Maybe I'll just drive somewhere once a year and get a ton of meat and freeze the hell out of it.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 12, 2007, 03:39:09 pm
I get a free membership from my work to Sams.  Beleive me though... I hate Sams club with a passion.  Giant Sams club shoppers with giant Sams club carts and giant Sams club purchases.  I go in there for 2 reasons...chicken and pork. And I get the hell out of there.  If there were more small shops, butchers, local produce farmers, etc. close by I'd be all over it.  Sometimes it seems that by driving the 15-40 miles that I might have to in some cases....eh.. its jsut seems I'm doing more harm than good.


I hear you on all counts, steele. A couple of years ago, right after we moved back north from Chapel Hill, it was shop at Super Wal-Mart, or drive an hour into Vermont (we were in far eastern NY then) to a decent grocery store. The drive usually won, b/c we'd make a day of it and meet friends, too. But just for groceries... I gotcha.

And I find the same thing with farmer's markets--in the season, they beat the hell out of store shopping. For the winter, though, I loves me my citrus fruits. I think I'd get scurvy otherwise. (I'm pretty sure they're not local.  :wink: )

With my old man's hunting, my folks are getting close to not buying meat at all--a deer and a couple dozen birds every year makes for a full freezer. I don't have the eyesight for it...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on December 12, 2007, 03:46:08 pm
well, I know organics taste better...the first time i tried an Organisc Raspberry, i creamed in my mouth (thats a good thing, not a gay thing)...I think the most important part of it is to understand the smoke and mirrors behind everything in America.  Yeah, they are labed organic and have the stamp of FDA approval and yadayada, but California is the only state with very strict guidelines on inspections of said organic farms...

where i am in MS, it is retardedly simple to pass off "home-grown" as organic, when a majority of the local gardeners are of the old school mind set, just throw a little 7-dust on it, miracle grow every 3 weeks, and i expect this is the case in most of the rural parts of the country...

who knows what goes on on those farms in Mexico and South America.  Maybe i am a cynic, but i highly doubt all of that produce to be organic (human shit doesn't count, remeber the spinach scare!)

I am lucky enough to have access to some fine proteins that are organic.  My friend has goats, lamb, chickens and ducks (a la foiegras) and of course any fish, deer, turkey, squirrel, rabbit that i kill on our farm is organic as organic could be.

Health wise, organics have to be more beneficial to our bodies.  I find it somewhat ironic that it took America 75+ years to realize that the way people lived at the turn of the century was a more healty lifestyle than where we are today, and you can charge more for it! 

And finally, its all about communion with the earth, the most sacred act we can do...earth to mouth.  If i kill anything, i try to use every part possible...nature is my higher power (12stepper)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 12, 2007, 05:07:40 pm
...the first time i tried an Organisc Raspberry, i creamed in my mouth (thats a good thing, not a gay thing)...


HA Nice.  Taste is mos def better.

But I'm a bit skeptical on some things as well and thats why I brought up the topic.  If I'm buying organic I want that stuff to be ORGANIC.  Not sorta organic.  But I also understand that if I am not growing or whatever myself, I can never know for sure.

BTW..rabbit is some of the most tender meat I have ever had. 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 12, 2007, 05:52:15 pm
And that's why I go local over organic if it's one or the other. And agreed on rabbit--a place I worked years back (fine dining country French-style) had a salad app of blanched show peas and rabbit in a hazelnut vinaigrette... heaven.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 12, 2007, 06:01:18 pm
At a tapas restaurant in New Orleans for me with the rabbit.  Lightly grilled, a little lemon, pepper and garlic....I jsut got very hungry.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on December 12, 2007, 07:59:24 pm
i stew my hare.  the breed we have in the wild is known around here as a Cane Cutter and they are gigantic, like 3-4 lbs...stew it up with some rotel tomatoes and some chicken stock...serve with giant buttermilk biscuits.  holy sh......ut yo mouth.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 13, 2007, 01:07:25 am
hey.....

anyone in the D.C. area who can tell me wtf this area is?.......

http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=10&Z=18&X=1604&Y=21550&W=3

it's kinda creepy....satellite images are blurred out at high-rez.....that is the best pic I've seen of it.....I've been hearing some "weird" ideas as to what it is, but I'm going grass roots here.....

Here's the google map for reference: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=&near=Observatory+Ln+NW,+Washington+D.C.&sll=38.921072,-77.068298&sspn=0.008982,0.017338&ie=UTF8&ll=38.916414,-77.061796&spn=0.035929,0.069351&t=h&z=14&om=1

Switch that over to satellite view and watch the borders of the "lens"...amazing resolution, but that area is not so hot......

Odd huh?.....you can zoom in on the white house, but not this patch of DC?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: kellerb on December 13, 2007, 02:53:14 am
hey.....

anyone in the D.C. area who can tell me wtf this area is?.......

[url]http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=10&Z=18&X=1604&Y=21550&W=3[/url]

it's kinda creepy....satellite images are blurred out at high-rez.....that is the best pic I've seen of it.....I've been hearing some "weird" ideas as to what it is, but I'm going grass roots here.....

Here's the google map for reference: [url]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=&near=Observatory+Ln+NW,+Washington+D.C.&sll=38.921072,-77.068298&sspn=0.008982,0.017338&ie=UTF8&ll=38.916414,-77.061796&spn=0.035929,0.069351&t=h&z=14&om=1[/url]

Switch that over to satellite view and watch the borders of the "lens"...amazing resolution, but that area is not so hot......

Odd huh?.....you can zoom in on the white house, but not this patch of DC?



I clicked on those two links.  Weird.  Am I on a no-fly list now?   :-P
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 13, 2007, 04:14:19 am
Isn't it?

It looks like some sort of....I dunno....some sort of command and control center or something? I dunno, but it looks shady.....
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: tet on December 13, 2007, 09:46:08 am
that's the Naval Observatory in DC, the official residence of the VP. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Naval_Observatory
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 13, 2007, 09:48:26 am
I was about to guess "Cheney's 'undisclosed location'." But I remember hearing and reading that his actual residence was obscured on these sites, as well.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on December 13, 2007, 03:30:24 pm
that's the Naval Observatory in DC, the official residence of the VP. 

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Naval_Observatory[/url]




Without hitting the google maps, that was my first guess.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 13, 2007, 03:37:38 pm
From the wikipedia site:

Quote
As of November 2007, the competing Yahoo Maps did not censor this location.


Interesting.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 18, 2007, 01:45:49 pm
Confirmed by CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/18/film.thehobbit.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/18/film.thehobbit.ap/index.html)

Quote
NEW YORK (AP) -- Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema have reached agreement to make J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," a planned prequel to the blockbuster trilogy "The Lord of the Rings."


Peter Jackson is set to oversee the film adaptation of "The Hobbit."

Jackson, who directed the "Rings" trilogy, will serve as executive producer for "The Hobbit." A director for the prequel films has yet to be named.

Relations between Jackson and New Line had soured after "Rings," despite a collective worldwide box office gross of nearly $3 billion -- an enormous success. The two sides nevertheless were able to reconcile, with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios (MGM) splitting "The Hobbit" 50/50, spokemen for both studios said Tuesday.

"I'm very pleased that we've been able to put our differences behind us, so that we may begin a new chapter with our old friends at New Line," Jackson said in a statement. "We are delighted to continue our journey through Middle Earth."

Two "Hobbit" films are scheduled to be shot simultaneously, similar to how the three "Lord of the Rings" films were made. Production is set to begin in 2009 with a released planned for 2010, with the sequel scheduled for a 2011 release.

New Line Cinema is owned by Time Warner. (Time Warner is the parent company of CNN.) Sony and Comcast are among the owners of MGM.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 18, 2007, 01:46:37 pm
oh hell yes.
my day just KEEPS getting better :)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 18, 2007, 01:48:56 pm
Not sure if I can wait that long.  I need to forget about this completely until they come out and then I'll be shocked and happy. 

But ...  BOOYAH!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on December 18, 2007, 01:52:45 pm
Great news!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on December 18, 2007, 02:42:56 pm
Confirmed by CNN: [url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/18/film.thehobbit.ap/index.html[/url] ([url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/18/film.thehobbit.ap/index.html[/url])

Quote
NEW YORK (AP) -- Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema have reached agreement to make J.R.R. Tolkien's "The Hobbit," a planned prequel to the blockbuster trilogy "The Lord of the Rings."


Peter Jackson is set to oversee the film adaptation of "The Hobbit."

Jackson, who directed the "Rings" trilogy, will serve as executive producer for "The Hobbit." A director for the prequel films has yet to be named.

Relations between Jackson and New Line had soured after "Rings," despite a collective worldwide box office gross of nearly $3 billion -- an enormous success. The two sides nevertheless were able to reconcile, with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios (MGM) splitting "The Hobbit" 50/50, spokemen for both studios said Tuesday.

"I'm very pleased that we've been able to put our differences behind us, so that we may begin a new chapter with our old friends at New Line," Jackson said in a statement. "We are delighted to continue our journey through Middle Earth."

Two "Hobbit" films are scheduled to be shot simultaneously, similar to how the three "Lord of the Rings" films were made. Production is set to begin in 2009 with a released planned for 2010, with the sequel scheduled for a 2011 release.

New Line Cinema is owned by Time Warner. (Time Warner is the parent company of CNN.) Sony and Comcast are among the owners of MGM.





I literally just stood up in my office and did a little dance.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 18, 2007, 06:50:27 pm
I literally just stood up in my office and did a little dance.


Me, too, when I saw it.  :banana: :beers:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on December 20, 2007, 01:17:00 pm
Didn't really know where to ask this, but does anyone out there know if those little chocolate liquor bottles that are handed out as candy ACTUALLY have liquor in them?  A client just dropped by and gave me a bunch of them.  I just ate like 3 of them(I'm a chocolate addict) and feel like I have a small buzz.  UH OH.   :-)  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 20, 2007, 01:18:11 pm
Didn't really know where to ask this, but does anyone out there know if those little chocolate liquor bottles that are handed out as candy ACTUALLY have liquor in them?  A client just dropped by and gave me a bunch of them.  I just ate like 3 of them(I'm a chocolate addict) and feel like I have a small buzz.  UH OH.   :-)  Thanks in advance.


yes.
there's liquor in there...
like not even half a shot in each...

lightweight!!!  :-D :wink:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on December 20, 2007, 01:21:18 pm
 :roll:

SERIOUSLY!!!!!  I guess I'm a cheap date. :blushes:  I'm no shot/liquor guy though, pretty much strictly beers. 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 20, 2007, 01:27:34 pm
:roll:

SERIOUSLY!!!!!  I guess I'm a cheap date. :blushes:  I'm no shot/liquor guy though, pretty much strictly beers. 


it shows ;)
come more south.. we'll teach you how :)

but agreed. i usually stick to beers...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on December 20, 2007, 04:03:24 pm
HOWEVER....I do enjoy a nice small-batch bourbon on the rocks occasionaly.   :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 20, 2007, 04:10:58 pm
HOWEVER....I do enjoy a nice small-batch bourbon on the rocks occasionaly.   :-D


i knew we'd get along  :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on December 20, 2007, 04:28:13 pm
HOWEVER....I do enjoy a nice small-batch bourbon on the rocks occasionaly.   :-D

Antelope knows what's up.

but Ser, bro.. only 3 chocolates?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: willsteele on December 20, 2007, 04:31:03 pm
Maybe he didn't eat for days and the stomach was totally empty thus making him an uber lightweight.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on December 20, 2007, 04:32:45 pm
Maybe he didn't eat for days and the stomach was totally empty thus making him an uber lightweight.


If he tried to cop that line, I'd press the button-
(http://www.noheat.com/images/Bullshit-Button.jpg)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on December 21, 2007, 12:26:57 am
I said SMALL buzz.   :-D

This may be a silly question, but has anyone her from marmar recently?   :?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 21, 2007, 12:28:27 am
I said SMALL buzz.   :-D

This may be a silly question, but has anyone her from marmar recently?   :?


i have.

i'll just say... he's ok...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on December 21, 2007, 12:35:33 am
I said SMALL buzz.   :-D

This may be a silly question, but has anyone her from marmar recently?   :?


i have.

i'll just say... he's ok...


Ok, good to hear.  I was just thinkin' about it today.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 21, 2007, 12:45:29 am
right on..

yeah i think after christmas we wont' see him much...
he's hiatusing it out to the woods for a week or two...

so yeah..
he's weak, but he's fairing well :)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on December 21, 2007, 04:24:54 pm
Thanks for asking, 'lope--and thanks for knowing, aacb. I was wondering too.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 21, 2007, 05:13:56 pm
Thanks for asking, 'lope--and thanks for knowing, aacb. I was wondering too.


he's just kicking back & relaxing...
staying as strong and as healthy as he can...

good spirits tho :)
always good.

*see below*
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 21, 2007, 05:24:01 pm
did you hear about the guy who walked into a bar with jumper cables around his neck?


















the bartender said "you can stay, just don't start anything..."
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Marmar on December 21, 2007, 05:39:28 pm
and yes....I'm still alive....thanks for asking.....

I'm just really wiped out. So tired. AACB hit it for yas, I'm just trying to rest and get some strength back.....every movement just zaps my energy like a lightning bolt.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on December 21, 2007, 05:50:48 pm
Good to hear from ya Mar!!!  We're thinkin about ya!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on January 17, 2008, 03:14:27 pm
This guy?
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2007/11/12/w3a.jpg)
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2007/11/12/w2a.jpg)
Wow.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/14/wtree114.xml
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on January 17, 2008, 03:18:53 pm
 :-o
<<shudder>>
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on January 17, 2008, 03:20:00 pm
Curable, believe it or not.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on January 17, 2008, 03:21:55 pm
Yeah, just read the article.  Unbelievable!  You gotta feel for the guy, and hope that the doctors are able to help. 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on January 17, 2008, 03:38:27 pm
Yikes. And caused by HPV, for which there is now a cheap and effective vaccine available in the US. And to think, a gaggle of social conservatives almost kept it off the market for fear it would encourage sexual activity in women and girls. (Potential threadjack, I know. I'm not really sorry about this one.)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: shoreline99 on January 17, 2008, 03:40:20 pm
wow. nasty, but strangely interesting...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on January 17, 2008, 04:52:25 pm
wow.

showed mom and got the typical answer when she found out it had to do with HPV....

"Sodom and Gomorrah. live right, you're treated right. live wrongly and bad things happen..."

guess she figured he slept around and that was his punishment.
my mom's mentality is.. well, different.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on January 30, 2008, 12:37:37 pm
Verizon to "Open Up" Network.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/WillVerizonMoveHelpConsumers.aspx

Will Verizon's move help consumers?

Gadget lovers will get more choices from an open network, and competitors will feel pressure to innovate. But the jury's out on whether you'll save money on your phone -- and service may be more expensive.

Verizon Wireless' decision to open up its network likely will mean more choices for gadget shoppers.

In many parts of the world, buying a cell phone involves a trip to an electronics store where consumers can pick whatever phone they want. Then they figure out which service provider they'd like to use.

Not so in the United States, where cell-phone companies exercise an iron grip on which phones are offered in the marketplace. Consumers first have to pick a cell-phone carrier and then buy a phone -- at heavily subsidized prices -- from the carrier. That has limited both the array of phones available in the U.S. and the features on those phones.

In recent months, a growing chorus of players -- consumers, regulators and big companies striving to break into mobile communications -- have sought to break down the existing system.

Google (GOOG, news, msgs) has led the way, unveiling an alliance of cell-phone companies, tech companies and handset makers this month to make new software available free of charge to power mobile phones. Google also pressured regulators to join the crusade.

Not all of the details are yet clear, but Verizon's (VZ, news, msgs) move likely will mark a turning point in the long push to open the U.S. wireless industry.

What does Verizon's announcement mean for cell-phone users?

Consumers will be able to buy cell phones and other mobile devices sold by companies other than Verizon and use them on Verizon's network. It also means consumers will be able to get special cell-phone features and applications not offered by Verizon.

When will this go into effect?

The changes should go into effect in mid-2008.

How much will it cost to buy a phone from an electronics store rather than a carrier?
Verizon isn't offering any estimates, but because Verizon now subsidizes the cost of the phones it sells, consumers buying elsewhere may pay a lot more. The cost is likely to range dramatically, from inexpensive phones for less than $50 to top-of-the-line multimedia phones for $500.

Will I be able to use an old cell phone from another carrier like AT&T on Verizon's network?

Not necessarily. U.S. cell-phone carriers each operate on one of two different technical standards. Verizon and Sprint Nextel (S, news, msgs) use CDMA technology, while AT&T (T, news, msgs) uses GSM, the standard used in most of the world. Phones built to run on CDMA can't operate on GSM and vice versa, so an old AT&T phone, for instance, couldn't be used on Verizon's network. But it is possible that an old Sprint phone could work on Verizon's network.

Will I be able to buy the iPhone and use it on Verizon's network?

Not in its current form. The iPhone runs on a GSM network; Verizon uses CDMA technology. Unless Apple (AAPL, news, msgs) comes up with a new CDMA phone, iPhone users will be out of luck.

Will the new plan mean that I can use my Verizon phone in more places overseas?

Not unless more manufacturers introduce handsets with chips that run on GSM technology, which is used in many nations outside the United States, as well as CDMA technology, which Verizon uses. Some handset makers are starting to make these dual-mode phones, but they are still fairly rare.

Will Verizon's cell-phone plans cost as much if I'm using a phone I bought elsewhere?

Verizon is staying mum on pricing, but some analysts expect the company to charge more.

Verizon's announcement talks about allowing outside "applications" on phones using the Verizon network. What does that mean?
Verizon decides which software applications, such as gaming and music services, it will allow on phones using its network. That has meant some applications designed by independent software developers haven't been available on a Verizon cell phone. Verizon's announcement changes that. Now any application that meets a new set of technical standards will be allowed on cell phones using Verizon's network.

What kinds of applications could become available?

Depending on how much leeway Verizon decides to give developers in drafting its standards, consumers could use Verizon's network to access a greater number of mobile video and music services, electronic books, payment and banking services, and location-based services that give the user information specific to where they are. Developers could charge for their services or offer them free with advertising.

Verizon mentioned home appliances in its announcement. What are they talking about?

Verizon says its new policy will allow for unlimited innovation in linking devices and software to its network. They cite examples such as a digital camera being linked to a wireless network so that images could be uploaded to a Web page immediately.

Do other U.S. carriers have the same approach?

No. Other large cell-phone operators in the United States continue to sell select devices with approved features through their own retail outlets (and occasionally through a few partners).

Are there drawbacks to using the outside devices or hardware?

Verizon's customer service won't support the new features. That means consumers will need to troubleshoot with the makers of individual devices or software.

Verizon talks about devices that meet "minimum technical standards." How stringent are those standards likely to be, and will most current devices make the grade?

Verizon insists its standards aren't overly strict and says its goal is simply to be sure that no new applications or hardware will introduce bugs that could affect other customers.

Does Verizon intend to go the other way, too, and unlock phones that you buy from them to make them available to work on other networks?
Customers can already take phones they buy at Verizon and activate them on Sprint, which uses the same CDMA technology, though certain features may not be supported by Sprint.



Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on January 30, 2008, 12:45:14 pm
I will be very curious to see how this plays out.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on January 30, 2008, 01:04:21 pm
That article is misleading on at least one point. Dualmode phones are here and have been for two years or more.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on January 30, 2008, 02:24:56 pm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22910820/?GT1=10755

Pot vending machines take root in Los Angeles
Machines distribute the drug to people with cards authorizing use

LOS ANGELES - The city that popularized the fast food drive-thru has a new innovation: 24-hour medical marijuana vending machines.

Patients suffering from chronic pain, loss of appetite and other ailments that marijuana is said to alleviate can get their pot with a dose of convenience at the Herbal Nutrition Center, where a large machine will dole out the drug around the clock.

"Convenient access, lower prices, safety, anonymity," inventor and owner Vincent Mehdizadeh said, extolling the benefits of the machine.

But federal drug agents say the invention may need unplugging.

"Somebody owns (it), it's on a property and somebody fills it," said DEA Special Agent Jose Martinez. "Once we find out where it's at, we'll look into it and see if they're violating laws."

At least three dispensaries in the city, including two belonging to Mehdizadeh, have installed vending machines to distribute the drug to people who carry cards authorizing marijuana use.

Mehdizadeh said he spent seven months to develop and patent the black, armored box, which he calls the "PVM," or prescription vending machine.

Convenience and privacy
A sliding fence protects the tinted windows of his dispensary, barely distinguishing it from a busy thoroughfare of strip malls, automobile dealers and furniture shops. A box resembling a large refrigerator stands inside the nearly empty shop, near a few shelves stocked with vitamins and herbs.

A guard in a black T-shirt emblazoned with the word "Security" on the front stands at the door. A poster of Bob Marley decorates a back room.

The computerized machine requires fingerprint identification and a prepaid card with a magnetic stripe. Once the card and fingerprint are verified, a bright green envelope with the pot drops down a slot.

Mehdizadeh says any user approved for medical marijuana and registered in a computer database at his dispensaries can pre-purchase the drug and then use the machine to pick up.

The process provides convenience and privacy for users who may otherwise feel uncomfortable about buying marijuana, Mehdizadeh said.

At the Timothy Leary Medical Dispensary in the San Fernando Valley, the vending machine is accessible only during business hours. An employee there said the machine was introduced about five months ago, and provides speedy service.

"It helps a lot of patients who are in a lot of pain and don't want to wait around to get help," Robert Schwartz said. "It's been working out great."

Mehdizadeh said he sought the advice of doctors, and decided to limit the amount of marijuana per user to an ounce per week. Each purchase from the machine yields 1/8th or 2/8th of an ounce. By eliminating a vendor behind the counter, he said, the machine offers users lower drug prices. The 1/8th ounce packet would cost about $40 — $20 lower than the average price at other dispensaries.

'It's to medicate'
A spokesman for a marijuana advocacy group said the machine also benefits dispensary owners.

"It limits the number of workers in the store in the event of a raid, and it'll make it harder for theft," said Nathan Sands, of The Compassionate Coalition.

Marijuana use is illegal under federal law, which does not recognize the medical marijuana laws in California and 11 other states.

