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Re: Dear LeBron & Bosh,
« Reply #60 on: July 19, 2010, 10:20:26 am »

"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,"
- Michael Jordan

Ouch!  MJ talkin' smack. 
I don't see why it's that big of a deal.  Look at Ray Bourque leaving the Bruins to get a shot at the cup with Colorado.  I was happy he finally got a chance at that.  If I was a Cleveland fan, I would be pretty upset but loyalty in athletes died a long time ago I feel.  They are usually chasing a title or the dollar.  This type of behavior from Bosh and Lebron doesn't surprise me at all.  It's only going to pique my interest in the NBA this coming season as most will be excited to see them succeed or fail.
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Re: Dear LeBron & Bosh,
« Reply #61 on: July 19, 2010, 10:22:37 am »

Ray Bourque was like 45 years old.  LeBron is 25.

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Re: Dear LeBron & Bosh,
« Reply #62 on: July 19, 2010, 10:24:12 am »
I know, there's obviously a huge diff.  But like others have said, he dedicated 7 yrs to Cleveland, when is enough enough.
Bourque would say 25 yrs  :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
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Re: Dear LeBron & Bosh,
« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2010, 10:40:35 am »
the whole quote>>
I bolded what I think is the crux of Jordan's point and the difference in mentality

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"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team," Jordan said at the American Century Championship, a celebrity golf tournament in Stateline, Nev. "But ... things are different. I can't say that's a bad thing. It's an opportunity these kids have today. In all honesty, I was trying to beat those guys."

That's some counterproductive 'pauging right there.

edit:  Because you actually need to read it all to understand.  Turn your attention span up past 3.49 seconds and you'll be fine.

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Re: Dear LeBron & Bosh,
« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2010, 10:43:41 am »
I read the SI article over the weekend, I "get it" now - LeBron wants to be Magic and not Jordan, he wants to distribute the ball and watch his teammates score and he was never going to have that in Cleveland.  Pat Riley pitched it where D-Wade was Jordan, LeBron was Magic and Bosh was Garnett.

I still think it's a cop-out for LeBron.  The reason these dudes cry when they win a championship is because they struggle with their teams through the tough times, then finally turn a corner win.

Bosh is a skilled player, but isn't big enough to play with the NBA big men, and after watching him in Toronto in the tough times, he seems to give up and get frustrated rather than elevating his game.



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Re: Dear LeBron & Bosh,
« Reply #65 on: July 20, 2010, 03:17:25 am »
I read the SI article over the weekend, I "get it" now - LeBron wants to be Magic and not Jordan, he wants to distribute the ball and watch his teammates score and he was never going to have that in Cleveland.  Pat Riley pitched it where D-Wade was Jordan, LeBron was Magic and Bosh was Garnett.

I still think it's a cop-out for LeBron.  The reason these dudes cry when they win a championship is because they struggle with their teams through the tough times, then finally turn a corner win.

Bosh is a skilled player, but isn't big enough to play with the NBA big men, and after watching him in Toronto in the tough times, he seems to give up and get frustrated rather than elevating his game.






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Re: Dear LeBron & Bosh,
« Reply #66 on: July 20, 2010, 06:36:44 am »
6'10" 230, Dwight Howard is 265.

Bosh is not built like most NBA centres.
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Re: Dear LeBron & Bosh,
« Reply #67 on: July 20, 2010, 01:14:36 pm »
6'10" 230, Dwight Howard is 265.

Bosh is not built like most NBA centres.


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Re: Dear LeBron & Bosh,
« Reply #68 on: July 23, 2010, 10:58:18 am »
ESPN getting slammed by their ombudsman..

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/ESPN-ombudsman-blasts-network-for-LeBron-coverag?urn=top-257681
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ESPN's ombudsman despised the network's 60-minute LeBron James free-agency special as much as everyone else.

In a blistering, 4,600-word column posted Wednesday night on the network's website, Don Ohlmeyer ripped ESPN for airing LeBron's free-agency special and writes that it violated the implicit trust between the network and its viewers. The television producer, who serves as ESPN's independent journalism watchdog, criticized nearly every facet of the now-infamous program, writing that it "pandered to a superstar" and gave in to a "celebration of greed, ego and excess."

"The Decision" earned rebukes for its massive build-up, misleading viewers and blurring the lines between journalism and entertainment, or pretty much the same stuff that outside critics wrote in the wake of the program, which aired two weeks ago.

But Ohlmeyer saved most of his venom for what he perceived to be the biggest of ESPN's violations: paying for a news story. Though money didn't technically change hands between the network and LeBron (proceeds went to charity), Ohlmeyer believes that allowing LeBron and his team to sell an hour's worth of advertising was essentially the same thing. By doing so, ESPN compromised the trust of its viewing audience.

"ESPN should never have traded inventory for access or allowed a subject to select his inquisitor," he writes, "and if that meant losing the exclusive, so be it."