The Drug Enforcement Agency and other federal agencies have been actively shutting down major medical marijuana dispensaries throughout the state over the last two years and charging their operators with felony distribution charges.

Mehdizadeh said the Herbal Nutrition Center was the target of a federal raid in December. He said no arrests were made and no charges have been filed against him.

Kris Hermes, a spokesman for advocacy group Americans for Safe Access, said the machine might benefit those who already know how much and what strain of marijuana they're looking for. But he said others will want to see and smell the drug before they buy it.

A man who said he has been authorized to use medical marijuana as part of his anger management therapy said the vending machine's security measures would at least protect against illicit use of the drug.

"You have kids that want to get high and that's not what marijuana is for," Robert Miko said. "It's to medicate."


Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on January 30, 2008, 02:31:18 pm
 Its going to suck when you put your money in the machine and the baggie gets hung up inside like this... :lol:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on January 30, 2008, 02:35:31 pm
HAHA!  I saw this on CNN the other day...pipe dreams will one day bring it to MS!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on January 30, 2008, 02:52:52 pm
i just finished the article about this over on msn.com...
guess you beat me to posting it, antelope :)

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"Convenient access, lower prices, safety, anonymity,"


heh, what's next?

liquor fountains?
 ;)

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on January 30, 2008, 03:10:51 pm
Liquor fountains, hmmmmmmmm.  I'm gonna have to put some thougt into what my "fountain of choice" would be.   :-D 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on January 30, 2008, 03:19:27 pm
Woodford Reserve.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on January 31, 2008, 02:12:33 am
Hopefully they'll be side by side one day, Maryjane bags in the coin-op and liquor fountains (although I much prefer brewski).


Add a headphone that hooks up to my home system and tell my wife I ain't coming home tonight. :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Wolfmansbrother on January 31, 2008, 02:23:31 am
"A man who said he has been authorized to use medical marijuana as part of his anger management therapy said the vending machine's security measures would at least protect against illicit use of the drug."


hey, I laughed.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on February 04, 2008, 05:56:45 pm
United Airlines is going to charge for a "second bag" effective this May.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22992054/?GT1=10856
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on February 04, 2008, 06:03:54 pm
Woodford Reserve.


mmhmm.
good call.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: mattstick on February 04, 2008, 06:04:34 pm
United Airlines is going to charge for a "second bag" effective this May.

[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22992054/?GT1=10856[/url]



Seems entirely reasonable, and will really only affect old rich ladies with too many shoes.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on February 04, 2008, 06:06:52 pm
United Airlines is going to charge for a "second bag" effective this May.

[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22992054/?GT1=10856[/url]



Seems entirely reasonable, and will really only affect old rich ladies with too many shoes.



Oh no, I totally agree.  I try not to carry more than my backpack.  But you know this will probably have some people upset.   
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sophist on February 04, 2008, 06:08:32 pm
Woodford Reserve.

Yep.  This is the America I dream about. 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on February 04, 2008, 06:10:09 pm
United Airlines is going to charge for a "second bag" effective this May.

[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22992054/?GT1=10856[/url]



Seems entirely reasonable, and will really only affect old rich ladies with too many shoes.



i think women in general.
but whatever, i dont' fly enough to care atm.

it's usually one bag and a carry on for me.
and i say that b/c the only times i've flown i've stayed over 5 days.

if i was only going for a day or two?
one carry on would be fine...

Woodford Reserve.


Yep.  This is the America I dream about. 



one day. maybe i'll open my own bar with one of these :)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sophist on February 04, 2008, 06:17:12 pm
Woodford Reserve.

Yep.  This is the America I dream about. 


one day. maybe i'll open my own bar with one of these :)


I would be your best patron if that every occurred. 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on February 04, 2008, 06:19:42 pm
Woodford Reserve.

Yep.  This is the America I dream about. 


one day. maybe i'll open my own bar with one of these :)


I would be your best patron if that every occurred. 


so what do you say... $15 all you can drink(woodford) from 9p-12a, thursday nights?!?!?   :wink:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on February 04, 2008, 06:24:30 pm
You would lose out with this crowd.   :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sophist on February 04, 2008, 06:27:57 pm
Woodford Reserve.

Yep.  This is the America I dream about. 


one day. maybe i'll open my own bar with one of these :)



I would be your best patron if that every occurred. 


so what do you say... $15 all you can drink(woodford) from 9p-12a, thursday nights?!?!?   :wink:

::books one way flight::
::empties bank account::
 :wink:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on February 04, 2008, 06:29:28 pm
You would lose out with this crowd.   :-D


i'll take that chance just to see who would earn the crown to wear that evening  :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on February 04, 2008, 10:39:24 pm
I'd show up for that gig.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on February 05, 2008, 11:31:42 am
United Airlines is going to charge for a "second bag" effective this May.

[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22992054/?GT1=10856[/url]



Seems entirely reasonable, and will really only affect old rich ladies with too many shoes.


Ever since the rolling totes came into vogue 10 15 years ago, in-cabin space has become more and more cramped with people trying to avoid chacking bags all together.

I'd show up for that gig.



Shit yeah.

And how's about a "Make your own Manhattan" station, Mandi?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on February 05, 2008, 11:34:28 am
United Airlines is going to charge for a "second bag" effective this May.

[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22992054/?GT1=10856[/url]



Seems entirely reasonable, and will really only affect old rich ladies with too many shoes.


Ever since the rolling totes came into vogue 10 15 years ago, in-cabin space has become more and more cramped with people trying to avoid chacking bags all together.

I'd show up for that gig.



Shit yeah.

And how's about a "Make your own Manhattan" station, Mandi?



There are a couple places around here that already have "Make your own Bloodies and Mimosas" for brunch.  All you can drink!  Good stuff.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on February 05, 2008, 11:36:40 am
Every party I've ever thrown or been at with "make your own cocktail" setups has turned into a screaming, rubber-kneed brawl. Good stuff indeed.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on February 05, 2008, 12:47:27 pm
When I was 21 I lived with my buddy in an apartment across the street from the local gay bar.  Every wednesday they had a $5 cover charge and a keg of Pabst set up in the corner.  Along with the all you could drink Pabst, there was free pool and darts.  We must have been so obviously strait because we got a lot of songs dedicated to us as the guys from out of town at first.  What respectable 21 yo could resist the pull of $5 all you could drink Pabst, no need to even tip the bartender, and free pool.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on February 05, 2008, 02:50:24 pm
When I was 21 I lived with my buddy in an apartment across the street from the local gay bar.

How very convenient for you and your 'buddy'. ;)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: slslbs on February 05, 2008, 02:59:15 pm
not that there's anything wrong with it
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on February 05, 2008, 03:33:43 pm
And how's about a "Make your own Manhattan" station, Mandi?


im' all about it...


all you can drink woodford and a make your own manhattan spot....
i'd call it paug nite...

anything else ya'll think i should add?
75 cent miller lite pitchers?!?!

damn between the woodford and miller, i'd never leave that place either...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: tehdead on February 05, 2008, 08:01:58 pm
You guys get the new Crown Cask No 16? Its soo delicious, finished in Cognac oak cast, if you got 100 bucks lying around GET IT!. One of many perks working at a Liquor store
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on February 08, 2008, 02:30:51 pm
i am knocking on the door to the bar as we type/read.  please let me in.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on February 08, 2008, 03:27:53 pm
i am knocking on the door to the bar as we type/read.  please let me in.


important people need to come around back ;)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: shoreline99 on February 08, 2008, 03:32:29 pm
i am knocking on the door to the bar as we type/read.  please let me in.


important people need to come around back ;)


 :-o
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on February 08, 2008, 03:59:11 pm
i am knocking on the door to the bar as we type/read.  please let me in.


important people need to come around back ;)


 :-o

I thought the same thing but I was gonna let her off the hook...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on February 08, 2008, 04:04:00 pm
srsly guys.... seen the gutter much lately?!?!?


all i meant was that there is a special door in the back of the building for important people..
with a special knock and everything... you jsut have to know how to tap just right.  8-)

sheesh  :roll: :wink:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on February 08, 2008, 07:40:53 pm
you jsut have to know how to tap just right.  8-)

sheesh  :roll: :wink:


well, ain't that the trick all the time?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on February 08, 2008, 07:43:05 pm
works for me!
 :-D




Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: kellerb on February 08, 2008, 07:53:14 pm
srsly guys.... seen the gutter much lately?!?!?


all i meant was that there is a special door in the back of the building for important people..
with a special knock and everything... you jsut have to know how to tap just right.  8-)

sheesh  :roll: :wink:

heh
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on February 08, 2008, 08:06:14 pm
funny.

that really does hang in the bar i work at :)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on February 11, 2008, 11:46:51 am
http://www.jambase.com/Articles/Story.aspx?StoryID=12878

Quote
On July 16, Billy Joel will be the last artist to perform at New York's Shea Stadium. Billed as "The Last Play at Shea, From the Beatles to Billy," the show will arrive during the New York Mets' final season at Shea as they prepare to move into their new stadium at Citi Field in 2009.

The historic show will make Joel the first artist in history to perform at all four of New York City's major sporting venues; Shea Stadium, Yankee Stadium, Giants Stadium, and Madison Square Garden, where Joel sold out a record-breaking 12 consecutive shows in 2006.

"Shea Stadium is one of the most hallowed venues in rock 'n' roll history and it's an honor to help throw Shea the ultimate concert farewell party," said Joel, in a prepared statement. "As a sports fan and a music lover, I will always have a place for Shea Stadium in my heart. I thank the Mets for giving me and my fans a chance to rock Shea Stadium one last time for the ages."

Tickets go on sale February 16 through Ticketmaster.

Complete Billy Joel tour dates available here.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on February 12, 2008, 12:48:32 pm
 :-o :-o

My wife has lots of patients who work in corrections in upstate NY, and it's a very insular, corrupt system. But this below is just unbelievable.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/11/prison.boss/index.html?iref=mpstoryview (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/11/prison.boss/index.html?iref=mpstoryview)

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TALAHASSEE, Florida (CNN) -- Softball, drunken orgies and a prison system run like the mafia. That's what Florida's former prison secretary says he inherited when he took over one of the nation's largest prison systems two years ago.

In fact, on his first day on the job, James McDonough says he walked into his office -- the same one his predecessor used -- and there was crime scene tape preventing anyone from entering.

"That was an indication we had a problem in the department," McDonough told CNN in an exclusive interview before he stepped down last Thursday.

McDonough revealed a startling list of alleged abuses and crimes going on inside Florida's prisons:

• Top prison officials admitting to kickbacks;

• Guards importing and selling steroids in an effort to give them an edge on the softball field;

• Taxpayer funds to pay for booze and women;

• Guards who punished other guards who threatened to report them.

"Corruption had gone to an extreme," McDonough said, saying it all began at the top. "They seemed to be drunk half the time and had orgies the other half, when they weren't taking money and beating each other up." 

He added, "Women were treated like chattel in this department."

McDonough described a bizarre prison culture among those that ran the system -- one that he says seemed obsessed with inter-department softball games and the orgies after games.

"I cannot explain how big an obsession softball had become," he said. "People were promoted on the spot after a softball game at the drunken party to high positions in the department because they were able to hit a softball out of the park a couple times."

"The connection between the softball and the parties and the corruption and the beatings was greatly intertwined."

The parties and orgies were often carried out at a waterfront house built on prison grounds for a former warden with taxpayer dollars, McDonough said. The house was complete with a bar, pool table and hot tub. 

McDonough is a former Army colonel who commanded troops in Vietnam and Africa. He served as Florida's drug czar before taking on the job as the head of Florida's prison system, which oversees 90,000 inmates.

He left his post last Thursday as secretary of Florida's Department of Corrections because, he says, he feels he has cleaned up the corruption. It's time, he said, "to turn this over to law and order people that have made this their life's goal."

A Brooklyn, New York, native, McDonough says he witnessed the way the mafia worked in his youth and it provided him a keen insight into how his prison predecessor, James Crosby, operated.

"It reminded me of the petty mafia I saw on the streets of Brooklyn when I was growing up in the late 1950s, early 1960s -- petty, small-minded, thugish, violent, dangerous, outside the law, and completely intolerable for a society such as ours in the United States of America," he said.

Crosby would later plead guilty to bribery charges in relation to kickbacks from a prison vendor. He's now locked up in a federal prison. He refused CNN's request for an interview for this report.

"He's serving time in a federal prison. I hope he reforms and gets out and prospers," McDonough said.

He added, "When you have a rotten guy at the top, or gal at the top, it can be very invasive, and it's a cancer that needs to be excised."

And getting rid of this "cancer" is exactly what McDonough says he did. McDonough fired 90 top prison officials -- wardens, supervisors, colonels and majors -- claiming they were corrupt or, at the very least, not to be trusted. He demoted 280 others.

Criminal charges were filed against more than 40 others, and most were convicted. Among those arrested were seven officers accused of beating inmates, including five accused of forcing a prisoner to drink toilet water. All have pleaded not guilty.

Tina Hayes, the director of the prison's department initiatives who has worked in the prison system for 28 years, said the atmosphere before McDonough arrived was "a little tense" with workers "always on edge."

She said employees who didn't attend softball games or play on the teams were "isolated" and "pushed aside."

"I used to tell staff day in and day out: Keep your head high; do what's right; you know what morally is right; you've got some ethics; don't bow down to it," Hayes told CNN.

McDonough, she said, brought "standards back into the department."

"People can speak out now without being afraid to say what they need to say."



McDonough says the majority of the prison system's 28,000 employees were honest, hard-working people who weren't corrupt at all. But he says many of the top prison officials weren't and he believes he has weeded out "an organized vein of corruption."

"They were like frat boys out of control."

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on February 15, 2008, 06:05:12 pm
The car that runs under water!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23183588

Swiss create Bond-like underwater car
‘sQuba’ concept set to make a splash at Geneva Auto Show

(http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/02/squba1.jpg)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on February 20, 2008, 11:27:17 am
Worlds Largest music collection for sale on ebay for 3 Mil!

http://www.jambase.com/Articles/Story.aspx?StoryID=12990

The World's Greatest Music Collection
3 Million Records, 300,000 CDs, 6 million+ Song Titles
The Most Viewed and Watched Listing Ever on eBay!


69 year-old Paul Mawhinney may have the largest record collection in the world and he's ready to sell! From Thomas Edison to American Idol, this is the complete history of the music that shaped and defined five generations. 3 million records and 300,000 CDs containing more than 6 million song titles. It's the undisputed largest collection of recorded music in the world. About half of the recordings are new and never played, and every genre of 20th century music is represented. There are countless rare recordings worth hundreds, or even thousands of dollars each on the collectibles market. Organized and cataloged, the collection is meticulously maintained and housed in a climate-controlled warehouse. The estimated value of this amazing collection is more than $50 million.

Every recording in the collection was purchased by Mawhinney over the past fifty years and represents a lifetime of work and his desire to see the music preserved for future generations. Advancing age and health concerns are forcing the owner to sell.

Mawhinney is selling his collection whole, but among the gems are: an unreleased and untitled Rolling Stones album of early singles valued somewhere between $5,000 and $10,000, 15 copies of Elvis' Christmas Album from 1957 and a copy of Phil Spector's A Christmas Gift for You. The starting bid on eBay is $3 million. Mawhinney wants to sell by March 1 and is hoping that the generous buyer will purchase the collection with the intentions on donating it to a library or museum.


For complete details on the collection and the seller, go to www.TheGreatestMusicCollection.com.
 
[Published on: 2/19/08]
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: jephrey on February 20, 2008, 10:49:56 pm
dzam....
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: slslbs on February 21, 2008, 05:42:27 pm
I could've used 15 copies of Elvis Christmas album a few months ago
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on March 10, 2008, 03:09:20 pm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23561606

N.Y. governor reportedly in prostitution ring

N.Y. Times says he told advisers; statement expected shortly

NEW YORK - Gov. Eliot Spitzer has told senior advisers that he had been involved in a prostitution ring, the New York Times reported Monday.

Spitzer was scheduled to make an announcement Monday afternoon. Spitzer officials wouldn't immediately comment on the story.

Spitzer is a first-term Democrat and former state attorney general. He is married with three children.

Details about the prostitution ring were not immediately clear.

But last week, federal prosecutors in Manhattan filed conspiracy charges against four people accusing them of running a prostitution ring that charged wealthy clients in Europe and the U.S. thousands of dollars for prostitutes.

The Web site of the Emperors Club VIP displays photographs of the prostitutes' bodies, with their faces hidden, along with hourly rates depending on whether the prostitutes were rated with one diamond, the lowest ranking, or seven diamonds, the highest. The most highly ranked prostitutes cost $5,500 an hour, prosecutors said.

The Times reported that a person with knowledge of Spitzer's role believes the governor is one of the men identified as clients in court papers.

The case is being handled by prosecutors in the Public Corruption unit of U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia's office. Garcia spokeswoman Yusill Scribner said the office had no comment.

Spitzer has built his political legacy on rooting out corruption, including several headline-making battles with Wall Street while serving as attorney general. He stormed into the governor's office in 2006 with a historic share of the vote, vowing to continue his no-nonsense approach to fixing one of the nation's worst governments.

Time magazine had named him "Crusader of the Year" when he was attorney general and the tabloids proclaimed him "Eliot Ness."

But his stint as governor has been marred by several problems, including an unpopular plan to grant driver's licenses to illegal immigrants and a plot by his aides to smear Spitzer's main Republican nemesis.

Spitzer had been expected to testify to the state Public Integrity Commission he had created to answer for his role in the scandal, in which his aides are accused of misusing state police to compile travel records to embarrass Senate Republican leader Joseph Bruno.

Spitzer had served two terms as attorney general where he pursued criminal and civil cases and cracked down on misconduct and conflicts of interests on Wall Street and in corporate America. He had previously been a prosecutor in the Manhattan District Attorney's Office, handling organized crime and white-collar crime cases.

His cases as state attorney general included a few criminal prosecutions of prostitution rings and into tourism involving prostitutes.

In 2004, he was part of an investigation of an escort service in New York City that resulted in the arrest of 18 people on charges of promoting prostitution and related charges.



Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on March 10, 2008, 03:12:48 pm
Ever since a 2002 (or 2003?) New yorker article on him, I've wondered if he was too good to be true...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: mattstick on March 24, 2008, 01:35:16 pm
Oregon man's property ransacked after Craigslist hoax

JACKSONVILLE, Ore. -- A pair of hoax ads on Craigslist cost an Oregon man much of what he owned.
   
The ads popped up Saturday afternoon, saying the owner of a Jacksonville home was forced to leave the area suddenly and his belongings, including a horse, were free for the taking, said Jackson County sheriff's Detective Sgt. Colin Fagan.

But Robert Salisbury had no plans to leave. The independent contractor was at Emigrant Lake when he got a call from a woman who had stopped by his house to claim his horse.

On his way home he stopped a truck loaded down with his work ladders, lawn mower and weed eater.

"I informed them I was the owner, but they refused to give the stuff back," Salisbury said. "They showed me the Craigslist printout and told me they had the right to do what they did."

The driver sped away after rebuking Salisbury. On his way home he spotted other cars filled with his belongings.

Once home he was greeted by close to 30 people rummaging through his barn and front porch.

The trespassers, armed with printouts of the ad, tried to brush him off. "They honestly thought that because it appeared on the Internet it was true," Salisbury said. "It boggles the mind."

Jacksonville police and Jackson County sheriff's deputies arrived but by then several cars packed with Salisbury's property had fled.

He turned some license plate numbers over to police.

Michelle Easley had seen the ad that claimed Salisbury's horse had been declared abandoned by the sheriff's department and was free to a good home.

"I can't stand to see a horse suffer so I drove out there and got her," Easley said. "The horse didn't look abandoned. She is in good shape for being 32 years old."

But it looked odd, so she left a note on Salisbury's door explaining the ad. She then decided to call to make sure the ad was legitimate when the second similar ad appeared.

"I feel bad because I was a part of it," Easley said. "It felt right to call the police."

Fagan praised Easley's honestly but said prosecution was likely for anybody caught with Salisbury's property.

Items can be returned with no questions asked, Fagan said.

Detectives have contacted Craigslist's legal team to try to trace the ad.

Meanwhile, Salisbury could not even relax on his porch swing.

Someone took it.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on March 24, 2008, 01:46:44 pm
Wow.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s69/santino037/bummer.jpg)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on April 02, 2008, 01:33:56 pm
...Geocaching?


Anyone into it?... tried it?...

I just bought a Garmin Etrex Legend handheld GPS for hiking and to try geocaching.

Sounds like a good way to get out and discover some cool places we didn't know about.  Seems people like to hide these things in some interesting places.  Historical, backwoods scenic spots, waterfalls , overlooks, ruins, etc.

[url]http://www.geocaching.com[/url]



Anyone know if you can load maps of trails onto a nuvi?  Or do you need one of the off-road specific GPS's?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on April 02, 2008, 02:24:05 pm
Is the Nuvi made by Garmin? If it is and it has a USB port then I dont see why not. With that being said, I paid around 80 bucks for the Garmin "mapsource" topo software...steep but worth every penny when your trying to find your way around in the woods.
http://www.thegpsstore.com/Garmin-MapSource-Software-C36.aspx?gclid=CNrHlYKAvZICFQQIFQodiEZ7bw
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 02, 2008, 02:29:40 pm
(http://www.howmanyfiveyearoldscouldyoutakeinafight.com/bb/img/fight5/5year_header.png)

Take the quiz and find out: http://www.howmanyfiveyearoldscouldyoutakeinafight.com

It says I could handle 24 but I think that's on the low side.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on April 02, 2008, 02:34:28 pm
Awesome.
They tell me I could take 25 five year olds.

I say we  make this happen and see how right they are :lol:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on April 02, 2008, 02:37:03 pm
In related news...
WAYCROSS, Ga. — A group of children ages 8 to 10 apparently were mad at their teacher because she had scolded one of them for standing on a chair, authorities say.

That led the third-graders, as many as nine boys and girls, to plot an attack on the teacher at Center Elementary School in south Georgia.

Police Chief Tony Tanner said the students apparently planned to knock the teacher unconscious with a glass paperweight, bind her with handcuffs and duct tape and then stab her with a broken steak knife.

-I wonder how she would have done in the fight
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 02, 2008, 02:40:41 pm
Quote
Md. Boy, 12, Kills Man Attacking Mother
Officials Undecided On Filing Charges

By Avis Thomas-Lester and Hamil R. Harris
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, April 2, 2008; A01

The 12-year-old boy had finished his homework and was playing a video game when he heard his mother cry out. Rushing to her aid, he found her on the kitchen floor, straddled by a fellow resident of their Prince George's County boarding house, the man's hands wrapped tightly around her neck, the boy said yesterday.

"I kept saying, 'Stop! Stop! Stop!' " the boy said, describing the events of Monday night. "But he just ignored me. He didn't stop. He just kept hurting her."

The boy said he grabbed a knife and swung, slashing 64-year-old Salomon Noubissie across the neck and opening an artery. Noubissie was fatally wounded.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/01/AR2008040101090_pf.html
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on April 02, 2008, 02:41:31 pm
In related news...
WAYCROSS, Ga. — A group of children ages 8 to 10 apparently were mad at their teacher because she had scolded one of them for standing on a chair, authorities say.

That led the third-graders, as many as nine boys and girls, to plot an attack on the teacher at Center Elementary School in south Georgia.

Police Chief Tony Tanner said the students apparently planned to knock the teacher unconscious with a glass paperweight, bind her with handcuffs and duct tape and then stab her with a broken steak knife.

-I wonder how she would have done in the fight


 :-o  Such Violence.  wow.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on April 02, 2008, 02:51:01 pm
([url]http://www.howmanyfiveyearoldscouldyoutakeinafight.com/bb/img/fight5/5year_header.png[/url])

Take the quiz and find out: [url]http://www.howmanyfiveyearoldscouldyoutakeinafight.com[/url]

It says I could handle 24 but I think that's on the low side.



It says I could take 27 of the little buggers...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on April 11, 2008, 08:45:27 am
Says i could only take 15.  Looks like I'm gonna have to bone up on some martial arts and disregard my moral compass a bit.



 :oops:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: redrum on April 11, 2008, 10:31:11 am
You could take on 26 five year old kids in a fight.   :evil:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: shoreline99 on April 11, 2008, 03:05:13 pm
it says i could take 28 five year olds. must be the child rearing experience...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: ytowndan on April 11, 2008, 03:17:37 pm
They tell me I can take 27...  :samurai:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: slslbs on April 11, 2008, 03:17:48 pm
I could only do 12. Knew there was a reason that I don't have kids

Quote
To hell with morality, I'd be too busy pile-driving, crane-kicking, and bare-knuckle bashing them all the way back to kintergarten

 :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: cleech74 on April 12, 2008, 03:35:04 am
14.  I can't even imagine 14 5yr olds coming at me pissed off.  Unless I just killed Chuck E Cheese.  That would be warrented.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on April 28, 2008, 11:32:16 am
Part of the description of Green Apple fest in San Fran: Very Strange Line up.  Fishman and Tommy Lee!!!

Quote
At this point I noticed someone backstage standing next to Mickey Hart whose name was not on the bill. In an unannounced appearance, Bob Weir joined Hart and his Mass Drum, taking the stage with his former bandmate for a set opening "Blackbird." Hart is so bad ass that he didn't need a whole kit, just two drums and he was ready to rock. After fine- tuning their instruments, the pair were joined by Kaufmann and Kang for Dead staples "Friend of the Devil" and "Peggy-O." In another surprise, towards the end of this opening collection of songs, Joan Baez emerged. Afterwards, the friends left the stage and Hart was joined by a collection of drummer that led the crowd through a half hour of tribal drum music. Included in the morphing ensemble onstage was Jon Fishman, Tommy Lee (yes, Tommy Lee of Motley Crue), Bobi Cespedes and the Rhythm Village. The performance ended with a truly extraordinary version of "Not Fade Away" featuring Weir, Hart, Kang, Baez and Lee.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on April 28, 2008, 01:41:27 pm
Part of the description of Green Apple fest in San Fran: Very Strange Line up.  Fishman and Tommy Lee!!!

Quote
At this point I noticed someone backstage standing next to Mickey Hart whose name was not on the bill. In an unannounced appearance, Bob Weir joined Hart and his Mass Drum, taking the stage with his former bandmate for a set opening "Blackbird." Hart is so bad ass that he didn't need a whole kit, just two drums and he was ready to rock. After fine- tuning their instruments, the pair were joined by Kaufmann and Kang for Dead staples "Friend of the Devil" and "Peggy-O." In another surprise, towards the end of this opening collection of songs, Joan Baez emerged. Afterwards, the friends left the stage and Hart was joined by a collection of drummer that led the crowd through a half hour of tribal drum music. Included in the morphing ensemble onstage was Jon Fishman, Tommy Lee (yes, Tommy Lee of Motley Crue), Bobi Cespedes and the Rhythm Village. The performance ended with a truly extraordinary version of "Not Fade Away" featuring Weir, Hart, Kang, Baez and Lee.


my roomie's uncle called us from that show.

mickey hart, tommy lee and fishman all together....

i cant' begin to imagine watching that on stage.


Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 28, 2008, 02:23:41 pm
Part of the description of Green Apple fest in San Fran: Very Strange Line up.  Fishman and Tommy Lee!!!

Quote
At this point I noticed someone backstage standing next to Mickey Hart whose name was not on the bill. In an unannounced appearance, Bob Weir joined Hart and his Mass Drum, taking the stage with his former bandmate for a set opening "Blackbird." Hart is so bad ass that he didn't need a whole kit, just two drums and he was ready to rock. After fine- tuning their instruments, the pair were joined by Kaufmann and Kang for Dead staples "Friend of the Devil" and "Peggy-O." In another surprise, towards the end of this opening collection of songs, Joan Baez emerged. Afterwards, the friends left the stage and Hart was joined by a collection of drummer that led the crowd through a half hour of tribal drum music. Included in the morphing ensemble onstage was Jon Fishman, Tommy Lee (yes, Tommy Lee of Motley Crue), Bobi Cespedes and the Rhythm Village. The performance ended with a truly extraordinary version of "Not Fade Away" featuring Weir, Hart, Kang, Baez and Lee.


my roomie's uncle called us from that show.

mickey hart, tommy lee and fishman all together....

i cant' begin to imagine watching that on stage.





End times, my friends...

End times.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on April 28, 2008, 03:11:57 pm

End times, my friends...

End times.


 :?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 28, 2008, 03:17:23 pm
Tommy Lee + Mickey Hart = the end of the world is nigh...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on April 28, 2008, 03:30:25 pm
Tommy Lee + Mickey Hart = the end of the world is nigh...


ahhhh...thanks, I'm a little slow.  I would have to agree with you though, FWIW.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: thechad on April 29, 2008, 01:21:13 am
I don't even want to think about what would have happened if Phil Collins had been there.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 29, 2008, 05:21:38 am
I don't even want to think about what would have happened if Phil Collins had been there.



(http://www.anatomorphex.com/picts/shatter/FX013_EXPLODING_HEAD.jpg)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on April 29, 2008, 10:00:17 am
E
P
I
C


you couldn't handle that shit on strong acid.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on April 29, 2008, 12:17:33 pm
anyone in VA get any side storms from the tornado's yesterday?!?!

i got a call from one friend this morning about it.
he lives right outside Norfolk...
he's ok, but his house has got a little damage.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 29, 2008, 12:54:18 pm
Nothin in NOVA like they had down south...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on April 29, 2008, 01:12:13 pm
anyone in VA get any side storms from the tornado's yesterday?!?!

i got a call from one friend this morning about it.
he lives right outside Norfolk...
he's ok, but his house has got a little damage.


All good here.  but last weekend one touched down around the Hanover/New Kent line and did a little damage.  these storms have been nuts this past week..
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on May 02, 2008, 11:03:34 am
 :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/daily/june99/lingdies92.htm

Ling-Ling Dies Suddenly
By D'Vera Cohn and Brooke A. Masters
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, December 31, 1992; Page A1

Ling-Ling, the female half of the National Zoo's fuzzy and beloved pair of rare giant pandas, died suddenly yesterday of unknown causes. She was 23, the oldest of her kind living in captivity outside China.

A keeper who went to fetch her for the 3 p.m. feeding discovered Ling-Ling's body in the outdoor yard of the panda compound, the zoo's most-visited attraction. Zoo spokesman Mike Morgan said she apparently had collapsed suddenly, because the dirt where she lay was undisturbed.

Hsing-Hsing, her mate in a long-running saga of failed attempts to produce a surviving cub, was in a separate enclosure at the time. Zoo officials said they do not expect him to grieve because pandas are naturally solitary animals. They do not plan to alter his routine, including 11 a.m. and 3 p.m. feedings.

The black and white animals became the toast of Washington when they arrived at the zoo in 1972, one of the first fruits of President Nixon's peacemaking visit to China. Eight thousand people stood in the rain for a half-hour or longer to watch the pandas when they first went on display, and an estimated 3 million people a year come to see them.

"They didn't do a lot, but {we liked} just to be able to look at them and know they were so rare," said Julia Levinson, of Springfield, who was at the zoo yesterday with her 4-year-old daughter, Katie. "There are going to be a lot of unhappy people when they read the paper."

The news did not take everybody by surprise. Bill Fanelli, of Silver Spring, who visited the zoo yesterday with his family, said a zoo volunteer told him recently, "If you want to see them, get in soon, because they're getting old."

Ling-Ling was considered an elderly panda, but had no recent health problems, Morgan said. Zoo pathologists were performing an autopsy, but results may not be available for several days if laboratory tests on tissue are needed.

No commemoration is planned, but the zoo probably will display cards -- no flowers, please -- in the panda compound, Morgan said.

Ling-Ling, whose name means "darling little girl" in Chinese, weighed 240 pounds and measured slightly less than six feet from head to toe. She quickly was dubbed the extroverted half of the panda pair, which had never met until they arrived -- under armed guard -- as a gift from the people of China.

After the opening ceremony at the zoo, attended by First Lady Pat Nixon, Ling-Ling charmed visitors by batting her paws, rolling over and jumping up and down on her log pile. Zoologists described her as "the rough-and-ready type."

Ling-Ling was five times a mother, but none of her offspring survived more than a few days.

The annual wait for her to produce a cub became something of a Washington ritual: first the measurement of hormone levels, then exultation, then disappointment. All was chronicled by cameras and watched around the clock by scores of volunteers brought in at the first sign of possible pregnancy.

Zoo officials first attempted to mate the pair in 1976, then tried artificial insemination and finally imported a male panda from London to do what Hsing-Hsing apparently could not. But Ling-Ling's encounter with the English outsider degenerated into a fight, and the project was abandoned.

After a rocky courtship in which he seemed inept and she seemed indifferent, Ling-Ling and Hsing-Hsing began mating in 1983. Ling-Ling had not given birth since 1989 and did not go into heat this year. Increasingly in her later years, she frolicked less and slept more.

Ling-Ling's last complete medical checkup was in 1989, a procedure not repeated since then because it requires anesthesia that can be dangerous to elderly animals, Morgan said. Her urine was tested daily for infection, and she had regular visits from a veterinarian, he said.

"It was a complete surprise," he said. "She had been active and eating well.

"Our most important thing is to determine the cause of death. If it's something we did wrong, we want to know."

Ling-Ling had a brush with death in 1983 when she developed a severe kidney infection and anemia. She was treated successfully with antibiotics.

Scientists at the Smithsonian's Museum of Natural History would like to study Ling-Ling's body parts for a research project, but zoo officials have not decided what to do with her body, Morgan said.

Giant pandas are an endangered species: There are believed to be only about 1,000 pandas in the wild and about 95 in zoos. In the wild, they rarely live beyond their teens, zoo officials said, but reportedly have lived into their twenties in Chinese zoos.

Before the arrival of Ling-Ling and Hsing-Hsing, it had been nearly two decades since a U.S. zoo had a panda.

As for a new mate for Hsing-Hsing, who is a year younger than Ling-Ling, "we would love to have pandas here," Morgan said. "We don't know what will happen. . . . It's not the sort of thing one asks the Chinese government for."

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on May 02, 2008, 12:02:54 pm
 :cry:
Wow. That sucks.
I've probably seen them dozens of times over the years...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on May 02, 2008, 12:17:48 pm
:cry:
Wow. That sucks.
I've probably seen them dozens of times over the years...


Yup, me too.  Really sucks.   :|
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on May 05, 2008, 01:39:52 pm
wtf is this noise?

http://www.gamucci.com/gamucci/index.html

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on May 05, 2008, 02:15:53 pm
wtf is this noise?

[url]http://www.gamucci.com/gamucci/index.html[/url]





Join the Revolution today!!!!   :roll:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: mattstick on May 05, 2008, 02:16:50 pm

Do they make one in the shape of a bong?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on May 05, 2008, 02:37:31 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354126,00.html



Quote
NORFOLK, Va. —  People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is seeking the suspension of Eight Belles' jockey after the filly had to be euthanized following her second-place finish in the Kentucky Derby on Saturday.

Gabriel Saez was riding Eight Belles when she broke both front ankles while galloping out a quarter of a mile past the wire. She was euthanized on the track.

PETA faxed a letter Sunday to Kentucky's racing authority claiming the filly was "doubtlessly injured before the finish" and asked that Saez be suspended while Eight Belles' death is investigated.

"What we really want to know, did he feel anything along the way?" PETA spokeswoman Kathy Guillermo said. "If he didn't then we can probably blame the fact that they're allowed to whip the horses mercilessly."

Eight Belles trainer Larry Jones said the filly was clearly happy when she crossed the finish line.

"I don't know how in the heck they can even come close to saying that," Jones told The Associated Press on Sunday. "She has her ears up, clearly galloping out."

Guillermo said if Saez is found at fault, the group wants the second- place prize of $400,000 won by Eight Belles to be revoked.
Related

    *


Saez, a 20-year-old Panama native, was riding in his first Kentucky Derby. He frequently rides for Jones.

A call to the jockeys' room at Delaware Park, where Saez raced on Sunday, went unanswered.

Eight Belles, the first filly since 1999 to run in the Derby, appeared fine until collapsing while galloping out after the finish.

The letter to the Kentucky Horse Racing Authority also sought a ban on whipping, limits on races and the age of racehorses, and a move to softer, artificial surfaces for all courses.



Quote
Why does vegan cheese taste bad?
It hasn't been tested on mice.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on May 05, 2008, 02:47:36 pm
hilary jinxed'im...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on May 05, 2008, 02:57:59 pm
hilary jinxed'im...



http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=8100.msg160629#msg160629
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on May 05, 2008, 03:04:42 pm
hilary jinxed'im...



[url]http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=8100.msg160629#msg160629[/url]



exactaly.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on May 05, 2008, 04:25:33 pm
http://www.nikkor2d2.com/flash/mainsitewindow.swf

http://www.nikkor2d2.com/
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on May 06, 2008, 10:15:34 am
The cyclone in Myanmar.   :|

Death toll now exceeding 22,000.  Just awful.   :|

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24478247

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on May 21, 2008, 12:27:35 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080520/ap_on_go_ot/blind_money

Court: Paper money discriminates against the blind

We could see a whole new look for currency in the US very soon.  I think this sort of change would be a good thing, but I am sure there are people out there who do not. 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on May 21, 2008, 01:26:14 pm
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080520/ap_on_go_ot/blind_money[/url]

Court: Paper money discriminates against the blind

We could see a whole new look for currency in the US very soon.  I think this sort of change would be a good thing, but I am sure there are people out there who do not. 



Option 1:
They should just make the change to debit/credit card and be done with the whole thing.  I can't figure out how they would put braile on money, and hopefully they wouldn't do different sized bills for different denominations, so maybe it's time to make the change to something more electronic.  This of course has it's issues.
Option 2:
Apparently they actually have a phone that can detect the currency for blind people.  The gov't should just hook up any blind person who applies for it, give them a tax credit, and hold off on changing the currency for a while.
Option 3: (tongue in cheek, so don't go postal on me)
Train seeing eye dogs to attack anyone who attempts to cheat a blind person with the wrong change.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on June 04, 2008, 10:26:21 am
http://autoworld.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/terrible-accident-car-crashes-into-bike-race-in-mexico/

The 28-year-old driver was apparently drunk and fell asleep when he crashed in the race, said police investigator Jose Alfredo Rodriguez. A photo taken by an official of the city showed cyclists and equipment launched high into the air by the collision.

Rodriguez said Juan Campos was charged with murder Alejandro Alvarez, 37, of Monterrey. Authorities said the wreck happened 15 minutes in the 34 kilometers (21 miles) race Sunday along a road between Baghdad and Playa Matamoros, across from Brownsville, Texas.
Campos said he is a U.S. citizen living in Brownsville. The USA Consulate could not immediately confirm that.

 :-o

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on June 17, 2008, 11:16:14 am
I can't wait until we move on to the next page so I don't have to turn off the volume on my machine to view this page.


edit: guess this post did it.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on June 17, 2008, 11:19:14 am
I can't wait until we move on to the next page so I don't have to turn off the volume on my machine to view this page.


edit: guess this post did it.


Yes, thank you.  That was kind of annoying.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on June 17, 2008, 11:23:34 am
heh
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on June 17, 2008, 01:10:16 pm
Now I can't wait for that response to move far enough down in the post reply section so I can reply without having to turn down the volume on my machine.

That shit always wakes up the kid.

Almost did this time.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on June 17, 2008, 02:09:41 pm
You know it's awesome and you've already ordered one.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on July 08, 2008, 09:30:13 am
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8322190?MSNHPHMA

Chiefs' Gonzalez saves man's life with Heimlich


KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) - A California man says Pro Bowl tight end Tony Gonzalez of the Kansas City Chiefs kept him from choking to death.

Tony saved my life. There's no doubt," Ken Hunter, a shipping company manager, told The Associated Press in a phone interview from Huntington Beach, Calif.

"Tony came up behind me and gave me the Heimlich maneuver. Thank God he was there."

Gonzalez, a nine-time Pro Bowl selection who has set numerous NFL records, was having dinner with his wife, brother and 5-week-old daughter at Capone's restaurant in Huntington Beach Thursday night. Hunter, 45, was dining with his girlfriend at the next table when suddenly a piece of meat stuck in his throat.

"I tried to take a drink of water, but I couldn't swallow," Hunter told The AP. "Then I couldn't breathe. That's a terrible feeling. I couldn't breathe. Then I guess I started to panic."

Gonzalez, sitting with his back to Hunter's table, looked around when he heard Hunter's companion yelling.

"She was screaming, 'He can't breathe, he can't breathe,"' Gonzalez said by phone from California, where he lives in the offseason. "The whole restaurant was quiet. Nobody was doing anything.

"Then I saw he was turning blue. Everybody in the restaurant was just kind of sitting there wide-eyed."

The 6-foot-5 Gonzalez, about a foot taller than Hunter, jumped out of his chair and came up behind the stricken man and began to perform the Heimlich maneuver.

"After just a few seconds, the piece of meat popped out," Hunter said. "I could breathe again. It's a good thing Tony is so tall because I had stood up — I think."

Diana Martin, a restaurant employee, said no one else seemed to know what to do.

"He was so lucky Tony was there," Martin said. "In a situation like that, every second counts. It helped a lot that Tony's a big, strong guy because you have to be able to apply some pretty good pressure. I don't think I would have been strong enough to help him."

Hunter went into the restroom to clean up and didn't realize he'd been saved by a famous athlete until he came out.

"I'm a big NFL fan and I recognized him right away. I was still kind of dazed when I went over and thanked him and said, 'What can I do for you?' I guess I said it about 1,000 times."

Gonzalez, who has been active in charity and community activities during a brilliant career with the Chiefs, said he had no intention of having the incident become public.

"The next night I had a dinner for my grandmother's 90th birthday, and people were saying, 'Why didn't you tell me about that?' I honestly don't want to make a big deal out of it. But of course it does give me a lot of satisfaction to know that I was able to help somebody."

One of the most productive receivers in pro football history, Gonzalez holds the NFL record for tight ends with 820 career receptions and 102 catches in a season. He needs only 79 more yards receiving to become the career leader among tight ends.

He has never received any formal instruction in the Heimlich maneuver.

"I had seen it done, so I just did it," Gonzalez said. "When you find yourself in those situations where you have to take action in a crucial situation, you just do it. I got the same feeling I get when I go on a hospital visit."'

Hunter is a lifelong fan of the San Diego Chargers, one of Kansas City's key rivals in the AFC West, and plans to be at the game when the Chiefs visit the Chargers on Nov. 9.

"I'm Tony's No. 1 fan now," he said.

And what will this longtime follower of the Chargers do if they're ahead by four or five points in the final minute and Gonzalez runs into the end zone and leaps up for what would be the game-winning touchdown for K.C.?

"I'm going to be yelling for Tony to catch the ball," Hunter said. "I think all my friends will understand."
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on July 09, 2008, 01:15:46 pm
Quote
Toyota may put solar panels on new Prius to power air conditioning

A Japanese newspaper is reporting that Toyota plans to install solar panels on its next model of the popular Prius hybrid. If the company follows through, it would be the first major automaker to incorporate solar power into its vehicles. Even with the panels, though, the Prius wouldn't actually run on solar power; instead, the solar panels would reportedly power the vehicle's air conditioning.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on July 09, 2008, 02:18:20 pm
Kick ass, cause when you kick the AC, the thing runs only on gas...weaksauce unless you live above 7000 ft. elevation...I saw a guy who had a complete solar kit for the prius, only cost about $5k..just iffy to buy something like that for some strangers garage.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: khalpin on July 14, 2008, 08:34:52 am
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080714/ap_on_bi_ge/anheuser_busch_inbev

Just seems kinda wrong...

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ST. LOUIS - Anheuser-Busch, the maker of Budweiser and Bud Light, has agreed to a takeover by a giant Belgian brewer, a union that creates a global beer leader and brings to an end one of the most iconic names in American business.

The board of directors of Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc. on Sunday accepted a sweetened $52 billion takeover offer from Belgian brewer InBev SA, according to a joint press release.

The deal, which is subject to shareholders' and regulators' approval, would create the world's largest brewer and create the fourth-largest consumer product company worldwide.