Ohlmeyer didn't blame everyone at the network for the fiasco. He mentions the dichotomy between the newsgathering side of ESPN and the one more focused on entertainment, and scolds the latter for compromising the integrity of the former. Letting LeBron and his team take over the network for 60 minutes was "editorial acquiescence, not an editorial decision."

If anything, Ohlmeyer may have pulled his punches. There was plenty more to criticize about "The Decision," from Michael Wilbon's sycophantic interview with LeBron (which Ohlymeyer backhandedly complimented as "straightforward") to the use of children as props during the program. To Ohlmeyer, though, such matters must have seemed trivial compared to ESPN doing its best impression of The National Enquirer and paying for a scoop.

After the column appeared on ESPN.com, the network released a statement saying "it aggressively seeks and embraces feedback of all kinds."


link to the ombudsman's article
That's some counterproductive 'pauging right there.

edit:  Because you actually need to read it all to understand.  Turn your attention span up past 3.49 seconds and you'll be fine.

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Re: Dear LeBron & Bosh,
« Reply #69 on: July 26, 2010, 10:59:21 am »
ESPN getting slammed by their ombudsman..

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/ESPN-ombudsman-blasts-network-for-LeBron-coverag?urn=top-257681
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ESPN's ombudsman despised the network's 60-minute LeBron James free-agency special as much as everyone else.

In a blistering, 4,600-word column posted Wednesday night on the network's website, Don Ohlmeyer ripped ESPN for airing LeBron's free-agency special and writes that it violated the implicit trust between the network and its viewers. The television producer, who serves as ESPN's independent journalism watchdog, criticized nearly every facet of the now-infamous program, writing that it "pandered to a superstar" and gave in to a "celebration of greed, ego and excess."

"The Decision" earned rebukes for its massive build-up, misleading viewers and blurring the lines between journalism and entertainment, or pretty much the same stuff that outside critics wrote in the wake of the program, which aired two weeks ago.

But Ohlmeyer saved most of his venom for what he perceived to be the biggest of ESPN's violations: paying for a news story. Though money didn't technically change hands between the network and LeBron (proceeds went to charity), Ohlmeyer believes that allowing LeBron and his team to sell an hour's worth of advertising was essentially the same thing. By doing so, ESPN compromised the trust of its viewing audience.

"ESPN should never have traded inventory for access or allowed a subject to select his inquisitor," he writes, "and if that meant losing the exclusive, so be it."

Ohlmeyer didn't blame everyone at the network for the fiasco. He mentions the dichotomy between the newsgathering side of ESPN and the one more focused on entertainment, and scolds the latter for compromising the integrity of the former. Letting LeBron and his team take over the network for 60 minutes was "editorial acquiescence, not an editorial decision."

If anything, Ohlmeyer may have pulled his punches. There was plenty more to criticize about "The Decision," from Michael Wilbon's sycophantic interview with LeBron (which Ohlymeyer backhandedly complimented as "straightforward") to the use of children as props during the program. To Ohlmeyer, though, such matters must have seemed trivial compared to ESPN doing its best impression of The National Enquirer and paying for a scoop.

After the column appeared on ESPN.com, the network released a statement saying "it aggressively seeks and embraces feedback of all kinds."


link to the ombudsman's article



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Re: Dear LeBron & Bosh,
« Reply #70 on: July 26, 2010, 11:23:47 am »
Worst day in Cleveland sports history?  Lord knows there have been so many.

Browns move to Baltimore
Jordan hits the 20 footer
"The Drive"

I could go on...........


nah.... you dont have to.

even our AHL hockey team sucks now too, its embarrassing, oh well maybe its good karma and someday we will have teams better then the rest


but then again... probably not
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Re: Dear LeBron & Bosh,
« Reply #71 on: July 29, 2010, 01:45:31 pm »
Indians fans heckle, throw objects at fan in LeBron Heat jersey.

Good lord Cleveland, get over it. Anyone who went so far as to throw trash at someone because they didn't like his basketball jersey should probably be euthanized.
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Re: Dear LeBron & Bosh,
« Reply #72 on: July 29, 2010, 01:56:18 pm »
Indians fans heckle, throw objects at fan in LeBron Heat jersey.

Good lord Cleveland, get over it. Anyone who went so far as to throw trash at someone because they didn't like his basketball jersey should probably be euthanized.



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Re: Dear LeBron & Bosh,
« Reply #73 on: July 29, 2010, 05:09:24 pm »
Indians fans heckle, throw objects at fan in LeBron Heat jersey.

Good lord Cleveland, get over it. Anyone who went so far as to throw trash at someone because they didn't like his basketball jersey should probably be euthanized.

yeah i must say. i dont really give 2 shits about him, hes gone now, and hes never coming back. now on to more important things... such as life :-D
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