"This combination will create a stronger, more competitive global company with an unrivaled worldwide brand portfolio and distribution network, with great potential for growth all over the world," Carlos Brito, CEO of InBev, said in the statement.

For InBev, the maker of Stella Artois and Beck's, the deal gives an aggressive company an iconic beer brand — Budweiser — to sell into emerging markets where it has already established a firm footprint.

InBev is the world's second-largest beer-maker behind SABMiller. Anheuser-Busch is by far the largest brewer in the U.S. with more than 48 percent of the market share.

Brito will be chief executive officer of the combined company, which will be named Anheuser-Busch-InBev. Shareholders will receive $70 a share, a $5 increase over the offer Anheuser-Busch rejected in June.

It wasn't immediately clear how long approval might take. Several Missouri politicians have expressed concerns about the merger — especially how it would affect the approximate 6,000 people employed by Anheuser-Busch in St. Louis.

InBev said it plans to use St. Louis as its North American headquarters, and that it will keep open all 12 of Anheuser-Busch's North American breweries.

InBev announced its intent to try and purchase Anheuser-Busch on June 11. The Anheuser-Busch board initially voted against the merger, calling the initial $65 per share offer too low.

That prompted much squabbling between the companies over the past few weeks. InBev filed a motion seeking the removal of all 13 Anheuser-Busch board members; Anheuser-Busch filed suit calling the InBev effort an "illegal scheme" that threatened to defraud Anheuser-Busch shareholders. Among other things, the suit noted that InBev failed to disclose it operates a brewery in Cuba.

Few products are associated with America as much as Budweiser. Its Clydesdale horses are fixtures of Super Bowl ads, and even the label is red, white and blue, with an eagle swooping through the "A."

"This agreement provides additional and certain value for Anheuser-Busch shareholders, while enhancing global market access for Budweiser, one of America's true iconic brands," August Busch IV, Anheuser-Busch president and CEO, said in the statement.

The merger, if completed, also will bring to an end a name synonymous with St. Louis. From college buildings to theme parks to offices to the stadium where the Cardinals play baseball, the Busch name is virtually everywhere in the Gateway City.

Eberhard Anheuser acquired the Bavarian brewery in 1860 and renamed it E. Anheuser & Co. His son-in-law, Adolphus Busch, joined the company in 1864 and it was eventually renamed Anheuser-Busch.

The company survived Prohibition by selling products ranging from ice cream to root beer.

Fears that InBev would make layoffs prompted some U.S. politicians and civic leaders speak out against the deal. At least two Web sites also sprung up opposing the merger. SaveBudweiser.com claims to have more than 60,000 signatures from merger opponents. SaveAB.com hosted a recent anti-merger rally that drew hundreds to downtown St. Louis.

InBev is renowned for shaving costs since it was formed in a 2004 merger between Belgium's Interbrew and Brazil-based AmBev. The company has not said if it will shed Anheuser-Busch staff to make savings. But some cutbacks seem likely.

The company said it expects cost synergies of at least $1.5 billion a year by 2011 over three years. The deal won't benefit earnings per share until 2010, it said.

Even without the merger, Anheuser-Busch said last month it planned to cut pension and health benefits for salaried employees as part of an effort to slash $1 billion in costs by the end of 2010. The plan called for offering early retirement to 1,300 salaried workers 55 and older.

The cost-cutting effort was part of a strategy to fend off the merger. Anheuser-Busch also owns a 50 percent share in Grupo Modelo, Mexico's leading brewer, and a 27 percent share in China brewer Tsingtao.

The beer industry has been consolidating in recent years amid rising costs for transportation fuel, aluminum for beer cans and key ingredients such as hops.


Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on July 14, 2008, 08:41:31 am
it's shitty beer, anyway.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on July 14, 2008, 09:00:52 am
it's shitty beer, anyway.



bite your tounge.

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Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on July 14, 2008, 09:16:06 am
it's shitty beer, anyway.



bite your tounge.

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Rather than drink that swill?
Anyday.

One can only hope that the theme parks will remain open and that better beer will come of it.
But the latter is probably too much to ask.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Hicks on July 14, 2008, 12:38:25 pm
it's shitty beer, anyway.



bite your tounge.

([url]http://www.joelapompe.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/crown2002_0989.jpg[/url])



Rather than drink that swill?
Anyday.

One can only hope that the theme parks will remain open and that better beer will come of it.
But the latter is probably too much to ask.



SER, Bud is gross, I'll take a High Life instead any day of the week.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on July 14, 2008, 12:46:20 pm
Fine!  more for me  :-D

Bud is far and away my favorite domestic beer.  Been that way for as long as I can remember.  Miller Lite is my kryptonite, that shit is nastay.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on July 14, 2008, 01:04:05 pm
Sorry, but the answer you guys are looking for is Mickey's.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on July 14, 2008, 02:43:23 pm
My favorite domestic beer is Anderson Valley's Hop Ottin IPA.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Hicks on July 14, 2008, 03:00:40 pm
Sorry, but the answer you guys are looking for is Mickey's.


Mickey's, the only malt liquor marketed to white people!   :-D

Anderson Valley is good stuff, the Oatmeal Stout and Boont Amber are my favorites, even though it's not from the NW it's NoCal so I'll drink it from time to time.

As for me, absolute favorite domestic beer, hmmm that's tough, but I'll have to go with Terminal Gravity ESG, followed closely by Deschutes Cascade Ale.  Pyramid Crystal Wheat has started popping up bottles lately, and is very good as well.  I'd give Rogue's Dead Guy a nod but it's so frickin' expensive that I haven't had it in a long time.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on July 17, 2008, 09:11:43 am
http://totallylookslike.com/
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Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on July 17, 2008, 09:33:43 am
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/16/sensesurface-sticks-knobs-onto-screens-turns-virtual-controls-p/
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_26hBXbNsGY[/youtube]
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on July 31, 2008, 03:50:28 pm
Be warned, this link contains a disturbing account of a horrific attack.

http://news.aol.ca/article/report-man-beheaded-on-bus-in-manitoba/295614/

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Report: Man Beheaded on Bus in Manitoba

A passenger repeatedly stabbed and then decapitated a young man aboard a Greyhound bus travelling through Manitoba overnight in what appears to be a random attack, witnesses told CBC News.



Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on August 04, 2008, 12:46:56 pm
Be warned, this link contains a disturbing account of a horrific attack.

[url]http://news.aol.ca/article/report-man-beheaded-on-bus-in-manitoba/295614/[/url]

Quote
Report: Man Beheaded on Bus in Manitoba

A passenger repeatedly stabbed and then decapitated a young man aboard a Greyhound bus travelling through Manitoba overnight in what appears to be a random attack, witnesses told CBC News.







I'm surprised no one commented on that... well, it gets worse:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/02/canada.bus.stabbing.ap/index.html

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TORONTO, Ontario (AP) -- A police officer at the scene of a grisly beheading on a Canadian bus reported seeing the attacker hacking off pieces of the victim's body and eating them, according to a police tape leaked on the Internet Saturday.
With family nearby, Alex McLean talks about his slain nephew Saturday in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.

In the tape of radio transmissions, a Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer refers to the attacker as "Badger" and says he is armed with a knife and scissors and is "defiling the body at the front of the bus as we speak."

On the tape, which lasts about 80 seconds, officers continue to detail the attacker's movements until one reports, "Badger's at the back of the bus, hacking off pieces and eating it."




Ugh.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on August 04, 2008, 01:15:21 pm
^^ completely creepy and stomach bothering.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: mattstick on August 04, 2008, 01:36:12 pm

I know what you're thinking.... It wasn't me.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on August 04, 2008, 01:43:32 pm
It's bizarre... This killer has no record. I wonder what more time will turn up. Usually people who do stuff like this appear on somebody's radar before they start killing.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: mattstick on August 04, 2008, 01:47:23 pm

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080804.BUS04//TPStory/Front

Pastor saw 'no risk' in hiring man charged in beheading
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 04, 2008, 01:57:19 pm
The most bizzare part to me is that there were over 30 other people on the bus, and none of them banded together to stop this monster.

The man was armed with a knife, not a gun.  Someone (especially the driver?) should have been able to subdue him.

Regardless of the security situation, it's utterly disgusting.  I really wish the guy would talk, so that we would know what was going through his mind, what his motivating factor was, etc.  I would read the book.

...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: khalpin on August 04, 2008, 02:22:25 pm
The most bizzare part to me is that there were over 30 other people on the bus, and none of them banded together to stop this monster.

The man was armed with a knife, not a gun.  Someone (especially the driver?) should have been able to subdue him.

Regardless of the security situation, it's utterly disgusting.  I really wish the guy would talk, so that we would know what was going through his mind, what his motivating factor was, etc.  I would read the book.

...


It's not very easy to disarm someone wielding a knife if you're unarmed.  Especially in tight quarters, like in the aisle of a bus.  Odds are you'd end up with a knife wound.  Add to that the extreme shock and surprise of seeing someone getting stabbed multiple times and the victim was probably as good as dead after about 10 seconds.  I don't know.  Seems like there's not too much they could really do.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on August 04, 2008, 02:49:48 pm
It's always easy to second guess from the outside. I'm sure some of the passengers are going to mull over some "what-ifs" for years to come. But really, in tight quarters; coming out of sleep to what reportedly was a gristly and terrifying scene of a man flailing wildly with a large knife... No one can fault those people for acting out of fear.

Credit to those who barricaded the bus door to keep the dude from getting off and coming after the rest of the passengers. That was after three of them had gone back on board to see if the victim could be saved and the killer went after them. That stuff is all in the first article.
Title: Re: have you heard about...? The Greatest Alarm Clock EVAR!!!
Post by: rowjimmy on August 06, 2008, 03:49:08 pm
http://www.mathlete.com/portfolio/wakeNbacon.php

Wake n Bacon
Best Alarm Clock Evar!!!!!!!11!11!!
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Title: Re: have you heard about...? The Greatest Alarm Clock EVAR!!!
Post by: birdman on August 06, 2008, 03:55:47 pm

Wake n Bacon
Best Alarm Clock Evar!!!!!!!11!11!!


 
Awesome.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on August 11, 2008, 01:52:09 pm
for serious?
this just interrupted normal news... more to come at 9 tonight?

maybe i'm just really uninformed and i dont' pay attention, but when did russia become so involved?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,401243,00.html
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 11, 2008, 03:48:28 pm
for serious?
this just interrupted normal news... more to come at 9 tonight?

maybe i'm just really uninformed and i dont' pay attention, but when did russia become so involved?

[url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,401243,00.html[/url]



It seems that the Rooskies took the opportunity afforded by the global focus on the olympics, a lame duck American Executive Branch and the fact that they have way more fire power than Georgia does, and Georgia has natural gas and oil pipelines that the greedy Russians would like to fully control and Georgia doesn't truly offer much to Americans besides positioning (which we haven't used) to assert themselves Globally, utilize their military resources to use their neighboring Georgians as target practice, throw their fat around and display to the World that under America's new regime, we may try to use "Diplomacy", but "Diplomacy" does not create a situation of global security or true peace.

As usual, George Bush took the opportunity to enjoy the Olympics and lick the cracks of other global leaders, as they licked his crack.

As usual, he has not asserted ourselves Globally.

It doesn't take much nutsack to bomb the fuck out of Iraq.  When it comes to defending our true allies against a real global power (such as Russia), it seems like we are telling the world that we tuck tail and run.

Don't tell that to our American Servicemen, however.  WE HAVE THE GREATEST MILITARY PRESENCE IN THE UNIIIIVERSE!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: natronzero on August 11, 2008, 09:52:18 pm
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Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: bluecaravan521 on August 12, 2008, 11:00:16 am
ROFL! Hahahaha  :-D  Epic question.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Declan on August 12, 2008, 11:19:41 am
ewww fox news...

i thought you all knew better  :wink:
Title: I don't know what to name this thread
Post by: whyweigh4.5 on August 19, 2008, 01:42:29 pm
 :?
http://io9.com/349956/one-pill-makes-you-autistic-++-and-one-pill-changes-you-back
Title: Re: I don't know what to name this thread
Post by: Riİh on August 19, 2008, 03:50:43 pm
I think I'll take the Red pill and pass up The Matrix this time around.  I quit autism when I took my last doses 10 years ago.
Title: anyone see the video of that smart kitesurfer yet?
Post by: whyweigh4.5 on August 19, 2008, 04:47:49 pm
 :? :frustrated:
http://www.wjno.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=244038&article=4117332
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on August 19, 2008, 06:26:38 pm
what a dumbass.
Title: Re: I don't know what to name this thread
Post by: Hicks on August 19, 2008, 06:38:27 pm
:?
[url]http://io9.com/349956/one-pill-makes-you-autistic-++-and-one-pill-changes-you-back[/url]



You never go full retard!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on August 22, 2008, 11:14:35 am
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Record fish caught with Barbie rod

WILKES COUNTY, N.C. — A backyard angler has bagged the state’s record channel catfish using a 2½-foot hot pink Barbie Doll rod and reel.

David Hayes caught the record-breaking fish from a private pond while fishing early this month with his granddaughter, Alyssa, 3. The 21-pound, 1-ounce catfish measured 32 inches long — 2 inches longer than the Barbie Doll fishing pole.
 
“After catching two or three bluegill, Alyssa turns to me and says: ‘Papa, I’ve got to go to the bathroom. Hold my fishing rod,’” Hayes was quoted as saying in a news release from the state Wildlife Resources Commission.

“A few minutes later, the float went under, and I saw the water start boiling up — I knew right then that I had my hands full with that fishing rod.”

It took Hayes about 25 minutes to land the fish, which measured 22½ inches in girth. Hayes said that once he got it to the bank, he was pretty certain his channel cat would exceed the previous state record, an 18-pound, 5-ounce fish caught in August 2007.

The fish was weighed on certified scales at a nearby grocery store, and a fisheries biologist with the Wildlife Resources Commission certified that Hayes was right.


 :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on August 22, 2008, 12:23:21 pm
Quote
Record fish caught with Barbie rod

WILKES COUNTY, N.C. — A backyard angler has bagged the state’s record channel catfish using a 2½-foot hot pink Barbie Doll rod and reel.

David Hayes caught the record-breaking fish from a private pond while fishing early this month with his granddaughter, Alyssa, 3. The 21-pound, 1-ounce catfish measured 32 inches long — 2 inches longer than the Barbie Doll fishing pole.
 
“After catching two or three bluegill, Alyssa turns to me and says: ‘Papa, I’ve got to go to the bathroom. Hold my fishing rod,’” Hayes was quoted as saying in a news release from the state Wildlife Resources Commission.

“A few minutes later, the float went under, and I saw the water start boiling up — I knew right then that I had my hands full with that fishing rod.”

It took Hayes about 25 minutes to land the fish, which measured 22½ inches in girth. Hayes said that once he got it to the bank, he was pretty certain his channel cat would exceed the previous state record, an 18-pound, 5-ounce fish caught in August 2007.

The fish was weighed on certified scales at a nearby grocery store, and a fisheries biologist with the Wildlife Resources Commission certified that Hayes was right.


 :-D


Speaking of catfish, have you seen these guys that catch catfish by letting them swallow their fist/arm and pull them up out of their holes in the water??  I am sure there is video of it somewhere.  I saw it on the news a while back and I was in complete shock.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on August 22, 2008, 12:27:07 pm
Quote
Record fish caught with Barbie rod

WILKES COUNTY, N.C. — A backyard angler has bagged the state’s record channel catfish using a 2½-foot hot pink Barbie Doll rod and reel.

David Hayes caught the record-breaking fish from a private pond while fishing early this month with his granddaughter, Alyssa, 3. The 21-pound, 1-ounce catfish measured 32 inches long — 2 inches longer than the Barbie Doll fishing pole.
 
“After catching two or three bluegill, Alyssa turns to me and says: ‘Papa, I’ve got to go to the bathroom. Hold my fishing rod,’” Hayes was quoted as saying in a news release from the state Wildlife Resources Commission.

“A few minutes later, the float went under, and I saw the water start boiling up — I knew right then that I had my hands full with that fishing rod.”

It took Hayes about 25 minutes to land the fish, which measured 22½ inches in girth. Hayes said that once he got it to the bank, he was pretty certain his channel cat would exceed the previous state record, an 18-pound, 5-ounce fish caught in August 2007.

The fish was weighed on certified scales at a nearby grocery store, and a fisheries biologist with the Wildlife Resources Commission certified that Hayes was right.


 :-D


Speaking of catfish, have you seen these guys that catch catfish by letting them swallow their fist/arm and pull them up out of their holes in the water??  I am sure there is video of it somewhere.  I saw it on the news a while back and I was in complete shock.


It's called Noodling.  seriously.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on August 22, 2008, 12:32:07 pm
^^That's what it is.  Totally forgot the name.  What a crazy thing to do...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: thechad on August 23, 2008, 01:25:32 am
You mean this?

[youtube]4UIpOUgQt-g&hl=en&fs=1[/youtube]
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Bobafett on August 23, 2008, 11:10:34 am
My uncles do that..retarded stuff.. they say you can telll weather you have a snake or not, because a snake is cold blooded, thus they will be colder than a catfish....no thanks.
Title: Re: anyone see the video of that smart kitesurfer yet?
Post by: Guyute on August 24, 2008, 08:43:28 am
:? :frustrated:
[url]http://www.wjno.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=244038&article=4117332[/url]



In the words of Carlos Mencia

De Dee Dee
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on October 09, 2008, 12:25:04 pm
baby, you should have called me.
i'd have taken care of her...  :wink: :evil:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081009/ap_en_mo/people_cusack

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LOS ANGELES - A woman accused of stalking actor John Cusack will stand trial after a last-minute plea deal fell through late Wednesday afternoon.
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Emily Leatherman was moments away from accepting a deal that would have allowed her to avoid state prison. But after she indicated she wasn't entering into the deal freely, a judge rejected the bargain and ordered the 33-year-old woman to stand trial beginning Friday.

Leatherman was facing her first glimpse of freedom since March, when she was arrested outside Cusack's home. She indicated during the hearing that she felt jail was making her sick and that she wanted to leave.

She faces four years in state prison if convicted.

Cusack, star of such films as "Being John Malkovich," "High Fidelity" and "Grace is Gone," is expected to testify during the trial.

On Wednesday, Leatherman appeared in court and was subdued at first, answering a prosecutor's questions simply and politely.

Her demeanor was drastically different from an August court hearing, during which Leatherman berated Judge Susan M. Speer. The judge had just found her competent to stand trial, but not to act as her own attorney.

But during Wednesday's hearing she accused her attorney, Brent Merritt, of using scare tactics to get her to agree to the deal. Merritt, who was appointed against Leatherman's wishes, denied the allegation in court.

Leatherman seemed unsure of the agreement at times, prompting a prosecutor to ask repeatedly her whether she wanted to accept the deal.

Her uncertainty led Speer to discard the deal and order jury selection to begin Friday morning, causing Leatherman to express a willingness to accept the plea deal.

"I want to take it," Leatherman shouted before bailiffs led her off in handcuffs.



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Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on October 13, 2008, 07:25:41 pm
[stoner]

Cops: Man tries to pay for meal with pot
McDonald's cashier calls 911 after drive-thru customer makes offer

VERO BEACH, Fla. - A McDonald's cashier called 911 after a Vero Beach drive-thru customer allegedly offered to pay for his meal with marijuana. The Indian River County Sheriff's Office said the cashier called Monday with a description of the vehicle the suspect had been riding in.

A deputy spotted the vehicle, found marijuana in the car and arrested its occupant, 27-year-old Shawn Alexander Pannullo.

Pannullo was charged with possession of cannabis and posted $500 bail. It was unclear if he had an attorney.

[/stoner]

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on December 08, 2008, 11:41:04 am
As seen elsewhere:
Never hire a guy named "Pancake" to move your single-wide

http://www.kentucky.com/181/story/597604.html

(http://media.kentucky.com/smedia/2008/11/19/06/521-nicholas-500.standalone.prod_affiliate.79.jpg)

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Chris "Pancake" Meyers told her, she said, that he had more than 13 years' experience in hauling things and that he had the proper permits and insurance for the move. (She didn't ask to see proof of insurance or a permit, she said. Meyers could not be reached for comment Tuesday by the Herald-Leader.)
About 1½ miles into the move, the tires popped off.




Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on December 08, 2008, 02:15:44 pm
 :lol: :lol:

gotta love the home state.  8-)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: PhishPhan on December 08, 2008, 11:50:08 pm
[stoner]

Cops: Man tries to pay for meal with pot
McDonald's cashier calls 911 after drive-thru customer makes offer

VERO BEACH, Fla. - A McDonald's cashier called 911 after a Vero Beach drive-thru customer allegedly offered to pay for his meal with marijuana. The Indian River County Sheriff's Office said the cashier called Monday with a description of the vehicle the suspect had been riding in.

A deputy spotted the vehicle, found marijuana in the car and arrested its occupant, 27-year-old Shawn Alexander Pannullo.

Pannullo was charged with possession of cannabis and posted $500 bail. It was unclear if he had an attorney.

[/stoner]





(Cue bad pun) Response to an old post but, maybe he just didn't understand when the man told him to pay with some green. (End bad pun...)

As seen elsewhere:
Never hire a guy named "Pancake" to move your single-wide

[url]http://www.kentucky.com/181/story/597604.html[/url]

([url]http://media.kentucky.com/smedia/2008/11/19/06/521-nicholas-500.standalone.prod_affiliate.79.jpg[/url])

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Chris "Pancake" Meyers told her, she said, that he had more than 13 years' experience in hauling things and that he had the proper permits and insurance for the move. (She didn't ask to see proof of insurance or a permit, she said. Meyers could not be reached for comment Tuesday by the Herald-Leader.)
About 1½ miles into the move, the tires popped off.








One of the people that I hire on a daily basis has the name of Pancake. Different service though. He drives a hefty bargain...!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: redrum on January 14, 2009, 12:51:24 am
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QUINCY, Fla. - An Indiana investment adviser suspected of faking his death in an airplane crash as his personal and financial worlds crumbled around him was found late Tuesday in northern Florida.

Lt. Jim Corder of the Gadsden County Sheriff's Office said Marcus Schrenker was in police custody with non-life threatening injuries. A spokesman for the Sheriff's Office said the injuries were consistent with a suicide attempt but were superficial.
Story continues below ↓advertisement | your ad here

Schrenker had been the subject of an extensive search since Sunday, when he radioed from his single-engine aircraft that he was in trouble.

In a feat reminiscent of a James Bond movie, the 38-year-old businessman and amateur daredevil pilot apparently tried to fake his death in a plane crash,
secretly parachuting to the ground and speeding away on a motorcycle he had stashed away in the pine barrens of central Alabama.

Schrenker was running not only from the law but from divorce, a state investigation of his businesses and angry investors who accuse him of stealing potentially millions in savings they entrusted to him.

"We've learned over time that he's a pathological liar — you don't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth," said Charles Kinney, a 49-year-old airline pilot from Atlanta who alleges Schrenker pocketed at least $135,000 of his parents' retirement fund.

Radio went silent
The events of the past few days appeared to be a last, desperate gambit by a man who had fallen from great heights and was about to hit bottom.

On Sunday — two days after burying his beloved stepfather and suffering a half-million-dollar loss in federal court same day — Schrenker was flying his single-engine Piper Malibu to Florida from his Indiana home when he radioed from 2,000 feet that he was in trouble. He told the tower the windshield had imploded, and that his face was plastered with blood.

Then his radio went silent.

Military jets tried to intercept the plane and found the door open, the cockpit dark. The pilots followed until it crashed in a Florida Panhandle bayou surrounded by homes. There was no sign of Schrenker's body. They now know they should never have expected to find one.

More than 220 miles to the north, at a convenience store in Childersburg, Ala., police picked up a man using Schrenker's Indiana driver's license and carrying a pair of what appeared to be pilot's goggles. The man, who was wet from the knees down, told the officers he'd been in a canoe accident.

After officers gave him a lift to a nearby motel, Schrenker made his way to a storage unit he'd rented just the day before his flight. He climbed aboard a red racing motorcycle with full saddlebags, and sped off into the countryside.

"He jumped out an airplane and left it to crash who knows where," said Police Chief David Latimer in Harpersville, Ala., near where the plane crashed. "He's shown a total disregard for human life."

At 38, Schrenker was at the head of an impressive slate of businesses. Through his Heritage Wealth Management Inc., Heritage Insurance Services Inc. and Icon Wealth Management, he was responsible for providing financial advice and managing portfolios worth millions.

And by outward appearances, he was doing quite well.

Luxury autos, airplanes
He collected luxury automobiles, owned two airplanes and lived in a 10,000-square-foot house in an upscale neighborhood known as "Cocktail Cove," where affluent boaters often socialize with cocktails in hand. In May 2000, he wowed onlookers by flying a special airplane at 270 mph, 10 feet above the water and under two bridges in Nassau, Bahamas.

"This stunt should not be attempted by any pilot that wishes to stay alive," read the caption on a self-made video of the flight posted on YouTube.




http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28623108/


http://gawker.com/5130772/meet-marc-schrenker-the-macgyver-of-money-mayhem

his video is at the 2nd link
dude's crazy.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on January 14, 2009, 09:43:31 am
heh. I've been to Quincy, FL.
I'd try to kill myself if I was "hiding out" there too.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on January 14, 2009, 01:25:16 pm
this story's all over the news here...

apparently he's in a hospital, in decent condition and is facing lawsuits in indiana and florida....
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on January 14, 2009, 02:05:36 pm
New topic--

Anyone read The Onion regularly? (Dumb question?) Anyway, ever since the election they've been doing a sporadic series of news briefs about horrible, painful things happening to Bush. These pieces make extremely gratifying reading. Today's and 2 others are below...

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CAMP DAVID, MD—The Federal Aviation Administration said engine failure was to blame for a pilot losing control of a four-seater Cessna aircraft that crashed head-on into President Bush Thursday. According to the FAA report, the nose of the Cessna 350 impacted with the president's face at 110 mph, instantly killing pilot James Morris, 45. Bush reportedly suffered third-degree burns on 95 percent of his body, a broken spine, 20 shattered ribs, one collapsed lung, a basilar skull fracture, and minor leakage of cerebrospinal fluid. Bush, who had been hiking alone in an isolated region of the 125-acre presidential retreat before the accident, was trapped under the burning engine block for 45 minutes before rescue crews reached the crash site. While doctors said they worked swiftly to remove the smoldering wreckage from the president's body, much of the plane's burning debris had already fused to his skeleton before he could be airlifted from the scene. Bush is resting comfortably at Bethesda Naval Hospital.


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WASHINGTON—President Bush collapsed in the Oval Office after spontaneously expelling a 3-pound kidney stone from his bladder, sources reported Tuesday. According to witnesses, the president was attending his daily Iraq War briefing when he suddenly began shrieking loudly and clutching his abdomen, a mixture of blood and urine pooling rapidly around his feet. Bush was able to maintain consciousness through more than 20 minutes of excruciating pain, even after the jagged, grapefruit-sized crystal aggregation shredded his urethra and dropped from his left pant leg, finally rolling to a stop on the presidential seal in the middle of the Oval Office carpet. Bush is resting comfortably at Bethesda Naval Hospital.


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WASHINGTON—President Bush collapsed to the floor of the Oval Office during a meeting with advisers when spiderlings hatched from thousands of egg sacs affixed between the hemispheres of his brain, according to a White House memo released Monday. The spiders severed the president's corpus callosum and ate through the motor-control center of the brain, doctors said, causing Bush's body to jerk involuntarily as a scurrying mass of crab spiders emerged from his mouth and crawled down his face. Witnesses confirmed that a number of spiders also discharged from the president's tear ducts. Secret Service agents restrained the president and carried him to the White House medical facility, but doctors said that by the time Bush arrived, the arachnids had already consumed his corneas, pupils, and vitreous humor. Bush is resting comfortably at Bethesda Naval Hospital.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on January 14, 2009, 02:20:03 pm
Wow. That second one hurts to read.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on January 14, 2009, 02:48:02 pm
I like how they all end with:

"Bush is resting comfortably at Bethesda Naval Hospital."

 :lol:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: kellerb on January 14, 2009, 08:35:09 pm
Tragedy today as former President Gerald Ford eaten by wolves.
.
.





He was delicious
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: redrum on January 14, 2009, 08:48:41 pm
this story's all over the news here...

apparently he's in a hospital, in decent condition and is facing lawsuits in indiana and florida....



(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm247/unclejohn78/failpilot.jpg)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on January 15, 2009, 05:32:36 pm
craziness....

took off at 3:03pm EST.....

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A US Airways Airbus A320 passenger plane carrying more than 100 commuters has crashed into the Hudson River in New York City.

The plane, which the FAA said was flight 1549 from LaGuardia Airport to Charlotte, is partially submerged.

Rescue boats at the scene have been picking up passengers standing on the plane's wings.

Two of the plane's engines were disabled by bird strikes, officials said. No casualties have been reported.

"There is no indication that the incident is security related", a Homeland Security official told the BBC.

A passenger who escaped from the aircraft told CNN he thought that all those on board had emerged unscathed.

"A couple of minutes after taking off we heard a loud bang, the plane shook a bit and immediately we could smell smoke and fire," the passenger said.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7832191.stm
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on January 15, 2009, 05:37:59 pm
craziness....

took off at 3:03pm EST.....

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A US Airways Airbus A320 passenger plane carrying more than 100 commuters has crashed into the Hudson River in New York City.

The plane, which the FAA said was flight 1549 from LaGuardia Airport to Charlotte, is partially submerged.

Rescue boats at the scene have been picking up passengers standing on the plane's wings.

Two of the plane's engines were disabled by bird strikes, officials said. No casualties have been reported.

"There is no indication that the incident is security related", a Homeland Security official told the BBC.

A passenger who escaped from the aircraft told CNN he thought that all those on board had emerged unscathed.

"A couple of minutes after taking off we heard a loud bang, the plane shook a bit and immediately we could smell smoke and fire," the passenger said.



[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7832191.stm[/url]





That's some scary shit.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: ytowndan on January 15, 2009, 06:13:38 pm
At least it looks like nobody was seriously injured.  Crazy stuff. 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on January 15, 2009, 06:27:02 pm
Full credit should go to the pilot for keeping his head and landing than plane safely (albeit on the water.)

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on January 15, 2009, 06:55:39 pm
any Twittering from this one?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on January 16, 2009, 11:44:42 am
Full credit should go to the pilot for keeping his head and landing than plane safely (albeit on the water.)




Ser.  To be able to make that decision in 30 seconds is pretty cool.  That dude might get the "hero" tag applied.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: slslbs on January 16, 2009, 11:27:56 pm
Full credit should go to the pilot for keeping his head and landing than plane safely (albeit on the water.)




Ser.  To be able to make that decision in 30 seconds is pretty cool.  That dude might get the "hero" tag applied.

well deserved.
amazing story
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on January 22, 2009, 02:00:03 pm
Sweet!
Flying cars for sale. Fly 500 miles on regular.  Only $194,000.
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/01/22/flying-car.html
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: redrum on January 22, 2009, 02:09:52 pm
too bad they won't be ready for Hampton or Summer 09.

birdman, i could totally see us landing on lot in one of those.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on January 22, 2009, 02:12:43 pm
How is this news?  Marty Mcfly has been rockin' the flying delorean for years! 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on January 22, 2009, 02:25:02 pm
too bad they won't be ready for Hampton or Summer 09.

birdman, i could totally see us landing on lot in one of those.



Summer 2010.
Im having a custom VW popup model made.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: redrum on January 22, 2009, 02:31:13 pm
SHOTGUN!!!  :banana:

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on January 22, 2009, 02:36:25 pm
Will it run on Bio Diesel?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on January 22, 2009, 02:39:34 pm
SHOTGUN!!!  :banana:

-------------------------

on an unrelated note:


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11-Month-Old Boy Accidentally NARCs on Dad

We all expect a little indulgence from our parents when we inadvertently screw up. We happen to know about an 11-month-old Canadian baby who's going to need an extra ounce of forgiveness from his dada. The boy evidently called 911 by accident, leading police to his father's extensive marijuana-growing operation.

Canadian mounties showed up at the house in White Rock, British Columbia, last week, after receiving a hang-up emergency call from that location. After knocking repeatedly, the officers broke into the house and found a 29-year-old father on the other side, with no emergency in sight. "The gentleman was quite surprised," said a policewoman.

The father said he hadn't made the call and scoffed at the idea that his 11-month-old son could have dialed -- but then police spotted the baby boy in the act. "We saw him playing with the cordless phone and just pressing all the buttons, so evidently he had called 911," said the cop.

Instead of laughing the incident off, police inspected the man's house, which led them to a 500-plant marijuana-growing operation. The man was arrested, and is now awaiting trial, while the boy was left with his mother -- and will likely now cope with a lifetime of confused daddy issues.


We think the cops may have been tipped off by the baby's bedroom being decorated with (black lite) posters (from aug) like the those in the gallery below.



[url]http://www.asylum.com/2009/01/22/11-month-old-boy-accidentally-narcs-on-dad/[/url]



 :lol:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: redrum on January 22, 2009, 02:40:03 pm
Quote
11-Month-Old Boy Accidentally NARCs on Dad

We all expect a little indulgence from our parents when we inadvertently screw up. We happen to know about an 11-month-old Canadian baby who's going to need an extra ounce of forgiveness from his dada. The boy evidently called 911 by accident, leading police to his father's extensive marijuana-growing operation.

Canadian mounties showed up at the house in White Rock, British Columbia, last week, after receiving a hang-up emergency call from that location. After knocking repeatedly, the officers broke into the house and found a 29-year-old father on the other side, with no emergency in sight. "The gentleman was quite surprised," said a policewoman.

The father said he hadn't made the call and scoffed at the idea that his 11-month-old son could have dialed -- but then police spotted the baby boy in the act. "We saw him playing with the cordless phone and just pressing all the buttons, so evidently he had called 911," said the cop.

Instead of laughing the incident off, police inspected the man's house, which led them to a 500-plant marijuana-growing operation. The man was arrested, and is now awaiting trial, while the boy was left with his mother -- and will likely now cope with a lifetime of confused daddy issues.


We think the cops may have been tipped off by the baby's bedroom being decorated with (black lite) posters (from aug) like the those in the gallery below.



http://www.asylum.com/2009/01/22/11-month-old-boy-accidentally-narcs-on-dad/
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Hicks on January 22, 2009, 03:29:33 pm
SHOTGUN!!!  :banana:

-------------------------

on an unrelated note:


Quote
11-Month-Old Boy Accidentally NARCs on Dad

We all expect a little indulgence from our parents when we inadvertently screw up. We happen to know about an 11-month-old Canadian baby who's going to need an extra ounce of forgiveness from his dada. The boy evidently called 911 by accident, leading police to his father's extensive marijuana-growing operation.

Canadian mounties showed up at the house in White Rock, British Columbia, last week, after receiving a hang-up emergency call from that location. After knocking repeatedly, the officers broke into the house and found a 29-year-old father on the other side, with no emergency in sight. "The gentleman was quite surprised," said a policewoman.

The father said he hadn't made the call and scoffed at the idea that his 11-month-old son could have dialed -- but then police spotted the baby boy in the act. "We saw him playing with the cordless phone and just pressing all the buttons, so evidently he had called 911," said the cop.

Instead of laughing the incident off, police inspected the man's house, which led them to a 500-plant marijuana-growing operation. The man was arrested, and is now awaiting trial, while the boy was left with his mother -- and will likely now cope with a lifetime of confused daddy issues.


We think the cops may have been tipped off by the baby's bedroom being decorated with (black lite) posters (from aug) like the those in the gallery below.



[url]http://www.asylum.com/2009/01/22/11-month-old-boy-accidentally-narcs-on-dad/[/url]



 :lol:



Dunno about Canada but here in the US we call that illegal search and seizure.

Also, epic simultaneous posting redrum and minor! 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: twatts on January 22, 2009, 03:40:53 pm
SHOTGUN!!!  :banana:

-------------------------

on an unrelated note:


Quote
11-Month-Old Boy Accidentally NARCs on Dad

We all expect a little indulgence from our parents when we inadvertently screw up. We happen to know about an 11-month-old Canadian baby who's going to need an extra ounce of forgiveness from his dada. The boy evidently called 911 by accident, leading police to his father's extensive marijuana-growing operation.

Canadian mounties showed up at the house in White Rock, British Columbia, last week, after receiving a hang-up emergency call from that location. After knocking repeatedly, the officers broke into the house and found a 29-year-old father on the other side, with no emergency in sight. "The gentleman was quite surprised," said a policewoman.

The father said he hadn't made the call and scoffed at the idea that his 11-month-old son could have dialed -- but then police spotted the baby boy in the act. "We saw him playing with the cordless phone and just pressing all the buttons, so evidently he had called 911," said the cop.

Instead of laughing the incident off, police inspected the man's house, which led them to a 500-plant marijuana-growing operation. The man was arrested, and is now awaiting trial, while the boy was left with his mother -- and will likely now cope with a lifetime of confused daddy issues.


We think the cops may have been tipped off by the baby's bedroom being decorated with (black lite) posters (from aug) like the those in the gallery below.



[url]http://www.asylum.com/2009/01/22/11-month-old-boy-accidentally-narcs-on-dad/[/url]



 :lol:



Dunno about Canada but here in the US we call that illegal search and seizure.




Not anymore...

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/article968388.ece

Terry
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: redrum on January 22, 2009, 03:44:02 pm
Also, epic simultaneous posting redrum and minor! 



 :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on January 22, 2009, 03:49:23 pm
Also, epic simultaneous posting redrum and minor! 



 :-D


 :-D

That's some sh*t inspired by Lost...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Hicks on January 22, 2009, 06:07:37 pm
SHOTGUN!!!  :banana:

-------------------------

on an unrelated note:


Quote
11-Month-Old Boy Accidentally NARCs on Dad

We all expect a little indulgence from our parents when we inadvertently screw up. We happen to know about an 11-month-old Canadian baby who's going to need an extra ounce of forgiveness from his dada. The boy evidently called 911 by accident, leading police to his father's extensive marijuana-growing operation.

Canadian mounties showed up at the house in White Rock, British Columbia, last week, after receiving a hang-up emergency call from that location. After knocking repeatedly, the officers broke into the house and found a 29-year-old father on the other side, with no emergency in sight. "The gentleman was quite surprised," said a policewoman.

The father said he hadn't made the call and scoffed at the idea that his 11-month-old son could have dialed -- but then police spotted the baby boy in the act. "We saw him playing with the cordless phone and just pressing all the buttons, so evidently he had called 911," said the cop.

Instead of laughing the incident off, police inspected the man's house, which led them to a 500-plant marijuana-growing operation. The man was arrested, and is now awaiting trial, while the boy was left with his mother -- and will likely now cope with a lifetime of confused daddy issues.


We think the cops may have been tipped off by the baby's bedroom being decorated with (black lite) posters (from aug) like the those in the gallery below.



[url]http://www.asylum.com/2009/01/22/11-month-old-boy-accidentally-narcs-on-dad/[/url]



 :lol:



Dunno about Canada but here in the US we call that illegal search and seizure.




Not anymore...

[url]http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/article968388.ece[/url]

Terry




F-ing Bush appointees!   :frustrated:   
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Declan on January 22, 2009, 06:16:18 pm
wut de fuck...

i dont think that could have slipped under our noses could it?

i always thought that was one of the major differences in canadia...

bust in and find shit by accident, they can hold it against you
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: hoodie22 on February 12, 2009, 01:16:07 am
Well I'm sure most of you have heard about this, but I haven't seen anything about it on here:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/02/06/octuplets.mom/index.html

The octuplets that were born to a woman who already has 6 kids, lives with her parents in a 3-bedroom house, no job and no husband. My mom sucked me into her interview on dateline last night and this woman is pretty delusional, I don't really know who she expects to take care of these kids while shes going to school and even with her degree, I don't think she'll be earning a living that will be able to support 14 children, 3 of which are already special needs, and there is no doubt that one, if not all, of the octuplets are going to be facing development problems. This has become a popular topic of discussion in my house for the past couple days, especially since my mom works for children's services and deals with parents who have children taken away for "failure to plan" all the time, and thinks that this is and easy case for that...I guess I'm just curious what your guys' take is on this, if you have any. I think she's pretty nuts, and now has a website for donations. I just hope these kids all get what they need.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on February 12, 2009, 08:56:42 am
See, if this were a case of a woman having an oops baby or two, that'd be one thing.
This woman had fertility treatments. She purposefully underwent fertility treatments.
She should be flogged and her doctor should have his/her license revoked.

And rather than welfare, the state should seek new homes for these children.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on February 12, 2009, 09:05:19 am
 What disgusts me is that she was injured and has been receiving disability for years, She then spent close to one hundred thousand on fertility treatments. She is in need of some mental health counseling.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on February 12, 2009, 09:23:37 am
I wonder how many specialists she went to before finding the one who agreed to implant eight frigging embryos.

One more excellent argument for restrictions on parenthood, destined to go absolutely nowhere. I'm sure similarly deluded nutjobs are lining up to subsidize this lady's insanity. Our society is so f'ed up.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on February 12, 2009, 10:09:41 am
I wonder how many specialists she went to before finding the one who agreed to implant eight frigging embryos.

One more excellent argument for restrictions on parenthood, destined to go absolutely nowhere. I'm sure similarly deluded nutjobs are lining up to subsidize this lady's insanity. Our society is so f'ed up.


It's common to implant multiple embryos. statistically, most do not 'attach'.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: slslbs on February 12, 2009, 10:47:49 am
the issue is, imo, who paid / is paying for all of this
clearly, this was a non-essential procedure, as far a life preserving / life saving / health maintenance
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on February 12, 2009, 12:54:34 pm
I wonder how many specialists she went to before finding the one who agreed to implant eight frigging embryos.

One more excellent argument for restrictions on parenthood, destined to go absolutely nowhere. I'm sure similarly deluded nutjobs are lining up to subsidize this lady's insanity. Our society is so f'ed up.


It's common to implant multiple embryos. statistically, most do not 'attach'.


Oh, I know--that's why trips and quads have been on the rise. But as I understand it, 8 is way outside the normal parameters. Of course, I'm no fertility specialist.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: hoodie22 on February 12, 2009, 07:02:47 pm
See, if this were a case of a woman having an oops baby or two, that'd be one thing.
This woman had fertility treatments. She purposefully underwent fertility treatments.
She should be flogged and her doctor should have his/her license revoked.

And rather than welfare, the state should seek new homes for these children.


I agree. And its completely ridiculous that she even went in at all for more treatments since she already has 6 kids (3 of which are special needs), no income other than disability, and living in her parents 3-bedroom house. I think shes insanely delusional and clearly has no grasp on how insanely difficult it is going to be to care for 8 premie infants, along with the 6 other children, not to mention how much the medical care is going to cost and she still plans on going to school? Who is she expecting to care for these kids? Also, she has CLEARLY had plastic surgery that probably cost $20K or more...and why wasn't that money used to maybe get a house? or just provide for her children....she obviously loves the attention and having the children, but not the work that goes with it, its pretty sick. I don't think people should be donating to her and rewarding her for her ridiculous decision, the children should be removed so they don't have to suffer for her poor decisions and she is obviously not the most stable person.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on February 12, 2009, 07:23:31 pm
Yup.

But our society is f'ed up on reproduction, plain and (I guess not really) simple. Aren't there like three different cable shows about familes with insane numbers of kids? One of them's a family with maybe half a dozen kids, all autistic? And none of the shows are honest about the fact that they're  freakshows about batshit-crazy people who have too many kids. It's all "human interest"-flavored freakshow. Yech.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on February 12, 2009, 07:47:17 pm
I wouldn't be surprised if California's Child Protective Services steps in and takes over.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on February 12, 2009, 08:30:47 pm
I think it's a damn shame that the woman is poor to begin with.

In an ideal society, everyone should be able to afford to have 14 children at once!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on February 12, 2009, 08:52:40 pm
I think it's a damn shame that the woman is poor to begin with.

In an ideal society, everyone should be able to afford to have 14 children at once!


I know some polygamists that would agree with you on this.    :wink:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on February 12, 2009, 09:54:33 pm
If they are all women and hot, can you give them my pm addie plz?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on February 12, 2009, 10:58:03 pm
(http://thevinylvillage.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/clowncar.jpg)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on February 13, 2009, 02:37:40 am
If they are all women and hot, can you give them my pm addie plz?


Trust me...  I live within a 45 minute drive of Hildale, Utah and Colorado City, Arizona.  They're both entirely polygamist communities. The women are very unattractive and live a strange lifestyle. Weird people those polygs.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: ytowndan on February 13, 2009, 03:00:41 am
If they are all women and hot, can you give them my pm addie plz?



Trust me...  I live within a 45 minute drive of Hildale, Utah and Colorado City, Arizona.  They're both entirely polygamist communities. The women are very unattractive and live a strange lifestyle. Weird people those polygs.



(http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/because-if-you-dont-hit-it-some-prophet-will.jpg)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on February 13, 2009, 03:32:48 am
The sad thing about that image, Dan, is that it's true.  The young girls raised in those communities are usually having children before they reach the age of 16 to 17.  It's a strange place out there.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: ytowndan on February 13, 2009, 03:50:58 am
The sad thing about that image, Dan, is that it's true.  The young girls raised in those communities are usually having children before they reach the age of 16 to 17.  It's a strange place out there.


The only thing I know about that lifestyle is what I see on Big Love.   :-D  So, I don't really know what it's actually like.  But, if you watch the show, I would imagine that the "compound lifestyles" they show in it is pretty accurate.   
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: redrum on February 13, 2009, 07:59:07 am
plane crash near buffalo.
paging tehdead, you alright dude?

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Fiery plane crash in upstate NY kills 49 people

CLARENCE, N.Y. – A commuter plane "basically dove" into a house while coming in for a landing, sparking a fiery explosion that killed all 48 people on board and one person on the ground, an emergency official said Friday.

It was the first fatal crash of a commercial airliner in the U.S. in 2 1/2 years.

Witnesses heard the twin turboprop aircraft sputtering before it went down in light snow and fog around 10:20 p.m. Thursday. Flames silhouetted the shattered home after Continental Connection Flight 3407 plummeted into it around about five miles from Buffalo Niagara International Airport.

"The whole sky was lit up orange," said Bob Dworak, who lives less than a mile from the crash site. "All the sudden, there was a big bang, and the house shook."

The 74-seat Q400 Bombardier aircraft, operated by Colgan Air, was flying from Newark Liberty International Airport in New Jersey and preparing to land at Buffalo Niagara International Airport.

FBI spokesman Richard Kolko said there is "no indication of any security related event" that brought the plane down.

Six hours after the crash, the task of retrieving remains had not yet begun.

"It's still a hot scene," Clarence emergency control director Dave Bissonette said. "The fuselage lies right on the footprint of the house."

Prior to the crash, the voice of a female pilot on Continental Flight 3407 could be heard communicating with air traffic controllers, according to a recording of the Buffalo air traffic control's radio messages shortly before the crash captured by the Web site [url]http://www.liveatc.net[/url]. Neither the controller nor the pilot showed any concerns that anything is out of the ordinary as the airplane is asked to fly at 2,300 feet. A minute later, the controller tries to contact the plane but hears no response. After a pause, he tries to contact the plane again.

Eventually he tells an unidentified listener to contact authorities on the ground in the Clarence area.

"You need to find if anything is on the ground," the controller says. "All I can tell you is the aircraft is over the marker (landing beacon), and we're not talking to them now."

After the crash, at least two pilots are heard saying they have been picking up ice on their wings.

"We've been getting ice since 20 miles south of the airport," one says.

The National Transportation Safety Board said it was sending a team of crash investigators to Buffalo early Friday. A spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security in Washington, said there was no indication terrorism was involved.

"All indications are that this was an air-safety event," said spokeswoman Amy Kudwa.

While residents of the neighborhood where the plane went down were used to planes rumbling overhead, witnesses said this one sounded louder than usual, sputtered and made some odd noises.

After hearing the crash, Dworak drove over to take a look, and "all we were seeing was 50 to 100 foot flames and a pile of rubble on the ground. It looked like the house just got destroyed the instant it got hit."

Witness Tony Tatro said he saw the plane flying low and knew it was in trouble.

"It was not spiraling at all. The left wing was a little low," he told WGRZ-TV.

One person in the home was killed, and two others inside were able to escape with minor injuires. Twelve homes were evacuated near the crash site. The tail or part of a wing was visible through flames and thick smoke that engulfed the scene.

Erie County Executive Chris Collins said the plane was carrying 5,000 pounds of fuel and apparently exploded on impact.

Firefighters got as close to the plane as they could, he said. "They were shouting out to see if there were any survivors on the plane. Truly a very heroic effort, but there were no survivors."

It was the first fatal crash of a commercial airliner in the United States since Aug. 27, 2006, when 49 people were killed after a Comair jetliner took off from a Lexington, Ky., runway that was too short.

Houston-based Continental Airlines issued a statement saying that preliminary information showed the plane carried 44 passengers and a crew of four.

About 30 relatives and others who arrived at the airport in the overnight hours were escorted into a private area and then taken by bus to a senior citizens center in the neighboring town of Cheektowaga, where counselors and representatives from Continental waited to help.

"At this time, the full resources of Colgan Air's accident response team are being mobilized and will be devoted to cooperating with all authorities responding to the accident and to contacting family members and providing assistance to them," the statement said.

"Continental extends its deepest sympathy to the family members and loved ones of those involved in this accident," said Larry Kellner, chairman and CEO of Continental Airlines, in a later statement. "Our thoughts and prayers are with all of the family members and loved ones of those involved in the flight 3407 tragedy."

Manassas, Va.-based Colgan Air said in a statement that airline personnel and local authorities were working to confirm the number of people on board and their identities.

As family members of the victims trickled in to the airport in the overnight hours, they were escorted by airport personnel to a private area.

Chris Kausner, believing his sister was on the plane, rushed to a hastily established command center after calling his vacationing mother in Florida to break the news.

"To tell you the truth, I heard my mother make a noise on the phone that I've never heard before. So not good, not good," he told reporters.

Clarence is a growing eastern suburb of Buffalo, largely residential but with rural stretches. The crash site is a street of older, single-family homes which apparently back up to wooded area.

While the fire was contained, smoke still billowed over the scene about four hours later. Houses in the neighborhood are only about 20-25 feet apart.

"The fact that the damage is limited to the one residence is really amazing," said state police spokeswoman Rebecca Gibbons.

The crash came less than a month after a US Airways pilot guided his crippled plane to a landing in the Hudson River off Manhattan, saving the lives of all 155 people aboard. Birds had apparently disabled both its engines.

On Dec. 20, a Continental Airlines plane veered off a runway and slid into a snowy field at the Denver airport, injuring 38 people.

Continental's release said relatives and friends of those on Flight 3407 who wanted to give or receive information about those on board could telephone a special family assistance number, 1-800-621-3263.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090213/ap_on_re_us/plane_into_home
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Phunkaddict on February 13, 2009, 09:10:49 am
That is a sad story. My heart goes out to those involved and their families and friends.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: ytowndan on February 17, 2009, 04:27:53 pm
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10165604-38.html (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10165604-38.html)

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Some charges dropped against The Pirate Bay



On the first day of the long-awaited criminal trial involving The Pirate Bay file-sharing site, Swedish prosecutors unexpectedly dropped half of the charges against the site's operators.

Prosecutors previously accused the defendants, who have insisted that their Web site is legal under Swedish law, of assisting in the distribution of copyrighted material. The amended charges focus on the act of making the material available.

This represents a preliminary win for defendants Frederik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, Peter Sunde Kolmsioppi, and Carl Lundstorm, who have argued that no infringing content is located on their servers. Instead, The Pirate Bay acts as a search engine that points visitors to files--many of which are Hollywood films, music videos, and commercial software--available through the BitTorrent protocol.

"A sensation," said defense attorney Per Samuelsson, according to The Local news site in Sweden. "It is very rare that you win half the case after one and a half days, and it is clear that the prosecutor has been deeply affected by what we said yesterday."

The four men behind the file-sharing site face up to two years in prison and a fine of 1.2 million kronor ($143,529) if convicted. A civil claim brought by a group of the word's largest media companies is also being heard with the prosecution. The plaintiffs--Warner Bros. Entertainment, MGM Pictures, Columbia Pictures Industries, Twentieth Century Fox Film, Sony BMG, Universal, and EMI--seek 120 million kronor ($14.3 million) in compensation for lost revenues.

The IFPI association that represents the recording industry (the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry) said in a statement that the dismissed charges will have little effect.

Peter Danowsky, legal counsel for the music companies, said: "It's a largely technical issue that changes nothing in terms of our compensation claims and has no bearing whatsoever on the main case against The Pirate Bay. In fact, it simplifies the prosecutor's case by allowing him to focus on the main issue, which is the making available of copyrighted works."

For the rest of the first day of the trial, prosecutor Hċkan Roswall described how Internet e-mail works and offered details about the computer hardware seized in a 2006 raid, according to TorrentFreak.com. The trial resumes on Wednesday, with the defense attorneys having a chance to respond on Thursday.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on February 17, 2009, 07:17:01 pm
The sad thing about that image, Dan, is that it's true.  The young girls raised in those communities are usually having children before they reach the age of 16 to 17.  It's a strange place out there.



The only thing I know about that lifestyle is what I see on Big Love.   :-D  So, I don't really know what it's actually like.  But, if you watch the show, I would imagine that the "compound lifestyles" they show in it is pretty accurate.   



Well...  it depends on which side of the border you live.  The "compounds" are on the Utah side and the polygamists that dress like you and I and forgo the "compound lifestyles" live on the Arizona side.  Seriously, it's weird.  As far as "Big Love" is concerned there are a lot of similarities from what I've heard.  But then again I'm not a polygamist and couldn't give you an honest answer. 

Hell, having one wife is a pain in the ass as it is.  I couldn't imagine having 5 or 6.  (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/dead_ahead/buck2.gif)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on February 17, 2009, 08:52:41 pm
The sad thing about that image, Dan, is that it's true.  The young girls raised in those communities are usually having children before they reach the age of 16 to 17.  It's a strange place out there.



The only thing I know about that lifestyle is what I see on Big Love.   :-D  So, I don't really know what it's actually like.  But, if you watch the show, I would imagine that the "compound lifestyles" they show in it is pretty accurate.   



Well...  it depends on which side of the border you live.  The "compounds" are on the Utah side and the polygamists that dress like you and I and forgo the "compound lifestyles" live on the Arizona side.  Seriously, it's weird.  As far as "Big Love" is concerned there are a lot of similarities from what I've heard.  But then again I'm not a polygamist and couldn't give you an honest answer. 

Hell, having one wife is a pain in the ass as it is.  I couldn't imagine having 5 or 6.  ([url]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/dead_ahead/buck2.gif[/url])



I was watching Big Love with my buddy and his wife Sunday.  naturally we talked about what a handful one wife is let alone several.
she looked over to him:  "would you want another one of me, honey?"
he paused for a second and replied:  "I couldn't even begin to answer that question"  :lol: :lol:

I gave him full marks for that one.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: kellerb on February 17, 2009, 11:33:30 pm
The sad thing about that image, Dan, is that it's true.  The young girls raised in those communities are usually having children before they reach the age of 16 to 17.  It's a strange place out there.



The only thing I know about that lifestyle is what I see on Big Love.   :-D  So, I don't really know what it's actually like.  But, if you watch the show, I would imagine that the "compound lifestyles" they show in it is pretty accurate.   



Well...  it depends on which side of the border you live.  The "compounds" are on the Utah side and the polygamists that dress like you and I and forgo the "compound lifestyles" live on the Arizona side.  Seriously, it's weird.  As far as "Big Love" is concerned there are a lot of similarities from what I've heard.  But then again I'm not a polygamist and couldn't give you an honest answer. 

Hell, having one wife is a pain in the ass as it is.  I couldn't imagine having 5 or 6.  ([url]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/dead_ahead/buck2.gif[/url])



I was watching Big Love with my buddy and his wife Sunday.  naturally we talked about what a handful one wife is let alone several.
she looked over to him:  "would you want another one of me, honey?"
he paused for a second and replied:  "I couldn't even begin to answer that question"  :lol: :lol:

I gave him full marks for that one.



The reason he couldn't answer honestly is because the answer is NO
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on February 18, 2009, 10:31:49 am
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29242028/?GT1=43001

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Woman wields wedgie to subdue suspect
Technician says she saw man trying to break into a co-worker’s car

SALT LAKE CITY - It took a wedgie and a headlock to pin down a man suspected of breaking into a car.

Yvonne Morris, a technician at the Brickyard Animal Hospital, said she chased a man who broke into a co-worker's car, but he kept squirming away from her.

The third time, Morris grabbed hold of the man's boxer shorts and pulled. Salt Lake City police said she then put a headlock on the man until help could arrive.

The man was booked into the Salt Lake County jail on suspicion of vehicle burglary, possession of stolen property and outstanding warrants.



AWESOME!!!!

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on February 18, 2009, 10:48:24 am
Must have been an Atomic Wedgie.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: khalpin on February 19, 2009, 12:43:23 pm
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A man in Washington state made sure a pair of burglars didn't get away with his three flat-screen televisions -- he moved their getaway car.

Patrick Rosario was in the basement of his Bellevue home on Tuesday when he heard the burglars upstairs.

The Seattle Times said the 32-year-old Rosario, who had been laid off from his job as a Washington Mutual manager, called 911 while he sneaked out of the house.

He saw a white van sitting in front of his house with the motor running and the keys in the ignition, and he got in and drove it to a friend's house.

Police said the burglars left the televisions, a laptop computer and a jewelry box by the door and took off on foot.

The sheriff's office said no arrests had been made.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on February 19, 2009, 12:44:55 pm
 :lol:  Quick thinking!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on February 19, 2009, 12:45:07 pm
Clever.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on February 20, 2009, 12:50:20 pm
...NIN new business model?
This is friggin hilarious
http://mashable.com/2009/02/20/josh-freese-album-promotion/
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: redrum on February 20, 2009, 01:15:00 pm
...NIN new business model?
This is friggin hilarious
[url]http://mashable.com/2009/02/20/josh-freese-album-promotion/[/url]




soooo... which one you gonna spring for?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on February 20, 2009, 01:22:15 pm
The Tijauana trip sounds sweet.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on February 20, 2009, 01:46:25 pm
The Tijauana trip sounds sweet.


The things are too illegal to mention in the promotion.   :lol:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on February 21, 2009, 11:45:10 am
...NIN new business model?
This is friggin hilarious
[url]http://mashable.com/2009/02/20/josh-freese-album-promotion/[/url]




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Take shrooms and cruise Hollywood in Danny from Tool’s Lamborghini.




Oh hell yes!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: PhishPhan on February 21, 2009, 07:52:00 pm
I would have just taken the van, they can keep the television...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on February 25, 2009, 10:29:46 am
 :lol:
World Superhero Registry
...glad to know someones watching over us...
http://tinyurl.com/956s6a
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: khalpin on February 25, 2009, 10:44:37 am
That's great.  Angle Grinder Man  :lol:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on February 25, 2009, 10:46:36 am
:lol:
World Superhero Registry
...glad to know someones watching over us...
[url]http://tinyurl.com/956s6a[/url]




There is a crime fighting unit in Michigan!  Glad to know there are hometown superheroes to save me... :lol:


edit to add:  any 'paugers on there?  Don't be shy...you can tell us.  We won't laugh.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on February 25, 2009, 10:56:59 am
Wow.
That website is so... 1998.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on February 25, 2009, 08:38:18 pm
:lol:
World Superhero Registry
...glad to know someones watching over us...
[url]http://tinyurl.com/956s6a[/url]




Did you see the article in Dec.'s issue of Rolling Stone?

Classic.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on February 26, 2009, 09:59:57 am
:lol:
World Superhero Registry
...glad to know someones watching over us...
[url]http://tinyurl.com/956s6a[/url]




Did you see the article in Dec.'s issue of Rolling Stone?

Classic.



That article was ridiculous.  Some of the captions were so funny- the picture of the two superheroes in front of their fortress of solitude: their house.

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Master Legend has no full-time job, and his wife divorced him.  "She never believed in what I did."

The costume is the source of his power: without it, you're just another do-gooder schmuck.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on February 27, 2009, 12:57:29 pm
 :lol:

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[url]http://blogs.app.com/saywhat/2009/02/26/man-28-dies-from-viagra-overdose-during-orgy/[/url]



Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on February 27, 2009, 01:01:44 pm
:lol:

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[url]http://blogs.app.com/saywhat/2009/02/26/man-28-dies-from-viagra-overdose-during-orgy/[/url]







The funniest part about that article is some of the comments after it.   :lol:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on March 13, 2009, 12:48:31 pm
Hen adopts puppies
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_3235444.html?menu=

A hen in China has reportedly adopted two orphaned puppy dogs after their mother died.

Owner Cao Fengying, of Majiaqiao village, Jiashan town, says the hen was best friends with the puppy's mother.  But the dog was poisoned just ten days after giving birth to puppies, reports Today Morning.  Cao said: "The hen and the dog had been friends for two years. They would never fight but just play together.  "I thought the puppies would die after their mother went but the next morning I discovered that the puppies had gone missing.  "Then I heard the hen clucking in her coop. I looked over and saw that the little puppies were underneath the hen."  The hen now looks after her adopted children, defending them if anyone approaches and letting them eat first at meal times.

"Once I even saw the hen fight off several other chickens which were trying to steal the puppies' food," added Cao.

Villagers say they can't understand why a hen would be so protective of two puppies - but Cao believes she is simply doing right by her late friend.

(http://www.ananova.com/images/web/1485816.jpg)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on March 30, 2009, 08:15:33 am
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0327092sham1.html

ShamWow Guy In Slap, Chop Bust

TV pitchman battered hooker in South Beach hotel room brawl

MARCH 27--Meet Vince Shlomi. He's probably better known to you as the ShamWow Guy, the ubiquitous television pitchman who has been phenomenally successful peddling absorbent towels and food choppers. Shlomi, 44, was arrested last month on a felony battery charge following a violent confrontation with a prostitute in his South Beach hotel room.
(Click the link for more info)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on March 30, 2009, 11:47:04 am
 :lol:

nice find RJ.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on March 30, 2009, 11:51:20 am
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/Bozy/Epic%20Album/1234041000748.jpg)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on March 30, 2009, 12:03:43 pm
LOL!!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on April 03, 2009, 09:05:58 pm
I debated internally a moment before posting, but wtf ...

Marmar, I hope you're safe ...

Anyone want to weigh in on the shooting in Binghamton?

I understand if not. That's some plain tragic shit right there.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: khalpin on April 09, 2009, 01:42:14 pm
Wasn't sure if this would go in the youtube thread or maybe tack it onto that Joaquin Phoenix thread, but Billy Bob is either pulling a prank or he's wasted.  [edit: I don't he's wasted.  More like...mentally unbalanced]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJWS6qyy7bw[/youtube]
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 09, 2009, 01:58:38 pm
Wow.  Could he have been any more unpleasant to interview?

Im going to go with "mentally unbalanced"
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on April 09, 2009, 02:09:28 pm
this is too damn funny (Britney Spears & Phish content)
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/04/09/britney-spears-delays-vancouver-concert-due-to-marijuana-smoke/
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: khalpin on April 09, 2009, 02:17:28 pm
this is too damn funny (Britney Spears & Phish content)
[url]http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/04/09/britney-spears-delays-vancouver-concert-due-to-marijuana-smoke/[/url]


Hilarious.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 09, 2009, 02:27:33 pm
this is too damn funny (Britney Spears & Phish content)
[url]http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/04/09/britney-spears-delays-vancouver-concert-due-to-marijuana-smoke/[/url]



That's hilarious. I didn't know people even smoked weed @ Britney Spears concerts  :lol:

gotta love this quote

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“We were concerned for the lighting guys and everyone else working on the show. If one of those guys up above got dizzy or sick from all that marijuana smoke… It wouldn’t have been pretty.”


 :lol: :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: redrum on April 09, 2009, 02:55:13 pm
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did you guys really need a doobie to get through “Toxic”?


uuuum, yes...

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this was a Britney Spears concert, not a Phish show


exactly.
i could go sober to Phish.

Britney on the other hand, ima be gettin FUCKED up to tolerate her.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 09, 2009, 04:05:29 pm
Is this the appropriate place to admit that there was a short period in my life where I enjoyed the song "Toxic"?



although, I suppose there is really no appropriate place to admit a thing like that..  :oops:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on April 09, 2009, 04:07:43 pm
Is this the appropriate place to admit that there was a short period in my life where I enjoyed the song "Toxic"?



although, I suppose there is really no appropriate place to admit a thing like that..  :oops:

Banned for one week
No soup for you!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 09, 2009, 04:13:23 pm
Is this the appropriate place to admit that there was a short period in my life where I enjoyed the song "Toxic"?



although, I suppose there is really no appropriate place to admit a thing like that..  :oops:

Banned for one week
No soup for you!


DAMN SOUP NAZIS !!!!  :evil:  :lol:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: redrum on April 09, 2009, 04:15:14 pm
Is this the appropriate place to admit that there was a short period in my life where I enjoyed the song "Toxic"?



although, I suppose there is really no appropriate place to admit a thing like that..  :oops:


a short period in your life?!  :lol:
that song came out like last year!  :lol:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: whyweigh4.5 on April 09, 2009, 04:18:18 pm
Britney says don't smoke weed

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/04/09/britney-spears-delays-vancouver-concert-due-to-marijuana-smoke/
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on April 09, 2009, 04:33:27 pm
Britney says don't smoke weed

[url]http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/04/09/britney-spears-delays-vancouver-concert-due-to-marijuana-smoke/[/url]




I know it was a whole page back and all, but....
this is too damn funny (Britney Spears & Phish content)
[url]http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/04/09/britney-spears-delays-vancouver-concert-due-to-marijuana-smoke/[/url]

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Hicks on April 09, 2009, 04:35:23 pm
Is this the appropriate place to admit that there was a short period in my life where I enjoyed the song "Toxic"?



although, I suppose there is really no appropriate place to admit a thing like that..  :oops:


a short period in your life?!  :lol:
that song came out like last year!  :lol:


And by last year you mean 2005 or some shit.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 09, 2009, 04:37:51 pm
Is this the appropriate place to admit that there was a short period in my life where I enjoyed the song "Toxic"?



although, I suppose there is really no appropriate place to admit a thing like that..  :oops:


a short period in your life?!  :lol:
that song came out like last year!  :lol:


In my (lame) defense, that song came out in 2003.

It's normal for a high school freshman boy to like Britney Spears' music right?.......right?

I mean, it's not like I got beat up or shoved in lockers for it.....i swear........ :wink:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: whyweigh4.5 on April 09, 2009, 04:40:21 pm
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q200/s0k0lnik0v/oh-snap.jpg?t=1239309681)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: kellerb on April 09, 2009, 06:31:01 pm
Regardless, britney is correct in that we need to rock out with our cocks out.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 09, 2009, 07:00:18 pm
Regardless, britney is correct in that we need to rock out with our cocks out.


Finally, something we can all agree upon (besides Phish)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 09, 2009, 07:01:15 pm
I'd rather the ladies tough it out with their muffs out!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: redrum on April 09, 2009, 07:07:37 pm
Is this the appropriate place to admit that there was a short period in my life where I enjoyed the song "Toxic"?



although, I suppose there is really no appropriate place to admit a thing like that..  :oops:


a short period in your life?!  :lol:
that song came out like last year!  :lol:


In my (lame) defense, that song came out in 2003.

It's normal for a high school freshman boy to like Britney Spears' music right?.......right?

I mean, it's not like I got beat up or shoved in lockers for it.....i swear........ :wink:


here, this might help your "lame defense":

i was at a wedding that the bride requested that the live band learn Toxic.
it was actually really interesting to see it performed live.
it gave me totally different take on the tune.


edit:
and i guess i've known you guys long enough now to let you in on a little secret.
guess who went to see Britney live at the Fleet Center?
**for free with counterfit tickets in MY defense**
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 09, 2009, 07:14:42 pm
I'll one up you dude.

I went to New Kids On The Block's reunion tour last November.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on April 09, 2009, 07:28:56 pm
I'll one up you dude.

I went to New Kids On The Block's reunion tour last November.

Thats pretty rough.
But, did you see them back in the Eighties?


Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 09, 2009, 07:42:04 pm
I'll one up you dude.

I went to New Kids On The Block's reunion tour last November.

Thats pretty rough.
But, did you see them back in the Eighties?





No.  I wanted to tho...

 :-o
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 09, 2009, 07:43:57 pm
phewwww, so I'm not the only one!  :lol:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 09, 2009, 07:45:57 pm
Is this the appropriate place to admit that there was a short period in my life where I enjoyed the song "Toxic"?



although, I suppose there is really no appropriate place to admit a thing like that..  :oops:


a short period in your life?!  :lol:
that song came out like last year!  :lol:


In my (lame) defense, that song came out in 2003.

It's normal for a high school freshman boy to like Britney Spears' music right?.......right?

I mean, it's not like I got beat up or shoved in lockers for it.....i swear........ :wink:


here, this might help your "lame defense":

i was at a wedding that the bride requested that the live band learn Toxic.
it was actually really interesting to see it performed live.
it gave me totally different take on the tune.


edit:
and i guess i've known you guys long enough now to let you in on a little secret.
guess who went to see Britney live at the Fleet Center?
**for free with counterfit tickets in MY defense**


Wait, so you wanted to go SO badly you had to make fake tickets?  :wink:

Well, how was it?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: birdman on April 09, 2009, 07:51:26 pm
Is this the appropriate place to admit that there was a short period in my life where I enjoyed the song "Toxic"?



although, I suppose there is really no appropriate place to admit a thing like that..  :oops:


a short period in your life?!  :lol:
that song came out like last year!  :lol:


In my (lame) defense, that song came out in 2003.

It's normal for a high school freshman boy to like Britney Spears' music right?.......right?

I mean, it's not like I got beat up or shoved in lockers for it.....i swear........ :wink:


here, this might help your "lame defense":

i was at a wedding that the bride requested that the live band learn Toxic.
it was actually really interesting to see it performed live.
it gave me totally different take on the tune.


edit:
and i guess i've known you guys long enough now to let you in on a little secret.
guess who went to see Britney live at the Fleet Center?
**for free with counterfit tickets in MY defense**


Wait, so you wanted to go SO badly you had to make fake tickets?  :wink:

Well, how was it?


Yeah, and where is the *official* Brittney pic/vid thread?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on April 09, 2009, 08:02:03 pm
Is this the appropriate place to admit that there was a short period in my life where I enjoyed the song "Toxic"?



although, I suppose there is really no appropriate place to admit a thing like that..  :oops:



a short period in your life?!  :lol:
that song came out like last year!  :lol:



In my (lame) defense, that song came out in 2003.

It's normal for a high school freshman boy to like Britney Spears' music right?.......right?

I mean, it's not like I got beat up or shoved in lockers for it.....i swear........ :wink:



here, this might help your "lame defense":

i was at a wedding that the bride requested that the live band learn Toxic.
it was actually really interesting to see it performed live.
it gave me totally different take on the tune.


edit:
and i guess i've known you guys long enough now to let you in on a little secret.
guess who went to see Britney live at the Fleet Center?
**for free with counterfit tickets in MY defense**



Wait, so you wanted to go SO badly you had to make fake tickets?  :wink:

Well, how was it?



Yeah, and where is the *official* Brittney pic/vid thread?



http://britneycrotch.org/
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 09, 2009, 08:10:27 pm
aaaahahahahahahaha  :clap:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: redrum on April 09, 2009, 08:20:08 pm
Wait, so you wanted to go SO badly you had to make fake tickets?  :wink:

Well, how was it?


i thought you'd never ask...  :wink:

it was when i lived on Symphony Rd in boston, so
1. it wasn't far away

my girlfriend at the time had a friend that worked at a club that shut down (Toad's Place maybe?).
she worked at the ticket window and printed people's TM tix.

anyway, the club closed, she lost her job so she grabbed a HUGE roll of blank TM tix.
they went online, got the image, and printed 4 tix to Brit @ the Fleet.

i wasn't gonna be suprised if they didn't scan but my roomate, girl & her friend all headed over to the show.
we got there a few minutes after the show started, they scanned our tix and let us in.
pretty crazy..


how was it you ask?

it was Britney - it was HAWWT.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 09, 2009, 08:41:07 pm
The Mark Ronson produced cover of "Toxic" feat. Tiggers & ODB (from Ronson's album, "Version") is pretty good, actually.

It benefits greatly from the absence of Brittany Spears and the presence of talent and ODB.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 09, 2009, 08:42:50 pm
redrum, how long ago did you live on Symphony?  That's SO close to where i live now...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: PhishPhan on April 09, 2009, 09:55:37 pm
Quote
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090407/od_nm/us_germany_cat;_ylt=At_dSVV5b5gSCAMdZae3iIntiBIF[/url]

BERLIN (Reuters) – A cat named Felix was found alive and well beneath the rubble of a six-storey building in Cologne that collapsed five weeks ago, the fire brigade in German city said Tuesday. The 12-year-old cat was in surprisingly good health, authorities said. He was found beneath the city archives building that collapsed on March 3. Rescue workers were clearing away the rubble from the ruins, in which two people were killed, when they spotted a pair of small paws. "The men lifted some concrete blocks when suddenly a little cat came to light," said Dietmar Paust, fire brigade spokesman.



How many times can you make a joke about cats having nine lives...Actually, a lot...

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: whyweigh4.5 on April 09, 2009, 10:00:33 pm
Umphreys make a wish
http://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrack/umphreys-mcgee-make-a-wish/
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: PhishPhan on April 09, 2009, 10:04:24 pm
I've always wanted the opportunity to make someone really happy. And no, someone asking for a miracle on their birthday offering a monkey does not count.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: redrum on April 09, 2009, 11:18:02 pm
redrum, how long ago did you live on Symphony?  That's SO close to where i live now...


i lived there from 97 to 04.
i'm OG.
Title: Re: have you heard about...the crazy lady that likes to swim with polar bears?
Post by: redrum on April 12, 2009, 08:27:37 am
 :-D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2pzNgjigUs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0pFaQluCZo

HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE!!!

 :banana:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 12, 2009, 02:40:12 pm
 :-o woah!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: ytowndan on April 12, 2009, 02:55:40 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/04/11/polar.bear.attack/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/04/11/polar.bear.attack/index.html)

Quote
A polar bear attacked a woman at Berlin Zoo Friday afternoon after she climbed a fence and jumped into its habitat during feeding time, police said Saturday.



Darwin says we should have let her die. 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on April 15, 2009, 04:34:23 pm
Quote
Maryland Senate Votes for Text Messaging While Driving Ban
This week, the Maryland Senate approved by a 43 to 4 vote a bill banning drivers from text messaging whenever they are operating their motor vehicles. If the bill becomes law, it would make reading, composing, sending, or receiving text messages a misdemeanor crime punishable by a $500 fine. Maryland would also join a growing list of states and jurisdictions, including Virginia and Washington DC, that are banning text messaging—whether on a cell phone, PDA, or IPod Touch or another device—while operating a motor vehicle.

Sending short messages via cell phone or other electronic devices is a bad habit that has grown more popular in recent years—especially among younger, more inexperienced drivers. According to the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety, one of its studies last year found that about 50% of young drivers, ages 18 – 24, text message while driving. The study found that among drivers ages 45 and older, less than 5% engaged in text messaging while operating a motor vehicle.

Text messaging is a type of distracted driving, and like all other forms of distracted driving, including talking on a handheld cellular phone, applying making, or reading the newspaper, can lead to deadly auto accidents. ABC News says that a 2006 study showed that 65% of near-motor vehicle collisions and 80% of auto crashes occur because of distracted driving.

For example, one Maryland child lost her right forearm in a catastrophic bus accident that occurred while the bus driver was texting on his cell phone. 30 people were injured in this Maryland motor vehicle accident. In another traffic accident, a 26-year-old woman died last year in a truck accident when she was struck by a tractor-trailer while the truck driver had been texting.

These kinds of catastrophic motor vehicle collisions could have been avoided if the drivers had not been engaged in distracted driving.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: kellerb on April 15, 2009, 05:17:34 pm
Quote
If the bill becomes law, it would make reading, composing, sending, or receiving text messages a misdemeanor crime punishable by a $500 fine. Maryland would also join a growing list of states and jurisdictions, including Virginia and Washington DC, that are banning text messaging—whether on a cell phone, PDA, or IPod Touch or another device—while operating a motor vehicle.


So if someone sends you a text while you're driving, you can be fined $500? Or do they have to catch you looking at the message?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 15, 2009, 05:19:58 pm
How will they prove that you were in fact texting or reading a message?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: kellerb on April 15, 2009, 06:03:24 pm
How will they prove that you were in fact texting or reading a message?

Same way they prove you weren't wearing your seatbelt.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 15, 2009, 06:05:28 pm
How will they prove that you were in fact texting or reading a message?

Same way they prove you weren't wearing your seatbelt.


Usually they prove that by asking for your license and saying "oh, you aren't wearing your seatbelt?".

I have a hard time believing that you are going to be texting while you wait for the officer to come up to the car to ask for your license.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on April 15, 2009, 07:23:30 pm
I assume you could be pulled over if the officer saw you texting... passing on the interstate, eg.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 15, 2009, 07:27:11 pm
If an officer of the law notices me texting on the damn interstate, he needs to spend more time watching the road!

 :samurai:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on April 16, 2009, 03:33:57 pm
Susan Boyle. The dodgy 47 year old woman from a small village in England that absolutely floored the judges on 'Britain's Got Talent' (aka, American Idol in the states). If you haven't, you should.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IWv8QZY[/youtube]
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 17, 2009, 12:21:54 pm
Chick can sing.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Phishy69 on April 17, 2009, 01:39:50 pm
Susan Boyle. The dodgy 47 year old woman from a small village in England that absolutely floored the judges on 'Britain's Got Talent' (aka, American Idol in the states). If you haven't, you should.


[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IWv8QZY[/url][/youtube]


Saw that yesterday.  I loved how she floored the judges.  Probably the thrill of her life.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: whyweigh4.5 on April 17, 2009, 01:41:37 pm
finally... I get to do this

http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=6924.msg248683#msg248683
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: goodabouthood on April 17, 2009, 01:45:58 pm
holy crap...was not expecting that voice out of that lady. Amazing.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on April 17, 2009, 01:52:20 pm
finally... I get to do this

[url]http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=6924.msg248683#msg248683[/url]



 :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 22, 2009, 07:41:40 am
http://www.wtop.com/?sid=1657033&nid=25
Quote
The acting head of Freddie Mac, David Kellerman, apparently committed suicide at his Reston home, Fairfax County Police tell WTOP.



WTOP is the DC area all news radio station.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: mirthbeatenworker on April 22, 2009, 08:11:44 am
[url]http://www.wtop.com/?sid=1657033&nid=25[/url]
Quote
The acting head of Freddie Mac, David Kellerman, apparently committed suicide at his Reston home, Fairfax County Police tell WTOP.



WTOP is the DC area all news radio station.




(http://www.sternplanet.com/boards/images/gifs/reservoir_dogs-worlds_smallest_violin.gif)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 22, 2009, 08:24:43 am
I wouldn't suggest that anyone cry for they guy. I think that such an act would suggest that Freddie Mac has some seriously bad news in store for us.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 22, 2009, 06:32:44 pm
[url]http://www.wtop.com/?sid=1657033&nid=25[/url]
Quote
The acting head of Freddie Mac, David Kellerman, apparently committed suicide at his Reston home, Fairfax County Police tell WTOP.



WTOP is the DC area all news radio station.



Dick Morris'd?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 22, 2009, 07:49:00 pm
[url]http://www.wtop.com/?sid=1657033&nid=25[/url]
Quote
The acting head of Freddie Mac, David Kellerman, apparently committed suicide at his Reston home, Fairfax County Police tell WTOP.



WTOP is the DC area all news radio station.



Dick Morris'd?



Nice one.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 23, 2009, 09:37:04 pm
The naked wizard getting tazed at coachella?

http://vimeo.com/4273363

check it out.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 23, 2009, 10:36:31 pm
Crazy stuff.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: cimsm on April 23, 2009, 10:44:04 pm
(http://plorf.com/media/pic-rock-bottom-here.jpg)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 23, 2009, 11:11:40 pm
that actually looks like a decent beer...it could be worse!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 24, 2009, 07:54:23 am
Agreed.
Were it a PBR with a cigarette butt floating in it... THAT would be rock bottom.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: MiamiPhish on April 24, 2009, 08:21:18 am
The naked wizard getting tazed at coachella?

[url]http://vimeo.com/4273363[/url]

check it out.



That's one tough and CRAZY mfer.  I'm almost surprised the people surrounding didn't take any physical action against the cops... as crazy as that would be.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: goodabouthood on April 24, 2009, 09:54:57 am
I was thinking that first...damn, that's just sad, feeling bad for the dude cause he's probably just wasted and being stupid...and then the guy continues resisting, tries getting up to run away and gets tased, and then I was thinking...what a f-ing moron!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 24, 2009, 10:06:38 am
The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.
The cops seem cool at first but I think it's because they don't really want to tackle a naked guy.

But when they pull his hair and grind his face into the turf then lean on his neck and then the knee drop to his chest... THAT was too far.
The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.

I wonder if there was even a complaint about the tripping, naked, wizard or if the cops decided to take him on because they saw a naked, tripping, wizard and had nothing better to do.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: goodabouthood on April 24, 2009, 10:15:10 am
The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.
The cops seem cool at first but I think it's because they don't really want to tackle a naked guy.

But when they pull his hair and grind his face into the turf then lean on his neck and then the knee drop to his chest... THAT was too far.
The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.

I wonder if there was even a complaint about the tripping, naked, wizard or if the cops decided to take him on because they saw a naked, tripping, wizard and had nothing better to do.


Seriously, a tripping naked wizard never hurt anybody. They were just bored.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on April 24, 2009, 12:29:54 pm
The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.


The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.


so who's fault was the communication problem?


how about that fucking tool keep his clothes on next time and everybody is happy.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 24, 2009, 12:45:28 pm
The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.


The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.


so who's fault was the communication problem?


how about that fucking tool keep his clothes on next time and everybody is happy.


good point blatboom.

Although the cops seemed to cross the line, the easiest solution would be to just keep your damn clothes on!!!


Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on April 24, 2009, 01:04:24 pm
The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.


The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.


so who's fault was the communication problem?


how about that fucking tool keep his clothes on next time and everybody is happy.


good point blatboom.

Although the cops seemed to cross the line, the easiest solution would be to just keep your damn clothes on!!!


Cops don't cross the line do they?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Hicks on April 24, 2009, 01:04:48 pm
That's a seriously small wang there.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on April 24, 2009, 01:05:39 pm
The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.


The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.


so who's fault was the communication problem?


how about that fucking tool keep his clothes on next time and everybody is happy.


good point blatboom.

Although the cops seemed to cross the line, the easiest solution would be to just keep your damn clothes on!!!





While I agree in principle, I know from hard personal experience that psychedelics can make wearing your clothes impossible.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: goodabouthood on April 24, 2009, 01:13:21 pm
The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.


The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.


so who's fault was the communication problem?


how about that fucking tool keep his clothes on next time and everybody is happy.


good point blatboom.

Although the cops seemed to cross the line, the easiest solution would be to just keep your damn clothes on!!!





While I agree in principle, I know from hard personal experience that psychedelics can make wearing your clothes impossible.


Even if you're a wizard?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on April 24, 2009, 01:14:45 pm
The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.


The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.


so who's fault was the communication problem?


how about that fucking tool keep his clothes on next time and everybody is happy.


good point blatboom.

Although the cops seemed to cross the line, the easiest solution would be to just keep your damn clothes on!!!


Cops don't cross the line do they?


not in this instance.


The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.


The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.


so who's fault was the communication problem?


how about that fucking tool keep his clothes on next time and everybody is happy.


good point blatboom.

Although the cops seemed to cross the line, the easiest solution would be to just keep your damn clothes on!!!





While I agree in principle, I know from hard personal experience that psychedelics can make wearing your clothes impossible.


can't say as I've ever had the desire to take all my clothes off in public on any psychedelics I've done.

if I did, I guess I would stop doing psychedelics.  problem solved.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on April 24, 2009, 01:16:40 pm
I'm gonna have to agree with blatboom here.  I've done my fair share and never had the desire to take my clothes off.  That said, everyone handles that kind of thing differently. 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Hicks on April 24, 2009, 01:19:39 pm
Done it.  Not around cops though.

That knee to the chest was totally unprovoked btw.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Hicks on April 24, 2009, 01:20:53 pm
I also snapped my glasses in half when I was really getting out there.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on April 24, 2009, 01:23:16 pm
I also snapped my glasses in half when I was really getting out there.


on purpose?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on April 24, 2009, 01:24:16 pm
The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.


The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.


so who's fault was the communication problem?


how about that fucking tool keep his clothes on next time and everybody is happy.


good point blatboom.

Although the cops seemed to cross the line, the easiest solution would be to just keep your damn clothes on!!!


Cops don't cross the line do they?


not in this instance.



Oh really?

I can't believe I'm gonna do this, but...

The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.
The cops seem cool at first but I think it's because they don't really want to tackle a naked guy.

But when they pull his hair and grind his face into the turf then lean on his neck and then the knee drop to his chest... THAT was too far.
The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.



I actually agree with RJ here.  And people wonder why society at large hate cops. I think it started around the time they stopped being policemen and started being "law enforcement" toolbags.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: guyforget on April 24, 2009, 01:26:46 pm
i saw the exact same thing go down at an outdoors techno festival sometime during hiatus, wasnt pretty.  was a lot muddier that day, too.  

basically what i decided that day (with psychedelic help of my own) was that while i didnt really enjoy seeing the naked guy's schlong swinging in the wind, i enjoyed watching him get tackled in the mud and wrestling w/ the cops until they tazed him much less.    right or wrong or whatever, those cops definitely made the situation worse.  
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: goodabouthood on April 24, 2009, 01:27:14 pm
I'm gonna have to agree with blatboom here.  I've done my fair share and never had the desire to take my clothes off.  That said, everyone handles that kind of thing differently. 


I hear what you and blat are saying here, but have you ever been tripping with a wizards robe on? It's kind of embarrassing! So embarrassing that even being completely naked and getting jacked up by cops in the middle of a festival and tased is LESS embarrassing!  :lol:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Hicks on April 24, 2009, 01:28:42 pm
I also snapped my glasses in half when I was really getting out there.


on purpose?


Well my memory of the incident is fairly non-existent, but I'm pretty sure I pulled them off my face and snapped them with my  hands.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on April 24, 2009, 01:29:10 pm
I'm gonna have to agree with blatboom here.  I've done my fair share and never had the desire to take my clothes off.  That said, everyone handles that kind of thing differently. 


I hear what you and blat are saying here, but have you ever been tripping with a wizards robe on? It's kind of embarrassing! So embarrassing that even being completely naked and getting jacked up by cops in the middle of a festival and tased is LESS embarrassing!  :lol:


I only trip while wearing a slanket.  How you like them apples?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on April 24, 2009, 01:30:55 pm
I also snapped my glasses in half when I was really getting out there.


on purpose?


Well my memory of the incident is fairly non-existent, but I'm pretty sure I pulled them off my face and snapped them with my  hands.


Eh, I'm sure it was a good time and worth it in the end.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on April 24, 2009, 01:32:32 pm
I'm gonna have to agree with blatboom here.  I've done my fair share and never had the desire to take my clothes off.  That said, everyone handles that kind of thing differently. 


I hear what you and blat are saying here, but have you ever been tripping with a wizards robe on? It's kind of embarrassing! So embarrassing that even being completely naked and getting jacked up by cops in the middle of a festival and tased is LESS embarrassing!  :lol:


I only trip while wearing a slanket.  How you like them apples?


You'd rather look like a monk instead of a wizard? I can dig that.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: MiamiPhish on April 24, 2009, 01:34:46 pm
Where did the wizard stuff come from?  Did he say that during the video, or have you guys just seen this guy around before?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on April 24, 2009, 01:51:33 pm
The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.


The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.


so who's fault was the communication problem?


how about that fucking tool keep his clothes on next time and everybody is happy.


good point blatboom.

Although the cops seemed to cross the line, the easiest solution would be to just keep your damn clothes on!!!


Cops don't cross the line do they?


not in this instance.



Oh really?

I can't believe I'm gonna do this, but...

The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.
The cops seem cool at first but I think it's because they don't really want to tackle a naked guy.

But when they pull his hair and grind his face into the turf then lean on his neck and then the knee drop to his chest... THAT was too far.
The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.



I actually agree with RJ here.  And people wonder why society at large hate cops. I think it started around the time they stopped being policemen and started being "law enforcement" toolbags.



actually it started when that stupid fuck ignored their friendly requests to put his clothes on and then resisted arrest.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: kellerb on April 24, 2009, 02:11:05 pm
The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.


The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.


so who's fault was the communication problem?


how about that fucking tool keep his clothes on next time and everybody is happy.


good point blatboom.

Although the cops seemed to cross the line, the easiest solution would be to just keep your damn clothes on!!!





While I agree in principle, I know from hard personal experience that psychedelics can make wearing your clothes impossible.


Even if you're a wizard?


My theory is that he cast some sort of invisibility spell to evade the cops, but it only worked on his wizard robes
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on April 24, 2009, 02:12:24 pm
Maybe one of his wizard buddies played a trick on him and told him he WAS wearing clothes and it was extremely fine clothing.
Kind of like a modern day emperor-with-no-clothes sort of trick.

Dude didn't want to look like a n00b wizard and said he could see the clothes and went along with it.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 24, 2009, 02:14:06 pm
No. It started when Wacko The Tiny got himself way dosed.

I'm not really saying that the fuzz shouldn't remove the guy I just think that their frustration in not knowing how to talk to a guy who is high as fuck was expressed through an unnecessary degree of violence.

It's a shame that RockMed was not onsite for that gig. They'd have talked dude down to a rational point and then, if the cops still needed to arrest him for his nudity, it would have gone better.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 24, 2009, 02:19:23 pm
That's a seriously small wang there.

 :lol:

Glad I'm not the only one to have noticed  :-P

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on April 24, 2009, 05:16:35 pm
The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.


The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.


so who's fault was the communication problem?


how about that fucking tool keep his clothes on next time and everybody is happy.


good point blatboom.

Although the cops seemed to cross the line, the easiest solution would be to just keep your damn clothes on!!!


Cops don't cross the line do they?


not in this instance.



Oh really?

I can't believe I'm gonna do this, but...

The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.
The cops seem cool at first but I think it's because they don't really want to tackle a naked guy.

But when they pull his hair and grind his face into the turf then lean on his neck and then the knee drop to his chest... THAT was too far.
The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.



I actually agree with RJ here.  And people wonder why society at large hate cops. I think it started around the time they stopped being policemen and started being "law enforcement" toolbags.



actually it started when that stupid fuck ignored their friendly requests to put his clothes on and then resisted arrest.


Come on, blat. It's too obvious that he's completely out of it. Even after he's been tazed he's still carrying on a conversation. I'll grant the pigs clemency for trying to negotiate with him. But their tactics in dealing with a man who's on psychedelics or ecstasy are totally out of hand. Especially a knee-drop to a man that's clearly NOT fighting with them. You know just as well as I do that different people handle their drugs differently. Some cannot be reasoned with while some can. I'm sorry, but the cops could have handled that in a much better manner.

Agree to disagree?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Hicks on April 24, 2009, 05:19:25 pm
The knee to the chest was totally uncalled for and that's what really set him off.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: kellerb on April 24, 2009, 05:25:46 pm
The knee to the chest was totally uncalled for and that's what really set him off.


Plus, what's a knee to the chest going to do to a wizard? Come on
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on April 24, 2009, 05:45:53 pm
The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.


The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.


so who's fault was the communication problem?


how about that fucking tool keep his clothes on next time and everybody is happy.


good point blatboom.

Although the cops seemed to cross the line, the easiest solution would be to just keep your damn clothes on!!!


Cops don't cross the line do they?


not in this instance.



Oh really?

I can't believe I'm gonna do this, but...

The guy is clearly high as hell on some sort of psychedelic.
The cops seem cool at first but I think it's because they don't really want to tackle a naked guy.

But when they pull his hair and grind his face into the turf then lean on his neck and then the knee drop to his chest... THAT was too far.
The taser was lazy cops who were frustrated by their inability to communicate.



I actually agree with RJ here.  And people wonder why society at large hate cops. I think it started around the time they stopped being policemen and started being "law enforcement" toolbags.



actually it started when that stupid fuck ignored their friendly requests to put his clothes on and then resisted arrest.


Come on, blat. It's too obvious that he's completely out of it. Even after he's been tazed he's still carrying on a conversation. I'll grant the pigs clemency for trying to negotiate with him. But their tactics in dealing with a man who's on psychedelics or ecstasy are totally out of hand. Especially a knee-drop to a man that's clearly NOT fighting with them. You know just as well as I do that different people handle their drugs differently. Some cannot be reasoned with while some can. I'm sorry, but the cops could have handled that in a much better manner.

Agree to disagree?


sure we can agree to disagree.

because he was resisting the entire time.

and again, if there was a communication issue between him and the cops, it's his fault, not theirs.  I have zero sympathy for that clown.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 25, 2009, 08:55:28 pm
That's a seriously small wang there.



I thought he had two bellybuttons.

Edit:  Apparantly he has a myspace!  Add him as yo friend!  http://www.myspace.com/jfelch
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on April 26, 2009, 03:35:01 pm
"I want to sleep in the mushrooms and eat the sun"

Yeah, he wasn't whacked on anything.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: mattstick on April 26, 2009, 03:57:21 pm

I was pretty shocked to see how aggressively they took him down and tazered him.

They should have known they were out of their element and had someone out of uniform, possibly a medic, escort him somewhere else.

I've been to a lot of the Phish festivals and (almost) all the Bonnaroo's and never seen a naked tripping person do anything really that hurt anybody.

Then again I've never seen someone with a penis that small either.   :-o

Don't you think the cops would be suspended or at least sanctioned for that kind of behavior?

 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 26, 2009, 04:49:44 pm
Getting tazed while tripping has got to be an awfully strange/confusing/horrible experience.

I can't even imagine.  :-o
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on April 26, 2009, 06:22:20 pm
Don't you think the cops would be suspended or at least sanctioned for that kind of behavior?



lol.
no.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on April 27, 2009, 11:58:14 am
It's a shame that RockMed was not onsite for that gig. They'd have talked dude down to a rational point and then, if the cops still needed to arrest him for his nudity, it would have gone better.



Medical not criminal issue.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: thechad on April 27, 2009, 02:21:56 pm
It's a shame that RockMed was not onsite for that gig. They'd have talked dude down to a rational point and then, if the cops still needed to arrest him for his nudity, it would have gone better.



Medical not criminal issue.


Having worked stage crew for many shows, I've unfortunately had to tackle more than my fair share of messes-up naked w00ks. (I need to take a shower just thinking about it)  But we never had the cops get involved, it was always a group like RockMed or who ever was working that show.  That's not to say that the cops didn't try to get involved, but we would always keep the guy on the stage, one one of the places that the cops were told they didn't have any authority over, and once the medical group showed up they always went away.  If fact I remember one guy, who wasn't naked but just wearing some sort of skirt and nothing else, jumped on stage started to freak out, we got him taken care of and later in the day was back at the show and apologized to us all for what he did.  Always thought that was pretty cool.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on April 27, 2009, 06:34:44 pm

Don't you think the cops would be suspended or at least sanctioned for that kind of behavior?




Nope. SoCal cops, bro. They could have done much worse too and got away with it. Just the way it is down there. Trust me on this.


And what the hell is up with all of you checking out this guys dick?  :lol: :wink:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: goodabouthood on April 28, 2009, 02:51:38 pm
Glow in the dark beagles?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090428/ap_on_re_as/as_skorea_cloned_dogs
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on April 28, 2009, 03:43:44 pm
I'm telling you, it won't be long before we see human cloning. It's coming and, quite frankly, scares the shit out of me.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: kellerb on April 28, 2009, 04:48:35 pm
I'm telling you, it won't be long before we see human cloning. It's coming and, quite frankly, scares the shit out of me.


meh.  At least they're scientists.  You can be any stupid asshole off the street and start pooping out kids.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on April 28, 2009, 11:21:36 pm
I'm telling you, it won't be long before we see human cloning. It's coming and, quite frankly, scares the shit out of me.


meh.  At least they're scientists.  You can be any stupid asshole off the street and start pooping out kids.


 :lol:  :-D

"pooping out kids"
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: nab on April 29, 2009, 12:50:13 am
I'm telling you, it won't be long before we see human cloning. It's coming and, quite frankly, scares the shit out of me.


meh.  At least they're scientists.  You can be any stupid asshole off the street and start pooping out kids.



Trust me, scientists are no one to trust. :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 29, 2009, 12:56:15 am
I'm telling you, it won't be long before we see human cloning. It's coming and, quite frankly, scares the shit out of me.


meh.  At least they're scientists.  You can be any stupid asshole off the street and start pooping out kids.


 :lol:  :-D

"pooping out kids"


If we didn't have assholes where would the babies come out of?

 :wink:

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on April 29, 2009, 04:34:21 pm
hehehe...

you guys might need to employ this one ;)

http://www.pmsbuddy.com/

 :lol:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: WhatstheUse? on April 29, 2009, 04:52:25 pm
hehehe...

you guys might need to employ this one ;)

[url]http://www.pmsbuddy.com/[/url]

 :lol:



AHAHAHA!!!

That is hilarious!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: kellerb on April 29, 2009, 05:28:23 pm
hehehe...

you guys might need to employ this one ;)

[url]http://www.pmsbuddy.com/[/url]

 :lol:



National Alert Levels
Currently Tracking: 27,223
PMS Starting Today: 966
PMS Starting within 5 days: 4,494
Overall Threat Index (1-4): 2
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: newleaf on April 29, 2009, 10:20:24 pm
Getting tazed while tripping has got to be an awfully strange/confusing/horrible experience.

I can't even imagine.  :-o


saw this and was all like "HOLY FUCK NO"!!!

read no further!!!!  :syf:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Mr Minor on April 30, 2009, 09:38:26 am
hehehe...

you guys might need to employ this one ;)

[url]http://www.pmsbuddy.com/[/url]

 :lol:



National Alert Levels
Currently Tracking: 27,223
PMS Starting Today: 966
PMS Starting within 5 days: 4,494
Overall Threat Index (1-4): 2



 :lol:
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: ytowndan on May 13, 2009, 08:23:18 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-ZLV_sB3Rc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-ZLV_sB3Rc)

Saw this on the news.  I hope they get fired and charged. 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Riİh on May 13, 2009, 08:57:53 pm
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-ZLV_sB3Rc[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-ZLV_sB3Rc[/url])

Saw this on the news.  I hope they get fired and charged. 



Welcome to the Southland, bro. That shit goes down on a daily basis.

Completely uncalled for too. Fucking LAPD are some of the worst at that. The thing that always pisses me off about them is they high 5 each other after pounding someone. Sad.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on May 14, 2009, 08:50:21 am
That's egregious.

There is zero excuse for that sort of thing. That officer should have assault charges filed against him.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on May 14, 2009, 10:28:14 am
Quote
Officials say a suspected drug dealer who led police on a 90 mph chase in Indiana was arrested after he stopped suddenly at a Taco Bell parking lot.

Fort Wayne police Sgt. Mark Walters says 36-year-old Jermaine Askia Cooper told officers he "knew he was going to jail for a while" and wanted to get one last burrito.

Cooper was held without bail on four counts of dealing cocaine, one count of resisting arrest by fleeing and other charges.


My Hero!  Only, I'd want a better burrito than Taco Bell.   :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on May 14, 2009, 10:33:29 am
Quote
Officials say a suspected drug dealer who led police on a 90 mph chase in Indiana was arrested after he stopped suddenly at a Taco Bell parking lot.

Fort Wayne police Sgt. Mark Walters says 36-year-old Jermaine Askia Cooper told officers he "knew he was going to jail for a while" and wanted to get one last burrito.

Cooper was held without bail on four counts of dealing cocaine, one count of resisting arrest by fleeing and other charges.


My Hero!  Only, I'd want a better burrito than Taco Bell.   :-D


Well, sure--but how far was it to the nearest hippie concert-lot?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on May 14, 2009, 10:36:12 am
Quote
Officials say a suspected drug dealer who led police on a 90 mph chase in Indiana was arrested after he stopped suddenly at a Taco Bell parking lot.

Fort Wayne police Sgt. Mark Walters says 36-year-old Jermaine Askia Cooper told officers he "knew he was going to jail for a while" and wanted to get one last burrito.

Cooper was held without bail on four counts of dealing cocaine, one count of resisting arrest by fleeing and other charges.


My Hero!  Only, I'd want a better burrito than Taco Bell.   :-D



MOE'S!!!!   :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on May 14, 2009, 10:40:31 am
Quote
Officials say a suspected drug dealer who led police on a 90 mph chase in Indiana was arrested after he stopped suddenly at a Taco Bell parking lot.

Fort Wayne police Sgt. Mark Walters says 36-year-old Jermaine Askia Cooper told officers he "knew he was going to jail for a while" and wanted to get one last burrito.

Cooper was held without bail on four counts of dealing cocaine, one count of resisting arrest by fleeing and other charges.


My Hero!  Only, I'd want a better burrito than Taco Bell.   :-D



MOE'S!!!!   :-D


 :-D  Yeah, Chipotle would have been an acceptable answer too. 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: thechad on May 14, 2009, 12:21:17 pm
Quote
Officials say a suspected drug dealer who led police on a 90 mph chase in Indiana was arrested after he stopped suddenly at a Taco Bell parking lot.

Fort Wayne police Sgt. Mark Walters says 36-year-old Jermaine Askia Cooper told officers he "knew he was going to jail for a while" and wanted to get one last burrito.

Cooper was held without bail on four counts of dealing cocaine, one count of resisting arrest by fleeing and other charges.


My Hero!  Only, I'd want a better burrito than Taco Bell.   :-D


But was looking for speed of service (I know, I know  :roll:), not quality.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on May 14, 2009, 02:01:37 pm
Quote
Officials say a suspected drug dealer who led police on a 90 mph chase in Indiana was arrested after he stopped suddenly at a Taco Bell parking lot.

Fort Wayne police Sgt. Mark Walters says 36-year-old Jermaine Askia Cooper told officers he "knew he was going to jail for a while" and wanted to get one last burrito.

Cooper was held without bail on four counts of dealing cocaine, one count of resisting arrest by fleeing and other charges.


My Hero!  Only, I'd want a better burrito than Taco Bell.   :-D



MOE'S!!!!   :-D


 :-D  Yeah, Chipotle would have been an acceptable answer too. 


not a fan.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on May 14, 2009, 02:05:41 pm
Quote
Officials say a suspected drug dealer who led police on a 90 mph chase in Indiana was arrested after he stopped suddenly at a Taco Bell parking lot.

Fort Wayne police Sgt. Mark Walters says 36-year-old Jermaine Askia Cooper told officers he "knew he was going to jail for a while" and wanted to get one last burrito.

Cooper was held without bail on four counts of dealing cocaine, one count of resisting arrest by fleeing and other charges.


My Hero!  Only, I'd want a better burrito than Taco Bell.   :-D



MOE'S!!!!   :-D


 :-D  Yeah, Chipotle would have been an acceptable answer too. 


not a fan.


I was waiting for you to chime in!   :-)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on May 14, 2009, 02:06:54 pm
Quote
Officials say a suspected drug dealer who led police on a 90 mph chase in Indiana was arrested after he stopped suddenly at a Taco Bell parking lot.

Fort Wayne police Sgt. Mark Walters says 36-year-old Jermaine Askia Cooper told officers he "knew he was going to jail for a while" and wanted to get one last burrito.

Cooper was held without bail on four counts of dealing cocaine, one count of resisting arrest by fleeing and other charges.


My Hero!  Only, I'd want a better burrito than Taco Bell.   :-D



MOE'S!!!!   :-D


 :-D  Yeah, Chipotle would have been an acceptable answer too. 


not a fan.


I was waiting for you to chime in!   :-)


 :-D
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: whyweigh4.5 on May 24, 2009, 03:26:54 am
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naPgrhX6rIk[/youtube]
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: mirthbeatenworker on May 28, 2009, 08:51:21 am
the wuggie?

(http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/weezsnug215.jpg)

Quote
Are you a fan of nerdy 90s alt rock, staying warm, and 3 a.m. infomercials? Then the Weezer Snuggie-- aka the Wuggie-- is for you. In case you're still one of those pathetic sweater'n'blanket slaves, a Snuggie is the blanket with sleeves. And according to a Rolling Stone report confirmed by Weezer's publicist, Weezer are getting their very own cozy fleece hybrid.

Rivers Cuomo explains: "A Wuggie is basically exactly like a Snuggie, except it says Weezer on it. The people at Snuggie are doing it with us and promoting it with us. It’s a totally legit Snuggie."

Can the Spanket (Spoon Slanket) be that far off? Snoop Duggie? Duggie Fresh? Deerhuggie? Lil Wuggie? Fleet Fuggies? We'll be here all week, folks.




http://pitchfork.com/news/35421-meet-the-wuggie-the-weezer-snuggie/ (http://pitchfork.com/news/35421-meet-the-wuggie-the-weezer-snuggie/)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on May 29, 2009, 08:34:41 am
Google Wave?
http://wave.google.com/


"Google Wave is a new tool for communication and collaboration on the web, coming later this year. Watch the demo video below,"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UyVmITiYQ

(http://wave.google.com/help/wave/images/ss1.gif)
(http://wave.google.com/help/wave/images/ss2.gif)
Kinda smells like google reinvents facebook...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: sunrisevt on June 12, 2009, 07:39:03 pm
...ComfortWipe?  :banana:


http://www.comfortwipe.com/ (http://www.comfortwipe.com/)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Rift on June 21, 2009, 12:33:17 pm
 :lol:

A must have!
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on June 26, 2009, 01:00:48 am
i can't find a link to the article, because it's the July issue of bass player, but i was wandering borders this evening and spotted mike on the cover.
great interview article about him, what he plays, being back in the studio with phish, and the like...

didn't know where else to post this...

Quote
How did the Hampton shows go?

mg- we might have been trying to prove something on the first night. We started with "Fluffhead" and played a lot of other orchestrated material, so it was a little difficult to get the groove going. I was surprised at how much i loved the other two nights. They were the highest-energy concerts i have ever experienced-period.


Quote
... Believe me- after playing ten minutes of memorized music, you're really ready to jam.

Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: goodabouthood on July 02, 2009, 11:09:49 am
This chick auctioning her virginity? The auction is up to $3.7 million!  :shakehead:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/12/natalie-dylan-auctions-of_n_157329.html

(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/58057/original.jpg)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on July 02, 2009, 11:11:58 am
This chick auctioning her virginity? The auction is up to $3.7 million!  :shakehead:

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/12/natalie-dylan-auctions-of_n_157329.html[/url]

([url]http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/58057/original.jpg[/url])



Is it just me or does that look like a terrible photoshop job?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: goodabouthood on July 02, 2009, 11:19:04 am
Upon closer inspection, I think you may be right! Ha, didn't even notice. Anyhow, there's other pics on that link.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Hicks on July 02, 2009, 11:19:13 am
somethin' ain't right there, that's for sure.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: antelope19 on July 02, 2009, 11:22:06 am
Maybe it's just the skin tone of her face vs. the rest of her body.  It just doesn't look right. 
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on July 02, 2009, 11:47:37 am
Old News and I'd swear that's been mentioned here before.
That article is from January.
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: goodabouthood on July 02, 2009, 01:05:54 pm
Old News and I'd swear that's been mentioned here before.
That article is from January.




Maybe, but she was on Tyra Banks YESTERDAY!  :-P

And with a couple hookers from the bunny ranch and this creepy old dude that has the highest bid...

(http://tyrashow.warnerbros.com/4049.jpg)
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on July 02, 2009, 01:52:51 pm
Well, Tyra is the new cutting edge...
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: Hicks on July 02, 2009, 02:08:05 pm
Old News and I'd swear that's been mentioned here before.
That article is from January.




Maybe, but she was on Tyra Banks YESTERDAY!  :-P

And with a couple hookers from the bunny ranch and this creepy old dude that has the highest bid...

([url]http://tyrashow.warnerbros.com/4049.jpg[/url])




Wait, Cindy Wilson from the B-52s works at the bunny ranch now?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: alcoholandcoffeebeans on July 02, 2009, 05:26:42 pm
Maybe it's just the skin tone of her face vs. the rest of her body.  It just doesn't look right. 


that's called a SHITTY MAKEUP JOB...

one more reason i hate that stuff....
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: guyforget on July 06, 2009, 10:34:44 am
The California teacher who sent her students home w/ a bang?  (or a video of herself getting banged?)

http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/07/03/2009-07-03_isabelle_jackson_elementary_teacher_crystal_defanti_includes_sex_clip_in_student.html

California teacher Crystal Defanti sent her students home with a video of class memories, but the DVD contained certain "memories" that were not appropriate for the students to see, Associated Content reports.

The class memories DVD contained six seconds of the teacher having sex on a couch spliced between shots of the children, students at Isabelle Jackson Elementary School in California, sharing their memories in class.

The teacher learned that the sex clip had been included in the DVD when a parent called to let her know.  She then called parents to alert them of the sex clip and ask them to get rid of the DVDs, the Associated Press reports.

"Just destroy them," Elk Grove Unified School District spokeswoman Torrey Johnson said of the DVDs.

The students went to Isabelle Jackson Elementary, a school south of Sacramento, California.

CBS News reports that Defanti will probably not lose her job.




Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: blatboom on July 06, 2009, 10:44:22 am
CBS News reports that Defanti will probably not lose her job.


wait.. what?
Title: Re: have you heard about...?
Post by: rowjimmy on July 06, 2009, 10:50:19 am
CBS News reports that Defanti will probably not lose her job.


wait.. what?
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